Colin talks about how 1 player can destroy the chemistry of a NBA locker room
He talks to FOX College Football analyst Joel Klatt about Indiana QB Fernando Mendoza, teams who have joined the Big 10, the college football rankings, and more
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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It is a Wednesday. At is midweek. Great finishes in
college football last week, Joel Klatt about three minutes away,
got a feeling we're gonna get more this weekend. I
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saw this Golden State lost their sixth consecutive road game.
They went to ok See. I've always felt like in
the NBA, you've got to because it's the smallest locker room,
so one bad apple or one bad relationship can screw up.
Remember the Joy and Pool Warrior thing a couple of
years ago, just screwed up the whole team. I mean
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they talked about it when after he was traded to Washington,
They're like, yeah, screwed up the whole team. I always
feel like Oklahoma City last year, all young, all aspirational, unified,
Denver three years ago, all their star players. None of
them had a title, none of them had a chip Jokich, Murray,
Gordon Porter unified, Celtics Tatum, Jalen Brown unified. I never
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feel like the Warriors now are unified. Old guys were,
Katie worked, Iguadala work, Jimmy Butler worked, Boget worked. Every
time they bring new guys in, there's a struggle because
it's not unified. Steph what thirty seven four titles, Draymond
thirty five ish four titles. Then you have Pods and Kaminga.
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They're just trying to establish themselves. It's a totally different
timeline psychologically, physically, it just doesn't make any sense. It's
not a unified team. Steve Kerr is not a therapist,
he's a coach. And so Draymond Green was talking about
agendas after last night's loss.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
I think everybody was committed to winning and doing that
anyway possible. Do you have to make those personal agenda
work in the team confines and if it doesn't work,
then you kind of got to get rid of your
agenda or or eventually the agenda is the cause of
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someone getting rid of you.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Well, my argument would be is Pods and Kaminga. Do
they have agendas or are they just ambitious? There's a
fine line between having an agenda and being super ambitious,
and I just I don't. I never feel like the
young guys really ideally work with the old guys. With
the Warriors, it's always been a much easier place to
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bring an old guy in, Iggy KD Butler. Butler worked
the first game. He literally worked instantly. KD worked instantly,
Iggy worked instantly. Young got Kaminga, I mean, what are
we on now? Year four? I mean, pods is year
what two?
Speaker 3 (03:12):
Three?
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Just doesn't feel like it's gonna work. And with that,
Joel Klatt joins us off al Wild Wild Weekend. Oh so,
you know it's interesting.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
I was.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
If you're gonna be the first or second player in
a draft, they always say, just go pro. Okay, it
doesn't matter. I remember Matt Lioner years ago came back
to college. He was a top ten pick, and people said,
if your top top ten, just just go pro. You
can get hurt, you can lose your rhythm, you may
lose a great left tackle or a coach. I'm watching
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Mendoza for Indiana play big strong, huge arm, great in crisis.
Hard for me to not look at him and go,
that's a Sunday player.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
I mean to me, I feel the same about Dante Moore.
But Mendoza has such a big arm that when you
were calling the game and watching it, did it feel
like an NFL quarterback to you? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (04:08):
I mean, listen there. It wasn't perfect. He struggled at
moments during that game. Their protection plan wasn't wasn't great,
and Penn State did a great job defensively. That was
the best defensive game Penn State has played maybe the
entire season. They shut down Indiana's run game. It made
it difficult on him, but Mendoza made some big throws
when he needed to, and namely on.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
That last drive.
Speaker 5 (04:29):
You know that first play of that last drive, by
the way, they were sacked. So they've got eighty seven
yards to go. There was a minute thirty left and
they have got no timeouts, and the guy goes right
down the field.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Big throw after big throw after big throw.
Speaker 5 (04:40):
And every one of them was leveraged properly and inaccurately
in a place is where only his guy could get it. Now, granted,
they've made some incredible catches. The Becker catch was wild Cooper.
I mean, Gus and I would lose in our minds
with that catch at the back of the end zone.
But to your question, yes, Mendoza is a pro. There's
no doubt about it. And for me, it's it's not
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even necessarily about about like, well, where is your stock
this year?
Speaker 1 (05:05):
To me, it's about are you ready? Are you ready?
Speaker 5 (05:08):
Because what you see in the NFL. And I've brought
this up and I bring this up constantly with you.
If you look at the guys that win Super Bowls
on average in the last you know, two and a
half decades, if you go to their college career, they've
all started over thirty games. Well, Mendoza started two years
at cal and now a year at Indiana, so he's
highly experienced. I value that a lot more than even
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just these these few games of tape that Ty Simpson
has played at Alabama. Who doesn't have that body of
work from a start's perspective. Now, that doesn't mean that
Mendoza is definitely going to be better than Ty Simpson.
It means that those two decisions for Mendoza, whether he
wants to come out or not, or and Ty Simpson
are different because of their experience level and how much
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experience they have. I think that the NFL and the
guys that and teams and organizations that are really smart,
really value the guys that have a deep body of work.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
By the way, Dante Moore ugly game in Iowa made
a huge throw up the right sideline the college football
twelve team college football bracket right now, you'd have Oregon
against Notre Dame. How do you view Dante Moore? Now,
they were missing a lot of so like Simpson, Like Simpson,
he needs he needs more time.
Speaker 5 (06:22):
Like if I'm Dante More, if I was advising Dante Moore, hey,
I would say go back to school.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Now.
Speaker 5 (06:28):
What he did against Iowa was fantastic and similar to Mendozo,
wasn't great all day and then he gets into a
two minute situation and he plays his best football. And
by the way, he did that without a lot of receivers.
I think you were about to say that before he
in four of them. He missed four of them, all
of his best wide receivers to tight end to Corey
and Moore, all these guys, and yet he was still
able to orchestrate the drive in a tough environment, tough
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conditions against a very good team and end up winning
the game. Like, there's a lot I love about Dante Moore,
but I do think he needs more time as a quarterback.
But that's a team that's getting better. Their defense is
getting better. They showed up to Iowa and they beat
Iowa in an Iowa game, and that tells me a
lot about the nature of their team, the physicality of
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their defense, their ability to run the football. They did
a really great job in that game because Iowa was
playing really well. It's a tough place to win and
to come up with that win showed me a lot.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
So I think this is interesting. So when the USC's
and the Oregons and UCLA Washington join the Big Ten,
the big take was, oh, it's cold, good luck. Well,
I've seen USC beat Nebraska, I've seen Oregon beat Ohio
State and Eugene and Penn State. I've seen Washington win
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at Maryland, and I've seen these Pac twelve teams go
out to LA and I watched Penn State lose to
UCLA and USC hammer Michigan. Do you think we can
all take a deep breath now? Is that the whole
West Coast team can't compete in the snow. When I
watch these games, I think Ayah was going to lose
in LA this weekend. I think Minnesota's gonna lose to
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Oregon this weekend. I don't I always thought it was overstated.
Do you do you think that whole West Coast team
playing Midwest won't work? I think it's working fine for
West Coast teams well as West Coast is different than
South Beach.
Speaker 5 (08:23):
If you asked me like, hey, Miami, you know, like
Miami is going to be in the cold, whether it's
the Dolphins or the Canes, I'm like, they don't handle
that very well. You know, I don't think USC plays
great on the road, even though they got a win
against Nebraska. College teams don't most college teams, So that's right,
And I'm not.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
I would disagree with you in this.
Speaker 5 (08:45):
I still believe that that this game at its core
is about matchups. And for instance, Illinois was a bad
matchup for USC. Why because they wanted to run the
football right at that defense, and that's and that's one
of the areas of weakness for USC's defense.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
That's what that was a big issue.
Speaker 5 (09:05):
When they played Notre Dame even Michigan, even though they
were able to win the game, Michigan was able to
run the football. Well, well, they're they're welcoming a team,
granted it's at home where they've played better. What do
you think Iowa is gonna do?
Speaker 1 (09:17):
You see? This is a bad matchup for USC. The
Iowa defense is specifically suited to take a team like
USC and frustrate them because they won't be able to
get chunk plays. They've got levels of defense. Tips and
overthrows usually end up in the hands of the defender.
That's how they turn the ball over, create short fields.
And then they're gonna run the absolute crap out of
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the football and they're gonna say, hey, US, can you
stop it? And they're gonna run and then run and
then run and then run some more. And I've got
serious doubts that USC can hold up in a game
like that, serious doubts. I think Iowa wins this one outright.
They're six and a half point dogs. I think Iowa
wins on the West Coast because of matchup. Again, that
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specificity of where Iowa wants to play, where they're strong
and where USC is weak. So I was thinking of this.
I was looking at the college football bracket. Texas and
m can win the SEC. Not play Oklahoma, Ole, Miss Bama,
or Georgia. They play a lot of teams that just
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fired their coach. So I so you're saying.
Speaker 5 (10:24):
Regular season, right, So they would have to play one
of those teams in the champ game or maybe even Texas.
If Texas was able to get into the championship. To
win the SEC, they will have to beat someone very
good that earned their way into that position. Okay, last year,
we watched this playoff and we thought, after we watched it,
maybe Indiana shouldn't have been in.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Oh No, I mean that was a terrible I'm saying,
give me somebody running.
Speaker 5 (10:51):
We got that from the atrocious commentary during the game
and they started throwing that. I guess when I didn't
hear that when Ohio State was drilling Tennis and that
was even a bigger margin. So no, no, no, I
I don't know exactly where you were going at. You
got me all triggered on this. Indiana didn't deserve to
be in last year. I will tell you this though.
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Schedules in general need to be rethought within conferences, So
I will agree with your point that you're trying to
make on the underlying thing, like for instance, for instance,
and for example, I believe that the better teams in
the conference, or the teams that finished high in the
standings one year, should have to play the tougher conference
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schedules the next year, agree in order to drive more parody,
in order to drive more fairness. That's what the NFL does,
and that's what we should do within conference versus leaving
it up to chance. I understand that you've got to
retain some rivalries and there are games that are always
going to be on the schedule, and that's fine. Just
like the NFL, we always play two division games, but
there's those few matchups and they're just little tipping point
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matchups where you're gonna play a first play schedule. In
the NFL, I think we should have our version in
college football of a first play schedule where if you
win the conference like Oregon did last year in the
Big Ten, that you would have to then go and
play a more difficult slate of games in the Big
Ten the next year, and if you finished last, like
whoever finished last this year, I don't know who did,
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Northwestern or Rutgers or someone along those lines. You would
get an easier draw and you wouldn't have to go
and beat your head against the wall facing like Indiana
and Ohio State and Michigan and Oregon all in one year.
So your premise, I think is correct.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
Yeah. You know, by the way, that USC Notre Dame game,
everybody shed tears when I suggest that maybe it's not
the greatest thing for USC. If USC beats Iowa this week,
it'd be a good game. I agree with you. I
think it's I like USC close, but it's a good game.
If they did not play Notre Dame this year, USC
didn't play them, they could go to Oregon. If they
were competitive, they'd have a lost to Illinois and Oregon
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they'd make the playoff. Is that Notre Dame game?
Speaker 5 (12:57):
This is the problem within that large playoff. This is
the problem, and it's not tied to a defined path
or automatic berths. You know, when we're in a beauty pageant,
it's going to encourage teams like Notre Dame or USC
or any team to not schedule difficult non conference games.
That's a problem in college football, which, by the way,
I do think that one of the reasons why Texas
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is being ranked so high as they are now by
the Committee is that the Committee is trying to give
them the benefit of the doubt that they went out
and played Ohio State. Totally agree, and they're trying to
not knock them or hold that against them so that
they can encourage others to do the same. You know,
there's been a it's discussed. I don't know how much
traction it's gotten, but Colin, they have discussed at some
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level behind closed doors, having somewhat of a point system
in college football to go along with the Committee and
maybe even overtake the Committee, and it would go as follows, like,
let's just say Texas and Ohio State play this year
and there are both top five teams and now they're
both top ten teams still here late in the November,
to go and play that game, and even if you
went on the road and lost, you would get five
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points in a PowerPoint structure. Meanwhile, if you were to
schedule a game like let's say Texas didn't want to
play Ohio State, they wanted to play like I don't know, ut,
you know, San Antonio or some lower level to you know, Louisiana,
Tech Monroe, whatever it is. Even if they won that
game at home in the non conference, they would get
zero points. So in a point structure type of system,
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as we're trying to compete for the college football playoff,
we would have a point system that rewarded teams for
going and playing tough non conference games versus scheduling a
cupcake in their home stadium. I think that's something interesting.
I would love to vet that out a little bit more,
but that's something that has been talked about in college football.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
All Right, you have Michigan Northwestern at Wrigley this weekend.
Where are you with Michigan right now? The coach, the
quarterbacks super talented. They've got some receivers in the quarterback
I like, but where are we? You know when legends leave.
When Chip Kelly left Oregon, we like Mark Helfridge, the
longer reader was there. It didn't work. It is the
history tells you when a legend leaves, giving the job
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to a staff member that stays doesn't work. Remember you
go back to Miami. Wait, I'm sorry, do we Is
it not working for Ohio State? And Ryan Day? Well no, no,
hold on, wait again again?
Speaker 5 (15:13):
Is Ryan Day not the highest percentage winning coach in
the history of college football.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Ryan Day was this hot guy that could have gotten
a head job. In a lot of places. People Ryan
Day was the buzz. He was like Ben Johnson. A
lot of people talking about Ryan Day. NFL teams talked
about Ryan Day, right, like the coordinator? Who's this young kid?
When you give the job to a staff member, generally
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when a legend.
Speaker 5 (15:39):
I mean Collins, Sharon Moore is just a staff member.
He was the coordinator of the national champion. You think
he couldn't have got a job. He was the interim
head coach against Penn State in a top five matchup
on the road. He beat Ohio State, as the internet
like do he was the head coach for those games.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
But history says, even in the NFL, to go get
a successful head coach, bam, go get nick.
Speaker 5 (16:01):
How did that work for LSU with Brian Kelly, Well,
that work for Texas A and M with Jimbo Fisher.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
Well, you know, Jimbo. I was never a big Jimbo
guy to begin with, So that wasn't a guy I
would have hired and given a hundred million too. But
I disagree with you.
Speaker 5 (16:19):
I actually look around and I think Penn State is
in a pickle right now because they're trying to create
something out of thin.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
Air, whereas what what has worked so far.
Speaker 5 (16:29):
You've got two guys that were elite level coordinators that
got jobs at places that had had had a success
before them, and infrastructure to continue that sex success. Sorry,
that's Kirby Smart at Georgia and that's Dan Landing at Oregon.
Then you've got the guys that were great head coaches
at a lot of places that won football games, that
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can go into someplace and replace and do well.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
That's Kaylin de Boor.
Speaker 5 (16:55):
That was Urban Meyer when he left from from Utah
and went to Florida and then ultimately Ohio State. And
then you have the guys that were promoted from within.
Dabos Sweeney was promoted from within. You've got Lincoln Riley
was promoted from within. You've got Sharon Moore was promoted
from within. You've got Ryan Day was promoted. So like
that that works, And I don't think that you can
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just say one doesn't and one does. I personally believe
that Michigan they're the youngest team in the Big Ten
right now. They're seven and two, and they could put
themselves in a position where if they were to beat
Ohio State for the fifth straight time, they would go
to the playoff. So I I don't there's no way
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you could categorize this as like not working.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
They're super young and they're really good. No, I asked
the question. I said, I didn't say it wasn't working.
I said, where you're implying though they've been they've been
really inconsistent, like not competitive against USC you know, week
to week. Not quite sure what I get. I think
Underwood's unbelievable. Yeah, that's fair. Listen, I think that's fair.
Speaker 5 (18:05):
And I think that that's part and parcel to a
young team and and a young head coach. I would
be really surprised if this doesn't trend in a really
positive direction from this point moving forward. I mean, they're
gonna beat Northwestern. Maybe Northwestern is a good football team.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
Well they are.
Speaker 5 (18:24):
You're gonna be like, you're gonna be with us? Am
I gonna see you?
Speaker 1 (18:27):
Well, listen, you're gonna be a big new kickoff that
is being negotiated, negotiated.
Speaker 5 (18:32):
Does it have to do with the temperature outside? Actually,
Saturday is gonna be nice, and that's what I that's
what I saw.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
It's supposed to be like sixty two or something like that. Yeah,
it's sixty two here every day. Sometimes there's white stuff
on the ground, but it's still sixty two. Good see anybody,
Great to see you as well. Man, have a good day.
I'm not saying yeah, I'm not saying Michigan is not
gonna work. I'm saying, in my lifetime, generally, go get
a Chris Peterson, Go get to Brian Kelly, go get
a Nick Sabe, and go get somebody that's succeeded. I
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mean people on Lincoln Riley. He won eleven games in
over four years at Oklahoma. He was a successful coach.
You can do it with the Ryan days. But you
know what one Natty's was Urban Meyer at Florida who'd
been a head coach Urban Meyer at Ohio State. Generally
I am for at a top program with all the pressure,
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go get a big dog. Now. I think Brian Kelly
was a weird fit. The southern twang. It just didn't
feel right, and I think he took it for the money.
There are you and over money still at LSU with
Brian Kelly, I think he took it for the paycheck,
and that Okay, I've said one six is the first
number in your age. People take jobs for paychecks. It's
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not about how it works going forward, or it's you know, hey,
can I get a vacation place in Naples? You know,
people make those decisions all the time. But I'm not
saying the Michigan thing's not gonna work. But I've watched
a couple of stinkers this year where I'm like, okay,
well the quarterbacks of freshmen. Maybe that's it.
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Speaker 1 (20:41):
So I thought it was interesting when Joel Klatt says,
and I've heard this now from two different people, Dante
More at Oregon should stay in college. Great kid. I
think he's ready for the pros. I don't think the
extra year is going to change anything. But you know,
he's a great, humble kid. It's not going to hurt
him to stay in college because he I don't know
if he'd be the number one pick, but I looked
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at the mock draft today. So if you take the
worst six teams in the league, here is the current
NFL draft order. Okay, Tennessee one, New Orleans, two Giants,
three Cleveland, four Jets, five Raiders, six bad teams. Tennessee
and the Giants aren't taking quarterbacks. Okay, New Orleans I
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think should Okay, I I think they should. They'd take Mendoza, Big, strong, starts, smart,
can move Mendoza. Indiana's your number one quarterback off the board. Well, Cleveland,
the Jets and the Raiders only new quarterback and if
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Dantae Moore is not available, I don't buy the rest
of these guys as coming and start guys I'd go
get mac Jones if you're not watching the Niners right now.
Don't have Brandon Aiyuk, don't have a great offensive line,
don't have Ricky Pierce Piersoll, don't have it. Deebo's gone trade.
Mac Jones ninth best passer, rating second in passing yards,
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so PFF has him as the ninth best quarterback. That's
above Caleb Williams, although Caleb has been the last two
weeks has moved up, So I mean last week thirty
three or thirty nine, I don't care if it's underneath.
He's doing it with backups. Kendrick Bourne is born back
there andzep I swear he's back. So that's my take.
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And I don't think San Francisco wants to relinquish mac
Jones because brock pretty has been banged up. But last
year the Seahawks are like, yeah, we're not going to
draft the guy with our top pick. Let's get let's
get Sam Darnold worked out pretty well. Minnesota's like, we'll
let Sam Donald go. We're gonna take the guy we drafted.
How's that working at the Colts are like, no, he
tried drafting guy Anthony Richardson, We're gonna go get a
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guy in the league. Daniel Jones. You watch the Colts,
So the Colts of the Seahawks are like, we'll take
guys in the league, Tampa Bay, We'll take Baker Mayfield,
guy in the league that's working out, okay, draft Now,
Mendoza is an a prospect, big, smart, strong. I mean,
you can't watch that last drive against Penn State on
the road. Those are great big boy Sunday throws. But
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as Joel Klatt says, if Dante Moore doesn't come out,
none of these guys, nuss Meyer Simpson, these guys aren't
ready to come into the NFL and start. No way.
I think Dante Moore could if he got the right coach.
He'd flourish if he didn't need struggle. Mendoza, I think
is good enough to overcome some nonsense even if he
joins a You know, New Orleans got a bit of
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a mess. But if you're not paying attention to mac Jones,
mac Jones is having an unbelievable you know, I always
thought mac Jones was, after the New England experience, kind
of a bridge guy. No, now I think he's a
franchise guy. I mean when he had Josh McDaniel's pro bowler.
Now Shanahan good B B plus, guy can spin it.
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Jmck with the news. No, no, no turns.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
This is the headline news.
Speaker 6 (24:11):
These are troubled times, Colin.
Speaker 7 (24:13):
For Green Bay Packers fans, they are very very upset
with mister Matt Lafleur.
Speaker 6 (24:19):
The fans are outraged.
Speaker 7 (24:20):
Back to back bad home losses where you the offense
just look ghastly. The media asked Lafloor if he felt
like he is coaching for his job. Yes, his job
the rest of the season.
Speaker 8 (24:32):
I'll leave that for everybody else to de side. I'll
just focus on the day to day and trying to
do I feel like you're always coaching for everything in
this league. You know, it's just my mindset. That's always
been that way. You know, you can't ever exhale. You
got to always be pushing. And that's just my mindset.
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So and that will be my mindset until they tell
me not to coach anymore.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
Yeah, I don't think he'd be unemployed long. I think
he'd get a job real quick if somebody wanted to
let him do. Listen, they had a bad free agent signing.
They overpaid banks from San Francisco. That's been a bad
free agent signing. The Mikey deal was a good deal.
They are broken offensively. The scripted stuff doesn't work. The
run game doesn't work. They do have I think the
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craft injury and the read injury are punitive, like it's
noticeably it hurts. But I think all this talk of
firing Matt Lafleur, I say, who have I compared Matt
Lafluur to. They No, Lincoln Riley.
Speaker 6 (25:36):
Oh, Lincoln Riley Right, Okay, I just.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
Had this conversation over the weekend. Matt Laflour and Lincoln Riley.
You know they're smart. You know they win games. You
know they're great play designers. You know they're on the
right side of the ball in football today. You know
they're great play callers. Although Lafloor gets banged on that.
And by the way, they have a history of elevating
mat Aaron Rodgers got better, McCarthy left, Lafleour came in,
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Aaron won MVP, and Lafleur, by the way, Jordan Love
was very good. I think a lot of this is
simply Jordan Love. When you take away his best tight
end and arguably his best receiver, and they can't run
the ball. You're asking him to win games. I think
Mahomes can do that, and Lamar and Josh can do that.
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I don't think Jalen Hurts and Jordan Love are that
kind of guy. Suddenly the Eagles can't run. Jalen Hurts
isn't as good. Suddenly the Packers can't run that. Jordan
Love doesn't look as good. The Chargers have no run game,
no offensive line, and they're in a three game winning streak.
Because that's what an elite quarterback does. I think Jordan
Love we've overvalued him. He's probably closer to B plus
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than he is A. And that's okay. But the idea
that Matt Laflour can't coach, I don't know.
Speaker 6 (26:54):
Yeah. So a couple things here.
Speaker 7 (26:56):
Number one, the interior of the offensive line of the
Packers is garbage.
Speaker 6 (26:59):
I mean, by the way, their center just.
Speaker 7 (27:00):
Went on ir today and I was reading some stuff,
he may be done for the season. That is terrible news.
They could not block Jalen Carter up the middle. Love
was struggling. He can handle pressure off the edges because
their tackles are good but their interior three are grading
out horribly, including your guy Banks. So if you're looking
to bet this weekend, the Giants do not get pressure
up the middle. They come off the edges. Packers will
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be fine. I do wonder this Lafleur fire him stuff.
We have a mutual friend who's in the Midwest and
he was talking. He's like laughing at this time, like
this is goofy Colin. Two years ago, when the Chargers
fired their guy Stay, there was an obvious candidate, Jim Harbaugh.
Last year there was an obvious candidate Vrabel. There's no
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obvious candidate this year. And I'm sorry to burst your
Lane Kiffin bubble. People are not firing their head coach
to go get Lane Kiffin. There's no slam dunk coordinator
or college football guy that is like, we gotta fire
our guy and go get him. That's part of the
reason I haven't said, like, let's get rid of Aaron Glenn.
I don't think there's an anyone great on the market.
McCarthy's good. We would agree, they're not.
Speaker 6 (28:03):
They're not bringing McCarthy back.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
To Green Bay, right, So who are you getting if
you fire lafloor Well, Penn States found this out. They
fired James Franklin. It's like because of a losing streak.
It's like, well atally different.
Speaker 6 (28:16):
They kind of had to.
Speaker 7 (28:17):
I mean, he lost the locker room, he lost the booster,
he lost everybody.
Speaker 6 (28:20):
I don't know. I just look around.
Speaker 7 (28:21):
Tell me who's the number one candidate if you have
a coaching opening in the NFL, And if you say
Lane Kiffin.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
We like Ladey. Mike McCarthy is the number one candidate.
Speaker 6 (28:30):
Okay, well he ain't going back to Green Bay.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
That's that's right, that's right.
Speaker 6 (28:33):
So then so what do we doing. Are we firing
him for Jesse Minter of the Chargers?
Speaker 1 (28:36):
We're not doing that.
Speaker 7 (28:37):
Who are you going to get a retread like Nagi
or Vance Joseph Well, just so.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
If you brought it, if you brought in the defensive coach,
he'd get rid of Jeff Hafley, who's been a home
run defensive coordinator.
Speaker 7 (28:47):
Higher So there's just no great offensive guys out there now.
You could say, if you want to get real creative,
you know, I know Alabama and Kaylin de Boor had
some issues at the beginning. You know, the Alabama fans
after like the lost FSU. They were done with him
like that quickly. Kaylen de Boor is freaking good. Are
you watching Alabama? Ye yea sequencing everything about this. Kaylen
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de Boor can coach in the pros, No question.
Speaker 6 (29:12):
That's a guy I would consider.
Speaker 7 (29:13):
And obviously Marcus Freedan, Yeah, I don't think Freeman's on
the market. Ryan Day is maybe interesting, but if you
talk to Klatt, there's no way Ryan Day's leaving.
Speaker 6 (29:22):
Like right, I don't know anyways, All right, let's move
on to the next story.
Speaker 7 (29:25):
The Philadelphia Eagles Colin are seven and two Tyler Seahawks
and rams for best record in the NFC ahead of
their matchup with the Lions. Nick Sirianni, how about this stat?
I this is staggering, Nick Sirianni, walk around, guy. Nick
Sirianni is fourth all time among NFL head coaches with
a seven to fourteen win percentage. Yeah, this is a
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staggering stat. Guy Chamberlain, whoever that is probably when you
were watching football back in the day. We all know
John Madden, Lombardi, George Allen, Nick Sirianni.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
Well, I think that list is a great example. Outside
of Lombardi, and Madden. Is George Allen a top five
coach and I remember him well. Is Guy Chamberlain. I
don't know who that is. Yeah, So a lot of
it's situational. I mean, when we look at the greatest
coaches of all time, where's Bill Walsh, Yeah, Where's Belichick
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and Andy Reid? Yeah. So that's why I was, you know,
these these all time lists, be careful. I think he's
shown to be. Uh, he's a really good fit in Philly.
But I don't think it'd he lost the job. He'd
have a lot of job offers out there. I think
people think he works in Philly with Howie and Jeffrey
Lorie and Jalen Hurts and the roster. I don't think
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he's bad. He's better than I thought he would be.
But I think it's a it's a it's a collaborative
effort in Philly.
Speaker 7 (30:49):
Yeah, and uh, you know, it certainly helps to get
Jalen Hurts obviously, who's been a slam dunk. And then
you know, trading for aj Brown, who we're going to
talk about in the next hour Colin just as a tease,
that's what they call it here in the industry. Final
story is the Vikings, and listen, I have strong thoughts
about this JJ McCarthy stuff.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
Colin.
Speaker 6 (31:05):
We got to dig into it here.
Speaker 7 (31:07):
So remember last year Vikings winning every game with Sam Darnold, Right,
But JJ McCarthy, the young guy they drafted and Kevin
O'Connell loves him. You know, McCarthy's ad four starts and
he's got a lot of injuries, and you say he's
injury prone and slight. I saw him running around against
the Ravens and I was getting nervous because he's not
a big dude.
Speaker 6 (31:26):
How about this?
Speaker 7 (31:27):
An NFL analyst says, the Vikings have a game flow problem,
saying JJ is great on the scripted stuff, right, first
drive of the game that you plan all week and
map it out, but falls off.
Speaker 6 (31:38):
A cliff after the first two he does.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
It's not running the atom.
Speaker 6 (31:42):
We've talked about this, right. Here's my thing.
Speaker 7 (31:46):
The man is the youngest starting quarterback in the NFL.
Speaker 6 (31:49):
He's about to have his fifth NFL start. Does it
not seem weird that.
Speaker 7 (31:54):
Everybody's going after JJ McCarthy And is it because of
donald was good last year? Because Colin, you would I've
talked about this for years The way to build an
NFL team is on the rookie quarterback contract Sam Donald
at forty million. Great, sure, but it ended badly last year.
I would rather have JJ McCarthy on the rookie contract
and round out the roster. So I don't understand why
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there's so much hate for McCarthy and people keep going
after him.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
Well, I think four starts. I don't think there's hate.
I think there's cynicism. This is not college football, it's
pro And I said on Monday, right wrong. I could
be totally wrong on this. I didn't get it in college.
I don't get it now. I think the best argument
for JJ McCarthy is the argument for Sam Darnold. When
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Sam came out of USC, he was twenty one. Okay,
when you're that young, you need really, really good coaches
to start. The difference is JJ McCarthy is super young
and does have that. So I'm going to be less
patient with JJ McCarthy. He had a great college coach
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and has a really good NFL coach. Sam Darnold went
from below average college coach to a disaster head coach,
So I think your young argument absolutely legitimate. But the
difference is Sam went from bad to bad. The Vikings
have been well run my entire life. You can go
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back to the seventies. They've always been a good franchise.
Kevin O'Connell's web of average and Harbaugh is a great coach.
So JJ's gotten great coaching. And I get this, So
I the the age thing is real, but he got
I mean, honestly, Kevin O'Connell, Justin Jefferson, elite left tackle,
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Jordan Addison a division without a great defense before Micah
got to Green Bay, like he should be better than this.
Speaker 6 (33:50):
Sar Darris Alas had some injuries than left tackle.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
But he's a really good left tackle.
Speaker 6 (33:53):
Yeah, he's excellent. I guess I just want.
Speaker 7 (33:56):
I know, patience isn't a thing that we have in
society right now, but can we Is he a sample
size of I don't know, a season or two. No,
I mean people are willing to write off Michael Pennix already. No, No,
he hasn't looked great.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
No.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
I've said with JJ McCarthy, I want us to play
him every snap the rest of the year, every snap.
This is not a bench him. It's like play JJ.
I'm saying. My initial belief is he looks like Michigan
JJ McCarthy that he's kind of being carried. He's not caring,
and that's what I want to see.
Speaker 7 (34:26):
I'll say this. I'll just put it on record. I
was bullish on the Vikings in the off season. I'm
buying JJ McCarthy's stock pennies on the dollar.
Speaker 6 (34:32):
Give it to me.
Speaker 7 (34:33):
I believe this is a potential Pro Bowl quarterback in
a year or two, and maybe all Pro within five years.
I'm really a believer in JJ McCarthy.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
Well, I like your stand.
Speaker 7 (34:42):
I like where you know you're keeping your heels in sometimes.
I mean, you're all in on Caleb. We're going Midwest
on the show now, I mean as well, but find.
Speaker 6 (34:51):
Another Midwest quarterback. I'm not taking Jordan Love all right.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
J Mack with the news, Well.
Speaker 3 (34:56):
That's the news, and thanks for stopping by the herd.
Speaker 1 (34:59):
Lie, No, I did that earlier. I said, it's very difficult.
It's easy to spend somebody else's money. But if you
were a general manager, you were And I put down
the eleven quarterbacks in the NFL twenty five and under,
and I said pick three that you would write a
check for, knowing when you write the check, like if
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you wrote it for Caleb Williams. You can't keep DJ Moore,
Joe Tooney, you can't. Drake May doesn't have a lot
of stars around him. The best players you know, Will Campbell,
Travan Henderson, Kyle Williams. They're all rookies, so you wouldn't
have to make big changes there. But when I put
that list up an hour ago and I said, okay,
you got to pay three of them, Drake May's the
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easy one. Of the other ten remaining I would pay today.
I would extend C. J. Stroud and Caleb Williams, and
their passer ratings hover around ninety, which is kind of
like C level quarterback play and I but those are
the three I would do. That's why what everybody bails
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on bow Nicks. I'm like, Bo's durable, he never misses,
starts college or pro. He's excellent in college and pro
in the fourth quarter, and he wins a bunch of games.
He won a bunch of Oregon, he wins a bunch
of Denver. I mean, durable win games good in the
fourth You guys, can all you start looking at all
these quarterbacks twenty five and hundred eight of them are
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hurt all the time. Just a thought.
Speaker 3 (36:27):
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Speaker 1 (36:57):
There are three great college basketball players this year that
could go number one in most years. BYU has one
of them. Duke, one of the Boozer kids, Carlos Boozer's son.
He's got twins, but one of them's a stud. And
then the Darren Peterson at Kansas. Kansas isn't very good.
That kid looks like Kobe. I mean that kid is
so good. He is magic. He can shoot. Kid at
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BYU not I don't know if he's a great perimeter
player yet Peterson, this kid at Kansas, wow. I mean
that kid is lightning quick, pull up, makes tough shots.
I know a coach the coached against him. I've watched
him and he is something else like Darren Peterson at Kansas.
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Just go watch him. That's what Kobe looked like at
nineteen years old. I would imagine. Wow. You know, it's
really interesting. The nil in college football has changed two things.
One of them is, you know, Obama doesn't have a
lot of money. Texas Tech has a lot of money.
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Oregon has a lot of money. BYU by the way,
they got money they can go buy players. Alabama doesn't
have a lot of money. Ohio State was great before,
they're great now. They have both. But it's interesting. Urban
Meyer was talking about this. You're seeing all these new
schools get considered for the college football playoffs. Just ask
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yourself why are they there? Because they can buy good players.
So your history does matter. High school recruiting does matter.
But urban Meyer talked about it last week. Some of
these schools you would have never thought five years ago
they could be top ten teams.
Speaker 4 (38:42):
I think this is interesting.
Speaker 7 (38:43):
Colin.
Speaker 4 (38:44):
We've talked about out with the old Clemson, LSU, Penn State, Florida,
Florida State Wolverines that're kind of out and then in
how about this IU Ole, miss BYU, Texas Tech, Utah Bandy,
Georgia Tech, all with a shot for the college playoff
parody and college football has never been like this.
Speaker 1 (39:00):
Here's the other thing. The nil's done. Some of these
quarterbacks like Leonoris Sellers, who I would have no problem
drafting if I was the Rams late first round and
not planned for two years. He may just stay in college.
He's like twenty. So some of these college quarterbacks. Mendoz's
got to come out. He's too good at Indiana. He's
too good. He's gonna be the first quarterback taken. Dante Moore,
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in my opinion, could come out, but Oregon's got a
lot of money and they may pay him four million
bucks to stay. So the nil's done two things. It
is given some off brand or what you would call
smaller brand college football programs that have rich boosters a
chance to compete and get into the playoff. That's the
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first thing. The second thing it's done is some of
these college quarterbacks. And I think this is good for
the kid and good for the NFL and good for college.
It's keeping them in school longer. If Dante Moore stays
in school at Oregon, he'll be the number one pick
next year. So instead of going to it, you know,
and by the way, he'll get in their fifteen starts,
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but Mendoza's got to come out. But I've watched all
these college quarterbacks. The only three to me are first
rounders Mendoza, Dante More and the kid at South Carolina,
who I don't think is close to ready to start.
But if you're the Rams, you know, you get your
offensive tackle, you get this kid, you send him for
two years. He gets very interesting. But we went into
the year thinking they were like eight guys a draft.
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I think there are two guys I draft early in
the first one late. Everybody else feels second, third round.
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It is a Wednesday. At is midweek. Great finishes in
college football last week, Joel Klatt about three minutes away,
got a feeling we're gonna get more this weekend. I
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saw this Golden State lost their sixth consecutive road game.
They went to ok See. I've always felt like in
the NBA, you've got to because it's the smallest locker room,
so one bad apple or one bad relationship can screw up.
Remember the Joy and Pool Warrior thing a couple of
years ago, just screwed up the whole team. I mean
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they talked about it when after he was traded to Washington,
They're like, yeah, screwed up the whole team. I always
feel like Oklahoma City last year, all young, all aspirational, unified,
Denver three years ago, all their star players. None of
them had a title, none of them had a chip Jokich, Murray,
Gordon Porter unified, Celtics Tatum, Jalen Brown unified. I never
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feel like the Warriors now are unified. Old guys were,
Katie worked, Iguadala work, Jimmy Butler worked, Boget worked. Every
time they bring new guys in, there's a struggle because
it's not unified. Steph what thirty seven four titles, Draymond
thirty five ish four titles. Then you have Pods and Kaminga.
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They're just trying to establish themselves. It's a totally different
timeline psychologically, physically, it just doesn't make any sense. It's
not a unified team. Steve Kerr is not a therapist,
he's a coach. And so Draymond Green was talking about
agendas after last night's loss.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
I think everybody was committed to winning and doing that
anyway possible. Do you have to make those personal agenda
work in the team confines and if it doesn't work,
then you kind of got to get rid of your
agenda or or eventually the agenda is the cause of
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someone getting rid of you.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Well, my argument would be is Pods and Kaminga. Do
they have agendas or are they just ambitious? There's a
fine line between having an agenda and being super ambitious,
and I just I don't. I never feel like the
young guys really ideally work with the old guys. With
the Warriors, it's always been a much easier place to
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bring an old guy in, Iggy KD Butler. Butler worked
the first game. He literally worked instantly. KD worked instantly,
Iggy worked instantly. Young got Kaminga, I mean, what are
we on now? Year four? I mean, pods is year
what two?
Speaker 3 (03:12):
Three?
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Just doesn't feel like it's gonna work. And with that,
Joel Klatt joins us off al Wild Wild Weekend. Oh so,
you know it's interesting.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
I was.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
If you're gonna be the first or second player in
a draft, they always say, just go pro. Okay, it
doesn't matter. I remember Matt Lioner years ago came back
to college. He was a top ten pick, and people said,
if your top top ten, just just go pro. You
can get hurt, you can lose your rhythm, you may
lose a great left tackle or a coach. I'm watching
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Mendoza for Indiana play big strong, huge arm, great in crisis.
Hard for me to not look at him and go,
that's a Sunday player.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
I mean to me, I feel the same about Dante Moore.
But Mendoza has such a big arm that when you
were calling the game and watching it, did it feel
like an NFL quarterback to you? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (04:08):
I mean, listen there. It wasn't perfect. He struggled at
moments during that game. Their protection plan wasn't wasn't great,
and Penn State did a great job defensively. That was
the best defensive game Penn State has played maybe the
entire season. They shut down Indiana's run game. It made
it difficult on him, but Mendoza made some big throws
when he needed to, and namely on.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
That last drive.
Speaker 5 (04:29):
You know that first play of that last drive, by
the way, they were sacked. So they've got eighty seven
yards to go. There was a minute thirty left and
they have got no timeouts, and the guy goes right
down the field.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Big throw after big throw after big throw.
Speaker 5 (04:40):
And every one of them was leveraged properly and inaccurately
in a place is where only his guy could get it. Now, granted,
they've made some incredible catches. The Becker catch was wild Cooper.
I mean, Gus and I would lose in our minds
with that catch at the back of the end zone.
But to your question, yes, Mendoza is a pro. There's
no doubt about it. And for me, it's it's not
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even necessarily about about like, well, where is your stock
this year?
Speaker 1 (05:05):
To me, it's about are you ready? Are you ready?
Speaker 5 (05:08):
Because what you see in the NFL. And I've brought
this up and I bring this up constantly with you.
If you look at the guys that win Super Bowls
on average in the last you know, two and a
half decades, if you go to their college career, they've
all started over thirty games. Well, Mendoza started two years
at cal and now a year at Indiana, so he's
highly experienced. I value that a lot more than even
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just these these few games of tape that Ty Simpson
has played at Alabama. Who doesn't have that body of
work from a start's perspective. Now, that doesn't mean that
Mendoza is definitely going to be better than Ty Simpson.
It means that those two decisions for Mendoza, whether he
wants to come out or not, or and Ty Simpson
are different because of their experience level and how much
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experience they have. I think that the NFL and the
guys that and teams and organizations that are really smart,
really value the guys that have a deep body of work.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
By the way, Dante Moore ugly game in Iowa made
a huge throw up the right sideline the college football
twelve team college football bracket right now, you'd have Oregon
against Notre Dame. How do you view Dante Moore? Now,
they were missing a lot of so like Simpson, Like Simpson,
he needs he needs more time.
Speaker 5 (06:22):
Like if I'm Dante More, if I was advising Dante Moore, hey,
I would say go back to school.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Now.
Speaker 5 (06:28):
What he did against Iowa was fantastic and similar to Mendozo,
wasn't great all day and then he gets into a
two minute situation and he plays his best football. And
by the way, he did that without a lot of receivers.
I think you were about to say that before he
in four of them. He missed four of them, all
of his best wide receivers to tight end to Corey
and Moore, all these guys, and yet he was still
able to orchestrate the drive in a tough environment, tough
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conditions against a very good team and end up winning
the game. Like, there's a lot I love about Dante Moore,
but I do think he needs more time as a quarterback.
But that's a team that's getting better. Their defense is
getting better. They showed up to Iowa and they beat
Iowa in an Iowa game, and that tells me a
lot about the nature of their team, the physicality of
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their defense, their ability to run the football. They did
a really great job in that game because Iowa was
playing really well. It's a tough place to win and
to come up with that win showed me a lot.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
So I think this is interesting. So when the USC's
and the Oregons and UCLA Washington join the Big Ten,
the big take was, oh, it's cold, good luck. Well,
I've seen USC beat Nebraska, I've seen Oregon beat Ohio
State and Eugene and Penn State. I've seen Washington win
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at Maryland, and I've seen these Pac twelve teams go
out to LA and I watched Penn State lose to
UCLA and USC hammer Michigan. Do you think we can
all take a deep breath now? Is that the whole
West Coast team can't compete in the snow. When I
watch these games, I think Ayah was going to lose
in LA this weekend. I think Minnesota's gonna lose to
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Oregon this weekend. I don't I always thought it was overstated.
Do you do you think that whole West Coast team
playing Midwest won't work? I think it's working fine for
West Coast teams well as West Coast is different than
South Beach.
Speaker 5 (08:23):
If you asked me like, hey, Miami, you know, like
Miami is going to be in the cold, whether it's
the Dolphins or the Canes, I'm like, they don't handle
that very well. You know, I don't think USC plays
great on the road, even though they got a win
against Nebraska. College teams don't most college teams, So that's right,
And I'm not.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
I would disagree with you in this.
Speaker 5 (08:45):
I still believe that that this game at its core
is about matchups. And for instance, Illinois was a bad
matchup for USC. Why because they wanted to run the
football right at that defense, and that's and that's one
of the areas of weakness for USC's defense.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
That's what that was a big issue.
Speaker 5 (09:05):
When they played Notre Dame even Michigan, even though they
were able to win the game, Michigan was able to
run the football. Well, well, they're they're welcoming a team,
granted it's at home where they've played better. What do
you think Iowa is gonna do?
Speaker 1 (09:17):
You see? This is a bad matchup for USC. The
Iowa defense is specifically suited to take a team like
USC and frustrate them because they won't be able to
get chunk plays. They've got levels of defense. Tips and
overthrows usually end up in the hands of the defender.
That's how they turn the ball over, create short fields.
And then they're gonna run the absolute crap out of
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the football and they're gonna say, hey, US, can you
stop it? And they're gonna run and then run and
then run and then run some more. And I've got
serious doubts that USC can hold up in a game
like that, serious doubts. I think Iowa wins this one outright.
They're six and a half point dogs. I think Iowa
wins on the West Coast because of matchup. Again, that
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specificity of where Iowa wants to play, where they're strong
and where USC is weak. So I was thinking of this.
I was looking at the college football bracket. Texas and
m can win the SEC. Not play Oklahoma, Ole, Miss Bama,
or Georgia. They play a lot of teams that just
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fired their coach. So I so you're saying.
Speaker 5 (10:24):
Regular season, right, So they would have to play one
of those teams in the champ game or maybe even Texas.
If Texas was able to get into the championship. To
win the SEC, they will have to beat someone very
good that earned their way into that position. Okay, last year,
we watched this playoff and we thought, after we watched it,
maybe Indiana shouldn't have been in.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Oh No, I mean that was a terrible I'm saying,
give me somebody running.
Speaker 5 (10:51):
We got that from the atrocious commentary during the game
and they started throwing that. I guess when I didn't
hear that when Ohio State was drilling Tennis and that
was even a bigger margin. So no, no, no, I
I don't know exactly where you were going at. You
got me all triggered on this. Indiana didn't deserve to
be in last year. I will tell you this though.
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Schedules in general need to be rethought within conferences, So
I will agree with your point that you're trying to
make on the underlying thing, like for instance, for instance,
and for example, I believe that the better teams in
the conference, or the teams that finished high in the
standings one year, should have to play the tougher conference
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schedules the next year, agree in order to drive more parody,
in order to drive more fairness. That's what the NFL does,
and that's what we should do within conference versus leaving
it up to chance. I understand that you've got to
retain some rivalries and there are games that are always
going to be on the schedule, and that's fine. Just
like the NFL, we always play two division games, but
there's those few matchups and they're just little tipping point
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matchups where you're gonna play a first play schedule. In
the NFL, I think we should have our version in
college football of a first play schedule where if you
win the conference like Oregon did last year in the
Big Ten, that you would have to then go and
play a more difficult slate of games in the Big
Ten the next year, and if you finished last, like
whoever finished last this year, I don't know who did,
(12:17):
Northwestern or Rutgers or someone along those lines. You would
get an easier draw and you wouldn't have to go
and beat your head against the wall facing like Indiana
and Ohio State and Michigan and Oregon all in one year.
So your premise, I think is correct.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
Yeah. You know, by the way, that USC Notre Dame game,
everybody shed tears when I suggest that maybe it's not
the greatest thing for USC. If USC beats Iowa this week,
it'd be a good game. I agree with you. I
think it's I like USC close, but it's a good game.
If they did not play Notre Dame this year, USC
didn't play them, they could go to Oregon. If they
were competitive, they'd have a lost to Illinois and Oregon
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they'd make the playoff. Is that Notre Dame game?
Speaker 5 (12:57):
This is the problem within that large playoff. This is
the problem, and it's not tied to a defined path
or automatic berths. You know, when we're in a beauty pageant,
it's going to encourage teams like Notre Dame or USC
or any team to not schedule difficult non conference games.
That's a problem in college football, which, by the way,
I do think that one of the reasons why Texas
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is being ranked so high as they are now by
the Committee is that the Committee is trying to give
them the benefit of the doubt that they went out
and played Ohio State. Totally agree, and they're trying to
not knock them or hold that against them so that
they can encourage others to do the same. You know,
there's been a it's discussed. I don't know how much
traction it's gotten, but Colin, they have discussed at some
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level behind closed doors, having somewhat of a point system
in college football to go along with the Committee and
maybe even overtake the Committee, and it would go as follows, like,
let's just say Texas and Ohio State play this year
and there are both top five teams and now they're
both top ten teams still here late in the November,
to go and play that game, and even if you
went on the road and lost, you would get five
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points in a PowerPoint structure. Meanwhile, if you were to
schedule a game like let's say Texas didn't want to
play Ohio State, they wanted to play like I don't know, ut,
you know, San Antonio or some lower level to you know, Louisiana,
Tech Monroe, whatever it is. Even if they won that
game at home in the non conference, they would get
zero points. So in a point structure type of system,
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as we're trying to compete for the college football playoff,
we would have a point system that rewarded teams for
going and playing tough non conference games versus scheduling a
cupcake in their home stadium. I think that's something interesting.
I would love to vet that out a little bit more,
but that's something that has been talked about in college football.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
All Right, you have Michigan Northwestern at Wrigley this weekend.
Where are you with Michigan right now? The coach, the
quarterbacks super talented. They've got some receivers in the quarterback
I like, but where are we? You know when legends leave.
When Chip Kelly left Oregon, we like Mark Helfridge, the
longer reader was there. It didn't work. It is the
history tells you when a legend leaves, giving the job
(14:59):
to a staff member that stays doesn't work. Remember you
go back to Miami. Wait, I'm sorry, do we Is
it not working for Ohio State? And Ryan Day? Well no, no,
hold on, wait again again?
Speaker 5 (15:13):
Is Ryan Day not the highest percentage winning coach in
the history of college football.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Ryan Day was this hot guy that could have gotten
a head job. In a lot of places. People Ryan
Day was the buzz. He was like Ben Johnson. A
lot of people talking about Ryan Day. NFL teams talked
about Ryan Day, right, like the coordinator? Who's this young kid?
When you give the job to a staff member, generally
(15:38):
when a legend.
Speaker 5 (15:39):
I mean Collins, Sharon Moore is just a staff member.
He was the coordinator of the national champion. You think
he couldn't have got a job. He was the interim
head coach against Penn State in a top five matchup
on the road. He beat Ohio State, as the internet
like do he was the head coach for those games.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
But history says, even in the NFL, to go get
a successful head coach, bam, go get nick.
Speaker 5 (16:01):
How did that work for LSU with Brian Kelly, Well,
that work for Texas A and M with Jimbo Fisher.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
Well, you know, Jimbo. I was never a big Jimbo
guy to begin with, So that wasn't a guy I
would have hired and given a hundred million too. But
I disagree with you.
Speaker 5 (16:19):
I actually look around and I think Penn State is
in a pickle right now because they're trying to create
something out of thin.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
Air, whereas what what has worked so far.
Speaker 5 (16:29):
You've got two guys that were elite level coordinators that
got jobs at places that had had had a success
before them, and infrastructure to continue that sex success. Sorry,
that's Kirby Smart at Georgia and that's Dan Landing at Oregon.
Then you've got the guys that were great head coaches
at a lot of places that won football games, that
(16:50):
can go into someplace and replace and do well.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
That's Kaylin de Boor.
Speaker 5 (16:55):
That was Urban Meyer when he left from from Utah
and went to Florida and then ultimately Ohio State. And
then you have the guys that were promoted from within.
Dabos Sweeney was promoted from within. You've got Lincoln Riley
was promoted from within. You've got Sharon Moore was promoted
from within. You've got Ryan Day was promoted. So like
that that works, And I don't think that you can
(17:18):
just say one doesn't and one does. I personally believe
that Michigan they're the youngest team in the Big Ten
right now. They're seven and two, and they could put
themselves in a position where if they were to beat
Ohio State for the fifth straight time, they would go
to the playoff. So I I don't there's no way
(17:38):
you could categorize this as like not working.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
They're super young and they're really good. No, I asked
the question. I said, I didn't say it wasn't working.
I said, where you're implying though they've been they've been
really inconsistent, like not competitive against USC you know, week
to week. Not quite sure what I get. I think
Underwood's unbelievable. Yeah, that's fair. Listen, I think that's fair.
Speaker 5 (18:05):
And I think that that's part and parcel to a
young team and and a young head coach. I would
be really surprised if this doesn't trend in a really
positive direction from this point moving forward. I mean, they're
gonna beat Northwestern. Maybe Northwestern is a good football team.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
Well they are.
Speaker 5 (18:24):
You're gonna be like, you're gonna be with us? Am
I gonna see you?
Speaker 1 (18:27):
Well, listen, you're gonna be a big new kickoff that
is being negotiated, negotiated.
Speaker 5 (18:32):
Does it have to do with the temperature outside? Actually,
Saturday is gonna be nice, and that's what I that's
what I saw.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
It's supposed to be like sixty two or something like that. Yeah,
it's sixty two here every day. Sometimes there's white stuff
on the ground, but it's still sixty two. Good see anybody,
Great to see you as well. Man, have a good day.
I'm not saying yeah, I'm not saying Michigan is not
gonna work. I'm saying, in my lifetime, generally, go get
a Chris Peterson, Go get to Brian Kelly, go get
a Nick Sabe, and go get somebody that's succeeded. I
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mean people on Lincoln Riley. He won eleven games in
over four years at Oklahoma. He was a successful coach.
You can do it with the Ryan days. But you
know what one Natty's was Urban Meyer at Florida who'd
been a head coach Urban Meyer at Ohio State. Generally
I am for at a top program with all the pressure,
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go get a big dog. Now. I think Brian Kelly
was a weird fit. The southern twang. It just didn't
feel right, and I think he took it for the money.
There are you and over money still at LSU with
Brian Kelly, I think he took it for the paycheck,
and that Okay, I've said one six is the first
number in your age. People take jobs for paychecks. It's
(19:42):
not about how it works going forward, or it's you know, hey,
can I get a vacation place in Naples? You know,
people make those decisions all the time. But I'm not
saying the Michigan thing's not gonna work. But I've watched
a couple of stinkers this year where I'm like, okay,
well the quarterbacks of freshmen. Maybe that's it.
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So I thought it was interesting when Joel Klatt says,
and I've heard this now from two different people, Dante
More at Oregon should stay in college. Great kid. I
think he's ready for the pros. I don't think the
extra year is going to change anything. But you know,
he's a great, humble kid. It's not going to hurt
him to stay in college because he I don't know
if he'd be the number one pick, but I looked
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at the mock draft today. So if you take the
worst six teams in the league, here is the current
NFL draft order. Okay, Tennessee one, New Orleans, two Giants,
three Cleveland, four Jets, five Raiders, six bad teams. Tennessee
and the Giants aren't taking quarterbacks. Okay, New Orleans I
(21:27):
think should Okay, I I think they should. They'd take Mendoza, Big, strong, starts, smart,
can move Mendoza. Indiana's your number one quarterback off the board. Well, Cleveland,
the Jets and the Raiders only new quarterback and if
(21:47):
Dantae Moore is not available, I don't buy the rest
of these guys as coming and start guys I'd go
get mac Jones if you're not watching the Niners right now.
Don't have Brandon Aiyuk, don't have a great offensive line,
don't have Ricky Pierce Piersoll, don't have it. Deebo's gone trade.
Mac Jones ninth best passer, rating second in passing yards,
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so PFF has him as the ninth best quarterback. That's
above Caleb Williams, although Caleb has been the last two
weeks has moved up, So I mean last week thirty
three or thirty nine, I don't care if it's underneath.
He's doing it with backups. Kendrick Bourne is born back
there andzep I swear he's back. So that's my take.
(22:32):
And I don't think San Francisco wants to relinquish mac
Jones because brock pretty has been banged up. But last
year the Seahawks are like, yeah, we're not going to
draft the guy with our top pick. Let's get let's
get Sam Darnold worked out pretty well. Minnesota's like, we'll
let Sam Donald go. We're gonna take the guy we drafted.
How's that working at the Colts are like, no, he
tried drafting guy Anthony Richardson, We're gonna go get a
(22:54):
guy in the league. Daniel Jones. You watch the Colts,
So the Colts of the Seahawks are like, we'll take
guys in the league, Tampa Bay, We'll take Baker Mayfield,
guy in the league that's working out, okay, draft Now,
Mendoza is an a prospect, big, smart, strong. I mean,
you can't watch that last drive against Penn State on
the road. Those are great big boy Sunday throws. But
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as Joel Klatt says, if Dante Moore doesn't come out,
none of these guys, nuss Meyer Simpson, these guys aren't
ready to come into the NFL and start. No way.
I think Dante Moore could if he got the right coach.
He'd flourish if he didn't need struggle. Mendoza, I think
is good enough to overcome some nonsense even if he
joins a You know, New Orleans got a bit of
(23:39):
a mess. But if you're not paying attention to mac Jones,
mac Jones is having an unbelievable you know, I always
thought mac Jones was, after the New England experience, kind
of a bridge guy. No, now I think he's a
franchise guy. I mean when he had Josh McDaniel's pro bowler.
Now Shanahan good B B plus, guy can spin it.
(24:04):
Jmck with the news. No, no, no turns.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
This is the headline news.
Speaker 6 (24:11):
These are troubled times, Colin.
Speaker 7 (24:13):
For Green Bay Packers fans, they are very very upset
with mister Matt Lafleur.
Speaker 6 (24:19):
The fans are outraged.
Speaker 7 (24:20):
Back to back bad home losses where you the offense
just look ghastly. The media asked Lafloor if he felt
like he is coaching for his job. Yes, his job
the rest of the season.
Speaker 8 (24:32):
I'll leave that for everybody else to de side. I'll
just focus on the day to day and trying to
do I feel like you're always coaching for everything in
this league. You know, it's just my mindset. That's always
been that way. You know, you can't ever exhale. You
got to always be pushing. And that's just my mindset.
(24:54):
So and that will be my mindset until they tell
me not to coach anymore.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
Yeah, I don't think he'd be unemployed long. I think
he'd get a job real quick if somebody wanted to
let him do. Listen, they had a bad free agent signing.
They overpaid banks from San Francisco. That's been a bad
free agent signing. The Mikey deal was a good deal.
They are broken offensively. The scripted stuff doesn't work. The
run game doesn't work. They do have I think the
(25:21):
craft injury and the read injury are punitive, like it's
noticeably it hurts. But I think all this talk of
firing Matt Lafleur, I say, who have I compared Matt
Lafluur to. They No, Lincoln Riley.
Speaker 6 (25:36):
Oh, Lincoln Riley Right, Okay, I just.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
Had this conversation over the weekend. Matt Laflour and Lincoln Riley.
You know they're smart. You know they win games. You
know they're great play designers. You know they're on the
right side of the ball in football today. You know
they're great play callers. Although Lafloor gets banged on that.
And by the way, they have a history of elevating
mat Aaron Rodgers got better, McCarthy left, Lafleour came in,
(26:01):
Aaron won MVP, and Lafleur, by the way, Jordan Love
was very good. I think a lot of this is
simply Jordan Love. When you take away his best tight
end and arguably his best receiver, and they can't run
the ball. You're asking him to win games. I think
Mahomes can do that, and Lamar and Josh can do that.
(26:23):
I don't think Jalen Hurts and Jordan Love are that
kind of guy. Suddenly the Eagles can't run. Jalen Hurts
isn't as good. Suddenly the Packers can't run that. Jordan
Love doesn't look as good. The Chargers have no run game,
no offensive line, and they're in a three game winning streak.
Because that's what an elite quarterback does. I think Jordan
Love we've overvalued him. He's probably closer to B plus
(26:46):
than he is A. And that's okay. But the idea
that Matt Laflour can't coach, I don't know.
Speaker 6 (26:54):
Yeah. So a couple things here.
Speaker 7 (26:56):
Number one, the interior of the offensive line of the
Packers is garbage.
Speaker 6 (26:59):
I mean, by the way, their center just.
Speaker 7 (27:00):
Went on ir today and I was reading some stuff,
he may be done for the season. That is terrible news.
They could not block Jalen Carter up the middle. Love
was struggling. He can handle pressure off the edges because
their tackles are good but their interior three are grading
out horribly, including your guy Banks. So if you're looking
to bet this weekend, the Giants do not get pressure
up the middle. They come off the edges. Packers will
(27:21):
be fine. I do wonder this Lafleur fire him stuff.
We have a mutual friend who's in the Midwest and
he was talking. He's like laughing at this time, like
this is goofy Colin. Two years ago, when the Chargers
fired their guy Stay, there was an obvious candidate, Jim Harbaugh.
Last year there was an obvious candidate Vrabel. There's no
(27:42):
obvious candidate this year. And I'm sorry to burst your
Lane Kiffin bubble. People are not firing their head coach
to go get Lane Kiffin. There's no slam dunk coordinator
or college football guy that is like, we gotta fire
our guy and go get him. That's part of the
reason I haven't said, like, let's get rid of Aaron Glenn.
I don't think there's an anyone great on the market.
McCarthy's good. We would agree, they're not.
Speaker 6 (28:03):
They're not bringing McCarthy back.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
To Green Bay, right, So who are you getting if
you fire lafloor Well, Penn States found this out. They
fired James Franklin. It's like because of a losing streak.
It's like, well atally different.
Speaker 6 (28:16):
They kind of had to.
Speaker 7 (28:17):
I mean, he lost the locker room, he lost the booster,
he lost everybody.
Speaker 6 (28:20):
I don't know. I just look around.
Speaker 7 (28:21):
Tell me who's the number one candidate if you have
a coaching opening in the NFL, And if you say
Lane Kiffin.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
We like Ladey. Mike McCarthy is the number one candidate.
Speaker 6 (28:30):
Okay, well he ain't going back to Green Bay.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
That's that's right, that's right.
Speaker 6 (28:33):
So then so what do we doing. Are we firing
him for Jesse Minter of the Chargers?
Speaker 1 (28:36):
We're not doing that.
Speaker 7 (28:37):
Who are you going to get a retread like Nagi
or Vance Joseph Well, just so.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
If you brought it, if you brought in the defensive coach,
he'd get rid of Jeff Hafley, who's been a home
run defensive coordinator.
Speaker 7 (28:47):
Higher So there's just no great offensive guys out there now.
You could say, if you want to get real creative,
you know, I know Alabama and Kaylin de Boor had
some issues at the beginning. You know, the Alabama fans
after like the lost FSU. They were done with him
like that quickly. Kaylen de Boor is freaking good. Are
you watching Alabama? Ye yea sequencing everything about this. Kaylen
(29:10):
de Boor can coach in the pros, No question.
Speaker 6 (29:12):
That's a guy I would consider.
Speaker 7 (29:13):
And obviously Marcus Freedan, Yeah, I don't think Freeman's on
the market. Ryan Day is maybe interesting, but if you
talk to Klatt, there's no way Ryan Day's leaving.
Speaker 6 (29:22):
Like right, I don't know anyways, All right, let's move
on to the next story.
Speaker 7 (29:25):
The Philadelphia Eagles Colin are seven and two Tyler Seahawks
and rams for best record in the NFC ahead of
their matchup with the Lions. Nick Sirianni, how about this stat?
I this is staggering, Nick Sirianni, walk around, guy. Nick
Sirianni is fourth all time among NFL head coaches with
a seven to fourteen win percentage. Yeah, this is a
(29:48):
staggering stat. Guy Chamberlain, whoever that is probably when you
were watching football back in the day. We all know
John Madden, Lombardi, George Allen, Nick Sirianni.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
Well, I think that list is a great example. Outside
of Lombardi, and Madden. Is George Allen a top five
coach and I remember him well. Is Guy Chamberlain. I
don't know who that is. Yeah, So a lot of
it's situational. I mean, when we look at the greatest
coaches of all time, where's Bill Walsh, Yeah, Where's Belichick
(30:21):
and Andy Reid? Yeah. So that's why I was, you know,
these these all time lists, be careful. I think he's
shown to be. Uh, he's a really good fit in Philly.
But I don't think it'd he lost the job. He'd
have a lot of job offers out there. I think
people think he works in Philly with Howie and Jeffrey
Lorie and Jalen Hurts and the roster. I don't think
(30:43):
he's bad. He's better than I thought he would be.
But I think it's a it's a it's a collaborative
effort in Philly.
Speaker 7 (30:49):
Yeah, and uh, you know, it certainly helps to get
Jalen Hurts obviously, who's been a slam dunk. And then
you know, trading for aj Brown, who we're going to
talk about in the next hour Colin just as a tease,
that's what they call it here in the industry. Final
story is the Vikings, and listen, I have strong thoughts
about this JJ McCarthy stuff.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
Colin.
Speaker 6 (31:05):
We got to dig into it here.
Speaker 7 (31:07):
So remember last year Vikings winning every game with Sam Darnold, Right,
But JJ McCarthy, the young guy they drafted and Kevin
O'Connell loves him. You know, McCarthy's ad four starts and
he's got a lot of injuries, and you say he's
injury prone and slight. I saw him running around against
the Ravens and I was getting nervous because he's not
a big dude.
Speaker 6 (31:26):
How about this?
Speaker 7 (31:27):
An NFL analyst says, the Vikings have a game flow problem,
saying JJ is great on the scripted stuff, right, first
drive of the game that you plan all week and
map it out, but falls off.
Speaker 6 (31:38):
A cliff after the first two he does.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
It's not running the atom.
Speaker 6 (31:42):
We've talked about this, right. Here's my thing.
Speaker 7 (31:46):
The man is the youngest starting quarterback in the NFL.
Speaker 6 (31:49):
He's about to have his fifth NFL start. Does it
not seem weird that.
Speaker 7 (31:54):
Everybody's going after JJ McCarthy And is it because of
donald was good last year? Because Colin, you would I've
talked about this for years The way to build an
NFL team is on the rookie quarterback contract Sam Donald
at forty million. Great, sure, but it ended badly last year.
I would rather have JJ McCarthy on the rookie contract
and round out the roster. So I don't understand why
(32:15):
there's so much hate for McCarthy and people keep going
after him.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
Well, I think four starts. I don't think there's hate.
I think there's cynicism. This is not college football, it's
pro And I said on Monday, right wrong. I could
be totally wrong on this. I didn't get it in college.
I don't get it now. I think the best argument
for JJ McCarthy is the argument for Sam Darnold. When
(32:40):
Sam came out of USC, he was twenty one. Okay,
when you're that young, you need really, really good coaches
to start. The difference is JJ McCarthy is super young
and does have that. So I'm going to be less
patient with JJ McCarthy. He had a great college coach
(33:01):
and has a really good NFL coach. Sam Darnold went
from below average college coach to a disaster head coach,
So I think your young argument absolutely legitimate. But the
difference is Sam went from bad to bad. The Vikings
have been well run my entire life. You can go
(33:21):
back to the seventies. They've always been a good franchise.
Kevin O'Connell's web of average and Harbaugh is a great coach.
So JJ's gotten great coaching. And I get this, So
I the the age thing is real, but he got
I mean, honestly, Kevin O'Connell, Justin Jefferson, elite left tackle,
(33:42):
Jordan Addison a division without a great defense before Micah
got to Green Bay, like he should be better than this.
Speaker 6 (33:50):
Sar Darris Alas had some injuries than left tackle.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
But he's a really good left tackle.
Speaker 6 (33:53):
Yeah, he's excellent. I guess I just want.
Speaker 7 (33:56):
I know, patience isn't a thing that we have in
society right now, but can we Is he a sample
size of I don't know, a season or two. No,
I mean people are willing to write off Michael Pennix already. No, No,
he hasn't looked great.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
No.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
I've said with JJ McCarthy, I want us to play
him every snap the rest of the year, every snap.
This is not a bench him. It's like play JJ.
I'm saying. My initial belief is he looks like Michigan
JJ McCarthy that he's kind of being carried. He's not caring,
and that's what I want to see.
Speaker 7 (34:26):
I'll say this. I'll just put it on record. I
was bullish on the Vikings in the off season. I'm
buying JJ McCarthy's stock pennies on the dollar.
Speaker 6 (34:32):
Give it to me.
Speaker 7 (34:33):
I believe this is a potential Pro Bowl quarterback in
a year or two, and maybe all Pro within five years.
I'm really a believer in JJ McCarthy.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
Well, I like your stand.
Speaker 7 (34:42):
I like where you know you're keeping your heels in sometimes.
I mean, you're all in on Caleb. We're going Midwest
on the show now, I mean as well, but find.
Speaker 6 (34:51):
Another Midwest quarterback. I'm not taking Jordan Love all right.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
J Mack with the news, Well.
Speaker 3 (34:56):
That's the news, and thanks for stopping by the herd.
Speaker 1 (34:59):
Lie, No, I did that earlier. I said, it's very difficult.
It's easy to spend somebody else's money. But if you
were a general manager, you were And I put down
the eleven quarterbacks in the NFL twenty five and under,
and I said pick three that you would write a
check for, knowing when you write the check, like if
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you wrote it for Caleb Williams. You can't keep DJ Moore,
Joe Tooney, you can't. Drake May doesn't have a lot
of stars around him. The best players you know, Will Campbell,
Travan Henderson, Kyle Williams. They're all rookies, so you wouldn't
have to make big changes there. But when I put
that list up an hour ago and I said, okay,
you got to pay three of them, Drake May's the
(35:43):
easy one. Of the other ten remaining I would pay today.
I would extend C. J. Stroud and Caleb Williams, and
their passer ratings hover around ninety, which is kind of
like C level quarterback play and I but those are
the three I would do. That's why what everybody bails
(36:03):
on bow Nicks. I'm like, Bo's durable, he never misses,
starts college or pro. He's excellent in college and pro
in the fourth quarter, and he wins a bunch of games.
He won a bunch of Oregon, he wins a bunch
of Denver. I mean, durable win games good in the
fourth You guys, can all you start looking at all
these quarterbacks twenty five and hundred eight of them are
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hurt all the time. Just a thought.
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Speaker 1 (36:57):
There are three great college basketball players this year that
could go number one in most years. BYU has one
of them. Duke, one of the Boozer kids, Carlos Boozer's son.
He's got twins, but one of them's a stud. And
then the Darren Peterson at Kansas. Kansas isn't very good.
That kid looks like Kobe. I mean that kid is
so good. He is magic. He can shoot. Kid at
(37:21):
BYU not I don't know if he's a great perimeter
player yet Peterson, this kid at Kansas, wow. I mean
that kid is lightning quick, pull up, makes tough shots.
I know a coach the coached against him. I've watched
him and he is something else like Darren Peterson at Kansas.
(37:42):
Just go watch him. That's what Kobe looked like at
nineteen years old. I would imagine. Wow. You know, it's
really interesting. The nil in college football has changed two things.
One of them is, you know, Obama doesn't have a
lot of money. Texas Tech has a lot of money.
(38:04):
Oregon has a lot of money. BYU by the way,
they got money they can go buy players. Alabama doesn't
have a lot of money. Ohio State was great before,
they're great now. They have both. But it's interesting. Urban
Meyer was talking about this. You're seeing all these new
schools get considered for the college football playoffs. Just ask
(38:25):
yourself why are they there? Because they can buy good players.
So your history does matter. High school recruiting does matter.
But urban Meyer talked about it last week. Some of
these schools you would have never thought five years ago
they could be top ten teams.
Speaker 4 (38:42):
I think this is interesting.
Speaker 7 (38:43):
Colin.
Speaker 4 (38:44):
We've talked about out with the old Clemson, LSU, Penn State, Florida,
Florida State Wolverines that're kind of out and then in
how about this IU Ole, miss BYU, Texas Tech, Utah Bandy,
Georgia Tech, all with a shot for the college playoff
parody and college football has never been like this.
Speaker 1 (39:00):
Here's the other thing. The nil's done. Some of these
quarterbacks like Leonoris Sellers, who I would have no problem
drafting if I was the Rams late first round and
not planned for two years. He may just stay in college.
He's like twenty. So some of these college quarterbacks. Mendoz's
got to come out. He's too good at Indiana. He's
too good. He's gonna be the first quarterback taken. Dante Moore,
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in my opinion, could come out, but Oregon's got a
lot of money and they may pay him four million
bucks to stay. So the nil's done two things. It
is given some off brand or what you would call
smaller brand college football programs that have rich boosters a
chance to compete and get into the playoff. That's the
(39:45):
first thing. The second thing it's done is some of
these college quarterbacks. And I think this is good for
the kid and good for the NFL and good for college.
It's keeping them in school longer. If Dante Moore stays
in school at Oregon, he'll be the number one pick
next year. So instead of going to it, you know,
and by the way, he'll get in their fifteen starts,
(40:06):
but Mendoza's got to come out. But I've watched all
these college quarterbacks. The only three to me are first
rounders Mendoza, Dante More and the kid at South Carolina,
who I don't think is close to ready to start.
But if you're the Rams, you know, you get your
offensive tackle, you get this kid, you send him for
two years. He gets very interesting. But we went into
the year thinking they were like eight guys a draft.
(40:29):
I think there are two guys I draft early in
the first one late. Everybody else feels second, third round.
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