October 21, 2025 • 40 mins
Thoughts on how the Tampa Bay Buccaneers lost to the Detroit Lions last night and how HC Dan Campbell has an affect on the Lions
Colin explains the Seattle Mariners crucial mistake in game 7 of the ALCS
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
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Speaker 1 (00:26):
Here we go, it is a Tuesday. We are ready
to roll. Oh, I've been in better moods. Mariners have
a way of doing that. Seattle's sports teams have a
way of doing that. Greg Olsen, Nick Wright both stop
in the Herd hierarchy.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
One hour from now.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Jmac Baker, Mayfield and the Buccaneers had been tempting fate
for weeks and let's just say that it's a dangerous
place to live in the NFL. So Tampa Bay come
from behind wins despite a five and two record, they
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have the same point differential as two and five Arizona.
And last night Tampa from the first series by the
Lions got punched in the mouth Detroit's offensive line and
Jamier Gibbs. They had a different level of energy and
they control the game. And I mean they're deep and
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they're talented and Jamier Gibbs remember when he was picked
in the first round and everybody's like, you can't pick
a running back then, I mean, Tampa's fun, they're feisty,
they've got experience, they're exciting, and Baker Mayfield's a perfect fit.
But that roulette style of football does not work long term.
They had fifty eight total yards in the first half
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and we're lucky to be in the game midway through
the second quarter.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
And here's the thing about Detroit.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Between their talent, Brad Holmes upstairs a great g and
Dan Campbell's ted Lasso positivity. Let's be honest, Dan Campbell
is ted Lasso. If ted Lasso benched about three hundred
and seventy five pounds. And between that talent and Dan Campbell,
they are a monster at home. They should organizationally request
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a Super Bowl there across their fingers they get in.
Baker Mayfield was fighting uphill all night long. And here's
the thing. The secondary for the Lions has been banged up.
It seems like for years they lost both coordinators, and
yet Baker Mayfield was the most uncomfortable he had been
all season long. He looked cooked, zero for nine throwing
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the ball down the field, and that's what Baker has
lived on. And coming from behind is what Baker has
lived on. And they didn't like the calls they got
and Detroit's defensive line dominated Tampa up front. Lions are
now number two in the NFL and point differential unbelievable,
three and zero at home, and once again, Campbell's culture
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building ted lasso with biceps energy on display on Monday
Night Football where they've on five straight standalone games. Here's
Dan Campbell after we got.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
A special group. We got a special group of coaches
and players. I just think we're we're they're competitive, they
want to win. They're able to really focus on what
needs to be fixed. Don't lose confidence, just fix it.
And I think that's where our guys are really special. Man.
We just go to work, we fix it. They've always
been that way. And then the lights come on, man,
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and guys show up.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
Yep, they did.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Dan Campbell, I thought he was, I'll be honest, kind
of a meathead, biting kneecaps in his first press conference
in the history of Colin Wright, Colin wrong. This is
probably the most wrong I've ever been. He is literally
as Baker Mayfield is a perfect fit for Tampa. Dan
Campbell should be the Lions head coach forever. He is
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a home run and I'm telling you you get him
at home on a fast track. Nobody's touching him well.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
Last night was.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
The American League Championship Series. And when I was a
little kid, the Mariners arrived in the mid to late
seventies in Seattle. I was at the very first game,
and I can recite J mack knows. This the entire
roster from Rupert two P. Jones to Craig Reynolds, to
Bruce Balkte, eventually Danny Meyer, Bill Stein, Bobstin, Bob Stinson
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opening picture, Diego Saghee. This was my team, Lee Stanton,
Leon Roberts. This was my team when I was a
little kid, twelve thirteen, fourteen years old, right fall in
love with baseball. I'd fall in love with a big
red machine. And then they got a little old and
here came the Mariners and last night Game seven an
ALCS and it was going so great for the Mariners.
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Julio Rodriguez and Cal Raley, they were at the top
of the order. Julio Rodriguez, how about that a double
and a home run in his first two at bats.
He's been in Seattle for years, three or four years.
An All star, always delivers the big dumper. Cal Rally
was in the MVP race, also homered in the fifth.
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Seattle led three to one. They're great with the lead,
always great with the lead because they have so many
arms and so much flexibility in the bullpen. And when
cal Raley homers. The Mariners are forty one and thirteen
this year. They were leading three to one heading into
the seventh. George Kirby Brian wu had done a solid
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job to keep that Blue Jays batting order in check.
Felt so good, this was going to be a special
night for Seattle Sports.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
Hoist that trident.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
And then at the bottom of the seventh, the Jay's
got a couple of guys on. There's a base open,
and George Springer was stepping out. Now, George Springer, his
entire career has been he hits bombs in the playoffs,
a World Series MVP for Houston. Now he's in Toronto
and he just hits bombs all the time. And Dan Wilson,
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the former Mariner catcher, very good defensive catcher and a
good skipper, right, and he decides and nobody in Seattle
agreed with this because I was watching. And if you're
from the Northwest, you were watching and you were saying,
you don't pitch to George Springer.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
Don't do that. Put him on, take your chances.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
And Dan Wilson decided to pitch to Major League Baseball
veteran George Springer. And here's what happened next. Two pitch
Hi l Field Hoaza, what does it go?
Speaker 3 (07:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (07:21):
That was super awesome. Congrats to the Blue Jays. Super cool.
Another Seattle sports moment on the doorstep of history, and
it's locked. Why pitch to George Springer? Why are you
waiting to put in Moonho's your elite closer? What in
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the name of whiffs are we talking about? This had
a refuse to give the ball the Marshawn Lynch at
the doorstep super Bowl field to it?
Speaker 3 (07:56):
Did it not?
Speaker 1 (07:57):
This had a let's throw from the two feel to
it afterwards, here's Mariner skipper, Dan Wilson.
Speaker 5 (08:09):
You make your decisions and and you know, sometimes you know,
you have to live and die with it. And uh,
you know, I think again the wayz Arto has throw
the ball all season long. We were comfortable with where
we were and you know, uh.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
It just again didn't didn't go our way.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
Listen, I'm super happy for Toronto, super happy. But if
you're from the Pacific Northwest, this had an extra sting
to it. If you're from Portland, it felt a little
bit like that Laker Blazer series Game seven Kobe Shack
the alley oop. Even though the Blazers had controlled long
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stretches in the series. It felt like that interception by
Russell Wilson at the two yard line at the end zone. Eventually,
Butler with a play wide pitch to George Springer. But hey,
there's always next year. The Trident thing was fun. Dodgers
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Blue Jays World Series. The Dodgers will be seeking a dynasty.
The Big Red Machine in the mid seventies won two championships.
I had not a third. That didn't win until like
nineteen ninety it was considered a dynasty. Baseball has that
kind of unique feel to it. Hard to win three
straight with arm injuries and pitching staffs and ligaments and elbows.
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So the Dodgers are seeking a dynasty and the Blue
Jays are seeking relevance. Respect what has, so here we
are jmc nick wright one hour heard Hierarchy one hour
it was. I sat there and watched it, and I thought,
when you grow up in the Pacific Northwest. No, the
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Howski's won a national championship. Seahawks did win a Super Bowl,
blowing out Dead Bring that Super Bowl, Peyton Manning. Remember
that the Seattle super Sonics won it. The Blazers won
it back in the seventies.
Speaker 6 (10:06):
Seventies.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
Okay, the Bill Walton teams and the Gus Williams DJ
Jacksigma teams.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
There have been times. There have been moments few and
far between.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
But listen, I did think whoever was going to go
against the Dodgers. I thought the Mariners pitching could make
it an interesting series against the Dodgers, although La is
going to be a massive favorite. So if somebody's got
to be in. Congrats to our friends, our neighbors, our
friendly neighbors to the north of Canada.
Speaker 6 (10:34):
Well, you and I like Canada.
Speaker 7 (10:36):
I don't know if Canada feels the same way about.
Speaker 6 (10:37):
America right now.
Speaker 7 (10:39):
But that being said, Colin, I was going to text
you last night when Springer went yard, but I decided
it probably would have been too much, you know, like
thoughts and prayers, one of those deals. Yeah, yeah, that's
a tough one for you, man. Listen, I wouldn't know
that how it feels as a Jets fan. We haven't
been close to anything, you know, since in like fifteen years.
Speaker 6 (10:56):
But that's a tough one. But I'll go Dodgers in five.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Yeah, I mean the Dodgers have extinguished the Reds quickly.
The Phillies surprisingly quickly swept the Brewers, which did anybody
predict that? So they'll be the favorite. Say this for
the Blue Jays. You get to the top of that order. Man,
they just remember this. Look how they extinguished so quickly
the Yankees. So it's like not a surprise. They were
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a good team all year. Yeah, I'm really happy for him.
Speaker 7 (11:26):
You couldn't be more elated, you sir, sound like it, Colin.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
Yeah, a lot of stuff going on today. We got
a lot of stuff. We got Nick Wright in one
hour of The Herd Hierarchy.
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Speaker 1 (12:19):
You know, the first few weeks of football are beautiful
out September early October. The field is green, the air
is crisp and clean, smells like late summer and early fall.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
And then one morning you.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
Walk out on the driveway, you trip and fall on
the ice. You dent your yetti coffee mug. That morning
happened to the Seahawks last night. It's officially late October.
That was ugly. No longer September fifteenth, warm air, Chris feeling.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
That was awful.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Sam Darnold was inconsistent, total giveaways, twelve penalties. They called
a dumb trick play Cooper Cup throwing the ball the
good news their defensive line. Seattle defensive line for three
and a half hours, man to man dominated Houston.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
I feel bad for CJ. Stroud. CJ.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Stroud sits in the pocket, throws a beautiful ball. He's
under total duress. They can't get the offensive line right,
and Seattle's defensive front dominated. But Seattle was up fifteen
points at home in the fourth quarter, and what falled
was a punt, a fumble, an interception, and a punt.
So the you know what Seattle's trying to do. They
lead the NFL in rush attempts. They want to be
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a rush and a play action pass team, but they
also lead the NFL in giveaways. Last night they had
four and they are just two mistake prone at this
point to be an excellent team. They're a good team,
but they should have won last night thirty three to six.
A Donald fumble, a Donald pick late in the fourth quarter.
The only thing, if you look at it this year,
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they should be seven and oh, but Donald had the
fumble against the Niners, and then Donald had a late
pick in the game.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
Otherwise they're seven.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
And oh and I love Sam, but reckless is what
not only Donald's history is, it's what Seattle feels like now.
So I mean, Denver has back to back ugly wins,
it's a skill.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
I will give Seattle credit.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
They played very poorly, especially in the second half, and won.
And I don't think Houston's bad, I really do. I
think Houston's got good players. They're just so bad on
the offensive line that they can't create they can't keep
the defense off the field, they can't create long, consistent,
sustained drives because they.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
Get manhandled up front.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
And here was Sam Donald often atrocious looking win.
Speaker 7 (14:50):
You know.
Speaker 9 (14:51):
Obviously, I think the first half, you know, was really
solid for us as an offense, you know, and then
the second half it was just a different story, you know.
And I think, you know, we just got to hold
onto the football, you know, having a game like that
offensively and you still win the ballgame.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
Can't ask for more than that.
Speaker 9 (15:09):
And you know, we're just going to continue to learn
from from our mistakes and get better.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
Hey, last year, Kansas City was eleven to zero one
score games, and eight or nine of them they looked
like the losing team.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
Denver.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
This year Jets Giants out played in stretches by both
I mean that, I mean at least the Giants outplayed
him for three quarters. So there is a skill to
playing poorly and winning, and Seattle illustrated that last night.
That was a great example. It saved what would have
otherwise been a disastrous night in the Pacific Northwest. I'll
tell you JSN Ohio state wide receivers, and they got
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another couple in college right now. I mean, have you
watched Ohio State beat Wisconsin this weekend? They got nothing
but star five star receivers. JSN is a stud coming
into the season. We don't we don't know if he's
a nonumber one receiver right like he is, and he's
one of the better ones. So he and Darnald look
like they've been playing together for fifteen years. So I'll
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give Seattle credit. Donald had some experience in Minnesota. This
is the second youngest offense, and like Green Bay, which
has the youngest offense, it can be a little, you know,
a little uneven. Seattle can be really uneven. But they're
a Donald fumble and a Donald pick away from being
seven to zero. So you got to iron those wrinkles out.
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But a win's a win.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
J Mack with a.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
News no, no, turn on the news. This is the
Herdline News.
Speaker 7 (16:38):
All right, Colin, we're on to week eight and we're
gonna go to Green Bay and Pittsburgh. The most anticipated
matchup of the weekend Aaron Rodgers and the Steelers. First
time Rodgers will face his former team, the Packers. Everyone
will be talking about the matchup, but Matt Lafleur isn't
stressing the significance of his.
Speaker 10 (16:57):
Return in the Pittsburgh Steelers, who happen to have Aaron Rodgers.
I mean, it's as simple as that. That is for
you guys to talk about. Granted, I mean we've got
a lot of respect and love for Aaron. I mean
what he's done here. This game is not about that.
It's about going to Pittsburgh Sunday night football. Our guys
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will be jacked up. Their guys will be jacked up.
It's about the Green Bay Packers versus the Pittsburgh Steelers.
And that's for you guys to talk about.
Speaker 7 (17:26):
You know.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
I actually, I actually think Pittsburgh. This is a good
spot for Pittsburgh really.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
I mean, first of all, they go on Thursday night football.
They're a little humiliated. Tomlin has struggled on Thursday night football,
so they go play the Bengals. The defense gets humiliated
by Joe Flacco, so they're going to be in a
bad mood. They're at home where they're a better team.
Mike Tomlin has always been a great underdog coach there.
And the Packers are playing with their food a little bit.
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You know, they've been in close games. Packers are the
better team, but they you know, I think everybody feels
the same way about the Packers, including their fans. You
feel like they leave you wanting more, like they're good.
Shouldn't they be really, really really good. I mean, they
open up crushing Detroit and I thought, that's that's the
best team in the league, and they haven't been able
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to really give you that feeling since. I think Pittsburgh
and Aaron keep it really close. I always love when
teams that are very prideful like lose to a bad
team the following week, watch out like I love Detroit
last night, but they lost to Kansas City. I think
Tampa being humiliated. Next week watched Tampa play one of
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their most focused games of the year. So when a
team gets humiliated or they lose to a team they
should beat, like the Steelers losing to the Bengals on
Thursday night, watch Pittsburgh be inspired and give green Bay
everything they can handle.
Speaker 6 (18:51):
Interesting, So at three and a half, you lean.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
Highlight Pittsburgh is one of my second or third favorite
bets of the week.
Speaker 6 (18:57):
So here's the thing about the Packers. You touched on it.
Speaker 7 (18:59):
So that day they beat the Lions in the opener, impressive.
Then they beat Washington on Thursday, and everybody me, you,
everyone who watches football, crowned them as the best team
in the NFC. Right, you beat the two NFC powers
from last year. Since then, they have not covered the
spread in any games column.
Speaker 6 (19:14):
They lost to Cleveland, tig.
Speaker 7 (19:16):
Dallas, messed around with the Bengals, didn't cover, and then
last week didn't. So is it that they were kind
of feeling themselves after those first two wins and they
haven't locked in though.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
I Mean, I think Green Bay and Seattle are the
two youngest offenses, and now I think Seattle is much
more turnover prone than Green Bay is. But the similarity
between Green Bay and Seattle's offenses really explosive, really good teams,
but they make a lot of mistakes. Seattle makes a
ton of mistakes, and I think Green Bay is just
one of those teams where they leave you wanting more. Now,
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Green Bay's had some injuries, but they're both really good teams.
I would take Green Bay over Seattle right now. I
had Seattle in the hurd hierarchy and I took them
out this morning after that ugly performance last night.
Speaker 6 (20:00):
Really wow, harsh, I don't have anything on this.
Speaker 7 (20:03):
I kind of want to go counterintuitive and go Packers
at three and a half, but that could be foolish. Well,
we'll talk about it all week for sure. Let's move
on to the Dallas Cowboys Colin. They are starting to
get spicy. Big blowout over Washington. Offense is looking like
one of the most dangerous units in the league. Dallas
ranks among the top teams in points and yards per game,
and Dak says things can only get better.
Speaker 11 (20:27):
Confidence is earned. You don't just wake up and say, yeah,
I know I can do this. No, no, no, you
got to go do that, prove it to yourself, and then,
you know what I'm saying, you feel good about talking about.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
It and walking the walk.
Speaker 11 (20:35):
So this this group practices the right way and they've
earned the confidence and they go out there and we
play with it and it's fun. It really is fun.
Who knows what we can accomplish like this guy is
the lemon. We're just going to stay focused each and
every day at getting better.
Speaker 4 (20:52):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (20:53):
This is a really good game.
Speaker 7 (20:55):
This Dallas offense, which is elite increased this season against
the Denver defense, which we been hearing is elite. Yeah,
but the results don't match the hype. I mean, Jackson
Dart went up and down the field against him. I
look at earlier this season, Daniel Jones cooked them. I mean,
other than you know, walloping, Jake Browning and Justin Fields Colin.
Speaker 6 (21:15):
Is this Denver defense that good? Or is it in
name only?
Speaker 3 (21:18):
It's my favorite game of the weekend.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
Affordable defense, the best offense, two quarterbacks who are newsworthy.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
It's my favorite game of the weekend.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
I don't have a side yet, but in terms of
wanting to watch it, I think it's really really entertaining.
Speaker 6 (21:32):
Who do you get the.
Speaker 7 (21:33):
Edge to the Dallas offense which has Pickens and Lamback well,
by the way, Lamb.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
When I saw initially the line was three, my take was,
I you know, I always guess the line in my
head before I see it, and I thought it would
be Denver minus four. So when it was Denver minus three,
My take was Broncos are the side, the slight side.
So it's moved up to three and a half at
least I saw it three initially. So yeah, I feel Denver.
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You know, when a team is a four point favorite,
I almost always take the favorite. Vegas doesn't want to
make anybody a four point favorite. They want it to
be three and when they have to give up that
extra point. So I think if this moves up to four,
then Denver's really my side.
Speaker 7 (22:12):
So Dallas on the road this season, ready lost at
the Eagles, lost at the Bears, beat the Jets, which
kind of doesn't even count, lost at the Panthers, So
you go away from the fast track indoors at Jerry
World Outdoors.
Speaker 6 (22:26):
And they have not been as good.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
So I think I know.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
All I know is if Dallas wins this thing, they
get Arizona at home buy in the Raiders. So I mean,
you come out of this weekend four three and one
Cardinals by Raiders, you are in a really interesting situation.
Speaker 7 (22:45):
Well, Dallas in Chicago, no Joe could be fighting for
that a wild cards podcat and Chicago actually has the
tie breaker. All right, final story, let's go to this.
I'm stunned by this news. Lamar Jackson is still not
practicing what I was ready to are the Ravens in
this spot against the Bears. The market has set Baltimore
as a six and a half point favorite. Yep. I'm
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absolutely floored that Lamar, who hasn't played in two.
Speaker 6 (23:08):
Games and had a bye week, did.
Speaker 7 (23:11):
Not practice yesterday and we don't know if he's practicing today.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
That line tells you the respect for John Harbaugh off
of bye.
Speaker 7 (23:18):
Yeah, he's fourteen and three off of bye. I just
looked that up. But Baltimore reminder one in five now
Roquan Smith expected back.
Speaker 6 (23:25):
I don't care. I need to know if Lamar's playing
or not. I mean, yeah, okay.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
I think what the odds makers are telling you is
that Baltimore has to go on about a five game
winning streak and John Harbaugh off of bye. This team
is going to play with its hair on fire. This
is not a good spot for the Bears, who have
been winning ugly for four weeks. And it feels like
to me this is this is a bad spot for
the Bears and the Ravens. They have no breathing room.
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They have to win five straight games. Yeah, they have
to look up and have a five game winning streak
or they're like out of the running because Pittsburgh is
going to end up. You know, Tomlin's gonna end up
with a winning record because he always does.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
So you got to get to a positive record to
get into the playoffs.
Speaker 7 (24:07):
How's this scenario, Ravens win and uh, the Steelers lose
to the Green Bay Packers and oh, by the way,
Baltimore still has two against the Steelers left. I don't
think it's over one of the smart bets. Would you
do this, Colin? Bet the Ravens to win the division?
Speaker 3 (24:23):
I think it's good. I think it's an interesting bet.
Speaker 7 (24:25):
Yeah, this weekend is a big swing. Now, if Lamar
is not playing, I'm not touching it. But I do
believe Lamar. He's got to play a hamstring.
Speaker 6 (24:33):
For three weeks. I thought this guy was a young,
extraordinary athlete. He can't get them kick him back for.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
A freaking hamstring. Come on, j Maack with the news.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by the
herd Line News.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
So the NBA season starts tonight. I will give you
my five bold predictions after the commercial. But I want
to touch on this. So NBA writer Yarren Weizman has
a new book it's called The Hollywood Ending, The Dreams
and Drama of the Lebron Lakers, And in the book,
Westbrook is very critical of Lebron James. He shouldered a
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lot of the blame when he joined the Lakers and
they struggled. Basically, he calls out Lebron James for being
a phony. And so Russell Westbrook is runs hot. He's
very intense, he's highly emotional. He always feels, how can
I put this kind of slided? But he's no phony.
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Westbrook is as real as it gets. I think, in fact,
I would argue Westbrook in his career has been real
to a fault. He would have benefited greatly sometimes being
a little bit more of a politician and a little
bit less emotional and outburst capable, even with fans. Someone
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pretty close to Lebron's circle told me one time, Westbrook
hates everybody.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
I don't know if that's.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
True, but Lebron is a very rare athlete globally, he's
a billionaire. He's in that Michael Tiger rinaldo O Tawny space.
And I think a fair criticism of Lebron and maybe
if I was Lebron, I'd be in this space too,
is that he's hyper aware of his brand and is
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largely at this point protecting it for he and his family.
So sometimes he comes across a little bit insincere, a
little more aware of every tweet, that he's seeking popularity
and brand protection, and that it's kind of phony and
it's kind of insincere. I've heard that criticism one hundred
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times about Lebron, But again, if you go back and
look at this whole relationship, it should have never been fostered.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
It should have never happened.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
Russell Westbrook is literally the opposite personality of Lebron James.
It was never gonna work. He's a trapeze artist. You're
not quite sure with Westbrook what's coming next. And Lebron
is more consultant from a distance, not gonna put his
toe in the water unless he knows it's safe. And
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these two were never gonna work. One is pretty easy
to play with in terms of mobimost there.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
Every start that's played with Lebron has been good.
Speaker 4 (27:26):
Right.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
It felt like he kind of salvaged Jr. Smith's career. Jr.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
Smith in New York was kind of out of sorts,
and he goes to Cleveland. He plays with Lebron, and
all of a sudden, everybody loves Jr. Smith And he
got to a final with Matthew della Vedova and everybody
was out on Kyrie and then he fixed the Kyrie
thing in Cleveland, and eventually they didn't work. But I mean,
Lebron's made everything kind of work. Plays with a Deep
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played with Wade, played with Bosh, played with Kyrie, played
with Kevin Love. He kind of plays with everybody. Westbrook
struggles to play with anybody. But to Westbrook's credit, he's sincere,
he's honest, He's loyal as the day is long to
the people that are close to him, and I know
people that love Westbrook. He just runs hot and Lebron
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doesn't allow. I mean, I've always said it's very interesting
Lebron's never gotten into a fight in the NBA. One
of the biggest, strongest guys, he never got into a fight.
I mean, I mean Michael Jordan punched teammates. I mean,
just different personalities. So I just I think Lebron's a
very measured, calculated brand, protecting global Superstar and Westbrook. What
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you see is what you get, and this puppy was
never gonna work. Ever, some dudes are never meant to
be roommates, right, I mean, you could have buddies in college,
you're like somebody's a partier, you're a serious student.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
You can be friends. You're not meant to live together.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
And Westbrook and Lebron, had the Lakers really really thought
about it, should have never happened. Deal should have never happened.
So it's hard for me to blame Westbrook or Lebron.
I'll have my five bold NBA predictions Colin Herd Hierarchy,
Top of the Hour, plus Nick Right, Greg Olsen two.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
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Speaker 7 (29:16):
All eyes turn to Big Noon for a make or
break clash. Undefeated Indiana number two for the first time
in program history, takes on Ucla, who looks to shock.
Speaker 6 (29:29):
The Big ten.
Speaker 7 (29:30):
It all starts with Big Noon kickoff at ten am Eastern,
live from Bloomington. Then it's Ucla Indiana Holy on Fox.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
Yeah, Ucla as shocking, shocking what they've done. So The
NBA season starts tonight the West has completely separated from
the East. The West, the top four to five teams
in the West arguably are better than the best team
in the East. Now, Jason Tatum comes back and plays
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this year, most doubted, I wouldn't be shocked in game
sixty five or something. I mean, all these pro athletes
in their prime physically get healthier faster than we predict.
If Jason Tatum came back, then I think Boston's a
top four team in the league. Maybe top three Nicks aren't.
But I thought, let's just put it out there. These
are my five bold NBA predictions. I hit in a
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couple last year, missed in a couple.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
Number one.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
OKC, despite the fact they're an overwhelming favorite in the Desert,
will not win. They will not repeat as champions. The
West is too deep. Sga played ninety nine games last year,
second year in a row.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
He doesn't miss games.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
Jalen Williams coming off an injury between Minnesota and Denver,
Between the Lakers and Dallas, I think the West is
too deep. I don't buy of the twenty six previous
teams to win sixty four plus games in a season,
twenty five won fewer games the following season, so I
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don't think they'll get home court advantage, which I think
in the West matters because these teams you're on the
margins here, they're all very good. So number one okay
seed does not repeat. Number two. Luca wins his first
career MVP, So it's going to be a great story,
and part of winning MVP is the narrative. Skinny Luca
committed Luca. Lakers all in on Luca Lebron starting the
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season in recovery. His ball usage will go back to
being number one in the league. Obviously, Austin Reeves is
never going to take the ball out of his hands
in big spaces. I think he's going to lead the
NBA in scoring. You know, he was a dunker, played
downhill early, got a little husky, only had one dunk
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last year. I think the best Luca returns. He's motivated,
the Lakers are all in. I think JJ Reddick is
an above average offensive coach. He'll get the ball to
him in the right spots. Luca becomes MVP. My surprise
team out West number three, Cooper Flag plays point guard
and Dallas makes the Western Conference final. Best front court
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by a mile in the NBA, Derek Lively, Daniel Gafford,
A D Washington. They got great size. Kyrie Irving probably
probably comes back later in the year in his magic,
But I think Cooper Flag is gonna walk in when
Rookie of the Year going away. I just I think
this is one of those deals they fell apart last year.
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I love their size. I don't think anybody defensively quite
can stack the size and length that Dallas can. I
don't know if they face the t Wolves in the
Western Conference finals, that would be my guess or Denver,
but it's not. It's not gonna be the Golden State
Warriors because my number four bold prediction the Warriors missed
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the playoffs. It is the second oldest team in the end.
Let's be honest, they had one playoff series went over
the last two years. They've been hobbled. They don't want
to give up Pods in a trade deal. They're willing
to give up Kaminga, But what are you going to
get for Kaminga? So my take is unless you go
all in on multiple draft picks, Pods and Kaminga, you're
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not getting a star that can accompany Steph Curry and
Pods is what he is to this point in his career.
He's got a little Klay Thompson. But I mean, this
is an old team that brought in Al Horford. I
love Al Horford. That's not the answer. They just got
older and number five Orlando Magic. NBA Finals won't be.
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The Knicks won't be, the Bucks won't be, the Sixers
will not be. The Cavs don't trust him. Last season
they had key injuries to Franz Wagner, Paulo Boncaro, Jalen Suggs.
They were a great number one scoring defense in the league.
They could not shoot threes. They bring in Desmond Vane
from Memphis, which I thought was a super smart move.
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This is a you got a bunch of dudes entering
their prime. The East is weak and I like Orlando
a lot. Now again, they've been back to back first
round exits, but they bring in a veteran who can
hit threes. I think the East, I'm not sure the
East has been without Halliburton in Indiana and without Jason Tatum.
Speaker 3 (34:25):
It is wide open. You can say what about the Knicks.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
Karl Anthony Towns and Jalen Brunson are not good on
the floor. Together both suboptimal defensive players. They went from
TIBs to Mike Brown. Many think they won't be as
good coaching. I think the Knicks last year were a
wonderful story, but what have they done to elevate themselves?
Speaker 3 (34:46):
And again, if you have Carl Anthony Towns.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
Your second best offensive player on the floor, with Jalen
Brunson your lead offensive player, we know how that turns out.
You'll get eaten. The live teams will attack the pick
and roll. The best thing for the Knicks is Jason
Ta him and Halliburton won't play. If they did, I
would think less of the next I'm on Orlando in
a very very weak Eastern Conference.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
J Mac, I know you've got a thought.
Speaker 6 (35:13):
You got some hot, hot takes. I love this. I
know we're happy the NBA is back.
Speaker 7 (35:18):
Listen, you forgot the Nicks are going to be trading
for Giannis here by the trade deadline, so then Nick
will be fine in the East. I am curious this
OKC stuff. Are you surprised that there is no use
for okac all anybody's talking about in the eve of
the NBA season?
Speaker 1 (35:34):
Oh?
Speaker 7 (35:34):
Can you hear what Lebron said in that in that
meeting like four years ago in a book, like, nobody's
talking about SGA and Okac.
Speaker 3 (35:42):
Nobody with you.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
The new Adam Silver NBA is you can't stack too
many good players. Chet Holmgren so far has been a
bit injury prone. Jalen Williams is recovering from an injury.
SGA is like a pitcher that's pitched three hundred innings
in back to back years. And they brought everybody back
a few years ago Tampa on the Super Bowl, remember that,
And they brought everybody back. Yeah, and then the following
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year there was this there was this idea, this sense
that you shouldn't bring everybody back. You need a new
energy every year. You need a new energy. You need
to tweak and tweak and tweak. And I kind of
feel like the Knicks, they'll be the same team, same issues,
and people like Tims more than Mike Brown. I like Mike,
he's fine, and I kind of feel like with OKAC,
you'll be good, but they're not gonna have home court advantage.
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I think Minnesota will be better and keeps getting better.
I think the Lakers are probably gonna be better. I
mean JJ Reddick second year, Yes, I think Denver had
a ton of injuries last year. They'll be better. I
think Dallas can't be as beat up as last year.
Plus Kloper fact, So Dallas better, Minnesota better, Lakers better.
I think the West is just. I mean, I don't
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think Golden State is going to make the playoffs. But
Golden State they're old. But Buddy healed and Steph and
Draymont and Horford and Pods and Kaminga, and I don't
think they'll make the playoff. They could be three seed
in the East, and that's possible.
Speaker 7 (37:02):
You didn't mention once the team that I have winning
the NBA title, and that's the Houston Rockets, Kevin Durant,
Amen Thompson, Shingoon.
Speaker 6 (37:11):
This team is stacked.
Speaker 7 (37:13):
Did you see tonight? They're gonna be starting their starting
lineup as six, seven and up. Kevin Durant is gonna
play shooting guard. This is a new NBA. There's a
bunch of teams are going big now. The whole guard
era is kind of in the past. I think is
he a good takes Colin I like it.
Speaker 6 (37:29):
I'm fired up.
Speaker 3 (37:30):
Yeah, I mean, I think Houston's gonna be fine.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
I don't know who's gonna win the West. I just
have Dallas in the Western Conference finals. Because usually this
is the way it works in sports, the media, myself included,
We pay attention to one thing and then something else happens,
and everybody's focused on Houston and Dallas is like, now,
we like our coach, we like our front line. We
can go big if Houston wants to go big. Kad
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has a recent history of getting banged up.
Speaker 3 (37:57):
I don't know. I look at Dallas and nobody's attention.
Speaker 1 (38:01):
First of all, you could argue the top six teams
in the league are all West.
Speaker 3 (38:05):
Yes, I mean it is.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
It is like the SEC five years ago, before like Oregon, Washington, USC,
UCLA joined the Pac twelve or joined the Big ten,
it was like there was the SEC and whoever was
second wasn't close.
Speaker 3 (38:19):
Now it's very even.
Speaker 7 (38:20):
But I like your Orlando call. That's that's kind of bold.
I like that a lot.
Speaker 3 (38:24):
Right now, the team that added a shooter, we don't
really talk.
Speaker 6 (38:27):
About them anymore.
Speaker 7 (38:28):
I know you're out on this guy, Joel Embiid sixers
when they're healthy, and assuming they will be, they could
be dangerous only because there's no Boston or no Indiana
this year as factors giving the injuries, keep an eye
on the Sixers.
Speaker 6 (38:40):
They've got some young guys. Colin your guy.
Speaker 7 (38:42):
Tyrese Maxy, he was basically your your Jayden Daniels. Remember
you loved him, and I was like, Dad, plump the Brakes.
Terre's Maxie's a bowler, and they got some young guys.
I like the Sixers a little bit this year.
Speaker 1 (38:54):
You know, it's funny watching the Mariners last night and
if you watch Aaron Boone, Dave Roberts, Dan Wilson get
clobbered by the baseball the Seamheads.
Speaker 3 (39:06):
And the truth is now.
Speaker 1 (39:08):
Major league managers have been muted, even Aaron Boone and
I don't know what his salary is, but Dave Roberts,
we pay college football coaches double what we pay major
league managers in major markets like Dodger, Astro, Atlanta, New
York markets. And so as I watch these managers, people
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always complain about the managers. And it's always the same thing,
which is your two player friendly? You know you need
to pull the picture. It's always like when are you
pulling the picture? You have to be pro player as
a major league manager these days, you don't have the power.
You don't have the salary power. The owners are billionaires.
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Now it's a rounding air to fire manager. You don't
have the salary power. The analytic crew upstairs gives you
the batting lineup and all the players know it. So
Dan Wilson last night, I think it's a legitimate criticize criticism.
Pitching to George Springer. I think that's the rare time
I would say that's a mistake. George Springer lives for
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those moments. He's the last guy in the world you
wanted to face. But it is interesting all these managers.
We don't blame the players in baseball. We don't even
blame the pitchers. We blame the managers. Dan Wilson's taken
all the heat in Seattle today, a beloved former Mayrin.
It's not the guy who gives up the bomb, it's
the manager. And that's just what baseball is going forward.
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Speaker 1 (00:26):
Here we go, it is a Tuesday. We are ready
to roll. Oh, I've been in better moods. Mariners have
a way of doing that. Seattle's sports teams have a
way of doing that. Greg Olsen, Nick Wright both stop
in the Herd hierarchy.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
One hour from now.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Jmac Baker, Mayfield and the Buccaneers had been tempting fate
for weeks and let's just say that it's a dangerous
place to live in the NFL. So Tampa Bay come
from behind wins despite a five and two record, they
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have the same point differential as two and five Arizona.
And last night Tampa from the first series by the
Lions got punched in the mouth Detroit's offensive line and
Jamier Gibbs. They had a different level of energy and
they control the game. And I mean they're deep and
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they're talented and Jamier Gibbs remember when he was picked
in the first round and everybody's like, you can't pick
a running back then, I mean, Tampa's fun, they're feisty,
they've got experience, they're exciting, and Baker Mayfield's a perfect fit.
But that roulette style of football does not work long term.
They had fifty eight total yards in the first half
(01:51):
and we're lucky to be in the game midway through
the second quarter.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
And here's the thing about Detroit.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Between their talent, Brad Holmes upstairs a great g and
Dan Campbell's ted Lasso positivity. Let's be honest, Dan Campbell
is ted Lasso. If ted Lasso benched about three hundred
and seventy five pounds. And between that talent and Dan Campbell,
they are a monster at home. They should organizationally request
(02:18):
a Super Bowl there across their fingers they get in.
Baker Mayfield was fighting uphill all night long. And here's
the thing. The secondary for the Lions has been banged up.
It seems like for years they lost both coordinators, and
yet Baker Mayfield was the most uncomfortable he had been
all season long. He looked cooked, zero for nine throwing
(02:40):
the ball down the field, and that's what Baker has
lived on. And coming from behind is what Baker has
lived on. And they didn't like the calls they got
and Detroit's defensive line dominated Tampa up front. Lions are
now number two in the NFL and point differential unbelievable,
three and zero at home, and once again, Campbell's culture
(03:02):
building ted lasso with biceps energy on display on Monday
Night Football where they've on five straight standalone games. Here's
Dan Campbell after we got.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
A special group. We got a special group of coaches
and players. I just think we're we're they're competitive, they
want to win. They're able to really focus on what
needs to be fixed. Don't lose confidence, just fix it.
And I think that's where our guys are really special. Man.
We just go to work, we fix it. They've always
been that way. And then the lights come on, man,
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and guys show up.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
Yep, they did.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Dan Campbell, I thought he was, I'll be honest, kind
of a meathead, biting kneecaps in his first press conference
in the history of Colin Wright, Colin wrong. This is
probably the most wrong I've ever been. He is literally
as Baker Mayfield is a perfect fit for Tampa. Dan
Campbell should be the Lions head coach forever. He is
(04:08):
a home run and I'm telling you you get him
at home on a fast track. Nobody's touching him well.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
Last night was.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
The American League Championship Series. And when I was a
little kid, the Mariners arrived in the mid to late
seventies in Seattle. I was at the very first game,
and I can recite J mack knows. This the entire
roster from Rupert two P. Jones to Craig Reynolds, to
Bruce Balkte, eventually Danny Meyer, Bill Stein, Bobstin, Bob Stinson
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opening picture, Diego Saghee. This was my team, Lee Stanton,
Leon Roberts. This was my team when I was a
little kid, twelve thirteen, fourteen years old, right fall in
love with baseball. I'd fall in love with a big
red machine. And then they got a little old and
here came the Mariners and last night Game seven an
ALCS and it was going so great for the Mariners.
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Julio Rodriguez and Cal Raley, they were at the top
of the order. Julio Rodriguez, how about that a double
and a home run in his first two at bats.
He's been in Seattle for years, three or four years.
An All star, always delivers the big dumper. Cal Rally
was in the MVP race, also homered in the fifth.
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Seattle led three to one. They're great with the lead,
always great with the lead because they have so many
arms and so much flexibility in the bullpen. And when
cal Raley homers. The Mariners are forty one and thirteen
this year. They were leading three to one heading into
the seventh. George Kirby Brian wu had done a solid
(05:46):
job to keep that Blue Jays batting order in check.
Felt so good, this was going to be a special
night for Seattle Sports.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
Hoist that trident.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
And then at the bottom of the seventh, the Jay's
got a couple of guys on. There's a base open,
and George Springer was stepping out. Now, George Springer, his
entire career has been he hits bombs in the playoffs,
a World Series MVP for Houston. Now he's in Toronto
and he just hits bombs all the time. And Dan Wilson,
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the former Mariner catcher, very good defensive catcher and a
good skipper, right, and he decides and nobody in Seattle
agreed with this because I was watching. And if you're
from the Northwest, you were watching and you were saying,
you don't pitch to George Springer.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
Don't do that. Put him on, take your chances.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
And Dan Wilson decided to pitch to Major League Baseball
veteran George Springer. And here's what happened next. Two pitch
Hi l Field Hoaza, what does it go?
Speaker 3 (07:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (07:21):
That was super awesome. Congrats to the Blue Jays. Super cool.
Another Seattle sports moment on the doorstep of history, and
it's locked. Why pitch to George Springer? Why are you
waiting to put in Moonho's your elite closer? What in
(07:44):
the name of whiffs are we talking about? This had
a refuse to give the ball the Marshawn Lynch at
the doorstep super Bowl field to it?
Speaker 3 (07:56):
Did it not?
Speaker 1 (07:57):
This had a let's throw from the two feel to
it afterwards, here's Mariner skipper, Dan Wilson.
Speaker 5 (08:09):
You make your decisions and and you know, sometimes you know,
you have to live and die with it. And uh,
you know, I think again the wayz Arto has throw
the ball all season long. We were comfortable with where
we were and you know, uh.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
It just again didn't didn't go our way.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
Listen, I'm super happy for Toronto, super happy. But if
you're from the Pacific Northwest, this had an extra sting
to it. If you're from Portland, it felt a little
bit like that Laker Blazer series Game seven Kobe Shack
the alley oop. Even though the Blazers had controlled long
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stretches in the series. It felt like that interception by
Russell Wilson at the two yard line at the end zone. Eventually,
Butler with a play wide pitch to George Springer. But hey,
there's always next year. The Trident thing was fun. Dodgers
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Blue Jays World Series. The Dodgers will be seeking a dynasty.
The Big Red Machine in the mid seventies won two championships.
I had not a third. That didn't win until like
nineteen ninety it was considered a dynasty. Baseball has that
kind of unique feel to it. Hard to win three
straight with arm injuries and pitching staffs and ligaments and elbows.
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So the Dodgers are seeking a dynasty and the Blue
Jays are seeking relevance. Respect what has, so here we
are jmc nick wright one hour heard Hierarchy one hour
it was. I sat there and watched it, and I thought,
when you grow up in the Pacific Northwest. No, the
(09:55):
Howski's won a national championship. Seahawks did win a Super Bowl,
blowing out Dead Bring that Super Bowl, Peyton Manning. Remember
that the Seattle super Sonics won it. The Blazers won
it back in the seventies.
Speaker 6 (10:06):
Seventies.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
Okay, the Bill Walton teams and the Gus Williams DJ
Jacksigma teams.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
There have been times. There have been moments few and
far between.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
But listen, I did think whoever was going to go
against the Dodgers. I thought the Mariners pitching could make
it an interesting series against the Dodgers, although La is
going to be a massive favorite. So if somebody's got
to be in. Congrats to our friends, our neighbors, our
friendly neighbors to the north of Canada.
Speaker 6 (10:34):
Well, you and I like Canada.
Speaker 7 (10:36):
I don't know if Canada feels the same way about.
Speaker 6 (10:37):
America right now.
Speaker 7 (10:39):
But that being said, Colin, I was going to text
you last night when Springer went yard, but I decided
it probably would have been too much, you know, like
thoughts and prayers, one of those deals. Yeah, yeah, that's
a tough one for you, man. Listen, I wouldn't know
that how it feels as a Jets fan. We haven't
been close to anything, you know, since in like fifteen years.
Speaker 6 (10:56):
But that's a tough one. But I'll go Dodgers in five.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Yeah, I mean the Dodgers have extinguished the Reds quickly.
The Phillies surprisingly quickly swept the Brewers, which did anybody
predict that? So they'll be the favorite. Say this for
the Blue Jays. You get to the top of that order. Man,
they just remember this. Look how they extinguished so quickly
the Yankees. So it's like not a surprise. They were
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a good team all year. Yeah, I'm really happy for him.
Speaker 7 (11:26):
You couldn't be more elated, you sir, sound like it, Colin.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
Yeah, a lot of stuff going on today. We got
a lot of stuff. We got Nick Wright in one
hour of The Herd Hierarchy.
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Speaker 1 (12:19):
You know, the first few weeks of football are beautiful
out September early October. The field is green, the air
is crisp and clean, smells like late summer and early fall.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
And then one morning you.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
Walk out on the driveway, you trip and fall on
the ice. You dent your yetti coffee mug. That morning
happened to the Seahawks last night. It's officially late October.
That was ugly. No longer September fifteenth, warm air, Chris feeling.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
That was awful.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Sam Darnold was inconsistent, total giveaways, twelve penalties. They called
a dumb trick play Cooper Cup throwing the ball the
good news their defensive line. Seattle defensive line for three
and a half hours, man to man dominated Houston.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
I feel bad for CJ. Stroud. CJ.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Stroud sits in the pocket, throws a beautiful ball. He's
under total duress. They can't get the offensive line right,
and Seattle's defensive front dominated. But Seattle was up fifteen
points at home in the fourth quarter, and what falled
was a punt, a fumble, an interception, and a punt.
So the you know what Seattle's trying to do. They
lead the NFL in rush attempts. They want to be
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a rush and a play action pass team, but they
also lead the NFL in giveaways. Last night they had
four and they are just two mistake prone at this
point to be an excellent team. They're a good team,
but they should have won last night thirty three to six.
A Donald fumble, a Donald pick late in the fourth quarter.
The only thing, if you look at it this year,
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they should be seven and oh, but Donald had the
fumble against the Niners, and then Donald had a late
pick in the game.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
Otherwise they're seven.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
And oh and I love Sam, but reckless is what
not only Donald's history is, it's what Seattle feels like now.
So I mean, Denver has back to back ugly wins,
it's a skill.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
I will give Seattle credit.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
They played very poorly, especially in the second half, and won.
And I don't think Houston's bad, I really do. I
think Houston's got good players. They're just so bad on
the offensive line that they can't create they can't keep
the defense off the field, they can't create long, consistent,
sustained drives because they.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
Get manhandled up front.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
And here was Sam Donald often atrocious looking win.
Speaker 7 (14:50):
You know.
Speaker 9 (14:51):
Obviously, I think the first half, you know, was really
solid for us as an offense, you know, and then
the second half it was just a different story, you know.
And I think, you know, we just got to hold
onto the football, you know, having a game like that
offensively and you still win the ballgame.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
Can't ask for more than that.
Speaker 9 (15:09):
And you know, we're just going to continue to learn
from from our mistakes and get better.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
Hey, last year, Kansas City was eleven to zero one
score games, and eight or nine of them they looked
like the losing team.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
Denver.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
This year Jets Giants out played in stretches by both
I mean that, I mean at least the Giants outplayed
him for three quarters. So there is a skill to
playing poorly and winning, and Seattle illustrated that last night.
That was a great example. It saved what would have
otherwise been a disastrous night in the Pacific Northwest. I'll
tell you JSN Ohio state wide receivers, and they got
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another couple in college right now. I mean, have you
watched Ohio State beat Wisconsin this weekend? They got nothing
but star five star receivers. JSN is a stud coming
into the season. We don't we don't know if he's
a nonumber one receiver right like he is, and he's
one of the better ones. So he and Darnald look
like they've been playing together for fifteen years. So I'll
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give Seattle credit. Donald had some experience in Minnesota. This
is the second youngest offense, and like Green Bay, which
has the youngest offense, it can be a little, you know,
a little uneven. Seattle can be really uneven. But they're
a Donald fumble and a Donald pick away from being
seven to zero. So you got to iron those wrinkles out.
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But a win's a win.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
J Mack with a.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
News no, no, turn on the news. This is the
Herdline News.
Speaker 7 (16:38):
All right, Colin, we're on to week eight and we're
gonna go to Green Bay and Pittsburgh. The most anticipated
matchup of the weekend Aaron Rodgers and the Steelers. First
time Rodgers will face his former team, the Packers. Everyone
will be talking about the matchup, but Matt Lafleur isn't
stressing the significance of his.
Speaker 10 (16:57):
Return in the Pittsburgh Steelers, who happen to have Aaron Rodgers.
I mean, it's as simple as that. That is for
you guys to talk about. Granted, I mean we've got
a lot of respect and love for Aaron. I mean
what he's done here. This game is not about that.
It's about going to Pittsburgh Sunday night football. Our guys
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will be jacked up. Their guys will be jacked up.
It's about the Green Bay Packers versus the Pittsburgh Steelers.
And that's for you guys to talk about.
Speaker 7 (17:26):
You know.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
I actually, I actually think Pittsburgh. This is a good
spot for Pittsburgh really.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
I mean, first of all, they go on Thursday night football.
They're a little humiliated. Tomlin has struggled on Thursday night football,
so they go play the Bengals. The defense gets humiliated
by Joe Flacco, so they're going to be in a
bad mood. They're at home where they're a better team.
Mike Tomlin has always been a great underdog coach there.
And the Packers are playing with their food a little bit.
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You know, they've been in close games. Packers are the
better team, but they you know, I think everybody feels
the same way about the Packers, including their fans. You
feel like they leave you wanting more, like they're good.
Shouldn't they be really, really really good. I mean, they
open up crushing Detroit and I thought, that's that's the
best team in the league, and they haven't been able
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to really give you that feeling since. I think Pittsburgh
and Aaron keep it really close. I always love when
teams that are very prideful like lose to a bad
team the following week, watch out like I love Detroit
last night, but they lost to Kansas City. I think
Tampa being humiliated. Next week watched Tampa play one of
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their most focused games of the year. So when a
team gets humiliated or they lose to a team they
should beat, like the Steelers losing to the Bengals on
Thursday night, watch Pittsburgh be inspired and give green Bay
everything they can handle.
Speaker 6 (18:51):
Interesting, So at three and a half, you lean.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
Highlight Pittsburgh is one of my second or third favorite
bets of the week.
Speaker 6 (18:57):
So here's the thing about the Packers. You touched on it.
Speaker 7 (18:59):
So that day they beat the Lions in the opener, impressive.
Then they beat Washington on Thursday, and everybody me, you,
everyone who watches football, crowned them as the best team
in the NFC. Right, you beat the two NFC powers
from last year. Since then, they have not covered the
spread in any games column.
Speaker 6 (19:14):
They lost to Cleveland, tig.
Speaker 7 (19:16):
Dallas, messed around with the Bengals, didn't cover, and then
last week didn't. So is it that they were kind
of feeling themselves after those first two wins and they
haven't locked in though.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
I Mean, I think Green Bay and Seattle are the
two youngest offenses, and now I think Seattle is much
more turnover prone than Green Bay is. But the similarity
between Green Bay and Seattle's offenses really explosive, really good teams,
but they make a lot of mistakes. Seattle makes a
ton of mistakes, and I think Green Bay is just
one of those teams where they leave you wanting more. Now,
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Green Bay's had some injuries, but they're both really good teams.
I would take Green Bay over Seattle right now. I
had Seattle in the hurd hierarchy and I took them
out this morning after that ugly performance last night.
Speaker 6 (20:00):
Really wow, harsh, I don't have anything on this.
Speaker 7 (20:03):
I kind of want to go counterintuitive and go Packers
at three and a half, but that could be foolish. Well,
we'll talk about it all week for sure. Let's move
on to the Dallas Cowboys Colin. They are starting to
get spicy. Big blowout over Washington. Offense is looking like
one of the most dangerous units in the league. Dallas
ranks among the top teams in points and yards per game,
and Dak says things can only get better.
Speaker 11 (20:27):
Confidence is earned. You don't just wake up and say, yeah,
I know I can do this. No, no, no, you
got to go do that, prove it to yourself, and then,
you know what I'm saying, you feel good about talking about.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
It and walking the walk.
Speaker 11 (20:35):
So this this group practices the right way and they've
earned the confidence and they go out there and we
play with it and it's fun. It really is fun.
Who knows what we can accomplish like this guy is
the lemon. We're just going to stay focused each and
every day at getting better.
Speaker 4 (20:52):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (20:53):
This is a really good game.
Speaker 7 (20:55):
This Dallas offense, which is elite increased this season against
the Denver defense, which we been hearing is elite. Yeah,
but the results don't match the hype. I mean, Jackson
Dart went up and down the field against him. I
look at earlier this season, Daniel Jones cooked them. I mean,
other than you know, walloping, Jake Browning and Justin Fields Colin.
Speaker 6 (21:15):
Is this Denver defense that good? Or is it in
name only?
Speaker 3 (21:18):
It's my favorite game of the weekend.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
Affordable defense, the best offense, two quarterbacks who are newsworthy.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
It's my favorite game of the weekend.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
I don't have a side yet, but in terms of
wanting to watch it, I think it's really really entertaining.
Speaker 6 (21:32):
Who do you get the.
Speaker 7 (21:33):
Edge to the Dallas offense which has Pickens and Lamback well,
by the way, Lamb.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
When I saw initially the line was three, my take was,
I you know, I always guess the line in my
head before I see it, and I thought it would
be Denver minus four. So when it was Denver minus three,
My take was Broncos are the side, the slight side.
So it's moved up to three and a half at
least I saw it three initially. So yeah, I feel Denver.
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You know, when a team is a four point favorite,
I almost always take the favorite. Vegas doesn't want to
make anybody a four point favorite. They want it to
be three and when they have to give up that
extra point. So I think if this moves up to four,
then Denver's really my side.
Speaker 7 (22:12):
So Dallas on the road this season, ready lost at
the Eagles, lost at the Bears, beat the Jets, which
kind of doesn't even count, lost at the Panthers, So
you go away from the fast track indoors at Jerry
World Outdoors.
Speaker 6 (22:26):
And they have not been as good.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
So I think I know.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
All I know is if Dallas wins this thing, they
get Arizona at home buy in the Raiders. So I mean,
you come out of this weekend four three and one
Cardinals by Raiders, you are in a really interesting situation.
Speaker 7 (22:45):
Well, Dallas in Chicago, no Joe could be fighting for
that a wild cards podcat and Chicago actually has the
tie breaker. All right, final story, let's go to this.
I'm stunned by this news. Lamar Jackson is still not
practicing what I was ready to are the Ravens in
this spot against the Bears. The market has set Baltimore
as a six and a half point favorite. Yep. I'm
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absolutely floored that Lamar, who hasn't played in two.
Speaker 6 (23:08):
Games and had a bye week, did.
Speaker 7 (23:11):
Not practice yesterday and we don't know if he's practicing today.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
That line tells you the respect for John Harbaugh off
of bye.
Speaker 7 (23:18):
Yeah, he's fourteen and three off of bye. I just
looked that up. But Baltimore reminder one in five now
Roquan Smith expected back.
Speaker 6 (23:25):
I don't care. I need to know if Lamar's playing
or not. I mean, yeah, okay.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
I think what the odds makers are telling you is
that Baltimore has to go on about a five game
winning streak and John Harbaugh off of bye. This team
is going to play with its hair on fire. This
is not a good spot for the Bears, who have
been winning ugly for four weeks. And it feels like
to me this is this is a bad spot for
the Bears and the Ravens. They have no breathing room.
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They have to win five straight games. Yeah, they have
to look up and have a five game winning streak
or they're like out of the running because Pittsburgh is
going to end up. You know, Tomlin's gonna end up
with a winning record because he always does.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
So you got to get to a positive record to
get into the playoffs.
Speaker 7 (24:07):
How's this scenario, Ravens win and uh, the Steelers lose
to the Green Bay Packers and oh, by the way,
Baltimore still has two against the Steelers left. I don't
think it's over one of the smart bets. Would you
do this, Colin? Bet the Ravens to win the division?
Speaker 3 (24:23):
I think it's good. I think it's an interesting bet.
Speaker 7 (24:25):
Yeah, this weekend is a big swing. Now, if Lamar
is not playing, I'm not touching it. But I do
believe Lamar. He's got to play a hamstring.
Speaker 6 (24:33):
For three weeks. I thought this guy was a young,
extraordinary athlete. He can't get them kick him back for.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
A freaking hamstring. Come on, j Maack with the news.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by the
herd Line News.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
So the NBA season starts tonight. I will give you
my five bold predictions after the commercial. But I want
to touch on this. So NBA writer Yarren Weizman has
a new book it's called The Hollywood Ending, The Dreams
and Drama of the Lebron Lakers, And in the book,
Westbrook is very critical of Lebron James. He shouldered a
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lot of the blame when he joined the Lakers and
they struggled. Basically, he calls out Lebron James for being
a phony. And so Russell Westbrook is runs hot. He's
very intense, he's highly emotional. He always feels, how can
I put this kind of slided? But he's no phony.
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Westbrook is as real as it gets. I think, in fact,
I would argue Westbrook in his career has been real
to a fault. He would have benefited greatly sometimes being
a little bit more of a politician and a little
bit less emotional and outburst capable, even with fans. Someone
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pretty close to Lebron's circle told me one time, Westbrook
hates everybody.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
I don't know if that's.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
True, but Lebron is a very rare athlete globally, he's
a billionaire. He's in that Michael Tiger rinaldo O Tawny space.
And I think a fair criticism of Lebron and maybe
if I was Lebron, I'd be in this space too,
is that he's hyper aware of his brand and is
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largely at this point protecting it for he and his family.
So sometimes he comes across a little bit insincere, a
little more aware of every tweet, that he's seeking popularity
and brand protection, and that it's kind of phony and
it's kind of insincere. I've heard that criticism one hundred
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times about Lebron, But again, if you go back and
look at this whole relationship, it should have never been fostered.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
It should have never happened.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
Russell Westbrook is literally the opposite personality of Lebron James.
It was never gonna work. He's a trapeze artist. You're
not quite sure with Westbrook what's coming next. And Lebron
is more consultant from a distance, not gonna put his
toe in the water unless he knows it's safe. And
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these two were never gonna work. One is pretty easy
to play with in terms of mobimost there.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
Every start that's played with Lebron has been good.
Speaker 4 (27:26):
Right.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
It felt like he kind of salvaged Jr. Smith's career. Jr.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
Smith in New York was kind of out of sorts,
and he goes to Cleveland. He plays with Lebron, and
all of a sudden, everybody loves Jr. Smith And he
got to a final with Matthew della Vedova and everybody
was out on Kyrie and then he fixed the Kyrie
thing in Cleveland, and eventually they didn't work. But I mean,
Lebron's made everything kind of work. Plays with a Deep
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played with Wade, played with Bosh, played with Kyrie, played
with Kevin Love. He kind of plays with everybody. Westbrook
struggles to play with anybody. But to Westbrook's credit, he's sincere,
he's honest, He's loyal as the day is long to
the people that are close to him, and I know
people that love Westbrook. He just runs hot and Lebron
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doesn't allow. I mean, I've always said it's very interesting
Lebron's never gotten into a fight in the NBA. One
of the biggest, strongest guys, he never got into a fight.
I mean, I mean Michael Jordan punched teammates. I mean,
just different personalities. So I just I think Lebron's a
very measured, calculated brand, protecting global Superstar and Westbrook. What
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you see is what you get, and this puppy was
never gonna work. Ever, some dudes are never meant to
be roommates, right, I mean, you could have buddies in college,
you're like somebody's a partier, you're a serious student.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
You can be friends. You're not meant to live together.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
And Westbrook and Lebron, had the Lakers really really thought
about it, should have never happened. Deal should have never happened.
So it's hard for me to blame Westbrook or Lebron.
I'll have my five bold NBA predictions Colin Herd Hierarchy,
Top of the Hour, plus Nick Right, Greg Olsen two.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
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Speaker 7 (29:16):
All eyes turn to Big Noon for a make or
break clash. Undefeated Indiana number two for the first time
in program history, takes on Ucla, who looks to shock.
Speaker 6 (29:29):
The Big ten.
Speaker 7 (29:30):
It all starts with Big Noon kickoff at ten am Eastern,
live from Bloomington. Then it's Ucla Indiana Holy on Fox.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
Yeah, Ucla as shocking, shocking what they've done. So The
NBA season starts tonight the West has completely separated from
the East. The West, the top four to five teams
in the West arguably are better than the best team
in the East. Now, Jason Tatum comes back and plays
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this year, most doubted, I wouldn't be shocked in game
sixty five or something. I mean, all these pro athletes
in their prime physically get healthier faster than we predict.
If Jason Tatum came back, then I think Boston's a
top four team in the league. Maybe top three Nicks aren't.
But I thought, let's just put it out there. These
are my five bold NBA predictions. I hit in a
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couple last year, missed in a couple.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
Number one.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
OKC, despite the fact they're an overwhelming favorite in the Desert,
will not win. They will not repeat as champions. The
West is too deep. Sga played ninety nine games last year,
second year in a row.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
He doesn't miss games.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
Jalen Williams coming off an injury between Minnesota and Denver,
Between the Lakers and Dallas, I think the West is
too deep. I don't buy of the twenty six previous
teams to win sixty four plus games in a season,
twenty five won fewer games the following season, so I
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don't think they'll get home court advantage, which I think
in the West matters because these teams you're on the
margins here, they're all very good. So number one okay
seed does not repeat. Number two. Luca wins his first
career MVP, So it's going to be a great story,
and part of winning MVP is the narrative. Skinny Luca
committed Luca. Lakers all in on Luca Lebron starting the
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season in recovery. His ball usage will go back to
being number one in the league. Obviously, Austin Reeves is
never going to take the ball out of his hands
in big spaces. I think he's going to lead the
NBA in scoring. You know, he was a dunker, played
downhill early, got a little husky, only had one dunk
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last year. I think the best Luca returns. He's motivated,
the Lakers are all in. I think JJ Reddick is
an above average offensive coach. He'll get the ball to
him in the right spots. Luca becomes MVP. My surprise
team out West number three, Cooper Flag plays point guard
and Dallas makes the Western Conference final. Best front court
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by a mile in the NBA, Derek Lively, Daniel Gafford,
A D Washington. They got great size. Kyrie Irving probably
probably comes back later in the year in his magic,
But I think Cooper Flag is gonna walk in when
Rookie of the Year going away. I just I think
this is one of those deals they fell apart last year.
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I love their size. I don't think anybody defensively quite
can stack the size and length that Dallas can. I
don't know if they face the t Wolves in the
Western Conference finals, that would be my guess or Denver,
but it's not. It's not gonna be the Golden State
Warriors because my number four bold prediction the Warriors missed
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the playoffs. It is the second oldest team in the end.
Let's be honest, they had one playoff series went over
the last two years. They've been hobbled. They don't want
to give up Pods in a trade deal. They're willing
to give up Kaminga, But what are you going to
get for Kaminga? So my take is unless you go
all in on multiple draft picks, Pods and Kaminga, you're
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not getting a star that can accompany Steph Curry and
Pods is what he is to this point in his career.
He's got a little Klay Thompson. But I mean, this
is an old team that brought in Al Horford. I
love Al Horford. That's not the answer. They just got
older and number five Orlando Magic. NBA Finals won't be.
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The Knicks won't be, the Bucks won't be, the Sixers
will not be. The Cavs don't trust him. Last season
they had key injuries to Franz Wagner, Paulo Boncaro, Jalen Suggs.
They were a great number one scoring defense in the league.
They could not shoot threes. They bring in Desmond Vane
from Memphis, which I thought was a super smart move.
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This is a you got a bunch of dudes entering
their prime. The East is weak and I like Orlando
a lot. Now again, they've been back to back first
round exits, but they bring in a veteran who can
hit threes. I think the East, I'm not sure the
East has been without Halliburton in Indiana and without Jason Tatum.
Speaker 3 (34:25):
It is wide open. You can say what about the Knicks.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
Karl Anthony Towns and Jalen Brunson are not good on
the floor. Together both suboptimal defensive players. They went from
TIBs to Mike Brown. Many think they won't be as
good coaching. I think the Knicks last year were a
wonderful story, but what have they done to elevate themselves?
Speaker 3 (34:46):
And again, if you have Carl Anthony Towns.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
Your second best offensive player on the floor, with Jalen
Brunson your lead offensive player, we know how that turns out.
You'll get eaten. The live teams will attack the pick
and roll. The best thing for the Knicks is Jason
Ta him and Halliburton won't play. If they did, I
would think less of the next I'm on Orlando in
a very very weak Eastern Conference.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
J Mac, I know you've got a thought.
Speaker 6 (35:13):
You got some hot, hot takes. I love this. I
know we're happy the NBA is back.
Speaker 7 (35:18):
Listen, you forgot the Nicks are going to be trading
for Giannis here by the trade deadline, so then Nick
will be fine in the East. I am curious this
OKC stuff. Are you surprised that there is no use
for okac all anybody's talking about in the eve of
the NBA season?
Speaker 1 (35:34):
Oh?
Speaker 7 (35:34):
Can you hear what Lebron said in that in that
meeting like four years ago in a book, like, nobody's
talking about SGA and Okac.
Speaker 3 (35:42):
Nobody with you.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
The new Adam Silver NBA is you can't stack too
many good players. Chet Holmgren so far has been a
bit injury prone. Jalen Williams is recovering from an injury.
SGA is like a pitcher that's pitched three hundred innings
in back to back years. And they brought everybody back
a few years ago Tampa on the Super Bowl, remember that,
And they brought everybody back. Yeah, and then the following
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year there was this there was this idea, this sense
that you shouldn't bring everybody back. You need a new
energy every year. You need a new energy. You need
to tweak and tweak and tweak. And I kind of
feel like the Knicks, they'll be the same team, same issues,
and people like Tims more than Mike Brown. I like Mike,
he's fine, and I kind of feel like with OKAC,
you'll be good, but they're not gonna have home court advantage.
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I think Minnesota will be better and keeps getting better.
I think the Lakers are probably gonna be better. I
mean JJ Reddick second year, Yes, I think Denver had
a ton of injuries last year. They'll be better. I
think Dallas can't be as beat up as last year.
Plus Kloper fact, So Dallas better, Minnesota better, Lakers better.
I think the West is just. I mean, I don't
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think Golden State is going to make the playoffs. But
Golden State they're old. But Buddy healed and Steph and
Draymont and Horford and Pods and Kaminga, and I don't
think they'll make the playoff. They could be three seed
in the East, and that's possible.
Speaker 7 (37:02):
You didn't mention once the team that I have winning
the NBA title, and that's the Houston Rockets, Kevin Durant,
Amen Thompson, Shingoon.
Speaker 6 (37:11):
This team is stacked.
Speaker 7 (37:13):
Did you see tonight? They're gonna be starting their starting
lineup as six, seven and up. Kevin Durant is gonna
play shooting guard. This is a new NBA. There's a
bunch of teams are going big now. The whole guard
era is kind of in the past. I think is
he a good takes Colin I like it.
Speaker 6 (37:29):
I'm fired up.
Speaker 3 (37:30):
Yeah, I mean, I think Houston's gonna be fine.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
I don't know who's gonna win the West. I just
have Dallas in the Western Conference finals. Because usually this
is the way it works in sports, the media, myself included,
We pay attention to one thing and then something else happens,
and everybody's focused on Houston and Dallas is like, now,
we like our coach, we like our front line. We
can go big if Houston wants to go big. Kad
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has a recent history of getting banged up.
Speaker 3 (37:57):
I don't know. I look at Dallas and nobody's attention.
Speaker 1 (38:01):
First of all, you could argue the top six teams
in the league are all West.
Speaker 3 (38:05):
Yes, I mean it is.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
It is like the SEC five years ago, before like Oregon, Washington, USC,
UCLA joined the Pac twelve or joined the Big ten,
it was like there was the SEC and whoever was
second wasn't close.
Speaker 3 (38:19):
Now it's very even.
Speaker 7 (38:20):
But I like your Orlando call. That's that's kind of bold.
I like that a lot.
Speaker 3 (38:24):
Right now, the team that added a shooter, we don't
really talk.
Speaker 6 (38:27):
About them anymore.
Speaker 7 (38:28):
I know you're out on this guy, Joel Embiid sixers
when they're healthy, and assuming they will be, they could
be dangerous only because there's no Boston or no Indiana
this year as factors giving the injuries, keep an eye
on the Sixers.
Speaker 6 (38:40):
They've got some young guys. Colin your guy.
Speaker 7 (38:42):
Tyrese Maxy, he was basically your your Jayden Daniels. Remember
you loved him, and I was like, Dad, plump the Brakes.
Terre's Maxie's a bowler, and they got some young guys.
I like the Sixers a little bit this year.
Speaker 1 (38:54):
You know, it's funny watching the Mariners last night and
if you watch Aaron Boone, Dave Roberts, Dan Wilson get
clobbered by the baseball the Seamheads.
Speaker 3 (39:06):
And the truth is now.
Speaker 1 (39:08):
Major league managers have been muted, even Aaron Boone and
I don't know what his salary is, but Dave Roberts,
we pay college football coaches double what we pay major
league managers in major markets like Dodger, Astro, Atlanta, New
York markets. And so as I watch these managers, people
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always complain about the managers. And it's always the same thing,
which is your two player friendly? You know you need
to pull the picture. It's always like when are you
pulling the picture? You have to be pro player as
a major league manager these days, you don't have the power.
You don't have the salary power. The owners are billionaires.
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Now it's a rounding air to fire manager. You don't
have the salary power. The analytic crew upstairs gives you
the batting lineup and all the players know it. So
Dan Wilson last night, I think it's a legitimate criticize criticism.
Pitching to George Springer. I think that's the rare time
I would say that's a mistake. George Springer lives for
(40:11):
those moments. He's the last guy in the world you
wanted to face. But it is interesting all these managers.
We don't blame the players in baseball. We don't even
blame the pitchers. We blame the managers. Dan Wilson's taken
all the heat in Seattle today, a beloved former Mayrin.
It's not the guy who gives up the bomb, it's
the manager. And that's just what baseball is going forward.
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