January 7, 2026 • 41 mins
Colin breaks down the John Harbaugh firing in Baltimore, why he will be just fine going forward, and explains why the Packers have been the biggest beneficiary from the new playoff format
He then gives out his head coaching tiers for the current openings around the NFL
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Speaker 1 (00:26):
Oh we got a good one today. It is a Wednesday.
We are live. We are in Los Angeles. It's the Hurd.
Wherever you may be, however you may be listening. Thanks
for making as part of your day. So I got
off the air yesterday and one of the most celebrated
coaches in the NFL, certainly the most celebrated coaching family
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in the NFL, John Harbaugh, after eighteen years, is now
out in Baltimore. And just to give you some sense
about how long eighteen years is, eighteen years ago Philip
Rivers of the San Diego Chargers was beating Vince Young
in a playoff game. So at a long time ago, listen.
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Baltimore is complicated. Lamar Jackson is probably in a singular
city the most worshiped quarterback in the league. Maybe not
Mahomes in Kansas City, but close. He's twenty nine, and
he's clearly this year not the same quarterback, and historically
he's gotten tight in the playoffs. Lamar in the playoffs
is three and five with an eighty four passer rating.
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And this year, and those were in the years he
was in his athletic prime, this year he did not
look like the same. He also carries a massive cap
hit next year, seventy four million. And in the AFC,
quarterbacks like Drake May cap hit less than ten million,
bow Knicks cap hit less than five million. So a
lot of your adversaries, the young guys you'll be facing,
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the Drake Mays, the bow Knicks. They can stack their
rosters and hyper athletic quarterback age quickly. Do you know
the last year Cam Newton was a pro bowler, he
was twenty six. Twenty six, Lamar is twenty nine, and
this year you watch what I watch, he didn't look
the same yet. These old pocket guys Aaron Rodgers forty
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two years old carrying that offense to the playoffs, Tom
Brady mid forties winning a Super Bowl. Matt Stafford's thirty
seven years old, probably gonna win the MVP. So that's
the downside to being a guy that makes a lot
of noise and moves the chains with athletic ability. But
Lamar is so beloved in Baltimore, He's gonna leave when
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he wants to leave. And I bet you I conceived
John Harball. Apparently it was a very long meeting with
Steve Bashatti. John Harbaugh probably said, you do realize I
was eight and four in the playoffs with the Super
Bowl pre Lamar. I'm three and six with Lamar. Everything
can't be about Lamar. He's twenty nine. He wasn't the
same quarterback. He's missed a season full of games with injuries,
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but yet Baltimore and Steve Bashatti says he's still a
top ten quarterback. I mean our merchandise, our ticket sales,
we win ten plus games almost every year. So it's
a complicated story. But RG three was on our show
earlier this week. He played in that locker room, and
it's Lamar's locker room, not the coach's locker room.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
I think Baltimore Ravens fans would burn the city to
the ground if the Ravens traded Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
And I mean that whole hardly.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
If Lamar Jackson had lost the locker room, this would
be a real conversation.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
But I've got great.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
Relationships in that locker room still to this day, and
they love Lamar.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
And they should. Two things will be true. The Ravens
and they'll build around Lamar, are well run, They draft
and develop, and they're gonna win ten plus games going forward.
Who knows. Wouldn't it be funny if they landed Kevin Stefanski,
Cleveland fires him, Baltimore hires him, and he owns the
Browns for the next eight years. Baltimore is gonna win
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a bunch of games, arguably the best run organization in football.
They'll be fine. And John Harbaugh, well, Jim got run
out of San Francisco, Andy Reid got run out of Philadelphia,
and John Harbaugh eighteen years. CEOs don't last eighteen years
at a company, right like, So he'll go somewhere and
do just fine. Atlanta would be interesting, maybe cam moored Tennessee.
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What about the New York Giants? Jackson dart so. But
John Harbaugh is really really good and Lamar Jackson is
still really really good. And I think it came down
to several meetings. Reportedly long, long meetings, and I think
at some point John Harbaugh probably said, you know, I
was eight and four pre Lamar, I'm three and six
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with him. We got to start having discussions. He's missing games,
he's not the same guy. And Lamar is still great.
But that city and that locker room and that organization,
it's all about Lamar. And at some point John Harbaugh
may have said, how many years are we going to
go on this? I mean, you've seen him in the playoffs.
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I'm projecting here, I'm guessing, but I can understand if
there was pushback, where the pushback would come from. And
I think that's one of those situations. I always say this,
like your athletes, don't fall in love with them, don't
worship them, love your kids, love your wife or husband,
don't love your athlete, fall in like with them. But
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in Baltimore, I think Lamar's got so much juice and
so much power. He's still a terrific player, a terrific player.
The Kickers, why they're not in the playoffs, it's not
Lamar Jackson. But these were long meetings. Probably didn't start
with the idea that Harball wouldn't work, But I think
Harball probably pushed back on some things and said, you know,
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I want a lot of games pre Lamar, and you
know Ravens listen to their players. It's Lamar's locker room.
The bar is gonna win a bunch of games. Ravens
are still gonna be really, really good, and hardball is
gonna be just fine. So I do want to talk
about the Packers and the Bears. So all this game
is about. I can't wait for this. It's all about
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the Bears. It's all about Ben Johnson, It's all about
Caleb Williams. It's all about Chicago finally finding the quarterback
there at home. I mean literally, when the Packers are
in a playoff game, usually they're the one that's talked about.
They're like, I mean, they're like the opening act, like
they're the appetizer. The entree is the Chicago Bears, and
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we know Green Bay's well run. But Nick Wright was
on the show yesterday and made an interesting point about
the Packers head coach Matt Lafleur. For a guy who.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
Is just universally respected, is this really good coach? It
is interesting to me that his final year with Rogers,
they were playing in Week eighteen that if they won,
they would be the seventh seed. Then his first year
with Love, they were the seventh seed, and then last year,
his seconde with Love, they were the seventh seed. And
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this year the Packers find themselves as the seventh seed.
Nobody has benefited more from NFL playoff expansion than the
Matt lafore Green Bay Packers.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
So four years in a row, actually they make the playoffs.
If the playoff expansion didn't happen, they would not make
the playoffs. And I think I've always looked at green
Bay differently. They have challenges like the Milwaukee Brewers doing
baseball now competing against the Dodgers, or Wisconsin football has
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competing against Ohio State and Michigan. They don't get the
same players. I think green Bay's got challenges. By the way,
third straight year, green Bay was the youngest team in
the league. Why it's not a place free agents clamor for.
They often have to make a big trade and overpay.
They overpaid for an offense linemen this year. It's the
smallest city, they don't have an owner. Aaron Rodgers is
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still trying to sell his house in green Bay. Matt
Stafford could sell his place on the strand in fifteen minutes.
So green Bay is one of those cities that I've
always looked at them. I always said, if Wisconsin gets
to a Rose Bowl, that's Ohio State winning the national championship.
If Milwaukee gets to you know, if they beat the
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Dodgers in the postseason, that is like a World Series.
They're not going to beat another team and another team.
And I look at Green Bay. I think they've been
remarkably successful, considering they have to largely. I read something
this morning that they had signed for the was it
the third fewest year, Yeah, three straight seasons, the fewest
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free agent signings. Green Bay Packers thirst right, year, youngest team.
I mean, when they made the Mica deal, what was
our reaction to that? Wait, what Packers don't do that.
That's what Philadelphia does, That's what the Rams do. You
know what you look around, you could see that a
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host of teams doing the Micah Parsons deal. We were
all shocked that Green Bay did it. So I just
think differently about green Bay Farvin Rogers and Jordan Love.
It's been like thirty five some years, it feels like
of having elite quarterbacks, and they got two trophies, and
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I think like if the Brewers won a World Series,
if I told you they're gonna win a World Series,
you would be kind of surprised. And the reason you
would be surprised is, well, they just don't have the money.
I mean, the Cubs come out and it's like the
Brewers had these, you know, a great manager, and then
all of a sudden, the he's in Chicago, right down
the road. It's kind of what they deal with. So
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I think Lafleur is a really good coach, but I
do think there are challenges for Green Bay. That's why
I think in North American sports history there's an argument
Green Bay has been the best run NFL franchise the
last thirty five years. I didn't say most production in
terms of trophies, best run, and they've done it without
an owner. It's not attractive to most free agents. Aaron
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Rodgers still is trying to sell his house. Their game
day revenue is good, but is it Philadelphia? Is it
the Rams at Sofi? Is it the New York Giants,
the forty nine Ers, even the Bears. So I think
Lafleur's great, but I kind of bake in the fact
there's some obstacles. It's not as easy as everybody thinks.
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I mean, just think of Green Bay. Go back to
the dry years in Green Bay. If you throw Bart
starr In and then Farv and then Aaron Rodgers and
then Jordan Love go into that space when they didn't
hit on quarterbacks. I mean, I remember those years. They
weren't getting on television, right, So I think Lafleur is really,
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really good. But I always kind of bake in some
disadvantages for the Packers and there you go, third straight
here fewest free agent signings. Staff said this morning, J Mack,
we have some things happening in this in this world
of college football. So we have Todd mcshan one hour.
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His mock draft is fascinating. Jay Mack will tell you
about this around the corner. So ty Simpson has said
I'm gonna go to the NFL. And what's gonna be
fascinating is we talked about this yesterday, So Mendoz is
going on. If Dante Moore doesn't come out, then ty
Simpson is viewed as the second best quarterback. And you
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and I were arguing about this before the show. I said, well,
like seven teams need a quarterback. If there's one position
you could reach on, it's probably quarterback. I think he's
gonna end up going in the first round, and I
think he's a second or third round talent that might
be generous. We'll see.
Speaker 5 (11:58):
I would hate the jests to take of the two.
There's no if you go top ten, you're a franchise savior.
There's a ton of pressure.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
I'll give you an example. I've seen this. You're not
going to deliver. I'll give you an example. Cincinnati Bengals.
Burl's had three major surgeries. Simpson first round. Well, my
take is Burrow's hurt again, you're gonna go back to
the backup.
Speaker 5 (12:17):
Well, but with a healthy Burrow, they're very, very good
in the playoff team.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
So you had they couldn't beat Cleveland at the end
of the season. Let's not let's say Week eighteen shenanigans.
Speaker 5 (12:29):
I mean, I'm just saying, if they could draft the
defensive player, offensive lineman, there's a lot of stuff they
could do.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
Ty Simpson doesn't help you.
Speaker 5 (12:35):
That basically says to Joe Burrow, like that's what the
stuff that the Packers were doing the Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
Yeah, it's worked out. Okay, Packer's got another quarterback. I
just heard you guys hammer and the floor listen right.
Nick Wright was hammering. Yeah, I said, within context, I
think Lafleur's excellent. But Laflora has to deal with obstacles
that McVeagh doesn't, Shanahan does. There even Ben Johnson doesn't.
Nick Sirianni doesn't. So I mean, my ty Simpson, somebody
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is going to overdraft him.
Speaker 5 (13:03):
Should we make it interesting? I say, no way he
goes top ten? No way, no shot. I don't care
what he does at the combine, you know, crushes interviews.
No way, you think he's going top ten. I'm now
Todd mcshay'son.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Do I think he's a top ten Remember when the Steelers,
the Steelers went and got Kenny Pickett. Yeah, did that
work out for that? No? No. I talked to a Super
Bowl winning GM and before the draft, and he said,
Kenny Pickett's a mid third round pick. Pittsburgh needed a quarterback.
By the way, you don't think Pittsburgh now drafting in
low first round forty two year old Aaron Rodgers that
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that makes some sense. THEMS if they have the last
pick in the first round. Because they have the early pick,
they'll go get a tackle. Rams have the last pick
in the first round. They also have a second, a third,
two fifths, a sixth, two sevens. You don't think the
Rams would go.
Speaker 5 (13:58):
Listen, we got our and they have the Falcons pick
as well, So I'm okay with the Rams.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
I could I could see Pittsburgh, I could see the Rams.
I could see Cincinnati. No Ravens Bone, it's Lamar's town.
I could also. Ty Simpson's the opposite of Lamar. He's
strictly Popmar was the opposite of flat go.
Speaker 5 (14:16):
By the way Lamar went like the end of the
first round, that's what we're talking about.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
He was a unique transformational athlete. He did things that
we'd never seen. Ty Simpson's pocket quarterback. So I'm looking
at all these teams. Okay, Mendoza goes to the Raiders.
If ty Simpson is the second highest graded quarterback. My
guess is what a lot of these teams would do
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is trade down to the twelve, thirteen, fourteen, get another pick,
and then reach for him.
Speaker 5 (14:46):
So Cardinals could draft a quarterback, but probably unlikely.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Right, we'll see what the new HOUNDA new coach is okay,
you're Arizona at three, and you can trade down to
eight and get a second round pick.
Speaker 5 (14:58):
I would rather taken off defensive lineman or a defensive
line and then get Malik Willison.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
And then you're eight in Arizona. Will you trade down again?
Do eleven? You could probably still get Ty Simpson. Potentially,
That's what I would do if I was all these Jets, Cardinals, Titans,
Brown's Commanders. I commanders have a quarterback. Titans have Cam Morriden.
James think they have one too, so they won't take
a quarterback. They've got their guy, Tyler Schuchye. Well, we'll
see franchise, franchise. I mean listen, he I will say
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the last six weeks. Six weeks. Hey, lock it up
six weeks. That's your franchise quarterback.
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Speaker 1 (16:12):
You know, I hear this from time to time. Nobody
knows how to draft a quarterback in the NFL. It's
all so random. Twelve of the fourteen playoff quarterbacks were
drafted in the first round. There's two exceptions, Rock Purty
and Jalen Hurtz, and they will meet this weekend in
the Bizarro Bowl. Both have been massively elevated. This is
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how they've made the playoffs, not because they're elite talents.
They've been elevated by other forces. Take Brock perty he Lands,
Kyle Shanahan, who made Matt Shab a pro bowler, Matt
Ryan the MVP, and got Jimmy Garoppolo to the Super Bowl.
Mac Jones' career was over. He started this year for
San Francisco. He had a ninety seven passer rating, completed
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seven percent of his throws five and three. He's not
doing that anywhere else in the league, including with McVeigh.
Kyle Shanahan is the quarterback whisperer. Brock Perty had thirty
three picks in college. That's why he dipped. He was
totally reckless, and yet today he has the highest passer
rating in NFL history, higher than Tom Brady. It's Shanahan.
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Doesn't mean he doesn't have talent, but it's not just
the quarterback in this league. You can if you get
a Kyle Shanahan who has the best play sheet in
the league, be elevated significantly. Take Jalen Hurts, he got
benched in college. Greg Cosell, who looks at film on
the Show with Tom Brady Tomorrow, acknowledges he can't see
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over the middle of the field all the time. He's
five tennis. The Eagles actually win more the fewer times
Jalen Hurts throws. But he's got the best GM in
the lie so brock Perty. He's got the best choreographed
offense in the league. To elevate him doesn't mean he
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doesn't have talent. And Hurtz has the best trade manipulator
and draft picker arguably in the NFL. But let's not
kid ourselves. Twelve of the fourteen teams in the league
have a first round quarterback, so there are some rare examples,
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and Purdy and Jalen Hurts and the Bizarro Bowl on
Fox are examples that if you're good, not special, historically
you get a Shanahan, you get a Howie Roseman. Yeah,
you can win a lot of games. I can't wait
for it. I think it's going to be spectacular. There's
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an AFC executive said this week to Mike Sando, think
San Francisco is gonna win because they have less dysfunction.
They do have more injuries, less dysfunction. And here's Sarianni
on the matchup.
Speaker 7 (19:02):
The amount of big games we play on a yearly
basis in our regular seasons, you know, are huge. Jalen
does a great job of, you know, continuing to raise
his level of play, and so, yeah, he has a
ton of experience. And the quarterback we're playing has a
lot of experience too.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
In the playoffs. A lot of respect to them. I
think this is a really hard game to figure out.
My rule is, ooh is, if you're favored by four
to five, just take the favored team. Vegas would rather
put it three or seven, so probably Philadelphia is probably
the bet. But San Francisco can be very good, very
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good early. That's really important. Buffalo falls behind a lot.
I don't like going on the road to Jacksonville trailing,
getting the crowd ramped up. San Francisco is the opposite.
If you would you be shocked if San Francisco came
out and took a ten dozhing lead eight minutes into
the game, I would not. So it's a fascinating game
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where if anybody can go to Philadelphia and win as
a four to five point underdog, San Francisco is that team.
Looks like Trent Williams, George Kittle, Ricky pearsall, Christian McCaffrey,
Jennings are all gonna play. Fascinating matchup. J Mack with
a news.
Speaker 5 (20:20):
All right, let's start with this Ty Simpson news. He's
leaving Alabama after one year as a starter. That should
be a red flag Listen.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
He is a very.
Speaker 5 (20:29):
Talented college quarterback, moves exceptionally well in the pocket, good
numbers thirty five hundred yards, twenty eight touchdowns.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
Where he goes in the.
Speaker 5 (20:38):
NFL Draft is fascinating, and I'm with you if he goes,
you know, to a McVeigh. A team where the front
office is stable, you don't have to worry about it. Fine, yeah,
they can whiff memorably. Shanahan whiffed on Trey Lance, Shanahan
and Lynter. Fine, they have a great culture, they know how.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
To team build. I'm just telling you, any of these.
Speaker 5 (20:58):
Jets Cardinals, they go, what Ty Simson top ten, It's
going to be a.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
Dizzev But again, I do think there's a play here,
and it's a risk. But if I was Arizona and said, listen,
he's not the number three player, and Arizona mostly you
know this, Arizona offensively's got dudes. They did a defense,
and you're Arizona and you're like, we're gonna go to
from three to eight and get a third and a fourth.
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Then at eight, I'm like, okay, now at least I'm reaching.
But if he graved out to be the nineteenth to
the twentieth best player, Arizona needs both a quarterback and players.
I think the same thing for the Jets. You can't
pick him at two.
Speaker 5 (21:35):
Yeah, so let's drill down on Arizona. So the coach
got fired, right, the GM is still there. The media
was grilling him. I don't know if you saw this, Hey,
you've never drafted an All Pro? Well, how do you
still have your job? Basically to the GM, the new
coach is gonna come and meet with the GM, and
he's gonna be like, what's your planet quarterback? And what
if he says I love Ty Simpson at three? That's
a red flag. John Harbo's not going.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
There, Like, I well, hard Law's too good of a
candidate to consider Arizona.
Speaker 5 (22:01):
Yeah, it's New York Giants as a slam doger. I mean,
they're just the Harballs are not going to consider seven.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
They're not going to Cleveland. Yeah. But even like, if
you're Kevin Stefanski, are you are you?
Speaker 5 (22:10):
Like?
Speaker 1 (22:10):
I agree with you? The running backs are good in Arizona.
Speaker 5 (22:12):
They were injured Marvin Harrison, Michael Wilson McBride.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
Here's a reason. When Steve Kahine was the GM, he
took a swing on Bruce Arians and they had great success.
In fact, eighteen years ago today we talked about Harballs.
Eighteen eighteen years ago today, wasn't Arizona in Pittsburgh in
the Super Bowl? It might be right? Yeah, So you know,
so the point being is Arizona is one of those places,
and I think the Jets have become this that elite
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candidates are not going to consider one hundred percent agree.
So people are saying, well, the Saints gott Tyler Shuck.
Speaker 5 (22:40):
They like him. He's the second round pick. You want
to tell me ty Simpsons the second round pick?
Speaker 1 (22:44):
Great?
Speaker 5 (22:44):
I love that, but again I'm with you. I don't
think you can entertain him going that high. What is
he six one and a half?
Speaker 1 (22:50):
I listen, I fifteen. I'm inconsistent on this. You and
I talk about quarterbacks all the time. The one thing
I look for to be a first round quarterback, you've
got to have a trait that I go wow. So
you and I mostly agree on quarterbacks. We disagreed on
Kyler Murray and my take was he was a more
elusive Russell Wilson. So my take was, Okay, he's got
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a trait. Now. I didn't like the studying thing, the
video game thing, the size, but he threw the prettiest ball.
So I was always higher on Kyler Murray. You've got
to give me. And this is why criticized Kenny Pickett.
There's got to be something as a first round quarterback.
I go, wow. I mean you look at Mendoza, his accuracy,
his size, bang bang aa. So there's nothing with ty Simpson.
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His arm is okay, it's fine, it's NFL arm. His
accuracy is good, it's not Mendoza good. His size, average,
athletic ability average, there's no first round trait to me.
So Jordan Love fell to what late teens? Jordan Love
has NFL size six' four and he's a big, arm big,
arm and he's also a super. Athlete So Jordan love
checked three traite.
Speaker 5 (23:55):
Boxes but like A Ty simpson in that, Range i'm
okay WITH. I just, Again i'm way out on. Him, Toppy,
well you're.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
Gonna lose your. Job agree on. This he will be.
OVERDRAFTED i don't. KNOW i don't think he's going top.
Ten well, no, no, no. NO i think that's a reasonable.
Take BUT i think you get to late first eight
teams need a, quarterback.
Speaker 5 (24:18):
And then you lock him up for the five years
because if you get.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
Him ON i am convinced The, rams if they had
the last pick in the first, round would Be, okay
we got our left, tackle we'll get our corner we
need in the second we'll get a receiver in the
Third DeVante's getting, Older like, LIKE i can see my
team saying we're gonna take. You you don't, know suffrac
who win The Super.
Speaker 5 (24:36):
Bowl and walk?
Speaker 1 (24:36):
Away it can't be. Done, yeah so THAT i don't mind.
That all, Right let's move.
Speaker 5 (24:40):
On interesting, Here Colin Bill belichick obviously struggled In North
carolina in his initial.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
Year but guess.
Speaker 5 (24:45):
What there are SEVEN nfl job, openings and as we've talked,
about not a lot of banger, Candidates so Obviously belichick's
name is going to come. Up he was asked about
it on a.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
Podcast nothing.
Speaker 9 (24:57):
Strange, Yeah i'm where a month, Ago i'm here In North.
CAROLINA i really appreciate the love and support that we've
gotten from the community down, here from the, school From
Chancellor Robert it's the, Ads Bubba, cunney Am Steve, newmark
work With Mike lombardi and our staff. Here we're building
a good program and you, Know i'm excited about the
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direction we're headed.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
In i'm ACTUALLY i think that's kind of. COOL i
like the fact that he's like because he's you, Know Pete,
carroll being, older being hired and bombing out that doesn't help.
Him people look at, that and you know how that.
Works when McVeigh got hired and, won everybody wanted the next.
McVeigh When pete gets hired older and, bombs people, go,
well old guy can't do the old. Guy so AND
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i like the Fact I'm last year it was very
apparent they didn't have any. Players now it's a second.
Year the nil money is pretty. Good they did get.
Better at some point during the. Year they looked like
they were kind of cleaning some stuff. Up BUT i
don't think he's a.
Speaker 5 (25:58):
Candidate let, me is there a team of those seven
openings where the fit could work With? Belichick we'll go
through Him BROWN'S i don't think that's happening. Again, right
he was In cleveland thirty odd. Years it's Not he's
not going To. Cardinals is there any world?
Speaker 1 (26:14):
GOING i will tell you the one job that makes
sense you're gonna. Laugh not The New York, giants No.
Wilkins what's the one job where he doesn't have to
really worry about the offense because he has a SUPERSTAR
Quarterba Baltimore, Ravens New england being the primary. Rival, oh
(26:36):
The Buffalo. Bills Josh allen takes care of the, Offense,
bill build the culture and fix the, defense Because bill
was actually not terrible at drafting, defense and he gets
to go get. Revenge he can't draft skill players to
save his. Life so you can go buy a. Receiver
(26:58):
they got to back and left, Tackle Josh, allen go
fix the, defense build the. Culture that's the ONE i look.
At and by the, Way bill's, like oh, yeah little
Payback james And Robert.
Speaker 5 (27:10):
KRAFFT i don't hate that he says what he has to,
say AND.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
I don't Want bill going anywhere that doesn't have a.
QUARTERBACK i think that he has to rebuild the. Offense
there's no proof that he that's not his. SPACE i
think after That bill's, game things are going to ramp.
Up bill's.
Speaker 5 (27:25):
Win McDermott very likely safe and and you, know we
can move. On but if they happen to lose to The.
Jacks you understand games, It, Belichick and can you.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
Explain jacksonville being a home dog and they, were they
were the better team all Year that a couple of
these lines don't make. Sense that does not MAKE i
don't the. LAW i would have guessed the Line jacksonville
minus four three and a. HALF i think it's respect
For Josh. Allen it has to. BE i don't get
(27:57):
that line at.
Speaker 5 (27:58):
All Story let's go to THE nba Where lebron And
luca both drop thirty on The. Pelicans, hey look At
luca going right At. Zion now you see, Me now
you don't. Splash, oh this was a great. Game lebron
turned back the clock. THIRTY i believe he had thirty
eight and. Eight excellent.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
Game here's what he had to say when talking about
The lakers. Offense listen, closely.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
Folks that's not an issue for me to be able
to go do things THAT i don't.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
KNOW i just don't think people watch. Basketball luca don't
need to be in this. Game luca is Twenty what
hell is it at twenty seven?
Speaker 6 (28:32):
Twenty he's our twenty seven year old franchise for his.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
Ball he don't need to. Ben this game is up To.
Pustle it's a been our game around, him and let's
figure it. Out what do you make of?
Speaker 5 (28:43):
That, WELL i don't know if if he's echoing WHAT
Jj reddick's telling the team or if this is counter To.
REDDICK i like What i'm hearing From lebron it was
a good win last. Night they were down in the third. Quarter,
well why are you?
Speaker 1 (28:55):
Smirking?
Speaker 5 (28:56):
Huh they beat The pelicans and you want to laugh
and just brush it off.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
Laughing I'M i think these franchise this is A i
think they're going for the big splash in the. OFFSEASON
i think this is what The lakers. Are good. Offense
we'll Get you're.
Speaker 5 (29:12):
Gonna have, to you, know narrow that down big splashes.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
IT i will say The lakers are going to make
a massive postseason, move a earth Shattering dodgers level. Move
what did The dodgers? Do Oh, Tawny Freddie, Freeman Rookie, Betts,
dodgers the Great asian. Stars dodgers have gone big and
(29:37):
then they've let like good players Like Trade, turner good, Player,
seger good. Player they go, great there's going to be
a Big we know what The dodgers owners. Do they
Let Manny machado, walk they Let Cody bellinger, walk they
let Let Trade turner. Walk they go find the best.
(29:58):
Blank there's going to be a, massive Massive laker.
Speaker 5 (30:04):
Move you didn't sell your property out here In la
did you got to come back if The lakers telemon
there are a lot of.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
People this is just a let it play. Out let's
just you, know we'll get to the playoffs with the.
Offense it'll be a fun looky. Year don't expect anything
big at the trade. Deadline i'll just say. That don't
expect anything of the trade. Deadline they're gonna play this.
Speaker 5 (30:28):
Out Lakers spurs, Tonight wenby Versus luca two of the
best players in the.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
League LEBRON tvd.
Speaker 5 (30:34):
Because he doesn't know if he could do back to
backs at forty one.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
Years there's your. Future he's not the. Future he's the.
President live in the. Present. Man jmack with the.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
News well that's the, news and thanks for stopping by
the Herd Line.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
News we got good. Stuff college football playoffs starts. Tomorrow
i'm so jacked up for. IT i, mean we went
through a ten year. Stretch it was Like, GEORGIA i
am cloms, It, Indiana, Miami, Ole Miss. Oregon do you
know the last So indiana it's fourteen and oh do
(31:13):
you know the last team to.
Speaker 5 (31:16):
Go sixteen to zero in college? Football yale eighteen ninety.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
Four. Yale so your folks were looking at history With,
indiana it's The.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
Hurt be sure to catch live editions of The herd
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Speaker 5 (31:34):
Pacific, tonight a college hoops doubleheader tips off at Seven
eastern with a Classic Big east rivalry As xavier takes On,
marquette Then Top Frank arizona looks defend off K.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
State all right here ON fs. One one of my
MANTRAS i, believe AND i tell anybody who will, listen
is that don't don't chase money in. Life chase really good.
Management there's a sea of. Money if you're talented and work,
hard there's a finite amount of really good. Management AND
(32:06):
i feel the same way about. Coaching WHEN i see
all these people out, There oh it's rig the. Refs
your coaches aren't good. Enough let me give you an.
Example The Indiana hoosiers fumbled on the eighteenth play of this,
season the eighteenth Play game. One they have not fumbled.
Since on special, teams they lead the entire college football
(32:32):
in fewest, fumbles fewest, turnovers fewest drap, passes, second fewest penalty.
Yards they have not had an errant snap all. Season
the last two years they've had the best red zone
offense and the best third down offense. Efficiency it's not the.
Refs nobody's conspired to eliminate your team from the playoffs
(32:56):
in college or. Pro your team isn't well. Coached by the,
way two most PENALIZED nfl Teams titans and The Dallas.
Cowboys you really think the league wants The cowboys to be?
Rudderless do you really think THE nfl, Says, okay here's
the three teams that are going to disappoint every, Year
New York, Giants New York, jets and The. Cowboys but
(33:17):
we want to make Sure Green bay is really. Good
Green bay is always really. Good buffalo is. Excellent Kurt
signett's team is. Unbelievable they don't get, penalized they don't,
fumble they don't drop, passes no errant snaps one fumble all.
Year it is an unbelievable. Team it is the best
(33:39):
tackling Team i've seen Since Saban's Alabama Crimson. Tide and
if they beat in a Row Ohio state they did
in The Big Den Championship bama and The Rose bowl they,
did And oregon in The, semis it is an all time.
Team Mark cuban this week wrote a massive. Check Mark
cuban did not write the biggest check last year in the.
(34:01):
Portal Mark cuban off the, success wrote a check this,
week big big. Check they're going nowhere and they haven't
done it with five star. Recruits he has turned blue
collar kids into blue chip. Players and here Is signetty
on the matchup Against.
Speaker 6 (34:20):
Oregon that's why it's important to have a blueprint and a.
Plan you, know this business is all about, development recruiting
and retention that have high, standards, expectations accountability throughout your entire.
Organization got to have the write people and your staff
in the locker. Room when guys prepare, correctly that's their
best chance to be. Successful and when they've become, successful
(34:42):
they developed more confidence and belief and it becomes sort
of a snowball.
Speaker 1 (34:47):
Effect, yeah it. Is it's just really. Remarkable it's you
can always tell a well coached. TEAM i remember when
The Patriots belichick was in his prime With. Brady they didn't,
fumble they they didn't get, penalized and everybody's, like oh that.
Rigg you want the most boring coach IN nfl history
(35:08):
to really run the, league who hates the media and
didn't Like. Goodell that's who the league wanted to. Win
this team is so well. Coached it jumps through THE.
Tv they don't drop, passes they don't, fumble they don't get,
penalized they don't have errant. Snaps coaching affects, everything and
when you see bad, coaching you know where it. Starts
(35:29):
your team is. Loose The cowboys have been loose since
Like parcels And Jimmy johnson. Left didn't it feel like
The cowboys are always one of the most penalized teams
in the. League coaches affect that that's not the, refs
that's your. COACH i saw this. Story this was. Weird you,
(35:50):
Know i'm pro nil and pro transfer, portal BUT i
think my kids should have, cake just not for. Breakfast
there's guidelines on. Everything So Damon, williams junior good Quarterback
university Of, washington signed with the. Team i'm gonna stay At,
washington sign the, contract and then said nat enter the.
(36:12):
Portal you gotta have rules with this stuff pro. Football
you can't sign contracts and, say, well the guy over
on the other team signed a bigger. Contract i'm gonna
put myself in free. Agency you've got to have. Rules
Damon williams signed a, contract and for the, record you
(36:33):
know why he wants out Because Texas tech went and
paid their quarterback five million. Dollars he looked at it and,
thought what AM i making? TOO i want to go
back into the. Portal, dude you sign a. CONTRACT i
you know you can't go the. End college football used
(36:53):
to be the strictest. Parent now there's no. Parent they
went from helicopter to home. Alone there's no. Parents THE
ncaa has got to step in. Here you can't just
let guys. Go Willy nielly and the players can't win every.
Time in THE. Nfl sometimes the players, win but not
all the. Time sometimes. Time right now in THE, Nfl
Jordan love makes more Than Josh allen. Timing Trevor lawrence
(37:17):
makes more Than Josh allen. Timing you. KNOW i, Mean
Tom brady was rarely the highest paid quarterback in the.
League whoever signs the new contract for about six months
is the highest paid. Quarterback then they're not for four.
Years SO i don't think it's a coincidence That Texas,
tech who's got a lot of, money went and bought
a quarterback From, cincinnati and then this young guy At washington, says,
(37:38):
oh be, here, sorry. Pal players can't win all the.
Time AND i am completely PRO, nil but there's got
to be some guardrails on this. Stuff and WHENEVER i
hear we'll coaches leave all the. Time they don't sign
contracts and the next day, SAY i saw what the
guy signed At. MICHIGAN i want a new. Contract they
(38:00):
don't do. That but THE ncaa is so toothless and
weak and lacks the. ABILITY i, mean they couldn't figure
out THE nil was coming five years when everybody was
talking about THE nil was. Coming so at some point you,
gotta at some point have rules in college. Football we
have rules in pro football with free agency and. Moving
(38:24):
got to have. Something contracts have to mean. SOMETHING i,
Mean i'm not saying contracts don't you. Know some contracts
are you, know, written and you know eventually they'll get.
Rewritten we see this all the. Time Lamar jackson's cap
hit for The ravens next, year seventy four. Million they're
going to tear it up and redo it and do
more guaranteed money and lower it in the high. Forties
(38:45):
but that's mutually agreed upon, Well washington's, like, Timeout we're
not letting you. Go you can't just go because you
want to. Go there's, contracts, okay j. Mac so the utter,
story the big story yesterday and today Is John harbaugh
is now on the. Market so for those interests That
(39:09):
John harbaugh's in the, market at the top of next,
hour we'll give. You so now there's seven teams looking
for a. Coach we went from a very bad, market
like there's no. Coat we were saying this this, week
like who do you? Hire Now i've Got John harbaugh
and Now i've Got Kevin. Stefanski now let's Say Jeff
hafley becomes your third best. Candidate, well that's a pretty
good candidate as a third or fourth, Best like like right,
(39:32):
Now Jeff hafley is your. Fastball maybe Not Jeff halfley
is your fourth. Pitch, okay that's a pretty good. Candidate
you haven't ahead of the guys like Mintor. Kingsbury i'd
be saying my take would Be harball One. Stefanski that's very.
Clear and THEN i think you get into the you,
Know mike McCarthy wins twelve games a, year like how
many TIMES i Think jesse, mentor but he's never been
(39:54):
a head. COACH i think you get into a group
at the third pitch that's pretty darn.
Speaker 5 (39:59):
Saw, yeah The harball one's interesting because he kind of
can fit. Anywhere BUT i think he'd only take a
team that's kind of, close, right WOULDN'T.
Speaker 1 (40:07):
I argue This harbaugh's best fit is in some place
with a broken, culture because he's not going to be
a play, caller like for, Instance stefanski as a play
caller could go To baltimore With. Lamar they don't need
a culture. Guy the culture's. Great baltimore's culture is, unbelievable
but they need somebody to Get lamar happy and. Right
(40:30):
but remember we just talked about.
Speaker 5 (40:32):
It the teams that pay their quarterback the, most all
of a, sudden they're not making the playoffs because you
can't build around.
Speaker 1 (40:36):
Them so Does stefanski look.
Speaker 5 (40:38):
At The lamar situation be, like you guys got to
clean up these Ball, NO i.
Speaker 1 (40:41):
Think we need offensive line. Thing baltimore's like The packers
when they have an, opening take. It it's so well,
run you take, it.
Speaker 5 (40:47):
So you would take so you have that job as
the best one by Far. Baltimore, OH i mean top three,
owner top, five.
Speaker 1 (40:57):
Top eight. Quarterback we don't know Quite labar had a
Weird lamar's top seven eight. Quarterback we don't know. Exactly
he's twenty, nine he, Was he's missed seventeen starts, like
we don't know, exactly but he's still very. GOOD i
Think baltimore's the. Job then we you AND i can
argue over the second. JOB i think both of us
like the personnel In atlanta offensively in a weak. Division
(41:18):
i'm starting to warm up to The New York. Giants
there's some pieces in place. There they could. Be they
could have the second most talent in the. Division but
But baltimore doesn't need a culture. Setter, okay that's what
The chargers needed With, Harball So sefanski can he can
just get on the headset and Get lamar. Happy The
giants need a culture. Guy, that to me Is harriball.
(41:40):
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Speaker 1 (00:26):
Oh we got a good one today. It is a Wednesday.
We are live. We are in Los Angeles. It's the Hurd.
Wherever you may be, however you may be listening. Thanks
for making as part of your day. So I got
off the air yesterday and one of the most celebrated
coaches in the NFL, certainly the most celebrated coaching family
(00:50):
in the NFL, John Harbaugh, after eighteen years, is now
out in Baltimore. And just to give you some sense
about how long eighteen years is, eighteen years ago Philip
Rivers of the San Diego Chargers was beating Vince Young
in a playoff game. So at a long time ago, listen.
(01:10):
Baltimore is complicated. Lamar Jackson is probably in a singular
city the most worshiped quarterback in the league. Maybe not
Mahomes in Kansas City, but close. He's twenty nine, and
he's clearly this year not the same quarterback, and historically
he's gotten tight in the playoffs. Lamar in the playoffs
is three and five with an eighty four passer rating.
(01:31):
And this year, and those were in the years he
was in his athletic prime, this year he did not
look like the same. He also carries a massive cap
hit next year, seventy four million. And in the AFC,
quarterbacks like Drake May cap hit less than ten million,
bow Knicks cap hit less than five million. So a
lot of your adversaries, the young guys you'll be facing,
(01:54):
the Drake Mays, the bow Knicks. They can stack their
rosters and hyper athletic quarterback age quickly. Do you know
the last year Cam Newton was a pro bowler, he
was twenty six. Twenty six, Lamar is twenty nine, and
this year you watch what I watch, he didn't look
the same yet. These old pocket guys Aaron Rodgers forty
(02:17):
two years old carrying that offense to the playoffs, Tom
Brady mid forties winning a Super Bowl. Matt Stafford's thirty
seven years old, probably gonna win the MVP. So that's
the downside to being a guy that makes a lot
of noise and moves the chains with athletic ability. But
Lamar is so beloved in Baltimore, He's gonna leave when
(02:37):
he wants to leave. And I bet you I conceived
John Harball. Apparently it was a very long meeting with
Steve Bashatti. John Harbaugh probably said, you do realize I
was eight and four in the playoffs with the Super
Bowl pre Lamar. I'm three and six with Lamar. Everything
can't be about Lamar. He's twenty nine. He wasn't the
same quarterback. He's missed a season full of games with injuries,
(03:01):
but yet Baltimore and Steve Bashatti says he's still a
top ten quarterback. I mean our merchandise, our ticket sales,
we win ten plus games almost every year. So it's
a complicated story. But RG three was on our show
earlier this week. He played in that locker room, and
it's Lamar's locker room, not the coach's locker room.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
I think Baltimore Ravens fans would burn the city to
the ground if the Ravens traded Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
And I mean that whole hardly.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
If Lamar Jackson had lost the locker room, this would
be a real conversation.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
But I've got great.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
Relationships in that locker room still to this day, and
they love Lamar.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
And they should. Two things will be true. The Ravens
and they'll build around Lamar, are well run, They draft
and develop, and they're gonna win ten plus games going forward.
Who knows. Wouldn't it be funny if they landed Kevin Stefanski,
Cleveland fires him, Baltimore hires him, and he owns the
Browns for the next eight years. Baltimore is gonna win
(04:01):
a bunch of games, arguably the best run organization in football.
They'll be fine. And John Harbaugh, well, Jim got run
out of San Francisco, Andy Reid got run out of Philadelphia,
and John Harbaugh eighteen years. CEOs don't last eighteen years
at a company, right like, So he'll go somewhere and
do just fine. Atlanta would be interesting, maybe cam moored Tennessee.
(04:23):
What about the New York Giants? Jackson dart so. But
John Harbaugh is really really good and Lamar Jackson is
still really really good. And I think it came down
to several meetings. Reportedly long, long meetings, and I think
at some point John Harbaugh probably said, you know, I
was eight and four pre Lamar, I'm three and six
(04:44):
with him. We got to start having discussions. He's missing games,
he's not the same guy. And Lamar is still great.
But that city and that locker room and that organization,
it's all about Lamar. And at some point John Harbaugh
may have said, how many years are we going to
go on this? I mean, you've seen him in the playoffs.
(05:09):
I'm projecting here, I'm guessing, but I can understand if
there was pushback, where the pushback would come from. And
I think that's one of those situations. I always say this,
like your athletes, don't fall in love with them, don't
worship them, love your kids, love your wife or husband,
don't love your athlete, fall in like with them. But
(05:30):
in Baltimore, I think Lamar's got so much juice and
so much power. He's still a terrific player, a terrific player.
The Kickers, why they're not in the playoffs, it's not
Lamar Jackson. But these were long meetings. Probably didn't start
with the idea that Harball wouldn't work, But I think
Harball probably pushed back on some things and said, you know,
(05:51):
I want a lot of games pre Lamar, and you
know Ravens listen to their players. It's Lamar's locker room.
The bar is gonna win a bunch of games. Ravens
are still gonna be really, really good, and hardball is
gonna be just fine. So I do want to talk
about the Packers and the Bears. So all this game
is about. I can't wait for this. It's all about
(06:13):
the Bears. It's all about Ben Johnson, It's all about
Caleb Williams. It's all about Chicago finally finding the quarterback
there at home. I mean literally, when the Packers are
in a playoff game, usually they're the one that's talked about.
They're like, I mean, they're like the opening act, like
they're the appetizer. The entree is the Chicago Bears, and
(06:38):
we know Green Bay's well run. But Nick Wright was
on the show yesterday and made an interesting point about
the Packers head coach Matt Lafleur. For a guy who.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
Is just universally respected, is this really good coach? It
is interesting to me that his final year with Rogers,
they were playing in Week eighteen that if they won,
they would be the seventh seed. Then his first year
with Love, they were the seventh seed, and then last year,
his seconde with Love, they were the seventh seed. And
(07:10):
this year the Packers find themselves as the seventh seed.
Nobody has benefited more from NFL playoff expansion than the
Matt lafore Green Bay Packers.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
So four years in a row, actually they make the playoffs.
If the playoff expansion didn't happen, they would not make
the playoffs. And I think I've always looked at green
Bay differently. They have challenges like the Milwaukee Brewers doing
baseball now competing against the Dodgers, or Wisconsin football has
(07:42):
competing against Ohio State and Michigan. They don't get the
same players. I think green Bay's got challenges. By the way,
third straight year, green Bay was the youngest team in
the league. Why it's not a place free agents clamor for.
They often have to make a big trade and overpay.
They overpaid for an offense linemen this year. It's the
smallest city, they don't have an owner. Aaron Rodgers is
(08:04):
still trying to sell his house in green Bay. Matt
Stafford could sell his place on the strand in fifteen minutes.
So green Bay is one of those cities that I've
always looked at them. I always said, if Wisconsin gets
to a Rose Bowl, that's Ohio State winning the national championship.
If Milwaukee gets to you know, if they beat the
(08:25):
Dodgers in the postseason, that is like a World Series.
They're not going to beat another team and another team.
And I look at Green Bay. I think they've been
remarkably successful, considering they have to largely. I read something
this morning that they had signed for the was it
the third fewest year, Yeah, three straight seasons, the fewest
(08:46):
free agent signings. Green Bay Packers thirst right, year, youngest team.
I mean, when they made the Mica deal, what was
our reaction to that? Wait, what Packers don't do that.
That's what Philadelphia does, That's what the Rams do. You
know what you look around, you could see that a
(09:08):
host of teams doing the Micah Parsons deal. We were
all shocked that Green Bay did it. So I just
think differently about green Bay Farvin Rogers and Jordan Love.
It's been like thirty five some years, it feels like
of having elite quarterbacks, and they got two trophies, and
(09:30):
I think like if the Brewers won a World Series,
if I told you they're gonna win a World Series,
you would be kind of surprised. And the reason you
would be surprised is, well, they just don't have the money.
I mean, the Cubs come out and it's like the
Brewers had these, you know, a great manager, and then
all of a sudden, the he's in Chicago, right down
the road. It's kind of what they deal with. So
(09:53):
I think Lafleur is a really good coach, but I
do think there are challenges for Green Bay. That's why
I think in North American sports history there's an argument
Green Bay has been the best run NFL franchise the
last thirty five years. I didn't say most production in
terms of trophies, best run, and they've done it without
an owner. It's not attractive to most free agents. Aaron
(10:16):
Rodgers still is trying to sell his house. Their game
day revenue is good, but is it Philadelphia? Is it
the Rams at Sofi? Is it the New York Giants,
the forty nine Ers, even the Bears. So I think
Lafleur's great, but I kind of bake in the fact
there's some obstacles. It's not as easy as everybody thinks.
(10:38):
I mean, just think of Green Bay. Go back to
the dry years in Green Bay. If you throw Bart
starr In and then Farv and then Aaron Rodgers and
then Jordan Love go into that space when they didn't
hit on quarterbacks. I mean, I remember those years. They
weren't getting on television, right, So I think Lafleur is really,
(11:01):
really good. But I always kind of bake in some
disadvantages for the Packers and there you go, third straight
here fewest free agent signings. Staff said this morning, J Mack,
we have some things happening in this in this world
of college football. So we have Todd mcshan one hour.
(11:22):
His mock draft is fascinating. Jay Mack will tell you
about this around the corner. So ty Simpson has said
I'm gonna go to the NFL. And what's gonna be
fascinating is we talked about this yesterday, So Mendoz is
going on. If Dante Moore doesn't come out, then ty
Simpson is viewed as the second best quarterback. And you
(11:43):
and I were arguing about this before the show. I said, well,
like seven teams need a quarterback. If there's one position
you could reach on, it's probably quarterback. I think he's
gonna end up going in the first round, and I
think he's a second or third round talent that might
be generous. We'll see.
Speaker 5 (11:58):
I would hate the jests to take of the two.
There's no if you go top ten, you're a franchise savior.
There's a ton of pressure.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
I'll give you an example. I've seen this. You're not
going to deliver. I'll give you an example. Cincinnati Bengals.
Burl's had three major surgeries. Simpson first round. Well, my
take is Burrow's hurt again, you're gonna go back to
the backup.
Speaker 5 (12:17):
Well, but with a healthy Burrow, they're very, very good
in the playoff team.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
So you had they couldn't beat Cleveland at the end
of the season. Let's not let's say Week eighteen shenanigans.
Speaker 5 (12:29):
I mean, I'm just saying, if they could draft the
defensive player, offensive lineman, there's a lot of stuff they
could do.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
Ty Simpson doesn't help you.
Speaker 5 (12:35):
That basically says to Joe Burrow, like that's what the
stuff that the Packers were doing the Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
Yeah, it's worked out. Okay, Packer's got another quarterback. I
just heard you guys hammer and the floor listen right.
Nick Wright was hammering. Yeah, I said, within context, I
think Lafleur's excellent. But Laflora has to deal with obstacles
that McVeagh doesn't, Shanahan does. There even Ben Johnson doesn't.
Nick Sirianni doesn't. So I mean, my ty Simpson, somebody
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is going to overdraft him.
Speaker 5 (13:03):
Should we make it interesting? I say, no way he
goes top ten? No way, no shot. I don't care
what he does at the combine, you know, crushes interviews.
No way, you think he's going top ten. I'm now
Todd mcshay'son.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Do I think he's a top ten Remember when the Steelers,
the Steelers went and got Kenny Pickett. Yeah, did that
work out for that? No? No. I talked to a Super
Bowl winning GM and before the draft, and he said,
Kenny Pickett's a mid third round pick. Pittsburgh needed a quarterback.
By the way, you don't think Pittsburgh now drafting in
low first round forty two year old Aaron Rodgers that
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that makes some sense. THEMS if they have the last
pick in the first round. Because they have the early pick,
they'll go get a tackle. Rams have the last pick
in the first round. They also have a second, a third,
two fifths, a sixth, two sevens. You don't think the
Rams would go.
Speaker 5 (13:58):
Listen, we got our and they have the Falcons pick
as well, So I'm okay with the Rams.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
I could I could see Pittsburgh, I could see the Rams.
I could see Cincinnati. No Ravens Bone, it's Lamar's town.
I could also. Ty Simpson's the opposite of Lamar. He's
strictly Popmar was the opposite of flat go.
Speaker 5 (14:16):
By the way Lamar went like the end of the
first round, that's what we're talking about.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
He was a unique transformational athlete. He did things that
we'd never seen. Ty Simpson's pocket quarterback. So I'm looking
at all these teams. Okay, Mendoza goes to the Raiders.
If ty Simpson is the second highest graded quarterback. My
guess is what a lot of these teams would do
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is trade down to the twelve, thirteen, fourteen, get another pick,
and then reach for him.
Speaker 5 (14:46):
So Cardinals could draft a quarterback, but probably unlikely.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Right, we'll see what the new HOUNDA new coach is okay,
you're Arizona at three, and you can trade down to
eight and get a second round pick.
Speaker 5 (14:58):
I would rather taken off defensive lineman or a defensive
line and then get Malik Willison.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
And then you're eight in Arizona. Will you trade down again?
Do eleven? You could probably still get Ty Simpson. Potentially,
That's what I would do if I was all these Jets, Cardinals, Titans,
Brown's Commanders. I commanders have a quarterback. Titans have Cam Morriden.
James think they have one too, so they won't take
a quarterback. They've got their guy, Tyler Schuchye. Well, we'll
see franchise, franchise. I mean listen, he I will say
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the last six weeks. Six weeks. Hey, lock it up
six weeks. That's your franchise quarterback.
Speaker 6 (15:31):
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Speaker 1 (16:12):
You know, I hear this from time to time. Nobody
knows how to draft a quarterback in the NFL. It's
all so random. Twelve of the fourteen playoff quarterbacks were
drafted in the first round. There's two exceptions, Rock Purty
and Jalen Hurtz, and they will meet this weekend in
the Bizarro Bowl. Both have been massively elevated. This is
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how they've made the playoffs, not because they're elite talents.
They've been elevated by other forces. Take Brock perty he Lands,
Kyle Shanahan, who made Matt Shab a pro bowler, Matt
Ryan the MVP, and got Jimmy Garoppolo to the Super Bowl.
Mac Jones' career was over. He started this year for
San Francisco. He had a ninety seven passer rating, completed
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seven percent of his throws five and three. He's not
doing that anywhere else in the league, including with McVeigh.
Kyle Shanahan is the quarterback whisperer. Brock Perty had thirty
three picks in college. That's why he dipped. He was
totally reckless, and yet today he has the highest passer
rating in NFL history, higher than Tom Brady. It's Shanahan.
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Doesn't mean he doesn't have talent, but it's not just
the quarterback in this league. You can if you get
a Kyle Shanahan who has the best play sheet in
the league, be elevated significantly. Take Jalen Hurts, he got
benched in college. Greg Cosell, who looks at film on
the Show with Tom Brady Tomorrow, acknowledges he can't see
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over the middle of the field all the time. He's
five tennis. The Eagles actually win more the fewer times
Jalen Hurts throws. But he's got the best GM in
the lie so brock Perty. He's got the best choreographed
offense in the league. To elevate him doesn't mean he
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doesn't have talent. And Hurtz has the best trade manipulator
and draft picker arguably in the NFL. But let's not
kid ourselves. Twelve of the fourteen teams in the league
have a first round quarterback, so there are some rare examples,
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and Purdy and Jalen Hurts and the Bizarro Bowl on
Fox are examples that if you're good, not special, historically
you get a Shanahan, you get a Howie Roseman. Yeah,
you can win a lot of games. I can't wait
for it. I think it's going to be spectacular. There's
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an AFC executive said this week to Mike Sando, think
San Francisco is gonna win because they have less dysfunction.
They do have more injuries, less dysfunction. And here's Sarianni
on the matchup.
Speaker 7 (19:02):
The amount of big games we play on a yearly
basis in our regular seasons, you know, are huge. Jalen
does a great job of, you know, continuing to raise
his level of play, and so, yeah, he has a
ton of experience. And the quarterback we're playing has a
lot of experience too.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
In the playoffs. A lot of respect to them. I
think this is a really hard game to figure out.
My rule is, ooh is, if you're favored by four
to five, just take the favored team. Vegas would rather
put it three or seven, so probably Philadelphia is probably
the bet. But San Francisco can be very good, very
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good early. That's really important. Buffalo falls behind a lot.
I don't like going on the road to Jacksonville trailing,
getting the crowd ramped up. San Francisco is the opposite.
If you would you be shocked if San Francisco came
out and took a ten dozhing lead eight minutes into
the game, I would not. So it's a fascinating game
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where if anybody can go to Philadelphia and win as
a four to five point underdog, San Francisco is that team.
Looks like Trent Williams, George Kittle, Ricky pearsall, Christian McCaffrey,
Jennings are all gonna play. Fascinating matchup. J Mack with
a news.
Speaker 5 (20:20):
All right, let's start with this Ty Simpson news. He's
leaving Alabama after one year as a starter. That should
be a red flag Listen.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
He is a very.
Speaker 5 (20:29):
Talented college quarterback, moves exceptionally well in the pocket, good
numbers thirty five hundred yards, twenty eight touchdowns.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
Where he goes in the.
Speaker 5 (20:38):
NFL Draft is fascinating, and I'm with you if he goes,
you know, to a McVeigh. A team where the front
office is stable, you don't have to worry about it. Fine, yeah,
they can whiff memorably. Shanahan whiffed on Trey Lance, Shanahan
and Lynter. Fine, they have a great culture, they know how.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
To team build. I'm just telling you, any of these.
Speaker 5 (20:58):
Jets Cardinals, they go, what Ty Simson top ten, It's
going to be a.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
Dizzev But again, I do think there's a play here,
and it's a risk. But if I was Arizona and said, listen,
he's not the number three player, and Arizona mostly you
know this, Arizona offensively's got dudes. They did a defense,
and you're Arizona and you're like, we're gonna go to
from three to eight and get a third and a fourth.
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Then at eight, I'm like, okay, now at least I'm reaching.
But if he graved out to be the nineteenth to
the twentieth best player, Arizona needs both a quarterback and players.
I think the same thing for the Jets. You can't
pick him at two.
Speaker 5 (21:35):
Yeah, so let's drill down on Arizona. So the coach
got fired, right, the GM is still there. The media
was grilling him. I don't know if you saw this, Hey,
you've never drafted an All Pro? Well, how do you
still have your job? Basically to the GM, the new
coach is gonna come and meet with the GM, and
he's gonna be like, what's your planet quarterback? And what
if he says I love Ty Simpson at three? That's
a red flag. John Harbo's not going.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
There, Like, I well, hard Law's too good of a
candidate to consider Arizona.
Speaker 5 (22:01):
Yeah, it's New York Giants as a slam doger. I mean,
they're just the Harballs are not going to consider seven.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
They're not going to Cleveland. Yeah. But even like, if
you're Kevin Stefanski, are you are you?
Speaker 5 (22:10):
Like?
Speaker 1 (22:10):
I agree with you? The running backs are good in Arizona.
Speaker 5 (22:12):
They were injured Marvin Harrison, Michael Wilson McBride.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
Here's a reason. When Steve Kahine was the GM, he
took a swing on Bruce Arians and they had great success.
In fact, eighteen years ago today we talked about Harballs.
Eighteen eighteen years ago today, wasn't Arizona in Pittsburgh in
the Super Bowl? It might be right? Yeah, So you know,
so the point being is Arizona is one of those places,
and I think the Jets have become this that elite
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candidates are not going to consider one hundred percent agree.
So people are saying, well, the Saints gott Tyler Shuck.
Speaker 5 (22:40):
They like him. He's the second round pick. You want
to tell me ty Simpsons the second round pick?
Speaker 1 (22:44):
Great?
Speaker 5 (22:44):
I love that, but again I'm with you. I don't
think you can entertain him going that high. What is
he six one and a half?
Speaker 1 (22:50):
I listen, I fifteen. I'm inconsistent on this. You and
I talk about quarterbacks all the time. The one thing
I look for to be a first round quarterback, you've
got to have a trait that I go wow. So
you and I mostly agree on quarterbacks. We disagreed on
Kyler Murray and my take was he was a more
elusive Russell Wilson. So my take was, Okay, he's got
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a trait. Now. I didn't like the studying thing, the
video game thing, the size, but he threw the prettiest ball.
So I was always higher on Kyler Murray. You've got
to give me. And this is why criticized Kenny Pickett.
There's got to be something as a first round quarterback.
I go, wow. I mean you look at Mendoza, his accuracy,
his size, bang bang aa. So there's nothing with ty Simpson.
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His arm is okay, it's fine, it's NFL arm. His
accuracy is good, it's not Mendoza good. His size, average,
athletic ability average, there's no first round trait to me.
So Jordan Love fell to what late teens? Jordan Love
has NFL size six' four and he's a big, arm big,
arm and he's also a super. Athlete So Jordan love
checked three traite.
Speaker 5 (23:55):
Boxes but like A Ty simpson in that, Range i'm
okay WITH. I just, Again i'm way out on. Him, Toppy,
well you're.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
Gonna lose your. Job agree on. This he will be.
OVERDRAFTED i don't. KNOW i don't think he's going top.
Ten well, no, no, no. NO i think that's a reasonable.
Take BUT i think you get to late first eight
teams need a, quarterback.
Speaker 5 (24:18):
And then you lock him up for the five years
because if you get.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
Him ON i am convinced The, rams if they had
the last pick in the first, round would Be, okay
we got our left, tackle we'll get our corner we
need in the second we'll get a receiver in the
Third DeVante's getting, Older like, LIKE i can see my
team saying we're gonna take. You you don't, know suffrac
who win The Super.
Speaker 5 (24:36):
Bowl and walk?
Speaker 1 (24:36):
Away it can't be. Done, yeah so THAT i don't mind.
That all, Right let's move.
Speaker 5 (24:40):
On interesting, Here Colin Bill belichick obviously struggled In North
carolina in his initial.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
Year but guess.
Speaker 5 (24:45):
What there are SEVEN nfl job, openings and as we've talked,
about not a lot of banger, Candidates so Obviously belichick's
name is going to come. Up he was asked about
it on a.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
Podcast nothing.
Speaker 9 (24:57):
Strange, Yeah i'm where a month, Ago i'm here In North.
CAROLINA i really appreciate the love and support that we've
gotten from the community down, here from the, school From
Chancellor Robert it's the, Ads Bubba, cunney Am Steve, newmark
work With Mike lombardi and our staff. Here we're building
a good program and you, Know i'm excited about the
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direction we're headed.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
In i'm ACTUALLY i think that's kind of. COOL i
like the fact that he's like because he's you, Know Pete,
carroll being, older being hired and bombing out that doesn't help.
Him people look at, that and you know how that.
Works when McVeigh got hired and, won everybody wanted the next.
McVeigh When pete gets hired older and, bombs people, go,
well old guy can't do the old. Guy so AND
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i like the Fact I'm last year it was very
apparent they didn't have any. Players now it's a second.
Year the nil money is pretty. Good they did get.
Better at some point during the. Year they looked like
they were kind of cleaning some stuff. Up BUT i
don't think he's a.
Speaker 5 (25:58):
Candidate let, me is there a team of those seven
openings where the fit could work With? Belichick we'll go
through Him BROWN'S i don't think that's happening. Again, right
he was In cleveland thirty odd. Years it's Not he's
not going To. Cardinals is there any world?
Speaker 1 (26:14):
GOING i will tell you the one job that makes
sense you're gonna. Laugh not The New York, giants No.
Wilkins what's the one job where he doesn't have to
really worry about the offense because he has a SUPERSTAR
Quarterba Baltimore, Ravens New england being the primary. Rival, oh
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The Buffalo. Bills Josh allen takes care of the, Offense,
bill build the culture and fix the, defense Because bill
was actually not terrible at drafting, defense and he gets
to go get. Revenge he can't draft skill players to
save his. Life so you can go buy a. Receiver
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they got to back and left, Tackle Josh, allen go
fix the, defense build the. Culture that's the ONE i look.
At and by the, Way bill's, like oh, yeah little
Payback james And Robert.
Speaker 5 (27:10):
KRAFFT i don't hate that he says what he has to,
say AND.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
I don't Want bill going anywhere that doesn't have a.
QUARTERBACK i think that he has to rebuild the. Offense
there's no proof that he that's not his. SPACE i
think after That bill's, game things are going to ramp.
Up bill's.
Speaker 5 (27:25):
Win McDermott very likely safe and and you, know we
can move. On but if they happen to lose to The.
Jacks you understand games, It, Belichick and can you.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
Explain jacksonville being a home dog and they, were they
were the better team all Year that a couple of
these lines don't make. Sense that does not MAKE i
don't the. LAW i would have guessed the Line jacksonville
minus four three and a. HALF i think it's respect
For Josh. Allen it has to. BE i don't get
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that line at.
Speaker 5 (27:58):
All Story let's go to THE nba Where lebron And
luca both drop thirty on The. Pelicans, hey look At
luca going right At. Zion now you see, Me now
you don't. Splash, oh this was a great. Game lebron
turned back the clock. THIRTY i believe he had thirty
eight and. Eight excellent.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
Game here's what he had to say when talking about
The lakers. Offense listen, closely.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
Folks that's not an issue for me to be able
to go do things THAT i don't.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
KNOW i just don't think people watch. Basketball luca don't
need to be in this. Game luca is Twenty what
hell is it at twenty seven?
Speaker 6 (28:32):
Twenty he's our twenty seven year old franchise for his.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
Ball he don't need to. Ben this game is up To.
Pustle it's a been our game around, him and let's
figure it. Out what do you make of?
Speaker 5 (28:43):
That, WELL i don't know if if he's echoing WHAT
Jj reddick's telling the team or if this is counter To.
REDDICK i like What i'm hearing From lebron it was
a good win last. Night they were down in the third. Quarter,
well why are you?
Speaker 1 (28:55):
Smirking?
Speaker 5 (28:56):
Huh they beat The pelicans and you want to laugh
and just brush it off.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
Laughing I'M i think these franchise this is A i
think they're going for the big splash in the. OFFSEASON
i think this is what The lakers. Are good. Offense
we'll Get you're.
Speaker 5 (29:12):
Gonna have, to you, know narrow that down big splashes.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
IT i will say The lakers are going to make
a massive postseason, move a earth Shattering dodgers level. Move
what did The dodgers? Do Oh, Tawny Freddie, Freeman Rookie, Betts,
dodgers the Great asian. Stars dodgers have gone big and
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then they've let like good players Like Trade, turner good, Player,
seger good. Player they go, great there's going to be
a Big we know what The dodgers owners. Do they
Let Manny machado, walk they Let Cody bellinger, walk they
let Let Trade turner. Walk they go find the best.
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Blank there's going to be a, massive Massive laker.
Speaker 5 (30:04):
Move you didn't sell your property out here In la
did you got to come back if The lakers telemon
there are a lot of.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
People this is just a let it play. Out let's
just you, know we'll get to the playoffs with the.
Offense it'll be a fun looky. Year don't expect anything
big at the trade. Deadline i'll just say. That don't
expect anything of the trade. Deadline they're gonna play this.
Speaker 5 (30:28):
Out Lakers spurs, Tonight wenby Versus luca two of the
best players in the.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
League LEBRON tvd.
Speaker 5 (30:34):
Because he doesn't know if he could do back to
backs at forty one.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
Years there's your. Future he's not the. Future he's the.
President live in the. Present. Man jmack with the.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
News well that's the, news and thanks for stopping by
the Herd Line.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
News we got good. Stuff college football playoffs starts. Tomorrow
i'm so jacked up for. IT i, mean we went
through a ten year. Stretch it was Like, GEORGIA i
am cloms, It, Indiana, Miami, Ole Miss. Oregon do you
know the last So indiana it's fourteen and oh do
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you know the last team to.
Speaker 5 (31:16):
Go sixteen to zero in college? Football yale eighteen ninety.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
Four. Yale so your folks were looking at history With,
indiana it's The.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
Hurt be sure to catch live editions of The herd
weekdays and Noon, eastern not a Em.
Speaker 5 (31:34):
Pacific, tonight a college hoops doubleheader tips off at Seven
eastern with a Classic Big east rivalry As xavier takes On,
marquette Then Top Frank arizona looks defend off K.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
State all right here ON fs. One one of my
MANTRAS i, believe AND i tell anybody who will, listen
is that don't don't chase money in. Life chase really good.
Management there's a sea of. Money if you're talented and work,
hard there's a finite amount of really good. Management AND
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i feel the same way about. Coaching WHEN i see
all these people out, There oh it's rig the. Refs
your coaches aren't good. Enough let me give you an.
Example The Indiana hoosiers fumbled on the eighteenth play of this,
season the eighteenth Play game. One they have not fumbled.
Since on special, teams they lead the entire college football
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in fewest, fumbles fewest, turnovers fewest drap, passes, second fewest penalty.
Yards they have not had an errant snap all. Season
the last two years they've had the best red zone
offense and the best third down offense. Efficiency it's not the.
Refs nobody's conspired to eliminate your team from the playoffs
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in college or. Pro your team isn't well. Coached by the,
way two most PENALIZED nfl Teams titans and The Dallas.
Cowboys you really think the league wants The cowboys to be?
Rudderless do you really think THE nfl, Says, okay here's
the three teams that are going to disappoint every, Year
New York, Giants New York, jets and The. Cowboys but
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we want to make Sure Green bay is really. Good
Green bay is always really. Good buffalo is. Excellent Kurt
signett's team is. Unbelievable they don't get, penalized they don't,
fumble they don't drop, passes no errant snaps one fumble all.
Year it is an unbelievable. Team it is the best
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tackling Team i've seen Since Saban's Alabama Crimson. Tide and
if they beat in a Row Ohio state they did
in The Big Den Championship bama and The Rose bowl they,
did And oregon in The, semis it is an all time.
Team Mark cuban this week wrote a massive. Check Mark
cuban did not write the biggest check last year in the.
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Portal Mark cuban off the, success wrote a check this,
week big big. Check they're going nowhere and they haven't
done it with five star. Recruits he has turned blue
collar kids into blue chip. Players and here Is signetty
on the matchup Against.
Speaker 6 (34:20):
Oregon that's why it's important to have a blueprint and a.
Plan you, know this business is all about, development recruiting
and retention that have high, standards, expectations accountability throughout your entire.
Organization got to have the write people and your staff
in the locker. Room when guys prepare, correctly that's their
best chance to be. Successful and when they've become, successful
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they developed more confidence and belief and it becomes sort
of a snowball.
Speaker 1 (34:47):
Effect, yeah it. Is it's just really. Remarkable it's you
can always tell a well coached. TEAM i remember when
The Patriots belichick was in his prime With. Brady they didn't,
fumble they they didn't get, penalized and everybody's, like oh that.
Rigg you want the most boring coach IN nfl history
(35:08):
to really run the, league who hates the media and
didn't Like. Goodell that's who the league wanted to. Win
this team is so well. Coached it jumps through THE.
Tv they don't drop, passes they don't, fumble they don't get,
penalized they don't have errant. Snaps coaching affects, everything and
when you see bad, coaching you know where it. Starts
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your team is. Loose The cowboys have been loose since
Like parcels And Jimmy johnson. Left didn't it feel like
The cowboys are always one of the most penalized teams
in the. League coaches affect that that's not the, refs
that's your. COACH i saw this. Story this was. Weird you,
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Know i'm pro nil and pro transfer, portal BUT i
think my kids should have, cake just not for. Breakfast
there's guidelines on. Everything So Damon, williams junior good Quarterback
university Of, washington signed with the. Team i'm gonna stay At,
washington sign the, contract and then said nat enter the.
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Portal you gotta have rules with this stuff pro. Football
you can't sign contracts and, say, well the guy over
on the other team signed a bigger. Contract i'm gonna
put myself in free. Agency you've got to have. Rules
Damon williams signed a, contract and for the, record you
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know why he wants out Because Texas tech went and
paid their quarterback five million. Dollars he looked at it and,
thought what AM i making? TOO i want to go
back into the. Portal, dude you sign a. CONTRACT i
you know you can't go the. End college football used
(36:53):
to be the strictest. Parent now there's no. Parent they
went from helicopter to home. Alone there's no. Parents THE
ncaa has got to step in. Here you can't just
let guys. Go Willy nielly and the players can't win every.
Time in THE. Nfl sometimes the players, win but not
all the. Time sometimes. Time right now in THE, Nfl
Jordan love makes more Than Josh allen. Timing Trevor lawrence
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makes more Than Josh allen. Timing you. KNOW i, Mean
Tom brady was rarely the highest paid quarterback in the.
League whoever signs the new contract for about six months
is the highest paid. Quarterback then they're not for four.
Years SO i don't think it's a coincidence That Texas,
tech who's got a lot of, money went and bought
a quarterback From, cincinnati and then this young guy At washington, says,
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oh be, here, sorry. Pal players can't win all the.
Time AND i am completely PRO, nil but there's got
to be some guardrails on this. Stuff and WHENEVER i
hear we'll coaches leave all the. Time they don't sign
contracts and the next day, SAY i saw what the
guy signed At. MICHIGAN i want a new. Contract they
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don't do. That but THE ncaa is so toothless and
weak and lacks the. ABILITY i, mean they couldn't figure
out THE nil was coming five years when everybody was
talking about THE nil was. Coming so at some point you,
gotta at some point have rules in college. Football we
have rules in pro football with free agency and. Moving
(38:24):
got to have. Something contracts have to mean. SOMETHING i,
Mean i'm not saying contracts don't you. Know some contracts
are you, know, written and you know eventually they'll get.
Rewritten we see this all the. Time Lamar jackson's cap
hit for The ravens next, year seventy four. Million they're
going to tear it up and redo it and do
more guaranteed money and lower it in the high. Forties
(38:45):
but that's mutually agreed upon, Well washington's, like, Timeout we're
not letting you. Go you can't just go because you
want to. Go there's, contracts, okay j. Mac so the utter,
story the big story yesterday and today Is John harbaugh
is now on the. Market so for those interests That
(39:09):
John harbaugh's in the, market at the top of next,
hour we'll give. You so now there's seven teams looking
for a. Coach we went from a very bad, market
like there's no. Coat we were saying this this, week
like who do you? Hire Now i've Got John harbaugh
and Now i've Got Kevin. Stefanski now let's Say Jeff
hafley becomes your third best. Candidate, well that's a pretty
good candidate as a third or fourth, Best like like right,
(39:32):
Now Jeff hafley is your. Fastball maybe Not Jeff halfley
is your fourth. Pitch, okay that's a pretty good. Candidate
you haven't ahead of the guys like Mintor. Kingsbury i'd
be saying my take would Be harball One. Stefanski that's very.
Clear and THEN i think you get into the you,
Know mike McCarthy wins twelve games a, year like how
many TIMES i Think jesse, mentor but he's never been
(39:54):
a head. COACH i think you get into a group
at the third pitch that's pretty darn.
Speaker 5 (39:59):
Saw, yeah The harball one's interesting because he kind of
can fit. Anywhere BUT i think he'd only take a
team that's kind of, close, right WOULDN'T.
Speaker 1 (40:07):
I argue This harbaugh's best fit is in some place
with a broken, culture because he's not going to be
a play, caller like for, Instance stefanski as a play
caller could go To baltimore With. Lamar they don't need
a culture. Guy the culture's. Great baltimore's culture is, unbelievable
but they need somebody to Get lamar happy and. Right
(40:30):
but remember we just talked about.
Speaker 5 (40:32):
It the teams that pay their quarterback the, most all
of a, sudden they're not making the playoffs because you
can't build around.
Speaker 1 (40:36):
Them so Does stefanski look.
Speaker 5 (40:38):
At The lamar situation be, like you guys got to
clean up these Ball, NO i.
Speaker 1 (40:41):
Think we need offensive line. Thing baltimore's like The packers
when they have an, opening take. It it's so well,
run you take, it.
Speaker 5 (40:47):
So you would take so you have that job as
the best one by Far. Baltimore, OH i mean top three,
owner top, five.
Speaker 1 (40:57):
Top eight. Quarterback we don't know Quite labar had a
Weird lamar's top seven eight. Quarterback we don't know. Exactly
he's twenty, nine he, Was he's missed seventeen starts, like
we don't know, exactly but he's still very. GOOD i
Think baltimore's the. Job then we you AND i can
argue over the second. JOB i think both of us
like the personnel In atlanta offensively in a weak. Division
(41:18):
i'm starting to warm up to The New York. Giants
there's some pieces in place. There they could. Be they
could have the second most talent in the. Division but
But baltimore doesn't need a culture. Setter, okay that's what
The chargers needed With, Harball So sefanski can he can
just get on the headset and Get lamar. Happy The
giants need a culture. Guy, that to me Is harriball.
(41:40):
Perfect
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