Colin Cowherd breaks down why the Dallas Cowboys are failing QB Dak Prescott after another tough loss to the Arizona Cardinals, dropping to 3-5-1 on the season. The Cowboys might be wasting Dak's prime
He gives his reasons why the Cardinals might be better off with Jacoby Brissett at QB over Kyler Murray
BREAKING NEWS: Colin comments on the huge trade between the Jets and the Colts that is sending Sauce Gardner to Indianapolis.
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Speaker 4 (00:48):
I gotta tell you, I am this is fascinating to me.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
So you and I think both we like business, you know,
we kind of into it, like especially the sports business.
It's amazing to me what people go cheap on. Like
I've always said, like in life, transportation, toilet paper and
quarterbacks don't go cheap. You know, you can go cheap
on paper, towelsand water. But it's amazing to me the
Dallas Cowboys are worth ten billion dollars. Now think about that,
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So wouldn't you be willing to spend like more than
four or five million on the head coach. I mean,
I used to be critical of Dak Prescott. I'm sympathetic
for Dak Prescott. I feel bad for him. He needs
a life preserver. He's drowning with this team. The head
coaching staff for Dallas, it's just suboptimal. Bad night, no energy,
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no juice. Offensive line got humiliated. Third most penalized team
in the league. I mean, they haven't won a game
where they didn't score thirty seven plus point second straight year.
The defense is thirty first. I mean, I feel bad
for Dak. The NFL has far more poorly run teams
than well run teams. We all know the good ones
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Seattle and Green Bay and Detroit and Baltimore and Buffalo
and Kansas City. We know the well run teams. When
I watched the Dallas Cowboys last night getting hammered at
home by a journeyman NFL quarterback, Dallas is a lot
closer to the Saints and the Titans and the Jets.
I mean, even right now, the Panthers have a pulse.
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The Panthers beat Dallas this year, but I mean they
prioritize the wrong stuff. They won't spend money on a
big time coach. Folks, Mike Vrabel first year, eight nine
games in, they're a playoff team. Sean Payton most dead
cap money in league history. Doesn't matter playoffs for the
rookie quarterback. Jim Harbaugh took over a shipwreck playoff team.
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I mean, you gotta pay him nineteen million bucks a year,
eighteen million a year, and you gotta give them power
in some control in personnel, and Jerry won't do it.
But the longer Brian Schottenheimer's the head coach, it's like,
we've all had a bad manager.
Speaker 5 (03:00):
Ian.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
I've been very, very lucky in my life. I've had
almost singularly great management. But we've all had a bad
boss somewhere. And the longer the bad boss is the boss,
the worse it gets. It's bad in the first month,
it's terrible after six months, and after a year you're like,
we need a new boss. But you could have had
Sean Payton, he used to be an assistant there.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
You could have had Rabel.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
I mean, you had a lot of opportunities, but you
got to spend twenty million.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
Dollars, but they're not willing to do it.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
Here's the other thing that I noticed with Dallas is
that you can't have any conditions in the NFL with winning.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
Bill Belichick was done.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
When Bill Belichick said, there's just I only want to
coach certain players. When Bill Belichick said that, Bro, you're done.
You got to coach the best players, even if some
of them aren't perfect human beings. They're young kids, they
make a lot of money, they make mistakes. You can't
have conditions. Jerry has conditions. He's willing to win if
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he has a say and he has control. That is
not the NFL. This isn't college football where there's like
the Ohio State roster is better than almost every team
they play every week.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
That's not the way. It is.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
A backup. Jacoby Brissett, he's been on six teams, the
Patriots twice walked into your building and rolled you. That's
because you have conditions. Belichick had conditions. You can't do
it that way. And the other thing is when Jimmy
Johnson was there and Parcels, there was friction. Friction's great,
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it's how It creates clarity. Jimmy doesn't want friction from
his coach. He wants Jason Garrett, he wants Mike McCarthy,
he wants Brian Schottenheimer, he wants comfort. So the two
things you can't do as an owner in this league
is seek comfort with your coach. The good ones are
gonna push you off sometimes. The good ones are gonna
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have an opinion. The good ones are gonna want to
have a say. I mean Brian Schottenheimer. You saw that
pickings penalty last night. He didn't want part of the friction.
And the other thing is you can't have conditions in
this league. I mean I for years I was tough
on Dak Prescott. I feel terrible for the guy. I
do I will acknowledge. I do think eventually the Mica
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trade a year, you know, eight months from now, in
April or whatever it is, that will pay off. But
that that thing last night, that Dallas looked a lot
closer to the Titans and the Jets than they did
the Rams of the Eagles, of the Ravens and the Bills.
And here is Dak Prescott.
Speaker 6 (05:34):
After knowing that you're better than that, and going out
there not and putting a performance close to your standard
or even the expectations or what you thought you could
do and expect it to do against this team. And
credit to those guys. That's the beauty of the NFL
games play stats. None of that's done on paper. You've
got to go out there and you've got to earn
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it that that night with everything taken into account, and
they kicked our and both sides of the ball.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
Yeah, I mean, unbelievable. Here's the other thing. Sean Payton
used to be. You know, he was coaching on the
Cowboys on the offensive side. He left the Cowboys in
two thousand and six. And again, I know Sean pretty well. Okay,
Sean's got an opinion. Shaan's not easy. Sean is a
good guy. But Shawn's got an opinion. Bill Parcells has
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an opinion. Jimmy Johnson has an opinion. They're gonna make
life uncomfortable. They're gonna confront you. Sean Payton's got an
eye and Jimmy, Sean and Parcells may in my opinion,
have the best sense of personnel. Those guys like are
really good on personnel. A lot of coaches aren't. And
he read admits that's not his thing. Some guys are
play designers and play callers. Those guys are personnel guys. Jimmy,
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Jimmy knows personnel, maybe as good as any coach that's
ever now. Jim Harball, right out of college, also knows personnel.
Peyton's good with personnel. You are all banging on that
Harvey pick up in the second round. He's really good.
And they got dead cap money everywhere, and he's banging.
He's hitting and hitting and hitting and hitting with his
GM on these players. But Peyton left in two thousand
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and six. Since then, and by the way, he went
to the worst team in the league. So Sean Payne
went to the worst team in the league, and then
he went to Denver with the worst dead cap money.
Sean Payne's got nine playoff wins since then. Jerah has four.
You gotta seek discomfort in any business now. Jerry, to
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his credit, is acknowledging it. But listen carefully. After last
night's embarrassing debacle, there's enough.
Speaker 5 (07:40):
Of tensity here really, you don't have to add just
anger to it. I don't know where that feeling is.
It's somewhere. I'm pretty frustrated, right now with how we
got here, my decision making relative to the things that
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go ONWN. You know the way we dial it up
here and there's no dodging looking at in the mirror.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
Appreciate the candor, appreciate the honesty, but it is a
mirror is what they need.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
That was embarrassing.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
And I got to say this for Jacoby Brissett, and
I love these reclamation stories, I really do. I remember
years and years ago Parcels was telling everybody, I love
this kid named Jacoby Brissette. I love him. He's just
a pro. I really appreciate football players. They may not
be stars, but they love the game and they bounce
around the league. And Jacoby Brissett, by the way, they
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are six point better in Arizona when he plays over
Kyler Murray.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
It's been a bad year for small quarterbacks.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
Russell Wilson, Tua and Kyler Murray since twenty nineteen have
one playoff win. And people were trying to convince me
a Johnny Manzell, and I said, get out of here,
and Dylan Gabriel get out of here. Jacobyset, Oh what
a shock. Marvin Harrison on the same day complained he
couldn't watch Arizona's offense because his son wasn't getting the ball.
(09:07):
Marvin Harrison as his best game as a pro and
the best move in the red zone by any receiver
this year.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
So I got nothing against Kyler Murray. I've met him.
I like him.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
I think he's the most elusive young quarterback I've ever seen,
even more so than Russell Wilson. And I bought into it,
but you know, we got five years here. He hadn't
been a pro bowler, he hadn't had a passer rating
over one hundred.
Speaker 4 (09:28):
And here's the thing.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
I don't think he loves football, and I don't think
that's a hot take. I'm the owner of Arizona, I
know the former GM. I think he's super talented, but
this has been a referendum year. Size matters. I'm looking
at all these college quarterbacks. Mendoza six', Five Dante moore
six two and a, half sixty, three these college. Quarterbacks
the old Mis kid's, good small but, good but most
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of them are six one and a, half six two
and a, half six three and a.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
Half and that's the. Key we've tried to.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
Convince ourselves that size doesn't. Matter but when you got
McBride And harris and you need to deliver the ball
over the middle of the, field those guys need the ball.
Speaker 4 (10:04):
On the run.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
Underneath AND i, MEAN i Just i'm watching him last.
NIGHT i Think arizona reminds me Of indianapolis last. Year
everybody was crushing the coach in THE gm AND i see.
TALENT i Think arizona's got. Dudes i've been saying this
for two.
Speaker 4 (10:20):
Years Like. Colts The colts have.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
Dudes they didn't have a, quarterback so you Put Jacoby brissett,
in who's a bounce around the league, journeyman Just Jacoby,
brissett and they're worth almost a touchdown more a. GAME
i mean it feels, like now here's THE i will,
Say Kyler murray is. Movable you don't have to pay.
Him there's no guaranteed. MONEY i, think is it after next?
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Year there's no guaranteed. Money so he's, movable AND i
don't think the BEST gms in the legue will go after.
Him but he's super. Talented you, know if you're in
chaos or you're, desperate you'll go get. Him but the coach,
says after that really impressive, win on the row standalone
game That brissette was, Good But kyler's the.
Speaker 7 (11:04):
GUY i thought he played, well thought he. Operated we
had one protection issue that's on me us. Coaches we've
got to do a better job with that with some.
Protection and then on, one you, know, sack they made
it a little adjustment with the play that were. In
it was a good job By flu to make the adjustment.
There SO i just got to keep him clean and
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he shows how you can deliver the.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
Football, Well kyler's still be your stating quarterback from Your.
Giant nothing's changed on.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
That, yeah nothing's changed except the. Results who are we fooling?
Here you got to stop, PROTECTING i mean you really.
Speaker 4 (11:40):
Do it's you, know it's like In.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
INDIANAPOLIS i feel Like i'm watching The colts WHERE i
for two YEARS i kept Defending Chris.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
Ballard i'm watching the.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
GAMES i like their, players they just don't have the
guy to distribute it accurately. Enough and we've been five
years here with the passer rating under one, hundred and
it just seemed like to, Me Jacoby brissett unlocks that
offense a little.
Speaker 4 (12:02):
Bit so there you, go J.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
MAC i there are some THINGS i cannot get over
heard hierarchy at the top of next.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
HOUR i don't know what to do with The.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
PACKERS i don't know WHAT i don't know what to
do With Kansas.
Speaker 8 (12:16):
City do The packers have the widest range of outcomes this?
Season they could lose in the first, round they could
win The.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
Super you know WHAT i was saying to the staff
this morning through this nasally, voice is That Matt lafleur
reminds me a little Of Lincoln riley AT. USC i
think they're both really. SMART i think THEY'RE i think
they love to run the ball. FIRST i think they're
(12:42):
very good at developing. Quarterbacks but SOMETIMES i, question With Lincoln,
riley what's the identity OF usc? Football and with right
now with Green, bay what is my?
Speaker 4 (12:54):
Question?
Speaker 3 (12:55):
What what are The packers they? Got, dudes don't tell
Me greena didn't have, talent AND i don't want to
hear they're. Young seattle's almost as, young And seattle's on a.
Heater seattle looks, like honestly a top three or four
team in the.
Speaker 8 (13:08):
League they Got arizona this week in what is a scary,
game right Because seattle looks like the best team in The.
League what has happened to all the quarterbacks of the
best teams in the league.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
The last like four?
Speaker 8 (13:16):
Weeks baker, loses, Right Daniel jones, Loses Patrick mahones. Loses
Think seattle's got to be on upset alert this week
against suddenly Mighty. Arizona huh which A Kobe brissett under center.
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Subscribe you know what's amazing about The National Football league
is in, baseball if you like a, guy you like a.
Guy generally you're, Like, okay he's twenty four he's got
a good. Arm you're, like, yeah like he's gonna give
us twenty eight good.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
Stars he's a good.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
Pitcher he may not Be, Clayton kershaw Or, yoshi but
he's a good. Pitcher same in, basketball you like a
guy or you. Don't very rarely do you change your
opinion quickly on AN nba player or A Major League baseball.
Player football is different because of the component of the
regulated level of violence is that you can like a,
guy but if he's always, hurt he doesn't do you any.
Good Like Malik neighbors for The New York giants is.
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Good he's hurt too. Much he's not a top ten.
RECEIVER i don't care how talented he. Is he's hurt too.
Much AND i was thinking about. This Ben johnson was
talking About Caleb. Williams if you asked me a year
ago this, QUESTION i have a totally different. Answer but
if you told me, TODAY i have got a, ride
ride or die for the next four to five years
With Caleb williams of The bears Or Jaden, DANIELS i
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would Take Caleb. Williams, well How jaden's been hurt four.
Times jayden's not Available caleb is a, bigger, stronger more,
physical trunkier. Athlete and, so by the, Way Jaden DANIELS
nfl career thirty three, touchdowns eleven. Picks you want to
know What CALEB'S nfl career, is thirty two, touchdowns ten.
Picks and the difference Is Jaden daniels walked into this
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league and it was a do. Over there was all
this newness IN dc and he was part of. It
it was, fresh it was, new it was. Ascending that's
not what happened For Caleb. Williams he walked into the
middle of a home renovation and they were on the
second project. Manager it wasn't going well, okay like there
were holes. Everywhere there was some fraud going on the home.
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Renovation matty Eber flus and his cartoon coaching.
Speaker 4 (15:53):
Staff that's what he.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
Inherited and Remember caleb did not start nearly as many
games As Jayden. Daniels Caleb williams came in very Very
he had twenty two fewer starts Than Jayden.
Speaker 4 (16:05):
Daniels So jayden comes in with a lot more.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
Starts he's in THE, sec has MORE nfl, bodies and
then he gets this Cliff kingsbury And Dan quinn in
the newness And terry. McLaurin but now you look today
and you got a ride or die and you're, Like
caleb dunn't tony. Picks caleb's always. Healthy he's a, bigger,
thicker stronger. Athlete AND i, mean right, now The, bears
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this is the Best bears offense since nineteen.
Speaker 4 (16:32):
Eighty three through nine.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
Games and we can nitpick, here but the kid has
developed a relationship With Roma. Dunze right, now they're number
one in THE nfl in big plays per.
Speaker 4 (16:45):
Game it's A Sam donald. Thing it's An Andrew luck.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
Thing people used to pick it And Andrew luck because
of the, picks and they'd pick On Sam. Darnold Sam
donald is a big play. Quarterback he is a big play.
Quarterback Caleb williams same. Thing it's not always he can
miss the. Layups he's not highly accurate all the. Time
but it's just in THE nfl my. OPINION i, mean
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Like Drake may at the end of last, year you're, like,
yeah there's something. There then four games in With, vrabel you're, like,
oh that's a star like. That that is a top
seven quarterback in the. League, eventually and that's what football
does to. Us AND i Like Jayden daniels a, lot
but now we got four injuries in two. Years and
that was the primary concern With Jaden daniels in. College
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So i've said this many. Times when the primary concern
in college becomes the primary concern in THE, nfl you got.
Speaker 4 (17:39):
Trouble.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
Now caleb's primary issue is he doesn't play in. Structure,
Well axley's playing more in structure and he's cut his
sacks in, half so he's doing a better. JOB i
don't think he's a super accurate. Guy he'll get, better
but he's a Little Cam newton. Here he's just got
so much damn firepower and so much horsepower that sometimes
he's so amped up he'll miss the. Layups But Ben
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johnson on that wild win over The, bengals he said
that was an offensive.
Speaker 11 (18:06):
Win there were times this year THAT i felt like
we won in spite of the, offense and this was
probably the first TIME i felt like the offense had
had a big say in us winning that, game and
so that was that was encouraging to, me just for that.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
Phase and it's not necessarily flip. Floppy there is A
there's a difference between you, know a dog ate my,
homework that's an, excuse or, yeah somebody t boned the
school bus on the. Way the kids were all. Late
they're all, okay but they were late to. School that's.
Different the reality is With caleb is fewer college starts
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goes To chicago hot mess of a coaching. Staff that's
a that's a real bonafide reason for. Struggling But i'm
watching him right, now and if you had to give
one word description of every one of the young quarterbacks
For Drake, may you would say, Hit Bo, nicks HIT jj,
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McCarthy somewhere between shaky and, Undetermined MICHAEL pennockx. Unsure caleb
kind of feels like a. Hit it's not always, pretty
but it's trending. There Danny parkins talked about this yesterday
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on our.
Speaker 12 (19:27):
Show he had to go through Firing Matt eberflus and
Firing Shane waldron and the whole fiasco of last. Year
but they upgraded the offensive, line they upgraded his, weapons
they upgraded his, coach who happened to also be his play,
caller and he's seeing.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
Growth you mentioned the.
Speaker 12 (19:41):
Sacks he has what fourteen sacks taken in eight. Weeks
he took sixty eight sacks last. YEAR i don't need
to give you anything else beyond that and its.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
Improvement caleb's a.
Speaker 12 (19:53):
Gamer that's his third come from behind drive in the
fourth quarter in his last five. Games so is he
perfect or a finished? Product far from. It but he's
really talented and he's getting better week by.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
WEEK.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
Yep Heard hierarchy top Of Next hour With nick Right
Matt mosley talking some cowboys.
Speaker 4 (20:11):
Before the end of this.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
HOUR a lot of stuff, today but it kind of
feels like we're trending toward a. HIT i know it's,
early but there are times when you get a bad.
Boss it's your first job out of, college, right and
maybe your son or daughter you're, listening you're a. Dad
the first job out of college is the company's not real,
good and you're maybe your son or daughters a little.
Immature they definitely, need you, know a really nice landing
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spot in their first, job and they don't get. It
you can't bail on. PEOPLE i, Mean Sam darnold's a
great example of. That Baker mayfield be very careful about
bailing on quarterbacks in a league where there's never been
more good offensive, coaching And caleb finally got. Some it
was a second, coach but he finally got.
Speaker 4 (20:51):
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Speaker 5 (20:55):
Turn on the.
Speaker 8 (20:55):
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lyons lost to The. Vikings come and they were coming
out of the bye. Week they were considered one of
the better teams in the, league and they kind of
got smashed at home By. Minnesota Jared goff got beat
up badly talking to the media after the. Game Dan
campbell took responsibility for the team's lack of.
Speaker 13 (21:15):
Preparedness we did everything we needed to do to uh
to lose that. Game we made every critical airy you
needed to at the right time to lose.
Speaker 5 (21:25):
It perfect.
Speaker 13 (21:26):
Storm you, know when you don't play well in all three,
phases that falls on the head. Coach that's. Me SO
i did not have him ready coming out of a
Bye you know we. Weren't we made too many cretical.
Speaker 5 (21:40):
Errors.
Speaker 13 (21:40):
Man.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
YEAH I detroit's one of my favorite picks of the
week Against, washington a really good team that had a
really bad home loss in. Division you know what we always,
say like like commanders now trade, deadline what's the commander's
locker room like, Today knowing ten guys in that locker
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room are not sure the team wants to keep. Them
that's not a good week of practice for the commander's old.
Speaker 4 (22:09):
Team beat.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
UP i mean for the next several, hours their commander
players talking to their agents' wives LIKE i may be
out of. Town So detroit's got a, galvanized, focused angry locker.
Room the commanders is all sorts of, questions, enigmatic and
players don't know if they'll be with the commanders in an.
Speaker 4 (22:27):
Hour so let me.
Speaker 8 (22:28):
Focus, Yeah washington's. Cooked let's focus on The lions for a.
Second so we've seen this. Season i'll have some data
for you later in the. Week teams coming off Of
by this season have, roared they've, ripped they've been. Amazing
we just saw The cardinals come off of buy and
just they were dominant for three plus.
Speaker 4 (22:44):
Quarters The rams off Of by.
Speaker 8 (22:46):
Unbelievable why did Didn't campbell flop so badly off a?
Speaker 2 (22:50):
Bike is he?
Speaker 3 (22:51):
Okay so, no, no, no, No he's a total. Grinder
so this is a very legitimate. Question there are two
types of code coaches in THE, nfl primarily.
Speaker 4 (23:03):
CEOs they're not scheme.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
Gurus shanahan is Okay, Shanahan Andy, reid they're great schemes and.
CEOs when you give the scheme guys like McVeigh an extra,
week it Is Sean.
Speaker 4 (23:17):
Payton you're.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
Cooked but if you give the, CEOs the, yellers the
guys that are mostly about physiology and psychology and, presence
what do they do with the extra. Time so my
feeling is there are certain. TEAMS i love offensive coaches
off a bye IF i think they're scheme guys because
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they'll bring in six new. Looks but if it's just,
hey you, Know Mike tomlin's not a scheme, guys a,
Motivator Dan campbell same, thing there's nothing wrong with. That
BUT i think if you look At detroit and you're,
like well what? Happened, WELL i mean the truth is
the intensity is the key For Dan campbell and in
the bye week lost. It if you watch that, game
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like The cowboys last night were, flat they were, Flat
detroit was.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
Flat great.
Speaker 8 (24:09):
POINTS a couple of notes, Here Jared goff got pressured thirty.
Speaker 4 (24:13):
Times oh, no, no, No.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
Zack Five Ti.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
CRAB i haven't Seen detroit's holne get worked like.
Speaker 4 (24:18):
That in two. YEARS i know we Like Jamir gibbs a.
Lot this stat blew my.
Speaker 8 (24:22):
Mind so he had to pick up the blitz a
lot Because minnesota And flora's are. Blitzing he had to
pick up the blitz sixteen. Times seven of them he
gave up. Pressures so basically fifty to. Fifty If Jamiir
gibbs was going to pick up the, blitz, right that
is not a good sign going.
Speaker 4 (24:35):
Forward the, smart good, teams The.
Speaker 8 (24:37):
Rams come playoff, time are going to see that and be, like,
Hey gibbs can't blitz pick up the colder the weather.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Dads.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
Okay the closer we get Toward thanksgiving and, beyond coaching
matters a. Lot everybody now has all sorts of. Film
all these teams have. Tendencies the margins thin out. Right
the good teams at the trade deadline get a little
better with acquisition. Acquisitions so this is now where coaching.
(25:07):
Matters belichick's best month was Always december And. January his
weakest Was. September so this is and that's been the
question With Dan. Campbell we Know Mike, tomlin by the,
way more of a, motivator wires team so.
Speaker 4 (25:20):
Bad late in the.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
Season you can only motivate and do the Raw ros
stuff for so.
Speaker 4 (25:24):
Long So tomlin's highly.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
Effective and Then december hits and everybody's heard the stories
and the Raw ros, stuff and they're not buttoned.
Speaker 4 (25:32):
Up Scheme.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
Wae that's Why aaron's so valuable to this. Team Is
aaron's good on the.
Speaker 8 (25:36):
Scheme and by the, Way Dan, campbell it just reminded
me listening to. You they had to buy Against washington
and the playoffs come out and get absolutely.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
Just literally the worst game of the. Year so, again
buys don't matter for certain. Coaches, yes let's move on
to The. Rams. COLIN i think you AND i both
like Their Super bowl odds a.
Speaker 8 (25:53):
Lot they had an impressive showing against the safety Careful
Huka naku got diged up McVeigh taking responsibility for calling
an end around in the red.
Speaker 4 (26:03):
Zone here we.
Speaker 14 (26:03):
GO i feel, sick you, know because you know that
that fourth down situation where he's getting kind of a
side shot and he's so good at, that and that's
such an important, situation and you're, saying, damn you know
you you leave him susceptible to a great player pursuing
from an inside out location that gives him a good.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
Shot so that's not on anything. Him that's more on
the play.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
Call and, YEAH i think the game of the. Week
by the way he, Listened pooka gets banged. UP i
also Think i'm not he's tough.
Speaker 4 (26:32):
Though he's Like brandon ayuk out a.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
Year, no, no, no, no, no he's even weeks like super physical.
Speaker 4 (26:37):
Players this got. Tough i'm gonna tell you something right.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
Now my my Inclination niners keep it close division. Rival
by the, way with The rams, ascending this game arguably
means more to The.
Speaker 4 (26:49):
Niners, Well niners beat him last. Time, well that's Why.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
I'm saying The niners need to sweep this series to
be a playoff. Team rams. Don't, yeah look at The
rams schedule going.
Speaker 8 (27:00):
FORWARD i can't do anything with The niners UNTIL i
know injury. Situation But i'll tell you, this if they
can't Pressure stafford and he's sitting back there in a
tuxedo throwing, passes they're not stopping this. Offense SO i
cannot wait for this. GAME i don't Think i'm gonna bet,
it BUT.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
I look at That rams. Schedule got a Couple arizonas.
Speaker 4 (27:17):
Late ca no oh, no not To Kobe. Vers, No
i'm saying The.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
Rams if You're San, francisco you have to beat them
now because The rams got a lot of laps down the.
Speaker 4 (27:29):
Stretch that is.
Speaker 8 (27:30):
Interesting final, Story colin is The Pittsburgh. Steelers, yes we
gotta say nice things about.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
Them.
Speaker 4 (27:36):
Colin big win over the league Leading.
Speaker 8 (27:38):
Colts before the, Game pittsburgh honored Their Super bowl forty
champs And Ben roethlisberger was in, attendance as well As Jerome.
Metis the bus after the, game listen to What Aaron rodgers,
said major praise For Big.
Speaker 9 (27:51):
Ben i've Known ben for years and years and, years
going back to you, know the early tie, days and
BUT i enjoyed watching player with, years you, know because
he wasn't the fastest, guy but he's hard to take.
Down he's always swinging that ball, around h keeping the
keeping the plays. Alive and it's. Fun this is you,
know this is a Big Big ben. Team you. Know
i'm just happy to be be a part of the.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
Organization though this game IS i have no. Play first of,
All joe all out for the, year so you GOT.
Tj watt on the end and The chargers are missing
both their. Tackles how is this line?
Speaker 4 (28:23):
Three what AM i? MISSING i do you talk?
Speaker 3 (28:26):
About i've said that's about The texans this week when
they Played who did The texans play this?
Speaker 4 (28:31):
Week?
Speaker 3 (28:31):
DENVER i, said stay. AWAY i have no beat on.
IT i still think IF. C. J stroud doesn't get knocked,
Out texans probably could win that. GAME i have no.
BEAT i have not The chargers are a team this
year because of their tackle. Situation i've rarely put him
in the blazing. Five both their tackles got hurt against The.
Titans well Of herbert got dropp dropped five.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
Times.
Speaker 8 (28:51):
Colin someone's telling me that this could be a spot
where seventy percent of the audience.
Speaker 4 (28:59):
Is so Far Pittsburgh.
Speaker 8 (29:00):
Steelers oh, yeah it's gonna be a tough, one big
week out here IN.
Speaker 4 (29:03):
La you got so far For.
Speaker 8 (29:05):
Chargers you GOT usc at home On. FRIDAY i may
go to that GAME Usc Northwestern wemby in. Town you
got The World series wrapped.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
Up good time to BE i said it. Yesterday there's
no reason to tear down the parade. Route there'll be
a couple more teams going through. It In Los. Angeles
it's a good time to be AN la sports. Fan
it really is good, ownership smart. OWNERSHIP J mack with
a News, well that's the, news.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
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Line sometimes there's a big story AND i don't think
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Speaker 3 (30:10):
CAUSE i love that. Support my Buddy Matt mosley's a cowboy.
Insider he's been doing The doomsday podcast. FOREVER i bring
him on the, volume very plugged, in incredibly. Honest he
is now joining us live from an undisclosed location and
probably a nice suburban.
Speaker 4 (30:24):
Neighborhood that's my. Guess mostly that's where you're at right.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
Now by the, way you don't have to pat me
on the back or, anything But i'm playing hurt, today
But i'm gonna it's gonna be a quality.
Speaker 4 (30:33):
Start i'm gonna go six.
Speaker 3 (30:34):
Innings so there's no reason to throw any sympathy my
way BECAUSE i know you would do the same. Thing
but how are You let's, Start let's start after that?
Debacle how are, You matt doing?
Speaker 10 (30:44):
Fine, yeah you're No. Yamamoto you're not going to go
the distance in this, one.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
Buddy it is great to be with, you and got.
Speaker 10 (30:54):
A couple hours of sleep last night after Another cowboys just.
Mess and you thought this thing was going to be
hover around five. Hundred this thing looks so bad right.
NOW i DON'T i don't know if they ever touched
five hundred. AGAIN i, mean it's really.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
Bad we've Watched Sean, Payton Mike, rabele And Jim harbaugh
take bigger messes Than. Dallas mike McCarthy did not Leave
dallas a. Mess the offense was, fine But jerry, goes you,
Know jerry goes discount, coach WHICH i don't. Understand when
you're a ten billion dollar, organization you're paying the, coach you,
(31:32):
know thirty percent below the going rate for a top,
coach or maybe fifty percent.
Speaker 4 (31:35):
Below you talk to me about this one. Time why is?
Speaker 10 (31:39):
That, well he doesn't Respect and it goes all the
way back To jimmy when he said he, Could, hey you,
know any coach could lead this team to the Super.
Bowl and he just hates the only time he spit
big and brought in a huge name With Bill, parcells
and he's admitted that that was to get that stadium.
(31:59):
Built so you, know the thought Like Ben johnson At
chicago in his first time as a head coach is
making somewhere in what the eleven to thirteen million dollars
a year, Range that just that's that Sickens. Jerry he
can't the thought of a guy who's never done it.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
Making that much.
Speaker 10 (32:16):
Money even to this, day even him being a billionaire
and talking to The Wall Street journal about how he
just made a billion dollar bet on natural, gas that's
that still kills. Him so there's just not the respect.
LEVEL i think every time there's A cowboys, opening you, think,
oh could he go back To Sean, paton could he
go To, harbor could he go to somebody? Big could
he go To? Belichick? No, no those people are too
(32:39):
strong of. Personalities you always have to find A shottenheimer
who makes him feel. Comfortable and then you see, AGAIN
i don't put a lot of this On Brian, schottenheimer
but it's it's a it's very embarrassing what he's ended up.
With and he left this defensive coordinator in this head
coach with no pass, rush no run, defense no SECONDARY i,
(33:03):
mean it's a it's a bad, thing but but that's the.
Deal he's just there's an utter sort of lack of
respect for for all of coaching to which is why
he just rolls through him and has a new defensive
coordinator every. Year there's no, continuity like in a in a,
sense he's sort of the Anti, steelers which is like
(33:25):
that family's all about. Continuity maybe too much about, continuity But,
Jerry jerry can't do.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
That he's he loves to make.
Speaker 10 (33:33):
Changes and point at all the shiny new things and
like even, today you know what was he doing?
Speaker 2 (33:38):
Yesterday we got a? Trade we got a? Trade watch our?
Trade who is?
Speaker 10 (33:41):
It, Okay Logan wills another aging linebacker to go along
with other aging linebackers on the team that can't, tackle
AND i Mean Logan wilson got, Benched SO i, MEAN
i don't know is this supposed to Inspire cowboys?
Speaker 2 (33:56):
FANS i don't think.
Speaker 3 (33:57):
So so you, Know i've said they don't need a
quarterback and they have two first round. Picks there's a
lot of us that believe on the outside That. Jerry you,
know a lot of times there's a sense that the
owner has Like Steve bushati In, baltimore really does have
a lot of say with, personnel but he hides he
doesn't need the vanity of, it but he. Does he
(34:19):
makes a lot of decisions In, baltimore but he doesn't
put himself out. There and then there's other owners like
The hunt family that let their guys run the. Show
they have two first round picks next. Year how much
of an impact Does jerry have on? Those is It
steven or is It Jerry who's going to get? EMOTIONAL i,
mean does he make the vinyl call on those?
Speaker 10 (34:38):
Picks he always has the final, say although he can
be talked out of. Things, famously there was The Johnny
man's right he wanted, him he was upset that And
steven basically jumped in front of that when and wouldn't
let him do, that and they ended up with guy's
going to be in The hall Of fame as a
(34:58):
as offensive. Lineman so he does have the final, say
he does listen to people more than you would Think will,
McLay who's a real good personnel.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
MAN i, mean and they hit on some.
Speaker 10 (35:11):
PICKS i mean there's really there's really no reason to
think that with four first round picks over the next
two years that they're.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
Just going to like whiff on them. All they don't do.
Speaker 10 (35:20):
That it's more about like getting to the season never,
prepared you. Know and then of course this, famously infamously
he let this thing With micah get, personal AND i,
mean you know you saw the result last.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
NIGHT i mean you Saw Jacoby, Brissett.
Speaker 10 (35:38):
Like IF i read off the quarterbacks they've played this
season and even the last two years with this, defense
like they've gotten lucky a. Lot they either knock a
quarterback out or get to play a second, round or
get to play a. Backup and these guys still throw
all over. THEM i, mean they they're, lucky and they
still can't they still can't take advantage of. IT i
mean you had, thought, Oh Jacoby, brissett That's jerry told
(36:00):
me last. Night he's, like, WELL i was so glad
he was very upfront with. ME i was, LIKE i,
mean you thought you caught a break Avoiding Kyler. Murray he's,
like you're, RIGHT i thought this was going to be
a good. Thing last Night jerry was just. LOST i
kind of feel Like jerry is going into this buy
like looking for somebody to, Fire LIKE i don't know
who it's going to, be but like he's he had
(36:23):
that kind of look in his, eye like because he's
never going to fire. Himself so he has to do
other things and do things that grab. Attention and he
hates the thought of not playing because he won't be
able to.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
Talk he won't be able TO i, Mean i'm, serious
you'll do some.
Speaker 10 (36:38):
SHOWS i mean, literally if you wanted him on this, Afternoon,
colin he'd jump on with. YOU i mean, seriously he
would find the nearest laptop and jump on with. You
he cannot stand the bye week because he's out of
the picture for a, week and so like he'll do
something this weekend during the, games whether it's a, firing
whether it's a position coach getting thrown, overboard he'll do
(37:00):
something because right, now that's how much he craves, attention
because he knows the team is in really bad.
Speaker 3 (37:05):
Shape, OKAY i want to ask you a question before
we go On Arch. Manning he had a great game
and again a lot of build. Up, SORRY i Mean texas,
coaches if they lose a, game they're always on the hot.
Seat where Is texas now in terms of potential?
Speaker 4 (37:20):
Playoff Arch?
Speaker 3 (37:21):
Manning what is the feel in your state On Arch
sark going forward rest of this?
Speaker 10 (37:27):
Year, WELL i THINK i think it's back up over
like thirty percent chance of getting. IN i, Mean i'm
glad after all the heat he, took the he's playing
a little bit.
Speaker 2 (37:38):
BETTER i, mean it is.
Speaker 10 (37:39):
Funny we've come to a point now where we're squeaking
out a win At vandy at home is some kind
of amazing. Thing but Then Clark lee's done a good
job With. Vandy i'm just glad to see that he's
actually making some, froe playing with some. Confidence and so,
yeah they're in the. MIX i, mean the funny thing is.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
They're they're this.
Speaker 10 (37:58):
Year they're the little brother Little brother in the, state
right and they host they Host TEXAS a AND m
to finish this season on The friday night After thanksgiving and.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
More that's gonna be.
Speaker 10 (38:07):
Fun because that's going to be a massive crowd and
the The aggies.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
Could come in there with such a.
Speaker 10 (38:13):
Swagger there you, Know, Indiana, Ohio, STATE a AND. M
that's the those are the three and they're above everybody.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
Else, ALABAMA i, guess is not far.
Speaker 10 (38:22):
Behind but Now texas Is texas is a couple of
tiers behind. That but if they, well If texas keeps
winning AND a AND m keeps, winning that right there
a massive in state rivalry that had a few years,
off that's gonna be that's gonna be.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
Great and uh.
Speaker 10 (38:39):
And, honestly that's the coach That Mike oko is not
getting enough. Attention that's the coach In texas right. Now
that Is it's. Remarkable it's like The aggies have stumbled
into getting the right, coach the de man for the.
Moment and uh, yeah but that that could end up
being an incredible. Matchup BUT i think people are back to,
thinking Oh, texas look.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
At, that look at.
Speaker 10 (39:01):
That BUT i would, say LIKE a AND m right,
now playoff, wise they're, in, right they're ninety seven percent
in Where texas has still got Some they got a
lot of stuff to accomplish before they get in.
Speaker 3 (39:13):
There all, Right Matt, Mosley Cowboy Insider Doom Day. PODCAST
i appreciate, It. Matt we have some breaking. News i'm
going to get to my. Man thank you very. Much
as always late noticetopping by The.
Speaker 2 (39:23):
Herd you bet good to be with.
Speaker 3 (39:25):
You here we, Go Adam. Schefter we've GOT nfl it's
the trade. Deadline this is. Pricey The colts are trading
two first round picks to The New York jets to
Get Sauce. Gardner, NOW i, mean the cultu are a
very good. Team this weekend they get, hammered and their takeaway, is,
listen we got our, roster we got our, quarterback we
got OUR o, line we Got, warren we Got, pittman
(39:47):
we Have.
Speaker 4 (39:48):
Taylor we don't have a we don't have a.
Speaker 3 (39:50):
Corner so they're gonna say the culture, saying, listen we got.
Speaker 4 (39:53):
The, roster we got the, coach we got. Everything we
don't have a.
Speaker 3 (39:56):
CORNER i will also tell you there is a feeling
AMONG nfl execus there is a corner shortage in the.
League everybody has a second or third good. Receiver nobody
has a second good. Corner many teams don't have a
good first, Corner so SAFTGUARD i gotta give The jets
credit on this two first round. Picks so The jets
now like The Dallas. Cowboys the difference is The jets
(40:18):
need a. Quarterback so The jets are mailing in the.
Season they're going to have two first round. Picks next
couple of, years they're gonna go get a. Quarterback and
the reason they're doing this is if they end up
with a second best record and they really love a,
quarterback maybe you move up one spot to get the
guy you. Want so The jets are giving Up saftgardner
for two first round. Picks The seahawks Also Tom, pelasaro
(40:42):
are going to Get Rashid Sahed he's a speed. Receiver
The Sammy darnold baby just got another receiver to go WITH.
Jsn The saints are sending their speed. Receiver he's an
over the top guy to The. Seahawks Uh Ian rapaport
And Tom, pelosorrow.
Speaker 4 (41:02):
Guys nice job on.
Speaker 3 (41:03):
That SO i, MEAN i Thought seattle's receiving corps was already.
Good js and we talked about this. Yesterday is he
a top two to three receiver in the. League now
they had a speed receiver. Again now you're you're forcing
safeties to play differently against and Sam donold's got a big.
Arm donald is a big play. Quarterback they just added
(41:26):
a big play wide. Receiver how good is? This how
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Speaker 4 (00:48):
I gotta tell you, I am this is fascinating to me.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
So you and I think both we like business, you know,
we kind of into it, like especially the sports business.
It's amazing to me what people go cheap on. Like
I've always said, like in life, transportation, toilet paper and
quarterbacks don't go cheap. You know, you can go cheap
on paper, towelsand water. But it's amazing to me the
Dallas Cowboys are worth ten billion dollars. Now think about that,
(01:17):
So wouldn't you be willing to spend like more than
four or five million on the head coach. I mean,
I used to be critical of Dak Prescott. I'm sympathetic
for Dak Prescott. I feel bad for him. He needs
a life preserver. He's drowning with this team. The head
coaching staff for Dallas, it's just suboptimal. Bad night, no energy,
(01:40):
no juice. Offensive line got humiliated. Third most penalized team
in the league. I mean, they haven't won a game
where they didn't score thirty seven plus point second straight year.
The defense is thirty first. I mean, I feel bad
for Dak. The NFL has far more poorly run teams
than well run teams. We all know the good ones
(02:01):
Seattle and Green Bay and Detroit and Baltimore and Buffalo
and Kansas City. We know the well run teams. When
I watched the Dallas Cowboys last night getting hammered at
home by a journeyman NFL quarterback, Dallas is a lot
closer to the Saints and the Titans and the Jets.
I mean, even right now, the Panthers have a pulse.
(02:21):
The Panthers beat Dallas this year, but I mean they
prioritize the wrong stuff. They won't spend money on a
big time coach. Folks, Mike Vrabel first year, eight nine
games in, they're a playoff team. Sean Payton most dead
cap money in league history. Doesn't matter playoffs for the
rookie quarterback. Jim Harbaugh took over a shipwreck playoff team.
(02:46):
I mean, you gotta pay him nineteen million bucks a year,
eighteen million a year, and you gotta give them power
in some control in personnel, and Jerry won't do it.
But the longer Brian Schottenheimer's the head coach, it's like,
we've all had a bad manager.
Speaker 5 (03:00):
Ian.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
I've been very, very lucky in my life. I've had
almost singularly great management. But we've all had a bad
boss somewhere. And the longer the bad boss is the boss,
the worse it gets. It's bad in the first month,
it's terrible after six months, and after a year you're like,
we need a new boss. But you could have had
Sean Payton, he used to be an assistant there.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
You could have had Rabel.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
I mean, you had a lot of opportunities, but you
got to spend twenty million.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
Dollars, but they're not willing to do it.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
Here's the other thing that I noticed with Dallas is
that you can't have any conditions in the NFL with winning.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
Bill Belichick was done.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
When Bill Belichick said, there's just I only want to
coach certain players. When Bill Belichick said that, Bro, you're done.
You got to coach the best players, even if some
of them aren't perfect human beings. They're young kids, they
make a lot of money, they make mistakes. You can't
have conditions. Jerry has conditions. He's willing to win if
(04:00):
he has a say and he has control. That is
not the NFL. This isn't college football where there's like
the Ohio State roster is better than almost every team
they play every week.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
That's not the way. It is.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
A backup. Jacoby Brissett, he's been on six teams, the
Patriots twice walked into your building and rolled you. That's
because you have conditions. Belichick had conditions. You can't do
it that way. And the other thing is when Jimmy
Johnson was there and Parcels, there was friction. Friction's great,
(04:34):
it's how It creates clarity. Jimmy doesn't want friction from
his coach. He wants Jason Garrett, he wants Mike McCarthy,
he wants Brian Schottenheimer, he wants comfort. So the two
things you can't do as an owner in this league
is seek comfort with your coach. The good ones are
gonna push you off sometimes. The good ones are gonna
(04:54):
have an opinion. The good ones are gonna want to
have a say. I mean Brian Schottenheimer. You saw that
pickings penalty last night. He didn't want part of the friction.
And the other thing is you can't have conditions in
this league. I mean I for years I was tough
on Dak Prescott. I feel terrible for the guy. I
do I will acknowledge. I do think eventually the Mica
(05:17):
trade a year, you know, eight months from now, in
April or whatever it is, that will pay off. But
that that thing last night, that Dallas looked a lot
closer to the Titans and the Jets than they did
the Rams of the Eagles, of the Ravens and the Bills.
And here is Dak Prescott.
Speaker 6 (05:34):
After knowing that you're better than that, and going out
there not and putting a performance close to your standard
or even the expectations or what you thought you could
do and expect it to do against this team. And
credit to those guys. That's the beauty of the NFL
games play stats. None of that's done on paper. You've
got to go out there and you've got to earn
(05:54):
it that that night with everything taken into account, and
they kicked our and both sides of the ball.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
Yeah, I mean, unbelievable. Here's the other thing. Sean Payton
used to be. You know, he was coaching on the
Cowboys on the offensive side. He left the Cowboys in
two thousand and six. And again, I know Sean pretty well. Okay,
Sean's got an opinion. Shaan's not easy. Sean is a
good guy. But Shawn's got an opinion. Bill Parcells has
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an opinion. Jimmy Johnson has an opinion. They're gonna make
life uncomfortable. They're gonna confront you. Sean Payton's got an
eye and Jimmy, Sean and Parcells may in my opinion,
have the best sense of personnel. Those guys like are
really good on personnel. A lot of coaches aren't. And
he read admits that's not his thing. Some guys are
play designers and play callers. Those guys are personnel guys. Jimmy,
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Jimmy knows personnel, maybe as good as any coach that's
ever now. Jim Harball, right out of college, also knows personnel.
Peyton's good with personnel. You are all banging on that
Harvey pick up in the second round. He's really good.
And they got dead cap money everywhere, and he's banging.
He's hitting and hitting and hitting and hitting with his
GM on these players. But Peyton left in two thousand
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and six. Since then, and by the way, he went
to the worst team in the league. So Sean Payne
went to the worst team in the league, and then
he went to Denver with the worst dead cap money.
Sean Payne's got nine playoff wins since then. Jerah has four.
You gotta seek discomfort in any business now. Jerry, to
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his credit, is acknowledging it. But listen carefully. After last
night's embarrassing debacle, there's enough.
Speaker 5 (07:40):
Of tensity here really, you don't have to add just
anger to it. I don't know where that feeling is.
It's somewhere. I'm pretty frustrated, right now with how we
got here, my decision making relative to the things that
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go ONWN. You know the way we dial it up
here and there's no dodging looking at in the mirror.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
Appreciate the candor, appreciate the honesty, but it is a
mirror is what they need.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
That was embarrassing.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
And I got to say this for Jacoby Brissett, and
I love these reclamation stories, I really do. I remember
years and years ago Parcels was telling everybody, I love
this kid named Jacoby Brissette. I love him. He's just
a pro. I really appreciate football players. They may not
be stars, but they love the game and they bounce
around the league. And Jacoby Brissett, by the way, they
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are six point better in Arizona when he plays over
Kyler Murray.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
It's been a bad year for small quarterbacks.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
Russell Wilson, Tua and Kyler Murray since twenty nineteen have
one playoff win. And people were trying to convince me
a Johnny Manzell, and I said, get out of here,
and Dylan Gabriel get out of here. Jacobyset, Oh what
a shock. Marvin Harrison on the same day complained he
couldn't watch Arizona's offense because his son wasn't getting the ball.
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Marvin Harrison as his best game as a pro and
the best move in the red zone by any receiver
this year.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
So I got nothing against Kyler Murray. I've met him.
I like him.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
I think he's the most elusive young quarterback I've ever seen,
even more so than Russell Wilson. And I bought into it,
but you know, we got five years here. He hadn't
been a pro bowler, he hadn't had a passer rating
over one hundred.
Speaker 4 (09:28):
And here's the thing.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
I don't think he loves football, and I don't think
that's a hot take. I'm the owner of Arizona, I
know the former GM. I think he's super talented, but
this has been a referendum year. Size matters. I'm looking
at all these college quarterbacks. Mendoza six', Five Dante moore
six two and a, half sixty, three these college. Quarterbacks
the old Mis kid's, good small but, good but most
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of them are six one and a, half six two
and a, half six three and a.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
Half and that's the. Key we've tried to.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
Convince ourselves that size doesn't. Matter but when you got
McBride And harris and you need to deliver the ball
over the middle of the, field those guys need the ball.
Speaker 4 (10:04):
On the run.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
Underneath AND i, MEAN i Just i'm watching him last.
NIGHT i Think arizona reminds me Of indianapolis last. Year
everybody was crushing the coach in THE gm AND i see.
TALENT i Think arizona's got. Dudes i've been saying this
for two.
Speaker 4 (10:20):
Years Like. Colts The colts have.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
Dudes they didn't have a, quarterback so you Put Jacoby brissett,
in who's a bounce around the league, journeyman Just Jacoby,
brissett and they're worth almost a touchdown more a. GAME
i mean it feels, like now here's THE i will,
Say Kyler murray is. Movable you don't have to pay.
Him there's no guaranteed. MONEY i, think is it after next?
(10:43):
Year there's no guaranteed. Money so he's, movable AND i
don't think the BEST gms in the legue will go after.
Him but he's super. Talented you, know if you're in
chaos or you're, desperate you'll go get. Him but the coach,
says after that really impressive, win on the row standalone
game That brissette was, Good But kyler's the.
Speaker 7 (11:04):
GUY i thought he played, well thought he. Operated we
had one protection issue that's on me us. Coaches we've
got to do a better job with that with some.
Protection and then on, one you, know, sack they made
it a little adjustment with the play that were. In
it was a good job By flu to make the adjustment.
There SO i just got to keep him clean and
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he shows how you can deliver the.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
Football, Well kyler's still be your stating quarterback from Your.
Giant nothing's changed on.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
That, yeah nothing's changed except the. Results who are we fooling?
Here you got to stop, PROTECTING i mean you really.
Speaker 4 (11:40):
Do it's you, know it's like In.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
INDIANAPOLIS i feel Like i'm watching The colts WHERE i
for two YEARS i kept Defending Chris.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
Ballard i'm watching the.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
GAMES i like their, players they just don't have the
guy to distribute it accurately. Enough and we've been five
years here with the passer rating under one, hundred and
it just seemed like to, Me Jacoby brissett unlocks that
offense a little.
Speaker 4 (12:02):
Bit so there you, go J.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
MAC i there are some THINGS i cannot get over
heard hierarchy at the top of next.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
HOUR i don't know what to do with The.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
PACKERS i don't know WHAT i don't know what to
do With Kansas.
Speaker 8 (12:16):
City do The packers have the widest range of outcomes this?
Season they could lose in the first, round they could
win The.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
Super you know WHAT i was saying to the staff
this morning through this nasally, voice is That Matt lafleur
reminds me a little Of Lincoln riley AT. USC i
think they're both really. SMART i think THEY'RE i think
they love to run the ball. FIRST i think they're
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very good at developing. Quarterbacks but SOMETIMES i, question With Lincoln,
riley what's the identity OF usc? Football and with right
now with Green, bay what is my?
Speaker 4 (12:54):
Question?
Speaker 3 (12:55):
What what are The packers they? Got, dudes don't tell
Me greena didn't have, talent AND i don't want to
hear they're. Young seattle's almost as, young And seattle's on a.
Heater seattle looks, like honestly a top three or four
team in the.
Speaker 8 (13:08):
League they Got arizona this week in what is a scary,
game right Because seattle looks like the best team in The.
League what has happened to all the quarterbacks of the
best teams in the league.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
The last like four?
Speaker 8 (13:16):
Weeks baker, loses, Right Daniel jones, Loses Patrick mahones. Loses
Think seattle's got to be on upset alert this week
against suddenly Mighty. Arizona huh which A Kobe brissett under center.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
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Speaker 3 (14:07):
Subscribe you know what's amazing about The National Football league
is in, baseball if you like a, guy you like a.
Guy generally you're, Like, okay he's twenty four he's got
a good. Arm you're, like, yeah like he's gonna give
us twenty eight good.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
Stars he's a good.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
Pitcher he may not Be, Clayton kershaw Or, yoshi but
he's a good. Pitcher same in, basketball you like a
guy or you. Don't very rarely do you change your
opinion quickly on AN nba player or A Major League baseball.
Player football is different because of the component of the
regulated level of violence is that you can like a,
guy but if he's always, hurt he doesn't do you any.
Good Like Malik neighbors for The New York giants is.
(14:43):
Good he's hurt too. Much he's not a top ten.
RECEIVER i don't care how talented he. Is he's hurt too.
Much AND i was thinking about. This Ben johnson was
talking About Caleb. Williams if you asked me a year
ago this, QUESTION i have a totally different. Answer but
if you told me, TODAY i have got a, ride
ride or die for the next four to five years
With Caleb williams of The bears Or Jaden, DANIELS i
(15:06):
would Take Caleb. Williams, well How jaden's been hurt four.
Times jayden's not Available caleb is a, bigger, stronger more,
physical trunkier. Athlete and, so by the, Way Jaden DANIELS
nfl career thirty three, touchdowns eleven. Picks you want to
know What CALEB'S nfl career, is thirty two, touchdowns ten.
Picks and the difference Is Jaden daniels walked into this
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league and it was a do. Over there was all
this newness IN dc and he was part of. It
it was, fresh it was, new it was. Ascending that's
not what happened For Caleb. Williams he walked into the
middle of a home renovation and they were on the
second project. Manager it wasn't going well, okay like there
were holes. Everywhere there was some fraud going on the home.
(15:51):
Renovation matty Eber flus and his cartoon coaching.
Speaker 4 (15:53):
Staff that's what he.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
Inherited and Remember caleb did not start nearly as many
games As Jayden. Daniels Caleb williams came in very Very
he had twenty two fewer starts Than Jayden.
Speaker 4 (16:05):
Daniels So jayden comes in with a lot more.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
Starts he's in THE, sec has MORE nfl, bodies and
then he gets this Cliff kingsbury And Dan quinn in
the newness And terry. McLaurin but now you look today
and you got a ride or die and you're, Like
caleb dunn't tony. Picks caleb's always. Healthy he's a, bigger,
thicker stronger. Athlete AND i, mean right, now The, bears
(16:30):
this is the Best bears offense since nineteen.
Speaker 4 (16:32):
Eighty three through nine.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
Games and we can nitpick, here but the kid has
developed a relationship With Roma. Dunze right, now they're number
one in THE nfl in big plays per.
Speaker 4 (16:45):
Game it's A Sam donald. Thing it's An Andrew luck.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
Thing people used to pick it And Andrew luck because
of the, picks and they'd pick On Sam. Darnold Sam
donald is a big play. Quarterback he is a big play.
Quarterback Caleb williams same. Thing it's not always he can
miss the. Layups he's not highly accurate all the. Time
but it's just in THE nfl my. OPINION i, mean
(17:09):
Like Drake may at the end of last, year you're, like,
yeah there's something. There then four games in With, vrabel you're, like,
oh that's a star like. That that is a top
seven quarterback in the. League, eventually and that's what football
does to. Us AND i Like Jayden daniels a, lot
but now we got four injuries in two. Years and
that was the primary concern With Jaden daniels in. College
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So i've said this many. Times when the primary concern
in college becomes the primary concern in THE, nfl you got.
Speaker 4 (17:39):
Trouble.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
Now caleb's primary issue is he doesn't play in. Structure,
Well axley's playing more in structure and he's cut his
sacks in, half so he's doing a better. JOB i
don't think he's a super accurate. Guy he'll get, better
but he's a Little Cam newton. Here he's just got
so much damn firepower and so much horsepower that sometimes
he's so amped up he'll miss the. Layups But Ben
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johnson on that wild win over The, bengals he said
that was an offensive.
Speaker 11 (18:06):
Win there were times this year THAT i felt like
we won in spite of the, offense and this was
probably the first TIME i felt like the offense had
had a big say in us winning that, game and
so that was that was encouraging to, me just for that.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
Phase and it's not necessarily flip. Floppy there is A
there's a difference between you, know a dog ate my,
homework that's an, excuse or, yeah somebody t boned the
school bus on the. Way the kids were all. Late
they're all, okay but they were late to. School that's.
Different the reality is With caleb is fewer college starts
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goes To chicago hot mess of a coaching. Staff that's
a that's a real bonafide reason for. Struggling But i'm
watching him right, now and if you had to give
one word description of every one of the young quarterbacks
For Drake, may you would say, Hit Bo, nicks HIT jj,
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McCarthy somewhere between shaky and, Undetermined MICHAEL pennockx. Unsure caleb
kind of feels like a. Hit it's not always, pretty
but it's trending. There Danny parkins talked about this yesterday
(19:27):
on our.
Speaker 12 (19:27):
Show he had to go through Firing Matt eberflus and
Firing Shane waldron and the whole fiasco of last. Year
but they upgraded the offensive, line they upgraded his, weapons
they upgraded his, coach who happened to also be his play,
caller and he's seeing.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
Growth you mentioned the.
Speaker 12 (19:41):
Sacks he has what fourteen sacks taken in eight. Weeks
he took sixty eight sacks last. YEAR i don't need
to give you anything else beyond that and its.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
Improvement caleb's a.
Speaker 12 (19:53):
Gamer that's his third come from behind drive in the
fourth quarter in his last five. Games so is he
perfect or a finished? Product far from. It but he's
really talented and he's getting better week by.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
WEEK.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
Yep Heard hierarchy top Of Next hour With nick Right
Matt mosley talking some cowboys.
Speaker 4 (20:11):
Before the end of this.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
HOUR a lot of stuff, today but it kind of
feels like we're trending toward a. HIT i know it's,
early but there are times when you get a bad.
Boss it's your first job out of, college, right and
maybe your son or daughter you're, listening you're a. Dad
the first job out of college is the company's not real,
good and you're maybe your son or daughters a little.
Immature they definitely, need you, know a really nice landing
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spot in their first, job and they don't get. It
you can't bail on. PEOPLE i, Mean Sam darnold's a
great example of. That Baker mayfield be very careful about
bailing on quarterbacks in a league where there's never been
more good offensive, coaching And caleb finally got. Some it
was a second, coach but he finally got.
Speaker 4 (20:51):
SOME J mack with the. News, no, no.
Speaker 5 (20:55):
Turn on the.
Speaker 8 (20:55):
News this is the herdline. News let's go that Right
lyons lost to The. Vikings come and they were coming
out of the bye. Week they were considered one of
the better teams in the, league and they kind of
got smashed at home By. Minnesota Jared goff got beat
up badly talking to the media after the. Game Dan
campbell took responsibility for the team's lack of.
Speaker 13 (21:15):
Preparedness we did everything we needed to do to uh
to lose that. Game we made every critical airy you
needed to at the right time to lose.
Speaker 5 (21:25):
It perfect.
Speaker 13 (21:26):
Storm you, know when you don't play well in all three,
phases that falls on the head. Coach that's. Me SO
i did not have him ready coming out of a
Bye you know we. Weren't we made too many cretical.
Speaker 5 (21:40):
Errors.
Speaker 13 (21:40):
Man.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
YEAH I detroit's one of my favorite picks of the
week Against, washington a really good team that had a
really bad home loss in. Division you know what we always,
say like like commanders now trade, deadline what's the commander's
locker room like, Today knowing ten guys in that locker
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room are not sure the team wants to keep. Them
that's not a good week of practice for the commander's old.
Speaker 4 (22:09):
Team beat.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
UP i mean for the next several, hours their commander
players talking to their agents' wives LIKE i may be
out of. Town So detroit's got a, galvanized, focused angry locker.
Room the commanders is all sorts of, questions, enigmatic and
players don't know if they'll be with the commanders in an.
Speaker 4 (22:27):
Hour so let me.
Speaker 8 (22:28):
Focus, Yeah washington's. Cooked let's focus on The lions for a.
Second so we've seen this. Season i'll have some data
for you later in the. Week teams coming off Of
by this season have, roared they've, ripped they've been. Amazing
we just saw The cardinals come off of buy and
just they were dominant for three plus.
Speaker 4 (22:44):
Quarters The rams off Of by.
Speaker 8 (22:46):
Unbelievable why did Didn't campbell flop so badly off a?
Speaker 2 (22:50):
Bike is he?
Speaker 3 (22:51):
Okay so, no, no, no, No he's a total. Grinder
so this is a very legitimate. Question there are two
types of code coaches in THE, nfl primarily.
Speaker 4 (23:03):
CEOs they're not scheme.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
Gurus shanahan is Okay, Shanahan Andy, reid they're great schemes and.
CEOs when you give the scheme guys like McVeigh an extra,
week it Is Sean.
Speaker 4 (23:17):
Payton you're.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
Cooked but if you give the, CEOs the, yellers the
guys that are mostly about physiology and psychology and, presence
what do they do with the extra. Time so my
feeling is there are certain. TEAMS i love offensive coaches
off a bye IF i think they're scheme guys because
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they'll bring in six new. Looks but if it's just,
hey you, Know Mike tomlin's not a scheme, guys a,
Motivator Dan campbell same, thing there's nothing wrong with. That
BUT i think if you look At detroit and you're,
like well what? Happened, WELL i mean the truth is
the intensity is the key For Dan campbell and in
the bye week lost. It if you watch that, game
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like The cowboys last night were, flat they were, Flat
detroit was.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
Flat great.
Speaker 8 (24:09):
POINTS a couple of notes, Here Jared goff got pressured thirty.
Speaker 4 (24:13):
Times oh, no, no, No.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
Zack Five Ti.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
CRAB i haven't Seen detroit's holne get worked like.
Speaker 4 (24:18):
That in two. YEARS i know we Like Jamir gibbs a.
Lot this stat blew my.
Speaker 8 (24:22):
Mind so he had to pick up the blitz a
lot Because minnesota And flora's are. Blitzing he had to
pick up the blitz sixteen. Times seven of them he
gave up. Pressures so basically fifty to. Fifty If Jamiir
gibbs was going to pick up the, blitz, right that
is not a good sign going.
Speaker 4 (24:35):
Forward the, smart good, teams The.
Speaker 8 (24:37):
Rams come playoff, time are going to see that and be, like,
Hey gibbs can't blitz pick up the colder the weather.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Dads.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
Okay the closer we get Toward thanksgiving and, beyond coaching
matters a. Lot everybody now has all sorts of. Film
all these teams have. Tendencies the margins thin out. Right
the good teams at the trade deadline get a little
better with acquisition. Acquisitions so this is now where coaching.
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Matters belichick's best month was Always december And. January his
weakest Was. September so this is and that's been the
question With Dan. Campbell we Know Mike, tomlin by the,
way more of a, motivator wires team so.
Speaker 4 (25:20):
Bad late in the.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
Season you can only motivate and do the Raw ros
stuff for so.
Speaker 4 (25:24):
Long So tomlin's highly.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
Effective and Then december hits and everybody's heard the stories
and the Raw ros, stuff and they're not buttoned.
Speaker 4 (25:32):
Up Scheme.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
Wae that's Why aaron's so valuable to this. Team Is
aaron's good on the.
Speaker 8 (25:36):
Scheme and by the, Way Dan, campbell it just reminded
me listening to. You they had to buy Against washington
and the playoffs come out and get absolutely.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
Just literally the worst game of the. Year so, again
buys don't matter for certain. Coaches, yes let's move on
to The. Rams. COLIN i think you AND i both
like Their Super bowl odds a.
Speaker 8 (25:53):
Lot they had an impressive showing against the safety Careful
Huka naku got diged up McVeigh taking responsibility for calling
an end around in the red.
Speaker 4 (26:03):
Zone here we.
Speaker 14 (26:03):
GO i feel, sick you, know because you know that
that fourth down situation where he's getting kind of a
side shot and he's so good at, that and that's
such an important, situation and you're, saying, damn you know
you you leave him susceptible to a great player pursuing
from an inside out location that gives him a good.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
Shot so that's not on anything. Him that's more on
the play.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
Call and, YEAH i think the game of the. Week
by the way he, Listened pooka gets banged. UP i
also Think i'm not he's tough.
Speaker 4 (26:32):
Though he's Like brandon ayuk out a.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
Year, no, no, no, no, no he's even weeks like super physical.
Speaker 4 (26:37):
Players this got. Tough i'm gonna tell you something right.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
Now my my Inclination niners keep it close division. Rival
by the, way with The rams, ascending this game arguably
means more to The.
Speaker 4 (26:49):
Niners, Well niners beat him last. Time, well that's Why.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
I'm saying The niners need to sweep this series to
be a playoff. Team rams. Don't, yeah look at The
rams schedule going.
Speaker 8 (27:00):
FORWARD i can't do anything with The niners UNTIL i
know injury. Situation But i'll tell you, this if they
can't Pressure stafford and he's sitting back there in a
tuxedo throwing, passes they're not stopping this. Offense SO i
cannot wait for this. GAME i don't Think i'm gonna bet,
it BUT.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
I look at That rams. Schedule got a Couple arizonas.
Speaker 4 (27:17):
Late ca no oh, no not To Kobe. Vers, No
i'm saying The.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
Rams if You're San, francisco you have to beat them
now because The rams got a lot of laps down the.
Speaker 4 (27:29):
Stretch that is.
Speaker 8 (27:30):
Interesting final, Story colin is The Pittsburgh. Steelers, yes we
gotta say nice things about.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
Them.
Speaker 4 (27:36):
Colin big win over the league Leading.
Speaker 8 (27:38):
Colts before the, Game pittsburgh honored Their Super bowl forty
champs And Ben roethlisberger was in, attendance as well As Jerome.
Metis the bus after the, game listen to What Aaron rodgers,
said major praise For Big.
Speaker 9 (27:51):
Ben i've Known ben for years and years and, years
going back to you, know the early tie, days and
BUT i enjoyed watching player with, years you, know because
he wasn't the fastest, guy but he's hard to take.
Down he's always swinging that ball, around h keeping the
keeping the plays. Alive and it's. Fun this is you,
know this is a Big Big ben. Team you. Know
i'm just happy to be be a part of the.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
Organization though this game IS i have no. Play first of,
All joe all out for the, year so you GOT.
Tj watt on the end and The chargers are missing
both their. Tackles how is this line?
Speaker 4 (28:23):
Three what AM i? MISSING i do you talk?
Speaker 3 (28:26):
About i've said that's about The texans this week when
they Played who did The texans play this?
Speaker 4 (28:31):
Week?
Speaker 3 (28:31):
DENVER i, said stay. AWAY i have no beat on.
IT i still think IF. C. J stroud doesn't get knocked,
Out texans probably could win that. GAME i have no.
BEAT i have not The chargers are a team this
year because of their tackle. Situation i've rarely put him
in the blazing. Five both their tackles got hurt against The.
Titans well Of herbert got dropp dropped five.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
Times.
Speaker 8 (28:51):
Colin someone's telling me that this could be a spot
where seventy percent of the audience.
Speaker 4 (28:59):
Is so Far Pittsburgh.
Speaker 8 (29:00):
Steelers oh, yeah it's gonna be a tough, one big
week out here IN.
Speaker 4 (29:03):
La you got so far For.
Speaker 8 (29:05):
Chargers you GOT usc at home On. FRIDAY i may
go to that GAME Usc Northwestern wemby in. Town you
got The World series wrapped.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
Up good time to BE i said it. Yesterday there's
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CAUSE i love that. Support my Buddy Matt mosley's a cowboy.
Insider he's been doing The doomsday podcast. FOREVER i bring
him on the, volume very plugged, in incredibly. Honest he
is now joining us live from an undisclosed location and
probably a nice suburban.
Speaker 4 (30:24):
Neighborhood that's my. Guess mostly that's where you're at right.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
Now by the, way you don't have to pat me
on the back or, anything But i'm playing hurt, today
But i'm gonna it's gonna be a quality.
Speaker 4 (30:33):
Start i'm gonna go six.
Speaker 3 (30:34):
Innings so there's no reason to throw any sympathy my
way BECAUSE i know you would do the same. Thing
but how are You let's, Start let's start after that?
Debacle how are, You matt doing?
Speaker 10 (30:44):
Fine, yeah you're No. Yamamoto you're not going to go
the distance in this, one.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
Buddy it is great to be with, you and got.
Speaker 10 (30:54):
A couple hours of sleep last night after Another cowboys just.
Mess and you thought this thing was going to be
hover around five. Hundred this thing looks so bad right.
NOW i DON'T i don't know if they ever touched
five hundred. AGAIN i, mean it's really.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
Bad we've Watched Sean, Payton Mike, rabele And Jim harbaugh
take bigger messes Than. Dallas mike McCarthy did not Leave
dallas a. Mess the offense was, fine But jerry, goes you,
Know jerry goes discount, coach WHICH i don't. Understand when
you're a ten billion dollar, organization you're paying the, coach you,
(31:32):
know thirty percent below the going rate for a top,
coach or maybe fifty percent.
Speaker 4 (31:35):
Below you talk to me about this one. Time why is?
Speaker 10 (31:39):
That, well he doesn't Respect and it goes all the
way back To jimmy when he said he, Could, hey you,
know any coach could lead this team to the Super.
Bowl and he just hates the only time he spit
big and brought in a huge name With Bill, parcells
and he's admitted that that was to get that stadium.
(31:59):
Built so you, know the thought Like Ben johnson At
chicago in his first time as a head coach is
making somewhere in what the eleven to thirteen million dollars
a year, Range that just that's that Sickens. Jerry he
can't the thought of a guy who's never done it.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
Making that much.
Speaker 10 (32:16):
Money even to this, day even him being a billionaire
and talking to The Wall Street journal about how he
just made a billion dollar bet on natural, gas that's
that still kills. Him so there's just not the respect.
LEVEL i think every time there's A cowboys, opening you, think,
oh could he go back To Sean, paton could he
go To, harbor could he go to somebody? Big could
he go To? Belichick? No, no those people are too
(32:39):
strong of. Personalities you always have to find A shottenheimer
who makes him feel. Comfortable and then you see, AGAIN
i don't put a lot of this On Brian, schottenheimer
but it's it's a it's very embarrassing what he's ended up.
With and he left this defensive coordinator in this head
coach with no pass, rush no run, defense no SECONDARY i,
(33:03):
mean it's a it's a bad, thing but but that's the.
Deal he's just there's an utter sort of lack of
respect for for all of coaching to which is why
he just rolls through him and has a new defensive
coordinator every. Year there's no, continuity like in a in a,
sense he's sort of the Anti, steelers which is like
(33:25):
that family's all about. Continuity maybe too much about, continuity But,
Jerry jerry can't do.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
That he's he loves to make.
Speaker 10 (33:33):
Changes and point at all the shiny new things and
like even, today you know what was he doing?
Speaker 2 (33:38):
Yesterday we got a? Trade we got a? Trade watch our?
Trade who is?
Speaker 10 (33:41):
It, Okay Logan wills another aging linebacker to go along
with other aging linebackers on the team that can't, tackle
AND i Mean Logan wilson got, Benched SO i, MEAN
i don't know is this supposed to Inspire cowboys?
Speaker 2 (33:56):
FANS i don't think.
Speaker 3 (33:57):
So so you, Know i've said they don't need a
quarterback and they have two first round. Picks there's a
lot of us that believe on the outside That. Jerry you,
know a lot of times there's a sense that the
owner has Like Steve bushati In, baltimore really does have
a lot of say with, personnel but he hides he
doesn't need the vanity of, it but he. Does he
(34:19):
makes a lot of decisions In, baltimore but he doesn't
put himself out. There and then there's other owners like
The hunt family that let their guys run the. Show
they have two first round picks next. Year how much
of an impact Does jerry have on? Those is It
steven or is It Jerry who's going to get? EMOTIONAL i,
mean does he make the vinyl call on those?
Speaker 10 (34:38):
Picks he always has the final, say although he can
be talked out of. Things, famously there was The Johnny
man's right he wanted, him he was upset that And
steven basically jumped in front of that when and wouldn't
let him do, that and they ended up with guy's
going to be in The hall Of fame as a
(34:58):
as offensive. Lineman so he does have the final, say
he does listen to people more than you would Think will,
McLay who's a real good personnel.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
MAN i, mean and they hit on some.
Speaker 10 (35:11):
PICKS i mean there's really there's really no reason to
think that with four first round picks over the next
two years that they're.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
Just going to like whiff on them. All they don't do.
Speaker 10 (35:20):
That it's more about like getting to the season never,
prepared you. Know and then of course this, famously infamously
he let this thing With micah get, personal AND i,
mean you know you saw the result last.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
NIGHT i mean you Saw Jacoby, Brissett.
Speaker 10 (35:38):
Like IF i read off the quarterbacks they've played this
season and even the last two years with this, defense
like they've gotten lucky a. Lot they either knock a
quarterback out or get to play a second, round or
get to play a. Backup and these guys still throw
all over. THEM i, mean they they're, lucky and they
still can't they still can't take advantage of. IT i
mean you had, thought, Oh Jacoby, brissett That's jerry told
(36:00):
me last. Night he's, like, WELL i was so glad
he was very upfront with. ME i was, LIKE i,
mean you thought you caught a break Avoiding Kyler. Murray he's,
like you're, RIGHT i thought this was going to be
a good. Thing last Night jerry was just. LOST i
kind of feel Like jerry is going into this buy
like looking for somebody to, Fire LIKE i don't know
who it's going to, be but like he's he had
(36:23):
that kind of look in his, eye like because he's
never going to fire. Himself so he has to do
other things and do things that grab. Attention and he
hates the thought of not playing because he won't be
able to.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
Talk he won't be able TO i, Mean i'm, serious
you'll do some.
Speaker 10 (36:38):
SHOWS i mean, literally if you wanted him on this, Afternoon,
colin he'd jump on with. YOU i mean, seriously he
would find the nearest laptop and jump on with. You
he cannot stand the bye week because he's out of
the picture for a, week and so like he'll do
something this weekend during the, games whether it's a, firing
whether it's a position coach getting thrown, overboard he'll do
(37:00):
something because right, now that's how much he craves, attention
because he knows the team is in really bad.
Speaker 3 (37:05):
Shape, OKAY i want to ask you a question before
we go On Arch. Manning he had a great game
and again a lot of build. Up, SORRY i Mean texas,
coaches if they lose a, game they're always on the hot.
Seat where Is texas now in terms of potential?
Speaker 4 (37:20):
Playoff Arch?
Speaker 3 (37:21):
Manning what is the feel in your state On Arch
sark going forward rest of this?
Speaker 10 (37:27):
Year, WELL i THINK i think it's back up over
like thirty percent chance of getting. IN i, Mean i'm
glad after all the heat he, took the he's playing
a little bit.
Speaker 2 (37:38):
BETTER i, mean it is.
Speaker 10 (37:39):
Funny we've come to a point now where we're squeaking
out a win At vandy at home is some kind
of amazing. Thing but Then Clark lee's done a good
job With. Vandy i'm just glad to see that he's
actually making some, froe playing with some. Confidence and so,
yeah they're in the. MIX i, mean the funny thing is.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
They're they're this.
Speaker 10 (37:58):
Year they're the little brother Little brother in the, state
right and they host they Host TEXAS a AND m
to finish this season on The friday night After thanksgiving and.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
More that's gonna be.
Speaker 10 (38:07):
Fun because that's going to be a massive crowd and
the The aggies.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
Could come in there with such a.
Speaker 10 (38:13):
Swagger there you, Know, Indiana, Ohio, STATE a AND. M
that's the those are the three and they're above everybody.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
Else, ALABAMA i, guess is not far.
Speaker 10 (38:22):
Behind but Now texas Is texas is a couple of
tiers behind. That but if they, well If texas keeps
winning AND a AND m keeps, winning that right there
a massive in state rivalry that had a few years,
off that's gonna be that's gonna be.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
Great and uh.
Speaker 10 (38:39):
And, honestly that's the coach That Mike oko is not
getting enough. Attention that's the coach In texas right. Now
that Is it's. Remarkable it's like The aggies have stumbled
into getting the right, coach the de man for the.
Moment and uh, yeah but that that could end up
being an incredible. Matchup BUT i think people are back to,
thinking Oh, texas look.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
At, that look at.
Speaker 10 (39:01):
That BUT i would, say LIKE a AND m right,
now playoff, wise they're, in, right they're ninety seven percent
in Where texas has still got Some they got a
lot of stuff to accomplish before they get in.
Speaker 3 (39:13):
There all, Right Matt, Mosley Cowboy Insider Doom Day. PODCAST
i appreciate, It. Matt we have some breaking. News i'm
going to get to my. Man thank you very. Much
as always late noticetopping by The.
Speaker 2 (39:23):
Herd you bet good to be with.
Speaker 3 (39:25):
You here we, Go Adam. Schefter we've GOT nfl it's
the trade. Deadline this is. Pricey The colts are trading
two first round picks to The New York jets to
Get Sauce. Gardner, NOW i, mean the cultu are a
very good. Team this weekend they get, hammered and their takeaway, is,
listen we got our, roster we got our, quarterback we
got OUR o, line we Got, warren we Got, pittman
(39:47):
we Have.
Speaker 4 (39:48):
Taylor we don't have a we don't have a.
Speaker 3 (39:50):
Corner so they're gonna say the culture, saying, listen we got.
Speaker 4 (39:53):
The, roster we got the, coach we got. Everything we
don't have a.
Speaker 3 (39:56):
CORNER i will also tell you there is a feeling
AMONG nfl execus there is a corner shortage in the.
League everybody has a second or third good. Receiver nobody
has a second good. Corner many teams don't have a
good first, Corner so SAFTGUARD i gotta give The jets
credit on this two first round. Picks so The jets
now like The Dallas. Cowboys the difference is The jets
(40:18):
need a. Quarterback so The jets are mailing in the.
Season they're going to have two first round. Picks next
couple of, years they're gonna go get a. Quarterback and
the reason they're doing this is if they end up
with a second best record and they really love a,
quarterback maybe you move up one spot to get the
guy you. Want so The jets are giving Up saftgardner
for two first round. Picks The seahawks Also Tom, pelasaro
(40:42):
are going to Get Rashid Sahed he's a speed. Receiver
The Sammy darnold baby just got another receiver to go WITH.
Jsn The saints are sending their speed. Receiver he's an
over the top guy to The. Seahawks Uh Ian rapaport
And Tom, pelosorrow.
Speaker 4 (41:02):
Guys nice job on.
Speaker 3 (41:03):
That SO i, MEAN i Thought seattle's receiving corps was already.
Good js and we talked about this. Yesterday is he
a top two to three receiver in the. League now
they had a speed receiver. Again now you're you're forcing
safeties to play differently against and Sam donold's got a big.
Arm donald is a big play. Quarterback they just added
(41:26):
a big play wide. Receiver how good is? This how
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