January 1, 2026 • 42 mins
FOX Sports Radio hosts Rob Parker and Kerry Rhodes are in for Colin, and the guys debate whether Miami (FL)’s upset win over Ohio State was actually bad for college football, discuss how college football can take back Saturdays in December from the NFL, and tell us if the Detroit Lions should explore dumping quarterback Jared Goff. Plus, Big Ten Network analyst Yogi Roth swings by to discuss all the biggest headlines around the College Football Playoff.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:20):
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Speaker 3 (00:32):
Yo, Happy New Year, My goodness, gracious it is to
her Collins off, of course, is New Year's Day. Happy
New Year at everybody. Rob Parker from the Odd Couple.
You hear us seven to ten eastern Monday through Friday
here on Fox Sports Radio. Let me bring in, of course,
(00:53):
the former All pro safety carry Roads.
Speaker 4 (00:57):
Yes, what's up, my man?
Speaker 5 (00:59):
They did a better job already, Carrie Rhodes and not
Carrie Washington.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
I was a little shook the other night, but we
were doing the show. You know, I know who you are. Yeah,
and uh yes, the big show the next three hours
on the Herd here. I got a lot of stuff
to get involved in. We also want to hear from you.
It's a New Year's Day, a lot going on. We
will throw out Rob G. Rob G is our producer.
(01:23):
He of course produces the Odd Couple USC. Chris is
engineer today, so we got the crew working on a
holiday and uh, Rob G and Chris, what's happening?
Speaker 4 (01:34):
Happy New Year to you guys. Happy New Year. It
is wonderful to be in the Year of Horse. Is
that horse?
Speaker 6 (01:42):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (01:43):
The horse?
Speaker 5 (01:44):
So mister ed has made a comeback? Is that what
we're he next? He's gonna come in later in the year.
He's not coming right.
Speaker 7 (01:52):
Don't spoil our hour three special guests. Okay, all right,
I just wanted to make sure, all right, Uh Carrie.
Obviously college football.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
Playoff the big game last night, yep, Ohio State Miami.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
Yeah, what you got? How shocked were you? I was
not shocked at all. Rob.
Speaker 5 (02:13):
I actually told my host on Sundays nine from two
to five pm Pacific Standard time, Dan Byer. He's an
Ohio State fan, obviously, and I told him to watch
out for this game. I thought Miami had enough defense,
enough pass rush to affect Ohio State. And I mean
they have something to prove, right, They were one of
the last teams, and I think they were the last
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that large bid team and possibly and you know they've
been they were at one point.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
In the year considered the best team in football. So
you know, you have a bump.
Speaker 5 (02:42):
You lose a game here in the regular season and
you think that team can't win. That team was more
than capable of winning, and they showed that last night.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
But is that what we have or is this what college.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
Football has made happen, which is putting all these teams
in teams taking bys. I mean, let's just be honest,
and I'm not making any excuses because Miami dominates. Okay,
they the first half, Uh Ohio State was lucky to
be down fourteen to nothing.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
Am I right? They fumbled in the red zone early.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
I think their first possession, they should have been up
by three or four.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
Score three scores at least easy.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
Okay, and when Miami scored in the second half, the
game right away becomes a ballgame, right, fourteen seven?
Speaker 4 (03:26):
Whatever? But I'm my point is.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
This is.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
Teams that get buys in the first round. They haven't
won six new format. I haven't won the game yet.
Excuse me. I'm not used to being up so early
this morning. I got my hot team. We'll get it together.
But oh to five, yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
And five, Ohio State hadn't played football carry you're the
former football player. Yep, in twenty five days. Yes, you
can't tell me that doesn't affect you. And I'm not
making excuses because last year Ohio State was the number
eight seed and they blew out the number one seed,
blew them out by right twenty someth important twenty points.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
Yes, tell me like playing.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
We saw this in baseball a couple of years ago too,
when they gave the number one seeds in baseball off.
They all lost, Atlanta loss, the Dodgers lock, everybody lost,
and they said, well, you used to playing, and now
you're getting a break and the other team is continuing
to play. What do you make of what has happened
here for college football? I mean that Ohio State is out. Yeah,
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I mean the fact that Ohio State is out. I
don't think that's I don't think. I think what we
got yesterday is what they want. They want people to
believe that teams that are lower seeds have a chance
to win.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
Oh I don't believe. No, No, Rob, Listen, I want to
hear this because I.
Speaker 5 (04:43):
Think that they're not happy that Ohio State is No,
it's not about yes, I understand Ohio State as the
brand being out. That's a problem, I hear you. But
they also want to give the guys and the young
men that are the double digit seeds belief that they
can win. Right Like a lot of people think when
the teams get in and and they're low, they may
not be as celebrated as in Ohio State or whatever
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we're talking about Miami they are. So I'm not saying them,
but in general, you want people to believe that that
team has a chance to win. So I think it's
good from that perspective. Now, as far as the brand
in college football and you know, having a repeat champion
for the first time in a long time or whatever like,
that's another storyline. But I don't think it hurts the support.
I think it actually helps them.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
See I'm gonna I'm gonna disagree, and I'll go to
I'll go to college basketball.
Speaker 4 (05:30):
Okay, Yes, we want to Cinderellers. Okay, okay, we want
we want to send no, no, no, no, no no.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
But I'm just saying in general, with the brands, the
big brands getting knocked out, yes, okay, we want all Cinderellers.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
Great people love Cinderella in the first round.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
Sure, Okay, yes, a couple of years ago, and I
don't remember the exact year. Three of the four in
the final four were like Cinderellers.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
The lowest rate in people. The blue bloods were Florida Atlantic. Yes, yeah,
and all.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
The blue bloods weren't involved or whatever, and the ratings
were horrible and people didn't watch sure, so there is
a degree of that. So I don't think that if
Ohio State is your top brand and your top school
defending champ, you want them to go out in the
first round of this.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
This is not I don't think what they really wanted.
Speaker 5 (06:25):
Well, I think the problem with that or the solution
to that would just be the way they're seeding it.
Miami is not a twelve seed or ten, you know,
like they shouldn't be right. Teams that won their conferences
got the go ahead before they did, so I think
when you talk about the problems of what that playoff
looks like, it's not about my tense Miami beating the
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number two seed Ohio State.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
It's about the receding of it. Miami is not a
ten seed.
Speaker 5 (06:52):
They're a really good football team and had a couple
of slip ups during the regular season, which dropped them
to the spot you're talking about.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
Right, but the slip ups or that's why you play
the regular season, right, so that so that you ensure
that the team the best teams you want the best
teams involved.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
Don't don't get me wrong.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
And I'm not saying, uh, Cinderella stories or a team
coming out of nowhere. That's great every once in a while,
and and I just think for Ohio State. And then
again we can start talking about the college football and
what matters having a cupcake schedule playing people, and then
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you get into this tournament and now you're playing.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
All good schools.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
So that's another thing, dude, that we hear at USC,
the dummy and down of the schedule so that we
could pile up wins get into the tournament, right, and
then and then what happens when you play the big dogs.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
You're gonna get You're gonna get a rood awakening.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
That kind of people kind of like questioned the Ohio
State schedule right a little bit, like like who did
they really play? And and then it came to Roosts
in Miami and they really they dominated that game like
from the start and even at one point just watching
I just felt like Ohio State's QB was shook.
Speaker 4 (08:10):
He was throwing hospital passes.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
Am I right, like like just flinging, like guys open
it front him throw the ball up for this guy
to get crushed by defensive players. There was another player
I remember where he was open like in the flat
and just threw it out of bat like like he
just had become.
Speaker 5 (08:30):
He could have just ran and got a first down.
It was third and two. They were trying to third
and two. They were driving down to try to at
least get points before the half, get a field goal,
and just like his internal clocks messed up. He didn't
know how much times on the clock he could have
ran got the first down. In college, the clock stopped,
so they would have been fine, but he was rattled.
That passed rust from rubyen Bain and those guys from
Miami was just relentless all night, so.
Speaker 4 (08:54):
They were It's a huge upset.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
I mean, and I talk about this only from the
standpoint of while you have respect for Miami, of course
we're talking about Vegas. Doesn't give you nine and a
half points, do you know what I mean? That's a
major Yeah, No, that's a major upset. It is where
people thought Ohio State is going to waltz into a
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back to back situation. People at Michigan were probably had
their panties in a bunch. Oh my god, it's bad
enough that Ohio State won last year. Now they're gonna,
you know what I mean, roll off a couple of
wins here, and the way college football has evolved, I
think it was kind of shocking.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
I mean, I'm just talking about from that standpoint.
Speaker 5 (09:35):
From that standpoint, yes, they started out, I think rob
I think they were double digits favorites going into that game,
but around game time, if you looked at it, that
line had dropped to just a touchdown, they had dropped
down to like six and a half seven. So the
consensus I think once you really settled into what Miami.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
Has and what Ohio State has, and then.
Speaker 5 (09:57):
Actually the factors of that game both come into that
game with top notch defenses.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
Right Ohio State. You just said it, though, who did
they play?
Speaker 6 (10:05):
No?
Speaker 4 (10:06):
And so to get tested that's the knock on it.
Speaker 5 (10:08):
So to get tested in the real way against a
team that had something to prove. I mean this, for me,
it was the recipe for a win by Miami but
but for.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
College football and the way that these top teams have
been getting knocked out, is that really what do they
have to relook at the way they set up the
playoff format because I don't know if that's really how
you want the playoff to go. And I'm not saying
you're trying to rig it or fix it so that
the better teams or better brands you know, can kind
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of move forward.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
But we've seen this now for a couple of years.
Speaker 5 (10:42):
Well, they've done everything they could rob to make sure
the teams they wanted to get in it.
Speaker 4 (10:47):
Let's that's not let's no, no, no, let's not. Trust me.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
I already know how to operate, and this is it's
a business like. It's like you can sit there and
you can talk about anything you want. It's just like
the deal that they have with Notre Dame. Yes that
they all have to be the top the top twelve
and they're going to get into the college football playoffs, Yes, regardless,
no matter.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
What if they're in the top twelve.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
And they were able to broker that deal because they
have leverage, they have the NBC deal, They have it
on money.
Speaker 4 (11:15):
No one's forced them.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
You could easily if you really wanted to punish Notre Dame, right,
you could. They got too big of a fan base,
They got too much money behind them that you can't
ignore them. They went in with that leverage to be
able to tell the college football this is their deal.
Speaker 4 (11:31):
You won't take it or not? You know what I mean, Like, yeah, no,
it's it's insane, like we know what they want.
Speaker 5 (11:37):
It's about money, it's about TV, it's about the ratings,
it's about all of that.
Speaker 4 (11:41):
But I think so it's Indiana. The chance is Indiana.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
Now do you look at Indiana has the pathway to
be the national champions? Is that gonna happen? Or could
they be upset?
Speaker 5 (11:50):
Oh, they can be upset. Today they play Alabama. Obviously
Alabama's not Nick Saban Alabama. Right, They're Alabama. They can
win the game. And we just where are you from?
Speaker 4 (12:00):
I'm from Alabama.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
I just want to check you on that. That's all
I'm always you know me, I'm gonna always full of
curtain back. I'm not mad at you for being from.
Speaker 4 (12:08):
Alabama, but I always kid roll time.
Speaker 5 (12:12):
I know I'm just saying, But what I'm saying is
you picked him every year are you.
Speaker 4 (12:16):
I don't. I'm not a fan, now are you?
Speaker 6 (12:18):
Are you?
Speaker 4 (12:18):
Kelvin Washington picked everything Detroit every time? Absolutely, Okay, I
actually picked.
Speaker 5 (12:23):
I'm actually picked against him in big games just to
mess with my family, because what do you mean exactly?
Speaker 4 (12:29):
Don't you know this is your birthday? What are you
doing exactly? No, they have a chance to win.
Speaker 5 (12:32):
I'm not saying they are, and I think Indiana well,
I mean they have a really good chance to win.
Speaker 4 (12:37):
Today.
Speaker 5 (12:37):
We just talked about though, teams that have to double
bio what one five rob right, and so.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
We're gonna see like taking all that time, but would
you change that?
Speaker 3 (12:46):
Like seriously now now you've got a big enough sample size,
it's not okay last year, Okay, just a freak.
Speaker 4 (12:52):
Of fluke or whatever.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
House State goods knocked out looks rusty from the Star
and I'm gonna get Miami played well.
Speaker 4 (12:59):
I'm not try to pooh poo them, But Ohio.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
State didn't seem like they start it slow, right slow,
really really slow.
Speaker 5 (13:07):
Yeah, you cannot dip your toe in the water when
it comes to playoff football, playoff anything.
Speaker 4 (13:12):
You got to come ready to go. And they weren't
ready to go to start.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
Yeah, that's what I always think about college football, just
the layoff between the end of the regular season and
then right and they know we got to wait until
the playoffs, I mean until the holidays to put those
games on, and then there's like a month, like twenty
five days, a long time.
Speaker 5 (13:30):
And we don't like it. We're practicing without a game.
So think about that process. So even just from the
player standpoint, you get tired of going against each other, right,
And we've seen that even in training camp.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
That's why training camp is hard.
Speaker 5 (13:41):
It's not because you're doing all these raps and you're
out in the like, No, you're practicing every day with
not a there's a goal, but not a goal that's
right in front.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
Of your face that you can see.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
That's what I always thought. This is just me why
football wouldn't be fun. And I'm just is that you
pract more than you play.
Speaker 6 (14:01):
You do.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
Like for me, as a baseball guy who played baseball,
you play all that you play all the am I right,
Like there's such a difference, Like I'm just practice practice
and then you just get that one game, you know
what I mean?
Speaker 4 (14:15):
And I get it.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
It's a Crescenjosne. You know, right, build up. Uh, but
baseball is like you don't have time to worry about
I was oh for four yesterday, I got another game today,
another game.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
You oh for four, and then you two before the
next game.
Speaker 5 (14:32):
In football, you get one opportunity at the end of
the week, and if you screw that up, you got
a whole other week to.
Speaker 4 (14:38):
Think about it.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
Yeah, it is something and it sent shock waves, no
doubt through college football. Was Miami's upset last night a
bad thing for college football? Kerry says, no, I say yes,
it is bad. I don't care what you say. Eight
seven seven for eight four thirty four thirty seven.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
That's eight seven seven for the Herd. I need more team.
My god, I'm really really struggling. All right, we'll continue
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Speaker 3 (15:16):
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some NFL stuff with Courk Kerry played in the NFL
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with the Jets and the Arizona Cardinals.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
What other team that I miss?
Speaker 6 (16:38):
So that was it?
Speaker 4 (16:38):
That was it.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
That's what I thought, just the two teams. So we'll
do that and much more. We are taking phone calls
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Our number is eight seven seven forty four thirty four
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Speaker 4 (16:58):
Oh we lost them? What happened? David? And Memphis Callback?
Sorry about that. We're just gonna go to David. Rob,
do you hit the button where we just lost him?
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (17:07):
He just didn't do anything? All right? Uh? Rob g
We also can you jump on?
Speaker 3 (17:14):
We also talked about Lanning who had some statements about
college football and the NFL.
Speaker 4 (17:27):
Okay, what happened? What's going on with that? We got Rob? Rob?
Speaker 6 (17:32):
You on?
Speaker 4 (17:34):
Okay, his button is not working. We're going, Okay, there
we go. What's happy New Year?
Speaker 6 (17:39):
Rob?
Speaker 8 (17:39):
When you're working out of the attic here Sports Radio.
Speaker 4 (17:43):
Yes, it's a little different for us. We're not in
our usual studios.
Speaker 8 (17:46):
We're used to the high end everything HD, large televisions
and now I got a speakers that don't work, a
button that doesn't light up, and you spoiled man.
Speaker 4 (17:58):
Plumbing it right now. But yeah, we're back in the
wood paneling back here.
Speaker 8 (18:02):
One game with you and I, of course, is the
Oregon Texas Tech Bowl Game quarterfinals for the playoffs and
leading up to the game, a lot of the conversation
was not so much on the game itself, which obviously
is a huge game. It was more so on Dan
Lanning's comments about the state of college football, the calendar,
and more specifically how the NFL has infringed upon our freedom.
Speaker 9 (18:25):
Thinking this, I've got a ton of respect for the NFL,
but we're a prep league for the NFL. We do
a lot of favors for the NFL. Right, We're the
minor league in a lot of ways, but there's no
money paid from the NFL to take care of college football, right,
And in that sense, we've given up some of our
days right to the NFL.
Speaker 4 (18:41):
We said, oh, this is you guys get to have
this day.
Speaker 9 (18:43):
You get to have this day.
Speaker 4 (18:44):
You get to have this day.
Speaker 9 (18:45):
Saturdays should be sacred for college football, right and every
Saturday through the month of December should belong to Saturday,
you know, to college football in my opinion.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
And so Carrie reacted like, what is he saying?
Speaker 3 (18:57):
But I'm with Dan Lanning, d Yes, because the NFL
they're bullies and carry. I know you're an NFL ven
and all that, and I respect you know, being able
to make it to the league, but they have infringed
on Saturdays with college football. How they've got there's a law,
Rob g we talked about the law to television agreement
(19:19):
that said you can't rob g what was that broadcast
law that said high school football on Friday, college football
on Saturday, and the NFL on Sunday, so that they
would in the NFL, couldn't you.
Speaker 4 (19:37):
Know, overshadow and overshadow.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
Like high school football on local level and college football
or whatever.
Speaker 4 (19:45):
And how they've gotten way away with.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
It is because they on Saturday, they do the streaming,
and they did Friday Black Friday games on streaming, not
on broadcast television.
Speaker 4 (19:55):
And his only point is, and you and.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
You people look at the NBA. They took over Christmas
from the NBA. So this is the NBA. I get it.
They're the big guy in the room. They're the bully.
But I do understand. And and if you're going to
be Dan Lanning and the college football then you have
to make it clear to the NFL, like hey, let
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us have Saturday.
Speaker 4 (20:21):
Like like, let us have Saturday because what was what
was the game?
Speaker 3 (20:25):
There was a game against the NFL, like right two
Saturdays ago or whatever, like you know, a college football
game or what was that? I don't know, like that
you know they're playing on the same day. But you
have to wage a real war. And what I mean
by that if you're college football is if you guys
don't want to work with us, we might have to
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cut off the access that we give you to our athletes,
to our intel. You know what I mean, because they
have a free minor league system and he talked about it,
rob cutting off the access to the university or to
the players isn't going to help anybody though. No, but
I'm just saying I get for the players. But remember
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everybody doesn't make it to the NFL. So it's a handful.
Speaker 4 (21:10):
I mean, it sounds good the two or.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
Three guys, there's a whole other group of guys. And
all I'm saying is you gotta have some sort of
working relationship. We foot the bill for a lot. When
I say we college football. The Dodgers have ten minor
league teams that they have to pay coaches, fields, that
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comes out of their money.
Speaker 4 (21:35):
NFL doesn't have any of that.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
They don't have to They just do their business and
they got this free feeder system that they don't have
to do anything. And that's all I'm saying is like
the last thing we want, we're not even asking for money.
Can we have Saturdays? High school football Fridays? College football Saturdays?
Speaker 4 (21:53):
And then NFL what you've.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
Already seen between Monday Thursday night and now they got
the Black Friday game, they play games on Saturday.
Speaker 4 (22:08):
Yeah, that's all. I don't think he's what he's saying
is ridiculous.
Speaker 5 (22:11):
Yeah, but I would say just check check the temperature
of the room as well. All right, you're the stuff
you're saying is one hundred percent right, And I can
understand him saying that from that perspective. But then you
look at college football and what days of college football
play on? Is it just solely Saturday? Well not, But
I'm just saying, like, so like they've taken steps to,
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you know, find extra days to play on and have
moments to stand alone. On Fridays, they have Friday night game,
so they have they've started to spread their wise. And
so if they're saying the NFL does that, the high
school can say they're a farm league for college and
they're taking their day so like everybody has.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
But the difference is those high school games on our
national TeleMe.
Speaker 4 (22:54):
Well, but the majority and they know.
Speaker 3 (22:59):
Because they see the ratings being heard in college football
college football ratings are down.
Speaker 4 (23:04):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (23:04):
Despite these teams and and all the money that's involved
and all that other stuff, it ain't as easy as
it has been. Rob G do we have this call
here or is that the no? No no, I just oh
it dropped it. So we got we got problems here
on the phone. It's all good. I just thought that
(23:25):
was the same guy I was trying to get in
here on the odd couple. Yeah so, but but the
only way talking about it ain't gonna get nothing done.
Speaker 4 (23:31):
It's all I'm saying, is it.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
It had to be a real, a real like all
out war in order to get them to understand like
how important this is. And I'm just saying, you have
to market material your your territory. The NBA just rolled
over they did, you know, and now they find themselves
where Christmas Day and and the NBA rolled out, uh
(23:55):
these ratings for those games, and the NFL just said,
well look at our ratings.
Speaker 4 (23:59):
They to triple what you guys for games that didn't
even matter.
Speaker 5 (24:03):
But I think it comes to this, Rob, like what's
the real contingency plan?
Speaker 6 (24:08):
Right?
Speaker 5 (24:08):
Like we can have these guys, people can say certain
things out loud and can be one off since then
on your own. But like somebody like a Dan Lannon
who's been a really great coach, uh and coach is
one of the best teams in college football in Oregon,
Like why not have this conversation with the powers to
be in college and not the fans.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
That doesn't matter, right, there's no doubt that that that's
a conversation that you have to have.
Speaker 4 (24:33):
But but we.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
Are where we are, And what I mean is everything
is public, all these press conferences, all that stuff.
Speaker 4 (24:40):
It wasn't always like that. You know where you heard
all these things. So it wasn't like he was standing
on top of the Empire State Builder yelling you know
what I mean.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
He's in a press conference, they ask him about something
and then boom, guys get on their soapbox a little bit.
And that's usually where that kind of stuff come from.
But it is interesting just as the NFL continues to
just monopolize it. And I've said it all the time,
the NFL people don't remember it when they when they
(25:12):
came off of CBS. CBS didn't want to pay the
rights fees, and the NFL people don't remember when the
NFL was taken off of network television Monday Night Football.
People don't because the ratings weren't good Monday Night Football.
That's why they came off of ABC. People because Monday
Night Raw had better ratings than Monday Night Football.
Speaker 4 (25:35):
Did you know that? I didn't know that.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
People what year Tagler Boo was the commissioner, so you
got to go back to that. I don't know the
exact year. And supposedly he went to Vince McMahon and
tried to get them to move Monday Night Raw because
they were affecting. People were And then this thing called,
uh the.
Speaker 4 (26:00):
What's the football?
Speaker 3 (26:02):
Fantasy football came along and changed every That changed everything
because I used to be if you were a fan
of a particular team, like your team, the Jets.
Speaker 4 (26:11):
I grew up and I was a Jets fan.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
Fantasy football made me care about games that that had
nothing to do with my team because I had a
player on the Jacksonville Jaguars. So now I'm watching and
I'm interested in that game, where before I was never
interested in any And that's how you take something from
regional to a national interest.
Speaker 4 (26:32):
And then you add the element of gambling.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
On top of it and that's but but those were
the two things fantasy football people winning money and being
and caring about games. A meaningless Jacksonville game against the Panthers,
all of a sudden people are watching on a Monday night.
Speaker 5 (26:48):
Because they right, they don't care who wins or lose it.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
So so it was of that ilk it was. It
was amazing, and so that has what happened.
Speaker 4 (27:00):
Right now. Let's welcome in Yogi Roth from the Big.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
Ten Network of course analysts and the host of the
Why Option podcast and Yogi Happy New Year. Say hello
to Kerry Rhoades here on the Herd. What's happening, Lot's happening?
Speaker 6 (27:16):
Happy here to YouTube as well, Thanks for having me on.
A big fan of all the work that y'all do.
And it is a is a beautiful morning. I'll be
at a little rainy. We just finished our pregame show
as you reference on the Big ten Network out here
at the Roosevelt and just kind of getting going here
with the organ game. So it's gonna be a fun
New Year's day.
Speaker 4 (27:32):
Yogi, how many Why options can you still run? Right now?
You still can run a couple of those, you know.
Speaker 6 (27:37):
I can. I'll get past the sticks and I'll get down.
That's all I got.
Speaker 4 (27:43):
But I'm in all right, Yogi.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
Let's go to last night's game, and you know, Miami dominated.
It should have been probably leading by three scores in
the first half.
Speaker 4 (27:52):
They're up by two. They dominated that game.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
And here's Ohio State hadn't played in twenty five days,
the number one seed. All that out the window, and
we look at it and now teams with the buys
are now zero to five in this new format. Is
this a problem in college football or not?
Speaker 6 (28:09):
Yeah, that's a cool question. I still don't think we
have all the data. I mean, talk to me at
the end of the night. You know, maybe it's a
different answer. I think that we do have in college football.
Number one. I think we got to give Miami a
ton of credit.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
Yeah, no doubt, no doubt. They dominated. They earned that win.
I'm not even trying to pooh pool.
Speaker 6 (28:26):
Yeah, no, I know that, and you've always been that way.
I think what stood out to me in that game
for Ohio State first was their last two games, they've
had moments. Their margin for error has just the surprising
part is has been so small. Right Indiana, they had
two or three runs that almost broke. They would have
won the game if they make one of those plays.
They don't throw that pick six. Who knows what happens
(28:49):
in the second half. But I'm with you, that was
surprising for me. I thought Ohio State would go and
have a chance to repeat. They don't. To your point
on the layoff we just got done talking about Indiana
is now twenty six days. Texas Tech they're down early
twenty six days, and I think it speaks more to
the calendar of we should be playing that's the title
game right now. Like you know, I started thinking about
(29:11):
the last night. The NFL, like the top seeds still
get buys, but they're only off for a week. You
know that they're not off for three almost a month,
So I think that they're going to look at this.
I think the calendar is getting just too much momentum
from coaches. I mean, look at the game you're watching
now in Oregon. Kosh Lupoy, will Stein just get their
dream jobs to be head coaches, and they're coordinating a
(29:31):
team and all their focuses there Brian Hartlin last night
for Ohio State. You can put your focus there, but
you also have to put it elsewhere. And I just
think it doesn't make a lot of sense. And what's
going to happen if we play this thing out of
my eyes in five years is college football just doesn't
become entertaining anymore outside of the games, and the NFL
is entertaining outside of the games. We love free agency,
(29:52):
we love the drafts, we love the portal. If you will,
I think College foot buck can learn a thing or
two from that, and I hope they do make those
necessary changes.
Speaker 5 (30:00):
Yeah, yo, Yeah, that's a great point. I mean we
kind of glossed over the Brian the heartline not being
able to call plays last night because of his new
job affiliation, and you know, they going back to play
call And do you think that had any effect on
the slow start or do you just attribute it to
the twenty five days off?
Speaker 6 (30:19):
I think it all contributes to it. I meanink, Brian
Day is so accomplished as a play caller, it's hard
to criticize him based on just his pedigree and what
he's always done. But it's been two years. I think
it's a fair thing to bring up when you add
in the twenty five days off, the injuries on the
offensive line they deal withate a different starting offensive line
group and then they have to change excuse me again
at the half due to an injury. So I mean
(30:41):
you combine all those things plus Miami's strength is their
front set of Yes, yes, I mean them in Indiana
and Oregon. I mean you kind of to talk a
lot of the CFP teams, but it's an explosive, violent group.
I mean that is their strength defensively, and two weeks
in or two games in a row, rather iow State
exposed up front and that was the thing that I
(31:02):
was most looking forward to in the game, because you
guys know this, when a coach finds a flaw within themselves,
like Ohio State. Did they give up five sacks against Indiana?
I think they had six all season heading into the
Big Ten title game, and they gave up a bunch
more again last night. I thought they would have found
ways to shore that up. They tried to with tempo
and getting the ball out, but ultimately it just wasn't enough.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
How about Miami, where are they now? Can they really
upset the Apple CARDA?
Speaker 4 (31:27):
Was this a one off?
Speaker 6 (31:29):
I'll tell you what. My favorite graphic thus far in
the CFP that we saw on TV last night was
since that game in two thousand and two, two thousand
and three, the national title game between those two teams.
I think Miami's only had four to ten win seasons
and Ohio State had something like eighteen. Wow, And that
I wrote it down somewhere that's clearly not in front
of me now, I apologize, but it was crazy to
(31:51):
see that. And you know, I've known coach Chris the
ball as you guys have for a long time, and
I think there is something that's cliche but accurating college
for all, when the U is back, when the Trojans
are rolling, like, there is something to the to the
blue blood's being really blue because it's so easy to
take shots at him when they're down.
Speaker 8 (32:10):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (32:11):
It's also amazing to watch Indiana and Texas Tech have
this crazy elevation that they've never seen in their historic
programs respectively. But overall, yeah, I think it's real watching
Mario rebuild Oregon within the trenches and then pass it
off to Dan Lanning who's taking it to another level.
And then when he left to take over his alma mater,
a just a program that we all remember. I have
(32:33):
no idea what Miami was like back in the day.
Either I remember playing against Otro Role and Sean Taylor
and Jonathan Vilma like that, what Ken Dorsey, We played
those Jeremy Shockey. It was awesome that back in the
old Big East. So yeah, I think I think they're
real and we'll see how this thing shakes out. But
can you imagine Oregon Miami, Like how much song would
(32:55):
that be with Mario Christoball and Dan Lanning just for
the drama college football in the national title game?
Speaker 4 (32:59):
It would be.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
Our guest is Yogi Rath from the Big Ten Network,
of course, an analyst and host of the y Option podcast,
joining us here on the herd. Rob Parker carry Rhades
in for Colin on this New Year's Day.
Speaker 5 (33:12):
Yogi with me, you cover the Big ten a lot,
and obviously when we look at the Big ten in football,
I mean we think about Ohio State, Michigan. Obviously, Indiana's
kind of jumped in in that party in that mix.
Speaker 4 (33:24):
I'm running against Indiana. We're gonna talk about that coming up.
They're not the little engine that couldn't They're not.
Speaker 5 (33:30):
No, no, no, but any other joint the party with
those two. But we always talk about the Big ten
and the SEC being the pillars of college football, and
I just I think we put too much credence in that,
and I think individually some of these teams deserve a
little bit more credit, Like do you really think that
the Big Ten in the SEC is heading shoulders above it?
When we talk about the full body of work of
these of these conferences, heading.
Speaker 6 (33:53):
Shoulders I think is aggressive. And from the lens of
PAC twelve, I know what it was like to be
the only, you know, one of the very few people
you're kind of fighting for a league. Try to talk
about the strength. And when I look at the Big Twelve,
I see the old PAC twelve of a bunch of
really good teams that you know, beat each other in
one score, high scoring games. Exactly when I look at
the ACC, I'm a pit alum. You know, it's still
(34:16):
weird for me to think a PIT in the ACC.
And it's been almost damn here twenty years for them
being in that league. I think, here's the truth that
I've learned in the last two seasons calling all Big
Ten games and really even betting myself within that league.
And I say the same for the SEC to go
in NI conference games, for the Big Ten SEC thankfully
(34:37):
think the Lord will go there next year and get
out of that week week eleven game that majority of
them have. It's brutal, it's just hard. I mean Minnesota
is as a tough out sc a tough out Washington,
a toughout like that. That's the challenge. I think as
the years go on. And if you asked me last
year your biggest takeaway of the Big Ten, I would
(34:57):
have said, Man, I didn't think the quarterback play was
as good as I wanted it to be. Yeah, this
season it's been the best in the history of the
Big Ten. And I've checked that with Jery DeNardo, who's
been a Big Ten Network analyst for nearly twenty years,
and he co sign on that. And you look up
and down the league, look at whether it's Demon Williams
or Dante more may Ava, Dylan Ryola at the time
(35:18):
when he was at Nebraska. Look at Mark Ronowski what
he just did against Tennessee at Iowa like you start
looking at it. Drake Lindsay at Minnesota will not get
a lot of play, but he'll be drafted in two years.
He's needs a big time pocket passer. So I start
looking at that, and then when I talk to guys
in the portal, Fernando Mendoza being one of them, they
want to come play in this league, in the Big
Ten or the SEC. So it's becoming the power too.
(35:40):
And I'll finish with this. What is surprising most in
my sidebar conversations with coaches and athletic departments is there's
a desire to get as they've called to the power too,
and I never thought i'd hear that. But whether that's resources,
whether that's exposure, whether that's media, whatever it is. But
to me the Big Ten is that they different and
(36:01):
it will surprise you. And then I get the last
part was the fan bases like the care factors through
the roof. I mean, it's crazy, man. I'm calling Rutgers
Perdue winless Big Ten teams in late September and it's
sold out. Wow, West Lafayette like that. That is a
really cool element. So I do think the diversity of players, scheme,
the quarterbacks and now finding their way coaches want to
coach in this league. The money resources have a part
(36:24):
to do with that. And then the tradition of course
carries it so head and shoulders no, but are they
separating I think, so I feel that being embedded in it,
all right.
Speaker 3 (36:34):
And Yogi, I would be remiss when I'll asking you
who you're named after?
Speaker 6 (36:40):
Oh, thanks for asking me. Yeah, often people think it's
Yogi Bear.
Speaker 3 (36:45):
Well there's only two Yogi's Yogi Bear and Yogi bearra.
Speaker 4 (36:49):
Right, there's only two.
Speaker 6 (36:50):
Well, well I'll ad a thirteen. So my family, my
parents studied Eastern philosophies forever. So every kid got a
Hindu name as their as one of their either first
or middle name, and then the other one was Hebrew
because my mom was born and raised in the Middle East,
in Israel. So Yogi is like if you practice yoga,
all right, if you're trying to bring some union to
(37:11):
the world in this chaotic word raw argue. Yes, right,
you go to yoga class, you get centered. They decided
to give me that name and tried to shake it
early on because the near a kid in an athlete. Right,
But I'm really proud of it now and hopefully I
can do that and you know every part of my life.
Speaker 4 (37:27):
Well, thank your parents for me. Yes, well, that's awesome.
Speaker 3 (37:30):
And I always when I hear names that you know,
you don't hear that often I always want to ask,
you know what I mean, where they came from.
Speaker 4 (37:37):
But Yogi roth Man, we appreciate you. Thanks for joining
us here on the Herd. Thank you, Yogi.
Speaker 6 (37:41):
Heck you Happy New Year. Enjoy and keep killing it.
It's enjoy watching you guys.
Speaker 4 (37:45):
Thank you, buddy.
Speaker 3 (37:46):
All Right, Dan Campbell really put his foot in his
mouth this week, Yes he did.
Speaker 4 (37:51):
We'll get into that next. It is a herd. You
heard that.
Speaker 3 (37:56):
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Speaker 4 (38:59):
At think my voice carries all right.
Speaker 3 (39:02):
I've been drinking hot tea trying to get myself together
on this New Year's Day.
Speaker 4 (39:07):
It will be a double dep dip for yours, truly.
Speaker 3 (39:09):
I'll be on the Odd Couple tonight starting at seven
pm Eastern right here on Fox Sports Radio. Martin Wiss
and I will have some fun putting in that work,
that's right. But you're the official Odd Couple side pechs,
just not today you're doing this show, Rob G.
Speaker 4 (39:30):
One of my favorite coaches, Dan Gamble, I mean Dan
Campbell from the Detroit Lions from me.
Speaker 3 (39:38):
He was waxing poetically about his quarterback, Jared Golf.
Speaker 8 (39:41):
Yeah, Jared Goff, you mentioned in the commercial break, had
one of the worst closing to a season as possible
last year against the Commanders in the playoffs. Had four turnovers.
This year in a must win God have a game
against the Minnesota Vikings has five.
Speaker 3 (39:54):
So you know what that means, right, Rob G and
Carry what means he had more turnovers.
Speaker 4 (39:58):
Than a baker than a baker.
Speaker 8 (40:00):
Yes, And so afterwards, Rob Parker came out Fox Sports.
Speaker 4 (40:04):
Radio said you got to get rid of Jared Golf.
Speaker 8 (40:06):
And I think that they heard that in Detroit because
Dan Campbell was asked about and he said, quote, Jared's
an absolute stud.
Speaker 4 (40:13):
He's a pro. He's going nowhere. You're right, he's not
going to the Super Bowl. Neither are the Lions. And
Jared Golf don't know. Here we go. He puts up numbers.
I get it.
Speaker 3 (40:25):
Yeah, Carrie, they didn't like there's different levels to everything.
It's great to win regular season games. The Lions, with
the young nucleus and the players that they've signed and
where they were, the idea is to get to the
super Bowl, right, So let's not let's stop acting like
(40:46):
just winning nine games is great and we're all happy,
schmappy and all that is Detroit though. Okay, but three
years ago they won the NFC Championship Game, blowing out
the forty nine ers in San Francisco in the first half.
Speaker 4 (41:00):
Yeah, okay, yeah, that was a fail. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (41:04):
Then they get the top seed in the NFC home
field throughout the playoffs, fifteen and two franchise record. Whatever
rookie quarterback Jane Daniels shows up and as much as
he played well, the reason they lost was Jered Goar.
They were nine and a half point favorites because people
say all the defense was banged up. No, no, no,
(41:26):
Vegas gave you nine and it was nine and a
half even with the defense.
Speaker 4 (41:30):
Those hurt. Those players were already hurt before that game.
Speaker 3 (41:33):
They knew the Lions could outscore the Commanders, right, that's
why nine and a half points. Yeah, Jered Goss has
the four turnover there, just a terrible gameame. Here we
go to this year. They need to stay alive. They
need to win both games their last two games. Playing
Minnesota with the third string quarterback who had net three
(41:56):
net yards for the game. He threw for fifty one
yards forty one yards and sacks. Right, yeah, lost yards
he had three that was plus he had three passing
yards total. And Jared Goff has five turnovers in that game. Yeah,
he's a common denominator. I'm convinced you can't get there.
(42:19):
I just I've seen enough of Jared Goff, good quarterback.
I don't think you could get there. That's why the
Rams gave.
Speaker 4 (42:24):
Up on them.
Speaker 5 (42:24):
Yeah, I understand why the Rams gave up on them,
But for the Lions and what he's brought to that team,
he is their guy. There's no guy who're gonna bing
in that's gonna better than him right now. And yes,
all that stuff you said is true. Those years were failures,
but you're not getting anybody better than Jared Goff right now.
Speaker 3 (42:39):
All right, our number two of the herd is coming up,
and you know what you want to do?
Speaker 4 (42:45):
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Speaker 3 (00:32):
Yo, Happy New Year, My goodness, gracious it is to
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New Year at everybody. Rob Parker from the Odd Couple.
You hear us seven to ten eastern Monday through Friday
here on Fox Sports Radio. Let me bring in, of course,
(00:53):
the former All pro safety carry Roads.
Speaker 4 (00:57):
Yes, what's up, my man?
Speaker 5 (00:59):
They did a better job already, Carrie Rhodes and not
Carrie Washington.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
I was a little shook the other night, but we
were doing the show. You know, I know who you are. Yeah,
and uh yes, the big show the next three hours
on the Herd here. I got a lot of stuff
to get involved in. We also want to hear from you.
It's a New Year's Day, a lot going on. We
will throw out Rob G. Rob G is our producer.
(01:23):
He of course produces the Odd Couple USC. Chris is
engineer today, so we got the crew working on a
holiday and uh, Rob G and Chris, what's happening?
Speaker 4 (01:34):
Happy New Year to you guys. Happy New Year. It
is wonderful to be in the Year of Horse. Is
that horse?
Speaker 6 (01:42):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (01:43):
The horse?
Speaker 5 (01:44):
So mister ed has made a comeback? Is that what
we're he next? He's gonna come in later in the year.
He's not coming right.
Speaker 7 (01:52):
Don't spoil our hour three special guests. Okay, all right,
I just wanted to make sure, all right, Uh Carrie.
Obviously college football.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
Playoff the big game last night, yep, Ohio State Miami.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
Yeah, what you got? How shocked were you? I was
not shocked at all. Rob.
Speaker 5 (02:13):
I actually told my host on Sundays nine from two
to five pm Pacific Standard time, Dan Byer. He's an
Ohio State fan, obviously, and I told him to watch
out for this game. I thought Miami had enough defense,
enough pass rush to affect Ohio State. And I mean
they have something to prove, right, They were one of
the last teams, and I think they were the last
(02:34):
that large bid team and possibly and you know they've
been they were at one point.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
In the year considered the best team in football. So
you know, you have a bump.
Speaker 5 (02:42):
You lose a game here in the regular season and
you think that team can't win. That team was more
than capable of winning, and they showed that last night.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
But is that what we have or is this what college.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
Football has made happen, which is putting all these teams
in teams taking bys. I mean, let's just be honest,
and I'm not making any excuses because Miami dominates. Okay,
they the first half, Uh Ohio State was lucky to
be down fourteen to nothing.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
Am I right? They fumbled in the red zone early.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
I think their first possession, they should have been up
by three or four.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
Score three scores at least easy.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
Okay, and when Miami scored in the second half, the
game right away becomes a ballgame, right, fourteen seven?
Speaker 4 (03:26):
Whatever? But I'm my point is.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
This is.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
Teams that get buys in the first round. They haven't
won six new format. I haven't won the game yet.
Excuse me. I'm not used to being up so early
this morning. I got my hot team. We'll get it together.
But oh to five, yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
And five, Ohio State hadn't played football carry you're the
former football player. Yep, in twenty five days. Yes, you
can't tell me that doesn't affect you. And I'm not
making excuses because last year Ohio State was the number
eight seed and they blew out the number one seed,
blew them out by right twenty someth important twenty points.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
Yes, tell me like playing.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
We saw this in baseball a couple of years ago too,
when they gave the number one seeds in baseball off.
They all lost, Atlanta loss, the Dodgers lock, everybody lost,
and they said, well, you used to playing, and now
you're getting a break and the other team is continuing
to play. What do you make of what has happened
here for college football? I mean that Ohio State is out. Yeah,
(04:30):
I mean the fact that Ohio State is out. I
don't think that's I don't think. I think what we
got yesterday is what they want. They want people to
believe that teams that are lower seeds have a chance
to win.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
Oh I don't believe. No, No, Rob, Listen, I want to
hear this because I.
Speaker 5 (04:43):
Think that they're not happy that Ohio State is No,
it's not about yes, I understand Ohio State as the
brand being out. That's a problem, I hear you. But
they also want to give the guys and the young
men that are the double digit seeds belief that they
can win. Right Like a lot of people think when
the teams get in and and they're low, they may
not be as celebrated as in Ohio State or whatever
(05:04):
we're talking about Miami they are. So I'm not saying them,
but in general, you want people to believe that that
team has a chance to win. So I think it's
good from that perspective. Now, as far as the brand
in college football and you know, having a repeat champion
for the first time in a long time or whatever like,
that's another storyline. But I don't think it hurts the support.
I think it actually helps them.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
See I'm gonna I'm gonna disagree, and I'll go to
I'll go to college basketball.
Speaker 4 (05:30):
Okay, Yes, we want to Cinderellers. Okay, okay, we want
we want to send no, no, no, no, no no.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
But I'm just saying in general, with the brands, the
big brands getting knocked out, yes, okay, we want all Cinderellers.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
Great people love Cinderella in the first round.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
Sure, Okay, yes, a couple of years ago, and I
don't remember the exact year. Three of the four in
the final four were like Cinderellers.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
The lowest rate in people. The blue bloods were Florida Atlantic. Yes, yeah,
and all.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
The blue bloods weren't involved or whatever, and the ratings
were horrible and people didn't watch sure, so there is
a degree of that. So I don't think that if
Ohio State is your top brand and your top school
defending champ, you want them to go out in the
first round of this.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
This is not I don't think what they really wanted.
Speaker 5 (06:25):
Well, I think the problem with that or the solution
to that would just be the way they're seeding it.
Miami is not a twelve seed or ten, you know,
like they shouldn't be right. Teams that won their conferences
got the go ahead before they did, so I think
when you talk about the problems of what that playoff
looks like, it's not about my tense Miami beating the
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number two seed Ohio State.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
It's about the receding of it. Miami is not a
ten seed.
Speaker 5 (06:52):
They're a really good football team and had a couple
of slip ups during the regular season, which dropped them
to the spot you're talking about.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
Right, but the slip ups or that's why you play
the regular season, right, so that so that you ensure
that the team the best teams you want the best
teams involved.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
Don't don't get me wrong.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
And I'm not saying, uh, Cinderella stories or a team
coming out of nowhere. That's great every once in a while,
and and I just think for Ohio State. And then
again we can start talking about the college football and
what matters having a cupcake schedule playing people, and then
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you get into this tournament and now you're playing.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
All good schools.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
So that's another thing, dude, that we hear at USC,
the dummy and down of the schedule so that we
could pile up wins get into the tournament, right, and
then and then what happens when you play the big dogs.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
You're gonna get You're gonna get a rood awakening.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
That kind of people kind of like questioned the Ohio
State schedule right a little bit, like like who did
they really play? And and then it came to Roosts
in Miami and they really they dominated that game like
from the start and even at one point just watching
I just felt like Ohio State's QB was shook.
Speaker 4 (08:10):
He was throwing hospital passes.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
Am I right, like like just flinging, like guys open
it front him throw the ball up for this guy
to get crushed by defensive players. There was another player
I remember where he was open like in the flat
and just threw it out of bat like like he
just had become.
Speaker 5 (08:30):
He could have just ran and got a first down.
It was third and two. They were trying to third
and two. They were driving down to try to at
least get points before the half, get a field goal,
and just like his internal clocks messed up. He didn't
know how much times on the clock he could have
ran got the first down. In college, the clock stopped,
so they would have been fine, but he was rattled.
That passed rust from rubyen Bain and those guys from
Miami was just relentless all night, so.
Speaker 4 (08:54):
They were It's a huge upset.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
I mean, and I talk about this only from the
standpoint of while you have respect for Miami, of course
we're talking about Vegas. Doesn't give you nine and a
half points, do you know what I mean? That's a
major Yeah, No, that's a major upset. It is where
people thought Ohio State is going to waltz into a
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back to back situation. People at Michigan were probably had
their panties in a bunch. Oh my god, it's bad
enough that Ohio State won last year. Now they're gonna,
you know what I mean, roll off a couple of
wins here, and the way college football has evolved, I
think it was kind of shocking.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
I mean, I'm just talking about from that standpoint.
Speaker 5 (09:35):
From that standpoint, yes, they started out, I think rob
I think they were double digits favorites going into that game,
but around game time, if you looked at it, that
line had dropped to just a touchdown, they had dropped
down to like six and a half seven. So the
consensus I think once you really settled into what Miami.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
Has and what Ohio State has, and then.
Speaker 5 (09:57):
Actually the factors of that game both come into that
game with top notch defenses.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
Right Ohio State. You just said it, though, who did
they play?
Speaker 6 (10:05):
No?
Speaker 4 (10:06):
And so to get tested that's the knock on it.
Speaker 5 (10:08):
So to get tested in the real way against a
team that had something to prove. I mean this, for me,
it was the recipe for a win by Miami but
but for.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
College football and the way that these top teams have
been getting knocked out, is that really what do they
have to relook at the way they set up the
playoff format because I don't know if that's really how
you want the playoff to go. And I'm not saying
you're trying to rig it or fix it so that
the better teams or better brands you know, can kind
(10:39):
of move forward.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
But we've seen this now for a couple of years.
Speaker 5 (10:42):
Well, they've done everything they could rob to make sure
the teams they wanted to get in it.
Speaker 4 (10:47):
Let's that's not let's no, no, no, let's not. Trust me.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
I already know how to operate, and this is it's
a business like. It's like you can sit there and
you can talk about anything you want. It's just like
the deal that they have with Notre Dame. Yes that
they all have to be the top the top twelve
and they're going to get into the college football playoffs, Yes, regardless,
no matter.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
What if they're in the top twelve.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
And they were able to broker that deal because they
have leverage, they have the NBC deal, They have it
on money.
Speaker 4 (11:15):
No one's forced them.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
You could easily if you really wanted to punish Notre Dame, right,
you could. They got too big of a fan base,
They got too much money behind them that you can't
ignore them. They went in with that leverage to be
able to tell the college football this is their deal.
Speaker 4 (11:31):
You won't take it or not? You know what I mean, Like, yeah, no,
it's it's insane, like we know what they want.
Speaker 5 (11:37):
It's about money, it's about TV, it's about the ratings,
it's about all of that.
Speaker 4 (11:41):
But I think so it's Indiana. The chance is Indiana.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
Now do you look at Indiana has the pathway to
be the national champions? Is that gonna happen? Or could
they be upset?
Speaker 5 (11:50):
Oh, they can be upset. Today they play Alabama. Obviously
Alabama's not Nick Saban Alabama. Right, They're Alabama. They can
win the game. And we just where are you from?
Speaker 4 (12:00):
I'm from Alabama.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
I just want to check you on that. That's all
I'm always you know me, I'm gonna always full of
curtain back. I'm not mad at you for being from.
Speaker 4 (12:08):
Alabama, but I always kid roll time.
Speaker 5 (12:12):
I know I'm just saying, But what I'm saying is
you picked him every year are you.
Speaker 4 (12:16):
I don't. I'm not a fan, now are you?
Speaker 6 (12:18):
Are you?
Speaker 4 (12:18):
Kelvin Washington picked everything Detroit every time? Absolutely, Okay, I
actually picked.
Speaker 5 (12:23):
I'm actually picked against him in big games just to
mess with my family, because what do you mean exactly?
Speaker 4 (12:29):
Don't you know this is your birthday? What are you
doing exactly? No, they have a chance to win.
Speaker 5 (12:32):
I'm not saying they are, and I think Indiana well,
I mean they have a really good chance to win.
Speaker 4 (12:37):
Today.
Speaker 5 (12:37):
We just talked about though, teams that have to double
bio what one five rob right, and so.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
We're gonna see like taking all that time, but would
you change that?
Speaker 3 (12:46):
Like seriously now now you've got a big enough sample size,
it's not okay last year, Okay, just a freak.
Speaker 4 (12:52):
Of fluke or whatever.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
House State goods knocked out looks rusty from the Star
and I'm gonna get Miami played well.
Speaker 4 (12:59):
I'm not try to pooh poo them, But Ohio.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
State didn't seem like they start it slow, right slow,
really really slow.
Speaker 5 (13:07):
Yeah, you cannot dip your toe in the water when
it comes to playoff football, playoff anything.
Speaker 4 (13:12):
You got to come ready to go. And they weren't
ready to go to start.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
Yeah, that's what I always think about college football, just
the layoff between the end of the regular season and
then right and they know we got to wait until
the playoffs, I mean until the holidays to put those
games on, and then there's like a month, like twenty
five days, a long time.
Speaker 5 (13:30):
And we don't like it. We're practicing without a game.
So think about that process. So even just from the
player standpoint, you get tired of going against each other, right,
And we've seen that even in training camp.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
That's why training camp is hard.
Speaker 5 (13:41):
It's not because you're doing all these raps and you're
out in the like, No, you're practicing every day with
not a there's a goal, but not a goal that's
right in front.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
Of your face that you can see.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
That's what I always thought. This is just me why
football wouldn't be fun. And I'm just is that you
pract more than you play.
Speaker 6 (14:01):
You do.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
Like for me, as a baseball guy who played baseball,
you play all that you play all the am I right,
Like there's such a difference, Like I'm just practice practice
and then you just get that one game, you know
what I mean?
Speaker 4 (14:15):
And I get it.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
It's a Crescenjosne. You know, right, build up. Uh, but
baseball is like you don't have time to worry about
I was oh for four yesterday, I got another game today,
another game.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
You oh for four, and then you two before the
next game.
Speaker 5 (14:32):
In football, you get one opportunity at the end of
the week, and if you screw that up, you got
a whole other week to.
Speaker 4 (14:38):
Think about it.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
Yeah, it is something and it sent shock waves, no
doubt through college football. Was Miami's upset last night a
bad thing for college football? Kerry says, no, I say yes,
it is bad. I don't care what you say. Eight
seven seven for eight four thirty four thirty seven.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
That's eight seven seven for the Herd. I need more team.
My god, I'm really really struggling. All right, we'll continue
that conversation next with you. It is the Herd. Yes,
you heard it right.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
It is Rob Parker Kerry Road sitting in for Colin
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Speaker 4 (15:22):
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Speaker 2 (15:32):
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Speaker 4 (15:42):
Happy New Year.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
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Speaker 4 (15:50):
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We'll be joining us here on the Herd coming up
in about fifteen ten minutes, I should say, coming up soon,
and we'll talk about a lot of other stuff, including
some NFL stuff with Courk Kerry played in the NFL
(16:35):
with the Jets and the Arizona Cardinals.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
What other team that I miss?
Speaker 6 (16:38):
So that was it?
Speaker 4 (16:38):
That was it.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
That's what I thought, just the two teams. So we'll
do that and much more. We are taking phone calls
here on the Herd and we'd love to hear from you.
Our number is eight seven seven forty four thirty four
to thirty seven. That's eight seven seven for the Herd
and David.
Speaker 4 (16:58):
Oh we lost them? What happened? David? And Memphis Callback?
Sorry about that. We're just gonna go to David. Rob,
do you hit the button where we just lost him?
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (17:07):
He just didn't do anything? All right? Uh? Rob g
We also can you jump on?
Speaker 3 (17:14):
We also talked about Lanning who had some statements about
college football and the NFL.
Speaker 4 (17:27):
Okay, what happened? What's going on with that? We got Rob? Rob?
Speaker 6 (17:32):
You on?
Speaker 4 (17:34):
Okay, his button is not working. We're going, Okay, there
we go. What's happy New Year?
Speaker 6 (17:39):
Rob?
Speaker 8 (17:39):
When you're working out of the attic here Sports Radio.
Speaker 4 (17:43):
Yes, it's a little different for us. We're not in
our usual studios.
Speaker 8 (17:46):
We're used to the high end everything HD, large televisions
and now I got a speakers that don't work, a
button that doesn't light up, and you spoiled man.
Speaker 4 (17:58):
Plumbing it right now. But yeah, we're back in the
wood paneling back here.
Speaker 8 (18:02):
One game with you and I, of course, is the
Oregon Texas Tech Bowl Game quarterfinals for the playoffs and
leading up to the game, a lot of the conversation
was not so much on the game itself, which obviously
is a huge game. It was more so on Dan
Lanning's comments about the state of college football, the calendar,
and more specifically how the NFL has infringed upon our freedom.
Speaker 9 (18:25):
Thinking this, I've got a ton of respect for the NFL,
but we're a prep league for the NFL. We do
a lot of favors for the NFL. Right, We're the
minor league in a lot of ways, but there's no
money paid from the NFL to take care of college football, right,
And in that sense, we've given up some of our
days right to the NFL.
Speaker 4 (18:41):
We said, oh, this is you guys get to have
this day.
Speaker 9 (18:43):
You get to have this day.
Speaker 4 (18:44):
You get to have this day.
Speaker 9 (18:45):
Saturdays should be sacred for college football, right and every
Saturday through the month of December should belong to Saturday,
you know, to college football in my opinion.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
And so Carrie reacted like, what is he saying?
Speaker 3 (18:57):
But I'm with Dan Lanning, d Yes, because the NFL
they're bullies and carry. I know you're an NFL ven
and all that, and I respect you know, being able
to make it to the league, but they have infringed
on Saturdays with college football. How they've got there's a law,
Rob g we talked about the law to television agreement
(19:19):
that said you can't rob g what was that broadcast
law that said high school football on Friday, college football
on Saturday, and the NFL on Sunday, so that they
would in the NFL, couldn't you.
Speaker 4 (19:37):
Know, overshadow and overshadow.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
Like high school football on local level and college football
or whatever.
Speaker 4 (19:45):
And how they've gotten way away with.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
It is because they on Saturday, they do the streaming,
and they did Friday Black Friday games on streaming, not
on broadcast television.
Speaker 4 (19:55):
And his only point is, and you and.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
You people look at the NBA. They took over Christmas
from the NBA. So this is the NBA. I get it.
They're the big guy in the room. They're the bully.
But I do understand. And and if you're going to
be Dan Lanning and the college football then you have
to make it clear to the NFL, like hey, let
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us have Saturday.
Speaker 4 (20:21):
Like like, let us have Saturday because what was what
was the game?
Speaker 3 (20:25):
There was a game against the NFL, like right two
Saturdays ago or whatever, like you know, a college football
game or what was that? I don't know, like that
you know they're playing on the same day. But you
have to wage a real war. And what I mean
by that if you're college football is if you guys
don't want to work with us, we might have to
(20:46):
cut off the access that we give you to our athletes,
to our intel. You know what I mean, because they
have a free minor league system and he talked about it,
rob cutting off the access to the university or to
the players isn't going to help anybody though. No, but
I'm just saying I get for the players. But remember
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everybody doesn't make it to the NFL. So it's a handful.
Speaker 4 (21:10):
I mean, it sounds good the two or.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
Three guys, there's a whole other group of guys. And
all I'm saying is you gotta have some sort of
working relationship. We foot the bill for a lot. When
I say we college football. The Dodgers have ten minor
league teams that they have to pay coaches, fields, that
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comes out of their money.
Speaker 4 (21:35):
NFL doesn't have any of that.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
They don't have to They just do their business and
they got this free feeder system that they don't have
to do anything. And that's all I'm saying is like
the last thing we want, we're not even asking for money.
Can we have Saturdays? High school football Fridays? College football Saturdays?
Speaker 4 (21:53):
And then NFL what you've.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
Already seen between Monday Thursday night and now they got
the Black Friday game, they play games on Saturday.
Speaker 4 (22:08):
Yeah, that's all. I don't think he's what he's saying
is ridiculous.
Speaker 5 (22:11):
Yeah, but I would say just check check the temperature
of the room as well. All right, you're the stuff
you're saying is one hundred percent right, And I can
understand him saying that from that perspective. But then you
look at college football and what days of college football
play on? Is it just solely Saturday? Well not, But
I'm just saying, like, so like they've taken steps to,
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you know, find extra days to play on and have
moments to stand alone. On Fridays, they have Friday night game,
so they have they've started to spread their wise. And
so if they're saying the NFL does that, the high
school can say they're a farm league for college and
they're taking their day so like everybody has.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
But the difference is those high school games on our
national TeleMe.
Speaker 4 (22:54):
Well, but the majority and they know.
Speaker 3 (22:59):
Because they see the ratings being heard in college football
college football ratings are down.
Speaker 4 (23:04):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (23:04):
Despite these teams and and all the money that's involved
and all that other stuff, it ain't as easy as
it has been. Rob G do we have this call
here or is that the no? No no, I just oh
it dropped it. So we got we got problems here
on the phone. It's all good. I just thought that
(23:25):
was the same guy I was trying to get in
here on the odd couple. Yeah so, but but the
only way talking about it ain't gonna get nothing done.
Speaker 4 (23:31):
It's all I'm saying, is it.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
It had to be a real, a real like all
out war in order to get them to understand like
how important this is. And I'm just saying, you have
to market material your your territory. The NBA just rolled
over they did, you know, and now they find themselves
where Christmas Day and and the NBA rolled out, uh
(23:55):
these ratings for those games, and the NFL just said,
well look at our ratings.
Speaker 4 (23:59):
They to triple what you guys for games that didn't
even matter.
Speaker 5 (24:03):
But I think it comes to this, Rob, like what's
the real contingency plan?
Speaker 6 (24:08):
Right?
Speaker 5 (24:08):
Like we can have these guys, people can say certain
things out loud and can be one off since then
on your own. But like somebody like a Dan Lannon
who's been a really great coach, uh and coach is
one of the best teams in college football in Oregon,
Like why not have this conversation with the powers to
be in college and not the fans.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
That doesn't matter, right, there's no doubt that that that's
a conversation that you have to have.
Speaker 4 (24:33):
But but we.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
Are where we are, And what I mean is everything
is public, all these press conferences, all that stuff.
Speaker 4 (24:40):
It wasn't always like that. You know where you heard
all these things. So it wasn't like he was standing
on top of the Empire State Builder yelling you know
what I mean.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
He's in a press conference, they ask him about something
and then boom, guys get on their soapbox a little bit.
And that's usually where that kind of stuff come from.
But it is interesting just as the NFL continues to
just monopolize it. And I've said it all the time,
the NFL people don't remember it when they when they
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came off of CBS. CBS didn't want to pay the
rights fees, and the NFL people don't remember when the
NFL was taken off of network television Monday Night Football.
People don't because the ratings weren't good Monday Night Football.
That's why they came off of ABC. People because Monday
Night Raw had better ratings than Monday Night Football.
Speaker 4 (25:35):
Did you know that? I didn't know that.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
People what year Tagler Boo was the commissioner, so you
got to go back to that. I don't know the
exact year. And supposedly he went to Vince McMahon and
tried to get them to move Monday Night Raw because
they were affecting. People were And then this thing called,
uh the.
Speaker 4 (26:00):
What's the football?
Speaker 3 (26:02):
Fantasy football came along and changed every That changed everything
because I used to be if you were a fan
of a particular team, like your team, the Jets.
Speaker 4 (26:11):
I grew up and I was a Jets fan.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
Fantasy football made me care about games that that had
nothing to do with my team because I had a
player on the Jacksonville Jaguars. So now I'm watching and
I'm interested in that game, where before I was never
interested in any And that's how you take something from
regional to a national interest.
Speaker 4 (26:32):
And then you add the element of gambling.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
On top of it and that's but but those were
the two things fantasy football people winning money and being
and caring about games. A meaningless Jacksonville game against the Panthers,
all of a sudden people are watching on a Monday night.
Speaker 5 (26:48):
Because they right, they don't care who wins or lose it.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
So so it was of that ilk it was. It
was amazing, and so that has what happened.
Speaker 4 (27:00):
Right now. Let's welcome in Yogi Roth from the Big.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
Ten Network of course analysts and the host of the
Why Option podcast and Yogi Happy New Year. Say hello
to Kerry Rhoades here on the Herd. What's happening, Lot's happening?
Speaker 6 (27:16):
Happy here to YouTube as well, Thanks for having me on.
A big fan of all the work that y'all do.
And it is a is a beautiful morning. I'll be
at a little rainy. We just finished our pregame show
as you reference on the Big ten Network out here
at the Roosevelt and just kind of getting going here
with the organ game. So it's gonna be a fun
New Year's day.
Speaker 4 (27:32):
Yogi, how many Why options can you still run? Right now?
You still can run a couple of those, you know.
Speaker 6 (27:37):
I can. I'll get past the sticks and I'll get down.
That's all I got.
Speaker 4 (27:43):
But I'm in all right, Yogi.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
Let's go to last night's game, and you know, Miami dominated.
It should have been probably leading by three scores in
the first half.
Speaker 4 (27:52):
They're up by two. They dominated that game.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
And here's Ohio State hadn't played in twenty five days,
the number one seed. All that out the window, and
we look at it and now teams with the buys
are now zero to five in this new format. Is
this a problem in college football or not?
Speaker 6 (28:09):
Yeah, that's a cool question. I still don't think we
have all the data. I mean, talk to me at
the end of the night. You know, maybe it's a
different answer. I think that we do have in college football.
Number one. I think we got to give Miami a
ton of credit.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
Yeah, no doubt, no doubt. They dominated. They earned that win.
I'm not even trying to pooh pool.
Speaker 6 (28:26):
Yeah, no, I know that, and you've always been that way.
I think what stood out to me in that game
for Ohio State first was their last two games, they've
had moments. Their margin for error has just the surprising
part is has been so small. Right Indiana, they had
two or three runs that almost broke. They would have
won the game if they make one of those plays.
They don't throw that pick six. Who knows what happens
(28:49):
in the second half. But I'm with you, that was
surprising for me. I thought Ohio State would go and
have a chance to repeat. They don't. To your point
on the layoff we just got done talking about Indiana
is now twenty six days. Texas Tech they're down early
twenty six days, and I think it speaks more to
the calendar of we should be playing that's the title
game right now. Like you know, I started thinking about
(29:11):
the last night. The NFL, like the top seeds still
get buys, but they're only off for a week. You
know that they're not off for three almost a month,
So I think that they're going to look at this.
I think the calendar is getting just too much momentum
from coaches. I mean, look at the game you're watching
now in Oregon. Kosh Lupoy, will Stein just get their
dream jobs to be head coaches, and they're coordinating a
(29:31):
team and all their focuses there Brian Hartlin last night
for Ohio State. You can put your focus there, but
you also have to put it elsewhere. And I just
think it doesn't make a lot of sense. And what's
going to happen if we play this thing out of
my eyes in five years is college football just doesn't
become entertaining anymore outside of the games, and the NFL
is entertaining outside of the games. We love free agency,
(29:52):
we love the drafts, we love the portal. If you will,
I think College foot buck can learn a thing or
two from that, and I hope they do make those
necessary changes.
Speaker 5 (30:00):
Yeah, yo, Yeah, that's a great point. I mean we
kind of glossed over the Brian the heartline not being
able to call plays last night because of his new
job affiliation, and you know, they going back to play
call And do you think that had any effect on
the slow start or do you just attribute it to
the twenty five days off?
Speaker 6 (30:19):
I think it all contributes to it. I meanink, Brian
Day is so accomplished as a play caller, it's hard
to criticize him based on just his pedigree and what
he's always done. But it's been two years. I think
it's a fair thing to bring up when you add
in the twenty five days off, the injuries on the
offensive line they deal withate a different starting offensive line
group and then they have to change excuse me again
at the half due to an injury. So I mean
(30:41):
you combine all those things plus Miami's strength is their
front set of Yes, yes, I mean them in Indiana
and Oregon. I mean you kind of to talk a
lot of the CFP teams, but it's an explosive, violent group.
I mean that is their strength defensively, and two weeks
in or two games in a row, rather iow State
exposed up front and that was the thing that I
(31:02):
was most looking forward to in the game, because you
guys know this, when a coach finds a flaw within themselves,
like Ohio State. Did they give up five sacks against Indiana?
I think they had six all season heading into the
Big Ten title game, and they gave up a bunch
more again last night. I thought they would have found
ways to shore that up. They tried to with tempo
and getting the ball out, but ultimately it just wasn't enough.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
How about Miami, where are they now? Can they really
upset the Apple CARDA?
Speaker 4 (31:27):
Was this a one off?
Speaker 6 (31:29):
I'll tell you what. My favorite graphic thus far in
the CFP that we saw on TV last night was
since that game in two thousand and two, two thousand
and three, the national title game between those two teams.
I think Miami's only had four to ten win seasons
and Ohio State had something like eighteen. Wow, And that
I wrote it down somewhere that's clearly not in front
of me now, I apologize, but it was crazy to
(31:51):
see that. And you know, I've known coach Chris the
ball as you guys have for a long time, and
I think there is something that's cliche but accurating college
for all, when the U is back, when the Trojans
are rolling, like, there is something to the to the
blue blood's being really blue because it's so easy to
take shots at him when they're down.
Speaker 8 (32:10):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (32:11):
It's also amazing to watch Indiana and Texas Tech have
this crazy elevation that they've never seen in their historic
programs respectively. But overall, yeah, I think it's real watching
Mario rebuild Oregon within the trenches and then pass it
off to Dan Lanning who's taking it to another level.
And then when he left to take over his alma mater,
a just a program that we all remember. I have
(32:33):
no idea what Miami was like back in the day.
Either I remember playing against Otro Role and Sean Taylor
and Jonathan Vilma like that, what Ken Dorsey, We played
those Jeremy Shockey. It was awesome that back in the
old Big East. So yeah, I think I think they're
real and we'll see how this thing shakes out. But
can you imagine Oregon Miami, Like how much song would
(32:55):
that be with Mario Christoball and Dan Lanning just for
the drama college football in the national title game?
Speaker 4 (32:59):
It would be.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
Our guest is Yogi Rath from the Big Ten Network,
of course, an analyst and host of the y Option podcast,
joining us here on the herd. Rob Parker carry Rhades
in for Colin on this New Year's Day.
Speaker 5 (33:12):
Yogi with me, you cover the Big ten a lot,
and obviously when we look at the Big ten in football,
I mean we think about Ohio State, Michigan. Obviously, Indiana's
kind of jumped in in that party in that mix.
Speaker 4 (33:24):
I'm running against Indiana. We're gonna talk about that coming up.
They're not the little engine that couldn't They're not.
Speaker 5 (33:30):
No, no, no, but any other joint the party with
those two. But we always talk about the Big ten
and the SEC being the pillars of college football, and
I just I think we put too much credence in that,
and I think individually some of these teams deserve a
little bit more credit, Like do you really think that
the Big Ten in the SEC is heading shoulders above it?
When we talk about the full body of work of
these of these conferences, heading.
Speaker 6 (33:53):
Shoulders I think is aggressive. And from the lens of
PAC twelve, I know what it was like to be
the only, you know, one of the very few people
you're kind of fighting for a league. Try to talk
about the strength. And when I look at the Big Twelve,
I see the old PAC twelve of a bunch of
really good teams that you know, beat each other in
one score, high scoring games. Exactly when I look at
the ACC, I'm a pit alum. You know, it's still
(34:16):
weird for me to think a PIT in the ACC.
And it's been almost damn here twenty years for them
being in that league. I think, here's the truth that
I've learned in the last two seasons calling all Big
Ten games and really even betting myself within that league.
And I say the same for the SEC to go
in NI conference games, for the Big Ten SEC thankfully
(34:37):
think the Lord will go there next year and get
out of that week week eleven game that majority of
them have. It's brutal, it's just hard. I mean Minnesota
is as a tough out sc a tough out Washington,
a toughout like that. That's the challenge. I think as
the years go on. And if you asked me last
year your biggest takeaway of the Big Ten, I would
(34:57):
have said, Man, I didn't think the quarterback play was
as good as I wanted it to be. Yeah, this
season it's been the best in the history of the
Big Ten. And I've checked that with Jery DeNardo, who's
been a Big Ten Network analyst for nearly twenty years,
and he co sign on that. And you look up
and down the league, look at whether it's Demon Williams
or Dante more may Ava, Dylan Ryola at the time
(35:18):
when he was at Nebraska. Look at Mark Ronowski what
he just did against Tennessee at Iowa like you start
looking at it. Drake Lindsay at Minnesota will not get
a lot of play, but he'll be drafted in two years.
He's needs a big time pocket passer. So I start
looking at that, and then when I talk to guys
in the portal, Fernando Mendoza being one of them, they
want to come play in this league, in the Big
Ten or the SEC. So it's becoming the power too.
(35:40):
And I'll finish with this. What is surprising most in
my sidebar conversations with coaches and athletic departments is there's
a desire to get as they've called to the power too,
and I never thought i'd hear that. But whether that's resources,
whether that's exposure, whether that's media, whatever it is. But
to me the Big Ten is that they different and
(36:01):
it will surprise you. And then I get the last
part was the fan bases like the care factors through
the roof. I mean, it's crazy, man. I'm calling Rutgers
Perdue winless Big Ten teams in late September and it's
sold out. Wow, West Lafayette like that. That is a
really cool element. So I do think the diversity of players, scheme,
the quarterbacks and now finding their way coaches want to
coach in this league. The money resources have a part
(36:24):
to do with that. And then the tradition of course
carries it so head and shoulders no, but are they
separating I think, so I feel that being embedded in it,
all right.
Speaker 3 (36:34):
And Yogi, I would be remiss when I'll asking you
who you're named after?
Speaker 6 (36:40):
Oh, thanks for asking me. Yeah, often people think it's
Yogi Bear.
Speaker 3 (36:45):
Well there's only two Yogi's Yogi Bear and Yogi bearra.
Speaker 4 (36:49):
Right, there's only two.
Speaker 6 (36:50):
Well, well I'll ad a thirteen. So my family, my
parents studied Eastern philosophies forever. So every kid got a
Hindu name as their as one of their either first
or middle name, and then the other one was Hebrew
because my mom was born and raised in the Middle East,
in Israel. So Yogi is like if you practice yoga,
all right, if you're trying to bring some union to
(37:11):
the world in this chaotic word raw argue. Yes, right,
you go to yoga class, you get centered. They decided
to give me that name and tried to shake it
early on because the near a kid in an athlete. Right,
But I'm really proud of it now and hopefully I
can do that and you know every part of my life.
Speaker 4 (37:27):
Well, thank your parents for me. Yes, well, that's awesome.
Speaker 3 (37:30):
And I always when I hear names that you know,
you don't hear that often I always want to ask,
you know what I mean, where they came from.
Speaker 4 (37:37):
But Yogi roth Man, we appreciate you. Thanks for joining
us here on the Herd. Thank you, Yogi.
Speaker 6 (37:41):
Heck you Happy New Year. Enjoy and keep killing it.
It's enjoy watching you guys.
Speaker 4 (37:45):
Thank you, buddy.
Speaker 3 (37:46):
All Right, Dan Campbell really put his foot in his
mouth this week, Yes he did.
Speaker 4 (37:51):
We'll get into that next. It is a herd. You
heard that.
Speaker 3 (37:56):
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Speaker 2 (38:06):
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Speaker 4 (38:59):
At think my voice carries all right.
Speaker 3 (39:02):
I've been drinking hot tea trying to get myself together
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Speaker 4 (39:07):
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Speaker 3 (39:09):
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Speaker 4 (39:30):
One of my favorite coaches, Dan Gamble, I mean Dan
Campbell from the Detroit Lions from me.
Speaker 3 (39:38):
He was waxing poetically about his quarterback, Jared Golf.
Speaker 8 (39:41):
Yeah, Jared Goff, you mentioned in the commercial break, had
one of the worst closing to a season as possible
last year against the Commanders in the playoffs. Had four turnovers.
This year in a must win God have a game
against the Minnesota Vikings has five.
Speaker 3 (39:54):
So you know what that means, right, Rob G and
Carry what means he had more turnovers.
Speaker 4 (39:58):
Than a baker than a baker.
Speaker 8 (40:00):
Yes, And so afterwards, Rob Parker came out Fox Sports.
Speaker 4 (40:04):
Radio said you got to get rid of Jared Golf.
Speaker 8 (40:06):
And I think that they heard that in Detroit because
Dan Campbell was asked about and he said, quote, Jared's
an absolute stud.
Speaker 4 (40:13):
He's a pro. He's going nowhere. You're right, he's not
going to the Super Bowl. Neither are the Lions. And
Jared Golf don't know. Here we go. He puts up numbers.
I get it.
Speaker 3 (40:25):
Yeah, Carrie, they didn't like there's different levels to everything.
It's great to win regular season games. The Lions, with
the young nucleus and the players that they've signed and
where they were, the idea is to get to the
super Bowl, right, So let's not let's stop acting like
(40:46):
just winning nine games is great and we're all happy,
schmappy and all that is Detroit though. Okay, but three
years ago they won the NFC Championship Game, blowing out
the forty nine ers in San Francisco in the first half.
Speaker 4 (41:00):
Yeah, okay, yeah, that was a fail. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (41:04):
Then they get the top seed in the NFC home
field throughout the playoffs, fifteen and two franchise record. Whatever
rookie quarterback Jane Daniels shows up and as much as
he played well, the reason they lost was Jered Goar.
They were nine and a half point favorites because people
say all the defense was banged up. No, no, no,
(41:26):
Vegas gave you nine and it was nine and a
half even with the defense.
Speaker 4 (41:30):
Those hurt. Those players were already hurt before that game.
Speaker 3 (41:33):
They knew the Lions could outscore the Commanders, right, that's
why nine and a half points. Yeah, Jered Goss has
the four turnover there, just a terrible gameame. Here we
go to this year. They need to stay alive. They
need to win both games their last two games. Playing
Minnesota with the third string quarterback who had net three
(41:56):
net yards for the game. He threw for fifty one
yards forty one yards and sacks. Right, yeah, lost yards
he had three that was plus he had three passing
yards total. And Jared Goff has five turnovers in that game. Yeah,
he's a common denominator. I'm convinced you can't get there.
(42:19):
I just I've seen enough of Jared Goff, good quarterback.
I don't think you could get there. That's why the
Rams gave.
Speaker 4 (42:24):
Up on them.
Speaker 5 (42:24):
Yeah, I understand why the Rams gave up on them,
But for the Lions and what he's brought to that team,
he is their guy. There's no guy who're gonna bing
in that's gonna better than him right now. And yes,
all that stuff you said is true. Those years were failures,
but you're not getting anybody better than Jared Goff right now.
Speaker 3 (42:39):
All right, our number two of the herd is coming up,
and you know what you want to do?
Speaker 4 (42:45):
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