The Favorites - Top 10 NFL Quarterbacks

A hotly contested episode every summer, today's show will upset plenty of listeners. Action Network hosts Chad Millman and Simon Hunter have compiled their Top 10 lists of the best quarterbacks in the NFL and are ready to defend them to the death. They are assisted by very special guest, fantasy expert Rich Hribar of Sharp Football Analysis. Rich provides a third-party voice of reason to this episode every year, as Simon and Chad debate the merits of the NFL's preeminent household names. #Volume

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:08):
Welcome to The Favorites, the podcast part of the Volume
podcast Network. I am Chad Millman of the Action Network.
We're finally getting close to kick off for the twenty
twenty five NFL season. We're going to begin our series
of preview shows. We're going to lead into our division

(00:29):
by division betting breakdowns that begin at the end of
this month. Before we get to that, Simon and I
always do a couple of table settered episodes to frame
what we think when it comes to a variety of
betting and fantasy topics. Today, we're going to do an
annual summer episode, which always invites snickering and debate. Mainly

(00:53):
the snickering is from Matt Mitchell, who just said that
every year for this episode, I do something that I
think he said that should put me in jail. I
know this year will be no different. Before introduced the topic,
let me bring him my co host, my companion Mike
and Padre might be f professional better. Sigmond head.

Speaker 2 (01:15):
Oh, so I am it Chad back from Vegas. How
you doing? Brother? Dude?

Speaker 1 (01:20):
Guy in very late last night, not planning on getting
in late last night, and then I sat in by
the way Truman will laugh at the Philadelphia airport for
more than three hours waiting for my connection, and I
flew from Vegas to Philly, and in my row I
ended up sitting next to a very elderly woman who

(01:44):
only had one leg, and I was, you know, it's
like she couldn't leave her seat, so I would climb
over her to get in and out. All good, lovely woman,
great conversation, but she played her Instagram reels on full

(02:07):
blast for the first forty five minutes from the time
we boarded until like, you know, we were connected to
Wi Fi and she was playing it into the flight,
and like that's just a trigger for me, you know,
like people playing their phones at full blast. And I

(02:31):
had to hold my tongue because I didn't want to
be the dude asking a very nice older woman to
please put on some headphones and turned down her phone.

Speaker 2 (02:42):
See I'm such a psycho. I would have turned to
it and be like, are you excited about meeting the
Grim Reaper? Because you're about to if you keep listening
to this music at full blast.

Speaker 1 (02:50):
I held my tongue.

Speaker 2 (02:51):
I was gonna I was gonna ask you if you
did any of the world Chairs of poker stuff. I'm
guessing you were busy. But the whole poker worlch has
a blaze by this guy Will Khalifa, which is basically
what you're just talking about right now, annoying people. This
guy was super loud for about two days. He took
over the internet. I mean, everyone's going crazy right now
the world. She's a poker is the one guy. Luckily

(03:11):
he got knocked out the final tables tomorrow. Absolute legend,
the Grinder, which if you're an old gambler, if you
if you love poker, this guy is the definition of
a degenera gambler. He's like a legend from back in
the day. He made the final table, which is awesome,
and I have a little bet on him. I had
another bet on a guy named Tony Greggs who got

(03:33):
knocked out right for the final table. So yeah, it's
it's been really fun. Honestly, I know you're not the
biggest poker guy. It's you. Obviously you're writing a book
right now. You've got other shit going on. Me I
got nothing going on. So I've just been watching twelve
hours NonStop poker until four or five in the morning,
and uh yeah, it's it's crazy the grinder Man from

(03:53):
back in the day they made it and a woman
made it. First woman make Final Table. Believe she's Spanish,
Margette I believe is her name. She's so good. So yeah,
really really great Final Table. I think it airs to Mars.
So yeah, it's been really fun.

Speaker 1 (04:08):
I actually I wanted to go on Saturday. There were
two events on Saturday that I wanted to go to
and didn't get to. But what's weird about this? You
mentioned I'm working on this book and I got there
Friday night. I landed at five o'clock. It was one
hundred and seven degrees when I got to my hotel,

(04:30):
and I immediately turned around and I went out to
dinner speaking of books with Joe Lupo. So old heads
of the show listening forever will know that Joe Lupo
twenty five years ago when I wrote The Odds, was
the bookmaker at the Stardust Hotel. He was one of
the main characters, along with Bob Scucci, who worked for
Joe and Alan Boston when I wrote The Odds. Joe

(04:52):
now is like, you know, one of the most powerful
executives and in Vegas, and he has been charged with
building the new hard Rock hotel that is going to
have the six hundred and twenty five foot guitar in
place where the Mirage used to be, because they just
tore the Mirage down. He went out there, was in
charge of Mirage in order to close it down, and

(05:15):
now they are building the hard Rock there. Joe and
I went out. Joe and I went to Nobu and
we sit down and they're like, hello, mister Lupo, good
to see you again, mister Lupo. I'm like this guy,
he was just some schmuck sitting in the back office
at the Stardust, and now he's got a table at Nobu,
which makes no sense. But here's what's interesting to me.

(05:36):
I've been working on in this book for six months. Right,
it's essentially a sequel to the Odds, Like how has
this world changed? Obviously, Simon, I'm talking to you. There's
a lot of other professional betters I'm talking to. I've
made thirteen trips. I've been to Philly, Lexington, Kentucky, New Orleans, Chicago, obviously,

(05:57):
I've been to New York and New Jersey, Boston, Costa Rica.
First trip in six months of reporting that I made
to Vegas. When I did the Odds, I literally lived
in Vegas for six months. Now it's like you, you
don't really need to even go there. That's how much

(06:19):
this world has changed. It's it's totally totally wild.

Speaker 2 (06:24):
Yeah, and I told you that a long time ago.
It's now. There's not many people left still in Vegas.
A lot of them are above the age of fifty.
There are some young blood that like Vegas, right, they
liked that lifestyle. But I would say that was my
favorite part of legalization. I've talked to about this, Like
that day it got legalized, I was out the fucking
door car, packed all my shit, left half my clothes

(06:45):
there because I just wanted to get out of Vegas
and back to Jersey starts setting up. So yeah, it's
some people love the dry heat and they love Vegas.
I need to see trees and grass. It's the Northeast
in me, Like, I can't just be in the desert
day in day out. So yeah, I told you it's
different there though, And that's why I love going there,
because it's like it's a time period and the guys

(07:05):
there are just so old school and so knowledgeable. Anytime
I go to Vegas. It's always a great time.

Speaker 1 (07:10):
I had a nice time. I spent some time with
the guys at Circa with Derek Stevens, the owner of Cirka,
and Jeff Benson, who's the bookmaker there. And then I
went to Summer League. I sat with Darryl Morey from
the Sixers, you know who's the president gyam of the Sixers,
Simon greg I watched the whole game with him. It
was phenomenal. At the end of the game, they were
playing Charlotte and they were down by three, and they

(07:31):
had a guy in the free throw line with ten
seconds left, and he made the first free throw. With
Darryl and another scout who he's known forever who we
were sitting with, started having this really interesting conversation about
what the positive ev play was, should he make the
free throw, should he miss the free throw? And to
hear two NBA professionals sort of talk about what is
the right play considering where they were in the game

(07:53):
with ten seconds left, even though it was a summer
League game, and how they think about it. It was awesome.
It was totally awesome. Some of the guys in six
all right, Simon, They did listen. On our next episode,
you and I are going to dig into the Fantasy
preview with Chris Raybunden and Cheer. Today it's time for

(08:13):
our favorite rankings episode of the year that always gets
somebody yelling at me. It's our very official, completely scientific
top ten NFL QB's list and reminder, unlike the silly
lists other experts do, this is primarily based from a
betting point of view, at least for you and me,

(08:35):
and I'll remind everyone to check out the clips and
highlights from the shows that we are doing as we
get into football. Go to my YouTube page at Real
Chad Milman. As we do every summer, we are going
to bring in Rich Reebar aka Lord Reeves on X.

(08:57):
He's going to give us the gut check on our
QUB list. He does a brilliant job analyzing the NFL
at Sharp Football Analysis. Everyone should go pick up their
cop copy of the Sharp Football Analysis twenty twenty five preview.
Warn Sharps sent me my copy, Simon. I've been digging in.
Welcome Rich, Yeah, what is going on?

Speaker 2 (09:19):
Guys?

Speaker 3 (09:20):
I look forward to this every year. It's you know,
funny you're talking about Vegas. I have two quick antidotes. One,
I'd like to know how much uno you're you're ready
to play? And then I saw that you know too
by My oldest son turns twenty one in February, and
we've been kind of plotting out that, you know, hey,
first week of March Madness will go to Vegas. There's
first trip, right, and he's just like, what what can

(09:42):
I do there that I can't already do?

Speaker 2 (09:44):
Like it's the same.

Speaker 3 (09:45):
Thing, wow, kind of laid out like it's just like,
oh man, you don't even know, but like he's not
even excited, like not even excited about it. Where you know,
it used to be like such a destination, like it
was such an adult playland, and now he's just like, wow,
I could bet I could bet at home.

Speaker 1 (09:59):
God, that is so interesting that he said that.

Speaker 2 (10:05):
Got him. So you don't know about the Bunny Ranch clearly,
you know.

Speaker 1 (10:09):
You know what's so it's like they used to have
the cars that drove around on the strip, Oh yeah,
with like the billboards.

Speaker 2 (10:18):
Yeah of different times.

Speaker 1 (10:21):
The escorts that you could call, and then on every
corner they had the kiosks that had like the magazines
with all the ads for every escort and those things
will get littered all over the street.

Speaker 2 (10:36):
That's what I was gonna say. That's my memory of it,
just after losing all my money walking to the corner. No,
I don't have any money to get a ride back,
so I got a walk and I'm out there and
I just see it in the streets. All that just
shredded up call numbers. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (10:51):
So what's interesting is there's none of that anymore. And
I was walking down Las Vegas Boulevard, and you know,
I was, I want to get an espresso, actually a
double macchiado simon at the Italy that is at the
Park MGM. And there was one little card with like

(11:12):
a woman and her picture and a number, and reminded
me of one of the times I was in Vegas
doing a story about sports betting or something for E sixty.
The producer I was with, uh uh called one of
the numbers on the driving on the billboards on one
of the things, left a message, but left my cell

(11:35):
phone number. Oh god, And for like four days after that,
I'm getting calls from lovely ladies. Rich that could be
your son if he needs If he needs a number
I can forwarded for him.

Speaker 3 (11:48):
We got to get these kids outside more. Now, you know,
you gotta get them out and experience life a little
bit more. I'm trying to trying to encourage it, but
I'm still gonna twist the arm and make them go.

Speaker 1 (11:58):
That's fucking shameful that he said that. I don't even
know if it deserves to go anymore. Make him go
to fucking New Jersey. He can go to the Meadowlands fun.

Speaker 2 (12:08):
It's like one of my old favorite memes. My daughters
get stressed out about going into Wendy's and ordering food.
When I was fifteen, I was taking my mom's car
and driving into Philly, Like it's just totally different worlds
where it's like everyone just very, very different than it
was back in the day. People aren't a crazy thing.

Speaker 1 (12:24):
Fucking coddled and lazy, coddled and lazy Rich. Alright, listen,
we're going to go through this, Matt Mitchell. We didn't
actually talk about an order in advance, So.

Speaker 2 (12:33):
I'm gonna go last, be the most, uh, the most.

Speaker 1 (12:38):
Back and forth was right, why don't why don't I
go first? And then Rich goes next? So then we
can see like how different his than mine? And then
we can get a pressure check from you. So I'm
going to go first. Here was my process. Okay, I
looked at the following stats, just examined how the quarterbacks

(13:00):
lined up ranked in recent memory, recent past. For these stats,
which to me are indicative of they're the most important
stats as you analyze a quarterback. I looked at EPA
expected points added EPA per drop back, which, for those
who don't know that basically just gets rid of a

(13:21):
lot of the messiness when you're examining EPA. I looked
at total sacks, and then I looked at QB pressure rate,
which basically tries to identify when quarterbacks are holding the
ball too long, making bad decisions putting themselves in a
position to be sacked outside of something being the fault

(13:43):
of the offensive line. And then I looked at fourth
down conversion. Okay. Then I asked Claude from Anthropic AI
to give me a list of the best qbs accounting
for the above criteria from twenty twenty five four and
for seasons twenty twenty two to twenty twenty four. Then

(14:05):
I compared all my my my list that I made
to Claude. It was really close. There was a difference
of like one or two. And then I did sort
of a gut check test on who I don't want
or do want it to have the ball in any
late game betting situation. Okay, so are you read? I
got some.

Speaker 2 (14:25):
Controversies started, ten, started ten.

Speaker 1 (14:26):
I'm starting at ten. I got a listed in ten. Okay,
number ten. Baker Mayfield. Baker was was on the edge
of my list the whole time. And then when I
did all the stuff like he was like to me
nine ten eleven, nine ten eleven, and he was dropping

(14:48):
in and out when I just did it off the
top of my head looking at these stats. And then
when I did it with Ai Baker for twenty four
and for twenty twenty two to two, twenty twenty four
was in the top ten for both, he was tenth.
So that solidified for.

Speaker 2 (15:04):
Me, we're locked in chat. We're both Baker guys. I
got Baker at ten two.

Speaker 1 (15:07):
All right, fucking a. That was what I was most
worried about.

Speaker 2 (15:10):
Okay, I know I'm going to walk and dive into
I'm with you. He was a really tough one because
like all these quarterbacks, people that don't like him, they
can give you good reasons. You can agree with it,
but me, like, I'm agreeing with you. There's a lot
of reasons too, like Baker and the numbers back it up.
And also just watch them play. Anyone who watches them play,
you know that the offense. Yeah, exactly. So I'm right

(15:30):
there with you at ten. All right.

Speaker 1 (15:32):
Number nine, This is a little controversial, and part of
what I'm doing here is I'm projecting what I think
is going to happen. Uh. I put Rock Party at
nine pretty again, like he was sort of ten, eleven,
twelve for me, And I put him at nine because

(15:54):
he deserves to be in there based on the metrics
and what I prioritized, but also he was there when
I ran it through AI and I'm thinking about what
my expectations are for him in this upcoming season. Okay,
Number eight, justin Herbert. I like, I'm a little bit

(16:15):
off Herbert. He's so good and so talented, and even
last year he was great and he was in the
top ten for all these things, but he, to me
was sort of on the bubble. Seven. I had Jared
Goff six, I had Jaden Daniels five, I had Jalen

(16:35):
Hurts four, Joe Burrow three, Lamar two, Josh Allen one,
Patrick Mahomes. And if you looked at just the stats
and took out any sort of betting metrics, any sort
of historical precedent when it comes to making gambling decisions,

(17:01):
your one, two or three would be Burrow, Lamar, Josh Allen.
In any combination of those orders, just based on the stats,
Mahomes would be four going back to twenty twenty two
if you include all those three seasons. But he's earned
it and he's still going to be a guy who
you never want to bet against, and in fact this
year you might get a little bit of value because

(17:22):
of how it went down in the Super Bowl. So
that's why Mahomes was number one to me on my
outside looking in Stafford eleven, two, twelve, c. J. Stroud thirteen.
To every single metric, he would be up there because

(17:48):
of the offense he plays in You just don't have
any faith in him. You don't have any faith in
the Dolphins, but it's hard to ignore him completely. I
didn't put him in the top ten, even though statistically
he would be in the top ten, probably seventy to
eighty nine, just because of the betting stuff, and because
you know, I have a lot less faith in him
than I do and say Baker or even brock Purty.

(18:09):
So that's it. That's it. Matt Mitchell said he thinks
I should be in jail for some of these things.
I'm there, listen as they say, feedback is a gift.
I'm opening a feedback rich, Rich would you like to
give me some feedback.

Speaker 3 (18:27):
I don't have a ton of real pushback, to be honest,
you know, my list has a lot of overlap to years.
My criteria has always been if we were just reshuffling
the NFL and doing like a fantasy draft, these are
the orders I would pick the quarterbacks to win me
a Super Bowl this year, Like, this is the order
that I would take them. And I had a hard time,

(18:50):
like you you know, who is the number ten?

Speaker 2 (18:52):
Right?

Speaker 3 (18:52):
Like who's the cutoff? Who are we leaving off? And
I had a lot of guys in consideration. Baker was
on my list. It was Baker, Golf and Jorda Love
and CJ. Stroud based on like kind of the criteria,
and I kind of just thought I had I would
have Stroud there based on like the career arc.

Speaker 2 (19:08):
So he slid.

Speaker 1 (19:09):
Into my ten.

Speaker 3 (19:10):
I think that I gave him the benefit of the
doubt that he would played in a tougher conference than
Baker and Jared Goff and has playoff wins in both
of his first two years in the NFL on imperfect teams.
I mean, a ton of wide receiver injuries, offensive line
play has been a question. I just think from a
talent perspective, even though he took a step back last year,
he's still a player in the long run, this is
a guy you still want leading your football teams. So

(19:32):
that's why I kind of just gave him the benefit
of the doubt. But you know, Goff and Baker and
Love were kind of all in consideration there, and like you,
I also have brock Purty nine. I think last year
solidified like the Brock Party like kind of argument for me.
I know that'll never go away, but you know, last
year because the first two year is brock Purty's career,
you know, essentially like, oh, how much is this Kyle Shanahan,

(19:53):
how much is his all his weaponry? Well, last year,
the forty nine ers and fifty seven total plays with McCaffrey,
I UK, Deebo, Samuel and George Kittle all on the
field together with brock Purty. Trent Williams missed seven games,
and brock Purty despite all of that fifteen EPA per
drop back, third and yards for pass him fourth and
success rate, he took the offense and tried to carry
it as far as he could, you know, last year.

(20:15):
So I think he's solidified from a talent perspective, Like
he's not Garoppolo, Like this is a guy that creates
a lot of structure he can create on his own,
and that kind of locked him in. For me, I
have Stafford eight. I just think you just look at Stafford, like,
you know, the two playoff losses, he has the Rams
a one point loss to Detroit, and then last year
they have the ball on the thirteen yard line in
Philly with a shot to win before Jalen Carter wrecks him.

(20:38):
So I mean Stafford still gets the benefit out For me,
I have Herbert seven. I've been the three years we've
done this, I've been kind of like the lone support
of justin Herbert. It feels like I've been the one
that's like tried to keep him, you know, in the
mix here and been supportive of him. Then I have
Jayden Daniels like you, and then I follow this almost
the same more Jane Daniels six, Jalen Hurts five. All
Jalen Hurts does is win. And I know a lot

(20:59):
of people say, like QB wins aren't a stat I
actually disagree. I think over a big course of time,
QB wins do tell you a lot. And you you
go back to college. This dude's had what nine different
coordinators in you know those last you know, ten years
of playing football, thirty eight and four as a starter
in college. Only you know josh Allen Patrick Mahomes have
a higher win rate in the NFL since he joined
Since he joined the NFL, he almost would have two

(21:21):
Super Bowl MVPs. So I'm not I still have Jail
and Hurts. You know, at five, I have Lamar behind
Burrow just for the playoff stuff, right, Like I mean, Lamar,
especially paired with Tom Mockett, has been absolutely scary. What
a scary football player he's been. But again, you know,
one conference finals. Still, you know Burrow's five and two
in the playoffs. You know Lamar is only three and

(21:41):
five in the playoffs. Side, I kind of broke the
tie there uh, and then Alan Mahomes. So like we're
we do have a lot of overlap. So I actually
don't think that you should be put in jail today.

Speaker 1 (21:51):
My biggest, my biggest, uh, sort of ins and outs.
It came down really I liked Baker at ten. To me,
it was really about Purty, Herbert Stafford, CJ. Like I
just couldn't figure out who I wanted in those spots.
And with Stafford, I worry about the age. I feel

(22:17):
like he was a little bit off last year. He
gets by on moxie and smarts, and I still would
never want to bet against him. CJ. I probably would
have put in before because I think a lot of
CJ's issues can be rectified with improved offensive line play.
And look, he took a lot of sacks last year
and his pressure rate wasn't great, And I think unlike

(22:39):
other players whose pressure rate isn't great either, like Lamar
or even Patrick Mahomes, they hold the ball for longer
because of their ability to maneuver in the pocket, look downfield,
find open players. I think CJ last year was a
little bit gun shy and was holding the ball a
little bit longer than he should have not because he

(23:01):
can maneuver, but because the offensive line was so bad.
He found himself, right, So that's why I didn't put
him in, like, because if anything's gonna get fixed, it
needs to be that. But I don't know that it
will be fascinating, all right, I don't feel like such
an idiot so far.

Speaker 3 (23:22):
Two is the only one that I think you look
at that the the history of just punching up above weight,
like and you guys know this as better. It's like
four and sixteen against playoff teams to a like just.

Speaker 1 (23:35):
Yeah, Like, look, two was one of those guys who's
he's never gonna get credit because he's such a stat
machine based on the offense. Right, He's not a guy
who you're thinking you put him somewhere else and he's
gonna win and golf, like, look, Jared Goff he won

(23:56):
with the Rams and then he went to the Lions
and he's won with the Lions. And you could say
Ben Johnson is brilliant. You can say Sean McVay is brilliant,
but he still is executed. And I think he's grown
as a quarterback and I think there's a lot of
belief in what his skill set is and you've seen
what he can do well, and whoever they bring in
will be smart enough to figure out how to put
him in the right position. So I think there's a

(24:18):
difference between like a system Jared Goff and a system
to a.

Speaker 3 (24:22):
The difference between golf though any that ties the two
of those is he's never gonna give you anything of
his legs, Like if I need, if I need Jared
Goff to get himself out of a bad play, like
I have no faith in that happening, like you know, athletically,
and that's what that's the one hang up, Like I
need those guys that have the spade that can pull
themselves out of the heart of darkness and would just

(24:42):
get me a football play, right, like you think, like
that Lamar play against the Bengals last year, I touchdown
to Isaiah likely like Jared Goff was never coming into
anything close to that or like that's the thing with
like you know, Josh Allen just like taking over games
and creating these plays just out of thin air on
their own. And that's why I think, but Baker has
that more than golf does, because Baker has like that
wolverine mentality. Real, Yeah, yeah, almost to a fault. Like

(25:03):
it's a baker. You can't try to run that lineback rover,
but he don't care.

Speaker 1 (25:07):
Here's what I'm loving about Quarterback on Netflix A Kirk
Cousins and his brother and their friends. I don't know
if you guys have seen the show, but there is
an episode where Kirk cousins buddies from high school and
his brother come to visit and they always try to

(25:27):
dress up in some outfit that makes Kirk Cousins laugh.
And this year they dressed up as some like eighties
dude in you know, some TikTok video. And then afterwards
they were all going to some drive through to get
burgers after the game. And in the front seat you
got Kirk Cousins and his brother, I think they're singing
cher and in the backseat kirk cousins kid is yelling

(25:49):
please stop, please stop, and the brother and Kirk Cousins
are just going longer and longer and louder and louder.
Love those guys. I don't know if Jared Goff and
his wife actually have anything to say to each other.
They seem to have the most sort of uninteresting conversations.
And Joe Burrow is very cool, but also doesn't seem

(26:10):
to have very much to say.

Speaker 2 (26:13):
Yeah, I'll say at the top. Kirk Cousins is the
whitest person ever. Like, I literally can't watch him. He's
so white. It's so it's uncomfortable. I get why people
should on Kirk Cousins. It's like him going to haircuttery
getting a fifteen dollars haircut, the whole thing. See.

Speaker 1 (26:26):
I think he's so authentically himself, like he doesn't care
sort of how bad he loves.

Speaker 2 (26:31):
The course, doesn't care. He's the whitest dude ever. He's like, literally,
when people talk about white people, that's what they're talking about.
He hasn't season his chicken. He is the exact thing.
He kisses his dog open mouth. He's everything people talk about.

Speaker 1 (26:44):
You know what, sneaky good singing voice.

Speaker 2 (26:47):
I hated Chad's list. You're a very nice rich Chad's
list was painful to me. Pretty above Stafford, I think
you had pretty above c J. Stroud, who's two and
two in the playoffs. So Chad just broke down to
all of you guys, why you can never go by
the numbers. Having two in this conversation makes me want
to rip my hair out. It's I didn't put.

Speaker 1 (27:06):
You in the conversation like I'm with you.

Speaker 2 (27:10):
Like the from eight to twelve is pretty tough for
me as well. I agree with that part. But I'll
get into mind right here. I did a twelve just
because of that, because I just want to show the
back end of mine. I do want to make the
statement that rich is right. For the last two years,
you guys have both had Herbert in your top ten,
and I have consistently had Jalen Hurts over Herbert, and

(27:30):
I am looking like a genius compared to you two
because Herbert just had four picks in the playoffs. Well,
Jalen Hurts, of course went to Super Bowl. So from
the top, Chad, who is the greatest quarterback to ever
play this sport?

Speaker 1 (27:44):
Tom Brady?

Speaker 2 (27:45):
Okay? And who's the greatest modern day quarterback playing right now?

Speaker 1 (27:48):
Patrick Mahomes?

Speaker 2 (27:49):
Okay? And why did you Why do you say that?

Speaker 1 (27:52):
Because pack Mahomes has consistently won one what consistently one? What?

Speaker 2 (27:59):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (27:59):
The super won the Super Bowl.

Speaker 2 (28:02):
So that's that's all I needed from here. That's what
my major point was. My list is based off past performance.
Who deserves me ranked at the top, right, I'm not
talking about the best athlete.

Speaker 1 (28:11):
You've got to count down from ten, don't.

Speaker 2 (28:13):
The guy gets the most stats. Yeah, I just want
to say my number twelve was Herbert, So I have
Herbert outside my top ten again. And I was really
hard between Herbert and Love at that spot. And then
I do have pretty at fourteen, so that doesn't matter.
So I'm with Chad. I had Baker at ten, and
now you.

Speaker 1 (28:27):
Go at eleven. Do you have Loved at eleven?

Speaker 2 (28:29):
Uh? Golf? Okay, Yeah, So like the same thing where Jared,
it's the same thing with Stafford. I move him up
because he doesn't have athleticism, Like, he does not have
his legs to fall back on. He is the old
school pocket movement, throwing the ball like that was what
we all grew up up in Love. So it's like
I had a fun. It's like you said, it's tough

(28:49):
at these at these points to fight over it. But
I had Baker above him. Then Daniels I had to
get Danner's respect, like it's it's so hard for me
to put a rookie in the spot. I think last
year we were all the same thing. We all had
seed eight or nine last year. Same thing with me
with Daniels this year, it's like eighty percent of fourth down,
the whole thing. You could not blitz the kid. We've
never seen anything like it. You have to put him
in your top ten for making a list. But some

(29:12):
people having him at number five, that to me is
just insane. It's like you're banking too much on future.
What's gonna happen in the future. So I have him
in nine. CJ at number eight. He had the season
from hell, still made the playoffs and then won a
playoff game against a Chargers team that everyone was blowing
smoke up their ass, especially end of that playoffs. You know,

(29:32):
that was just such a huge win for me because
that team was dead. They were dead. I know they
have a great defense. We're going I mean this upcoming season.
They're probably my third highest rated defense coming to the
season next year, Houston, like they have an incredible defense.
But that playoff win against the Chargers was on CJ.
He didn't keep making the mistakes. That Chiefs game was
much closer than people remember, Like they went to Arrowhead

(29:53):
and CJ had them in a really good position. So
I have to give a ton of respect to CJ.
Put him at number eight, number seven, the man that's
left for dead. I can't believe you guys can't have
him on your list. Dak? What did Dak do to you?
I don't get what happened with Dak. You know this
is one year and Dak is dead to everyone. He
almost went.

Speaker 3 (30:11):
He was horrendous before his hamstring injury last year.

Speaker 2 (30:14):
I agree, I agree, but it's like I looked the
fourth because the first four weeks is so weird now
with guys not playing in the preseason. To me, that's
the tune up. Like same with Joe Burrow, Joe Brow
did we thought he was not going to last a
week five? I mean, he was so terrible those first
four weeks. Is he just need to get his arm right?
And I think the same with Dak. But Dak, the
hates just gone too far. And I knew as soon

(30:35):
as I put him on this list, I was like,
I bet you, Chad's gonna leave him off. Chad hates
guy's coming off injured seasons. This share enough, here's the show.
I did not have Dak.

Speaker 1 (30:42):
I I considered Dak. I bet you did, And honestly,
I know you know, in the coming weeks we're gonna
do a playoff episode where you and I will predict
who we think will make the playoffs from the AFC,
the NFC, and a little foreshadowing here because of Dak

(31:04):
and his return, the Cowboys will be an important part
of that conversation. Dak was was like my final four
were Herbert Purdy, CJ. Baker, Herbert Purty, CJ, and Stafford
for like that nine to eight spot eleven twelve spot,

(31:25):
Baker was always ten. Dak was in there like it
the last guy out of that five.

Speaker 2 (31:31):
You've left him for dead and I'm with you on
Dak right. Our big pushback we thought all the time
is Dak is two and five in the playoffs. That
is a big deal. And it was really hard for
me with him in CIG because CJ is two and two.
To me, that's all that Matter's. All this other bullshit
that we've become obsessed with does not matter. Can you
win and succeed in the playoffs, because that's all that matters.

(31:51):
Legacy wise, we started from the top. Tom Brady's the goat,
not because he was the greatest offensive genius ever, like
Payton Manning, it's because he fucking won the playoffs, something
Ayden Manny could not consistently do, and Dak it feels
like a make him break, like people are already forgetting
about him. Like Chad, he just broke it down, like
it's what have you done for me lately? And I
get why that's pushed out on Dak, but I'm I'm

(32:12):
looking at the perspective of last year was a hell season.
Every of the year before that, he usually gets you
twelve wins. He's very consistent, so I'm giving him respect.
You know again, two and five in the playoffs is glaring, though,
And that brings back to my next one, which I
think is gonna shock you. Chad. Number six I got
Joe Burrow. Joe Burrow last year really disappointed me in

(32:33):
many ways. I get it. We can we can make
put all of it on his defense, right, Higgins sitting
out a bunch of games because he's pissed about his contract.
I agree with a lot of that. But me and
you bet in a lot of Joe Burrow games. And
I was locked in a lot of Joe Burrow games,
and we learned early on this dude cannot beat a
team of the winning record. His first win against a
team of the winning record, I believe didn't come until
he played Denver or Pittsburgh thend the season. I think

(32:54):
he won two games against teams of winning records. That
was Denver in Pittsburgh the end of the season. Like
when he played against good teams, he folded that offense
fold And a lot of that goes on to Joe Burrow,
where he beat the shit out of the Panthers. You
want to give him a bad team, bad defense. He
did play really well and that's why he had great
numbers on the season. But to me, he's not done
enough since that Super Bowl run. And you could say

(33:15):
a lot of it is, you know, bad injuries, the
team's not drafted well, they haven't paid the right guys,
terrible defense, offensive line. I agree with a lot of that,
But at the same time, a lot of it also
falls on Joe Burrow, like that team should have been
a playoff team last season and they didn't make it.
He said it so himself. He knows a couple of
those games he just blew. I mean that Ravens game
two sticks out of my mind. That they're up ten,

(33:35):
he's got the ball and just stupid turnover. So that
was the reason I had Joe Burrow outside my top five.

Speaker 1 (33:41):
Simon, I am. I have always been on this list.
Joe Burrow heavy to the point where I would put
him above Josh Allen, just Andrew Patrick Mahomes. I thought
I was We.

Speaker 2 (33:52):
Both had him at three last year.

Speaker 1 (33:54):
I thought I was like pushing it putting him at
four after Lamar, and so you go in to six.
I think is a very bold move.

Speaker 2 (34:03):
Because it's again it's based off past performances where it's like,
I agree going forward Joe Burrow. Am I gonna win
Stafford over Joe Burrow? No, but I have I have
Stafford number five because of what he's done in the past.
And you know that Eagles game, he couldn't get anything
going in that snow, he was dead. Anyone else would
have folded up, But that veteran moxie is why we

(34:24):
love Stafford. You give him an inch, he took it
like he literally took that Eagles team to the break,
which was just so impressive. And that whole season he
played through injuries. He willed that team. I think they
had another really bad start to the season and they
didn't matter right the end of the season. I believe
eight and two or eight and three, it's just all
about him and the fact that they brought in Adams
as well. I think we have another really great year

(34:46):
from this. I believe it's his last year on his
contract too with the Rams, so it's it just feel
like it's all lined up for him and I that's
why I put him at number five. It's like he's
got the ring, he's got the years added up, and
you know it's once again he can't use his legs
like these other guys are about to mention. That is
such a big deal for a guy like him. So yeah,
Stafford number five, number four went with Lamar. You know Lamar,

(35:10):
We love Lamar. People think we're big Lamar haters on
the show. We all know Lamar has all the talent
in the world. Lamar also gets a lot of excuses
that someone who's coming up with my list does not get.
Jalen Hurts. You give Lamar Derrick Henry a great running
back that should have been enough to put them over
the edge in the playoffs, and it was, but he
made those mistakes once again. And he is someone that

(35:31):
at this point he's three and five in the playoffs.
That is a big deal. Like this isn't some kid.
Now He's gonna be twenty eight years old this upcoming season.
That's a big deal, right, we have the years at
this point, he's three and five. Lamar's got a breakthrough
because haters like me or I'm just gonna keep getting
louder because it's been profitable fading him in the playoffs,
Like we pick our spots when he's playing against these

(35:53):
not so great teams. He can perform when it's Josh Allen,
when it's Mahomes, Me and Chat already know if it's
under three, we're auto betting that team against him. So
that's that's how the Lamar's got to come out of.
And that's why I haven't at number four because to me,
number three, Josh Allen, he deserves to be number three.
The highest hold on crazyck on this list.

Speaker 1 (36:14):
All Right, what's crazy is I'm keeping track of your
list here and I'm counting down after Lamar. I had
already put it in Hurts because I assumed you're number one,
and two is going to be Allen and Mahomes. No,
you just said to me, Josh Allen.

Speaker 2 (36:32):
Yeah, because again it's it's based off pass performance. Hurts
has done something that Allen has never done. He's outplayed
Mahomes in a game in the playoffs and won straight up.
That's all that matters. I mean, no one's doubting Josh
Allen has more talent than Hurts. The kid was a
fucking first round pick. Hurts is the second round pick.
Like you know that that stuff. He'll never catch up.

(36:54):
Metric wis right. The body style is just different, but
the mental aspect of it, whatever happens, Josh Allen keeps
getting caught by Mahomes. And we can put excuses right,
blame the coaching staff. The talent's there. They had a
top five on the offensive line last season, he had
a running a running back who rushed for sixteen touchdowns.
He won MVP. There was no doubt that offense. Our
question was that defense. And the defense gave him a

(37:17):
ten point lead with the ball in the fourth quarter
and he didn't live up to it in that moment
against Mahomes and he faltered. And it keeps happening, and
we keep making excuses. Now we're in year twenty, he's
twenty nine years old, so to me. He's another guy
that just needs to step up in the playoffs. And
that's why I have him below Hurts, because Hurts went
over that hump where Josh Allen. You can't say he

(37:38):
doesn't have the talent. He has the talent around him.
It's all on him at this point. So yeah, I
put Josh on number three. Chad already said number two
Jalen Hurts, And I want to do a little exercise
here with Chad. Chad, close your eyes. You haven't won
a playoff game since twenty ten. Your Bears have been terrible.
You draft the quarterbacks, and I tell you, by aage

(37:59):
two twenty six, he's gonna win the NFC twice. He's
gonna go to two Super Bowls. He's gonna be runner
up MVP. He's gonna be an All Pro. He will
win a super Bowl in his twenty six year old
season and be super MVP. Is that your guy? Is
that the guy you want that takes down Mahomes? Is
that your number two quarterback?

Speaker 1 (38:19):
I see that and I want him on my team
so badly.

Speaker 2 (38:22):
It's rare are So I just want to tell you
these quarterbacks to reach two super Bowls in their first
five seasons, Tom Brady, John Elway, Patrick Mahomes, Ben Roethlisberger,
Kurt Warner. That's a pretty good fucking list to beyond
that famous and like Rich said, all he does is win.
I agree with everyone, Me and Chad. We have stats.
You don't think I have a fucking computer. I can

(38:42):
see his number of people like I got so much hate.
I changed my bio on Twitter to qbs are a
q wins are a QB stat because I agree with it.
Where it's we went too far the other way where
it's like qbs do qbs do matter? Two wins? To me,
it's it went too far the other way where it's like, well,
not all wins are blame the quarterback. Agree, But these

(39:03):
teams have so much talent. The Ravens, for three years
in a row, have a higher grade in almost anyone's
you know, betting algorithm than the Eagles or the Chiefs,
both those teams. I mean, the Ravens keep faltering. So
that's my thing with Hurtz. It's just it's too much
gone the other way where I agree with people, like

(39:23):
there's certain things he does where I'm just like, I
don't trust it. He's not in rhythm things like that,
but in the biggest games, the biggest moments of things
that matter, the only thing we really care about the
end of the day, which is playoff wins and Super
Bowl wins. He's exceeded expectations to the highest level, like again,
twenty six years old to super Bowl, super Bowl VP.
I just think the hate's gone too far one way,

(39:44):
and I'm happy to see a lot of people now
have them back inside their top ten quarterbacks. To me
in this list and being number two, it's just because
of what he's done past performance and going forward, I
think he's gonna keep getting better. Like his ceiling, I
don't think he's reached it yet. We all can agree
he obviously took a step back and let it be
Saquon's team. But you didn't hear too many people saying, Chad, well,

(40:05):
you know, Saquon's only good because that offensive line that
never really happened, right, It was just, oh, this offensive
line helps succeed go higher than you could ever go
before because of the talent level. So that's my view
on Hurtz. People said he wouldn't be able to run
the ball. The sneak QB sneak once Kelsey left didn't
matter because why it's about Hurts. It's not about the center.
It's about the guy who's short, can deadlift five hundred

(40:27):
pounds and he's a freak athlete. So that's my long
winded defense on why I have him number two. Do
I have a rebuttal Rich, I know you're cooking up something.

Speaker 3 (40:34):
No, I mean, like I said, I just I think
when you get up into that area, like I don't
really have a lot of pushback. I think with the
top five, I think the back five is where we
probably have our most disagreements, and then you know, the
top five, whatever order you want to put him in.
I think Hurts definitely belongs in that conversation for all
the reasons he said. If you look at last year,
heally had seventy nine dropbacks last year with AJ Brown debout,
they Smith and Dallas Goddard on the field, Like those

(40:56):
guys were in and out of the line up the
entire season, and they still were in position to be,
you know, the one seed, and still in position to
go to the super Bowl. And so like, I think
that Hurts gets kind of a bad flat because I
think it's he's propped up. But they say, like his environment,
like he's just the you know, going along for the ride, right,
like he's.

Speaker 2 (41:12):
A bus driver.

Speaker 3 (41:13):
But that really wasn't the case last year, especially even
in the playoffs, because sake, I mean, they win that game. Obviously,
the defense has a big part deal to do with
like the way that score got out of hand after
the Dijon interception. But Sequan did nothing in that Super Bowl,
absolutely nothing. Spags said they're gonna take away one guy,
and who's the one guy they took away Squon and
Hurts you know, put them position to have that lead.

(41:36):
They had the ball, you know, he threw that interception
of the two and then that was what the pick
six came right after that, and then kind of just
that game was never in the same kind of you know,
stratosphere of like being a competitive game again. But you
go back three years ago. He was the best player
in the field that Super Bowl too, you know, just
camp short, but he was by far the best player
in that game. So he could have two Super Bowl MEPs,

(41:56):
you know at this point, and.

Speaker 2 (41:58):
That's what I'm surpressed with Chad. The moment start too.
I always go back to that Georgia Alabama game where
he sat the whole season behind Tua. Yeah, Tua gets hurt.
He comes in, I believe they're down a touchdown and
he beats Georgia by a touchdown, like came in not
playing the whole season in the SEC championship game, and
that to me speaks to the character of them. And
it's another season that he's a different OC. So what

(42:20):
we see a year from two years ago where he
fell apart right the year from hell at the end
of the season they lost seven to row. Or will
he in this new oc gel like he did this
past year. So it's a big deal and obviously number
one Chad, no doubt about it. Mahomes. I mean, how
can you not have Mahomes? He almost got the three
pet We've never say anything like it. Like you look
at his stats. You know we're early, you can say

(42:43):
we're early days here, but if you look at his
stats against Tom Brady's other great ones, he has had
the better start to his career than anybody else between MVPs,
everything like that. And he's been slept on once again
because of the numbers. Like we all do in the offseason,
we dig into the numbers Mahomes every year his numbers
have gone down, and it's you know, people are gonna

(43:04):
question it, They're gonna throw different things about that, but
I just think it's he just knows. He just guy
has to make it the January. Don't put himself in
these bats and aarios no need to hang on the
ball too long and take these unnecessary hits quick throws.
It's a mainly a running team now, and yeah, they're
a team. I'm really excited to dive into the sumod season, Chad,
because everything I've heard is just kind of been negative

(43:25):
towards this Chiefs team. And you can get them right
now ten to one super Bowl odds. So it's an
interesting year heading into the season. I'm glad all three
of us from Homes Number one.

Speaker 1 (43:36):
You rich you think they're going to open it up?
Tell me.

Speaker 3 (43:37):
I think when you look at the signal of what
they wanted to intend to do last year versus what
they had to do based on injuries, I don't think
that was the plan right. Like the plan if you
watch them the first month of the season, well, first
hollywo gets hurt in the preseason, and the plan was
never to run this passing game through a thirty five
year old Travis Kelsey, you know, or she Rice goes
down in week four, Pa Checko goes down in week three,

(43:59):
and like the offense kind of just defaults back to
the half the funnel things through this, you know, version
of Kelsey that is a lesser version of Kelsey. You know,
he's still a great player, but like definitely when you
look at Kelsey, everyone was a father. Time comes to everyone.
He's gonna be thirty six this year. This year, now
everyone is healthy coming in. You've got Pacheco a full
year removed from the fibul injury. Hollywood's on track to play,

(44:20):
where Shie Rice is already you know, on on track
to play. He was already participating in OTAs. You get
a second year Zavier Worthy. I think this team's gonna
run a lot more eleven personnel. The offensive line is
kind of the one big question mark. Obviously, you gamble,
you know, you know a player that's coming off with
significant injury in the first round at left tackle. But
I mean that's what fell apart last year. It was
disappointing to see an Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes led

(44:42):
team really kind of creator in on itself last year
in the Super Bowl based on something that kind of
we knew objectively coming into that game was something that
could happen and an outcome in them to not have
a counter punch dialed up, where just the four man
Eagles pass rush was absolutely oblittering in them and they
had no quick game. But that goes to test with
they had no run game either, Like you know, they're

(45:02):
running their offense the Kareem Hunts out here leading the backfield,
like I think this Chiefs team is, you know, obviously
I don't know. I think we're going to go back
to the peak Tyreek Hill, peak Travis Kelce version of
the Chiefs where they're throwing the ball down the field again.
But I do think that what they wanted to do
last year, they never had a chance to do it
because of the injuries they had early in the year.

Speaker 1 (45:22):
So, I mean, I think the biggest difference is, uh,
between me and you and Rich No Herbert for you,
Dak for you? Rich? Can you explain I gave a
little bit of an explanation about why I didn't have
Dak on my list. What are your thoughts on not

(45:42):
including Dak?

Speaker 3 (45:44):
Yeah, I think that you know, Dak just the historical
you know, punching up in big games, him coming off
of a significant injury, whereas you know, as hamstring was
basically detached, you know, gonna be thirty two, the rushing
component was already dwindling from his game already. So I
just kind of, you know, ros him out. He's definitely
a guy that I don't think is like I wouldn't
put him like in the bottom dwelling of QBS. But

(46:05):
you know, the baseline, like the way my criteria was,
I think that, you know, he still falls behind those
other players, and then I think definitely factor in like
team context too. It's it's hard to kind of think
get behind the where the Cowboys have kind of headed
right now. The offensive line is worse on paper. The
they do add George Pickens with the backfield looks like
a mess right now, the secondary looks like a mess.

(46:27):
I think, I'm curious, yes, you you're do you seem
like you're a supporter or the Cowboys do. They also
have one of the worst schedules in the league this year,
like they're their team. That terrifies me I and especially Brian.
They hire brought and shot Shottenheimer, head coach, like we're
doing this, like this is what we're doing Cowboys, Like
this is this Like it's just.

Speaker 1 (46:44):
A reason why I do like I do like the
Cowboys a little bit. And we're going to talk about
this in a couple of weeks.

Speaker 3 (46:48):
But uh, especially in that division, you know, Commander's Eagles.

Speaker 1 (46:53):
Uh, I feel like the Cowboys defense could have been
so much better than it was last year, and offense,
you know, because they had so many injuries. They were
down to basically nobody on either side of the ball
of any skill or repute, but not having Micah Parsons
the way they did, losing defensive lineman interior defensive lineman

(47:16):
at a rate that was similar to what was happening
with the Lions on their defensive side of the ball.
So I think that's a little bit underplayed. And there's
so much made about what a horrible decision it was
to hire Bright Brian Schottenheimer and just sort of the
way the Cowboys have generally been mismanaged as an organization
and a roster. But to Simon's credit, I might be

(47:42):
overlooking Dak's ability to influence and paper over some holes.
But to me, it's really about the improved defensive line
for the Cowboys and their ability to disrupt that. I
think people are overlooking right now.

Speaker 2 (47:55):
Yeah, I feel like they had an easy fix, right
They need to stop the run and run the ball.
There are two biggest weaknesses, no do, no doubt about it.
Last season they could not stop the run. Had the
worst running offense in football. So we'll see if they
addressed that. But yeah, the fact that you know they
keep drafting young studs on the offensive line. Dak now
has a great number two option, Like it feels like

(48:17):
I know they have a tough, tough schedule, but is
lined up from this season where you know they should
have a really good offense and a good defense. So
their team that Chad knows I've been talking about for
about four months now, is just an undervalued team that's
gonna be slept on because you just you're in a
division with a team that won the Super Bowl and
arguably be the best rookie quarterback we've ever seen. So
it just lines up as a better just an undervalued

(48:38):
team that people just it's not fun to bet Dallas
right now, and it's been a run of the publics
like backing them, and they're fans have backed them. Even
their fans are like, I don't know about this team.
So yeah, I'm excited to see what kind of season
they have because, like we just talked about Dak, it's
getting a little late here, brother, two and five playoffs,
Like you guys are making moves at this point. So yeah,

(49:01):
I'm with you, Chad. It's a big year for.

Speaker 1 (49:02):
Dallas, Simon. You and I, the big difference is you
have CJ, Dak and Stafford. I did not include those
guys in their place. I had Herbert Purty and who
else did I have there? And Golf that you did

(49:24):
not include. So those are our biggest differences. Herbert and Golf,
for you were on the outside and Purdy was on
the outside. So interesting, very interesting, And.

Speaker 2 (49:38):
I will give credit to Herbert if he can, i
mean muster it together somehow win that division, that would
change a lot of my views on him, because that's
just been the Achilles heel for them. They can't win
the division, they're in a wild card game. He goes
on the road in the playoffs and he just gets
his ass kicked like that just keeps happening. So hopefully Herbert,
I know, our guy, our uncle Colin is all in
on the Chargers this season. I am him totally. The

(50:00):
other way. You're getting minus one ten of the chiefs
in that division running to the window to bet that one.
So the books, the public, everyone is in on this Chargers,
this Chargers team in Denver. So yeah, Herbert, I'm with you, guys,
like no one's denying the talent level. We all see
the talent. It's just can you finally step up in
the biggest game, just get a playoff win? Herbert, let
me just say a one next to that too, because

(50:22):
it's it's just brutal seeing that he's just so bad
in the playoffs and we know the talent's there.

Speaker 1 (50:28):
Matt Mitchell, can you tell us in the chat which
which decision I made that you felt I should have
been arrested for. Was it rock Perdy?

Speaker 2 (50:39):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (50:40):
Pretty above Stafford, prety above Stafford as well. Yeah, he
didn't like Stafford to me, was the hardest choice to
leave out. You know, like we have been all in
on Stafford and I would normally put Stafford six or five,
and I just feel like going four word this is uh,

(51:03):
you know, an opportunity for party to vault over. He's
also you know, Matt Mitchell is also criticizing my love
for Tua. To be clear, I was making a Devil's
advocate argument for Tua. I wasn't saying he should be
on the list. I was actually making the same twelve,

(51:25):
making the same point Simon made, which is that if
you just go by the numbers, you would put two
in there. But we don't just go by the numbers.
We go by more than just the numbers. And there's
a difference, a nuanced difference between looking at the numbers
and saying, Okay, this is what it is. Rich backed
me up here as one of the brightest minds covering football,

(51:47):
or just saying, hey, there's a lot of things that
come into play here.

Speaker 3 (51:52):
Well, I think that was the kind of the case
we're perty in Tua. Right when you compare the two,
you know, how much was was it this this player,
this core back versus kind of the system? And we
saw some things kind of fall apart in Miami last year,
and you know, Tua didn't play as good as football,
whereas everything fell apart from the forty nine ers and
brock Perty still played really good football. That's why I

(52:14):
think it solidifies, especially the loss of Christian McCaffrey. I mean,
you look at last year. Only forty nine percent of
Party's dropbacks last year came with the middle of the
field closed. You know, your single high safeties, right, because
they didn't have to respect the run the first two
years of his career fifty nine point nine percent sixty
and a half percent. Because teams had to respect Christian McAffrey.
The Christan McCaffrey was in the field, teams were like,
all right, brock Purty beat us. And you know what

(52:35):
he did, throws ten yards a further downfield led the
league in completion rate over ten percent higher than the
league average. Like this again, all these wide receivers were hurt.
I think Perdy kind of solidified that, like he's not
just a product of Kyle Shanahan. I think that last
year he answered those questions. That's why when you compare
the two, I think that Party gets the definite edge

(52:57):
over to A.

Speaker 1 (53:00):
I wasn't even considering Tua. What I feel like this
is because you deserve.

Speaker 2 (53:06):
To be bashed. You're the two guy. Now happened?

Speaker 1 (53:11):
I love to I don't have to tell you I
just think he's fantastic, Uh, Rich Riebar at Lord Reeves
on Twitter. Find your analysis at sharp footballanalysis dot com.
It is outstanding. Rich has two great stories up right now.
One his consistent positional tears, which are great especially relevant

(53:32):
for fantasy, but also a breakdown of some of the
trends we saw last year, specifically related to kick off
returns and how that impacted scoring. It was a very
high scoring year with a lot of records broken, and
how we might be able to glean something new for
this year from what happened last year. Rich, thanks for

(53:52):
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