October 29, 2025 • 40 mins
Colin Cowherd breaks down the Los Angeles Dodgers struggles in the World Series as the Toronto Blue Jays even the series at 2-2. Colin dives into what’s really going wrong for the Dodgers and what it means for their championship hopes
Plus, Colin takes aim at the Pittsburgh Steelers, calling out one of the worst defenses in franchise history and explaining why head coach Mike Tomlin must modernize his coaching philosophy before it’s too late
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Speaker 1 (00:26):
Oh, it is a Wednesday. There is a lot to
talk about. We've got ourselves a real world series. Michael
Jordan hammering current NBA stars. The Steelers are officially broken
and the Chiefs have fixed all their problems. Again, it
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is Wednesday. This is the Herd in Chicago. Wherever you
may be and however you may be listening. Thanks for
making us part of your day. Well, Jmac like the
Dodgers in six and one of the reasons we said
we like the Dodgers in a long series is Toronto
gets bat on ball, so they got a lot of
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power hitters. Their guys are all hitting and the Dodgers
guys are not. And last night was another example, so
we said, going in the Toronto Blue Jays, gut check
win for them. That's why they're in the World Series.
We didn't know if they were going to be on fumes.
They are a big inning team. Nine times in the
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playoffs they've scored four or more runs in an inning.
That's three times more than the Dodgers. And they dropped
a four spot in the seventh inning. So oh, Tani
was fine. He made in the first couple innings, shoe
Hey Otani made Toronto batters look really bad. He mostly
had his stuff. Shoe Hey was sharp, six hittings, gave
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up six hits. He was fine. Now Vlad Guerrero, and
you know this is gonna happen. Vlad Guerrero was eventually
going to break out of it, and he did. Vlad's
hitting four nineteen in the playoffs. So when you hang
one up near his belt, He's gonna do that and
park it at Dodger Stadium. But here's a Dodger dilemma.
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There are six players in the World Series that are
hitting three hundred or better six five or Blue Jays,
Addison Barger hitting four to twenty nine, Vlad hitting four, Bobashett,
Alejandro Kirk, Ernie Clement. I mean, there's sho Hao Tani's
mixed in there. But it is a real problem right now.
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Toronto gets bat on ball, and last night's a prime example.
Dave Roberts had talked about show Hey bringing down the
velocity to see if he could last longer, so he
wasn't quite as dominating, but he left it was two
to one, and one long after that it was six
to one. Because this is what Toronto does. They get
bat on ball, and so you can't ask for everybody
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to throw a complete game. Blake's now goes tonight. But
the bigger issue is Max Months. He's hitting the buck
seventy six, Mookie Betts is hitting a bug fifty eight,
Tommy Edmond great defensive players hitting the buck sixty seven.
So Freddie Freeman and O Tawny are carrying the offense.
They're on fire. Everybody else for the Dodgers is on
sabbatical with a lot of strikeouts, and once again last
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night they stranded eighteen in the other night and one
last night they were zero for five with runners in
scoring position. So you just right now the story of
the series is O Tawny's unbelievable. But the Blue Jays
have five guys hitting over three hundred and a couple
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at four hundred and above, so they're gonna have to
tweak that roster, tweet that lineup, the bullpen again. It's
been spotty, hot and cold. Last night couldn't get outs,
but it was more about Toronto getting guys on driving
runs in. Here's Dave Roberts on his struggling offense.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
We haven't found our rhythm. We haven't. It sort of
draws dead at certain parts of the lineup in different parts,
different innings, different games. You know, guys are competing. Certainly
in the postseason, you're seeing everyone's best. But yeah, you know,
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my hope is we regroup tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Well, good luck Blake Snell goes tonight and then we're
gonna get two games, one minimum in Canada. But last
night was the Jays night and Otani was fine. He
was pretty sharp, but at some point Vlad was going
to break pitch up in the strike zone. He did,
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and the ball got rolling.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
All right.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
So the NFL is pretty cruel when it comes to coaches.
I mean, it feels like Greg Popovich coach forever in
San Antonio, coaching forever. Steve Kerr's got a job as
long as he wants it. But in the NFL, Andy
Reid got fired. Bill Belichick got fired, Cowboys got a
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new owner. Tom Landry got fired. I don't know what
to do with Pittsburgh, Mike Tomlin. The Steelers are broken,
but it's the defense that's broken. The Pittsburgh defense for
the four straight year, is the most expensive in the league. Yesterday,
trade deadline coming up. They got a safety from the
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new England Patriots, Kyle Duggar. That's not going to solve it.
When you watch that green Bay game Sunday night, football, man,
is it apparent green Bay is a very progressive, smart
and current franchise. Aaron Rodgers is keeping them afloat. Actually,
the Steelers are averaging five point four yards of play.
That's good. I looked this morning, top three red zone offense,
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yards per play, red zone turnovers. Aaron rodgers influence has
been really, really impressive. He's having a sneaky year. He's
not throwing the ball deep downfield. Aaron's done his part.
But right now, that defense. You can't pay the most
for something and get lousy production. That's how TV shows
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get canceled. That's the Steelers four straight year highest paid defense,
and they're bad. It's the worst in Tomlin's era. It's
like paying eighty bucks a month for a streaming service
with no hits at some point where they hits. And
I've said this with Aaron Rodgers. He can be divisive
and polarizing. He's actually really good. He's not throwing the
ball down the field. This is not going to be
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Jalen Hurts down the field to Devonte Smith. It's not
going to be Matt Stafford down the field to Puka.
That's not what this offense is. It is. It's not.
This offense is big, large human beings fifteen yards an end,
but red zone. That's a quarterback stat too. They're kind
of good this year. They're kind of good. They don't
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turn the ball over a ton. So what do you
do with Mike Tomlin. I'm not anti defensive coach, but
the really good defensive coaches make an impact immediately. Mike
Frable comes in Patriots twenty second defense. Before Mike got
their fourth this year, Mike McDonald got to Seattle thirtieth
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to fourteenth. Now they're top ten. I mean, the Rams
don't spend anything on their defense. Their second it's cheap labor, right,
so when you have veterans, you're paying them a fortune
and they're awful. Kyle Duggar is not going to be
the answer. So I don't know what you do. It
feels like the Steelers are broken. I've always said I
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judge coaches on their side of the ball. Say what
you want about Lincoln Riley of USC. The offense is fine.
You could argue he's not a head coach, he's not
a culture creator. You'll argue what you want. He gets
his side. I mean, the Rams offense is almost always good.
They can take fifth round Pooka, third round, Cooper Cup
in his prime, four fifth round Kyron Williams, an undrafted
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starting left tackle. Sean McVay is squeezing every bit of
juice out of that Rams offense. Mid low round guys.
He'll make them work. They got a seventh round receivers
already have a touchdown pass this year. But with Mike Tomlin,
he's good at the podium. But I think the franchise
is broken. Here's Mike.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
We all have to own it.
Speaker 5 (08:25):
Certainly, you start with the schematics, man, because you know
that's the leadership component of it. And certainly we'll be
looking at everything that we're doing, man, because some of
these problems are somewhat repetitive, and we're not getting better
fast enough.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
So the story yesterday they brought in traded a draft pick,
they brought in a safety from New England to try
to fix it because they've got injuries, which of course
everybody in the league has, but great brands can usually
pivot faster to get it right. But right now they're broken.
There's a lot going on. You know, Jay Mack, I
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know you love NBA jes see Jannis. Last night, the
honest last night was unbelievable, And you're sitting there watching
that game. And as I watched O Tawni in the
World Series, I watched Giannis and I think it feels
like Otawni with the Angels. You know, Tani was putting
up huge numbers with the Angels. But you're like, wouldn't
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it be great if he kept playing in September late
a team. Yeah. And it's like three first round exits
in a row for Milwaukee and and and the Bucks
have tried, by the way, I mean they they they're
gonna be paying Dame Lillard's salary some of that for
five years, and they've exhausted draft capital. It's not like
Milwaukee didn't win it. Titler hasn't tried, but I've got thoughts.
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I honestly, last night you watched Giannis and it's got
an o TAWNI feel with the Angels. You're like, oh,
I feel bad, but it's time to restock the draft
picks and get some other players.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
You're a mister analogy that that's a good one. I
like it.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
Hey boy, it looked like it last night.
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Speaker 1 (10:36):
Everybody ages differently. A lot of it's genetics. I saw
an interesting number the other day, people that live to
be one hundred actually work out less than people that
die at eighty, meaning the octogenarians. They got good genetics.
That doesn't mean you can't improve the quality of your
life in your last five or six years, if you know,
you take your Omega three and eat your salmon and
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your greens. But pro athletes that are hyper athletic or
depend on that, like a Russell Westbrook or a Cam Newton,
don't age as well. Like the NBA kde age as well.
He's get a bucket guy. Steph will age well, Jokis
will age well, and we'll see. Yannis is fascinating. He's
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gonna be thirty one here in like a week or so.
And there have been trade rumors for years with Yannis,
and my take is he's going to age quickly because
his game is predicated on he can't shoot, he's not
a shooter. It's gonna be predicated on his athletic ability.
And he's still got three or four great years.
Speaker 7 (11:37):
He had.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
He had thirty seven last night they beat the Knicks.
He's unstoppable, shot like seventy five percent, but he's had
injuries and I don't think he'll age particularly well. And
Milwaukee three straight first round exits. That's in the East,
they're a mile They're a borderline playoff team in the
West with the Honis, So that tells you at Giannis
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and everything else, it's got you know, I said this
for years with Mike Trout. I don't care what the
market size is. There are I want to see great
with great, Hanks, Spielberg, DiCaprio, Scorsese, Samuel L. Jackson, Tarantino,
I want great on great. You're seeing it now, Dodgers,
great organization, O Tawny. It feels different. Mahomes Reed. It's
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not a market sized thing. Kevin Garnett was won an
MVP in Minnesota. You remember the Celtics. And that's not
to say that everybody's got to go to a big market.
I love watching the Packers play. It's not a market
sized thing. Great on Great. Milwaukee took some huge swings.
Now they don't have draft capital and they're paying Dame
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salary for five years or part of it, and so
it's like they tried, but they're already viable.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
In the East.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
They are not viable in the East. In the West,
they're probably a seven seed with the honest who is unbelievable.
So they've been a very regular season team, but I
mean last year I think J Mack called it like
one and done, not competitive, got blown out several times
first round. So there have been these rumors. And by
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the way, not all rumors are physical. Some are flirting emotionally.
Giannis is flirting emotionally. There's been a lot of talk
when stuff gets leaked, when somebody wants it leaked. There's
been a lot of stories that I think I read
one of them that there's a direct flight from Newark
to Greece and he wanted to be closer to the
airport or something. I don't know. All I know is
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there's rumors he's unbelievable. I would love to see him
play with ant I would love to see him with
Aman Thompson and KD. He's not going to the Lakers.
They don't have enough to give up. I've said before,
if I was the Warriors, I would give up Kaminga,
I give up Jimmy Butler. I'd give up four first
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round picks. If I had to give up pods, I'd
consider it. Here is Yannis, who was amazing last night
beating the next at home. On the New York trade.
Speaker 8 (14:03):
Rumors, I don't I don't even remember that now. I'm like,
I'm sure, but I was sad in my team and
that's it. We beat the Knicks. I didn't read that article.
I tried to still away from all that rumors and
I don't know. You call it speculations and trade and
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all this, does it concern me? Won't beat that. I
try to involve myself and try to hold my team
win games.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
Yeah, he feels like he needs to be playing in
June and late May and not be a first round
exit guy. I felt, you know, washing him last night.
There's an o TWI feel, you know, stuff that the
Angels couldn't be entertaining. But you need better people hitting
in front of him and behind him in a bigger stage. J.
Macklin news, No turns.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
This is the Herdline news.
Speaker 4 (14:56):
All right, con let's start with some breaking news in
the NFL. Ai didn't hutch It and the Lions have
a new deal. He will become the second highest paid
pass rusher in the NFL, behind Micah Parsons. The deal
comes with one hundred and forty one million and guaranteed
moolah for Aiden Hutchinson that surpasses Micah's one thirty six.
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I mean, that's a little crazy my first thought, Colin. Obviously,
Aiden Hutchinson's great deserves all the money. How are the
Lions affording all these guys? Then keep extending people. I mean,
Jared Goff, you go down the list, well, Amar Ross,
Saint Brown, Montgomery, Jamison Williams, the offensive line.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
The question is because you're they draft so well that
you know Branch they're not paying Jamier Gibbs, they're not paying.
They've got stars they're not paying. So a lot of
it is when you you know Philadelphia has hit. The
Eagles have hit on a lot of their first and
second round picks the last three years. So you end
up having six star players that you're not paying. Yeah, now,
Philadelphia this offseason had to move off people. But I've
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said before you pay a quarterback and you pay a
left tackle, you would you have to pay somebody in
the defensive front. All move off corners, linebackers, safeties, all
move off wide receivers, quarterback, left tackle, and somebody in
that front, Like the Rams are gonna pay Jared Verse,
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he's in year two or three, they're gonna pay him
Hutchison's numbers.
Speaker 4 (16:23):
But Colin, look at the scream. Okay, so that's interesting
about the edge rushers outside take away Michael right because
he just got the deal.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
He's on a new team. TJ.
Speaker 4 (16:31):
Watt and the Steelers are not really a playoff team.
They're not a contender. Miles Garrett isn't arguably the worst
team in the league. He's frustrated, but he's picking up
five sacks in a game.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Didn't Hunter is good?
Speaker 4 (16:42):
But I don't think the Texans are a contender, Max Crosby.
We know the Raiders stink both they got injuries. Hendrickson,
they're not a playoff team. If you pay your edge
rusher top dollar often you're not really a contender. I
mean that's what the numbers are saying on the screen.
So maybe you have a point like he's got to
pay offense and.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Cobble together defense.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
No, I think when I and I've talked to this.
I talked to this with a generer or a manager
right now that's in first place, and he said, listen,
you're going to pay a quarterback in your left tackle,
and you'd love to pay a weapon. You'll have to
pay a weapon eventually, somewhere, he said. On defense, stay young,
fast and as cheap as you can, because defensive players
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get hurt more often. He goes, But if you get
a guy in the front five, a Max Crosbyro Hutchison
or a Miles Garrett, pay them. There is no other
Miles Garrett on the market. I'm not trading him up
on Cleveland. There's just nothing out there like. And it's
like Aaron Donald. Even when the Rams we're in Saint Lewis.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
We disagree there, you wouldn't trade Miles Garrett.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
No, there's nobody on the market like. So, okay, so
you're one in seven. What are we doing well that?
But it's not Miles Garrett's problem.
Speaker 7 (17:48):
He's on you.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
Miles Garrett's not bringing you three four wins.
Speaker 4 (17:51):
To get you respectable to the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
But there's nobody in the world that's as good as
him at that position. You get draft picks thirty percent
of draft picks in the first round fail. I'm not
giving up the world's best blank for a seventy percent
hit rate.
Speaker 4 (18:04):
Well, I thought the cow I thought you liked what
the Cowboys got for Michah Parsons.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
In return, Cowboys were different. Cowboys have their quarterback. Cowboys
are offensively excellent, their defense was bad with Micah. The
Browns defense is excellent because of Miles Garrett. The Cowboys
defense was awful with Micah Parsons. So move him, get flexibility,
and get first round picks. I mean, the Browns already
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have two first round picks. They don't need a third.
I mean what they need is the world's best pass rush.
Speaker 4 (18:35):
Okay, So the Buffalo Bills call the Browns and say, hey,
we'll give you two future ones, and I don't throw
in give us Miles Garrett.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
We think he's the missing pick piece. Do you do it?
If you're the Browns.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
They've already got two ones. That's not their need. Their
need isn't more first round picks. Their need is more
great players. Right now Cleveland, I mean, Dallas's need was flexibility,
and Dallas all so smartly because they have a Cleveland
has to waste those two first round picks, either both
or one on the quarterback. Dallas has that Dallas is
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in a great position. They can take those ones and
move down and get more picks. The Browns are going
to have to use those ones and maybe move up
exhaust both of them to get the right quarterback.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
So it's interesting because this.
Speaker 4 (19:20):
Goes into all to Hutchison for the playoff.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
Game against the Lions.
Speaker 4 (19:23):
You have to scheme against Hutchison. He can wreck your game.
Try Michael Parsons, same deal. Kansas City doesn't have that.
Chris Jones is not that guy of the He's not
as young as those two. The Buffalo Bills right now,
they don't have that guy. I mean, hell, the Baltimore
Ravens don't. You could make an argument that Detroit and
green Bay are the two best teams in the NFL.
The Indianapolis Colts, you know, and I know you reference
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talking to a first place GM maybe it was Chris Ballard.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
Listen, they don't have a defensive player. You got a
scheme four? Do they?
Speaker 1 (19:50):
No?
Speaker 2 (19:50):
No, no, And if I'm aware of no no.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
If I'm Indianapolis, I absolutely would give up a first
round pick for Miles Garrett. So look more than that
because they oh no, no, no. And I like TJ.
But he's not Miles right now, right now, Maya, if
I Indianapolis, I bet you they've called on Miles Garrett.
I bet you Ballard has The question is Cleveland probably
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wants two first round picks and the coach probably want
to give up one, and uh, Cleveland could use another receiver.
We'll give you Pierce, and we'll give you a number
one pick. You give us Miles Garrett, that's probably what
that sounds. I would rather give up Pearson. Anthony Richardson.
The Steelers need a quarterback next year. Anthony Richardson, No, no, no,
GM thinks that's the answer.
Speaker 4 (20:34):
All right, let's move on to Lamar Jackson. It's official.
He's in at quarterback this week for the raven Thursday
night football against Miami. He says every game going forward
is must win.
Speaker 9 (20:48):
Coach pretty much touched on that talking about that with
us in the team meeting. You know, each and every
game gonna be like a win, a go home game.
You know, we started off first season ever start off
like this. We're gonna have to just do it all
right now, east In every week.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
They're gonna go on a run. Baby, They're gonna go
on a run again.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
You could get exotic.
Speaker 4 (21:11):
I think the Ravens are a great teaser leg I
don't see them losing this game. But I don't necessarily
know that they win by eight or more. I mean,
I think this is a get right spot. Would you
agree for Baltimore?
Speaker 1 (21:23):
Well, I think what I saw this past weekend was
a lot of favorites winning big, and I see a
bunch of favorites they're gonna win big again, including Baltimore. Now,
there are some dogs. I like the Commanders on Monday
Night against Seattle geting three and a half. I like
that dog. There are a couple of dogs I like.
But it feels like ja Matt, you and I talked
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about this last year that the NFL last year, for
the first time in my life, felt a little like
the NBA with a bottom like six to seven. Teams
are unwatchable and not very viable after the first six weeks.
First six weeks of the NBA or NFL season, the
bad teams can full right now. I think Chicago Bulls
are fooling people. But eventually you'll go in a five
six game losing street to the lack of personnel, and
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you become kind of unwatchable and not a great team.
Right Yeah. Same in the NFL. This past weekend, you
saw some defenses look like they quit like they just
didn't have dudes. And so trade deadline is a chance
for the good teams to get better and the bad
teams to get worse. Now think about that. That's what
the trade deadline is. The good teams will give you
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capital to get a better player. So you think Tennessee's bad,
Now you think New Orleans isn't good. Now take out
Alvin Kamaras. So the gap between good and not good
in the NFL last year and this year is starting
to feel very NBA and I this weekend, I think
Baltimore cruises tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (22:49):
It's interesting because Miami isn't being talked about as a seller,
but maybe they should be. I guess the problem is
we don't know who the GM or the coach are
going to be next year. I think the Jets are
in that category of really rotten team teams, right, the Bengals.
There's a lot of them, right, It's not great. Final story, coin, Let's.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
Go to the Bears.
Speaker 4 (23:06):
Chicago Bears tough loss to Tyler Huntley in Baltimore. The
offense was not very good and the penalty problem continues.
Ten different players combined to come in eleven penalties. That
was the seventh time in seven games this season, the
Bears had more penalties than their opponent. Ben Johnson talked
about the penalty woes.
Speaker 10 (23:28):
We're on a mission here this week to get this
all cleaned up, and I have complete confidence that will
do that.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
We've talked about it with the players.
Speaker 10 (23:36):
We'll certainly make sure that they understand, especially now that
we lost a game and the penalties were a big
culprit as to why we didn't have the success we
wanted to.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
I think, yeah, no, you know, it's funny. I talked
to a Bears fan. I was just one yesterday. I
talked to one, okay, and he goes, it's very painful
for us quarterbacks, and I said, it's not all bad news.
They're good on the opening drive, Roma Dunzey and Caleb
have a real relationship, and they're getting sacked about half
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as much. It's not doom and gloom. This team is
better than last year offensively. The downside is they're not
necessarily great on third down. They don't complete many passes
like last year, and their operations are clunky with penalties.
But it's I don't know. I look at this game
this weekend. I have gone against the Bears the last
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couple of weekends. I like Chicago at Cincinnati. I like Chicago.
Speaker 4 (24:34):
Do you want to wait for the injury report because
if they don't have guys in the secondary to cover
Chase and Higgins.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
Slacko's gonna torch him.
Speaker 4 (24:41):
But I do agree the Bears offense should I mean
the Jets at five hundred yards.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
The Bears have a better offensive mind.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
To Ben Johnson, this is I think this is going
to be. Also, Chicago was pretty and napt offensively, so
they got to look themselves in the mirror. They're facing
a team with better personnel. They got a better de
fenced in Cincinnati. Cincinnati's home field advantage is not a thing. Irrelevant, Yeah,
it's so. My take is this is a Bears weekend.
Bears win this weekend by a field goal or more.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
Interesting.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
I don't hate it.
Speaker 4 (25:12):
I haven't really considered this game because it's just two
rotten teams.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
Yeah, j Mackle the news.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by the
herd line news.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
So it was interesting. Michael Jordan is part of NBC's
coverage for the NBA Now and he called out load
management load management for the uninitiated. Here is when mostly
star players just decide, I don't want to play, I'm tired.
I don't like it at all. There's things about the
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NBA I love. Have been Washington since the early seventies.
I can't stand load management because I grew up in
a small town three hours from an NBA arena, and
I got to go to a game about every other year,
that's what we could afford. And I wanted to see
Jack Sikma, and I wanted to see downtown Freddie Brown.
And so you're dry. You know you're driving to the
arena and your stars aren't there. So I don't like it,
and there's no data to prove that it works. So
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between the nineties and twenty twenty, we went and looked
the average number of games missed in the nineties by
star players ten a year. It is balloon to twenty
four two and a half times, and there is no
medical benefit. The NBA did studies on it. There is
no medical benefit on sitting. It's all nonsense. So in
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the NBA media, which in my opinion, tends to be
too accommodating to star players, won't press players on it. Now,
Lebron as we show a picture of Lebron, Lebron doesn't
bother me. Lebron's been carrying the league for fifteen years.
It's more than Kawi thing. And what I really think
load management is it's selfish, sort of like what Terry
Rozier did or Damon Jones or Chauncey Billups. It's selfish
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to do that, throw your teammates under a bus to
make ten thousand bucks. The basketball culture is a lot
of me and not a lot of we, and it's
why the NBA is so popular on Instagram. Instagram is
a look at me platform and it's wildly popular for
NBA players. Is it narcissists checking out narcissists? I don't know.
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But Adam Silver admitted we are a highlights league and
what that tells you is the fans are load managing
NBA viewing. You're not going to commit to us, then
we won't commit to watching three hour games. And so
I don't think there's an individual to blame. I mean,
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Greg Popovich was doing this years ago. He didn't like
the NBA schedule and all the back to backs. But
I would say, what the irritating part of load management
to me? Is the All Star break is now longer.
They are almost no back to backs, so the league
has been over backwards to extend the All Star break,
have few back to backs. I'm okay with old guys
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missing games or injury prone guys like mb to miss
a game. Lebron doesn't want to play back to back,
bark they didn't want to play back to back end
of his career. I'll give those guys passes. But young
stars under thirty three, thirty four? What are we doing here?
So I and I and I and I. Here's Adam
Silver recently admitting it's a highlight league.
Speaker 11 (28:24):
There's a huge amount of our content that people can
essentially consume for free. I mean this is very much
a highlights based sport. You know, so you know Instagram, TikTok,
you know Twitter, you name it, any service you know
The New York Times for that matter, To the extent
that your content is not behind a paid firewall, there's
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an enormous amount of content out there. YouTube by another example.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
Well, I would say there's an enormous amount of content everywhere.
But be that as it may. David Stern years ago said,
you know, we're a highlight league, Adam Silver echoed it.
That's not what bothered me. What bothers me is load management.
Think about this. There were several Major League Baseball All Stars.
They play outdoors. You ever been outdoors in Saint Louis
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in the summer, Cincinnati, Kansas City, Cleveland, It's charming. Several
All Stars played one hundred and sixty two of one
hundred and sixty two games. Cal Rawley's a catcher wearing
what twenty pounds of gear? He played one hundred and
fifty nine. Okay, Eleven total NBA players played every game
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last year, none of them stars. So you can do it.
They're just choosing not to. And so Michael Jordan's right,
there's no medical benefit at all. And what you're noticing
is the highest paid stars are the ones that don't
want to play every night. Again, I'll defend Lebron carried
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the league for fifteen years. He's older at you know,
I've said before the two groups of people in the NBA.
I will defend not playing. When you get somebody over
seven feet, the body's not meant to be seven to three.
If a Chet Holmgren comes into the league or a
whimby first couple years. As you're growing and getting strength,
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play fifty five sixty games. Reward the home fans. If
you're gonna punish anybody, punish the road fans. Take care
of the home fans. So I said when Wimby came out,
seven foot four is hard on the body, like like,
let's go. I said it Chet Holmgren fifty five sixty five,
and it maybe tops at seventy two seventy four. It's
just a different body. Big guys get hurt early, they
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get hurt often. I'll defend those young body types early
in their career, and then stars that have carried the
league late. If Steph Curry wants to play seventy two
not eighty two, I'm okay with it. Just reward Warrior fans.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
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Speaker 4 (30:56):
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Speaker 1 (31:12):
So J McK and I have a disagreement.
Speaker 7 (31:14):
So I.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
Like Michael Jordan's belief, which is just play eighty two games,
play hard, give it everything, steak and potatoes every night,
literally cards in the back of the plane.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
Burn bright.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
I think I'd rather have the Marlon Brando career, which
is like seven hits, handful of bombs, not a bunch
of b level hits. I would rather go big shots
and quickly be a legend. Your argument with Michael Jordan
is he should have load managed.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
One hundred thousand percent.
Speaker 4 (31:48):
Colin, he played thirteen seasons with the Bulls, two with
the Wizards. He only played fifteen seasons. Now we could argue,
hey man, maybe he burned too bright. If he didn't
do eighty two games a year for five straight seasons,
we would have had more, Michael Jordan. Lebron's about to
start whenever he gets healthy. Here, you're twenty three. I
think it's smart to play sixty five seventy games a
(32:09):
season and extend your career by I don't know, seven
eight years.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
I mean, Colin, honestly, you.
Speaker 4 (32:14):
Would have want more Michael Jordan if it meant hey man, sorry,
you're not playing in November against the expansion Hornets. You know, sorry,
you're sitting out of February back to back. Like that's
just smarter basketball. We're getting more Steph Curry. Steph Curry's
going to have a longer career, I don't know, by
like four or five years than Michael Jordan.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
Like that's insane.
Speaker 3 (32:36):
You know.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
It's a really interesting because obviously what makes Brady great
isn't sure talent, it's longevity and production over those years.
But when people look at you know, a lot of
people are like, well, Dan Marino or Aaron Rodgers. And
I've always said that Tom was a lot more talented
than people give him credit for. His an elite arm,
elite brain, big strong, drafted by a Major League baseball team.
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Tom was a much better athlete than anybody gave him
credit for. He just wasn't nimble. He grew up in
the pocket world, in the pocket era, and he was
the best pocket quarterback of all time. But it's interesting,
my take is the greatest legend in the history of
the Dodgers is Sandy Kofax. Sandy Kofax had like three
(33:21):
unbelievable years and three other great years. He's the greatest,
I mean in the Dodgers' history. Of all the Dodgers,
Kofax is the ultimate legend. He had a very short career.
I mean, don't even count the Washington years. Basically, Michael
had just two great three year runs. And he's the
biggest basketball legend. If you look at the greatest actors,
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it's not about this catalog of performances. What are your
four best movies? You could even throw in stinkers with Brando.
So I think in the entertainment space, legends are made
on great not extension. They're not made on volume. They're
they're they're built on They're built on what were you
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at your best? O Tawney in the last week has
had two of the greatest games ever by a baseball player.
If Otawni retired at the end of this season, he
would still be called He's the greatest baseball player of
all time.
Speaker 4 (34:17):
That's because we never get to see them age and struggle, right,
I mean, they're they're the great pop culture Marilyn Monroe
is a big time legend. James Dean, these guys we
never got to see them in their forties or fifties.
Bit you know, they're in their prime, and that's how
we remember them all. Anybody remembers is Jordan's prime? Do
they remember the Washington Wizards years? Because by the way,
(34:37):
Lebron's flourishing as an All NBA player in his forties,
and the Tom Brady argument kind of kills that.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
Like Brady played forever. I mean, there's people who think
Brady could suit up now.
Speaker 4 (34:47):
Go out there and get a team into the playoffs
and I don't know, maybe make a run to the
super Bowl, like Lebron is always going to do that.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
And I wish we had more Jordan. I wish he
hadn't quit twice.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
By the way, who's the best running back of all time?
Speaker 2 (35:00):
Probably Barry Sanders right.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
Retired at thirty. Sandy Kofax retired at thirty. Now Kofax
played for twelve years in the Biggs, but he had
like six great years. The best pitcher, the best running
back retired at thirty. So by the way, they got
their pension, they got money, they're still legends, the highlight reel, yeah, everything,
So you know, I I don't know, I just I
(35:22):
love Jordan's brand. Was best basketball player ever. Nobody cares
about the years. I mean, I would argue that there's
Lebron fatigue right now, Like we're all kind of like, Bro,
it's it's it's whatever. I mean, it's.
Speaker 4 (35:39):
Putting them twenty five to five and five or whatever
the numbers are.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
I'm not disputing it, but he's about seventy percent of
what he was. What I don't want to see is
old Lebron. Like this year's team. The owners have already
made the deals. It's Lucas team. Everybody.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
I get that.
Speaker 4 (35:53):
What do you mean you don't want to see old Lebron.
Leonel Messi is thriving in MLS right now. Okay, he
just signed a new deal. But the difference yet, he's
a goal a minute. He's different. He has taken the lead.
I mean, he's the best player. When you see him
on the field, he's still unbelievable. Lebron's not a top
five player. I don't mind that he's playing. He's still
very good. I don't want to see him playing in
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three years.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
I don't. I don't want to see Lebron in three years.
Speaker 7 (36:17):
I like that.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
Now, it's not my decision, go for it. Yeah, I mean,
by the way, I thought there was a very interesting
story in the Athletic today. AJ Brown discussing a relationship
with Jalen Hurts. It's a fascinating article. This thing's not
gonna work. And AJ Brown's identity in this article is
basically getting the football. He admits his words, he's a loaner,
(36:44):
struggles to make friends. His words, well, Jalen Hurts is
a more social animal. AJ Brown is a loaner's it's
oil and water. They're not adversaries. It's just never gonna blend.
AJ Brown is a little like Prince. He's never going
to be part of a band. Remember we are the world.
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He wanted to do his separately, Quincy Jones like, we're
not going to do that. Like some people are solo artists.
And I think AJ Brown is that. I mean I
think he I don't. They'll be a perfect fit with
maybe any quarterback. But when you read this article, I
mean think about the Eagles more than any team in
the league. Are defined by ugly and a collective the
(37:27):
tush push. Ugly is playing football, but it's really team football.
Everybody going in one direction. And there's AJ Brown. Last
week didn't play best offensive performance. So it's interesting when
you read the article, you know he's largely acknowledging he
doesn't make friends easily, you know, his dopamine. The article
(37:51):
says is getting the football in his hands. And it's
a really interesting article, and he is a really odd fit.
It is not you don't have to be an enemy
or an adversary. Some stuff doesn't fit, some personalities don't fit.
Here's Nick Siriani on kind of hope and the AJ
Brown thing works itself out.
Speaker 7 (38:11):
You know, I've almost forgot about what happened a couple
of weeks ago, you know, just working on ways to
get better. I know he wants to do everything he
can do to get back out there. We're excited to
be able to get him back. You can only you
can only judge things out for your interactions and how
they are in the building. And Age has been great
in the building in my interactions. I'm always in communication
(38:32):
with all our guys, you know, obviously Aj as well,
and so looking forward to one to even get back.
Speaker 1 (38:40):
Yeah, it's uh, you know, you have sympathy for him
reading the article, like his words, he's like I have
I have. I don't have difficulty. I love some teammates,
but I don't really make friends. And he's kind of
a loner, and I mean Philadelphia is one of those teams.
It's it's I mean, the GM is the most important person.
It's sort of a I mean when Chip Kelly came
(39:02):
to Philadelphia, he had a winning record and got fired
because Chip was doing things his own way. Chip had
his own identity. He was the guy that changed football,
sped it up. Chip didn't really fit in Philadelphia. He
won in Philadelphia with B level quarterbacks and see quarterbacks.
He didn't fit in Philadelphia. Howie Roseman, Philly guy feels
(39:23):
like Philadelphia. It's very much a collective and AJ is
kind of a loner. So good article, really interesting, well written.
The athletic try it out.
Speaker 4 (39:34):
Colin, can I ask you on AJ Brown real quick?
So he's been in Philadelphia for four seasons. They've been
to two Super Bowls. Yeah, and he's been All Pro
three times. Everybody's I think it's working. Don't you think
that working?
Speaker 1 (39:49):
I think with high maintenance receivers. DK Metcalf was working
in Seattle.
Speaker 4 (39:54):
Well no no, no, no, no no, they didn't get
to know super Bowl no no no.
Speaker 1 (39:57):
When he was highly productive and now he's a Steeler
and Seattle found a new number one who's more of
a team guy. So everybody's got I mean, there's just
doesn't matter what business it is. DK Metcalf was a
great Seahawk and then he wasn't. And then they've got
a new number one guy that is closer in age
to the rest of his offensive teammates. And so you know,
(40:19):
green Bay Aaron Rodgers very effective, green Bay worn out
the welcome. Pat Raleyo has said this coaches had about
ten years. Then the message, you know, it's it's white noise.
Players don't listen. Joel Klass around the corner.
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Speaker 1 (00:26):
Oh, it is a Wednesday. There is a lot to
talk about. We've got ourselves a real world series. Michael
Jordan hammering current NBA stars. The Steelers are officially broken
and the Chiefs have fixed all their problems. Again, it
(00:46):
is Wednesday. This is the Herd in Chicago. Wherever you
may be and however you may be listening. Thanks for
making us part of your day. Well, Jmac like the
Dodgers in six and one of the reasons we said
we like the Dodgers in a long series is Toronto
gets bat on ball, so they got a lot of
(01:08):
power hitters. Their guys are all hitting and the Dodgers
guys are not. And last night was another example, so
we said, going in the Toronto Blue Jays, gut check
win for them. That's why they're in the World Series.
We didn't know if they were going to be on fumes.
They are a big inning team. Nine times in the
(01:29):
playoffs they've scored four or more runs in an inning.
That's three times more than the Dodgers. And they dropped
a four spot in the seventh inning. So oh, Tani
was fine. He made in the first couple innings, shoe
Hey Otani made Toronto batters look really bad. He mostly
had his stuff. Shoe Hey was sharp, six hittings, gave
(01:51):
up six hits. He was fine. Now Vlad Guerrero, and
you know this is gonna happen. Vlad Guerrero was eventually
going to break out of it, and he did. Vlad's
hitting four nineteen in the playoffs. So when you hang
one up near his belt, He's gonna do that and
park it at Dodger Stadium. But here's a Dodger dilemma.
(02:13):
There are six players in the World Series that are
hitting three hundred or better six five or Blue Jays,
Addison Barger hitting four to twenty nine, Vlad hitting four, Bobashett,
Alejandro Kirk, Ernie Clement. I mean, there's sho Hao Tani's
mixed in there. But it is a real problem right now.
(02:35):
Toronto gets bat on ball, and last night's a prime example.
Dave Roberts had talked about show Hey bringing down the
velocity to see if he could last longer, so he
wasn't quite as dominating, but he left it was two
to one, and one long after that it was six
to one. Because this is what Toronto does. They get
bat on ball, and so you can't ask for everybody
(02:58):
to throw a complete game. Blake's now goes tonight. But
the bigger issue is Max Months. He's hitting the buck
seventy six, Mookie Betts is hitting a bug fifty eight,
Tommy Edmond great defensive players hitting the buck sixty seven.
So Freddie Freeman and O Tawny are carrying the offense.
They're on fire. Everybody else for the Dodgers is on
sabbatical with a lot of strikeouts, and once again last
(03:21):
night they stranded eighteen in the other night and one
last night they were zero for five with runners in
scoring position. So you just right now the story of
the series is O Tawny's unbelievable. But the Blue Jays
have five guys hitting over three hundred and a couple
(03:42):
at four hundred and above, so they're gonna have to
tweak that roster, tweet that lineup, the bullpen again. It's
been spotty, hot and cold. Last night couldn't get outs,
but it was more about Toronto getting guys on driving
runs in. Here's Dave Roberts on his struggling offense.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
We haven't found our rhythm. We haven't. It sort of
draws dead at certain parts of the lineup in different parts,
different innings, different games. You know, guys are competing. Certainly
in the postseason, you're seeing everyone's best. But yeah, you know,
(04:24):
my hope is we regroup tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Well, good luck Blake Snell goes tonight and then we're
gonna get two games, one minimum in Canada. But last
night was the Jays night and Otani was fine. He
was pretty sharp, but at some point Vlad was going
to break pitch up in the strike zone. He did,
(04:48):
and the ball got rolling.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
All right.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
So the NFL is pretty cruel when it comes to coaches.
I mean, it feels like Greg Popovich coach forever in
San Antonio, coaching forever. Steve Kerr's got a job as
long as he wants it. But in the NFL, Andy
Reid got fired. Bill Belichick got fired, Cowboys got a
(05:11):
new owner. Tom Landry got fired. I don't know what
to do with Pittsburgh, Mike Tomlin. The Steelers are broken,
but it's the defense that's broken. The Pittsburgh defense for
the four straight year, is the most expensive in the league. Yesterday,
trade deadline coming up. They got a safety from the
(05:32):
new England Patriots, Kyle Duggar. That's not going to solve it.
When you watch that green Bay game Sunday night, football, man,
is it apparent green Bay is a very progressive, smart
and current franchise. Aaron Rodgers is keeping them afloat. Actually,
the Steelers are averaging five point four yards of play.
That's good. I looked this morning, top three red zone offense,
(05:55):
yards per play, red zone turnovers. Aaron rodgers influence has
been really, really impressive. He's having a sneaky year. He's
not throwing the ball deep downfield. Aaron's done his part.
But right now, that defense. You can't pay the most
for something and get lousy production. That's how TV shows
(06:16):
get canceled. That's the Steelers four straight year highest paid defense,
and they're bad. It's the worst in Tomlin's era. It's
like paying eighty bucks a month for a streaming service
with no hits at some point where they hits. And
I've said this with Aaron Rodgers. He can be divisive
and polarizing. He's actually really good. He's not throwing the
ball down the field. This is not going to be
(06:37):
Jalen Hurts down the field to Devonte Smith. It's not
going to be Matt Stafford down the field to Puka.
That's not what this offense is. It is. It's not.
This offense is big, large human beings fifteen yards an end,
but red zone. That's a quarterback stat too. They're kind
of good this year. They're kind of good. They don't
(06:58):
turn the ball over a ton. So what do you
do with Mike Tomlin. I'm not anti defensive coach, but
the really good defensive coaches make an impact immediately. Mike
Frable comes in Patriots twenty second defense. Before Mike got
their fourth this year, Mike McDonald got to Seattle thirtieth
(07:19):
to fourteenth. Now they're top ten. I mean, the Rams
don't spend anything on their defense. Their second it's cheap labor, right,
so when you have veterans, you're paying them a fortune
and they're awful. Kyle Duggar is not going to be
the answer. So I don't know what you do. It
feels like the Steelers are broken. I've always said I
(07:40):
judge coaches on their side of the ball. Say what
you want about Lincoln Riley of USC. The offense is fine.
You could argue he's not a head coach, he's not
a culture creator. You'll argue what you want. He gets
his side. I mean, the Rams offense is almost always good.
They can take fifth round Pooka, third round, Cooper Cup
in his prime, four fifth round Kyron Williams, an undrafted
(08:03):
starting left tackle. Sean McVay is squeezing every bit of
juice out of that Rams offense. Mid low round guys.
He'll make them work. They got a seventh round receivers
already have a touchdown pass this year. But with Mike Tomlin,
he's good at the podium. But I think the franchise
is broken. Here's Mike.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
We all have to own it.
Speaker 5 (08:25):
Certainly, you start with the schematics, man, because you know
that's the leadership component of it. And certainly we'll be
looking at everything that we're doing, man, because some of
these problems are somewhat repetitive, and we're not getting better
fast enough.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
So the story yesterday they brought in traded a draft pick,
they brought in a safety from New England to try
to fix it because they've got injuries, which of course
everybody in the league has, but great brands can usually
pivot faster to get it right. But right now they're broken.
There's a lot going on. You know, Jay Mack, I
(08:57):
know you love NBA jes see Jannis. Last night, the
honest last night was unbelievable, And you're sitting there watching
that game. And as I watched O Tawni in the
World Series, I watched Giannis and I think it feels
like Otawni with the Angels. You know, Tani was putting
up huge numbers with the Angels. But you're like, wouldn't
(09:18):
it be great if he kept playing in September late
a team. Yeah. And it's like three first round exits
in a row for Milwaukee and and and the Bucks
have tried, by the way, I mean they they they're
gonna be paying Dame Lillard's salary some of that for
five years, and they've exhausted draft capital. It's not like
Milwaukee didn't win it. Titler hasn't tried, but I've got thoughts.
(09:41):
I honestly, last night you watched Giannis and it's got
an o TAWNI feel with the Angels. You're like, oh,
I feel bad, but it's time to restock the draft
picks and get some other players.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
You're a mister analogy that that's a good one. I
like it.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
Hey boy, it looked like it last night.
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Speaker 1 (10:36):
Everybody ages differently. A lot of it's genetics. I saw
an interesting number the other day, people that live to
be one hundred actually work out less than people that
die at eighty, meaning the octogenarians. They got good genetics.
That doesn't mean you can't improve the quality of your
life in your last five or six years, if you know,
you take your Omega three and eat your salmon and
(10:57):
your greens. But pro athletes that are hyper athletic or
depend on that, like a Russell Westbrook or a Cam Newton,
don't age as well. Like the NBA kde age as well.
He's get a bucket guy. Steph will age well, Jokis
will age well, and we'll see. Yannis is fascinating. He's
(11:19):
gonna be thirty one here in like a week or so.
And there have been trade rumors for years with Yannis,
and my take is he's going to age quickly because
his game is predicated on he can't shoot, he's not
a shooter. It's gonna be predicated on his athletic ability.
And he's still got three or four great years.
Speaker 7 (11:37):
He had.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
He had thirty seven last night they beat the Knicks.
He's unstoppable, shot like seventy five percent, but he's had
injuries and I don't think he'll age particularly well. And
Milwaukee three straight first round exits. That's in the East,
they're a mile They're a borderline playoff team in the
West with the Honis, So that tells you at Giannis
(12:00):
and everything else, it's got you know, I said this
for years with Mike Trout. I don't care what the
market size is. There are I want to see great
with great, Hanks, Spielberg, DiCaprio, Scorsese, Samuel L. Jackson, Tarantino,
I want great on great. You're seeing it now, Dodgers,
great organization, O Tawny. It feels different. Mahomes Reed. It's
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not a market sized thing. Kevin Garnett was won an
MVP in Minnesota. You remember the Celtics. And that's not
to say that everybody's got to go to a big market.
I love watching the Packers play. It's not a market
sized thing. Great on Great. Milwaukee took some huge swings.
Now they don't have draft capital and they're paying Dame
(12:45):
salary for five years or part of it, and so
it's like they tried, but they're already viable.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
In the East.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
They are not viable in the East. In the West,
they're probably a seven seed with the honest who is unbelievable.
So they've been a very regular season team, but I
mean last year I think J Mack called it like
one and done, not competitive, got blown out several times
first round. So there have been these rumors. And by
(13:12):
the way, not all rumors are physical. Some are flirting emotionally.
Giannis is flirting emotionally. There's been a lot of talk
when stuff gets leaked, when somebody wants it leaked. There's
been a lot of stories that I think I read
one of them that there's a direct flight from Newark
to Greece and he wanted to be closer to the
airport or something. I don't know. All I know is
(13:33):
there's rumors he's unbelievable. I would love to see him
play with ant I would love to see him with
Aman Thompson and KD. He's not going to the Lakers.
They don't have enough to give up. I've said before,
if I was the Warriors, I would give up Kaminga,
I give up Jimmy Butler. I'd give up four first
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round picks. If I had to give up pods, I'd
consider it. Here is Yannis, who was amazing last night
beating the next at home. On the New York trade.
Speaker 8 (14:03):
Rumors, I don't I don't even remember that now. I'm like,
I'm sure, but I was sad in my team and
that's it. We beat the Knicks. I didn't read that article.
I tried to still away from all that rumors and
I don't know. You call it speculations and trade and
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all this, does it concern me? Won't beat that. I
try to involve myself and try to hold my team
win games.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
Yeah, he feels like he needs to be playing in
June and late May and not be a first round
exit guy. I felt, you know, washing him last night.
There's an o TWI feel, you know, stuff that the
Angels couldn't be entertaining. But you need better people hitting
in front of him and behind him in a bigger stage. J.
Macklin news, No turns.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
This is the Herdline news.
Speaker 4 (14:56):
All right, con let's start with some breaking news in
the NFL. Ai didn't hutch It and the Lions have
a new deal. He will become the second highest paid
pass rusher in the NFL, behind Micah Parsons. The deal
comes with one hundred and forty one million and guaranteed
moolah for Aiden Hutchinson that surpasses Micah's one thirty six.
(15:17):
I mean, that's a little crazy my first thought, Colin. Obviously,
Aiden Hutchinson's great deserves all the money. How are the
Lions affording all these guys? Then keep extending people. I mean,
Jared Goff, you go down the list, well, Amar Ross,
Saint Brown, Montgomery, Jamison Williams, the offensive line.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
The question is because you're they draft so well that
you know Branch they're not paying Jamier Gibbs, they're not paying.
They've got stars they're not paying. So a lot of
it is when you you know Philadelphia has hit. The
Eagles have hit on a lot of their first and
second round picks the last three years. So you end
up having six star players that you're not paying. Yeah, now,
Philadelphia this offseason had to move off people. But I've
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said before you pay a quarterback and you pay a
left tackle, you would you have to pay somebody in
the defensive front. All move off corners, linebackers, safeties, all
move off wide receivers, quarterback, left tackle, and somebody in
that front, Like the Rams are gonna pay Jared Verse,
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he's in year two or three, they're gonna pay him
Hutchison's numbers.
Speaker 4 (16:23):
But Colin, look at the scream. Okay, so that's interesting
about the edge rushers outside take away Michael right because
he just got the deal.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
He's on a new team. TJ.
Speaker 4 (16:31):
Watt and the Steelers are not really a playoff team.
They're not a contender. Miles Garrett isn't arguably the worst
team in the league. He's frustrated, but he's picking up
five sacks in a game.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Didn't Hunter is good?
Speaker 4 (16:42):
But I don't think the Texans are a contender, Max Crosby.
We know the Raiders stink both they got injuries. Hendrickson,
they're not a playoff team. If you pay your edge
rusher top dollar often you're not really a contender. I
mean that's what the numbers are saying on the screen.
So maybe you have a point like he's got to
pay offense and.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Cobble together defense.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
No, I think when I and I've talked to this.
I talked to this with a generer or a manager
right now that's in first place, and he said, listen,
you're going to pay a quarterback in your left tackle,
and you'd love to pay a weapon. You'll have to
pay a weapon eventually, somewhere, he said. On defense, stay young,
fast and as cheap as you can, because defensive players
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get hurt more often. He goes, But if you get
a guy in the front five, a Max Crosbyro Hutchison
or a Miles Garrett, pay them. There is no other
Miles Garrett on the market. I'm not trading him up
on Cleveland. There's just nothing out there like. And it's
like Aaron Donald. Even when the Rams we're in Saint Lewis.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
We disagree there, you wouldn't trade Miles Garrett.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
No, there's nobody on the market like. So, okay, so
you're one in seven. What are we doing well that?
But it's not Miles Garrett's problem.
Speaker 7 (17:48):
He's on you.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
Miles Garrett's not bringing you three four wins.
Speaker 4 (17:51):
To get you respectable to the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
But there's nobody in the world that's as good as
him at that position. You get draft picks thirty percent
of draft picks in the first round fail. I'm not
giving up the world's best blank for a seventy percent
hit rate.
Speaker 4 (18:04):
Well, I thought the cow I thought you liked what
the Cowboys got for Michah Parsons.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
In return, Cowboys were different. Cowboys have their quarterback. Cowboys
are offensively excellent, their defense was bad with Micah. The
Browns defense is excellent because of Miles Garrett. The Cowboys
defense was awful with Micah Parsons. So move him, get flexibility,
and get first round picks. I mean, the Browns already
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have two first round picks. They don't need a third.
I mean what they need is the world's best pass rush.
Speaker 4 (18:35):
Okay, So the Buffalo Bills call the Browns and say, hey,
we'll give you two future ones, and I don't throw
in give us Miles Garrett.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
We think he's the missing pick piece. Do you do it?
If you're the Browns.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
They've already got two ones. That's not their need. Their
need isn't more first round picks. Their need is more
great players. Right now Cleveland, I mean, Dallas's need was flexibility,
and Dallas all so smartly because they have a Cleveland
has to waste those two first round picks, either both
or one on the quarterback. Dallas has that Dallas is
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in a great position. They can take those ones and
move down and get more picks. The Browns are going
to have to use those ones and maybe move up
exhaust both of them to get the right quarterback.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
So it's interesting because this.
Speaker 4 (19:20):
Goes into all to Hutchison for the playoff.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
Game against the Lions.
Speaker 4 (19:23):
You have to scheme against Hutchison. He can wreck your game.
Try Michael Parsons, same deal. Kansas City doesn't have that.
Chris Jones is not that guy of the He's not
as young as those two. The Buffalo Bills right now,
they don't have that guy. I mean, hell, the Baltimore
Ravens don't. You could make an argument that Detroit and
green Bay are the two best teams in the NFL.
The Indianapolis Colts, you know, and I know you reference
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talking to a first place GM maybe it was Chris Ballard.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
Listen, they don't have a defensive player. You got a
scheme four? Do they?
Speaker 1 (19:50):
No?
Speaker 2 (19:50):
No, no, And if I'm aware of no no.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
If I'm Indianapolis, I absolutely would give up a first
round pick for Miles Garrett. So look more than that
because they oh no, no, no. And I like TJ.
But he's not Miles right now, right now, Maya, if
I Indianapolis, I bet you they've called on Miles Garrett.
I bet you Ballard has The question is Cleveland probably
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wants two first round picks and the coach probably want
to give up one, and uh, Cleveland could use another receiver.
We'll give you Pierce, and we'll give you a number
one pick. You give us Miles Garrett, that's probably what
that sounds. I would rather give up Pearson. Anthony Richardson.
The Steelers need a quarterback next year. Anthony Richardson, No, no, no,
GM thinks that's the answer.
Speaker 4 (20:34):
All right, let's move on to Lamar Jackson. It's official.
He's in at quarterback this week for the raven Thursday
night football against Miami. He says every game going forward
is must win.
Speaker 9 (20:48):
Coach pretty much touched on that talking about that with
us in the team meeting. You know, each and every
game gonna be like a win, a go home game.
You know, we started off first season ever start off
like this. We're gonna have to just do it all
right now, east In every week.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
They're gonna go on a run. Baby, They're gonna go
on a run again.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
You could get exotic.
Speaker 4 (21:11):
I think the Ravens are a great teaser leg I
don't see them losing this game. But I don't necessarily
know that they win by eight or more. I mean,
I think this is a get right spot. Would you
agree for Baltimore?
Speaker 1 (21:23):
Well, I think what I saw this past weekend was
a lot of favorites winning big, and I see a
bunch of favorites they're gonna win big again, including Baltimore. Now,
there are some dogs. I like the Commanders on Monday
Night against Seattle geting three and a half. I like
that dog. There are a couple of dogs I like.
But it feels like ja Matt, you and I talked
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about this last year that the NFL last year, for
the first time in my life, felt a little like
the NBA with a bottom like six to seven. Teams
are unwatchable and not very viable after the first six weeks.
First six weeks of the NBA or NFL season, the
bad teams can full right now. I think Chicago Bulls
are fooling people. But eventually you'll go in a five
six game losing street to the lack of personnel, and
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you become kind of unwatchable and not a great team.
Right Yeah. Same in the NFL. This past weekend, you
saw some defenses look like they quit like they just
didn't have dudes. And so trade deadline is a chance
for the good teams to get better and the bad
teams to get worse. Now think about that. That's what
the trade deadline is. The good teams will give you
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capital to get a better player. So you think Tennessee's bad,
Now you think New Orleans isn't good. Now take out
Alvin Kamaras. So the gap between good and not good
in the NFL last year and this year is starting
to feel very NBA and I this weekend, I think
Baltimore cruises tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (22:49):
It's interesting because Miami isn't being talked about as a seller,
but maybe they should be. I guess the problem is
we don't know who the GM or the coach are
going to be next year. I think the Jets are
in that category of really rotten team teams, right, the Bengals.
There's a lot of them, right, It's not great. Final story, coin, Let's.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
Go to the Bears.
Speaker 4 (23:06):
Chicago Bears tough loss to Tyler Huntley in Baltimore. The
offense was not very good and the penalty problem continues.
Ten different players combined to come in eleven penalties. That
was the seventh time in seven games this season, the
Bears had more penalties than their opponent. Ben Johnson talked
about the penalty woes.
Speaker 10 (23:28):
We're on a mission here this week to get this
all cleaned up, and I have complete confidence that will
do that.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
We've talked about it with the players.
Speaker 10 (23:36):
We'll certainly make sure that they understand, especially now that
we lost a game and the penalties were a big
culprit as to why we didn't have the success we
wanted to.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
I think, yeah, no, you know, it's funny. I talked
to a Bears fan. I was just one yesterday. I
talked to one, okay, and he goes, it's very painful
for us quarterbacks, and I said, it's not all bad news.
They're good on the opening drive, Roma Dunzey and Caleb
have a real relationship, and they're getting sacked about half
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as much. It's not doom and gloom. This team is
better than last year offensively. The downside is they're not
necessarily great on third down. They don't complete many passes
like last year, and their operations are clunky with penalties.
But it's I don't know. I look at this game
this weekend. I have gone against the Bears the last
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couple of weekends. I like Chicago at Cincinnati. I like Chicago.
Speaker 4 (24:34):
Do you want to wait for the injury report because
if they don't have guys in the secondary to cover
Chase and Higgins.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
Slacko's gonna torch him.
Speaker 4 (24:41):
But I do agree the Bears offense should I mean
the Jets at five hundred yards.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
The Bears have a better offensive mind.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
To Ben Johnson, this is I think this is going
to be. Also, Chicago was pretty and napt offensively, so
they got to look themselves in the mirror. They're facing
a team with better personnel. They got a better de
fenced in Cincinnati. Cincinnati's home field advantage is not a thing. Irrelevant, Yeah,
it's so. My take is this is a Bears weekend.
Bears win this weekend by a field goal or more.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
Interesting.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
I don't hate it.
Speaker 4 (25:12):
I haven't really considered this game because it's just two
rotten teams.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
Yeah, j Mackle the news.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by the
herd line news.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
So it was interesting. Michael Jordan is part of NBC's
coverage for the NBA Now and he called out load
management load management for the uninitiated. Here is when mostly
star players just decide, I don't want to play, I'm tired.
I don't like it at all. There's things about the
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NBA I love. Have been Washington since the early seventies.
I can't stand load management because I grew up in
a small town three hours from an NBA arena, and
I got to go to a game about every other year,
that's what we could afford. And I wanted to see
Jack Sikma, and I wanted to see downtown Freddie Brown.
And so you're dry. You know you're driving to the
arena and your stars aren't there. So I don't like it,
and there's no data to prove that it works. So
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between the nineties and twenty twenty, we went and looked
the average number of games missed in the nineties by
star players ten a year. It is balloon to twenty
four two and a half times, and there is no
medical benefit. The NBA did studies on it. There is
no medical benefit on sitting. It's all nonsense. So in
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the NBA media, which in my opinion, tends to be
too accommodating to star players, won't press players on it. Now,
Lebron as we show a picture of Lebron, Lebron doesn't
bother me. Lebron's been carrying the league for fifteen years.
It's more than Kawi thing. And what I really think
load management is it's selfish, sort of like what Terry
Rozier did or Damon Jones or Chauncey Billups. It's selfish
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to do that, throw your teammates under a bus to
make ten thousand bucks. The basketball culture is a lot
of me and not a lot of we, and it's
why the NBA is so popular on Instagram. Instagram is
a look at me platform and it's wildly popular for
NBA players. Is it narcissists checking out narcissists? I don't know.
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But Adam Silver admitted we are a highlights league and
what that tells you is the fans are load managing
NBA viewing. You're not going to commit to us, then
we won't commit to watching three hour games. And so
I don't think there's an individual to blame. I mean,
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Greg Popovich was doing this years ago. He didn't like
the NBA schedule and all the back to backs. But
I would say, what the irritating part of load management
to me? Is the All Star break is now longer.
They are almost no back to backs, so the league
has been over backwards to extend the All Star break,
have few back to backs. I'm okay with old guys
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missing games or injury prone guys like mb to miss
a game. Lebron doesn't want to play back to back,
bark they didn't want to play back to back end
of his career. I'll give those guys passes. But young
stars under thirty three, thirty four? What are we doing here?
So I and I and I and I. Here's Adam
Silver recently admitting it's a highlight league.
Speaker 11 (28:24):
There's a huge amount of our content that people can
essentially consume for free. I mean this is very much
a highlights based sport. You know, so you know Instagram, TikTok,
you know Twitter, you name it, any service you know
The New York Times for that matter, To the extent
that your content is not behind a paid firewall, there's
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an enormous amount of content out there. YouTube by another example.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
Well, I would say there's an enormous amount of content everywhere.
But be that as it may. David Stern years ago said,
you know, we're a highlight league, Adam Silver echoed it.
That's not what bothered me. What bothers me is load management.
Think about this. There were several Major League Baseball All Stars.
They play outdoors. You ever been outdoors in Saint Louis
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in the summer, Cincinnati, Kansas City, Cleveland, It's charming. Several
All Stars played one hundred and sixty two of one
hundred and sixty two games. Cal Rawley's a catcher wearing
what twenty pounds of gear? He played one hundred and
fifty nine. Okay, Eleven total NBA players played every game
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last year, none of them stars. So you can do it.
They're just choosing not to. And so Michael Jordan's right,
there's no medical benefit at all. And what you're noticing
is the highest paid stars are the ones that don't
want to play every night. Again, I'll defend Lebron carried
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the league for fifteen years. He's older at you know,
I've said before the two groups of people in the NBA.
I will defend not playing. When you get somebody over
seven feet, the body's not meant to be seven to three.
If a Chet Holmgren comes into the league or a
whimby first couple years. As you're growing and getting strength,
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play fifty five sixty games. Reward the home fans. If
you're gonna punish anybody, punish the road fans. Take care
of the home fans. So I said when Wimby came out,
seven foot four is hard on the body, like like,
let's go. I said it Chet Holmgren fifty five sixty five,
and it maybe tops at seventy two seventy four. It's
just a different body. Big guys get hurt early, they
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get hurt often. I'll defend those young body types early
in their career, and then stars that have carried the
league late. If Steph Curry wants to play seventy two
not eighty two, I'm okay with it. Just reward Warrior fans.
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Speaker 4 (30:56):
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Speaker 1 (31:12):
So J McK and I have a disagreement.
Speaker 7 (31:14):
So I.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
Like Michael Jordan's belief, which is just play eighty two games,
play hard, give it everything, steak and potatoes every night,
literally cards in the back of the plane.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
Burn bright.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
I think I'd rather have the Marlon Brando career, which
is like seven hits, handful of bombs, not a bunch
of b level hits. I would rather go big shots
and quickly be a legend. Your argument with Michael Jordan
is he should have load managed.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
One hundred thousand percent.
Speaker 4 (31:48):
Colin, he played thirteen seasons with the Bulls, two with
the Wizards. He only played fifteen seasons. Now we could argue,
hey man, maybe he burned too bright. If he didn't
do eighty two games a year for five straight seasons,
we would have had more, Michael Jordan. Lebron's about to
start whenever he gets healthy. Here, you're twenty three. I
think it's smart to play sixty five seventy games a
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season and extend your career by I don't know, seven
eight years.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
I mean, Colin, honestly, you.
Speaker 4 (32:14):
Would have want more Michael Jordan if it meant hey man, sorry,
you're not playing in November against the expansion Hornets. You know, sorry,
you're sitting out of February back to back. Like that's
just smarter basketball. We're getting more Steph Curry. Steph Curry's
going to have a longer career, I don't know, by
like four or five years than Michael Jordan.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
Like that's insane.
Speaker 3 (32:36):
You know.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
It's a really interesting because obviously what makes Brady great
isn't sure talent, it's longevity and production over those years.
But when people look at you know, a lot of
people are like, well, Dan Marino or Aaron Rodgers. And
I've always said that Tom was a lot more talented
than people give him credit for. His an elite arm,
elite brain, big strong, drafted by a Major League baseball team.
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Tom was a much better athlete than anybody gave him
credit for. He just wasn't nimble. He grew up in
the pocket world, in the pocket era, and he was
the best pocket quarterback of all time. But it's interesting,
my take is the greatest legend in the history of
the Dodgers is Sandy Kofax. Sandy Kofax had like three
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unbelievable years and three other great years. He's the greatest,
I mean in the Dodgers' history. Of all the Dodgers,
Kofax is the ultimate legend. He had a very short career.
I mean, don't even count the Washington years. Basically, Michael
had just two great three year runs. And he's the
biggest basketball legend. If you look at the greatest actors,
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it's not about this catalog of performances. What are your
four best movies? You could even throw in stinkers with Brando.
So I think in the entertainment space, legends are made
on great not extension. They're not made on volume. They're
they're they're built on They're built on what were you
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at your best? O Tawney in the last week has
had two of the greatest games ever by a baseball player.
If Otawni retired at the end of this season, he
would still be called He's the greatest baseball player of
all time.
Speaker 4 (34:17):
That's because we never get to see them age and struggle, right,
I mean, they're they're the great pop culture Marilyn Monroe
is a big time legend. James Dean, these guys we
never got to see them in their forties or fifties.
Bit you know, they're in their prime, and that's how
we remember them all. Anybody remembers is Jordan's prime? Do
they remember the Washington Wizards years? Because by the way,
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Lebron's flourishing as an All NBA player in his forties,
and the Tom Brady argument kind of kills that.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
Like Brady played forever. I mean, there's people who think
Brady could suit up now.
Speaker 4 (34:47):
Go out there and get a team into the playoffs
and I don't know, maybe make a run to the
super Bowl, like Lebron is always going to do that.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
And I wish we had more Jordan. I wish he
hadn't quit twice.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
By the way, who's the best running back of all time?
Speaker 2 (35:00):
Probably Barry Sanders right.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
Retired at thirty. Sandy Kofax retired at thirty. Now Kofax
played for twelve years in the Biggs, but he had
like six great years. The best pitcher, the best running
back retired at thirty. So by the way, they got
their pension, they got money, they're still legends, the highlight reel, yeah, everything,
So you know, I I don't know, I just I
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love Jordan's brand. Was best basketball player ever. Nobody cares
about the years. I mean, I would argue that there's
Lebron fatigue right now, Like we're all kind of like, Bro,
it's it's it's whatever. I mean, it's.
Speaker 4 (35:39):
Putting them twenty five to five and five or whatever
the numbers are.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
I'm not disputing it, but he's about seventy percent of
what he was. What I don't want to see is
old Lebron. Like this year's team. The owners have already
made the deals. It's Lucas team. Everybody.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
I get that.
Speaker 4 (35:53):
What do you mean you don't want to see old Lebron.
Leonel Messi is thriving in MLS right now. Okay, he
just signed a new deal. But the difference yet, he's
a goal a minute. He's different. He has taken the lead.
I mean, he's the best player. When you see him
on the field, he's still unbelievable. Lebron's not a top
five player. I don't mind that he's playing. He's still
very good. I don't want to see him playing in
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three years.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
I don't. I don't want to see Lebron in three years.
Speaker 7 (36:17):
I like that.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
Now, it's not my decision, go for it. Yeah, I mean,
by the way, I thought there was a very interesting
story in the Athletic today. AJ Brown discussing a relationship
with Jalen Hurts. It's a fascinating article. This thing's not
gonna work. And AJ Brown's identity in this article is
basically getting the football. He admits his words, he's a loaner,
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struggles to make friends. His words, well, Jalen Hurts is
a more social animal. AJ Brown is a loaner's it's
oil and water. They're not adversaries. It's just never gonna blend.
AJ Brown is a little like Prince. He's never going
to be part of a band. Remember we are the world.
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He wanted to do his separately, Quincy Jones like, we're
not going to do that. Like some people are solo artists.
And I think AJ Brown is that. I mean I
think he I don't. They'll be a perfect fit with
maybe any quarterback. But when you read this article, I
mean think about the Eagles more than any team in
the league. Are defined by ugly and a collective the
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tush push. Ugly is playing football, but it's really team football.
Everybody going in one direction. And there's AJ Brown. Last
week didn't play best offensive performance. So it's interesting when
you read the article, you know he's largely acknowledging he
doesn't make friends easily, you know, his dopamine. The article
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says is getting the football in his hands. And it's
a really interesting article, and he is a really odd fit.
It is not you don't have to be an enemy
or an adversary. Some stuff doesn't fit, some personalities don't fit.
Here's Nick Siriani on kind of hope and the AJ
Brown thing works itself out.
Speaker 7 (38:11):
You know, I've almost forgot about what happened a couple
of weeks ago, you know, just working on ways to
get better. I know he wants to do everything he
can do to get back out there. We're excited to
be able to get him back. You can only you
can only judge things out for your interactions and how
they are in the building. And Age has been great
in the building in my interactions. I'm always in communication
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with all our guys, you know, obviously Aj as well,
and so looking forward to one to even get back.
Speaker 1 (38:40):
Yeah, it's uh, you know, you have sympathy for him
reading the article, like his words, he's like I have
I have. I don't have difficulty. I love some teammates,
but I don't really make friends. And he's kind of
a loner, and I mean Philadelphia is one of those teams.
It's it's I mean, the GM is the most important person.
It's sort of a I mean when Chip Kelly came
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to Philadelphia, he had a winning record and got fired
because Chip was doing things his own way. Chip had
his own identity. He was the guy that changed football,
sped it up. Chip didn't really fit in Philadelphia. He
won in Philadelphia with B level quarterbacks and see quarterbacks.
He didn't fit in Philadelphia. Howie Roseman, Philly guy feels
(39:23):
like Philadelphia. It's very much a collective and AJ is
kind of a loner. So good article, really interesting, well written.
The athletic try it out.
Speaker 4 (39:34):
Colin, can I ask you on AJ Brown real quick?
So he's been in Philadelphia for four seasons. They've been
to two Super Bowls. Yeah, and he's been All Pro
three times. Everybody's I think it's working. Don't you think
that working?
Speaker 1 (39:49):
I think with high maintenance receivers. DK Metcalf was working
in Seattle.
Speaker 4 (39:54):
Well no no, no, no, no no, they didn't get
to know super Bowl no no no.
Speaker 1 (39:57):
When he was highly productive and now he's a Steeler
and Seattle found a new number one who's more of
a team guy. So everybody's got I mean, there's just
doesn't matter what business it is. DK Metcalf was a
great Seahawk and then he wasn't. And then they've got
a new number one guy that is closer in age
to the rest of his offensive teammates. And so you know,
(40:19):
green Bay Aaron Rodgers very effective, green Bay worn out
the welcome. Pat Raleyo has said this coaches had about
ten years. Then the message, you know, it's it's white noise.
Players don't listen. Joel Klass around the corner.
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