THE HERD - Hour 1 - The Chiefs dynasty is close to the end, the Commanders will regress, Steve Wyche
August 27, 2025 • 42 mins
Jason McIntyre fills in for Colin discussing Travis Kelce’s engagement to Taylor Swift and if this means the Chiefs dynasty is nearing its end as Kelce might be leaning towards retirement
He argues the Washington Commanders will take a step back this season for one major reason
Plus, he talks to Steve Wyche from the NFL Network about 49ers QB Brock Purdy and why he’s already established himself as an elite player in the NFL
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Speaker 3 (00:26):
Welcome back. It's Wednesday in Los Angeles. It's The Herd.
Wherever you are, however you may be listening. I think
I got that right.
Speaker 4 (00:37):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
I've never tried that.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
It just came to me. It's me Jason McIntyre filling
in for Colin Cowhard. He is breathlessly texting me updates
about Taylor Swift and Travis Kelcey, and I'm relaying them
to Rachel Nichols, who I'm joined by again today.
Speaker 5 (00:52):
Rachel, No, Colin's not actually texting.
Speaker 6 (00:55):
I'm not sure this is quick.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
This is his last hurrah in now. Maybe he's on
the course I've been, but uh, Rachel and I listen.
We've been hit for breaking news every day, so keep
in locked. Who knows what's coming down now? We did
get a little tease about some not great news, which
we'll get you shortly. Uh, Kansas City Chiefs fans tuned in.
But I'm going to start the show, obviously with the
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big news in sports, Travis Kelce Taylor Swift engage. Now,
I know sports fans are already sick of it, their wives,
their girlfriends, their side pieces and whatever, talking about Wait
a minute, what kind of wedding dress is Taylor Swift were?
But do they get a DJ or do they do
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a band? Do they do an international wedding? And there's
all this updates on all the celebrity websites and also
sports websites talking about this union, and folks, I'm gonna
take it in a different direction because we do sports
here on the show, and I'm gonna say, how does
this impact the actual football product of the Kansas City Chiefs?
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And it keeps coming back to one thing that's fairly
obvious that this has to be the last dance for
the triumvirate of Andy Reid, Patrick Mahomes and Travis Kelce.
Speaker 7 (02:10):
Right.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
I mean, you guys remember a few years ago Baker
Mayfield led the NFL in commercials and on the field
the product was not great. Well, what are we doing
with Travis Kelce. I mean, he's talked about retirement. He's
among the league leaders in commercials. He's a full blown celebrity. Now, okay,
he's engaged to the most famous woman on the planet
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and now they're going to be planning a wedding. By
the way, side note, Travis Kelce's dad gave a random
interview to a Cleveland TV station.
Speaker 5 (02:41):
I don't know, there's some kind of connection there, and.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
He said, oh, yeah, basically they got engaged two weeks ago,
which then makes you wonder about that whole podcast appearance.
I don't know. Listen, there's just so much happening here,
but guess what's not happening?
Speaker 7 (02:54):
Football?
Speaker 3 (02:55):
And I mentioned the last dance because Jordan Pippot and
Phil Jack and they knew that that was it. It's
over on some level, guys, Patrick Mahomes has to know
this is it. I mean, Travis Kelce turns thirty six
in October. He's going into the final year of his contract.
He's openly talked about retirement. I mean, he's laying the
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groundwork for a post football career. I mean, he's podcasting.
He's in Happy Go More too. By the way, just
a quick review. I didn't think the movie was great.
It was okay, but I did think Travis Kelcey was
kind of good. I thought Bad Bunny was good. I
didn't even know it was Bad Bunny. But like Travis
kelce wasn't terrible. And you know, he's doing a lot
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of commercials. I have a feeling he's gonna have a
pretty lucrative post football career. But that's post football. We
still have a season to go. And again, I don't
think they were a super Bowl team. I had them
third in my Super Bowl Tier yesterday. Shocker Chiefs fans
did not like that. But when you kind of drill
down and start thinking, like, man, maybe this is coming
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to an end every couple of years. Andy Reid, who
by the way, is sixty seven years old, he's talking
about retirement. So you know, if Kelsey and Reid walked
away after this, it would not shock me. I think
the dynasty is over. They had their shot in the
Super Bowl. They got smashed. Folks. The Rashi Rice news
that's emerging right now, you know, Adam Schefter reporting looks
like it's gonna be the first six games of the season.
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That's putting even more pressure on Travis kelce who oh,
by the way, is coming off a career low in
receiving yards touchdowns. Like, things are not looking great, especially
if for she Rice is cooked for the first six games.
So I'm to say, I know, it's just saying, you know,
don't cry because it's over, Smile because it happened. That's
how I'm feeling about this Chiefs run. As you see
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Mahomes running around celebrating they had a great run, it's over.
And Travis kelcey, you know he could have a great
Swan song. I'm sure he's gonna play better here. Listen,
don't when you run a mile and you're older, you
know you want to come out of the gate hot.
Now I'm competing of whoa, You're running out of gas quickly.
Kelsey's gonna have to step up here early in the season.
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If for she Rice is indeed suspended for six games,
I don't think this is gonna go as great as
everybody's predicting. I know they have my homes and they
have Reid and they have Kelsey, but for how much longer?
This is probably it? Now I'm gonna shift my focus
to a team I actually love and that's the San
Francisco forty nine Ers, another team that I had yesterday
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that was mildly controversial in my Super Bowl tiers.
Speaker 5 (05:32):
I had them in the first tier.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
That was met with a lot of scorn and derision
on the internet, but that's what people do online. And
the focus here is going to be a certain seventh
round quarterback by the name of Rock Perdy. So our
friend Albert Brier was at forty nine Ers camp recently
and he spoke to Shanahan, Sala, Lynch and Purdy and
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brock Perdy had a really interesting quote that jumped out
and all the aggregators were wild. Here's the quote from
brock Perty. I felt this pressure last season on myself
to be a superman type guy, go out and make
plays off schedule. And I did look, and yes, his
rushing numbers were up last season. A lot of that
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was running for his life, because when your star running
backs out and your receiving rooms depleted, you know you
got to try to make plays. Now, I do need
some context here, because brock Perty last year was playing
for a contract. He was making like eight hundred thousand
dollars on that seventh round dead last pick in the
draft rookie deal, and he was looking to get elevated
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to be a forty or fifty million dollar a year guy.
Now more context needed. So this Niners team last year,
we should have seen the drop off coming. Okay, they
had a five year run where they went to two
super Bowls and two conference championships. Perdy got hurt against
the Eagles, the other one they lost, and the one
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year Jimmy Garoppolo got in and they missed the playoffs.
But I totaled it twelve playoff games in a five
year span. So it's no surprise that half the defense
was hurt last year and you see guys dropping like flies.
Twelve playoff games is almost another entire season. Remember the
Golden State Warriors kept going to the finals and then
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really broke down rapidly.
Speaker 5 (07:20):
That was the Niners last year. But I've got a couple.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
Things about Brock Purdy that I'm gonna hit you with
now that are going to be a surprise. So the
narrative was that, you know, he wasn't good last year
and he was trying to be superman. He was playing
for a contract, and hey, as Colin likes to say,
the weather was bad, and brock Purdy crumbled. Well, you know,
I do not like the blind taste tests when it
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comes to quarterbacks. I feel like it's cheap and people
kind of cherry pickstats. But I this morning just looking
at stats for brock Purty last year to go with
these quotes, and then I looked at the leaderboard. I'm like, wait,
brock Purdy was not that bad last year. So, folks,
here is the first of two. I'm gonna compare brock
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Party to another quarterback in the NFL last year. So
you see his passing yards perty plus about one hundred
touchdown interceptions.
Speaker 5 (08:15):
Party more touchdowns, more interceptions, yards per attempt.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
He was not a checkdown artist eight point five, much
better than this other quarterback, and better in passer rating.
Speaker 5 (08:25):
Let's see who the other quarterback is.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
Oh, oh, Matthew Stafford, the much beloved Matthew Stafford. I
like Stafford. I'm a Stafford guy. But Stafford wasn't great
last year. So Stafford wasn't great. How was brock Purty awful? Okay,
that's number one. Now the staff came up with a
second one. I don't know who this guy is was
I knew the other one was Stafford. So here are
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the numbers. Stafford again, more passing yards, more touchdowns, even interceptions,
way better in yards per attempt, and better in passer rating.
Let's see who the quarterback was compared to brock Purty
last year. CJ. Stroud. Oh wait a minute, brock Perty
in his down year was better than Stroud statistically and
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better than Stafford. What so brock Purty was it bad? Okay,
their tat is telling me right. Now we have one
more blind resume. Again, this wasn't run by me, so
I have no idea who this guy is. Touchdowns even,
yards per attempt edge to Purty, completion percentage dead even.
All right, let's see who this quarterback is, Rock Purty
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versus Oh my, no, is that Justin Herbert? So again
we can bag on brock Purty all we want the numbers.
Facts say he was better than Justin Herbert, Matt Stafford,
and c J. Stroud last year. That's a bit of
a boom. My kid likes to do truth bomb, you know,
with the head exploding emoji. That's what I'm seeing there
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for brock Purty. So we have Greg Cosell last week.
Now I was on vacation. I heard brought in Greg
Coseelt to take shots at pretty I don't know if
he took shots.
Speaker 8 (10:03):
Here we go in terms of being what we call
a post snap operator. In other words, when he takes
the snap, he has such an intuitive feel for what
he sees, and therefore he's a really really good timing
and anticipation thrower. It's just innate to him. He sees
it really quickly. So Purdy is a high level post
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snap operator. He's a really really good player. Purdy is
a really good quarterback. He's just not a dynamic athlete
who is necessarily going to make those kind of special
plays on his own. But as a pocket quarterback, he's
pretty high level.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
Cosell dropping a little truth bomb there on my guy,
brock Purty. So I do want to say, I try
to help you guys out, okay, try to help you
be a little smarter on the gambling front, the fantasy
the takes and sometimes you don't want it or you
want to.
Speaker 5 (10:59):
Just argue with me, folks.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
Just a few facts here. The forty nine ers this
season are favored in fifteen of seventeen games. Fifteen Er
sent they're gonna be awesome, and the only two times
are dogs. They're short road dogs against. I think it's
the Rams and Bucks back to back. Okay, so they're
gonna be good. I don't care that you think, oh,
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the defense is washed, all these new guys, they're gonna
be really good. Yeah, there it is. They're at the
Rams and Bucks back to back in weeks five and six.
They are slight dogs. That schedule is Cupcake City. Go
find me the elite quarterbacks outside of Stafford on that
list and take your time, because there aren't any folks.
The Niners are going to be really freaking good last year. Now,
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I'm gonna be honest. If I asked you the audience,
give me the best offense and defensive coaching combos in
the league heading into this season, and I'll give you
one right out of the gate. Andy Reid and Spagnolo.
They can be number one.
Speaker 5 (12:01):
Okay, who's second best in the league?
Speaker 3 (12:04):
If you want to say Sean Payton and Vance Joseph,
I'm not gonna fight you. Okay, I'll give you that,
but I'll tell you right now, Kyle Shanahan and Robert
Sala has to be top three, top four at worst. Okay,
I know you're gonna bag on Salah. He was a
disaster with the Jets. Actually, guys, Robert Sala, in two
and a half seasons with the Jets, the defense first
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in points per drive, first in EPA per play, third
in defensive success rate. It wasn't Sala's fault as a
defensive coordinator running the Jets d It wasn't on him.
Aaron Rodgers stunk and he got hurt, and the Jets
are a full blown disaster top down every year. But
it wasn't Sala's fault. I'm just telling you the Niners
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are gonna be really good. You can get on board
early and do the victory lap with me come November
when they're looking at a number one seed, or you
can just continue to have your opinion off rock parties
at seventh round. He's garbage.
Speaker 7 (13:01):
You know who?
Speaker 3 (13:01):
You sound like the guy who was bagging on Tom
Brady early in his career. Oh, he's a game manager.
J Mack, He's not that good. Drew Bledsoe was the man,
and you kept saying that about Brady until you just
couldn't say it anymore, and he became the greatest quarterback
in NFL history. Like, stop being wedded to your take
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open your eyes rock perty last year, better than Stafford,
numbers wise, better than Herbert, better than CJ. Stroud, forty
nine ers favored in fifteen or seventeen games. I'm telling
you right now, get on board. You don't want to
be left behind now, Rachel. I know that's a big
plea to the audience. Hey, you can rock with me
or you can just like argue with me. But I
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feel irrationally good. You're laughing.
Speaker 9 (13:49):
I'm laughing.
Speaker 6 (13:49):
I think you're right well, first of all.
Speaker 9 (13:51):
And I'm laughing because for people out there who don't
buy what you're saying, you said, oh, it's a cupcave schedule.
It's the easiest schedule. It's thirty two, it's number thirty two.
Speaker 6 (14:02):
It is the.
Speaker 9 (14:02):
Easiest schedule in the NFL this season. My concern, and
we talked about it earlier in the week, is just
the injuries. I mean that wide receiver room has been decimated.
And Christian McCaffrey.
Speaker 6 (14:12):
Is still healthy. That's good. He's made it through preseason healthy. Yeah,
but you know we've.
Speaker 9 (14:17):
Talked about it that he is I don't want to
say fragile, because no one who plays that position is fragile, frankly,
but someone who has had an injury history, right, So
you just kind of worry if some of those tools
at brock Perty's disposal are going to be available, right,
that's my nice here.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
We need brand and ay you back. That'll be nice
if you could get help.
Speaker 9 (14:33):
It's not going to be immediate, right. So he's still
recovering from the knee injuries. So you know, it's one
of those things where health and luck as always have
to help these guys out.
Speaker 6 (14:43):
A little bit. But if it's even normal.
Speaker 9 (14:46):
Health at luck which they have not experienced so far
in the preseason, but hopefully once the season gets going,
if they can just return to a normal amount of injuries,
then I'm with you all the way. I think this
will surprise some people. We talked about the NFC West,
you know, I am not as bullish on the Rams
being you know, I just Stafford. I don't know if
he's gonna make it through the whole season. So I
think that we talked at about the forty nine ers, all.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
Right, I love agrievent to start the show, all right,
coming up next, stat Emerge yesterday on Rachel's Commanders. That
is gonna surprise. I was stunned by this. Is it
going to hold them back from the Super Bowl? That's
next here on the Herd.
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He's really locked in now. I know he knows the Falcons. Well,
they had a big injury this week. Not great for
my Falcons futures. But let's go to a team that
someone actually cares about, and that's the Washington Commanders. What
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a story they were last year, right, You had the
Daniel Snyder having to give up on a lose his ownership.
You got the new group coming in, new front office,
new quarterback, knew everything, and it clicked on a level
that I mean, I can't recall seeing that rapid of
a turnaround. Shout out to Dan Quinn, great job. But
a stat came out yesterday about Washington kind of blew
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me away. The Washington Commanders now have the oldest roster
in the NFL. And oh, by the way, it is
the oldest roster in the NFL in the last twenty years.
People actually track this stuff. I get it. When you
are rebooting with a new owner, new front office, new coach,
new rookie quarterback, you need some veterans. So last year
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they brought in some veterans. You know, Zach Ertz linebacker
Bobby Wagner, who was ridiculous. Last year. He grated out
as the third best middle linebacker in the league. Okay,
he's like thirty four thirty five, and that's I don't
mean to make be like an agist, but let's be real.
Once you hit thirty in the NFL, outside of quarterback,
you're getting old. And they brought an Austin Eckler running
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back who's on the older side. This year they bring
in Von Miller Laramie Tunsel like they're an older team.
Deebo Samuel's kind of older. So they've got all these veterans.
But then you start to look at the history of
the oldest teams in the league and it's not pretty
at all, and you start to wonder. Okay, so last
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year they got a little lucky eight and four in
one score games. It wasn't Kansas City Chiefs eleven or zero,
but eight and four is really really good. And oh,
by the way, they beat the Bears on a flukail Mary.
They survived the Saints on a two point conversion deal.
Remember Jayden Daniels was incredible in that game. Jaan Daniell
was pretty incredible all season. Okay, this stat is arguably
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like a top five stat from last season in the
entire NFL. So fourth down. If you can go fifty
sixty percent on fourth down, that's amazing, Right, you get
every other fourth down you go for you get that, that
would be incredible. The Washington Commanders were twenty of twenty
three on fourth down last season, eighty seven percent. That
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is unsustainable. I don't know if that'll ever be matched.
When you look at the amount of attempts they at
twenty to twenty three, I would kill for that as
my free throw percentage of my men's basketball league. Washington
did that on fourth down, the highest leverage down. The
defensive cordators are emptying the kitchen sink on the blitz
a lot of pressure. Twenty to twenty three is ridiculous.
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Can Jaden Daniels do that again? Probably not. And then
you start to wonder like, is this old roster like
they got through last season. What happens if there's an
injury to Bobby Wagner, what happens if the von Miller
can't really be a factor, zach Ertz get gets banged up.
These guys are getting older. And you start to look
up it on the schedule and you're like, oh, this
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is a very tough schedule. This is arguable top five
schedule in the league. You get the layup against the
Giants early. It is a divisional matchup. Could be tricky,
right with the Giants front seven, Maybe they surprise the
hell out of you. But I mean Packers, I think
the Falcons are gonna be good. You get the Chargers.
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I mean Minnesota Vikings are gonna be good. We know
the Broncos are hella good. Detroit Lions, like that is
a difficult schedule, and you start to wonder, all right,
I know they were one in four against playoff teams
last year, but who cares jay they And by the way,
that one win was Week eighteen against Kenny or whatever.
I don't know if it was Week eight team was
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late in the season when Jalen Hurts got hurt and
Kenny Pickett had to like fill in, like, guys, what
are we doing you now? They did beat Detroit and
Tampa in the playoffs, awesome, but a lot of things
are lining up to make it look like Washington could
have could have a very difficult season ahead. Let's go
to Rachel with the news.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
No, no, no, this is the herd Line news.
Speaker 6 (20:56):
Well we got breaking news. You want to breaking news?
Speaker 3 (20:58):
Oh yeah, yeah, sure, breaking news.
Speaker 9 (21:00):
Jason Rashid Rice was facing a potential suspension from the
league for violating the Personal Conduct Policy. You may remember
he is under investigation for several final felonies about causing
an accident racing at high speeds with the Lamborghini and
a highway while according to Diana Russini, Rice.
Speaker 6 (21:18):
Has accepted a sixth game.
Speaker 9 (21:19):
Suspension from the NFL after they originally were looking to
hand him ten games. So he's decided to accept six.
Says A couple impacts here, right, is that, first of all,
his arbitration hearing if they had gone to that, if
they really actually gone to the battle, it wasn't going
to be until September thirtieth, So whatever games he had
missed would have been in the middle of the season
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or if the NFL got it in his way almost
to the end of the season.
Speaker 6 (21:44):
Right, this way, he accepts.
Speaker 9 (21:46):
The six games, which is better than ten. I think
they had been looking for four bit better than ten.
And it will start right at the beginning of the season.
So we can see the schedule up there, Jason, you
can see kind of.
Speaker 6 (21:59):
How much that's going to hurt them.
Speaker 9 (22:00):
What do you think is going to happen with Patrick
Mahomes and the offense.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
Well, I'm just looking at the depth chart. So Hollywood
Brown listed as questionable. It feels like he came out
of the womb questionable. Xavier Worthy is good, but he's
more of a gadget guy. I don't think he's like
a rice. You can lean on him for ten catches.
Speaker 6 (22:15):
Right, yeah, and he's still you know, young.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
Ish, right young yesh Yes, Travis Kelcey and Noah Gray
then listen, man, I don't think this is going to
be easy. They're running back room unchanged, really, Pacheco and
kareemont Rachel. Again, I know I sound like a hater.
I don't see this as going great this season for
the Chiefs. Now, you could look at this as good
news that They've now got an extra what eight days
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to prepare, ten days to prepare for week one, knowing
Rice is not going to be there to pull him
out of the game plan. Yeah, can they go four
and two without him? Or is that too generous?
Speaker 9 (22:51):
I mean, if you look at their schedule, right, go
back to that. Then they start with the Chargers in Brazil.
They're still going to be favored.
Speaker 6 (22:57):
To win that game.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
Yeah, Chargers play them tough though, I know, but.
Speaker 6 (23:00):
They're still gonna be favored win that game. Right.
Speaker 9 (23:02):
They were facing the Eagles in Week two and they
were favored in that game, and now I don't know, right.
Speaker 5 (23:08):
Yeah, well coming back with there's not a lot of
data coming.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
Back from Brazil.
Speaker 6 (23:12):
What's that?
Speaker 3 (23:13):
What's that trip like?
Speaker 9 (23:14):
Right? And then Giants obviously they should still win that game. Yeah, right,
Ravens going to be very tough.
Speaker 6 (23:20):
Yeah, Jaguars, despite.
Speaker 9 (23:23):
You deciding Jacksonville is the powerhouses in the NFL, Mysteriously,
we don't know why they should win that game.
Speaker 6 (23:29):
Lions, I mean, she gets streaky to be.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
All right, three and three, four and two, right, and
if they go five and one, lights out, you're going
to the playoffs. They're going to get excited for. But
interesting how they they don't have to go on the
road for the Eagles or Ravens or Lions exactly, And
ifl did them a favor huh wow, uf Kames all
in Kansas City. Maybe so Taylor could attend the gates.
Speaker 9 (23:51):
Yeah, exactly. They want to make sure that they get
her up there a lot. So, oh, I have math
for you on that. By the way, she was on
the cast August thirteenth. And if you do detective work
on when Kelsey's dad said they got engaged, that was
a tenth.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
So maybe after the podcast maybe, I don't know. Basically,
he did seem giddy on the podcast vide.
Speaker 6 (24:14):
I think it was right around the same time.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
There you go, No chiefs read from Rachelton Black for
the feuds exactly.
Speaker 9 (24:23):
All right, Let's say the Dallas drama continues around like
a Parsons contract negotiations, no end in sight. The Cowboys
kick off the season in Philadelphia for the first time.
Brian Schottenheimer actually admitted persons could be limited even if
he does play a week one take.
Speaker 11 (24:38):
A listen at the end of the day. As soon
as he get out there, that's great. But again, there'll
be a ramp up plan for him, and you know,
when he lines up out there to play. You know,
do I think he would play seventy five plays in
every play? Probably not, you know, I don't think that
that's real, But I do think that he can be
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very disruptive. Like we all, the best way to get
good at football and is to play football. Then, so
I would say as soon as possible would be would
be the desired effect.
Speaker 9 (25:09):
The desired effect would be as soon as possible, Jason,
so important to really take it.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
Yeah, yeah, definitely.
Speaker 6 (25:14):
My question back, I know.
Speaker 9 (25:15):
My question for you though, is so Dak Prescott signed
on literally the day of the season opener, but he
had been practicing the entire time, and he had no injury,
right Micah purported to have had backnightness. He's now been
medically cleared. We can decide how much of a negotiating
tactic that was.
Speaker 6 (25:34):
But he hasn't practiced at all.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
That's a little surprising, isn't it.
Speaker 6 (25:38):
And so well, I mean not from his perspective, but.
Speaker 9 (25:40):
Yeah, so, at what point would you if you were
coaching the Cowboys and you had the balance trying to
win a very big, high profile game, but also not
wanting to get your forty million plus player hurt.
Speaker 6 (25:56):
What day would he have to return to.
Speaker 9 (25:57):
Practice for you to feel good about playing, even in
a limited number of snaps the way shot he's talking about,
and so.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
What do you say is limited number of STAPs like
situational if it's third and seven or more, let's put
him in. Just go get the quarterback. You don't have
to worry about the run game or.
Speaker 6 (26:17):
That it's hard.
Speaker 9 (26:18):
The number he threw autor is like, oh, he's not
going to play seventy five snaps?
Speaker 6 (26:21):
Well, yeah, of course not.
Speaker 9 (26:22):
But is he going to play as you said, just
unlike sort of tricky third downs?
Speaker 6 (26:26):
Is it going to be a.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
Lot twenty snaps?
Speaker 4 (26:29):
Thirty?
Speaker 3 (26:30):
Because you know the Eagles are going to identify, Hey,
he's on the field. He hasn't practiced it forever, he
ain't ready, let's go at him.
Speaker 9 (26:35):
They only have three days of practice scheduled at home
and then they fly.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
Yeah, it's starting to seem like maybe he shouldn't even
play if he's not back like by this weekend, right
and at those three practices, right, Yeah, I mean, I
know he's been around the league with four years five years,
like he can.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
Just go in and make plays.
Speaker 9 (26:52):
It's physical though, I mean that's the question to me,
is physically. I mean you the thing you cannot have
happened after all of this is for him to get
hurt and miss a month, right, So.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
I wonder what do you I would love to get
Michael on you. Hey, what's your workout like? Since you're
not practicing with the team, they're out there grinding two days,
you know, is it?
Speaker 2 (27:10):
What are you doing?
Speaker 9 (27:12):
I mean your workout guide, Like there's a huge difference
between I lifted and weights and I ran on the
treadmill and actual live football.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
That's yeah, So I don't know, maybe you're making you're
selling me like I don't know that he's gonna play
that much at all. Hey, Jerry, let's blame Jerry for this?
Could we do that?
Speaker 6 (27:29):
Just of course? Why not? Let me let's go over
to the Bears.
Speaker 9 (27:33):
Ben Johnson has been looking to leave his mark on
there his new team is he heats into the first
regular season game. One thing he has talked about since
the beginning of training camp, though, was the slow starts
from the offense, and he said it's more than just the.
Speaker 12 (27:47):
Quarterback it's not Caleb, it's it's everybody. It's everybody, and
it's coaches included, and all this thing, and so we're
not pointing fingers. The whole thing is we just got
to be focused. We've got to be in intentional. We
like to talk about you know, if we get seventy
plays in a game, those are seventy bullets for us
to shoot off, and we need each one account. We
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can't be missing, we can't be wasting. There are no
breather plays in this league. Each thing is really important.
The details are really important, and I think it's going
to add up and we'll be just fine.
Speaker 6 (28:20):
You buying that.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
I don't know, Rachel. I don't want to be buddy
language expert guy. But if you look at all these
Ben Johnson clips all summer, he doesn't seem like happy.
He seems like tight, and you don't see a lot
of smiling. He almost looks frustrated. Am I reading too
much into that?
Speaker 9 (28:38):
No?
Speaker 6 (28:39):
I think you're right.
Speaker 9 (28:39):
I mean, look, I think he's a high intensity.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
Guy, big.
Speaker 9 (28:42):
But I asked you guys this morning in the meeting,
have we heard him sort of wax poetic about Caleb
Williams ever has there ever been sort of a like man,
I really see a lot in him. He still needs
some polishing, but I haven't haven't listened to every single
quote this guy has had after everything.
Speaker 6 (29:00):
Practice, So that's more why I'm asking the question.
Speaker 9 (29:02):
But he has not projected overall a lot of positivity
about the quarterback he's working with, and I just wonder
in a new head coach quarterback relationship. There's no question
that Williams has a history of starting slowly, and this
is exactly what he's talking about.
Speaker 6 (29:19):
This is a lot different than Jared Goff.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
Yeah, starting to get bad vibes about the Bears. Maybe
I'm being too negative, but they're you know, football war analogies,
Like it's different being like a lieutenant and a general.
He's in charge of everything in Detroit. It was just
Jared Goff, like you said in the office take, I
could create some jazzy plays and hook and ladders. That's
easy when you just got one thing to focus on.
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But this is like I got to deal with the
media every day. I got to deal with my quarterback,
what's going on with special teams? And maybe that's why
he is not really seeming like he's having fun.
Speaker 6 (29:54):
I don't know. I mean, this is a problem. They
have to clean it up.
Speaker 9 (29:57):
Last season, the Bears ranked thirtieth in terms of slowest
starts in the NFL.
Speaker 6 (30:02):
So you can't can't start that way.
Speaker 5 (30:05):
Yeah, oh, that's not any of those teams good.
Speaker 9 (30:08):
In that last preseason game, they were down seventeen to
oh before they scored finally afield on.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
Yeah, not ideal. I'm I just don't think this is
a playoff team. Shoot, you got them in the playoffs.
Speaker 9 (30:19):
I don't Yeah, yeah, but you know Collins and Chicago.
Speaker 6 (30:22):
He might have a different, different story.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
Rachel with the news.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by the.
Speaker 3 (30:30):
Herd line news right coming up next, is this really
the end of the Chiefs with Travis Kelcey likely bouncing
after the season, And who blinks first in Dallas? That's next.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
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Speaker 3 (31:02):
Back here on the Herd, Let's bring in Steve Weiss,
NFL reporter NFL Network. He's been there since two thousand
and eight. Steve, thanks for joining us on this day
with more breaking news involving the Chiefs. This is actual
on field product as opposed to the Kelsey Swift engagement.
But obviously the Rashid Rice news just broke I'm curious
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a your reaction and b you know what do you
think the impact will be on Kansas City's offense.
Speaker 7 (31:32):
Yeah, my colleague Tom Pelasero broke that.
Speaker 4 (31:35):
And what's interesting, remember he had a date set for
late September, right, so that was a lot him to play,
find out his fate, all of this stuff. By now,
he's getting this out of the way. So he suspended
for six weeks. According to Tom, he'll be able to
come back in week seven and then they can get rolling.
So that allows the Chiefs on the field to kind
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of set their rotation and everything from now.
Speaker 7 (32:00):
It allows Rice.
Speaker 4 (32:01):
Not to go back and forth like we've seen some
players go back and forth in the past. Are they
going to play again? Remember Zeke Elliott? Are they not
going to play? So that just clears a hurdle of
the unknown. So we'll see how is she Rice, who's
a valuable part of what they do, how he figures
in when he comes back mid season.
Speaker 7 (32:19):
But again, for the.
Speaker 4 (32:20):
Chiefs football wise, it just allows him. Let's establish this,
this is out of the way. Now all sides can
function kind of knowing what is there.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
Yeah, it's weird.
Speaker 7 (32:31):
Rice.
Speaker 3 (32:33):
He hasn't played enough for us to know if he's great,
But in that one season he kind of popped. He
looked like he had top ten receiver potential, right with
the speed and the strength.
Speaker 4 (32:42):
Yeah, I mean, and he helps out what they like
to do in that offense, right, Remember he does the
up the seam stuff. He kind of helps Kelsey clear
things out in that middle of the field.
Speaker 7 (32:51):
Plus you could tell Mahomes really likes him. I mean,
they've got a chemistry there.
Speaker 4 (32:56):
I think they're both Dallas area guys, Texas guys, and
they train a lot in the off season together, so
that chemistry helps. And so not having him, they knew
it was a possibility. They didn't have them most of
last year. They worked around it. So now they'll work
around it again, find a way and when he comes back,
it could be kind of a cherry on top type
of thing.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
Now, last year the receiver room was not great, certainly
bottom half of the league. Now you're looking at Hollywood Brown,
Xavier Worthy. Juju, says Schuster. I don't does this put
more pressure on Travis Kelce, who oh, by the way,
is thirty five and all the almost thirty six.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
No.
Speaker 7 (33:32):
I mean, look, the Chiefs do what they do.
Speaker 4 (33:34):
Last year, the issue wasn't so much the receiving core,
but it was the offensive line.
Speaker 7 (33:38):
Yeah, I mean, they just didn't play well. They had
issues that left tackle.
Speaker 4 (33:40):
Then they moved tuneing out from guard to tackle, some
uncertainty at.
Speaker 7 (33:44):
That guard spot for a while.
Speaker 4 (33:45):
I think if that part is solidified, and we know
they did some things to try to change that offensive line,
including drafting someone in the first round, if that part solidified,
the Chiefs are going to do what they do. I mean,
as long as you got number fifteen, if they've got
a dink and dunk, they'll do that. They're the field
here and there, they'll do that. So I don't think
it's so much on Kelsey and that receiving crew as
he is on the guys up front to let that
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offense function the way Andy Reid wants it to function.
Speaker 5 (34:09):
So let's go to Kelsey real quick.
Speaker 3 (34:10):
Obviously, you know he's a celebrity now, he was in
a movie, he's podcasting, he's engaged to Taylor Swift. Also
entering the final year of his contract. He's talked about
retirement in the past, talked about all the surgeries he's had.
We would it's safe to assume this is his last ride.
And I'm just curious, do you think you know? Andy
Reid is sixty seven. There's been speculation previously whether or
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not he hangs them up. I mean, is there a
world where this is really the final run for Red,
Mahmes and Kelsey together.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
It could be.
Speaker 7 (34:41):
I don't envision it.
Speaker 4 (34:42):
I mean, knowing those those guys as much as I do,
I mean, maybe Travis steps away. I'll tell you this,
He's got his body really together. I saw him some
stuff this offseason. He looks different, he looks fresh. Maybe
now that he's engaged, you know, he's going to be
super fresh. I don't know, well with Andy Reid, he
seems someone to me like he just I don't know
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what he would do without coaching, And I just think
that's that's kind of something he hangs on to because
he knows he impacts lives in a lot of ways. Besides,
he saw on the field and with his staff, and
of course Patrick Mahomes is going to be there.
Speaker 7 (35:16):
So I don't envision it.
Speaker 4 (35:18):
That's not to say it couldn't happen, but right now
I don't see Andy retaining.
Speaker 7 (35:22):
You know what, this is one last rodeo we're going out.
Speaker 3 (35:26):
Let me pivot to Brock Purdy if you don't mind.
I am a brock pretty guy. I think he's undervalued significantly.
He had a quote to Albert Breer saying, he, you know,
tried to do too much and be superman last year.
I mean, Steve, their whole team was banged up. He's
played for a contract. I think he can be superman.
I mean, we have a couple of years worth of
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data on this guy. He's really good, is he not.
Speaker 7 (35:50):
I'm with you.
Speaker 4 (35:51):
I've been a brock pretty guy ever since he came
in mid stream as a third stringer against the Dolphins
and put up numbers like he's been playing all of
a sudden. The thirds don't get reps. So the fact
he played that way showed me he's got something to him.
I could see him trying to over extend himself last
year because there's a certain standard with the forty nine
ers and with you know, Trent Williams down, Deebo, Samuel Down,
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Brandon you know, not having a good year, Brandon Ayuk.
Speaker 7 (36:15):
Down, a lot of defenders down. This just wasn't the
same team.
Speaker 4 (36:20):
So a lot of times guys are going to try
to do more than what they're not necessarily capable of doing,
but do more than what they should do to live
up to the standard that's been set. I think this
is a reset with some of the changes on that
roster on both sides of the.
Speaker 7 (36:33):
Ball, with a new receiving crew and with.
Speaker 4 (36:35):
CMC back, the opportunity is there for brock Purty to
do some big things. I think this is kind of
a refresher for the forty nine ers. I don't know
if they'll be dominant early, but we'll see if they
gain some traction and get going as the season goes along.
Speaker 7 (36:49):
But I think Perdy is the least of their worries.
Speaker 4 (36:50):
I think he's kind of the north pole that everybody
can kind of look to to guide them, to guide
them through.
Speaker 3 (36:56):
I like that. I don't want to be body language
expert guy when it comes to Ben Johnson. But Steve,
we keep seeing video of him at the podium looking unhappy.
Speaker 5 (37:06):
Now, maybe he's a serious guy. First head coaching.
Speaker 3 (37:09):
Job, he wants to look like, you know, a tough
guy who was really locked in, but it doesn't seem
and it's early like things are going great with him
in Caleb Williams. Rachel had a good point earlier that
like he's not praising Caleb a ton and a lot
of it is criticism, and I don't know, Caleb is
a little fragile. We had this stuff from Seth Wickersham
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about how I didn't want to go to Chicago in
the first place. What do you make of all this?
Speaker 4 (37:35):
Well, I didn't see Bill Belichick ever very happy. I
know Andy Reids a nice guy, but he's not the
most jovial. So, you know, in terms of how guys
appear at the press conference, I don't really know, you know,
having been in these situations. It's like the meeting rooms
and stuff. If a coach is like glazing you up
or are beating you down in front of the team
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in the meeting rooms and really humiliating you in front
of your peers, that's where things really tend to ruffle
feathers now.
Speaker 7 (38:01):
Some guys, you know, get bent out of see it
by what you said in the media.
Speaker 4 (38:05):
But and I don't know Ben Johnson. I've been around him,
but he's just an intense guy. There are intense coach
you've been around Sean McVay. That dude never relaxes. Now
he is kind of captain positive, yes, but you know,
there's just different coaches with different styles, and I'm Ben
Johnson's got my benefit of the doubt until he does it,
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So we'll we'll see how this works out. I do think,
you know, and I heard the quote that he said,
it's going to take a minute for this entire offense
to get going. They got a new offensive line, a
lot of new pieces. It's going to take a minute.
But once they get it going. With Ben Johnson what
he did in Detroit, defensive coordinators fear some of his scheming.
Speaker 7 (38:44):
We'll see if it translates now that he's in this
new role.
Speaker 3 (38:46):
I love to ask you guys in the media, you
go to camps, you talk to people. I mean, we're
just out here blathering. Is there a team that you
see that's maybe undervalued with respect to what everybody else
is saying. I want that team to be the Falcons,
a team you know, well, they got an injury on
the line this week. It's really bad. Is there a
team that you've seen that you think, hey man, nobody's
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really talking about X. I think they could pop.
Speaker 7 (39:11):
It's the team that's in Atlanta's conference, and that's Tampa Bay.
Speaker 4 (39:13):
It's AM's won the division. I don't think we talk
about them enough roster wise. They are solid pretty much
through and through. But when we talk about teams with
the culture, that's a team that's got a culture we
don't talk about.
Speaker 7 (39:26):
There is a standard there now in Tampa Bay.
Speaker 4 (39:28):
When new players come there, they understand defensively, you better
be physical no matter what you do. Offensively, you better
be precison on time. And we talk about how you know,
first Dave Canalis and Lea and Comb got the best
out of Baker Mayfield. Maybe Baker is the kingmaker, right.
I think Tampa Bay is a team that we better
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start paying a lot more attention to, just because they've
got something institutionally now that's been in place for four
or five years that we've neglected.
Speaker 3 (40:00):
I didn't think about that. Maybe Baker's the guy, not
all these coaches that they keep cycling through. The Baker's
story is fascinating, how he was kind of kicked to
the curb in Cleveland, it was over and then it
was rams and there was one other team.
Speaker 5 (40:14):
And now he's like a full blown pro bowler, right.
Speaker 7 (40:18):
He's legit.
Speaker 4 (40:19):
And when you got Mike Evans and you draft a
Buka who all reviews on him coming out of camp
had been great. You know, with God went on the
shelf to start the season, he's got an opportunity to
keep doing some things.
Speaker 7 (40:31):
And look, he's kind of started this thing.
Speaker 4 (40:34):
You see Geno Smith kind of following there, can Sam
Darnold following there in Seattle where maybe it's more you
get the talented player in the right situation and then
that talent can start to shine as it meshes with
what they do mentally in the confidence factor.
Speaker 3 (40:49):
Yeah, it's similar to brock Purty, like nobody, nobody viewed
him as being a guy who could put up these
numbers and take a team to the Super Bowl. Put
him in the Shanahan offense. Hey, that's fitting. Say well,
Lamar Jackson and Baltimore Right, by the way, do you
who do you have coming out of the AFC Steve.
Speaker 7 (41:05):
Well, I love Baltimore. I mean that's just your team.
Speaker 4 (41:07):
And you know, spending some time at a training Camp,
and I've probably been with the Ravens like the whole time.
You know, you've got the Chiefs, you've got the Bills,
but the Ravens are just so complete. I think the
fact that their defense has its footing. Remember last year
they started with a lot of question marks. The offensive
line started the question marks. Those are solid right now,
so I think they can continue to rock and.
Speaker 7 (41:26):
Roll with Lamar doing. What do you think about that?
Forty one touchdowns, four picks and he wasn't the MVP.
Speaker 3 (41:33):
Amazing Steve Weisch NFL Network, Great stuff, Steve, keep up
the good work. You love your work.
Speaker 7 (41:39):
Appreciate you guys.
Speaker 3 (41:41):
All right, Steve Wish excellent reporter. That the Ben Johnson
stuff is interesting. Rachel made me think. Now Steve's got
me could go sideways in Chicago. What do we do
at second hour? Rachel? Probably getting in trouble here? Will
there be more breaking news? You know, were actually doing
more breaking news, more to get to making life so easy?
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All right, we'll be back our number two. Is there
a college football team ready to do the unthinkable? That's
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Welcome back. It's Wednesday in Los Angeles. It's The Herd.
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I don't know.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
I've never tried that.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
It just came to me. It's me Jason McIntyre filling
in for Colin Cowhard. He is breathlessly texting me updates
about Taylor Swift and Travis Kelcey, and I'm relaying them
to Rachel Nichols, who I'm joined by again today.
Speaker 5 (00:52):
Rachel, No, Colin's not actually texting.
Speaker 6 (00:55):
I'm not sure this is quick.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
This is his last hurrah in now. Maybe he's on
the course I've been, but uh, Rachel and I listen.
We've been hit for breaking news every day, so keep
in locked. Who knows what's coming down now? We did
get a little tease about some not great news, which
we'll get you shortly. Uh, Kansas City Chiefs fans tuned in.
But I'm going to start the show, obviously with the
(01:18):
big news in sports, Travis Kelce Taylor Swift engage. Now,
I know sports fans are already sick of it, their wives,
their girlfriends, their side pieces and whatever, talking about Wait
a minute, what kind of wedding dress is Taylor Swift were?
But do they get a DJ or do they do
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a band? Do they do an international wedding? And there's
all this updates on all the celebrity websites and also
sports websites talking about this union, and folks, I'm gonna
take it in a different direction because we do sports
here on the show, and I'm gonna say, how does
this impact the actual football product of the Kansas City Chiefs?
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And it keeps coming back to one thing that's fairly
obvious that this has to be the last dance for
the triumvirate of Andy Reid, Patrick Mahomes and Travis Kelce.
Speaker 7 (02:10):
Right.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
I mean, you guys remember a few years ago Baker
Mayfield led the NFL in commercials and on the field
the product was not great. Well, what are we doing
with Travis Kelce. I mean, he's talked about retirement. He's
among the league leaders in commercials. He's a full blown celebrity. Now, okay,
he's engaged to the most famous woman on the planet
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and now they're going to be planning a wedding. By
the way, side note, Travis Kelce's dad gave a random
interview to a Cleveland TV station.
Speaker 5 (02:41):
I don't know, there's some kind of connection there, and.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
He said, oh, yeah, basically they got engaged two weeks ago,
which then makes you wonder about that whole podcast appearance.
I don't know. Listen, there's just so much happening here,
but guess what's not happening?
Speaker 7 (02:54):
Football?
Speaker 3 (02:55):
And I mentioned the last dance because Jordan Pippot and
Phil Jack and they knew that that was it. It's
over on some level, guys, Patrick Mahomes has to know
this is it. I mean, Travis Kelce turns thirty six
in October. He's going into the final year of his contract.
He's openly talked about retirement. I mean, he's laying the
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groundwork for a post football career. I mean, he's podcasting.
He's in Happy Go More too. By the way, just
a quick review. I didn't think the movie was great.
It was okay, but I did think Travis Kelcey was
kind of good. I thought Bad Bunny was good. I
didn't even know it was Bad Bunny. But like Travis
kelce wasn't terrible. And you know, he's doing a lot
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of commercials. I have a feeling he's gonna have a
pretty lucrative post football career. But that's post football. We
still have a season to go. And again, I don't
think they were a super Bowl team. I had them
third in my Super Bowl Tier yesterday. Shocker Chiefs fans
did not like that. But when you kind of drill
down and start thinking, like, man, maybe this is coming
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to an end every couple of years. Andy Reid, who
by the way, is sixty seven years old, he's talking
about retirement. So you know, if Kelsey and Reid walked
away after this, it would not shock me. I think
the dynasty is over. They had their shot in the
Super Bowl. They got smashed. Folks. The Rashi Rice news
that's emerging right now, you know, Adam Schefter reporting looks
like it's gonna be the first six games of the season.
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That's putting even more pressure on Travis kelce who oh,
by the way, is coming off a career low in
receiving yards touchdowns. Like, things are not looking great, especially
if for she Rice is cooked for the first six games.
So I'm to say, I know, it's just saying, you know,
don't cry because it's over, Smile because it happened. That's
how I'm feeling about this Chiefs run. As you see
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Mahomes running around celebrating they had a great run, it's over.
And Travis kelcey, you know he could have a great
Swan song. I'm sure he's gonna play better here. Listen,
don't when you run a mile and you're older, you
know you want to come out of the gate hot.
Now I'm competing of whoa, You're running out of gas quickly.
Kelsey's gonna have to step up here early in the season.
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If for she Rice is indeed suspended for six games,
I don't think this is gonna go as great as
everybody's predicting. I know they have my homes and they
have Reid and they have Kelsey, but for how much longer?
This is probably it? Now I'm gonna shift my focus
to a team I actually love and that's the San
Francisco forty nine Ers, another team that I had yesterday
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that was mildly controversial in my Super Bowl tiers.
Speaker 5 (05:32):
I had them in the first tier.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
That was met with a lot of scorn and derision
on the internet, but that's what people do online. And
the focus here is going to be a certain seventh
round quarterback by the name of Rock Perdy. So our
friend Albert Brier was at forty nine Ers camp recently
and he spoke to Shanahan, Sala, Lynch and Purdy and
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brock Perdy had a really interesting quote that jumped out
and all the aggregators were wild. Here's the quote from
brock Perty. I felt this pressure last season on myself
to be a superman type guy, go out and make
plays off schedule. And I did look, and yes, his
rushing numbers were up last season. A lot of that
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was running for his life, because when your star running
backs out and your receiving rooms depleted, you know you
got to try to make plays. Now, I do need
some context here, because brock Perty last year was playing
for a contract. He was making like eight hundred thousand
dollars on that seventh round dead last pick in the
draft rookie deal, and he was looking to get elevated
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to be a forty or fifty million dollar a year guy.
Now more context needed. So this Niners team last year,
we should have seen the drop off coming. Okay, they
had a five year run where they went to two
super Bowls and two conference championships. Perdy got hurt against
the Eagles, the other one they lost, and the one
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year Jimmy Garoppolo got in and they missed the playoffs.
But I totaled it twelve playoff games in a five
year span. So it's no surprise that half the defense
was hurt last year and you see guys dropping like flies.
Twelve playoff games is almost another entire season. Remember the
Golden State Warriors kept going to the finals and then
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really broke down rapidly.
Speaker 5 (07:20):
That was the Niners last year. But I've got a couple.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
Things about Brock Purdy that I'm gonna hit you with
now that are going to be a surprise. So the
narrative was that, you know, he wasn't good last year
and he was trying to be superman. He was playing
for a contract, and hey, as Colin likes to say,
the weather was bad, and brock Purdy crumbled. Well, you know,
I do not like the blind taste tests when it
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comes to quarterbacks. I feel like it's cheap and people
kind of cherry pickstats. But I this morning just looking
at stats for brock Purty last year to go with
these quotes, and then I looked at the leaderboard. I'm like, wait,
brock Purdy was not that bad last year. So, folks,
here is the first of two. I'm gonna compare brock
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Party to another quarterback in the NFL last year. So
you see his passing yards perty plus about one hundred
touchdown interceptions.
Speaker 5 (08:15):
Party more touchdowns, more interceptions, yards per attempt.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
He was not a checkdown artist eight point five, much
better than this other quarterback, and better in passer rating.
Speaker 5 (08:25):
Let's see who the other quarterback is.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
Oh, oh, Matthew Stafford, the much beloved Matthew Stafford. I
like Stafford. I'm a Stafford guy. But Stafford wasn't great
last year. So Stafford wasn't great. How was brock Purty awful? Okay,
that's number one. Now the staff came up with a
second one. I don't know who this guy is was
I knew the other one was Stafford. So here are
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the numbers. Stafford again, more passing yards, more touchdowns, even interceptions,
way better in yards per attempt, and better in passer rating.
Let's see who the quarterback was compared to brock Purty
last year. CJ. Stroud. Oh wait a minute, brock Perty
in his down year was better than Stroud statistically and
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better than Stafford. What so brock Purty was it bad? Okay,
their tat is telling me right. Now we have one
more blind resume. Again, this wasn't run by me, so
I have no idea who this guy is. Touchdowns even,
yards per attempt edge to Purty, completion percentage dead even.
All right, let's see who this quarterback is, Rock Purty
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versus Oh my, no, is that Justin Herbert? So again
we can bag on brock Purty all we want the numbers.
Facts say he was better than Justin Herbert, Matt Stafford,
and c J. Stroud last year. That's a bit of
a boom. My kid likes to do truth bomb, you know,
with the head exploding emoji. That's what I'm seeing there
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for brock Purty. So we have Greg Cosell last week.
Now I was on vacation. I heard brought in Greg
Coseelt to take shots at pretty I don't know if
he took shots.
Speaker 8 (10:03):
Here we go in terms of being what we call
a post snap operator. In other words, when he takes
the snap, he has such an intuitive feel for what
he sees, and therefore he's a really really good timing
and anticipation thrower. It's just innate to him. He sees
it really quickly. So Purdy is a high level post
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snap operator. He's a really really good player. Purdy is
a really good quarterback. He's just not a dynamic athlete
who is necessarily going to make those kind of special
plays on his own. But as a pocket quarterback, he's
pretty high level.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
Cosell dropping a little truth bomb there on my guy,
brock Purty. So I do want to say, I try
to help you guys out, okay, try to help you
be a little smarter on the gambling front, the fantasy
the takes and sometimes you don't want it or you
want to.
Speaker 5 (10:59):
Just argue with me, folks.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
Just a few facts here. The forty nine ers this
season are favored in fifteen of seventeen games. Fifteen Er
sent they're gonna be awesome, and the only two times
are dogs. They're short road dogs against. I think it's
the Rams and Bucks back to back. Okay, so they're
gonna be good. I don't care that you think, oh,
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the defense is washed, all these new guys, they're gonna
be really good. Yeah, there it is. They're at the
Rams and Bucks back to back in weeks five and six.
They are slight dogs. That schedule is Cupcake City. Go
find me the elite quarterbacks outside of Stafford on that
list and take your time, because there aren't any folks.
The Niners are going to be really freaking good last year. Now,
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I'm gonna be honest. If I asked you the audience,
give me the best offense and defensive coaching combos in
the league heading into this season, and I'll give you
one right out of the gate. Andy Reid and Spagnolo.
They can be number one.
Speaker 5 (12:01):
Okay, who's second best in the league?
Speaker 3 (12:04):
If you want to say Sean Payton and Vance Joseph,
I'm not gonna fight you. Okay, I'll give you that,
but I'll tell you right now, Kyle Shanahan and Robert
Sala has to be top three, top four at worst. Okay,
I know you're gonna bag on Salah. He was a
disaster with the Jets. Actually, guys, Robert Sala, in two
and a half seasons with the Jets, the defense first
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in points per drive, first in EPA per play, third
in defensive success rate. It wasn't Sala's fault as a
defensive coordinator running the Jets d It wasn't on him.
Aaron Rodgers stunk and he got hurt, and the Jets
are a full blown disaster top down every year. But
it wasn't Sala's fault. I'm just telling you the Niners
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are gonna be really good. You can get on board
early and do the victory lap with me come November
when they're looking at a number one seed, or you
can just continue to have your opinion off rock parties
at seventh round. He's garbage.
Speaker 7 (13:01):
You know who?
Speaker 3 (13:01):
You sound like the guy who was bagging on Tom
Brady early in his career. Oh, he's a game manager.
J Mack, He's not that good. Drew Bledsoe was the man,
and you kept saying that about Brady until you just
couldn't say it anymore, and he became the greatest quarterback
in NFL history. Like, stop being wedded to your take
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open your eyes rock perty last year, better than Stafford,
numbers wise, better than Herbert, better than CJ. Stroud, forty
nine ers favored in fifteen or seventeen games. I'm telling
you right now, get on board. You don't want to
be left behind now, Rachel. I know that's a big
plea to the audience. Hey, you can rock with me
or you can just like argue with me. But I
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feel irrationally good. You're laughing.
Speaker 9 (13:49):
I'm laughing.
Speaker 6 (13:49):
I think you're right well, first of all.
Speaker 9 (13:51):
And I'm laughing because for people out there who don't
buy what you're saying, you said, oh, it's a cupcave schedule.
It's the easiest schedule. It's thirty two, it's number thirty two.
Speaker 6 (14:02):
It is the.
Speaker 9 (14:02):
Easiest schedule in the NFL this season. My concern, and
we talked about it earlier in the week, is just
the injuries. I mean that wide receiver room has been decimated.
And Christian McCaffrey.
Speaker 6 (14:12):
Is still healthy. That's good. He's made it through preseason healthy. Yeah,
but you know we've.
Speaker 9 (14:17):
Talked about it that he is I don't want to
say fragile, because no one who plays that position is fragile, frankly,
but someone who has had an injury history, right, So
you just kind of worry if some of those tools
at brock Perty's disposal are going to be available, right,
that's my nice here.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
We need brand and ay you back. That'll be nice
if you could get help.
Speaker 9 (14:33):
It's not going to be immediate, right. So he's still
recovering from the knee injuries. So you know, it's one
of those things where health and luck as always have
to help these guys out.
Speaker 6 (14:43):
A little bit. But if it's even normal.
Speaker 9 (14:46):
Health at luck which they have not experienced so far
in the preseason, but hopefully once the season gets going,
if they can just return to a normal amount of injuries,
then I'm with you all the way. I think this
will surprise some people. We talked about the NFC West,
you know, I am not as bullish on the Rams
being you know, I just Stafford. I don't know if
he's gonna make it through the whole season. So I
think that we talked at about the forty nine ers, all.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
Right, I love agrievent to start the show, all right,
coming up next, stat Emerge yesterday on Rachel's Commanders. That
is gonna surprise. I was stunned by this. Is it
going to hold them back from the Super Bowl? That's
next here on the Herd.
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He's really locked in now. I know he knows the Falcons. Well,
they had a big injury this week. Not great for
my Falcons futures. But let's go to a team that
someone actually cares about, and that's the Washington Commanders. What
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a story they were last year, right, You had the
Daniel Snyder having to give up on a lose his ownership.
You got the new group coming in, new front office,
new quarterback, knew everything, and it clicked on a level
that I mean, I can't recall seeing that rapid of
a turnaround. Shout out to Dan Quinn, great job. But
a stat came out yesterday about Washington kind of blew
(17:12):
me away. The Washington Commanders now have the oldest roster
in the NFL. And oh, by the way, it is
the oldest roster in the NFL in the last twenty years.
People actually track this stuff. I get it. When you
are rebooting with a new owner, new front office, new coach,
new rookie quarterback, you need some veterans. So last year
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they brought in some veterans. You know, Zach Ertz linebacker
Bobby Wagner, who was ridiculous. Last year. He grated out
as the third best middle linebacker in the league. Okay,
he's like thirty four thirty five, and that's I don't
mean to make be like an agist, but let's be real.
Once you hit thirty in the NFL, outside of quarterback,
you're getting old. And they brought an Austin Eckler running
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back who's on the older side. This year they bring
in Von Miller Laramie Tunsel like they're an older team.
Deebo Samuel's kind of older. So they've got all these veterans.
But then you start to look at the history of
the oldest teams in the league and it's not pretty
at all, and you start to wonder. Okay, so last
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year they got a little lucky eight and four in
one score games. It wasn't Kansas City Chiefs eleven or zero,
but eight and four is really really good. And oh,
by the way, they beat the Bears on a flukail Mary.
They survived the Saints on a two point conversion deal.
Remember Jayden Daniels was incredible in that game. Jaan Daniell
was pretty incredible all season. Okay, this stat is arguably
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like a top five stat from last season in the
entire NFL. So fourth down. If you can go fifty
sixty percent on fourth down, that's amazing, Right, you get
every other fourth down you go for you get that, that
would be incredible. The Washington Commanders were twenty of twenty
three on fourth down last season, eighty seven percent. That
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is unsustainable. I don't know if that'll ever be matched.
When you look at the amount of attempts they at
twenty to twenty three, I would kill for that as
my free throw percentage of my men's basketball league. Washington
did that on fourth down, the highest leverage down. The
defensive cordators are emptying the kitchen sink on the blitz
a lot of pressure. Twenty to twenty three is ridiculous.
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Can Jaden Daniels do that again? Probably not. And then
you start to wonder like, is this old roster like
they got through last season. What happens if there's an
injury to Bobby Wagner, what happens if the von Miller
can't really be a factor, zach Ertz get gets banged up.
These guys are getting older. And you start to look
up it on the schedule and you're like, oh, this
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is a very tough schedule. This is arguable top five
schedule in the league. You get the layup against the
Giants early. It is a divisional matchup. Could be tricky,
right with the Giants front seven, Maybe they surprise the
hell out of you. But I mean Packers, I think
the Falcons are gonna be good. You get the Chargers.
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I mean Minnesota Vikings are gonna be good. We know
the Broncos are hella good. Detroit Lions, like that is
a difficult schedule, and you start to wonder, all right,
I know they were one in four against playoff teams
last year, but who cares jay they And by the way,
that one win was Week eighteen against Kenny or whatever.
I don't know if it was Week eight team was
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late in the season when Jalen Hurts got hurt and
Kenny Pickett had to like fill in, like, guys, what
are we doing you now? They did beat Detroit and
Tampa in the playoffs, awesome, but a lot of things
are lining up to make it look like Washington could
have could have a very difficult season ahead. Let's go
to Rachel with the news.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
No, no, no, this is the herd Line news.
Speaker 6 (20:56):
Well we got breaking news. You want to breaking news?
Speaker 3 (20:58):
Oh yeah, yeah, sure, breaking news.
Speaker 9 (21:00):
Jason Rashid Rice was facing a potential suspension from the
league for violating the Personal Conduct Policy. You may remember
he is under investigation for several final felonies about causing
an accident racing at high speeds with the Lamborghini and
a highway while according to Diana Russini, Rice.
Speaker 6 (21:18):
Has accepted a sixth game.
Speaker 9 (21:19):
Suspension from the NFL after they originally were looking to
hand him ten games. So he's decided to accept six.
Says A couple impacts here, right, is that, first of all,
his arbitration hearing if they had gone to that, if
they really actually gone to the battle, it wasn't going
to be until September thirtieth, So whatever games he had
missed would have been in the middle of the season
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or if the NFL got it in his way almost
to the end of the season.
Speaker 6 (21:44):
Right, this way, he accepts.
Speaker 9 (21:46):
The six games, which is better than ten. I think
they had been looking for four bit better than ten.
And it will start right at the beginning of the season.
So we can see the schedule up there, Jason, you
can see kind of.
Speaker 6 (21:59):
How much that's going to hurt them.
Speaker 9 (22:00):
What do you think is going to happen with Patrick
Mahomes and the offense.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
Well, I'm just looking at the depth chart. So Hollywood
Brown listed as questionable. It feels like he came out
of the womb questionable. Xavier Worthy is good, but he's
more of a gadget guy. I don't think he's like
a rice. You can lean on him for ten catches.
Speaker 6 (22:15):
Right, yeah, and he's still you know, young.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
Ish, right young yesh Yes, Travis Kelcey and Noah Gray
then listen, man, I don't think this is going to
be easy. They're running back room unchanged, really, Pacheco and
kareemont Rachel. Again, I know I sound like a hater.
I don't see this as going great this season for
the Chiefs. Now, you could look at this as good
news that They've now got an extra what eight days
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to prepare, ten days to prepare for week one, knowing
Rice is not going to be there to pull him
out of the game plan. Yeah, can they go four
and two without him? Or is that too generous?
Speaker 9 (22:51):
I mean, if you look at their schedule, right, go
back to that. Then they start with the Chargers in Brazil.
They're still going to be favored.
Speaker 6 (22:57):
To win that game.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
Yeah, Chargers play them tough though, I know, but.
Speaker 6 (23:00):
They're still gonna be favored win that game. Right.
Speaker 9 (23:02):
They were facing the Eagles in Week two and they
were favored in that game, and now I don't know, right.
Speaker 5 (23:08):
Yeah, well coming back with there's not a lot of
data coming.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
Back from Brazil.
Speaker 6 (23:12):
What's that?
Speaker 3 (23:13):
What's that trip like?
Speaker 9 (23:14):
Right? And then Giants obviously they should still win that game. Yeah, right,
Ravens going to be very tough.
Speaker 6 (23:20):
Yeah, Jaguars, despite.
Speaker 9 (23:23):
You deciding Jacksonville is the powerhouses in the NFL, Mysteriously,
we don't know why they should win that game.
Speaker 6 (23:29):
Lions, I mean, she gets streaky to be.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
All right, three and three, four and two, right, and
if they go five and one, lights out, you're going
to the playoffs. They're going to get excited for. But
interesting how they they don't have to go on the
road for the Eagles or Ravens or Lions exactly, And
ifl did them a favor huh wow, uf Kames all
in Kansas City. Maybe so Taylor could attend the gates.
Speaker 9 (23:51):
Yeah, exactly. They want to make sure that they get
her up there a lot. So, oh, I have math
for you on that. By the way, she was on
the cast August thirteenth. And if you do detective work
on when Kelsey's dad said they got engaged, that was
a tenth.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
So maybe after the podcast maybe, I don't know. Basically,
he did seem giddy on the podcast vide.
Speaker 6 (24:14):
I think it was right around the same time.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
There you go, No chiefs read from Rachelton Black for
the feuds exactly.
Speaker 9 (24:23):
All right, Let's say the Dallas drama continues around like
a Parsons contract negotiations, no end in sight. The Cowboys
kick off the season in Philadelphia for the first time.
Brian Schottenheimer actually admitted persons could be limited even if
he does play a week one take.
Speaker 11 (24:38):
A listen at the end of the day. As soon
as he get out there, that's great. But again, there'll
be a ramp up plan for him, and you know,
when he lines up out there to play. You know,
do I think he would play seventy five plays in
every play? Probably not, you know, I don't think that
that's real, But I do think that he can be
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very disruptive. Like we all, the best way to get
good at football and is to play football. Then, so
I would say as soon as possible would be would
be the desired effect.
Speaker 9 (25:09):
The desired effect would be as soon as possible, Jason,
so important to really take it.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
Yeah, yeah, definitely.
Speaker 6 (25:14):
My question back, I know.
Speaker 9 (25:15):
My question for you though, is so Dak Prescott signed
on literally the day of the season opener, but he
had been practicing the entire time, and he had no injury,
right Micah purported to have had backnightness. He's now been
medically cleared. We can decide how much of a negotiating
tactic that was.
Speaker 6 (25:34):
But he hasn't practiced at all.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
That's a little surprising, isn't it.
Speaker 6 (25:38):
And so well, I mean not from his perspective, but.
Speaker 9 (25:40):
Yeah, so, at what point would you if you were
coaching the Cowboys and you had the balance trying to
win a very big, high profile game, but also not
wanting to get your forty million plus player hurt.
Speaker 6 (25:56):
What day would he have to return to.
Speaker 9 (25:57):
Practice for you to feel good about playing, even in
a limited number of snaps the way shot he's talking about,
and so.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
What do you say is limited number of STAPs like
situational if it's third and seven or more, let's put
him in. Just go get the quarterback. You don't have
to worry about the run game or.
Speaker 6 (26:17):
That it's hard.
Speaker 9 (26:18):
The number he threw autor is like, oh, he's not
going to play seventy five snaps?
Speaker 6 (26:21):
Well, yeah, of course not.
Speaker 9 (26:22):
But is he going to play as you said, just
unlike sort of tricky third downs?
Speaker 6 (26:26):
Is it going to be a.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
Lot twenty snaps?
Speaker 4 (26:29):
Thirty?
Speaker 3 (26:30):
Because you know the Eagles are going to identify, Hey,
he's on the field. He hasn't practiced it forever, he
ain't ready, let's go at him.
Speaker 9 (26:35):
They only have three days of practice scheduled at home
and then they fly.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
Yeah, it's starting to seem like maybe he shouldn't even
play if he's not back like by this weekend, right
and at those three practices, right, Yeah, I mean, I
know he's been around the league with four years five years,
like he can.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
Just go in and make plays.
Speaker 9 (26:52):
It's physical though, I mean that's the question to me,
is physically. I mean you the thing you cannot have
happened after all of this is for him to get
hurt and miss a month, right, So.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
I wonder what do you I would love to get
Michael on you. Hey, what's your workout like? Since you're
not practicing with the team, they're out there grinding two days,
you know, is it?
Speaker 2 (27:10):
What are you doing?
Speaker 9 (27:12):
I mean your workout guide, Like there's a huge difference
between I lifted and weights and I ran on the
treadmill and actual live football.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
That's yeah, So I don't know, maybe you're making you're
selling me like I don't know that he's gonna play
that much at all. Hey, Jerry, let's blame Jerry for this?
Could we do that?
Speaker 6 (27:29):
Just of course? Why not? Let me let's go over
to the Bears.
Speaker 9 (27:33):
Ben Johnson has been looking to leave his mark on
there his new team is he heats into the first
regular season game. One thing he has talked about since
the beginning of training camp, though, was the slow starts
from the offense, and he said it's more than just the.
Speaker 12 (27:47):
Quarterback it's not Caleb, it's it's everybody. It's everybody, and
it's coaches included, and all this thing, and so we're
not pointing fingers. The whole thing is we just got
to be focused. We've got to be in intentional. We
like to talk about you know, if we get seventy
plays in a game, those are seventy bullets for us
to shoot off, and we need each one account. We
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can't be missing, we can't be wasting. There are no
breather plays in this league. Each thing is really important.
The details are really important, and I think it's going
to add up and we'll be just fine.
Speaker 6 (28:20):
You buying that.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
I don't know, Rachel. I don't want to be buddy
language expert guy. But if you look at all these
Ben Johnson clips all summer, he doesn't seem like happy.
He seems like tight, and you don't see a lot
of smiling. He almost looks frustrated. Am I reading too
much into that?
Speaker 9 (28:38):
No?
Speaker 6 (28:39):
I think you're right.
Speaker 9 (28:39):
I mean, look, I think he's a high intensity.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
Guy, big.
Speaker 9 (28:42):
But I asked you guys this morning in the meeting,
have we heard him sort of wax poetic about Caleb
Williams ever has there ever been sort of a like man,
I really see a lot in him. He still needs
some polishing, but I haven't haven't listened to every single
quote this guy has had after everything.
Speaker 6 (29:00):
Practice, So that's more why I'm asking the question.
Speaker 9 (29:02):
But he has not projected overall a lot of positivity
about the quarterback he's working with, and I just wonder
in a new head coach quarterback relationship. There's no question
that Williams has a history of starting slowly, and this
is exactly what he's talking about.
Speaker 6 (29:19):
This is a lot different than Jared Goff.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
Yeah, starting to get bad vibes about the Bears. Maybe
I'm being too negative, but they're you know, football war analogies,
Like it's different being like a lieutenant and a general.
He's in charge of everything in Detroit. It was just
Jared Goff, like you said in the office take, I
could create some jazzy plays and hook and ladders. That's
easy when you just got one thing to focus on.
(29:43):
But this is like I got to deal with the
media every day. I got to deal with my quarterback,
what's going on with special teams? And maybe that's why
he is not really seeming like he's having fun.
Speaker 6 (29:54):
I don't know. I mean, this is a problem. They
have to clean it up.
Speaker 9 (29:57):
Last season, the Bears ranked thirtieth in terms of slowest
starts in the NFL.
Speaker 6 (30:02):
So you can't can't start that way.
Speaker 5 (30:05):
Yeah, oh, that's not any of those teams good.
Speaker 9 (30:08):
In that last preseason game, they were down seventeen to
oh before they scored finally afield on.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
Yeah, not ideal. I'm I just don't think this is
a playoff team. Shoot, you got them in the playoffs.
Speaker 9 (30:19):
I don't Yeah, yeah, but you know Collins and Chicago.
Speaker 6 (30:22):
He might have a different, different story.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
Rachel with the news.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by the.
Speaker 3 (30:30):
Herd line news right coming up next, is this really
the end of the Chiefs with Travis Kelcey likely bouncing
after the season, And who blinks first in Dallas? That's next.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
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Speaker 3 (31:02):
Back here on the Herd, Let's bring in Steve Weiss,
NFL reporter NFL Network. He's been there since two thousand
and eight. Steve, thanks for joining us on this day
with more breaking news involving the Chiefs. This is actual
on field product as opposed to the Kelsey Swift engagement.
But obviously the Rashid Rice news just broke I'm curious
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a your reaction and b you know what do you
think the impact will be on Kansas City's offense.
Speaker 7 (31:32):
Yeah, my colleague Tom Pelasero broke that.
Speaker 4 (31:35):
And what's interesting, remember he had a date set for
late September, right, so that was a lot him to play,
find out his fate, all of this stuff. By now,
he's getting this out of the way. So he suspended
for six weeks. According to Tom, he'll be able to
come back in week seven and then they can get rolling.
So that allows the Chiefs on the field to kind
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of set their rotation and everything from now.
Speaker 7 (32:00):
It allows Rice.
Speaker 4 (32:01):
Not to go back and forth like we've seen some
players go back and forth in the past. Are they
going to play again? Remember Zeke Elliott? Are they not
going to play? So that just clears a hurdle of
the unknown. So we'll see how is she Rice, who's
a valuable part of what they do, how he figures
in when he comes back mid season.
Speaker 7 (32:19):
But again, for the.
Speaker 4 (32:20):
Chiefs football wise, it just allows him. Let's establish this,
this is out of the way. Now all sides can
function kind of knowing what is there.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
Yeah, it's weird.
Speaker 7 (32:31):
Rice.
Speaker 3 (32:33):
He hasn't played enough for us to know if he's great,
But in that one season he kind of popped. He
looked like he had top ten receiver potential, right with
the speed and the strength.
Speaker 4 (32:42):
Yeah, I mean, and he helps out what they like
to do in that offense, right, Remember he does the
up the seam stuff. He kind of helps Kelsey clear
things out in that middle of the field.
Speaker 7 (32:51):
Plus you could tell Mahomes really likes him. I mean,
they've got a chemistry there.
Speaker 4 (32:56):
I think they're both Dallas area guys, Texas guys, and
they train a lot in the off season together, so
that chemistry helps. And so not having him, they knew
it was a possibility. They didn't have them most of
last year. They worked around it. So now they'll work
around it again, find a way and when he comes back,
it could be kind of a cherry on top type
of thing.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
Now, last year the receiver room was not great, certainly
bottom half of the league. Now you're looking at Hollywood Brown,
Xavier Worthy. Juju, says Schuster. I don't does this put
more pressure on Travis Kelce, who oh, by the way,
is thirty five and all the almost thirty six.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
No.
Speaker 7 (33:32):
I mean, look, the Chiefs do what they do.
Speaker 4 (33:34):
Last year, the issue wasn't so much the receiving core,
but it was the offensive line.
Speaker 7 (33:38):
Yeah, I mean, they just didn't play well. They had
issues that left tackle.
Speaker 4 (33:40):
Then they moved tuneing out from guard to tackle, some
uncertainty at.
Speaker 7 (33:44):
That guard spot for a while.
Speaker 4 (33:45):
I think if that part is solidified, and we know
they did some things to try to change that offensive line,
including drafting someone in the first round, if that part solidified,
the Chiefs are going to do what they do. I mean,
as long as you got number fifteen, if they've got
a dink and dunk, they'll do that. They're the field
here and there, they'll do that. So I don't think
it's so much on Kelsey and that receiving crew as
he is on the guys up front to let that
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offense function the way Andy Reid wants it to function.
Speaker 5 (34:09):
So let's go to Kelsey real quick.
Speaker 3 (34:10):
Obviously, you know he's a celebrity now, he was in
a movie, he's podcasting, he's engaged to Taylor Swift. Also
entering the final year of his contract. He's talked about
retirement in the past, talked about all the surgeries he's had.
We would it's safe to assume this is his last ride.
And I'm just curious, do you think you know? Andy
Reid is sixty seven. There's been speculation previously whether or
(34:33):
not he hangs them up. I mean, is there a
world where this is really the final run for Red,
Mahmes and Kelsey together.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
It could be.
Speaker 7 (34:41):
I don't envision it.
Speaker 4 (34:42):
I mean, knowing those those guys as much as I do,
I mean, maybe Travis steps away. I'll tell you this,
He's got his body really together. I saw him some
stuff this offseason. He looks different, he looks fresh. Maybe
now that he's engaged, you know, he's going to be
super fresh. I don't know, well with Andy Reid, he
seems someone to me like he just I don't know
(35:03):
what he would do without coaching, And I just think
that's that's kind of something he hangs on to because
he knows he impacts lives in a lot of ways. Besides,
he saw on the field and with his staff, and
of course Patrick Mahomes is going to be there.
Speaker 7 (35:16):
So I don't envision it.
Speaker 4 (35:18):
That's not to say it couldn't happen, but right now
I don't see Andy retaining.
Speaker 7 (35:22):
You know what, this is one last rodeo we're going out.
Speaker 3 (35:26):
Let me pivot to Brock Purdy if you don't mind.
I am a brock pretty guy. I think he's undervalued significantly.
He had a quote to Albert Breer saying, he, you know,
tried to do too much and be superman last year.
I mean, Steve, their whole team was banged up. He's
played for a contract. I think he can be superman.
I mean, we have a couple of years worth of
(35:46):
data on this guy. He's really good, is he not.
Speaker 7 (35:50):
I'm with you.
Speaker 4 (35:51):
I've been a brock pretty guy ever since he came
in mid stream as a third stringer against the Dolphins
and put up numbers like he's been playing all of
a sudden. The thirds don't get reps. So the fact
he played that way showed me he's got something to him.
I could see him trying to over extend himself last
year because there's a certain standard with the forty nine
ers and with you know, Trent Williams down, Deebo, Samuel Down,
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Brandon you know, not having a good year, Brandon Ayuk.
Speaker 7 (36:15):
Down, a lot of defenders down. This just wasn't the
same team.
Speaker 4 (36:20):
So a lot of times guys are going to try
to do more than what they're not necessarily capable of doing,
but do more than what they should do to live
up to the standard that's been set. I think this
is a reset with some of the changes on that
roster on both sides of the.
Speaker 7 (36:33):
Ball, with a new receiving crew and with.
Speaker 4 (36:35):
CMC back, the opportunity is there for brock Purty to
do some big things. I think this is kind of
a refresher for the forty nine ers. I don't know
if they'll be dominant early, but we'll see if they
gain some traction and get going as the season goes along.
Speaker 7 (36:49):
But I think Perdy is the least of their worries.
Speaker 4 (36:50):
I think he's kind of the north pole that everybody
can kind of look to to guide them, to guide
them through.
Speaker 3 (36:56):
I like that. I don't want to be body language
expert guy when it comes to Ben Johnson. But Steve,
we keep seeing video of him at the podium looking unhappy.
Speaker 5 (37:06):
Now, maybe he's a serious guy. First head coaching.
Speaker 3 (37:09):
Job, he wants to look like, you know, a tough
guy who was really locked in, but it doesn't seem
and it's early like things are going great with him
in Caleb Williams. Rachel had a good point earlier that
like he's not praising Caleb a ton and a lot
of it is criticism, and I don't know, Caleb is
a little fragile. We had this stuff from Seth Wickersham
(37:29):
about how I didn't want to go to Chicago in
the first place. What do you make of all this?
Speaker 4 (37:35):
Well, I didn't see Bill Belichick ever very happy. I
know Andy Reids a nice guy, but he's not the
most jovial. So, you know, in terms of how guys
appear at the press conference, I don't really know, you know,
having been in these situations. It's like the meeting rooms
and stuff. If a coach is like glazing you up
or are beating you down in front of the team
(37:56):
in the meeting rooms and really humiliating you in front
of your peers, that's where things really tend to ruffle
feathers now.
Speaker 7 (38:01):
Some guys, you know, get bent out of see it
by what you said in the media.
Speaker 4 (38:05):
But and I don't know Ben Johnson. I've been around him,
but he's just an intense guy. There are intense coach
you've been around Sean McVay. That dude never relaxes. Now
he is kind of captain positive, yes, but you know,
there's just different coaches with different styles, and I'm Ben
Johnson's got my benefit of the doubt until he does it,
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So we'll we'll see how this works out. I do think,
you know, and I heard the quote that he said,
it's going to take a minute for this entire offense
to get going. They got a new offensive line, a
lot of new pieces. It's going to take a minute.
But once they get it going. With Ben Johnson what
he did in Detroit, defensive coordinators fear some of his scheming.
Speaker 7 (38:44):
We'll see if it translates now that he's in this
new role.
Speaker 3 (38:46):
I love to ask you guys in the media, you
go to camps, you talk to people. I mean, we're
just out here blathering. Is there a team that you
see that's maybe undervalued with respect to what everybody else
is saying. I want that team to be the Falcons,
a team you know, well, they got an injury on
the line this week. It's really bad. Is there a
team that you've seen that you think, hey man, nobody's
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really talking about X. I think they could pop.
Speaker 7 (39:11):
It's the team that's in Atlanta's conference, and that's Tampa Bay.
Speaker 4 (39:13):
It's AM's won the division. I don't think we talk
about them enough roster wise. They are solid pretty much
through and through. But when we talk about teams with
the culture, that's a team that's got a culture we
don't talk about.
Speaker 7 (39:26):
There is a standard there now in Tampa Bay.
Speaker 4 (39:28):
When new players come there, they understand defensively, you better
be physical no matter what you do. Offensively, you better
be precison on time. And we talk about how you know,
first Dave Canalis and Lea and Comb got the best
out of Baker Mayfield. Maybe Baker is the kingmaker, right.
I think Tampa Bay is a team that we better
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start paying a lot more attention to, just because they've
got something institutionally now that's been in place for four
or five years that we've neglected.
Speaker 3 (40:00):
I didn't think about that. Maybe Baker's the guy, not
all these coaches that they keep cycling through. The Baker's
story is fascinating, how he was kind of kicked to
the curb in Cleveland, it was over and then it
was rams and there was one other team.
Speaker 5 (40:14):
And now he's like a full blown pro bowler, right.
Speaker 7 (40:18):
He's legit.
Speaker 4 (40:19):
And when you got Mike Evans and you draft a
Buka who all reviews on him coming out of camp
had been great. You know, with God went on the
shelf to start the season, he's got an opportunity to
keep doing some things.
Speaker 7 (40:31):
And look, he's kind of started this thing.
Speaker 4 (40:34):
You see Geno Smith kind of following there, can Sam
Darnold following there in Seattle where maybe it's more you
get the talented player in the right situation and then
that talent can start to shine as it meshes with
what they do mentally in the confidence factor.
Speaker 3 (40:49):
Yeah, it's similar to brock Purty, like nobody, nobody viewed
him as being a guy who could put up these
numbers and take a team to the Super Bowl. Put
him in the Shanahan offense. Hey, that's fitting. Say well,
Lamar Jackson and Baltimore Right, by the way, do you
who do you have coming out of the AFC Steve.
Speaker 7 (41:05):
Well, I love Baltimore. I mean that's just your team.
Speaker 4 (41:07):
And you know, spending some time at a training Camp,
and I've probably been with the Ravens like the whole time.
You know, you've got the Chiefs, you've got the Bills,
but the Ravens are just so complete. I think the
fact that their defense has its footing. Remember last year
they started with a lot of question marks. The offensive
line started the question marks. Those are solid right now,
so I think they can continue to rock and.
Speaker 7 (41:26):
Roll with Lamar doing. What do you think about that?
Forty one touchdowns, four picks and he wasn't the MVP.
Speaker 3 (41:33):
Amazing Steve Weisch NFL Network, Great stuff, Steve, keep up
the good work. You love your work.
Speaker 7 (41:39):
Appreciate you guys.
Speaker 3 (41:41):
All right, Steve Wish excellent reporter. That the Ben Johnson
stuff is interesting. Rachel made me think. Now Steve's got
me could go sideways in Chicago. What do we do
at second hour? Rachel? Probably getting in trouble here? Will
there be more breaking news? You know, were actually doing
more breaking news, more to get to making life so easy?
(42:02):
All right, we'll be back our number two. Is there
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