Colin Cowherd breaks down the NFL weekend, reacting to the Dallas Cowboys’ stunning 21-point comeback win over the Philadelphia Eagles. Colin explains why Dallas is closer to contender status than most fans think, giving major credit to Dak Prescott and Jerry Jones
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Speaker 1 (00:26):
Oh here we go on a Monday. We told you
it mean not looked like much on paper, but it
was gonna be a really good Sunday and it was
overtime games already got coordinators getting whacked one hour from now.
Where Colin was right, where Colin was wrong, always plenty
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of both.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
So Cowboys Eagles, Jay Mac it was you know, on paper,
we think Dallas's floun entering it. Somehow shoddy has got
this offense, at least in moments, playing out of their mind,
and it ended up being in wildly, incredibly entertaining game.
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So let's just start with that one. I said it
last week, and I've been a huge critic of the Cowboys.
They're not as far off as you think since they've
made these trades. Okay, a lot of us may own
apology to Gerald Wayne Jones Junior. Because Kenny Clark and
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Quinn Williams deals. Now suddenly you can't run on the Cowboys.
The Micah Parsons trade well didn't have much of an effect.
There's still top three in quarterback rushes. The George Pickens move,
I mean, that's one of the heists. Poor Steelers can't
throw the ball down the field. George Pickens third of
the NFL in touchdowns to Marvi and over shown that
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dude was great at Texas with the Longhorns. He is healthy,
he is super athletic. Two first round picks. They're gonna
get an edge to replace Micah, probably a corner. I
don't know. The offense works. Man number one in the
league and told offense number one in passing, number four
in scoring. It works, And because of Pickens and CD
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Lamb you can't cheat on the run game. So the
Cowboys are running the ball now better than they have
since Zeke in twenty nineteen. Now the old line is
hot and cold, better run blocking than pass blocking. But statistically,
I know, I know they're only five to five and one.
I know, I know they're playing Kansas City and it
may not turn out well. But I would rather be
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Dallas today and have the offense figured out than be
the Steelers for the fifth year in a row. Paint
of fortune for a defense they can't stop anybody. You
say what you want about Dallas, two first round picks,
Overshown's healthy, George Pickens, heist a real run game for
the first time in forever. And say this for Jerry
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or Jerald Wayne Jones Sr. He has always been one
hundred percent committed the DAK. He has said he's the
best leader I've ever had, and yesterday that unflappable leadership
trailing twenty one. Nothing throwing. You know he can throw
a red zone pick, doesn't matter, it's Dak. It's just noise.
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A lot of that win was DAK, and Jerry said
Dak was indispensable. Micah was great, but he was tradable.
And guess what, the Cowboys are still getting a pass rush.
The Cowboys defense right now is better than it was
last year. And with Micah it is you can't run
on him now with Kenny Clark and Quinn Williams. Yeah,
I have questions about Shoddy. I didn't think it was
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the strongest hire. I thought they should have gone heavy
into Mike Brable or the year before into Jim Harbar
Sean Payton, and they didn't. And Jerry doesn't necessarily want
to pay coaches big money. But I'll say this for Shoddy.
When teams play hard and don't quit, it's something. I mean,
I thought they were very I mean, it's twenty one
nhing and I'm like, oh, come on, I wanted a
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good game. It's the late window. Give me a game.
I don't want to have to watch Jacksonville in Arizona.
Give me a game. And it was and it's Dak
and it's leadership and it's no quit and it's over shown.
I don't know. Philly's been tempting fate four weeks and
nobody can quite beat him. And then the Cowboys do
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to score twenty four unanswered points against a really really
good defense. Credit to everybody, even Matt Eberflus, everybody gets
credit for this one. But more than anything, it is Dak,
a lot of noise, unflappable. Jerry's always been committed to him.
We all own an apology. You know, it's funny you
start looking at these first round deals and you're like, oh,
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they're losing, Micah, they couldn't defend the run when they
had Micah. Now you can't run on them. So who
made the good deal? Who made the band deal? I
said during the Micah deal, good for green Bay, not
tear for Dallas. Dallas will be fine because got to
get healthy. They got to get some draft picks. So
here was Dak and Jerry after.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Down twenty one. What did this team draw upon to
get this win?
Speaker 1 (05:14):
Our brotherhood one another?
Speaker 3 (05:17):
You know we got that that touched down before, haven't
went high time.
Speaker 4 (05:19):
We talked about it like we've only been hurting ourselves.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
We know what we're capable of doing.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
Come out, stay focused, stick together, and we can win
this thing.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Nobody believed, everybody believed it. We got it done.
Speaker 5 (05:30):
George has been such an integral part of our story,
and he has his story to a degree that that's
our story.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
And I'm so proud for him.
Speaker 5 (05:42):
Everybody on this team is. And he certainly has absolutely
been the difference as we've played over the last two weeks.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
And I'll say this, sometimes you have unintended consequences or
unintended benefits of a trade. Right think they thought when
George Pickens arrived it would help the run game so much,
but you got pickings on one side, CD on the other.
You can't just do single coverage. You gotta do some bracketing.
You got to play honest. You can't have your safeties
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two up. So the reality is now the run games working,
the old line's getting better, two elite receivers, Dak's on fire.
Two first round picks don't need a quarterback, so it
could turn two first round picks into five total picks.
The great thing about the NFL, it's the League of hope.
You can be absolutely awful one year New England and
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be a number one seed the following year. Potentially. New England.
Can't do that in baseball. You can't do that in
the NBA. It takes time and acquisitions. That is what
is great if you have a reasonable quarterback, and Dak
is more than reasonable. Look at Dallas from hopeless to
hope full this morning all right. Used to be a saying,
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how about them Cowboys? How about them Bears? First place?
Now Chicago was missing six defensive starters, so let's just
start with that. Their entire linebacking corps was out. So
suddenly you go into this game with Pittsburgh thinking, oh
we can't be boring. We've got to actually, we got
to move the ball down the field. And Caleb Williams,
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in my opinion, played his best game as a pro. Yeah,
he had a bad strip sack for a touchdown. Yeah,
he misses open receivers yep. Four straight game under sixty
percent completions. But Ben and Caleb is a marriage and
both are helping each other out. Ben has provided creative
play design and creative play calling, and he's created some
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structure and focused on the run game. And Caleb is
given Ben Johnson the horsepower that Jared goffin Detroit could
have only dreamed of. It is a marriage not of convenience.
It works. It's never going to be perfect. Caleb gives
you all this horsepower, but he does miss some throws.
It's just, you know, it's just part of his game.
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And I said this, I'll always take the upside for
some struggles in accuracy. And Ben and Caleb were both
incredibly gifted. Right now, they're the number one big play
offense in the NFL. This is Chicago. That's something Green
Bay does, or McVey does, or Shanahan does or Buffalo
and Josh Allen does no it's Chicago. And here's the
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thing about Caleb. If he's your quarterback, there's two or
three guarantees. Big arm, big mobility, playmaker loves the big play,
and Ben Johnson is providing the structure and the running
game to allow that much easier to throw downfield on
second and four when you don't have negative plays. That's
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the one thing about Caleb. There's two or three things
we all know about him. But I have said this
for years about Caleb. He doesn't get hurt and he
doesn't throw picks. If you provide him with a decent
structure to play within and a foundational running game, then
those big plays are easier. It sucks the linebackers and
it gives him more space. He's gonna make plays with
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his feet and he's got a huge arm, but he
just needs structure, he needs a run game. And he's
obviously coachable because he's completely eliminated the negative plays. Eleven games.
He's been sacked eleven times, And just think about that.
That's not because pass rush has died. It's not just
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because they improve the offensive line. If you're sacked sixty
eight times and it's down to eleven, you are coachable
and a lot of great athletes in all sports aren't
and Caleb is. So this marriage works. I don't think
it's a perfect fit. They're facing a very angry Philadelphia
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team next. That's not a place I'd want to be.
But Ben and Caleb addressed the number one issue. Ben say,
no negative plays. We can't have these second twenty two's,
third and nineteens. We can't do that where everybody knows
what we're doing. So they're doing play action, they're doing
under center. It really works. And here's with Caleb. You
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don't get the picks. It's very rare in the history
of the NFL that you get all this upside and
you don't get a lot of downside. I mean Marino
through picks, l Way through picks, Name It through picks,
Peyton through picks, Look picks, Camp pigs, Josh Allen picks.
When you get the massive upside, there's usually a downside.
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He doesn't throw them. So it's working. They're winning. It's
a little uneven. It's not always a perfect fit. But
when you're missing your entire linebacking crew and you're going
up against the team in Pittsburgh, don't forget hammered the Patriots,
the red hot Patriots, hammered the Colds who went toe
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to toe with Homes and Andy Reid. So wins are wins.
Here's been after.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Oh yeah, I tell you what. I tell you what.
It takes a village. It takes a village.
Speaker 6 (11:14):
And I'm talking about players, I'm talking about coaches, I'm
talking about training staff, I'm talking about everybody in this building.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
And here we are towards the.
Speaker 6 (11:24):
Back half the season and our depth is being tested.
All right, it would have been so easy to want. Man,
how are we gonna win this game? We got no linebacker?
On and on and on and on. Man, cradity to
you guys, that's number eight.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
How about that in a day? How about them Cowboys?
And how about them Bears in one weekend? J Matt
Caleb this season through eleven games, through eleven games has
been sacked seventy five percent less than he was last year.
At this time. We all talked about it before the season.
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I don't care about wins. You gotta eliminate the negative
plays in sacks. Ben Johnson and Caleb in Unison have
and that's the difference. It's what Brady talked about in Belichick.
They asked Belichick favorite part of Brady and that set
down interview. He goes no negative plays. We always stayed
ahead of the chains. He didn't talk about not throwing
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interceptions or a big arm or Brady's You know, Tom
got rid of the ball quickly yesterday. I believe, uh,
Caleb Williams the fastest he's ever second fastest release time
as a pro. So Caleb all the games he's played
yesterday against the Steelers, and we talked about it Friday,
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don't don't, don't don't tease TJ. Watt. He did once
and got burned. You gotta get rid of the ball.
Yesterday the second fastest getting rid of the ball in
Caleb Williams's career. So again it comes back to working
with the coach, being coachable. And for the record, Ben's
gotta work with Caleb because Jared Goff didn't give you this.
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Jared Goff didn't have this jet fuel really interesting stuff.
You know, people say, listen, these games are ugly. Who
cares coaches? You know, Sean McVay said it last week
on analytics. Everybody's got all the answers, none of the accountability.
You gotta win games. You need w's otherwise you get fired.
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We got two guys getting fired today. Giants got rid
of their DC, Raiders got rid of their OC. Gotta
win games. If the Raiders win, Chip Kelly is still working. Okay,
if the Giants win, that DC, who's not doing a
great job, probably still retains his gig. Gotta get w's.
Bears are j Mac. What a Sunday. Wow.
Speaker 7 (13:46):
Four overtime games, I think, and I just love the
glee that I hear from you in the Chicago Bears
get another awesome victory beating of Mason Rudolphia. That's right,
Mason n nice, nice dub for the Bears. Did you
see the line for Bears Eagles this week? You told
me to look at the line. Let me guess, Let
me guess, let me guess.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
I don't think you can even get within Okay, we
to this. Okay, So Philadelphia is at home. Awful loss.
That's a tough spot for Chicago. Feeling a tough one.
I would say Philly minus five and a half seven
oooh open at seven. Now now listen, I was expecting
them four and a half something like that. Bears are
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playing good. Maybe they'll get one of the linebackers back.
I'm stunned at that. And the Eagles they I don't
know what the problems are.
Speaker 7 (14:32):
They're not Jalen Hurts, but they got some problems somewhere.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
We'll talk about that. We'll talk about the Chiefs. Colin Wright,
Colin Wrong forty five minutes from now, Matt Hasselbeck.
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Speaker 1 (15:26):
Some of you may not remember this, but I do.
When George Foreman, Remember George Foreman two point zero, boxing
for titles in his forties, he was slower. Foreman was older,
he had a dad bod, but he still carried a
punch with that dad bod. That's where the Chiefs are
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right now. That game yesterday, forget the first three quarters,
that was about the fourth quarter in overtime. Kansas City
was tough and resilient and fighting their butt off, and
they were clutch two hundred and thirty six yards fourth
quarter in overtime. Another team, Indy, had a twenty nine
lead in a fumble recovery and choked like a cat
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on a hairball. Daniel Jones last three weeks regressed into
the New York Giant. Daniel Jones. Chiefs are not a
great team, but they fight and scratch and claw, and
they've still got that George Foreman punch okay, and Dynasties
do not usually end abruptly. Kobe and Shack they got
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to the finals, lost to the Pistons, but they got there,
and Brady before he left twelve games and a playoff appearance,
and Manny pacio I was there against Dennis Thurman want
to fight at forty. Dynasties don't end abruptly. They fight
they scratch, they clawed, little like Thanksgiving, little bit of
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a mess. Fire alarm goes off twice, but by the
time the meals delivered yesterday, it's pretty good. And that's
Kansas City, Indy had this game wrapped. Get out the bow,
late shopping. It was done. But even then, the game
was not about Daniel Jones and his ceiling. That was
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going to happen right September October. You get fooled a
lot on quarterback play. Weather's perfect, right, your roster's not
injured yet. As a quarterback, you have all your weapons.
Then all of a sudden, you lose your number two
receiver and you're number one right tackle and you're down
to a third string running back, asked Justin Herbert. Last
several years now, Daniel Jones didn't quite look like it did,
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and Kansas City doesn't look like they used to either,
But the reality is dynasties do not die abruptly. Kansas
City now has Denver at home, the Chargers at home,
the Texans at home, and the Cowboys are probably feeling
themselves and they faced Dallas next. Champions are about executing
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at their best. Tom Brady threw pick sixes in Super Bowls.
You can have mistakes. That game was all about the
fourth quarter and all about overtime, and in that space
fourth and overtime, the Chiefs had fourteen points, thirteen first downs,
and two hundred and thirty six total yards, and the
Colts had no points and no first downs. Here's Mahomes
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after the season saving w.
Speaker 8 (18:30):
This is exactly what we needed to win against a
really good football team and the game's not going your way.
You could you could have folded in that situation. We
needed to win like this, and I was just try
to build off of it.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
I mean, it's you know, the old saying dead to rights.
It was over and they and this is what you know.
This is the older Lakers or the older Patriots, or
you just fight and scratch and claw and it's imperfect
and it's ugly. But all I care about I sit
with the meal. What's it looked like in the end,
and it's a win. What a wild day yesterday? Jmac
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with a news, no.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
News, This is the herd line news.
Speaker 7 (19:12):
Speaking of wild, the Raiders organization is a wild dumpster fire.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
Chip Kelly got fired last night. Colin.
Speaker 7 (19:20):
He is the highest paid offensive coordinator in the league,
and he lasted a whopping eleven games. Oh my gosh,
I did see a crazy stat that Pete Carroll, in
all his years in Seattle never fired a coordinator. He's
now fired two in the last three weeks. So things
are really going sideways for the Raiders.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
Gino Smith was sack ten times.
Speaker 7 (19:43):
I don't know how close do you watch that? It
looked to me, I mean I had the Browns. It
looked to me like the Raiders' offensive line just quit,
like they just didn't care.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
I'll say this, not all bad teams are the same.
Not all bad teams have a coach like Kevin Stefanski
in a GM like Andrew Berry, and I'll argue this
die on this hill. Cleveland has talent. Okay, that running
back baller, a couple whole linemen that ere Laite, the
best pass rusher, the Denzel Wards they had. Jerry Doody
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drives me crazy. He's talented, David and Joku. So don't
tell me. Of all the teams in the league right
now we lump into bad teams, there is no Stefanski
at any of those teams. I think Barry's an elite GM.
I think none of them have the best player, arguably
in the whole league in Miles Garrett. Cleveland may not
have the quarterback they ideally want. They tried with Watson,
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but the Browns have talent. And I'll die on that
hill all day.
Speaker 7 (20:38):
Yeah, they just did. The quarterback situation is unsettled. Shador
was solid. I'm sure we'll talk about him later, But
this is more about the Raiders.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
Colin.
Speaker 7 (20:45):
You could argue right now, h that they're the worst
team in the league. Yeah, and this is bad for
Pete Carroll. I talked last week on this show. Hey,
is he going to be one and done? I mean, Colin,
he hand picked Gino Smith. Gino Smith does not look NFL.
I don't even know if he's a backup.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
Next year anymore.
Speaker 7 (21:02):
Do you think Pete Carroll survives this season?
Speaker 1 (21:04):
No, I think it's over at the end of the season.
That's my jests. Damn.
Speaker 7 (21:08):
Yeah, I'm with you. Raiders are They're worse than the
Jets and that's say them a lot. Yeah, all right,
let's go to Sunday Night football. It was a snoozer,
Rams just bludging the Buccaneers. I mean it was over
basically from Jump Street thirty four to seven was the final.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
This was twenty one nothing.
Speaker 7 (21:22):
But before I sat down with like my milk and cookies,
Matt Stafford was phenomenal. He is on an absolute heater.
He's thirty seven years old. He's throwing no look past
his twenty seven consecutive touchdown passes without a pick. Here's
Devonte Adams gassing up his quarterback.
Speaker 9 (21:39):
He's playing like the most valuable player in the league.
I mean you could see it in the numbers, the
way he's taking command of the huddle and the offense.
You know, the way him and Sean put things together
and worked, you know, throughout the week together to put
together a good product for us, just all around. I mean,
he's a great leader and obviously knows how to put
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points on the board and keep this office moving.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
Listen, DeVante Adams. The Raiders situation wasn't great, either was
the Jets. But he got Aaron in his prime and
now he's getting this Stafford. So I'm gonna get him
too the Hall of Fame, right. I mean, I mean,
here's the thing. They didn't give up anything to get him.
He was a free agent, so I mean it's amazing
they were able to get him for a very reasonable price.
The Rams, let's be honest, they have two number one receivers.
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They have two. Even as much as we like t Higgins,
he's not Jamar Chase. The Eagles have two number one receivers.
The Rams have two number one receivers, which again, the
Cowboys right now look like they have two number one receiver.
I always saw Pickens is a really good two. Pickens
is playing like a one. So when you have it's
not a coincidence. When you have two great receivers like
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the Rams and the Cowboys. Oh, you can run the football.
You can't cheat on the Rams. They thought to their
tight ends. They can run play action, they can go
deep crossers. They are the cleanest, most efficient team, no penalties,
no turnovers. The Rams are one of those teams. I mean,
think about Philadelphia, how good they are. Philly goes long
stretches where they look in net. I mean the Rams.
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Tampa is a legitimately good division winning team, potentially not
even competitive.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
I don't know.
Speaker 7 (23:14):
The Baker Mayfield stuff doesn't sound good. Sound like an
ac joint sprain. They don't know if he's going to
be able to play this week. Just real quick though,
I know you said the Eagles stink. Their offensive coordinator
situation is a disaster, Like can we get Jalen hurts
him with Veigh. I mean McVey is amazing. McVeigh gets golf,
go to the super Bowl. McVeigh trains somehow gets Stafford,
wins the Super Bowl, and now they're the number one seed.
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By the way, Colin, the Eagles loss is kind of
damaging for them getting the number one seed, although they
do have the tiebreaker over the Rams.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
I just don't know if SOFI is a big home
field a damage. It's a big weather advantage. You don't
have to go outdoors. The Rams could win outdoors, yes,
but it's a huge advantage. I mean the stadium maybe
fifty five percent Eagle fans. No, no, seventy two degrees.
That's what they work out in and trained. There is
no question. I watched a lot of Dan Foutch teams
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that were magical offensively. You send them to Cincinnati, it's
nine degrees, it's different. So it number one in the AFC.
I don't think matters as much because most of the
good teams over there all planned bad weather. But for
the Rams or like the Lions, Lions are they're gonna
be live. Yeah, home Field's a big.
Speaker 7 (24:26):
Deal and Green Bay should have their track team of
receivers healthy.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
I'm just saying if RAMS hosts THEAFC NFC.
Speaker 7 (24:32):
Title game, it really opens things up for the NFC,
makes a lot of teams interesting. Final story, Kong we
got to talk about, is Lane Kiffin stuff. This is
just I'm floored by this. Lane Kiffin is now, you know,
deciding between staying at Old Miss, going to LSU, going
to Florida, all kinds of nonsense out there. So the
ad at Ole Miss has spoken up and said he's
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expecting a decision after Friday's Egg Bowl.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
So that's that's interesting. Before we were hearing reports that
he wanted an answer before the game. Now the ad
is lightened up and said smartly, I want an answer
after the game. You don't want people.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
Going like that.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
Yeah, But in the end, I think we just have
to be totally forthright. I like Lane, I text Lane like.
I think he's a brilliant guy. I think he's a
brilliant football coach. I think he should stay or go
to the NFL. I don't think he should bounce around
in the SEC's take Yeah, stay at Old Miss, not
because you want to be a legend there because they're
going to pay a twelve million bucks. You got it?
Rolling your offense is great. Or go to the NFL
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because you know it's college football. NFL is better coaching
you're an elite offensive coach or a former player. But
my gut feeling is Lane has kind of done Ole Miss.
He's not somebody that's gonna you know where the high
school letterman jacket, and look, Lane is looking for new challenges.
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LSU has always been viewed as first or second greatest
job in the greatest conference. Georgia and LSU those jobs
are NFL factories. So Lane could get the NFL feel
without the NFL ownership over breathing down your neck.
Speaker 7 (26:11):
Yeah, and the goofy LSU situation I think knocks it
down a peg. Let me just add this, Colin, I
looked at Ole Miss is a seven and a half
point favorite against Misisippi State, right, so they should win.
But going to Stark Vegas, wacky things happen. True arrival regain, Colin,
do you know Ole Miss is going to the playoffs
and they're basically one bad quarter against Georgia away from
being undefeated. Yeah, and he would walk away from a
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team going to the playoffs. They could win the national Championship.
I don't think they would, but they could, and he
would walk away from that opportunity to go coach in
bets All Rouge.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
That's insane. I don't understand that. So that's why I
think he's saying. I think Nick Saban talked about this.
College football's got to solve this. In the NFL, you
don't hire somebody that has a job in season, cannot
do that. But in college you can. So in life,
when you can do something, aggressive people are going to
do something. LSU doesn't give a rip about Ole Miss.
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The SEC is all about W's So this is a
college football issue, not a Lane kiff An issue. I mean,
the reality is if you didn't have if the attack
system in America was an honor system, everybody would cheat
on their taxes. You can't because of the IRS. You
have to set up boundaries or aggressive people are just
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gonna do what aggressive people do. So you can blame Lane.
He's not. He didn't create it. He's a symptom of
but he didn't cause it. Yeah.
Speaker 7 (27:35):
So the other thing is before the playoff, right, Colin,
there were exhibition bowl games and if a coach leaves
before you're playing in the Peach Bowl, Noody cares. But
the playoff, that to me is totally different. I'll be honest,
I'll be surprised if he leaves. I know Florida lsu.
I just that would be shocking.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
Jmack with the news, Well.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
That's the news, and thanks for stopping by the herd
Line News.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
So I always said this all the years I've been
doing this and relying on executives in the NFL who
I text and talk to. I'd never seen a quarterback
that I viewed as a mid first mid second round
quarterback going to the fifth round. And then there were
stories that came out about shaduor Sanders that kind of
explained it little bougie and it's like, oh, okay, okay, okay.
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But I didn't know that before the draft. But I
always said about him in college, I said, like, he
moves well, he's super accurate. He's got kind of a
casualness to him, like he's not you know, his dad's famous,
He's been at famous places. He's not intimidated by the moment.
His confidence, doesn't ebb and flow. You know, he's I
think he lacks maturity and self awareness, but there's a
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looseness and a bring it on attitude that I you know,
I didn't think he was going to shrink. I predicted
Friday he'd go thirteen of eighteen, one touchdown and one
horrific pick. An he went close to that. But unlike
Dylan Gabriel, you do get big plays out of Shador
and that matter. And if Gino Smith is a franchise quarterback,
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so is Shador Sanders. And I thought Kevin Stefanski smart
game plan rolled him out at the goal line, they
used a wildcat, and there were very few negative plays. Obviously,
Shador was coachable and listened, so there was a lot
of stuff I like. I didn't. I never really pre
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draft or during the draft, understood why he fell. Antonio Pierce,
the former Raider coach, said this weekend we had him
as a first round player. So and then you hear
stuff and you know the speeding tickets, and you're like, hey,
he's got to grow up. But I thought he'd go
thirteen to eighteen with a horrible pick, and he went
eleven for twenty with a horrible pick, but overall you
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got some big plays. There's no reason to go back
to Dylan Gabriel. Let's let this thing play out. And
you know, it's like, in a weird way, Shador Sanders
is the perfect holiday flint. You play around for the
next six or seven weeks, and then eventually Cleveland moves
on to a steady or somebody they're gonna have, you know,
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a fifteen year relationship with. But there's nothing wrong with
a holiday flame. Hey, you connect to get on Facebook,
hang out for six or seven weeks. It is a
good time. But it's not like it's not a marriage.
I don't think he has great traits. He doesn't have
a huge arm, he's not hyper athletic, he doesn't have
a cannon he does. He's kind of loose and fun
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and capable. I thought it was a lot of fun.
And I you know, the conspiracy theory crowd, you can't
listen to that nonsense. I don't think Shaduer is a
thirty year marriage. He's a good time. I thought yesterday
it was a good time. It was fun. I watched
I would have never watched that game with Dylan Gabriel.
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So his traits are Okay, he's not big, he's not
super athletic in his own division. He's not the athlete
of Lamar, and he's not nearly as good in the
pocket as Burrow. And who knows what Pittsburgh's doing at quarterback.
They'll probably figure it out, you know, next next Labor Day.
And never wouldn't want to get ahead of schedule. But
I mean, he went from fifth round to fourth string
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to a first win. He went from a scout team
to a savior, and it was a lot of fun.
I mean, maybe like Colorado, the retires Jersey it's Cleveland,
But overall he's kind of he's not affected by it,
he's not intimidated by it. I saw a quarterback and
playing for the Vikings that literally drive to drive. It
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feels like his confidence goes up and down. Shooters kind
of whatever, casual, we'll bring it on here, he was
after his win.
Speaker 4 (31:46):
You gotta go out there and perform like there's no
choice of no question. Nobody cares. If this was one
we could prep, who cares? You know? So a lot
of people wanted to see me feel in it ain't
gonna happen.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
Yeah, I don't think a lot of people want to
see him fail. I was one of those with Tebau.
I never rooted against Tebau, but I said, it's not
divine intervention. It's a great defense. And Matt Prater a kicker.
I don't there's no reason to root against Shaduur. His
dad's been a little bit of a you know, Prima Donna,
a little diva and Dion I think he's a likable
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kid that needs to go up a little bit. I
wish he played with a little more urgency. Everything kind
of feels casual, but it was a good time yesterday.
Not all relationships have to be thirty year marriages. Holiday
flings are okay. Browns have two first picks, two first
round picks. Their only problem was Shadure. I'm gonna win
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some of these games down the stretch and they may
not be able to get to the Mendoza pick. And
if Dante More stays for another year at Oregon, I
think there's only one or two first round quarterbacks. Maybe
it's a good problem to have in Chicago. It's the Herd.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
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Speaker 1 (33:29):
It's a great game. My wife grew up in NFC
North territory in Michigan and Chicago, and so very rarely
in her life have the Lions and the Bear's been good.
And I said, it's a great game because the Bears
are on a heater, Green band Detroit are talented, But
I don't feel great about either one of them. I mean, yesterday,
Green Bay clearly didn't think JJ McCarthy could beat them
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and had the most conservative game plan of any Green
Bay team I've ever seen. So we'll get to that later.
But I want to talk about Philadelphia lose to Dallas.
So we saw this script two years ago. Eagles got
off to an unbelievable ten in one start, then it
got real noisy, and then they circled the drain and
it went sideways in a hurry. So I'm seeing it again.
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Don't tell me everything's okay. I've been preaching this for
six months. Something's not right. You keep telling me, Nick Seriani,
they've got two lee wide receivers, a top three to
zero line, a superstar running back, and they lead the
NFL in three and outs. Stop telling me everything's okay. Well,
Nick Sariani, his strength is managing a locker room. What
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is he a babysitter? I mean, that's part of it,
But you gotta be more than that. Saquon Barkley, can
somebody explain it? He looks like a number two back.
I mean last year we thought he was the second
best back after Barry standards we'd ever seen. So it's
if you're an offensive coach, and unquestionably the defense is
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the strength of your team. You have a stacked offensive
roster and yet our bottom ten in offense. Don't tell
me everything's okay. And the other thing you're like, hey,
Nick Sarayani, he is great at managing the locker room.
Then why was it big dumb their security guard that
had to facilitate the AJ Brown Jeffrey Lorie meeting? Is
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it that the coach not the security guard? I mean
Phil Jackson, For the record, he was great at managing
egos too, so was Joe Tory. But you know, Joe
Tory could fill out the lineup card and Phil Jackson
and Text Winner were the architects of the triangle offense.
And Phil was a great in game late game chess player,
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So I mean, he just everybody just keeps telling me, well,
they're a little uneven uneven. I mean a couple of
weeks ago they led the NFL in punts. How it's
not like they played it. I mean in their division.
Dallas was wonky defensively before all the moves. The Giants
are bad defensively, So I I mean, we all keep
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blaming Jalen Hurts, myself included. I'm over that Jalen Hurts.
He is what he is. You can't be punt punt, punt,
punt punt and tell me, well, it's all Jalen Hurts.
I saw Baker Mayfield win a game with one practice
and Josh Dobbs win a game with no practices. Jalen,
you can't keep blaming Jalen Hurts for all this stuff.
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I mean, twenty four straight points by Dallas. I mean,
that's what you do against the Titans, That's what you
do against the Raiders. The dude, that against Philadelphia's roster.
Here's Jalen after the loss.
Speaker 3 (36:39):
It's a matter of the execution, the discipline and the
focus and what we do and collectively, we just have
to take a step in that.
Speaker 4 (36:45):
It's been.
Speaker 3 (36:47):
A lot of instances where it's showing up and has gottenans,
but we've been able to figure it out and will
ourselves to a win.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
And tonight we didn't.
Speaker 3 (36:54):
You know, we played a hell of the first half
and then we didn't play, you know, not even a
close enough to our standard in the second half who
we've been before.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
We'll figure it out and they may figure it out,
and if they do, let's give Jalen Hurts the credit
or Big Dom. So, I mean, it's not the end
of the world. They're gonna be in a really bad mood.
They're a touchdown j Max says on Friday over the Bears.
It's a rough spot for the Bears. But it's just
you've been telling me for months it's all okay, And
I'm like, I saw this two years ago, and it
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looks a lot like two years ago. I don't even
know what's happened to sake one Barkley. I have no idea.
I mean, is it like arm fatigue in baseball? Where
you go, you know, you go deep in the playoffs,
you come back for spring, and there's arm fatigue. I
don't know what it is. I just know last year
we were talking about one of the great running backs
of all time. He looks like a backup. And again
they have two great receivers, they have good tight ends.
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So let me just say this about the Cowboys now.
For years and years I have been critical of quarterbacks
or coaches who on Wednesday at the podium, it's not linebackers, corners,
it's leadership positions. Wearing the hat backwards at the Wednesday podium.
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I don't like it. I've never said anything though about
a coach in a locker room wearing his hat on backwards.
I've never talked about that. And I've got to be honest.
I kind of like this yesterday from Shady. Hey.
Speaker 10 (38:29):
We got a lot to celebrate, but I gotta questions.
Can you win the game in the first quarter? Can
you win the game of the second quarter? And we
spot twenty one points?
Speaker 2 (38:44):
What about that?
Speaker 1 (38:49):
When you play only one game a week, those locker
room things are so good. I'll be honest, I'm I've
never really coveted the backward hat like most to my audience.
That doesn't bother me. The post game backwards hat, that
may become a tradition on this show. We may promote
it and market it Wednesday Podium. Don't love it. But
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I will say about Brian Schottenheimer, he's an offensive coach.
What is my rule? How's your side of the ball?
Brenton Venables in Oklahoma, his side of the ball is great.
So Schottenheimer's job is offense. DA's reeling, the old line's
getting better, the run game is working now. Fifteen years
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ago he was thought of as the hot coach, and
then there was a lot of people that felt he
wasn't current, he wasn't keeping up whatever. I was one
of those people. So he's been really, really good. Now
again they're five to five and one. They play the Chiefs.
I don't like him in that game, but there is
an energy. Listen, Jerry Jones. I think it's pretty well
established he doesn't the Parcels and the Jimmy Johnson they're
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gonna keep. They're gonna keep Jarah at Bay. They don't
want him the room, they don't want him talking to
the media, and Jerry's like, it's my toy. I'm sorry.
It's a lot more fun than selling oil or finding it.
I like doing this whole GM thing. And Jerry's probably
a little bit better than anybody gives him credit for.
And I didn't think Schottenheimer. I didn't think he was
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empowering him. I thought it was kind of a weak move.
But you have to admit the offense, the passing game
right now, it's extraordinary. It's it's it's like the Rams,
they just they are just playing at a different level.
So he deserves a lot of credit. Colin right, Colin wrong.
The whole day, I mean, from shador standers, we got
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coaches getting fired today, to the Dallas Cowboys, to the
Colts having it and losing it. It was it was.
It was a really, really wild Sunday. And I think
what's fascinating. Thanksgiving is always weird. It's a short week.
Do you get the best effort? The green Bay Detroit game,
to me is really interesting. Detroit does not feel nearly
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as precise as last year. Jamiir gave Gibbs saved them yesterday,
So you know, I didn't love it when Detroit lost
both coordinators, both excellent coordinators, and hired only in the building.
I didn't like it. Well, I think I've been proven right.
They're not as sharp, but they're just so talented. The
Lions are so talented, but I don't like the way
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they feel. And green Bay, I thought this weekend they
did cover, but that game plan that was an indictment
of JJ McCarthy. They're like, we're just gonna do field goals.
We're gonna make him drive down the field. You had
nothing deep feed us that way, and green Bay was
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
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Speaker 1 (00:26):
Oh here we go on a Monday. We told you
it mean not looked like much on paper, but it
was gonna be a really good Sunday and it was
overtime games already got coordinators getting whacked one hour from now.
Where Colin was right, where Colin was wrong, always plenty
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of both.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
So Cowboys Eagles, Jay Mac it was you know, on paper,
we think Dallas's floun entering it. Somehow shoddy has got
this offense, at least in moments, playing out of their mind,
and it ended up being in wildly, incredibly entertaining game.
(01:14):
So let's just start with that one. I said it
last week, and I've been a huge critic of the Cowboys.
They're not as far off as you think since they've
made these trades. Okay, a lot of us may own
apology to Gerald Wayne Jones Junior. Because Kenny Clark and
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Quinn Williams deals. Now suddenly you can't run on the Cowboys.
The Micah Parsons trade well didn't have much of an effect.
There's still top three in quarterback rushes. The George Pickens move,
I mean, that's one of the heists. Poor Steelers can't
throw the ball down the field. George Pickens third of
the NFL in touchdowns to Marvi and over shown that
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dude was great at Texas with the Longhorns. He is healthy,
he is super athletic. Two first round picks. They're gonna
get an edge to replace Micah, probably a corner. I
don't know. The offense works. Man number one in the
league and told offense number one in passing, number four
in scoring. It works, And because of Pickens and CD
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Lamb you can't cheat on the run game. So the
Cowboys are running the ball now better than they have
since Zeke in twenty nineteen. Now the old line is
hot and cold, better run blocking than pass blocking. But statistically,
I know, I know they're only five to five and one.
I know, I know they're playing Kansas City and it
may not turn out well. But I would rather be
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Dallas today and have the offense figured out than be
the Steelers for the fifth year in a row. Paint
of fortune for a defense they can't stop anybody. You
say what you want about Dallas, two first round picks,
Overshown's healthy, George Pickens, heist a real run game for
the first time in forever. And say this for Jerry
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or Jerald Wayne Jones Sr. He has always been one
hundred percent committed the DAK. He has said he's the
best leader I've ever had, and yesterday that unflappable leadership
trailing twenty one. Nothing throwing. You know he can throw
a red zone pick, doesn't matter, it's Dak. It's just noise.
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A lot of that win was DAK, and Jerry said
Dak was indispensable. Micah was great, but he was tradable.
And guess what, the Cowboys are still getting a pass rush.
The Cowboys defense right now is better than it was
last year. And with Micah it is you can't run
on him now with Kenny Clark and Quinn Williams. Yeah,
I have questions about Shoddy. I didn't think it was
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the strongest hire. I thought they should have gone heavy
into Mike Brable or the year before into Jim Harbar
Sean Payton, and they didn't. And Jerry doesn't necessarily want
to pay coaches big money. But I'll say this for Shoddy.
When teams play hard and don't quit, it's something. I mean,
I thought they were very I mean, it's twenty one
nhing and I'm like, oh, come on, I wanted a
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good game. It's the late window. Give me a game.
I don't want to have to watch Jacksonville in Arizona.
Give me a game. And it was and it's Dak
and it's leadership and it's no quit and it's over shown.
I don't know. Philly's been tempting fate four weeks and
nobody can quite beat him. And then the Cowboys do
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to score twenty four unanswered points against a really really
good defense. Credit to everybody, even Matt Eberflus, everybody gets
credit for this one. But more than anything, it is Dak,
a lot of noise, unflappable. Jerry's always been committed to him.
We all own an apology. You know, it's funny you
start looking at these first round deals and you're like, oh,
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they're losing, Micah, they couldn't defend the run when they
had Micah. Now you can't run on them. So who
made the good deal? Who made the band deal? I
said during the Micah deal, good for green Bay, not
tear for Dallas. Dallas will be fine because got to
get healthy. They got to get some draft picks. So
here was Dak and Jerry after.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Down twenty one. What did this team draw upon to
get this win?
Speaker 1 (05:14):
Our brotherhood one another?
Speaker 3 (05:17):
You know we got that that touched down before, haven't
went high time.
Speaker 4 (05:19):
We talked about it like we've only been hurting ourselves.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
We know what we're capable of doing.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
Come out, stay focused, stick together, and we can win
this thing.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Nobody believed, everybody believed it. We got it done.
Speaker 5 (05:30):
George has been such an integral part of our story,
and he has his story to a degree that that's
our story.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
And I'm so proud for him.
Speaker 5 (05:42):
Everybody on this team is. And he certainly has absolutely
been the difference as we've played over the last two weeks.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
And I'll say this, sometimes you have unintended consequences or
unintended benefits of a trade. Right think they thought when
George Pickens arrived it would help the run game so much,
but you got pickings on one side, CD on the other.
You can't just do single coverage. You gotta do some bracketing.
You got to play honest. You can't have your safeties
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two up. So the reality is now the run games working,
the old line's getting better, two elite receivers, Dak's on fire.
Two first round picks don't need a quarterback, so it
could turn two first round picks into five total picks.
The great thing about the NFL, it's the League of hope.
You can be absolutely awful one year New England and
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be a number one seed the following year. Potentially. New England.
Can't do that in baseball. You can't do that in
the NBA. It takes time and acquisitions. That is what
is great if you have a reasonable quarterback, and Dak
is more than reasonable. Look at Dallas from hopeless to
hope full this morning all right. Used to be a saying,
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how about them Cowboys? How about them Bears? First place?
Now Chicago was missing six defensive starters, so let's just
start with that. Their entire linebacking corps was out. So
suddenly you go into this game with Pittsburgh thinking, oh
we can't be boring. We've got to actually, we got
to move the ball down the field. And Caleb Williams,
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in my opinion, played his best game as a pro. Yeah,
he had a bad strip sack for a touchdown. Yeah,
he misses open receivers yep. Four straight game under sixty
percent completions. But Ben and Caleb is a marriage and
both are helping each other out. Ben has provided creative
play design and creative play calling, and he's created some
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structure and focused on the run game. And Caleb is
given Ben Johnson the horsepower that Jared goffin Detroit could
have only dreamed of. It is a marriage not of convenience.
It works. It's never going to be perfect. Caleb gives
you all this horsepower, but he does miss some throws.
It's just, you know, it's just part of his game.
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And I said this, I'll always take the upside for
some struggles in accuracy. And Ben and Caleb were both
incredibly gifted. Right now, they're the number one big play
offense in the NFL. This is Chicago. That's something Green
Bay does, or McVey does, or Shanahan does or Buffalo
and Josh Allen does no it's Chicago. And here's the
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thing about Caleb. If he's your quarterback, there's two or
three guarantees. Big arm, big mobility, playmaker loves the big play,
and Ben Johnson is providing the structure and the running
game to allow that much easier to throw downfield on
second and four when you don't have negative plays. That's
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the one thing about Caleb. There's two or three things
we all know about him. But I have said this
for years about Caleb. He doesn't get hurt and he
doesn't throw picks. If you provide him with a decent
structure to play within and a foundational running game, then
those big plays are easier. It sucks the linebackers and
it gives him more space. He's gonna make plays with
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his feet and he's got a huge arm, but he
just needs structure, he needs a run game. And he's
obviously coachable because he's completely eliminated the negative plays. Eleven games.
He's been sacked eleven times, And just think about that.
That's not because pass rush has died. It's not just
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because they improve the offensive line. If you're sacked sixty
eight times and it's down to eleven, you are coachable
and a lot of great athletes in all sports aren't
and Caleb is. So this marriage works. I don't think
it's a perfect fit. They're facing a very angry Philadelphia
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team next. That's not a place I'd want to be.
But Ben and Caleb addressed the number one issue. Ben say,
no negative plays. We can't have these second twenty two's,
third and nineteens. We can't do that where everybody knows
what we're doing. So they're doing play action, they're doing
under center. It really works. And here's with Caleb. You
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don't get the picks. It's very rare in the history
of the NFL that you get all this upside and
you don't get a lot of downside. I mean Marino
through picks, l Way through picks, Name It through picks,
Peyton through picks, Look picks, Camp pigs, Josh Allen picks.
When you get the massive upside, there's usually a downside.
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He doesn't throw them. So it's working. They're winning. It's
a little uneven. It's not always a perfect fit. But
when you're missing your entire linebacking crew and you're going
up against the team in Pittsburgh, don't forget hammered the Patriots,
the red hot Patriots, hammered the Colds who went toe
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to toe with Homes and Andy Reid. So wins are wins.
Here's been after.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Oh yeah, I tell you what. I tell you what.
It takes a village. It takes a village.
Speaker 6 (11:14):
And I'm talking about players, I'm talking about coaches, I'm
talking about training staff, I'm talking about everybody in this building.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
And here we are towards the.
Speaker 6 (11:24):
Back half the season and our depth is being tested.
All right, it would have been so easy to want. Man,
how are we gonna win this game? We got no linebacker?
On and on and on and on. Man, cradity to
you guys, that's number eight.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
How about that in a day? How about them Cowboys?
And how about them Bears in one weekend? J Matt
Caleb this season through eleven games, through eleven games has
been sacked seventy five percent less than he was last year.
At this time. We all talked about it before the season.
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I don't care about wins. You gotta eliminate the negative
plays in sacks. Ben Johnson and Caleb in Unison have
and that's the difference. It's what Brady talked about in Belichick.
They asked Belichick favorite part of Brady and that set
down interview. He goes no negative plays. We always stayed
ahead of the chains. He didn't talk about not throwing
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interceptions or a big arm or Brady's You know, Tom
got rid of the ball quickly yesterday. I believe, uh,
Caleb Williams the fastest he's ever second fastest release time
as a pro. So Caleb all the games he's played
yesterday against the Steelers, and we talked about it Friday,
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don't don't, don't don't tease TJ. Watt. He did once
and got burned. You gotta get rid of the ball.
Yesterday the second fastest getting rid of the ball in
Caleb Williams's career. So again it comes back to working
with the coach, being coachable. And for the record, Ben's
gotta work with Caleb because Jared Goff didn't give you this.
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Jared Goff didn't have this jet fuel really interesting stuff.
You know, people say, listen, these games are ugly. Who
cares coaches? You know, Sean McVay said it last week
on analytics. Everybody's got all the answers, none of the accountability.
You gotta win games. You need w's otherwise you get fired.
(13:24):
We got two guys getting fired today. Giants got rid
of their DC, Raiders got rid of their OC. Gotta
win games. If the Raiders win, Chip Kelly is still working. Okay,
if the Giants win, that DC, who's not doing a
great job, probably still retains his gig. Gotta get w's.
Bears are j Mac. What a Sunday. Wow.
Speaker 7 (13:46):
Four overtime games, I think, and I just love the
glee that I hear from you in the Chicago Bears
get another awesome victory beating of Mason Rudolphia. That's right,
Mason n nice, nice dub for the Bears. Did you
see the line for Bears Eagles this week? You told
me to look at the line. Let me guess, Let
me guess, let me guess.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
I don't think you can even get within Okay, we
to this. Okay, So Philadelphia is at home. Awful loss.
That's a tough spot for Chicago. Feeling a tough one.
I would say Philly minus five and a half seven
oooh open at seven. Now now listen, I was expecting
them four and a half something like that. Bears are
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playing good. Maybe they'll get one of the linebackers back.
I'm stunned at that. And the Eagles they I don't
know what the problems are.
Speaker 7 (14:32):
They're not Jalen Hurts, but they got some problems somewhere.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
We'll talk about that. We'll talk about the Chiefs. Colin Wright,
Colin Wrong forty five minutes from now, Matt Hasselbeck.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
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Speaker 1 (15:26):
Some of you may not remember this, but I do.
When George Foreman, Remember George Foreman two point zero, boxing
for titles in his forties, he was slower. Foreman was older,
he had a dad bod, but he still carried a
punch with that dad bod. That's where the Chiefs are
(15:47):
right now. That game yesterday, forget the first three quarters,
that was about the fourth quarter in overtime. Kansas City
was tough and resilient and fighting their butt off, and
they were clutch two hundred and thirty six yards fourth
quarter in overtime. Another team, Indy, had a twenty nine
lead in a fumble recovery and choked like a cat
(16:09):
on a hairball. Daniel Jones last three weeks regressed into
the New York Giant. Daniel Jones. Chiefs are not a
great team, but they fight and scratch and claw, and
they've still got that George Foreman punch okay, and Dynasties
do not usually end abruptly. Kobe and Shack they got
(16:33):
to the finals, lost to the Pistons, but they got there,
and Brady before he left twelve games and a playoff appearance,
and Manny pacio I was there against Dennis Thurman want
to fight at forty. Dynasties don't end abruptly. They fight
they scratch, they clawed, little like Thanksgiving, little bit of
(16:54):
a mess. Fire alarm goes off twice, but by the
time the meals delivered yesterday, it's pretty good. And that's
Kansas City, Indy had this game wrapped. Get out the bow,
late shopping. It was done. But even then, the game
was not about Daniel Jones and his ceiling. That was
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going to happen right September October. You get fooled a
lot on quarterback play. Weather's perfect, right, your roster's not
injured yet. As a quarterback, you have all your weapons.
Then all of a sudden, you lose your number two
receiver and you're number one right tackle and you're down
to a third string running back, asked Justin Herbert. Last
several years now, Daniel Jones didn't quite look like it did,
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and Kansas City doesn't look like they used to either,
But the reality is dynasties do not die abruptly. Kansas
City now has Denver at home, the Chargers at home,
the Texans at home, and the Cowboys are probably feeling
themselves and they faced Dallas next. Champions are about executing
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at their best. Tom Brady threw pick sixes in Super Bowls.
You can have mistakes. That game was all about the
fourth quarter and all about overtime, and in that space
fourth and overtime, the Chiefs had fourteen points, thirteen first downs,
and two hundred and thirty six total yards, and the
Colts had no points and no first downs. Here's Mahomes
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after the season saving w.
Speaker 8 (18:30):
This is exactly what we needed to win against a
really good football team and the game's not going your way.
You could you could have folded in that situation. We
needed to win like this, and I was just try
to build off of it.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
I mean, it's you know, the old saying dead to rights.
It was over and they and this is what you know.
This is the older Lakers or the older Patriots, or
you just fight and scratch and claw and it's imperfect
and it's ugly. But all I care about I sit
with the meal. What's it looked like in the end,
and it's a win. What a wild day yesterday? Jmac
(19:05):
with a news, no.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
News, This is the herd line news.
Speaker 7 (19:12):
Speaking of wild, the Raiders organization is a wild dumpster fire.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
Chip Kelly got fired last night. Colin.
Speaker 7 (19:20):
He is the highest paid offensive coordinator in the league,
and he lasted a whopping eleven games. Oh my gosh,
I did see a crazy stat that Pete Carroll, in
all his years in Seattle never fired a coordinator. He's
now fired two in the last three weeks. So things
are really going sideways for the Raiders.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
Gino Smith was sack ten times.
Speaker 7 (19:43):
I don't know how close do you watch that? It
looked to me, I mean I had the Browns. It
looked to me like the Raiders' offensive line just quit,
like they just didn't care.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
I'll say this, not all bad teams are the same.
Not all bad teams have a coach like Kevin Stefanski
in a GM like Andrew Berry, and I'll argue this
die on this hill. Cleveland has talent. Okay, that running
back baller, a couple whole linemen that ere Laite, the
best pass rusher, the Denzel Wards they had. Jerry Doody
(20:12):
drives me crazy. He's talented, David and Joku. So don't
tell me. Of all the teams in the league right
now we lump into bad teams, there is no Stefanski
at any of those teams. I think Barry's an elite GM.
I think none of them have the best player, arguably
in the whole league in Miles Garrett. Cleveland may not
have the quarterback they ideally want. They tried with Watson,
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but the Browns have talent. And I'll die on that
hill all day.
Speaker 7 (20:38):
Yeah, they just did. The quarterback situation is unsettled. Shador
was solid. I'm sure we'll talk about him later, But
this is more about the Raiders.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
Colin.
Speaker 7 (20:45):
You could argue right now, h that they're the worst
team in the league. Yeah, and this is bad for
Pete Carroll. I talked last week on this show. Hey,
is he going to be one and done? I mean, Colin,
he hand picked Gino Smith. Gino Smith does not look NFL.
I don't even know if he's a backup.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
Next year anymore.
Speaker 7 (21:02):
Do you think Pete Carroll survives this season?
Speaker 1 (21:04):
No, I think it's over at the end of the season.
That's my jests. Damn.
Speaker 7 (21:08):
Yeah, I'm with you. Raiders are They're worse than the
Jets and that's say them a lot. Yeah, all right,
let's go to Sunday Night football. It was a snoozer,
Rams just bludging the Buccaneers. I mean it was over
basically from Jump Street thirty four to seven was the final.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
This was twenty one nothing.
Speaker 7 (21:22):
But before I sat down with like my milk and cookies,
Matt Stafford was phenomenal. He is on an absolute heater.
He's thirty seven years old. He's throwing no look past
his twenty seven consecutive touchdown passes without a pick. Here's
Devonte Adams gassing up his quarterback.
Speaker 9 (21:39):
He's playing like the most valuable player in the league.
I mean you could see it in the numbers, the
way he's taking command of the huddle and the offense.
You know, the way him and Sean put things together
and worked, you know, throughout the week together to put
together a good product for us, just all around. I mean,
he's a great leader and obviously knows how to put
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points on the board and keep this office moving.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
Listen, DeVante Adams. The Raiders situation wasn't great, either was
the Jets. But he got Aaron in his prime and
now he's getting this Stafford. So I'm gonna get him
too the Hall of Fame, right. I mean, I mean,
here's the thing. They didn't give up anything to get him.
He was a free agent, so I mean it's amazing
they were able to get him for a very reasonable price.
The Rams, let's be honest, they have two number one receivers.
(22:26):
They have two. Even as much as we like t Higgins,
he's not Jamar Chase. The Eagles have two number one receivers.
The Rams have two number one receivers, which again, the
Cowboys right now look like they have two number one receiver.
I always saw Pickens is a really good two. Pickens
is playing like a one. So when you have it's
not a coincidence. When you have two great receivers like
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the Rams and the Cowboys. Oh, you can run the football.
You can't cheat on the Rams. They thought to their
tight ends. They can run play action, they can go
deep crossers. They are the cleanest, most efficient team, no penalties,
no turnovers. The Rams are one of those teams. I mean,
think about Philadelphia, how good they are. Philly goes long
stretches where they look in net. I mean the Rams.
(23:08):
Tampa is a legitimately good division winning team, potentially not
even competitive.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
I don't know.
Speaker 7 (23:14):
The Baker Mayfield stuff doesn't sound good. Sound like an
ac joint sprain. They don't know if he's going to
be able to play this week. Just real quick though,
I know you said the Eagles stink. Their offensive coordinator
situation is a disaster, Like can we get Jalen hurts
him with Veigh. I mean McVey is amazing. McVeigh gets golf,
go to the super Bowl. McVeigh trains somehow gets Stafford,
wins the Super Bowl, and now they're the number one seed.
(23:36):
By the way, Colin, the Eagles loss is kind of
damaging for them getting the number one seed, although they
do have the tiebreaker over the Rams.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
I just don't know if SOFI is a big home
field a damage. It's a big weather advantage. You don't
have to go outdoors. The Rams could win outdoors, yes,
but it's a huge advantage. I mean the stadium maybe
fifty five percent Eagle fans. No, no, seventy two degrees.
That's what they work out in and trained. There is
no question. I watched a lot of Dan Foutch teams
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that were magical offensively. You send them to Cincinnati, it's
nine degrees, it's different. So it number one in the AFC.
I don't think matters as much because most of the
good teams over there all planned bad weather. But for
the Rams or like the Lions, Lions are they're gonna
be live. Yeah, home Field's a big.
Speaker 7 (24:26):
Deal and Green Bay should have their track team of
receivers healthy.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
I'm just saying if RAMS hosts THEAFC NFC.
Speaker 7 (24:32):
Title game, it really opens things up for the NFC,
makes a lot of teams interesting. Final story, Kong we
got to talk about, is Lane Kiffin stuff. This is
just I'm floored by this. Lane Kiffin is now, you know,
deciding between staying at Old Miss, going to LSU, going
to Florida, all kinds of nonsense out there. So the
ad at Ole Miss has spoken up and said he's
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expecting a decision after Friday's Egg Bowl.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
So that's that's interesting. Before we were hearing reports that
he wanted an answer before the game. Now the ad
is lightened up and said smartly, I want an answer
after the game. You don't want people.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
Going like that.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
Yeah, But in the end, I think we just have
to be totally forthright. I like Lane, I text Lane like.
I think he's a brilliant guy. I think he's a
brilliant football coach. I think he should stay or go
to the NFL. I don't think he should bounce around
in the SEC's take Yeah, stay at Old Miss, not
because you want to be a legend there because they're
going to pay a twelve million bucks. You got it?
Rolling your offense is great. Or go to the NFL
(25:33):
because you know it's college football. NFL is better coaching
you're an elite offensive coach or a former player. But
my gut feeling is Lane has kind of done Ole Miss.
He's not somebody that's gonna you know where the high
school letterman jacket, and look, Lane is looking for new challenges.
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LSU has always been viewed as first or second greatest
job in the greatest conference. Georgia and LSU those jobs
are NFL factories. So Lane could get the NFL feel
without the NFL ownership over breathing down your neck.
Speaker 7 (26:11):
Yeah, and the goofy LSU situation I think knocks it
down a peg. Let me just add this, Colin, I
looked at Ole Miss is a seven and a half
point favorite against Misisippi State, right, so they should win.
But going to Stark Vegas, wacky things happen. True arrival regain, Colin,
do you know Ole Miss is going to the playoffs
and they're basically one bad quarter against Georgia away from
being undefeated. Yeah, and he would walk away from a
(26:33):
team going to the playoffs. They could win the national Championship.
I don't think they would, but they could, and he
would walk away from that opportunity to go coach in
bets All Rouge.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
That's insane. I don't understand that. So that's why I
think he's saying. I think Nick Saban talked about this.
College football's got to solve this. In the NFL, you
don't hire somebody that has a job in season, cannot
do that. But in college you can. So in life,
when you can do something, aggressive people are going to
do something. LSU doesn't give a rip about Ole Miss.
(27:05):
The SEC is all about W's So this is a
college football issue, not a Lane kiff An issue. I mean,
the reality is if you didn't have if the attack
system in America was an honor system, everybody would cheat
on their taxes. You can't because of the IRS. You
have to set up boundaries or aggressive people are just
(27:26):
gonna do what aggressive people do. So you can blame Lane.
He's not. He didn't create it. He's a symptom of
but he didn't cause it. Yeah.
Speaker 7 (27:35):
So the other thing is before the playoff, right, Colin,
there were exhibition bowl games and if a coach leaves
before you're playing in the Peach Bowl, Noody cares. But
the playoff, that to me is totally different. I'll be honest,
I'll be surprised if he leaves. I know Florida lsu.
I just that would be shocking.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
Jmack with the news, Well.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
That's the news, and thanks for stopping by the herd
Line News.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
So I always said this all the years I've been
doing this and relying on executives in the NFL who
I text and talk to. I'd never seen a quarterback
that I viewed as a mid first mid second round
quarterback going to the fifth round. And then there were
stories that came out about shaduor Sanders that kind of
explained it little bougie and it's like, oh, okay, okay, okay.
(28:19):
But I didn't know that before the draft. But I
always said about him in college, I said, like, he
moves well, he's super accurate. He's got kind of a
casualness to him, like he's not you know, his dad's famous,
He's been at famous places. He's not intimidated by the moment.
His confidence, doesn't ebb and flow. You know, he's I
think he lacks maturity and self awareness, but there's a
(28:41):
looseness and a bring it on attitude that I you know,
I didn't think he was going to shrink. I predicted
Friday he'd go thirteen of eighteen, one touchdown and one
horrific pick. An he went close to that. But unlike
Dylan Gabriel, you do get big plays out of Shador
and that matter. And if Gino Smith is a franchise quarterback,
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so is Shador Sanders. And I thought Kevin Stefanski smart
game plan rolled him out at the goal line, they
used a wildcat, and there were very few negative plays. Obviously,
Shador was coachable and listened, so there was a lot
of stuff I like. I didn't. I never really pre
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draft or during the draft, understood why he fell. Antonio Pierce,
the former Raider coach, said this weekend we had him
as a first round player. So and then you hear
stuff and you know the speeding tickets, and you're like, hey,
he's got to grow up. But I thought he'd go
thirteen to eighteen with a horrible pick, and he went
eleven for twenty with a horrible pick, but overall you
(29:48):
got some big plays. There's no reason to go back
to Dylan Gabriel. Let's let this thing play out. And
you know, it's like, in a weird way, Shador Sanders
is the perfect holiday flint. You play around for the
next six or seven weeks, and then eventually Cleveland moves
on to a steady or somebody they're gonna have, you know,
(30:09):
a fifteen year relationship with. But there's nothing wrong with
a holiday flame. Hey, you connect to get on Facebook,
hang out for six or seven weeks. It is a
good time. But it's not like it's not a marriage.
I don't think he has great traits. He doesn't have
a huge arm, he's not hyper athletic, he doesn't have
a cannon he does. He's kind of loose and fun
(30:32):
and capable. I thought it was a lot of fun.
And I you know, the conspiracy theory crowd, you can't
listen to that nonsense. I don't think Shaduer is a
thirty year marriage. He's a good time. I thought yesterday
it was a good time. It was fun. I watched
I would have never watched that game with Dylan Gabriel.
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So his traits are Okay, he's not big, he's not
super athletic in his own division. He's not the athlete
of Lamar, and he's not nearly as good in the
pocket as Burrow. And who knows what Pittsburgh's doing at quarterback.
They'll probably figure it out, you know, next next Labor Day.
And never wouldn't want to get ahead of schedule. But
I mean, he went from fifth round to fourth string
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to a first win. He went from a scout team
to a savior, and it was a lot of fun.
I mean, maybe like Colorado, the retires Jersey it's Cleveland,
But overall he's kind of he's not affected by it,
he's not intimidated by it. I saw a quarterback and
playing for the Vikings that literally drive to drive. It
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feels like his confidence goes up and down. Shooters kind
of whatever, casual, we'll bring it on here, he was
after his win.
Speaker 4 (31:46):
You gotta go out there and perform like there's no
choice of no question. Nobody cares. If this was one
we could prep, who cares? You know? So a lot
of people wanted to see me feel in it ain't
gonna happen.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
Yeah, I don't think a lot of people want to
see him fail. I was one of those with Tebau.
I never rooted against Tebau, but I said, it's not
divine intervention. It's a great defense. And Matt Prater a kicker.
I don't there's no reason to root against Shaduur. His
dad's been a little bit of a you know, Prima Donna,
a little diva and Dion I think he's a likable
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kid that needs to go up a little bit. I
wish he played with a little more urgency. Everything kind
of feels casual, but it was a good time yesterday.
Not all relationships have to be thirty year marriages. Holiday
flings are okay. Browns have two first picks, two first
round picks. Their only problem was Shadure. I'm gonna win
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some of these games down the stretch and they may
not be able to get to the Mendoza pick. And
if Dante More stays for another year at Oregon, I
think there's only one or two first round quarterbacks. Maybe
it's a good problem to have in Chicago. It's the Herd.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
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Speaker 7 (33:13):
Day, Fox is serving up a classic NFC North rivalry
because Jordan Love and the Packers take on Jared Goth
and the Lions. Coverage begins at eleven am Eastern with
the pregame show live on location from Detroit, Thanksgiving Day
on Fox.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
It's a great game. My wife grew up in NFC
North territory in Michigan and Chicago, and so very rarely
in her life have the Lions and the Bear's been good.
And I said, it's a great game because the Bears
are on a heater, Green band Detroit are talented, But
I don't feel great about either one of them. I mean, yesterday,
Green Bay clearly didn't think JJ McCarthy could beat them
(33:53):
and had the most conservative game plan of any Green
Bay team I've ever seen. So we'll get to that later.
But I want to talk about Philadelphia lose to Dallas.
So we saw this script two years ago. Eagles got
off to an unbelievable ten in one start, then it
got real noisy, and then they circled the drain and
it went sideways in a hurry. So I'm seeing it again.
(34:16):
Don't tell me everything's okay. I've been preaching this for
six months. Something's not right. You keep telling me, Nick Seriani,
they've got two lee wide receivers, a top three to
zero line, a superstar running back, and they lead the
NFL in three and outs. Stop telling me everything's okay. Well,
Nick Sariani, his strength is managing a locker room. What
(34:38):
is he a babysitter? I mean, that's part of it,
But you gotta be more than that. Saquon Barkley, can
somebody explain it? He looks like a number two back.
I mean last year we thought he was the second
best back after Barry standards we'd ever seen. So it's
if you're an offensive coach, and unquestionably the defense is
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the strength of your team. You have a stacked offensive
roster and yet our bottom ten in offense. Don't tell
me everything's okay. And the other thing you're like, hey,
Nick Sarayani, he is great at managing the locker room.
Then why was it big dumb their security guard that
had to facilitate the AJ Brown Jeffrey Lorie meeting? Is
(35:23):
it that the coach not the security guard? I mean
Phil Jackson, For the record, he was great at managing
egos too, so was Joe Tory. But you know, Joe
Tory could fill out the lineup card and Phil Jackson
and Text Winner were the architects of the triangle offense.
And Phil was a great in game late game chess player,
(35:44):
So I mean, he just everybody just keeps telling me, well,
they're a little uneven uneven. I mean a couple of
weeks ago they led the NFL in punts. How it's
not like they played it. I mean in their division.
Dallas was wonky defensively before all the moves. The Giants
are bad defensively, So I I mean, we all keep
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blaming Jalen Hurts, myself included. I'm over that Jalen Hurts.
He is what he is. You can't be punt punt, punt,
punt punt and tell me, well, it's all Jalen Hurts.
I saw Baker Mayfield win a game with one practice
and Josh Dobbs win a game with no practices. Jalen,
you can't keep blaming Jalen Hurts for all this stuff.
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I mean, twenty four straight points by Dallas. I mean,
that's what you do against the Titans, That's what you
do against the Raiders. The dude, that against Philadelphia's roster.
Here's Jalen after the loss.
Speaker 3 (36:39):
It's a matter of the execution, the discipline and the
focus and what we do and collectively, we just have
to take a step in that.
Speaker 4 (36:45):
It's been.
Speaker 3 (36:47):
A lot of instances where it's showing up and has gottenans,
but we've been able to figure it out and will
ourselves to a win.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
And tonight we didn't.
Speaker 3 (36:54):
You know, we played a hell of the first half
and then we didn't play, you know, not even a
close enough to our standard in the second half who
we've been before.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
We'll figure it out and they may figure it out,
and if they do, let's give Jalen Hurts the credit
or Big Dom. So, I mean, it's not the end
of the world. They're gonna be in a really bad mood.
They're a touchdown j Max says on Friday over the Bears.
It's a rough spot for the Bears. But it's just
you've been telling me for months it's all okay, And
I'm like, I saw this two years ago, and it
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looks a lot like two years ago. I don't even
know what's happened to sake one Barkley. I have no idea.
I mean, is it like arm fatigue in baseball? Where
you go, you know, you go deep in the playoffs,
you come back for spring, and there's arm fatigue. I
don't know what it is. I just know last year
we were talking about one of the great running backs
of all time. He looks like a backup. And again
they have two great receivers, they have good tight ends.
(37:50):
So let me just say this about the Cowboys now.
For years and years I have been critical of quarterbacks
or coaches who on Wednesday at the podium, it's not linebackers, corners,
it's leadership positions. Wearing the hat backwards at the Wednesday podium.
(38:14):
I don't like it. I've never said anything though about
a coach in a locker room wearing his hat on backwards.
I've never talked about that. And I've got to be honest.
I kind of like this yesterday from Shady. Hey.
Speaker 10 (38:29):
We got a lot to celebrate, but I gotta questions.
Can you win the game in the first quarter? Can
you win the game of the second quarter? And we
spot twenty one points?
Speaker 2 (38:44):
What about that?
Speaker 1 (38:49):
When you play only one game a week, those locker
room things are so good. I'll be honest, I'm I've
never really coveted the backward hat like most to my audience.
That doesn't bother me. The post game backwards hat, that
may become a tradition on this show. We may promote
it and market it Wednesday Podium. Don't love it. But
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I will say about Brian Schottenheimer, he's an offensive coach.
What is my rule? How's your side of the ball?
Brenton Venables in Oklahoma, his side of the ball is great.
So Schottenheimer's job is offense. DA's reeling, the old line's
getting better, the run game is working now. Fifteen years
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ago he was thought of as the hot coach, and
then there was a lot of people that felt he
wasn't current, he wasn't keeping up whatever. I was one
of those people. So he's been really, really good. Now
again they're five to five and one. They play the Chiefs.
I don't like him in that game, but there is
an energy. Listen, Jerry Jones. I think it's pretty well
established he doesn't the Parcels and the Jimmy Johnson they're
(39:56):
gonna keep. They're gonna keep Jarah at Bay. They don't
want him the room, they don't want him talking to
the media, and Jerry's like, it's my toy. I'm sorry.
It's a lot more fun than selling oil or finding it.
I like doing this whole GM thing. And Jerry's probably
a little bit better than anybody gives him credit for.
And I didn't think Schottenheimer. I didn't think he was
(40:17):
empowering him. I thought it was kind of a weak move.
But you have to admit the offense, the passing game
right now, it's extraordinary. It's it's it's like the Rams,
they just they are just playing at a different level.
So he deserves a lot of credit. Colin right, Colin wrong.
The whole day, I mean, from shador standers, we got
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coaches getting fired today, to the Dallas Cowboys, to the
Colts having it and losing it. It was it was.
It was a really, really wild Sunday. And I think
what's fascinating. Thanksgiving is always weird. It's a short week.
Do you get the best effort? The green Bay Detroit game,
to me is really interesting. Detroit does not feel nearly
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as precise as last year. Jamiir gave Gibbs saved them yesterday,
So you know, I didn't love it when Detroit lost
both coordinators, both excellent coordinators, and hired only in the building.
I didn't like it. Well, I think I've been proven right.
They're not as sharp, but they're just so talented. The
Lions are so talented, but I don't like the way
(41:26):
they feel. And green Bay, I thought this weekend they
did cover, but that game plan that was an indictment
of JJ McCarthy. They're like, we're just gonna do field goals.
We're gonna make him drive down the field. You had
nothing deep feed us that way, and green Bay was
right
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Ding dong! Join your culture consultants, Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang, on an unforgettable journey into the beating heart of CULTURE. Alongside sizzling special guests, they GET INTO the hottest pop-culture moments of the day and the formative cultural experiences that turned them into Culturistas. Produced by the Big Money Players Network and iHeartRadio.
Crime Junkie
Does hearing about a true crime case always leave you scouring the internet for the truth behind the story? Dive into your next mystery with Crime Junkie. Every Monday, join your host Ashley Flowers as she unravels all the details of infamous and underreported true crime cases with her best friend Brit Prawat. From cold cases to missing persons and heroes in our community who seek justice, Crime Junkie is your destination for theories and stories you won’t hear anywhere else. Whether you're a seasoned true crime enthusiast or new to the genre, you'll find yourself on the edge of your seat awaiting a new episode every Monday. If you can never get enough true crime... Congratulations, you’ve found your people. Follow to join a community of Crime Junkies! Crime Junkie is presented by audiochuck Media Company.