September 12, 2025 • 41 mins
Colin Cowherd recaps last night's game between the Commanders and the Packers, why Commanders fans shouldn't worry too much about the loss, how much leeway Caleb Williams needs from the Chicago Bears this season, whether or not it's a bad sign Miami already held a players only meeting, and more!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
It is a fride day and we are loaded blazing
five off a winning week one. The Green Bay Packers
once again little sloppy, but put on a show last night, Jamak.
I had them number one in the Herd hierarchy. I
said it was the best team I saw in Week one,
and they have now totally shut down last season's number
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one and number two most efficient offenses.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
So I mean they it jumps off of TV, does
it not? This team is good.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Essentially the first two games they gave up nothing, the
first three quarters nothing. The defense is that good. Michael
Parsons is unfreaking believable.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Yeah, and he's only playing sixty eight percent of the
snap so that'll go up to seventy eight and eighty eight.
So this I am absolutely sure of. As I start
my show on a Friday. Green Bay is the fastest
team in the NFL. They're tight ends run, they're defensive
ends run well, they're wide receivers, their quarterback can run,
and the spacing and speed is on display. Last night
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was the youngest team in the league against the oldest,
and it looked like it. I have not seen a
defense in Green Bay that's aggressive. And there is not
another wide receiver tight end group in the NFL that
has this much speed and this much talent, and they're
not paying any of it. Terry mcclaurin of Washington alone,
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alone makes ten million more than the entire wide receiver
and tight end group for the Packers. And this is
also the power of patience that Green Bay is allowed
to have. They can draft Jordan Love and sit in
for three years because they don't have an owner, an
impulsive guy at the top pulling strings. They don't have
a harsh and relentless local media, and they have loyal
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fans and reasonable fans. So when they dip their toe
in free agency, like Micah, it's worth it. The other
thing I thought last night is, you know, people freak
out green Bay gave up two first round picks. You
tell me what do they need? They got their quarterback,
they got their skill. I mean, they've got their tackles,
They've got their pass rusher, I got their linebackers. That's
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when you can give up first round picks. What do
they need? I mean's And for the record, Matthew Golden,
the kid out of Texas again, it's going to take
him until week six, seven, eight nine. He's going to
be another track star. And here's the thing. Not only
did they blow out Detroit and I mean that game
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last night, I couldn't believe it was a one score game.
In the fourth quarter, they were totally dominating it. The
Packers rolled and they were sloppy. I mean they got
to clean a lot of stuff up. They had ten penalties,
they were starting two backups on the offensive line. Micah
Parsons only took sixty eight snaps. And they have rolled
two very good rosters. And last year we like Green
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Bay a lot, but they struggled against the best teams.
They were zero and six against Philadelphia, Detroit, and Minnesota.
Yeah that's over. So the only time that Detroit and
Washington felt like they could compete was in the fourth quarter,
in its garbage time. So I mean this is they
have four different wide receivers. Green Bay does that according
to next Gen stabs run nineteen miles per hour or faster.
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Washington has one Deebo lookd twitchy, and they'll get their
offense in Washington. You know, McLaurin showed up late. But
I mean sometimes you just have to watch and just
be honest about it. No team in the league. How
often did Green Bay players pull away from Washington players?
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It could be reverses, bubble screens. I mean, it's a
track team that tackles well. So Jordan Loves how nine
straight games regular season games? Think about this, and Jordan
Love is a risk taker. He has more far than
Aaron Rodgers. He's got he's got a big arm, and
he'll throw it and he'll throw it on the move.
He's an aggressive quarterback. And Matt Lafleur is a pretty
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aggressive coach. And yet Jordan Love has got nine straight
regular season games without a turnover. And you know why
he's doing that because he figured it out. Just get
the ball to this speed group and they'll do the rest.
So I mean this is to me, this is hands
down the most impressive team I've seen in the NFL,
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and they're not paying anybody outside of Jordan Love. You know,
they're they're they're paying Mica, They're paying Jordan Love. They're
not paying a lot of people. So the future is
in incredibly bright. A lot of teams have to buy
free agents. You know, players are getting old and brittle.
Young players get hurt, but they return to action sooner.
So this team has so much depth at so many spots,
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and again, young players, young athletes recover quicker. I don't
see any liability here holding this team back from getting
to a super Bowl. To me, I don't see a flaw.
Just they got to clean some stuff up. They're sloppy,
starters don't play in the preseason. It's week two that
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you know. I don't take anything from the mistakes. They're
all easy to clean up. And here's Jordan Love on
the skill and speed that surrounds him.
Speaker 4 (05:44):
It's one of those things where you know, we had
a goal coming to the season to start the season
off fast and build on the things we've done last year.
And obviously I think we got a really good offense
and we've been talking about, you know, the sky's the
limit home. We got so many playmakers We're really deep
on offense, and I just got to find ways to
go out there and you know, executing against good defenses
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like them.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
So I think it's ironic that the Miami Dolphins, previously
the previous three years, the fastest team in the NFL,
had a player's only meeting yesterday. And this is really
the difference between Green Bay. When I think of Green Bay,
I think of stability and patience. When I think of
the Miami Dolphins, I think of shortcuts and flash And
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I've said this for years. I do think teams tend
to embody the culture of the city. Like when I
was a young kid in the seventies, Pittsburgh was known
as like that's where you made steel, and the Steelers
were tough. Of course they were tough. Pittsburgh's were tough.
People in Pittsburgh were tough. They made steel for the
rest of the country. Miami's always been a flashy town
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and Dan Marino big arm, it been flashy. Miami's flashy.
You know, the last time they want a playoff game.
Dave Wanstat was a coach, great defense, great run game.
May want to get back to that. But it's interesting
watching and juxtaposing green Bay the fastest team in the
league where it jumps off the television how fast they are,
And it did for Miami for three years, but they
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did it through a trade and had to pay a
fortune for it. Green Bay is not paying any of
their fast guys. So this is the difference between you know,
structure and stability and shortcuts. And they always say there's
an old saying speed kills you know, you know, it
really kills bad GMing, bad coaching, lack of culture. It
makes even the fastest guys slower. And the fact they
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had a player's only meeting after the first week is
a danger sign football the basic ethos of football, and
it will always be true again the last playoff win
in Miami with a defensive coach, a run game and
a defense and time of possession. That football is built
on details and drafting and development and physicality and Miami's
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just not good at that. Now, if you can play
at elite speed on top of that, that's green Bay.
But you know, I'm watching the Packers last night and
I'm thinking, as I'm watching the game last night, this
is what Miami thought it would look like. We were
just gonna get the ball to the distributors run around. Yeah,
but you didn't have the coaching and the culture and
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the patience. You know, that's the difference. And I'm not
picking on Miami because when they got Tyreek Hill and
Jaden Waddle, You're like, oh, this is gonna be crazy.
But it should be noted not only is Wan Stat
a defensive guy who loved the run game, the last
guy to win a playoff game there. When I think
of the Miami Heat in that flashy city, you know
what I think of d Wade's defense, Haslam's defense, Lebron's defense,
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Jimmy Butler's defense, pat Riley defense, Eric Spolstra defense. When
they were winning, like you know, back to back Eastern
Conference Championship series. When they're getting into those games, they
had a top three or four defense in the league.
So Miami may live in that crazy, flashy speedboat town,
but the core of Miami has always been long practices,
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tough in physicality, and then Tyler hero can go hit
a three. But I you know, I just looked at
Green Bay and I thought this is what Miami thought
they would be. And they don't have the stability, and
they don't have the patients and they're having a player's
only meeting after week one. Yikes, here's two on the meeting.
Speaker 5 (09:27):
A lot of it has to do with communication, what
you want out of the guys, what the guys should
expect from you coming into a game like this week,
prior to the game that happened, from the performance that
I put out there, obviously it starts with me, but
with those guys, you know, just communicating to them what
our expectation is going into this week and being able
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to move forward from that. You know, seventeen, we got
seventeen games that were you know, guaranteed that was one
of them.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
It's a long season a half that, it certainly is.
Tom Brady was on the show yesterday and Tom Brady
had a lot to say and a very brutally honest
takedown of some bad coaching and bad quarterback play in
the NFL. And we will talk about that coming up next.
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Speaker 1 (11:07):
All right, we have Blazing five forty five minutes from now.
Urban Meyer stops by today. Dave wanstad'lbe in studio here,
former Bears coach that Bears Lions one o'clock window game
is going to get a number. That's the NFL is
on a heater in terms of ratings. That's going to
get a number. That's fascinating. I had Tom Brady on
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the show yesterday and I said, Tom, you grew up
in a different generation. All these quarterbacks now had personal
coaches seven on seven summer camps. They have ten thousand
snaps by the time they're thirteen years old the five
times the snaps a quarterback had twenty thirty years ago
coming out of high school or college. And so is
it fair, I asked Tom Brady, is it fair by
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Thanksgiving of this year, Thanksgiving of year two, that you
can make a definitive statement if Caleb Williams isn't good
enough to just move on.
Speaker 8 (12:00):
There's a lot of people who have no idea what
they're doing when they're tasked with coaching a quarterback or
calling an offense. So are you saying, I mean, just
like we'd rank quarterbacks one to thirty two, do you
rank offensive coordinators one to thirty two? What if you're
a quarterback, then you go to a system and they
don't teach you coverage. They don't teach you cover one,
they don't teach you cover two, they don't teach you
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cover four, they don't have personnel meetings. They give you
an offensive game plan and they go all right, but
here you go figure it out, and after Thanksgiving of
your second year, they're going, man, this guy just can't
play anymore well.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
And this is a point Brady has made on my
show multiple times in two years. As a lot of people,
even some of the good coaches like Mike Tomlin, and
they're not great with quarterback play, like they just don't
have a feel for it. So and we were sitting
down this morning and I said, if you gave me
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a circle of trust of teams in this league that
I'm absolutely sure would get the most out of any
quarterback they would draft or sign. I came up with
seven teams. Now, that doesn't mean Buffalo didn't have good coaches,
but Josh Allen would have succeeded anywhere. It doesn't mean
Baltimore doesn't have good coaches, but Lamar Jackson such a
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unique special talent. I think he would have had success anywhere.
But I would say Chargers with Harball, Andy Reid and
the Chiefs Sean Payton and Denver Green Bay, San Francisco
with Shanahan McVeigh and Kevin O'Connell. That's kind of my
quarterback development circle of trust. Again, that doesn't mean Baltimore
isn't a great organization. I've argued it maybe the best
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top to bottom, but I think John Harball comes more
of a defense special teams background, and I think Lamar
was such a unique talent just he was gonna gain yards.
It just didn't matter who got him, he was going
to have some success. That's one fifth of the league,
like those McVeigh, Shanahan, Kevin O'Connell. You say, oh, oh,
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what about Joe Burrow. You don't think Joe Burrell would
be better in San Francisco. LA really had better ownership,
better allions. I mean, Baker Mayfield has had ten offensive
coordinators already in the NFL. It's They're just a lot
of bounce around coaches in this league. And Baker's flourished now.
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So credit to Darnold and Gino and Baker who've had
multiple coaches, multiple teams, multiple quarterbacks and they're still flourishing.
They deserve a ton of credit. But the circle of
trust in this league. And then you could say, well,
what did the Niners do with the Trey Lance? Well,
Trey Lance isn't viewed as a franchise quarterback by anybody
in the league. There are some players you're not going
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to take to a next level because they're just not
that guy. I don't think Mac Jones is a franchise quarterback.
He'll be okay with Kyle Shanahan because he's okay, But
there are not many places in this league to Tom's point,
where you can put a quarterback and you're like, yeah,
they'll get the most out of him. I mean, go
back to what Sean McVay did with one practice. Remember
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that with Baker Mayfield. One practice and I think it
was a Monday night game. I could be wrong, but
he brought him in with one practice and if I recall,
Baker had like a game winning drive late. Remember what
Kevin O'Connell did in Minnesota. He brought in a very
smart kid, the kids very smart, Josh Dobbs, no practices,
and Josh Dobbs had a great game with no practices.
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There are just eight there are. I mean, there are
just very few teams in this league that I think, yeah,
they'll they'll get the quarterback, they'll get the most out
of it. And that's why I think with Caleb Williams,
I thought last year was the worst situation any young
quarterback could go into Chicago, defensive coach on the hot
seat and a loud media that was going to get
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really ugly if things went sideway fast. At least now
with Ben Johnson, I feel like Caleb with a rebuilt
O line and Ben Johnson, Caleb if he doesn't seed,
it's not in the organization. They've given him a fair
chance to succeed. With Ben and the rebuilt offensive land.
They got nice weapons, Roam A Dunze, DJ Moore, Cole
Comet Loveland from Michigan. I mean, they got swift, They
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got real real players now in real offensive coaches. But
Brady's been on this for two years and not everybody
knows what they're doing with quarterbacks. And it's weird because
it is the most by a mile, not even close,
the most important position in the entire sport, and about
a seventh of the league. I trust with it, a
fifth of the league. Maybe I trust with the position.
J Mack with the news.
Speaker 4 (16:34):
No, no, no, the news.
Speaker 6 (16:37):
This is the herdline news.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
All right, Coln.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
Let's start with a great matchup in Pittsburgh this weekend.
Seattle travels to Pittsburgh to face Aaron Rodgers and the Steelers. Yeah,
you know, a big narrative around, Hey, Rogers had four touchdowns,
he's back. I don't know O. C Arthur Smith is
pushing back on some narratives that are negative against Rogers.
There's a lot of miscons exceptions at times, but he's
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one of the best leaders I've been around. He's authentic.
Aaron Rodgers one win and now everybody it's kumbaya with that.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
Well, let's be fair. Four touchdowns. It is interesting, though,
that you can look sometimes at a quarterback's numbers. I
told you I thought rock Party that was the most
I ever had been impressed with brock perty and he
threw two picks. You gotta be careful about the data.
PFF ranked Aaron Rodgers fourth. I saw the number here.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
Hold on, well, listen, he had a couple hit some
good numbers.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
No, but it was interesting what PFF had him grated
as I think. PFF, yeah it was. Aaron was the
fifth lowest quarterback in Week one according to PFF. It's
the lowest. Yeah. So this idea that it's all this
quored a bunch of Pittsburgh was a mirage in Week one.
First of all, their defense will be much better against Seattle.
They get all these new pieces, So Pittsburgh's defense is
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not that bad. It's going to be much better against
the Seahawks. And Aaron is not going to go four
touchdowns and no picks and have that time to throw.
He's not like he did last week against the Jets.
The Seahawks defense has got the same coaching staff from
last year. It is young, it is fast. Aaron just
stats and scoreboard can be way over valued.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
I totally agree Colin and I actually think that we're
wrong on the scoreboard. I don't again, five years ago,
Aaron Rodgers mattered. I personally don't think people are interested
in Aaron Rodgers in twenty twenty five. Yeah, the year,
he's just not that interesting anymore. And like we could
take sample size. Oh look online people are talking about him.
He's not like a top ten or interesting quarterback in
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the league.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
And that's because, well, we're in the golden age of
quarterbacks in my lifetime. You watched Jordan Love last night.
We don't even put Jordan when we talk top ten quarterbacks,
we don't naturally put Jordan Love in it.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
Oh, he's definitely ahead of Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
That's not even that's not even debatable. But my point
is we have so many good quarterbacks now that we
don't put Dak or Jordan Love in the top ten.
And go watch what they've looked like through three starts.
Between those two, they've been incredible. The quality of quarterback
play right now is insane in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
I'm actually more interested to see how Sam Darnold does
in this spot. Pittsburgh's a little beat up on the
defense coming off that Jets game, and I.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Think it's going to be a close twenty seventeen football game.
I think it's going to look a lot like San
Francisco and Seattle. It's going to look a lot like that.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
So but my thing about Donald, I know he's your
guy obviously the USC Ties. He was great last year
for Kevin O'Connell and ad Justin Jefferson. Now you downshift
in Seattle and you don't have that. And I just wonder, Colin,
if he doesn't show well here this weekend, are you off?
Remember you had Seattle? I think winning the division or
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second going to the plass. Does this give you pause?
If they lose back to back games to start the no.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
I have him as a wildcard team. I think he
went from Kevin O'Connell, which is offensive, creative coach and
all sorts of offensive skill, to Seattle, which has their
best players on defense, does not have a true number
one and has a defensive coach. So I think Seattle
is kind of the opposite of Minnesota in terms of
culture and offense and how they view the world. Seattle
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ran fifty two percent of their plays last week, and
I thought that was lower. I thought they'd be almost
a fifty five percent run team. Seattle wants to gobble
up the line, run the ball, speed the game up,
and be attacking on defense. So I think what you're
gonna see the Steelers defense is going to come to play.
They're going to play much better. They're at home, they
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can't play worse. And Seattle is going to just try
to pound it out, run game, put Darnold in very
few positions to fail. I think it's a very close,
very low scoring game.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
I totally agree. Let's go to Monday night football beat
Carolyn Jim Harball. You know they have a long rivalry.
Apparently they're six and six head to head, and they
you know, they used to meet in the PAC twelve
way back in the day. Monday, the Raiders host the
Chargers and the rivalry will be renewed. Here are the
coaches talking about matching up once again.
Speaker 6 (21:06):
I remember, Jim, no, I have no fun members. I'm good.
That's great games. It have been great games.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
That's all.
Speaker 9 (21:15):
That's pretty well documented. And he was a great coach,
you know, one of the one of the best, and
it's a.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
Lot of respect.
Speaker 6 (21:31):
You know.
Speaker 9 (21:31):
I always think that had I ever played, you know,
for him, you know, on one of his teams, uh,
because he was coaching when I was playing, and or
Arizona staff once I got into coaching, I bet we
would have been really good friends.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
Yeah. I remember when Harbaugh took a Stanford team into US.
He is a forty point dog.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
I remember that.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
That's it was probably the upset of the decade at
the time. Before didn't app State beat Michigan after that
at some point.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
But they did beat Michigan.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
Yeah, yeah, but I mean I remember that game, and
it was the Stanford stuff. Stanford was a mess when
he took it over, and they became an incredibly tough,
physical team with Andrew Luck. But I mean, these guys
are different personalities, but you know what, they both aged well.
Hardbaugh's chilled out. I mean he's kind of chilled, and
he was much more intense. He's more laid back and
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chill now. And Pete has aged incredibly well because he
has the most insane energy I've ever seen by anyone. Yeah,
I mean Pete is just working that gum like he's
thirty two years old. So I mean, you know, oh,
they happened a month apart. Is that true? The staff
says APP State Michigan USC, right, But I mean, I
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just I think both these guys are a testament to aging. Well,
they're obsessed with football and it shows.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
Yeah. In regard to the matchup, Patriots slot receivers destroyed
the Raiders. Their cornerback was one of the worst opening weeks.
Ladi mcconkee is going to eat on Monday night. I
like the charges big in that one.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
Kyll theway Michigan State Michigan lost to app State September
two thousand and seven October Stanford USC. So they were
literally those are the two that year. You had two
of the biggest upsets I can ever remember in college
football that.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
Kim believe that was eighteen years ago and you remembered it.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
Yeah, I know, I remember it scary and I remember
the app State Michigan game. I think there was a
field goal that played a part late in the game.
As a long time ago, but yeah, crazy year.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
Yeah, I don't remember what I had for dinner Tuesday night.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
All right, let's go.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
Final story is the New York Giants obviously were terrible
in Week one, could get no offense. Started with Russell
Wilson under center. Sunday on Fox, they faced the Cowboys,
and there's a lot of chatter about Jackson Dart, but
Russell Wilson is not phased. Here'says confidence level entering week two.
Speaker 10 (23:54):
I think that you you embraced challenge. You know. I
don't think I've run from challenges. I don't think I've
run from you know anything. I know confident. I am
in myself, confident in the guys that we have. I
think for me personally, you know, my confidence never blinks,
you know. I just I've been through everything. You know,
I've been through all the biggest highs there could be.
I've been through a few lows. At the same time,
I also know that I'm my confidence never waivers.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
And yeah, I don't think he loses confidence. I think
what he's lost is elusiveness. And I think that was
the secret sauce. I mean, listen, Nolan Ryan could throw
a curve, but if his fastball got down to ninety two,
He's not Nolan Ryan like you know it didn't. But
that's the reality of what he is. Russell made a
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living on being elusive, and when he lost that ability
to do that. He was never an elite pocket guy.
He was good at running around and good over the
top on those rainbow throws. But I mean, you and
I have talked about this. In my lifetime. I do
not remember a quarterback going from Pro Bowl to what
I viewed the last four years. It's not like he
doesn't work hard, but his game was so uniquely elusive.
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He wasn't a burner. He just had this ability, like
a kid running through a mall around people like. He
had this ability to make people miss and then all
of a sudden, now they don't miss, and there's not
a lot there because he's not a great pocket quarterback.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
Right, two quick ones A, Is Russell Wilson a Hall
of Famer? No? No, I think it's so fine. If
Marshawn Lynch he actually carries the football and scores a touchdown,
he has.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
Two Super Bowls? Is he a Hall of Famer? Then
you're asking me if he's a Hall of Famer. I
didn't say he wouldn't get votes. No, No, would you
vote in it. That's not no, I know, but I think,
but I think you can put him on a ballot.
I mean, but I don't think it is. I don't think.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
Okay, yeah, and then the second one. Will Jackson Dark
take a snap this week against Dallas Yesterda.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
No, No, because I think it'll be a close game
and it's a division game, and I think you have
to you have to play that. You got to give Russell.
I think if they trail like fourteen nothing in half
and aren't moving the ball, yeah, I think you think
about it walking to the locker room. But I and
I said before, I think you got to play Jackson
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Dart very soon. I think. I don't think Brian Dabole
wants to bail after six quarters, you know, so, I
think they'll give him eight corters.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
Shart.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
See where you're at, and you may not have a choice.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
Colin Dables on the hot seat. How long you want
to wait before you, Hey, we got to get this
guy shot. I'm cooked if Russ keeps this up. I
like the Cowboys and Survivor this week. I know you're
not a huge Survivor player, but I think the Cowboys
are winning this game. I don't see them losing it
there in all my teasers. Is there any world where
the Giants win this colin?
Speaker 1 (26:38):
That's funny. So my most assured pick in week one
almost backfired. Philadelphia I thought would beat Dallas. That was
a luck. So I can't use Philadelphia in week two.
Who would I use in that shirt? But I'm gonna
tell you something. Even by week two, it gets tricky.
It depends that Baltimore Ravens are favored by like twelve.
I would say Arizona. I'd use my Arizona pair, Arizona
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at home against Carolina. If I was in a survival pool,
that would probably be my pick.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
Well, I'm in multiple and sometimes multiple entries, so yes,
that's another.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
Pick of mine. Jmack with the news, Well that's the news,
and thanks for stopping by the herd Line News. So
I was saying this with the Packers, just trust your eyes.
That is the fastest team in the league. The Kansas
City Chiefs, trust your eyes. They're not a very good
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offensive football team. The run game, below average, offensive line
well below average. If Xavier Worthy doesn't play, they don't
have a number one receiver, and if he does, he's
still not a number one receiver. He's more of a
gadget guy in a two. So the Chiefs offense since
twenty twenty three, this is hard to get your brain
around because it was so good early. The first five
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or six years was so dynamic. But they're like middle
of the pack, twenty third in rushing, twenty seventh in
big plays, eighteen in red zone percentage. And that's with
Mahomes and Andy Reid. So if Mahomes and Andy Reid
can't do better than eighteenth in red zone efficiency, I
mean these are guys that dialed up Sky Moore in
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the Super Bowl to be wide open for touchdowns. So
I mean last year they were thirty first in the
NFL in big plays and they had the fewest rushes
of over ten yards. So it's one of those things.
I was joking this morning that I remember a show
came out called True Detective, and it had eight episodes
and there was twelve Emmy nominations, and it was just unbelievable.
(28:35):
It became my favorite show. Matthew McConaughey, Woody Harrelson, and
so I could not wait for year two and I
was just like, every episode has been unbelievable and by
the middle of the second episode of Year two, I
was like, yeah, it's not very good. I'm gonna trust
my instincts on TV viowy they not very good. And
I feel like with Kansas City, they had so many
big years that you just sort of like, yeah, I mean,
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oh wow, they don't have any wow. There's there's not
a lot of wow there. They don't run the ball.
The old line is getting rebuilt again and yeah and again.
This is with the Reid Mahomes and a great GM
so they have they have hit on a lot of
defensive draft picks. But they may have the same name.
(29:18):
But true Detective Year two wasn't the same show, and
it may be the chiefs Mahomes and Reid, it is
not the same show. Here's Brady yesterday on Mahomes trying
to carry the load right now in KC.
Speaker 8 (29:31):
When you control both sides of the line of scrimmage,
you have a huge opportunity for success, and it takes
someone like Patrick Mahomes to kind of have that Mahomes
magic and pull the rabbit out of his hat in
order to keep his team in the game. With the
rookie Simmons, with Sue Mattie who's in there is a
second round pick from last year, Creed Humphrey there and
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and Tray Smith at right guard. They're they're set up
to have a pretty good offensive line as they gel
and grow together. So that will be great for Patrick
to feel like he has some confidence to stand back there.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
But right now, when you watch them, trust your eyes.
He does not remember last year we talked about this.
Last year, Greg Cosell came on our show and I
asked Greg Cosell, I said, what is wrong with Kansas
City's offense? And do you remember what Greg Cosell? He
said it last year early in the season, week four
to five. He said, Patrick does not trust his own line.
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He doesn't trust it. You can watch his feet. He
doesn't trust it. So am I supposed to believe After
getting blown out by the Eagles in the Super Bowl
and getting beat by the Chargers and facing pressure, he
trusted now now that to Tom's point, he may trust
it in six weeks, but right now, trust what you're seeing.
There's no wow for an offense. That was the definition
(30:51):
of wow the first five years, six years of mahomes
blazing five top of the hour, it's the Hurt.
Speaker 6 (30:58):
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Speaker 3 (31:04):
Play the Fox Super six NFL Challenge. Download the Fox
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is which QB will have the most passing yards in
Week two? Mahomes, Dak Goff or Caleb Colin.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
Who you got Jared Goff against the Bears?
Speaker 3 (31:30):
Good answer, Yeah, Jared Bear's secondary is getting cooked.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
Although I will say ceedee Lamb eats against the Giants.
He does, so. I've never bought into sophomore slumps. Mahomes
didn't have one, Peyton Manning was substantially better in year two,
Joe Burrow didn't have one, Lamar Jackson didn't have one.
Josh Allen got better year one a year two. I
(31:59):
don't think Jayden Daniel is going to be a sophomore
slump guy because I think he has elements to his
personality and his makeup are that transcend slumps, IQ, maturity,
EQ poise. Those are slump proof power hitters in baseball,
they have slumps. Tony Gwinn hit four fifteen against Greg
(32:20):
Maddox contact hitters like Tony gwyn not rereally slumpy. Steph
Curry sixteen years in the league thirty nine percent to
forty four percent. He didn't have slump years. He may
have a bad half. So I think Washington last night
ran into a Green and White buzzsaw. It was a
short week, they were on the road. Green Bay's the
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best team in the league. Green Bay's the fastest team
in the league, and Washington isn't. They have one receiver
that runs over nineteen miles an hour next gen stats.
Green Bay's got four and I think one of Green
Bay's most talented skilled players. Kraft is a kid. He'll
only get better and he's great now and golden out
of Texas. Again, it's his second NFL game, So they
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were a short week on the road, old team against
the young team. I don't worry about Jayden Daniels at all.
I think he's magnificent and here he is after.
Speaker 11 (33:15):
You got ten games on ten days to our next game.
So I didn't und to dwell about it. You know,
it's early in the season. I wouldn't expect them my
in this locker room to hit the panic button. We
placed we faced a really good team and we came
up short.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
They've got a new left tackle, Deebo's new chest piece,
McLaurin got into camp late. So I think just watching
Green Bay, I mean Detroit was a bulldozing run game,
and last week against the Packers, they couldn't move the ball.
So you see this sometimes where like you just see
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a team. I mean, wait till Mike is playing ninety
percent of the snaps. I mean Micah played forty eight
percent last week. He played sixty eight percent last night.
I mean, you watched these highlights were showing you on television.
Cream Bay's closing speed is everywhere and there, and you know,
the faster we are, the more aggressive you are. The
Packers are super aggressive, and I just don't think Washington
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knew what they were in for. So I saw this
fifteen years ago. I was doing this show on radio,
and I made a pivot. So I was at the
other place, and I was about four or five years
into my career at the other place, and I was
in the gym, and after my workout, I ran into
a senior manager at the other place and we were
(34:35):
talking about we both liked business and kind of the
architecture of radio and TV, and we were talking about
behind the scenes boring stuff and it wasn't boring to us.
And that person said at ESPN, I would never say
this out loud, but baseball's a regional and local sport,
and he said it's hard to do as a national
network because people in New York don't really necessarily care
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about the a's of the Mariners, and people in Seattle
don't care about the Texas Rangers or the Rays. But
a Seahawks fan would watch the Buccaneers, and a Charger
fan would absolutely watch the Vikings. But would a Podrey
fan care about the Twins. It's a local, regional sport.
And so at that time I made a pivot that
I was going to talk about pro football about seventy
percent of my show, which seems crazy, but I always
(35:19):
argued that if I was in London doing a show,
seventy five percent of my show would be the English
Premier League. If I was in Canada, I'd have to
leave because seventy five percent of my show would have
to be hockey. So I would I would move somewhere,
no disrespect. They go to Canada every other summer, So
I just saw the numbers for the NFL right now,
(35:40):
and the reality is NFL Week one viewership is off
to a massive start. And I think what's happening. As
the platforms have increased in America, there's just more places,
more streaming outlets, more TikTok as it's gotten wider. There
is only one thing in this country that transcends all
(36:03):
of it and can get people away from their phones.
It's politics and presidential election years every four years. That'll
get people off their phones. And it's the NFL, not
even sports. The NFL top one hundred shows last year,
ninety four were football. So I I just it's funny
(36:25):
I hear all these discussions. This cracks me up. Hey,
let's do a red zone in baseball. We could do
a red zone in college football, do a red zone
in hockey. You do get what makes the red zone great.
It's not the name red zone. And I love Scott Hansen,
but it's not the host. It's the National Football League.
(36:45):
It works because of the NFL, regardless of the host,
and he's terrific, and regardless of the name, the red
zone works because of the NFL. It's not gonna work
for any other sport, so you can try it, but
there's an urgent to it. And it was funny this
week Adam Silver, who I think is really good at
what he does, Adam Silver admitted he said, we're kind
(37:08):
of a highlight league. People watch us in highlights, and
David Stern, before his death privately would tell people, listen,
people watch us in the playoffs, but mostly they watch
our highlights because NBA players are such great athletes. The
highlights are so much fun to watch. But the only sport,
according to every piece of data, that we really sit down,
(37:31):
get off our phones and watch is Sunday in the NFL.
That's it. And this weekend Eagles Chiefs. From what I'm
hearing on Fox, we think it's going to set an
NFL potential NFL playoff record if it's close. I do
think it's close. I think the Chiefs got so humiliated
in the Super Bowl that I think there's going to
be so much pride and so much resilience, and the
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Chiefs have too many smart people in the building and
they have a very good defense. I think it's going
to be a pretty low scoring game, and I think
Kansas City's go to keep it close. But you know,
Philadelphia is so good on third down and so good
on fourth down. You're gonna have those circumstantial situational plays
in the game that I think just Philadelphia is so
good at They're gonna get the fourth down, They're gonna
pick up the red zone first down, and Kansas City
is struggling with that. But I do think it's a
(38:15):
close game. But week one of the NFL viewership unbelievable.
I have blazing five at the top of the hour,
J Max got his picks? Is there? I want to
put up the schedule because I always ask you this,
J Mack. We have an upset in every week now.
Last week Tennessee almost upset Denver, and last week Dallas,
(38:35):
if not for the Ceedee Lamb drop, almost upset Philadelphia.
So last week it was a lot of favorites. There
were close games, but it wasn't the massive upset. Is
there anything in this schedule? So Green Bay was a
favorite last night and they housed Washington. I think you
and I believe, I think both of us believe. With
Brock Purty out, the Saints have a chance at home
(38:57):
to beat San Francisco. Is at fair You don't think so.
Speaker 3 (39:00):
I'm on Niners there. I basically bet three games pretty
heavily this week Texans Monday Night Football, Detroit Lions against
your Bears, and then the one underdog. We both like
Tennessee Titans getting six and five and a half based
on the Rams injury report. The Titans defense, which I
like a lot, and I think we agree cam Wards
showed much better than the final stat line. I think
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his receivers had four or five drops, and I think
there could be a letdown for the Rams they have.
I believe it's the Eagles on deck next week, or
they have a tough opponent next week.
Speaker 6 (39:30):
I like the.
Speaker 3 (39:31):
Titans as a dog that could win out right.
Speaker 1 (39:33):
By the way, what do you make a Raiders? Chargers?
Raiders at home, Chargers from Brazil, Chargers still, you know
they'll have some questions on that old line.
Speaker 3 (39:42):
I'm gonna rock with the Chargers on the road. My
brother will be at that game. Invited me, but I
was like, listen, I got this little show to do
called the Herd. You know Jeffrey, so I can't quite
make it, but he'll be in Vegas for that one.
Should be a good game.
Speaker 1 (39:53):
I like Chargers, Yeah, yeah, it's yeah, there's you know
what's interesting. The Raiders and the Jags pulled off wins
in Week one, and so do you trust the Raiders?
Do you trust the Jags? It's you know, like I
think like certain things that we saw in week one
will not be true. Like the Steelers defense is not
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that bad. They got new pieces here, older players by
the way they brought in, don't play in the preseason.
The Steelers defense is not going to look like that
going forward. I am mischell. I don't think justin Fields
is going to look like that going forward. Like certain
things I think are true that I think you can
take certain things like Green Bay. They're really fast, They're
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really aggressive, they have a ton of speed. That is
a fact. Detroit their coaching is not as good as
last year, that is a fact. Pittsburgh's defense will not
look like that this week or going forward. It won't
look that pathetic.
Speaker 3 (40:52):
How about the Colts and Steichen and Daniel Jones? Will
they look that good against Denver? I've been looking at
that game a lot. Colin here that blazing five, Oh yeah,
it's in my blazing five.
Speaker 1 (41:01):
I mean, let's be honest, Miami, and I don't know
if you can quit, but defensively Miami felt like they quit.
Not offensively, but you're gonna go from the most disorganized
defense in the league. In Week one, Daniel Jones and
the Colts faced to I think easily the best pass
rush in the league. And by the way, as Sean
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Paige Noahs said, the best time to coach a team
is when you play like crap and win, he goes,
you can ride your players. That next week, Denver played
poorly and won. Yeah, so watch watch Denver come out
on fire. I'm gonna tell you that pass rush it
is a sea of orange.
Speaker 3 (41:45):
We like a lot of the same games this week,
I think Blazing five next to Herd
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
It is a fride day and we are loaded blazing
five off a winning week one. The Green Bay Packers
once again little sloppy, but put on a show last night, Jamak.
I had them number one in the Herd hierarchy. I
said it was the best team I saw in Week one,
and they have now totally shut down last season's number
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one and number two most efficient offenses.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
So I mean they it jumps off of TV, does
it not? This team is good.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Essentially the first two games they gave up nothing, the
first three quarters nothing. The defense is that good. Michael
Parsons is unfreaking believable.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Yeah, and he's only playing sixty eight percent of the
snap so that'll go up to seventy eight and eighty eight.
So this I am absolutely sure of. As I start
my show on a Friday. Green Bay is the fastest
team in the NFL. They're tight ends run, they're defensive
ends run well, they're wide receivers, their quarterback can run,
and the spacing and speed is on display. Last night
(01:29):
was the youngest team in the league against the oldest,
and it looked like it. I have not seen a
defense in Green Bay that's aggressive. And there is not
another wide receiver tight end group in the NFL that
has this much speed and this much talent, and they're
not paying any of it. Terry mcclaurin of Washington alone,
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alone makes ten million more than the entire wide receiver
and tight end group for the Packers. And this is
also the power of patience that Green Bay is allowed
to have. They can draft Jordan Love and sit in
for three years because they don't have an owner, an
impulsive guy at the top pulling strings. They don't have
a harsh and relentless local media, and they have loyal
(02:15):
fans and reasonable fans. So when they dip their toe
in free agency, like Micah, it's worth it. The other
thing I thought last night is, you know, people freak
out green Bay gave up two first round picks. You
tell me what do they need? They got their quarterback,
they got their skill. I mean, they've got their tackles,
They've got their pass rusher, I got their linebackers. That's
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when you can give up first round picks. What do
they need? I mean's And for the record, Matthew Golden,
the kid out of Texas again, it's going to take
him until week six, seven, eight nine. He's going to
be another track star. And here's the thing. Not only
did they blow out Detroit and I mean that game
(02:59):
last night, I couldn't believe it was a one score game.
In the fourth quarter, they were totally dominating it. The
Packers rolled and they were sloppy. I mean they got
to clean a lot of stuff up. They had ten penalties,
they were starting two backups on the offensive line. Micah
Parsons only took sixty eight snaps. And they have rolled
two very good rosters. And last year we like Green
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Bay a lot, but they struggled against the best teams.
They were zero and six against Philadelphia, Detroit, and Minnesota.
Yeah that's over. So the only time that Detroit and
Washington felt like they could compete was in the fourth quarter,
in its garbage time. So I mean this is they
have four different wide receivers. Green Bay does that according
to next Gen stabs run nineteen miles per hour or faster.
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Washington has one Deebo lookd twitchy, and they'll get their
offense in Washington. You know, McLaurin showed up late. But
I mean sometimes you just have to watch and just
be honest about it. No team in the league. How
often did Green Bay players pull away from Washington players?
(04:06):
It could be reverses, bubble screens. I mean, it's a
track team that tackles well. So Jordan Loves how nine
straight games regular season games? Think about this, and Jordan
Love is a risk taker. He has more far than
Aaron Rodgers. He's got he's got a big arm, and
he'll throw it and he'll throw it on the move.
He's an aggressive quarterback. And Matt Lafleur is a pretty
(04:29):
aggressive coach. And yet Jordan Love has got nine straight
regular season games without a turnover. And you know why
he's doing that because he figured it out. Just get
the ball to this speed group and they'll do the rest.
So I mean this is to me, this is hands
down the most impressive team I've seen in the NFL,
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and they're not paying anybody outside of Jordan Love. You know,
they're they're they're paying Mica, They're paying Jordan Love. They're
not paying a lot of people. So the future is
in incredibly bright. A lot of teams have to buy
free agents. You know, players are getting old and brittle.
Young players get hurt, but they return to action sooner.
So this team has so much depth at so many spots,
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and again, young players, young athletes recover quicker. I don't
see any liability here holding this team back from getting
to a super Bowl. To me, I don't see a flaw.
Just they got to clean some stuff up. They're sloppy,
starters don't play in the preseason. It's week two that
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you know. I don't take anything from the mistakes. They're
all easy to clean up. And here's Jordan Love on
the skill and speed that surrounds him.
Speaker 4 (05:44):
It's one of those things where you know, we had
a goal coming to the season to start the season
off fast and build on the things we've done last year.
And obviously I think we got a really good offense
and we've been talking about, you know, the sky's the
limit home. We got so many playmakers We're really deep
on offense, and I just got to find ways to
go out there and you know, executing against good defenses
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like them.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
So I think it's ironic that the Miami Dolphins, previously
the previous three years, the fastest team in the NFL,
had a player's only meeting yesterday. And this is really
the difference between Green Bay. When I think of Green Bay,
I think of stability and patience. When I think of
the Miami Dolphins, I think of shortcuts and flash And
(06:29):
I've said this for years. I do think teams tend
to embody the culture of the city. Like when I
was a young kid in the seventies, Pittsburgh was known
as like that's where you made steel, and the Steelers
were tough. Of course they were tough. Pittsburgh's were tough.
People in Pittsburgh were tough. They made steel for the
rest of the country. Miami's always been a flashy town
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and Dan Marino big arm, it been flashy. Miami's flashy.
You know, the last time they want a playoff game.
Dave Wanstat was a coach, great defense, great run game.
May want to get back to that. But it's interesting
watching and juxtaposing green Bay the fastest team in the
league where it jumps off the television how fast they are,
And it did for Miami for three years, but they
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did it through a trade and had to pay a
fortune for it. Green Bay is not paying any of
their fast guys. So this is the difference between you know,
structure and stability and shortcuts. And they always say there's
an old saying speed kills you know, you know, it
really kills bad GMing, bad coaching, lack of culture. It
makes even the fastest guys slower. And the fact they
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had a player's only meeting after the first week is
a danger sign football the basic ethos of football, and
it will always be true again the last playoff win
in Miami with a defensive coach, a run game and
a defense and time of possession. That football is built
on details and drafting and development and physicality and Miami's
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just not good at that. Now, if you can play
at elite speed on top of that, that's green Bay.
But you know, I'm watching the Packers last night and
I'm thinking, as I'm watching the game last night, this
is what Miami thought it would look like. We were
just gonna get the ball to the distributors run around. Yeah,
but you didn't have the coaching and the culture and
(08:18):
the patience. You know, that's the difference. And I'm not
picking on Miami because when they got Tyreek Hill and
Jaden Waddle, You're like, oh, this is gonna be crazy.
But it should be noted not only is Wan Stat
a defensive guy who loved the run game, the last
guy to win a playoff game there. When I think
of the Miami Heat in that flashy city, you know
what I think of d Wade's defense, Haslam's defense, Lebron's defense,
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Jimmy Butler's defense, pat Riley defense, Eric Spolstra defense. When
they were winning, like you know, back to back Eastern
Conference Championship series. When they're getting into those games, they
had a top three or four defense in the league.
So Miami may live in that crazy, flashy speedboat town,
but the core of Miami has always been long practices,
(09:03):
tough in physicality, and then Tyler hero can go hit
a three. But I you know, I just looked at
Green Bay and I thought this is what Miami thought
they would be. And they don't have the stability, and
they don't have the patients and they're having a player's
only meeting after week one. Yikes, here's two on the meeting.
Speaker 5 (09:27):
A lot of it has to do with communication, what
you want out of the guys, what the guys should
expect from you coming into a game like this week,
prior to the game that happened, from the performance that
I put out there, obviously it starts with me, but
with those guys, you know, just communicating to them what
our expectation is going into this week and being able
(09:48):
to move forward from that. You know, seventeen, we got
seventeen games that were you know, guaranteed that was one
of them.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
It's a long season a half that, it certainly is.
Tom Brady was on the show yesterday and Tom Brady
had a lot to say and a very brutally honest
takedown of some bad coaching and bad quarterback play in
the NFL. And we will talk about that coming up next.
Speaker 6 (10:14):
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Speaker 1 (11:07):
All right, we have Blazing five forty five minutes from now.
Urban Meyer stops by today. Dave wanstad'lbe in studio here,
former Bears coach that Bears Lions one o'clock window game
is going to get a number. That's the NFL is
on a heater in terms of ratings. That's going to
get a number. That's fascinating. I had Tom Brady on
(11:28):
the show yesterday and I said, Tom, you grew up
in a different generation. All these quarterbacks now had personal
coaches seven on seven summer camps. They have ten thousand
snaps by the time they're thirteen years old the five
times the snaps a quarterback had twenty thirty years ago
coming out of high school or college. And so is
it fair, I asked Tom Brady, is it fair by
(11:49):
Thanksgiving of this year, Thanksgiving of year two, that you
can make a definitive statement if Caleb Williams isn't good
enough to just move on.
Speaker 8 (12:00):
There's a lot of people who have no idea what
they're doing when they're tasked with coaching a quarterback or
calling an offense. So are you saying, I mean, just
like we'd rank quarterbacks one to thirty two, do you
rank offensive coordinators one to thirty two? What if you're
a quarterback, then you go to a system and they
don't teach you coverage. They don't teach you cover one,
they don't teach you cover two, they don't teach you
(12:21):
cover four, they don't have personnel meetings. They give you
an offensive game plan and they go all right, but
here you go figure it out, and after Thanksgiving of
your second year, they're going, man, this guy just can't
play anymore well.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
And this is a point Brady has made on my
show multiple times in two years. As a lot of people,
even some of the good coaches like Mike Tomlin, and
they're not great with quarterback play, like they just don't
have a feel for it. So and we were sitting
down this morning and I said, if you gave me
(12:53):
a circle of trust of teams in this league that
I'm absolutely sure would get the most out of any
quarterback they would draft or sign. I came up with
seven teams. Now, that doesn't mean Buffalo didn't have good coaches,
but Josh Allen would have succeeded anywhere. It doesn't mean
Baltimore doesn't have good coaches, but Lamar Jackson such a
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unique special talent. I think he would have had success anywhere.
But I would say Chargers with Harball, Andy Reid and
the Chiefs Sean Payton and Denver Green Bay, San Francisco
with Shanahan McVeigh and Kevin O'Connell. That's kind of my
quarterback development circle of trust. Again, that doesn't mean Baltimore
isn't a great organization. I've argued it maybe the best
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top to bottom, but I think John Harball comes more
of a defense special teams background, and I think Lamar
was such a unique talent just he was gonna gain yards.
It just didn't matter who got him, he was going
to have some success. That's one fifth of the league,
like those McVeigh, Shanahan, Kevin O'Connell. You say, oh, oh,
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what about Joe Burrow. You don't think Joe Burrell would
be better in San Francisco. LA really had better ownership,
better allions. I mean, Baker Mayfield has had ten offensive
coordinators already in the NFL. It's They're just a lot
of bounce around coaches in this league. And Baker's flourished now.
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So credit to Darnold and Gino and Baker who've had
multiple coaches, multiple teams, multiple quarterbacks and they're still flourishing.
They deserve a ton of credit. But the circle of
trust in this league. And then you could say, well,
what did the Niners do with the Trey Lance? Well,
Trey Lance isn't viewed as a franchise quarterback by anybody
in the league. There are some players you're not going
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to take to a next level because they're just not
that guy. I don't think Mac Jones is a franchise quarterback.
He'll be okay with Kyle Shanahan because he's okay, But
there are not many places in this league to Tom's point,
where you can put a quarterback and you're like, yeah,
they'll get the most out of him. I mean, go
back to what Sean McVay did with one practice. Remember
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that with Baker Mayfield. One practice and I think it
was a Monday night game. I could be wrong, but
he brought him in with one practice and if I recall,
Baker had like a game winning drive late. Remember what
Kevin O'Connell did in Minnesota. He brought in a very
smart kid, the kids very smart, Josh Dobbs, no practices,
and Josh Dobbs had a great game with no practices.
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There are just eight there are. I mean, there are
just very few teams in this league that I think, yeah,
they'll they'll get the quarterback, they'll get the most out
of it. And that's why I think with Caleb Williams,
I thought last year was the worst situation any young
quarterback could go into Chicago, defensive coach on the hot
seat and a loud media that was going to get
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really ugly if things went sideway fast. At least now
with Ben Johnson, I feel like Caleb with a rebuilt
O line and Ben Johnson, Caleb if he doesn't seed,
it's not in the organization. They've given him a fair
chance to succeed. With Ben and the rebuilt offensive land.
They got nice weapons, Roam A Dunze, DJ Moore, Cole
Comet Loveland from Michigan. I mean, they got swift, They
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got real real players now in real offensive coaches. But
Brady's been on this for two years and not everybody
knows what they're doing with quarterbacks. And it's weird because
it is the most by a mile, not even close,
the most important position in the entire sport, and about
a seventh of the league. I trust with it, a
fifth of the league. Maybe I trust with the position.
J Mack with the news.
Speaker 4 (16:34):
No, no, no, the news.
Speaker 6 (16:37):
This is the herdline news.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
All right, Coln.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
Let's start with a great matchup in Pittsburgh this weekend.
Seattle travels to Pittsburgh to face Aaron Rodgers and the Steelers. Yeah,
you know, a big narrative around, Hey, Rogers had four touchdowns,
he's back. I don't know O. C Arthur Smith is
pushing back on some narratives that are negative against Rogers.
There's a lot of miscons exceptions at times, but he's
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one of the best leaders I've been around. He's authentic.
Aaron Rodgers one win and now everybody it's kumbaya with that.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
Well, let's be fair. Four touchdowns. It is interesting, though,
that you can look sometimes at a quarterback's numbers. I
told you I thought rock Party that was the most
I ever had been impressed with brock perty and he
threw two picks. You gotta be careful about the data.
PFF ranked Aaron Rodgers fourth. I saw the number here.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
Hold on, well, listen, he had a couple hit some
good numbers.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
No, but it was interesting what PFF had him grated
as I think. PFF, yeah it was. Aaron was the
fifth lowest quarterback in Week one according to PFF. It's
the lowest. Yeah. So this idea that it's all this
quored a bunch of Pittsburgh was a mirage in Week one.
First of all, their defense will be much better against Seattle.
They get all these new pieces, So Pittsburgh's defense is
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not that bad. It's going to be much better against
the Seahawks. And Aaron is not going to go four
touchdowns and no picks and have that time to throw.
He's not like he did last week against the Jets.
The Seahawks defense has got the same coaching staff from
last year. It is young, it is fast. Aaron just
stats and scoreboard can be way over valued.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
I totally agree Colin and I actually think that we're
wrong on the scoreboard. I don't again, five years ago,
Aaron Rodgers mattered. I personally don't think people are interested
in Aaron Rodgers in twenty twenty five. Yeah, the year,
he's just not that interesting anymore. And like we could
take sample size. Oh look online people are talking about him.
He's not like a top ten or interesting quarterback in
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the league.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
And that's because, well, we're in the golden age of
quarterbacks in my lifetime. You watched Jordan Love last night.
We don't even put Jordan when we talk top ten quarterbacks,
we don't naturally put Jordan Love in it.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
Oh, he's definitely ahead of Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
That's not even that's not even debatable. But my point
is we have so many good quarterbacks now that we
don't put Dak or Jordan Love in the top ten.
And go watch what they've looked like through three starts.
Between those two, they've been incredible. The quality of quarterback
play right now is insane in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
I'm actually more interested to see how Sam Darnold does
in this spot. Pittsburgh's a little beat up on the
defense coming off that Jets game, and I.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Think it's going to be a close twenty seventeen football game.
I think it's going to look a lot like San
Francisco and Seattle. It's going to look a lot like that.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
So but my thing about Donald, I know he's your
guy obviously the USC Ties. He was great last year
for Kevin O'Connell and ad Justin Jefferson. Now you downshift
in Seattle and you don't have that. And I just wonder, Colin,
if he doesn't show well here this weekend, are you off?
Remember you had Seattle? I think winning the division or
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second going to the plass. Does this give you pause?
If they lose back to back games to start the no.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
I have him as a wildcard team. I think he
went from Kevin O'Connell, which is offensive, creative coach and
all sorts of offensive skill, to Seattle, which has their
best players on defense, does not have a true number
one and has a defensive coach. So I think Seattle
is kind of the opposite of Minnesota in terms of
culture and offense and how they view the world. Seattle
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ran fifty two percent of their plays last week, and
I thought that was lower. I thought they'd be almost
a fifty five percent run team. Seattle wants to gobble
up the line, run the ball, speed the game up,
and be attacking on defense. So I think what you're
gonna see the Steelers defense is going to come to play.
They're going to play much better. They're at home, they
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can't play worse. And Seattle is going to just try
to pound it out, run game, put Darnold in very
few positions to fail. I think it's a very close,
very low scoring game.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
I totally agree. Let's go to Monday night football beat
Carolyn Jim Harball. You know they have a long rivalry.
Apparently they're six and six head to head, and they
you know, they used to meet in the PAC twelve
way back in the day. Monday, the Raiders host the
Chargers and the rivalry will be renewed. Here are the
coaches talking about matching up once again.
Speaker 6 (21:06):
I remember, Jim, no, I have no fun members. I'm good.
That's great games. It have been great games.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
That's all.
Speaker 9 (21:15):
That's pretty well documented. And he was a great coach,
you know, one of the one of the best, and
it's a.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
Lot of respect.
Speaker 6 (21:31):
You know.
Speaker 9 (21:31):
I always think that had I ever played, you know,
for him, you know, on one of his teams, uh,
because he was coaching when I was playing, and or
Arizona staff once I got into coaching, I bet we
would have been really good friends.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
Yeah. I remember when Harbaugh took a Stanford team into US.
He is a forty point dog.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
I remember that.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
That's it was probably the upset of the decade at
the time. Before didn't app State beat Michigan after that
at some point.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
But they did beat Michigan.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
Yeah, yeah, but I mean I remember that game, and
it was the Stanford stuff. Stanford was a mess when
he took it over, and they became an incredibly tough,
physical team with Andrew Luck. But I mean, these guys
are different personalities, but you know what, they both aged well.
Hardbaugh's chilled out. I mean he's kind of chilled, and
he was much more intense. He's more laid back and
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chill now. And Pete has aged incredibly well because he
has the most insane energy I've ever seen by anyone. Yeah,
I mean Pete is just working that gum like he's
thirty two years old. So I mean, you know, oh,
they happened a month apart. Is that true? The staff
says APP State Michigan USC, right, But I mean, I
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just I think both these guys are a testament to aging. Well,
they're obsessed with football and it shows.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
Yeah. In regard to the matchup, Patriots slot receivers destroyed
the Raiders. Their cornerback was one of the worst opening weeks.
Ladi mcconkee is going to eat on Monday night. I
like the charges big in that one.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
Kyll theway Michigan State Michigan lost to app State September
two thousand and seven October Stanford USC. So they were
literally those are the two that year. You had two
of the biggest upsets I can ever remember in college
football that.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
Kim believe that was eighteen years ago and you remembered it.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
Yeah, I know, I remember it scary and I remember
the app State Michigan game. I think there was a
field goal that played a part late in the game.
As a long time ago, but yeah, crazy year.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
Yeah, I don't remember what I had for dinner Tuesday night.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
All right, let's go.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
Final story is the New York Giants obviously were terrible
in Week one, could get no offense. Started with Russell
Wilson under center. Sunday on Fox, they faced the Cowboys,
and there's a lot of chatter about Jackson Dart, but
Russell Wilson is not phased. Here'says confidence level entering week two.
Speaker 10 (23:54):
I think that you you embraced challenge. You know. I
don't think I've run from challenges. I don't think I've
run from you know anything. I know confident. I am
in myself, confident in the guys that we have. I
think for me personally, you know, my confidence never blinks,
you know. I just I've been through everything. You know,
I've been through all the biggest highs there could be.
I've been through a few lows. At the same time,
I also know that I'm my confidence never waivers.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
And yeah, I don't think he loses confidence. I think
what he's lost is elusiveness. And I think that was
the secret sauce. I mean, listen, Nolan Ryan could throw
a curve, but if his fastball got down to ninety two,
He's not Nolan Ryan like you know it didn't. But
that's the reality of what he is. Russell made a
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living on being elusive, and when he lost that ability
to do that. He was never an elite pocket guy.
He was good at running around and good over the
top on those rainbow throws. But I mean, you and
I have talked about this. In my lifetime. I do
not remember a quarterback going from Pro Bowl to what
I viewed the last four years. It's not like he
doesn't work hard, but his game was so uniquely elusive.
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He wasn't a burner. He just had this ability, like
a kid running through a mall around people like. He
had this ability to make people miss and then all
of a sudden, now they don't miss, and there's not
a lot there because he's not a great pocket quarterback.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
Right, two quick ones A, Is Russell Wilson a Hall
of Famer? No? No, I think it's so fine. If
Marshawn Lynch he actually carries the football and scores a touchdown,
he has.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
Two Super Bowls? Is he a Hall of Famer? Then
you're asking me if he's a Hall of Famer. I
didn't say he wouldn't get votes. No, No, would you
vote in it. That's not no, I know, but I think,
but I think you can put him on a ballot.
I mean, but I don't think it is. I don't think.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
Okay, yeah, and then the second one. Will Jackson Dark
take a snap this week against Dallas Yesterda.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
No, No, because I think it'll be a close game
and it's a division game, and I think you have
to you have to play that. You got to give Russell.
I think if they trail like fourteen nothing in half
and aren't moving the ball, yeah, I think you think
about it walking to the locker room. But I and
I said before, I think you got to play Jackson
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Dart very soon. I think. I don't think Brian Dabole
wants to bail after six quarters, you know, so, I
think they'll give him eight corters.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
Shart.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
See where you're at, and you may not have a choice.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
Colin Dables on the hot seat. How long you want
to wait before you, Hey, we got to get this
guy shot. I'm cooked if Russ keeps this up. I
like the Cowboys and Survivor this week. I know you're
not a huge Survivor player, but I think the Cowboys
are winning this game. I don't see them losing it
there in all my teasers. Is there any world where
the Giants win this colin?
Speaker 1 (26:38):
That's funny. So my most assured pick in week one
almost backfired. Philadelphia I thought would beat Dallas. That was
a luck. So I can't use Philadelphia in week two.
Who would I use in that shirt? But I'm gonna
tell you something. Even by week two, it gets tricky.
It depends that Baltimore Ravens are favored by like twelve.
I would say Arizona. I'd use my Arizona pair, Arizona
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at home against Carolina. If I was in a survival pool,
that would probably be my pick.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
Well, I'm in multiple and sometimes multiple entries, so yes,
that's another.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
Pick of mine. Jmack with the news, Well that's the news,
and thanks for stopping by the herd Line News. So
I was saying this with the Packers, just trust your eyes.
That is the fastest team in the league. The Kansas
City Chiefs, trust your eyes. They're not a very good
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offensive football team. The run game, below average, offensive line
well below average. If Xavier Worthy doesn't play, they don't
have a number one receiver, and if he does, he's
still not a number one receiver. He's more of a
gadget guy in a two. So the Chiefs offense since
twenty twenty three, this is hard to get your brain
around because it was so good early. The first five
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or six years was so dynamic. But they're like middle
of the pack, twenty third in rushing, twenty seventh in
big plays, eighteen in red zone percentage. And that's with
Mahomes and Andy Reid. So if Mahomes and Andy Reid
can't do better than eighteenth in red zone efficiency, I
mean these are guys that dialed up Sky Moore in
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the Super Bowl to be wide open for touchdowns. So
I mean last year they were thirty first in the
NFL in big plays and they had the fewest rushes
of over ten yards. So it's one of those things.
I was joking this morning that I remember a show
came out called True Detective, and it had eight episodes
and there was twelve Emmy nominations, and it was just unbelievable.
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It became my favorite show. Matthew McConaughey, Woody Harrelson, and
so I could not wait for year two and I
was just like, every episode has been unbelievable and by
the middle of the second episode of Year two, I
was like, yeah, it's not very good. I'm gonna trust
my instincts on TV viowy they not very good. And
I feel like with Kansas City, they had so many
big years that you just sort of like, yeah, I mean,
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oh wow, they don't have any wow. There's there's not
a lot of wow there. They don't run the ball.
The old line is getting rebuilt again and yeah and again.
This is with the Reid Mahomes and a great GM
so they have they have hit on a lot of
defensive draft picks. But they may have the same name.
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But true Detective Year two wasn't the same show, and
it may be the chiefs Mahomes and Reid, it is
not the same show. Here's Brady yesterday on Mahomes trying
to carry the load right now in KC.
Speaker 8 (29:31):
When you control both sides of the line of scrimmage,
you have a huge opportunity for success, and it takes
someone like Patrick Mahomes to kind of have that Mahomes
magic and pull the rabbit out of his hat in
order to keep his team in the game. With the
rookie Simmons, with Sue Mattie who's in there is a
second round pick from last year, Creed Humphrey there and
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and Tray Smith at right guard. They're they're set up
to have a pretty good offensive line as they gel
and grow together. So that will be great for Patrick
to feel like he has some confidence to stand back there.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
But right now, when you watch them, trust your eyes.
He does not remember last year we talked about this.
Last year, Greg Cosell came on our show and I
asked Greg Cosell, I said, what is wrong with Kansas
City's offense? And do you remember what Greg Cosell? He
said it last year early in the season, week four
to five. He said, Patrick does not trust his own line.
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He doesn't trust it. You can watch his feet. He
doesn't trust it. So am I supposed to believe After
getting blown out by the Eagles in the Super Bowl
and getting beat by the Chargers and facing pressure, he
trusted now now that to Tom's point, he may trust
it in six weeks, but right now, trust what you're seeing.
There's no wow for an offense. That was the definition
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of wow the first five years, six years of mahomes
blazing five top of the hour, it's the Hurt.
Speaker 6 (30:58):
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Speaker 3 (31:04):
Play the Fox Super six NFL Challenge. Download the Fox
Sports app and enter for a free shot to win
your share of ten thousand dollars. One of the questions
is which QB will have the most passing yards in
Week two? Mahomes, Dak Goff or Caleb Colin.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
Who you got Jared Goff against the Bears?
Speaker 3 (31:30):
Good answer, Yeah, Jared Bear's secondary is getting cooked.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
Although I will say ceedee Lamb eats against the Giants.
He does, so. I've never bought into sophomore slumps. Mahomes
didn't have one, Peyton Manning was substantially better in year two,
Joe Burrow didn't have one, Lamar Jackson didn't have one.
Josh Allen got better year one a year two. I
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don't think Jayden Daniel is going to be a sophomore
slump guy because I think he has elements to his
personality and his makeup are that transcend slumps, IQ, maturity,
EQ poise. Those are slump proof power hitters in baseball,
they have slumps. Tony Gwinn hit four fifteen against Greg
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Maddox contact hitters like Tony gwyn not rereally slumpy. Steph
Curry sixteen years in the league thirty nine percent to
forty four percent. He didn't have slump years. He may
have a bad half. So I think Washington last night
ran into a Green and White buzzsaw. It was a
short week, they were on the road. Green Bay's the
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best team in the league. Green Bay's the fastest team
in the league, and Washington isn't. They have one receiver
that runs over nineteen miles an hour next gen stats.
Green Bay's got four and I think one of Green
Bay's most talented skilled players. Kraft is a kid. He'll
only get better and he's great now and golden out
of Texas. Again, it's his second NFL game, So they
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were a short week on the road, old team against
the young team. I don't worry about Jayden Daniels at all.
I think he's magnificent and here he is after.
Speaker 11 (33:15):
You got ten games on ten days to our next game.
So I didn't und to dwell about it. You know,
it's early in the season. I wouldn't expect them my
in this locker room to hit the panic button. We
placed we faced a really good team and we came
up short.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
They've got a new left tackle, Deebo's new chest piece,
McLaurin got into camp late. So I think just watching
Green Bay, I mean Detroit was a bulldozing run game,
and last week against the Packers, they couldn't move the ball.
So you see this sometimes where like you just see
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a team. I mean, wait till Mike is playing ninety
percent of the snaps. I mean Micah played forty eight
percent last week. He played sixty eight percent last night.
I mean, you watched these highlights were showing you on television.
Cream Bay's closing speed is everywhere and there, and you know,
the faster we are, the more aggressive you are. The
Packers are super aggressive, and I just don't think Washington
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knew what they were in for. So I saw this
fifteen years ago. I was doing this show on radio,
and I made a pivot. So I was at the
other place, and I was about four or five years
into my career at the other place, and I was
in the gym, and after my workout, I ran into
a senior manager at the other place and we were
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talking about we both liked business and kind of the
architecture of radio and TV, and we were talking about
behind the scenes boring stuff and it wasn't boring to us.
And that person said at ESPN, I would never say
this out loud, but baseball's a regional and local sport,
and he said it's hard to do as a national
network because people in New York don't really necessarily care
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about the a's of the Mariners, and people in Seattle
don't care about the Texas Rangers or the Rays. But
a Seahawks fan would watch the Buccaneers, and a Charger
fan would absolutely watch the Vikings. But would a Podrey
fan care about the Twins. It's a local, regional sport.
And so at that time I made a pivot that
I was going to talk about pro football about seventy
percent of my show, which seems crazy, but I always
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argued that if I was in London doing a show,
seventy five percent of my show would be the English
Premier League. If I was in Canada, I'd have to
leave because seventy five percent of my show would have
to be hockey. So I would I would move somewhere,
no disrespect. They go to Canada every other summer, So
I just saw the numbers for the NFL right now,
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and the reality is NFL Week one viewership is off
to a massive start. And I think what's happening. As
the platforms have increased in America, there's just more places,
more streaming outlets, more TikTok as it's gotten wider. There
is only one thing in this country that transcends all
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of it and can get people away from their phones.
It's politics and presidential election years every four years. That'll
get people off their phones. And it's the NFL, not
even sports. The NFL top one hundred shows last year,
ninety four were football. So I I just it's funny
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I hear all these discussions. This cracks me up. Hey,
let's do a red zone in baseball. We could do
a red zone in college football, do a red zone
in hockey. You do get what makes the red zone great.
It's not the name red zone. And I love Scott Hansen,
but it's not the host. It's the National Football League.
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It works because of the NFL, regardless of the host,
and he's terrific, and regardless of the name, the red
zone works because of the NFL. It's not gonna work
for any other sport, so you can try it, but
there's an urgent to it. And it was funny this
week Adam Silver, who I think is really good at
what he does, Adam Silver admitted he said, we're kind
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of a highlight league. People watch us in highlights, and
David Stern, before his death privately would tell people, listen,
people watch us in the playoffs, but mostly they watch
our highlights because NBA players are such great athletes. The
highlights are so much fun to watch. But the only sport,
according to every piece of data, that we really sit down,
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get off our phones and watch is Sunday in the NFL.
That's it. And this weekend Eagles Chiefs. From what I'm
hearing on Fox, we think it's going to set an
NFL potential NFL playoff record if it's close. I do
think it's close. I think the Chiefs got so humiliated
in the Super Bowl that I think there's going to
be so much pride and so much resilience, and the
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Chiefs have too many smart people in the building and
they have a very good defense. I think it's going
to be a pretty low scoring game, and I think
Kansas City's go to keep it close. But you know,
Philadelphia is so good on third down and so good
on fourth down. You're gonna have those circumstantial situational plays
in the game that I think just Philadelphia is so
good at They're gonna get the fourth down, They're gonna
pick up the red zone first down, and Kansas City
is struggling with that. But I do think it's a
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close game. But week one of the NFL viewership unbelievable.
I have blazing five at the top of the hour,
J Max got his picks? Is there? I want to
put up the schedule because I always ask you this,
J Mack. We have an upset in every week now.
Last week Tennessee almost upset Denver, and last week Dallas,
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if not for the Ceedee Lamb drop, almost upset Philadelphia.
So last week it was a lot of favorites. There
were close games, but it wasn't the massive upset. Is
there anything in this schedule? So Green Bay was a
favorite last night and they housed Washington. I think you
and I believe, I think both of us believe. With
Brock Purty out, the Saints have a chance at home
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to beat San Francisco. Is at fair You don't think so.
Speaker 3 (39:00):
I'm on Niners there. I basically bet three games pretty
heavily this week Texans Monday Night Football, Detroit Lions against
your Bears, and then the one underdog. We both like
Tennessee Titans getting six and five and a half based
on the Rams injury report. The Titans defense, which I
like a lot, and I think we agree cam Wards
showed much better than the final stat line. I think
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his receivers had four or five drops, and I think
there could be a letdown for the Rams they have.
I believe it's the Eagles on deck next week, or
they have a tough opponent next week.
Speaker 6 (39:30):
I like the.
Speaker 3 (39:31):
Titans as a dog that could win out right.
Speaker 1 (39:33):
By the way, what do you make a Raiders? Chargers?
Raiders at home, Chargers from Brazil, Chargers still, you know
they'll have some questions on that old line.
Speaker 3 (39:42):
I'm gonna rock with the Chargers on the road. My
brother will be at that game. Invited me, but I
was like, listen, I got this little show to do
called the Herd. You know Jeffrey, so I can't quite
make it, but he'll be in Vegas for that one.
Should be a good game.
Speaker 1 (39:53):
I like Chargers, Yeah, yeah, it's yeah, there's you know
what's interesting. The Raiders and the Jags pulled off wins
in Week one, and so do you trust the Raiders?
Do you trust the Jags? It's you know, like I
think like certain things that we saw in week one
will not be true. Like the Steelers defense is not
(40:16):
that bad. They got new pieces here, older players by
the way they brought in, don't play in the preseason.
The Steelers defense is not going to look like that
going forward. I am mischell. I don't think justin Fields
is going to look like that going forward. Like certain
things I think are true that I think you can
take certain things like Green Bay. They're really fast, They're
(40:39):
really aggressive, they have a ton of speed. That is
a fact. Detroit their coaching is not as good as
last year, that is a fact. Pittsburgh's defense will not
look like that this week or going forward. It won't
look that pathetic.
Speaker 3 (40:52):
How about the Colts and Steichen and Daniel Jones? Will
they look that good against Denver? I've been looking at
that game a lot. Colin here that blazing five, Oh yeah,
it's in my blazing five.
Speaker 1 (41:01):
I mean, let's be honest, Miami, and I don't know
if you can quit, but defensively Miami felt like they quit.
Not offensively, but you're gonna go from the most disorganized
defense in the league. In Week one, Daniel Jones and
the Colts faced to I think easily the best pass
rush in the league. And by the way, as Sean
(41:23):
Paige Noahs said, the best time to coach a team
is when you play like crap and win, he goes,
you can ride your players. That next week, Denver played
poorly and won. Yeah, so watch watch Denver come out
on fire. I'm gonna tell you that pass rush it
is a sea of orange.
Speaker 3 (41:45):
We like a lot of the same games this week,
I think Blazing five next to Herd
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