October 27, 2025 • 40 mins
Colin Cowherd praises the Green Bay Packers for their innovative offensive approach that keeps them in the Super Bowl contender conversation, while criticizing the Pittsburgh Steelers for falling behind the modern NFL curve
It's becoming more clear that Caleb Williams and HC Ben Johnson have styles that simply do not match
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Speaker 1 (00:51):
Where Colin was right, where Colin was wrong, There's obviously
plenty of both. And you gotta say the Green Bay
Packers no quarterback. It can be farm it can be Rogers,
it can be Jordan Love. That second half last night.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
Whoo yeah, twenty straight completions.
Speaker 5 (01:14):
Woo.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Let's start with that.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
So I saw a headline this morning, up and coming
Jordan loves Stars as the Packers beat the Steelers. Jordan
Love second half on the road standalone game against maybe
a Hall of Fame coach and a veteran defense that's
as good as second half and that spot as farvn
Rogers had, he is elite arm size, mobility, accuracy. Combine
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that with Matt Lafleur's play design and the green Bay
smart front office. This is going to be a Super
Bowl capable winning team for the next five years minimum.
And last night was very instructive for NFL fans. I
watched a game between the Packers and the Steelers, and
I saw smart and progressive and offensively nimble for one franchise,
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And then I also watched the Steelers. I mean, these
are two franchises going in the opposite direction, with the
opposite ideology. Aaron Rodgers has done a good job to
put some makeup on this organization, but need a facelift.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Two iconic franchises.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
One of them has embraced offense, one as an old quarterback,
one as a young star. One is loaded with young
talent at wide receiver and tight end. The other spends
a fortune on defense. It's revolutionary against the rust Belt.
As Steelers spent all that money on defense, why do
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they tackle so poorly? And for the record, Las Vegas season.
You know who's favored to win the AFC North this morning,
the two and five Baltimore Ravens. You can't fool Vegas.
And you can see it in the Steelers' mentality. First half,
fourth and three, let's kick a field goal. That's not it, man,
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that's not it. The second half by Jordan Love and
Matt LeFleur, all time stuff, sixteen to nineteen, outscore the
Steelers twenty eight to nine, passer rating at one forty eight.
And the Steelers meanwhile dead last and fourth down attempts.
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It's punts and field goals. Mike Tomlin, Pittsburgh stuck in
the wrong era, and it was so instructive to watch
green Bay, little small market green Bay draft and develop
and pay. I mean there, you look at what green
Bay is paying star quarterback Micah Parsons. It's all the
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right stuff, right. There's an offensive lineman making a lot
of money. There's a coach and a quarterback making money.
There's a pass rusher making money. Pittsburgh gets old. It's defense.
Aaron's doing the best job you can to put a
little makeup on the blemishes, but they need a lot
more than that. This was about Jordan Love. This is
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what Green Bay does. Pittsburgh doesn't show the urgency at quarterbacks,
so they end up with.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
A forty one year old quarterback.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Green Bay drafts quarterbacks three years before they need them,
let them develop, and Jordan Love is no longer up
and coming.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
Stop it.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
He's the top six to seven guy in the league.
He has officially arrived as a star quarterback in this league.
And here is Matt Lafleuur after.
Speaker 6 (04:39):
It's great for jan Jordan's worked his off to get here.
You know, he was patient throughout the process, throughout the journey,
and he just he took advantage of the opportunity.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
He's a great teammate.
Speaker 6 (04:55):
He encourages the other guys, he's a hell of a leader,
and he's really grown as a football player.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
Yeah, there's no up and coming about it. That second
half in that space, that defense, that coach, that was
something else. And I said this last year and I've
said it a half a dozen times this year. That
tight end Craft that is a ten year Pro bowler.
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That guy is unbelievable. There's your Travis Kelce. I mean,
that kid is unbelievable. It's amazing where you get these
tight end small schools. Fourth round, George Kittle, fifth round.
That kid is an all time talent. Way to go Packers.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Well well, well, what do you know?
Speaker 1 (05:40):
As the Packers are surging the rival Bears at the
most important position and offense, look a little lost. That
was a bad loss to Baltimore. Lamar Jackson can't play
and the Ravens still controlled the game straight week or
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is it second straight week? Caleb Williams didn't have a touchdown,
So first, Tyler Huntley.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
Deserves a lot of credit.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
The backup quarterback for the Ravens total pro, totally coachable,
very efficient. That kid seventy seven percent completion percentage of
no turnovers, never got the Ravens in trouble. Let's let's
be honest. He was tremendous. He's exactly what a backup
quarterback should be. Let's give that kid credit. Tyler Huntley,
you are a pro. You are exactly what I want
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from a backup. I mean he made every time they
asked him to make a big throw, he did it.
So let's just not blast Caleb. That is what a
backup quarterback is. I may need you twice a year.
Lamar was there high five in him, pro gets the
playoff in time, made three or four big throws, new
when to get down, new when to throw it away.
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That's one of the best backup performances you're gonna see. Now,
let's talk Caleb, because that's what the game was about.
Ben Johnson is a ton and rhythm head coach for
the Bears, Folks, Caleb is not a timing rhythm quarterback.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
It's a weird marriage.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Maybe it lasts, but they're gonna be in therapy for
twenty five years. This thing is going to be a
weird marriage. Caleb. Here's what's worrisome. If you look at Caleb,
he's very good right in the on script in the
first quarter, but in the second through fourth quarters he's
completing fifty eight percent of his throws and it gets worse.
On the opening drive of the game, Caleb Williams this
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year completes eighty one percent of his throws with one
hundred and eleven passer rating. The rest of the game
he completes fifty nine percent with an eighty seven passer rating.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
You take away that opening drive with.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Ben Johnson and I've said you got the right coach,
and it gets ugly. I mean the Bears offense. It's
like that kid when the parents are home. He's fine,
they leave, go to the grocery store, they come back
and the house is burned down. You can't script the
entire game. You gotta be good beyond the first or
second series. You got to be able to do stuff
on your road. And he's dynamic. I think he's a
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nice guy. He's got a big arm. He's obviously on script,
very coachable. But top tier quarterbacks hit the layups, even
the layups look hard. And that interception by Caleb is
a prime example. Caleb saw it one way, that interception,
he saw it one way. Ben Johnson sees this interception
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an entirely different way.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
Listen to this.
Speaker 5 (08:29):
He undercut the path, the route, and I, you know,
I could have let him know farther out in front
instead of trying to give him a shot right here.
And you know that's that's you know, he did it.
He made a great break on the play. Just unfortunate
where we were in a field in the situation.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
Yeah, I have to check it out on film just
one more time.
Speaker 5 (08:47):
Just in my mind, there might have been another option
that we could have gotten gotten to.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
Not good.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
If I would have told you before the game one
of these quarterbacks would complete seventy seven percent of his
throws and have a one hundred and seventeen passer rating,
you probably wouldn't have guessed. The undrafted career backup.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
Not good.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
Again, some marriages need a lot of therapy. And I
think the Bears have to play it out for the
rest of the year and probably next year. And there
is a big arm that throw a DJ Moore. It
could be exciting, It is fun. There are moments he's talented.
I'm not saying that, but the top tier quarterbacks in
this league all have something in common. Twelve yards and
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under the laps Drake May it's it's easy. I mean,
it's just really easy looking some of this stuff is.
It shouldn't be this hard. It shouldn't be this difficult.
We've seen him to open the season. We've seen them
with extra time. It just looks all the time. And again,
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first drive, he's one quarterback, rest of game he's another.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
So he's coachable.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
He listens, but you can't hold a hand, you can't babysit.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
In this league.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
At some point you're gonna have fourteen possessions twelve are
kind of on you. So I've said before, your eyes
don't lie. This is not ideal. I mean, and for
the record, Sean mcvayh chose Jared Goff and he moved
off him. Ben Johnson didn't choose Caleb. I'm not saying
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there's resentment, but this is a timing rhythm coach. It's
not a timing and rhythm quarterback. You can win with
timing and rhythm. You can win Cam Newton got to
a Super Bowl. You can win the other way. I think,
for consistency's sake, you gotta be more timing and rhythm
than just do it yourself. For the record, Jordan Love
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can do the timing and rhythm, but Jordan Love also
sees the field. He does a lot of stuff on
his own. So does Mahomes. I mean, the more I
watch Jordan Love, you know who I see? Patrick Mahomes.
That's what I see. I'm not saying he's Patrick Mahomes.
But when I looked at Andrew Luck, I said five
years ago, I'm like, Sam Darnold is like eighty percent
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of Andrew Luck. He's not as good as Andrew Luck.
But when I watched Darnold come out. I said, it's
like Andrew Luck not as good when I watched Jordan
Love's size movement arm can follow, coaching.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
Can be good. Offscript, I see some.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
Mahomes, some mahomes with Caleb. I don't know exactly what
I see. I don't I don't quite know the timing
and rhythm stuff. It said before, it's hard to quarterback
efficiently in the NFL, but it can't look too hard.
Like marriage isn't easy. But if you're in therapy twice
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a week, it probably isn't gonna work.
Speaker 7 (12:00):
Right.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
So that's where we are today, j Mack. Once again,
here come the Packers surging head it to a Super
Bowl in Chicago's trying to figure out offense.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
You know, I saw an interesting stat that Kyle Hamilton,
the great safety for the Ravens, was in the box
on sixty one percent of snaps. So the Ravens said,
we're gonna take away the run game. Caleb, can you
beat us?
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (12:22):
He couldn't. He could not do it. You take away
the run game. And by the way, I think you're
letting the Bears defense off the hook, Colin. They let
Tyler Huntley get the Ravens of the red zone six times.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
Well, you know what, you know what it is the
Bears defense. It's a little fools goal. Yes, it's a
takeaway defense, right, Okay, so when they take the ball
away they go on a four game winning street. But
when they don't take it away, they give up like
six yards of play. And you saw it time and
time again. Is I mean we got to give credit
to Tyler Huntley. I know he's a backup and he's
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not a star, and he doesn't he's in our business.
We're not going to talk a lot about him. That
is exactly what I want. I'm a backup quarterback. That
was one of the most impressive backup quarterback performances. I mean,
if you didn't know who he was, you'd be like, oh,
that guy's pretty good. You can win playoff games with
that guy.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
I think the Bears were down a few guys in
the secondary, so like things lined.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
Up, the whole league is down Peape. That's the problem.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
You know.
Speaker 4 (13:18):
Listen, my Jets put up five hundred yards of offense
and Garrett Wilson didn't even play.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
It's like, what where did that come from? Yeah?
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Speaker 1 (14:17):
Welcome back, Colin Right, Colin Wrong, Next Hour. Yes, it's
it's been brought to my attention that I went four
and one with a blazing five for the third week
in a row.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
Let's not brag about it.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
Let's just put our head down and try to get
a five and oh week whatever. So Denver, Dallas, Mike Rabel,
and Sean Payton are proving even if you're saddled with
dead cap money from Hell or an average roster New England,
it doesn't take that long to win in this league.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
It really doesn't. You watch that game. Denver's got a
lot of really good players, and a lot of them
Sean Payton has his fingerprint on Denver's got four different receivers,
won a rookie from Illinois, all long, all run well, all.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
Can catch, and two excellent shifty running backs. For the critics,
the mock draft critics that criticized the RJ. Harvey picking
the second round, Eh, he's good too. Bo Nix is young.
He can uncork ugly ones, but sixteen seventeen yards and under,
he's pretty surgical man, and he's got weapons everywhere. Don't
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put this on DAK. There's nothing DAC could do. There
were guys wide open. They were missing their top three safeties.
That's not an excuse. Their defense isn't good with safeties.
But I've never understood the critics of Sean Payton. The
Saints were a disaster when he got their worst franchise
in the league. They made the playoffs the following year.
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I mean, Denver's got the worst dead cap money situation
in the history.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
Of the league.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
This roster is stacked on guys that Sean Payton said,
get me that guy from a directional school receivers, running backs.
I mean they got JK. Dobbins that cost him a
kitcat bar. They paid nothing. He's now third in the
NFL in rushing.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
JK.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Dobbins, who, for the record, is a great guy. Easy
to root for it because of the injuries. But here
here's the other thing. Pitchburg pays a fortune for defense,
and they can't stop any good quarterbacks. The Denver offense
bottom third of the NFL in payroll. They can't spend
any money on it because of Russell Wilson's contract.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
They're not paying for this offense yet.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
So I mean, I'm just I love bo Nicks, but
this Denver Broncos have Sean Payton written all over it.
And some of these guys, it could have been Bill
Walsh or Jimmy Johnson or Bill Parcells or Mike Vrabel
and McVeigh and Andy Reid and Sean Payton. These guys
can right the ship much faster. The first year. I
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don't care if you're Jimmy or Sean Payton. The first
year can be bumpy. But Sean's one of those rare
guys that knows personnel. You could put him watching film
like a GM.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
He knows it.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
His footprint is all over this roster. It's almost like
in Hollywood. If you watch a movie, I always looked
not at the actors. First thing I always look for
in a movie is who's the director, Scorsese, Spielberg, Christopher Nolan,
the Cohen Brothers. Doesn't mean it's gonna win an Oscar.
It doesn't mean Rabel and Sean Payton gonna win a
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Super Bowl. But you know the movie's good made, smartly constructed, thoughtful.
There's nothing Dallas can do. There's nothing Dak can do
Denver's roster. I said this a couple of years ago
about Indianapolis. Everybody was banging on Chris Vaalor of the GM,
and I said, are you watching the same team?
Speaker 3 (17:45):
I am?
Speaker 1 (17:46):
I said that last year Coltster got players everywhere. They
just have to have a competent quarterback. This Denver roster.
Maybe it's not Philadelphia. Man, they got dudes everywhere. I
mean that receiving core. You can go Courtland's, you can
go Franklin, the kid out of Illinois, you go Mims, Harvey, Dobbins,
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and Bonnicks. Underneath stuff, especially, I think Sean Payton is
coaching them for the playoffs. He is throwing the ball
down the field more because he wants this team to
be able if they go in against the Mahomes or
a Josh Allen or a Herbert and they trail and
they have.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
To play catch up. I'm watching it.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
I feel like Sean Payton has got his eyes way
down on the horizon that he is forcing Bonnicks get
it downfield, throw the ball downfield. But I love the roster,
and I mean, I'm watching that and there's just Dallas
just didn't have the folks. Sean Payton after I wanted to.
Speaker 9 (18:49):
Keeping last you know that we went into the game.
We recognized the injuries. There's a lot of injuries, you know,
on our team throughout the league that was unimportant to us.
I just didn't think they could keep up with what
we were doing. So I had said to the defense periodically,
can you guys keep up with us, And yeah, I
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thought it was a pretty one sided game.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
I know, you know, I mean, Sean is so blunt
and so honest. But there's just certain teams you just
watch them on television and you're like, I mean, how many.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
Receivers do they have?
Speaker 1 (19:31):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (19:31):
Dack did everything he could do.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
But when your trail, big, high altitude, Dallas has never
played well against Denver, you got to go back to
Troy Aikman the last time Dallas. I feel, honestly, it
feels like that's the last time Dallas beat him. Denver's
had their number forever, and yesterday it wasn't particularly close.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
Jmack with the.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
News, No turns, this is the headline news.
Speaker 4 (19:55):
All right, call, Let's start with the Philadelphia Eagles and
Saquon Barkley. He finally he had a good game, peeling
off a sixty five yard touchdown run on the second play.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
From scrimmage, finished with over.
Speaker 4 (20:06):
One hundred yards for the first time of the season rushing. Obviously,
sixty five yard was a big chunk of that, but
he did have one hundred and seventy four total yards
two touchdowns. Now, interestingly, Colin, his backup Tank Biggsby came on,
sae Quon kind of left early with an injury, and
Tank Bigsby went for over one hundred and nine carries.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
I think that's interesting. Just file that away.
Speaker 4 (20:27):
But here is Saquon talking about his best game of
the season.
Speaker 10 (20:31):
A lot of you if I said I didn't, it
wasn't like finally, it's always great to win. It's always
great to be a division viral. You know, for sure,
we definitely saw how they celebrated and you know when
they beat us last time. But I think one of
my favorite things coach Sirianni says is, you know the
verrenge mindset that lasts for five minutes and then it
goes back to your habits.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
Did you notice that it was yards per play total yards?
It was easily the best Eagles offensive performance and AJ
Brown did not play.
Speaker 4 (21:06):
Yeah, well, they tweaked some stuff, Colin. They went heavy,
they went with three tight end sets. Remember McVeigh tweaked
things in London with the Rams.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
Eagles tweaking.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
They went six.
Speaker 4 (21:15):
Offensive linemen a lot in this game, sof new look,
and they just kind of bullied the Giants at the
line of scrimmage. I thought about that. Driving into work
this morning, I'm like, I wonder if Colin's gonna say, hey,
they can trade AJ Brown. Look, they can live without him.
It's just one game. It's the largely dumpster fire Giants.
I don't know that I would make any sweeping conclusions.
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Is Johan Dotson going to be mossing people all season?
Speaker 3 (21:40):
Like that's not happening.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
Bro, come on, I will say this, though you're New England,
you're looking at Kansas City, you know, you're looking at Herbert,
You're looking at Josh Allen, and you got young Drake
May and you're like, well, Vrabel had AJ Brown in
Tennessee at Carushton when he left, and New England's good
and they've got a bunch of good b and number
two and three receivers. Boy, it really helped have a
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physical presence on the perimeter with Drake May, who you're
not paying anything for the next four years, you know,
and you're gonna ship him to the other conference that
if you're Philadelphia, you're like, well, you're not gonna get
to the super Bowl. He's not gonna come back and
burn me because you're not getting through Kansas City and
Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
Probably not.
Speaker 4 (22:21):
But so the counter would be, why would you mess
with the great juju that.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
The Patriots have?
Speaker 7 (22:27):
Right now?
Speaker 4 (22:27):
Everything's kumba ya. There's no alpha like wide Receiver being
a diva. Do you want to bring that into your
locker room?
Speaker 5 (22:34):
Now?
Speaker 4 (22:35):
Your counter, of course is Drabel knows him, he's gonna
fall in line.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
I'm like, that's a little risky.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
But I don't really get no biscuit. I don't think
AJ Brown is a bad guy.
Speaker 4 (22:44):
I've said this about Oh no, no, no, I'm not
saying he's a bad guy.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
No no.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
But I'm saying is there are receivers Stefan Diggs AJ
Brown For a couple of years, no big deal, and
then the drama. I was told a year ago that
there was drama in the locker room. I said it,
and I got a lot of pushback from Eagle fans.
This thing's been happening for a year. But you know,
you win the Super Bowl, everybody's quiet, it's all great.
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Then all of a sudden you have struggles. But it's
not a coincidence. And I remember when Dez Bryant and
Dak Prescott him into the league des is great. Dez
was a touchdown magnet, but in the end they did
not want Dez getting in Dak's headspace. Every time he
went to the sideline, they moved off. Dak flourished. This
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is one of these things. This Jalen is an adult.
He's not going to deal with a drama. He didn't
have any interest. He just wants to win an AJ
Brown And I'm not criticizing him for us.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
He's a Hall of Famer. He wants touches and the
offense is better without him.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Is he a hall I mean hall of Famer.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
I mean he's a Hall of Fame talent. He's a
Hall of Fame.
Speaker 4 (23:48):
I don't agree with that.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
I would agree with that.
Speaker 4 (23:50):
Let's move to college football. Colin not so surprising. Brian
Kelly gets run out of LSU this weekend.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
It's funny.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
I was watching this game Saturday.
Speaker 4 (23:59):
It's eighteen fourteen LSU, and then I start to get
ready for a Halloween party and take a shower and stuff.
I come out and Texas A and M scores like
twenty one in a row, and at that point You're like,
WHOA this is at LSU. Brian Kelly seems to have
lost the locker room, he lost the boosters, and now
he's done Colin. It's over another huge buyout. I think
the number was fifty three million dollars. Was his buyout
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larger than James Franklin.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
I had a coach tell me last year. Had the
coach said, listen, he's mid sixties, that he's a Midwest guy.
He was ready to retire. He sniffed the NFL about
five years ago, and the NFL was not interested. He
was interested. He was kind of done with college. And
then a company comes up called LSU Football and says, yeah,
(24:47):
here's you know, here's seventy eighty ninety million dollars. And
he goes to his family and says, you know, we
can get that second.
Speaker 4 (24:53):
Vacation home, second, you mean fifth, you know?
Speaker 1 (24:56):
I mean So the reality is this happens a lot
where he'd in a success three different programs. He had
his pensions, he had his money. He sniffed NFL at
Notre Dame. They weren't interested. He was ready to shut
it down, and then LSU came with a bag of money,
and he said went to his family and said, guys,
what do you think? And they're like go for a dad.
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It never felt like I love. I think Brian's a
great coach, but this never felt like a great fit.
He's a Midwestern guy, and I just think I think
he would have fit at Penn State today better than LSU.
I think he'd fit at Wisconsin. But he doesn't feel
like USC. He doesn't feel like LSU. There are Miami,
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there are these jobs that they feel like a certain
personality works. Miami Hurricanes. I think their current coach feels
like the Hurricanes USC LSU. It is very unique part
of the country. I think, I think he's a good coach.
I think he took the job for the wrong reasons,
and the reason was a bag full of.
Speaker 4 (26:01):
Cash with a good football mind, not a great human being.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
Colin I was.
Speaker 4 (26:06):
I know a couple of quarterbacks personally who have friends
with they have experiences with Brian Kelly, and I'm just
telling you he is not the nicest, warmest individual.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
Well, he's not a warm, cuddly guy. Generationally, I don't
I'm not gonna make judgments on him. I just think generationally,
the older coaches are louder, They bark their I mean,
Nick Shaban wins, but.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
Steven's not perceived as a jerk. Okay, he gets a
very animator on the sideline.
Speaker 4 (26:30):
He'll say tough stuff, but he has been loved by
his players. Go talk to some former Brian Kelly players.
The stories are going to start to come out from LSU.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
They don't like him.
Speaker 4 (26:39):
I'm just telling you, he's not a nice guy, Colin.
And when you're not nice and you lose, they're going
to run you out of town. I don't even know
if he surfaces again. Based on what you're saying is
that he was ready to shut it down.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
I think he's ready to golf and hang out. He
could go to a mid major and clean up and dominate.
You know, I don't know that he needs that. He's
got one hundred million in the bank. He's not coming back.
Speaker 4 (26:58):
By the way, which is a better job LSU or
Penn State ls. Have you seen the national rankings? Eight
teams from the SEC in the top twenty. You know
how hard it is to win at LSU.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
Well, some people are afraid of competition. LSU's got more
players within an hour of drive of that university than
Penn State has in the state.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
Wow, okay, I'll.
Speaker 4 (27:22):
Take Penn State and I'll see in the playoff if
you take LSU and enjoy seven and five and every
other year.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
Ed Orgeron one of Natty at LSU. Nick Saban won
a Natty at LSU. It's less Miles didn't less Miles
one of Natty at LSU. Okay, where all the where
all the trophies up up north?
Speaker 4 (27:45):
The times they have changed the question.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
The question is is LSU a better job than Florida?
Speaker 3 (27:51):
Oh h that's interesting.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
I'm just I would take Florida because I've been to
Gainesville four or five times. I really like Gainesville, the town.
I think Gainesville is the most underrated college now in
the country. And it's not like Gainesville is. It's just
like it's more mainstream. LSU is its own thing, like
it's its own thing, and it's all about fit. I
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think a million people could fit it.
Speaker 4 (28:18):
I think you could win at Penn State instantly, and
you go to LSU Colin every year. The schedule has
like seven landmines. You have to get Joe Burrow at
quarterback if you want to go win.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
Good luck.
Speaker 4 (28:29):
Final story Major League Baseball Colin the fun weekend of
the World Series, Dodgers lost Game one badly. Then they
bounced back thanks to Yamamoto with a classic unbelievable all
nine innings allowed one one on four hits with eight k's.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
Here's your boy. Dave Roberts on his.
Speaker 11 (28:46):
Ass outstanding, uber competitive special. Yeah, he was just locked
in tonight.
Speaker 7 (29:00):
You know.
Speaker 11 (29:00):
It is one of those things he said before the series,
losing is not an option, and he had that look tonight.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
I'm gonna tell you something.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
The Yankees and the Dodgers both bid on Yoshi. So
the Yankee said, we'll give you three hundred million dollars
and the Dodgers said we'll give you three hundred and
thirty five million. I'm gonna make an argument that that
Game two performance and he would pitch I think a
Game six or a Game seven, but that game, okay,
he'd pitch Game six. So that performance and the performance
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against Milwaukee, there's an argument that he paid about half
of that thirty five million dollars total contract on those
two performances. Man, it's amazing to watch his temperament. He
was in total control. Fifth, six, seven, eight, ninth, and
that is a hard lineup. I mean, at that lineup.
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In Game one, they had a nine run inning.
Speaker 4 (29:56):
Okay, I don't know who's more locked in right now,
Yamamoto in the last month or you with blazing five
picks with three straightforward ones.
Speaker 3 (30:05):
I mean, listen, Yamamo. I mean he was lights out.
Speaker 4 (30:07):
Oh Game three tonight on Fox. My Dodgers in five,
still standing, and we got Otani coming up in game four,
so lock it up.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
I think it's gonna I think Toronto's gonna take one
of the next two games. I think the Jay's are
a handful, but they're just I mean, this sport.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
In the end.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
What I think is fascinating is the Yankees and Dodgers
both made they both made an offer, and the Dodgers
upped it. And when you picked the right person in
pro sports, you know, Jerry Jones always had the great
line every time I've been you know, try to get
a bargain. That's exactly what I got. A bargain is
that this guy is top of the market to go
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in to Toronto with that performance.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
I sat and watched every pitch. I was just like, wow, do.
Speaker 4 (30:52):
You remember the consternation from people around the league that
Dodgers gave him?
Speaker 3 (30:56):
How much money?
Speaker 12 (30:57):
What is this guy proven to get that kind of money.
What what some teams know? What was Kirk Shilling at
the top of his game? Verlander at the top of
his game? Kersh Off the top of his game. When
you get the superstar, they make everything around them.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
You don't have to go to the bullpen. The bullpen
gets a night off. Now is totally fresh for game three?
Speaker 3 (31:20):
J Mack with the news.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
Well, that's the news and thanks for stopping by the
Herd Line news Man.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
Looking forward to that Kansas City Chiefs, Dodgers Jays tonight.
This is a really, really good time of the year.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
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Speaker 4 (31:41):
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Speaker 1 (32:00):
Can we just get to the Indiana Ohio State game?
Can we just get to that? I Mean, it's unbelievable
what's happening in Indiana. I mean it really is like
they bring in this older coach. Now one of these fancy,
snazzy hipsters, this older guy from like James Madison, and
he comes in and the first year you're like, well
that's pretty good. Now you're like, what am I watching?
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They're bulldozing. I've watched the first half of UCLA in Indiana,
and I'm like, because I thought Indiana was good.
Speaker 3 (32:29):
I mean that game wasn't competitive.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
That is coaching and personnel, And you all tell me
how great the SEC is. I think Indiana, it's Indiana
better than anybody except Ohio State in the Big Ten.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
And it's Indiana better than everybody in the SEC.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
Texas A and M's pretty good with a pretty interesting quarterback.
But the fact that Indiana now is a football power?
Speaker 3 (32:52):
What what?
Speaker 1 (32:55):
Huh?
Speaker 3 (32:55):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (32:56):
So Aaron Rodgers acknowledged that even though the game was
in Pittsburgh, he had to use a silent count because
there were so many Packer fans at the game, which
is pretty remarkable.
Speaker 3 (33:11):
Two things are true.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
Aaron has been very good for the Steelers offense, and
Green Bay made the smart move going with Jordan Love
over Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 3 (33:21):
They're both true.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
I think Aaron now realizes what we had said before
he went to Pittsburgh. The Jets and the Steelers. It's
the same issues defense. First, one's got better ownership, but
Pittsburgh's got issues too.
Speaker 3 (33:36):
They just have a better infrastructure and ownership.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
But both the Jets Jets feel loose and outdated, and
so do the Steelers. So I think Aaron's doing as
much as a forty one year old quarterback can with
a defensive coach and a team that on fourth and
three either punts or kicksfield goals. They're not a current franchise.
So that's second half Steeler defense. That's why Pittsburgh lost.
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I put none of it, none of it on Aaron Rodgers.
Green Bay almost had three hundred yards in the second half.
So if you look at the three losses for the Steelers,
you know they're giving up thirty plus points, which would
be fine if you had a bunch of rookies or
you weren't spending any money on defense, but Pittsburgh is.
So Aaron has the second most touchdown passes in the league,
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completing sixty eight percent of his throws, one hundred and
four passer rating and sixteen total touchdowns. You would have
taken that a thousand out of a thousand times, if
I told you, where is Aaron after seven or eight weeks?
So Aaron, don't forget this. Aaron's doing all he could
do with the Jets and the Steelers. The Steelers are
just a better franchise, but they were bad fits. That's
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why I kept saying, over and over, just go to Minnesota.
I think Aaron Aaron came out and said, I'll take
ten million bucks. I think Aaron wanted the Vikings. I
think the Vikings wanted Sam Darnald, and once they weren't
willing to pay more money for Daniel Jones or Sam Darnold.
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I think the Vikings had three choices Donald won Jones
to JJ McCarthy three. Aaron was just a fourth choice.
And a lot of that's because Aaron's been prickly and
Aaron sometimes, in my opinion, lacks a little self awareness
considering how smart he is. You bring in Aaron, it
feels like you're bringing in stuff to the locker room.
Although I think he's been great in Pittsburgh, he's been great,
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I am. I think he's been tremendous, but he knows
that he's too smart not to know it. Minnesota is
an offensive culture. The Rams, the Chiefs, the Broncos, now
they're just they're different. So I don't think anything any
of this is on Aaron right now.
Speaker 3 (35:54):
This morning I looked it up. The Steelers have the thirty.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
Second best pass defense in this league, meaning the Dallas
Cowboys pass defense looks at the Steelers and goes, no,
thank you.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
That's embarrassing. We know we are not the Steelers pass defense.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
So and last night Packer fans, Aaron talked about how
many of them showed up.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
Heard that chant for eighteen years.
Speaker 3 (36:23):
So Packer fans travel really well. First time in a
while I've used silent count for a home game. That's
a credit to those Packer fans.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
So it's funny. And I know I'm speaking to some
of you out there. Have you ever taken a job
and you kind of know five or six months into
the job or in Aaron's case, seven or eight games. Yeah,
I wish, I wish, I wish the other one would
have opened up. And I think that's where he's at.
I think Aaron's too smart not to know the truth.
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This is the Jets, but a more polished, refined version
with a better coach. Steelers are the Jets but better? Right,
So Jerry Jones, listen, you watched Micah last night and
you're like, man, did they steal Micah from Dallas?
Speaker 3 (37:15):
No, they didn't. Didn't steal him.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
Cowboys got two first round picks and they don't need
a quarterback, meaning those first round picks next year they
could get another third, fourth, fifth, sixth. When they made
that Micah deal, it was always going to look great
for the Packers for the first six months. Get to April,
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Dallas is going to be in a good space. But
Jerry Jones said he he is skeptical that if Micah
was still a Cowboy, the defense would be great.
Speaker 7 (37:49):
If I saw a proposition for us to help this team, well,
no matter what this score was today, then I would
look at it on the merits. And I'm not trying
to be cute, but that's why you'd go get him,
is that you'd think it could help you defense. One
player we one player away on defense.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
I think we're not.
Speaker 1 (38:11):
I've been critical of Jerry Jones, He's one hundred percent right.
Green Bay didn't steal Micah. They got two first round picks,
and Micah still to this day, has never been a
great playoff Hedge Rusher, I don't steal anything. This has
always been the Shack Kobe deal, and I remember having
a source in the Lakers building. They're like, we love
them both, but if we have to make a choice,
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we know it's gonna look awful for a couple of
years until we get Kobe the right running mate. They
did eventually in dassoul and one two titles, but they
knew initially it was going to look really bad for
the Lakers because Shack was going to a championship ready team.
Once he arrived, the Cowboys know Micah going to Green
Bay is a championship ready team. Dallas is not. The
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three things that matter in this league quarterback won one,
coach two and flexibility three. Dallas had no flexibility. None
could still argue they don't have the right coach. They
got the quarterback, but they had no flexibility. Green Bay
had the right coach and quarterback, and they had flexibility,
so they said we'll take Mike and pay for him.
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Dallas had so little flexibility they couldn't afford Derreck Henry
for eight million dollars two years ago when they had
the worst running back room in the league. I couldn't
afford it. Jerry's a deal maker. Jerry's like I got
my quarterback and I got my star receiver. It's an
offensive league. I'll go find an edge rusher. You know what,
He's right, Go look at this April draft. There's like
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six edge rushers in the first round and Dallas has
two picks, and Dallas doesn't need a quarterback. So Dallas
is gonna go get an edge rusher and probably a
corner with the first two picks, solving two issues. So
Micah to me is Shack when he went to the heat,
It's like, yeah, you gotta eat it dirt sandwich for
a year and a half. You're gonna get crushed by everybody.
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But sometimes you have to make deals as a company
or as a pro sports team, and you know for
a year you're gonna get shelld But you can't sit
on the sidelines.
Speaker 3 (40:12):
You know not, you don't.
Speaker 1 (40:14):
I always say this about college football teams when they
hire coaches.
Speaker 3 (40:17):
Don't worry about winning the press conference. Go get the
damn right coach.
Speaker 1 (40:22):
Stop winning about winning the press conference winning, Now hire
the coach that wins.
Speaker 3 (40:27):
For a decade. That's the key, LSU.
Speaker 1 (40:31):
Don't worry about the press conference the day after, worry
about beating Kirby Smart for ten years.
Speaker 3 (40:37):
Colin right, Colin wrong neck,
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Where Colin was right, where Colin was wrong, There's obviously
plenty of both. And you gotta say the Green Bay
Packers no quarterback. It can be farm it can be Rogers,
it can be Jordan Love. That second half last night.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
Whoo yeah, twenty straight completions.
Speaker 5 (01:14):
Woo.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Let's start with that.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
So I saw a headline this morning, up and coming
Jordan loves Stars as the Packers beat the Steelers. Jordan
Love second half on the road standalone game against maybe
a Hall of Fame coach and a veteran defense that's
as good as second half and that spot as farvn
Rogers had, he is elite arm size, mobility, accuracy. Combine
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that with Matt Lafleur's play design and the green Bay
smart front office. This is going to be a Super
Bowl capable winning team for the next five years minimum.
And last night was very instructive for NFL fans. I
watched a game between the Packers and the Steelers, and
I saw smart and progressive and offensively nimble for one franchise,
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And then I also watched the Steelers. I mean, these
are two franchises going in the opposite direction, with the
opposite ideology. Aaron Rodgers has done a good job to
put some makeup on this organization, but need a facelift.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Two iconic franchises.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
One of them has embraced offense, one as an old quarterback,
one as a young star. One is loaded with young
talent at wide receiver and tight end. The other spends
a fortune on defense. It's revolutionary against the rust Belt.
As Steelers spent all that money on defense, why do
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they tackle so poorly? And for the record, Las Vegas season.
You know who's favored to win the AFC North this morning,
the two and five Baltimore Ravens. You can't fool Vegas.
And you can see it in the Steelers' mentality. First half,
fourth and three, let's kick a field goal. That's not it, man,
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that's not it. The second half by Jordan Love and
Matt LeFleur, all time stuff, sixteen to nineteen, outscore the
Steelers twenty eight to nine, passer rating at one forty eight.
And the Steelers meanwhile dead last and fourth down attempts.
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It's punts and field goals. Mike Tomlin, Pittsburgh stuck in
the wrong era, and it was so instructive to watch
green Bay, little small market green Bay draft and develop
and pay. I mean there, you look at what green
Bay is paying star quarterback Micah Parsons. It's all the
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right stuff, right. There's an offensive lineman making a lot
of money. There's a coach and a quarterback making money.
There's a pass rusher making money. Pittsburgh gets old. It's defense.
Aaron's doing the best job you can to put a
little makeup on the blemishes, but they need a lot
more than that. This was about Jordan Love. This is
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what Green Bay does. Pittsburgh doesn't show the urgency at quarterbacks,
so they end up with.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
A forty one year old quarterback.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Green Bay drafts quarterbacks three years before they need them,
let them develop, and Jordan Love is no longer up
and coming.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
Stop it.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
He's the top six to seven guy in the league.
He has officially arrived as a star quarterback in this league.
And here is Matt Lafleuur after.
Speaker 6 (04:39):
It's great for jan Jordan's worked his off to get here.
You know, he was patient throughout the process, throughout the journey,
and he just he took advantage of the opportunity.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
He's a great teammate.
Speaker 6 (04:55):
He encourages the other guys, he's a hell of a leader,
and he's really grown as a football player.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
Yeah, there's no up and coming about it. That second
half in that space, that defense, that coach, that was
something else. And I said this last year and I've
said it a half a dozen times this year. That
tight end Craft that is a ten year Pro bowler.
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That guy is unbelievable. There's your Travis Kelce. I mean,
that kid is unbelievable. It's amazing where you get these
tight end small schools. Fourth round, George Kittle, fifth round.
That kid is an all time talent. Way to go Packers.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Well well, well, what do you know?
Speaker 1 (05:40):
As the Packers are surging the rival Bears at the
most important position and offense, look a little lost. That
was a bad loss to Baltimore. Lamar Jackson can't play
and the Ravens still controlled the game straight week or
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is it second straight week? Caleb Williams didn't have a touchdown,
So first, Tyler Huntley.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
Deserves a lot of credit.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
The backup quarterback for the Ravens total pro, totally coachable,
very efficient. That kid seventy seven percent completion percentage of
no turnovers, never got the Ravens in trouble. Let's let's
be honest. He was tremendous. He's exactly what a backup
quarterback should be. Let's give that kid credit. Tyler Huntley,
you are a pro. You are exactly what I want
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from a backup. I mean he made every time they
asked him to make a big throw, he did it.
So let's just not blast Caleb. That is what a
backup quarterback is. I may need you twice a year.
Lamar was there high five in him, pro gets the
playoff in time, made three or four big throws, new
when to get down, new when to throw it away.
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That's one of the best backup performances you're gonna see. Now,
let's talk Caleb, because that's what the game was about.
Ben Johnson is a ton and rhythm head coach for
the Bears, Folks, Caleb is not a timing rhythm quarterback.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
It's a weird marriage.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Maybe it lasts, but they're gonna be in therapy for
twenty five years. This thing is going to be a
weird marriage. Caleb. Here's what's worrisome. If you look at Caleb,
he's very good right in the on script in the
first quarter, but in the second through fourth quarters he's
completing fifty eight percent of his throws and it gets worse.
On the opening drive of the game, Caleb Williams this
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year completes eighty one percent of his throws with one
hundred and eleven passer rating. The rest of the game
he completes fifty nine percent with an eighty seven passer rating.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
You take away that opening drive with.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Ben Johnson and I've said you got the right coach,
and it gets ugly. I mean the Bears offense. It's
like that kid when the parents are home. He's fine,
they leave, go to the grocery store, they come back
and the house is burned down. You can't script the
entire game. You gotta be good beyond the first or
second series. You got to be able to do stuff
on your road. And he's dynamic. I think he's a
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nice guy. He's got a big arm. He's obviously on script,
very coachable. But top tier quarterbacks hit the layups, even
the layups look hard. And that interception by Caleb is
a prime example. Caleb saw it one way, that interception,
he saw it one way. Ben Johnson sees this interception
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an entirely different way.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
Listen to this.
Speaker 5 (08:29):
He undercut the path, the route, and I, you know,
I could have let him know farther out in front
instead of trying to give him a shot right here.
And you know that's that's you know, he did it.
He made a great break on the play. Just unfortunate
where we were in a field in the situation.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
Yeah, I have to check it out on film just
one more time.
Speaker 5 (08:47):
Just in my mind, there might have been another option
that we could have gotten gotten to.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
Not good.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
If I would have told you before the game one
of these quarterbacks would complete seventy seven percent of his
throws and have a one hundred and seventeen passer rating,
you probably wouldn't have guessed. The undrafted career backup.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
Not good.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
Again, some marriages need a lot of therapy. And I
think the Bears have to play it out for the
rest of the year and probably next year. And there
is a big arm that throw a DJ Moore. It
could be exciting, It is fun. There are moments he's talented.
I'm not saying that, but the top tier quarterbacks in
this league all have something in common. Twelve yards and
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under the laps Drake May it's it's easy. I mean,
it's just really easy looking some of this stuff is.
It shouldn't be this hard. It shouldn't be this difficult.
We've seen him to open the season. We've seen them
with extra time. It just looks all the time. And again,
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first drive, he's one quarterback, rest of game he's another.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
So he's coachable.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
He listens, but you can't hold a hand, you can't babysit.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
In this league.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
At some point you're gonna have fourteen possessions twelve are
kind of on you. So I've said before, your eyes
don't lie. This is not ideal. I mean, and for
the record, Sean mcvayh chose Jared Goff and he moved
off him. Ben Johnson didn't choose Caleb. I'm not saying
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there's resentment, but this is a timing rhythm coach. It's
not a timing and rhythm quarterback. You can win with
timing and rhythm. You can win Cam Newton got to
a Super Bowl. You can win the other way. I think,
for consistency's sake, you gotta be more timing and rhythm
than just do it yourself. For the record, Jordan Love
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can do the timing and rhythm, but Jordan Love also
sees the field. He does a lot of stuff on
his own. So does Mahomes. I mean, the more I
watch Jordan Love, you know who I see? Patrick Mahomes.
That's what I see. I'm not saying he's Patrick Mahomes.
But when I looked at Andrew Luck, I said five
years ago, I'm like, Sam Darnold is like eighty percent
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of Andrew Luck. He's not as good as Andrew Luck.
But when I watched Darnold come out. I said, it's
like Andrew Luck not as good when I watched Jordan
Love's size movement arm can follow, coaching.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
Can be good. Offscript, I see some.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
Mahomes, some mahomes with Caleb. I don't know exactly what
I see. I don't I don't quite know the timing
and rhythm stuff. It said before, it's hard to quarterback
efficiently in the NFL, but it can't look too hard.
Like marriage isn't easy. But if you're in therapy twice
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a week, it probably isn't gonna work.
Speaker 7 (12:00):
Right.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
So that's where we are today, j Mack. Once again,
here come the Packers surging head it to a Super
Bowl in Chicago's trying to figure out offense.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
You know, I saw an interesting stat that Kyle Hamilton,
the great safety for the Ravens, was in the box
on sixty one percent of snaps. So the Ravens said,
we're gonna take away the run game. Caleb, can you
beat us?
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (12:22):
He couldn't. He could not do it. You take away
the run game. And by the way, I think you're
letting the Bears defense off the hook, Colin. They let
Tyler Huntley get the Ravens of the red zone six times.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
Well, you know what, you know what it is the
Bears defense. It's a little fools goal. Yes, it's a
takeaway defense, right, Okay, so when they take the ball
away they go on a four game winning street. But
when they don't take it away, they give up like
six yards of play. And you saw it time and
time again. Is I mean we got to give credit
to Tyler Huntley. I know he's a backup and he's
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not a star, and he doesn't he's in our business.
We're not going to talk a lot about him. That
is exactly what I want. I'm a backup quarterback. That
was one of the most impressive backup quarterback performances. I mean,
if you didn't know who he was, you'd be like, oh,
that guy's pretty good. You can win playoff games with
that guy.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
I think the Bears were down a few guys in
the secondary, so like things lined.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
Up, the whole league is down Peape. That's the problem.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
You know.
Speaker 4 (13:18):
Listen, my Jets put up five hundred yards of offense
and Garrett Wilson didn't even play.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
It's like, what where did that come from? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (13:25):
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Speaker 1 (14:17):
Welcome back, Colin Right, Colin Wrong, Next Hour. Yes, it's
it's been brought to my attention that I went four
and one with a blazing five for the third week
in a row.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
Let's not brag about it.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
Let's just put our head down and try to get
a five and oh week whatever. So Denver, Dallas, Mike Rabel,
and Sean Payton are proving even if you're saddled with
dead cap money from Hell or an average roster New England,
it doesn't take that long to win in this league.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
It really doesn't. You watch that game. Denver's got a
lot of really good players, and a lot of them
Sean Payton has his fingerprint on Denver's got four different receivers,
won a rookie from Illinois, all long, all run well, all.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
Can catch, and two excellent shifty running backs. For the critics,
the mock draft critics that criticized the RJ. Harvey picking
the second round, Eh, he's good too. Bo Nix is young.
He can uncork ugly ones, but sixteen seventeen yards and under,
he's pretty surgical man, and he's got weapons everywhere. Don't
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put this on DAK. There's nothing DAC could do. There
were guys wide open. They were missing their top three safeties.
That's not an excuse. Their defense isn't good with safeties.
But I've never understood the critics of Sean Payton. The
Saints were a disaster when he got their worst franchise
in the league. They made the playoffs the following year.
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I mean, Denver's got the worst dead cap money situation
in the history.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
Of the league.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
This roster is stacked on guys that Sean Payton said,
get me that guy from a directional school receivers, running backs.
I mean they got JK. Dobbins that cost him a
kitcat bar. They paid nothing. He's now third in the
NFL in rushing.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
JK.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Dobbins, who, for the record, is a great guy. Easy
to root for it because of the injuries. But here
here's the other thing. Pitchburg pays a fortune for defense,
and they can't stop any good quarterbacks. The Denver offense
bottom third of the NFL in payroll. They can't spend
any money on it because of Russell Wilson's contract.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
They're not paying for this offense yet.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
So I mean, I'm just I love bo Nicks, but
this Denver Broncos have Sean Payton written all over it.
And some of these guys, it could have been Bill
Walsh or Jimmy Johnson or Bill Parcells or Mike Vrabel
and McVeigh and Andy Reid and Sean Payton. These guys
can right the ship much faster. The first year. I
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don't care if you're Jimmy or Sean Payton. The first
year can be bumpy. But Sean's one of those rare
guys that knows personnel. You could put him watching film
like a GM.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
He knows it.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
His footprint is all over this roster. It's almost like
in Hollywood. If you watch a movie, I always looked
not at the actors. First thing I always look for
in a movie is who's the director, Scorsese, Spielberg, Christopher Nolan,
the Cohen Brothers. Doesn't mean it's gonna win an Oscar.
It doesn't mean Rabel and Sean Payton gonna win a
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Super Bowl. But you know the movie's good made, smartly constructed, thoughtful.
There's nothing Dallas can do. There's nothing Dak can do
Denver's roster. I said this a couple of years ago
about Indianapolis. Everybody was banging on Chris Vaalor of the GM,
and I said, are you watching the same team?
Speaker 3 (17:45):
I am?
Speaker 1 (17:46):
I said that last year Coltster got players everywhere. They
just have to have a competent quarterback. This Denver roster.
Maybe it's not Philadelphia. Man, they got dudes everywhere. I
mean that receiving core. You can go Courtland's, you can
go Franklin, the kid out of Illinois, you go Mims, Harvey, Dobbins,
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and Bonnicks. Underneath stuff, especially, I think Sean Payton is
coaching them for the playoffs. He is throwing the ball
down the field more because he wants this team to
be able if they go in against the Mahomes or
a Josh Allen or a Herbert and they trail and
they have.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
To play catch up. I'm watching it.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
I feel like Sean Payton has got his eyes way
down on the horizon that he is forcing Bonnicks get
it downfield, throw the ball downfield. But I love the roster,
and I mean, I'm watching that and there's just Dallas
just didn't have the folks. Sean Payton after I wanted to.
Speaker 9 (18:49):
Keeping last you know that we went into the game.
We recognized the injuries. There's a lot of injuries, you know,
on our team throughout the league that was unimportant to us.
I just didn't think they could keep up with what
we were doing. So I had said to the defense periodically,
can you guys keep up with us, And yeah, I
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thought it was a pretty one sided game.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
I know, you know, I mean, Sean is so blunt
and so honest. But there's just certain teams you just
watch them on television and you're like, I mean, how many.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
Receivers do they have?
Speaker 1 (19:31):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (19:31):
Dack did everything he could do.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
But when your trail, big, high altitude, Dallas has never
played well against Denver, you got to go back to
Troy Aikman the last time Dallas. I feel, honestly, it
feels like that's the last time Dallas beat him. Denver's
had their number forever, and yesterday it wasn't particularly close.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
Jmack with the.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
News, No turns, this is the headline news.
Speaker 4 (19:55):
All right, call, Let's start with the Philadelphia Eagles and
Saquon Barkley. He finally he had a good game, peeling
off a sixty five yard touchdown run on the second play.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
From scrimmage, finished with over.
Speaker 4 (20:06):
One hundred yards for the first time of the season rushing. Obviously,
sixty five yard was a big chunk of that, but
he did have one hundred and seventy four total yards
two touchdowns. Now, interestingly, Colin, his backup Tank Biggsby came on,
sae Quon kind of left early with an injury, and
Tank Bigsby went for over one hundred and nine carries.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
I think that's interesting. Just file that away.
Speaker 4 (20:27):
But here is Saquon talking about his best game of
the season.
Speaker 10 (20:31):
A lot of you if I said I didn't, it
wasn't like finally, it's always great to win. It's always
great to be a division viral. You know, for sure,
we definitely saw how they celebrated and you know when
they beat us last time. But I think one of
my favorite things coach Sirianni says is, you know the
verrenge mindset that lasts for five minutes and then it
goes back to your habits.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
Did you notice that it was yards per play total yards?
It was easily the best Eagles offensive performance and AJ
Brown did not play.
Speaker 4 (21:06):
Yeah, well, they tweaked some stuff, Colin. They went heavy,
they went with three tight end sets. Remember McVeigh tweaked
things in London with the Rams.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
Eagles tweaking.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
They went six.
Speaker 4 (21:15):
Offensive linemen a lot in this game, sof new look,
and they just kind of bullied the Giants at the
line of scrimmage. I thought about that. Driving into work
this morning, I'm like, I wonder if Colin's gonna say, hey,
they can trade AJ Brown. Look, they can live without him.
It's just one game. It's the largely dumpster fire Giants.
I don't know that I would make any sweeping conclusions.
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Is Johan Dotson going to be mossing people all season?
Speaker 3 (21:40):
Like that's not happening.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
Bro, come on, I will say this, though you're New England,
you're looking at Kansas City, you know, you're looking at Herbert,
You're looking at Josh Allen, and you got young Drake
May and you're like, well, Vrabel had AJ Brown in
Tennessee at Carushton when he left, and New England's good
and they've got a bunch of good b and number
two and three receivers. Boy, it really helped have a
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physical presence on the perimeter with Drake May, who you're
not paying anything for the next four years, you know,
and you're gonna ship him to the other conference that
if you're Philadelphia, you're like, well, you're not gonna get
to the super Bowl. He's not gonna come back and
burn me because you're not getting through Kansas City and
Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
Probably not.
Speaker 4 (22:21):
But so the counter would be, why would you mess
with the great juju that.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
The Patriots have?
Speaker 7 (22:27):
Right now?
Speaker 4 (22:27):
Everything's kumba ya. There's no alpha like wide Receiver being
a diva. Do you want to bring that into your
locker room?
Speaker 5 (22:34):
Now?
Speaker 4 (22:35):
Your counter, of course is Drabel knows him, he's gonna
fall in line.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
I'm like, that's a little risky.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
But I don't really get no biscuit. I don't think
AJ Brown is a bad guy.
Speaker 4 (22:44):
I've said this about Oh no, no, no, I'm not
saying he's a bad guy.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
No no.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
But I'm saying is there are receivers Stefan Diggs AJ
Brown For a couple of years, no big deal, and
then the drama. I was told a year ago that
there was drama in the locker room. I said it,
and I got a lot of pushback from Eagle fans.
This thing's been happening for a year. But you know,
you win the Super Bowl, everybody's quiet, it's all great.
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Then all of a sudden you have struggles. But it's
not a coincidence. And I remember when Dez Bryant and
Dak Prescott him into the league des is great. Dez
was a touchdown magnet, but in the end they did
not want Dez getting in Dak's headspace. Every time he
went to the sideline, they moved off. Dak flourished. This
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is one of these things. This Jalen is an adult.
He's not going to deal with a drama. He didn't
have any interest. He just wants to win an AJ
Brown And I'm not criticizing him for us.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
He's a Hall of Famer. He wants touches and the
offense is better without him.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Is he a hall I mean hall of Famer.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
I mean he's a Hall of Fame talent. He's a
Hall of Fame.
Speaker 4 (23:48):
I don't agree with that.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
I would agree with that.
Speaker 4 (23:50):
Let's move to college football. Colin not so surprising. Brian
Kelly gets run out of LSU this weekend.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
It's funny.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
I was watching this game Saturday.
Speaker 4 (23:59):
It's eighteen fourteen LSU, and then I start to get
ready for a Halloween party and take a shower and stuff.
I come out and Texas A and M scores like
twenty one in a row, and at that point You're like,
WHOA this is at LSU. Brian Kelly seems to have
lost the locker room, he lost the boosters, and now
he's done Colin. It's over another huge buyout. I think
the number was fifty three million dollars. Was his buyout
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larger than James Franklin.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
I had a coach tell me last year. Had the
coach said, listen, he's mid sixties, that he's a Midwest guy.
He was ready to retire. He sniffed the NFL about
five years ago, and the NFL was not interested. He
was interested. He was kind of done with college. And
then a company comes up called LSU Football and says, yeah,
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here's you know, here's seventy eighty ninety million dollars. And
he goes to his family and says, you know, we
can get that second.
Speaker 4 (24:53):
Vacation home, second, you mean fifth, you know?
Speaker 1 (24:56):
I mean So the reality is this happens a lot
where he'd in a success three different programs. He had
his pensions, he had his money. He sniffed NFL at
Notre Dame. They weren't interested. He was ready to shut
it down, and then LSU came with a bag of money,
and he said went to his family and said, guys,
what do you think? And they're like go for a dad.
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It never felt like I love. I think Brian's a
great coach, but this never felt like a great fit.
He's a Midwestern guy, and I just think I think
he would have fit at Penn State today better than LSU.
I think he'd fit at Wisconsin. But he doesn't feel
like USC. He doesn't feel like LSU. There are Miami,
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there are these jobs that they feel like a certain
personality works. Miami Hurricanes. I think their current coach feels
like the Hurricanes USC LSU. It is very unique part
of the country. I think, I think he's a good coach.
I think he took the job for the wrong reasons,
and the reason was a bag full of.
Speaker 4 (26:01):
Cash with a good football mind, not a great human being.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
Colin I was.
Speaker 4 (26:06):
I know a couple of quarterbacks personally who have friends
with they have experiences with Brian Kelly, and I'm just
telling you he is not the nicest, warmest individual.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
Well, he's not a warm, cuddly guy. Generationally, I don't
I'm not gonna make judgments on him. I just think generationally,
the older coaches are louder, They bark their I mean,
Nick Shaban wins, but.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
Steven's not perceived as a jerk. Okay, he gets a
very animator on the sideline.
Speaker 4 (26:30):
He'll say tough stuff, but he has been loved by
his players. Go talk to some former Brian Kelly players.
The stories are going to start to come out from LSU.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
They don't like him.
Speaker 4 (26:39):
I'm just telling you, he's not a nice guy, Colin.
And when you're not nice and you lose, they're going
to run you out of town. I don't even know
if he surfaces again. Based on what you're saying is
that he was ready to shut it down.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
I think he's ready to golf and hang out. He
could go to a mid major and clean up and dominate.
You know, I don't know that he needs that. He's
got one hundred million in the bank. He's not coming back.
Speaker 4 (26:58):
By the way, which is a better job LSU or
Penn State ls. Have you seen the national rankings? Eight
teams from the SEC in the top twenty. You know
how hard it is to win at LSU.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
Well, some people are afraid of competition. LSU's got more
players within an hour of drive of that university than
Penn State has in the state.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
Wow, okay, I'll.
Speaker 4 (27:22):
Take Penn State and I'll see in the playoff if
you take LSU and enjoy seven and five and every
other year.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
Ed Orgeron one of Natty at LSU. Nick Saban won
a Natty at LSU. It's less Miles didn't less Miles
one of Natty at LSU. Okay, where all the where
all the trophies up up north?
Speaker 4 (27:45):
The times they have changed the question.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
The question is is LSU a better job than Florida?
Speaker 3 (27:51):
Oh h that's interesting.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
I'm just I would take Florida because I've been to
Gainesville four or five times. I really like Gainesville, the town.
I think Gainesville is the most underrated college now in
the country. And it's not like Gainesville is. It's just
like it's more mainstream. LSU is its own thing, like
it's its own thing, and it's all about fit. I
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think a million people could fit it.
Speaker 4 (28:18):
I think you could win at Penn State instantly, and
you go to LSU Colin every year. The schedule has
like seven landmines. You have to get Joe Burrow at
quarterback if you want to go win.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
Good luck.
Speaker 4 (28:29):
Final story Major League Baseball Colin the fun weekend of
the World Series, Dodgers lost Game one badly. Then they
bounced back thanks to Yamamoto with a classic unbelievable all
nine innings allowed one one on four hits with eight k's.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
Here's your boy. Dave Roberts on his.
Speaker 11 (28:46):
Ass outstanding, uber competitive special. Yeah, he was just locked
in tonight.
Speaker 7 (29:00):
You know.
Speaker 11 (29:00):
It is one of those things he said before the series,
losing is not an option, and he had that look tonight.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
I'm gonna tell you something.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
The Yankees and the Dodgers both bid on Yoshi. So
the Yankee said, we'll give you three hundred million dollars
and the Dodgers said we'll give you three hundred and
thirty five million. I'm gonna make an argument that that
Game two performance and he would pitch I think a
Game six or a Game seven, but that game, okay,
he'd pitch Game six. So that performance and the performance
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against Milwaukee, there's an argument that he paid about half
of that thirty five million dollars total contract on those
two performances. Man, it's amazing to watch his temperament. He
was in total control. Fifth, six, seven, eight, ninth, and
that is a hard lineup. I mean, at that lineup.
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In Game one, they had a nine run inning.
Speaker 4 (29:56):
Okay, I don't know who's more locked in right now,
Yamamoto in the last month or you with blazing five
picks with three straightforward ones.
Speaker 3 (30:05):
I mean, listen, Yamamo. I mean he was lights out.
Speaker 4 (30:07):
Oh Game three tonight on Fox. My Dodgers in five,
still standing, and we got Otani coming up in game four,
so lock it up.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
I think it's gonna I think Toronto's gonna take one
of the next two games. I think the Jay's are
a handful, but they're just I mean, this sport.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
In the end.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
What I think is fascinating is the Yankees and Dodgers
both made they both made an offer, and the Dodgers
upped it. And when you picked the right person in
pro sports, you know, Jerry Jones always had the great
line every time I've been you know, try to get
a bargain. That's exactly what I got. A bargain is
that this guy is top of the market to go
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in to Toronto with that performance.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
I sat and watched every pitch. I was just like, wow, do.
Speaker 4 (30:52):
You remember the consternation from people around the league that
Dodgers gave him?
Speaker 3 (30:56):
How much money?
Speaker 12 (30:57):
What is this guy proven to get that kind of money.
What what some teams know? What was Kirk Shilling at
the top of his game? Verlander at the top of
his game? Kersh Off the top of his game. When
you get the superstar, they make everything around them.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
You don't have to go to the bullpen. The bullpen
gets a night off. Now is totally fresh for game three?
Speaker 3 (31:20):
J Mack with the news.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
Well, that's the news and thanks for stopping by the
Herd Line news Man.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
Looking forward to that Kansas City Chiefs, Dodgers Jays tonight.
This is a really, really good time of the year.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
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Speaker 4 (31:41):
Start Saturday strong with the undefeated, top rank Ohio's date
Buckeyes as they face off against rivals Penn State at
the Shoe. It all starts at ten am Eastern with
Big Noon kickoff live from Columbus. Then it's Penn State
Ohio State Big Noon Saturday only on Fox.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
Can we just get to the Indiana Ohio State game?
Can we just get to that? I Mean, it's unbelievable
what's happening in Indiana. I mean it really is like
they bring in this older coach. Now one of these fancy,
snazzy hipsters, this older guy from like James Madison, and
he comes in and the first year you're like, well
that's pretty good. Now you're like, what am I watching?
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They're bulldozing. I've watched the first half of UCLA in Indiana,
and I'm like, because I thought Indiana was good.
Speaker 3 (32:29):
I mean that game wasn't competitive.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
That is coaching and personnel, And you all tell me
how great the SEC is. I think Indiana, it's Indiana
better than anybody except Ohio State in the Big Ten.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
And it's Indiana better than everybody in the SEC.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
Texas A and M's pretty good with a pretty interesting quarterback.
But the fact that Indiana now is a football power?
Speaker 3 (32:52):
What what?
Speaker 1 (32:55):
Huh?
Speaker 3 (32:55):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (32:56):
So Aaron Rodgers acknowledged that even though the game was
in Pittsburgh, he had to use a silent count because
there were so many Packer fans at the game, which
is pretty remarkable.
Speaker 3 (33:11):
Two things are true.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
Aaron has been very good for the Steelers offense, and
Green Bay made the smart move going with Jordan Love
over Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 3 (33:21):
They're both true.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
I think Aaron now realizes what we had said before
he went to Pittsburgh. The Jets and the Steelers. It's
the same issues defense. First, one's got better ownership, but
Pittsburgh's got issues too.
Speaker 3 (33:36):
They just have a better infrastructure and ownership.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
But both the Jets Jets feel loose and outdated, and
so do the Steelers. So I think Aaron's doing as
much as a forty one year old quarterback can with
a defensive coach and a team that on fourth and
three either punts or kicksfield goals. They're not a current franchise.
So that's second half Steeler defense. That's why Pittsburgh lost.
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I put none of it, none of it on Aaron Rodgers.
Green Bay almost had three hundred yards in the second half.
So if you look at the three losses for the Steelers,
you know they're giving up thirty plus points, which would
be fine if you had a bunch of rookies or
you weren't spending any money on defense, but Pittsburgh is.
So Aaron has the second most touchdown passes in the league,
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completing sixty eight percent of his throws, one hundred and
four passer rating and sixteen total touchdowns. You would have
taken that a thousand out of a thousand times, if
I told you, where is Aaron after seven or eight weeks?
So Aaron, don't forget this. Aaron's doing all he could
do with the Jets and the Steelers. The Steelers are
just a better franchise, but they were bad fits. That's
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why I kept saying, over and over, just go to Minnesota.
I think Aaron Aaron came out and said, I'll take
ten million bucks. I think Aaron wanted the Vikings. I
think the Vikings wanted Sam Darnald, and once they weren't
willing to pay more money for Daniel Jones or Sam Darnold.
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I think the Vikings had three choices Donald won Jones
to JJ McCarthy three. Aaron was just a fourth choice.
And a lot of that's because Aaron's been prickly and
Aaron sometimes, in my opinion, lacks a little self awareness
considering how smart he is. You bring in Aaron, it
feels like you're bringing in stuff to the locker room.
Although I think he's been great in Pittsburgh, he's been great,
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I am. I think he's been tremendous, but he knows
that he's too smart not to know it. Minnesota is
an offensive culture. The Rams, the Chiefs, the Broncos, now
they're just they're different. So I don't think anything any
of this is on Aaron right now.
Speaker 3 (35:54):
This morning I looked it up. The Steelers have the thirty.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
Second best pass defense in this league, meaning the Dallas
Cowboys pass defense looks at the Steelers and goes, no,
thank you.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
That's embarrassing. We know we are not the Steelers pass defense.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
So and last night Packer fans, Aaron talked about how
many of them showed up.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
Heard that chant for eighteen years.
Speaker 3 (36:23):
So Packer fans travel really well. First time in a
while I've used silent count for a home game. That's
a credit to those Packer fans.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
So it's funny. And I know I'm speaking to some
of you out there. Have you ever taken a job
and you kind of know five or six months into
the job or in Aaron's case, seven or eight games. Yeah,
I wish, I wish, I wish the other one would
have opened up. And I think that's where he's at.
I think Aaron's too smart not to know the truth.
(36:57):
This is the Jets, but a more polished, refined version
with a better coach. Steelers are the Jets but better? Right,
So Jerry Jones, listen, you watched Micah last night and
you're like, man, did they steal Micah from Dallas?
Speaker 3 (37:15):
No, they didn't. Didn't steal him.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
Cowboys got two first round picks and they don't need
a quarterback, meaning those first round picks next year they
could get another third, fourth, fifth, sixth. When they made
that Micah deal, it was always going to look great
for the Packers for the first six months. Get to April,
(37:39):
Dallas is going to be in a good space. But
Jerry Jones said he he is skeptical that if Micah
was still a Cowboy, the defense would be great.
Speaker 7 (37:49):
If I saw a proposition for us to help this team, well,
no matter what this score was today, then I would
look at it on the merits. And I'm not trying
to be cute, but that's why you'd go get him,
is that you'd think it could help you defense. One
player we one player away on defense.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
I think we're not.
Speaker 1 (38:11):
I've been critical of Jerry Jones, He's one hundred percent right.
Green Bay didn't steal Micah. They got two first round picks,
and Micah still to this day, has never been a
great playoff Hedge Rusher, I don't steal anything. This has
always been the Shack Kobe deal, and I remember having
a source in the Lakers building. They're like, we love
them both, but if we have to make a choice,
(38:33):
we know it's gonna look awful for a couple of
years until we get Kobe the right running mate. They
did eventually in dassoul and one two titles, but they
knew initially it was going to look really bad for
the Lakers because Shack was going to a championship ready team.
Once he arrived, the Cowboys know Micah going to Green
Bay is a championship ready team. Dallas is not. The
(38:57):
three things that matter in this league quarterback won one,
coach two and flexibility three. Dallas had no flexibility. None
could still argue they don't have the right coach. They
got the quarterback, but they had no flexibility. Green Bay
had the right coach and quarterback, and they had flexibility,
so they said we'll take Mike and pay for him.
(39:19):
Dallas had so little flexibility they couldn't afford Derreck Henry
for eight million dollars two years ago when they had
the worst running back room in the league. I couldn't
afford it. Jerry's a deal maker. Jerry's like I got
my quarterback and I got my star receiver. It's an
offensive league. I'll go find an edge rusher. You know what,
He's right, Go look at this April draft. There's like
(39:40):
six edge rushers in the first round and Dallas has
two picks, and Dallas doesn't need a quarterback. So Dallas
is gonna go get an edge rusher and probably a
corner with the first two picks, solving two issues. So
Micah to me is Shack when he went to the heat,
It's like, yeah, you gotta eat it dirt sandwich for
a year and a half. You're gonna get crushed by everybody.
(40:02):
But sometimes you have to make deals as a company
or as a pro sports team, and you know for
a year you're gonna get shelld But you can't sit
on the sidelines.
Speaker 3 (40:12):
You know not, you don't.
Speaker 1 (40:14):
I always say this about college football teams when they
hire coaches.
Speaker 3 (40:17):
Don't worry about winning the press conference. Go get the
damn right coach.
Speaker 1 (40:22):
Stop winning about winning the press conference winning, Now hire
the coach that wins.
Speaker 3 (40:27):
For a decade. That's the key, LSU.
Speaker 1 (40:31):
Don't worry about the press conference the day after, worry
about beating Kirby Smart for ten years.
Speaker 3 (40:37):
Colin right, Colin wrong neck,
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