October 16, 2025 • 41 mins
Colin Cowherd dives into Aaron Rodgers and the Pittsburgh Steelers hot start. Colin explains why Steelers fans shouldn't get too excited just yet, despite the early season success.
He gives his thoughts on the NIL not ruining college sports and Notre Dame vs USC this weekend
Plus, he shares his thoughts on Bo Nix and why the Broncos QB is being overcriticized by the media.
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Speaker 1 (00:26):
Okay, here we go on a Thursday. We are ready
to roll Steeler Cincinnati tonight, Greg co Sell in one hour.
It's The Herd. Wherever you may be and however you
may be listening. Thanks for making us part of your day. Look, Jmac, Tonight,
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I try to stay away from games that have backup
quarterbacks against old quarterbacks, but tonight the Steelers are at
Cincinnati and gonna I'm gonna ask for something. It's not
a big thing, but for anybody that is a Steeler fan,
let's start our show with this. All you yiners out there,
I'm just asking It's a small favor. I don't think
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you're capable of a big favor with your Steelers. You're
very emotional. I'm asking a small favor. At about eleven
thirty pm, two night Eastern, you're probably going to be
five and one, and I just want you to add
a little perspective realizing you have beaten Justin Fields, Dylan Gabriel,
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Carson Wentz, and forty year old Joe Flacko by eleven
thirty pm tonight, I'm just asking for a little perspective.
Let's put it this way. Your first five games all
green lights driving to work. That's you know, we all
get that. We all get that about once a month.
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You're like, man, I got all green lights work with
an eleven minute drive, not a thirty minute drive. Aaron
Rodgers is not throwing the ball down the field. The
offense is ranked very low, but because of the big
body types, they don't have to take risks. And I
have said, I think it's very smart football by Aaron Rodgers.
But after tonight, go grab your pocket. Schedule it sort
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of changes. Next up the Packers, then maybe the best
offensive line in football, a team that is humming Indianapolis.
Then at Justin Herbert. By the way, Joe alt will
be back, Hampton will be back, Khalil Mack will be
back at Chicago, Buffalo at Baltimore, with Lamar at Detroit
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Baltimore again. And this is precisely what I predicted you
did this last year. I said, last year, you're gonna
be nine to eight, ten wins, and but it'll be
rough down the stretch. And it was this year I
said you're gonna win eight or nine games. You're gonna
be eight to nine and nine and eight. It's gonna
start hot. This is a Mike Tomlin trend going back
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to like twenty twenty, that he's very emotional, very raw, raw,
very inspiring, and that stuff wears off by about week eleven,
and it comes down to scheme health quarterback play, of
which the Steelers since Big Ben got Old hasn't been
very good. Last year you were ten and three, and
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then the rest of the way, including a playoff game,
you were zero and five. So you have played one
good team Pittsburgh Seattle. They averaged six point two yards
of play. Sam Darnold didn't even play well, and they
blew out in Pittsburgh. So right now your offense is
ranked twenty ninth, your defense is ranked twenty fifth. Five
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and one is what we call football inflation. At eleven
thirty PM tonight, Mike Tomlin teams go back a few years,
start hot, motivation stuff wears off pomp, bombs, put in
the ground. Best teams win late. So you're gonna beat
Joe Flackow and Cincinnati, you're gonna beat him. But Robert Mays,
podcaster writer for the Athletics, said, if you look at
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the data, if you look at the analytics, Aaron playing
safe works. Now. It probably doesn't work against Josh Allen,
Lamar Jackson, Jordan Love, Justin Herbert, Here's Robert. He can
still pin the ball on guys.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
But ultimately, when you're playing against the Broncos defense on
divisional weekend, you're going to need to read stuff out
and access different parts of the play than whatever your
first immediate one on one opportunity is. And I still
don't think we've seen him.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
Do that enough.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
And I think now he's been able to exist in
this box and it's been okay. If you push him
outside of that, I think that's where things get a
little bit dice. You think you can feel him not
wanting to sit in the pocket very long and read
stuff out a little bit deeper into these plays.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
We saw that with an older Brady, we saw that
with an older Eli. We're seeing it with an older Aaron.
You will be five and one tonight. And I like
what Pittsburgh's doing right now because, as I've said multiple times,
this is how Aaron should be playing now. Big body
type advantages, the defense makes plays, and a good solid defense.
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It's not great little old in spots. Takes advantage of
flacos and Wentz's and Dylan Gabriels and young quarterbacks. That's
what it does, all right. So this week USC plays
Notre Dame and I was reading an article today. Is
the annual Notre Dame USC football game that big of
a deal anymore? Well, it's a big deal. It's not
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Ohio State and Michigan. I don't know if it's Auburn
Alabama certainly close. Is at Oklahoma Texas. It's one of
those traditional rivalries. But tradition, Let's be honest. You can
pay high school players now the portal. You can get
sixty new players a year. The college football Playoff. Traditionalists
have had a really rough last three years, and they
all lectured us and told us college football was in
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big trouble. No, it's not. Ratings of it up back
to back years. It's great. So ask yourself about USC
Notre Dame. Is it convenient. Is it necessary? Well not
for USC. This relationship has become uneven and when they do,
it's time to renegotiate. Consider USC, Trump and Notre Dame NATO.
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We need to sit down and talk because Notre Dame
needs this game because they're not one hundred percent in
a conference. They lost to an M and Miami. They
desperately need to beat USC and then USC to win
the rest of their games. They need USC. Now, the
Indiana Hoosiers are a powerhouse. Apparently USC has nine games
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a year. They will include Ohio State and Michigan and
Penn State and now Indiana and Nebraska. Looks okay, and
your rival UCLA that beat Penn State and Washington and Oregon.
This game is not convenient and it's not necessary. Right
for USC, this game is just one more roadblock to
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the playoff. For Notre Dame, it's a necessity to potentially
get to the playoff. So if I was Jen Cohen,
I would say, Okay, we'll do it every other year
and the game has to be played in September. We
have no interest going playing in a blizzard. But what
I thought, what, okay, join the Big Ten Conference, then
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we'll play USC does not need Notre Dame. This is uneven.
Notre Dame desperately needs USC. Go look at Notre Dame schedule,
it's a lot of Navy, North Carolina State from a
bad conference, the ACC. There's just a lot of games here, Stanford,
boisea State, Boston College. Notre Dame needs SC. And then
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if you look at USC, even with losing to Illinois,
but they beat Michigan, what if they beat Nebraska? What
if they beat Notre Dame or Oregon, they don't need
Notre Dame. So I would sit down, this is now
an uneven relationship, and I would say, I'm willing to
play you every other year, but it's going to be
in the first four to five weeks of the season.
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That's what negotiations are all about. This is not convenient
to USC anymore. It is simply a hurdle, especially if
Marcus Freeman stays there for the next eight years, a
top five college coach. What am I getting out of it?
And all you traditionalists that get upset. You also lectured
us that the nil was going to ruin the sport,
didn't you lectured us that the portal would ruin the sport?
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Hasn't that the College Football Playoff would just kill rivalries. No,
it's going to create new ones. Michigan Notre Dame used
to play every year. They don't. Michigan Sin's won a
national championship and Notre Dame is once again a power.
So I think Notre Dame wins this weekend, and I
think Marcus Freeman's got it rolling and they're a better
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team than they were a month ago. So is USC perhaps,
but this game with cold weather, better quarterback, butotentially better
consistent run game is going to be a Notre Dame weekend.
But I see this all the time. I see this
with AI. Everybody's saying, oh, it's going to ruin the economy.
I'll argue it's going to expand it. Every time we've
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had a new energy or something. You know, it could
be fire, it could be the internet, it could be AI.
What happens the economy grows. Everybody's terrified of AI. I'm taking.
I'm like, yeah, it'll display some lower level you know,
the lower level jobs, absolutely, but it will expand the economy.
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And my take on the College Football Playoff and the
NI own the portal, it'll expand college football it'll feel bigger,
more big games, and so USC does not have a
big game shortage. There will be years USC will look
at their schedule, You and I will look at the
schedule and go, we got to play Ohio State at
Penn State, at Indiana at Oregon. Yeah, we get Washington
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and Michigan at home. There'll be years USC's like yikes.
So all the traditionalists freak out. Baseball traditionalists pitchclock, bigger bases,
baseball's ratings up, baseball attendants up, baseball speed up. Traditionalist
college football is going to ruin it. You can keep
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wearing that letterman jacket and telling me USC Notre dames
a must. The world's changed. This is twenty twenty five.
Now I have to face my biggest rivals in the
PAC twelve Washington, Oregon, UCLA and Michigan, Penn State, Ohio
State and now Indiana's good. Welcome on a Thursday, Greg
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Cosel one hour from now. Get a lot of feedback,
Get a lot of pushback on that. But you kept
telling me and il portal was going to ruin the sport.
No it hasn't. The great teams are still great. Ohio
State still rolls Georgia and Bammer still excellent. Notre Dame's
really good, Texas has all sorts of talent, SODA's USC Oregon,
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all the good teams are still good. And by the way,
since the NIL was created, we have a new power, potentially, Indiana.
I thought the NIL and the transfer portal were gonna
hurt the little guy. We got a little guy now
from a basketball school that just went to Austin and
pushed the ducks all over the field. So a little
guy has emerged potentially as a legitimate big time program.
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Nebraska's been dead for twenty five years. Now they got
a winning record, They're on a roll. So the NIL
and the transfer portal have not hurt the little guy
at all. Oh, by the way, Texas Tech is now
vying for the playoff. Indiana got into the playoff, So
I don't buy all this traditionalist nonsense, all this fear
mongering at all. College football has never been better and
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it could survive with Notre Dame USC playing every other
year in September. That will, unfortunately be met by the
traditionalists who just don't like any By the way, the
NBA LUCA goes Dallas to Los Angeles it was going
to ruin the Mavericks. Mavericks are still good. They got
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Cooper Flag, they got the best front line in the league.
They're gigantic, they'll be a playoff team. They'll be viable.
Everybody's telling me stuff's going to end sports and enfranchise.
How about baseball? Dodgers have too much money, Mariners have
a lead in the American League, or yeah, in the
Mimeric League championship series, the Milwaukee Brewers are playing the Dodgers.
All I heard about is oh, this is oh my god,
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all is the money in baseball? Yeah, the Dodgers are great.
The Yankees are out. The Mets didn't make the playoffs,
so I think we're fine.
Speaker 5 (12:42):
Well, speaking of money, all it takes is somebody to
pony up and say, hey, USC and Notre Dame, we
will pay you a lot of money to play every year.
And you know these programs, they would love to take
money hand over fist for a meeting every year, right, Colin, would.
Speaker 6 (12:56):
You agree with that? If the numbers right?
Speaker 5 (12:58):
If somebody came streaming network said hey, we'll give you
ten million dollars to play a football game one off
every year, wouldn't they don't.
Speaker 6 (13:06):
You think they would do it well?
Speaker 1 (13:09):
Listen, college football was an eight billion dollar annual business
with no president, no CEO. Think about that. The reason
UFC took over boxing is Dana White. They had a
central figure, a centralized CEO president to make call. Boxing
just had greedy promoters and so college football for years,
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it had its opportunity to get it back together. But
the Big Ten would play nine conference games, the SEC
would play eight conference games. Some teams powerhouses are playing
Youngstown State and Citadel. Other teams are going out of
conference playing Auburn and legitimate Oregon. So it was an uneven,
poorly run sport. So ESPN and Fox came in and said,
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we're going to kind of run this thing. We're going
to make some changes. All of them are worked. The
playoffs going to be bigger and bigger every year. Now
you have venture capital firms in New York and San
Francisco and Los Angeles that want to invest in programs.
The Big ten may take two billion dollars from like
a VC. So I mean, I I just I constantly hear.
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I don't mean to be a wet blanket, But there's
so much fear mongering in politics and sports. It's all
gonna be okay. USC Notre Dame play every other year
in September. It's fine. There's new rivalries every year. Now
with this the scheduling and the Big ten, the PAC twelve,
the PAC twelve disappeared, and yet the ratings are up.
It was I went an entire conference left, and the
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sports growing and great.
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said when I thought Caleb Williams was going to be really,
really good, and Justin Fields probably never will be. I
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when I first moved to Chicago, people would say, oh,
Justin Fields, Well that ship has sailed three teams not working.
Caleb Williams has apparent, I think to some degree, has
turned the corner. He's not there yet. He still misses
on accuracy. But young quarterbacks are tough to judge. Sometimes
they shock you how good they are right out of
the gate Jaden Daniels, and then some shock you how
good they get quickly in you know, year two, Drake May.
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Some are a work in progress Caleb Williams, Michael Pennix,
and some say bow Nicks. I don't think bone Nicks
as a work in progress. I think he's a franchise
quarterback that I wish would run more. He did last year,
he stopped doing it this year. He's highly effective, and
I think he should run more. But I saw a
story today about bow Knicks. How to make bow Nicks better?
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Read the headline. Well, he's twenty three NFL starts in
His completion percentage is sixty six percent. Good enough to
get you to a Super Bowl. Forty three total touchdowns,
seventeen turnovers, pretty good beginning of year two. Passer ratings
low nineties ninety two. I'd rather have it at ninety
seven ninety eight. But he's fourteen and nine in a
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division with Spags, Jesse Minter and now Pete Carroll, Max Crosby,
Chris Jones, Khalil Mack, great, great edge rushers, great top
of the league defensive guys, Jesse Minner and Spags. He's
fourteen and nine, and my takeaway is Michael Pennix and
Caleb Williams are working progress. Drake and Jaden and bow
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Nicks they work. So I will tell you what I've
noticed with bow Knicks, because I think Denver's the third
best team in the league. He's got to get better
throwing the ball down the field. If you look at
all the data from the line of scrimmage to thirteen
yards fifteen yards actually or fewer right slot fifteen yards
in passer ratings ninety five, completes seventy two percent of
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his throws, twenty seven touchdown, seven picks downfield, sixteen eighteen
twenty three chunk plays. He has struggled. I don't think
he's ever going to be a great deep ball thrower.
But when Brady had Randy Moss, that was the time.
He didn't win a Super Bowl. And Patrick Mahomes with
a huge arm, is actually better and winning more Super
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Bowls since Tyreek Hill was traded. Jalen Hurts just won
a Super Bowl and he struggles getting it to his
deep guy aj Brown, so bow Knicks doesn't take sacks,
seize the field. He's very accurate. He needs to be
better down the field. Courtland, Sutton, Mims, Franklin, those guys
can get down the field and beat coverage and separate.
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But I think it's established. I think Drake made Jaden
Daniels and Bowl. These are franchise quarterbacks, Caleb and Pennix.
I think both are gonna work. One's a great athlete,
one's got a beautiful throwing release. I think those eventually work.
The other thing you could argue beyond running. He stopped
running this year, and I've argued for years, when you're
a young quarterback for the Verse two and a half years,
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run to move the chains as you're figuring out defenses. Right,
Patrick Mahomes admitted year three lights went on, play slowed down.
Russell Wilson said that years ago Brady has said that
get into year three, everything slows down. It's the beginning
of year two. Bow Knicks ran a lot last year.
This year he's trying to master the pocket. Don't it'll come,
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run more and speed it up, speed the tempo. Bo
Nicks talked about that.
Speaker 8 (18:57):
I just like it because it gets the defense off balance.
They you know, don't have many calls that they can
get to, and you go quick and we just played
well from you quick game and getting to the ball,
seeing what they're in, just finding answers and going I
think it. It's just tough on defense, has always has been.
I think that's the biggest reason is because it limits
what a defense can do.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
People kept telling me, justin fields was it last year
against Mahomes and Reeds Spags Herbert Khalil Mack, there was
a Bosa, there was justin Herbert Bonis made the playoffs
and they're still carrying dead cap money. Bonis is a
franchise quarterback. May never throw a great deep ball. Other
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than that, he's good. J Mack with the news, Turn
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Speaker 2 (19:46):
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Speaker 5 (19:49):
All right, Colin, let's start with the Philadelphia Eagles. This
two game losing streak. It's a big story in Philadelphia.
Nick Sirianni's talking about the team's mindset going on the
road to Minne to this league.
Speaker 9 (20:01):
You're always working on identifying your your issues and identifying
your strengths and like working to get better from it. That's,
you know, that's that's what we do. You know, that's
that's the things you think about. Every Every teams a
little different, Every message could be a little bit different
based off of where you are or where the team is,
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and so you know, you you I think where confidence
comes from is your process and the things that you
go through on a weekly basis, the things that you
can control on a weekly basis to put yourself in
the best position to succeed. Confidence also comes from past
experiences and knowing that you've been there, you've done these
things before.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Yeah, this is a nightmare spot for Philly vikings with
an offensive coach on a buy, Mitchell may not play
at corner for the Eagles. It's one of the loudest
places to play. Kevin O'Connell with a little extra time,
you know, We've said this, all buys are not equal,
Andy Reid, Sean Payton. Offensive coaches with a buy or
extra time are really dangerous. Minnesota's got a real home
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field advantage here. You have self doubt questioned. I don't
think you can fix them because you have a little
extra time if you're Philly Minnesota. This is a rough
spot for Philly.
Speaker 5 (21:17):
Interesting, Yeah, the Mitchell injury, Today's the injury report that
will matter.
Speaker 6 (21:21):
Jalen carter landon Dickerson.
Speaker 5 (21:24):
Obviously you need quinnyon Mitchell to match up with Justin
Jefferson on the outside.
Speaker 6 (21:27):
Colin.
Speaker 5 (21:28):
I'll just say this though, you said Minnesota is a
tough place to play, if memory serves, Michael Pennix went
in there a few weeks ago and they got an
easy dub.
Speaker 6 (21:35):
Now it was.
Speaker 5 (21:36):
Against JJ McCarthy, but you know Carson Wentz revenge spot. Possibly,
I don't know. All the sharp guys are betting Minnesota here. Yeah,
this is a team back against the wall Philly that
usually shows up if.
Speaker 6 (21:52):
They lose this.
Speaker 5 (21:52):
I think it's Defcon one and I would not be
surprised by a trade of some kind. But I think
Philly gets the job done. I'm not betting it, but
I like the Eagles here.
Speaker 6 (22:00):
All right, let's move on Colin to another.
Speaker 5 (22:03):
Team we love talking about this week, Mike Vrabel and
his revenge spot for the New England Patriots.
Speaker 6 (22:09):
He's going back to Tennessee. He's got Drake May.
Speaker 5 (22:12):
Drake May has been an unbelievable quarterback this season.
Speaker 6 (22:16):
And you know, wouldn't you look at that?
Speaker 5 (22:18):
Since Week two we got some numbers here for Drake May.
He has been borderline incredible. Now again, one lost record,
you said, it's a quarterback stat man complete, a percentage
up there, passer rating.
Speaker 6 (22:30):
He's been phenomenal.
Speaker 5 (22:31):
Now he hasn't faced a murderer's row of defenses. There
was a Saints of Steelers. I'm not ready to crown him,
but Drake May has certainly been everything that I thought
he would be coming out.
Speaker 6 (22:45):
Remember, I'm the one guy who thought he'd be better
than Jayden Daniels.
Speaker 5 (22:47):
I was wrong for a year, but now maybe jay
Mack might have been honest something.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
Now I don't think it's too early to crown him.
I thought Jayden Daniels last year. By week three, you're like,
it's a franchise quarterback. Quick decision maker accurate. I don't
think it. I think Drake May, Jade and Daniels are
absolute hits, and I think Caleb's going to work in
Penix is going to work now. Bo Nix is a hit.
People don't want to admit it. In that division. Harbaugh,
Andy Reid spags, Jesse Minner made the playoffs going up
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against Mahomes and Herbert and Khalil Mack and you know,
I mean there's real Chris Jones. So fourteen and nine
it's a hit. Drake May works if you watch him moves, big,
good arm, accurate, quick decisions, nice kid, no ego. That's
a franchise school. I don't think you have to deep
dive and look at the When I watch him play
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accurate in the pocket, seize the field, accurate, moving, good arm,
There's nothing else I need to see. And he can
move if he has to.
Speaker 6 (23:46):
Now, you know, as a gambler, I'm always looking for value. Colin.
Speaker 5 (23:48):
This might sound crazy, but if you look at that
Patriot schedule, we talked about how soft it is, why
would we at least look to bet them as the
number one seed in the AFC. I don't think they're
the best team, but the schedule Colin again, just take
a look at it, cam Ward, Dylan Gabriel, Michael Pennix.
That Michael Pennix games outdoors in New England. You got
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to go to Baker Mayfield, which is tough the Jets.
Speaker 6 (24:13):
That's a win.
Speaker 5 (24:13):
I don't know if Joe Burrow's going to be back Colin.
They this could be a thirteen win team. Should we
be betting them to get the number one seed?
Speaker 6 (24:21):
Again? They're not going to go to the super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
Do you remember when Mike Vrabel he lost to Cincinnati
at Holme The Burrow team that made the Super Bowl.
Wasn't that Tennessee team with Ryan Tannehill and Mike Rabel.
Weren't they a number one seed?
Speaker 6 (24:33):
Derrick Henry, Yeah, they were the number one seed.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
They were a number one seed more of a running
team than a throwing team. If you can be a
number one seed with Ryan Tannehill, you can be a
number one seed with Drake may It's a good take.
It's not crazy. I said they were the easiest team
on the board. Double your wins, easiest, easiest. I mean
you had three hundred million dollars. Mike Rabel a quarterback.
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If you go to last year, New England was poorly
co coach and didn't have enough talent and was in
a lot of one possession losses. They were in close
games all to their schedule. New England's going to win
double digit games. Thirteen is not out of the question
if they stay healthy.
Speaker 5 (25:13):
And I should add listen, the Buffalo team obviously was going.
Speaker 6 (25:16):
To be the best team in the league.
Speaker 5 (25:17):
They already beat Buffalo in Buffalo, So if they have
bird in hand essentially going into that second Buffalo matchup,
if they win that, they're winning the AFC East, right,
and then maybe the number one seeds not out of
the question. Colin, I think there could be a decent
bet if you're interesting member.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
The Jets and the Dolphins are a mess. So if
you beat Buffalo even once, you get four wins on
the other side, So, I mean they play that division
looked tough, but the NFC East and the AFC East
over the last month have deteriorated. Washington, I mean, the
Giants actually have a spark, They're not great. Dallas has
no defense, Philadelphia is struggling. We thought that had a
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chance to be you know, Washington and Philadelphia and no
it's a bad division.
Speaker 9 (25:59):
Now.
Speaker 5 (26:00):
Yeah, the final story is Major League Baseball Vlad Junior.
Oh my gosh, what a game four for four? He
just missed the cycle. He did not get a triple.
But the Blue Jays win thirteen to four. Game four,
the Mariners will be leading two to one. Are you
concerned at all for your Seattle team or was this
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just a typical letdown?
Speaker 1 (26:23):
No, you got to get a couple more games in Seattle.
I think Seattle's a really good team. As we have
watched all postseason. The reason the Dodgers are dominating is
not bats Otani can't hit. It's because of starting pitching.
And last night Seattle starting pitching was not good enough
and they got their Blue Jays had several big innings. Toronto.
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Didn't they lead the American League in hits. You're not
sweeping Toronto. I don't think the Dodgers are gonna sweep Milwaukee.
I don't. I think Milwaukee's too good. I think these
final four teams are too good to be swept. And
this was going to happen was uglier than I thought.
But Toronto's a real team. I mean, just don't forget
how they disposed of the Yankees. They really rolled them
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three times, so it's uh, this was bound to have.
Speaker 6 (27:10):
I'll say this, Colin. Fun fact about me.
Speaker 5 (27:13):
The first baseball stadium I ever went to was SkyDome.
My family has a bunch of friends in Canada. Beautiful,
beautiful stadium. And these throwback jerseys the Blue Jays wore
last night, those are fire. I love them, Aronte of
all the Blue Jays that I used to love back
in the day, Colin, I actually used to like the
Toronto Blue Jays just because of the.
Speaker 6 (27:32):
Uniforms and the play. Jesse Barfield, George Beld. I mean,
it was so many good players back.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
It wasn't one of their first great players. Otto Valez.
Look it up.
Speaker 6 (27:42):
Now you're dating me. Come on, man, I know I
can't do that.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
You know, no shaded auto valves on the show. I
go way, I go to the Expos. At least you
start talking, you know, you start talking these seventies and
eighties expansion teams. You got no shot. J mcklenews, Well,
that's the news, and thanks for stopping by the herd
line news. Yeah, the Jays led baseball in hits and
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on base percentage. This is going to happen. So I
saw a story this morning. I thought the Cowboys would
win four to five games and have a top seven pick.
Dak looks better than ever, and the coaching staff, at
least on the offensive side, is functional. And I'm very
critical of Jerry Jones, but there's two things he got
right recently that you cannot deny. Number One, the George
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Pickens trade for a third round pick with sensational He's
been tremendous, especially with the Ceede Lamb injury. And the
other thing that I think matters in the NFL. They're entertaining.
It's a good TV product. Jerry once again hired an
offensive coach. He knows where the league is going. If
you watch the Jets or Cleveland, the Saints or the Titans,
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it's bad television. The Commander's Cowboys this weekend. If I
told you thirty three thirty field goal wins it, you
wouldn't be shocked. Titans are never going to be in
games like that, either of the Jets this point forward.
But the Mica trade, I like, gave the organization flexibility.
The Pickens moves turned out great, and they're the number
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one TV show in the country. I mean go look
at the numbers of NFL football. It's the number one
TV show, ninety six out of the top one hundred shows.
And so the Titans and Jets are bad TV. And
you're saying, what does that have to do with anything?
It has to do with the vibe. There's a difference
between being hopeless and hopeful. What's the difference both teams
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are bad Titans and Cowboys. You can argue, what's the
difference in life between hopeless and hopeful? Momentum? What's it
look like? What's it feel like? If I was a
free agent, I look at the Cowboys and I think
they have two first round picks. If they get the
best edge rusher and the top corner Kenny Clark, go
spend some money. Now they have flexibility. You can fix
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that thing in the year. Folks, will got new England's
done in a year with a new coaching staff, you
can fix in a year. Look what look what Harbaugh did?
Worst defense to first defense, same guys one year. So
they're they're the Dallas vibe is entertaining big offense, Ceedee Lamb,
George Pickens, Javonte Williams. They just need a better defense.
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It's a very hopeful, optimistic next twelve months. Jets don't
have the quarterback, don't have the coach. I'm not sure
if they have the vibe or the ownership. Are they distracted?
The Cowboys feel promising Pickens flexibility? Two first round picks?
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I mean, I George Pickens. I do wonder what happens
when Ceedee Lamb comes back, maybe this weekend and takes
a lot of those targets. How does he? How does
that land for George Pickens? But Jerry says they would
consider a long term deal with.
Speaker 10 (30:53):
Will Wait that we knew full well that if things
really went like we won't to go that. Certainly we
need to think about having some room available if we're
going to pay a second receiver at that level.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
You never want to be bad and boring. If you're
not very good. Cowboys aren't bad. If you're not very good,
but wildly entertaining agents, pro athletes, coaches, you can sell that.
Try selling the Titans to a free agent. Try selling
the dysfunctional Jets to a free agent. Dak Ceedee Lamb,
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George Pickens, Devonte Williams. Two first round picks in this league,
you could absolutely see next year if they nail their
first two picks, first three picks two first, a second,
all defensive guys two out of three hit big one starts,
you don't think they can change it, so you got
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to give credit. I like the Mica deal, the Pickens deal.
They went with an offensive coach, way better than I thought.
I When I think of the Cowboys right now, I
do not put them close. If you look at right
now the top ten picks in the draft, it's a
lot of sad sack organizations. It's a lot of Cleveland Jets, Saints, Titans,
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Speaker 1 (33:54):
By the way, j Mac, you don't want me to
go rain Man. So the Mariners and the Blue Jays
engine teams in like seventy seven. And so I was
a huge Mariner fan. I can give you the entire
roster right now. No, we're good, We're good.
Speaker 6 (34:06):
We're good.
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We're good.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
Huh.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
And I told you Otto the swatow Otto Valez was
the guy that driving in the runs I think he
came from the Yankees, went to Toronto in seventy seven
and he was their RBI guy.
Speaker 5 (34:16):
He sounds like my vape guy out here in California,
Otto the Suato sounds like a very off the books
kind of guy.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
And in nineteen seventy six, I think it was seventy
six to seventy seven, the Seahawks and the Buccaneers were
also expansion teams. The Seahawks had a great offense with
Jim Zorn and Largent and Sherman Smith. The Bucks had
a Selman. They had a great defense. We're terrible on offense.
So if you had taken the Seahawks offense and the
Bucks defense, you had a great team. But Tampa couldn't
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score for about three years. The Seahawks couldn't stop a
noseley for three years. So that was my fandom started.
I mean, like when I was a kid, there were
no teams in the Northwest outside of the Blazers. I
think the Sonics had been there for about an hour.
But my football and baseball stuff I had, I was
a Yankee, Red Sox fil not Red Sox, Phillies, Pirates,
Reds Royals, a little bit of the Yankees. Those are
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my teams. So you don't want to you don't want
to push me on, Blue Jays, Mariners, Bucks, Seahawks.
Speaker 6 (35:11):
I how was the blazon five back then? How was
that cooking with Leroy Selman and the Bucks or whatever?
Speaker 1 (35:20):
My parents weren't gamblers. I will tell you this. So
it's coming up here in a few weeks, the trade deadline.
And there's a story this morning. We've been We've been
saying this now for a week. Keep your eye on
the Chargers running back in offensive tackle. So this is
what I've been saying. And here's how I view the
trade deadline. Buffalo, Bills, Chargers, Rams, go get help. You
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have superstar quarterbacks. If you do not have a great quarterback,
don't That's what bad teams do. I hear all these
Jalen waddle to the Giants, rumors, stupid Giant. Think about
it this way. Think about free agency like it's similar
to poker. What's your hand? The Giants have a pair
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of pocket twos scataboo and Jackson dart and nice twos.
You're not winning the hand. Okay, you got Herbert Allen Stafford. Okay,
that's a pair of Kings. That's a pair of aces.
Take a swing now. Khalil Mack may play this weekend
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against the Colts. Joe Alt is coming back in the
next couple of weeks. Hampton's coming back as well. And
if you didn't go to the trade deadline, the Chargers
feel like to me they're a playoff team. With Alt
at left tackle, Hampton back at running back, and Khalil Mack,
they will Those are three elite players. I don't think
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you need a big swing. Keep your eye on Alvin
Kamara as a backup running back from the Saints. Keep
your eye now, Caroline. He's got a young running back,
but he just had a monster weekend against the Cowboys.
Rico Daddle used to be a Cowboy, had a great week.
I don't think Carolina in that week division Carolina thinks
they may be a playoff team. I think you could
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get him in three weeks when they're not a playoff team.
It doesn't look like it because I think Atlanta and
Tampa are just better. But when I look at the
trade deadline, who's your quarterback? Bills, you can't stop the run.
That's how you lose games. In January, Josh Allen doesn't
get on the field. Buffalo make a move doesn't have
to be a gigantic swing, something on the interior of
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the defense, Chargers, a backup swing tackle or a running back.
Hampton's been hurt once. Running backs get hurt a lot,
and then you know you're the Rams. You got to
get a legit corner. You need a big corner. In
my opinion, I don't think they're massive swings. I think
all the teams are good enough to win multiple playoff games,
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but the coaching's better in the playoffs, and your weaknesses
will be exposed. And the Chargers at running back and tackle,
the Rams at corner, and the Bills interior defense, the
good teams will take advantage of it. So this morning
this made me laugh. This morning I went and looked
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at the current draft order in the NFL. I mean, honestly,
it looks like the last ten years. The current draft
order in the NFL. I'm gonna name nine of the
top ten teams. Stop me if you've heard them before. Jets, Brown's, Dolphin, Saints, Titans, Bengals, Raiders, Giants, Cardinals.
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Baltimore is in there, but when Lamar comes back, they'll
reel off wins. And I've said this before. Winning a
Super Bowl is really really hard. Winning in the NFL
is not that hard. Take New England dynasty for twenty
plus years with Belichick and Brady. They have back to
back four and thirteen seasons. Then they hire of Rabel,
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they have Drake May, they spend money in a free agency.
Right now they're in first place. So some of these
teams do really dumb things. I mean, take Miami, they
could have drafted Herbert, a bigger, stronger, more dynamic arm
over Tua. They chose Tua. Then Tua has multiple concussion issues,
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they sign him to an extension and don't protect them
with a great o' line. Take Cleveland, they pass on Mahomes,
then they draft cocky Johnny Manziel. I'm a radio TV guy,
I warned you. And then they give up three first
round picks and guarantee the contract with Shaun Watson while
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he's in litigation. So Miami and Cleveland, you've earned it.
You're bad for a reason. Tennessee, you let Mike Rabel go.
Not great, But New England proves for the next day
they're going to be really good. Minimum Vrabel's got ten
years left coach minimum. Drake may is going to play
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ten years minimum if he doesn't get hurt. So it's
it's I will tell you With the New York Jets,
there's four things I would do in this order. Number one,
I would keep Aaron Glenn for the rest of the
season for a lot of reasons. I want to clean
coaching search and I don't think he's going to turn
it around losses or wins. I would keep Aaron Glenn
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at the end of the season. Do not trade away
any of your best players. Remember when Carolina traded Dj Moore,
they get Bryce Young. He's got no number one receiver.
Keep your best players, stay out of the trade deadline stuff.
Hire an offensive coach at the end of the year
after letting Aaron go, and then just draft the best
college quarterback available and let it bake for a few years.
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It may not turn it around overnight. Keep Aaron, stay
out of the trade deadline stuff, stay out of it.
Don't give up Bresee Hall, don't give up Garrett Wilson,
Quinn Williams, keep your best players, keep your co coach,
then move on. Get an offensive guy, and by the way,
go get Mike McCarthy. Don't get a position coach or
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a college coach or a coordinator. Just go spend money.
That's what the Chargers did for years, and then they went,
you know, let's go spend fifteen million a year and
get Jim Harbaugh at Denver. Let's get Nett Hackett. No,
let's get Sean Payton. Go get Mike McCarthy. Is he
Andy Reid. No, but he's got a Super Bowl ring,
he's dealt with no owner and a needy owner. Go
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get Mike McCarthy. End of the year, draft a quarterback.
Don't do anything at the trade deadline. It's not that complicated.
Hard to win Super Bowls, not hard to be competent.
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Okay, here we go on a Thursday. We are ready
to roll Steeler Cincinnati tonight, Greg co Sell in one hour.
It's The Herd. Wherever you may be and however you
may be listening. Thanks for making us part of your day. Look, Jmac, Tonight,
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I try to stay away from games that have backup
quarterbacks against old quarterbacks, but tonight the Steelers are at
Cincinnati and gonna I'm gonna ask for something. It's not
a big thing, but for anybody that is a Steeler fan,
let's start our show with this. All you yiners out there,
I'm just asking It's a small favor. I don't think
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you're capable of a big favor with your Steelers. You're
very emotional. I'm asking a small favor. At about eleven
thirty pm, two night Eastern, you're probably going to be
five and one, and I just want you to add
a little perspective realizing you have beaten Justin Fields, Dylan Gabriel,
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Carson Wentz, and forty year old Joe Flacko by eleven
thirty pm tonight, I'm just asking for a little perspective.
Let's put it this way. Your first five games all
green lights driving to work. That's you know, we all
get that. We all get that about once a month.
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You're like, man, I got all green lights work with
an eleven minute drive, not a thirty minute drive. Aaron
Rodgers is not throwing the ball down the field. The
offense is ranked very low, but because of the big
body types, they don't have to take risks. And I
have said, I think it's very smart football by Aaron Rodgers.
But after tonight, go grab your pocket. Schedule it sort
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of changes. Next up the Packers, then maybe the best
offensive line in football, a team that is humming Indianapolis.
Then at Justin Herbert. By the way, Joe alt will
be back, Hampton will be back, Khalil Mack will be
back at Chicago, Buffalo at Baltimore, with Lamar at Detroit
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Baltimore again. And this is precisely what I predicted you
did this last year. I said, last year, you're gonna
be nine to eight, ten wins, and but it'll be
rough down the stretch. And it was this year I
said you're gonna win eight or nine games. You're gonna
be eight to nine and nine and eight. It's gonna
start hot. This is a Mike Tomlin trend going back
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to like twenty twenty, that he's very emotional, very raw, raw,
very inspiring, and that stuff wears off by about week eleven,
and it comes down to scheme health quarterback play, of
which the Steelers since Big Ben got Old hasn't been
very good. Last year you were ten and three, and
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then the rest of the way, including a playoff game,
you were zero and five. So you have played one
good team Pittsburgh Seattle. They averaged six point two yards
of play. Sam Darnold didn't even play well, and they
blew out in Pittsburgh. So right now your offense is
ranked twenty ninth, your defense is ranked twenty fifth. Five
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and one is what we call football inflation. At eleven
thirty PM tonight, Mike Tomlin teams go back a few years,
start hot, motivation stuff wears off pomp, bombs, put in
the ground. Best teams win late. So you're gonna beat
Joe Flackow and Cincinnati, you're gonna beat him. But Robert Mays,
podcaster writer for the Athletics, said, if you look at
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the data, if you look at the analytics, Aaron playing
safe works. Now. It probably doesn't work against Josh Allen,
Lamar Jackson, Jordan Love, Justin Herbert, Here's Robert. He can
still pin the ball on guys.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
But ultimately, when you're playing against the Broncos defense on
divisional weekend, you're going to need to read stuff out
and access different parts of the play than whatever your
first immediate one on one opportunity is. And I still
don't think we've seen him.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
Do that enough.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
And I think now he's been able to exist in
this box and it's been okay. If you push him
outside of that, I think that's where things get a
little bit dice. You think you can feel him not
wanting to sit in the pocket very long and read
stuff out a little bit deeper into these plays.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
We saw that with an older Brady, we saw that
with an older Eli. We're seeing it with an older Aaron.
You will be five and one tonight. And I like
what Pittsburgh's doing right now because, as I've said multiple times,
this is how Aaron should be playing now. Big body
type advantages, the defense makes plays, and a good solid defense.
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It's not great little old in spots. Takes advantage of
flacos and Wentz's and Dylan Gabriels and young quarterbacks. That's
what it does, all right. So this week USC plays
Notre Dame and I was reading an article today. Is
the annual Notre Dame USC football game that big of
a deal anymore? Well, it's a big deal. It's not
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Ohio State and Michigan. I don't know if it's Auburn
Alabama certainly close. Is at Oklahoma Texas. It's one of
those traditional rivalries. But tradition, Let's be honest. You can
pay high school players now the portal. You can get
sixty new players a year. The college football Playoff. Traditionalists
have had a really rough last three years, and they
all lectured us and told us college football was in
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big trouble. No, it's not. Ratings of it up back
to back years. It's great. So ask yourself about USC
Notre Dame. Is it convenient. Is it necessary? Well not
for USC. This relationship has become uneven and when they do,
it's time to renegotiate. Consider USC, Trump and Notre Dame NATO.
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We need to sit down and talk because Notre Dame
needs this game because they're not one hundred percent in
a conference. They lost to an M and Miami. They
desperately need to beat USC and then USC to win
the rest of their games. They need USC. Now, the
Indiana Hoosiers are a powerhouse. Apparently USC has nine games
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a year. They will include Ohio State and Michigan and
Penn State and now Indiana and Nebraska. Looks okay, and
your rival UCLA that beat Penn State and Washington and Oregon.
This game is not convenient and it's not necessary. Right
for USC, this game is just one more roadblock to
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the playoff. For Notre Dame, it's a necessity to potentially
get to the playoff. So if I was Jen Cohen,
I would say, Okay, we'll do it every other year
and the game has to be played in September. We
have no interest going playing in a blizzard. But what
I thought, what, okay, join the Big Ten Conference, then
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we'll play USC does not need Notre Dame. This is uneven.
Notre Dame desperately needs USC. Go look at Notre Dame schedule,
it's a lot of Navy, North Carolina State from a
bad conference, the ACC. There's just a lot of games here, Stanford,
boisea State, Boston College. Notre Dame needs SC. And then
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if you look at USC, even with losing to Illinois,
but they beat Michigan, what if they beat Nebraska? What
if they beat Notre Dame or Oregon, they don't need
Notre Dame. So I would sit down, this is now
an uneven relationship, and I would say, I'm willing to
play you every other year, but it's going to be
in the first four to five weeks of the season.
(08:07):
That's what negotiations are all about. This is not convenient
to USC anymore. It is simply a hurdle, especially if
Marcus Freeman stays there for the next eight years, a
top five college coach. What am I getting out of it?
And all you traditionalists that get upset. You also lectured
us that the nil was going to ruin the sport,
didn't you lectured us that the portal would ruin the sport?
(08:30):
Hasn't that the College Football Playoff would just kill rivalries. No,
it's going to create new ones. Michigan Notre Dame used
to play every year. They don't. Michigan Sin's won a
national championship and Notre Dame is once again a power.
So I think Notre Dame wins this weekend, and I
think Marcus Freeman's got it rolling and they're a better
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team than they were a month ago. So is USC perhaps,
but this game with cold weather, better quarterback, butotentially better
consistent run game is going to be a Notre Dame weekend.
But I see this all the time. I see this
with AI. Everybody's saying, oh, it's going to ruin the economy.
I'll argue it's going to expand it. Every time we've
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had a new energy or something. You know, it could
be fire, it could be the internet, it could be AI.
What happens the economy grows. Everybody's terrified of AI. I'm taking.
I'm like, yeah, it'll display some lower level you know,
the lower level jobs, absolutely, but it will expand the economy.
(09:37):
And my take on the College Football Playoff and the
NI own the portal, it'll expand college football it'll feel bigger,
more big games, and so USC does not have a
big game shortage. There will be years USC will look
at their schedule, You and I will look at the
schedule and go, we got to play Ohio State at
Penn State, at Indiana at Oregon. Yeah, we get Washington
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and Michigan at home. There'll be years USC's like yikes.
So all the traditionalists freak out. Baseball traditionalists pitchclock, bigger bases,
baseball's ratings up, baseball attendants up, baseball speed up. Traditionalist
college football is going to ruin it. You can keep
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wearing that letterman jacket and telling me USC Notre dames
a must. The world's changed. This is twenty twenty five.
Now I have to face my biggest rivals in the
PAC twelve Washington, Oregon, UCLA and Michigan, Penn State, Ohio
State and now Indiana's good. Welcome on a Thursday, Greg
(10:45):
Cosel one hour from now. Get a lot of feedback,
Get a lot of pushback on that. But you kept
telling me and il portal was going to ruin the sport.
No it hasn't. The great teams are still great. Ohio
State still rolls Georgia and Bammer still excellent. Notre Dame's
really good, Texas has all sorts of talent, SODA's USC Oregon,
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all the good teams are still good. And by the way,
since the NIL was created, we have a new power, potentially, Indiana.
I thought the NIL and the transfer portal were gonna
hurt the little guy. We got a little guy now
from a basketball school that just went to Austin and
pushed the ducks all over the field. So a little
guy has emerged potentially as a legitimate big time program.
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Nebraska's been dead for twenty five years. Now they got
a winning record, They're on a roll. So the NIL
and the transfer portal have not hurt the little guy
at all. Oh, by the way, Texas Tech is now
vying for the playoff. Indiana got into the playoff, So
I don't buy all this traditionalist nonsense, all this fear
mongering at all. College football has never been better and
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it could survive with Notre Dame USC playing every other
year in September. That will, unfortunately be met by the
traditionalists who just don't like any By the way, the
NBA LUCA goes Dallas to Los Angeles it was going
to ruin the Mavericks. Mavericks are still good. They got
(12:13):
Cooper Flag, they got the best front line in the league.
They're gigantic, they'll be a playoff team. They'll be viable.
Everybody's telling me stuff's going to end sports and enfranchise.
How about baseball? Dodgers have too much money, Mariners have
a lead in the American League, or yeah, in the
Mimeric League championship series, the Milwaukee Brewers are playing the Dodgers.
All I heard about is oh, this is oh my god,
(12:35):
all is the money in baseball? Yeah, the Dodgers are great.
The Yankees are out. The Mets didn't make the playoffs,
so I think we're fine.
Speaker 5 (12:42):
Well, speaking of money, all it takes is somebody to
pony up and say, hey, USC and Notre Dame, we
will pay you a lot of money to play every year.
And you know these programs, they would love to take
money hand over fist for a meeting every year, right, Colin, would.
Speaker 6 (12:56):
You agree with that? If the numbers right?
Speaker 5 (12:58):
If somebody came streaming network said hey, we'll give you
ten million dollars to play a football game one off
every year, wouldn't they don't.
Speaker 6 (13:06):
You think they would do it well?
Speaker 1 (13:09):
Listen, college football was an eight billion dollar annual business
with no president, no CEO. Think about that. The reason
UFC took over boxing is Dana White. They had a
central figure, a centralized CEO president to make call. Boxing
just had greedy promoters and so college football for years,
(13:31):
it had its opportunity to get it back together. But
the Big Ten would play nine conference games, the SEC
would play eight conference games. Some teams powerhouses are playing
Youngstown State and Citadel. Other teams are going out of
conference playing Auburn and legitimate Oregon. So it was an uneven,
poorly run sport. So ESPN and Fox came in and said,
(13:52):
we're going to kind of run this thing. We're going
to make some changes. All of them are worked. The
playoffs going to be bigger and bigger every year. Now
you have venture capital firms in New York and San
Francisco and Los Angeles that want to invest in programs.
The Big ten may take two billion dollars from like
a VC. So I mean, I I just I constantly hear.
(14:13):
I don't mean to be a wet blanket, But there's
so much fear mongering in politics and sports. It's all
gonna be okay. USC Notre Dame play every other year
in September. It's fine. There's new rivalries every year. Now
with this the scheduling and the Big ten, the PAC twelve,
the PAC twelve disappeared, and yet the ratings are up.
It was I went an entire conference left, and the
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sports growing and great.
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said when I thought Caleb Williams was going to be really,
really good, and Justin Fields probably never will be. I
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when I first moved to Chicago, people would say, oh,
Justin Fields, Well that ship has sailed three teams not working.
Caleb Williams has apparent, I think to some degree, has
turned the corner. He's not there yet. He still misses
on accuracy. But young quarterbacks are tough to judge. Sometimes
they shock you how good they are right out of
the gate Jaden Daniels, and then some shock you how
good they get quickly in you know, year two, Drake May.
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Some are a work in progress Caleb Williams, Michael Pennix,
and some say bow Nicks. I don't think bone Nicks
as a work in progress. I think he's a franchise
quarterback that I wish would run more. He did last year,
he stopped doing it this year. He's highly effective, and
I think he should run more. But I saw a
story today about bow Knicks. How to make bow Nicks better?
(16:15):
Read the headline. Well, he's twenty three NFL starts in
His completion percentage is sixty six percent. Good enough to
get you to a Super Bowl. Forty three total touchdowns,
seventeen turnovers, pretty good beginning of year two. Passer ratings
low nineties ninety two. I'd rather have it at ninety
seven ninety eight. But he's fourteen and nine in a
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division with Spags, Jesse Minter and now Pete Carroll, Max Crosby,
Chris Jones, Khalil Mack, great, great edge rushers, great top
of the league defensive guys, Jesse Minner and Spags. He's
fourteen and nine, and my takeaway is Michael Pennix and
Caleb Williams are working progress. Drake and Jaden and bow
(16:59):
Nicks they work. So I will tell you what I've
noticed with bow Knicks, because I think Denver's the third
best team in the league. He's got to get better
throwing the ball down the field. If you look at
all the data from the line of scrimmage to thirteen
yards fifteen yards actually or fewer right slot fifteen yards
in passer ratings ninety five, completes seventy two percent of
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his throws, twenty seven touchdown, seven picks downfield, sixteen eighteen
twenty three chunk plays. He has struggled. I don't think
he's ever going to be a great deep ball thrower.
But when Brady had Randy Moss, that was the time.
He didn't win a Super Bowl. And Patrick Mahomes with
a huge arm, is actually better and winning more Super
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Bowls since Tyreek Hill was traded. Jalen Hurts just won
a Super Bowl and he struggles getting it to his
deep guy aj Brown, so bow Knicks doesn't take sacks,
seize the field. He's very accurate. He needs to be
better down the field. Courtland, Sutton, Mims, Franklin, those guys
can get down the field and beat coverage and separate.
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But I think it's established. I think Drake made Jaden
Daniels and Bowl. These are franchise quarterbacks, Caleb and Pennix.
I think both are gonna work. One's a great athlete,
one's got a beautiful throwing release. I think those eventually work.
The other thing you could argue beyond running. He stopped
running this year, and I've argued for years, when you're
a young quarterback for the Verse two and a half years,
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run to move the chains as you're figuring out defenses. Right,
Patrick Mahomes admitted year three lights went on, play slowed down.
Russell Wilson said that years ago Brady has said that
get into year three, everything slows down. It's the beginning
of year two. Bow Knicks ran a lot last year.
This year he's trying to master the pocket. Don't it'll come,
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run more and speed it up, speed the tempo. Bo
Nicks talked about that.
Speaker 8 (18:57):
I just like it because it gets the defense off balance.
They you know, don't have many calls that they can
get to, and you go quick and we just played
well from you quick game and getting to the ball,
seeing what they're in, just finding answers and going I
think it. It's just tough on defense, has always has been.
I think that's the biggest reason is because it limits
what a defense can do.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
People kept telling me, justin fields was it last year
against Mahomes and Reeds Spags Herbert Khalil Mack, there was
a Bosa, there was justin Herbert Bonis made the playoffs
and they're still carrying dead cap money. Bonis is a
franchise quarterback. May never throw a great deep ball. Other
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than that, he's good. J Mack with the news, Turn
on the news.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
This is the Herd line News.
Speaker 5 (19:49):
All right, Colin, let's start with the Philadelphia Eagles. This
two game losing streak. It's a big story in Philadelphia.
Nick Sirianni's talking about the team's mindset going on the
road to Minne to this league.
Speaker 9 (20:01):
You're always working on identifying your your issues and identifying
your strengths and like working to get better from it. That's,
you know, that's that's what we do. You know, that's
that's the things you think about. Every Every teams a
little different, Every message could be a little bit different
based off of where you are or where the team is,
(20:23):
and so you know, you you I think where confidence
comes from is your process and the things that you
go through on a weekly basis, the things that you
can control on a weekly basis to put yourself in
the best position to succeed. Confidence also comes from past
experiences and knowing that you've been there, you've done these
things before.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Yeah, this is a nightmare spot for Philly vikings with
an offensive coach on a buy, Mitchell may not play
at corner for the Eagles. It's one of the loudest
places to play. Kevin O'Connell with a little extra time,
you know, We've said this, all buys are not equal,
Andy Reid, Sean Payton. Offensive coaches with a buy or
extra time are really dangerous. Minnesota's got a real home
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field advantage here. You have self doubt questioned. I don't
think you can fix them because you have a little
extra time if you're Philly Minnesota. This is a rough
spot for Philly.
Speaker 5 (21:17):
Interesting, Yeah, the Mitchell injury, Today's the injury report that
will matter.
Speaker 6 (21:21):
Jalen carter landon Dickerson.
Speaker 5 (21:24):
Obviously you need quinnyon Mitchell to match up with Justin
Jefferson on the outside.
Speaker 6 (21:27):
Colin.
Speaker 5 (21:28):
I'll just say this though, you said Minnesota is a
tough place to play, if memory serves, Michael Pennix went
in there a few weeks ago and they got an
easy dub.
Speaker 6 (21:35):
Now it was.
Speaker 5 (21:36):
Against JJ McCarthy, but you know Carson Wentz revenge spot. Possibly,
I don't know. All the sharp guys are betting Minnesota here. Yeah,
this is a team back against the wall Philly that
usually shows up if.
Speaker 6 (21:52):
They lose this.
Speaker 5 (21:52):
I think it's Defcon one and I would not be
surprised by a trade of some kind. But I think
Philly gets the job done. I'm not betting it, but
I like the Eagles here.
Speaker 6 (22:00):
All right, let's move on Colin to another.
Speaker 5 (22:03):
Team we love talking about this week, Mike Vrabel and
his revenge spot for the New England Patriots.
Speaker 6 (22:09):
He's going back to Tennessee. He's got Drake May.
Speaker 5 (22:12):
Drake May has been an unbelievable quarterback this season.
Speaker 6 (22:16):
And you know, wouldn't you look at that?
Speaker 5 (22:18):
Since Week two we got some numbers here for Drake May.
He has been borderline incredible. Now again, one lost record,
you said, it's a quarterback stat man complete, a percentage
up there, passer rating.
Speaker 6 (22:30):
He's been phenomenal.
Speaker 5 (22:31):
Now he hasn't faced a murderer's row of defenses. There
was a Saints of Steelers. I'm not ready to crown him,
but Drake May has certainly been everything that I thought
he would be coming out.
Speaker 6 (22:45):
Remember, I'm the one guy who thought he'd be better
than Jayden Daniels.
Speaker 5 (22:47):
I was wrong for a year, but now maybe jay
Mack might have been honest something.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
Now I don't think it's too early to crown him.
I thought Jayden Daniels last year. By week three, you're like,
it's a franchise quarterback. Quick decision maker accurate. I don't
think it. I think Drake May, Jade and Daniels are
absolute hits, and I think Caleb's going to work in
Penix is going to work now. Bo Nix is a hit.
People don't want to admit it. In that division. Harbaugh,
Andy Reid spags, Jesse Minner made the playoffs going up
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against Mahomes and Herbert and Khalil Mack and you know,
I mean there's real Chris Jones. So fourteen and nine
it's a hit. Drake May works if you watch him moves, big,
good arm, accurate, quick decisions, nice kid, no ego. That's
a franchise school. I don't think you have to deep
dive and look at the When I watch him play
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accurate in the pocket, seize the field, accurate, moving, good arm,
There's nothing else I need to see. And he can
move if he has to.
Speaker 6 (23:46):
Now, you know, as a gambler, I'm always looking for value. Colin.
Speaker 5 (23:48):
This might sound crazy, but if you look at that
Patriot schedule, we talked about how soft it is, why
would we at least look to bet them as the
number one seed in the AFC. I don't think they're
the best team, but the schedule Colin again, just take
a look at it, cam Ward, Dylan Gabriel, Michael Pennix.
That Michael Pennix games outdoors in New England. You got
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to go to Baker Mayfield, which is tough the Jets.
Speaker 6 (24:13):
That's a win.
Speaker 5 (24:13):
I don't know if Joe Burrow's going to be back Colin.
They this could be a thirteen win team. Should we
be betting them to get the number one seed?
Speaker 6 (24:21):
Again? They're not going to go to the super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
Do you remember when Mike Vrabel he lost to Cincinnati
at Holme The Burrow team that made the Super Bowl.
Wasn't that Tennessee team with Ryan Tannehill and Mike Rabel.
Weren't they a number one seed?
Speaker 6 (24:33):
Derrick Henry, Yeah, they were the number one seed.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
They were a number one seed more of a running
team than a throwing team. If you can be a
number one seed with Ryan Tannehill, you can be a
number one seed with Drake may It's a good take.
It's not crazy. I said they were the easiest team
on the board. Double your wins, easiest, easiest. I mean
you had three hundred million dollars. Mike Rabel a quarterback.
(24:56):
If you go to last year, New England was poorly
co coach and didn't have enough talent and was in
a lot of one possession losses. They were in close
games all to their schedule. New England's going to win
double digit games. Thirteen is not out of the question
if they stay healthy.
Speaker 5 (25:13):
And I should add listen, the Buffalo team obviously was going.
Speaker 6 (25:16):
To be the best team in the league.
Speaker 5 (25:17):
They already beat Buffalo in Buffalo, So if they have
bird in hand essentially going into that second Buffalo matchup,
if they win that, they're winning the AFC East, right,
and then maybe the number one seeds not out of
the question. Colin, I think there could be a decent
bet if you're interesting member.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
The Jets and the Dolphins are a mess. So if
you beat Buffalo even once, you get four wins on
the other side, So, I mean they play that division
looked tough, but the NFC East and the AFC East
over the last month have deteriorated. Washington, I mean, the
Giants actually have a spark, They're not great. Dallas has
no defense, Philadelphia is struggling. We thought that had a
(25:54):
chance to be you know, Washington and Philadelphia and no
it's a bad division.
Speaker 9 (25:59):
Now.
Speaker 5 (26:00):
Yeah, the final story is Major League Baseball Vlad Junior.
Oh my gosh, what a game four for four? He
just missed the cycle. He did not get a triple.
But the Blue Jays win thirteen to four. Game four,
the Mariners will be leading two to one. Are you
concerned at all for your Seattle team or was this
(26:21):
just a typical letdown?
Speaker 1 (26:23):
No, you got to get a couple more games in Seattle.
I think Seattle's a really good team. As we have
watched all postseason. The reason the Dodgers are dominating is
not bats Otani can't hit. It's because of starting pitching.
And last night Seattle starting pitching was not good enough
and they got their Blue Jays had several big innings. Toronto.
(26:46):
Didn't they lead the American League in hits. You're not
sweeping Toronto. I don't think the Dodgers are gonna sweep Milwaukee.
I don't. I think Milwaukee's too good. I think these
final four teams are too good to be swept. And
this was going to happen was uglier than I thought.
But Toronto's a real team. I mean, just don't forget
how they disposed of the Yankees. They really rolled them
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three times, so it's uh, this was bound to have.
Speaker 6 (27:10):
I'll say this, Colin. Fun fact about me.
Speaker 5 (27:13):
The first baseball stadium I ever went to was SkyDome.
My family has a bunch of friends in Canada. Beautiful,
beautiful stadium. And these throwback jerseys the Blue Jays wore
last night, those are fire. I love them, Aronte of
all the Blue Jays that I used to love back
in the day, Colin, I actually used to like the
Toronto Blue Jays just because of the.
Speaker 6 (27:32):
Uniforms and the play. Jesse Barfield, George Beld. I mean,
it was so many good players back.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
It wasn't one of their first great players. Otto Valez.
Look it up.
Speaker 6 (27:42):
Now you're dating me. Come on, man, I know I
can't do that.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
You know, no shaded auto valves on the show. I
go way, I go to the Expos. At least you
start talking, you know, you start talking these seventies and
eighties expansion teams. You got no shot. J mcklenews, Well,
that's the news, and thanks for stopping by the herd
line news. Yeah, the Jays led baseball in hits and
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on base percentage. This is going to happen. So I
saw a story this morning. I thought the Cowboys would
win four to five games and have a top seven pick.
Dak looks better than ever, and the coaching staff, at
least on the offensive side, is functional. And I'm very
critical of Jerry Jones, but there's two things he got
right recently that you cannot deny. Number One, the George
(28:28):
Pickens trade for a third round pick with sensational He's
been tremendous, especially with the Ceede Lamb injury. And the
other thing that I think matters in the NFL. They're entertaining.
It's a good TV product. Jerry once again hired an
offensive coach. He knows where the league is going. If
you watch the Jets or Cleveland, the Saints or the Titans,
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it's bad television. The Commander's Cowboys this weekend. If I
told you thirty three thirty field goal wins it, you
wouldn't be shocked. Titans are never going to be in
games like that, either of the Jets this point forward.
But the Mica trade, I like, gave the organization flexibility.
The Pickens moves turned out great, and they're the number
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one TV show in the country. I mean go look
at the numbers of NFL football. It's the number one
TV show, ninety six out of the top one hundred shows.
And so the Titans and Jets are bad TV. And
you're saying, what does that have to do with anything?
It has to do with the vibe. There's a difference
between being hopeless and hopeful. What's the difference both teams
(29:31):
are bad Titans and Cowboys. You can argue, what's the
difference in life between hopeless and hopeful? Momentum? What's it
look like? What's it feel like? If I was a
free agent, I look at the Cowboys and I think
they have two first round picks. If they get the
best edge rusher and the top corner Kenny Clark, go
spend some money. Now they have flexibility. You can fix
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that thing in the year. Folks, will got new England's
done in a year with a new coaching staff, you
can fix in a year. Look what look what Harbaugh did?
Worst defense to first defense, same guys one year. So
they're they're the Dallas vibe is entertaining big offense, Ceedee Lamb,
George Pickens, Javonte Williams. They just need a better defense.
(30:16):
It's a very hopeful, optimistic next twelve months. Jets don't
have the quarterback, don't have the coach. I'm not sure
if they have the vibe or the ownership. Are they distracted?
The Cowboys feel promising Pickens flexibility? Two first round picks?
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I mean, I George Pickens. I do wonder what happens
when Ceedee Lamb comes back, maybe this weekend and takes
a lot of those targets. How does he? How does
that land for George Pickens? But Jerry says they would
consider a long term deal with.
Speaker 10 (30:53):
Will Wait that we knew full well that if things
really went like we won't to go that. Certainly we
need to think about having some room available if we're
going to pay a second receiver at that level.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
You never want to be bad and boring. If you're
not very good. Cowboys aren't bad. If you're not very good,
but wildly entertaining agents, pro athletes, coaches, you can sell that.
Try selling the Titans to a free agent. Try selling
the dysfunctional Jets to a free agent. Dak Ceedee Lamb,
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George Pickens, Devonte Williams. Two first round picks in this league,
you could absolutely see next year if they nail their
first two picks, first three picks two first, a second,
all defensive guys two out of three hit big one starts,
you don't think they can change it, so you got
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to give credit. I like the Mica deal, the Pickens deal.
They went with an offensive coach, way better than I thought.
I When I think of the Cowboys right now, I
do not put them close. If you look at right
now the top ten picks in the draft, it's a
lot of sad sack organizations. It's a lot of Cleveland Jets, Saints, Titans,
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Tonight, the ALCS continues with Game four as Vlad Junior
in the Blue Jays look to tie up the series
against cal Raley and the Mariners at eight pm Eastern,
five pm Pacific on FS one.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
By the way, j Mac, you don't want me to
go rain Man. So the Mariners and the Blue Jays
engine teams in like seventy seven. And so I was
a huge Mariner fan. I can give you the entire
roster right now. No, we're good, We're good.
Speaker 6 (34:06):
We're good.
Speaker 5 (34:07):
We're good.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
Huh.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
And I told you Otto the swatow Otto Valez was
the guy that driving in the runs I think he
came from the Yankees, went to Toronto in seventy seven
and he was their RBI guy.
Speaker 5 (34:16):
He sounds like my vape guy out here in California,
Otto the Suato sounds like a very off the books
kind of guy.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
And in nineteen seventy six, I think it was seventy
six to seventy seven, the Seahawks and the Buccaneers were
also expansion teams. The Seahawks had a great offense with
Jim Zorn and Largent and Sherman Smith. The Bucks had
a Selman. They had a great defense. We're terrible on offense.
So if you had taken the Seahawks offense and the
Bucks defense, you had a great team. But Tampa couldn't
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score for about three years. The Seahawks couldn't stop a
noseley for three years. So that was my fandom started.
I mean, like when I was a kid, there were
no teams in the Northwest outside of the Blazers. I
think the Sonics had been there for about an hour.
But my football and baseball stuff I had, I was
a Yankee, Red Sox fil not Red Sox, Phillies, Pirates,
Reds Royals, a little bit of the Yankees. Those are
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my teams. So you don't want to you don't want
to push me on, Blue Jays, Mariners, Bucks, Seahawks.
Speaker 6 (35:11):
I how was the blazon five back then? How was
that cooking with Leroy Selman and the Bucks or whatever?
Speaker 1 (35:20):
My parents weren't gamblers. I will tell you this. So
it's coming up here in a few weeks, the trade deadline.
And there's a story this morning. We've been We've been
saying this now for a week. Keep your eye on
the Chargers running back in offensive tackle. So this is
what I've been saying. And here's how I view the
trade deadline. Buffalo, Bills, Chargers, Rams, go get help. You
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have superstar quarterbacks. If you do not have a great quarterback,
don't That's what bad teams do. I hear all these
Jalen waddle to the Giants, rumors, stupid Giant. Think about
it this way. Think about free agency like it's similar
to poker. What's your hand? The Giants have a pair
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of pocket twos scataboo and Jackson dart and nice twos.
You're not winning the hand. Okay, you got Herbert Allen Stafford. Okay,
that's a pair of Kings. That's a pair of aces.
Take a swing now. Khalil Mack may play this weekend
(36:29):
against the Colts. Joe Alt is coming back in the
next couple of weeks. Hampton's coming back as well. And
if you didn't go to the trade deadline, the Chargers
feel like to me they're a playoff team. With Alt
at left tackle, Hampton back at running back, and Khalil Mack,
they will Those are three elite players. I don't think
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you need a big swing. Keep your eye on Alvin
Kamara as a backup running back from the Saints. Keep
your eye now, Caroline. He's got a young running back,
but he just had a monster weekend against the Cowboys.
Rico Daddle used to be a Cowboy, had a great week.
I don't think Carolina in that week division Carolina thinks
they may be a playoff team. I think you could
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get him in three weeks when they're not a playoff team.
It doesn't look like it because I think Atlanta and
Tampa are just better. But when I look at the
trade deadline, who's your quarterback? Bills, you can't stop the run.
That's how you lose games. In January, Josh Allen doesn't
get on the field. Buffalo make a move doesn't have
to be a gigantic swing, something on the interior of
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the defense, Chargers, a backup swing tackle or a running back.
Hampton's been hurt once. Running backs get hurt a lot,
and then you know you're the Rams. You got to
get a legit corner. You need a big corner. In
my opinion, I don't think they're massive swings. I think
all the teams are good enough to win multiple playoff games,
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but the coaching's better in the playoffs, and your weaknesses
will be exposed. And the Chargers at running back and tackle,
the Rams at corner, and the Bills interior defense, the
good teams will take advantage of it. So this morning
this made me laugh. This morning I went and looked
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at the current draft order in the NFL. I mean, honestly,
it looks like the last ten years. The current draft
order in the NFL. I'm gonna name nine of the
top ten teams. Stop me if you've heard them before. Jets, Brown's, Dolphin, Saints, Titans, Bengals, Raiders, Giants, Cardinals.
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Baltimore is in there, but when Lamar comes back, they'll
reel off wins. And I've said this before. Winning a
Super Bowl is really really hard. Winning in the NFL
is not that hard. Take New England dynasty for twenty
plus years with Belichick and Brady. They have back to
back four and thirteen seasons. Then they hire of Rabel,
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they have Drake May, they spend money in a free agency.
Right now they're in first place. So some of these
teams do really dumb things. I mean, take Miami, they
could have drafted Herbert, a bigger, stronger, more dynamic arm
over Tua. They chose Tua. Then Tua has multiple concussion issues,
(39:24):
they sign him to an extension and don't protect them
with a great o' line. Take Cleveland, they pass on Mahomes,
then they draft cocky Johnny Manziel. I'm a radio TV guy,
I warned you. And then they give up three first
round picks and guarantee the contract with Shaun Watson while
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he's in litigation. So Miami and Cleveland, you've earned it.
You're bad for a reason. Tennessee, you let Mike Rabel go.
Not great, But New England proves for the next day
they're going to be really good. Minimum Vrabel's got ten
years left coach minimum. Drake may is going to play
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ten years minimum if he doesn't get hurt. So it's
it's I will tell you With the New York Jets,
there's four things I would do in this order. Number one,
I would keep Aaron Glenn for the rest of the
season for a lot of reasons. I want to clean
coaching search and I don't think he's going to turn
it around losses or wins. I would keep Aaron Glenn
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at the end of the season. Do not trade away
any of your best players. Remember when Carolina traded Dj Moore,
they get Bryce Young. He's got no number one receiver.
Keep your best players, stay out of the trade deadline stuff.
Hire an offensive coach at the end of the year
after letting Aaron go, and then just draft the best
college quarterback available and let it bake for a few years.
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It may not turn it around overnight. Keep Aaron, stay
out of the trade deadline stuff, stay out of it.
Don't give up Bresee Hall, don't give up Garrett Wilson,
Quinn Williams, keep your best players, keep your co coach,
then move on. Get an offensive guy, and by the way,
go get Mike McCarthy. Don't get a position coach or
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a college coach or a coordinator. Just go spend money.
That's what the Chargers did for years, and then they went,
you know, let's go spend fifteen million a year and
get Jim Harbaugh at Denver. Let's get Nett Hackett. No,
let's get Sean Payton. Go get Mike McCarthy. Is he
Andy Reid. No, but he's got a Super Bowl ring,
he's dealt with no owner and a needy owner. Go
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get Mike McCarthy. End of the year, draft a quarterback.
Don't do anything at the trade deadline. It's not that complicated.
Hard to win Super Bowls, not hard to be competent.
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