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October 31, 2025 40 mins

After Baltimore's resounding Thursday Night Football win over the Dolphins in Miami, Colin can see there is change on the horizon for the Dolphins and he has the perfect candidate to coach the Dolphins. Also, Colin looks ahead to the juicy AFC matchup of Chiefs-Bills. Plus, something's rotten with the Minnesota Vikings. Finally, Colin examines the top ten players in the Chiefs-Bills matchup on Sunday. 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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(00:24):
is Halloween. We are love. We're in Chicago. It's the Herd.
Wherever you may be, however you may be listening. Thanks
for making us part of your day. Breaking news, we'll
get to that in about thirty seconds. In the NFL,
it is Halloween. Jmack is going as Austin Reeve. I

(00:48):
Am going as America's honesty broker. That's where we are
on a Friday. So we've got breaking news, Jmack. Last night,
the Ravens stump to Miami Dolphins. Who cares? We knew
they were going to do that. This morning, the Dolphins
started the rebuild. This is smart. It's a three step process.

(01:08):
Number one, they just fired Chris Greer, the GM smart.
They also announced they're going to keep Mike McDaniel for
the rest of the year. Very smart. Don't put an
interim guy in who reels off four or five wins
and everybody goes, I'll hire the interim Okay, don't do that.
You know what Miami's gotta do next, Go hire Lane Kiffin.

(01:30):
Everything about Miami's empty calories last night, time of possession, yards,
first downs, Miami as many as Baltimore, and they got
blown out. They got no alpha, they got no culture.
Mike McDaniel's a great offensive coach. Eh, come on, I'll
get the two of later. Here's why you go hire
Lane Kiffin. Number one offense in college football last several years.

(01:55):
Half the SEC quarterbacks this year, all that first round
draft quarter everybody's talking about what a great quarterback draft
it's going to be. For the eight best quarterbacks are
from the SEC. Lane recruited them, Lane faced them, Lane's
looked at film of them. Nobody knows the SEC quarterbacks
better than the current best offensive coach. So you get

(02:18):
all the Mike McDaniel innovation, but you get an alpha.
He played the position. He's a guys guy. He's got
an attitude. That's what Miami lacks. They got a smart
guy in the building. They got no culture, they got
nothing they're flimsy. It's empty calories. Last night, you look
at the yards, you look at a lot of the

(02:39):
box score, You're like, that must have been a close game,
and just all empty calories. And by the way, for
college coaches now, it used to be college looked one way,
the NFL looked another way. But now college coaches like Kiffin,
they have free agency. It's called the transfer portal. They
pay the players. So Lane Kiffin and Ole Miss doesn't

(03:02):
have a great football program, they're good with Kiffin. They've
led college football on offense. The NFL is an offensive league.
He has been a CEO because in the NFL you
want your coach to be a CEO. Everybody's always like,
get the GM first than the coach. Ah nonsense. Chargers
got hardball first. A week later they hire the GM.
Go get Lane Keifvin. At the end of the year,

(03:22):
Kiffin can keep bouncing around Florida, lsu O Miss. It's
college football. Take a big swing, Lane Kiffen, take a
big swing. College coaches like hardball. They are CEOs. They
got the transfer Bortal, the ni L. It's all different now.
It used to be college coach. He went to high
schools Belichick now coaches college. He just write a check

(03:45):
to get guys. So college and NFL is much more
similar in style. This isn't about TUA and that ship
is sailed. They got a cleanhouse. I would move off
to I would move off the coach. I would move
off the GM. Do not put an interim coach in there.
Do not do it. Because the guy reels off five

(04:06):
out of six wins. Then everybody in Miami he's like,
oh my god, that's other Raiders. You know, Antonio Pierce,
you get hot, you win a couple of games. It's
the substitute teacher rule. Everybody's great to the substitute teacher.
That's not what you do. So you want the innovation.
What does Miami have innovation? Don't lose the innovation with
Lane Kiffin. You keep the innovation. And the other thing is,

(04:30):
I know this idea that the GM selects the coach
and the GM selects the quarterback. I got news here.
Lane Kiffen knows the quarterbacks in the SEC better than
any GM. Season ends. Write a check, get Kiffin. Let
Kiffin make sure he likes the GM. I'd have Kiffin
pick the quarterback, then have the GM pick everybody else. Remember, folks,

(04:52):
I know a lot of these gms. I think they're
really good. I think they're nice guys. They're smart. Half
of them, like two of more than Justin Herbert. Half
of them. I mean, when when Justin Herbert walks into
a room, six', six good, looking strapping, guy four two
biology Major howitzer for an, ARM tua walks into a,

(05:12):
room it's, like are you working? Accounting certain guys look
like pro. Athletes half THE gms won IN tua in THE,
afc where the best teams, are, like you, Know, Baltimore Kansas,
city When burrel's, Healthy, cincinnati it's gonna Be New, ENGLAND
tua in THE. Afc what are we doing so? THINK

(05:35):
i think this is the way to do it, Now mike,
McDaniel after getting blown, Out this was not About baltimore last.
NIGHT i told you yesterday they're gonna. Win they're gonna win.
Comfortably Lamar jackson's, Back they're gonna reel off six straight
wins or. Thereabouts we knew they were gonna win that.
Game this is About. Miami GM's. Out they're gonna keep,
smartly keep the coach to the. End AND i got

(05:55):
nothing Against mike. McDaniel i think he's. Smart i'd hire
him in A New york minute to Be mike co.
Ordinator he's not a head coach here he is After.

Speaker 2 (06:02):
Listen the bottom line is you have to cross or
t's and dot your eyes in the in The National Football,
league or or you get made.

Speaker 3 (06:10):
Pay so.

Speaker 2 (06:13):
There's it's a very very. Disappointing these are the things
that will constantly occur in The National Football. League you
won't like the.

Speaker 1 (06:25):
Result no, presence, Absolutely Dan campbell hits you like a strong.
Drink Mike vrabel, intimidating you, know like. That sean McVay
walks to the. Podium he's he looks and feels like
he's six' eight, horba. PRESENCE presence i said This. About

(06:47):
kiffin keiffen can, be snarky he can be a. Smart
alec you offend, The donors you offend the. Athletic, directory
eh get out of. THAT world i love, College football
get out of. That space just deal with. One owner
you know you got a. Deal sometime. You know miami
actually isn't That. Impulsive miami you know They gave mike
McDaniel a. LONG runway i mean They Gave chris greer

(07:12):
a decade plus to BE, a GM and i don't
think he's. VERY good i got nothing. Against him but
if you have two as, a quarterback you have to
have a good backup quarterback and a great. Old line they.
Have neither so a lot OF. These gms you don't
MAJOR at gm. In college you're. A scout you work your.
WAY up I mean i first step, GM's out, second step,

(07:35):
keep McDaniel, third Step Get. Lane kiffin let him CHOOSE.
The gm because these quarterbacks IN the sec the eight
best quarterbacks going into, the Draft four kiffen's either, recruited him,
faced him watched film on him. All, Right secondly Mahomes
And josh allen face this. Weekend again they've faced. Nine

(07:56):
times mahomes has, Won five allen's. Won four when these
guys came INTO, the nfl they had a lot. In
common both came they didn't win a lot. In college
they both went to Small Markets, Kansas. City buffalo both
the teams had coaches that had led their team in
a previous season to. The playoffs both are. Insanely gifted

(08:18):
are two most. Gifted quarterbacks they played, nine times and
there'd been. Wild shootouts the difference to me Is that
mahomes has the best offensive coach in. League History bill
walsh is the only other one in, the Running And
josh allen has a very. Good COACH and i last
year when these, teams played remember that tush Push thing

(08:42):
buffalo tried to do and it. Looked unorganized remember that
it looked like they Just Told, josh, Allen, hey josh you're.
Six six they just just reached the ball over and
get a. First down and that's. THE difference i Believe
If josh Allen Gets andy Reid, and mahomes. It's McDermott
they both win, a ton but somebody else has. THE

(09:03):
trophies i really Believe That kansas city when They played buffalo,
last year we're better on. Third down we're perfect done.
Fourth Down outscored buffalo in the. Fourth quarter Mahomes and
reed do not beat you in the. Opening drive they beat.
You Late when Brady and belichick were running Around Winning
super Bowl After, super bowl they weren't blowing. People out

(09:23):
they dominated, the rams but every Other Super bowl Belichick
and brady were in were one or lost on. One
possession the colder the, weather gets the later it gets
in the Season, past thanksgiving small. Becomes big the minutia matters.
A ton situational football is the key to all. Of,
it again when the, Weather's warm tua looks like a.

(09:45):
Pro bowler when the weather's warm at seventy two degrees
and everybody's healthy, and comfortable that's not WHAT the. Nfl
IS the Nfl is. December half your defense is, banged
up three or four guys on the ir the, weathers stink,
it's cold and the games come down, to inches, not
feet feet. Not yards and so, TO me i look,

(10:11):
AT McDermott i need it's a very. GOOD coach i
Look At andy reid as the league gets pivoted to
offense as the greatest offensive coach Along With bill walsh of.
All time and so the meetings are. Always superb they're
the two most gifted guys that have played the position
in a long time and. Perhaps ever And Here's josh

(10:34):
allen ahead of the matchup. THIS weekend i.

Speaker 4 (10:37):
Think we've, PLAYED them, i mean damn there every Year
since i've. Gotten here, SO yeah, I mean i guess
you can look at it from a perspective perspective of
we we kind of understand what they try to do,
to us. You know but there's, there's shabs, there's counters,

(10:57):
you know there's there's different things that you can do
throughout seen each other throughout the years of making things
look the same but being. COMPLETELY different.

Speaker 1 (11:06):
I Like. KANSAS city i think. It's competitive later, THIS
hour i do this for the biggest games, every year ten.
Best players, generally speaking whoever has the majority of the
ten best players wins. The game that's been the rule.
Going Forward so i'll give you before the end of
this hour the ten best players in. THIS Game j

(11:27):
mack not, A shock. Lamar's back they roll on, the,
road which by, the Way standalone thursday night games on
the road can be really tough for the. Visiting team
that was not. The Case so chris CAREER and i
don't root for people to, get fired but if you
have a job ten plus YEARS and i still don't
know if you're any good, at it it's time to
move off HIM and i would keep McDaniel in for

(11:47):
the rest of. The season the worst thing you can
do you bringing an. Interim coach early halfway through, the
season he reels off a four game winning streak and,
everybody's like you got to give that guy. The job
that interim coach is almost.

Speaker 5 (11:59):
Never, work yeah would they have three turnoversh for three
in the? Red zone they just. LOOKED inept, i mean
that's the word that keeps coming, to Mind like tua
just didn't look. PARTICULARLY sharp I know dolphins fans are
upset about the tripping call that wiped out the fifty yard,
play Early but.

Speaker 1 (12:13):
Baltimore is a.

Speaker 5 (12:14):
BETTER team i think the, Real question colin is just
how Hot can? BALTIMORE get, i mean would you be
shocked if they were IN the afc?

Speaker 1 (12:21):
Title, GAME no. I wouldn't i'm not so sure the.
BEST team I Think kansas city is the. Best team.
There's arguments the next FOUR teams i LIKE are. Nfc
TEAMS so i Do Think kansas city has separated a
little bit now that they feel like they're all line
in their, run game are getting more in. Sand now six,

(12:43):
WEEKS ago i would Have taken buffalo in. THIS game i,
mean that, you know this is just the way it
works IN. The nfl detroit got Blasted in. Week one
detroit today. Looks FANTASTIC so I Like. KANSAS city i think.
IT'S close i don't think it's it's down to the.
Last play i'll Take the chiefs by about. A touchdown
i think it's a high. Scoring game the weather's Good

(13:03):
in buffalo interest And when Alan and mahomes face, each
other they both got really good. Offensive lines, There's POINTS
so i think it'll be. Great television what about.

Speaker 5 (13:11):
The, FAMILIARITY though, i mean these guys at this point
we know what the other. Tendencies are we Know what
spags is. Gonna do we Know the bills are probably
going to try a Lot Of josh.

Speaker 1 (13:20):
Allen runs you sure you don't like the? Under? HERE
no i think. You know preparation. Is overrated people had
forever to Prepare For. Peyton manning how effective was it
he beat you? Every time preparation's good for. Be players
preparation doesn't really matter, for superstars they.

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Speaker 1 (14:17):
Away welcome Back. IS halloween i haven't quite Decided what
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(14:39):
That CALL so i was never a big to. A
fan i think. HE'S fine i Thought The drew. Brees comp,
come on you know that's that's An insane comp's Like
giving brady as a comp. All time guys, aren't comps,
they're icons. All right so last night there's a play
at the end of, the half and this sums. It

(15:01):
up he basically quits on a play because he can't.
Do anything he has, no escapability he didn't have a.
Big arm he is acknowledged he can't see over. The
line so the end of, the half you can roll.
The tape he he goes. Back here You Think josh
allen would end of the half. Like, this no heave
the ball down the Field. Of mahomes, HE surrenders, i
mean and that's because he. HAS to, i mean that's

(15:21):
kind of what. It is he's a small quarterback without a,
big arm with, no escapability and that's what. He does
that play doesn't look like That If lamar Josh or
mahomes of the Quarterback Or mat stafford who doesn't. Have
mobility so a couple of weeks Ago, against cleveland it
was rainy. And windy it wasn't, that cold but it was,
ugly weather rainy and Windy. In CLEVELAND and i saw
two different times he had, zero touchdowns, three picks one hundred.

(15:45):
Passing yards BUT what i noticed during the game is
he didn't want to. Get hit he did not want to.
Get hit he was letting go of. That ball he
just get look, of that get me out. Of here
it was like a little kid playing with. BIG brothers
i don't have any interest. Getting Hit and, i'm sorry
but that's the kind, of, weather Wet. Rainy CLEVELAND that's.

(16:06):
Afc weather you got to be, a big tough alpha IN.
The afc That's Why joe flacco ages so well IN,
the afc why, big tough. Alpha presence and, this season
if you look at to, his numbers they have, regressed
BADLY and i think part of it. Is psychological he

(16:26):
didn't trust, the staff he didn't trust the. OLD line i,
wouldn't either and he didn't want to. Get hit so
and it's not. A shock he Was, from hawaii he Played.
At bamma now He's. In miami he don't like the,
Cold weather so trust. Your, Eyes listen denver showed you
you can move off a quarterback and have all sorts
of dead. Cap money the key is get the quarterback

(16:50):
right in the first round of, the Draft like denver
Did With, bo nicks and the dead cap money doesn't.
HAVE that, i mean Look at denver's roster. Right now
they're Still Paying. Russell wilson denver's got a top four
roster and they're Still Paying. Russell wilson, so listen if
you look at slightly uncomfortable weather under, sixty degrees two

(17:10):
is four, to thirteen so. Fifty nine, YOU know i
used to joke About. Brock purty. IT'S overcast i, don't
know like IN, the nfl ESPECIALLY, the, afc, big strong
tough's that's what. You need you're going And. Playing Baltimore
Now new england's. Good again SO now i got to

(17:31):
Go to Foxboro in january with One Of mike vrabel's
alpha teams and. Physical teams So Now new england's back to.
Being great, Baltimore's great, Buffalo's Great kansas, city's great And
if burrough, Stays healthy. CINCINNATI'S great i, MEAN yeah i
Mean even denver late in, The Season Mile high city snow's.

(17:52):
Up there so it just never worked. For me here's
two explaining that end of the. Half play.

Speaker 7 (17:59):
You're trying to buy as much time to allow those
guys to get, down there and then for yourself. As
well you, you know you got to try to maneuver
the pocket and then get a get a clean hitch
or crow hop to be able to. Throw that so,
that's WHEN LIKE i i wasn't even looking at the
guys running, down there, YOU know i was kind of

(18:19):
trying to maneuver the pocket and then if the, pocket
ALLOWED then i was going to be able to.

Speaker 1 (18:25):
Launch one but you know. It happens for, the Record
the dolphins have agreed to part ways WITH A gm,
next up find a coach after that draft a quarterback
and for the top eight quarterbacks are FROM. The sec
nobody knows those quarterbacks an offense Better Than. Lane kiffin

(18:47):
my opening Rant today jmack with. The, news, no no.

Speaker 3 (18:53):
This is the Herd.

Speaker 5 (18:54):
Line news what's a better Job the dolphins?

Speaker 1 (18:57):
Are, LS well I mean. Nfl JOBS it's, i MEAN
if i don't have to deal with, an AD if
i don't have to deal, with DONORS if i don't
have to deal, with parents you have to Deal With
josh Allen And. Drake, may yeah IT'S. The nfl every
league got obstacles one.

Speaker 5 (19:14):
Hundred percent, all right let's start With The dallas cowboys
Gone And. Jerry jones he made some comments this week
that Had some cowboys fans a. Little upset he Told
The Wall, street journal there's one hundred billion.

Speaker 1 (19:26):
Present value with gas.

Speaker 5 (19:27):
Out there That's why i'm talking to you on the
phone rather than trying to fix our.

Speaker 1 (19:32):
Defense With The. Dallas.

Speaker 5 (19:33):
Cowboys yeah not great here being.

Speaker 8 (19:36):
A fan and you just read that or, Hear, that yeah,
of course especially right as many fans are and do
and thankful that they do live and breathe by this
team and the guy's never really lied about who he
is or what he's trying. To DO and, i think
right there IS just, i mean hopefully he was talking
about in that one, particular moment, you know maybe in those,
five minutes this is what he was alluding to and

(19:57):
having a chance at a hundred billion dollar. OUT ortunity
i think you might take five minutes as well and
go and go answer. A call so hopefully that's what, he, Means, RIGHT.

Speaker 1 (20:07):
Yeah I mean i think, Once, again dak THE, high
IQ high eq, intangible guy brings down the temperature of
a Situation that i'm sure was all over talk Radio
in dallas for the last thirty. Six hours dak is.
The cooler he, comes in makes a, very reasonable. Rational

(20:28):
explanation we talked for five minutes about one hundred billion,
dollar industry and That's what that's Part of. Dak's greatness
this is a. Noisy franchise he always brings the temperature.
Down smartly that is the perfect answer for. Your quarterback
it's a.

Speaker 5 (20:42):
Good answer, the reality, of course is a billionaire is
not spending five minutes on the.

Speaker 1 (20:47):
Phone call he's prepping for the. Phone call he's thinking
about what they.

Speaker 5 (20:50):
Talk ABOUT it's, i mean let's, be, real like, you
know the guy's. A billionaire he's not as focused On.
The cowboys otherwise they'd. Be better he would have maybe
Gotten the act deal, done earlier would have been able
To Keep.

Speaker 1 (21:02):
Michah parsons now they're up the creek without. A.

Speaker 5 (21:04):
PADDLE colin i don't see a path to victory. For,
them now maybe they Beat the cardinals and they get
back in The, wild card.

Speaker 1 (21:10):
And that's actually blazing five top of the. Next Hour
the bears And the cowboys both have very favorable numbers
in their direction, this WEEKEND although i Should Note kyler murray.

Speaker 5 (21:23):
Is practicing it looks like he'll be back down a
lock that. He's Back If kyler, murray's in it's a.
Good game, if not, you Know. Enjoy monday let's move
On To jackson dart And The New. York, Giants god
i'm close TO admitting i was Wrong About.

Speaker 1 (21:37):
JACKSON dart i did not think you'd be.

Speaker 5 (21:39):
This effective he's almost got one thousand, yards throwing eight
total touchdowns and four on, the ground which.

Speaker 1 (21:46):
Is Impressive Here's.

Speaker 5 (21:47):
Robert salah recognizing That the giants may have found Something
in dart.

Speaker 7 (21:52):
He is.

Speaker 9 (21:53):
UBER talented i Understand Why dave ball went To the.
BLUE tent i probably would have. WENT too, i mean kid's.
Good man he's, a really really really. GOOD kid I
Think new york hit on this one. Big time but,
he's dynamic, he's decisive. He's accurate he's been a joy
to watch over these just studying his tape over lest

(22:17):
he's been what five starts and also and they're doing
a really good job, with.

Speaker 1 (22:21):
Him by, The Way robert, slater presence, the look the,
Deep Voice robert sala should get another head. COACHING job
i really believe that a lot of people have Left
the jets. And flourished my takeaway on Listening to mike
McDaniels after a Game And robert sola before. A game
which guy? Has presence which guy do you think can
lead men through? A tunnel i mean he was a

(22:45):
leader With.

Speaker 5 (22:45):
The jets they just didn't win. Any games he didn't have.
A quarterback it was. A disaster. Roger, stunk hey, real
quick do You Think jackson dartwin's rookie? The YEAR because
I remember draft night there.

Speaker 1 (22:55):
Was a lot.

Speaker 5 (22:56):
Of, laster well according to, some shops he's the Current
Favorite Colin travis hunter just WENT on ir, This morning.

Speaker 1 (23:03):
Total disaster keep on the wide Receiver.

Speaker 5 (23:06):
In, Tampa, Bukah, okay yes he has the second, best
odds Followed By tyler warren and Then t Maak.

Speaker 1 (23:11):
IN carolina i would Go at Buca and warren. Won
two wellbuka has been a little.

Speaker 5 (23:16):
Dinged up he hasn't been one, hundred percent so he's had,
some big high. Profile games dart just doesn't. Have WINS
but i, don't, Know man dart's actually been way BETTER
than i thought he, would be and now he has,
no weapons like. No Neighbors Now scata. Booth's out if
he's able to do something and win, THIS game i
think he takes a. Clear lead he's currently a, slight
FAVOR but i think he takes a. Clear Lead tyler

(23:37):
warren would probably be my. Second choice don't you think
he's been driving force For.

Speaker 1 (23:41):
THE colts i would say a receiver Over tight end
in terms of value, and IMPORTANCE but i would Go
with Ibuka. And, Warren. Yeah okay final story Calls The.

Speaker 5 (23:51):
Detroit, lions obviously they got a big game Against The.
Minnesota vikings they've kind Of owned. Kevin O'Connell in the
last three, At home detroit Will FACE. Jay j McCarthy
and it Sounds Like christian derisol may. Not play he
sat out. Practice yesterday that's your left tackle Down Against.
Aiden hutchison, oh boy here we go talking About the

(24:15):
Lions And.

Speaker 1 (24:16):
Jared goff that's the. Whole thing they want.

Speaker 10 (24:19):
To penetrate they want to get in. The backfield they
want to get, you know typically five or six guys
rushing one on ones. On everybody and in, that case
they run some, pick games they run, some stunts they
do a little bit, of everything and they want to disrupt
your timing and get in. The backfield and it's up
to us up front and to me to get the
ball out and to do.

Speaker 9 (24:36):
Everything.

Speaker 5 (24:36):
Right yeah so This this vikings defense Under Blind, brian
florest was really good. Last year they have not been good.
This year we know what they want. To do their
back end, is terrible so the blitz is. Not effective
it's also.

Speaker 1 (24:48):
Much harder, again contextualized why was the defense better last
year because the defense the offense had a lead and
the defense could pin their. Ears back so this is all. Complimentary, Football,
Well kevin kevin O'Connell doesn't know what. He's, doing no
he didn't have. A Quarterback brian flora is. His defense

(25:09):
they're on the field, too, long right defensive players. Get
hurt all. Complimentary football if you don't get the, quarterback
right everybody looks stupid IN, the nfl these are a great.
Coaching staff thank God The niners Sala and shanahan Have
mac jones as. A backup otherwise we'd, be, Like oh
sala is. A, Disaster well sala has a quarterback In

(25:30):
mac jones on the other side of the offense For
the niners that can win time, of possession that can
get the ball into the. End zone so this is
A great. Minnesota's fine you got to cross your FINGERS
if jj McCarthy hits and they'll. Be fine there. YOU
go j mckl.

Speaker 3 (25:48):
The news well that's, the news and thanks for stopping
by The Herd.

Speaker 1 (25:52):
Line news you, KNOW what i was going to talk
About the dodgers for, a second but since we're Talking About,
THENNESOTA vikings I actually i believe this to. Be TRUE
so i saw this story today where there was an
underlying tension Surrounding. THE vikings jj McCarthy in. The building
there's an, underlying tension AND what i am about TO

(26:15):
say i absolutely believe. Is True The minnesota vikings this
year Are The. Indianapolis colts, last year the roster, Was
Excellent olne weapons. Head Coach the colts just needed. A
Quarterback the indianapolis media the last two years has been
banging On the. Colts organization you didn't have. A quarterback

(26:38):
once you get the alpha, at quarterback it. Changes everything
but if, you don't you. Look incompetent quarterback is. The
steak you can have A great you go to. A
restaurant the, veno's good the sides, are amazing bathrooms. ARE clean,
i mean it's just the apps. Are unbelievable the dessert
super steak stinks. Bad experience it doesn't matter if the.

(27:04):
STEAK'S bad i don't care about, the sides the veno
and the wait staff or. The ambiance steak bad night
bad IN. The nfl minnesota And the colts roster LIKE
the gm excellent, offensive coach. Quarterback's bad everybody. Looks incompetent
that IS. The NFL and i will pay for both

(27:27):
a great steak and a. Great quarterback don't. Go cheap
want to. Save money do it on your. Paper, towels
okay don't do it on. Your steak don't do it on.
YOUR quarterback, i mean you've gone to a. Restaurant before
a steakhouse can get. Everything right the steak is burnt,
to raw just not very good. RUINS tonight I like

(27:51):
brussels sprouts as much as the. NEXT guy i like
that espresso at the end of, the. Night too got
to get the. Steak right and SO when i See
the vikings and now Everybody El Brian flores, CAVAN O'Connell
i don't like his. Play call, you know we don't
talk about a play calling when You Have justin Irbert Or.
Jordan love we don't talk About the packers play calling

(28:14):
much the last, Thirty Years, Far Rogers. Jordan love. You
don't but you're under a microscope to begin with in.
This league if the quarterback, doesn't work everybody in. THE
building i mean you're literally going home telling your wife
we may have to put the house up, for sale
pay for the, right steak pay for the. Right quarterback

(28:35):
so my fingers. Are CROSSED and I love. KEVIN O'Connell
i think. HE'S great, i mean go Look at sean
mcvhann La When matt stafford's gotten dinged up a couple,
Of Times matt stafford's miss, games, boy genius where do?
You go is it an imposter a mcvaith's. Play calling
it's very Iffy And. Matt stafford so nobody looks good

(28:59):
with incompetent backups or reckless players on. The field, Uh
OH so i do this every time there's what we
consider like two or three times a, football season and
we do it IN the. Nba playoffs if a game
is going to be close between and two iconic quarterbacks
or two, great franchises we write down the ten best

(29:19):
players in the game in order one, through ten ten. To,
one generally whoever's got the most good players wins. The
game we'll do that With the bills And the chiefs.

Speaker 3 (29:29):
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Speaker 5 (29:33):
Em, pacific Tonight it's game six Of The world Series
As vlad junior In The blue jays are one went
away from their first title in thirty, two Years While
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Take all game seven coverage begins at Seven pm eastern
Four pm Pacific.

Speaker 1 (29:52):
ON fox i Like the. Dodgers tonight They're. Throwing yoshi he's.
Been unbelievable he's our true as didn't miss the start the,
S year. SO listen i tend to think the difference
Between the chiefs And the bills has not. BEEN quarterback, i,
think situationally in, CLOSE games I think I Take andy
reid over virtually everybody in. The League bill walsh is the.

(30:15):
ONLY coach, I Mean sean payton's obviously, great OFFENSIVELY but
i Just think andy and those those circumstances, fourth, down big,
third down red, zone stuff and that's where these games.
Are decided it's the gms are both more. THAN competent
i do Like the chiefs roster more Than, the bills
But the bill's got a lot of, good players and
so it's, good organizations, good OWNERSHIP and i think the

(30:36):
games area. Was close they've played, Nine times mahomes has.
Won five allen's done very well in the. Regular season
You know mahomes has done better in. The postseason we all.
Know that so let's, here are in, my opinion the
ten best players. In order we'll start with. Number ten
and that Would Be joey bosa Of The. Buffalo bills

(30:59):
leads them in sad and quarterback hits. And pressures he
is the Highest graded Bill's defenser bill's defender this season ACCORDING.
To pff Number Nine Drew trankuell chiefs Highest graded chiefs defender.
This season when that guy gets his hands, on you

(31:22):
he doesn't miss a tackle three hundred and sixty eight
total defensive staffs, this year he's missed. One tackle Number
Eight rashi rice three touchdowns in. Two Games when Mahomes
targets rice in, His career he's one hundred and twenty seven.
Passer rating he is an absolute. Number one needs to improve,

(31:45):
with maturity but he's. A Dude rashi rice. At eight
Number Seven deon dawkins Left Tackle pro bowler again Four
Straight Pull Bowl. Pro bowls has not allowed a quarterback
hit a hit two hundred sixty snaps. This year top
four left tackle IN. The Nfl. Dan dawkins Number Six

(32:09):
travis kelcey only tight end in league history ninety plus
catches seven. Straight, seasons oh by, the way He's Led
kansas city and receiving yards leads them right now three
straight seasons you guys keep Telling Me travis kelcey. Is
washed he keeps leading them in receptions in those. BIG
games i. DON'T know i Watched the chiefs last game

(32:31):
and don't look washed. To me Number Five. Chris jones
he plays a position where there are very few men
that can do what he. Can do Six Straight, pro
bowls leads all interior linemen in sacks the last. FOUR
seasons i don't think he's having a, great year, But

(32:52):
Again chris jones Is like kelsey in these. Big spots
never be surprised when, he delivers especially laid in. Game
games Number Four james cook career high last week two
hundred and sixteen yards Against. The panthers this is the
number one rush offense IN, the nfl and it's, pretty
simple Much like saquon And the eagles when he rushes

(33:15):
for over one. Hundred Yards the bills are five and zero,
this season so they're a lot Closer to philadelphia than.
You think they're driven by, the Run Not, josh allen
Even Though josh allen will run more this week because
he always does when they face spags In The kansas.
City defense, number three probably the best center, In Football,

(33:38):
creed humphrey highest rated, player Anywhere including Mahomes the. Chiefs
have now he's, this center so he's not as valuable
as an edge rusher Or A chris jones or. A
quarterback but, this year three hundred and fifty four times
he's had the, pass flock zero. Sacks allowed probably now

(33:58):
the best center IN. The nfl dot number TWO Raining Mvp,
josh allen number three on the NFL's top one hundred
players at twenty. Twenty five WHAT can i say that hasn't?
Been said only thing missing is a trophy other than
that perfect quarterback number one. Favorite doing THIS Year's Mvp

(34:23):
patrick mahomes LEADS the nfl in, total touchdowns second in.
Total yards NOBODY makes C and b receivers look like.
A receivers nobody has that cognitive, spatial awareness, sees it
lets it, rip accurately accurately Better Than, patrick mahomes as
good as we've ever had at. The Position Now ed

(34:45):
oliver would be on, this list but he's, not available
so let's count. Him Up six Chiefs. Four bills number
eleven would probably Be. At oliver even Banged up trent

(35:07):
mcduffie'd be up there, as well so both McDuffie and
oliver the. NEXT guy i feel there is a Slight edge.
CHIEFS roster i think they have more. Weapons Offensively the bills,
RUN better, i think and that has real value if

(35:29):
you Can keep mahomes on, the sideline. Real value that's
the way To beat mahomes is have a good run
game and now it Hasn't. Held baltimore that's the way
to beat him in. Big games, of course nobody beats
him in big, games much but that's the way to. Do,
it yeah and a lot of, this stuff like you
could argue Right Now creed humphries the best player in

(35:49):
terms of, his position but his positional value does not
hold up to a quarterback or maybe an. Edge RUSHER
what i do think it's Funny Is. Travis kelcey and
maybe It's The taylor. Swift factor, you know, everybody's, like
well you know that guy is once again Leading the chiefs. In,
catches also unlike the smaller wide Receivers For, Kansas City

(36:12):
travis kelsey is asked. To BLOCK and i also think
there is something to be said there's a certain Radar
the Mahomes and kelsey have in Big spots Brady and
gronk absolutely. Had this brady just knew he could look
Over at gronk and there was this kind of unwritten
wavelength that, They're, like okay it's. The coverage, we thought

(36:35):
you know what. To DO and i think you. Developed that,
You Know, philip rivers Maybe With, antonio gates you know
you got a tight end you like or a big
target you like for five or six or, seven years
and it's a big third down you look over at
him and you kind of just know it's the matchup.
We LIKE so I think kelsey in these big Games
with mahomes. Is invaluable.

Speaker 5 (36:59):
My only beef is you didn't Move the chiefs to
the top of the herd Hierarchy Until rashie rice. CAME
back i don't think there's any way if you Asked, the,
bills hey who you guys Scared Of rashi Rice Or
travis kelce coming into, this game they would Definitely. Say
RICE so i Would put rice Ahead. Of kelsey and the.
Other thing, You Know greg russo is an edge rusher For.
The bills he doesn't have eye popping, sack numbers but

(37:22):
he is an awesome player off. THE arch i would
have him In Over, drew tranquill who's, a good. Solid
linebacker he's having a, good YEAR but i don't think.
HE'S great I Like james cook's matchup against him a lot,
this WEEKEND so i would have it five. To five but,
You know i'm Allegedly a, chiefs hater.

Speaker 1 (37:37):
SO agedly i don't think you have to take a
big stretch to come up with. THAT opinion a lot.

Speaker 5 (37:43):
Of it's, fact based some of, the opinion, but, YEAH
largely i think this is probably the big biggest.

Speaker 1 (37:49):
Matchup of the season.

Speaker 5 (37:50):
TO date i just think you're under selling the home
field advantage and How the bills usually wreck them in the.

Speaker 1 (37:55):
Regular season you know what's what's really interesting is THAT
and i talked about, this earlier so, you know we
talk about all the time in all, these businesses you
want to be about a year to a year ahead
of the curve on what's happening and what's nobody's really paying.
Attention To So new england's now going to be Legit
with Drake man vrabel for. Several years so think. ABOUT

(38:17):
this i was just TEXTING a gm About The MIAMI
dolphins gm opening and think. About This So. New england
we all know that Football's decided. Thanksgiving on think about NOW,
the afc BECAUSE, the nfc You've, GOT, Dome la You've Got.
Dome Detroit Now green bay's got, cold weather but there
are some, friendly Environments Right san francisco's not brutal. Winter

(38:42):
weather you look AT. The Afc Now new. England's back
you spending Time in Foxboro in December. And, january no
so look at the next five six years IN. The
afc If you're miami and you have to draft The Quarterback, New, England,
Baltimore Buffalo, kansas City And joe Burrows. Back, cincinnati oh

(39:05):
every single big game IN the afc will be an.
Awful Weather, so miami you just FIRED. Your gm you're
gonna get a coach of all these, College quarterbacks so
there's going to be like up to eight guys will.
Be considered as, For, ya no That's what i'm hearing.
Up now that doesn't mean eight it'll get drafted in the.
First round eight are going to. Be, considered okay it'll

(39:26):
probably be a five and, three three he'll go to the.
Second round but there are guys that are more equipped
to throw in lousy weather and that's what you have.
To have miami drafts like they're a warm weather team
and they play IN. The sec that's not. The case
now comes to. Cold weather SO the afc is shaping

(39:47):
Up with rabel And the. Patriots emergence here. We go
this IS why i always said this Is About.

Speaker 7 (39:52):
TOM.

Speaker 1 (39:52):
Brady J mac brady is the best crappy Weather thrower i've.
EVER seen i remember A throw brady made Here in
chicago up the left sideline before half. Terrible weather it
was a FREAKING the. L train it was, a Bullet and,
i'm like that is. A. Skill hey by, The way
i'm getting a text here FROM.

Speaker 5 (40:13):
A j harbaugh, who Says, tell Colin it's Sonny in
January In.

Speaker 1 (40:18):
Los angeles don't rule Out. The, chargers listen You, love
herbert but You. Love Harball bud denver's got, cold weather
and you gotta win your division to get home. Playoff
games chargers will make. The playoffs are they going to
win the division and get a? HOME game i don't think.
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