Colin Cowherd breaks down why the Chiefs proved they're still the team to beat after a dominant win over the Detroit Lions
The 49ers can't seem to stay healthy and so far this season Baker Mayfield is playing like a MVP
Thoughts on the Chargers win over the Dolphins and why Justin Herbert is simply better than Tua Tagovailoa
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Speaker 1 (00:26):
Here we go our number one. I'm not sure we
can get all this show into the next three hours.
We are live. We are in Chicago, and it is
The Herd one hour from now. Where Colin was right,
where Colin was wrong. I don't think we should waste
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any time. Everybody's worst nightmare is now official. The Kansas
City Chiefs once again are the best team in professional football.
First three weeks, Mahomes was wobbly, they were averaging twenty
points a game, and in their last three games they
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are now averaging thirty two points. Along with that defense
and along with those special teams. Sorry NFL, they did
it again. Kansas City only Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes.
They're the only people in this league that can take
number two and number three wide receivers. They can take
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Hollywood Brown and Jude ju Smith, Schuster and back up
left tackles and okay, running backs and get into the thirties.
Xavier Worthy with any other team, would he be this good.
All they do is make it work. Andy Reid is
the great chef, He's the Gordon Ramsey. Everything in the
kitchen has a role. Let's just keep tinkering. Let's keep
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figuring out a way to make everything work. Put it
into our eCos system, and let's make it flourish. By
the way, this is what Kansas City does every year
when you get into these big games. They play differently.
No penalties, no turnovers, one punt, whine all you want
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about the penalties. Well coached teams Belichick and Brady that
is for years they don't turn it over, and they
don't get penalized, and they don't pump much. The NFL
seasons are incredibly long. You can't overreact to zero to
two or three and three again. Get people healthy, make
everybody count in the kitchen. Three weeks ago, when they
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beat Baltimore, everybody said, well the Ravens are beat up. Yeah,
right now, so is Tampa, so is San Francisco. A
lot of teams in the NFL are beat up doesn't
matter with this defense, this play calling, people get distracted.
The NBA is about talent and appeasing the star. The
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NFL is about the on line, the defense coordinator, about
the entire system, and it's about the culture. This is
a locker room of fifty three guys, not five that
really really truly matter. And here's Kansas City. They keep tweaking.
Add a little salt, make everything in the kitchen work.
Prime example last night when they're offensive limp. The first
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couple of weeks offensive line it was messy, It was
not very good. They had no running game. O line
was bad last night despite the Detroit Lions having a
ten minute opening drive, Kansas City one time of possession
with this offensive line that was a bit chaotic and
a bit messy five weeks ago. And I know you
don't want to hear it, but Rashi Rice is coming back.
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The receiving corp Now, all right? Were these a two
juju Smith Schuster's a three Hollywood brown as a gadget four?
Oh that's a and with Mahomes and Reid pulling the levers,
that is a way above average receiving court. Travis Kelcey
again in a big spot he arrives. So this is
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what Kansas City does. First three weeks, very choppy. Last
three games thirty two a game. And Detroit's a really
good team, but they were so focused last night. Here's
Patrick Mahomes on being the youngest quarterback to ever get
to three hundred touchdown passes.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
It's extremely cool. I mean, I've been blessed. I always
say it, and I mean it like I've been blessed,
like I drafted here in Kansas City, a great community,
great ownership, and then getting one of the best football
coaches of all time and some of the greatest players
of all.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
Time around me.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
And so it makes my job a lot easier when
I'm going to throw to some great ones. And let's
keep let's continue it, let's have some fun, and we've
got a long career ahead, and we'll see how we
can get to.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
That's the best team in the NFL right now, Kansas
City Chiefs, one punt, no turnovers, no penalties, dominating an
excellent Detroit Lions team. Okay, so the last couple of weeks,
Baker Mayfield has had to go on the road out
West Seattle, San Francisco. Good teams and in both games,
Baker Mayfield was the difference. He's missing Mike Evans and
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Chris Godwin and Bucky Irving a Mecca. Buca got hurt
in the game. Baker willed his team to a w.
As you guys all know, this league is about toughness
and resilience. Don't be a victim. Deal with it. Baker's
not the biggest, He's only six to one. He's not
the most athletic, but his fight picking up that first
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down on the run is a plus plus. The dude
was missing his top four receivers. Instead, he needed Tez
Johnson heck of a catch and Cameron Johnson, who was
an undrafted D two athlete that was his receiving corps
and both caught their first career NFL touchdowns. Baker Mayfield
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a lot of these quarterbacks, I don't even need to
name them. They get coordinators fired, Baker Mayfield's last two coordinators,
he got head coaching jobs. And again, there's a quality
that Baker Mayfield has that I wish everybody in America had.
He just not everything has to be perfect. He never
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plays the victim. It's like, what do I gotta work with?
All Right? Let's go that. He's never pointing fingers. Bakers like,
get on my back. This is a guy pulling. He's
pulling a team right now. They are a mess. Offensively,
they are falling out. He's using D two receivers and
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he's beating Seattle in Seattle. You see what Seattle did
on the road yesterday. You see what Seattle did. Are
the Steelers this year? He's beating San Francisco. All I hear, well,
brock Pertes, guys are injured. Baker's like, yeah, what evs,
let's go. I don't think right now that Tampa Bay
roster because I think of the second best team in
the NFL to Kansas City. But their rosters so beat up.
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It's not a top ten roster. They're missing great players.
Pedal to the medal, head down, don'ts. Tampa's now five
and one big win after big win with Baker Mayfield.
His resilience is completely contagious and redeemable, and here he
was after another on the road.
Speaker 5 (07:15):
I truly genuinely trust the guys that are in there.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
They're ready.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
We talked throughout the week.
Speaker 5 (07:20):
Guys are on the same page, and that's real. I
trust these guys, even though some of them might not
have played a whole lot of ball. But we're four
on the same page. Good things happen. You don't have
to have the perfect play when all your guys are
fighting for each other and are on the same page.
And that's an example of that defense played great special
teams as well, And so that's complimentary football.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
All right. Right now, Baker Mayfield, I think he's got
everybody's vote as the most valuable player to do it
with that beleaguered roster on the road, beating good teams,
beating really good defensive minds or defensive coordinators. Feel terrible
for San Francisco. Fred Warner's now injured. The whole team
is falling apart physically, all their stars. But that's you know,
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we often asked ourselves, you know, what's a franchise quarterback?
What's the difference? The difference is when things aren't right.
I hear this all the time. Well, I mean, yeah,
you hear it from you know, for years and years. Well,
you know, we don't have Caleb's missing this, or Jackson
Dart was missing that. Baker's missing everything. He's on the
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road Seattle and San Francisco, were good, and he's willing
his team to win. He may not be the best athlete,
but on that one run he looked like it. That's
what a franchise quarterback is. You don't have your best
running back, you don't have your top three wide receivers,
you got a defensive coach, so it's your offense. That's
what an MVP looks like. That's what a franchise quarterback
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looks like. It took Baker a while to get there
from Cleveland and Carolina and Los Angeles. Took him a
while to get there. Who cares some careers, You gotta
let him bake. But fantastic performance. Yeah, that was great.
J Mack gotta say this, by the way, that was
that was in Tampa? Was it in Tampa? Samford said,
I watched so many damn games yesterday.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
Yeah, I was in Tampa.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
Say my bad, My bad on that, folks, My bad.
That wasn't it was in Tampa. I got I watched
thirteen games yesterday and nine the day before. I'm lost.
But I mean, the truth of the matter is Saul
is a great defensive coordinator. To go to Seattle, you're
facing McDonald. I mean, look what he did the Trevor
Lawrence yesterday. You're talking about facing the best coordinators, smart,
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young defensive guys, pass rushes, and for him to go
out there and pull that stuff is unbelievable.
Speaker 6 (09:33):
I mean, I think I saw stat after Fred Warner
went out Colin the Bucks average like seven point four
yards per place, something insane. Without Warner, the Niners have nothing,
no Bosa, no Warner. So I'm pumping the brakes on Baker.
He was fantastic again yesterday. Oh my god, he's phenomenal.
You could argue he's been the best quarterback in the
NFL this season.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
No, I don't even I don't even think. I think
you have to. You have to consider everything. You have
to consider it. You got to consider what you have.
I mean, the Seattle win shocked this. I think you
and I thought it was our second favorite bet of
the weekend. By the way, how'd you I went? Fourn
Oh yesterday? How'd you do?
Speaker 4 (10:06):
Two and two? Waiting on one more tonight?
Speaker 1 (10:08):
I've got Washington tonight at home over Chicago. Bears don't
travel particularly well. I'm not sure if you caught this.
The Mariners, your guy Cal Ray, Well, all right, we've
got a lot to talk about. Speaking of quarterback play,
Justin Herbert, I thought that the Baker run may have
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been the play of the day. How about the Justin
Herbert play to get the ball to Lad McConkey when
we come back. That is all time stuff. We talk
about this all the time. I like traits with quarterbacks.
I like big, strong guys over small guys. And by
the way, Baker's not the biggest guy, but he makes
he plays bigger than himself, right, bigger than his size.
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What Justin Herbert did yesterday and one play, I looked
at it this morning on social media, switching hands during
the play. We'll get to that. Plus Aaron Rodgers only compliments.
Dodgers are playing tonight. We have got ourselves this next week,
the next four or five days are as good as
America gets for sports. Oh yeah, James Franklin got fired.
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I don't know what to do with that.
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All right, Well, come back. This is going to be
an all time week Dodgers tonight and tomorrow against the
Brewers who escaped the Cubs. Mariners take a one to
zero lead on the Blue Jays. All right. So, of
the many bad decisions the Miami Dolphins have made over
the last decade, one of them was on display yesterday,
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drafting Tua over Justin Herbert. When they're on the same field,
you kind of see the difference to a small, not
terribly athletic, doesn't have a big arm three picks Herbert's
unbelievable six to six, tough, strong, physical moves. Top NFL
quarterbacks need to rise above their circumstances and TWA needs
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everything to be perfect. Herbert had no number one receiver,
three backups on the offensive line, the number three or
number four running back, and justin Herbert made a play
in this game. It wasn't just game saving. It may
have been season saving. As Herbert again, backups everywhere, old
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keenan Allen, that's what he has to work with. But
he may have played a Ladd mcconkee where he switched
hands with the ball again on the road, backups everywhere.
Season it felt like season on the switches hands finds
mcconkee again. That is rising above the circumstances, which were
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terrible for this team, shedding two hundred and fifty pound
guys or more, seventy six percent completion percentage, two touchdowns,
one hundred and twelve passer rating, backups behind him, backups
to the sidelines, backups in front of him. Jim Harbaugh afterwards,
talking about that played to Ladd mcconkee thirty minutes later,
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could hardly believe what he saw I play.
Speaker 8 (13:55):
I'd be burning my mind for t They throw dirt
over top of me. Yeah, Herbert back to throw defender
wrapped around him, you know, he's able to just a
mighty man it and shake it off and Hitler mconkeye.
You know, on a physical level, it just can't really
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be done by many. You know, just a couple, you know,
just a couple, a handful of guys really that could
do that.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
So it was Harbaugh who took McConkey out of Georgia.
Great slot receiver. He has been unbelievably valuable his first
couple of years with the Chargers. But again it's like
Baker Mayfield, you gotta rise above the circumstances, don't be
a victim, get it done, put your helmet on. Doesn't
matter where we're playing. That was probably the play of
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the day, Baker Mayfield's run for a first down and
Herbert escaping that sack. That's what franchise quarterbacks do. Don't
point fingers. All right, let's go, we're trailing on the road.
Saddle up. J Mack with the news. No, no, no,
turn on the news.
Speaker 4 (15:06):
This is the headline news.
Speaker 6 (15:09):
All right, Colin, Let's get started with your new number
one team.
Speaker 4 (15:12):
In the NFL, the Kansas City Chiefs.
Speaker 6 (15:14):
It was an incident last night after the game. Brian
Branch of the Lions really talented safety got ticked off
Isaiah Pacheco's talking trash.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
He refuses to shake Mahomes' hand and then.
Speaker 6 (15:24):
Goes up and just wax Juju Smith Schuster in the face. Now,
at the time, nobody had any idea what was going on,
why it happened. You could see this turns into a
big time brawl. Branch is basically ready to fight the
whole team. Colin, Now, I have gone back and found
the reason that Branch went after Juju, and Juju Smith
Schuster did block him in the back illegally. It was
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a dirty hit, but that's no reason to lose your
mind anyway. Here's Dan Campbell afterward talking about how Brian
Branch's actions were unnecessary.
Speaker 10 (15:54):
Let me start with this. I love Brown Branch, but
what he did is excusable and it's not going to
be accepted here. It's not what we do, it's not
what we're about. I apologize to uh Coach Reid and
the chiefs and uh you know and Shuster. That's not okay.
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That's not what we do here, and it's not going
to be okay. He knows that our team knows it,
and uh so that's that's that's not what we do.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Yeah, I mean, emotional intelligence is really important, and people
get ticked off. You got to learn to cope. That's
the reality. Game's over. I don't know if he'd be suspended.
He'll be fine.
Speaker 4 (16:34):
I'm not sure, probably will be Colin. This is not good.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
He's a great player. I love him as a player,
but you just can't do that. Got to grow up.
Speaker 6 (16:40):
Yeah, their secondary already stinks. They face Baker Mayfield next,
so that would be it. That would be a punit
of suspension.
Speaker 4 (16:47):
Now, wast it? You and I have played sports.
Speaker 6 (16:49):
We know in the key of the moment your mind.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
I get it.
Speaker 4 (16:52):
It's it's tough.
Speaker 6 (16:53):
Somebody's got to reel them in or he's got to
just know.
Speaker 4 (16:55):
I can't do that. Juju didn't kind of hit him
with the chief shop it again. It's no excuse for that.
Just a quick question. Are you sure the.
Speaker 6 (17:04):
Chiefs beating the Lions makes them in the number one
team I didn't shine in earlier.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
It's not that they beat them, it's that they controlled them.
And they don't have Rashi Rice yet, and they didn't
have they didn't have their offensive line all settled last night.
They're getting they're getting their left tackle, they're getting Rashee Rice.
This team's dropping now thirty we watched Detroit really, I
mean just dismember teams. It was just up and down
the field, dominate time of possession. The Chiefs one time
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of possession and that's after the Lions had a ten
minute first drive. That's impressive. So they didn't have their
offensive line or Rashee Rice. I'm telling you, man, Patrick Mahomes,
it's hard to explain. I remember hearing this year. I
thought this was the silliest thing. There used to be
this saying among the analytic nerds. They would be like,
winning is not a quarterback. Stat Hell, it isn't. You're
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watching Mahomes, you're tell me that's not. I mean nothing
against Spencer Rattler, but he's like one in sixteen as
a starter. You didn't put Mahomes on the Saints. He's
one in sixteen with the same players. Patrick Mahomes is smarter.
He literally sees the field better cognitively. He sees stuff
so fast. Some of these guys don't see the field,
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and then there are guys like Mahomes who not only
sees it, it's like X ray vision. He sees like Gretzky,
he sees stuff developed before it develops. They're bringing in
Jujo Smith. Schuster has done nothing every time he's with
the Chiefs. Ever, notice how valuable he is, Well, what
do you think they mean? Some of it's Andy Reid
Mahomes is just he's an insane all time talent.
Speaker 6 (18:32):
I mean, is it possible the Lions were overvalued? They
haven't beat a team with a winning record this season.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
They have really good players all over the field. They
have an all star team on offense. I'm telling you,
Spags the airy thing. You notice it's almost like, I
mean again, one punt, no turnovers, Like they're so good
in these big spots, but a lot of times after
the first drive, which is scripted, you get to the
second drive and the third drive and the fourth drive
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at Arrowhead and it's like there's no room. There's not
a lot of Sam Laporte is great. Laporte made a
couple of insane catches. He's an all time talent. But
it's like a lot of their stuff. Spags knows their tendencies,
and you got Chiefs just waiting for receivers who catch it.
Speaker 4 (19:15):
Okay, all right, let's move to the next story. Colin,
that's my Jets.
Speaker 6 (19:18):
I know you woke up at the butt crack of
dawn on Sunday to watch the Jets accumulate eighty two
yards of offense. Listen, man, Aaron Glenn was not throwing
the ball down the I'm sorry, Justin Fields was not
throwing the ball down the field. But I think that's
by design from Aaron Glenn. Now, Aaron Glenn was under
fire from the media afterward.
Speaker 4 (19:37):
Colin.
Speaker 6 (19:38):
Here he is talking about Justin Fields and his comments
after the loss.
Speaker 11 (19:43):
When you look at what Justin did the games that
he played, and listen, I didn't think he was bad
at all. I actually thought he did some pretty good
things and those four games. In this fifth game, he
took a step back, you know. And I'm with you, guys,
and we can't have that, you know, and we have
to get better than that. And he knows that, and
he knows that better than anyone, you know. So I
don't think you just try to bench a player after
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to have a one true bad game.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
It's not about that. What you have to do in
this league is win, and in that second half a
go to the backup b what oh I would get
Tyrod Taylor's a pro, he's been around forever. Justin Fields,
Denver was in his head, Denver was hammering him. He
was done. He was done in the second half. The
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other thing is, I mean, there's a reason you bring
Tyrod Taylor to your team, not just for injuries. You know,
Justin Fields is an uneven quarterback. But it was remarkable.
I mean, I'll get into it later, but on that
final drive, I would have kicked the field goal, first
of all. Second of all, why are you asking Justin
Fields to do seven step drops? That is not who
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he is, right, you had a chance on three straight
plays pick up seven yards and kick a sixty seven
yard field goal or a high fifty to fifty eight
to fifty nine. The play calling at the end of
the half was a it doesn't make any sense. The
play calling at the end of the game was as
bad or worse. This team does not know what they're doing.
And if you don't want to go to the backup quarterback,
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I thought over the course of the game, I thought,
you know, we've seen this before when quarterbacks just lose
their confidence, like they're just out of sorts. All right,
go to the veteran, bring it down, move the chains.
But I was sitting there like, dude, just get seven yards,
kick a field goal, and walk out of there stealing
a win. Instead, they're asking Justin Fields with that pass rush,
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deep drops, now you're out of field goal, right.
Speaker 6 (21:34):
I love how you're saying, just get seven yards. They
had an eighty two for the game, Coline their longest
play all day eleven yards. Now, listen, Fields wasn't great.
That's fine, we know he's not great, But what the
hell was the game plan? The game plan, I can
tell you this right now. They basically want and said, Justin,
don't lose the game for us. We can hang around.
Denver's offense ain't great, and they just basically hung around
despite the ineptitude.
Speaker 4 (21:56):
The Jets had a chance.
Speaker 6 (21:57):
To win the game in the final minute, So I
know that weren't awesome and they couldn't move a football.
But by the way, Denver's defense is a crazy staff.
Wee so four times this season in the NFL a
team did not get ten first downs only four times,
three of them were caused by the Denver Broncos.
Speaker 4 (22:13):
That's how good this defense is.
Speaker 6 (22:14):
So the idea that Justin Fields is going to go
in there like the world on fire. That was never happening.
He didn't lose the game for them. They were in
it until the end. This is a good loss, right,
you're winless, you're in line to get the number one pick.
Speaker 4 (22:26):
You covered the spread.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
Well, it's not a good loss when your coach appears
to be completely overmatched as a head coach.
Speaker 6 (22:33):
Well, come on, he's a first year coach against Sean Payton.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
Hall of Fame. Well, dude, it's beyond that. It's got
a Freddie Kitchen's vibe. It's got a rich co type vibe.
It's got a we don't know what we're doing. Is
that the worst thing in the world?
Speaker 6 (22:46):
Code When you could get the number one pick because
you lose fourteen games, that's not the worst.
Speaker 4 (22:51):
Thing in the world.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
No, I'm not saying it is. But you would like
to not have to buy another coach and another set
of coordinators and more physician coaching. How many times can
you keep flushing this green toilet?
Speaker 4 (23:03):
Well, well let's ask.
Speaker 6 (23:04):
The owner, Woody Johnson, who keeps making horrible decisions. Final story,
Colin is two Major League Baseball. Your Mariners. Last night,
Cal Rawley did it again, hit a home run and
Jorge Polanco had two big hits. Yes, Seattle picking up
the three to one win. They steal Game one in Toronto.
Speaker 4 (23:23):
Best you win for your Mariners.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
That was where the Yankees got absolutely overwhelmed. I thought
Toronto was gonna win Game one. When you come out
of an emotional series, American League Championship series, I thought
Seattle was just going to get engulfed with the emotion
and the rest of Jays. That is a that could
be a series deciding win, gain even home field advantage
to Seattle. They played great at home. I have a
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number somewhere today in my notes. Cal Rawley has been
great against the Jays all year. He is just eating
them up.
Speaker 4 (23:55):
Game two today on Fox fantastic.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
Look at this. I'll rally in the playoffs three obp
patting four hundred. Now, think about that, Think about the hitters.
Think about the Dodgers Phillies, all the great hitters, Trey Turner,
Bryce Harper, O Tawny, Freddie Freeman. Like the Dodgers Philly
Stars could not hit. Cal Rawley's hitting four hundred against
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elite pitching. That is that is Beer League numbers. That's
insane j Mack with the news.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
Well that's the news, and thanks for stubbing by the
heard line news.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
See we have so much. I'll get to the James
Franklin getting fired. I wouldn't have done it, and I'll
tell you why. And everybody at Penn State, all the
insiders saying it was untenable you had to fire him.
We'll get to that. So I am going to shock
you that for the second straight time. I'm talking about
the Steeters and Aaron Rodgers. I've got positive vibes. They
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beat Cleveland, they were gonna beat Cleveland twenty three to nine.
I mean, listen, name Dylan Gabriel had no shot, totally engulfed.
But here's the thing. Aaron Rodgers has done two things
really well. Number One, he is fit into the Steelers culture.
He's not taking anything away. And secondly, he's made the
Pittsburgh offense smarter. Pittsburgh's offense is unique. It's got huge targets,
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you know, the Hayward in Washington and DK Metcalf and Friarmouth.
It's got gigantic men. This is not like gadget receivers
like Kansas City's doing it with some smaller body types.
Pittsburgh's got massive size, and Aaron realizes that there's no
reason to take big risks down the field. For the
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last seven eight years, I had said on this show,
Pittsburgh had playmakers defensively, but they just weren't They were
like tone death offensively. They just weren't very smart situationally.
So Aaron has fit in. It's not about Aaron. He's
fit in with a culture and he just made the
offense much smarter now now places like PFF or like
he didn't told them down the field on this team,
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there's no reason to This offense is big, strong and physical,
and I'm watching this team. He's not doing a lot
of wow stuff. He's doing a lot of Wei stuff.
That's what this is for Pittsburgh. So you now they
couldn't beat Sam Darnold because I don't think I don't
think this team is going to beat the best quarterbacks.
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But in the AFC Norths right now, it's backups. So
I think Aaron has down shifted. He understands. He's a
smart guy. He understands what the team needs from me.
And in these games when you're facing Dylan Gabriel and backups,
what the team needs is the system, first downs, not
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a lot of wow plays. I got big targets, and
I mean it's like you're throwing at defensive ends. This
whole team feels like a tight end, but effective productive enough.
I like what I see. You're getting his touch, his
accuracy in his IQ, and I think he's done a
great job. The numbers will tell you, well, he's not
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throwing the ball down the field. You know what, maybe
a younger Aaron Rodgers, when he was in his athletic prime,
would have been running around and running out of completions.
This errand for this team which has Mac trucks as
targets in Washington and DK metcalf, this is exactly the
offense you should run. Get some physical matchup advantages. You
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can throw stuff underneath, your big guys can break tackles.
I'm really impressed by it. I know they may run
away with this division by Thanksgiving, but he's doing exactly that. Now,
that was a great throw in the end zone, across
your body. That's an air and throw. But he I
think he's really figured out the right tenor for this offense.
He's just moving the pocket enough. Here he was after.
Speaker 12 (27:53):
I think we're playing playing pretty smart football. I think Art,
you know, got us into a good rhythm today. And
when we take care of the football and don't turn
it over, we're gonna have a chance any game. And
then if we can control line scrimmage, you know we're
gonna be planned downhill. I thought the key to the
last two games has been first and second down.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
Yeah, I think it looks really good. And I you know,
I'm all for years and years. You know, it's so funny. Aaron.
Remember when Aaron left the Jets and he was like, yeah,
at the meeting with Aaron Glenn, I flew cross country
on my Gulf Stream or Citation or something, my private jet,
and I sat down for a meeting in twenty seconds later,
Aaron Glenn said, we're gonna go in a different direction.
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And Aaron's like, that was weird. I watched the Jets yesterday.
They're weird. Aaron's not. Aaron went to Pittsburgh and he
just he's taken this week. The Steelers offense for like
seven years, they can't run the ball, just fight using
draft capital on the old line and a running back.
You're like, well, why aren't they more effective? They just
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weren't smart enough, and he's a trick and he deserves
a ton of credit. Coming up next, another track meet
involving the Dallas Cowboys. James Franklin gets fired. And there
was a play last night in the Lions Chiefs game.
There was a singular play that defines why Kansas City's
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Speaker 1 (30:51):
Brewers beat the Mariners in six in the World Series.
I'm not sure how good I feel about that. After
the Dodgers appear to have solved their bull pen. Probably
go with Los Angeles, but be that as it may.
The Dallas Cowboys lost yesterday, and they lost because their
defense is a quarterback stimulus package. Everybody, everybody. Bryce Young
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has never been more comfortable. He couldn't have been more
comfortable sitting on a couch watching the game. Dak is
on fire. Eleven total touchdowns, no picks, last three starts.
I mean, Dak is absolutely on fire. He's playing great football,
but he can't play linebacker. Maybe they should consider it
right now. The Cowboys allow opposing quarterbacks one hundred and
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seventeen passer rating, and I'm told by my team this
morning that's the highest since they have kept track of
that stat There's never been a defense this bad. But
I said, when they traded Micah, you're gonna lose this
trade for a year. It's the Shaq Kobe trade. You're
gonna lose it for a year. Remember when they shipped,
they chose we got a move Shack, not co And
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for a couple of years it looked really bad because
the Heat were ready to win a title. But the
Cowboys have two first round picks. It is a draft
that is rich at corner and edge rusher, and they're
going to use all their picks in the first several
rounds the draft of defense. They don't need a quarterback.
Dak is healthy and playing great. Did George Pickens move?
You know, I looked at it and I thought, oh,
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Pickens is a one year deal. I'm not so sure.
Now Dak's maturity has really tempered. George Pickens kind of
you know, high maintenance. So maybe that's a tantem that works.
You can pay two receivers. I mean, you got to
hit on some free labor in the draft. But I
watched Dallas's offense, they look reasonably well coached. Dak's on fire,
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but this defense made Rico Dowdell look like Earl Campbell.
I mean they gave him the ball thirty times you
rush from were two one hundred yards almost. So again
it's a track meet and Dallas has only one way
to win. Now, They've got to hit the rip. Been
first at the track meet and they didn't. Bryce Young
did and here's Dak after that.
Speaker 4 (33:07):
One says it's demoralizing.
Speaker 9 (33:08):
Excuse me, but I'd definitely say it's frustrating, right like
just even the last time you have the ball were
probablys are not our best series of the game. If
we don't score, last thing I'm doing is being frustrated
at the defense.
Speaker 4 (33:23):
That's that's my problem.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
That's our problem.
Speaker 9 (33:25):
That's somebody on offense or you know, something that we
didn't do better.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
Okay, I want to talk about in that game last night.
So remember a couple of weeks ago, Kansas City goes
they lose the Jacksonville but it's it really is the
foundational piece of Kansas City. They are so good situationally.
So there was a play that was called a pick
in Kansas City's like, no, no, no, no, no, no, this
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is not a pick. It's within a yard of the
line of scrimmage. That's legal. Travis Kelsey knew it. Mahomes
knew it, Andy Reid knew it. They all all were pointing, no, no,
mister official, you're wrong on that. It's within one yard
of the line of scrimmage. They knew the rules better
than the officials. And this is very Belichickian. Back in
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New England, Brady and Belichick, Josh McDaniel, they knew the
rule book better than the officials and they tinkered with
it and they manipulated it. So Kansas City knew no, no, no, no,
that pick is legal, and they were right. Last night,
Detroit gets into one of these plays and I think
Detroit's well coached, but the Jared Goff touchdown when he
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goes out to the flat. No, they practiced that thing
ten times. It's illegal. You got to get that buttoned up.
You can't run that play more than once a year,
and when you run it, you got to get it
buttoned up. It's an old rule that goes back to
t formation, where GoF has to stop for at least
a second. He just can't go in motion and curl off.
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He has to stop and set. It's kind of a
specific to quarterback rule from the the Lost Ages, the
halcyon days of football. So again, in both instances near
the goal line, huge situational play. Kansas City against the
Jags knew the rule book better than the official Detroit
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just a little play, was not buttoned up and didn't
know the rules specifically. And to me, I mean, you
start watching these games, I mean games that should be
thirty to nothing like they're not. The Jets and Denver.
Denver is so much better, and Denver's incredibly well coached.
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Denver had the better everything it comes down to, like
situational coaching, situational quarterbacking these Super Bowls. There was a
period for about ten years where all the Super Bowls
were blowouts. The Cowboys were in a few of them
when them That's not the way it is now generally speaking.
Now Kansas City has gotten their boat raced in a
couple of Super Bowls because they couldn't get the left
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tackle right. But by and large, these games are decided
on these little situational, circumstantial plays, moments understanding the rules.
Kansas City's great at it. They knew this pick was legal.
I guarantee you they went to the rule book because
the minute that play happened, they were all pointed at
the reft. No pick the flag up. So it's just,
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you know, not the end of the world, but it Detroit,
you gotta get that right. That's a play that you
run to Jared Goff one time a year. You can't
run it again. It's like Philly Special. You get one
of those every couple of seasons. You better have it
buttoned up. So Penn State, it's as strange it really
is to me, lost three straight close games. Now they
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lost to Northwestern. They lost as a huge favorite out West.
Although I will tell you in college football, traveling three
thousand miles, nothing feels like an upset. That's why what
Indiana did to Oregon this weekend is unbelievable. College teams
are young men. They do not travel as well as professionals.
In the NFL home field. I mean, Seattle can go
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all the way to Jacksonville, it doesn't matter. It just
doesn't matter. But in college you know, you travel to
UCLA off that Oregon loss, it's not that shocking they lost.
I mean it's shocking now losing the Northwestern Apparently James
Franklin and the athletic director got into a shouting match
in the locker room. But here's why I worry about it,
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the old substitute teacher rule. If you're gonna spare no
expense to fire a coach, and they paid Franklin fifty
large fifty million, then you better spare no expense to
hire the next coach. What happens in the next six
weeks if Penn State goes five and one or four
and two, because they got the players and all the
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players are going to protest. We want the interim coach.
We want the interim guy. What do you do? We're
gonna transfer. I'm telling you these athletic departments they bow,
They bow to pressure. So when you fire a coach,
just know that, like the substitute teacher, everybody loves the
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interim coach. They come in, everybody's on their best behavior,
everybody's working their butt off. Generally, the interim is not
as harsh, it's not as bleak or intimidating or as
punitive as the head coach. Everybody's playing their hardest. They
want to curry favor with the new guys backups think
to have a chance to start, and you go in
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a little heater, You go in a three game, four
game winning streak, and then the players are like, this
is our guy or we're transfer and then your trapp.
So if you're gonna spare no expense to fire James,
you better spare no expense to hire the next guy.
So you know, at Michigan hardball, leaves who was popular, well,
the popular assistant so far doesn't look very good. Now
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it's too early to make a call. Bryce Underwood, marsh
two of their best players. You know their kids. Underwood's
a freshman. They got a lot of good young players
Michigan brand. They still recruit well. But I always worry
about it. That's how Antonio Pierce got hired by the Raiders.
If you fire too early, it's one thing. If you
fire and there's two three games left, there's no pressure
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on an athletic department to hire the guy. You hire
with six games left or seven games left, and you
win a bowl game, you go four and two, Maybe
you upset a good team. Everybody's like, has the guy?
Is he really the guy? Or is he the guy?
The roster the substitute teacher that everybody loves. So I
think it's dangerous. Bruce Feldman will stop by later in
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the show to talk about it. I think you get
into really dicey spots. I was shocked by it. I mean,
they won thirteen games last season. They've had double digit
wins multiple seasons. He's a great recruiter. Now there's an
argument it was, you know, just stuff gets untenable. Okay,
I'm not close enough to the program to know. I
went online this weekend. Nobody on the message board, everybody
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in the reddit sites wants him gone. But just be careful.
You guys all wanted Ryan daygone in Columbus before that
Tennessee game last year when you lost to Michigan by twenty,
y'all wanted Ryan Day out. That's funny. You kind of
like Ryan Day. Now. Ohio State won it last year,
probably gonna want it this year. Gotta be careful. Listen
to the fan base. J Mac crazy weekend. What was
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your favorite? What was your favorite game this weekend? We
both had a very.
Speaker 4 (40:28):
Can I go with Penn State losing as my favorite game?
Speaker 6 (40:31):
The James Franklis I mean, we talked about this college's insane.
Speaker 4 (40:34):
How rapidly that accelerated it can?
Speaker 6 (40:36):
I also hit up somebody who's in the college football
coaching industry, shall we say, and he gave me a name.
You want it, yeah, Clark Lee at Vanderbilt. Keep an
eye on him, young guy, very sharp previously at Notre Dame.
Vanderbilt is pretty damn good this year on a good run.
I would keep an eye on him. I know you
liked the Indiana coach as well.
Speaker 1 (40:57):
Listen, the Indiana coach should not lead and will not leave. Well,
he's making eighteen years old. I don't know. I mean
he's making eight million. It's his program. They just went
to Oregon and won. Why can't they win with a
transfer portal in the nil If you have support from
your donor base, why do you have to go to Alabama?
Alabama doesn't have the money of right now, of USC,
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they don't have the money of Notre Dame. They don't
have the money of Oregon. Alabama now looks pretty ordinary?
Why they don't have the donors to step up?
Speaker 4 (41:28):
They're not ordinary? The kid Tie Simpsons.
Speaker 1 (41:30):
Amazing, he's good. He may go, he may go higher
in the draft, go to the mock drafts, he's a
first rounder. Our two Colin right, Colin wrong, and the
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Here we go our number one. I'm not sure we
can get all this show into the next three hours.
We are live. We are in Chicago, and it is
The Herd one hour from now. Where Colin was right,
where Colin was wrong. I don't think we should waste
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any time. Everybody's worst nightmare is now official. The Kansas
City Chiefs once again are the best team in professional football.
First three weeks, Mahomes was wobbly, they were averaging twenty
points a game, and in their last three games they
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are now averaging thirty two points. Along with that defense
and along with those special teams. Sorry NFL, they did
it again. Kansas City only Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes.
They're the only people in this league that can take
number two and number three wide receivers. They can take
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Hollywood Brown and Jude ju Smith, Schuster and back up
left tackles and okay, running backs and get into the thirties.
Xavier Worthy with any other team, would he be this good.
All they do is make it work. Andy Reid is
the great chef, He's the Gordon Ramsey. Everything in the
kitchen has a role. Let's just keep tinkering. Let's keep
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figuring out a way to make everything work. Put it
into our eCos system, and let's make it flourish. By
the way, this is what Kansas City does every year
when you get into these big games. They play differently.
No penalties, no turnovers, one punt, whine all you want
(02:15):
about the penalties. Well coached teams Belichick and Brady that
is for years they don't turn it over, and they
don't get penalized, and they don't pump much. The NFL
seasons are incredibly long. You can't overreact to zero to
two or three and three again. Get people healthy, make
everybody count in the kitchen. Three weeks ago, when they
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beat Baltimore, everybody said, well the Ravens are beat up. Yeah,
right now, so is Tampa, so is San Francisco. A
lot of teams in the NFL are beat up doesn't
matter with this defense, this play calling, people get distracted.
The NBA is about talent and appeasing the star. The
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NFL is about the on line, the defense coordinator, about
the entire system, and it's about the culture. This is
a locker room of fifty three guys, not five that
really really truly matter. And here's Kansas City. They keep tweaking.
Add a little salt, make everything in the kitchen work.
Prime example last night when they're offensive limp. The first
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couple of weeks offensive line it was messy, It was
not very good. They had no running game. O line
was bad last night despite the Detroit Lions having a
ten minute opening drive, Kansas City one time of possession
with this offensive line that was a bit chaotic and
a bit messy five weeks ago. And I know you
don't want to hear it, but Rashi Rice is coming back.
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The receiving corp Now, all right? Were these a two
juju Smith Schuster's a three Hollywood brown as a gadget four?
Oh that's a and with Mahomes and Reid pulling the levers,
that is a way above average receiving court. Travis Kelcey
again in a big spot he arrives. So this is
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what Kansas City does. First three weeks, very choppy. Last
three games thirty two a game. And Detroit's a really
good team, but they were so focused last night. Here's
Patrick Mahomes on being the youngest quarterback to ever get
to three hundred touchdown passes.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
It's extremely cool. I mean, I've been blessed. I always
say it, and I mean it like I've been blessed,
like I drafted here in Kansas City, a great community,
great ownership, and then getting one of the best football
coaches of all time and some of the greatest players
of all.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
Time around me.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
And so it makes my job a lot easier when
I'm going to throw to some great ones. And let's
keep let's continue it, let's have some fun, and we've
got a long career ahead, and we'll see how we
can get to.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
That's the best team in the NFL right now, Kansas
City Chiefs, one punt, no turnovers, no penalties, dominating an
excellent Detroit Lions team. Okay, so the last couple of weeks,
Baker Mayfield has had to go on the road out
West Seattle, San Francisco. Good teams and in both games,
Baker Mayfield was the difference. He's missing Mike Evans and
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Chris Godwin and Bucky Irving a Mecca. Buca got hurt
in the game. Baker willed his team to a w.
As you guys all know, this league is about toughness
and resilience. Don't be a victim. Deal with it. Baker's
not the biggest, He's only six to one. He's not
the most athletic, but his fight picking up that first
(05:28):
down on the run is a plus plus. The dude
was missing his top four receivers. Instead, he needed Tez
Johnson heck of a catch and Cameron Johnson, who was
an undrafted D two athlete that was his receiving corps
and both caught their first career NFL touchdowns. Baker Mayfield
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a lot of these quarterbacks, I don't even need to
name them. They get coordinators fired, Baker Mayfield's last two coordinators,
he got head coaching jobs. And again, there's a quality
that Baker Mayfield has that I wish everybody in America had.
He just not everything has to be perfect. He never
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plays the victim. It's like, what do I gotta work with?
All Right? Let's go that. He's never pointing fingers. Bakers like,
get on my back. This is a guy pulling. He's
pulling a team right now. They are a mess. Offensively,
they are falling out. He's using D two receivers and
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he's beating Seattle in Seattle. You see what Seattle did
on the road yesterday. You see what Seattle did. Are
the Steelers this year? He's beating San Francisco. All I hear, well,
brock Pertes, guys are injured. Baker's like, yeah, what evs,
let's go. I don't think right now that Tampa Bay
roster because I think of the second best team in
the NFL to Kansas City. But their rosters so beat up.
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It's not a top ten roster. They're missing great players.
Pedal to the medal, head down, don'ts. Tampa's now five
and one big win after big win with Baker Mayfield.
His resilience is completely contagious and redeemable, and here he
was after another on the road.
Speaker 5 (07:15):
I truly genuinely trust the guys that are in there.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
They're ready.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
We talked throughout the week.
Speaker 5 (07:20):
Guys are on the same page, and that's real. I
trust these guys, even though some of them might not
have played a whole lot of ball. But we're four
on the same page. Good things happen. You don't have
to have the perfect play when all your guys are
fighting for each other and are on the same page.
And that's an example of that defense played great special
teams as well, And so that's complimentary football.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
All right. Right now, Baker Mayfield, I think he's got
everybody's vote as the most valuable player to do it
with that beleaguered roster on the road, beating good teams,
beating really good defensive minds or defensive coordinators. Feel terrible
for San Francisco. Fred Warner's now injured. The whole team
is falling apart physically, all their stars. But that's you know,
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we often asked ourselves, you know, what's a franchise quarterback?
What's the difference? The difference is when things aren't right.
I hear this all the time. Well, I mean, yeah,
you hear it from you know, for years and years. Well,
you know, we don't have Caleb's missing this, or Jackson
Dart was missing that. Baker's missing everything. He's on the
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road Seattle and San Francisco, were good, and he's willing
his team to win. He may not be the best athlete,
but on that one run he looked like it. That's
what a franchise quarterback is. You don't have your best
running back, you don't have your top three wide receivers,
you got a defensive coach, so it's your offense. That's
what an MVP looks like. That's what a franchise quarterback
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looks like. It took Baker a while to get there
from Cleveland and Carolina and Los Angeles. Took him a
while to get there. Who cares some careers, You gotta
let him bake. But fantastic performance. Yeah, that was great.
J Mack gotta say this, by the way, that was
that was in Tampa? Was it in Tampa? Samford said,
I watched so many damn games yesterday.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
Yeah, I was in Tampa.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
Say my bad, My bad on that, folks, My bad.
That wasn't it was in Tampa. I got I watched
thirteen games yesterday and nine the day before. I'm lost.
But I mean, the truth of the matter is Saul
is a great defensive coordinator. To go to Seattle, you're
facing McDonald. I mean, look what he did the Trevor
Lawrence yesterday. You're talking about facing the best coordinators, smart,
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young defensive guys, pass rushes, and for him to go
out there and pull that stuff is unbelievable.
Speaker 6 (09:33):
I mean, I think I saw stat after Fred Warner
went out Colin the Bucks average like seven point four
yards per place, something insane. Without Warner, the Niners have nothing,
no Bosa, no Warner. So I'm pumping the brakes on Baker.
He was fantastic again yesterday. Oh my god, he's phenomenal.
You could argue he's been the best quarterback in the
NFL this season.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
No, I don't even I don't even think. I think
you have to. You have to consider everything. You have
to consider it. You got to consider what you have.
I mean, the Seattle win shocked this. I think you
and I thought it was our second favorite bet of
the weekend. By the way, how'd you I went? Fourn
Oh yesterday? How'd you do?
Speaker 4 (10:06):
Two and two? Waiting on one more tonight?
Speaker 1 (10:08):
I've got Washington tonight at home over Chicago. Bears don't
travel particularly well. I'm not sure if you caught this.
The Mariners, your guy Cal Ray, Well, all right, we've
got a lot to talk about. Speaking of quarterback play,
Justin Herbert, I thought that the Baker run may have
(10:31):
been the play of the day. How about the Justin
Herbert play to get the ball to Lad McConkey when
we come back. That is all time stuff. We talk
about this all the time. I like traits with quarterbacks.
I like big, strong guys over small guys. And by
the way, Baker's not the biggest guy, but he makes
he plays bigger than himself, right, bigger than his size.
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What Justin Herbert did yesterday and one play, I looked
at it this morning on social media, switching hands during
the play. We'll get to that. Plus Aaron Rodgers only compliments.
Dodgers are playing tonight. We have got ourselves this next week,
the next four or five days are as good as
America gets for sports. Oh yeah, James Franklin got fired.
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I don't know what to do with that.
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All right, Well, come back. This is going to be
an all time week Dodgers tonight and tomorrow against the
Brewers who escaped the Cubs. Mariners take a one to
zero lead on the Blue Jays. All right. So, of
the many bad decisions the Miami Dolphins have made over
the last decade, one of them was on display yesterday,
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drafting Tua over Justin Herbert. When they're on the same field,
you kind of see the difference to a small, not
terribly athletic, doesn't have a big arm three picks Herbert's
unbelievable six to six, tough, strong, physical moves. Top NFL
quarterbacks need to rise above their circumstances and TWA needs
(12:44):
everything to be perfect. Herbert had no number one receiver,
three backups on the offensive line, the number three or
number four running back, and justin Herbert made a play
in this game. It wasn't just game saving. It may
have been season saving. As Herbert again, backups everywhere, old
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keenan Allen, that's what he has to work with. But
he may have played a Ladd mcconkee where he switched
hands with the ball again on the road, backups everywhere.
Season it felt like season on the switches hands finds
mcconkee again. That is rising above the circumstances, which were
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terrible for this team, shedding two hundred and fifty pound
guys or more, seventy six percent completion percentage, two touchdowns,
one hundred and twelve passer rating, backups behind him, backups
to the sidelines, backups in front of him. Jim Harbaugh afterwards,
talking about that played to Ladd mcconkee thirty minutes later,
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could hardly believe what he saw I play.
Speaker 8 (13:55):
I'd be burning my mind for t They throw dirt
over top of me. Yeah, Herbert back to throw defender
wrapped around him, you know, he's able to just a
mighty man it and shake it off and Hitler mconkeye.
You know, on a physical level, it just can't really
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be done by many. You know, just a couple, you know,
just a couple, a handful of guys really that could
do that.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
So it was Harbaugh who took McConkey out of Georgia.
Great slot receiver. He has been unbelievably valuable his first
couple of years with the Chargers. But again it's like
Baker Mayfield, you gotta rise above the circumstances, don't be
a victim, get it done, put your helmet on. Doesn't
matter where we're playing. That was probably the play of
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the day, Baker Mayfield's run for a first down and
Herbert escaping that sack. That's what franchise quarterbacks do. Don't
point fingers. All right, let's go, we're trailing on the road.
Saddle up. J Mack with the news. No, no, no,
turn on the news.
Speaker 4 (15:06):
This is the headline news.
Speaker 6 (15:09):
All right, Colin, Let's get started with your new number
one team.
Speaker 4 (15:12):
In the NFL, the Kansas City Chiefs.
Speaker 6 (15:14):
It was an incident last night after the game. Brian
Branch of the Lions really talented safety got ticked off
Isaiah Pacheco's talking trash.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
He refuses to shake Mahomes' hand and then.
Speaker 6 (15:24):
Goes up and just wax Juju Smith Schuster in the face. Now,
at the time, nobody had any idea what was going on,
why it happened. You could see this turns into a
big time brawl. Branch is basically ready to fight the
whole team. Colin, Now, I have gone back and found
the reason that Branch went after Juju, and Juju Smith
Schuster did block him in the back illegally. It was
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a dirty hit, but that's no reason to lose your
mind anyway. Here's Dan Campbell afterward talking about how Brian
Branch's actions were unnecessary.
Speaker 10 (15:54):
Let me start with this. I love Brown Branch, but
what he did is excusable and it's not going to
be accepted here. It's not what we do, it's not
what we're about. I apologize to uh Coach Reid and
the chiefs and uh you know and Shuster. That's not okay.
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That's not what we do here, and it's not going
to be okay. He knows that our team knows it,
and uh so that's that's that's not what we do.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Yeah, I mean, emotional intelligence is really important, and people
get ticked off. You got to learn to cope. That's
the reality. Game's over. I don't know if he'd be suspended.
He'll be fine.
Speaker 4 (16:34):
I'm not sure, probably will be Colin. This is not good.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
He's a great player. I love him as a player,
but you just can't do that. Got to grow up.
Speaker 6 (16:40):
Yeah, their secondary already stinks. They face Baker Mayfield next,
so that would be it. That would be a punit
of suspension.
Speaker 4 (16:47):
Now, wast it? You and I have played sports.
Speaker 6 (16:49):
We know in the key of the moment your mind.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
I get it.
Speaker 4 (16:52):
It's it's tough.
Speaker 6 (16:53):
Somebody's got to reel them in or he's got to
just know.
Speaker 4 (16:55):
I can't do that. Juju didn't kind of hit him
with the chief shop it again. It's no excuse for that.
Just a quick question. Are you sure the.
Speaker 6 (17:04):
Chiefs beating the Lions makes them in the number one
team I didn't shine in earlier.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
It's not that they beat them, it's that they controlled them.
And they don't have Rashi Rice yet, and they didn't
have they didn't have their offensive line all settled last night.
They're getting they're getting their left tackle, they're getting Rashee Rice.
This team's dropping now thirty we watched Detroit really, I
mean just dismember teams. It was just up and down
the field, dominate time of possession. The Chiefs one time
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of possession and that's after the Lions had a ten
minute first drive. That's impressive. So they didn't have their
offensive line or Rashee Rice. I'm telling you, man, Patrick Mahomes,
it's hard to explain. I remember hearing this year. I
thought this was the silliest thing. There used to be
this saying among the analytic nerds. They would be like,
winning is not a quarterback. Stat Hell, it isn't. You're
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watching Mahomes, you're tell me that's not. I mean nothing
against Spencer Rattler, but he's like one in sixteen as
a starter. You didn't put Mahomes on the Saints. He's
one in sixteen with the same players. Patrick Mahomes is smarter.
He literally sees the field better cognitively. He sees stuff
so fast. Some of these guys don't see the field,
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and then there are guys like Mahomes who not only
sees it, it's like X ray vision. He sees like Gretzky,
he sees stuff developed before it develops. They're bringing in
Jujo Smith. Schuster has done nothing every time he's with
the Chiefs. Ever, notice how valuable he is, Well, what
do you think they mean? Some of it's Andy Reid
Mahomes is just he's an insane all time talent.
Speaker 6 (18:32):
I mean, is it possible the Lions were overvalued? They
haven't beat a team with a winning record this season.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
They have really good players all over the field. They
have an all star team on offense. I'm telling you,
Spags the airy thing. You notice it's almost like, I
mean again, one punt, no turnovers, Like they're so good
in these big spots, but a lot of times after
the first drive, which is scripted, you get to the
second drive and the third drive and the fourth drive
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at Arrowhead and it's like there's no room. There's not
a lot of Sam Laporte is great. Laporte made a
couple of insane catches. He's an all time talent. But
it's like a lot of their stuff. Spags knows their tendencies,
and you got Chiefs just waiting for receivers who catch it.
Speaker 4 (19:15):
Okay, all right, let's move to the next story. Colin,
that's my Jets.
Speaker 6 (19:18):
I know you woke up at the butt crack of
dawn on Sunday to watch the Jets accumulate eighty two
yards of offense. Listen, man, Aaron Glenn was not throwing
the ball down the I'm sorry, Justin Fields was not
throwing the ball down the field. But I think that's
by design from Aaron Glenn. Now, Aaron Glenn was under
fire from the media afterward.
Speaker 4 (19:37):
Colin.
Speaker 6 (19:38):
Here he is talking about Justin Fields and his comments
after the loss.
Speaker 11 (19:43):
When you look at what Justin did the games that
he played, and listen, I didn't think he was bad
at all. I actually thought he did some pretty good
things and those four games. In this fifth game, he
took a step back, you know. And I'm with you, guys,
and we can't have that, you know, and we have
to get better than that. And he knows that, and
he knows that better than anyone, you know. So I
don't think you just try to bench a player after
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to have a one true bad game.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
It's not about that. What you have to do in
this league is win, and in that second half a
go to the backup b what oh I would get
Tyrod Taylor's a pro, he's been around forever. Justin Fields,
Denver was in his head, Denver was hammering him. He
was done. He was done in the second half. The
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other thing is, I mean, there's a reason you bring
Tyrod Taylor to your team, not just for injuries. You know,
Justin Fields is an uneven quarterback. But it was remarkable.
I mean, I'll get into it later, but on that
final drive, I would have kicked the field goal, first
of all. Second of all, why are you asking Justin
Fields to do seven step drops? That is not who
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he is, right, you had a chance on three straight
plays pick up seven yards and kick a sixty seven
yard field goal or a high fifty to fifty eight
to fifty nine. The play calling at the end of
the half was a it doesn't make any sense. The
play calling at the end of the game was as
bad or worse. This team does not know what they're doing.
And if you don't want to go to the backup quarterback,
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I thought over the course of the game, I thought,
you know, we've seen this before when quarterbacks just lose
their confidence, like they're just out of sorts. All right,
go to the veteran, bring it down, move the chains.
But I was sitting there like, dude, just get seven yards,
kick a field goal, and walk out of there stealing
a win. Instead, they're asking Justin Fields with that pass rush,
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deep drops, now you're out of field goal, right.
Speaker 6 (21:34):
I love how you're saying, just get seven yards. They
had an eighty two for the game, Coline their longest
play all day eleven yards. Now, listen, Fields wasn't great.
That's fine, we know he's not great, But what the
hell was the game plan? The game plan, I can
tell you this right now. They basically want and said, Justin,
don't lose the game for us. We can hang around.
Denver's offense ain't great, and they just basically hung around
despite the ineptitude.
Speaker 4 (21:56):
The Jets had a chance.
Speaker 6 (21:57):
To win the game in the final minute, So I
know that weren't awesome and they couldn't move a football.
But by the way, Denver's defense is a crazy staff.
Wee so four times this season in the NFL a
team did not get ten first downs only four times,
three of them were caused by the Denver Broncos.
Speaker 4 (22:13):
That's how good this defense is.
Speaker 6 (22:14):
So the idea that Justin Fields is going to go
in there like the world on fire. That was never happening.
He didn't lose the game for them. They were in
it until the end. This is a good loss, right,
you're winless, you're in line to get the number one pick.
Speaker 4 (22:26):
You covered the spread.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
Well, it's not a good loss when your coach appears
to be completely overmatched as a head coach.
Speaker 6 (22:33):
Well, come on, he's a first year coach against Sean Payton.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
Hall of Fame. Well, dude, it's beyond that. It's got
a Freddie Kitchen's vibe. It's got a rich co type vibe.
It's got a we don't know what we're doing. Is
that the worst thing in the world?
Speaker 6 (22:46):
Code When you could get the number one pick because
you lose fourteen games, that's not the worst.
Speaker 4 (22:51):
Thing in the world.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
No, I'm not saying it is. But you would like
to not have to buy another coach and another set
of coordinators and more physician coaching. How many times can
you keep flushing this green toilet?
Speaker 4 (23:03):
Well, well let's ask.
Speaker 6 (23:04):
The owner, Woody Johnson, who keeps making horrible decisions. Final story,
Colin is two Major League Baseball. Your Mariners. Last night,
Cal Rawley did it again, hit a home run and
Jorge Polanco had two big hits. Yes, Seattle picking up
the three to one win. They steal Game one in Toronto.
Speaker 4 (23:23):
Best you win for your Mariners.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
That was where the Yankees got absolutely overwhelmed. I thought
Toronto was gonna win Game one. When you come out
of an emotional series, American League Championship series, I thought
Seattle was just going to get engulfed with the emotion
and the rest of Jays. That is a that could
be a series deciding win, gain even home field advantage
to Seattle. They played great at home. I have a
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number somewhere today in my notes. Cal Rawley has been
great against the Jays all year. He is just eating
them up.
Speaker 4 (23:55):
Game two today on Fox fantastic.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
Look at this. I'll rally in the playoffs three obp
patting four hundred. Now, think about that, Think about the hitters.
Think about the Dodgers Phillies, all the great hitters, Trey Turner,
Bryce Harper, O Tawny, Freddie Freeman. Like the Dodgers Philly
Stars could not hit. Cal Rawley's hitting four hundred against
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elite pitching. That is that is Beer League numbers. That's
insane j Mack with the news.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
Well that's the news, and thanks for stubbing by the
heard line news.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
See we have so much. I'll get to the James
Franklin getting fired. I wouldn't have done it, and I'll
tell you why. And everybody at Penn State, all the
insiders saying it was untenable you had to fire him.
We'll get to that. So I am going to shock
you that for the second straight time. I'm talking about
the Steeters and Aaron Rodgers. I've got positive vibes. They
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beat Cleveland, they were gonna beat Cleveland twenty three to nine.
I mean, listen, name Dylan Gabriel had no shot, totally engulfed.
But here's the thing. Aaron Rodgers has done two things
really well. Number One, he is fit into the Steelers culture.
He's not taking anything away. And secondly, he's made the
Pittsburgh offense smarter. Pittsburgh's offense is unique. It's got huge targets,
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you know, the Hayward in Washington and DK Metcalf and Friarmouth.
It's got gigantic men. This is not like gadget receivers
like Kansas City's doing it with some smaller body types.
Pittsburgh's got massive size, and Aaron realizes that there's no
reason to take big risks down the field. For the
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last seven eight years, I had said on this show,
Pittsburgh had playmakers defensively, but they just weren't They were
like tone death offensively. They just weren't very smart situationally.
So Aaron has fit in. It's not about Aaron. He's
fit in with a culture and he just made the
offense much smarter now now places like PFF or like
he didn't told them down the field on this team,
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there's no reason to This offense is big, strong and physical,
and I'm watching this team. He's not doing a lot
of wow stuff. He's doing a lot of Wei stuff.
That's what this is for Pittsburgh. So you now they
couldn't beat Sam Darnold because I don't think I don't
think this team is going to beat the best quarterbacks.
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But in the AFC Norths right now, it's backups. So
I think Aaron has down shifted. He understands. He's a
smart guy. He understands what the team needs from me.
And in these games when you're facing Dylan Gabriel and backups,
what the team needs is the system, first downs, not
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a lot of wow plays. I got big targets, and
I mean it's like you're throwing at defensive ends. This
whole team feels like a tight end, but effective productive enough.
I like what I see. You're getting his touch, his
accuracy in his IQ, and I think he's done a
great job. The numbers will tell you, well, he's not
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throwing the ball down the field. You know what, maybe
a younger Aaron Rodgers, when he was in his athletic prime,
would have been running around and running out of completions.
This errand for this team which has Mac trucks as
targets in Washington and DK metcalf, this is exactly the
offense you should run. Get some physical matchup advantages. You
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can throw stuff underneath, your big guys can break tackles.
I'm really impressed by it. I know they may run
away with this division by Thanksgiving, but he's doing exactly that. Now,
that was a great throw in the end zone, across
your body. That's an air and throw. But he I
think he's really figured out the right tenor for this offense.
He's just moving the pocket enough. Here he was after.
Speaker 12 (27:53):
I think we're playing playing pretty smart football. I think Art,
you know, got us into a good rhythm today. And
when we take care of the football and don't turn
it over, we're gonna have a chance any game. And
then if we can control line scrimmage, you know we're
gonna be planned downhill. I thought the key to the
last two games has been first and second down.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
Yeah, I think it looks really good. And I you know,
I'm all for years and years. You know, it's so funny. Aaron.
Remember when Aaron left the Jets and he was like, yeah,
at the meeting with Aaron Glenn, I flew cross country
on my Gulf Stream or Citation or something, my private jet,
and I sat down for a meeting in twenty seconds later,
Aaron Glenn said, we're gonna go in a different direction.
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And Aaron's like, that was weird. I watched the Jets yesterday.
They're weird. Aaron's not. Aaron went to Pittsburgh and he
just he's taken this week. The Steelers offense for like
seven years, they can't run the ball, just fight using
draft capital on the old line and a running back.
You're like, well, why aren't they more effective? They just
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weren't smart enough, and he's a trick and he deserves
a ton of credit. Coming up next, another track meet
involving the Dallas Cowboys. James Franklin gets fired. And there
was a play last night in the Lions Chiefs game.
There was a singular play that defines why Kansas City's
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Speaker 1 (30:51):
Brewers beat the Mariners in six in the World Series.
I'm not sure how good I feel about that. After
the Dodgers appear to have solved their bull pen. Probably
go with Los Angeles, but be that as it may.
The Dallas Cowboys lost yesterday, and they lost because their
defense is a quarterback stimulus package. Everybody, everybody. Bryce Young
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has never been more comfortable. He couldn't have been more
comfortable sitting on a couch watching the game. Dak is
on fire. Eleven total touchdowns, no picks, last three starts.
I mean, Dak is absolutely on fire. He's playing great football,
but he can't play linebacker. Maybe they should consider it
right now. The Cowboys allow opposing quarterbacks one hundred and
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seventeen passer rating, and I'm told by my team this
morning that's the highest since they have kept track of
that stat There's never been a defense this bad. But
I said, when they traded Micah, you're gonna lose this
trade for a year. It's the Shaq Kobe trade. You're
gonna lose it for a year. Remember when they shipped,
they chose we got a move Shack, not co And
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for a couple of years it looked really bad because
the Heat were ready to win a title. But the
Cowboys have two first round picks. It is a draft
that is rich at corner and edge rusher, and they're
going to use all their picks in the first several
rounds the draft of defense. They don't need a quarterback.
Dak is healthy and playing great. Did George Pickens move?
You know, I looked at it and I thought, oh,
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Pickens is a one year deal. I'm not so sure.
Now Dak's maturity has really tempered. George Pickens kind of
you know, high maintenance. So maybe that's a tantem that works.
You can pay two receivers. I mean, you got to
hit on some free labor in the draft. But I
watched Dallas's offense, they look reasonably well coached. Dak's on fire,
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but this defense made Rico Dowdell look like Earl Campbell.
I mean they gave him the ball thirty times you
rush from were two one hundred yards almost. So again
it's a track meet and Dallas has only one way
to win. Now, They've got to hit the rip. Been
first at the track meet and they didn't. Bryce Young
did and here's Dak after that.
Speaker 4 (33:07):
One says it's demoralizing.
Speaker 9 (33:08):
Excuse me, but I'd definitely say it's frustrating, right like
just even the last time you have the ball were
probablys are not our best series of the game. If
we don't score, last thing I'm doing is being frustrated
at the defense.
Speaker 4 (33:23):
That's that's my problem.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
That's our problem.
Speaker 9 (33:25):
That's somebody on offense or you know, something that we
didn't do better.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
Okay, I want to talk about in that game last night.
So remember a couple of weeks ago, Kansas City goes
they lose the Jacksonville but it's it really is the
foundational piece of Kansas City. They are so good situationally.
So there was a play that was called a pick
in Kansas City's like, no, no, no, no, no, no, this
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is not a pick. It's within a yard of the
line of scrimmage. That's legal. Travis Kelsey knew it. Mahomes
knew it, Andy Reid knew it. They all all were pointing, no, no,
mister official, you're wrong on that. It's within one yard
of the line of scrimmage. They knew the rules better
than the officials. And this is very Belichickian. Back in
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New England, Brady and Belichick, Josh McDaniel, they knew the
rule book better than the officials and they tinkered with
it and they manipulated it. So Kansas City knew no, no, no, no,
that pick is legal, and they were right. Last night,
Detroit gets into one of these plays and I think
Detroit's well coached, but the Jared Goff touchdown when he
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goes out to the flat. No, they practiced that thing
ten times. It's illegal. You got to get that buttoned up.
You can't run that play more than once a year,
and when you run it, you got to get it
buttoned up. It's an old rule that goes back to
t formation, where GoF has to stop for at least
a second. He just can't go in motion and curl off.
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He has to stop and set. It's kind of a
specific to quarterback rule from the the Lost Ages, the
halcyon days of football. So again, in both instances near
the goal line, huge situational play. Kansas City against the
Jags knew the rule book better than the official Detroit
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just a little play, was not buttoned up and didn't
know the rules specifically. And to me, I mean, you
start watching these games, I mean games that should be
thirty to nothing like they're not. The Jets and Denver.
Denver is so much better, and Denver's incredibly well coached.
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Denver had the better everything it comes down to, like
situational coaching, situational quarterbacking these Super Bowls. There was a
period for about ten years where all the Super Bowls
were blowouts. The Cowboys were in a few of them
when them That's not the way it is now generally speaking.
Now Kansas City has gotten their boat raced in a
couple of Super Bowls because they couldn't get the left
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tackle right. But by and large, these games are decided
on these little situational, circumstantial plays, moments understanding the rules.
Kansas City's great at it. They knew this pick was legal.
I guarantee you they went to the rule book because
the minute that play happened, they were all pointed at
the reft. No pick the flag up. So it's just,
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you know, not the end of the world, but it Detroit,
you gotta get that right. That's a play that you
run to Jared Goff one time a year. You can't
run it again. It's like Philly Special. You get one
of those every couple of seasons. You better have it
buttoned up. So Penn State, it's as strange it really
is to me, lost three straight close games. Now they
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lost to Northwestern. They lost as a huge favorite out West.
Although I will tell you in college football, traveling three
thousand miles, nothing feels like an upset. That's why what
Indiana did to Oregon this weekend is unbelievable. College teams
are young men. They do not travel as well as professionals.
In the NFL home field. I mean, Seattle can go
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all the way to Jacksonville, it doesn't matter. It just
doesn't matter. But in college you know, you travel to
UCLA off that Oregon loss, it's not that shocking they lost.
I mean it's shocking now losing the Northwestern Apparently James
Franklin and the athletic director got into a shouting match
in the locker room. But here's why I worry about it,
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the old substitute teacher rule. If you're gonna spare no
expense to fire a coach, and they paid Franklin fifty
large fifty million, then you better spare no expense to
hire the next coach. What happens in the next six
weeks if Penn State goes five and one or four
and two, because they got the players and all the
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players are going to protest. We want the interim coach.
We want the interim guy. What do you do? We're
gonna transfer. I'm telling you these athletic departments they bow,
They bow to pressure. So when you fire a coach,
just know that, like the substitute teacher, everybody loves the
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interim coach. They come in, everybody's on their best behavior,
everybody's working their butt off. Generally, the interim is not
as harsh, it's not as bleak or intimidating or as
punitive as the head coach. Everybody's playing their hardest. They
want to curry favor with the new guys backups think
to have a chance to start, and you go in
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a little heater, You go in a three game, four
game winning streak, and then the players are like, this
is our guy or we're transfer and then your trapp.
So if you're gonna spare no expense to fire James,
you better spare no expense to hire the next guy.
So you know, at Michigan hardball, leaves who was popular, well,
the popular assistant so far doesn't look very good. Now
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it's too early to make a call. Bryce Underwood, marsh
two of their best players. You know their kids. Underwood's
a freshman. They got a lot of good young players
Michigan brand. They still recruit well. But I always worry
about it. That's how Antonio Pierce got hired by the Raiders.
If you fire too early, it's one thing. If you
fire and there's two three games left, there's no pressure
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on an athletic department to hire the guy. You hire
with six games left or seven games left, and you
win a bowl game, you go four and two, Maybe
you upset a good team. Everybody's like, has the guy?
Is he really the guy? Or is he the guy?
The roster the substitute teacher that everybody loves. So I
think it's dangerous. Bruce Feldman will stop by later in
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the show to talk about it. I think you get
into really dicey spots. I was shocked by it. I mean,
they won thirteen games last season. They've had double digit
wins multiple seasons. He's a great recruiter. Now there's an
argument it was, you know, just stuff gets untenable. Okay,
I'm not close enough to the program to know. I
went online this weekend. Nobody on the message board, everybody
(40:01):
in the reddit sites wants him gone. But just be careful.
You guys all wanted Ryan daygone in Columbus before that
Tennessee game last year when you lost to Michigan by twenty,
y'all wanted Ryan Day out. That's funny. You kind of
like Ryan Day. Now. Ohio State won it last year,
probably gonna want it this year. Gotta be careful. Listen
to the fan base. J Mac crazy weekend. What was
(40:25):
your favorite? What was your favorite game this weekend? We
both had a very.
Speaker 4 (40:28):
Can I go with Penn State losing as my favorite game?
Speaker 6 (40:31):
The James Franklis I mean, we talked about this college's insane.
Speaker 4 (40:34):
How rapidly that accelerated it can?
Speaker 6 (40:36):
I also hit up somebody who's in the college football
coaching industry, shall we say, and he gave me a name.
You want it, yeah, Clark Lee at Vanderbilt. Keep an
eye on him, young guy, very sharp previously at Notre Dame.
Vanderbilt is pretty damn good this year on a good run.
I would keep an eye on him. I know you
liked the Indiana coach as well.
Speaker 1 (40:57):
Listen, the Indiana coach should not lead and will not leave. Well,
he's making eighteen years old. I don't know. I mean
he's making eight million. It's his program. They just went
to Oregon and won. Why can't they win with a
transfer portal in the nil If you have support from
your donor base, why do you have to go to Alabama?
Alabama doesn't have the money of right now, of USC,
(41:20):
they don't have the money of Notre Dame. They don't
have the money of Oregon. Alabama now looks pretty ordinary?
Why they don't have the donors to step up?
Speaker 4 (41:28):
They're not ordinary? The kid Tie Simpsons.
Speaker 1 (41:30):
Amazing, he's good. He may go, he may go higher
in the draft, go to the mock drafts, he's a
first rounder. Our two Colin right, Colin wrong, and the
money
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