Colin also unveils his updated Herd Hierarchy, with the Kansas City Chiefs reclaiming the No. 1 spot for the first time this NFL season.
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Speaker 3 (00:26):
Here we go. It's hour two and a Tuesday. We
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Speaker 1 (00:31):
Wherever you may be and however you may be listening.
Thanks for making us part of your day. So we
do the top ten every week at this time. And
there are these teams out there that I think are
pretty good, the Rams, the Chargers, the Bills. But I
sit and I go through all the numbers, and I again,
this is not standing.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
I consider your help. Puka Nakua out for the Rams.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
That's not the same offense you got running backs that
struggling with the Ravens. So I count what's your health like?
I don't care what you did Sunday? What is your
health like going forward? What do you do with San Francisco?
No bosa, no Fred Warner from last year, no hufunga,
no green law. I mean Robert Sla has limitations. So
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here we go our herd hierarchy on this Tuesday.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
Heard hierarchy time.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Now go the top ten NFL teams according to College
Number ten.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
New England Patriots' easiest NFL schedule going forward.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
This is not a mirage.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Drake May leads ranks top five and completion percentage, passing yards,
big plays, and passer rating. He's getting better than average protection,
He's got a running game. The kid moves well. Easy
schedule three and zero. Also, as Jamak pointed out last week,
since Christian Zalez, the cornerback, has returned three and up,
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number nine, number nine, the Steelers listen. They don't turn
it over and they take it away. That does count
as a good trait. They're taking the football away now.
They're not facing great quarterbacks, but their only loss came
to the Seahawks, a team.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
That is better.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
They're the second least penalized team, and they have a
receiving corps and a tight end corep that looks like
an NBA front line that looks like the Dallas Mavericks.
Everybody's six six and up, so they are using some
height advantages, some size advantages. They don't throw it down
the field, but it's working. Pittsburgh at nine.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Number eight.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
I like the Colts.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
I think they have the second best offensive line in
football to Detroit, fewest sacks allowed in the NFL Indianapolis.
They are scoring on sixty two and a half percent
of their drives.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
They also should have beaten the Rams.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
They have the number one scoring offense, leaves the NFL
in first downs again Warren the rookie Pittman Jonathan Taylor,
a top two or three offensive line.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
Daniel Jones this year. All you need to know.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
He's completing over seventy one percent of his throws. I
think they have a ceiling. I don't think they're a
conference championship team yet. They may be this weekend if
they beat the Chargers, I may reassess. But I have
the Colts at number eight, number seven.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
Green Bay.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
They're young and can't figure out how to put away
inferior teams, but all three wins have come by thirteen
plus points. I like Jordan Love He's more far than
Aaron Rodgers. He could get a little careless, but they're
the best third down offense in the NFL and you
can't run on them. They're the opposite of the Bills.
You can't run on them. So they're doing a little
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bit of takeaway this year, which they haven't historically done.
Craft's an unbelievable tight end. I like this team a lot.
They're very young, which concerns me. The quarterbacks, the receivers,
the tight end really young. But Jeff Hafley's got that
defense can't run on it, and they're taking it away.
Green Bay at seven, number six, Well, Seattle was my
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surprise pick in the NFL this year. New England and Seattle.
They lead the NFL in yards per play. That is
a huge stat and if you watch them, jsn is
absolutely become a number one ride receiver in this league.
Sam Darnold, according to PFF, is the highest rated quarterback
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in the NFL. I think Baker would be my MVP.
But they can run it. They can get you over
the top, they throw to their tight ends. They are
young and athletic defensively and lead the league in yards
per play. Vegas loves that number Number five, Philadelphia thirtieth
ranked offense. I mean, it's pretty simple. When Jalen Hurts
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throws the ball thirty three times, plus they're not good.
When he throws at twenty five times, they win. I
do think they're eventually going to to some degree right
the ship. But they've been out gained in every game
this season, and they have had three or four of
the worst halfs in the league thirty punts this year,
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only Cleveland the Bengals have more. So their personnel puts
them at five, but I'm not sure they're at five.
Let's see him play Minnesota. Let's see Minnesota off of
BIBE hosting Philadelphia. I may knock him out of the
top ten like I've done Buffalo.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Number four.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
I think Detroit's good.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
I just think Kansas City is separated from the league
four games with thirty four plus points, best offensive line.
They're doing something that the Lions haven't done. And I
said this last week. A lot of sacks, a lot
of takeaways. They have the hardest remaining schedule. Again, this
is a really good football team. What Kansas City did
to them, nobody else in the league, in my opinion could.
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In fact, they play Tampa this week, and I think
Detroit is gonna win that game and maybe comfortably.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
Detroit at four. Number three, Colin, what are you doing
putting Sean Payton at Denver at three.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
Do you know they are the best in the league
at protecting their quarterback and the best in the league
at getting after yours. I think they're one of the
few teams that actually can make Kansas City a little
uncomfortable high altitude for home games. I like their weapons.
I don't think bo Nicks is playing particularly well, but
they You can't get to bon Nicks and he's had
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I think he should run more. You can't get to him,
and they get after your quarterback. So they have the
number one ranked offensive line, best third down defense, best
red zone defense. They don't have to be great at quarterback.
They can play poorly and win, like this past week.
I have them at three number two Tampa's five and one.
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They could also be two and four, but Baker Mayfield
it would be my MVP. They are playing without their
number one receiver, their number two receiver, their number three receiver,
their number four receiver. They're going to a D two
guy in Tez Johnson, no Bucky Irving. Baker Mayfield has
accounted for seventeen hundred yards. Only Mahomes has accounted for more.
I think they're resilient. I think they're tough and they're
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doing it. I've always liked their GM. They are doing
it right now with backups. I think Tampa's two number one,
but I don't think it's particularly close. I think Kansas
City is with Rashi Rice coming back, he's not going
to get thirteen targets in his first week back. He'll
probably get four to six. But Hollywood Brown, Juju Smith,
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Travis Worthy o line didn't even have their left tackle.
This is a good football team suffocating defensively. I said
when they beat the Ravens, I don't want to hear
about injuries. They physically stopped Lamar. Lamar was completely not
only in his head, he could didn't have any space.
So to the Colts, they have the second most efficient offense.
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They're not giving the ball away. I mean to play.
Detroit did not have a penalty, not have a turnover
in one punt. Detroit's good, really good. That's why I
only dropped him to four. This is my Herd hierarchy.
And with that, Nick Wright is now joining us Live.
I know you think, let me explain, let me explain Denver.
Speaker 4 (08:24):
Now.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
I know you don't think Denver's that good, But my
takeaway is I'm looking at people that can match up
a little with Kansas City and their O line in
D line pressure at least makes it interesting. I don't
know if anybody else does, and I don't think I'm
over the top.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
I think they've refound.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Kansas City looks like Kansas City three years ago.
Speaker 5 (08:45):
Absolutely, and starting next week, Kansas City will have the
best receiving corps it has had since Tyree Kill was
on the team. And for the first time in three years,
Colin Patrick trusts his offensive line even last week to
your point with a backup offensive left tackle, shout out
Brett Veach, who this summer signed Jalen Moore to be
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the starting left tackle. Then Josh Simmons falls to him
in the draft. He's the starting left tackle. And last year,
after the Chiefs had four different left tackles, none of
whom really could play the position except for their left
guard Joe Tony, who had to go over and play it,
they now seem to have an excellent rookie and a
really good swing tackle, and so I think the Chiefs
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are you are correct there. I know this is a
very difficult and sad day for jamac as the Chiefs
are back where they deserve a top third hierarchy. But
I do think you, Colin, I want to talk about
the Broncos. You're right because I agree with everything you said.
Nick Benito might be the best defensive player in football
at this very moment.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
On the offensive line is excellent.
Speaker 5 (09:51):
I see Sean Payton scheming guys wide open three to
five times a game, and then I see bo Nicks
miss him by five yard. Can you in the modern
NFL be the third best team in the league with
a quarterback playing as poorly as bo Nicks as playing
week in week out. He has his moments like the
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fourth quarter a couple weeks ago against Billy where he
was excellent, but on a down to down basis, he
has not been good. And I don't think it's unfair
to say, Colin that if Denver were playing twenty nine
of the other thirty two teams this Sunday past Sunday morning,
they'd have lost that game. I think only the Jets
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and the Brian Callahan Titans find.
Speaker 4 (10:37):
A way to lose it.
Speaker 5 (10:38):
So this past week didn't exactly raise my hopes about Denver.
But the old line is excellent and the defense is spectacular,
which is carrying them.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
So I watched the Bills last night and I'm going
to throw this at you. I said, there was a
moment Mark Jackson was a good coach, but he was
a good you kind of felt like, boys, Steph Curry
needs his conductor and they get Steve Kerr And you're like, okay,
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So defense is easier to coach, you would argue than offense.
There's a lot more movement. It has to be more
choreographed on average, certainly in football. And so it worked.
And I watched Sean McDermott, I'm like, he's fine. Is
he Mark Jackson? Because once again, because once you pay,
as you know, once you pay the quarterback, you're not
going to be great.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
You have to be.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
Able to turn Juju Smith Schuster into a reliable target
and Hollywood Brown into more than just a kind of
a talented guy. And Andy Reid can do it. Andy
can tweak. He's the engineer. He lifts the hood up,
he can tweak. Sean McDermott feels like a really good supervisor.
Are the Bills issues really the coach?
Speaker 5 (11:52):
I think it's multi faceted. I think the defense isn't
that good this year. I think that's more probably on
Bean than the coach. I think that here's the tough
part for me. Well, let me start with the coach,
then I'll get to Josh. In all of NFL history,
and I keep going back to this stat because I
think it's instructive, every single coach quarterback combo that has
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ever won at least one Super Bowl together won their
first Super Bowl together within five years of being together.
For McDermott and Allen, and by the way, Lamar and Hardball,
this is year eight. No one else has taken this
long to have it happen and then.
Speaker 4 (12:37):
It actually happened.
Speaker 5 (12:38):
So history tells us for either of those teams to
get over the hump, they probably will need to at
some point make a change and listen. I think Sean
McDermott is under massive pressure. I think he's a good coach,
and I think the Mark Jackson comp could be a
good one, a good coach, but they've reached their limit there.
With that said, and I think Josh Allen is pretty
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clearly the second best quarterback in football, and he's a
great player, and that MVP last year made him a
future Hall of Famer. But he lives in a narrative
space with the media that.
Speaker 4 (13:13):
Is so unique to me.
Speaker 5 (13:15):
I watched after Week three when they beat the Dolphins
and he played great. One of the most respected members
of the national media say he plays the position better
than anyone in the history of the league. And last
week he turns the ball over three times and they
are and they lose, scoring fourteen points. And you showed
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the key fourth down where he flips it like that.
They have the ball three separate times in the fourth
quarter of the chance to tie the game, and people
seem hesitant to say, hey, Josh, the last two weeks
got outplayed by Drake May and got outplayed by Michael Pinnix.
Speaker 4 (13:59):
That shouldn't happen.
Speaker 5 (14:00):
And so I think he's the second best player in
the league. I really do, But he's not beyond criticism.
I do think the Bills have structural issues, but the
biggest issue last night was with the offense, and that
to me is more on Josh than anyone else.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
So last night, yeah, So I want to talk about
Bears and go a little deep on this is that
if you look at through five games compared to last year,
they're a touchdown a game better, and that's a lot.
Last year, seven of the twelve Bears losses were one possession,
so a touchdown is different. But their energy last night
was incredible. But my takeaway and the Bears this year,
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they've just eliminated the ridiculous losing on a hail Mary
when your player is chatting with fans, losing as the
clock runs out in Detroit, losing six to three, losing
a game with a block kick.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
They just run the ball and don't turn it over.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
That so much of what's because I still think Jayden
Daniels last night is more refined, more accurate, and more consistent.
Caleb was okay, But my takeaway is the Bears have
the talent to be really dangerous, like I'm talking Conference
championship biable with their skilled people in their pass rush.
What Ben's really done is said, let's just get rid
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of the nonsense, run the ball and don't turn it over.
I don't think the play calling is unbelievable. They just
don't beat themselves, is what I'm seeing.
Speaker 5 (15:26):
So yes, I agree with you, and listen. They have
back to back twenty five twenty four wins by the
skin of their teeth, one against a Raider team that
isn't good even though I thought it would be. And
one against a Commander team that I think is pretty good,
and that's out. Then the Margins are in this league.
If they missed the field goal last night, or missed
the field goal again, or you know, the Raiders drive
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down the field and beat them, we're talking. It's a
totally different conversation around the Bears, and they're probably not
much worse or much better.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
They had to win last night.
Speaker 5 (15:56):
You can't win the turnover battle three nothing in that
spot and lose that game. And I also think that
the how crowded the NFC playoff picture is, last night's
game might be a tiebreaker that determines a playoff spot
between these two teams.
Speaker 4 (16:13):
It was wildly important.
Speaker 5 (16:15):
Where I would be optimistic if i'm Chicago is I
don't think Caleb has played great yet. I think he
will continue to get better. I do think you're right
that Ben Johnson is right now on the most vanilla
part of the playbook as he slowly tries to build
it up. I also, however, do want to be fair,
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and I know Jaden has earned far more of a
benefit of doubt van Caleb and I know last night
was weird and Jaden's coming off an injury and it
was rainy, but the pick Jaden threw took points off
the board and was brutal. And if Caleb Williams had
mishandled a snap into a fumble with four minutes left
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in a game they were leading, we would be killing
I'm not trying to kill Jayden for it, by the way.
Speaker 4 (17:02):
It was a weird game.
Speaker 5 (17:03):
Mistakes happened, But I do think we have to be
you know, kind of measured and fair with the expectations
for Caleb where they're at now. I also think it
you know, if you would have asked anyone in the
world going into the draft, who the overwhelming consensus who's
the best was Caleb at the end of last year,
the overwhelming consensus would have been Jayden. Right now this moment,
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it feels like the overwhelming consensus would be Drake may Like,
these things are fluid and it's going to there's going
to be a lot of different iterations over the next
three four seasons between those top three picks.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
So I want to end with Baker Mayfield because you know,
I've told you this, I like him.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
I think he's a good guy.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
I just I thought he was a reach at number one,
and I didn't think he had the maturity I wanted
to in a dysfunctional Cleveland, and I thought that's not
a great fit. And it ended up when Stefanski got there,
it wasn't a great fit, even though he won a
playoff game. But I watch him now and he said,
you know, he used to say cocky and now I'm
a dog and it's all the same. And my take is,
you're too smart not to grow up. We all grow up.
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We all learn from our mistakes. If you're reasonably bright.
Why do you think because he's six' one not a super,
athlete he's always thrown a great deep. Ball what do
you think to turn around is he says he's the same.
GUY i think he's to smart to be the same.
Guy what do you how do you explain this metamorphosis
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in his young.
Speaker 5 (18:29):
Career, WELL i agree with him in this regard that
him chirping at the fan that he did In seattle
would have been met with scorn had he done it
as a, rookie and now is met with you, know
that's what Makes baker. Baker but that IS i, mean
that's not unique to. HIM i mean what he SAID
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i think is. Correct was IT i know this is
cliche and it's, fiction.
Speaker 4 (18:55):
But was it any given? Sunday what was it.
Speaker 5 (18:57):
Where the guy would throw up before the game or
during the. Game and one of his teammates was, like,
listen if we're, winning people will think that's, awesome and
if we're, losing they're gonna say you're. Scared it's the
same thing like that is pretty common across. SPORTS i, think,
honestly what happened With baker was he got better as
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his career went.
Speaker 4 (19:19):
On he you, know became a more refined.
Speaker 5 (19:22):
PLAYER i think he understood better his limitations as far
as his speed and ability to escape the pass. Rush
and now his best scrambles seemed to be where it
looks like he's dead to rights and it's less about
speed and more about. Toughness and SO i think that has.
HELPED i think he is. Now you, know he is
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in a far more functional organization than The. Browns he
has better, weapons even though this past week they were all.
Hurt AND i also do think in professional, football the
thing he has that really has all always mattered is
he is AND i know it sounds, corny but he
is a true, alpha and those guys love. HIM i
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think that when you're a to, me it is the
opposite of the DYNAMIC i feel Between tua and his.
Teammates it feels Like tua's teammates are waiting for him
to throw them under the.
Speaker 4 (20:22):
BUS i think they roll their.
Speaker 5 (20:24):
EYES i think he makes a bunch of mistakes and
then he talks about other guys being late for, meetings
AND i think that has a real negative.
Speaker 4 (20:32):
Impact on the.
Speaker 5 (20:33):
TEAM i think with The, bucks they See baker to
the exact. Opposite always build guys, up always try to
lead from the front and be one of the toughest
guys playing the, position and it gives everyone more. Confidence
it makes everyone play, better and SO i think it's
an all time great. STORY i think to be a
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walk on to A Heisman trophy win or a number one,
pick to trade and to cut to fighting With Kyle
transford job to now be THE mvp of the league
through six weeks and it looks like it's going to
come down to him And patrick over the course of
the year is really one of the coolest stories in
my professional career in this.
Speaker 4 (21:14):
League it's such.
Speaker 5 (21:15):
A unique arc and one that no one else is
going to. Have And, COLIN i think they are super.
Dangerous they have a tough next six weeks and in
the end of the year they Have carolina, twice they Have,
arizona they Have New, orleans they Have, atlanta they have
one OTHER i Think. Miami they could go into the
playoffs thirteen and, four the number one.
Speaker 4 (21:37):
Seed a six game winning.
Speaker 5 (21:38):
Streak this can absolutely be a Super bowl team and
he absolutely can be THE mvp of the.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
League Nick, wright first things, first as, Always, buddy great
talking to.
Speaker 4 (21:47):
You Great Scenia.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
Kam yeah it.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
Is. YEAH i mean when you look At, baker that's
a franchise. Quarterback, similarly when you look At Sam, darnold you,
know a lot of people are, like, Hey sam's a great. Story,
No Gino, smith that was a great. Story he's not
a great. Player baker's a great. Player sam's a great.
Player there are great stories Like Justin, Fields oh he's
gonna Be he's not a great, player and it's not
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even a good. Player so but The Donald baker stuff
is about this new group of lots and lots of
smart football out. There for older, coaches willing to embrace,
it or younger coaches. Ascending But donald's a franchise. Quarterback
there's no reason For seattle to draft. One they've got their,
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guy and for the, Record minnesota probably privately wishes they still.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
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Speaker 8 (23:13):
Moving got a scurry to look up analytics on The Urban.
DICTIONARY i don't know what that, means but let's start
With tua and The Miami. Dolphins, colin here's a team,
here not. Analytics it's not working. Anyway to a question
the leadership of The dolphins after That chargers, loss his
head Coach mike McDaniel addressed to his comments On monday.
Speaker 9 (23:36):
After a loss as as the franchise, quarterback that's not
the form to displace. THAT i think he knows that.
NOW i do honestly believe it was. Not there's no ill,
intention but you're you're talking about, uh you, KNOW i
think kind of a misguided representation of player orchestrated film.
Speaker 8 (23:59):
SESSION i Like Daniel, man but he sounds Like colin
one of these like seventh graders standing up in front
of the, class who uh, like come, on.
Speaker 7 (24:09):
Dude you're a head.
Speaker 8 (24:10):
Coach he's not looking senatorial at the podium. Again McDaniel
made the playoffs twice In. MIAMI i do believe he's
a good. Coach sometimes is your first go, round it's
not great as a head. Coach you could Have Cliff
kingsbury In arizona and commanding the locker. Room i'm not
selling all My mike McDaniel stock.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
Yet i'll just think he's a good football. COACH i
don't know if he's a head coach we'll find.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
Out there is something to be.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
Said do you think it's a coincidence that Overnight Mike
frabels created a culture, Overnight Jim harbaugh created a culture,
Overnight sean.
Speaker 8 (24:46):
McVay these guys are sixty years, old McDaniel. Decades, McVay
i thought you, Said, okay all, Right, no doesn't take.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
Decades you can create a culture if you're the. Guy
but by the, Way saban did it in a year
and a, half he's five. Six it's not about how
big you. Are there is something to be said about
the ability to command and intimidate and get people to
rally around. You it's always been to my knock on.
McDaniel he's a little, squirrely he's. Smart i'd hire him
in one second to be MY. Oc but there is
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something to be said when you look at all the
culture builders in THE, NFL a lot of them are
like Intimidating. Vrabel Mike tomlin's a Great you've always, Said
Zach taylor? Smart is he a culture?
Speaker 7 (25:30):
Building, well it's tough some of these young.
Speaker 8 (25:32):
Guys okay mcveigh's one example of a young guy who
came in.
Speaker 7 (25:35):
And built A Colt.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
Shanahan excellent.
Speaker 8 (25:37):
Job shanahan's father was a. Coach he's been around football
since he was. Eight, LIKE i, mean, again it's really
tough for these guys to come in and we Thowt
callahan And. Tennessee he got. Dusted his dad was a
coach forever he came. In he couldn't handle the. Rooms
he's gone in twenty. Games, Again i'm probably higher on
most than. McDaniel and maybe you're. Right he's not a,
general he's more of a lieutenant or whatever the ranking.
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IS i do think that this game is. Interesting you,
see The browns are. Three it was two and a half.
YESTERDAY i hit The. BROWNS i think The browns defense
at home bottles them. Up the weather looks like it
could be in. Clement, yep you know to in bad.
Weather this is a weather. Game, yeah so we both
like The. Browns all, right let's move. On this is
an interesting. Story This Matt, Rule, okay The nebraska. Coach
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he's being linked To Penn. State feldman talked about it
yesterday here on the. Show but it's deeper than. That
The Penn state ad.
Speaker 7 (26:30):
Used to be At. Temple he Hired. Rule they have
a deep relationship.
Speaker 8 (26:33):
Anyway rule was asked about the rumors. Yesterday here's what
he said At.
Speaker 10 (26:36):
Nebraska i'm not going to talk a lot about job
openings when they. Come this is maybe it's been a while,
here but this is what happens when you. Win i've
dealt with. It you, Know we've won a temple AND
i dealt with it all the, time dealt With. Baylor
i'm not going to talk about those things. Ever i'm
not gonna talk about my contract. Here i'm gonna talk
about the. Team but, YEAH i absolutely love it here
AND i just want TO i want us to continue
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to take the steps needed for us to turn this
thing into a. Beast But i'm really happy here and
excited to get going this week On.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
Minnesota, YEAH i you, know there's if you're making eight
nine seven eight nine million dollars and your family's. HAPPY
i think nil and transfer. Portal it used to be
about facilities and. Geography who's got the most. Money oregon
has more money than big City. Seattle that's Why oregon's.
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Better they go buy better. Players and by the, Way
Ohio state had big nil. Money Is columbus blowing you
away as a place all player they've got more. Money
so it doesn't matter if you have a GOOD, nil
if you're in that twelve million dollar space and the
staff is, HAPPY i don't THINK i hear. This you,
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Know Kurt signetti's going To Penn. State just show me What.
Indiana i'm looking At indiana's defensive front and their pass
rush and their, quarterback And i'm, like somebody's spending money
In indiana football to buy good. Players SO i JUST
i don't THINK i remember fifteen years ago When oregon
built these crazy, facilities it became a facilities.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
War it's not usc built.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
Facilities it's because they're nil's twenty million a.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
Year that's why they're buying good.
Speaker 8 (28:13):
Players so it seems like a lot of fans are,
like wait a, minute you Hired, franklin who couldn't beat good,
teams and now you want to bring On Matt, rule
who is wait for, it.
Speaker 7 (28:23):
Two and twenty three.
Speaker 8 (28:24):
Colin against ranked, opponents which Is James franklin's. Territories now
the counter, is, hey, man you're two and twenty three
against rank opponents when you're coaching At temple And nebraska
and your big. Underdogs what Would rule do if he, Had,
OH i don't know the five star recruits That Penn state.
Speaker 7 (28:40):
Has maybe it's a different.
Speaker 8 (28:41):
Story and then of course we had someone smart on
the staff, say, well, Wait, jake what Did rule do
In carolina With Baker mayfield And Sam.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
Darnold and then.
Speaker 7 (28:52):
You're, like, oh he didn't do.
Speaker 8 (28:53):
Much now you could say the owner was getting in
the way and meddling and maker maybe it just wasn't
a good, fit and you can make.
Speaker 7 (28:59):
Excuses there's no right answer. Here this is a fascinating.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
Story That rule would not be my choice At Penn.
STATE i think he's a fine. Coach signetti would be
a GUY i would look. At but IF i Was Kurt,
signetti is it worth moving rebuilding it again for another
two million? Dollars now he's From, pennsylvania they're.
Speaker 7 (29:18):
Going to offer him more than ten million dollars Coming.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
Well If adidas, Comes adidas has a Big Penn state.
Deal if they give him fifteen million dollars a, Year
i'm almost doubling my.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
Money THEN i have to sit down and have a.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
Conversation BUT i, mean, Listen indiana just went and Beat
oregon In. Notason you can play with. Anybody there's an
argument they're the best team in the.
Speaker 7 (29:36):
COUNTRY i, mean but it's tougher than.
Speaker 8 (29:38):
That you, know you've got a factor in your wife
and what she wants to be.
Speaker 7 (29:42):
Around maybe your wife Loves. BLOOMINGTON i don't.
Speaker 8 (29:44):
Know maybe this is his dream. Job you, Know like
there's a lot of stuff out. There this is going
to be an interesting one Because i'll be, HONEST i
don't know That Penn state's as great of a job
as we think it. Is i'm just putting, That, like
if you're ranking the big ten jobs coming and you'll
probably have client on, tomorrow Is Penn state a top five?
Speaker 3 (30:02):
Job, yes you, sure go down the.
Speaker 7 (30:06):
List come, On.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
Ohio state, One michigan, TWO, Usc, Oregon Penn, state.
Speaker 7 (30:16):
Were Certain Penn states checking n?
Speaker 3 (30:18):
Five, yeah four or?
Speaker 7 (30:20):
Five you, Know, Okay i'll give it to. You final
Story colin Is Nick, benito one.
Speaker 8 (30:25):
Of the best edge rushers in, football leading THE nfl
in sacks with. Eight right, now he was part of
the defense that held The jets to eleven. Points remember
last Year Pat sertan with The Defensive player of The.
Speaker 7 (30:38):
Year he's now Suggesting benito should win the.
Speaker 8 (30:41):
Award the numbers for him are pretty damn good coming
off the.
Speaker 7 (30:45):
Edge he.
Speaker 8 (30:46):
Is he's probably gonna Maul Jackson dart this. Weekend this
is one of my one of the GAMES i like a,
lot AND i know it's a big number for The.
Broncos they didn't just, cover But Jackson dart against his
defense is going to be in a hell of.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
Trouble.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
Well, also remember when can a coach coach the hardest
when his team plays poorly yet. Wins, yeah, So Sean,
payton this is going to be a rough week of.
Practice this is also one of MY i think this
is my third favorite bet or fourth favorite. BET i
already turned my bets in so to the, staff and It's.
TUESDAY i usually wait Until. Thursday, uh this is one
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of the ONES i. Like you're turning on the same
page on a. COUPLE i think THAT i Think cleveland watch,
out AND i Think denver's gonna come hair on.
Speaker 8 (31:29):
Fire, YEAH i, mean you're turning in In matthew McConaughey
two for the. Money you remember he was just turning
in his bets early in the weekend going. Golfing well
that's when he was on a.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
Heater you go four and.
Speaker 8 (31:37):
One this is what, happened you get all. Excited, uh
just a quick, NOTE i am concerned For. Denver Bo
nick's still not playing. Great, Colin at what point are we, like,
oh it's a sophomore, slow because WE'RE i think we're
a little past that now Right he's he just didn't.
Speaker 7 (31:53):
LISTEN i know the.
Speaker 8 (31:54):
Story with The jets couldn't do. Anything Bon NICKS i
think had like something like three first downs in the second,
half like they couldn't move the.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
Football he has not been a good deep ball. Thrower
and they have deep ball receivers So sutton And mems
And franklin can get. Deep he has struggled in the deep,
ball not just missing deep ball, throws like missing them.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
Badly he may not be a great deep ball.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
THROWER i remember coming into the draft people Said Derek
carr has a better, arm And derek didn't have a great.
Army he had a fine. Arm so maybe it may
just be Bo nicks as eighteen yards and. End he's
not a good deep ball. Thrower AND i think what
Frustrates peyton is they have a deep ball receiving cor.
Yep sutton And mims And franklin all have excellent length and.
Speaker 3 (32:36):
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Speaker 1 (33:14):
One SO i remember years ago When Lou panello was
managing The cubs and The cubs got into a big playoff.
Series this is a long time, ago and he made
a pitching change and he was, like, Hey i'm gonna
set it up for later in the. Series and my take,
was you're The. Cubs win the game in front of,
You you're The. Cubs and so when They, dodgers AND
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i Love Dave, roberts he's a regular on the. Show
when they took Out Blake, SNELL i WISH i Had
Dave roberts today because this is a ten minute. Conversation to,
ME i would have Kept snelling for a lot of.
Reasons number, one he just threw the Greatest dodger postseason
performance probably Since. Cofax that puts enormous pressure on the
bullpen because he's sitting on the dugout, steps and that's
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better than Even kersha on the. Playoffs so there's that. Pressure,
also he went To Roki, sazaki who's not a natural.
Closer he's a, rookie and this Is game one against
the Team milwaukee that led baseball in, hits or at
least The National. League so the, SIR i would Use
roki at home At Dodger stadium with a more comfortable,
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LEAD i would use, it maybe not in a Crucial
game one on the, road BUT i think the pressure
on the staff And roki in that, moment who's not
a natural. Closer he's done a good. Job but that's
this is Not mariano Or Roley. Fingers that's not what
we're talking. About as a young. Kid game one on the,
road you're in a you, KNOW i, mean let's be, Honest,
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snell just through the greatest GAME i Think i've seen
a starting pitcher throw in a playoff. Game they could
not get good contact on. Him And snell's a guy
that actually Gets he's really good post one hundred, pitches
really good Like eer goes. Down so this is not
in the previous innings he had shown nowhere and. Tear
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So Dave roberts takeaway is, listen he was at one
hundred and two hundred and three. Pitches we're thinking about
setting up For game. Five it reminds me of that
Lou panela moment with the, Cops, like win the game
in front of, you worry about, tomorrow tomorrow when you
get to THE, nlcs The alcs of The World.
Speaker 3 (35:20):
Series just win the. Game just win the.
Speaker 1 (35:22):
Game we'll figure it. Out these are pro. Athletes, hell
you may bring in a. Starter you may bring In
snell for an inning In game.
Speaker 3 (35:29):
Six you just make it.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
Up that's why analytics in baseball or THE nba and
THE nba analytics are silly in the playoffs because it's
literally officiated. Differently they don't blow the, whistle so you're
not getting to the free throw line in the. Playoffs
they're gonna let you. Play and in, baseball you'll you'll
starters in the, pen you will manage it totally. Differently so,
Again Dave roberts forgets more in a day Than i've
known in my life about. Baseball but when they pulled him,
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on like he's not, Struggling i've never seen anything like.
This milwaukee is a great hitting. Team they could not
get bat on. BALL i mean they he Made milwaukee
look like a TRIPLE a. Lineup they were. Behind his
off speed stuff was just on. Fire SO i wouldn't
have done. It so The, brewers my. Bad there were
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third in hits Second National, league behind The.
Speaker 3 (36:16):
Phillies my. Bad but that was a classic.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
Example like there's a, man he's on the, mound He's Cofax,
ANALYTICS i want him.
Speaker 3 (36:27):
CLOSING i want.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
Him it's like AN nba playoff game where a guy's
at forty four, minutes he's an older, player And i'm, like,
BRO i just want HIS iq on the. Floor lebron's
had some of. Those you're, like, well he's blown way
through his. Minutes we need to win the. Game Keep
lebron in the. Game so you, KNOW i get the
Reasoning analytics says pull. Him but and also again an unnatural,
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closer he's a starter rookie on the road against the,
team and he didn't have his, stuff AND i think
some of it was BECAUSE i was last outing was.
GREAT i honestly think That Blake snell was so good
it put more pressure On. ROKIE i, mean can you
imagine Watching Don lars And sandy go Facts he moved through,
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it and it's, like, YEAH i want to sit in
a dugout and watch, you watch, you and then a
man gets on and then a guy gets solid bat on,
it and you're, like, oh this thing is unraveling. Fast
But dave trusts his. Guys he wanted to Get blake
out there to his reliever in the. Pen thank god
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they swung in a bad pitch if you're A dodger,
Fan but it is that classic EXAMPLE i tend to
look when you get into. These you, know, obviously in
a one game setting in college or pro, football you
win the. Game but a lot of times managers in
baseball are, about, HEY i want to set up my.
BULLPEN i want to get my guys back on their regular.
Rotation but, MAN i could be in the. Minority maybe
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dodg your fans were all for, it but that dude
was that IS i had THE tv on my big
screen last, night And i'm, like they're not Even they're
swinging at bad. Pitches he is In milwaukee's. Head these
guys don't want to even go up. There ask yourself,
this what do you Think milwaukee's batters did when they
Pulled Blake?
Speaker 3 (38:19):
Snell?
Speaker 1 (38:20):
Hallelujah ask, yourself what did The brewers batters? Do they
would much rather face the kid in a huge spot
on the road Than, blake even if it's for the fourth. Time,
like nobody wanted to face that. Guy so that's my man.
List sometimes guy in a, heater let him, go just
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blow through the, analytics let him. Go Peyton manninglow has
said this about football. Analytics he, said everybody's always, like
go for, it he, Goes, well it depends on the,
drive he. Goes i've had drives where you're picking up
first downs by a foot all the way down the,
Field like four yards is, hard he. Goes other, times chunk,
play chunk, play he, goes chunk, plays go for, it he.
Speaker 3 (39:04):
Goes but not all fourth and threes are the.
Speaker 1 (39:06):
Same at, midfield there are you going into games and
you're getting worked up, front and fourth and three is
fourth and, eight and you cannot run the. Ball guard center,
guard and they know you can't run the, Ball so
the performance outweighs the. Equation last, night the performance outweighed the.
Equation that was just my take our Three Robert mays
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Wherever you may be and however you may be listening.
Thanks for making us part of your day. So we
do the top ten every week at this time. And
there are these teams out there that I think are
pretty good, the Rams, the Chargers, the Bills. But I
sit and I go through all the numbers, and I again,
this is not standing.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
I consider your help. Puka Nakua out for the Rams.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
That's not the same offense you got running backs that
struggling with the Ravens. So I count what's your health like?
I don't care what you did Sunday? What is your
health like going forward? What do you do with San Francisco?
No bosa, no Fred Warner from last year, no hufunga,
no green law. I mean Robert Sla has limitations. So
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here we go our herd hierarchy on this Tuesday.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
Heard hierarchy time.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Now go the top ten NFL teams according to College
Number ten.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
New England Patriots' easiest NFL schedule going forward.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
This is not a mirage.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Drake May leads ranks top five and completion percentage, passing yards,
big plays, and passer rating. He's getting better than average protection,
He's got a running game. The kid moves well. Easy
schedule three and zero. Also, as Jamak pointed out last week,
since Christian Zalez, the cornerback, has returned three and up,
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number nine, number nine, the Steelers listen. They don't turn
it over and they take it away. That does count
as a good trait. They're taking the football away now.
They're not facing great quarterbacks, but their only loss came
to the Seahawks, a team.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
That is better.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
They're the second least penalized team, and they have a
receiving corps and a tight end corep that looks like
an NBA front line that looks like the Dallas Mavericks.
Everybody's six six and up, so they are using some
height advantages, some size advantages. They don't throw it down
the field, but it's working. Pittsburgh at nine.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Number eight.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
I like the Colts.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
I think they have the second best offensive line in
football to Detroit, fewest sacks allowed in the NFL Indianapolis.
They are scoring on sixty two and a half percent
of their drives.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
They also should have beaten the Rams.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
They have the number one scoring offense, leaves the NFL
in first downs again Warren the rookie Pittman Jonathan Taylor,
a top two or three offensive line.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
Daniel Jones this year. All you need to know.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
He's completing over seventy one percent of his throws. I
think they have a ceiling. I don't think they're a
conference championship team yet. They may be this weekend if
they beat the Chargers, I may reassess. But I have
the Colts at number eight, number seven.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
Green Bay.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
They're young and can't figure out how to put away
inferior teams, but all three wins have come by thirteen
plus points. I like Jordan Love He's more far than
Aaron Rodgers. He could get a little careless, but they're
the best third down offense in the NFL and you
can't run on them. They're the opposite of the Bills.
You can't run on them. So they're doing a little
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bit of takeaway this year, which they haven't historically done.
Craft's an unbelievable tight end. I like this team a lot.
They're very young, which concerns me. The quarterbacks, the receivers,
the tight end really young. But Jeff Hafley's got that
defense can't run on it, and they're taking it away.
Green Bay at seven, number six, Well, Seattle was my
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surprise pick in the NFL this year. New England and Seattle.
They lead the NFL in yards per play. That is
a huge stat and if you watch them, jsn is
absolutely become a number one ride receiver in this league.
Sam Darnold, according to PFF, is the highest rated quarterback
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in the NFL. I think Baker would be my MVP.
But they can run it. They can get you over
the top, they throw to their tight ends. They are
young and athletic defensively and lead the league in yards
per play. Vegas loves that number Number five, Philadelphia thirtieth
ranked offense. I mean, it's pretty simple. When Jalen Hurts
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throws the ball thirty three times, plus they're not good.
When he throws at twenty five times, they win. I
do think they're eventually going to to some degree right
the ship. But they've been out gained in every game
this season, and they have had three or four of
the worst halfs in the league thirty punts this year,
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only Cleveland the Bengals have more. So their personnel puts
them at five, but I'm not sure they're at five.
Let's see him play Minnesota. Let's see Minnesota off of
BIBE hosting Philadelphia. I may knock him out of the
top ten like I've done Buffalo.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Number four.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
I think Detroit's good.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
I just think Kansas City is separated from the league
four games with thirty four plus points, best offensive line.
They're doing something that the Lions haven't done. And I
said this last week. A lot of sacks, a lot
of takeaways. They have the hardest remaining schedule. Again, this
is a really good football team. What Kansas City did
to them, nobody else in the league, in my opinion could.
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In fact, they play Tampa this week, and I think
Detroit is gonna win that game and maybe comfortably.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
Detroit at four. Number three, Colin, what are you doing
putting Sean Payton at Denver at three.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
Do you know they are the best in the league
at protecting their quarterback and the best in the league
at getting after yours. I think they're one of the
few teams that actually can make Kansas City a little
uncomfortable high altitude for home games. I like their weapons.
I don't think bo Nicks is playing particularly well, but
they You can't get to bon Nicks and he's had
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I think he should run more. You can't get to him,
and they get after your quarterback. So they have the
number one ranked offensive line, best third down defense, best
red zone defense. They don't have to be great at quarterback.
They can play poorly and win, like this past week.
I have them at three number two Tampa's five and one.
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They could also be two and four, but Baker Mayfield
it would be my MVP. They are playing without their
number one receiver, their number two receiver, their number three receiver,
their number four receiver. They're going to a D two
guy in Tez Johnson, no Bucky Irving. Baker Mayfield has
accounted for seventeen hundred yards. Only Mahomes has accounted for more.
I think they're resilient. I think they're tough and they're
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doing it. I've always liked their GM. They are doing
it right now with backups. I think Tampa's two number one,
but I don't think it's particularly close. I think Kansas
City is with Rashi Rice coming back, he's not going
to get thirteen targets in his first week back. He'll
probably get four to six. But Hollywood Brown, Juju Smith,
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Travis Worthy o line didn't even have their left tackle.
This is a good football team suffocating defensively. I said
when they beat the Ravens, I don't want to hear
about injuries. They physically stopped Lamar. Lamar was completely not
only in his head, he could didn't have any space.
So to the Colts, they have the second most efficient offense.
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They're not giving the ball away. I mean to play.
Detroit did not have a penalty, not have a turnover
in one punt. Detroit's good, really good. That's why I
only dropped him to four. This is my Herd hierarchy.
And with that, Nick Wright is now joining us Live.
I know you think, let me explain, let me explain Denver.
Speaker 4 (08:24):
Now.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
I know you don't think Denver's that good, But my
takeaway is I'm looking at people that can match up
a little with Kansas City and their O line in
D line pressure at least makes it interesting. I don't
know if anybody else does, and I don't think I'm
over the top.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
I think they've refound.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Kansas City looks like Kansas City three years ago.
Speaker 5 (08:45):
Absolutely, and starting next week, Kansas City will have the
best receiving corps it has had since Tyree Kill was
on the team. And for the first time in three years,
Colin Patrick trusts his offensive line even last week to
your point with a backup offensive left tackle, shout out
Brett Veach, who this summer signed Jalen Moore to be
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the starting left tackle. Then Josh Simmons falls to him
in the draft. He's the starting left tackle. And last year,
after the Chiefs had four different left tackles, none of
whom really could play the position except for their left
guard Joe Tony, who had to go over and play it,
they now seem to have an excellent rookie and a
really good swing tackle, and so I think the Chiefs
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are you are correct there. I know this is a
very difficult and sad day for jamac as the Chiefs
are back where they deserve a top third hierarchy. But
I do think you, Colin, I want to talk about
the Broncos. You're right because I agree with everything you said.
Nick Benito might be the best defensive player in football
at this very moment.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
On the offensive line is excellent.
Speaker 5 (09:51):
I see Sean Payton scheming guys wide open three to
five times a game, and then I see bo Nicks
miss him by five yard. Can you in the modern
NFL be the third best team in the league with
a quarterback playing as poorly as bo Nicks as playing
week in week out. He has his moments like the
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fourth quarter a couple weeks ago against Billy where he
was excellent, but on a down to down basis, he
has not been good. And I don't think it's unfair
to say, Colin that if Denver were playing twenty nine
of the other thirty two teams this Sunday past Sunday morning,
they'd have lost that game. I think only the Jets
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and the Brian Callahan Titans find.
Speaker 4 (10:37):
A way to lose it.
Speaker 5 (10:38):
So this past week didn't exactly raise my hopes about Denver.
But the old line is excellent and the defense is spectacular,
which is carrying them.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
So I watched the Bills last night and I'm going
to throw this at you. I said, there was a
moment Mark Jackson was a good coach, but he was
a good you kind of felt like, boys, Steph Curry
needs his conductor and they get Steve Kerr And you're like, okay,
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So defense is easier to coach, you would argue than offense.
There's a lot more movement. It has to be more
choreographed on average, certainly in football. And so it worked.
And I watched Sean McDermott, I'm like, he's fine. Is
he Mark Jackson? Because once again, because once you pay,
as you know, once you pay the quarterback, you're not
going to be great.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
You have to be.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
Able to turn Juju Smith Schuster into a reliable target
and Hollywood Brown into more than just a kind of
a talented guy. And Andy Reid can do it. Andy
can tweak. He's the engineer. He lifts the hood up,
he can tweak. Sean McDermott feels like a really good supervisor.
Are the Bills issues really the coach?
Speaker 5 (11:52):
I think it's multi faceted. I think the defense isn't
that good this year. I think that's more probably on
Bean than the coach. I think that here's the tough
part for me. Well, let me start with the coach,
then I'll get to Josh. In all of NFL history,
and I keep going back to this stat because I
think it's instructive, every single coach quarterback combo that has
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ever won at least one Super Bowl together won their
first Super Bowl together within five years of being together.
For McDermott and Allen, and by the way, Lamar and Hardball,
this is year eight. No one else has taken this
long to have it happen and then.
Speaker 4 (12:37):
It actually happened.
Speaker 5 (12:38):
So history tells us for either of those teams to
get over the hump, they probably will need to at
some point make a change and listen. I think Sean
McDermott is under massive pressure. I think he's a good coach,
and I think the Mark Jackson comp could be a
good one, a good coach, but they've reached their limit there.
With that said, and I think Josh Allen is pretty
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clearly the second best quarterback in football, and he's a
great player, and that MVP last year made him a
future Hall of Famer. But he lives in a narrative
space with the media that.
Speaker 4 (13:13):
Is so unique to me.
Speaker 5 (13:15):
I watched after Week three when they beat the Dolphins
and he played great. One of the most respected members
of the national media say he plays the position better
than anyone in the history of the league. And last
week he turns the ball over three times and they
are and they lose, scoring fourteen points. And you showed
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the key fourth down where he flips it like that.
They have the ball three separate times in the fourth
quarter of the chance to tie the game, and people
seem hesitant to say, hey, Josh, the last two weeks
got outplayed by Drake May and got outplayed by Michael Pinnix.
Speaker 4 (13:59):
That shouldn't happen.
Speaker 5 (14:00):
And so I think he's the second best player in
the league. I really do, But he's not beyond criticism.
I do think the Bills have structural issues, but the
biggest issue last night was with the offense, and that
to me is more on Josh than anyone else.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
So last night, yeah, So I want to talk about
Bears and go a little deep on this is that
if you look at through five games compared to last year,
they're a touchdown a game better, and that's a lot.
Last year, seven of the twelve Bears losses were one possession,
so a touchdown is different. But their energy last night
was incredible. But my takeaway and the Bears this year,
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they've just eliminated the ridiculous losing on a hail Mary
when your player is chatting with fans, losing as the
clock runs out in Detroit, losing six to three, losing
a game with a block kick.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
They just run the ball and don't turn it over.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
That so much of what's because I still think Jayden
Daniels last night is more refined, more accurate, and more consistent.
Caleb was okay, But my takeaway is the Bears have
the talent to be really dangerous, like I'm talking Conference
championship biable with their skilled people in their pass rush.
What Ben's really done is said, let's just get rid
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of the nonsense, run the ball and don't turn it over.
I don't think the play calling is unbelievable. They just
don't beat themselves, is what I'm seeing.
Speaker 5 (15:26):
So yes, I agree with you, and listen. They have
back to back twenty five twenty four wins by the
skin of their teeth, one against a Raider team that
isn't good even though I thought it would be. And
one against a Commander team that I think is pretty good,
and that's out. Then the Margins are in this league.
If they missed the field goal last night, or missed
the field goal again, or you know, the Raiders drive
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down the field and beat them, we're talking. It's a
totally different conversation around the Bears, and they're probably not
much worse or much better.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
They had to win last night.
Speaker 5 (15:56):
You can't win the turnover battle three nothing in that
spot and lose that game. And I also think that
the how crowded the NFC playoff picture is, last night's
game might be a tiebreaker that determines a playoff spot
between these two teams.
Speaker 4 (16:13):
It was wildly important.
Speaker 5 (16:15):
Where I would be optimistic if i'm Chicago is I
don't think Caleb has played great yet. I think he
will continue to get better. I do think you're right
that Ben Johnson is right now on the most vanilla
part of the playbook as he slowly tries to build
it up. I also, however, do want to be fair,
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and I know Jaden has earned far more of a
benefit of doubt van Caleb and I know last night
was weird and Jaden's coming off an injury and it
was rainy, but the pick Jaden threw took points off
the board and was brutal. And if Caleb Williams had
mishandled a snap into a fumble with four minutes left
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in a game they were leading, we would be killing
I'm not trying to kill Jayden for it, by the way.
Speaker 4 (17:02):
It was a weird game.
Speaker 5 (17:03):
Mistakes happened, But I do think we have to be
you know, kind of measured and fair with the expectations
for Caleb where they're at now. I also think it
you know, if you would have asked anyone in the
world going into the draft, who the overwhelming consensus who's
the best was Caleb at the end of last year,
the overwhelming consensus would have been Jayden. Right now this moment,
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it feels like the overwhelming consensus would be Drake may Like,
these things are fluid and it's going to there's going
to be a lot of different iterations over the next
three four seasons between those top three picks.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
So I want to end with Baker Mayfield because you know,
I've told you this, I like him.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
I think he's a good guy.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
I just I thought he was a reach at number one,
and I didn't think he had the maturity I wanted
to in a dysfunctional Cleveland, and I thought that's not
a great fit. And it ended up when Stefanski got there,
it wasn't a great fit, even though he won a
playoff game. But I watch him now and he said,
you know, he used to say cocky and now I'm
a dog and it's all the same. And my take is,
you're too smart not to grow up. We all grow up.
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We all learn from our mistakes. If you're reasonably bright.
Why do you think because he's six' one not a super,
athlete he's always thrown a great deep. Ball what do
you think to turn around is he says he's the same.
GUY i think he's to smart to be the same.
Guy what do you how do you explain this metamorphosis
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in his young.
Speaker 5 (18:29):
Career, WELL i agree with him in this regard that
him chirping at the fan that he did In seattle
would have been met with scorn had he done it
as a, rookie and now is met with you, know
that's what Makes baker. Baker but that IS i, mean
that's not unique to. HIM i mean what he SAID
(18:50):
i think is. Correct was IT i know this is
cliche and it's, fiction.
Speaker 4 (18:55):
But was it any given? Sunday what was it.
Speaker 5 (18:57):
Where the guy would throw up before the game or
during the. Game and one of his teammates was, like,
listen if we're, winning people will think that's, awesome and
if we're, losing they're gonna say you're. Scared it's the
same thing like that is pretty common across. SPORTS i, think,
honestly what happened With baker was he got better as
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his career went.
Speaker 4 (19:19):
On he you, know became a more refined.
Speaker 5 (19:22):
PLAYER i think he understood better his limitations as far
as his speed and ability to escape the pass. Rush
and now his best scrambles seemed to be where it
looks like he's dead to rights and it's less about
speed and more about. Toughness and SO i think that has.
HELPED i think he is. Now you, know he is
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in a far more functional organization than The. Browns he
has better, weapons even though this past week they were all.
Hurt AND i also do think in professional, football the
thing he has that really has all always mattered is
he is AND i know it sounds, corny but he
is a true, alpha and those guys love. HIM i
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think that when you're a to, me it is the
opposite of the DYNAMIC i feel Between tua and his.
Teammates it feels Like tua's teammates are waiting for him
to throw them under the.
Speaker 4 (20:22):
BUS i think they roll their.
Speaker 5 (20:24):
EYES i think he makes a bunch of mistakes and
then he talks about other guys being late for, meetings
AND i think that has a real negative.
Speaker 4 (20:32):
Impact on the.
Speaker 5 (20:33):
TEAM i think with The, bucks they See baker to
the exact. Opposite always build guys, up always try to
lead from the front and be one of the toughest
guys playing the, position and it gives everyone more. Confidence
it makes everyone play, better and SO i think it's
an all time great. STORY i think to be a
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walk on to A Heisman trophy win or a number one,
pick to trade and to cut to fighting With Kyle
transford job to now be THE mvp of the league
through six weeks and it looks like it's going to
come down to him And patrick over the course of
the year is really one of the coolest stories in
my professional career in this.
Speaker 4 (21:14):
League it's such.
Speaker 5 (21:15):
A unique arc and one that no one else is
going to. Have And, COLIN i think they are super.
Dangerous they have a tough next six weeks and in
the end of the year they Have carolina, twice they Have,
arizona they Have New, orleans they Have, atlanta they have
one OTHER i Think. Miami they could go into the
playoffs thirteen and, four the number one.
Speaker 4 (21:37):
Seed a six game winning.
Speaker 5 (21:38):
Streak this can absolutely be a Super bowl team and
he absolutely can be THE mvp of the.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
League Nick, wright first things, first as, Always, buddy great
talking to.
Speaker 4 (21:47):
You Great Scenia.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
Kam yeah it.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
Is. YEAH i mean when you look At, baker that's
a franchise. Quarterback, similarly when you look At Sam, darnold you,
know a lot of people are, like, Hey sam's a great. Story,
No Gino, smith that was a great. Story he's not
a great. Player baker's a great. Player sam's a great.
Player there are great stories Like Justin, Fields oh he's
gonna Be he's not a great, player and it's not
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even a good. Player so but The Donald baker stuff
is about this new group of lots and lots of
smart football out. There for older, coaches willing to embrace,
it or younger coaches. Ascending But donald's a franchise. Quarterback
there's no reason For seattle to draft. One they've got their,
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guy and for the, Record minnesota probably privately wishes they still.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
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Speaker 8 (23:13):
Moving got a scurry to look up analytics on The Urban.
DICTIONARY i don't know what that, means but let's start
With tua and The Miami. Dolphins, colin here's a team,
here not. Analytics it's not working. Anyway to a question
the leadership of The dolphins after That chargers, loss his
head Coach mike McDaniel addressed to his comments On monday.
Speaker 9 (23:36):
After a loss as as the franchise, quarterback that's not
the form to displace. THAT i think he knows that.
NOW i do honestly believe it was. Not there's no ill,
intention but you're you're talking about, uh you, KNOW i
think kind of a misguided representation of player orchestrated film.
Speaker 8 (23:59):
SESSION i Like Daniel, man but he sounds Like colin
one of these like seventh graders standing up in front
of the, class who uh, like come, on.
Speaker 7 (24:09):
Dude you're a head.
Speaker 8 (24:10):
Coach he's not looking senatorial at the podium. Again McDaniel
made the playoffs twice In. MIAMI i do believe he's
a good. Coach sometimes is your first go, round it's
not great as a head. Coach you could Have Cliff
kingsbury In arizona and commanding the locker. Room i'm not
selling all My mike McDaniel stock.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
Yet i'll just think he's a good football. COACH i
don't know if he's a head coach we'll find.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
Out there is something to be.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
Said do you think it's a coincidence that Overnight Mike
frabels created a culture, Overnight Jim harbaugh created a culture,
Overnight sean.
Speaker 8 (24:46):
McVay these guys are sixty years, old McDaniel. Decades, McVay
i thought you, Said, okay all, Right, no doesn't take.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
Decades you can create a culture if you're the. Guy
but by the, Way saban did it in a year
and a, half he's five. Six it's not about how
big you. Are there is something to be said about
the ability to command and intimidate and get people to
rally around. You it's always been to my knock on.
McDaniel he's a little, squirrely he's. Smart i'd hire him
in one second to be MY. Oc but there is
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something to be said when you look at all the
culture builders in THE, NFL a lot of them are
like Intimidating. Vrabel Mike tomlin's a Great you've always, Said
Zach taylor? Smart is he a culture?
Speaker 7 (25:30):
Building, well it's tough some of these young.
Speaker 8 (25:32):
Guys okay mcveigh's one example of a young guy who
came in.
Speaker 7 (25:35):
And built A Colt.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
Shanahan excellent.
Speaker 8 (25:37):
Job shanahan's father was a. Coach he's been around football
since he was. Eight, LIKE i, mean, again it's really
tough for these guys to come in and we Thowt
callahan And. Tennessee he got. Dusted his dad was a
coach forever he came. In he couldn't handle the. Rooms
he's gone in twenty. Games, Again i'm probably higher on
most than. McDaniel and maybe you're. Right he's not a,
general he's more of a lieutenant or whatever the ranking.
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IS i do think that this game is. Interesting you,
see The browns are. Three it was two and a half.
YESTERDAY i hit The. BROWNS i think The browns defense
at home bottles them. Up the weather looks like it
could be in. Clement, yep you know to in bad.
Weather this is a weather. Game, yeah so we both
like The. Browns all, right let's move. On this is
an interesting. Story This Matt, Rule, okay The nebraska. Coach
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he's being linked To Penn. State feldman talked about it
yesterday here on the. Show but it's deeper than. That
The Penn state ad.
Speaker 7 (26:30):
Used to be At. Temple he Hired. Rule they have
a deep relationship.
Speaker 8 (26:33):
Anyway rule was asked about the rumors. Yesterday here's what
he said At.
Speaker 10 (26:36):
Nebraska i'm not going to talk a lot about job
openings when they. Come this is maybe it's been a while,
here but this is what happens when you. Win i've
dealt with. It you, Know we've won a temple AND
i dealt with it all the, time dealt With. Baylor
i'm not going to talk about those things. Ever i'm
not gonna talk about my contract. Here i'm gonna talk
about the. Team but, YEAH i absolutely love it here
AND i just want TO i want us to continue
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to take the steps needed for us to turn this
thing into a. Beast But i'm really happy here and
excited to get going this week On.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
Minnesota, YEAH i you, know there's if you're making eight
nine seven eight nine million dollars and your family's. HAPPY
i think nil and transfer. Portal it used to be
about facilities and. Geography who's got the most. Money oregon
has more money than big City. Seattle that's Why oregon's.
(27:26):
Better they go buy better. Players and by the, Way
Ohio state had big nil. Money Is columbus blowing you
away as a place all player they've got more. Money
so it doesn't matter if you have a GOOD, nil
if you're in that twelve million dollar space and the
staff is, HAPPY i don't THINK i hear. This you,
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Know Kurt signetti's going To Penn. State just show me What.
Indiana i'm looking At indiana's defensive front and their pass
rush and their, quarterback And i'm, like somebody's spending money
In indiana football to buy good. Players SO i JUST
i don't THINK i remember fifteen years ago When oregon
built these crazy, facilities it became a facilities.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
War it's not usc built.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
Facilities it's because they're nil's twenty million a.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
Year that's why they're buying good.
Speaker 8 (28:13):
Players so it seems like a lot of fans are,
like wait a, minute you Hired, franklin who couldn't beat good,
teams and now you want to bring On Matt, rule
who is wait for, it.
Speaker 7 (28:23):
Two and twenty three.
Speaker 8 (28:24):
Colin against ranked, opponents which Is James franklin's. Territories now
the counter, is, hey, man you're two and twenty three
against rank opponents when you're coaching At temple And nebraska
and your big. Underdogs what Would rule do if he, Had,
OH i don't know the five star recruits That Penn state.
Speaker 7 (28:40):
Has maybe it's a different.
Speaker 8 (28:41):
Story and then of course we had someone smart on
the staff, say, well, Wait, jake what Did rule do
In carolina With Baker mayfield And Sam.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
Darnold and then.
Speaker 7 (28:52):
You're, like, oh he didn't do.
Speaker 8 (28:53):
Much now you could say the owner was getting in
the way and meddling and maker maybe it just wasn't
a good, fit and you can make.
Speaker 7 (28:59):
Excuses there's no right answer. Here this is a fascinating.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
Story That rule would not be my choice At Penn.
STATE i think he's a fine. Coach signetti would be
a GUY i would look. At but IF i Was Kurt,
signetti is it worth moving rebuilding it again for another
two million? Dollars now he's From, pennsylvania they're.
Speaker 7 (29:18):
Going to offer him more than ten million dollars Coming.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
Well If adidas, Comes adidas has a Big Penn state.
Deal if they give him fifteen million dollars a, Year
i'm almost doubling my.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
Money THEN i have to sit down and have a.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
Conversation BUT i, mean, Listen indiana just went and Beat
oregon In. Notason you can play with. Anybody there's an
argument they're the best team in the.
Speaker 7 (29:36):
COUNTRY i, mean but it's tougher than.
Speaker 8 (29:38):
That you, know you've got a factor in your wife
and what she wants to be.
Speaker 7 (29:42):
Around maybe your wife Loves. BLOOMINGTON i don't.
Speaker 8 (29:44):
Know maybe this is his dream. Job you, Know like
there's a lot of stuff out. There this is going
to be an interesting one Because i'll be, HONEST i
don't know That Penn state's as great of a job
as we think it. Is i'm just putting, That, like
if you're ranking the big ten jobs coming and you'll
probably have client on, tomorrow Is Penn state a top five?
Speaker 3 (30:02):
Job, yes you, sure go down the.
Speaker 7 (30:06):
List come, On.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
Ohio state, One michigan, TWO, Usc, Oregon Penn, state.
Speaker 7 (30:16):
Were Certain Penn states checking n?
Speaker 3 (30:18):
Five, yeah four or?
Speaker 7 (30:20):
Five you, Know, Okay i'll give it to. You final
Story colin Is Nick, benito one.
Speaker 8 (30:25):
Of the best edge rushers in, football leading THE nfl
in sacks with. Eight right, now he was part of
the defense that held The jets to eleven. Points remember
last Year Pat sertan with The Defensive player of The.
Speaker 7 (30:38):
Year he's now Suggesting benito should win the.
Speaker 8 (30:41):
Award the numbers for him are pretty damn good coming
off the.
Speaker 7 (30:45):
Edge he.
Speaker 8 (30:46):
Is he's probably gonna Maul Jackson dart this. Weekend this
is one of my one of the GAMES i like a,
lot AND i know it's a big number for The.
Broncos they didn't just, cover But Jackson dart against his
defense is going to be in a hell of.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
Trouble.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
Well, also remember when can a coach coach the hardest
when his team plays poorly yet. Wins, yeah, So Sean,
payton this is going to be a rough week of.
Practice this is also one of MY i think this
is my third favorite bet or fourth favorite. BET i
already turned my bets in so to the, staff and It's.
TUESDAY i usually wait Until. Thursday, uh this is one
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of the ONES i. Like you're turning on the same
page on a. COUPLE i think THAT i Think cleveland watch,
out AND i Think denver's gonna come hair on.
Speaker 8 (31:29):
Fire, YEAH i, mean you're turning in In matthew McConaughey
two for the. Money you remember he was just turning
in his bets early in the weekend going. Golfing well
that's when he was on a.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
Heater you go four and.
Speaker 8 (31:37):
One this is what, happened you get all. Excited, uh
just a quick, NOTE i am concerned For. Denver Bo
nick's still not playing. Great, Colin at what point are we, like,
oh it's a sophomore, slow because WE'RE i think we're
a little past that now Right he's he just didn't.
Speaker 7 (31:53):
LISTEN i know the.
Speaker 8 (31:54):
Story with The jets couldn't do. Anything Bon NICKS i
think had like something like three first downs in the second,
half like they couldn't move the.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
Football he has not been a good deep ball. Thrower
and they have deep ball receivers So sutton And mems
And franklin can get. Deep he has struggled in the deep,
ball not just missing deep ball, throws like missing them.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
Badly he may not be a great deep ball.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
THROWER i remember coming into the draft people Said Derek
carr has a better, arm And derek didn't have a great.
Army he had a fine. Arm so maybe it may
just be Bo nicks as eighteen yards and. End he's
not a good deep ball. Thrower AND i think what
Frustrates peyton is they have a deep ball receiving cor.
Yep sutton And mims And franklin all have excellent length and.
Speaker 3 (32:36):
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Speaker 1 (33:14):
One SO i remember years ago When Lou panello was
managing The cubs and The cubs got into a big playoff.
Series this is a long time, ago and he made
a pitching change and he was, like, Hey i'm gonna
set it up for later in the. Series and my take,
was you're The. Cubs win the game in front of,
You you're The. Cubs and so when They, dodgers AND
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i Love Dave, roberts he's a regular on the. Show
when they took Out Blake, SNELL i WISH i Had
Dave roberts today because this is a ten minute. Conversation to,
ME i would have Kept snelling for a lot of.
Reasons number, one he just threw the Greatest dodger postseason
performance probably Since. Cofax that puts enormous pressure on the
bullpen because he's sitting on the dugout, steps and that's
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better than Even kersha on the. Playoffs so there's that. Pressure,
also he went To Roki, sazaki who's not a natural.
Closer he's a, rookie and this Is game one against
the Team milwaukee that led baseball in, hits or at
least The National. League so the, SIR i would Use
roki at home At Dodger stadium with a more comfortable,
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LEAD i would use, it maybe not in a Crucial
game one on the, road BUT i think the pressure
on the staff And roki in that, moment who's not
a natural. Closer he's done a good. Job but that's
this is Not mariano Or Roley. Fingers that's not what
we're talking. About as a young. Kid game one on the,
road you're in a you, KNOW i, mean let's be, Honest,
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snell just through the greatest GAME i Think i've seen
a starting pitcher throw in a playoff. Game they could
not get good contact on. Him And snell's a guy
that actually Gets he's really good post one hundred, pitches
really good Like eer goes. Down so this is not
in the previous innings he had shown nowhere and. Tear
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So Dave roberts takeaway is, listen he was at one
hundred and two hundred and three. Pitches we're thinking about
setting up For game. Five it reminds me of that
Lou panela moment with the, Cops, like win the game
in front of, you worry about, tomorrow tomorrow when you
get to THE, nlcs The alcs of The World.
Speaker 3 (35:20):
Series just win the. Game just win the.
Speaker 1 (35:22):
Game we'll figure it. Out these are pro. Athletes, hell
you may bring in a. Starter you may bring In
snell for an inning In game.
Speaker 3 (35:29):
Six you just make it.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
Up that's why analytics in baseball or THE nba and
THE nba analytics are silly in the playoffs because it's
literally officiated. Differently they don't blow the, whistle so you're
not getting to the free throw line in the. Playoffs
they're gonna let you. Play and in, baseball you'll you'll
starters in the, pen you will manage it totally. Differently so,
Again Dave roberts forgets more in a day Than i've
known in my life about. Baseball but when they pulled him,
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on like he's not, Struggling i've never seen anything like.
This milwaukee is a great hitting. Team they could not
get bat on. BALL i mean they he Made milwaukee
look like a TRIPLE a. Lineup they were. Behind his
off speed stuff was just on. Fire SO i wouldn't
have done. It so The, brewers my. Bad there were
(36:13):
third in hits Second National, league behind The.
Speaker 3 (36:16):
Phillies my. Bad but that was a classic.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
Example like there's a, man he's on the, mound He's Cofax,
ANALYTICS i want him.
Speaker 3 (36:27):
CLOSING i want.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
Him it's like AN nba playoff game where a guy's
at forty four, minutes he's an older, player And i'm, like,
BRO i just want HIS iq on the. Floor lebron's
had some of. Those you're, like, well he's blown way
through his. Minutes we need to win the. Game Keep
lebron in the. Game so you, KNOW i get the
Reasoning analytics says pull. Him but and also again an unnatural,
(36:51):
closer he's a starter rookie on the road against the,
team and he didn't have his, stuff AND i think
some of it was BECAUSE i was last outing was.
GREAT i honestly think That Blake snell was so good
it put more pressure On. ROKIE i, mean can you
imagine Watching Don lars And sandy go Facts he moved through,
(37:16):
it and it's, like, YEAH i want to sit in
a dugout and watch, you watch, you and then a
man gets on and then a guy gets solid bat on,
it and you're, like, oh this thing is unraveling. Fast
But dave trusts his. Guys he wanted to Get blake
out there to his reliever in the. Pen thank god
(37:37):
they swung in a bad pitch if you're A dodger,
Fan but it is that classic EXAMPLE i tend to
look when you get into. These you, know, obviously in
a one game setting in college or pro, football you
win the. Game but a lot of times managers in
baseball are, about, HEY i want to set up my.
BULLPEN i want to get my guys back on their regular.
Rotation but, MAN i could be in the. Minority maybe
(37:59):
dodg your fans were all for, it but that dude
was that IS i had THE tv on my big
screen last, night And i'm, like they're not Even they're
swinging at bad. Pitches he is In milwaukee's. Head these
guys don't want to even go up. There ask yourself,
this what do you Think milwaukee's batters did when they
Pulled Blake?
Speaker 3 (38:19):
Snell?
Speaker 1 (38:20):
Hallelujah ask, yourself what did The brewers batters? Do they
would much rather face the kid in a huge spot
on the road Than, blake even if it's for the fourth. Time,
like nobody wanted to face that. Guy so that's my man.
List sometimes guy in a, heater let him, go just
(38:44):
blow through the, analytics let him. Go Peyton manninglow has
said this about football. Analytics he, said everybody's always, like
go for, it he, Goes, well it depends on the,
drive he. Goes i've had drives where you're picking up
first downs by a foot all the way down the,
Field like four yards is, hard he. Goes other, times chunk,
play chunk, play he, goes chunk, plays go for, it he.
Speaker 3 (39:04):
Goes but not all fourth and threes are the.
Speaker 1 (39:06):
Same at, midfield there are you going into games and
you're getting worked up, front and fourth and three is
fourth and, eight and you cannot run the. Ball guard center,
guard and they know you can't run the, Ball so
the performance outweighs the. Equation last, night the performance outweighed the.
Equation that was just my take our Three Robert mays
(39:31):
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