October 3, 2025 • 41 mins
Another edition of Colin’s must-hear Blazin’ 5 NFL picks for Week 5 — his top five best bets against the spread.
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Speaker 1 (00:26):
Oh here we go, Hour two and of Friday first
hour flew by Yankees. Moving on, Oh Canada, You're in trouble, jamac.
The last couple of weeks been a little turbulent for
your picks. I went four and three.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Last week with the Alabama game.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Puts me over the edge college. I've done some over
unders this year because the audience is doing that. I
almost did a pop this week on over under for
a receiver I did. I did an over under on
CD LAMB catches earlier that year. So the reason I
people say, why don't you just make picks, because that's
not what people are doing anymore. People are doing props,
they're doing over unders, and so I've always said, audience
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drives the bus. I watched the percentage of picks people make,
and I've got another over under. We hit it last week.
We told you last week take the Patriots Panthers over,
and I got another one this week. So you're ready
to go.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Let's fire away.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Here's my blazing five.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Let's blaze it up, it up. It's Collins blazing fuck
Raiders and Colts.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
I like the Colts at home to win and cover.
First of all, they lead the NFL in yards per play.
That's a big stat for the wise guys, six point five.
An incredibly efficient offense that scores on sixty six percent
of the drives. O line gives a run game in
Daniel Jones plenty of space. In fact, in two home
starts this year, he's completing seventy one and a half
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percent of his throats. The Raiders are beat up, tied
for the most giveaways in the league, twenty second rank defense.
They're now missing their left tackle, Colton Miller, who's their
best offensive lineman. So I think right now I get
a better all line, significantly a better consistent run game.
I think the Colts are really really talented. I've been
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saying this for years. I think they're going to run
away now with this division twenty eight to twenty Colts
win it won't feel this close. They win and cover
the spread. Cowboys and Jets. I like the Jets when
the numbers plus three. Three of their four losses have
come in one score games, and when justin fields plays,
they average twenty seven a game and almost four hundred yards.
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The Cowboys are beat up, seventeen players on the injured list,
a lot of guys in the secondary, in the old line,
and it wasn't a good pass blocking unit when they
were healthy. They've allowed thirty plus points has Dallas in
three straight games. Probably the worst defense in the league.
They're bad on third down, they're bad on the back end,
and they're all beat up. And they've also allowed a
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ton of big plays and with those legs can create those.
I think the Jets at home healthier win twenty eight,
twenty seven, take the points.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Broncos at Eagles.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
I'm taking the Hulk. Denver plus three and a half
the side I'm on. Sean Payton ranks second in October
win percentage in the Super Bowl era, behind only John Madden.
Both losses for Denver this year have come on game
winning field goals as time expired. Best team in the
league is Denver at getting to the quarterback and protecting
the quarterback. Really good offensive line in Denver, and their
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defense is tied with Seattle. It's only given up sixteen
a game. I think this roster is outstanding. Eagles have
been outgained in all four games. Now you got aj
Brown drama. The offense is thirtieth ranked. That means the
coordinator does not fit and they're not getting to the
quarterback this year. They've only got five sacks in four games.
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So this team is kind of not right now, working
on all cylinders. Maybe if it's a three point spread, no,
but at three and a half, I'm gonna take Denver
to win close, low scoring game twenty four to twenty three.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Bucking Ears at Seahawks.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
I like Seattle here, second best point differential in the NFL.
They're great at home, second least penalized team. They don't
beat themselves. Sam Darnold is having himself a year and
he's not as reckless as he used to be. I
can like Baker, though has nine turnover worthy plays this year.
TFF said that's tied for the most in the NFL.
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And Tampa is in too many close games. They make
more mistakes. Also, Tampa's got sixteen players on the injured list,
so Seattle is healthier. They're at home, they're less penalized.
I like him here. Tampa's defense is beat up last
couple of weeks, does not feel as dominant. I'm gonna
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take the Seahawks the three to win and cover twenty
eight to twenty three.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Titans and Cardinals.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
I like the over forty one and a half. Neither
team pressures the quarterback, so cam Ward and Kyler are
going to have time to operate. Cardinals also coming off
extra rest, They're at home where there can be feisty,
and I think they're gonna win this game, potentially by blowout.
Listen to Titans that faced four pretty good defenses Broncos, Rams, Colts, Texans,
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so this is a little bit of a breather. It
won't be as dominant a defense. And again unrest Arizona.
Skilled people are outstanding defense for the Titans, not great.
Don't get to the quarterback. Their defense doesn't do anything
particularly well. The overs forty one and a half, it's
a low number. I think we have a blowout on
the horizon. Cardinals win at thirty one to thirteen. Take
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the over in this game. And with that, Julian Edelman
is now joining US Live Fox Sports analysts, and we
appreciate that. On a Friday, came about last night. I
can remember this year's ago. I always thought fumbles, Julian,
were random, but they were except for the Patriots, which
a team that didn't fumble. So I'm watching that game
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last night. Blake krum Kyron Williams had five fumbles last
year and like ball Security, Matt Stafford had one of
the best nights he's had as a pro and they
lose at home, much healthier team. What did New England
do all those years, because after seven or eight years,
are not fumbling, it's not luck. Did the Patriots just
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concentrate on it more?
Speaker 4 (06:34):
Yeah, you know, we used to have them auto ball securities,
job security, and Bill would literally witch. I'm sure right
now North Carolinas here in the same pitch. If you
carry the ball in your hands, you're carrying the fate
of the whole organization in your hand, from Nancy Myers upstairs,
to the marketing department, to the guys in New Hampshire
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that are rooting for the team. That's how important the
ball was. And we would start off every day practice.
After our warm up, we would do a ball security
drill where we'd sit there and we'd have you know,
you run down fifty three yards and back with the
guy on the back of you trying to take the
ball out. You'd hold two balls and you have two
guys hitting you. We'd do the stumble bump on every
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third step. You would go down to the ground and
try to simulate when you put your hand on the
ground how vulnerable the ball is when you pull it up,
and you're always trying to get three points of three
points of contact on the ball with your forearm the
top and keeping.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
It nudged in.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
So we used to talk about it, and when you
talk about it, you subconsciously think about it. We would
also have cutups of that defense that we were playing
that specific week, a thirty play cutup of if they
were a ball hawking team. You know, I vividly remember
the Ravens. They'd always come after the ball and you'd
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have Chad O'shay come up there and have thirty plays
of plays of the defense trying to get at the ball.
May not have been a fumble, but just to show
that they have that in their weap injury, so we
were very conscious about it. I could still remember like
the three times that I fumbled because it was such
an important thing.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Ball securities, job security.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
So you know, I've seen Darnold and Baker and Daniel
Jones and now Mac Jones be reborn. I was so
impressed with him last night. First of all, anytime a
player gets hurt and stays in the game, I mean
that's something because he's hurting way more than I've ever
been hurt in my life. Kendrick Bourne was his go
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to guy. What did you make a Mac Jones last night?
Speaker 4 (08:37):
He played great. I mean he threw for what three
hundred and forty two yards, two touchdowns, He's three and ozero.
This is a heck of a start for the San
Francisco forty nine ers. They've really had to overcome some adversity.
I thought it was really going to hit him hard
last night, not having Nick Bosa out there, because how
are they going to get that closed stop at the end,
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And they were able to find a way to win
the game. Kendrick Bourne and Mac Jones, they clearly have
some chemistry from New England and look, we've seen Mac
Jones play good football in New England. It was never
about him playing good football, was about how he handled
success in his body language. And he's obviously matured over
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this these last couple of years because he looks like
a different player. You can see him on off the field,
how he handles himself, with how he spoke at the
podium after the game. He's been humbled. This game humbles
you in some form of fashion, and it buries some
guys and mac Jones, you know, he's shown that he's
resurging from it.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Yeah, accurate, good velocity, back shoulder throw is really impressive.
I'm going to spend yeah, yeah, I want to talk
Drake May. I got to tell you last couple of weeks.
He doesn't make a lot of mistakes. They're not putting
a ton on his plate, but he moves.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
Well.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
What are you hearing from Rabel in New England on
Drake May? Because it looks like they found their guy.
Speaker 4 (10:03):
Yeah, I think they found a guy that they can
think can become the franchise guy. I mean it's still
super early in the evaluation process. Last week or two
weeks ago, they turn over the ball five times. He
had a couple of fumbles. He's you know he's taking
care of the ball throwing it, but you know, he
still got to win these games.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
And this is a good situation for.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
Him now because after the loss, how did he come
and show up the next week? They go on and
blow out The Panthers are a great slump busting team
to play when you're not playing very well, and he
handles them the way you should handle them. So this
is going to be the ultimate test when you got
to go play the big brother in the division who's been,
you know, embarrassing the team for the last few years.
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And it'll be really interesting to see if he could
carry over all the success he's had these last couple
weeks or last week, not taking care of the football,
making plays in the red area when you know he
has to with his legs, not over using his legs,
not getting hit too much, offensive lines playing well. I
think that they match up very well against Buffalo, but
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they're gonna have to play a mistake free game to
beat the Buffalo Bills. You can't go in there and
turn it over two times one time. They're gonna have
to play sound football. And if he can continue that,
then you look at look at Drake Man you say,
this is our guy, but he's still super early. He's
shown signs, but you can still see that Vrabel's out there.
You know, they each challenging him to be a leader.
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He wants to see more. He's still a baby. He's
still a baby. So it's been great to see some
of the success he's had, and there's been great situations.
Get lose a game you should have won, come back,
you know, ignite the offense, and play a mistake free game.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
The next week against the Panthers.
Speaker 4 (11:47):
Let's see how he rolls in against the Buffalo Bills,
because this is the ultimate measuring stick for him.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Well, it didn't happen often, but I've spent the last
week defending Aaron Rodgers. In my take is he is
the lowest credded quarterback according tof and the reason being
is he's not throwing the ball down the field. My
take is is that Aaron, and this happens in real time,
realizes his defense has been so dominant in field position
and taking the ball away that Aaron, over the course
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of a game is like, well, what's the point if
we're running it? Okay, I'm not throwing the ball down
the field. He's developed a relationship with DK Metcalf, who's
a great player but kind of an emotional guy, still
very young. And my take is, and it's nothing against
PFF or a grading system, but I do think a
quarterback part of his job is over the course of
a game, if you're watching your defense, take a part
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the other team's offense. Okay, put away some of the
erase some of the big swings down the field. And
I think people think Aaron's being conservative, might take it now,
he's being smart. There's no reason to take big swings.
What's your take on his season?
Speaker 4 (12:52):
I agree with you one thousand percent. This is what
she signed up for when you wanted Aaron Rodgers. A
guy that's going to get you in the right play.
He's going to take care of the football play situationally,
right on third down and in the red area.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
And that's what he's been doing.
Speaker 4 (13:04):
He's actually moved around a lot better than he has
in the last couple of years too. I mean two
years off the Achilles he looks great and he can
still throw the ball.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Aaron Rodgers has forgotten more.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
Football than probably seventy percent of these other quarterbacks. And
the fact that he can go out and manage the game.
The way he has shows that. I mean, it's been
really impressive. I think this is one of the biggest
surprises of the season. Yeah, and you know, you look
at him and I think they're only going to get
better because time on task together. They've only had four weeks,
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you know, they didn't have a full off season and
good quarter. I remember Tom always used to say, you know,
the older he got, he would always say, the game
gets easier because he knows the answers to the test.
It's if their body can allow them to do it,
and his body can still allow him to do it.
He understands that he doesn't need to take a big
hit on a second and ten early in the game.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
Just throw the ball away.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
He's not going to put his team in jeopardy of
throwing crazy deep balls in triple coverage because he doesn't
have to because, like you said, his defense and get
him a couple turnovers. He's playing the game the way
the Steelers kind of used to play the game with
Big Ben. When Big Ben was rallying the team, you know,
you'd have one or two big plays, but it was
always kind of a muddy game. Play to the defense,
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have a good couple special teams play the Boswell guy's
great kicker, so he's got a lot of great things
going in his favor. I'm super interested to see how
he does in these xt four weeks.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
So the Eagles aren't doing anything well offensively, and it's
obviously not personnel. So so Sirianni's not a big scheme guy.
He's more of the walk around CEO, kind of a
culture builder. So he's very reliant on his offensive coordinator.
When he had Steichen Super Bowl, he went to Brian Johnson.
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It didn't work. That he's Kellen Moore. Okay, it works,
and now he brings in a new guy. It's not
as good. So could be a coordinator thing. But my
question to you is you mostly had the same coordinator,
But from your experience in football, what's the difference between
an okay coordinator and a great coordinator. Because Philly, based
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on their offensive coordinator, has been a different offense through
the years.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Well, I was.
Speaker 4 (15:20):
Fortunate enough to play with two really good offensive coordinators,
Billy O'Brien and Josh McDaniels, which they had different wrinkles
but a lot of the same similar values.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Of how they want to call the game.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
I still think this is early in the season for
Kevin Pluto or Kevin Patullo and this offense.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
I mean, they've only been together for four games.
Speaker 4 (15:43):
Last year, at this point, we thought the you know,
the Eagles were not going to make the playoffs, whether
they won in three or two and two.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
They weren't playing good until that bye week came.
Speaker 4 (15:51):
So I still think that they're trying to figure out
their offense, what they are, and their identity this year.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
I mean, and that takes a while.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
I mean they're still four and oh they're collecting wins
and winning ball games when they're not playing their best,
so you can anticipate that they're going to figure out,
all right, well we do these things very well through
the first four weeks, we don't do this very well.
Let's scrap that, let's get to this, let's try to
kill this tendency.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
And I think that's the part of the season that
they're in.
Speaker 4 (16:21):
I think it's a little too early to say that
they're just broken on offense because there's only been four
weeks and they have four wins. You know, you have
Aj Brown, who's a talented receiver, who can make your
plays on the outside. I anticipate they'd start moving to
him around and scheming them open, because it seems like
the only rout he runs is a nine step a
nine yard stop route on the outside on third and
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long when you know it's man coverage and a lot
of these corners are now squatting on it, so you
know they're taking that away. I think a good offensive
coordinator they'll start moving aj around, trying to get them
the ball early, to get them happy, because you got
to keep them happy. I'm still kind of broken on
how to evaluate the Eagles team because last year I
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thought all the distractions were going to be a lot
and they won the Super Bowl. It seems like they're
going down that same road. But they're even better this
year than they were through the first four games than
last year. So let's just keep on watching this thing
out and see how it unfolds. I think they'll continue
to get better.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
So the Chiefs offense had been I mean like a
water pistol. They bring in Xavier Worthy, who's not a
number one. He's kind of a speed gadget guy, and
they bring him in and it looks like the best
It looks like the Tyreek Hill Chiefs offensive four or
five years ago, and I'm like, well, Worthy, he's not
a number one. He is kind of a gadget guy.
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But it does illustrate when you bring in an over
the top player, it opens up stuff for even running backs.
Well give me your experience on that. We don't look
at Worthy as as an elite Justin Jefferson or Pooka Nakua,
but it's like just inserting him changed the entire offense.
Speaker 4 (18:00):
This reminds me a lot of when we'd have a
guy like Philip dor Said or Brandon LaFell, and our
offense was cooking the most when they would make one
or two plays down the field, because it makes the
offense have to defend every blade of grass. And that's
what speed does.
Speaker 5 (18:17):
I mean.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
If you look.
Speaker 4 (18:18):
At the Kansas City Chiefs the first four weeks, they
were slow on offense, very slow. So then you can
condense the middle of the field and the production for
all the guys that eat in the middle of the
field are going to be harder to get because they
don't have anyone that threatens threatens them downfield. And that's
what he does. I mean, the speed all he's got
to do is make one play and get behind the
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defense once and it changes the whole complexity of how
that defense is going to defend them, because if they
don't want to get beat deep, they rather have Kansas
City going on a fourteen play drive and try to
make them lose in a situational battle on third down
or in the red area and collect three points. So
I think it's a huge addition to get Xavier worthy
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because the speed it opens up the offense. They're gonna
get even better when they get Rashi Rice back. Uh.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
You know this is this could be a scarier team
than they were last year.
Speaker 4 (19:09):
They're gonna have more offensive weapons this year once they
start getting their guys together.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
So I'm excited to watch them in this next four.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
Finally, you got inducted into the Patriots Hall of Fame.
Uh yeah, that's pretty cool. I mean, considering your life
where you're from. Uh take me there, What was it like?
Speaker 2 (19:31):
Yeah, it was.
Speaker 4 (19:32):
It was an absolute unbelievable honor to be on the
same stage with you know, Coach Parcells, Brabes, Stanley Morgan McGuinness,
Coach Scarr, all the guys, the former inductees, It's just
absolute honor. And you know too, to say back in
my rookie year when I was changing positions from quarterback
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to receiver, that I'd be in the Patriots Hall of Fame,
which is arguably, you know, a top top one to
two three organization. It's pretty surreal for me. It was
an unbelievable honor to have my family there, my little girl,
my brother, my sister, my parents, because it's ultimately an
award for them, uh, for them being in my corner
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through the highs and the lows. You know, football is
such a family sport. There's so many sacrifices you have
to go through if you want to be a competitive
professional athlete, and those sacrifices are saying no to you know,
your loved ones, and you're really a mercenary. And to
have people that were in my corner and understanding what
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I was trying to do in my career, you know,
helped me get through it. So it was it was
an unbelievable day. Thanks to the Craft family. They had
an awesome production and you know, it was a pretty cool,
surreal moment.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
Julian Edelman Fox NFL Kickoff Sundays on Fox it's great
seeing you man on Fox.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
Great seeing you two guys.
Speaker 4 (20:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
He joins us on FS one regularly and he's on
Fox on Sundays. Plus Games with Names is his highly
entertaining podcast. Blazing five is in the books. I will
watch games without a cause, without a nervous reaction. I
feel very strongly about my picks. J Mack has his
an hour and a half and uh Man alive that whole.
Speaker 5 (21:23):
It's scary because I like your picks a lot. Colin,
I do that Denver pick. I'm on them like I
don't know you. This could be your first five and
OL of the season. I don't know about the total.
The Titans just got shut out. Okay, the Titans are garbage.
We know that they cannot move the football, but you know,
Kalaan's fighting for his job. This is the first mediocre
defense the Titans have played, so you know, and Arizona's
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on extra arrest, and we like Arizona's offense, and Connor's
not healthy, so they'll have to throw the ball. And
I think even if the Titans get crushed, they'll throw
the ball back door it.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
Can so cam mort will keep checking.
Speaker 5 (21:58):
A quick note on the Bucks I'm waiting for the
injury of or but Bucky Irving, the stud running back,
hasn't practiced this week, so Tampa could be without Mike
Evans and Bucky Irving against a top three defense in
the league in Seattle.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
Not great for the Bucks.
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Speaker 1 (23:01):
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Speaker 5 (23:19):
We've been watching this one all week, Colin. That's the
Ravens injuries. It is bleak. John Harbaugh just spoke to
the media. Kyle Hamilton now.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
Added to the list of guys not practicing.
Speaker 5 (23:30):
I mean, goodness, gracious, you see that line Texans minus
two and a half, Colin, it was Ravens minus nine and.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
A half last week before Week four games.
Speaker 5 (23:39):
Okay, Ravens are way better, but they're down a billion guys.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
Here's Mark Andrews talking about the mindset of the team
through the injuries.
Speaker 6 (23:48):
Everybody here in this organization is Who're all fighters. You know,
we've been through adversity. We know what that looks like.
And there's no quit in this group. And I'm excited
to show the world that. The beautiful thing is that
we had a lot of fighters in this group, and
you know, a deep organization with a ton of players
that are going to step up and make plays. And
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I just got a lot of faith and trust in
the guys.
Speaker 5 (24:11):
So uh this, I mean, the screen is almost unfathomable.
You know, this is like, I don't know what ninety
percent of these guys are, yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
But pro bowlers over that level.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
But the Niners last night, same situation and they beat
McVeigh and Stafford.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
Well they had mac Jones and Kyle Shanahan. And now
you're time out.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
Cooper, I got see, I got c J. Straw. I mean, Cooper,
what you want about Cooper Rush? He had a winning
record When Mike McCarthy used Cooper Rush for a month,
Cooper Rush had a winning record.
Speaker 5 (24:41):
Yeah, that's Mike McCarthy. Really good offensive coach. I don't
know Baltimore and Max said, you do have a good
point obviously that uh you know, the Niners are beat
up and they still won. But Kause it's the defense
that scares me. Rokwan Smith, he calls all the plays defensively. Okay,
then you're back end Kyle Hamilton. They have no pass rush,
No Van Noy your a guy who comes on the show.
Their top cornerback, Wiggins is out. Humphrey who couldn't guarden
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me out of the slot right now he's down. I
mean they are in rough shape. I just on principle,
I gotta go with the Texans here under three do
you have the stomach to don't.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
Have the stomach I just when I watched the Niners
last night, I think they're in worse shape than Baltimore.
And I mean mac Jones. Nobody thought Mac joneses now
three and no Mac Jones was dead and buried in
this league, like worse than Daniel Jones. At least won
a playoff game. Mac Jones, the Jaguars had him. He's
a hometown kid. They're like not interested. So I mean,
my takeaway on this is, I wouldn't count the Ravens out.
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I watched the Niners last night. I wouldn't count him out.
Speaker 5 (25:40):
I'll just say mac Jones, you know, got to the
playoffs as a rookie with the Patriots. I know they
got smoked like forty seven to seven or whatever by
the Bills, but.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
He at least got to the playoffs.
Speaker 5 (25:49):
I mean, Cooper rush four games, simple size, He's like
a so Lamar runs around, does all these awesome things.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
Cooper's a statue. He's not mobile.
Speaker 5 (25:57):
I think you have to totally change your offense, don't you.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
Well, but they have some good pieces. They have good pieces.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
Maybe it's a Derek Henry game.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
I'm backing Willy Anderson in this one. Let's go to the.
Speaker 5 (26:07):
Next story, and that's the Great Chargers Commander's game out
here at SOFI Sunday. I will be in the building
for that one. I don't feel great about the Chargers Colin.
Big news here, Terry McLaurin has not played or practice.
He will not make the trip out west. For the
Commanders and their offense, I know they got I think
twenty seven on the Falcons with Mariota, but.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
I just I didn't see.
Speaker 5 (26:32):
It totally with Washington, they were totally different team without
mclaurin's stretching the field. Deebo Samuel obviously underneath is good
and for the Chargers, Joe All is doubtful.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
I'm just I'm staying away from Charger game.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
Yeah that's smart.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
I mean, I again, love the coach, love the quarterback, love
some of the defensive players. But if you don't, it's
like Minnesota. Now, I'm staying away from Minnesota, Cleveland. If
you're missing two and three starters in the offensive line,
you know, if your run game works at works, but
stay away time for me on Minnesota and the Chargers,
I'm just staying away from those teams.
Speaker 5 (27:04):
Let me ask you about so running quarterbacks have given
the Chargers problem.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
Jackson Dart last week was the latest.
Speaker 5 (27:10):
Do you think Jayden Daniels coming off a knee injury
in two weeks out is.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
Going to be running at all?
Speaker 4 (27:16):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
He came back.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
Remember last year he was injured.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
Again.
Speaker 5 (27:18):
We're not going glass Joe Burrow on him, but he
was banged up last year and didn't run for a bit,
and it kind of took away his superpower, which is
the Josh Allen Lamar. I could just make things happen.
I'm rooting Chargers here obviously. I think the Chargers get
it done. This is kind of a big swing game
for them that you don't want to lose two games
of Washington and the Giants back to back, because now
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the Chiefs are playing the Jags and if they win
that they're creeping back in the division.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
And here comes Denver, which played very well against Cincinnati,
and I think he has a chance to beat Philadelphia.
So this division is going to go down to the
last two or three weeks.
Speaker 5 (27:52):
Yeah, probably will. All right, let's go to baseball for
the final story.
Speaker 4 (27:55):
Calm.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
There was some.
Speaker 5 (27:56):
Controversy in the Cubs Padres game if you're watching on
the screen, you could see that pitch was definitely low
to Xander Bogart's clearly out of the strike zone. Bogarts
loses his mind. The Padres were irate. Here's Bogarts on
the terrible call.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
After the game, we talk about it now, I mean,
you know it's a balling Yeah, it's just the whole game,
you know what I mean. Can't go back in time
and talking about it now won't change anything. So it was.
Speaker 6 (28:27):
It was bad and tank golf A abs exit because
this is terrible.
Speaker 5 (28:32):
I know you're deep in the baseball right now. I'm
just curious where you are on this system, Like why
test it in spring training and not use it in
the postseason?
Speaker 2 (28:39):
What do I mean?
Speaker 1 (28:40):
Like? The pitch clock was I remember years ago being
on a flight UH and I sat next to a uh,
the Richmond Minor League baseball general manager, and they were
using the pitchclock already in the minor league for a
couple of years, so they wanted to you know, the
pitchclock was dramatic. Traditionalists hated it. Pictures, the Union and everybody,
you know, people were like, well oh wha, wha, whoa.
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So they used it in the minor league for a
couple of years. Well, now this system you're getting, you're
gonna get rid of the you know, look you look
at that system.
Speaker 7 (29:07):
Is it?
Speaker 1 (29:08):
The traditionalists, the umpires don't like it, so you want
to get things right by the way they used it
in the All Star Game. Super efficient, super quick, and
it works. So they're just I have no problem with
baseball doing due diligence here. Baseball, for the last three years,
it has made multiple changes. They've often gone to them.
One of the great advantages that baseball has over every
other sport. They have a minor league system and they
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can experiment in the minor leagues and then bring it
into the show. So it's it's you know, it's funny
about baseball. Baseball fans will say, well, oh, football only
has got one game a week. We're at a big disadvantage.
The advantage of baseball. It's every night, so you get
so emotionally invested. Like with baseball, I'm not going to
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sit and watch beginning to end regular season games. I'll
see highlights, I'll see them three innings, But like last night,
I could all day I'm sitting around waiting to watch
the Yankees and Red Sox, and I think the emotion.
I mean, here in Chicago, it's like nobody was on
the train. Everybody was home watching the Cubs, listening on radio,
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or at Wrigley Field. So I mean, my take is
Baseball's made a lot of changes over the last three
years and they've nailed all of them. So they're going
to use the minor league system. They tried it in
the All Star Game. Next year we'll have it, and
I'm I'm in a back baseball. I think they've had
a hell of a three year run.
Speaker 5 (30:27):
So this is similar to in the NFL where you
can challenge plays, and in the NBA they have this
new challenge system with the Hawkeye camera. But the padres
were so ticked off. There's video of their reaction at
the end of the game, Like, I mean, they were
losing their minds going after the officials and the umpires.
Like here they are leaving and look at the padres.
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They kind of got to be held back from going
after the umpires and listen, man.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
I understand the frustration. It's the ninth inning.
Speaker 5 (30:55):
And everyone watching, with five million people watching, can see
that it was out of the strike zone.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
Don't you want him to get it right. It's just disappointing.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
Yeah, I mean there's I think most umpires are great.
You know, I was at the Illinois USC game this
weekend and two different officials, three actually came up to
me and thanked me. That said, hey, I appreciate you always.
You have a reputation as you will defend officials. And
my take is I didn't grow up with all these
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thirty seven replays. Think about this, in a football stadium
in twenty twenty five or in a baseball park in
twenty twenty five, there's only one person who only sees
the play once, the umpire or the official. They get
at once in real speed, So everybody crushes these guys.
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These games go fast. The guys are now throwing one
oh four. It's just harder to officiate. And then you're
subject to criticism because you have fumbles last night happening
in the Rams Niners game at the bottom of a
pile and you can see it. And so I think
we all. I don't like crushing officials because first of all,
you get fans worked up and they already get tons
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of abuse. The first baseball game I ever went to
as a kid in the Kingdome. They were booing the umpires.
So they already get death threats and all this stuff.
And I think last year, you just last year Fox
during the super Bowl last year, think about this. Fox
used two hundred and forty cameras. The first Super Bowl
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had like four. We used two hundred and forty cameras.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
Doesn't that apply to your work?
Speaker 5 (32:32):
Smarter, not harder, Like, let's just bring on the bring
on the robots, bring on the cameras.
Speaker 3 (32:37):
Let's get it right.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
I would over listen to the NFL doesn't have full
time officials. If you could just use cameras and chips,
why wouldn't I wouldn't football. I don't think you can
never do that past down, No, I mean, I'm but
I think people beat up the officials. And it's like, guys,
it's a hard job that's gotten a lot harder.
Speaker 5 (32:57):
Colin eight master, Yeah, the padres worked what eight months
for this?
Speaker 3 (33:01):
They get to the ninth inning, they're down three to one.
Speaker 5 (33:03):
Runners is going position, and you get this crap, Like
I would be pissed, I'll be ticked off.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
Oh I get it.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
Jmack with the News, Well that's the.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
News and thanks for stopping by.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
It's The Herd Live, very very interesting article. So Bill
Belichick at Carolina has been nothing short of a disaster.
Like they're not competitive, They're getting blown out by average teams.
I don't think any of us thought this. I mean
not all of us thought they were gonna roll the
you know, roll through the schedule. I thought they would
lose to Clemson. But this one coach has an explanation.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
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Speaker 5 (33:51):
Big Noon is back in ann Arbor and Michigan's own
president Dae is leading the charge. The pregame party starts
at ten am Eastern. Then it's quarterback Bryce Underwood and
the Wolverines going head to head with Wisconsin at noon
Big Noon Saturday only on socks.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
So Bill Belichick assembled a very poor roster. We said
that after the first game against TCU, they just do
not many good players. So a coach, a Group five
head coach said this, they miscalculated the way they were
taking guys in the portal and paying dudes. It made
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me wonder did they actually understand the landscape they were in.
Did they understand they're in the ACC, not the Conference
USA or Sun Belt? Like, we got beat by North
Carolina a bunch of kids, And I like, why the
blank is North Carolina beating us on kids? They're recruiting
the guys we recruit. And this is a coach in
a smaller program and a smaller conference. So Belichick seventy
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three years old, basically, and I have a theory on
this number one, to get the best guys in the portal,
because Carolina had some money. To get the best guys
in the portal, you gotta kiss a lot of butt,
and you gotta work much harder. And Bill wasn't up
for it. Secondly, a little the Charlie Weiss thing when
Bill comes in thinking, maybe you know, schematically, I'm dealing
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with a bunch of ACC football coaches. We're gonna outsmart
these guys, and you know, we're gonna build a culture.
We don't need to have five star guys. I don't
know if that's true, but I will tell you one
thing that is unequivocally true. And one of the concerns
I had when Belichick and Mike Lombardi took it over.
I'm like, they're pros, they're pro guys. Charlie Weis is
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a pro guy. He's not gonna understand. He's not gonna
have that feel. He's done a butt kisser. It's kind
of that New Jersey rough personality. And that's fine, but
that's a pro personality. You have to kiss Bob, you know.
Jimmy Johnson Jim Harbaugh are one those one and two
Pete Carroll. It worked both ways. Pete's got a big personality.
Jimmy's got a big personality, and Harbaugh, you know, can
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really turn it on and off personality wise. Bill doesn't.
And I've said this for years. There's only I remember
telling Rex Ryan this one time. I said, dude, you'd
be a great college coach. You did well in the NFL.
You could do college because Rex can talk to talk.
Rex is very verbal, big emotion, good looking guy, big smile,
full of laughs. Rex Ryan would have worked in college,
but he wasn't as good as some of the other
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NFL coaches. And John Gruden to me, I would hire
him in a heartbeat in college football. Gruden again, personality
can turn on the charm. He could recruit. So Rex,
Ryan and Gruden were the two guys to me that
would always work. Mike Tomlin, I think is kind of
a dude. He'd walk in, you know, the mom would
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be impressed, the dad would think he's cool to play.
I think Mike Tomlin can work at the college level
as well, but my theory is not all He's got
Bill Parcells. In college. He'd have no time for nonsense.
Bill Parcells would spend five minutes with one booster and
be like, get me out of here. Belichick's not built
for college football. He never had any interest in it.
I love Urban Meyer. Urban's not a pro coach. I
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remember talking to Urban about this, and Urban said, I
spent my sundays watching film because I didn't watch NFL football.
And it's like, there is a sensibility in the NFL
saban perfect for college dominating personality that's not going to
work in pro football. So Bill was always a little
cranky and difficult, and you know, distract that. It feels like,
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and I think a lot of this is I mean,
you watch them against TCU and you're like, they don't
have enough players, they don't have any speed here, average quarterback,
no big speed, no great pass rushers, and I think
some of it is to get those kind of guys,
you got to turn on the charm and Bill didn't
have any interest in that. That's just not who he is.
I'm not blaming him. Great legendary coach. I don't think
Andy Reid would love college football. Andy wants to sit
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down and design plays all day long. Sean Payton could
put on a you know he could. He could recruit
for a little while, but he wants to sit in
a room, get the glasses, look at the play sheet,
design plays. He's brilliant at it. Peyton would be a
pretty good recruiter. But you know, Kyle Shanahan to me,
is not a college guy. Kyle Shanaan and not his dad.
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Those are pro guys. They're just they're pro guys. Not
all TV guys can do radio. Not all radio guys
can do TV. It's communication, right, it's storytelling right. Not
really so college and pro is different. I don't think
Bill works. I will say this, for about a year,
the mac Jones Belichick thing worked. I thought it was
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very interesting. Julian Edelman talking about he's been humbled and
he's grown up. The knock on him. Was I remember
hearing this about mac Jones is that he was called
McEnroe Jones down in Alabama. He had a big temper,
you know, he was a dominant high school player, dominant
college player, and he didn't have a lot of time
for nonsense. And he went to the NFL and he
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got humbled fast. And I heard remember he did a
couple he'd like kick guy. He had that weird sort
of Grayson Allen thing from Duke, and I heard there
was a little uprising in the Patriots locker room and
a couple of the guys went to him and said, hey,
stop that stuff, that cheap shot stuff. You know who
pays for that? Us lineman guys will do that to us,
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And so I mean, go back to the kicking stuff.
It was like brutal. It's like what do you when
you're eight? But yet last night, after the win in
which he performed very well, he was very humbled. To Mike.
Speaker 7 (39:32):
They brought me here to play as a backup, and
that's my job. And Brocks the starter of this team,
and right now he's dealing with something and I'm just
trying to get some wins for him, so it helps
us down the line and at the end of the day,
that's what it's all about. Like I've been in his position,
I'm inn a starter and you want your backup to
go in there and win because at the end of
the season that could be the hit or miss between
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a playoff or not.
Speaker 1 (39:56):
I will say there are times that an athlete wears
a suit that I know will not look good on me,
and that is one of the instances. I'm not even
sure it looked good on him, but anyway, so that
that good for him. And I will say Sean McVay
had the bye of the day. If you were watching
that game in overtime last night, and if you're on
the East Coast, you were probably watching the Yankees in
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the post game. So there was a fourth and one
for the Rams in overtime and Sean McVay went he
went really, really vanilla on the play. And I hate
banging on coaches for play calling. I absolutely hate it.
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But I mean, McVeigh felt so bad. I don't know
what to say. I mean, it's hard to criticize a
guy when he says this after the call.
Speaker 2 (40:47):
It's a bad call. It's a bad call by me.
Speaker 8 (40:50):
It was a poor decision by me right there. In hindsight,
I wish I would have, but no, we were We
came in here to try to win the football game.
It didn't go down for Scary that wasn't even a thought.
But the play selection was very poor. I'm sick right
now because I put our players in a spot.
Speaker 1 (41:08):
Yeah, and he's a guy that takes loss is hard
for the record. If you look at the Niners schedule
the next nine weeks, Rams and Bucks maybe the only
playoff teams they play. That was a huge win for
San Francisco last night, and I thought they had a
couple of calls go against them. I thought there were
a couple of bad calls in that game that went
in the favor of the Rams. So I mean you
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start looking at that schedule. I mean it was not
daunting to begin with, but outside of the Rams and
the Bucks in the next nine weeks, that is a
That was a monster win for San Francisco. Monster Rams
schedules much tougher our number three on a Friday. Man,
he's baseball, He's crazy.
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
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Speaker 1 (00:26):
Oh here we go, Hour two and of Friday first
hour flew by Yankees. Moving on, Oh Canada, You're in trouble, jamac.
The last couple of weeks been a little turbulent for
your picks. I went four and three.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Last week with the Alabama game.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Puts me over the edge college. I've done some over
unders this year because the audience is doing that. I
almost did a pop this week on over under for
a receiver I did. I did an over under on
CD LAMB catches earlier that year. So the reason I
people say, why don't you just make picks, because that's
not what people are doing anymore. People are doing props,
they're doing over unders, and so I've always said, audience
(01:08):
drives the bus. I watched the percentage of picks people make,
and I've got another over under. We hit it last week.
We told you last week take the Patriots Panthers over,
and I got another one this week. So you're ready
to go.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Let's fire away.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Here's my blazing five.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Let's blaze it up, it up. It's Collins blazing fuck
Raiders and Colts.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
I like the Colts at home to win and cover.
First of all, they lead the NFL in yards per play.
That's a big stat for the wise guys, six point five.
An incredibly efficient offense that scores on sixty six percent
of the drives. O line gives a run game in
Daniel Jones plenty of space. In fact, in two home
starts this year, he's completing seventy one and a half
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percent of his throats. The Raiders are beat up, tied
for the most giveaways in the league, twenty second rank defense.
They're now missing their left tackle, Colton Miller, who's their
best offensive lineman. So I think right now I get
a better all line, significantly a better consistent run game.
I think the Colts are really really talented. I've been
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saying this for years. I think they're going to run
away now with this division twenty eight to twenty Colts
win it won't feel this close. They win and cover
the spread. Cowboys and Jets. I like the Jets when
the numbers plus three. Three of their four losses have
come in one score games, and when justin fields plays,
they average twenty seven a game and almost four hundred yards.
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The Cowboys are beat up, seventeen players on the injured list,
a lot of guys in the secondary, in the old line,
and it wasn't a good pass blocking unit when they
were healthy. They've allowed thirty plus points has Dallas in
three straight games. Probably the worst defense in the league.
They're bad on third down, they're bad on the back end,
and they're all beat up. And they've also allowed a
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ton of big plays and with those legs can create those.
I think the Jets at home healthier win twenty eight,
twenty seven, take the points.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Broncos at Eagles.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
I'm taking the Hulk. Denver plus three and a half
the side I'm on. Sean Payton ranks second in October
win percentage in the Super Bowl era, behind only John Madden.
Both losses for Denver this year have come on game
winning field goals as time expired. Best team in the
league is Denver at getting to the quarterback and protecting
the quarterback. Really good offensive line in Denver, and their
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defense is tied with Seattle. It's only given up sixteen
a game. I think this roster is outstanding. Eagles have
been outgained in all four games. Now you got aj
Brown drama. The offense is thirtieth ranked. That means the
coordinator does not fit and they're not getting to the
quarterback this year. They've only got five sacks in four games.
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So this team is kind of not right now, working
on all cylinders. Maybe if it's a three point spread, no,
but at three and a half, I'm gonna take Denver
to win close, low scoring game twenty four to twenty three.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Bucking Ears at Seahawks.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
I like Seattle here, second best point differential in the NFL.
They're great at home, second least penalized team. They don't
beat themselves. Sam Darnold is having himself a year and
he's not as reckless as he used to be. I
can like Baker, though has nine turnover worthy plays this year.
TFF said that's tied for the most in the NFL.
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And Tampa is in too many close games. They make
more mistakes. Also, Tampa's got sixteen players on the injured list,
so Seattle is healthier. They're at home, they're less penalized.
I like him here. Tampa's defense is beat up last
couple of weeks, does not feel as dominant. I'm gonna
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take the Seahawks the three to win and cover twenty
eight to twenty three.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Titans and Cardinals.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
I like the over forty one and a half. Neither
team pressures the quarterback, so cam Ward and Kyler are
going to have time to operate. Cardinals also coming off
extra rest, They're at home where there can be feisty,
and I think they're gonna win this game, potentially by blowout.
Listen to Titans that faced four pretty good defenses Broncos, Rams, Colts, Texans,
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so this is a little bit of a breather. It
won't be as dominant a defense. And again unrest Arizona.
Skilled people are outstanding defense for the Titans, not great.
Don't get to the quarterback. Their defense doesn't do anything
particularly well. The overs forty one and a half, it's
a low number. I think we have a blowout on
the horizon. Cardinals win at thirty one to thirteen. Take
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the over in this game. And with that, Julian Edelman
is now joining US Live Fox Sports analysts, and we
appreciate that. On a Friday, came about last night. I
can remember this year's ago. I always thought fumbles, Julian,
were random, but they were except for the Patriots, which
a team that didn't fumble. So I'm watching that game
(06:11):
last night. Blake krum Kyron Williams had five fumbles last
year and like ball Security, Matt Stafford had one of
the best nights he's had as a pro and they
lose at home, much healthier team. What did New England
do all those years, because after seven or eight years,
are not fumbling, it's not luck. Did the Patriots just
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concentrate on it more?
Speaker 4 (06:34):
Yeah, you know, we used to have them auto ball securities,
job security, and Bill would literally witch. I'm sure right
now North Carolinas here in the same pitch. If you
carry the ball in your hands, you're carrying the fate
of the whole organization in your hand, from Nancy Myers upstairs,
to the marketing department, to the guys in New Hampshire
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that are rooting for the team. That's how important the
ball was. And we would start off every day practice.
After our warm up, we would do a ball security
drill where we'd sit there and we'd have you know,
you run down fifty three yards and back with the
guy on the back of you trying to take the
ball out. You'd hold two balls and you have two
guys hitting you. We'd do the stumble bump on every
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third step. You would go down to the ground and
try to simulate when you put your hand on the
ground how vulnerable the ball is when you pull it up,
and you're always trying to get three points of three
points of contact on the ball with your forearm the
top and keeping.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
It nudged in.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
So we used to talk about it, and when you
talk about it, you subconsciously think about it. We would
also have cutups of that defense that we were playing
that specific week, a thirty play cutup of if they
were a ball hawking team. You know, I vividly remember
the Ravens. They'd always come after the ball and you'd
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have Chad O'shay come up there and have thirty plays
of plays of the defense trying to get at the ball.
May not have been a fumble, but just to show
that they have that in their weap injury, so we
were very conscious about it. I could still remember like
the three times that I fumbled because it was such
an important thing.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Ball securities, job security.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
So you know, I've seen Darnold and Baker and Daniel
Jones and now Mac Jones be reborn. I was so
impressed with him last night. First of all, anytime a
player gets hurt and stays in the game, I mean
that's something because he's hurting way more than I've ever
been hurt in my life. Kendrick Bourne was his go
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to guy. What did you make a Mac Jones last night?
Speaker 4 (08:37):
He played great. I mean he threw for what three
hundred and forty two yards, two touchdowns, He's three and ozero.
This is a heck of a start for the San
Francisco forty nine ers. They've really had to overcome some adversity.
I thought it was really going to hit him hard
last night, not having Nick Bosa out there, because how
are they going to get that closed stop at the end,
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And they were able to find a way to win
the game. Kendrick Bourne and Mac Jones, they clearly have
some chemistry from New England and look, we've seen Mac
Jones play good football in New England. It was never
about him playing good football, was about how he handled
success in his body language. And he's obviously matured over
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this these last couple of years because he looks like
a different player. You can see him on off the field,
how he handles himself, with how he spoke at the
podium after the game. He's been humbled. This game humbles
you in some form of fashion, and it buries some
guys and mac Jones, you know, he's shown that he's
resurging from it.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Yeah, accurate, good velocity, back shoulder throw is really impressive.
I'm going to spend yeah, yeah, I want to talk
Drake May. I got to tell you last couple of weeks.
He doesn't make a lot of mistakes. They're not putting
a ton on his plate, but he moves.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
Well.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
What are you hearing from Rabel in New England on
Drake May? Because it looks like they found their guy.
Speaker 4 (10:03):
Yeah, I think they found a guy that they can
think can become the franchise guy. I mean it's still
super early in the evaluation process. Last week or two
weeks ago, they turn over the ball five times. He
had a couple of fumbles. He's you know he's taking
care of the ball throwing it, but you know, he
still got to win these games.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
And this is a good situation for.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
Him now because after the loss, how did he come
and show up the next week? They go on and
blow out The Panthers are a great slump busting team
to play when you're not playing very well, and he
handles them the way you should handle them. So this
is going to be the ultimate test when you got
to go play the big brother in the division who's been,
you know, embarrassing the team for the last few years.
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And it'll be really interesting to see if he could
carry over all the success he's had these last couple
weeks or last week, not taking care of the football,
making plays in the red area when you know he
has to with his legs, not over using his legs,
not getting hit too much, offensive lines playing well. I
think that they match up very well against Buffalo, but
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they're gonna have to play a mistake free game to
beat the Buffalo Bills. You can't go in there and
turn it over two times one time. They're gonna have
to play sound football. And if he can continue that,
then you look at look at Drake Man you say,
this is our guy, but he's still super early. He's
shown signs, but you can still see that Vrabel's out there.
You know, they each challenging him to be a leader.
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He wants to see more. He's still a baby. He's
still a baby. So it's been great to see some
of the success he's had, and there's been great situations.
Get lose a game you should have won, come back,
you know, ignite the offense, and play a mistake free game.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
The next week against the Panthers.
Speaker 4 (11:47):
Let's see how he rolls in against the Buffalo Bills,
because this is the ultimate measuring stick for him.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Well, it didn't happen often, but I've spent the last
week defending Aaron Rodgers. In my take is he is
the lowest credded quarterback according tof and the reason being
is he's not throwing the ball down the field. My
take is is that Aaron, and this happens in real time,
realizes his defense has been so dominant in field position
and taking the ball away that Aaron, over the course
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of a game is like, well, what's the point if
we're running it? Okay, I'm not throwing the ball down
the field. He's developed a relationship with DK Metcalf, who's
a great player but kind of an emotional guy, still
very young. And my take is, and it's nothing against
PFF or a grading system, but I do think a
quarterback part of his job is over the course of
a game, if you're watching your defense, take a part
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the other team's offense. Okay, put away some of the
erase some of the big swings down the field. And
I think people think Aaron's being conservative, might take it now,
he's being smart. There's no reason to take big swings.
What's your take on his season?
Speaker 4 (12:52):
I agree with you one thousand percent. This is what
she signed up for when you wanted Aaron Rodgers. A
guy that's going to get you in the right play.
He's going to take care of the football play situationally,
right on third down and in the red area.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
And that's what he's been doing.
Speaker 4 (13:04):
He's actually moved around a lot better than he has
in the last couple of years too. I mean two
years off the Achilles he looks great and he can
still throw the ball.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Aaron Rodgers has forgotten more.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
Football than probably seventy percent of these other quarterbacks. And
the fact that he can go out and manage the game.
The way he has shows that. I mean, it's been
really impressive. I think this is one of the biggest
surprises of the season. Yeah, and you know, you look
at him and I think they're only going to get
better because time on task together. They've only had four weeks,
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you know, they didn't have a full off season and
good quarter. I remember Tom always used to say, you know,
the older he got, he would always say, the game
gets easier because he knows the answers to the test.
It's if their body can allow them to do it,
and his body can still allow him to do it.
He understands that he doesn't need to take a big
hit on a second and ten early in the game.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
Just throw the ball away.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
He's not going to put his team in jeopardy of
throwing crazy deep balls in triple coverage because he doesn't
have to because, like you said, his defense and get
him a couple turnovers. He's playing the game the way
the Steelers kind of used to play the game with
Big Ben. When Big Ben was rallying the team, you know,
you'd have one or two big plays, but it was
always kind of a muddy game. Play to the defense,
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have a good couple special teams play the Boswell guy's
great kicker, so he's got a lot of great things
going in his favor. I'm super interested to see how
he does in these xt four weeks.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
So the Eagles aren't doing anything well offensively, and it's
obviously not personnel. So so Sirianni's not a big scheme guy.
He's more of the walk around CEO, kind of a
culture builder. So he's very reliant on his offensive coordinator.
When he had Steichen Super Bowl, he went to Brian Johnson.
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It didn't work. That he's Kellen Moore. Okay, it works,
and now he brings in a new guy. It's not
as good. So could be a coordinator thing. But my
question to you is you mostly had the same coordinator,
But from your experience in football, what's the difference between
an okay coordinator and a great coordinator. Because Philly, based
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on their offensive coordinator, has been a different offense through
the years.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Well, I was.
Speaker 4 (15:20):
Fortunate enough to play with two really good offensive coordinators,
Billy O'Brien and Josh McDaniels, which they had different wrinkles
but a lot of the same similar values.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Of how they want to call the game.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
I still think this is early in the season for
Kevin Pluto or Kevin Patullo and this offense.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
I mean, they've only been together for four games.
Speaker 4 (15:43):
Last year, at this point, we thought the you know,
the Eagles were not going to make the playoffs, whether
they won in three or two and two.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
They weren't playing good until that bye week came.
Speaker 4 (15:51):
So I still think that they're trying to figure out
their offense, what they are, and their identity this year.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
I mean, and that takes a while.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
I mean they're still four and oh they're collecting wins
and winning ball games when they're not playing their best,
so you can anticipate that they're going to figure out,
all right, well we do these things very well through
the first four weeks, we don't do this very well.
Let's scrap that, let's get to this, let's try to
kill this tendency.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
And I think that's the part of the season that
they're in.
Speaker 4 (16:21):
I think it's a little too early to say that
they're just broken on offense because there's only been four
weeks and they have four wins. You know, you have
Aj Brown, who's a talented receiver, who can make your
plays on the outside. I anticipate they'd start moving to
him around and scheming them open, because it seems like
the only rout he runs is a nine step a
nine yard stop route on the outside on third and
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long when you know it's man coverage and a lot
of these corners are now squatting on it, so you
know they're taking that away. I think a good offensive
coordinator they'll start moving aj around, trying to get them
the ball early, to get them happy, because you got
to keep them happy. I'm still kind of broken on
how to evaluate the Eagles team because last year I
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thought all the distractions were going to be a lot
and they won the Super Bowl. It seems like they're
going down that same road. But they're even better this
year than they were through the first four games than
last year. So let's just keep on watching this thing
out and see how it unfolds. I think they'll continue
to get better.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
So the Chiefs offense had been I mean like a
water pistol. They bring in Xavier Worthy, who's not a
number one. He's kind of a speed gadget guy, and
they bring him in and it looks like the best
It looks like the Tyreek Hill Chiefs offensive four or
five years ago, and I'm like, well, Worthy, he's not
a number one. He is kind of a gadget guy.
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But it does illustrate when you bring in an over
the top player, it opens up stuff for even running backs.
Well give me your experience on that. We don't look
at Worthy as as an elite Justin Jefferson or Pooka Nakua,
but it's like just inserting him changed the entire offense.
Speaker 4 (18:00):
This reminds me a lot of when we'd have a
guy like Philip dor Said or Brandon LaFell, and our
offense was cooking the most when they would make one
or two plays down the field, because it makes the
offense have to defend every blade of grass. And that's
what speed does.
Speaker 5 (18:17):
I mean.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
If you look.
Speaker 4 (18:18):
At the Kansas City Chiefs the first four weeks, they
were slow on offense, very slow. So then you can
condense the middle of the field and the production for
all the guys that eat in the middle of the
field are going to be harder to get because they
don't have anyone that threatens threatens them downfield. And that's
what he does. I mean, the speed all he's got
to do is make one play and get behind the
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defense once and it changes the whole complexity of how
that defense is going to defend them, because if they
don't want to get beat deep, they rather have Kansas
City going on a fourteen play drive and try to
make them lose in a situational battle on third down
or in the red area and collect three points. So
I think it's a huge addition to get Xavier worthy
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because the speed it opens up the offense. They're gonna
get even better when they get Rashi Rice back. Uh.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
You know this is this could be a scarier team
than they were last year.
Speaker 4 (19:09):
They're gonna have more offensive weapons this year once they
start getting their guys together.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
So I'm excited to watch them in this next four.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
Finally, you got inducted into the Patriots Hall of Fame.
Uh yeah, that's pretty cool. I mean, considering your life
where you're from. Uh take me there, What was it like?
Speaker 2 (19:31):
Yeah, it was.
Speaker 4 (19:32):
It was an absolute unbelievable honor to be on the
same stage with you know, Coach Parcells, Brabes, Stanley Morgan McGuinness,
Coach Scarr, all the guys, the former inductees, It's just
absolute honor. And you know too, to say back in
my rookie year when I was changing positions from quarterback
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to receiver, that I'd be in the Patriots Hall of Fame,
which is arguably, you know, a top top one to
two three organization. It's pretty surreal for me. It was
an unbelievable honor to have my family there, my little girl,
my brother, my sister, my parents, because it's ultimately an
award for them, uh, for them being in my corner
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through the highs and the lows. You know, football is
such a family sport. There's so many sacrifices you have
to go through if you want to be a competitive
professional athlete, and those sacrifices are saying no to you know,
your loved ones, and you're really a mercenary. And to
have people that were in my corner and understanding what
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I was trying to do in my career, you know,
helped me get through it. So it was it was
an unbelievable day. Thanks to the Craft family. They had
an awesome production and you know, it was a pretty cool,
surreal moment.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
Julian Edelman Fox NFL Kickoff Sundays on Fox it's great
seeing you man on Fox.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
Great seeing you two guys.
Speaker 4 (20:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
He joins us on FS one regularly and he's on
Fox on Sundays. Plus Games with Names is his highly
entertaining podcast. Blazing five is in the books. I will
watch games without a cause, without a nervous reaction. I
feel very strongly about my picks. J Mack has his
an hour and a half and uh Man alive that whole.
Speaker 5 (21:23):
It's scary because I like your picks a lot. Colin,
I do that Denver pick. I'm on them like I
don't know you. This could be your first five and
OL of the season. I don't know about the total.
The Titans just got shut out. Okay, the Titans are garbage.
We know that they cannot move the football, but you know,
Kalaan's fighting for his job. This is the first mediocre
defense the Titans have played, so you know, and Arizona's
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on extra arrest, and we like Arizona's offense, and Connor's
not healthy, so they'll have to throw the ball. And
I think even if the Titans get crushed, they'll throw
the ball back door it.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
Can so cam mort will keep checking.
Speaker 5 (21:58):
A quick note on the Bucks I'm waiting for the
injury of or but Bucky Irving, the stud running back,
hasn't practiced this week, so Tampa could be without Mike
Evans and Bucky Irving against a top three defense in
the league in Seattle.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
Not great for the Bucks.
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Speaker 1 (23:01):
We've got an interesting story coming up on Bill Belichick,
really interesting story. A coach calls him out and I
think you're gonna like that story. J Maack with the news.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
Turn on the news. This is the Herdline News.
Speaker 5 (23:19):
We've been watching this one all week, Colin. That's the
Ravens injuries. It is bleak. John Harbaugh just spoke to
the media. Kyle Hamilton now.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
Added to the list of guys not practicing.
Speaker 5 (23:30):
I mean, goodness, gracious, you see that line Texans minus
two and a half, Colin, it was Ravens minus nine and.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
A half last week before Week four games.
Speaker 5 (23:39):
Okay, Ravens are way better, but they're down a billion guys.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
Here's Mark Andrews talking about the mindset of the team
through the injuries.
Speaker 6 (23:48):
Everybody here in this organization is Who're all fighters. You know,
we've been through adversity. We know what that looks like.
And there's no quit in this group. And I'm excited
to show the world that. The beautiful thing is that
we had a lot of fighters in this group, and
you know, a deep organization with a ton of players
that are going to step up and make plays. And
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I just got a lot of faith and trust in
the guys.
Speaker 5 (24:11):
So uh this, I mean, the screen is almost unfathomable.
You know, this is like, I don't know what ninety
percent of these guys are, yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
But pro bowlers over that level.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
But the Niners last night, same situation and they beat
McVeigh and Stafford.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
Well they had mac Jones and Kyle Shanahan. And now
you're time out.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
Cooper, I got see, I got c J. Straw. I mean, Cooper,
what you want about Cooper Rush? He had a winning
record When Mike McCarthy used Cooper Rush for a month,
Cooper Rush had a winning record.
Speaker 5 (24:41):
Yeah, that's Mike McCarthy. Really good offensive coach. I don't
know Baltimore and Max said, you do have a good
point obviously that uh you know, the Niners are beat
up and they still won. But Kause it's the defense
that scares me. Rokwan Smith, he calls all the plays defensively. Okay,
then you're back end Kyle Hamilton. They have no pass rush,
No Van Noy your a guy who comes on the show.
Their top cornerback, Wiggins is out. Humphrey who couldn't guarden
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me out of the slot right now he's down. I
mean they are in rough shape. I just on principle,
I gotta go with the Texans here under three do
you have the stomach to don't.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
Have the stomach I just when I watched the Niners
last night, I think they're in worse shape than Baltimore.
And I mean mac Jones. Nobody thought Mac joneses now
three and no Mac Jones was dead and buried in
this league, like worse than Daniel Jones. At least won
a playoff game. Mac Jones, the Jaguars had him. He's
a hometown kid. They're like not interested. So I mean,
my takeaway on this is, I wouldn't count the Ravens out.
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I watched the Niners last night. I wouldn't count him out.
Speaker 5 (25:40):
I'll just say mac Jones, you know, got to the
playoffs as a rookie with the Patriots. I know they
got smoked like forty seven to seven or whatever by
the Bills, but.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
He at least got to the playoffs.
Speaker 5 (25:49):
I mean, Cooper rush four games, simple size, He's like
a so Lamar runs around, does all these awesome things.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
Cooper's a statue. He's not mobile.
Speaker 5 (25:57):
I think you have to totally change your offense, don't you.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
Well, but they have some good pieces. They have good pieces.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
Maybe it's a Derek Henry game.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
I'm backing Willy Anderson in this one. Let's go to the.
Speaker 5 (26:07):
Next story, and that's the Great Chargers Commander's game out
here at SOFI Sunday. I will be in the building
for that one. I don't feel great about the Chargers Colin.
Big news here, Terry McLaurin has not played or practice.
He will not make the trip out west. For the
Commanders and their offense, I know they got I think
twenty seven on the Falcons with Mariota, but.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
I just I didn't see.
Speaker 5 (26:32):
It totally with Washington, they were totally different team without
mclaurin's stretching the field. Deebo Samuel obviously underneath is good
and for the Chargers, Joe All is doubtful.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
I'm just I'm staying away from Charger game.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
Yeah that's smart.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
I mean, I again, love the coach, love the quarterback, love
some of the defensive players. But if you don't, it's
like Minnesota. Now, I'm staying away from Minnesota, Cleveland. If
you're missing two and three starters in the offensive line,
you know, if your run game works at works, but
stay away time for me on Minnesota and the Chargers,
I'm just staying away from those teams.
Speaker 5 (27:04):
Let me ask you about so running quarterbacks have given
the Chargers problem.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
Jackson Dart last week was the latest.
Speaker 5 (27:10):
Do you think Jayden Daniels coming off a knee injury
in two weeks out is.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
Going to be running at all?
Speaker 4 (27:16):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
He came back.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
Remember last year he was injured.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
Again.
Speaker 5 (27:18):
We're not going glass Joe Burrow on him, but he
was banged up last year and didn't run for a bit,
and it kind of took away his superpower, which is
the Josh Allen Lamar. I could just make things happen.
I'm rooting Chargers here obviously. I think the Chargers get
it done. This is kind of a big swing game
for them that you don't want to lose two games
of Washington and the Giants back to back, because now
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the Chiefs are playing the Jags and if they win
that they're creeping back in the division.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
And here comes Denver, which played very well against Cincinnati,
and I think he has a chance to beat Philadelphia.
So this division is going to go down to the
last two or three weeks.
Speaker 5 (27:52):
Yeah, probably will. All right, let's go to baseball for
the final story.
Speaker 4 (27:55):
Calm.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
There was some.
Speaker 5 (27:56):
Controversy in the Cubs Padres game if you're watching on
the screen, you could see that pitch was definitely low
to Xander Bogart's clearly out of the strike zone. Bogarts
loses his mind. The Padres were irate. Here's Bogarts on
the terrible call.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
After the game, we talk about it now, I mean,
you know it's a balling Yeah, it's just the whole game,
you know what I mean. Can't go back in time
and talking about it now won't change anything. So it was.
Speaker 6 (28:27):
It was bad and tank golf A abs exit because
this is terrible.
Speaker 5 (28:32):
I know you're deep in the baseball right now. I'm
just curious where you are on this system, Like why
test it in spring training and not use it in
the postseason?
Speaker 2 (28:39):
What do I mean?
Speaker 1 (28:40):
Like? The pitch clock was I remember years ago being
on a flight UH and I sat next to a uh,
the Richmond Minor League baseball general manager, and they were
using the pitchclock already in the minor league for a
couple of years, so they wanted to you know, the
pitchclock was dramatic. Traditionalists hated it. Pictures, the Union and everybody,
you know, people were like, well oh wha, wha, whoa.
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So they used it in the minor league for a
couple of years. Well, now this system you're getting, you're
gonna get rid of the you know, look you look
at that system.
Speaker 7 (29:07):
Is it?
Speaker 1 (29:08):
The traditionalists, the umpires don't like it, so you want
to get things right by the way they used it
in the All Star Game. Super efficient, super quick, and
it works. So they're just I have no problem with
baseball doing due diligence here. Baseball, for the last three years,
it has made multiple changes. They've often gone to them.
One of the great advantages that baseball has over every
other sport. They have a minor league system and they
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can experiment in the minor leagues and then bring it
into the show. So it's it's you know, it's funny
about baseball. Baseball fans will say, well, oh, football only
has got one game a week. We're at a big disadvantage.
The advantage of baseball. It's every night, so you get
so emotionally invested. Like with baseball, I'm not going to
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sit and watch beginning to end regular season games. I'll
see highlights, I'll see them three innings, But like last night,
I could all day I'm sitting around waiting to watch
the Yankees and Red Sox, and I think the emotion.
I mean, here in Chicago, it's like nobody was on
the train. Everybody was home watching the Cubs, listening on radio,
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or at Wrigley Field. So I mean, my take is
Baseball's made a lot of changes over the last three
years and they've nailed all of them. So they're going
to use the minor league system. They tried it in
the All Star Game. Next year we'll have it, and
I'm I'm in a back baseball. I think they've had
a hell of a three year run.
Speaker 5 (30:27):
So this is similar to in the NFL where you
can challenge plays, and in the NBA they have this
new challenge system with the Hawkeye camera. But the padres
were so ticked off. There's video of their reaction at
the end of the game, Like, I mean, they were
losing their minds going after the officials and the umpires.
Like here they are leaving and look at the padres.
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They kind of got to be held back from going
after the umpires and listen, man.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
I understand the frustration. It's the ninth inning.
Speaker 5 (30:55):
And everyone watching, with five million people watching, can see
that it was out of the strike zone.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
Don't you want him to get it right. It's just disappointing.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
Yeah, I mean there's I think most umpires are great.
You know, I was at the Illinois USC game this
weekend and two different officials, three actually came up to
me and thanked me. That said, hey, I appreciate you always.
You have a reputation as you will defend officials. And
my take is I didn't grow up with all these
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thirty seven replays. Think about this, in a football stadium
in twenty twenty five or in a baseball park in
twenty twenty five, there's only one person who only sees
the play once, the umpire or the official. They get
at once in real speed, So everybody crushes these guys.
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These games go fast. The guys are now throwing one
oh four. It's just harder to officiate. And then you're
subject to criticism because you have fumbles last night happening
in the Rams Niners game at the bottom of a
pile and you can see it. And so I think
we all. I don't like crushing officials because first of all,
you get fans worked up and they already get tons
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of abuse. The first baseball game I ever went to
as a kid in the Kingdome. They were booing the umpires.
So they already get death threats and all this stuff.
And I think last year, you just last year Fox
during the super Bowl last year, think about this. Fox
used two hundred and forty cameras. The first Super Bowl
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had like four. We used two hundred and forty cameras.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
Doesn't that apply to your work?
Speaker 5 (32:32):
Smarter, not harder, Like, let's just bring on the bring
on the robots, bring on the cameras.
Speaker 3 (32:37):
Let's get it right.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
I would over listen to the NFL doesn't have full
time officials. If you could just use cameras and chips,
why wouldn't I wouldn't football. I don't think you can
never do that past down, No, I mean, I'm but
I think people beat up the officials. And it's like, guys,
it's a hard job that's gotten a lot harder.
Speaker 5 (32:57):
Colin eight master, Yeah, the padres worked what eight months
for this?
Speaker 3 (33:01):
They get to the ninth inning, they're down three to one.
Speaker 5 (33:03):
Runners is going position, and you get this crap, Like
I would be pissed, I'll be ticked off.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
Oh I get it.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
Jmack with the News, Well that's the.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
News and thanks for stopping by.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
It's The Herd Live, very very interesting article. So Bill
Belichick at Carolina has been nothing short of a disaster.
Like they're not competitive, They're getting blown out by average teams.
I don't think any of us thought this. I mean
not all of us thought they were gonna roll the
you know, roll through the schedule. I thought they would
lose to Clemson. But this one coach has an explanation.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
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Speaker 5 (33:51):
Big Noon is back in ann Arbor and Michigan's own
president Dae is leading the charge. The pregame party starts
at ten am Eastern. Then it's quarterback Bryce Underwood and
the Wolverines going head to head with Wisconsin at noon
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Speaker 1 (34:08):
So Bill Belichick assembled a very poor roster. We said
that after the first game against TCU, they just do
not many good players. So a coach, a Group five
head coach said this, they miscalculated the way they were
taking guys in the portal and paying dudes. It made
(34:31):
me wonder did they actually understand the landscape they were in.
Did they understand they're in the ACC, not the Conference
USA or Sun Belt? Like, we got beat by North
Carolina a bunch of kids, And I like, why the
blank is North Carolina beating us on kids? They're recruiting
the guys we recruit. And this is a coach in
a smaller program and a smaller conference. So Belichick seventy
(34:55):
three years old, basically, and I have a theory on
this number one, to get the best guys in the portal,
because Carolina had some money. To get the best guys
in the portal, you gotta kiss a lot of butt,
and you gotta work much harder. And Bill wasn't up
for it. Secondly, a little the Charlie Weiss thing when
Bill comes in thinking, maybe you know, schematically, I'm dealing
(35:17):
with a bunch of ACC football coaches. We're gonna outsmart
these guys, and you know, we're gonna build a culture.
We don't need to have five star guys. I don't
know if that's true, but I will tell you one
thing that is unequivocally true. And one of the concerns
I had when Belichick and Mike Lombardi took it over.
I'm like, they're pros, they're pro guys. Charlie Weis is
(35:38):
a pro guy. He's not gonna understand. He's not gonna
have that feel. He's done a butt kisser. It's kind
of that New Jersey rough personality. And that's fine, but
that's a pro personality. You have to kiss Bob, you know.
Jimmy Johnson Jim Harbaugh are one those one and two
Pete Carroll. It worked both ways. Pete's got a big personality.
Jimmy's got a big personality, and Harbaugh, you know, can
(35:59):
really turn it on and off personality wise. Bill doesn't.
And I've said this for years. There's only I remember
telling Rex Ryan this one time. I said, dude, you'd
be a great college coach. You did well in the NFL.
You could do college because Rex can talk to talk.
Rex is very verbal, big emotion, good looking guy, big smile,
full of laughs. Rex Ryan would have worked in college,
but he wasn't as good as some of the other
(36:21):
NFL coaches. And John Gruden to me, I would hire
him in a heartbeat in college football. Gruden again, personality
can turn on the charm. He could recruit. So Rex,
Ryan and Gruden were the two guys to me that
would always work. Mike Tomlin, I think is kind of
a dude. He'd walk in, you know, the mom would
(36:42):
be impressed, the dad would think he's cool to play.
I think Mike Tomlin can work at the college level
as well, but my theory is not all He's got
Bill Parcells. In college. He'd have no time for nonsense.
Bill Parcells would spend five minutes with one booster and
be like, get me out of here. Belichick's not built
for college football. He never had any interest in it.
I love Urban Meyer. Urban's not a pro coach. I
(37:03):
remember talking to Urban about this, and Urban said, I
spent my sundays watching film because I didn't watch NFL football.
And it's like, there is a sensibility in the NFL
saban perfect for college dominating personality that's not going to
work in pro football. So Bill was always a little
cranky and difficult, and you know, distract that. It feels like,
(37:25):
and I think a lot of this is I mean,
you watch them against TCU and you're like, they don't
have enough players, they don't have any speed here, average quarterback,
no big speed, no great pass rushers, and I think
some of it is to get those kind of guys,
you got to turn on the charm and Bill didn't
have any interest in that. That's just not who he is.
I'm not blaming him. Great legendary coach. I don't think
Andy Reid would love college football. Andy wants to sit
(37:48):
down and design plays all day long. Sean Payton could
put on a you know he could. He could recruit
for a little while, but he wants to sit in
a room, get the glasses, look at the play sheet,
design plays. He's brilliant at it. Peyton would be a
pretty good recruiter. But you know, Kyle Shanahan to me,
is not a college guy. Kyle Shanaan and not his dad.
(38:12):
Those are pro guys. They're just they're pro guys. Not
all TV guys can do radio. Not all radio guys
can do TV. It's communication, right, it's storytelling right. Not
really so college and pro is different. I don't think
Bill works. I will say this, for about a year,
the mac Jones Belichick thing worked. I thought it was
(38:33):
very interesting. Julian Edelman talking about he's been humbled and
he's grown up. The knock on him. Was I remember
hearing this about mac Jones is that he was called
McEnroe Jones down in Alabama. He had a big temper,
you know, he was a dominant high school player, dominant
college player, and he didn't have a lot of time
for nonsense. And he went to the NFL and he
(38:56):
got humbled fast. And I heard remember he did a
couple he'd like kick guy. He had that weird sort
of Grayson Allen thing from Duke, and I heard there
was a little uprising in the Patriots locker room and
a couple of the guys went to him and said, hey,
stop that stuff, that cheap shot stuff. You know who
pays for that? Us lineman guys will do that to us,
(39:16):
And so I mean, go back to the kicking stuff.
It was like brutal. It's like what do you when
you're eight? But yet last night, after the win in
which he performed very well, he was very humbled. To Mike.
Speaker 7 (39:32):
They brought me here to play as a backup, and
that's my job. And Brocks the starter of this team,
and right now he's dealing with something and I'm just
trying to get some wins for him, so it helps
us down the line and at the end of the day,
that's what it's all about. Like I've been in his position,
I'm inn a starter and you want your backup to
go in there and win because at the end of
the season that could be the hit or miss between
(39:54):
a playoff or not.
Speaker 1 (39:56):
I will say there are times that an athlete wears
a suit that I know will not look good on me,
and that is one of the instances. I'm not even
sure it looked good on him, but anyway, so that
that good for him. And I will say Sean McVay
had the bye of the day. If you were watching
that game in overtime last night, and if you're on
the East Coast, you were probably watching the Yankees in
(40:17):
the post game. So there was a fourth and one
for the Rams in overtime and Sean McVay went he
went really, really vanilla on the play. And I hate
banging on coaches for play calling. I absolutely hate it.
(40:38):
But I mean, McVeigh felt so bad. I don't know
what to say. I mean, it's hard to criticize a
guy when he says this after the call.
Speaker 2 (40:47):
It's a bad call. It's a bad call by me.
Speaker 8 (40:50):
It was a poor decision by me right there. In hindsight,
I wish I would have, but no, we were We
came in here to try to win the football game.
It didn't go down for Scary that wasn't even a thought.
But the play selection was very poor. I'm sick right
now because I put our players in a spot.
Speaker 1 (41:08):
Yeah, and he's a guy that takes loss is hard
for the record. If you look at the Niners schedule
the next nine weeks, Rams and Bucks maybe the only
playoff teams they play. That was a huge win for
San Francisco last night, and I thought they had a
couple of calls go against them. I thought there were
a couple of bad calls in that game that went
in the favor of the Rams. So I mean you
(41:29):
start looking at that schedule. I mean it was not
daunting to begin with, but outside of the Rams and
the Bucks in the next nine weeks, that is a
That was a monster win for San Francisco. Monster Rams
schedules much tougher our number three on a Friday. Man,
he's baseball, He's crazy.
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