September 17, 2025 • 41 mins
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It's hour two.
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It is a Wednesday. Joel Clatten five minutes. It is live.
It is The Herd.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Thanks for stopping by today.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
Jamac I was thinking about this this morning is about
a year ago. I think ago on this show, I said,
you know, as we all go into a draft and
we're like, okay, which quarterback is gonna make it? And
which quarterback is it? And it's about a fifty to
fifty hit rate. So general managers this is all they do.
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They spend all their time on it. There has to
be something that you watch a college quarterback and you
go wow, Like Jaden Daniel's mobility at LSU in Arizona State.
You're like wow, A Justin Herbert size and arm he
was a four point two biology major.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
You're like brain size arm.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Josh Allen was jumping over linebackers, Mahomes, crazy arm, talent
Stafford out of college, huge arm. There's got to be
something where you have a trade like Kyler Murray can
get criticized, but Kyler murray elusiveness was as good as
I'd ever seen. It was Russ Wilson plus. And so
when you look at certain quarterbacks. When Jalen Hurts came out,
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my take was, well, what's the wow trait? It's been
my knock on Purdy Purty. It may be brain up.
He is so good pre snap that, like Sam Darnold said,
I'd never been around a player like that. He's so
quick on his feet, so sometimes you can't see the trait.
But I was thinking about Jalen hurt somebody that you
were really into three years ago, and I've been like,
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love him as a kid.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
I don't know if I love him as a quarterback.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
But an NFL executive said something yesterday and he said
his toughness and his just makeup his personality are so underrated,
And I thought he does have two traits. He does
have two wow trades. First of all, pound for pound,
he's the strongest quarterback in league history. That's why when
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the greatest center in the last decade left. The tush
push still works. It's not about Lane Johnson. It's not
about the fullbacker Saquon Barkley. It's about Jalen Hurts. Josh
Allen can't do it. Herbert can't do it, Daniel Jones
can't do it. Big strong guys can't do it. He
can do it. Being five eleven and a half and
pound for pound, the strongest player probably at any position
in the league. He has wow strength. The second thing
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is he is twenty seven going on forty seven. He's
insanely mature, and I think that doesn't matter as much
in sleepy markets like Tampa or Carolina, but in loud, noisy,
talk radio driven Philadelphia, his maturity is an amazing trait.
And so for years I was I was like, what's
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the trade? And I was taught that by GMS. There's
gotta be even the guys that fail, Like Anthony Richardson,
You're like that dude's got an arm that is a
first round arm.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Jordan Love when I saw him, You're like, oh man,
he moves and he throws. Those are two first round traits.
I think his ability to stay focused in a loud
town dumb and Sirianni and the receivers reading a book
club over on the sidelines, and talk radio Jalen Hurst
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talking about his ability and his need to stay focused
in this city.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
You got to come in with a sense of focus.
You got to stay patient within yourself, stay patient within
the team and your role and let things come to you.
And I think as a team we showed up when
we needed to the most. And that's the most important
thing in this league is final.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
I mean, it's like there's a reason Paul McCartney is
still touring like he was the mature Beatle. It's like
at twenty four, he was going on forty four and
I did there was a sense of selflessness, IQ mature
beyond his age, and I feel that with Jalen Hurts,
and I just don't think we think of that as
a wow trait, but it is. DA's got some of that.
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And Joel Klatt will be calling Texas Tech at Utah
this Saturday at noon Eastern on Fox.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
So I was thinking about this.
Speaker 5 (04:28):
I am.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
You know, for years and years you and I supported
Harbaugh and there was a lot of noise out there.
He didn't know what he was doing, and it was like, listen,
he wanted San Diego, the Niners, Stanford.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
He's good.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Okay, he's good, but it's hard in college football. He
was pre nil. Most of building was pre transfer portal,
so it takes time. He took over a bad roster
and I I look at him now with the Chargers,
and I made this argument an hour ago. If the
if the Pro Football Hall of Fame was like the
BA Skeball Hall of Fame, where you counted college, you
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counted pro, you counted basketball, I could argue Jim Harbaugh
is the best football coach the planet's ever had. He's
five for five. Think about this, Joel five for five
and Jimmy Johnson's had successes, but when Jimmy leaves a place,
it doesn't disintegrate. Cowboys won a Super Bowl, Cane's won
and Natty I mean Miami Dolphins made the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Is that?
Speaker 1 (05:25):
My argument is Harbaugh's strength is he's not just a
great coach, he's the soul of your team. He's so
he's so authentic it might taking you all the years
you dealt with him. What was your takeaway on Harball?
Because no coach pro and college has worked at this level.
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He went to five messes, he turned around all of
them immediately, and he leaves and they're all awful the
next day. Yeah, what is it with him? So that's
a great I mean, and a loaded question and a
long answer, because if I was being completely honest with you,
I covered two different Jim Harbaugh's almost completely No, I'm serious, Colin,
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I'm serious pre COVID. So every time I dealt with him,
whether it was you know, Stanford or with the Niners
when in draft process and then pre COVID Michigan, he
was very standoffish and just like wouldn't let you close.
It was almost like pulling teeth just to talk with him.
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He was rigid against you. He came with a rigidness
in the conversation that wouldn't allow really any communication. Yeah,
and after the COVID year, they struggle. He comes back
on remember that restructured deal at Michigan. And he comes
back and in twenty twenty one he came out and
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like sat for a production meeting with us for forty minutes,
and I was like, what is happening right now?
Speaker 3 (06:59):
I couldn't believe it.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Honest to god, this is exactly what was going on,
and he was a totally different person, and he was
open and he was authentic, and he talked about things
that he struggled with and things that he loved about
his team. And it started to become very obvious to
me that what Jim did post COVID.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
Wasn't about football. It was about people.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
And he became much more of a people person, even
with all of his quirks, but what never left him
was the foundational things that he believed in from a
football perspective. I think we're going to see the best
version of Jim Harbaugh that we've ever seen now with
the Chargers, I don't think there's any doubt that they're
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going to have success. I think that they're ultimately going
to win a Super Bowl because they've got the coach
and the quarterback to do it. Maybe not this year,
I'm not sure, but at some point with that combination,
I think that they're going to win a Super Bowl.
And one of the things I would just go a
little bit deeper, and I know, like a little backstory
in this interim coach at Michigan right now, Biff Pogi, Yeah,
Biff is I don't want to say a character, but
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he is a guy that rose through the ranks as
a high school football coach in Baltimore. And if you've
read it, I think that it's great. And if you haven't,
there is a book called A Season of Life and
it features Biff as a high school football coach and
he was a coach with an old Baltimore colt named
Joe Erman. And these two were great high school football
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coaches together, and yet they didn't really focus on football.
They focused on people and loving on the players and
telling the players that they loved them. Well, Biff's son
ends up walking on at Michigan and then Jim hired
Biff to come on in twenty twenty one. And one
of the things that they did is they would meet
multiple times a day and Jim would say like, Hey,
this is how I'm feeling, Biff, I really love the
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way the kids practice, Like I love that, and Biff
would be like, tell them, tell them authentically from your
heart and Biff and those meetings changed Jim Harbaugh into
a player's coach with football foundation principles that would win.
And so those kids loved him because he told them
that he loved them.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
So it's a long answer to a very simple question.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
I dealt with two very different Jim Harbaughs, and the
one that's coaching right now with the Chargers, I think
will win a Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
So Jane Maia have the.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Last year for USC. I had friends ask me what
do you think about USC this year? And I said,
I really like the roster. I don't know about the quarterback.
He just lets go of that ball in half the time.
I'm not sure he knows where it's going. If you
doubt Lincoln Riley's coaching, you have not seen this kid play.
He's like not just hardball. He's a different player. Throws
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the ball away, dirts it, tucks it in Like I
don't know what they did. But if your quarterback's as
good as this kid is, and their defensive line for
the first time since Pete Carroll is big and deep,
like they spent nil money on their d line up players,
you think I'm crazy, but you take away that goofy touchdown.
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The refs butchered last week winning road games last year,
Like I don't know. I look at this quarterback and
I'm like, oh, that feels like a playoff team. Well,
I mean field like a playoff team. I felt like
I was trying to talk to you into this last week,
and I feel like you've come around on kind of
the blueprint that Lincoln Riley used to be successful at Oklahoma,
and I feel like USC is following more of that
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blueprint this year. They've run it a lot better. Even
though jade Miova, as you have said, has been terrific.
I think it's one of the more underrated teams in
the country personally right now. I think that their game
this weekend against Michigan State is a perfect opportunity to
beat what I think is a decent team, and then
they're going to have a monster game against Illinois, which
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is going to be kind of a coming out party
for my Ava and this entire program as a re
emergence as a power. They are good on defense, I
don't know how great they are, but offensively, they're doing
the right things. Again, They're running the football with effectiveness
and power. My Ava has been one of the best
quarterbacks in the country. In fact, on Wednesday's podcast, I
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broke down and I said, Okay, this was my before
the year top ten quarterbacks. Well this is the top
ten quarterbacks. How they've performed this season. He's on it.
He's on it. He's been one of the ten best
quarterbacks in the country easily statistically and in tangible intangible.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
So I'm a believer in USC.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
I don't know how far they're goal they're going to
go this year, but I will tell you this, I
wouldn't want to play them because they're a scary team
right now.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
There's too much balance.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
Yeah, so Brian Kelly pushedback on the media a little bit,
and Brian's lush back is putting it lightly. Yeah, he
had like a meltdown.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
Yeah, he had a meltdown.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
And he had meltdowns for years at Notre Dame with
his quarterbacks, and he's just one of those guys. Got
a little bit of the Jim Mora. We know he
can coach. He's very intense, he can be rough on quarterbacks.
But I always thought more could coach, and I think
Brian Kelly's already good coach. And here, let's just play
the tape. Do we have the Brian Kelly tape of
kind of melting down this way?
Speaker 3 (12:06):
Here it is you're.
Speaker 6 (12:08):
Micro, You're looking at this from the wrong perspective. LSU
won the football game won the game. I don't know
what you want from me. What do you want? You
want to win seventy to nothing against Florida to keep
you happy.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
There's no ridiculous questions.
Speaker 6 (12:25):
And I'm getting tired of it. That football team just
work their tail off to get an SEC win. And
you want to know what's wrong? You know what, You're spoiled.
You're spoiled.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
That's not great. But well you don't like that, no,
I mean, so where are we You're such a media member. Oh,
I'm not being precious. It's a little over the top.
But these college coaches, they run their states, they run
the university to the highest paid employee, but also hold
on timeout timeout, But remember who they represent, you see,
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I I agree if an NFL coach did that, I
would feel very differently than I do about a college
coach doing this because and I told you this last
week with Sark. Sark wasn't talking to the media when
he defended Arch. He was talking to Arch. Brian is
talking to his locker room. He's defending his group of guys.
He's building culture through the media, and the media don't.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
Even realize it.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
They're too narcissistic and they pump their own tires and
think they're so important that they have to get the
right answer from Brian Kelly. But Brian Kelly doesn't care
what they want to hear. And to be honest, I
will say this. I know people disagree with me on this.
I also think it's a stupid question, like, really, after
that game you get five interceptions?
Speaker 3 (13:42):
Your defense is fixed?
Speaker 1 (13:44):
Like they their defense was a problem last year and
their defense has been excellent so far this year. And
the first question is what's wrong with your offense? This
is the same type of questions Ryan Day gets at
Ohio State. It's like a media that is so self entitled.
And i'll borrow a term from him, spoil that the
answers don't The answers aren't intended to make the media
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feel better or feel smarter. The answers are intended to
build the locker room and protect the locker room. And
that's what I appreciate about college coaches, because they've got
to be more aware than that. They don't have, you know,
grown men in their locker room. They have young men
in their locker room, and so they're more aware of
culture and in more times than not, they'll be talking
to their team through the media.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
I think that's what he did.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
And he runs a little hot, so he got that
question and he's like, come on, like really he does run.
I like him, but he runs hot. So you know,
Caleb struggling in Chicago, and you covered him about it
at SCAH And I had an NFL GM tell me this.
I said, I don't care about the fingernails. I don't
care about jumping in the crowd.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
I said.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
The only time I saw him that bothered me. He
played at Oregon State his first year and he got
really poudy and moody on the sidelines and he kind
of like went into his shell. And I said, that's bad.
I'm like, dude, welcome, you know, welcome to big time
college football. You lose games and have really bad halves.
But but the GM told me, he said, kind of
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moody can be kind of aloof a little odd. That's
not you know, quarterbacks tend to there's a reason the
Mannings all work right, Like Eli and Archie and Peyton.
It's like business first, go in good teammate betterly. It's
like like, and I guess my take is you covered
him a lot. Did you ever think it would look
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like this in the pros because it's rough.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
Well let's let's let's break it down.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
I think multiple personalities can win Super Bowls at the
quarterback position, and that's been proven out. So it's not
about the personality. And I would push back on you.
I think you focus too much on the personality then
you do the foundational aspects of quarterback play.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
Here's what I mean.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
The issues that USC had offensively with Caleb in particular
late was that he would not play in the confines
of the offense exactly, and because of that, the offense
never went to a place that it could go. So
let me put it to you in another analogy. If
you're going to take math during the course of your
high school or college, like, there are prerequisites to get
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to the higher levels. You've got to pass algebra one
before you can go out to algebra two, and you
got to go to geometry and do all that before
you can ever get to calculus, and so on and
so forth. The issue with Caleb right now is that
he struggles with algebra one and wants to play calculus
all the time, and there's foundational things that he has
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to be a part of.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
He's got to play.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
On time, and the ball has to go to the
right spot in the right timing more often than it does.
Right now, he's constantly looking for plays that aren't there.
He won't take things that are there right away what
the defense is trying to give them. You have to
play on time and on target. And so for me,
it's a floor issue. He's not doing the prerequisites, the
floor of what he needs to do at quarterback, and
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he constantly wants to go up to the top of
his talent. And you can't go there and impact the
game unless you've done these things first. So it doesn't matter. Actually,
the personality you can be aloof. You can yell at guys,
you can love on guys, you can wear your hat backwards,
you can wear your hat forwards. You can be a partier,
you can be a stay at home guy. But the
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prerequisite is is that your floor has to pass the
minimum bar of the offense's constraints in order for your
offense to operate well. And he doesn't do that right now.
By the way, finally Belichick faces UCF. Nobody watched him
after the opener because they just literally nobody's watching the
games after the first game. What's Belichick done UCF. I
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think it's undefeated. I think that's the team he plays next.
Let me ask you for those who stop paying attention
after the debacle, has anything gotten better at Carolina for Belichick?
Speaker 2 (17:59):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (17:59):
Yeah, the basics.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
They're blocking better, they're staying on blocks longer, they're getting
off blocks quicker. On defense, they're aligned quicker, they're aligned more. Foundationally,
they don't turn the football over. So they're not a
good or great team yet, but they are clean. They're
cleaner than what they played against TCU early. And to
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expect that team to play clean with seventy new players
and a new coach probably was an unrealistic expectation from
all of us looking at Bill Belichick and U and C.
But every single week they get a little bit better
with the things that they can control. There's an old
adage in coaching is that the only thing you have
one hundred percent control over is your own effort level
and details within the system, and taking care of those
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details fall under effort level.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
And what I.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
See as a team that is just cleaner from the
effort and detail of the way that they're playing. Okay,
I'll ask you this question. So I there's a line
out there that therapists often use. Not that I've ever
needed one better, no, not that you've heard this one, no, no, no,
But it is your responsibility to heal the pain others
inflict on you. So the bottom line is, get over
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yourself and get over it. It's still your job. No
matter how mean somebody is, how awful they are to you,
it's still your responsibility to heal pain inflicted by others.
So when quarterbacks are criticized, I'm for it because I
think the best quarterbacks in this league all had turbulence. Yeah,
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and arch Manning's life is Brownie james life. What nice
road do I get to take to my school today?
It's like those are great lives. I'm not jealous. I
don't envy it, but I think Brownie James should have
stayed in college one more year. I think Arch Manning actually,
this is the greatest thing that's ever happened to him.
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It's real turbulence. Texas football receivers are hurt. On his
third string running back new on line, his mechanics are weird.
I'm going to argue this is essential if you can
make it on Sundays. Well, you don't develop in life
without turbulence. I mean, I don't think it's even just
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a specific to quarterback play. I think all of us
at people need trials and tribulations in order to develop perseverance.
I mean, that's a biblical truth that I believe in, right,
so it absolutely applies to ars. And what a quarterback
has to have that's maybe bigger and more substantial than others,
is that they have to have a complete belief and
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self identity that is rooted in things that don't get
impacted from the outside. So you're not trying to prove
anything to anyone because you're comfortable with who you are
and you're not defined by anybody because you're comfortable with
who you are. And that's a learned trait and that
comes with maturity and certainly experience. At a position like that,
Arch's mechanics are not great right now. He's playing faster
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than the timing of the offense. That's an offense that
is is kind of an old school not old school.
They have West Coast offense tentacles, and in the West
Coast system, from a football perspective, they go by the
equation timing plus plate spacing equals completions. Well, if you're
not getting completions, one of those two variables is off
the timing or the spacing. I watched the film, and
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I think Arch is ahead of the spacing. Therefore he's rushing.
Therefore the ball tends to I would say, nose dive
and be low or away from wide receivers. He's overstriding.
As soon as he can unlock the timing piece of
the way that he plays and marry it to the
spacing of what they're trying to create on the outside,
that's when the completions and the success will start to come.
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Joel Clapp Utah game this weekend. I'll take the utes
to beautiful Stadium great, beautiful Salt Lake is great. I
can't wait to get out there. It's always a great environment. Yep,
see it, buddy, appreciate you, Bud.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
Have it going. Yeah. Yeah. The Harball stuff is.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
It really is fascinating that Joel saying basically there were
two hardballs. There was pre and host And we've had
Harbaugh on twice three times since he's been the Chargers coach.
He'll just talk for fifteen minutes. He'll stay on I'm
like fifteen minutes into the interview, he's like, you got
any more cartions, Like he's letting people into his life.
I don't know, you know, is that his wife or
whatever it is, whatever it is, I'd no idea. But
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Jim is much more uh, much more willing to give
of himself and and you know when you do that,
people give back. He's he's more fun to be around.
I asked Dean Spanos, the owner of the Chargers, a
year ago, I said, how is he in the building.
He's like unbelievable. He's just like unbelievable, and that that
wasn't always the issue. I mean he Michigan was his
alma mater, and you remember year two, three four of Michigan.
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There was like, yeah, Jim's kind of intense. I don't
know if this.
Speaker 5 (22:43):
Is going to work.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
And it's like Chargers Spanos family is like now he's unbelievable.
Everybody loves him. He's like he's like boy scouting there
like just perfect attendance, rooting for everybody else. So, I mean, people,
people change, they lighten up, they chill out.
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Speaker 1 (23:40):
So Joel Klaff made a point Mark Sanchez. Next hour,
Joel said, Colin, you kind of lean into personality too
much with quarterback.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
And my take is I have a you.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
Know, like a little media company I have called the Volume,
and I don't look at resumes.
Speaker 3 (23:53):
I've never looked at the resume. I don't care where
you went to college.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
I'm looking for people who have a skill and who
have the kind of personality they can work with others.
So I do look at personality when I'm hiring people.
Is you have to have a skill. I don't care
what your resume says. I don't care you went too pen,
I don't care. Do you have a skill that the
company can use. Your resume is not going to help you.
And do you have the kind of personality that you
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can work well with others, because in our business you
have to work with a lot of people, sometimes temperamental podcasters.
And so my takeaway is the Super Bowl has a
lot of different quarterbacks. You can be tall, you can
be short, you can run, you can be pocket. There's
a lot of different styles, shapes and sizes, but most
of the personalities are the same. Obsessed, mature, intense leaders,
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comfortable with discomfort. Brady and Mahomes they're very comfortable being uncomfortable,
And so I do think the personalities they do matter.
Green Bay moved off Aaron Rodgers they got tired of
his personality. Cleveland moved off Baker same reason, and that
doesn't I've said Baker's personality fits better in Tampa. Todd
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Bowles high IQ, high EQ, totally chill, Hugh Jackson, Greg Williams,
A lot.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
There's a lot.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
Doesn't mean they're bad guys, but there was a lot
and a lot of ego and it felt like sometimes
you know, there's an old saying spot it.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
You got it.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
Somebody with an ego is often offended very quickly by
somebody else with an ego. Todd Bowles just everything rolls off.
He kind of leans into Baker. He loves him and
lets Baker be Baker. So my point is, I think
personality matters for that position in my life of having
to hire people, personality matters. Can you get along with others?
I'm not a resume watcher, you know I'm not. That
doesn't I don't. I don't care why you.
Speaker 3 (25:45):
Went to school. It doesn't.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
It doesn't mean anything to me. I sometimes like somebody
who's had a harder path. So I do think with
arch Manning, it has been. It has been in the
backseat of a nice car getting driven to school until
he was like sixteen and had his license. Like it's
it's a pretty comfortable life. Ronnie James, I got nothing
against it. I don't resent it. But I think if
you look at the history at quarterbacks in this league, transferred,
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beat up, hurt, bad coaching, it is a It is
a There is something to be said about struggling in college,
being doubted, being mocked, being hurt, and overcoming it that
has incredible value Jmack with the news.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
No, no turn on the news. This is the herd
Line news.
Speaker 8 (26:28):
All right, con let's start with the Packers two and zero. Obviously,
they are the best team in the league. They had
jumped the Eagles as the NFC's best bet to win
the Super Bowl plus six point fifty. I would not
recommend buying that there was better value. Two weeks ago
in limited action, Michael Parsons has left his mark, and
Jordan Love talked about what he's seen from his new
toomate teammate on the Rich Eisenschip.
Speaker 9 (26:51):
Michael Parsons, He's by far one of the most competitive
people I've met my life, and just I think that
competitive nature is what he brings. Like you said, he's
he's aching to be able to get off that snapcount
and go out there and play a full game. So
he's asian to just go out there and be on
the field as much as possible. But just being around him,
I know what type.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
Of competitive he is.
Speaker 9 (27:11):
He wants to win everything he does, and I think
that's just a little mindset that he's bringing to the
team obviously to that room, and it's just like I said,
it's the effectious energy.
Speaker 5 (27:23):
Yeah, you have me to make a case for the
Browns here, Yeah, please do so. Both Green Bay games.
Speaker 8 (27:29):
Were at home, obviously against teams that you know, yeah,
very motivated to play against. Now you step down in class,
go to Cleveland. Yep, right, yeah, some extra time off
the media heard Hierarchy has the number one.
Speaker 5 (27:42):
You know, we're the bass.
Speaker 8 (27:43):
We're gassed up, you know, puffing your chest out.
Speaker 5 (27:45):
And you let your guard down a little bit.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
Yeah, due number.
Speaker 8 (27:48):
The offensive line had a couple injuries against Washington.
Speaker 5 (27:51):
I think two guys were out.
Speaker 8 (27:52):
Now you gotta face Miles Garrett, not the easiest task
in the world. Jayden Reid is out for what like
seven weeks or something with the collarbone, so there are
some issues easy to overlook. I think we'll see this
line tick down just a little bit. I still think
the Packers win, but I don't think it's like a
thirty four to nothing rump.
Speaker 6 (28:09):
No.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
I think your point is when you face Jaden Daniels,
when you open with Detroit, you're at home. Big TV games,
standalone games. I mean they came in hot and by
the way, Jordan Love, Matt Lafleur, the receiving corps. These
guys have all been playing together, so Green Bay was
sort of a head I mean even though the youngest team,
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mostly your Craft, had been there. This is his second year.
So you have this young, cohesive team. Offensive teams, clever coaching, cash,
defensive teams or defenses off guard. I think it's one
of your I think it's a really smart play at
Cleveland's the side to me?
Speaker 5 (28:46):
Absolutely, you want me to add something. I just looked
at the schedule while you were talking.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
Who's next?
Speaker 5 (28:50):
You want to take a guess. Vikings at Dallas?
Speaker 8 (28:54):
Okay, Mikah Carsons, you think he's maybe overlooking this game,
just a little bit extra motivated for the trip to
Dallas next week, Colin. That I mean again, I'm not
saying that the Browns are gonna win. They're not better,
but you know how the NFL works, right, Browns just
got smoke. What was it, forty one to ten against
the Ravens, and.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
By if you go look at the box score that game,
the Browns out gain them.
Speaker 5 (29:17):
They did.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
Yeah, so it's like Cleveland's picking up yards. If Flacco's
your quarterback, you will move the ball.
Speaker 5 (29:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (29:25):
Next up, Miami Dolphins, Colin Miami. Oh my gosh, they
are reeling. They are zero to two. Listen, we talked
about it yesterday. This could be the final game for
McDaniel playing Thursday and then on Monday Night football. Josh
Allen has dominated Miami Are you ready for this?
Speaker 5 (29:41):
Thirteen and two.
Speaker 8 (29:43):
With a total of forty five touchdowns. And then Tua
yesterday talked about this. I don't understand why he would
say it, but here we go.
Speaker 10 (29:51):
Dude, he's he's top tier. You know, if it's not
with his arm, it's with his legs. You know that
dude can do nearly anything he wants. So definitely different
skill set for me. I can't do half of what
he does when it comes to running the ball and
any of that. And then with how he can just
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chuck a ball down the field, you know, with how
far and the arm strength that he has, you know,
he's supreme when it comes to that.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
So it's gonna be fun.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
I think he's completely honest and self aware, like they're
different players totally.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
I mean Tom Brady can't move like Mahomes or Lamar
and has joked about it when he was playing for years,
Like Tua knows what he is, he's not. I have
a bigger problem when quarterbacks have a greater sense of
their athletic ability and think they can scramble and it's like, okay,
you can do that if you're Lamar, but you can't
do that for ninety percent of the guys in the league.
Speaker 3 (30:46):
Two and knows what he is. He also knows what
he isn't.
Speaker 5 (30:49):
Hill's twelve and a half.
Speaker 8 (30:50):
Is this a you know, put the mortgage on it
kind of deal?
Speaker 1 (30:53):
Just all the bills are heavily favored, they come off
a blowout when Miami is desperate. Desperate teams actually play
over their skis. Also, they know the personnel they play
them every year twice. I would say Miami feels like
a better bet, and the weather isn't brutal yet. So
my take is Miami's probably the play.
Speaker 5 (31:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (31:13):
I made the case for them last week against Patriots,
and I liked the Dolphins and for them to be
unable to stop that offense was a little scary given
up thirty three points. They were outplayed on special teams.
I don't know where they're good. Feels like the last
Dand for mister McDaniel, final story, Colin is Sunday on Fox,
We've got a clash of the undefeated teams, rematch of
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the NFC Divisional Round Rams Eagles in Philadelphia.
Speaker 5 (31:40):
Sean McVeigh is injured.
Speaker 8 (31:42):
I think you joked about this yesterday, but he was
hurt during their victory.
Speaker 5 (31:45):
Yes, a coach injured.
Speaker 11 (31:49):
I did tear my planner fascist so no, yeah, well
that's a good thing because now I guess it allows
you to heal a little bit faster. But you know,
I was being dramatic limping around towards the end of
the game. But you know, the the MRI confirmed I
did that. But good news is I'm not playing, so
I'm just on the sidelines watching.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
He is such a good coach.
Speaker 5 (32:09):
Like that guy.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
He is so good from the opening press conference on
he is such a good coach.
Speaker 8 (32:14):
I got some troubling numbers on the Eagles, so I'll
ask you if I like them.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
By the way, the Rams plus three and a half.
It's my second favorite bet on the board this.
Speaker 5 (32:21):
Week, and if you wait too long, that's going to
be gone. It'll be free. But who has the better offense?
Speaker 3 (32:25):
Colin?
Speaker 5 (32:26):
Going into this game, I.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
Believe offenses start, you know, with your offensive line so
and by the way, when the Rams is healthy, it's good.
But the Eagles O line kind of changes games now.
Stafford throwing it, receiving corps. Davante Adams now is a
real thing. Phoka Nakua. This Jordan Whittingham kid, the second
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year player around of Texas is like productive.
Speaker 3 (32:54):
Their running back room is good.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
The Rams have a lot of depth, but I don't
think toe to tow offensive liner Saquon Kiren's good.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
He's not Saquon So.
Speaker 8 (33:04):
The Eagles through two games have the fewest plays in
the league of fifteen yards or more. They only have five.
That's it against Dallas and the Chiefs.
Speaker 5 (33:16):
Colin.
Speaker 8 (33:16):
They don't look explosive. I mean, you're trying to get
aj Brown traded here. By the way, Eagles fans are
not happy with you for that. I'm sure you're aware
or don't care, but I just I don't see the explosiveness.
Saquon Barkley can't get LuSE he's.
Speaker 5 (33:29):
Like three and a half yards of carry or whatever.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
I think.
Speaker 5 (33:33):
I'm with you.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
I like the Rams here, yeah, I mean, Pouka is
off to a great start.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
You know.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
The Davante Adams acquisition, like you know, people just kind
of forgot about him. Yeah, I mean three years ago
we were saying he was the third or fourth best
receiver in the league. And he's not noticeably slower. So,
I mean, the one thing about the Rams, they have
drafted exceptionally well on defense. They've had a few misses
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on offense. But if you look at pooka fifth round
and then Tygler Higgby, the Higgby the tight ends a
middle round guy, and then Kyron Williams was a fourth
or a fifth round guy, and their left tackle is
undrafted and Stafford is one of the oldest quarterbacks in
the league. They haven't drafted as well offensively. Jordan Winningham
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wide receiver who has pop now sixth rounder out of Texas.
McVeigh polls more talent is there a team in the league.
I mean Saquon was great, you know, a J Brown, great,
Davonte Smith. Those are Heisman winners and first round guys.
You start looking at the Rams offense. Outside of Stafford,
who again is older, there are a lot of mid
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round guys crushing They have drafted high with defense and
hit on them. A lot of it is mcveigh's magic. Offensively,
there's a lot of fourth and fifth and sixth round
guys doing great things with the Rams on offense.
Speaker 8 (34:57):
Remember how bad the Cowboys were picking on the the
Eagles second cornerback. Remember they don't have a number two cornerback,
so either Pooka or DeVante's in line for a big game.
And by the way, you're you've been hyping up the
Rams defense. That was spot on. This will be the
toughest defense Eagles have faced in a while. Okay, probably
since last year's playoff game.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
No, it's it's the real deal. Between Green Bay's offense
and the Rams defense, both are unbelievable. And you're not
really paying anybody. I mean, Jordan Love makes good money,
one of their guards does. And on the defensive side,
they you know, they pay us safety a little money.
But the Rams defense and the Packers offense, it's just drafting. Well,
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they've just hit on seven or eight really really good players.
Speaker 3 (35:41):
J McK with a new Well.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
That's the news, and thanks for stopping by the herd
line news.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
Even Cooper cut was a third round pick. It's just
every they just it's just working. Magic McVeigh has worked
as Magic was second, third, fourth, fifth, sixth round guys
drafted on that offense.
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Speaker 1 (36:26):
Yeah, I was thinking about I saw this rating. Fox
got a thirty four million people watch the Chiefs and
the Eagles. Baseball has done a great job making changes.
They've all worked speeding up the game ten percent attendance increase,
ten percent ratings increase, created more events. But I was
telling the staff this morning, baseball still needs to make
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one big move and eliminate forty games, play one hundred
and twenty games. It's not going to take that long
to figure out the Dodgers are better than the Twins.
You don't need one hundred and sixty games, you really don't,
and then you'd start playoffs in like late August because
playoffs starting, you know, late September, early October. I mean,
look at the crowds for football. There's so much momentum
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now you forget baseball's being played. I watched Sports Center
in the morning. I get on the treadmill, I watch it,
but it's like my mind immediately goes to football. Once
you get like to the second week of the NFL,
it's hard to go back with other sports. And the
NFL is done. Some of it's just circumstantial. It's like
it feels like every other league is kind of fighting
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uphill by the twenty first century viewing habits of Americans
except the NFL and the World Cup, where it's like
they're big events. Every NFL weekend feels like a big event.
Every early window on red Zone, I'm sitting there like
I can't wait, counting down into a big event Monday
through Friday. Sports, hockey, baseball, basketball, There's too many games.
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They They are increasingly international. You know, the NFL is
domestic is it is flag waving and the world really
moved into a global is a period. Now it's moving
back pivoting to a nationalistic nationalism is on the rise
in Europe and in America and waving the flag. I'm
sorry it's back in, but these numbers are I mean,
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baseball's fighting an uphill battle. If you're going to start
the playoffs in late September or October, good luck. Because
college football, when it gets into week four and you
get into conference play, those saturdays are big. Those numbers
go up. I'm watching the college and the Pro football
numbers World Series to start October twenty fourth. You also
(38:35):
have rainouts that can push it into November. Well that's
football season. So NBA's back at that point. So I
think baseball's done a good job. But you're asking me
if I can make a change, and they've made several
lop off forty games twenty per ower, like start two
weeks later, get out of the rain outs, and then
end a month sooner. You got to get some momentum
(38:58):
by Labor Day weekend because it's just really easy to
forget about it. Okay, NFL Week three, here are the games, Jmac.
I think you and I last week we were aligned
on a lot, although I kicked myself not taking Arizona
against the Panthers, and then the Panthers had a back
door cover, But I do think I like the Rams
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plus the points against Philadelphia, a team that's not throwing
the ball down the field. I think Cleveland's actually the
play against Green Bay, not to win the game, but points.
The game that I find fascinating is Dallas, who has
looked way better than expected in Chicago that hasn't That
game now is virtually a pick them, and Chicago's not
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ever been a great home field advantage. The weather is
still good. That line is puzzling. I have a hard
time talking myself into the Bears over the Cowboys both weekends.
For both weekends I've watched out the Thursday night game,
excuse me, and last weekend. The offense is humming. There
are more weapons that I thought. George Pickens has been nice.
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Jamont Hey Williams, the running back, has found creases. They
don't make a lot of mistakes. Their clock management's been better.
I don't find a lot of things I don't like
about Dallas. In fact, I said yesterday Dallas is my
surprise team in the league. They are significantly better than
I thought. Can you sell me on the Bears.
Speaker 8 (40:25):
That's a tough one, man. I don't have a strong
opinion who's winning that game? It feels like a toss up, right,
I mean the Bears have played two playoff teams from
a year ago, right, Vikings and Lions, so like they've
they've actually faced tough defenses. I don't know that the
Cowboys defense is that good. I'm looking at your Seahawks.
I know you're in the Northwest Seahawks Saints. How does
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Spencer Rattler, remember he's had two games at home. How
does he go on the road and do anything against
the defense that bottle up Aaron Rodgers In that second half?
Seattle outscored them twenty four to three in the second half.
Speaker 5 (40:56):
Yeah, why doesn't Seattle just pick their number and destroy
the same here?
Speaker 3 (41:01):
Oh well, I like Seattle. That's a good guy.
Speaker 5 (41:03):
Does that feel like a layup or.
Speaker 3 (41:05):
There are no layups?
Speaker 1 (41:07):
But I would say you're on the right track, which
is I think Seattle's defense I mean bottled up brock
Party and last week mostly bottled up Aaron Rodgers. I
think at home, getting a little chilly in the Northwest,
they'll bottle up Spencer Ratler. Hour three
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Speaker 3 (00:27):
It's hour two.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
It is a Wednesday. Joel Clatten five minutes. It is live.
It is The Herd.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Thanks for stopping by today.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
Jamac I was thinking about this this morning is about
a year ago. I think ago on this show, I said,
you know, as we all go into a draft and
we're like, okay, which quarterback is gonna make it? And
which quarterback is it? And it's about a fifty to
fifty hit rate. So general managers this is all they do.
(00:57):
They spend all their time on it. There has to
be something that you watch a college quarterback and you
go wow, Like Jaden Daniel's mobility at LSU in Arizona State.
You're like wow, A Justin Herbert size and arm he
was a four point two biology major.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
You're like brain size arm.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Josh Allen was jumping over linebackers, Mahomes, crazy arm, talent
Stafford out of college, huge arm. There's got to be
something where you have a trade like Kyler Murray can
get criticized, but Kyler murray elusiveness was as good as
I'd ever seen. It was Russ Wilson plus. And so
when you look at certain quarterbacks. When Jalen Hurts came out,
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my take was, well, what's the wow trait? It's been
my knock on Purdy Purty. It may be brain up.
He is so good pre snap that, like Sam Darnold said,
I'd never been around a player like that. He's so
quick on his feet, so sometimes you can't see the trait.
But I was thinking about Jalen hurt somebody that you
were really into three years ago, and I've been like,
(02:00):
love him as a kid.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
I don't know if I love him as a quarterback.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
But an NFL executive said something yesterday and he said
his toughness and his just makeup his personality are so underrated,
And I thought he does have two traits. He does
have two wow trades. First of all, pound for pound,
he's the strongest quarterback in league history. That's why when
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the greatest center in the last decade left. The tush
push still works. It's not about Lane Johnson. It's not
about the fullbacker Saquon Barkley. It's about Jalen Hurts. Josh
Allen can't do it. Herbert can't do it, Daniel Jones
can't do it. Big strong guys can't do it. He
can do it. Being five eleven and a half and
pound for pound, the strongest player probably at any position
in the league. He has wow strength. The second thing
(02:48):
is he is twenty seven going on forty seven. He's
insanely mature, and I think that doesn't matter as much
in sleepy markets like Tampa or Carolina, but in loud, noisy,
talk radio driven Philadelphia, his maturity is an amazing trait.
And so for years I was I was like, what's
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the trade? And I was taught that by GMS. There's
gotta be even the guys that fail, Like Anthony Richardson,
You're like that dude's got an arm that is a
first round arm.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Jordan Love when I saw him, You're like, oh man,
he moves and he throws. Those are two first round traits.
I think his ability to stay focused in a loud
town dumb and Sirianni and the receivers reading a book
club over on the sidelines, and talk radio Jalen Hurst
(03:38):
talking about his ability and his need to stay focused
in this city.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
You got to come in with a sense of focus.
You got to stay patient within yourself, stay patient within
the team and your role and let things come to you.
And I think as a team we showed up when
we needed to the most. And that's the most important
thing in this league is final.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
I mean, it's like there's a reason Paul McCartney is
still touring like he was the mature Beatle. It's like
at twenty four, he was going on forty four and
I did there was a sense of selflessness, IQ mature
beyond his age, and I feel that with Jalen Hurts,
and I just don't think we think of that as
a wow trait, but it is. DA's got some of that.
(04:21):
And Joel Klatt will be calling Texas Tech at Utah
this Saturday at noon Eastern on Fox.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
So I was thinking about this.
Speaker 5 (04:28):
I am.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
You know, for years and years you and I supported
Harbaugh and there was a lot of noise out there.
He didn't know what he was doing, and it was like, listen,
he wanted San Diego, the Niners, Stanford.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
He's good.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Okay, he's good, but it's hard in college football. He
was pre nil. Most of building was pre transfer portal,
so it takes time. He took over a bad roster
and I I look at him now with the Chargers,
and I made this argument an hour ago. If the
if the Pro Football Hall of Fame was like the
BA Skeball Hall of Fame, where you counted college, you
(05:02):
counted pro, you counted basketball, I could argue Jim Harbaugh
is the best football coach the planet's ever had. He's
five for five. Think about this, Joel five for five
and Jimmy Johnson's had successes, but when Jimmy leaves a place,
it doesn't disintegrate. Cowboys won a Super Bowl, Cane's won
and Natty I mean Miami Dolphins made the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Is that?
Speaker 1 (05:25):
My argument is Harbaugh's strength is he's not just a
great coach, he's the soul of your team. He's so
he's so authentic it might taking you all the years
you dealt with him. What was your takeaway on Harball?
Because no coach pro and college has worked at this level.
(05:45):
He went to five messes, he turned around all of
them immediately, and he leaves and they're all awful the
next day. Yeah, what is it with him? So that's
a great I mean, and a loaded question and a
long answer, because if I was being completely honest with you,
I covered two different Jim Harbaugh's almost completely No, I'm serious, Colin,
(06:08):
I'm serious pre COVID. So every time I dealt with him,
whether it was you know, Stanford or with the Niners
when in draft process and then pre COVID Michigan, he
was very standoffish and just like wouldn't let you close.
It was almost like pulling teeth just to talk with him.
(06:30):
He was rigid against you. He came with a rigidness
in the conversation that wouldn't allow really any communication. Yeah,
and after the COVID year, they struggle. He comes back
on remember that restructured deal at Michigan. And he comes
back and in twenty twenty one he came out and
(06:52):
like sat for a production meeting with us for forty minutes,
and I was like, what is happening right now?
Speaker 3 (06:59):
I couldn't believe it.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Honest to god, this is exactly what was going on,
and he was a totally different person, and he was
open and he was authentic, and he talked about things
that he struggled with and things that he loved about
his team. And it started to become very obvious to
me that what Jim did post COVID.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
Wasn't about football. It was about people.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
And he became much more of a people person, even
with all of his quirks, but what never left him
was the foundational things that he believed in from a
football perspective. I think we're going to see the best
version of Jim Harbaugh that we've ever seen now with
the Chargers, I don't think there's any doubt that they're
(07:44):
going to have success. I think that they're ultimately going
to win a Super Bowl because they've got the coach
and the quarterback to do it. Maybe not this year,
I'm not sure, but at some point with that combination,
I think that they're going to win a Super Bowl.
And one of the things I would just go a
little bit deeper, and I know, like a little backstory
in this interim coach at Michigan right now, Biff Pogi, Yeah,
Biff is I don't want to say a character, but
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he is a guy that rose through the ranks as
a high school football coach in Baltimore. And if you've
read it, I think that it's great. And if you haven't,
there is a book called A Season of Life and
it features Biff as a high school football coach and
he was a coach with an old Baltimore colt named
Joe Erman. And these two were great high school football
(08:28):
coaches together, and yet they didn't really focus on football.
They focused on people and loving on the players and
telling the players that they loved them. Well, Biff's son
ends up walking on at Michigan and then Jim hired
Biff to come on in twenty twenty one. And one
of the things that they did is they would meet
multiple times a day and Jim would say like, Hey,
this is how I'm feeling, Biff, I really love the
(08:49):
way the kids practice, Like I love that, and Biff
would be like, tell them, tell them authentically from your
heart and Biff and those meetings changed Jim Harbaugh into
a player's coach with football foundation principles that would win.
And so those kids loved him because he told them
that he loved them.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
So it's a long answer to a very simple question.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
I dealt with two very different Jim Harbaughs, and the
one that's coaching right now with the Chargers, I think
will win a Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
So Jane Maia have the.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Last year for USC. I had friends ask me what
do you think about USC this year? And I said,
I really like the roster. I don't know about the quarterback.
He just lets go of that ball in half the time.
I'm not sure he knows where it's going. If you
doubt Lincoln Riley's coaching, you have not seen this kid play.
He's like not just hardball. He's a different player. Throws
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the ball away, dirts it, tucks it in Like I
don't know what they did. But if your quarterback's as
good as this kid is, and their defensive line for
the first time since Pete Carroll is big and deep,
like they spent nil money on their d line up players,
you think I'm crazy, but you take away that goofy touchdown.
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The refs butchered last week winning road games last year,
Like I don't know. I look at this quarterback and
I'm like, oh, that feels like a playoff team. Well,
I mean field like a playoff team. I felt like
I was trying to talk to you into this last week,
and I feel like you've come around on kind of
the blueprint that Lincoln Riley used to be successful at Oklahoma,
and I feel like USC is following more of that
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blueprint this year. They've run it a lot better. Even
though jade Miova, as you have said, has been terrific.
I think it's one of the more underrated teams in
the country personally right now. I think that their game
this weekend against Michigan State is a perfect opportunity to
beat what I think is a decent team, and then
they're going to have a monster game against Illinois, which
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is going to be kind of a coming out party
for my Ava and this entire program as a re
emergence as a power. They are good on defense, I
don't know how great they are, but offensively, they're doing
the right things. Again, They're running the football with effectiveness
and power. My Ava has been one of the best
quarterbacks in the country. In fact, on Wednesday's podcast, I
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broke down and I said, Okay, this was my before
the year top ten quarterbacks. Well this is the top
ten quarterbacks. How they've performed this season. He's on it.
He's on it. He's been one of the ten best
quarterbacks in the country easily statistically and in tangible intangible.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
So I'm a believer in USC.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
I don't know how far they're goal they're going to
go this year, but I will tell you this, I
wouldn't want to play them because they're a scary team
right now.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
There's too much balance.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
Yeah, so Brian Kelly pushedback on the media a little bit,
and Brian's lush back is putting it lightly. Yeah, he
had like a meltdown.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
Yeah, he had a meltdown.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
And he had meltdowns for years at Notre Dame with
his quarterbacks, and he's just one of those guys. Got
a little bit of the Jim Mora. We know he
can coach. He's very intense, he can be rough on quarterbacks.
But I always thought more could coach, and I think
Brian Kelly's already good coach. And here, let's just play
the tape. Do we have the Brian Kelly tape of
kind of melting down this way?
Speaker 3 (12:06):
Here it is you're.
Speaker 6 (12:08):
Micro, You're looking at this from the wrong perspective. LSU
won the football game won the game. I don't know
what you want from me. What do you want? You
want to win seventy to nothing against Florida to keep
you happy.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
There's no ridiculous questions.
Speaker 6 (12:25):
And I'm getting tired of it. That football team just
work their tail off to get an SEC win. And
you want to know what's wrong? You know what, You're spoiled.
You're spoiled.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
That's not great. But well you don't like that, no,
I mean, so where are we You're such a media member. Oh,
I'm not being precious. It's a little over the top.
But these college coaches, they run their states, they run
the university to the highest paid employee, but also hold
on timeout timeout, But remember who they represent, you see,
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I I agree if an NFL coach did that, I
would feel very differently than I do about a college
coach doing this because and I told you this last
week with Sark. Sark wasn't talking to the media when
he defended Arch. He was talking to Arch. Brian is
talking to his locker room. He's defending his group of guys.
He's building culture through the media, and the media don't.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
Even realize it.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
They're too narcissistic and they pump their own tires and
think they're so important that they have to get the
right answer from Brian Kelly. But Brian Kelly doesn't care
what they want to hear. And to be honest, I
will say this. I know people disagree with me on this.
I also think it's a stupid question, like, really, after
that game you get five interceptions?
Speaker 3 (13:42):
Your defense is fixed?
Speaker 1 (13:44):
Like they their defense was a problem last year and
their defense has been excellent so far this year. And
the first question is what's wrong with your offense? This
is the same type of questions Ryan Day gets at
Ohio State. It's like a media that is so self entitled.
And i'll borrow a term from him, spoil that the
answers don't The answers aren't intended to make the media
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feel better or feel smarter. The answers are intended to
build the locker room and protect the locker room. And
that's what I appreciate about college coaches, because they've got
to be more aware than that. They don't have, you know,
grown men in their locker room. They have young men
in their locker room, and so they're more aware of
culture and in more times than not, they'll be talking
to their team through the media.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
I think that's what he did.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
And he runs a little hot, so he got that
question and he's like, come on, like really he does run.
I like him, but he runs hot. So you know,
Caleb struggling in Chicago, and you covered him about it
at SCAH And I had an NFL GM tell me this.
I said, I don't care about the fingernails. I don't
care about jumping in the crowd.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
I said.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
The only time I saw him that bothered me. He
played at Oregon State his first year and he got
really poudy and moody on the sidelines and he kind
of like went into his shell. And I said, that's bad.
I'm like, dude, welcome, you know, welcome to big time
college football. You lose games and have really bad halves.
But but the GM told me, he said, kind of
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moody can be kind of aloof a little odd. That's
not you know, quarterbacks tend to there's a reason the
Mannings all work right, Like Eli and Archie and Peyton.
It's like business first, go in good teammate betterly. It's
like like, and I guess my take is you covered
him a lot. Did you ever think it would look
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like this in the pros because it's rough.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
Well let's let's let's break it down.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
I think multiple personalities can win Super Bowls at the
quarterback position, and that's been proven out. So it's not
about the personality. And I would push back on you.
I think you focus too much on the personality then
you do the foundational aspects of quarterback play.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
Here's what I mean.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
The issues that USC had offensively with Caleb in particular
late was that he would not play in the confines
of the offense exactly, and because of that, the offense
never went to a place that it could go. So
let me put it to you in another analogy. If
you're going to take math during the course of your
high school or college, like, there are prerequisites to get
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to the higher levels. You've got to pass algebra one
before you can go out to algebra two, and you
got to go to geometry and do all that before
you can ever get to calculus, and so on and
so forth. The issue with Caleb right now is that
he struggles with algebra one and wants to play calculus
all the time, and there's foundational things that he has
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to be a part of.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
He's got to play.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
On time, and the ball has to go to the
right spot in the right timing more often than it does.
Right now, he's constantly looking for plays that aren't there.
He won't take things that are there right away what
the defense is trying to give them. You have to
play on time and on target. And so for me,
it's a floor issue. He's not doing the prerequisites, the
floor of what he needs to do at quarterback, and
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he constantly wants to go up to the top of
his talent. And you can't go there and impact the
game unless you've done these things first. So it doesn't matter. Actually,
the personality you can be aloof. You can yell at guys,
you can love on guys, you can wear your hat backwards,
you can wear your hat forwards. You can be a partier,
you can be a stay at home guy. But the
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prerequisite is is that your floor has to pass the
minimum bar of the offense's constraints in order for your
offense to operate well. And he doesn't do that right now.
By the way, finally Belichick faces UCF. Nobody watched him
after the opener because they just literally nobody's watching the
games after the first game. What's Belichick done UCF. I
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think it's undefeated. I think that's the team he plays next.
Let me ask you for those who stop paying attention
after the debacle, has anything gotten better at Carolina for Belichick?
Speaker 2 (17:59):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (17:59):
Yeah, the basics.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
They're blocking better, they're staying on blocks longer, they're getting
off blocks quicker. On defense, they're aligned quicker, they're aligned more. Foundationally,
they don't turn the football over. So they're not a
good or great team yet, but they are clean. They're
cleaner than what they played against TCU early. And to
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expect that team to play clean with seventy new players
and a new coach probably was an unrealistic expectation from
all of us looking at Bill Belichick and U and C.
But every single week they get a little bit better
with the things that they can control. There's an old
adage in coaching is that the only thing you have
one hundred percent control over is your own effort level
and details within the system, and taking care of those
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details fall under effort level.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
And what I.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
See as a team that is just cleaner from the
effort and detail of the way that they're playing. Okay,
I'll ask you this question. So I there's a line
out there that therapists often use. Not that I've ever
needed one better, no, not that you've heard this one, no, no, no,
But it is your responsibility to heal the pain others
inflict on you. So the bottom line is, get over
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yourself and get over it. It's still your job. No
matter how mean somebody is, how awful they are to you,
it's still your responsibility to heal pain inflicted by others.
So when quarterbacks are criticized, I'm for it because I
think the best quarterbacks in this league all had turbulence. Yeah,
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and arch Manning's life is Brownie james life. What nice
road do I get to take to my school today?
It's like those are great lives. I'm not jealous. I
don't envy it, but I think Brownie James should have
stayed in college one more year. I think Arch Manning actually,
this is the greatest thing that's ever happened to him.
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It's real turbulence. Texas football receivers are hurt. On his
third string running back new on line, his mechanics are weird.
I'm going to argue this is essential if you can
make it on Sundays. Well, you don't develop in life
without turbulence. I mean, I don't think it's even just
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a specific to quarterback play. I think all of us
at people need trials and tribulations in order to develop perseverance.
I mean, that's a biblical truth that I believe in, right,
so it absolutely applies to ars. And what a quarterback
has to have that's maybe bigger and more substantial than others,
is that they have to have a complete belief and
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self identity that is rooted in things that don't get
impacted from the outside. So you're not trying to prove
anything to anyone because you're comfortable with who you are
and you're not defined by anybody because you're comfortable with
who you are. And that's a learned trait and that
comes with maturity and certainly experience. At a position like that,
Arch's mechanics are not great right now. He's playing faster
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than the timing of the offense. That's an offense that
is is kind of an old school not old school.
They have West Coast offense tentacles, and in the West
Coast system, from a football perspective, they go by the
equation timing plus plate spacing equals completions. Well, if you're
not getting completions, one of those two variables is off
the timing or the spacing. I watched the film, and
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I think Arch is ahead of the spacing. Therefore he's rushing.
Therefore the ball tends to I would say, nose dive
and be low or away from wide receivers. He's overstriding.
As soon as he can unlock the timing piece of
the way that he plays and marry it to the
spacing of what they're trying to create on the outside,
that's when the completions and the success will start to come.
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Joel Clapp Utah game this weekend. I'll take the utes
to beautiful Stadium great, beautiful Salt Lake is great. I
can't wait to get out there. It's always a great environment. Yep,
see it, buddy, appreciate you, Bud.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
Have it going. Yeah. Yeah. The Harball stuff is.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
It really is fascinating that Joel saying basically there were
two hardballs. There was pre and host And we've had
Harbaugh on twice three times since he's been the Chargers coach.
He'll just talk for fifteen minutes. He'll stay on I'm
like fifteen minutes into the interview, he's like, you got
any more cartions, Like he's letting people into his life.
I don't know, you know, is that his wife or
whatever it is, whatever it is, I'd no idea. But
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Jim is much more uh, much more willing to give
of himself and and you know when you do that,
people give back. He's he's more fun to be around.
I asked Dean Spanos, the owner of the Chargers, a
year ago, I said, how is he in the building.
He's like unbelievable. He's just like unbelievable, and that that
wasn't always the issue. I mean he Michigan was his
alma mater, and you remember year two, three four of Michigan.
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There was like, yeah, Jim's kind of intense. I don't
know if this.
Speaker 5 (22:43):
Is going to work.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
And it's like Chargers Spanos family is like now he's unbelievable.
Everybody loves him. He's like he's like boy scouting there
like just perfect attendance, rooting for everybody else. So, I mean, people,
people change, they lighten up, they chill out.
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Speaker 1 (23:40):
So Joel Klaff made a point Mark Sanchez. Next hour,
Joel said, Colin, you kind of lean into personality too
much with quarterback.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
And my take is I have a you.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
Know, like a little media company I have called the Volume,
and I don't look at resumes.
Speaker 3 (23:53):
I've never looked at the resume. I don't care where
you went to college.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
I'm looking for people who have a skill and who
have the kind of personality they can work with others.
So I do look at personality when I'm hiring people.
Is you have to have a skill. I don't care
what your resume says. I don't care you went too pen,
I don't care. Do you have a skill that the
company can use. Your resume is not going to help you.
And do you have the kind of personality that you
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can work well with others, because in our business you
have to work with a lot of people, sometimes temperamental podcasters.
And so my takeaway is the Super Bowl has a
lot of different quarterbacks. You can be tall, you can
be short, you can run, you can be pocket. There's
a lot of different styles, shapes and sizes, but most
of the personalities are the same. Obsessed, mature, intense leaders,
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comfortable with discomfort. Brady and Mahomes they're very comfortable being uncomfortable,
And so I do think the personalities they do matter.
Green Bay moved off Aaron Rodgers they got tired of
his personality. Cleveland moved off Baker same reason, and that
doesn't I've said Baker's personality fits better in Tampa. Todd
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Bowles high IQ, high EQ, totally chill, Hugh Jackson, Greg Williams,
A lot.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
There's a lot.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
Doesn't mean they're bad guys, but there was a lot
and a lot of ego and it felt like sometimes
you know, there's an old saying spot it.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
You got it.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
Somebody with an ego is often offended very quickly by
somebody else with an ego. Todd Bowles just everything rolls off.
He kind of leans into Baker. He loves him and
lets Baker be Baker. So my point is, I think
personality matters for that position in my life of having
to hire people, personality matters. Can you get along with others?
I'm not a resume watcher, you know I'm not. That
doesn't I don't. I don't care why you.
Speaker 3 (25:45):
Went to school. It doesn't.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
It doesn't mean anything to me. I sometimes like somebody
who's had a harder path. So I do think with
arch Manning, it has been. It has been in the
backseat of a nice car getting driven to school until
he was like sixteen and had his license. Like it's
it's a pretty comfortable life. Ronnie James, I got nothing
against it. I don't resent it. But I think if
you look at the history at quarterbacks in this league, transferred,
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beat up, hurt, bad coaching, it is a It is
a There is something to be said about struggling in college,
being doubted, being mocked, being hurt, and overcoming it that
has incredible value Jmack with the news.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
No, no turn on the news. This is the herd
Line news.
Speaker 8 (26:28):
All right, con let's start with the Packers two and zero. Obviously,
they are the best team in the league. They had
jumped the Eagles as the NFC's best bet to win
the Super Bowl plus six point fifty. I would not
recommend buying that there was better value. Two weeks ago
in limited action, Michael Parsons has left his mark, and
Jordan Love talked about what he's seen from his new
toomate teammate on the Rich Eisenschip.
Speaker 9 (26:51):
Michael Parsons, He's by far one of the most competitive
people I've met my life, and just I think that
competitive nature is what he brings. Like you said, he's
he's aching to be able to get off that snapcount
and go out there and play a full game. So
he's asian to just go out there and be on
the field as much as possible. But just being around him,
I know what type.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
Of competitive he is.
Speaker 9 (27:11):
He wants to win everything he does, and I think
that's just a little mindset that he's bringing to the
team obviously to that room, and it's just like I said,
it's the effectious energy.
Speaker 5 (27:23):
Yeah, you have me to make a case for the
Browns here, Yeah, please do so. Both Green Bay games.
Speaker 8 (27:29):
Were at home, obviously against teams that you know, yeah,
very motivated to play against. Now you step down in class,
go to Cleveland. Yep, right, yeah, some extra time off
the media heard Hierarchy has the number one.
Speaker 5 (27:42):
You know, we're the bass.
Speaker 8 (27:43):
We're gassed up, you know, puffing your chest out.
Speaker 5 (27:45):
And you let your guard down a little bit.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
Yeah, due number.
Speaker 8 (27:48):
The offensive line had a couple injuries against Washington.
Speaker 5 (27:51):
I think two guys were out.
Speaker 8 (27:52):
Now you gotta face Miles Garrett, not the easiest task
in the world. Jayden Reid is out for what like
seven weeks or something with the collarbone, so there are
some issues easy to overlook. I think we'll see this
line tick down just a little bit. I still think
the Packers win, but I don't think it's like a
thirty four to nothing rump.
Speaker 6 (28:09):
No.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
I think your point is when you face Jaden Daniels,
when you open with Detroit, you're at home. Big TV games,
standalone games. I mean they came in hot and by
the way, Jordan Love, Matt Lafleur, the receiving corps. These
guys have all been playing together, so Green Bay was
sort of a head I mean even though the youngest team,
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mostly your Craft, had been there. This is his second year.
So you have this young, cohesive team. Offensive teams, clever coaching, cash,
defensive teams or defenses off guard. I think it's one
of your I think it's a really smart play at
Cleveland's the side to me?
Speaker 5 (28:46):
Absolutely, you want me to add something. I just looked
at the schedule while you were talking.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
Who's next?
Speaker 5 (28:50):
You want to take a guess. Vikings at Dallas?
Speaker 8 (28:54):
Okay, Mikah Carsons, you think he's maybe overlooking this game,
just a little bit extra motivated for the trip to
Dallas next week, Colin. That I mean again, I'm not
saying that the Browns are gonna win. They're not better,
but you know how the NFL works, right, Browns just
got smoke. What was it, forty one to ten against
the Ravens, and.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
By if you go look at the box score that game,
the Browns out gain them.
Speaker 5 (29:17):
They did.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
Yeah, so it's like Cleveland's picking up yards. If Flacco's
your quarterback, you will move the ball.
Speaker 5 (29:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (29:25):
Next up, Miami Dolphins, Colin Miami. Oh my gosh, they
are reeling. They are zero to two. Listen, we talked
about it yesterday. This could be the final game for
McDaniel playing Thursday and then on Monday Night football. Josh
Allen has dominated Miami Are you ready for this?
Speaker 5 (29:41):
Thirteen and two.
Speaker 8 (29:43):
With a total of forty five touchdowns. And then Tua
yesterday talked about this. I don't understand why he would
say it, but here we go.
Speaker 10 (29:51):
Dude, he's he's top tier. You know, if it's not
with his arm, it's with his legs. You know that
dude can do nearly anything he wants. So definitely different
skill set for me. I can't do half of what
he does when it comes to running the ball and
any of that. And then with how he can just
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chuck a ball down the field, you know, with how
far and the arm strength that he has, you know,
he's supreme when it comes to that.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
So it's gonna be fun.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
I think he's completely honest and self aware, like they're
different players totally.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
I mean Tom Brady can't move like Mahomes or Lamar
and has joked about it when he was playing for years,
Like Tua knows what he is, he's not. I have
a bigger problem when quarterbacks have a greater sense of
their athletic ability and think they can scramble and it's like, okay,
you can do that if you're Lamar, but you can't
do that for ninety percent of the guys in the league.
Speaker 3 (30:46):
Two and knows what he is. He also knows what
he isn't.
Speaker 5 (30:49):
Hill's twelve and a half.
Speaker 8 (30:50):
Is this a you know, put the mortgage on it
kind of deal?
Speaker 1 (30:53):
Just all the bills are heavily favored, they come off
a blowout when Miami is desperate. Desperate teams actually play
over their skis. Also, they know the personnel they play
them every year twice. I would say Miami feels like
a better bet, and the weather isn't brutal yet. So
my take is Miami's probably the play.
Speaker 5 (31:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (31:13):
I made the case for them last week against Patriots,
and I liked the Dolphins and for them to be
unable to stop that offense was a little scary given
up thirty three points. They were outplayed on special teams.
I don't know where they're good. Feels like the last
Dand for mister McDaniel, final story, Colin is Sunday on Fox,
We've got a clash of the undefeated teams, rematch of
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the NFC Divisional Round Rams Eagles in Philadelphia.
Speaker 5 (31:40):
Sean McVeigh is injured.
Speaker 8 (31:42):
I think you joked about this yesterday, but he was
hurt during their victory.
Speaker 5 (31:45):
Yes, a coach injured.
Speaker 11 (31:49):
I did tear my planner fascist so no, yeah, well
that's a good thing because now I guess it allows
you to heal a little bit faster. But you know,
I was being dramatic limping around towards the end of
the game. But you know, the the MRI confirmed I
did that. But good news is I'm not playing, so
I'm just on the sidelines watching.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
He is such a good coach.
Speaker 5 (32:09):
Like that guy.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
He is so good from the opening press conference on
he is such a good coach.
Speaker 8 (32:14):
I got some troubling numbers on the Eagles, so I'll
ask you if I like them.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
By the way, the Rams plus three and a half.
It's my second favorite bet on the board this.
Speaker 5 (32:21):
Week, and if you wait too long, that's going to
be gone. It'll be free. But who has the better offense?
Speaker 3 (32:25):
Colin?
Speaker 5 (32:26):
Going into this game, I.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
Believe offenses start, you know, with your offensive line so
and by the way, when the Rams is healthy, it's good.
But the Eagles O line kind of changes games now.
Stafford throwing it, receiving corps. Davante Adams now is a
real thing. Phoka Nakua. This Jordan Whittingham kid, the second
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year player around of Texas is like productive.
Speaker 3 (32:54):
Their running back room is good.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
The Rams have a lot of depth, but I don't
think toe to tow offensive liner Saquon Kiren's good.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
He's not Saquon So.
Speaker 8 (33:04):
The Eagles through two games have the fewest plays in
the league of fifteen yards or more. They only have five.
That's it against Dallas and the Chiefs.
Speaker 5 (33:16):
Colin.
Speaker 8 (33:16):
They don't look explosive. I mean, you're trying to get
aj Brown traded here. By the way, Eagles fans are
not happy with you for that. I'm sure you're aware
or don't care, but I just I don't see the explosiveness.
Saquon Barkley can't get LuSE he's.
Speaker 5 (33:29):
Like three and a half yards of carry or whatever.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
I think.
Speaker 5 (33:33):
I'm with you.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
I like the Rams here, yeah, I mean, Pouka is
off to a great start.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
You know.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
The Davante Adams acquisition, like you know, people just kind
of forgot about him. Yeah, I mean three years ago
we were saying he was the third or fourth best
receiver in the league. And he's not noticeably slower. So,
I mean, the one thing about the Rams, they have
drafted exceptionally well on defense. They've had a few misses
(34:01):
on offense. But if you look at pooka fifth round
and then Tygler Higgby, the Higgby the tight ends a
middle round guy, and then Kyron Williams was a fourth
or a fifth round guy, and their left tackle is
undrafted and Stafford is one of the oldest quarterbacks in
the league. They haven't drafted as well offensively. Jordan Winningham
(34:24):
wide receiver who has pop now sixth rounder out of Texas.
McVeigh polls more talent is there a team in the league.
I mean Saquon was great, you know, a J Brown, great,
Davonte Smith. Those are Heisman winners and first round guys.
You start looking at the Rams offense. Outside of Stafford,
who again is older, there are a lot of mid
(34:44):
round guys crushing They have drafted high with defense and
hit on them. A lot of it is mcveigh's magic. Offensively,
there's a lot of fourth and fifth and sixth round
guys doing great things with the Rams on offense.
Speaker 8 (34:57):
Remember how bad the Cowboys were picking on the the
Eagles second cornerback. Remember they don't have a number two cornerback,
so either Pooka or DeVante's in line for a big game.
And by the way, you're you've been hyping up the
Rams defense. That was spot on. This will be the
toughest defense Eagles have faced in a while. Okay, probably
since last year's playoff game.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
No, it's it's the real deal. Between Green Bay's offense
and the Rams defense, both are unbelievable. And you're not
really paying anybody. I mean, Jordan Love makes good money,
one of their guards does. And on the defensive side,
they you know, they pay us safety a little money.
But the Rams defense and the Packers offense, it's just drafting. Well,
(35:37):
they've just hit on seven or eight really really good players.
Speaker 3 (35:41):
J McK with a new Well.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
That's the news, and thanks for stopping by the herd
line news.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
Even Cooper cut was a third round pick. It's just
every they just it's just working. Magic McVeigh has worked
as Magic was second, third, fourth, fifth, sixth round guys
drafted on that offense.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
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Speaker 1 (36:26):
Yeah, I was thinking about I saw this rating. Fox
got a thirty four million people watch the Chiefs and
the Eagles. Baseball has done a great job making changes.
They've all worked speeding up the game ten percent attendance increase,
ten percent ratings increase, created more events. But I was
telling the staff this morning, baseball still needs to make
(36:46):
one big move and eliminate forty games, play one hundred
and twenty games. It's not going to take that long
to figure out the Dodgers are better than the Twins.
You don't need one hundred and sixty games, you really don't,
and then you'd start playoffs in like late August because
playoffs starting, you know, late September, early October. I mean,
look at the crowds for football. There's so much momentum
(37:07):
now you forget baseball's being played. I watched Sports Center
in the morning. I get on the treadmill, I watch it,
but it's like my mind immediately goes to football. Once
you get like to the second week of the NFL,
it's hard to go back with other sports. And the
NFL is done. Some of it's just circumstantial. It's like
it feels like every other league is kind of fighting
(37:29):
uphill by the twenty first century viewing habits of Americans
except the NFL and the World Cup, where it's like
they're big events. Every NFL weekend feels like a big event.
Every early window on red Zone, I'm sitting there like
I can't wait, counting down into a big event Monday
through Friday. Sports, hockey, baseball, basketball, There's too many games.
(37:51):
They They are increasingly international. You know, the NFL is
domestic is it is flag waving and the world really
moved into a global is a period. Now it's moving
back pivoting to a nationalistic nationalism is on the rise
in Europe and in America and waving the flag. I'm
sorry it's back in, but these numbers are I mean,
(38:14):
baseball's fighting an uphill battle. If you're going to start
the playoffs in late September or October, good luck. Because
college football, when it gets into week four and you
get into conference play, those saturdays are big. Those numbers
go up. I'm watching the college and the Pro football
numbers World Series to start October twenty fourth. You also
(38:35):
have rainouts that can push it into November. Well that's
football season. So NBA's back at that point. So I
think baseball's done a good job. But you're asking me
if I can make a change, and they've made several
lop off forty games twenty per ower, like start two
weeks later, get out of the rain outs, and then
end a month sooner. You got to get some momentum
(38:58):
by Labor Day weekend because it's just really easy to
forget about it. Okay, NFL Week three, here are the games, Jmac.
I think you and I last week we were aligned
on a lot, although I kicked myself not taking Arizona
against the Panthers, and then the Panthers had a back
door cover, But I do think I like the Rams
(39:21):
plus the points against Philadelphia, a team that's not throwing
the ball down the field. I think Cleveland's actually the
play against Green Bay, not to win the game, but points.
The game that I find fascinating is Dallas, who has
looked way better than expected in Chicago that hasn't That
game now is virtually a pick them, and Chicago's not
(39:42):
ever been a great home field advantage. The weather is
still good. That line is puzzling. I have a hard
time talking myself into the Bears over the Cowboys both weekends.
For both weekends I've watched out the Thursday night game,
excuse me, and last weekend. The offense is humming. There
are more weapons that I thought. George Pickens has been nice.
(40:05):
Jamont Hey Williams, the running back, has found creases. They
don't make a lot of mistakes. Their clock management's been better.
I don't find a lot of things I don't like
about Dallas. In fact, I said yesterday Dallas is my
surprise team in the league. They are significantly better than
I thought. Can you sell me on the Bears.
Speaker 8 (40:25):
That's a tough one, man. I don't have a strong
opinion who's winning that game? It feels like a toss up, right,
I mean the Bears have played two playoff teams from
a year ago, right, Vikings and Lions, so like they've
they've actually faced tough defenses. I don't know that the
Cowboys defense is that good. I'm looking at your Seahawks.
I know you're in the Northwest Seahawks Saints. How does
(40:47):
Spencer Rattler, remember he's had two games at home. How
does he go on the road and do anything against
the defense that bottle up Aaron Rodgers In that second half?
Seattle outscored them twenty four to three in the second half.
Speaker 5 (40:56):
Yeah, why doesn't Seattle just pick their number and destroy
the same here?
Speaker 3 (41:01):
Oh well, I like Seattle. That's a good guy.
Speaker 5 (41:03):
Does that feel like a layup or.
Speaker 3 (41:05):
There are no layups?
Speaker 1 (41:07):
But I would say you're on the right track, which
is I think Seattle's defense I mean bottled up brock
Party and last week mostly bottled up Aaron Rodgers. I
think at home, getting a little chilly in the Northwest,
they'll bottle up Spencer Ratler. Hour three
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