Colin discusses Shedeur Sanders’ performance in his preseason debut against the Panthers and why Shedeur showed he’s always had the talent to perform in the NFL but questions about decision making and leadership is what gave teams pause
He gives his thoughts on Bears QB Caleb Williams not playing over the weekend
Colin takes a look at the Giants schedule and gives his thoughts on Jaxson Dart so far
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We finally got some football and the quarterbacks play Joe
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Burrow's plan over the course of the weekend. The tours
playing starters are playing. Matt Stafford didn't we knew that,
but Caleb Williams interesting, we did not play, and I
want to get to that. Okay, justin so one hour
from now, Colin Wright, Colin Rock. So what's interesting is
(01:05):
Mike Sando. We'll have him on tomorrow. His annual survey
came out this morning. So Mike Sandal has been doing
this for a year. It's kind of the bible of
what the league thinks. That it's quarterbacks he has fifty voters,
So he has six GMS, six assistant gms, six former gms,
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eight head coaches, five execs, nineteen assistant coaches. So this
is a wide array of opinions upstairs, below upstairs, people
who have played against quarterbacks, and so the tiers are
pretty predictable. I don't have any real squabbles. Your Tier
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one is mahomes Borough, Allen, Lamar, Jackson, Stafford. I agree
with that. Tier two is Daniels, Herbert Goff, c J. Stroud,
Jalen Hurts, Baker, Jack Jordan love brock Perty. I'd have
you know, Tier three they got bow knicks closer to
the middle than the top. I'd probably change that. But
here's what's interesting. Caleb Williams is bottom of tier three.
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But fifteen voters, about thirty percent of voters already knowing
what a mess the Bears were last year. That wasn't
Caleb's fault, the coaching staff. Fifteen voters have Caleb in
tier four. Tier four. I'm not even putting on the screen.
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It's old Russell Wilson, It's Daniel Jones, it's Spencer Rattler,
It's it's Joe Flacco. Thirty percent of the voters are, Yeah,
not gonna work. That's alarm me. Here's the other thing.
There were a couple of quotes from coaches, and I've
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said I'm rooting for Caleb. I'm now in Chicago a lot.
I want the football team to be good. Here's two
quotes from coaches. One of them a defensive coordinator who said,
in terms of processing ability and getting the ball out
of his hands, he was the worst quarterback we played against.
He holds the ball forever. A head coach in the
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NFL said his processing to me was alarming watching the
tape alarming. Also, before the game, a lot of quarterbacks played.
Joe Burrow, played Mahomes, played Ben Johnson. Because they had
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a scrimmage against Miami earlier in the week. Ben Johnson
decided not to play them at all yesterday. And here
was Ben Johnson's reasoning. There is no substitute for real
life bullets. I get that.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
But at the same time, when you can accumulate seventy
plus reps in a day, that's pretty good.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
That goes a long way in terms of where you
want to go.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
With the connection with the quarterback in his pass catchers.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Yeah, and a lot of other quarterbacks in those inner
squad games, whatever you want to call him. They had
sixty seventy stamps too. Bryce Young played, Joe Burrow played,
Mahomes played, Spencer Ratler played, everybody but Tom Brady played
this weekend and he did not. Caleb didn't. And I'm
a fan, but there is a certain weight to this
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quarterback situation. I said it when he got drafted by
Chicago and it has now been reported by me and
Seth Wickersham. This was not their first choice. This is
a big, loud, aggressive media. It is a poorly owned
franchise with a GM that got an extension based basically
on one big tray that got him DJ Moore and
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draft picks. So I don't know. I look at it
and I think to myself, was Ben Johnson actually could
I suggest this sort of protecting Caleb from the court
of public opinion that was kind of a standalone big
TV let Miami in two. I get all the speculation
in the heat, We're we're gonna let him, you know,
just let him sit and watch this thing. It's not
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like he couldn't use the snaps when tech companies delay
the release. Okay, it's usually because like you're still in
the beta stage, right, You're just not quite comfortable putting
it out to the public. And everybody in house knows it,
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but you're just let you know. We just we're just
gonna not release our product yet, says Apple. We just
want to tighten it. I mean the product is great,
it's gonna be revolutionary, but it's just not quite there.
I think there's some eggshells here. I think Caleb's not
quite where Ben Johnson wants him. That is okay, and
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I don't blame him for all of last year's sacks
and the mess. But everybody played this weekend, I mean,
starters played a lot. Let's talk, Shadeur. I love that
Nike's already got Nike's already got an ad out. Sam
Donald was almost MVP last year cause you get an
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AD for Sam Darnald. No, okay, right, so only a
matter of time, says the poster. So I want to
throw this at you. There is a video, and it's
not hostile of Shadeur Sanders after making a point after
his first preseason game of finding a locally very popular
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local guy, Tony Grosse. He's a talk show, he's a
very popular guy. I don't listen to a lot of
Cleveland radio, but I know who he is very very popular.
And again it's it's not it's not ugly. And I
do think Shadeur is a good kid. I question his
judgment and maturity, but they kind of laugh in the end.
It's fine. But this thing is like, Chadure, what are
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you doing? Get out of there. I don't want you
watching Tony grossy TikTok clips. And here's the thing I've
said about Shador and I've defended him. His size, his arm,
his mobility are all good enough to be a franchise quarterback.
And I think his accuracy I think it's really good.
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I think it's really good moving stay snary. I like
his accuracy. You're seeing there. These are pro athletes. He
moves around fine. And I think he's very that's a
very accurate throw. I think his traits they are and
the size of the mobility, I think they're all good
enough to be a mid tier NFL quarterback. I do
at Dak Prescott level.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
I do.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
I think he throws a better ball than Dak, but
he's not great at him. He's not Cam, he's not
big Ben he's not Josh Allen, he's not Mahomes, he's
not Stafford. So he's going to have to be better
in the other thirty to forty percent of quarterback play,
which is maturity focus iq EQ, film staff pre snap excellence.
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By the way, Tom Brady's traits doesn't move at all,
doesn't have a huge arm. Tom's the best ever at
the other stuff. Dak Prescott is a C plus in
the pocket throwing the ball down the field. Guy Dan
Molina's college coach, said that, but Dak is a plus
plus plus leadership IQEQ, at the podium, film study, pre
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Snapdk's great. So if you're not outstanding in the trait
stuff and I like Schaduer and he's not, I do
think his accuracy is an excellent trait. I'll argue. I'll
even argue with Greg Cosell. I think he throws a
really beautiful catchable ball. He's an easy thrower. But I
would like to say Herbert's this. Herbert just comes out
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in the ball's accurate. C J. Stroud. Ball comes out
on platform, off left, right, up back.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
C J.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
Stroud's accurate. Herbert's accurate. I think Shaduer and I also
think he moves much. He's not d on. Everybody says,
O whity guys, mom's athletic ability. Well, his mom must
be a good athlete because he moves well. And Shandur
had a good game. But my take is, and I'm
tired of Cleveland fan saying, Colin, you're making a lot
out of this little stuff. Oh right, yeah, yeah, yeah,
(09:10):
that's what you said about Johnny Manziel at Baker Mayfield
and Deshaun Watson's court stuff in Houston. How about you
set this one out rounds fan, You're all for three on.
It's no big deal. The speeding tickets. His own GM
called him dumb. This right here, Chandu or you're a
good kid, get out of there. Don't look for sympathy
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and support from local radio. Guy watch film and again,
it's not the end of the world. He is a
good kid, but the judgment thing for him is going
to have to be exceptional. He is not big Ben,
Josh Allen, Cam Steve Young Farp. That's not what he is.
And Brady knew it, and Peyton Manning knew it. Peyton
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Manning never threw a tight spiral. Peyton Manning didn't move well,
Peyton Manning had a good arm. It never rocket. So
when you're not, the trades aren't a Dak had so
much self awareness. I said this from the very beginning.
Dak was one of those strangely mature guys like twenty three.
Dak was twenty three going on thirty three. Jalen hurts,
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he's not real big and not a great pocket guy.
He's like twenty seven going on forty seven. So this
is where Shador has got to get that stuff tightened up.
Don't worry about what local media says, like, just stay
away from that stuff and Cleveland fan sit it out.
You've been telling me for years that stuff doesn't matter.
I've been right three out of three times. You got
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rid of Baker. I told you, get off television in
the commercials. Baker, just get the quarterback thing right. Forget
the commercials. He was good in the commercials. Here's Kevin
Stefanski on whether Chador is gonna get number one quarterback
reps this week.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
I'm really focused on all of our quarterbacks development and
every single one of these reps. We have a standard
for that position and really every position, but certainly the
quarterback position. There's a standard by which we play and
how we play and how we operate and how we
take care of the football and those type of things. So, uh,
there are things that Shadur can clean up. He will
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clean up.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
And I don't want to hear your anti Shadur. No,
I'm not. I thought he was underdrafted. I thought Jackson
Dart was overdrafted. He's more of a second round pick.
I think Shador was underdrafted. And when you watch him play,
he's very comfortable. He's a real six two to eighteen.
He's not a weight room junkie, but he's he's if
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you're six foot two, you're in the ninety six percentile
in this country. Anytime you see him standing around normal guys,
he's tall, he carries his weight well. He's not spindily
like Teddy Bridgewater or is Matt Ryan skinny or golf.
He's not top heavy like Will Levis. He looks like
a franchise quarterback six two two eighteen, easily accurate, moves well,
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he's not great at that stuff, but he's absolutely to
me a franchise quarterback with all that stuff. He didn't
have a weird delivery. He's not slinging it side arm.
He's a franchise quarterback, but he better be buttoned up
on the other stuff, because that's what's made Dak rich,
not the arm, not the traits. And I don't know.
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Traits are probably sixty percent of this stuff, sixty to
sixty five percent. But the other thirty five percent. If
I told you to be successful in life, sixty five
percent is you know, DNA, but thirty five percent is discipline. Well,
you better be disciplined. That's a big chunk of life,
all right, Jay mc colin, Wright, Colin wrong. This this
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quarterback tiers is is Sando's on the show tomorrow. I
love it for a million reasons. By and large, I
agree with most of it. I do think Bonnicks under
Tua Bonnicks is more with a better arm and never
been hurt. Feels a little wonkey, But that's probably the
NFL executives telling you how much they think of Sean Payton.
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They think Peyton has taken Bow to a level that
he's probably not by himself. It doesn't bother me. We'll
talk about more about this today and tomorrow. But the
other thing is, I know you're a Jets fan, not
a Giants fan. But the Jackson Dart thing is interesting.
Oh yeah, it's and he looked good. I can take
a wrong on that. I thought, look, you know again,
it's it's backups whatever. He's playing with him and he's
playing against him. But I want to address Jackson Dart
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and the Giants because there is something I'm tired of
hearing about quarterback. Well they're young. Well they you know,
they just got into the league. I don't want to
hear that with Jackson Dart. We'll talk about that next.
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Speaker 1 (14:17):
He's still moving, all right, Welcome back Top of the Hour,
Colin Wright, Colin Raw and Matt Hasselback too. So I
thought Jackson Dart looked good twelve to nineteen. I thought
he moved really well. And I think when you look
at the New York Giants schedule, with an easy schedule,
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maybe they could be a nine and eight team. I've
argued they're a quarterback away. I like the offensive coach.
I like the left tackle. They got a number one weapon.
I like their defensive line. I like the giant. I
think the Giants are a great example, like Indianapolis Colts.
If they had a great quarterback, they'd be a really
really good football team and a playoff team. Their schedules
brutal and they don't know who quarterback is. But watching
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Jackson Dart my takeaways. I know it's preseason, but everything
is something. Nothing's everything. He looked pretty good. Number one.
This is not a super Bowl team. This is about
discovering what Jackson Dart is. Because next year's quarterback class
out of college is great. It's really good, and we
know what Russell Wilson is Russell Wilson left Denver and
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they got better with a rookie quarterback and made the playoffs.
And Russell Wilson went to Pittsburgh and they weren't any
better than the Mason Rudolph Kenny Pickett team. I know
what Russell is, and if you promised him a start
in Week one against Washington, by all means, give it
to him. But we know what Russell is at this point,
like we know what it is. We don't know what
Jackson Dart is and so, and I don't want to
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hear this. Well, I mean, you don't want to put
him out there to be a pinata stop. The Giants
have a great left tackle and I think their own
line over the last two years they've upgraded it. Number
two they have a couple of really interesting young running backs.
Number three is they have a number one receiver. Number
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four is this isn't like the tone deaf offense of
the Pittsburgh Steelers. Brian Dable got Daniel Jones of the playoffs. Okay,
I don't want to hear if you If you like
Brian Dable, he got Daniel Jones of the playoffs. He
can coach So he got an offensive coach, a great
left tackle, a number one weapon, running backs are interesting.
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Online is not a disaster. He's not going to take
a beating. Plus the kid to move. And here's the
other thing. He got forty one college starts with Lane
Kiffen in the best defensive conference in college football, the
one Jayden Daniels came from. And Lane Kiffen has coached
in the NFL and could absolutely be a head coach
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in the NFL again if he wanted to. Lane is
a really good offensive coach. If you get forty one
starts in the best defensive conference with NFL receivers, and
you play with NFL guys and against the NFL guys,
you're ready to play in college. This is not Anthony Richardson,
who we don't even know if I mean, he wasn't
even a great college quarterback. Jackson Dart was a very
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good college quarterback. I thought a second round guy, top third, middle, second,
but whatever. I certainly could be wrong, been wrong before.
But my take was watching him, I was like, and well,
he played against backups. He also played with backups. Watching them,
my take is Blaine three years sec. He plays with
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a ton He's like Shadour. He plays with a ton
of confidence. He was very comfortable. Chador was very comfortable.
Zach Wilson looked nervous the first two years in the NFL.
He looked frenetic. He looked Sam Darnold in New York
look nervous. Shodar looks comfortable. Jackson's ready to go. Jackson's
ready to play. Here's Brian Dable after a boy what
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I thought he would do?
Speaker 4 (17:52):
Efficient, effective, aggressive, confident in the pocket.
Speaker 6 (17:58):
Some stuff we can work on, but he's doing good.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
I want to see him in home games, road games,
division games, bad weather games, trailing leading. I want to
see him leading late. Does he know how to manipulate
the clock? Does he know how to pick up first downs?
You can't do that in four starts, you can't do
it in six. I want ten to twelve starts from
Jackson Dart because the Giants may have found their quarterback.
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But even if they haven't, you gotta know going into January,
because that was very promising. And I'll argue all day long,
don't tell me the Giants are a mile away offensive coach,
left tackle weapon, good defensive line, and interesting running backs.
They're not a mile away. They're not there yet, but
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they are not a They're not Philadelphia or Baltimore. There's
talent here and an offensive coach with a history Josh
Allen just one and Daniels another of getting the most
out of a young quarterback. Jmack with the news. Now
this is the herd line news.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
Start with the Pittsburgh Steelers, Colin. They got a nice
win over the Jags over the weekend, but Aaron Rodgers
did not take a snap. Mike Tomlin talked to reporters,
and you know it starts to get into the holes.
Speaker 6 (19:16):
Should the quarterback play in the preseason or not?
Speaker 3 (19:18):
Tomlin responded, you might be looking at one of them
in twenty twenty five, adding that rogers cumulative snap total
and what's required for him to be ready is different
than others. Sounds to me like Rogers will not be
taking any snaps in the preseason, Colin. If you look
at his history, he took eight preseason snaps with the
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Jets in twenty twenty three.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
So I here, let me defend Aaron kirk Cousins and
Aaron Rodgers. I don't want to see him in the preseason. Okay,
when you're older. This is not for her. This is
not Mahomes Tua. When you're older and have had an
injury in the last couple of years, I'm not interested
in that at all. I will defend Aaron and Kirk
since those are about the only two guys in the league.
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To me that shouldn't take any snaps. I probably wouldn't
give Mahomes a lot or Burrow a lot, but I
think when with Aaron's physical limitations. By the way, if
you're gonna put Aaron on the field, let's just have
one rule. It's got to be the first team A line. Okay,
it's got to be the first team all line. If
you're not going to play Fraser, the center from West Virginia,
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if you're not playing your starters, I don't want to
Aron out there. At this point. He and Kirk should
not be playing with backup all line.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
So what about the concern that Rogers is on a
new team with a new offensive coinator, new wide receivers,
new O line.
Speaker 6 (20:38):
There's a lot of newness there for an old dog.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
He's smart enough to yeah, oh yeah, I will say
this this idea that this is calculus. I will always
defend a new quarterback in a situate like like a
young quarterback like Jackson Dart, he should have the quarterback.
He should have the playbook memorize today. Now, does he
know how to read a defense at the NFL consistently? No?
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Will he be fooled by good defensive coaches? Yes, you
gotta know your Aaron Rodgers is one of the smarter
guys in the league at the position. If you can't
get the playbook down and about, and I'm being nicer
six weeks, don't give me that nonsense, Anthony Richardson. I
don't care who it is. He may not be able
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to read a defense. He may struggle with blitz packages.
I get that. Mahomes acknowledged year three. The light went on.
I don't expect Jackson Dart to pick up every package
like Jackson Dart, if he plays, he'll have bad series.
Jayden Daniels is an outlier, but you got to be
able to Let's not make this into oh. I mean,
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if learning a playbook is so hard, then how can
Creed Humphrey, a center out of Oklahoma, get drafted play
Week one for the Chiefs and be flawless on the
offensive line when he not only has to know the play,
but he has the audibles for the old line as
a rookie center. If a center can do it, a
quarterback can do it.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
The football stuff is weird with like tackling like Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 6 (22:09):
Essentially, he's gonna suit up for.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
Week one having not touched a football in a real,
live game.
Speaker 6 (22:15):
In like nine months.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
Colin, you know, I like play basketball all the time.
I cannot imagine like an NBA player going nine months
without playing basketball. Like these guys are playing in summer
leagues and pro ams. Luca's playing internationally. Aaron Rodgers hasn't
seen real football since his last game with the Jets,
and I have real concerns for him. He looked slow
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out there. I'm sure you've seen the videos. No, no, no,
and you can't simulate that speed.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
Man, I'm a little wit. It looks slow. He is slow. Yeah, again,
just watching Shadu or who everybody tells me is not athletic.
Shadur moves really well. Shadoor is fight, He's not Lamar.
But Jackson Dart moved really well this week and I
watched all their snap So Aaron's old. Let's just be honest.
About it. He's just a little older and I don't
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want him near the field with backup O linemen. Not
interested in that at all.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
All.
Speaker 6 (23:11):
Right, let's go to the New England Patriots.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
They got a win over the Commanders in their season opener.
Drake May played sparingly one drive and three or five
twelve yards, did have a fumble, and Mike Raebel had
an interesting comment afterward talking about May's leadership.
Speaker 6 (23:30):
I'm not just going to say or lack thereof, but
just take a listen.
Speaker 4 (23:35):
The expectations that he's the league's football team. That's what
the job of the head coach and a quarterback is.
That's pretty much how this thing goes. And that can't
take days off. I mean, sometimes the performance isn't going
to be extraordinary, like the leadership and the demeanor has
to be. I think he's learning that. I love the
fact that he's willing to learn.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
And push and try to do those things.
Speaker 4 (23:56):
To where he's demanding of everybody and making sure that
everybody's on the same page.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
I don't that's just a that's nothing nothing, but that's nothing. Yeah,
I mean it's just local radio question. Fill in the space.
It's not he can't.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
He used the word demeanor, and he's got to be demanding.
Speaker 6 (24:15):
Maybe it's hard.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
Why it is very hard to walk into a locker
room at twenty four years old and tell thirty four
year old players what to do. As I've said about
rookie and second year quarterbacks, it's almost unfair. But tough
quarterback is not receiver, Mike linebacker. You have to come
in and bark, and you have to come in and lead,
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and if you can't do that, don't play the position.
That's why I don't find me a silly quarterback who's
an all time great. I'm not interested. John Elway was
barking at Dan Reeves's coach. That's what I need, NBA.
I don't just show me your talent, score and defend quarterback.
It's unfair. I had this conversation with a in. John
(25:01):
Middlecoffin and I were talking about this. Surgeons, I need
you to be uniquely mature at twenty seven years old,
No senior froggy, he's night before surgery. I need you
to be home sleeping pilots. I'm not interested in you
hang with the bros like you have to be rested
for your flight. Quarterbacks are same. The only thing in
sports I need you to be ready to go at
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twenty four. You don't get to go out and party
with your boys. If you do, like Manziel, you're out
of the leak. I got no time for it. San
Drake May is doing that. But what Frable's saying is
Tom could go out and knock down a beer after
they want to get Tom Brady did not drink in
the regular season, not a beer. That's if you want
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to knock him down. Maybe in a bye week you
go to Cancun. That's fine, but it just this is
what's needed for the position.
Speaker 5 (25:52):
Abe.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
We institute that here on the show. No drinking policy
during the season. We got to lock in for gambling.
It's possible. Final story, Colin is Matt you Stafford, He's
got that back issue.
Speaker 6 (26:03):
However, Sean McVeigh.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
Expects him back at practice today and he talked about
Stafford's throwing session on Saturday.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
It was awesome. He looked good. He threw the ball
really well.
Speaker 7 (26:14):
There was no limitations in terms of the types of
throws deep, intermediate, short, We were moving the launch point
and you know, he felt really good and so looking
forward to progressing him back into practice on Monday, but
it was a good step in the right direction.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
By the way, it just came over that Jordan or
Sarah bar shop Or is reporting that Stafford's in street
clothes and didn't appear to be practicing. So I'm going
to give you my Kirk cousin, Aaron Rodgers Matt Stafford comp.
I don't want Matt Stafford in the preseason with backup
offensive lineman Stafford Cousins Aaron, I don't want him out there. Frankly,
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Joe Flacco, i'd give a pass to because he's so big.
He's such a physical outlier. He could take a couple
of hits. Quarterbacks who are older, been around the block,
don't need the snaps. Burrow is only doing it because
Cincinnati has been so disappointing in September, so like Zach
Taylor's trying to figure out a way to be better
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in September in that division. Otherwise, I wouldn't play Burrow
because of his injuries. But I do think with Burrow,
it's like there's this riddle, like why are they so
bad in September? Like I don't get it, so that
I get Mahomes fights for snaps. I've heard Mahomes wants
more than Andy Gibbs and Andy will play starters. He
doesn't care. So Jmack with the News, Well that's the news,
(27:36):
and thanks for stopping by the herd Line News. You know,
it's really interesting. So what the NFL is doing now.
They have these practices, like you know, the Rams and
the Cowboys will have a practice and then they'll have
a game and it's funny. Andy Reid will not do
that ever, So Andy Reid's theory is he's old school.
(27:58):
You're not going to steal any and I don't want
you to look at my personnel. You could see one
of our fifth round draft picks and you go back
home and you start. You know, Andy Reid does not
want any of those. Kyle Shanahan will do a singular
practice with another team, but not too because his feeling
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is if you have a practice and you win the practice,
then the other team this is when fights happen, get
marked at by their coaches and they come back the
next day at practice and they're just banging on your guys.
So one of my few knocks on the NFL is
I don't like preseason. I don't like it, and I
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don't think I need a lot of inner squad practices
or whatever you want to call these things. Joint practicem sorry,
joint practices. I don't like joint practices. You can do
a few of them. I don't like preseason games. And
my reason is when Texas and Oklahoma, Texas and Ohio
State play on Fox here in a couple weeks, Texas
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isn't having joint practices with the Aggies, the buck Eyes
aren't having them with the Wolverines. And these are nineteen
year old kids and they'll look like they're ready to play.
Remember Ohio State played Oregon last year early in the season.
How many joint practices, I mean, how many they don't
do it. So if college guys don't need a preseason
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and are limited by the NCAA in practice hours and
with the NIL and the transfer portal, these college teams
have thirty new players and they don't need it. So
I think Rashaun Slater getting hurt now I know what
it was at a practice, and sometimes it's just bad luck.
But I don't think joint practices I would do maybe one.
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I would not do it with the team in my Division.
I would not. In fact, I probably would make sure
the team's not on my schedule for the next couple
of years. You know, I'm not a conspiracy to rist,
but if Andy Reid says not doing it, I'm kind
of on Andy's side on this, But I'm not a
I'm I think you are paid in football to figure
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out how good a guy is without game stuff. Mean
Ohio State. Right now, Ryan Day is going to have
to make a decision on who's the starter. No preseason
and no joint practices. You're paid to figure it out, right, right,
I don't get a pre show before the show, like
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Speaker 3 (31:14):
Sunday, the NFL is back on Fox and we're kicking
it off with raining MVP Josh Allen and the Bills
taking on Caleb Williams and the Bears. Preseason football Sunday,
eight eastern on Fox.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
Okay, time out. That will be the highest retted preseason
game of the preseason. I'll make I'll make a bet
right now. And that's not because of Josh Allen. Aren't
you intrigued by that stuff?
Speaker 3 (31:39):
Listen, Josh Allen, There's no way Josh Allen's taking a
snap in that game.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
He doesn't need to. But with Kayleb Williams, well.
Speaker 6 (31:44):
They're gonna get after Caleb Williams. That's you know.
Speaker 3 (31:46):
Mc McDermott's not going to go in there like, oh,
let's play patty Cake.
Speaker 6 (31:50):
They're going after Caleb.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
Yeah. By the way, you had a note on Shador Sanders.
Speaker 3 (31:54):
Did you see where that video came from of Schdure
talking to the reporter? No, hey, yeah, it was actually
Shadour's brother, Deon Sanders Junior, was filming it. And I'm
just wondering, Colin, was this scripted, Hey, after you play well, let's.
Speaker 6 (32:14):
Go talk to that reporter.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
Get it.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
It's going to go viral. It went viral and it
also pumped up kept it in the family. This isn't
some like random person got the video. It was Deon
Sanders junior of well Off Media. You can read about
that online.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
I don't love that. I don't that's worse than it
being some rando like guys concentrating the stuff that matters
that don't remember when I was critical to Baker get
off television commercials. Stop posing with tigers like figure the
quarterback position out and all the Brown fans. You're making
a big deal. It creates this focus on the stuff
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that matter.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
Said, we're in an interesting era right now, Colin where
people want to settle scores. Okay, that's a big thing
among politicians right now, and this, to me feels like
her going after somebody.
Speaker 6 (33:01):
He's had a rough five months dating back to the draft.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
And the lead. He was gonna be a top five pick.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
Daniel Jeremiah had him top twenty on his board, and
the guy falls through the fifth round. Everybody's blasting him.
He gets the speeding tickets, and now he's getting he's
like a pinata in Cleveland.
Speaker 6 (33:15):
Is he going to make the roster? Fourth string?
Speaker 1 (33:17):
He plays?
Speaker 6 (33:18):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (33:18):
I mean he was. He was not great.
Speaker 6 (33:19):
He was good, right, Oh?
Speaker 1 (33:20):
I think no.
Speaker 6 (33:21):
The first thing he does a settle a score with
a reporter.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
Everybody kept telling me he's not athletic enough, and I
kept saying, yes he is. He had two times when
he moved. I mean, and watch him. When he moves,
he throws a really that's a perfect pass. That's a
really good pass against.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
Well.
Speaker 1 (33:43):
I think his accuracy is franchise quarterback accuracy. I think
his movement is he is not a stationary target. I'll
argue this all Now. Does he run backwards too much? Yeah?
Caleb does it? Wagh too much? Caleb? Can you know
Josh did this early? You gotta get that. Caleb is
not athletic enough to do that. I don't think he
(34:03):
did it too much in college. But in college had
a horrible old line Cleveland's O linees Okay. I don't
know where PFF franks to me, it's always been okay,
But I I thought all of his college traits transferred.
I'll give you an example. When Johnny Manzel, everybody told
me how athletic he was. Everybody told me how athletic
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Tebow was, and you saw immediately that Tebow was closer
to a tight end than he was a gifted athletic quarterback.
And you saw. I remember the first Johnny Manzel game,
he got outrun by a defensive end and I'm like, no, no, no, no.
Part of Tbau and Manzell's primary strength was whow these
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guys get out there and move. Shaudor does not move
noticeably worse than Tbau, who I was told was a
great athlete, should do or. But Shaudr's strength isn't the
chador sits in the pocket and throws darts. I mean,
look at this throw. That's like, it's a really good throw.
That is an excellent here in the pocket with heat.
(35:09):
That is a really big time throw. He is in
the end zone. You got a man coming at you,
a pro. Look at this. That is athletic. I want
to hear that he doesn't have NFL traits. I don't
want to hear that he's a fifth round quarterback. He
was underdrafted.
Speaker 3 (35:22):
Yeah, now this is the Panthers, okay, and these are
backups and third stringers.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
But backup.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
It's a nitpick, just a little, okay.
Speaker 6 (35:30):
I know the two touchdowns.
Speaker 3 (35:31):
You know, their two scoring drives were like ten yard
drive and a forty three yard drive. Okay, so let's
not go. He's not going eighty yards. The drives were
short and sweet. There's a lot of punting, I get it. Overall,
I would say this was a promising debut for Shador,
and I do think it's a real competition now between
him and Dylan Gabriel. I also thought I'm Joe Flacco
starting week one. I just don't believe that.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
I'm sorry, all right, Tyson Beagent the backup for the Bears.
He had like a sixteen play drive. It was pretty good. Yea.
And again I always hear this, Well he's doing it
against backups. He's playing with backups. Also true, Okay, so
it's all relative here. So this is interesting. Mike Sando
(36:12):
the athletic comes out. He'll be on tomorrow. I love this.
I'm obsessed with his quarterback tiers. It's like one of
those gifts. I don't know what day comes out today,
I'm driving it and I'm like Misleby Christmas. I mean,
like I don't even have to talk about it today,
but I led with it, so he has. This is
where NFL executives and I totally agree. In their tiers
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four tiers they have Jalen Hurt's ninth tenth best quarterback
and fans view quarterbacks through the lens of hey they
win well. Trend Dilfer and Nick Foles have Super Bowl
rings and Dan Reno doesn't. Matt Hasselbeck doesn't. Matt Hasselbeck
is better than Nick Foles by a lot, and Trent Dilfer.
(36:55):
So gms are asked to contextualize it. And if it
was just about when for a quarterback, then how did
Patrick Mahomes get drafted in the first round? And how
did Josh Allen? I watched Josh Allen play two good
teams in college Iowa, Oregon. He got crushed by bo
fans view quarterback. It's all about winning. You have as
(37:15):
a you're asked, I mean, a great stockbroker tells you
to buy a stock before it's one hundred and forty bucks.
He tells you to buy it when it's thirteen. Anybody
can buy a stock. Anybody can buy Navidia now for
the next ten years, or Amazon, and say, eh, I
know my stuff. Would you buy at NAVIDI at nine
twenty six, seven years ago. So Matt Stafford played in
(37:40):
the NFL for twelve years and did not win a
playoff game. He's a Tier one quarterback and he was
Sean mcvay's number one target. So this is not a
knock on Jalen Hurts. He's not as tall as you'd like.
He's about the same size or shorter than brock Purty.
And brock Purty last week a podcast and said forty
(38:01):
percent of the time I can't see who I'm throwing to.
Tua has said publicly, yeah, a lot of times I
let go of the ball. I can't see the receiver.
So and the other thing is, and this is just
so obvious. The Eagles had a bye week. Remember when
Tom Brady went to Bruce Arians. They were seven and
five and they had a bye week. You can break
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down your offense in that bye week and kind of
make a major. It's hard to get off the treadmill
week to week to week, but when you get that
bye week and you get three or four extra practices,
Tom Brady goes to Bruce Arians and says, we're going
to change up the offense. Last year in the bye week,
the people who know him best said, you know, we'd
(38:42):
be better off throwing less. That's a tell. So some
quarterbacks in this league are Taylor Swift. They're leading the
entire tour. Most quarterbacks in this league are the Spice Girls.
They're part of an ensemble. Jalen is part of an ensemble.
Of the fifty voters fifty in the Mike Sando survey
(39:10):
of the fifty three had Jalen Hurds is the tier
one quarterback. Okay, it'd be different if it was like
twenty three, and then we could argue. But he was
much closer to seventh rounder Brock Purty than Mahomes Burrough
and Josh Allen or Lamar. And that's exactly right. Best
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a line in football, two great receivers, best running back
in football, an offensive organization, always above average tight ends,
and two easy wins every year with the Giants, and
relatively easy wins over the Cowboys. So, for the record,
I've always said this, the difference between the truly great
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like Mahlmes and the good Baker may darnold what happens
when you ask him to carry the team. So Patrick Mahomes.
When he throws over forty times in his career, that
means the Chiefs are either behind or the run game's
not working. Mahlmes is thirty nine and eleven. When Jalen
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hurts with a great o' line is asked to throw
forty times or more, he's own five. He's never won
an NFL game. Okay, those are also very similar to
Dak Prescott's numbers. When Dak Dak went thirteen and three,
when he had the best O line and he had
that great rookie running back remember out of Ohio State
(40:38):
Ezekiel Elliott and Zach's throwing twenty seven times. Dak was
thirteen and three, and then all of a sudden, you
know Zeke ages. They don't have a number one before
a Marii Cooper and it's like, yeah, Dak's not as
good when you ask him to throw forty two times.
It's a different quarterback. So it's not a criticism. Again,
(41:00):
very few Taylor swifts a lot of spice girls. You're
just part of an ensemble. You need protection. For the record,
last year Niners beat up at left tackle. Christian McCaffrey
didn't play. I think perty was one in six with
Kyle Shanahan one in six against playoff teams. Brock, when
he has the ensemble healthy, can be a very effective quarterback.
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Smart moves, all that jazz hour two on a Monday.
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We finally got some football and the quarterbacks play Joe
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Burrow's plan over the course of the weekend. The tours
playing starters are playing. Matt Stafford didn't we knew that,
but Caleb Williams interesting, we did not play, and I
want to get to that. Okay, justin so one hour
from now, Colin Wright, Colin Rock. So what's interesting is
(01:05):
Mike Sando. We'll have him on tomorrow. His annual survey
came out this morning. So Mike Sandal has been doing
this for a year. It's kind of the bible of
what the league thinks. That it's quarterbacks he has fifty voters,
So he has six GMS, six assistant gms, six former gms,
(01:25):
eight head coaches, five execs, nineteen assistant coaches. So this
is a wide array of opinions upstairs, below upstairs, people
who have played against quarterbacks, and so the tiers are
pretty predictable. I don't have any real squabbles. Your Tier
(01:45):
one is mahomes Borough, Allen, Lamar, Jackson, Stafford. I agree
with that. Tier two is Daniels, Herbert Goff, c J. Stroud,
Jalen Hurts, Baker, Jack Jordan love brock Perty. I'd have
you know, Tier three they got bow knicks closer to
the middle than the top. I'd probably change that. But
here's what's interesting. Caleb Williams is bottom of tier three.
(02:09):
But fifteen voters, about thirty percent of voters already knowing
what a mess the Bears were last year. That wasn't
Caleb's fault, the coaching staff. Fifteen voters have Caleb in
tier four. Tier four. I'm not even putting on the screen.
(02:29):
It's old Russell Wilson, It's Daniel Jones, it's Spencer Rattler,
It's it's Joe Flacco. Thirty percent of the voters are, Yeah,
not gonna work. That's alarm me. Here's the other thing.
There were a couple of quotes from coaches, and I've
(02:50):
said I'm rooting for Caleb. I'm now in Chicago a lot.
I want the football team to be good. Here's two
quotes from coaches. One of them a defensive coordinator who said,
in terms of processing ability and getting the ball out
of his hands, he was the worst quarterback we played against.
He holds the ball forever. A head coach in the
(03:14):
NFL said his processing to me was alarming watching the
tape alarming. Also, before the game, a lot of quarterbacks played.
Joe Burrow, played Mahomes, played Ben Johnson. Because they had
(03:34):
a scrimmage against Miami earlier in the week. Ben Johnson
decided not to play them at all yesterday. And here
was Ben Johnson's reasoning. There is no substitute for real
life bullets. I get that.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
But at the same time, when you can accumulate seventy
plus reps in a day, that's pretty good.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
That goes a long way in terms of where you
want to go.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
With the connection with the quarterback in his pass catchers.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Yeah, and a lot of other quarterbacks in those inner
squad games, whatever you want to call him. They had
sixty seventy stamps too. Bryce Young played, Joe Burrow played,
Mahomes played, Spencer Ratler played, everybody but Tom Brady played
this weekend and he did not. Caleb didn't. And I'm
a fan, but there is a certain weight to this
(04:26):
quarterback situation. I said it when he got drafted by
Chicago and it has now been reported by me and
Seth Wickersham. This was not their first choice. This is
a big, loud, aggressive media. It is a poorly owned
franchise with a GM that got an extension based basically
on one big tray that got him DJ Moore and
(04:47):
draft picks. So I don't know. I look at it
and I think to myself, was Ben Johnson actually could
I suggest this sort of protecting Caleb from the court
of public opinion that was kind of a standalone big
TV let Miami in two. I get all the speculation
in the heat, We're we're gonna let him, you know,
just let him sit and watch this thing. It's not
(05:10):
like he couldn't use the snaps when tech companies delay
the release. Okay, it's usually because like you're still in
the beta stage, right, You're just not quite comfortable putting
it out to the public. And everybody in house knows it,
(05:30):
but you're just let you know. We just we're just
gonna not release our product yet, says Apple. We just
want to tighten it. I mean the product is great,
it's gonna be revolutionary, but it's just not quite there.
I think there's some eggshells here. I think Caleb's not
quite where Ben Johnson wants him. That is okay, and
(05:52):
I don't blame him for all of last year's sacks
and the mess. But everybody played this weekend, I mean,
starters played a lot. Let's talk, Shadeur. I love that
Nike's already got Nike's already got an ad out. Sam
Donald was almost MVP last year cause you get an
(06:15):
AD for Sam Darnald. No, okay, right, so only a
matter of time, says the poster. So I want to
throw this at you. There is a video, and it's
not hostile of Shadeur Sanders after making a point after
his first preseason game of finding a locally very popular
(06:36):
local guy, Tony Grosse. He's a talk show, he's a
very popular guy. I don't listen to a lot of
Cleveland radio, but I know who he is very very popular.
And again it's it's not it's not ugly. And I
do think Shadeur is a good kid. I question his
judgment and maturity, but they kind of laugh in the end.
It's fine. But this thing is like, Chadure, what are
(06:58):
you doing? Get out of there. I don't want you
watching Tony grossy TikTok clips. And here's the thing I've
said about Shador and I've defended him. His size, his arm,
his mobility are all good enough to be a franchise quarterback.
And I think his accuracy I think it's really good.
(07:18):
I think it's really good moving stay snary. I like
his accuracy. You're seeing there. These are pro athletes. He
moves around fine. And I think he's very that's a
very accurate throw. I think his traits they are and
the size of the mobility, I think they're all good
enough to be a mid tier NFL quarterback. I do
at Dak Prescott level.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
I do.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
I think he throws a better ball than Dak, but
he's not great at him. He's not Cam, he's not
big Ben he's not Josh Allen, he's not Mahomes, he's
not Stafford. So he's going to have to be better
in the other thirty to forty percent of quarterback play,
which is maturity focus iq EQ, film staff pre snap excellence.
(08:01):
By the way, Tom Brady's traits doesn't move at all,
doesn't have a huge arm. Tom's the best ever at
the other stuff. Dak Prescott is a C plus in
the pocket throwing the ball down the field. Guy Dan
Molina's college coach, said that, but Dak is a plus
plus plus leadership IQEQ, at the podium, film study, pre
(08:24):
Snapdk's great. So if you're not outstanding in the trait
stuff and I like Schaduer and he's not, I do
think his accuracy is an excellent trait. I'll argue. I'll
even argue with Greg Cosell. I think he throws a
really beautiful catchable ball. He's an easy thrower. But I
would like to say Herbert's this. Herbert just comes out
(08:44):
in the ball's accurate. C J. Stroud. Ball comes out
on platform, off left, right, up back.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
C J.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
Stroud's accurate. Herbert's accurate. I think Shaduer and I also
think he moves much. He's not d on. Everybody says,
O whity guys, mom's athletic ability. Well, his mom must
be a good athlete because he moves well. And Shandur
had a good game. But my take is, and I'm
tired of Cleveland fan saying, Colin, you're making a lot
out of this little stuff. Oh right, yeah, yeah, yeah,
(09:10):
that's what you said about Johnny Manziel at Baker Mayfield
and Deshaun Watson's court stuff in Houston. How about you
set this one out rounds fan, You're all for three on.
It's no big deal. The speeding tickets. His own GM
called him dumb. This right here, Chandu or you're a
good kid, get out of there. Don't look for sympathy
(09:32):
and support from local radio. Guy watch film and again,
it's not the end of the world. He is a
good kid, but the judgment thing for him is going
to have to be exceptional. He is not big Ben,
Josh Allen, Cam Steve Young Farp. That's not what he is.
And Brady knew it, and Peyton Manning knew it. Peyton
(09:54):
Manning never threw a tight spiral. Peyton Manning didn't move well,
Peyton Manning had a good arm. It never rocket. So
when you're not, the trades aren't a Dak had so
much self awareness. I said this from the very beginning.
Dak was one of those strangely mature guys like twenty three.
Dak was twenty three going on thirty three. Jalen hurts,
(10:16):
he's not real big and not a great pocket guy.
He's like twenty seven going on forty seven. So this
is where Shador has got to get that stuff tightened up.
Don't worry about what local media says, like, just stay
away from that stuff and Cleveland fan sit it out.
You've been telling me for years that stuff doesn't matter.
I've been right three out of three times. You got
(10:38):
rid of Baker. I told you, get off television in
the commercials. Baker, just get the quarterback thing right. Forget
the commercials. He was good in the commercials. Here's Kevin
Stefanski on whether Chador is gonna get number one quarterback
reps this week.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
I'm really focused on all of our quarterbacks development and
every single one of these reps. We have a standard
for that position and really every position, but certainly the
quarterback position. There's a standard by which we play and
how we play and how we operate and how we
take care of the football and those type of things. So, uh,
there are things that Shadur can clean up. He will
(11:17):
clean up.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
And I don't want to hear your anti Shadur. No,
I'm not. I thought he was underdrafted. I thought Jackson
Dart was overdrafted. He's more of a second round pick.
I think Shador was underdrafted. And when you watch him play,
he's very comfortable. He's a real six two to eighteen.
He's not a weight room junkie, but he's he's if
(11:39):
you're six foot two, you're in the ninety six percentile
in this country. Anytime you see him standing around normal guys,
he's tall, he carries his weight well. He's not spindily
like Teddy Bridgewater or is Matt Ryan skinny or golf.
He's not top heavy like Will Levis. He looks like
a franchise quarterback six two two eighteen, easily accurate, moves well,
(12:01):
he's not great at that stuff, but he's absolutely to
me a franchise quarterback with all that stuff. He didn't
have a weird delivery. He's not slinging it side arm.
He's a franchise quarterback, but he better be buttoned up
on the other stuff, because that's what's made Dak rich,
not the arm, not the traits. And I don't know.
(12:22):
Traits are probably sixty percent of this stuff, sixty to
sixty five percent. But the other thirty five percent. If
I told you to be successful in life, sixty five
percent is you know, DNA, but thirty five percent is discipline. Well,
you better be disciplined. That's a big chunk of life,
all right, Jay mc colin, Wright, Colin wrong. This this
(12:44):
quarterback tiers is is Sando's on the show tomorrow. I
love it for a million reasons. By and large, I
agree with most of it. I do think Bonnicks under
Tua Bonnicks is more with a better arm and never
been hurt. Feels a little wonkey, But that's probably the
NFL executives telling you how much they think of Sean Payton.
(13:07):
They think Peyton has taken Bow to a level that
he's probably not by himself. It doesn't bother me. We'll
talk about more about this today and tomorrow. But the
other thing is, I know you're a Jets fan, not
a Giants fan. But the Jackson Dart thing is interesting.
Oh yeah, it's and he looked good. I can take
a wrong on that. I thought, look, you know again,
it's it's backups whatever. He's playing with him and he's
playing against him. But I want to address Jackson Dart
(13:29):
and the Giants because there is something I'm tired of
hearing about quarterback. Well they're young. Well they you know,
they just got into the league. I don't want to
hear that with Jackson Dart. We'll talk about that next.
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Speaker 1 (14:17):
He's still moving, all right, Welcome back Top of the Hour,
Colin Wright, Colin Raw and Matt Hasselback too. So I
thought Jackson Dart looked good twelve to nineteen. I thought
he moved really well. And I think when you look
at the New York Giants schedule, with an easy schedule,
(14:37):
maybe they could be a nine and eight team. I've
argued they're a quarterback away. I like the offensive coach.
I like the left tackle. They got a number one weapon.
I like their defensive line. I like the giant. I
think the Giants are a great example, like Indianapolis Colts.
If they had a great quarterback, they'd be a really
really good football team and a playoff team. Their schedules
brutal and they don't know who quarterback is. But watching
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Jackson Dart my takeaways. I know it's preseason, but everything
is something. Nothing's everything. He looked pretty good. Number one.
This is not a super Bowl team. This is about
discovering what Jackson Dart is. Because next year's quarterback class
out of college is great. It's really good, and we
know what Russell Wilson is Russell Wilson left Denver and
(15:19):
they got better with a rookie quarterback and made the playoffs.
And Russell Wilson went to Pittsburgh and they weren't any
better than the Mason Rudolph Kenny Pickett team. I know
what Russell is, and if you promised him a start
in Week one against Washington, by all means, give it
to him. But we know what Russell is at this point,
like we know what it is. We don't know what
Jackson Dart is and so, and I don't want to
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hear this. Well, I mean, you don't want to put
him out there to be a pinata stop. The Giants
have a great left tackle and I think their own
line over the last two years they've upgraded it. Number
two they have a couple of really interesting young running backs.
Number three is they have a number one receiver. Number
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four is this isn't like the tone deaf offense of
the Pittsburgh Steelers. Brian Dable got Daniel Jones of the playoffs. Okay,
I don't want to hear if you If you like
Brian Dable, he got Daniel Jones of the playoffs. He
can coach So he got an offensive coach, a great
left tackle, a number one weapon, running backs are interesting.
(16:25):
Online is not a disaster. He's not going to take
a beating. Plus the kid to move. And here's the
other thing. He got forty one college starts with Lane
Kiffen in the best defensive conference in college football, the
one Jayden Daniels came from. And Lane Kiffen has coached
in the NFL and could absolutely be a head coach
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in the NFL again if he wanted to. Lane is
a really good offensive coach. If you get forty one
starts in the best defensive conference with NFL receivers, and
you play with NFL guys and against the NFL guys,
you're ready to play in college. This is not Anthony Richardson,
who we don't even know if I mean, he wasn't
even a great college quarterback. Jackson Dart was a very
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good college quarterback. I thought a second round guy, top third, middle, second,
but whatever. I certainly could be wrong, been wrong before.
But my take was watching him, I was like, and well,
he played against backups. He also played with backups. Watching them,
my take is Blaine three years sec. He plays with
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a ton He's like Shadour. He plays with a ton
of confidence. He was very comfortable. Chador was very comfortable.
Zach Wilson looked nervous the first two years in the NFL.
He looked frenetic. He looked Sam Darnold in New York
look nervous. Shodar looks comfortable. Jackson's ready to go. Jackson's
ready to play. Here's Brian Dable after a boy what
(17:51):
I thought he would do?
Speaker 4 (17:52):
Efficient, effective, aggressive, confident in the pocket.
Speaker 6 (17:58):
Some stuff we can work on, but he's doing good.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
I want to see him in home games, road games,
division games, bad weather games, trailing leading. I want to
see him leading late. Does he know how to manipulate
the clock? Does he know how to pick up first downs?
You can't do that in four starts, you can't do
it in six. I want ten to twelve starts from
Jackson Dart because the Giants may have found their quarterback.
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But even if they haven't, you gotta know going into January,
because that was very promising. And I'll argue all day long,
don't tell me the Giants are a mile away offensive coach,
left tackle weapon, good defensive line, and interesting running backs.
They're not a mile away. They're not there yet, but
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they are not a They're not Philadelphia or Baltimore. There's
talent here and an offensive coach with a history Josh
Allen just one and Daniels another of getting the most
out of a young quarterback. Jmack with the news. Now
this is the herd line news.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
Start with the Pittsburgh Steelers, Colin. They got a nice
win over the Jags over the weekend, but Aaron Rodgers
did not take a snap. Mike Tomlin talked to reporters,
and you know it starts to get into the holes.
Speaker 6 (19:16):
Should the quarterback play in the preseason or not?
Speaker 3 (19:18):
Tomlin responded, you might be looking at one of them
in twenty twenty five, adding that rogers cumulative snap total
and what's required for him to be ready is different
than others. Sounds to me like Rogers will not be
taking any snaps in the preseason, Colin. If you look
at his history, he took eight preseason snaps with the
(19:38):
Jets in twenty twenty three.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
So I here, let me defend Aaron kirk Cousins and
Aaron Rodgers. I don't want to see him in the preseason. Okay,
when you're older. This is not for her. This is
not Mahomes Tua. When you're older and have had an
injury in the last couple of years, I'm not interested
in that at all. I will defend Aaron and Kirk
since those are about the only two guys in the league.
(20:02):
To me that shouldn't take any snaps. I probably wouldn't
give Mahomes a lot or Burrow a lot, but I
think when with Aaron's physical limitations. By the way, if
you're gonna put Aaron on the field, let's just have
one rule. It's got to be the first team A line. Okay,
it's got to be the first team all line. If
you're not going to play Fraser, the center from West Virginia,
(20:24):
if you're not playing your starters, I don't want to
Aron out there. At this point. He and Kirk should
not be playing with backup all line.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
So what about the concern that Rogers is on a
new team with a new offensive coinator, new wide receivers,
new O line.
Speaker 6 (20:38):
There's a lot of newness there for an old dog.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
He's smart enough to yeah, oh yeah, I will say
this this idea that this is calculus. I will always
defend a new quarterback in a situate like like a
young quarterback like Jackson Dart, he should have the quarterback.
He should have the playbook memorize today. Now, does he
know how to read a defense at the NFL consistently? No?
(21:04):
Will he be fooled by good defensive coaches? Yes, you
gotta know your Aaron Rodgers is one of the smarter
guys in the league at the position. If you can't
get the playbook down and about, and I'm being nicer
six weeks, don't give me that nonsense, Anthony Richardson. I
don't care who it is. He may not be able
(21:25):
to read a defense. He may struggle with blitz packages.
I get that. Mahomes acknowledged year three. The light went on.
I don't expect Jackson Dart to pick up every package
like Jackson Dart, if he plays, he'll have bad series.
Jayden Daniels is an outlier, but you got to be
able to Let's not make this into oh. I mean,
(21:46):
if learning a playbook is so hard, then how can
Creed Humphrey, a center out of Oklahoma, get drafted play
Week one for the Chiefs and be flawless on the
offensive line when he not only has to know the play,
but he has the audibles for the old line as
a rookie center. If a center can do it, a
quarterback can do it.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
The football stuff is weird with like tackling like Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 6 (22:09):
Essentially, he's gonna suit up for.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
Week one having not touched a football in a real,
live game.
Speaker 6 (22:15):
In like nine months.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
Colin, you know, I like play basketball all the time.
I cannot imagine like an NBA player going nine months
without playing basketball. Like these guys are playing in summer
leagues and pro ams. Luca's playing internationally. Aaron Rodgers hasn't
seen real football since his last game with the Jets,
and I have real concerns for him. He looked slow
(22:38):
out there. I'm sure you've seen the videos. No, no, no,
and you can't simulate that speed.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
Man, I'm a little wit. It looks slow. He is slow. Yeah, again,
just watching Shadu or who everybody tells me is not athletic.
Shadur moves really well. Shadoor is fight, He's not Lamar.
But Jackson Dart moved really well this week and I
watched all their snap So Aaron's old. Let's just be honest.
About it. He's just a little older and I don't
(23:05):
want him near the field with backup O linemen. Not
interested in that at all.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
All.
Speaker 6 (23:11):
Right, let's go to the New England Patriots.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
They got a win over the Commanders in their season opener.
Drake May played sparingly one drive and three or five
twelve yards, did have a fumble, and Mike Raebel had
an interesting comment afterward talking about May's leadership.
Speaker 6 (23:30):
I'm not just going to say or lack thereof, but
just take a listen.
Speaker 4 (23:35):
The expectations that he's the league's football team. That's what
the job of the head coach and a quarterback is.
That's pretty much how this thing goes. And that can't
take days off. I mean, sometimes the performance isn't going
to be extraordinary, like the leadership and the demeanor has
to be. I think he's learning that. I love the
fact that he's willing to learn.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
And push and try to do those things.
Speaker 4 (23:56):
To where he's demanding of everybody and making sure that
everybody's on the same page.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
I don't that's just a that's nothing nothing, but that's nothing. Yeah,
I mean it's just local radio question. Fill in the space.
It's not he can't.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
He used the word demeanor, and he's got to be demanding.
Speaker 6 (24:15):
Maybe it's hard.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
Why it is very hard to walk into a locker
room at twenty four years old and tell thirty four
year old players what to do. As I've said about
rookie and second year quarterbacks, it's almost unfair. But tough
quarterback is not receiver, Mike linebacker. You have to come
in and bark, and you have to come in and lead,
(24:37):
and if you can't do that, don't play the position.
That's why I don't find me a silly quarterback who's
an all time great. I'm not interested. John Elway was
barking at Dan Reeves's coach. That's what I need, NBA.
I don't just show me your talent, score and defend quarterback.
It's unfair. I had this conversation with a in. John
(25:01):
Middlecoffin and I were talking about this. Surgeons, I need
you to be uniquely mature at twenty seven years old,
No senior froggy, he's night before surgery. I need you
to be home sleeping pilots. I'm not interested in you
hang with the bros like you have to be rested
for your flight. Quarterbacks are same. The only thing in
sports I need you to be ready to go at
(25:23):
twenty four. You don't get to go out and party
with your boys. If you do, like Manziel, you're out
of the leak. I got no time for it. San
Drake May is doing that. But what Frable's saying is
Tom could go out and knock down a beer after
they want to get Tom Brady did not drink in
the regular season, not a beer. That's if you want
(25:45):
to knock him down. Maybe in a bye week you
go to Cancun. That's fine, but it just this is
what's needed for the position.
Speaker 5 (25:52):
Abe.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
We institute that here on the show. No drinking policy
during the season. We got to lock in for gambling.
It's possible. Final story, Colin is Matt you Stafford, He's
got that back issue.
Speaker 6 (26:03):
However, Sean McVeigh.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
Expects him back at practice today and he talked about
Stafford's throwing session on Saturday.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
It was awesome. He looked good. He threw the ball
really well.
Speaker 7 (26:14):
There was no limitations in terms of the types of
throws deep, intermediate, short, We were moving the launch point
and you know, he felt really good and so looking
forward to progressing him back into practice on Monday, but
it was a good step in the right direction.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
By the way, it just came over that Jordan or
Sarah bar shop Or is reporting that Stafford's in street
clothes and didn't appear to be practicing. So I'm going
to give you my Kirk cousin, Aaron Rodgers Matt Stafford comp.
I don't want Matt Stafford in the preseason with backup
offensive lineman Stafford Cousins Aaron, I don't want him out there. Frankly,
(26:53):
Joe Flacco, i'd give a pass to because he's so big.
He's such a physical outlier. He could take a couple
of hits. Quarterbacks who are older, been around the block,
don't need the snaps. Burrow is only doing it because
Cincinnati has been so disappointing in September, so like Zach
Taylor's trying to figure out a way to be better
(27:14):
in September in that division. Otherwise, I wouldn't play Burrow
because of his injuries. But I do think with Burrow,
it's like there's this riddle, like why are they so
bad in September? Like I don't get it, so that
I get Mahomes fights for snaps. I've heard Mahomes wants
more than Andy Gibbs and Andy will play starters. He
doesn't care. So Jmack with the News, Well that's the news,
(27:36):
and thanks for stopping by the herd Line News. You know,
it's really interesting. So what the NFL is doing now.
They have these practices, like you know, the Rams and
the Cowboys will have a practice and then they'll have
a game and it's funny. Andy Reid will not do
that ever, So Andy Reid's theory is he's old school.
(27:58):
You're not going to steal any and I don't want
you to look at my personnel. You could see one
of our fifth round draft picks and you go back
home and you start. You know, Andy Reid does not
want any of those. Kyle Shanahan will do a singular
practice with another team, but not too because his feeling
(28:21):
is if you have a practice and you win the practice,
then the other team this is when fights happen, get
marked at by their coaches and they come back the
next day at practice and they're just banging on your guys.
So one of my few knocks on the NFL is
I don't like preseason. I don't like it, and I
(28:41):
don't think I need a lot of inner squad practices
or whatever you want to call these things. Joint practicem sorry,
joint practices. I don't like joint practices. You can do
a few of them. I don't like preseason games. And
my reason is when Texas and Oklahoma, Texas and Ohio
State play on Fox here in a couple weeks, Texas
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isn't having joint practices with the Aggies, the buck Eyes
aren't having them with the Wolverines. And these are nineteen
year old kids and they'll look like they're ready to play.
Remember Ohio State played Oregon last year early in the season.
How many joint practices, I mean, how many they don't
do it. So if college guys don't need a preseason
(29:25):
and are limited by the NCAA in practice hours and
with the NIL and the transfer portal, these college teams
have thirty new players and they don't need it. So
I think Rashaun Slater getting hurt now I know what
it was at a practice, and sometimes it's just bad luck.
But I don't think joint practices I would do maybe one.
(29:48):
I would not do it with the team in my Division.
I would not. In fact, I probably would make sure
the team's not on my schedule for the next couple
of years. You know, I'm not a conspiracy to rist,
but if Andy Reid says not doing it, I'm kind
of on Andy's side on this, But I'm not a
I'm I think you are paid in football to figure
(30:08):
out how good a guy is without game stuff. Mean
Ohio State. Right now, Ryan Day is going to have
to make a decision on who's the starter. No preseason
and no joint practices. You're paid to figure it out, right, right,
I don't get a pre show before the show, like
the light comes on Talk, right, you can do at
prep practice. We don't. We don't do joint sessions with
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Speaker 3 (31:14):
Sunday, the NFL is back on Fox and we're kicking
it off with raining MVP Josh Allen and the Bills
taking on Caleb Williams and the Bears. Preseason football Sunday,
eight eastern on Fox.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
Okay, time out. That will be the highest retted preseason
game of the preseason. I'll make I'll make a bet
right now. And that's not because of Josh Allen. Aren't
you intrigued by that stuff?
Speaker 3 (31:39):
Listen, Josh Allen, There's no way Josh Allen's taking a
snap in that game.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
He doesn't need to. But with Kayleb Williams, well.
Speaker 6 (31:44):
They're gonna get after Caleb Williams. That's you know.
Speaker 3 (31:46):
Mc McDermott's not going to go in there like, oh,
let's play patty Cake.
Speaker 6 (31:50):
They're going after Caleb.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
Yeah. By the way, you had a note on Shador Sanders.
Speaker 3 (31:54):
Did you see where that video came from of Schdure
talking to the reporter? No, hey, yeah, it was actually
Shadour's brother, Deon Sanders Junior, was filming it. And I'm
just wondering, Colin, was this scripted, Hey, after you play well, let's.
Speaker 6 (32:14):
Go talk to that reporter.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
Get it.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
It's going to go viral. It went viral and it
also pumped up kept it in the family. This isn't
some like random person got the video. It was Deon
Sanders junior of well Off Media. You can read about
that online.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
I don't love that. I don't that's worse than it
being some rando like guys concentrating the stuff that matters
that don't remember when I was critical to Baker get
off television commercials. Stop posing with tigers like figure the
quarterback position out and all the Brown fans. You're making
a big deal. It creates this focus on the stuff
(32:50):
that matter.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
Said, we're in an interesting era right now, Colin where
people want to settle scores. Okay, that's a big thing
among politicians right now, and this, to me feels like
her going after somebody.
Speaker 6 (33:01):
He's had a rough five months dating back to the draft.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
And the lead. He was gonna be a top five pick.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
Daniel Jeremiah had him top twenty on his board, and
the guy falls through the fifth round. Everybody's blasting him.
He gets the speeding tickets, and now he's getting he's
like a pinata in Cleveland.
Speaker 6 (33:15):
Is he going to make the roster? Fourth string?
Speaker 1 (33:17):
He plays?
Speaker 6 (33:18):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (33:18):
I mean he was. He was not great.
Speaker 6 (33:19):
He was good, right, Oh?
Speaker 1 (33:20):
I think no.
Speaker 6 (33:21):
The first thing he does a settle a score with
a reporter.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
Everybody kept telling me he's not athletic enough, and I
kept saying, yes he is. He had two times when
he moved. I mean, and watch him. When he moves,
he throws a really that's a perfect pass. That's a
really good pass against.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
Well.
Speaker 1 (33:43):
I think his accuracy is franchise quarterback accuracy. I think
his movement is he is not a stationary target. I'll
argue this all Now. Does he run backwards too much? Yeah?
Caleb does it? Wagh too much? Caleb? Can you know
Josh did this early? You gotta get that. Caleb is
not athletic enough to do that. I don't think he
(34:03):
did it too much in college. But in college had
a horrible old line Cleveland's O linees Okay. I don't
know where PFF franks to me, it's always been okay,
But I I thought all of his college traits transferred.
I'll give you an example. When Johnny Manzel, everybody told
me how athletic he was. Everybody told me how athletic
(34:25):
Tebow was, and you saw immediately that Tebow was closer
to a tight end than he was a gifted athletic quarterback.
And you saw. I remember the first Johnny Manzel game,
he got outrun by a defensive end and I'm like, no, no, no, no.
Part of Tbau and Manzell's primary strength was whow these
(34:47):
guys get out there and move. Shaudor does not move
noticeably worse than Tbau, who I was told was a
great athlete, should do or. But Shaudr's strength isn't the
chador sits in the pocket and throws darts. I mean,
look at this throw. That's like, it's a really good throw.
That is an excellent here in the pocket with heat.
(35:09):
That is a really big time throw. He is in
the end zone. You got a man coming at you,
a pro. Look at this. That is athletic. I want
to hear that he doesn't have NFL traits. I don't
want to hear that he's a fifth round quarterback. He
was underdrafted.
Speaker 3 (35:22):
Yeah, now this is the Panthers, okay, and these are
backups and third stringers.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
But backup.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
It's a nitpick, just a little, okay.
Speaker 6 (35:30):
I know the two touchdowns.
Speaker 3 (35:31):
You know, their two scoring drives were like ten yard
drive and a forty three yard drive. Okay, so let's
not go. He's not going eighty yards. The drives were
short and sweet. There's a lot of punting, I get it. Overall,
I would say this was a promising debut for Shador,
and I do think it's a real competition now between
him and Dylan Gabriel. I also thought I'm Joe Flacco
starting week one. I just don't believe that.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
I'm sorry, all right, Tyson Beagent the backup for the Bears.
He had like a sixteen play drive. It was pretty good. Yea.
And again I always hear this, Well he's doing it
against backups. He's playing with backups. Also true, Okay, so
it's all relative here. So this is interesting. Mike Sando
(36:12):
the athletic comes out. He'll be on tomorrow. I love this.
I'm obsessed with his quarterback tiers. It's like one of
those gifts. I don't know what day comes out today,
I'm driving it and I'm like Misleby Christmas. I mean,
like I don't even have to talk about it today,
but I led with it, so he has. This is
where NFL executives and I totally agree. In their tiers
(36:35):
four tiers they have Jalen Hurt's ninth tenth best quarterback
and fans view quarterbacks through the lens of hey they
win well. Trend Dilfer and Nick Foles have Super Bowl
rings and Dan Reno doesn't. Matt Hasselbeck doesn't. Matt Hasselbeck
is better than Nick Foles by a lot, and Trent Dilfer.
(36:55):
So gms are asked to contextualize it. And if it
was just about when for a quarterback, then how did
Patrick Mahomes get drafted in the first round? And how
did Josh Allen? I watched Josh Allen play two good
teams in college Iowa, Oregon. He got crushed by bo
fans view quarterback. It's all about winning. You have as
(37:15):
a you're asked, I mean, a great stockbroker tells you
to buy a stock before it's one hundred and forty bucks.
He tells you to buy it when it's thirteen. Anybody
can buy a stock. Anybody can buy Navidia now for
the next ten years, or Amazon, and say, eh, I
know my stuff. Would you buy at NAVIDI at nine
twenty six, seven years ago. So Matt Stafford played in
(37:40):
the NFL for twelve years and did not win a
playoff game. He's a Tier one quarterback and he was
Sean mcvay's number one target. So this is not a
knock on Jalen Hurts. He's not as tall as you'd like.
He's about the same size or shorter than brock Purty.
And brock Purty last week a podcast and said forty
(38:01):
percent of the time I can't see who I'm throwing to.
Tua has said publicly, yeah, a lot of times I
let go of the ball. I can't see the receiver.
So and the other thing is, and this is just
so obvious. The Eagles had a bye week. Remember when
Tom Brady went to Bruce Arians. They were seven and
five and they had a bye week. You can break
(38:22):
down your offense in that bye week and kind of
make a major. It's hard to get off the treadmill
week to week to week, but when you get that
bye week and you get three or four extra practices,
Tom Brady goes to Bruce Arians and says, we're going
to change up the offense. Last year in the bye week,
the people who know him best said, you know, we'd
(38:42):
be better off throwing less. That's a tell. So some
quarterbacks in this league are Taylor Swift. They're leading the
entire tour. Most quarterbacks in this league are the Spice Girls.
They're part of an ensemble. Jalen is part of an ensemble.
Of the fifty voters fifty in the Mike Sando survey
(39:10):
of the fifty three had Jalen Hurds is the tier
one quarterback. Okay, it'd be different if it was like
twenty three, and then we could argue. But he was
much closer to seventh rounder Brock Purty than Mahomes Burrough
and Josh Allen or Lamar. And that's exactly right. Best
(39:32):
a line in football, two great receivers, best running back
in football, an offensive organization, always above average tight ends,
and two easy wins every year with the Giants, and
relatively easy wins over the Cowboys. So, for the record,
I've always said this, the difference between the truly great
(39:56):
like Mahlmes and the good Baker may darnold what happens
when you ask him to carry the team. So Patrick Mahomes.
When he throws over forty times in his career, that
means the Chiefs are either behind or the run game's
not working. Mahlmes is thirty nine and eleven. When Jalen
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hurts with a great o' line is asked to throw
forty times or more, he's own five. He's never won
an NFL game. Okay, those are also very similar to
Dak Prescott's numbers. When Dak Dak went thirteen and three,
when he had the best O line and he had
that great rookie running back remember out of Ohio State
(40:38):
Ezekiel Elliott and Zach's throwing twenty seven times. Dak was
thirteen and three, and then all of a sudden, you
know Zeke ages. They don't have a number one before
a Marii Cooper and it's like, yeah, Dak's not as
good when you ask him to throw forty two times.
It's a different quarterback. So it's not a criticism. Again,
(41:00):
very few Taylor swifts a lot of spice girls. You're
just part of an ensemble. You need protection. For the record,
last year Niners beat up at left tackle. Christian McCaffrey
didn't play. I think perty was one in six with
Kyle Shanahan one in six against playoff teams. Brock, when
he has the ensemble healthy, can be a very effective quarterback.
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Does hearing about a true crime case always leave you scouring the internet for the truth behind the story? Dive into your next mystery with Crime Junkie. Every Monday, join your host Ashley Flowers as she unravels all the details of infamous and underreported true crime cases with her best friend Brit Prawat. From cold cases to missing persons and heroes in our community who seek justice, Crime Junkie is your destination for theories and stories you won’t hear anywhere else. Whether you're a seasoned true crime enthusiast or new to the genre, you'll find yourself on the edge of your seat awaiting a new episode every Monday. If you can never get enough true crime... Congratulations, you’ve found your people. Follow to join a community of Crime Junkies! Crime Junkie is presented by audiochuck Media Company.
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