October 26, 2024 • 32 mins
How bad is being a New York Giants fan? What is it like to work with Carmelo Anthony? What are the craziest bets you've ever made? These are the kinds of questions Action Network hosts Chad Millman and Simon Hunter will ask today's very special guest.
Kid Mero is a best-selling writer, a producer, a comedian, and generally one of the most popular New York sports fans across the entire internet. Plus, he’s a lifetime gambler just like us! He's coming off the first season of his new show 7PM IN BROOKLYN with Carmelo Anthony, and he provides one of the funniest, most enthusiastic interviews in our podcast's long history. For even more great stuff from Kid Mero, check out new YouTube Channel @accordingtothekid
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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Welcome to The Favorites, the podcast presented by BET three
sixty five. We are part of the Volume Podcast Network.
I am Chad Milman, the Action Network. I am live,
I'm my Tommy John Home Studio, and I'm joined as
always by my co host, my companion, my compadre, my BFF,
professional better Simon Hunter. Hello, Simon, Hello, chat.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
What a great day, my man, dude.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
As we teased earlier this week, today we have a
very special guest. It is rare that we have an
in season guest on The Favorites. In fact, it is
unresidented since Simon and I started hosting the show together.
(00:55):
But it's also rare we get an opportunity to chat
with someone like this guest we have coming. He's the
best selling author, a producer, a comedian, generally one of
the most popular New York sports fans across the entire Internet,
(01:16):
even though he doesn't even live in New York anymore.
Plus he's a gambler just like us, coming off the
first season of his new show seven PM in Brooklyn
with Carmelo Anthony. Please welcome the kid Mayrow.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
He thanks for having me, guys, you know what I mean.
Shout out to you.
Speaker 4 (01:35):
I love this because, like I said, I am a gambler,
and I don't know if I should be saying this
on air.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
My publicist has left the Zoom, so I'm gonna say it.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
I used to gamble before the apps, So when the
apps came around, I was like, Wow, I do not
have to go to see a guy named.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Little Tony anymore, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
And when you grew up in the Bronx and like
you're hanging around bodegos, that's how it used to be, right,
And we've talked about this on the show, and since
gambling became legal, there's a lot of things that are
really interesting about it being legal. But obviously it's great
(02:15):
for us, and it's great for our business, and it's
great for transparency, and it's great for sort of responsible gaming.
But tell us about how you got into it growing
up where you did, and what that experience was like
for you.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
It was just like a thing you kind of just
get into.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
You know, friends you have friends that that gamble or like,
you know, it's like I don't want to like make
it sound like like a horrible thing, but it's like
fucking weed, bro, Like you.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
Know what I'm saying, Like you just hanging around a
shit like somebody s fucking weed. They're like, Yo, you
want to hit this weed? And I'm like, all right,
you hit it.
Speaker 4 (02:45):
You're like, Wow, this Bowl game is way more interesting now,
Like I'm way more interested in San Diego State, you
know what I mean That I am usually you feel me.
So it was just it was kind of that it
did what I like to do with everything, which it
gamifies stuff, right, It gives you, like, like I said,
some skin in the game. Like you know, if you're
watching the Tostitos Bowl and you didn't go to like
(03:06):
Oklahoma State, you don't give a shit.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
But if you've got some action, you know what I.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
Mean, Like now you're very invested in the outcome of
this game, to the point where you're taking your hat
on and off your head multiple times during the game,
you know what I mean, Like sweating it makes sports
sportsier if that even makes sense.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
What is your theory on? I know you love the Giants,
betting the Giants, betting against the Giants. A lot of
people have different feelings when it comes to their personal team.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
I do not.
Speaker 4 (03:36):
I'm not one of those guys, I am a businessman first.
I think with my head, the big one, you know
what I'm saying. So I'm not foolish enough to do
anything gambling wise regarding the Giants except bet against them
and bet on.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
Like Molik Neighbors touches, you know what I mean, as
like prop bet you know what I mean, Like that's
that's That's where I'm at, talk about gambling. I was.
I was like, bet the house on sa Quon.
Speaker 4 (03:59):
Having the game of his fucking life against the Giants
coming back and voila.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
When I was burning esp in the magazine way back
in the day. I know you love Eli, Eli Manning.
We put we did a Hall of Fame issue. We
put Eli Manning on the cover of the issue and said,
this is why Eli Manning should be a Hall of
Fame quarterback. Why is he a Hall of Fame quarterback
(04:26):
to you? And how do you argue that to anyone
who thinks otherwise?
Speaker 4 (04:30):
I mean, the number one, The numbers speak for themselves,
right number two.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
It's like David and Gallion's story. Bro.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
This is the only I mean, Nick Foles did it too.
This is the only guy who ate Toms cookies.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
Twice. As we all know this is a gamely podcast.
He was not. They were agrits going into either of
those matchups, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
So it was just like, come on the guy, and
again the the phrase fourth quarter ELI, you know what
I'm saying, or like second half ELI is a real thing.
Like this guy would just turn it on and make
some plays that you'd be like, bro, what the fuck. Also,
he's a Manning dog like put Arch Manning in the
Hall of Fame already, just like the entire Manning like lineage.
(05:17):
Just put them all in the Hall of Fame, have
a wing for them, call it the Manning wing, and
just put them all there, because they're like a football family, bro,
They're like the Griffies of football.
Speaker 5 (05:27):
Off the top though, I think he nailed it as
a Giants fan, where even if you take away the numbers,
think about what he meant to football, right, I mean,
that's some of the most historical plays for the rest
of my life. Who the hell remembers David Tyree? You
got to be like a true football fan, right, that's
your guy's third receiver. He's a household name forever, Like
(05:48):
those are the kind of moments we live for. So
it seems like you're a pretty rational Giants fan. And
you know, I saw an amazing quote you had before
the season. Your hope for the Giants season. The preseason
you said, basically, if an ash droid hit Pennsylvania, the
Giants would do well.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Is your direct quote.
Speaker 5 (06:03):
How are you feeling right now? And like, how you
viewing the season? Are you just counting the days till
you guys can draft a new quarterback? Are you already
over the whole Daniel Jones experience this year?
Speaker 3 (06:12):
Bro, i'n't even call him Daniel Jones. Bro, he's Woody
from Toy Story.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
Okay, he is Woody from Toy Story. He has the
same like kind of like rabbit eyed, just like scared.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
Look.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
I feel like putting him his name in the same
sentsenus as Eli is a bad look. But in the
early days of the Daniel Jones experience, I was like, oh,
you know what, it's just the old line.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
That's what happened to Eli.
Speaker 5 (06:36):
And at the tail end, because of that Campa game,
that first game he played, remember the first game he
played his best game of his career, of his career.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
Bro.
Speaker 6 (06:45):
Wow, Then and say you run where. I was just like, oh,
this guy's a mobile quarterback. WHOA Like, No, you're not mobile, bro.
You just you run fast in a straight line and
then you triple of issue leases, you know, before you
get zone.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
Also, fam like, my my scalp is getting hot just
thinking about this. I don't ever want to see a
front office guy draft a quarterback from any conference.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
That is not the SEC or the Big Ten.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
Bro. Stop stop, never draft a quarterback from a basketball
school ever again. Dog Gettleman, thank god you're out of here.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
Bro. I was about to ask you what is the
recipe for the crack that you smoke? Because I was.
Speaker 4 (07:26):
Watching that draft and I was just like, as soon
as they call that name, I was like, Saquon is gone.
Squon is gone, and or his career is like you're
throwing it. It's like Barrus Sanders, you know what I mean,
Like no shots, barons Anders, Hall of Famer, hall of
Fame career, never one, never one. This is the fate
that will wait Saquon if this is the guy at
the center for him, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
So I'm totally out on the experiment. I'm over it.
I'm done. I've been done for like a year and
change already.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
I was the one that was like holding out, still
being like, Yo, it's the old line. It's the old line.
It's the old line.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
Bro, that's stock the whole line. It's not the fucking line.
But that was like, Bro, I.
Speaker 7 (08:04):
Coached pee wee football, and I'm like, do not stare
down your receiver, Bro, don't stare at the guy that
you're going to throw the ball at, because everybody on
the defense is like, Oh.
Speaker 4 (08:13):
That's what he's The ball's going over here. He saw
the ball and and he did that. I forgot what
I trying to remember what.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
Game it was he did it.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
It was like and they highlighted it, and I was
just like, he does that all the time.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
That's not good quarterback play.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
I feel like I'm going on the right now, guys,
So give me something else to talk about, because otherwise
I'm gonna start sweating and become violently angry because it's
one thing.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
One thing. I love how you just threw in there.
I coached pee wee football because it reminds me like
one of my good friends in New York who was
my boss at one point. We would be closing the
magazine on a Sunday afternoon and have all these football
stories in here, and some of them were written by
(08:55):
actual NFL players. They'd be breaking down plays and whatever,
and he'd be like, I don't know if this makes sense,
because when I play in my touch football league on
the Upper West Side in the Park on Saturday afternoons,
we don't run it like this.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
So I like taking.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
Your suburban New Jersey offensive line coaching skills and translating
them to analyzing the ineptitude of the New York Giants
football offensive line.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
Yo.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
By the way, I haven't like to stand on because
the guys that are in that you know, in that
huddle are NFL guys, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
Like, they are actual guys.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
So I'm glad I'm getting information from the pros, you
know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
It's not having the plumber, you know what I mean,
like telling me.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
Hey, you know, if you crash the safety, if it
puts the safety every time, they're just gonna throw the
ball back there, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
I was like, I know that guy, you know what
I mean.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
I know that I've played Madden once or twice, you know,
so like this is all obvious type.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
Of anologies, but like there's little things, man that you.
Speaker 4 (10:00):
Know, you pick up and it's like when you see
it at a professional level, Like listen, I'm a Yankee
fan that play between Lighter and Rizzo at first base
where they like they both didn't know what the fuck
to do and like, you know, uh, the ball goes
between Rizzol's legs.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
I'm like, listen, I also coached nine you baseball. You're
getting bench for that. You're getting bench for that. I'm
looking at them immediately, Uh, who we got here?
Speaker 4 (10:28):
Rodriguez, go get out there, because it's like, bro, what
are we doing here?
Speaker 3 (10:33):
This is basic stuff? You know what I mean? So
I'll say that much.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
It's like when I wake up this morning with a
horse voice and my wife turns into the greatest Internet
doctor who has ever lived, because she is in her phone.
Here's why you have a horse voice. Here's what I
think you need to do. She's figured it out.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
You have walking pneumonia. You're going to die in a week.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
You put in your legs, know, can you make sure
the wheel is up to date?
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Someone that smokes weed?
Speaker 5 (11:04):
I can't tell any times I've self diagnosed myself dying.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Chad, We're like, oh Hi.
Speaker 5 (11:08):
I'm like, oh my god, did my heart just is
my heart skipping a beat right now? Or is my
leg numb? That's that's the worst part with the internet
looking up fingers.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
My face feels weird. It's like, yeah, going to petup.
But and Jelly is calm down, like it's relax now.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
Edible and like Paddick on the planet had to like
emergency land the plane. I'm like, that's insane, bro, It's
we like relaxed, just take would take a nap.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (11:39):
With the with us me and Chad, we're both the
generate better. So I got to hear some of the
good betting stories. My favorite Thumb's pet stupid things I've
done was when I first moved back to Jersey, you know,
before my boys were married, and I had a buddy
who had an older brother and a kid on a
baseball team.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
So this park was right by my my house.
Speaker 5 (11:55):
We just go get a cooler, sit out back, drink
and bet on sixth grade baseball to get it for
a whole summer.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
So I knew these teams.
Speaker 5 (12:02):
I was good at it, and I had a professional
better come visit me, and I was like, let's go,
let's go watch some little league and bet on it.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
Why not?
Speaker 5 (12:08):
We got nothing else going on. And I was thinking
I was pulling a fast on this guy. I was like, yeah,
I'll give you two and a half runs for a
thousand bucks, right, So this guy's a big run line
on me.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
I should.
Speaker 5 (12:18):
I was like, this team's gonna get rolled. They're gonna
win by ten. Little did I know? I got worked right?
They had this kid, it was a picture. Couldn't get
a hit off him. In six innings they won like
six nothing. I would love to hear you got any
like crazy degenerate stories like that where you're just making
crazy side bets or you just always betting on like
professional bro.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
This is and this wasn't even my bet.
Speaker 4 (12:38):
Just hearing this was insane to me because like you know,
like you said, like you better on little League baseball.
Like so I was sitting and this is like again
like pre app days, right when you had a like
call phone.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
Yeah, I'm sitting there with my boy and.
Speaker 4 (12:53):
He's just like he's he's got the hitch, bro, like
you know what I mean, Like he's just like looking
at him for action on something. So sitting there and
this is like early days in Netflix where it's like
DVD and like they're just introducing streaming. So we're sitting
there and I'll never forget this. We're watching a horrible
like Sylvester Stallone movie, like just randomly pick a random
movie on Netflix. And he's sitting there. He's just super quiet.
(13:14):
He's just drives his phone. He's just like, yeah, can
you get me the line on Penn State Women's volleyball.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
I was like Penn State Women's volleyball? Dog what? I
was like, It's like Wednesday night, Like what what? Then
there was another time this was crazy.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
This is like one of those like like his gambling bro,
when you win that dopamine hit is like absolutely control.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
It's like out of control.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
It's one of those when you win those bets, you
can't go to sleep that night.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
Right.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
So Steve Francis is on the Knicks, right, this is
like end of Steve Francis's career.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
And I with my friend Chris in his basement. He
has action on this game.
Speaker 4 (13:53):
I do that the Knicks need two points to cover
the spread. They're losing. They're gonna lose, like they're down
like twenty two or something.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
Spriends like twenty two and a half or something. Dumb.
Speaker 4 (14:06):
Steve Francis checks into the game with like ten seconds
left for for no reason at all other than like
he loves us, launches a half court three for no reason, bro,
Like they're still losing, splash, but they get like, Bro,
that was.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
The hugest like jumped up head hit the ceiling. Yeah,
like middle of the season, bro, no reason to be
excited about this at all, Steve Francis said, chucks up
for three to cover. That was the Knicks championship. You
know what I mean? For your boy trying out to
my boy, Jimmy, My boy, Jimmy.
Speaker 4 (14:37):
One time, I think this was a Dodgers Padres game, right,
he had like a six like parlay going, and like
everything hit except this Padres Dodgers game, which obviously is
on West Coast time. He stayed uplate to watch it,
and he had the Dodgers or something like that, and
they're like getting like I could be butchering the story
because this was like years ago. But they're down like
(14:57):
six runs at like the sixth inning or seventh they think,
or something like that. He's just like, Bro, my parley is cooked. Bro,
fucking I'm going to bad. I'll work early the next morning.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
Dogs come up.
Speaker 4 (15:07):
First guy up, blow home run, Next guy up, blow
home run, next guy up, blow home like homer after
homer after homer, after like four homers in a row.
Now my boy is calling him up, like, yo, bro,
this is about like this is about to happen.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
This is about to happen.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
And it doesn't happen, like they fall shrom My like
oh run, And it's like he's like, bro, why did
you even fucking like you woke me up? I started
watching the game only to like, you know, like edge,
you know what I'm saying like this.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
Much, And I was just like, damn, bro, I was like, listen,
that's why you don't.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
That's why I'm like superstitious about like no hitters and
shit like that. Like I'm like, yo, if I bet
the under or the whatever I bet on this game,
do not talk about it game.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
Okay, sounds like you're hanging out with a lot of
mush Uh. You could just quash all of your bets
you actually talking about. The Giants were able to announce
a draft pick for the giants. How did that come about?
What was it like tell people who you drafted or announced,
(16:11):
and the experience of being on the stage.
Speaker 4 (16:14):
So like, immediately coming off the end of my talk
show on Showtime, my agent shot the Roy dres and
he was like, Hey, you want to do the NFL Draft.
And I was like, hell, yeah, I want to do
the NFL Draft. Do they want me to do the
NFL Draft? He was like, yes, they do. I was like,
let's do it. So I get there and this is
and this is the funny part. I get there, it's
(16:36):
a million degrees.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
Right, it's Vegas. Obviously it's a gazillion degrees.
Speaker 4 (16:41):
I go out there and I'm backstage, right, So I'm
in the like the green room area.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
There's a bunch of like old retired guys there. Barry
I saw Barry, I saw Chris Carr, but like all
these guys, I'm like, wow, this is like historical and
it felt.
Speaker 4 (16:56):
Guy Dan Marenara is there. Dan Marinara Viking Legends is
announcing the pick before me. Right, So he goes up
there and I don't know who had the idea to
have an open bar in the green room of a
bunch of NFL dudes. But it was a bad idea
(17:17):
because dan Arnarra went up there and allegedly, as far
as I can tell, was shit faced. So he went
up there, he was just like, oh, yeahs there.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
When I got to Minnesota, I said, boy, is it
call here? I hated it.
Speaker 7 (17:39):
So anyway, like I was saying, uh, you know, I
got to the NFL back when the helmets were made.
Speaker 4 (17:46):
Out of leather, and I'm just like, bro, this guy's
just like rambling. He's you're supposed to be. It's like
thirty seconds, brother, you go up there. Hey, I'm damn
darn Arra. I did this that the third I won
a Super Bowl, YadA YadA, and then you announced to
pick who went. The producer, whoever's like producing this thing
is like this like like five ft two, like you know,
like little shy, little mousey white girl. I'm just like
(18:09):
she's looking at me like I'm ready to go, Like
I'm behind the curtain, ready to go. She's looking at me,
she's looking at him, she's looking at me, she' looking
at him. She's going to me, She's going to him.
I'm like, are you the producer that you running the
show here? She's like, yeah, I don't know what to do.
I was like, go out there. I grabbed like I
was like a payvod coaching. This is where it comes in.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
Andy. I was like, listen to me. You go out
there and you get them off that stage. This is
your show, you're running it. Go out there and tell me.
He's talking to goddamn much.
Speaker 4 (18:33):
So she goes out there and I'm like lip reading,
trying to let the tomboy. I'm lip reading, and she
she tells him, like.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
Get the fuck off stage, like now. And so then
he's like, I've been told to get downstairs. I'm talking.
I'm being long winded, and.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
I know I know what you're thinking.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
I look pretty good for my age, but my little
apartment in Ihaga, New York.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
They weren't on the top from my list for teams
I wanted to be drafted by. Lookout.
Speaker 4 (19:04):
In fact, there was only one team that I wanted
to be drafted by.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
Less Oh my goodness.
Speaker 4 (19:10):
But I'm not gonna mention Green Bay anyway.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
Is he gonna get to the early you go read it, Okay,
read the cards. I wanted to read the card. He
God does get.
Speaker 5 (19:20):
In the hook, not even any playoff music.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
Just read it, just read it.
Speaker 4 (19:26):
Then he gets off an I come on and I
announced stud wide receiver Wondale Robinson out of kids, the forty.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
Third pick in the twenty twenty two.
Speaker 4 (19:37):
NFL Draft, The New York Football Giants select one Dale Robinson, Kentucky.
You know what I mean, which again, like it goes
against my dn't draft football guys from a basketball school.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
But this is not a quarterback. This is a whiteout.
Speaker 4 (19:55):
So it's fine because he was in the gym with
the basketball guys doing basketball things.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
You know. Sec guy still also, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (20:06):
So it does it right. The cross section hits. It
checks my boxes. It doesn't check all of them, but
it checked one sec.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
Good. Great. Not a quarterback also checks the box.
Speaker 5 (20:18):
Now I'll just stay off the top. I'm so jealousing
your show man, like I grew up. I'm a six
years guy from Philly.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
I would give.
Speaker 5 (20:24):
I mean, I love you, chat, I get rid of
you like tomorrow if I can get a show with AI. Honestly,
I would love to shoot to show the eye. I
would love to know what your experience like. Man, you're
breaking down, you know, A show with Carmelo Anthony.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Is that surreal?
Speaker 3 (20:36):
Is how's that? Going?
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Another first season? Was amazing?
Speaker 3 (20:39):
Yeah? Man, it's it's it's great. Bro. It's like you said,
like you know, it's like I am.
Speaker 4 (20:45):
A diehard born and bred Knicks fan from the cradle, bro, Like.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
You know, my uncles will put.
Speaker 4 (20:54):
Me up in front of the TV like Yankees, Nicks giants.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
That is the trinity, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (21:03):
Like so I was like lockedown fan and Jets whoa bro.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
Who like you know what I mean? Like Euro said, Dad,
you know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (21:13):
And and it's funny because like my dad wasn't even
like a hardcore Yankees guy.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
He was just a super Tony Pena fan. I could
have been like a like I could have been.
Speaker 4 (21:22):
I could have been like a Pirates fan or some
you know what I mean, Like it could have been.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
It could have been weird for me. Tony ended up
being the coach for the Yanks, which worked out.
Speaker 4 (21:30):
But sitting down with Mellow, like having had the experience
of like me and myself as like you know, a
sports fan and a Benny man, you know what I mean,
watching the sixty two point game at the Garden, like
like Bro, you hit the over by yourself, Like this
is amazing, Like you know what I mean, Like you
(21:50):
covered by.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
Your damn So you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (21:53):
Like, but you know, just watching him like break like
just picking his brain, bro, because there's a lot of moments,
you know, like you said, like if you could sit
down with Ai, I'm sure there's like moments that you
like are iconic AI moments Like yo, bro, when.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
You stepped over Tayloo like that, Bro, what was going
through your head? You know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (22:12):
Like like there's stuff like that when I'm just like
you knew you had to know that you were going
after Lebron, like when you didn't go after Lebron?
Speaker 3 (22:23):
What you know what I mean? Tuk me through that,
you know what.
Speaker 4 (22:26):
I'm saying, because that's a question that I want to
know just as a fan, and I know that other
fans want to know, you know what I mean. So
like the opportunity to be the fan that is also
like driving this car, you know what I mean. Is
Like it's amazing, bro, Like to sit down with him
and be able to just like go through all this
stuff and get it straight from the source, like right,
Like it's not like a beat reporter that followed the Knicks.
(22:48):
It's the guy giving the story straight from the horse's mouth.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
So, and the access that you get is insane. Bro.
Like we went to Vegas, you know, for Tmusa stuff,
and I'm like.
Speaker 4 (22:59):
Bro, I'm We're over here at the UNLV practicing bro
Like that's Joan of b shooting freeze like with his
left hand. This is crazy, like and I'm just here
in the mix, you know, Like it's it's it's really
super dope. And Mellow is a very New York guy.
You know what I'm saying, Like he's Baltimore, Brooklyn, but
he is so Brooklyn. Bro it like it's like he
(23:20):
sweats Brooklyn, you know what I'm saying. Like it's and
it works. It's it's it's like it's it's it's the
It's peanut.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
Butter and jelly. It's two to New York guys. I'm like, yo, hey, wow,
loud guy.
Speaker 4 (23:31):
And he's just more like yo, hey, come on, Chap,
you know what I mean, Like more like cool, laid back,
and I'm just like yeah.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
You know. So it's just like the year and the
Yang of New York sports.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
It's interesting because mellow. I feel like his reputation mellowed
as he got older with the Team USA success, even
like post New York stuff, he became a guy who
people saw as being more personable. And I think in
New York, even though he's a legendary Nick people, there
(24:03):
was still like a lot of love hate there. Okay,
you know, like how was your perception of him changed
from when you were just a fan and he was
the only thing worth watching for the Knicks too? Now
later in his career and now doing the show with them.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
Well, like that's the thing. It's like my opinion, I
almost have more.
Speaker 4 (24:22):
I have. The respect level has always been there because
it's like, yo, you were, you were, You're coming to
New York, right. And I think that the the the
weirdness around him was because Knicks fans were very stupid, interrational, you.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
Know what I mean. Like we thought Frank Nila Chino
was going to be the future, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (24:39):
Like so when you let they let go Wilson Chandler, right,
Danilo Gallinari, you know, I forgot who else left in
that trade, But it was like, you know a bunch
of guys that were like, you know, favorites right like
this like young upstart next team, like and it's just like, bro,
let's be real here, Like you know what I'm saying.
(25:00):
They're not beating like the big teams. You know what
I mean, They're not beating like the juggernaut teams. They
might make a little run and excite us, you know
what I mean, Like, hey, Mets fans, you know what
I mean. But like they're not gonna go all the way,
you know what I mean? So like what are we
really doing here? We don't have a guy. We haven't
had a guy since Pat so when they got Mellow,
I was very like, yo.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
Yes, fuck, we finally have a guy, you know what
I mean. Like that's like, Yo, this is the guy.
Speaker 4 (25:26):
This is We're gonna sell a million of these jerseys again,
like you said, like there's a reason to watch these
games like that, Like two thousand and five, two thousand
and six four H five H six era, Bro, I
was watching those games for two reasons. To see if
they would cover and to see if Jamoe Crawford would
cross somebody over, you know what I'm saying, Like and
he did. He fuck Kirk Heinrich up, Like go google
(25:46):
that just go go go YouTube. Jamo Comfort Nick's Kirk Heinrich.
He spun him around crazy. It's one of the craziest
googles that seems to this day. He threw the bowl
over the glass himself, like I'm watching for this right.
So now we got mellow and it's like we finally
have a guy. So to answer your question, it's the
same level of like esteem and respect, but now it's
(26:08):
like it's kind of like shifted into like, Yo, I've
been doing entertainment for like damn there like two decades,
you know what I mean. So watching him grow into
that space has been dope to watch, you know what
I mean, Like as an interviewer, as a like media guy,
as a like, hey, here's a question that I that
I just thought of, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
It's not in the prompter like you know what I mean,
Like it's watching that.
Speaker 4 (26:32):
It's like I imagine it's like him watching his kid
playing basketball, you know what I'm saying. It's just like damn, okay, Like, wow,
you're really developing, like you know, like you're improving as
a as a media personality, you know, and then also
you have all these crazy stories Doug you know what
I mean that like have haven't seen the light of
day because, like you said, like when he was with
(26:52):
the Knicks, he wasn't really like a super like hey,
I'm gonna spill, like I'm an open book, you know,
like in postgame or whatever, because you know New York media,
you know, it could be like it could be very unforgiving,
you know.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
Yeah, it felt very combative. It felt like every week
he was the back page of the Post. Something he did,
something he said had pissed somebody off, you know, and
somebody was going to write a story about it. I
love that of the show seven PM in Brooklyn. I
love that title. How did you guys come up with that?
Where did that come from?
Speaker 3 (27:28):
Man?
Speaker 4 (27:28):
That was like that was like literally like just us,
Like people were sitting in his zoom like what about this?
Speaker 3 (27:34):
What about this? What about this? I like that? That
sounds dope, you know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (27:39):
It kind of like sets of like a like it
gives you like a like a visual right like seven
pm in Brooklyn, Like it's like, you know, the sun
is setting dusk.
Speaker 3 (27:48):
You know what I mean, Like people are hanging out,
there's still like stuff. It's New York city. So it's
still going on. It's still motion. People saw aside. This
conversation is happening.
Speaker 4 (27:57):
This is like the in front of the bodega in
the barbershop conversation about you know, whatever you know is
going on.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
It just felt right.
Speaker 5 (28:13):
So before we let you go, we gotta know how
would you think you and Na Melo would perform against
this offensive line?
Speaker 2 (28:20):
The giants got you guys getting sacks.
Speaker 4 (28:22):
Ah, Bro, Listen, I'm working with as a pee lead coach.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
We've been All we do is work on RiPP and swim.
Speaker 4 (28:32):
Okay, first step, you know, three to one technique, two technique,
three technique, Get on the right technique.
Speaker 8 (28:38):
You know, make sure you stid three point stance is good.
You know, it should be so that if you move
your hand, you fall down. That's how much you should
be your asses up. The little man wins, you know
what I mean. So I'm getting at least two and
a half.
Speaker 4 (28:53):
I'm putting the line at two and a half on
this line, bro, and I'm doing.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
The sexy TEXI dance after just to be like, you know, disrespectful.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
That is an aggressive line for you too, I would say,
And I feel like it's low for this Giants offensive line.
That's what I mean by aggressive. It's a little bit low.
You guys could run some wicked, wicked you know you guys.
Also the Giants offensive line, they'd be so wow. They'd
(29:23):
be like asking you about the AOC interview. They'd be
asking mellow about like that time he won the gold
medal with Lebron.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
Like the banana boat. Got to ask the banana Boat.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
Yea, yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
They'd be like, let's let's let's reenact the Banana Boat
before we actually run the play.
Speaker 7 (29:42):
I remember through the whole line, like Yo, Bubble was
actually the really cooler person.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
There was a very humble guy.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
That's how bad it's gotten for the New York Football Giants.
Speaker 4 (29:57):
But like.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
You got the next who almost stayed within thirty of
the Celtics last night, and you got the Yankees in
the World Series to break your heart against.
Speaker 3 (30:12):
This team. This is a team of destiny.
Speaker 4 (30:14):
This team is being again being led by another bi
racial angel. Not Derek Jeter, not my Lord and Savior
Jeter Christ but Aaron Judge. Okay, and I am a Dominican,
so Juan, you know what I'm saying. It's gonna take
us he's gonna take us over too. Let me tell
(30:36):
you something then, don't just smoky bed Joe hel tiny.
We're gonna make it too she out of Joe. That's
what I'm gonna tell you right now. We're gonna make
it Taimi ada okay, because once honto la, it's plata
the power all the way, Bapa, that's what it's gonna
take us away.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
Shout out everybody. I wanna give him shout.
Speaker 4 (30:53):
Out to you, to you Simon, I want to give
a shout out to Chat. I wanna give you a
shout out to the guys and make sure you're toting
eight to seven PM in Brooklyn on you and also
be toy Lie, you know, because I'm there as well.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
The kid Meto is here.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
Papa, I don't even want to say goodbye kid Meto
Devin PM in Brooklyn. Like you just said, thanks for
counting on the show. Brother, great to see you, Thank you.
Speaker 3 (31:19):
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (31:20):
Man. Hey, listen according to the kid on YouTube. Man,
check me out, you know what I mean. If you
have fun listening to this, keep listening to the guys
because they're fucking phenomenal. But check me out as well.
You know what I mean because I am also phenomenal,
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I am Chad Milman, the Action Network. I am live,
I'm my Tommy John Home Studio, and I'm joined as
always by my co host, my companion, my compadre, my BFF,
professional better Simon Hunter. Hello, Simon, Hello, chat.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
What a great day, my man, dude.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
As we teased earlier this week, today we have a
very special guest. It is rare that we have an
in season guest on The Favorites. In fact, it is
unresidented since Simon and I started hosting the show together.
(00:55):
But it's also rare we get an opportunity to chat
with someone like this guest we have coming. He's the
best selling author, a producer, a comedian, generally one of
the most popular New York sports fans across the entire Internet,
(01:16):
even though he doesn't even live in New York anymore.
Plus he's a gambler just like us, coming off the
first season of his new show seven PM in Brooklyn
with Carmelo Anthony. Please welcome the kid Mayrow.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
He thanks for having me, guys, you know what I mean.
Shout out to you.
Speaker 4 (01:35):
I love this because, like I said, I am a gambler,
and I don't know if I should be saying this
on air.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
My publicist has left the Zoom, so I'm gonna say it.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
I used to gamble before the apps, So when the
apps came around, I was like, Wow, I do not
have to go to see a guy named.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Little Tony anymore, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
And when you grew up in the Bronx and like
you're hanging around bodegos, that's how it used to be, right,
And we've talked about this on the show, and since
gambling became legal, there's a lot of things that are
really interesting about it being legal. But obviously it's great
(02:15):
for us, and it's great for our business, and it's
great for transparency, and it's great for sort of responsible gaming.
But tell us about how you got into it growing
up where you did, and what that experience was like
for you.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
It was just like a thing you kind of just
get into.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
You know, friends you have friends that that gamble or like,
you know, it's like I don't want to like make
it sound like like a horrible thing, but it's like
fucking weed, bro, Like you.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
Know what I'm saying, Like you just hanging around a
shit like somebody s fucking weed. They're like, Yo, you
want to hit this weed? And I'm like, all right,
you hit it.
Speaker 4 (02:45):
You're like, Wow, this Bowl game is way more interesting now,
Like I'm way more interested in San Diego State, you
know what I mean That I am usually you feel me.
So it was just it was kind of that it
did what I like to do with everything, which it
gamifies stuff, right, It gives you, like, like I said,
some skin in the game. Like you know, if you're
watching the Tostitos Bowl and you didn't go to like
(03:06):
Oklahoma State, you don't give a shit.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
But if you've got some action, you know what I.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
Mean, Like now you're very invested in the outcome of
this game, to the point where you're taking your hat
on and off your head multiple times during the game,
you know what I mean, Like sweating it makes sports
sportsier if that even makes sense.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
What is your theory on? I know you love the Giants,
betting the Giants, betting against the Giants. A lot of
people have different feelings when it comes to their personal team.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
I do not.
Speaker 4 (03:36):
I'm not one of those guys, I am a businessman first.
I think with my head, the big one, you know
what I'm saying. So I'm not foolish enough to do
anything gambling wise regarding the Giants except bet against them
and bet on.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
Like Molik Neighbors touches, you know what I mean, as
like prop bet you know what I mean, Like that's
that's That's where I'm at, talk about gambling. I was.
I was like, bet the house on sa Quon.
Speaker 4 (03:59):
Having the game of his fucking life against the Giants
coming back and voila.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
When I was burning esp in the magazine way back
in the day. I know you love Eli, Eli Manning.
We put we did a Hall of Fame issue. We
put Eli Manning on the cover of the issue and said,
this is why Eli Manning should be a Hall of
Fame quarterback. Why is he a Hall of Fame quarterback
(04:26):
to you? And how do you argue that to anyone
who thinks otherwise?
Speaker 4 (04:30):
I mean, the number one, The numbers speak for themselves,
right number two.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
It's like David and Gallion's story. Bro.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
This is the only I mean, Nick Foles did it too.
This is the only guy who ate Toms cookies.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
Twice. As we all know this is a gamely podcast.
He was not. They were agrits going into either of
those matchups, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
So it was just like, come on the guy, and
again the the phrase fourth quarter ELI, you know what
I'm saying, or like second half ELI is a real thing.
Like this guy would just turn it on and make
some plays that you'd be like, bro, what the fuck. Also,
he's a Manning dog like put Arch Manning in the
Hall of Fame already, just like the entire Manning like lineage.
(05:17):
Just put them all in the Hall of Fame, have
a wing for them, call it the Manning wing, and
just put them all there, because they're like a football family, bro,
They're like the Griffies of football.
Speaker 5 (05:27):
Off the top though, I think he nailed it as
a Giants fan, where even if you take away the numbers,
think about what he meant to football, right, I mean,
that's some of the most historical plays for the rest
of my life. Who the hell remembers David Tyree? You
got to be like a true football fan, right, that's
your guy's third receiver. He's a household name forever, Like
(05:48):
those are the kind of moments we live for. So
it seems like you're a pretty rational Giants fan. And
you know, I saw an amazing quote you had before
the season. Your hope for the Giants season. The preseason
you said, basically, if an ash droid hit Pennsylvania, the
Giants would do well.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Is your direct quote.
Speaker 5 (06:03):
How are you feeling right now? And like, how you
viewing the season? Are you just counting the days till
you guys can draft a new quarterback? Are you already
over the whole Daniel Jones experience this year?
Speaker 3 (06:12):
Bro, i'n't even call him Daniel Jones. Bro, he's Woody
from Toy Story.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
Okay, he is Woody from Toy Story. He has the
same like kind of like rabbit eyed, just like scared.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
Look.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
I feel like putting him his name in the same
sentsenus as Eli is a bad look. But in the
early days of the Daniel Jones experience, I was like, oh,
you know what, it's just the old line.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
That's what happened to Eli.
Speaker 5 (06:36):
And at the tail end, because of that Campa game,
that first game he played, remember the first game he
played his best game of his career, of his career.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
Bro.
Speaker 6 (06:45):
Wow, Then and say you run where. I was just like, oh,
this guy's a mobile quarterback. WHOA Like, No, you're not mobile, bro.
You just you run fast in a straight line and
then you triple of issue leases, you know, before you
get zone.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
Also, fam like, my my scalp is getting hot just
thinking about this. I don't ever want to see a
front office guy draft a quarterback from any conference.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
That is not the SEC or the Big Ten.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
Bro. Stop stop, never draft a quarterback from a basketball
school ever again. Dog Gettleman, thank god you're out of here.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
Bro. I was about to ask you what is the
recipe for the crack that you smoke? Because I was.
Speaker 4 (07:26):
Watching that draft and I was just like, as soon
as they call that name, I was like, Saquon is gone.
Squon is gone, and or his career is like you're
throwing it. It's like Barrus Sanders, you know what I mean,
Like no shots, barons Anders, Hall of Famer, hall of
Fame career, never one, never one. This is the fate
that will wait Saquon if this is the guy at
the center for him, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
So I'm totally out on the experiment. I'm over it.
I'm done. I've been done for like a year and
change already.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
I was the one that was like holding out, still
being like, Yo, it's the old line. It's the old line.
It's the old line.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
Bro, that's stock the whole line. It's not the fucking line.
But that was like, Bro, I.
Speaker 7 (08:04):
Coached pee wee football, and I'm like, do not stare
down your receiver, Bro, don't stare at the guy that
you're going to throw the ball at, because everybody on
the defense is like, Oh.
Speaker 4 (08:13):
That's what he's The ball's going over here. He saw
the ball and and he did that. I forgot what
I trying to remember what.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
Game it was he did it.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
It was like and they highlighted it, and I was
just like, he does that all the time.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
That's not good quarterback play.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
I feel like I'm going on the right now, guys,
So give me something else to talk about, because otherwise
I'm gonna start sweating and become violently angry because it's
one thing.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
One thing. I love how you just threw in there.
I coached pee wee football because it reminds me like
one of my good friends in New York who was
my boss at one point. We would be closing the
magazine on a Sunday afternoon and have all these football
stories in here, and some of them were written by
(08:55):
actual NFL players. They'd be breaking down plays and whatever,
and he'd be like, I don't know if this makes sense,
because when I play in my touch football league on
the Upper West Side in the Park on Saturday afternoons,
we don't run it like this.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
So I like taking.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
Your suburban New Jersey offensive line coaching skills and translating
them to analyzing the ineptitude of the New York Giants
football offensive line.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
Yo.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
By the way, I haven't like to stand on because
the guys that are in that you know, in that
huddle are NFL guys, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
Like, they are actual guys.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
So I'm glad I'm getting information from the pros, you
know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
It's not having the plumber, you know what I mean,
like telling me.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
Hey, you know, if you crash the safety, if it
puts the safety every time, they're just gonna throw the
ball back there, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
I was like, I know that guy, you know what
I mean.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
I know that I've played Madden once or twice, you know,
so like this is all obvious type.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
Of anologies, but like there's little things, man that you.
Speaker 4 (10:00):
Know, you pick up and it's like when you see
it at a professional level, Like listen, I'm a Yankee
fan that play between Lighter and Rizzo at first base
where they like they both didn't know what the fuck
to do and like, you know, uh, the ball goes
between Rizzol's legs.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
I'm like, listen, I also coached nine you baseball. You're
getting bench for that. You're getting bench for that. I'm
looking at them immediately, Uh, who we got here?
Speaker 4 (10:28):
Rodriguez, go get out there, because it's like, bro, what
are we doing here?
Speaker 3 (10:33):
This is basic stuff? You know what I mean? So
I'll say that much.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
It's like when I wake up this morning with a
horse voice and my wife turns into the greatest Internet
doctor who has ever lived, because she is in her phone.
Here's why you have a horse voice. Here's what I
think you need to do. She's figured it out.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
You have walking pneumonia. You're going to die in a week.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
You put in your legs, know, can you make sure
the wheel is up to date?
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Someone that smokes weed?
Speaker 5 (11:04):
I can't tell any times I've self diagnosed myself dying.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Chad, We're like, oh Hi.
Speaker 5 (11:08):
I'm like, oh my god, did my heart just is
my heart skipping a beat right now? Or is my
leg numb? That's that's the worst part with the internet
looking up fingers.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
My face feels weird. It's like, yeah, going to petup.
But and Jelly is calm down, like it's relax now.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
Edible and like Paddick on the planet had to like
emergency land the plane. I'm like, that's insane, bro, It's
we like relaxed, just take would take a nap.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (11:39):
With the with us me and Chad, we're both the
generate better. So I got to hear some of the
good betting stories. My favorite Thumb's pet stupid things I've
done was when I first moved back to Jersey, you know,
before my boys were married, and I had a buddy
who had an older brother and a kid on a
baseball team.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
So this park was right by my my house.
Speaker 5 (11:55):
We just go get a cooler, sit out back, drink
and bet on sixth grade baseball to get it for
a whole summer.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
So I knew these teams.
Speaker 5 (12:02):
I was good at it, and I had a professional
better come visit me, and I was like, let's go,
let's go watch some little league and bet on it.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
Why not?
Speaker 5 (12:08):
We got nothing else going on. And I was thinking
I was pulling a fast on this guy. I was like, yeah,
I'll give you two and a half runs for a
thousand bucks, right, So this guy's a big run line
on me.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
I should.
Speaker 5 (12:18):
I was like, this team's gonna get rolled. They're gonna
win by ten. Little did I know? I got worked right?
They had this kid, it was a picture. Couldn't get
a hit off him. In six innings they won like
six nothing. I would love to hear you got any
like crazy degenerate stories like that where you're just making
crazy side bets or you just always betting on like
professional bro.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
This is and this wasn't even my bet.
Speaker 4 (12:38):
Just hearing this was insane to me because like you know,
like you said, like you better on little League baseball.
Like so I was sitting and this is like again
like pre app days, right when you had a like
call phone.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
Yeah, I'm sitting there with my boy and.
Speaker 4 (12:53):
He's just like he's he's got the hitch, bro, like
you know what I mean, Like he's just like looking
at him for action on something. So sitting there and
this is like early days in Netflix where it's like
DVD and like they're just introducing streaming. So we're sitting
there and I'll never forget this. We're watching a horrible
like Sylvester Stallone movie, like just randomly pick a random
movie on Netflix. And he's sitting there. He's just super quiet.
(13:14):
He's just drives his phone. He's just like, yeah, can
you get me the line on Penn State Women's volleyball.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
I was like Penn State Women's volleyball? Dog what? I
was like, It's like Wednesday night, Like what what? Then
there was another time this was crazy.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
This is like one of those like like his gambling bro,
when you win that dopamine hit is like absolutely control.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
It's like out of control.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
It's one of those when you win those bets, you
can't go to sleep that night.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
Right.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
So Steve Francis is on the Knicks, right, this is
like end of Steve Francis's career.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
And I with my friend Chris in his basement. He
has action on this game.
Speaker 4 (13:53):
I do that the Knicks need two points to cover
the spread. They're losing. They're gonna lose, like they're down
like twenty two or something.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
Spriends like twenty two and a half or something. Dumb.
Speaker 4 (14:06):
Steve Francis checks into the game with like ten seconds
left for for no reason at all other than like
he loves us, launches a half court three for no reason, bro,
Like they're still losing, splash, but they get like, Bro,
that was.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
The hugest like jumped up head hit the ceiling. Yeah,
like middle of the season, bro, no reason to be
excited about this at all, Steve Francis said, chucks up
for three to cover. That was the Knicks championship. You
know what I mean? For your boy trying out to
my boy, Jimmy, My boy, Jimmy.
Speaker 4 (14:37):
One time, I think this was a Dodgers Padres game, right,
he had like a six like parlay going, and like
everything hit except this Padres Dodgers game, which obviously is
on West Coast time. He stayed uplate to watch it,
and he had the Dodgers or something like that, and
they're like getting like I could be butchering the story
because this was like years ago. But they're down like
(14:57):
six runs at like the sixth inning or seventh they think,
or something like that. He's just like, Bro, my parley is cooked. Bro,
fucking I'm going to bad. I'll work early the next morning.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
Dogs come up.
Speaker 4 (15:07):
First guy up, blow home run, Next guy up, blow
home run, next guy up, blow home like homer after
homer after homer, after like four homers in a row.
Now my boy is calling him up, like, yo, bro,
this is about like this is about to happen.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
This is about to happen.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
And it doesn't happen, like they fall shrom My like
oh run, And it's like he's like, bro, why did
you even fucking like you woke me up? I started
watching the game only to like, you know, like edge,
you know what I'm saying like this.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
Much, And I was just like, damn, bro, I was like, listen,
that's why you don't.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
That's why I'm like superstitious about like no hitters and
shit like that. Like I'm like, yo, if I bet
the under or the whatever I bet on this game,
do not talk about it game.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
Okay, sounds like you're hanging out with a lot of
mush Uh. You could just quash all of your bets
you actually talking about. The Giants were able to announce
a draft pick for the giants. How did that come about?
What was it like tell people who you drafted or announced,
(16:11):
and the experience of being on the stage.
Speaker 4 (16:14):
So like, immediately coming off the end of my talk
show on Showtime, my agent shot the Roy dres and
he was like, Hey, you want to do the NFL Draft.
And I was like, hell, yeah, I want to do
the NFL Draft. Do they want me to do the
NFL Draft? He was like, yes, they do. I was like,
let's do it. So I get there and this is
and this is the funny part. I get there, it's
(16:36):
a million degrees.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
Right, it's Vegas. Obviously it's a gazillion degrees.
Speaker 4 (16:41):
I go out there and I'm backstage, right, So I'm
in the like the green room area.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
There's a bunch of like old retired guys there. Barry
I saw Barry, I saw Chris Carr, but like all
these guys, I'm like, wow, this is like historical and
it felt.
Speaker 4 (16:56):
Guy Dan Marenara is there. Dan Marinara Viking Legends is
announcing the pick before me. Right, So he goes up
there and I don't know who had the idea to
have an open bar in the green room of a
bunch of NFL dudes. But it was a bad idea
(17:17):
because dan Arnarra went up there and allegedly, as far
as I can tell, was shit faced. So he went
up there, he was just like, oh, yeahs there.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
When I got to Minnesota, I said, boy, is it
call here? I hated it.
Speaker 7 (17:39):
So anyway, like I was saying, uh, you know, I
got to the NFL back when the helmets were made.
Speaker 4 (17:46):
Out of leather, and I'm just like, bro, this guy's
just like rambling. He's you're supposed to be. It's like
thirty seconds, brother, you go up there. Hey, I'm damn
darn Arra. I did this that the third I won
a Super Bowl, YadA YadA, and then you announced to
pick who went. The producer, whoever's like producing this thing
is like this like like five ft two, like you know,
like little shy, little mousey white girl. I'm just like
(18:09):
she's looking at me like I'm ready to go, Like
I'm behind the curtain, ready to go. She's looking at me,
she's looking at him, she's looking at me, she' looking
at him. She's going to me, She's going to him.
I'm like, are you the producer that you running the
show here? She's like, yeah, I don't know what to do.
I was like, go out there. I grabbed like I
was like a payvod coaching. This is where it comes in.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
Andy. I was like, listen to me. You go out
there and you get them off that stage. This is
your show, you're running it. Go out there and tell me.
He's talking to goddamn much.
Speaker 4 (18:33):
So she goes out there and I'm like lip reading,
trying to let the tomboy. I'm lip reading, and she
she tells him, like.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
Get the fuck off stage, like now. And so then
he's like, I've been told to get downstairs. I'm talking.
I'm being long winded, and.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
I know I know what you're thinking.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
I look pretty good for my age, but my little
apartment in Ihaga, New York.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
They weren't on the top from my list for teams
I wanted to be drafted by. Lookout.
Speaker 4 (19:04):
In fact, there was only one team that I wanted
to be drafted by.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
Less Oh my goodness.
Speaker 4 (19:10):
But I'm not gonna mention Green Bay anyway.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
Is he gonna get to the early you go read it, Okay,
read the cards. I wanted to read the card. He
God does get.
Speaker 5 (19:20):
In the hook, not even any playoff music.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
Just read it, just read it.
Speaker 4 (19:26):
Then he gets off an I come on and I
announced stud wide receiver Wondale Robinson out of kids, the forty.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
Third pick in the twenty twenty two.
Speaker 4 (19:37):
NFL Draft, The New York Football Giants select one Dale Robinson, Kentucky.
You know what I mean, which again, like it goes
against my dn't draft football guys from a basketball school.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
But this is not a quarterback. This is a whiteout.
Speaker 4 (19:55):
So it's fine because he was in the gym with
the basketball guys doing basketball things.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
You know. Sec guy still also, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (20:06):
So it does it right. The cross section hits. It
checks my boxes. It doesn't check all of them, but
it checked one sec.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
Good. Great. Not a quarterback also checks the box.
Speaker 5 (20:18):
Now I'll just stay off the top. I'm so jealousing
your show man, like I grew up. I'm a six
years guy from Philly.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
I would give.
Speaker 5 (20:24):
I mean, I love you, chat, I get rid of
you like tomorrow if I can get a show with AI. Honestly,
I would love to shoot to show the eye. I
would love to know what your experience like. Man, you're
breaking down, you know, A show with Carmelo Anthony.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Is that surreal?
Speaker 3 (20:36):
Is how's that? Going?
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Another first season? Was amazing?
Speaker 3 (20:39):
Yeah? Man, it's it's it's great. Bro. It's like you said,
like you know, it's like I am.
Speaker 4 (20:45):
A diehard born and bred Knicks fan from the cradle, bro, Like.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
You know, my uncles will put.
Speaker 4 (20:54):
Me up in front of the TV like Yankees, Nicks giants.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
That is the trinity, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (21:03):
Like so I was like lockedown fan and Jets whoa bro.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
Who like you know what I mean? Like Euro said, Dad,
you know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (21:13):
And and it's funny because like my dad wasn't even
like a hardcore Yankees guy.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
He was just a super Tony Pena fan. I could
have been like a like I could have been.
Speaker 4 (21:22):
I could have been like a Pirates fan or some
you know what I mean, Like it could have been.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
It could have been weird for me. Tony ended up
being the coach for the Yanks, which worked out.
Speaker 4 (21:30):
But sitting down with Mellow, like having had the experience
of like me and myself as like you know, a
sports fan and a Benny man, you know what I mean,
watching the sixty two point game at the Garden, like
like Bro, you hit the over by yourself, Like this
is amazing, Like you know what I mean, Like you
(21:50):
covered by.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
Your damn So you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (21:53):
Like, but you know, just watching him like break like
just picking his brain, bro, because there's a lot of moments,
you know, like you said, like if you could sit
down with Ai, I'm sure there's like moments that you
like are iconic AI moments Like yo, bro, when.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
You stepped over Tayloo like that, Bro, what was going
through your head? You know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (22:12):
Like like there's stuff like that when I'm just like
you knew you had to know that you were going
after Lebron, like when you didn't go after Lebron?
Speaker 3 (22:23):
What you know what I mean? Tuk me through that,
you know what.
Speaker 4 (22:26):
I'm saying, because that's a question that I want to
know just as a fan, and I know that other
fans want to know, you know what I mean. So
like the opportunity to be the fan that is also
like driving this car, you know what I mean. Is
Like it's amazing, bro, Like to sit down with him
and be able to just like go through all this
stuff and get it straight from the source, like right,
Like it's not like a beat reporter that followed the Knicks.
(22:48):
It's the guy giving the story straight from the horse's mouth.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
So, and the access that you get is insane. Bro.
Like we went to Vegas, you know, for Tmusa stuff,
and I'm like.
Speaker 4 (22:59):
Bro, I'm We're over here at the UNLV practicing bro
Like that's Joan of b shooting freeze like with his
left hand. This is crazy, like and I'm just here
in the mix, you know, Like it's it's it's really
super dope. And Mellow is a very New York guy.
You know what I'm saying, Like he's Baltimore, Brooklyn, but
he is so Brooklyn. Bro it like it's like he
(23:20):
sweats Brooklyn, you know what I'm saying. Like it's and
it works. It's it's it's like it's it's it's the
It's peanut.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
Butter and jelly. It's two to New York guys. I'm like, yo, hey, wow,
loud guy.
Speaker 4 (23:31):
And he's just more like yo, hey, come on, Chap,
you know what I mean, Like more like cool, laid back,
and I'm just like yeah.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
You know. So it's just like the year and the
Yang of New York sports.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
It's interesting because mellow. I feel like his reputation mellowed
as he got older with the Team USA success, even
like post New York stuff, he became a guy who
people saw as being more personable. And I think in
New York, even though he's a legendary Nick people, there
(24:03):
was still like a lot of love hate there. Okay,
you know, like how was your perception of him changed
from when you were just a fan and he was
the only thing worth watching for the Knicks too? Now
later in his career and now doing the show with them.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
Well, like that's the thing. It's like my opinion, I
almost have more.
Speaker 4 (24:22):
I have. The respect level has always been there because
it's like, yo, you were, you were, You're coming to
New York, right. And I think that the the the
weirdness around him was because Knicks fans were very stupid, interrational, you.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
Know what I mean. Like we thought Frank Nila Chino
was going to be the future, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (24:39):
Like so when you let they let go Wilson Chandler, right,
Danilo Gallinari, you know, I forgot who else left in
that trade, But it was like, you know a bunch
of guys that were like, you know, favorites right like
this like young upstart next team, like and it's just like, bro,
let's be real here, Like you know what I'm saying.
(25:00):
They're not beating like the big teams. You know what
I mean, They're not beating like the juggernaut teams. They
might make a little run and excite us, you know
what I mean, Like, hey, Mets fans, you know what
I mean. But like they're not gonna go all the way,
you know what I mean? So like what are we
really doing here? We don't have a guy. We haven't
had a guy since Pat so when they got Mellow,
I was very like, yo.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
Yes, fuck, we finally have a guy, you know what
I mean. Like that's like, Yo, this is the guy.
Speaker 4 (25:26):
This is We're gonna sell a million of these jerseys again,
like you said, like there's a reason to watch these
games like that, Like two thousand and five, two thousand
and six four H five H six era, Bro, I
was watching those games for two reasons. To see if
they would cover and to see if Jamoe Crawford would
cross somebody over, you know what I'm saying, Like and
he did. He fuck Kirk Heinrich up, Like go google
(25:46):
that just go go go YouTube. Jamo Comfort Nick's Kirk Heinrich.
He spun him around crazy. It's one of the craziest
googles that seems to this day. He threw the bowl
over the glass himself, like I'm watching for this right.
So now we got mellow and it's like we finally
have a guy. So to answer your question, it's the
same level of like esteem and respect, but now it's
(26:08):
like it's kind of like shifted into like, Yo, I've
been doing entertainment for like damn there like two decades,
you know what I mean. So watching him grow into
that space has been dope to watch, you know what
I mean, Like as an interviewer, as a like media guy,
as a like, hey, here's a question that I that
I just thought of, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
It's not in the prompter like you know what I mean,
Like it's watching that.
Speaker 4 (26:32):
It's like I imagine it's like him watching his kid
playing basketball, you know what I'm saying. It's just like damn, okay, Like, wow,
you're really developing, like you know, like you're improving as
a as a media personality, you know, and then also
you have all these crazy stories Doug you know what
I mean that like have haven't seen the light of
day because, like you said, like when he was with
(26:52):
the Knicks, he wasn't really like a super like hey,
I'm gonna spill, like I'm an open book, you know,
like in postgame or whatever, because you know New York media,
you know, it could be like it could be very unforgiving,
you know.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
Yeah, it felt very combative. It felt like every week
he was the back page of the Post. Something he did,
something he said had pissed somebody off, you know, and
somebody was going to write a story about it. I
love that of the show seven PM in Brooklyn. I
love that title. How did you guys come up with that?
Where did that come from?
Speaker 3 (27:28):
Man?
Speaker 4 (27:28):
That was like that was like literally like just us,
Like people were sitting in his zoom like what about this?
Speaker 3 (27:34):
What about this? What about this? I like that? That
sounds dope, you know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (27:39):
It kind of like sets of like a like it
gives you like a like a visual right like seven
pm in Brooklyn, Like it's like, you know, the sun
is setting dusk.
Speaker 3 (27:48):
You know what I mean, Like people are hanging out,
there's still like stuff. It's New York city. So it's
still going on. It's still motion. People saw aside. This
conversation is happening.
Speaker 4 (27:57):
This is like the in front of the bodega in
the barbershop conversation about you know, whatever you know is
going on.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
It just felt right.
Speaker 5 (28:13):
So before we let you go, we gotta know how
would you think you and Na Melo would perform against
this offensive line?
Speaker 2 (28:20):
The giants got you guys getting sacks.
Speaker 4 (28:22):
Ah, Bro, Listen, I'm working with as a pee lead coach.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
We've been All we do is work on RiPP and swim.
Speaker 4 (28:32):
Okay, first step, you know, three to one technique, two technique,
three technique, Get on the right technique.
Speaker 8 (28:38):
You know, make sure you stid three point stance is good.
You know, it should be so that if you move
your hand, you fall down. That's how much you should
be your asses up. The little man wins, you know
what I mean. So I'm getting at least two and
a half.
Speaker 4 (28:53):
I'm putting the line at two and a half on
this line, bro, and I'm doing.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
The sexy TEXI dance after just to be like, you know, disrespectful.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
That is an aggressive line for you too, I would say,
And I feel like it's low for this Giants offensive line.
That's what I mean by aggressive. It's a little bit low.
You guys could run some wicked, wicked you know you guys.
Also the Giants offensive line, they'd be so wow. They'd
(29:23):
be like asking you about the AOC interview. They'd be
asking mellow about like that time he won the gold
medal with Lebron.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
Like the banana boat. Got to ask the banana Boat.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
Yea, yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
They'd be like, let's let's let's reenact the Banana Boat
before we actually run the play.
Speaker 7 (29:42):
I remember through the whole line, like Yo, Bubble was
actually the really cooler person.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
There was a very humble guy.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
That's how bad it's gotten for the New York Football Giants.
Speaker 4 (29:57):
But like.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
You got the next who almost stayed within thirty of
the Celtics last night, and you got the Yankees in
the World Series to break your heart against.
Speaker 3 (30:12):
This team. This is a team of destiny.
Speaker 4 (30:14):
This team is being again being led by another bi
racial angel. Not Derek Jeter, not my Lord and Savior
Jeter Christ but Aaron Judge. Okay, and I am a Dominican,
so Juan, you know what I'm saying. It's gonna take
us he's gonna take us over too. Let me tell
(30:36):
you something then, don't just smoky bed Joe hel tiny.
We're gonna make it too she out of Joe. That's
what I'm gonna tell you right now. We're gonna make
it Taimi ada okay, because once honto la, it's plata
the power all the way, Bapa, that's what it's gonna
take us away.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
Shout out everybody. I wanna give him shout.
Speaker 4 (30:53):
Out to you, to you Simon, I want to give
a shout out to Chat. I wanna give you a
shout out to the guys and make sure you're toting
eight to seven PM in Brooklyn on you and also
be toy Lie, you know, because I'm there as well.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
The kid Meto is here.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
Papa, I don't even want to say goodbye kid Meto
Devin PM in Brooklyn. Like you just said, thanks for
counting on the show. Brother, great to see you, Thank you.
Speaker 3 (31:19):
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (31:20):
Man. Hey, listen according to the kid on YouTube. Man,
check me out, you know what I mean. If you
have fun listening to this, keep listening to the guys
because they're fucking phenomenal. But check me out as well.
You know what I mean because I am also phenomenal,
and make it a whole schmorgasboard.
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