October 28, 2025 • 41 mins
Then, it’s Week 9 of the NFL season, and Colin unveils his updated Herd Hierarchy — explaining why the Kansas City Chiefs remain the clear No. 1 team in the NFL, how the Buffalo Bills have bounced back, and which teams are surging into playoff form
Nick Wright from 'First Things First' stops by The Herd to talk about Colin's new top 10 rankings, the World Series, Jordan Love and the Packers, Justin Herbert and more
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
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Speaker 1 (00:26):
Here we go, it's our two. How lucky are we
probably just happen to have another World Series games tonight
at the home of the greatest baseball team that's ever played.
You think our nuts on that just watching the Dodgers
will climb four scoreless innings. Who's wilf Klin. I don't we
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know who he is?
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Now?
Speaker 1 (00:56):
It's just remarkable. Everybody's a little bleary eyed on our staff.
You think that game was hard to stay up for
in Los Angeles, Try the Midwest.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
Hey, Colin Rowe, I'm just curious, where are you on
the whole intentional walk stuff.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
I get it, it's strategy.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
Blah blah blah, But I'm not gonna lie. You know,
we watched her. We kept the kids up for the
whole game last night. They were into it. Oh Tani's
going off having a historical game and then you walk
him every single time. That was just annoying.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
You know, I want to see the best player bat.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
I know, I get it, Baseball purists understand, but I'm
curious where you chime in on the intentional walks.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
I Barry Bonds had a stretch when he was on
you know, cream or whatever, like you couldn't get him out,
and I think I don't love it either. I don't
think it's a dynamic. But you know what, the Dodgers
have so many bats around him. I would be more
annoyed with it if he was with the Angels and
you were doing it and nobody could drive him in.
But I don't think it affects the outcome.
Speaker 4 (01:49):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
After last night, do you think Otani's gonna get any
balls to hit today.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Or they just gonna walk.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
Him every time? That's not great for the product.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
I don't yeah. I mean, like if you extrapolated out
to an entire season and nobody would pitch to O Tawny,
that would not be great. So you know, baseball has
done a good job of tweaking things. I mean, maybe
there's a new rule you can't intentionally walk anybody more
than one time.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
More than once.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
I think that's a great idea. Can you propose that
next time we have Manfred and company on No.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
I think it's I think, listen, baseball, more than any
sport in the last two years, has tweaked and all
of it's worked, and I don't think. I mean, listen,
you have exceptional players and you have to. I mean
there was a time in basketball that they were thinking
of outlawing the dunk because it was too easy for Wilt.
I mean, you you talk, you think, are there too
many three pointers in the NBA? You talk about these things,
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you table it, you see if people like it. The
tush push. We're going back and forth on the tush push.
So I do think Otawni may be the player that
creates the you can't you could. And by the way,
there is strategy involved because you want the four, so
sometimes you don't want an open base. You want to
load it up. Ground Ball gets two. So yeah, it's
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worth discussing at the winter meetings.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
I love it all.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Right, Here we go the hierarchy on a Tuesday.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Heard hierarchy time. Now go the top ten NFL teams
according to College Number ten.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Well, the Buffalo Bills are five to zero. When James
Cook rushes for one hundred yards a rush for one
hundred yards, Josh Allen only had to throw the ball
nineteen times. I don't think they're very good against the run.
Their pass defense is fine, but they're a very good team.
It's a long season. I like their on line, their
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run game, Josh Allen. They could probably use another receiving
piece against the better defenses like Kansas City, but they're
back in the top ten, number ten.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Number nine.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
New England beat them all. Put in New England nine.
You know, New England is the only team since the
fifties first eight games they haven't allowed a running back
fifty plus. So Vrabel made him tougher better against the run.
And let's just be totally frank here. Drake may looks
like a top six to seven quarterback in the league.
He may not be, but he's completing seventy five percent
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of his throws and his passer ratings one nineteen, so
the numbers say he is. Again, I think they need
another weapon. I like the running back room. They're good
enough Hunter Henry at tight end, But this is about
coaching and an exploding young star at quarterback. Don't think
they're a super Bowl team, but I have him at nine.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Number eight.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Broncos are a little inconsistent for me. I do think
Sean Payton is coaching bone Knicks. He wants him to
throw the ball down the field more and sometimes it
gets ugly. But here's the numbers you have to think of.
This team is allowed the fewest sacks in the NFL
and is also has ten more sacks than anybody in
the NFL that travels. Denver's not going anywhere. It's why
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I think they're one of the few teams that matches
up with Kansas City. You can't get the bone Knicks
and they get to your quarterback. Denver at eight. Number seven.
Bucks are all beat up. I put them at seven
mostly because they have a veteran quarterback in bo Nicks
as a kid. They're all beat up offensively, but they
are still one t plus yards down the field. Baker's
the best quarterback in the league. They have been out
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gained in four straight games, so there's a little fools
gold when they get into these winning streaks. They're not pretty.
They're all banged up, but I think we all acknowledge
at number seven fields about right. Number six the Rams.
They went and got a corner from Tennessee. I may
have them a little low, highest overall great and highest
graded offense in the NFL according to PFF. Now. They
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have one of the last pocket quarterbacks, so if you
can get to Matt Stafford, that's the key. And their
O line is good. I don't think it's great. They
lead the NFL in big pass plays. Even when Puca
was gone. They brought in a fourth tight end, smart coach,
great quarterback. They don't move the pocket a ton, so
sometimes Stafford, if protection pro pass protection regresses that he
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can feel a little bit like a sitting duck. But
they're allowing an NFL low ten touchdowns through the season,
so it's just hard to get into the end zone
against the Rams. I have them at six, number five
the Lions. Again, a pocket quarterback goff can be a
sitting duck at times. I think the Rams and the
Lions have very very good rosters. I think the Lions
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have better offensive personnel. The Rams have better defensive personnel.
For their five wins have come by double digits. They
are really special at home. They're okay on the road,
and by the way, their schedule is pretty weak going
forward for the next month, so they'll keep.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
Posting W's number four.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
Green Bay Jordan Love, folks, I don't want to hear
that he's ascending. He's a star arm mobility talent, and
their defense allowed the fewest big plays this season. They're
just really well coached and really well run everywhere. They're
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still really young, they're still figuring some things out. They
still have really clunky halves of offensive football. But we
got to get over the Jordan Love is rising and
Jordan Love is ascending. No not, he's top five to six, dude,
Jordan Love's great period and the.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Sentence number three.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
I don't know what the heck to do with The
Colts only lost to the Rams and they outplayed them
at so far, and they've gotten better since then, maybe
by a touchdown. I mean, I think teams now are
quitting against them. They are so physically dominant. It's the
best offensive line along with Detroit I've seen. They're mashing people.
They're just dominating people. Pittman and Pears and Warren and
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Jonathan Taylor. You have to sign Daniel Jones to an
extension I don't know if they're the third best team,
but all the numbers tell you they're squashing people. It's
like physically they're just stepping on people. I'll put them
at three for now.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Number two.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
Philadelphia has got more big game experience. AJ Brown didn't
play shocker, best performance of the year. I think Philadelphia
gets to not over Indy because they've got more guys
that have played in big games, and as we get
closer to Thanksgiving, that stuff matters. So they're six and zero.
When Saquon Barkley gets fifteen plus touches, I have a recommendation.
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Give Saquon Barkley fifteen plus touches. Phillia two.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Number one.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
I don't even think Kansas City played that great last night.
I thought it was a B minus C plus performance
and they still won by three touchdowns. I said this
a few weeks ago. They haven't had this kind of
offensive talent. Rashi Rice Clear number one, Worthy, clever, number two,
Juju perfect three, Travis Kelcey Gray excellent, tight end production,
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O line still missing people, but again one of the
reasons I have Casey one in Philly two big game experience.
That stuff matters. On fourth down that stuff matters in
the red zone. I have Seattle at eleven, the Chargers
at twelve. Again, I don't know what in the world
to do with the Colt. I don't see him in
the Super Bowl. Let's bringing Nick right, what does he makeup?
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Then that's our hurt hierarchy. You know. It's like, the
data tells me they're as good as Kansas City. I know,
about as good as Kansas City.
Speaker 5 (09:26):
Yeah, that's why we're not run by AI robots. Column
That's why while maybe artificial intelligence is going to take
over every field, but not this one, because the data
can tell you whatever it wants to tell you. But
your eyes of watching the NFL for forty years is
just going to be like, am I really going to
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say that Daniel Jones is gonna stare down Josh Allen
or Patrick Mahomes in an AFC for IT title game,
Divisional round game and win.
Speaker 6 (10:00):
And the answer to.
Speaker 5 (10:00):
That question is no, I'm not and I'm not doing this.
I'm not picking at you here at all. It feels
a lot like a lot like to me, the Vikings
last year prolific offense a better defense than this Colt seam.
They won fourteen games. But when Bush came to shove,
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you asked yourself, or I asked myself, am I gonna
trust Sam Darnald through three rounds of the playoffs?
Speaker 6 (10:29):
And that's in the NFC.
Speaker 5 (10:31):
Where there aren't superhero quarterbacks waiting for you at every turn,
and I didn't trust them. And I think Donald is
better than Daniel Jones. Listen, Jonathan Taylor. If any running
back has an MVP case, Jonathan Taylor has one. I
actually think right now his MVP case is potentially stronger
than Saquan's. Last season, He's been excellent. Shane Steichen has
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shown an ability. Hell, he has a winning record in games.
Anthony Richardson star he's an excellent coach. They have underrated weapons.
All that is true. They deserve to be respected.
Speaker 6 (11:08):
But I right.
Speaker 5 (11:09):
Now in the AFC, I think the Chiefs are better
than them. I believe the Bills are better than them,
and I think in a playoff game, I would pick
the Patriots before I picked them, because I believe superstar
young quarterback in year two. Year two is not too early.
So I give them respect, but I'm not going to
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pander the way I feel some people feel obligated you'd
be like, well, what more do the Colts need to do?
And the answer is nothing. There is nothing the Colts
can do this season to make me think they're winning
the super Bowl other than win the Super Bowl. Maybe
I'll be proven wrong, but that philosophy has never led
me astray my life watching the NFL.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
I want to start with baseball. We'll come back to
the NFL. Sure, so you play poker, And I made
this argument earlier that when you surround yourself with the
best poker players, you probably play a more astute, a
more focused, a higher quality of decision making when the
quality around you is good. This is what the Dodgers
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do that's amazing. They take guys like Will Klein, who
had a seven ERA with a Tacoma Rainiers this year,
who's been released three times. But when you put them
around the Dodgers, they're coaching the moment the offense four
scoreless innings, one hit against the Blue Jays. Is that
we all look at the Dodgers' money. Mets have money,
Yankees have money. People have money. It's not just that
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what Will Klein does is what they do. They find
these guys in every series and you're like, how is
he's like a double A. I mean Tommy Edmonds hit
two sixty for the Cardinals. The Dodgers, he's NLCSMVP. My
takeaway is, yes, Otani's unbelievable, and maybe not it's not
as exciting, but it's beyond money to me when I
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watch the Dodgers or do you just see the stars?
Speaker 6 (13:04):
No, I think it's I think it's both. Listen.
Speaker 5 (13:07):
It does help that you were able to give Otani
three quarters of a bill and he reaches base ten times.
I mean, that's pretty good. I mean, I guess it
was nine times. Pardon me, I mean, And it does
help that when you wave the white flag and just
say we just have to walk Otani, it is future
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first ballot, all time great Mookie Betts coming to the plate,
and a couple guys later, it's previous World Series MVP
Freddie Freeman coming to the plate.
Speaker 6 (13:38):
That all does help.
Speaker 5 (13:40):
But what you're describing is a lot like what the
Chiefs benefit from. Colin Taekwan Thornton's of bust is he
in KM City he works, Juju gets cut by three teams.
Speaker 6 (13:53):
KM City works.
Speaker 5 (13:54):
Mccol hardman gets cut by the Jets in Kim City
he works, And so I do think that once you
have an established culture and established talent, what you are
creating an incubator, if you will, for lesser talented guys
to succeed because they are only asked to do one
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thing or the one thing they do best, rather than
do more. Now, Klein last night, that might have been
a little you know, kismet luck aberration as well, but
the overarching point I think is exactly correct.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
So I was saying this to the staff this morning
because I think Jordan Love is elite. He didn't have
the appeal to Middle America like jeans wearing, truck driving
Brett Fahr. He didn't have the coastal allure that the
hipster Aaron Rodgers had. I think he's a combination of both,
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and I think he's unbelievable. But he went to Utah State.
We didn't watch him on Saturdays. He sat for three
years like Aaron. But he's not political. He always says
the right th thing. He's not Middle America, he's not
coast I watch him and I'm like, oh, this is
what Aaron looked like in his prime, Like just when
the ball comes out his feet Art on the ground.
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He's got an absolute whip of an arm. I think,
I said this morning, I think he's the most underrated
player in the league. He's the only great. I mean seriously,
even like Justin Herbert, everybody acknowledges. I know he doesn't
want a playoff game, but he's great, and Justin doesn't
get the love. You can't find anybody that says Jordan
Love is great. I don't know what my eyes are
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telling me. That looks great.
Speaker 5 (15:37):
All right, So can we come back to the Herbert
thing in a moment, Yeah, because I have a Herbert question,
But I won't stay on Jordan Love. First of all,
I'll tell you one person who says Jordan Love is great.
My first thing's first Coast Chris Bussard, who picked him
to win league MVP.
Speaker 6 (15:53):
Before this year.
Speaker 5 (15:54):
So he saw something that I did not going into
the season and Love. When you look at his stats
for the season, it's shocking how good they are and
how little press to your point he seems to be getting.
I am I am a sixty percent of the way
believer on Jordan Love, and by that I mean like
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I certainly see the upside. He has not gotten to
the place yet where I fully trust him. But I
did think that Sunday Night was the best regular season
game of his career. And I said, so, this is
what I said going into the season, and I see
if you agree with me. I said, I think Jordan
Love is the most interesting person in the NFL this
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year because if he is just a B plus or
better quarterback this season, the Packers can win the Super Bowl.
And if he is an a quarterback, the Packers should
win the super Bowl because the roster is great, the
defense is excellent. With this particularly with the addition of
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Micah the head coach is very very good. The de
coordinator has been very very good. Jordan Love is for
many ways the fulkrum of if not the NFC.
Speaker 6 (17:10):
The entire the entire league.
Speaker 5 (17:12):
Because as long as he does not have one of
those oh no, what just happened Jordan Love playoff games
that we've seen a couple of times all seen a
great one, then I think the Packers should be the
favorites in the NFC. I know they have the best record,
but I'm saying I think when when they get good
quarterback play, they don't even need great When they get
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good quarterback play. They should be the best team in
that conference.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
But for the record, I saw a headline this morning
Caleb Williams is fine. Relax, and my take is thirt
easiest schedule, hired the hottest coach offensively on the market,
excellent weapons, spend one hundred million on the old line.
Fine's not good enough. Fine is good enough if you
take your family to dinner and it costs forty eight
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bucks and you're like us, were fine. If you're spending
four hundred on the anniversary dinner, fine's not good enough.
Like I looked at the Bears and I'm like, I
don't want to hear fine. I looked at the numbers
last year and this year through seven games, it's the
same guy. Is it possible this is what he is?
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He's just fine. As a number one pick, he's fine, So.
Speaker 5 (18:23):
That would be if it is, then that's a disaster.
Caleb Williams being just fine is a disaster. And I
would have eliminated that as going into last year, I
would have said that the only chance Caleb Williams is
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not at the very least very good is catastrophic injury.
Just you know, the guy gets unlucky from.
Speaker 6 (18:51):
A career changing injury.
Speaker 5 (18:53):
I know after twenty games, I guess the closer. Now
at this point to twenty five, I no longer can
and say that. I think that while you still see
the obvious, Oh my god, look at that play he
just made in a positive way moment, he is a
year and a half in still shaky at what should
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be the easiest stuff.
Speaker 6 (19:17):
And that is concerning.
Speaker 5 (19:19):
Is it so concerning that I would abandon the Caleb
Williams stock.
Speaker 6 (19:23):
No?
Speaker 5 (19:24):
Do I believe Ben Johnson took this job over others
because of Caleb Williams.
Speaker 6 (19:30):
Yes.
Speaker 5 (19:30):
Do I still think long term it's going to work. Yeah,
I think it, But I am not dead set certain
the way I once was.
Speaker 6 (19:40):
And I gotta tell you.
Speaker 5 (19:41):
Colin, if we go from Trevor Lawrence not turning into
a star to Caleb Williams not turning into.
Speaker 6 (19:48):
A star, I might get out of the.
Speaker 5 (19:50):
College quarterback handicapping business because I have never seen two
guys the moment they first played college football that I
it was more certain that guy is going to be
a superstar than those two players. And Trevor has been disappointing.
He's honestly been kind of the weak link. Thus far
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this season and breaks my heart. And to say that
about about the Jags and Caleb's been as you put it,
fine blah, and if it's unfair, but if you remove
the Cowboys game, his season numbers are downright bad. That's
all concerning. Not as concerning, however, is this gone? If
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I came on this show and I was like, hey,
by the way, I just want to let you know.
Speaker 6 (20:39):
I think you mentioned poker.
Speaker 5 (20:41):
I think playing games of chance, playing cards is a
sin and it makes you a bad person. You'd be like, Nick,
that is a departure from who you are at your core.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
Yes to you.
Speaker 5 (20:53):
You just flippantly giving your guy Herbert a pass for
the backwards I mean, Colin, I mean who I mean it.
Does a man have no principles? Does he have no
standards anymore?
Speaker 1 (21:08):
First of all, shame on me for being a true romantic.
I mean, I don't want to get it. I don't
want to get in the way of young love. I
saw okay, and it was you know, it was an
off day. It's an off day.
Speaker 5 (21:23):
He's still representing the franchise. And let me ask you
this as well, speaking of justn't Herbert your guy doesn't
hurber being a romantic. His social calendar sure is filled
up quite a bit as of late. So I'm at
the World Series and at the Laker game now. I
don't know where is cow his cap was positioned at
the World Series, but I do know you better listen.
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Charger's fighting for a playoff spot now, and listen.
Speaker 6 (21:46):
I'm happy for him as well.
Speaker 5 (21:47):
I just don't know is he going to be able
to multitask as well as the greatest sight end of
all time, Travis Kelce.
Speaker 6 (21:53):
I'm not saying he can't. I'm just saying that, plus the.
Speaker 5 (21:57):
Backwards cap a lot of pressure on him now, rusher
on him.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
I did say it was a little sabbatical from my
previous stance, a slight nudge off, But I mean, he's
an American hero. The ball's going to hit Amanda, she's
a model influencer, and he bats it away. It's like
there is not all heroes wear capes somewhere their hat
on backwards.
Speaker 5 (22:20):
So okay, just so you know, I'm not sure the
ball was going to hit If it's his girlfriend you're
talking about, her name is Madison. I don't want to
get him in trouble Amanda. Now, all of a sudden,
you're going to cause controversy. Madison, my goodness, gracious.
Speaker 6 (22:33):
Good luck with that con.
Speaker 5 (22:34):
I'll let you deal with her fans on the internet.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
I corrected it.
Speaker 6 (22:38):
You got it wrong. That's a Colin Coward problem.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
Okay, one more thing. It's not too early for three Gate.
Three games into the season, I said to j Mack.
I said, Okay, Austin Reeves is not a great defender.
DeAndre Ayton's awful. Lebron at this point's not elite, and
Luca barely tribes. So you have duplication at a real weakness.
You can't defend in the West. Lebron is better on ball,
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Luca needs the ball. Austin Reeves game is with the ball.
These games for Austin Reeves are wonderful. There are teams
like Boston, Houston, Miami that need an initiator of offense.
That Austin Reeves now is just duplication. Mediocre defender has
to have the ball, and you can see when he
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has the ball when Lebron and Lugarn playing, he's tremendous.
He is a prime prime player to move go get
like a nazarid Ish wing tough, physical defender because the
Lakers now are bad defensively and have too many guys
that need the ball? Am I nuts?
Speaker 5 (23:43):
No, You're not nuts? And this is the real question
is are the Lakers trying to win this season or not?
If they are trying to win this and I'm not,
there's a no judgment zone on my end because till
we see how long Lebron actually is out for and
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what Lebron looks like in year twenty three, soon to
be age forty one, I think it'd be totally fair
for the Lakers to be conservative about.
Speaker 6 (24:14):
Their chances this season.
Speaker 5 (24:15):
But if you want to win this season, Austin Reeves
is duplicative because of Luca and Lebron and is your
number one asset to be able to go get a defender,
which the moment Lebron comes back, the Lakers are gonna
need the oldest player in the league to be one
of their two best wing defenders because other than Vanderbilt,
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they got none on the roster. God love Marcus Smart,
but he's a twelve minute a guy at this point
in his career. However, if your feeling is and I
think this was Lebron's concern over the summer. If your
feeling is, ah, we got Luca resigned, this is a
transition year, well then you probably keep Austin because you
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don't want Luca to be in a position a year
from now where he's your only initiator, your only ball handler.
Speaker 6 (25:09):
So that's the question.
Speaker 5 (25:10):
The question is how much do you value this season
versus flexibility moving forward?
Speaker 6 (25:17):
I don't know the answer that.
Speaker 5 (25:19):
I would think as long as I have Luka Doncic
and a guy who finished sixth in MVP voting last
year and Lebron, I'd try to go for it. And
in that context, Austin and credit to Austin for becoming
this level of player is redundant for a team that
needs a bunch of other things.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
Yes, a rim protector, athleticism, off ball diameter defender.
Speaker 5 (25:42):
I mean where the Lakers are built weird for twenty
twenty five. They're a team that can't really defend and
doesn't have great shooting. As great as Luca is, as
good as Lebron could be, that's not a recipe for
a deep playoff run.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
All right, Nick Wright, excellent work. First things first, it's great.
See anybody say your hell yeah, listen sometimes. You know,
I'm not gonna apologize for being a romantic. I see
Justin Herbert with his friend and it touched me, and
so you know whatever.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
Can you watch your language when you say it touched me?
By the way, have you looked her up on Instagrams?
Speaker 4 (26:22):
Madison Beer.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
She's a beautiful person.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
She doesn't follow me, but she has forty million followers.
She has a huge deal. I'd never heard of her before,
like six months ago.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
Well, you know a lot of these influencers are you know,
it's not back channels. It's just channels that we don't
we're not on right.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
Justin Fields used to hang out with Cameron Dicker in
the South Bay. Now he's leveled up to a celebrity
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Speaker 1 (27:48):
Sorry, I just took a little cs to after that
Dodger game last night. We're all we're all a little sleepy.
I got one producer got two and a half hours sleep,
one got four, and fields great about it. It was
just wild. It's just crazy. I say this all the time.
We are so lucky. Obviously, I'm lucky to do what
I do and very very grateful, very very humbled. But
(28:12):
we're so lucky right now. You look at all these
Dodger players, they're all like Otani and Betts and Freeman
and Yoshi and just the quality of the human being
you get in American sports. And I've said this about
the NFL, Josh Allen, Patrick Mahomes, justin Herbert Jordan love.
(28:33):
They're such nice kids. And I know I'm saying kids,
but I have gray hair. But I'm watching that thing
last night, and I mean, the pressure on these athletes
that is just crazy. I mean, we all grow grew
up wanting to be like rock stars or athletes, at
least I did. Some guys wanted to be Fireman. I
get that too, but it was like, you know, it
(28:55):
was superheroes, rock stars or athletes, and you're you're watching
what o'tani is doing and Freeman, and I am just
amazed at how good sports is in twenty twenty five.
I'm amazed with it. I can't even wrap my brain
around how good O'tawni is. I mean, Michael Jordan is
six for six. Otawni got on base nine times. That
(29:20):
would be a good series for an all star in
a six game series, an all star level player, said
Vlad Guerrero. He got on base like nine times in
a five six game series. You'd be like, what was
the MVP of the series. Yeah, that's unbelievable. I mean, yeah,
Summer Walks I said seven years ago, he's Babe Ruth plus.
(29:46):
My bad, He's Babe Ruth plus plus plus. J McK
with the news.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
No, no, hear on the news. This is the headline news.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
All right, kind of, Let's start with the Chiefs win
on Monday night football.
Speaker 4 (29:59):
It was a snoozer.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
They beat a Washington team playing their backup quarterback, Kansas
City feasting on another bottom feeder. Congratulations, guys. Travis Kelsey
did have a good game, six catches for ninety nine yards,
did have a drop early that led to an interception
right off his hands. Mahomes kind of muttered an F
bomb under his breath, you could see through the face mask.
Kelsey tied Priest Homes with his eighty third regular season touchdown,
(30:23):
good for most Enfranchise history. Here's Patrick Mahomes on Taylor
Swiss fiance.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
He's just like the true Chief's chief.
Speaker 9 (30:32):
I mean, he is the guy who's been here through
the whole thing, been here with Coach Read the entire time,
and he helped set the culture, you know, he helps
set the culture of what it means and to play
for Coach Reading, to play in Kansas City. And I
was able to come in and have that guy to
rely on. And so he's bringing all the records now,
and I mean he's all about the team. So I
want to make sure he gets that. Hopefully we can
get another football for him later in the season when
(30:54):
he actually breaks the record.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
Say what you want, but Rashi, Rice Worthy, Kelsey, Juju,
Hollywood Brown, that is a stable of guys that can
make plays.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
Yeah, just do it against a good team and then
I'll be impressed. I mean, we didn't get excited when
the Bills smashed the Panthers and Andy Dalton, did we
We didn't go all apoplectic when Daniel Jones carved up
the Titans, Like, we don't do that. So I don't
know how well we should get all excited for the
Chiefs curb stomping a terrible Washington team with a backup quarterback,
(31:25):
Like Washington's not a playoff team.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
No, they're not, They're not.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
Yeah, so this Bills game is everything. Hey, beat the Bills.
I'll give you your props. Do you have an early
read on Chiefs Bills?
Speaker 2 (31:35):
By the way?
Speaker 1 (31:36):
Kansas City by ten?
Speaker 3 (31:38):
Ooh, that's a hot take, wow, ten.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
On the Yeah, this game is in Buffalo, and yeah
I saw New England go in and win at Buffalo.
Kansas City can't What.
Speaker 3 (31:51):
Is this the transit of property? Because a plus B,
what's going on here? Cowherd sim it down. Now we
may have to go opposite on that one this week. No,
I don't have a pick for that game yet. Next up,
Oh yeah, it's the Cowboys. And this is kind of
an ugly story developing with Trayvon Diggs. Remember last year
he had that knee injury. Well, now he weirdly suffered
(32:13):
some kind of concussion at home. It's unclear what went down,
but now he's being placed on the ir Remember Trayvon
Digs a few years ago was like an awesome I
was like, Oh, this guy's a stud. It hasn't gone great,
but Michaeh. Parsons has now chimed in. Of course, Michael
Parson's a bit of a vendetta against Dallas for how
it ended. Michael Parson's saying Diggs is coming off a
(32:35):
catastrophic knee injury and they just didn't do him right,
the type of injury he had. They forced him out there,
he had no rep the organization let him down.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
Well, I don't know the specifics in terms of, you know,
forcing him to practice and play, but I think there's
a possibility he won't be around with those two first
round picks. I think they're going to get an in
a corner.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
So well, that's assuming your boy Jerry doesn't trade those
picks to try to get a player and make a move.
I know you scoffed at that earlier, but would you
put anything past this guy. I mean, he made a
terrible deal for Trey Lance.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
He made a great deal for George Pickens. That was
a steal. That's one of the steals of the off seats,
and that.
Speaker 4 (33:19):
Was a great move getting Pickings.
Speaker 3 (33:20):
By the way, the Steelers should be ripped for giving
him up for nothing.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
Well, he man. I think he's a better fit with
Dak than kind of a the quarterback situation they had.
I think Dak has a way of making players who
can be a bit temperamental more mature. Give Dak credit,
Like when you play with Dak, everybody kind of gets
in line with Dak. Number Zeke was a little wild
(33:45):
and then over the course of his career he's settled down.
Dak has a way of you know, he's like Dak's
like the dad you don't want to disappoint. He's like
mature and his speeches and his ability to kind of
lower the temperature in the room. Dallas has a lot
to deal with, ownership down a lot of noise. Dak
has got that unique ability where he just brings the
(34:05):
temperature down. Jalen Hurts has this too. There's just a
maturity and ability. Take a deep breath, everybody, Let's bring
the noise down. And I think that's a credit to
Dak and Jalen Hurst.
Speaker 6 (34:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (34:15):
I can't wait for Michaeh Parsons to do a victory
lap after the Super Bowl and just shove it in
Jerry's face.
Speaker 4 (34:22):
Hey, you made a terrible deal. I know you just agree.
Speaker 3 (34:24):
Anyways, final story, Colin, let's go to the Rams.
Speaker 4 (34:26):
Touched on earlier.
Speaker 3 (34:27):
Tyler Shuck will be starting for the Saints. That's not
great news. The Rams have big news. Puka Nakua is back,
Colin mcveig announced yesterday. Pookah is expected to return to
practice and they expect him to play on Sunday against
the Saints. Remember Puka missed that game he suffered the
ankle injury I'm pretty sure was the ankle in London,
(34:47):
and so the Rams should be fully formed.
Speaker 4 (34:49):
Rested off a bye.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
I'm sure you guys can't wait for the McVeigh numbers
off a bye.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
McVeigh off a bye at home against the New Orleans team.
Tyler shuck to me, is not an NFL quarterback?
Speaker 3 (35:02):
Oh really, Saints disagree they.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
Drafted early. I mean if this game ended thirty three
to three, would you be shocked? No, no, my bank
account would be thrilled. If you have survivor, you got
to hammer the rams here right, this is a lot.
I mean, nothing's a lock. I mean, well, who do
they play? I mean off a lot of So that's
the only thing I don't love is that you could
see them taking a twenty four nothing lead at half
(35:28):
and shutting it, shutting the playbook down and just running
it out, winning, you know, twenty seven to seventeen. Running it.
That's what worries mean. It's fair, I mean because not
that the Niners don't know what they do, but I
could see McVay shutting it down at half and saying, listen,
you get one or two of easy year when you
don't have to play your defensive guy's sixty snaps and
(35:48):
you know, Jared Verse like twenty eight snaps, you're done.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
Well.
Speaker 3 (35:52):
I don't know about twenty eight. But the final note is.
I watched that Buck Saints game closely. I told remember
last week I mentioned the Saints center McCoy, he's one of.
Speaker 4 (36:00):
The best in the league.
Speaker 3 (36:01):
He's out for the season, and I was like, oh,
vitaven Company. They're gonna wreck New Orleans. Couldn't run the football,
they were inept. Spencer Rattler was so now shook with
the backup center. And we know the Rams defensive line
is fairly nasty. I just don't see a path to
success for the Saints here. I love the Rams in
the spot.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
J Mack with the news, Well.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
That's the news, and thanks for stopping by The Herd.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
Line news Derek Jeter stops by The Herd last hour
after another iconic Dodger game at the Great Dodger Stadium. Plus,
is the NFC playoff picture already? Sat thoughts next the Herd.
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Start Saturday strong with the undefeated, top ranked Ohio State
Buckeyes as they faced off against rivals Penn State at
the Shoe. Starts at ten am Eastern with Big.
Speaker 4 (37:03):
Noon Kickoff live from Columbus.
Speaker 3 (37:05):
Then it's Penn State, Ohio State Big Noon Saturday only
on fox.
Speaker 1 (37:12):
Man. There's a lot of good jobs open Florida, LSU,
Penn State. Those are three top ten jobs. I'm not
sure there's three great candidates. Lane Kiffin potentially, but he
may want to stay. You know, everybody thinks Americans are
more mobile. I saw reading something about six months ago
that most Americans don't want to move. They find a job,
they find a community, they want to be social, their
(37:33):
kids get into school. So I'm not sure if I mean,
if you can make blankety blank million dollars a year
at Old Miss and you kind of created, you know,
a great program, what's the extra two and a half
million going to mean at LSU? I don't know. It's
still the SEC and I don't know, Like Kurt Signetti,
(37:54):
why go to Penn State right now? Indiana would hammer
Penn State. It'd be one thing if, like Indiana new
going forward, our biggest boosters are not going to give
money anymore, or it was a regressing business. But if
you're in a business and the business is a snding like
Indiana football, why leave Ole Miss football? Why leave now?
(38:14):
If it's lifestyle and nothing against Oxford, Mississippi, but you
know a school in LA called in your you know
you love La. That's different. Or if you're like Brian
Kelly went Midwest to the South. If Brian Kelly got
offered the Penn State job, that may be a good
fit for him socially and football wise. But I want
to say this that, and we've said this a lot,
(38:35):
it doesn't take long for great to surface or even
very good. If you look at the playoff picture today,
we'll start with the NFC. I think this is what
it's going to look like. I think we've already determined.
Speaker 6 (38:52):
Now.
Speaker 1 (38:53):
I'm not saying the seeding is perfect. Green Bay one seed,
Phillia two, Tampa Bay three, Seattle for Detroit to five,
LAS six, San Francisco is seven. I think these are
the playoff teams. I think those are the teams I
picked for the playoffs. I'm not sure if I had
San Francisco, and I think I had them close that
feels like. I mean, the team that's right below that
(39:15):
is four and three Chicago, and I think Chicago will
make it interesting. But I think as long as San
Francisco can get somewhat healthy over the next six weeks.
I think the NFC playoff picture, that's what it's going
to look like. In the AFC, I don't buy Pittsburgh.
I think they will lose narrowly to Baltimore. I think
Baltimore is going to go on a heater with Lamar
(39:37):
Jackson and win five out of the next six, six
to the next seven. But I Indies one, New England two,
Denver three, Pittsburgh for Buffalo five, Chargers six, Kansas City seven.
This is mostly the teams we picked. I think Baltimore
and Houston i'd keep my eyes on. I just don't
(39:59):
buy Pittsburgh. I'm not blaming Aaron. I think they I
think Sunday night, when Green Bay faced the Steelers, it
felt like one franchise gets the current league in the
future and the other is really outdated. And the reason
I buy the Colts is because if you have a
great offensive line that will endure in December and January,
(40:24):
if you have great wide receivers Miami a few years
ago doesn't mean anything as the weather gets colder. I
look at line play now. I do think the Colts
could use another pass rusher, but I think they're old lines,
first or second in the league, and I think that endures.
Nick Wright does not believe in the Colts.
Speaker 5 (40:43):
Am I really going to say that Daniel Jones is
going to stare down Josh Allen or Patrick Mahomes in
an AFC for IT title game, Divisional round game and win.
And the answer to that question is no, I'm not.
They deserve to be respected, But I right now in
(41:06):
the AFC, I think the Chiefs are better than them.
I believe the Bills are better than them, and I
think in a playoff game, I would.
Speaker 6 (41:14):
Pick the Patriots. Before I picked them.
Speaker 1 (41:18):
I would not. I would pick the Chiefs to beat
the Colts and right now nobody else. I think Jonathan
Taylor would run for one hundred and fifty yards on
the Buffalo Bills. I think Bo Nicks would sit on
the sidelines and watch Jonathan Taylor in that offense dominate
(41:38):
time of possession. So I think Kansas City has built
to beat them. If if you have a great old line, hard,
it's the way to keep great quarterbacks on the sidelines.
Colts can do that. Our three, Derek Jeter on the
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Speaker 1 (00:26):
Here we go, it's our two. How lucky are we
probably just happen to have another World Series games tonight
at the home of the greatest baseball team that's ever played.
You think our nuts on that just watching the Dodgers
will climb four scoreless innings. Who's wilf Klin. I don't we
(00:52):
know who he is?
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Now?
Speaker 1 (00:56):
It's just remarkable. Everybody's a little bleary eyed on our staff.
You think that game was hard to stay up for
in Los Angeles, Try the Midwest.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
Hey, Colin Rowe, I'm just curious, where are you on
the whole intentional walk stuff.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
I get it, it's strategy.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
Blah blah blah, But I'm not gonna lie. You know,
we watched her. We kept the kids up for the
whole game last night. They were into it. Oh Tani's
going off having a historical game and then you walk
him every single time. That was just annoying.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
You know, I want to see the best player bat.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
I know, I get it, Baseball purists understand, but I'm
curious where you chime in on the intentional walks.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
I Barry Bonds had a stretch when he was on
you know, cream or whatever, like you couldn't get him out,
and I think I don't love it either. I don't
think it's a dynamic. But you know what, the Dodgers
have so many bats around him. I would be more
annoyed with it if he was with the Angels and
you were doing it and nobody could drive him in.
But I don't think it affects the outcome.
Speaker 4 (01:49):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
After last night, do you think Otani's gonna get any
balls to hit today.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Or they just gonna walk.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
Him every time? That's not great for the product.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
I don't yeah. I mean, like if you extrapolated out
to an entire season and nobody would pitch to O Tawny,
that would not be great. So you know, baseball has
done a good job of tweaking things. I mean, maybe
there's a new rule you can't intentionally walk anybody more
than one time.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
More than once.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
I think that's a great idea. Can you propose that
next time we have Manfred and company on No.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
I think it's I think, listen, baseball, more than any
sport in the last two years, has tweaked and all
of it's worked, and I don't think. I mean, listen,
you have exceptional players and you have to. I mean
there was a time in basketball that they were thinking
of outlawing the dunk because it was too easy for Wilt.
I mean, you you talk, you think, are there too
many three pointers in the NBA? You talk about these things,
(02:39):
you table it, you see if people like it. The
tush push. We're going back and forth on the tush push.
So I do think Otawni may be the player that
creates the you can't you could. And by the way,
there is strategy involved because you want the four, so
sometimes you don't want an open base. You want to
load it up. Ground Ball gets two. So yeah, it's
(03:00):
worth discussing at the winter meetings.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
I love it all.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Right, Here we go the hierarchy on a Tuesday.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Heard hierarchy time. Now go the top ten NFL teams
according to College Number ten.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Well, the Buffalo Bills are five to zero. When James
Cook rushes for one hundred yards a rush for one
hundred yards, Josh Allen only had to throw the ball
nineteen times. I don't think they're very good against the run.
Their pass defense is fine, but they're a very good team.
It's a long season. I like their on line, their
(03:38):
run game, Josh Allen. They could probably use another receiving
piece against the better defenses like Kansas City, but they're
back in the top ten, number ten.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Number nine.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
New England beat them all. Put in New England nine.
You know, New England is the only team since the
fifties first eight games they haven't allowed a running back
fifty plus. So Vrabel made him tougher better against the run.
And let's just be totally frank here. Drake may looks
like a top six to seven quarterback in the league.
He may not be, but he's completing seventy five percent
(04:12):
of his throws and his passer ratings one nineteen, so
the numbers say he is. Again, I think they need
another weapon. I like the running back room. They're good
enough Hunter Henry at tight end, But this is about
coaching and an exploding young star at quarterback. Don't think
they're a super Bowl team, but I have him at nine.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Number eight.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Broncos are a little inconsistent for me. I do think
Sean Payton is coaching bone Knicks. He wants him to
throw the ball down the field more and sometimes it
gets ugly. But here's the numbers you have to think of.
This team is allowed the fewest sacks in the NFL
and is also has ten more sacks than anybody in
the NFL that travels. Denver's not going anywhere. It's why
(04:55):
I think they're one of the few teams that matches
up with Kansas City. You can't get the bone Knicks
and they get to your quarterback. Denver at eight. Number seven.
Bucks are all beat up. I put them at seven
mostly because they have a veteran quarterback in bo Nicks
as a kid. They're all beat up offensively, but they
are still one t plus yards down the field. Baker's
the best quarterback in the league. They have been out
(05:16):
gained in four straight games, so there's a little fools
gold when they get into these winning streaks. They're not pretty.
They're all banged up, but I think we all acknowledge
at number seven fields about right. Number six the Rams.
They went and got a corner from Tennessee. I may
have them a little low, highest overall great and highest
graded offense in the NFL according to PFF. Now. They
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have one of the last pocket quarterbacks, so if you
can get to Matt Stafford, that's the key. And their
O line is good. I don't think it's great. They
lead the NFL in big pass plays. Even when Puca
was gone. They brought in a fourth tight end, smart coach,
great quarterback. They don't move the pocket a ton, so
sometimes Stafford, if protection pro pass protection regresses that he
(06:03):
can feel a little bit like a sitting duck. But
they're allowing an NFL low ten touchdowns through the season,
so it's just hard to get into the end zone
against the Rams. I have them at six, number five
the Lions. Again, a pocket quarterback goff can be a
sitting duck at times. I think the Rams and the
Lions have very very good rosters. I think the Lions
(06:25):
have better offensive personnel. The Rams have better defensive personnel.
For their five wins have come by double digits. They
are really special at home. They're okay on the road,
and by the way, their schedule is pretty weak going
forward for the next month, so they'll keep.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
Posting W's number four.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
Green Bay Jordan Love, folks, I don't want to hear
that he's ascending. He's a star arm mobility talent, and
their defense allowed the fewest big plays this season. They're
just really well coached and really well run everywhere. They're
(07:06):
still really young, they're still figuring some things out. They
still have really clunky halves of offensive football. But we
got to get over the Jordan Love is rising and
Jordan Love is ascending. No not, he's top five to six, dude,
Jordan Love's great period and the.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Sentence number three.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
I don't know what the heck to do with The
Colts only lost to the Rams and they outplayed them
at so far, and they've gotten better since then, maybe
by a touchdown. I mean, I think teams now are
quitting against them. They are so physically dominant. It's the
best offensive line along with Detroit I've seen. They're mashing people.
They're just dominating people. Pittman and Pears and Warren and
(07:46):
Jonathan Taylor. You have to sign Daniel Jones to an
extension I don't know if they're the third best team,
but all the numbers tell you they're squashing people. It's
like physically they're just stepping on people. I'll put them
at three for now.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Number two.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
Philadelphia has got more big game experience. AJ Brown didn't
play shocker, best performance of the year. I think Philadelphia
gets to not over Indy because they've got more guys
that have played in big games, and as we get
closer to Thanksgiving, that stuff matters. So they're six and zero.
When Saquon Barkley gets fifteen plus touches, I have a recommendation.
(08:27):
Give Saquon Barkley fifteen plus touches. Phillia two.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Number one.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
I don't even think Kansas City played that great last night.
I thought it was a B minus C plus performance
and they still won by three touchdowns. I said this
a few weeks ago. They haven't had this kind of
offensive talent. Rashi Rice Clear number one, Worthy, clever, number two,
Juju perfect three, Travis Kelcey Gray excellent, tight end production,
(08:53):
O line still missing people, but again one of the
reasons I have Casey one in Philly two big game experience.
That stuff matters. On fourth down that stuff matters in
the red zone. I have Seattle at eleven, the Chargers
at twelve. Again, I don't know what in the world
to do with the Colt. I don't see him in
the Super Bowl. Let's bringing Nick right, what does he makeup?
(09:16):
Then that's our hurt hierarchy. You know. It's like, the
data tells me they're as good as Kansas City. I know,
about as good as Kansas City.
Speaker 5 (09:26):
Yeah, that's why we're not run by AI robots. Column
That's why while maybe artificial intelligence is going to take
over every field, but not this one, because the data
can tell you whatever it wants to tell you. But
your eyes of watching the NFL for forty years is
just going to be like, am I really going to
(09:48):
say that Daniel Jones is gonna stare down Josh Allen
or Patrick Mahomes in an AFC for IT title game,
Divisional round game and win.
Speaker 6 (10:00):
And the answer to.
Speaker 5 (10:00):
That question is no, I'm not and I'm not doing this.
I'm not picking at you here at all. It feels
a lot like a lot like to me, the Vikings
last year prolific offense a better defense than this Colt seam.
They won fourteen games. But when Bush came to shove,
(10:23):
you asked yourself, or I asked myself, am I gonna
trust Sam Darnald through three rounds of the playoffs?
Speaker 6 (10:29):
And that's in the NFC.
Speaker 5 (10:31):
Where there aren't superhero quarterbacks waiting for you at every turn,
and I didn't trust them. And I think Donald is
better than Daniel Jones. Listen, Jonathan Taylor. If any running
back has an MVP case, Jonathan Taylor has one. I
actually think right now his MVP case is potentially stronger
than Saquan's. Last season, He's been excellent. Shane Steichen has
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shown an ability. Hell, he has a winning record in games.
Anthony Richardson star he's an excellent coach. They have underrated weapons.
All that is true. They deserve to be respected.
Speaker 6 (11:08):
But I right.
Speaker 5 (11:09):
Now in the AFC, I think the Chiefs are better
than them. I believe the Bills are better than them,
and I think in a playoff game, I would pick
the Patriots before I picked them, because I believe superstar
young quarterback in year two. Year two is not too early.
So I give them respect, but I'm not going to
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pander the way I feel some people feel obligated you'd
be like, well, what more do the Colts need to do?
And the answer is nothing. There is nothing the Colts
can do this season to make me think they're winning
the super Bowl other than win the Super Bowl. Maybe
I'll be proven wrong, but that philosophy has never led
me astray my life watching the NFL.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
I want to start with baseball. We'll come back to
the NFL. Sure, so you play poker, And I made
this argument earlier that when you surround yourself with the
best poker players, you probably play a more astute, a
more focused, a higher quality of decision making when the
quality around you is good. This is what the Dodgers
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do that's amazing. They take guys like Will Klein, who
had a seven ERA with a Tacoma Rainiers this year,
who's been released three times. But when you put them
around the Dodgers, they're coaching the moment the offense four
scoreless innings, one hit against the Blue Jays. Is that
we all look at the Dodgers' money. Mets have money,
Yankees have money. People have money. It's not just that
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what Will Klein does is what they do. They find
these guys in every series and you're like, how is
he's like a double A. I mean Tommy Edmonds hit
two sixty for the Cardinals. The Dodgers, he's NLCSMVP. My
takeaway is, yes, Otani's unbelievable, and maybe not it's not
as exciting, but it's beyond money to me when I
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watch the Dodgers or do you just see the stars?
Speaker 6 (13:04):
No, I think it's I think it's both. Listen.
Speaker 5 (13:07):
It does help that you were able to give Otani
three quarters of a bill and he reaches base ten times.
I mean, that's pretty good. I mean, I guess it
was nine times. Pardon me, I mean, And it does
help that when you wave the white flag and just
say we just have to walk Otani, it is future
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first ballot, all time great Mookie Betts coming to the plate,
and a couple guys later, it's previous World Series MVP
Freddie Freeman coming to the plate.
Speaker 6 (13:38):
That all does help.
Speaker 5 (13:40):
But what you're describing is a lot like what the
Chiefs benefit from. Colin Taekwan Thornton's of bust is he
in KM City he works, Juju gets cut by three teams.
Speaker 6 (13:53):
KM City works.
Speaker 5 (13:54):
Mccol hardman gets cut by the Jets in Kim City
he works, And so I do think that once you
have an established culture and established talent, what you are
creating an incubator, if you will, for lesser talented guys
to succeed because they are only asked to do one
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thing or the one thing they do best, rather than
do more. Now, Klein last night, that might have been
a little you know, kismet luck aberration as well, but
the overarching point I think is exactly correct.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
So I was saying this to the staff this morning
because I think Jordan Love is elite. He didn't have
the appeal to Middle America like jeans wearing, truck driving
Brett Fahr. He didn't have the coastal allure that the
hipster Aaron Rodgers had. I think he's a combination of both,
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and I think he's unbelievable. But he went to Utah State.
We didn't watch him on Saturdays. He sat for three
years like Aaron. But he's not political. He always says
the right th thing. He's not Middle America, he's not
coast I watch him and I'm like, oh, this is
what Aaron looked like in his prime, Like just when
the ball comes out his feet Art on the ground.
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He's got an absolute whip of an arm. I think,
I said this morning, I think he's the most underrated
player in the league. He's the only great. I mean seriously,
even like Justin Herbert, everybody acknowledges. I know he doesn't
want a playoff game, but he's great, and Justin doesn't
get the love. You can't find anybody that says Jordan
Love is great. I don't know what my eyes are
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telling me. That looks great.
Speaker 5 (15:37):
All right, So can we come back to the Herbert
thing in a moment, Yeah, because I have a Herbert question,
But I won't stay on Jordan Love. First of all,
I'll tell you one person who says Jordan Love is great.
My first thing's first Coast Chris Bussard, who picked him
to win league MVP.
Speaker 6 (15:53):
Before this year.
Speaker 5 (15:54):
So he saw something that I did not going into
the season and Love. When you look at his stats
for the season, it's shocking how good they are and
how little press to your point he seems to be getting.
I am I am a sixty percent of the way
believer on Jordan Love, and by that I mean like
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I certainly see the upside. He has not gotten to
the place yet where I fully trust him. But I
did think that Sunday Night was the best regular season
game of his career. And I said, so, this is
what I said going into the season, and I see
if you agree with me. I said, I think Jordan
Love is the most interesting person in the NFL this
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year because if he is just a B plus or
better quarterback this season, the Packers can win the Super Bowl.
And if he is an a quarterback, the Packers should
win the super Bowl because the roster is great, the
defense is excellent. With this particularly with the addition of
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Micah the head coach is very very good. The de
coordinator has been very very good. Jordan Love is for
many ways the fulkrum of if not the NFC.
Speaker 6 (17:10):
The entire the entire league.
Speaker 5 (17:12):
Because as long as he does not have one of
those oh no, what just happened Jordan Love playoff games
that we've seen a couple of times all seen a
great one, then I think the Packers should be the
favorites in the NFC. I know they have the best record,
but I'm saying I think when when they get good
quarterback play, they don't even need great When they get
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good quarterback play. They should be the best team in
that conference.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
But for the record, I saw a headline this morning
Caleb Williams is fine. Relax, and my take is thirt
easiest schedule, hired the hottest coach offensively on the market,
excellent weapons, spend one hundred million on the old line.
Fine's not good enough. Fine is good enough if you
take your family to dinner and it costs forty eight
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bucks and you're like us, were fine. If you're spending
four hundred on the anniversary dinner, fine's not good enough.
Like I looked at the Bears and I'm like, I
don't want to hear fine. I looked at the numbers
last year and this year through seven games, it's the
same guy. Is it possible this is what he is?
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He's just fine. As a number one pick, he's fine, So.
Speaker 5 (18:23):
That would be if it is, then that's a disaster.
Caleb Williams being just fine is a disaster. And I
would have eliminated that as going into last year, I
would have said that the only chance Caleb Williams is
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not at the very least very good is catastrophic injury.
Just you know, the guy gets unlucky from.
Speaker 6 (18:51):
A career changing injury.
Speaker 5 (18:53):
I know after twenty games, I guess the closer. Now
at this point to twenty five, I no longer can
and say that. I think that while you still see
the obvious, Oh my god, look at that play he
just made in a positive way moment, he is a
year and a half in still shaky at what should
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be the easiest stuff.
Speaker 6 (19:17):
And that is concerning.
Speaker 5 (19:19):
Is it so concerning that I would abandon the Caleb
Williams stock.
Speaker 6 (19:23):
No?
Speaker 5 (19:24):
Do I believe Ben Johnson took this job over others
because of Caleb Williams.
Speaker 6 (19:30):
Yes.
Speaker 5 (19:30):
Do I still think long term it's going to work. Yeah,
I think it, But I am not dead set certain
the way I once was.
Speaker 6 (19:40):
And I gotta tell you.
Speaker 5 (19:41):
Colin, if we go from Trevor Lawrence not turning into
a star to Caleb Williams not turning into.
Speaker 6 (19:48):
A star, I might get out of the.
Speaker 5 (19:50):
College quarterback handicapping business because I have never seen two
guys the moment they first played college football that I
it was more certain that guy is going to be
a superstar than those two players. And Trevor has been disappointing.
He's honestly been kind of the weak link. Thus far
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this season and breaks my heart. And to say that
about about the Jags and Caleb's been as you put it,
fine blah, and if it's unfair, but if you remove
the Cowboys game, his season numbers are downright bad. That's
all concerning. Not as concerning, however, is this gone? If
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I came on this show and I was like, hey,
by the way, I just want to let you know.
Speaker 6 (20:39):
I think you mentioned poker.
Speaker 5 (20:41):
I think playing games of chance, playing cards is a
sin and it makes you a bad person. You'd be like, Nick,
that is a departure from who you are at your core.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
Yes to you.
Speaker 5 (20:53):
You just flippantly giving your guy Herbert a pass for
the backwards I mean, Colin, I mean who I mean it.
Does a man have no principles? Does he have no
standards anymore?
Speaker 1 (21:08):
First of all, shame on me for being a true romantic.
I mean, I don't want to get it. I don't
want to get in the way of young love. I
saw okay, and it was you know, it was an
off day. It's an off day.
Speaker 5 (21:23):
He's still representing the franchise. And let me ask you
this as well, speaking of justn't Herbert your guy doesn't
hurber being a romantic. His social calendar sure is filled
up quite a bit as of late. So I'm at
the World Series and at the Laker game now. I
don't know where is cow his cap was positioned at
the World Series, but I do know you better listen.
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Charger's fighting for a playoff spot now, and listen.
Speaker 6 (21:46):
I'm happy for him as well.
Speaker 5 (21:47):
I just don't know is he going to be able
to multitask as well as the greatest sight end of
all time, Travis Kelce.
Speaker 6 (21:53):
I'm not saying he can't. I'm just saying that, plus the.
Speaker 5 (21:57):
Backwards cap a lot of pressure on him now, rusher
on him.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
I did say it was a little sabbatical from my
previous stance, a slight nudge off, But I mean, he's
an American hero. The ball's going to hit Amanda, she's
a model influencer, and he bats it away. It's like
there is not all heroes wear capes somewhere their hat
on backwards.
Speaker 5 (22:20):
So okay, just so you know, I'm not sure the
ball was going to hit If it's his girlfriend you're
talking about, her name is Madison. I don't want to
get him in trouble Amanda. Now, all of a sudden,
you're going to cause controversy. Madison, my goodness, gracious.
Speaker 6 (22:33):
Good luck with that con.
Speaker 5 (22:34):
I'll let you deal with her fans on the internet.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
I corrected it.
Speaker 6 (22:38):
You got it wrong. That's a Colin Coward problem.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
Okay, one more thing. It's not too early for three Gate.
Three games into the season, I said to j Mack.
I said, Okay, Austin Reeves is not a great defender.
DeAndre Ayton's awful. Lebron at this point's not elite, and
Luca barely tribes. So you have duplication at a real weakness.
You can't defend in the West. Lebron is better on ball,
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Luca needs the ball. Austin Reeves game is with the ball.
These games for Austin Reeves are wonderful. There are teams
like Boston, Houston, Miami that need an initiator of offense.
That Austin Reeves now is just duplication. Mediocre defender has
to have the ball, and you can see when he
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has the ball when Lebron and Lugarn playing, he's tremendous.
He is a prime prime player to move go get
like a nazarid Ish wing tough, physical defender because the
Lakers now are bad defensively and have too many guys
that need the ball? Am I nuts?
Speaker 5 (23:43):
No, You're not nuts? And this is the real question
is are the Lakers trying to win this season or not?
If they are trying to win this and I'm not,
there's a no judgment zone on my end because till
we see how long Lebron actually is out for and
(24:05):
what Lebron looks like in year twenty three, soon to
be age forty one, I think it'd be totally fair
for the Lakers to be conservative about.
Speaker 6 (24:14):
Their chances this season.
Speaker 5 (24:15):
But if you want to win this season, Austin Reeves
is duplicative because of Luca and Lebron and is your
number one asset to be able to go get a defender,
which the moment Lebron comes back, the Lakers are gonna
need the oldest player in the league to be one
of their two best wing defenders because other than Vanderbilt,
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they got none on the roster. God love Marcus Smart,
but he's a twelve minute a guy at this point
in his career. However, if your feeling is and I
think this was Lebron's concern over the summer. If your
feeling is, ah, we got Luca resigned, this is a
transition year, well then you probably keep Austin because you
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don't want Luca to be in a position a year
from now where he's your only initiator, your only ball handler.
Speaker 6 (25:09):
So that's the question.
Speaker 5 (25:10):
The question is how much do you value this season
versus flexibility moving forward?
Speaker 6 (25:17):
I don't know the answer that.
Speaker 5 (25:19):
I would think as long as I have Luka Doncic
and a guy who finished sixth in MVP voting last
year and Lebron, I'd try to go for it. And
in that context, Austin and credit to Austin for becoming
this level of player is redundant for a team that
needs a bunch of other things.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
Yes, a rim protector, athleticism, off ball diameter defender.
Speaker 5 (25:42):
I mean where the Lakers are built weird for twenty
twenty five. They're a team that can't really defend and
doesn't have great shooting. As great as Luca is, as
good as Lebron could be, that's not a recipe for
a deep playoff run.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
All right, Nick Wright, excellent work. First things first, it's great.
See anybody say your hell yeah, listen sometimes. You know,
I'm not gonna apologize for being a romantic. I see
Justin Herbert with his friend and it touched me, and
so you know whatever.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
Can you watch your language when you say it touched me?
By the way, have you looked her up on Instagrams?
Speaker 4 (26:22):
Madison Beer.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
She's a beautiful person.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
She doesn't follow me, but she has forty million followers.
She has a huge deal. I'd never heard of her before,
like six months ago.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
Well, you know a lot of these influencers are you know,
it's not back channels. It's just channels that we don't
we're not on right.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
Justin Fields used to hang out with Cameron Dicker in
the South Bay. Now he's leveled up to a celebrity
and a front row of Dodgers and Lakers.
Speaker 4 (26:48):
Hope it doesn't go to his head. That's your boy.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
Herbert certainly is. And now I'm a big fan of
hers as well.
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Speaker 1 (27:48):
Sorry, I just took a little cs to after that
Dodger game last night. We're all we're all a little sleepy.
I got one producer got two and a half hours sleep,
one got four, and fields great about it. It was
just wild. It's just crazy. I say this all the time.
We are so lucky. Obviously, I'm lucky to do what
I do and very very grateful, very very humbled. But
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we're so lucky right now. You look at all these
Dodger players, they're all like Otani and Betts and Freeman
and Yoshi and just the quality of the human being
you get in American sports. And I've said this about
the NFL, Josh Allen, Patrick Mahomes, justin Herbert Jordan love.
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They're such nice kids. And I know I'm saying kids,
but I have gray hair. But I'm watching that thing
last night, and I mean, the pressure on these athletes
that is just crazy. I mean, we all grow grew
up wanting to be like rock stars or athletes, at
least I did. Some guys wanted to be Fireman. I
get that too, but it was like, you know, it
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was superheroes, rock stars or athletes, and you're you're watching
what o'tani is doing and Freeman, and I am just
amazed at how good sports is in twenty twenty five.
I'm amazed with it. I can't even wrap my brain
around how good O'tawni is. I mean, Michael Jordan is
six for six. Otawni got on base nine times. That
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would be a good series for an all star in
a six game series, an all star level player, said
Vlad Guerrero. He got on base like nine times in
a five six game series. You'd be like, what was
the MVP of the series. Yeah, that's unbelievable. I mean, yeah,
Summer Walks I said seven years ago, he's Babe Ruth plus.
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My bad, He's Babe Ruth plus plus plus. J McK
with the news.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
No, no, hear on the news. This is the headline news.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
All right, kind of, Let's start with the Chiefs win
on Monday night football.
Speaker 4 (29:59):
It was a snoozer.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
They beat a Washington team playing their backup quarterback, Kansas
City feasting on another bottom feeder. Congratulations, guys. Travis Kelsey
did have a good game, six catches for ninety nine yards,
did have a drop early that led to an interception
right off his hands. Mahomes kind of muttered an F
bomb under his breath, you could see through the face mask.
Kelsey tied Priest Homes with his eighty third regular season touchdown,
(30:23):
good for most Enfranchise history. Here's Patrick Mahomes on Taylor
Swiss fiance.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
He's just like the true Chief's chief.
Speaker 9 (30:32):
I mean, he is the guy who's been here through
the whole thing, been here with Coach Read the entire time,
and he helped set the culture, you know, he helps
set the culture of what it means and to play
for Coach Reading, to play in Kansas City. And I
was able to come in and have that guy to
rely on. And so he's bringing all the records now,
and I mean he's all about the team. So I
want to make sure he gets that. Hopefully we can
get another football for him later in the season when
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he actually breaks the record.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
Say what you want, but Rashi, Rice Worthy, Kelsey, Juju,
Hollywood Brown, that is a stable of guys that can
make plays.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
Yeah, just do it against a good team and then
I'll be impressed. I mean, we didn't get excited when
the Bills smashed the Panthers and Andy Dalton, did we
We didn't go all apoplectic when Daniel Jones carved up
the Titans, Like, we don't do that. So I don't
know how well we should get all excited for the
Chiefs curb stomping a terrible Washington team with a backup quarterback,
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Like Washington's not a playoff team.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
No, they're not, They're not.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
Yeah, so this Bills game is everything. Hey, beat the Bills.
I'll give you your props. Do you have an early
read on Chiefs Bills?
Speaker 2 (31:35):
By the way?
Speaker 1 (31:36):
Kansas City by ten?
Speaker 3 (31:38):
Ooh, that's a hot take, wow, ten.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
On the Yeah, this game is in Buffalo, and yeah
I saw New England go in and win at Buffalo.
Kansas City can't What.
Speaker 3 (31:51):
Is this the transit of property? Because a plus B,
what's going on here? Cowherd sim it down. Now we
may have to go opposite on that one this week. No,
I don't have a pick for that game yet. Next up,
Oh yeah, it's the Cowboys. And this is kind of
an ugly story developing with Trayvon Diggs. Remember last year
he had that knee injury. Well, now he weirdly suffered
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some kind of concussion at home. It's unclear what went down,
but now he's being placed on the ir Remember Trayvon
Digs a few years ago was like an awesome I
was like, Oh, this guy's a stud. It hasn't gone great,
but Michaeh. Parsons has now chimed in. Of course, Michael
Parson's a bit of a vendetta against Dallas for how
it ended. Michael Parson's saying Diggs is coming off a
(32:35):
catastrophic knee injury and they just didn't do him right,
the type of injury he had. They forced him out there,
he had no rep the organization let him down.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
Well, I don't know the specifics in terms of, you know,
forcing him to practice and play, but I think there's
a possibility he won't be around with those two first
round picks. I think they're going to get an in
a corner.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
So well, that's assuming your boy Jerry doesn't trade those
picks to try to get a player and make a move.
I know you scoffed at that earlier, but would you
put anything past this guy. I mean, he made a
terrible deal for Trey Lance.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
He made a great deal for George Pickens. That was
a steal. That's one of the steals of the off seats,
and that.
Speaker 4 (33:19):
Was a great move getting Pickings.
Speaker 3 (33:20):
By the way, the Steelers should be ripped for giving
him up for nothing.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
Well, he man. I think he's a better fit with
Dak than kind of a the quarterback situation they had.
I think Dak has a way of making players who
can be a bit temperamental more mature. Give Dak credit,
Like when you play with Dak, everybody kind of gets
in line with Dak. Number Zeke was a little wild
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and then over the course of his career he's settled down.
Dak has a way of you know, he's like Dak's
like the dad you don't want to disappoint. He's like
mature and his speeches and his ability to kind of
lower the temperature in the room. Dallas has a lot
to deal with, ownership down a lot of noise. Dak
has got that unique ability where he just brings the
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temperature down. Jalen Hurts has this too. There's just a
maturity and ability. Take a deep breath, everybody, Let's bring
the noise down. And I think that's a credit to
Dak and Jalen Hurst.
Speaker 6 (34:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (34:15):
I can't wait for Michaeh Parsons to do a victory
lap after the Super Bowl and just shove it in
Jerry's face.
Speaker 4 (34:22):
Hey, you made a terrible deal. I know you just agree.
Speaker 3 (34:24):
Anyways, final story, Colin, let's go to the Rams.
Speaker 4 (34:26):
Touched on earlier.
Speaker 3 (34:27):
Tyler Shuck will be starting for the Saints. That's not
great news. The Rams have big news. Puka Nakua is back,
Colin mcveig announced yesterday. Pookah is expected to return to
practice and they expect him to play on Sunday against
the Saints. Remember Puka missed that game he suffered the
ankle injury I'm pretty sure was the ankle in London,
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and so the Rams should be fully formed.
Speaker 4 (34:49):
Rested off a bye.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
I'm sure you guys can't wait for the McVeigh numbers
off a bye.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
McVeigh off a bye at home against the New Orleans team.
Tyler shuck to me, is not an NFL quarterback?
Speaker 3 (35:02):
Oh really, Saints disagree they.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
Drafted early. I mean if this game ended thirty three
to three, would you be shocked? No, no, my bank
account would be thrilled. If you have survivor, you got
to hammer the rams here right, this is a lot.
I mean, nothing's a lock. I mean, well, who do
they play? I mean off a lot of So that's
the only thing I don't love is that you could
see them taking a twenty four nothing lead at half
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and shutting it, shutting the playbook down and just running
it out, winning, you know, twenty seven to seventeen. Running it.
That's what worries mean. It's fair, I mean because not
that the Niners don't know what they do, but I
could see McVay shutting it down at half and saying, listen,
you get one or two of easy year when you
don't have to play your defensive guy's sixty snaps and
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you know, Jared Verse like twenty eight snaps, you're done.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
Well.
Speaker 3 (35:52):
I don't know about twenty eight. But the final note is.
I watched that Buck Saints game closely. I told remember
last week I mentioned the Saints center McCoy, he's one of.
Speaker 4 (36:00):
The best in the league.
Speaker 3 (36:01):
He's out for the season, and I was like, oh,
vitaven Company. They're gonna wreck New Orleans. Couldn't run the football,
they were inept. Spencer Rattler was so now shook with
the backup center. And we know the Rams defensive line
is fairly nasty. I just don't see a path to
success for the Saints here. I love the Rams in
the spot.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
J Mack with the news, Well.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
That's the news, and thanks for stopping by The Herd.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
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Then it's Penn State, Ohio State Big Noon Saturday only
on fox.
Speaker 1 (37:12):
Man. There's a lot of good jobs open Florida, LSU,
Penn State. Those are three top ten jobs. I'm not
sure there's three great candidates. Lane Kiffin potentially, but he
may want to stay. You know, everybody thinks Americans are
more mobile. I saw reading something about six months ago
that most Americans don't want to move. They find a job,
they find a community, they want to be social, their
(37:33):
kids get into school. So I'm not sure if I mean,
if you can make blankety blank million dollars a year
at Old Miss and you kind of created, you know,
a great program, what's the extra two and a half
million going to mean at LSU? I don't know. It's
still the SEC and I don't know, Like Kurt Signetti,
(37:54):
why go to Penn State right now? Indiana would hammer
Penn State. It'd be one thing if, like Indiana new
going forward, our biggest boosters are not going to give
money anymore, or it was a regressing business. But if
you're in a business and the business is a snding like
Indiana football, why leave Ole Miss football? Why leave now?
(38:14):
If it's lifestyle and nothing against Oxford, Mississippi, but you
know a school in LA called in your you know
you love La. That's different. Or if you're like Brian
Kelly went Midwest to the South. If Brian Kelly got
offered the Penn State job, that may be a good
fit for him socially and football wise. But I want
to say this that, and we've said this a lot,
(38:35):
it doesn't take long for great to surface or even
very good. If you look at the playoff picture today,
we'll start with the NFC. I think this is what
it's going to look like. I think we've already determined.
Speaker 6 (38:52):
Now.
Speaker 1 (38:53):
I'm not saying the seeding is perfect. Green Bay one seed,
Phillia two, Tampa Bay three, Seattle for Detroit to five,
LAS six, San Francisco is seven. I think these are
the playoff teams. I think those are the teams I
picked for the playoffs. I'm not sure if I had
San Francisco, and I think I had them close that
feels like. I mean, the team that's right below that
(39:15):
is four and three Chicago, and I think Chicago will
make it interesting. But I think as long as San
Francisco can get somewhat healthy over the next six weeks.
I think the NFC playoff picture, that's what it's going
to look like. In the AFC, I don't buy Pittsburgh.
I think they will lose narrowly to Baltimore. I think
Baltimore is going to go on a heater with Lamar
(39:37):
Jackson and win five out of the next six, six
to the next seven. But I Indies one, New England two,
Denver three, Pittsburgh for Buffalo five, Chargers six, Kansas City seven.
This is mostly the teams we picked. I think Baltimore
and Houston i'd keep my eyes on. I just don't
(39:59):
buy Pittsburgh. I'm not blaming Aaron. I think they I
think Sunday night, when Green Bay faced the Steelers, it
felt like one franchise gets the current league in the
future and the other is really outdated. And the reason
I buy the Colts is because if you have a
great offensive line that will endure in December and January,
(40:24):
if you have great wide receivers Miami a few years
ago doesn't mean anything as the weather gets colder. I
look at line play now. I do think the Colts
could use another pass rusher, but I think they're old lines,
first or second in the league, and I think that endures.
Nick Wright does not believe in the Colts.
Speaker 5 (40:43):
Am I really going to say that Daniel Jones is
going to stare down Josh Allen or Patrick Mahomes in
an AFC for IT title game, Divisional round game and win.
And the answer to that question is no, I'm not.
They deserve to be respected, But I right now in
(41:06):
the AFC, I think the Chiefs are better than them.
I believe the Bills are better than them, and I
think in a playoff game, I would.
Speaker 6 (41:14):
Pick the Patriots. Before I picked them.
Speaker 1 (41:18):
I would not. I would pick the Chiefs to beat
the Colts and right now nobody else. I think Jonathan
Taylor would run for one hundred and fifty yards on
the Buffalo Bills. I think Bo Nicks would sit on
the sidelines and watch Jonathan Taylor in that offense dominate
(41:38):
time of possession. So I think Kansas City has built
to beat them. If if you have a great old line, hard,
it's the way to keep great quarterbacks on the sidelines.
Colts can do that. Our three, Derek Jeter on the
corner
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