Colin breaks down what he had right and wrong about the NFL after the weekend of action. Former NFL quarterback Matt Hasselbeck stops by to discuss how the Pittsburgh Steelers have been able to get games done this year, plus the surprising rise of the Jacksonville Jaguars. Colin argues about how the college football playoffs aren't in the business of sending the best teams.
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Speaker 1 (00:26):
Here we go. It's hour two loaded. Good one tonight too.
The forty nine ers still haven't lost a blazing five
pick yet three oho to one. J McK and I
have both had good weekends. Matt Hasselbeck's around the corner.
So yeah, all weekend long, people are complaining about the
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college football playoffs. I can't believe this team got in
and that team got in. Go to March Madness. You
keep telling me that's the greatest sporting event in the world.
Like twenty five teams to get into that thing? Unwatchable?
Bottom line? Do you get the top sixteen college basketball
teams in? Do you get the top sixteen in the
rest of It's filler, That's how I feel about this thing.
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Do you get the top eight teams in? Hey got
four teams that you know, we know Texas probably better
than James Madison. I think we could agree Notre Dames
better than two Lane, but they had their opportunity. Notre
Dame played Texas and Miami couldn't win either. I mean,
the regular season's got to mean something, so I think
the college football playoff. I can't wait to watch the
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next seven games. Here we go, Colin right, Colin wrong?
Where Colin was right. New England was my surprise playoff pick.
Fourth year in a row. My surprise playoff team has
made it twelve and three, tripled their win total, could
still land the number one seed. You know, it's amazing
what they've done offensively from thirty first to six. The
Kyle Williams great play. We talked about him as he
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was a tremendously gifted college player, Stefan Diggs, Henry. It's
a big playoffense and it last year there was none
of that juice. So we got that one right.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Where Colin was wrong.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Mike Tomlin once again secures a winning season. They could
actually win eleven games in Pittsburgh. Now, the game got
a little squirrely in the end, but make no doubt
about it, Pittsburgh was absolutely the better team, holding Detroit
to fifteen rushing yards and listen, are they good enough
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to win a playoff game? I don't know, but they
ran the ball. They haven't done that consistently in years.
Aaron has been tremendous. He gets him out of trouble,
no negative plays in the end.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
I was wrong where Colin was right.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
Slinging Sammy d leads his division, Seattle leads the NFL
in point differential. What's interesting with sam He's completing sixty
seven percent of his throws. That's a career high. But
he's also near the top in yards per attempt, so
it's no dinking dunk. He's throwing the ball down the field.
Twenty four total touchdowns the last two years. He has
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more passing touchdowns than Josh Allen, so first quarterback ever.
Back to back seasons, two different teams to win twelve games.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Right on Sammy, Where Colin was wrong.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
I love Trevor Lawrence for years, but all the turnovers
I surrendered. They were five and four after losing the Texans,
I'm like, I'm done, and then they got in a heater.
Liam Cohen deserves a ton of credit. I didn't even
have him in my hurt hierarchy until last week. But
they've just got a lot of good players, you know
what I mean. It's like Parker Washington, where'd he come from?
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They could end up thirteen and four. Trevor Lawrence has
kind of gotten out of being lured into bad interceptions.
They deserve all the credit in the world. Just the
minute I gave up on Trevor Lawrence, he pivoted where
Colin was right New York Jet. Now, excuse me, New
York Giant fans, Colin, you're crazy thinking we should draft
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Fernando Mendoza. Yeah, Jackson Dart had one completion in the
first half. His coaching staff was terrified to let him
throw the ball. I got nothing against Jackson dark but
if you notice the more we see of him last
couple of starts, it's got a sixty eight passer rating. Well,
they don't have this, they don't have that. Boy. I mean,
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I think Jackson Dart been a pleasant surprise. I like him.
But the fact that you wouldn't consider Mendoza with a
number one pick, wouldn't consider it. You're the New York Giants,
You've been unwatchable for a decade. You got to consider.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Everything where Colin was wrong.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
The Carolina Panthers start of the season one in three.
I'm like, come on, this is a bush League operation.
But Dan Morgan, former player, GM nice draft, Dave Kanalis
steadied the ship. You know, I mean Bryce Young extension,
he moves, he's got his star receiver one hundred and
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two passer rating, a couple of tunnies, no picks. So again,
do we wish he was bigger and had a bigger arm. Probably,
But when I watch Carolina, I'm like, I just watched
Bryce Young outplay Baker Mayfield. That's impressive. Where Colin was right,
Kaylen de Boor, don't listen to the trolls. He is
a top five head coach to go into Norman, fall
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behind seventeen to nothing and then take the game over.
He's not going to be Saban. First of all, the
SEC now has Texas schools, it's deeper, the Big ten's better,
and the money runs everything. Now you can't stack rosters
like Nick Saban could do. Even Kirby smart Georgia had
last two years. Doesn't look like Georgia. They're just a
really good team. So don't listen to anybody. Kaylin de
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Boor off of Nick Saban. That's as good as you
can do as an athletic director. That's as good as
you can do. Where Colin was right, Miami Hurricanes kept saying, folks,
watch this defense all year long. I said, I don't
buy in Texas A and m I said, all week
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Miami's going to go in there. I don't want to
hear that Mario crystal Ball. You don't trust him. Miami
is going to control this football game. Their defense is
fast and physical and Mario crystal Ball and their nil
money they got dudes. I mean you just you watch
that defense they got dudes. Now, can they beat Ohio State?
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I'm not sure if anybody can, but that defense will
keep them in every game they play. So for all
the Miami Hurricane doubters, sorry, they're legit. That defense as
good as anything, maybe even Ohio State's defense. Colin right
wrong on a Monday, and here's Matt Hasselback eighteen years
in the NFL joining US Live.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
So you know, it's.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
A lot of teams feel like, okay, there they are
a regular season story. I'm not sure if it translates
when you watched New England. I don't think i'd be
shocked if they were one and done. But do you
think what they do translates to January in the postseason.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
Yeah, one hundred percent. They just got to stay healthy.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
Listen, this is a team that no one even expected
to be in the playoffs this year. I think maybe
you're the only guy, actually you called it, but not
even Mike Vrabel the way they talked about it. They
traded away all their captains like they were just say,
we're building something for success down the road. So the
success of Drake May in this offense has been incredible.
They use free agency mostly to fix the defense, and
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the defense really hasn't been what it's been because Milton
Williams has been out, Spallane's been out. But no, I
think what the big question mark was can we protect
Drake May can Drake May be Drake Drake May May
And he's been that, you know, even without his left
tackle out, without his left tackle in there, and on
the third string tackle yesterday. So no, this this team
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is I think built for I think they're one of
the best teams in the AFC, and I do believe
the coaching matters and Mike Rabel and Josh McDaniels and
those guys are proven.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
It one of my favorite And I said, I'm really
impressed with Aaron. And you could say, well, what about
green Bay? Well Farruning, green Bay, Jordan love One, Malik
Willis looked great Aaron, Like, Green Bay does quarterback right,
like you know, it's no chaos. They always have good
old lines. Obviously, he's a great Hall of Fame talent.
But Pittsburgh was offensive, quicksand and one of my favorite
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stats is Aaron is letting go of the ball faster
than any quarterback in the league, like you know, like,
and I don't blame him, but with this offense, it
kind of works. It's a size offense. It's not twitchy,
it's not quick, it's just gigantic men. I mean I
watch Aaron, I'm like, this is exactly what this offense
should have. They're not good enough to overcome negative plays.
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They don't run it consistently. I'm kind of blown away
by what Aaron's done because this offense for seven years, Matt,
they couldn't get anything right. What do you make of
what he's done?
Speaker 4 (09:02):
Well, they haven't been very consistent this year either, you know,
they've been like, oh, we're going to be an empty
team and then we're going to try to run.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
And we can. But yesterday I thought was the start
of what they hoped to be.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
And you hear Mike Tomlin talk about December football, what
you got to do to win at this time of year.
You got to be able to run the ball, and
you got to be able to stop the run. They
ran for almost two hundred yards yesterday against Detroit, and
then they shut Detroit's run game down, completely shut it down.
So I think this is exactly what I've been sort
of begging for from Aaron Rodgers and the Steelers Arthur Smith.
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Aaron Rodgers sees it all. He's a historian of the game.
There's nothing the defense can do. Let him be the maestro,
be the conductor of the orchestra, the point guard.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
He doesn't need to be Michael Jordan.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
He can just get us into the perfect play, give
us explosive runs, throw a perfect back shoulder throw to
a guy like DK. But the question is now, and
maybe this actually helps him in a way. If DK
is suspended, are they going to lean in more to
that run game? Andrew Aaron Rodgers getting us into audibles
in the perfect run looks with thirteen personnel, three tight ends,
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all that kind of stuff. That's what I think they
need to do anyway, and then they'll get DK back.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
And then you leave him one on one. We got
Aaron Rodgers, the Hall of Fame thrower.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
You know there used to be it's called there's a
tournament Baseball A bad ball hitter. I think it was.
Vlad Guerrero was known. Vlad Guerrero would hit pitches you
shouldn't even swing at off your.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
No batting gloves too, which is hard to do.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
Colin, I watched Caleb. The layups I'm not sure about,
but some of the plays he makes, I'm like, what,
it's just different. It's hard for me to find a prototype.
You tell me what you see.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
Listen this The last two weeks have been great.
Speaker 5 (10:48):
You know.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
He out dueled Door Sanders against Cleveland, against Malik Willis.
He clearly was the guy at the moment of truth,
when the game is on the line, when your best
is required, he delivered absolute. He makes the hard things
look easy. He makes the easy things look hard, which
is great. If you're a coach, you say, hey, I
can coach you into the easy stuff. You just got
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to trust me, and you got to do all the
little things that you probably don't think matter. But I'm
telling you because I'm a coach and I'm older and wiser,
they matter. And that's what your job is as a coach,
because he has this stuff that you can't coach. And
you know, some of the other stuff I think will
come with experience, the stuff at the podium. When there's
an interception, don't say we through an interception. And when
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there's a great play, don't say, oh, I've played in
a lot of big games. I've brought us back and
come back like those are little things that maybe people
don't think matter, but in the long haul, they do.
And that's why I think it does show up on
the field. But to me, he put this team on
his back and critical moments. It was a struggle, bust
of a game, a very windy situation, rivalry.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
Game, and he had two incredible plays.
Speaker 4 (11:51):
And Ben Johnson again, whether it's special teams or offensive
explosive plays or defense on sidekick, this is a guy
that has his team, has the whole city believe in
and they believe they I think a lot of people
believe that they've got their quarterback, and for sure he
is quieting a lot of the doubters.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
You know. It's interesting And I remember Andy Reid came
on this show one time and talked about this. I said,
it's like being a great director. When you have a
talented quarterback. You want to let them do their thing
and add lib, but you have to have an identity.
This is what the movie is. Okay, here's the movie.
I'm going to let you do your thing. And I
kind of feel like that with Ben Johnson, Like it's like, hey, listen, man,
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I'm not going to overcoach you. I don't know, I
just I kind of think in a weird way, it's
a little tougher than coaching sometimes a limited quarterback obviously
a capable guy, but Caleb can do stuff like you
can't get in the way of it. Right. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
No, I mean I think it's exciting for a guy
like Ben Johnson because he was coaching Jared Goff who
does everything right but doesn't have the mobility and escapability
to make a bad play call look great. And I
think that's one thing kay can do. You mentioned Andy Reid.
Andy Reid was my quarterback coach my first year. He
coached Brett farv there was. It was almost harder because
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if you turned on Brett Favre's mistake reel, it would
look very similar to his touchdown reel, you know, And
so like how do you coach through that? And it's
a little bit like being the trainer of an elite
race horse. There's not just one way to do it.
You kind of got to get to know the horse,
and you got to kind of like, you know, understand
the greatness in that player, and you don't want to
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steal the great plays. And I think like what I saw,
you know, in my time in Green Bay, I saw
Mike Holingrind was sort of the bad cop, like, hey,
no more cut it.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
Out or we're going to put your backup in.
Speaker 4 (13:42):
And then Andy Reid was kind of like, Okay, I'm
the good cop.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
Here's how we're going to do it.
Speaker 4 (13:47):
And he came up with parameters for success, and he
made the quarterback in that situation feel like he was
still cutting it loose, playing free, and yet at the
same time accomplishing the goal of the team, which was
consistent play, never ever ever missing an open guy, never
being the reason that a play wasn't successful. Maybe doing
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letting the offense work for you, some of those things.
If you can put all that together, you can have
an MVP quarterback.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
You know, I was saying about the Lions before the season,
I said, when you lose Ben Johnson, Like we all
know head coaches matter, I don't think we understand how
much coordinators matter. Like Detroit doesn't look like the same team.
Go back to your career, and I think, you know,
we always think it's just play calling, and I'm like,
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it can't just be play calling. It's got to be
played design, play calling, timing. Like I watched Detroit. They
don't feel the same now, some of its offensive line
regression on the interior, but they got a lot of talent,
and it doesn't even it doesn't smell look the same,
or they're a bad third down team. In your career,
what does a great OC provide then a solid one
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doesn't identity?
Speaker 4 (15:02):
I mean he doesn't even need to be in the room.
You could ask a question and everybody in the room.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
Would say, here's the answer. We all know, like we.
Speaker 4 (15:09):
Know exactly how our coach would answer this situation. So
when you get new people, just like in any workplace,
you get a new supervisor boss, like, you're not really
sure what that person's all about. And they're learning you too,
they're learning their leadership style and what they can trust
you with, and so some of those things. You know,
if you look back on Detroit season, it could be, hey,
what do we want to do on fourth down? I mean, really,
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all you got to look at is Dan Campbell took
over play calling halfway through the year and said, okay, no, no,
this is what I'm looking for. And then you look
at the success that Ben Johnson is having in Chicago
and you can't say, like, oh, they can't miss that guy.
The dude is special, Like he is legitimate as a
head coach. So you take him out of the organization,
there's going to be some growing pains. I do think
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this is going to be a year though, where the
Detroit Lions have to look in the mirror and kind
of reevaluate all that they want to be, whether it's
what they want to be a play caller, how often
they want to go forward on fourth down? Because they're
right there of being in the playoffs. But unfortunately, it
looks like they're not going to be in the playoffs
this year because they didn't get it right this year.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
You know, we were talking about this is that for
years I loved I saw him in high school, I
loved him in college, Trevor Lawrence. And then again you
start get to another coach, and then they're five and four,
they lose to the Texans, and I'm like, it's just
not going to work. He gets lured into bad picks.
And yet, and by the way, he's totally chill, and
Liam Cohen is wildly intense, and You're like, this is combustible,
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this is it. But yet I'm watching Ben and Caleb work,
and I'm watching intense Liam Cohen and chill Southern guy
Trevor Lawrence work, and I wonder if that's why it works,
is that they're really different people. What do you make
of this last two months for Trevor Lawrence.
Speaker 4 (16:51):
Yeah, it's been incredible, And I'm one hundred percent in
agreement in terms of the different personality from play caller
to head coach. I mean, I think they work together
that way. Trevor's a guy that was taking a lot
of heat.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
And a lot of hate and he, you know, gave
up a big lead.
Speaker 4 (17:05):
I think it was against Houston and everyone's like, oh,
this is a you know, same old Jags. Some people
left them off their Super Bowl bubble list. I'm not
going to name names, but you know, this is a
team that's playing really good football. And to think that
this team without guys like Travis Hunter, went from sunny,
humid my you know, down in Jacksonville, down in Florida,
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all the way up to loud, cold Denver on the
road and made it look like they said, hey, we
just belong here. They didn't just win this game. They
had Denver waving the white flag. I mean they literally
waved the white flag and said, you know, it's a
two score game.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
We got a short week. We're looking forward to our
next opponent.
Speaker 4 (17:41):
While the game was still going on, like no one
thought that Liam Cohen and his duval they were going
to come in and do that that fixed Trevor Lawrence.
And that's exactly what they've done. When I look at
Trevor Lawrence, I see him directing the pass protection upfront
with such confidence, getting the right hat on the right hat,
which is giving him good protection. And he's kind of
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walking into and living into his potential that everyone's kind
of been waiting for. This is a dangerous team. And
I know they're not a big market team. We've talked
about that, but this is a team to look out for.
They are They're one of the best teams in the AFC.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
I said. One of the stories of the year is
that the Chargers, I think lead the NFL in time
of possession. They're unbelievable on third down and they have
backups everywhere in the old line and they were on
a third string running back. If they were last in
time of possession, you'd be like, well, I totally understand
it there, and yet they're at the top. I don't
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know how to explain it. I didn't even like the
receiving core in camp, and now I love it. Is
that the Harbaugh effect, the Herbert effect, because they should
not be eleven and four when I look at all
their injuries, Like that should not be an eleven and
four team.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
Yeah, you nailed it, Harbaugh Herbert, Like, that's it.
Speaker 4 (18:56):
The grittiness, the toughness your quarterback has literally the year
as surgery comes back and plays in the game. He's
got like one hand, he's going to the ground, can't
even break.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
His fall, and he just plays gritty. He's bloody.
Speaker 4 (19:07):
He doesn't want to even do an postgame interview. He
wants to talk to his teammates like he's just a
football guy. And I think for a long time people
thought of the Chargers is kind of like, ah, they're
a finesse team. They got the cute uniforms. Like, no,
this is a physical football team. And Harbaugh has bought
that to the group.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
And I also think.
Speaker 4 (19:24):
Like doing it with this offensive line, like you mentioned,
I was watching him play in this last game. Literally
the offensive lineman whifts so bad. The d lineman stopped
and he thought that was such a bad block. I
think this is a screen. And he stopped and looked
around like, oh, shoot, no, that was your best effort
trying to block me. And here's Herbert like eyes downfield
just like throws a great crossing round.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
It was like, that's how bad it is right now
for them.
Speaker 4 (19:47):
So to win on time possession, to have your quarterback
healthy enough to play and play gritty the way he
is in the playoffs, with the group that they have,
I mean, get the coach right, quarterback right, you got
a chance, ye.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Matt Hasselbeck on a Monday, it is a you know,
it's funny, I was saying the depth of quarterback We're
not gonna have Mahomes, Burrow and maybe Lamar Jackson, and
yet the quality of quarterback play. I get Purty and
Donald and Stafford and Alan and Herbert and Stroud and Nicks,
and I mean, maybe it's the seven on seven camps,
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but the fact that we can have three legends not
being in the playoff. And I'm like, if I get
this Trevor Lawrence, this Brock Purty, this Sam Donald, I mean,
you know, you know the Seahawks better than anybody. The
fact that Donald is gonna win. He's won twelve games
with a different team when you watched him Thursday night,
and you know Seattle as well as any analyst out there.
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I love the fact that after the game, Mike McDonald's like, yeah,
you guys worry about that stuff. This is what he does.
We're aggressive, we take big swings. We don't care about
the stuff you guys care about.
Speaker 4 (20:55):
I love that, Hey, in game, in game, everybody jumped
off the Sam Donald bandwagon during the game, and then
by the end of the game they were all back on.
And in the Minnesota Vikings and their fans, they've probably
never jumped off it. But no, it's been impressive that
whole division. Darnold Stafford and I would even put the
forty nine ers in that group. That's those three teams
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right there. They've gotten great quarterback play all season long
and they could stand up to anybody. And that's why
all three of those teams are still in play for
the one seed in the NFC. And in this new age,
that's the only bye week. And you know it's not
like two you just get one. One team gets a
bye week now, So that'll be a great one to
watch at the end.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
Matt, Great seeing you on a Monday as always. See
ye all right, Yeah, you know it's funny about the
football so strange. Like if I was Seattle and I
was that young, I would not want to buy week
bone Knicks. I would not want to buy week like.
There are teams that I look at, like Pittsburgh that
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would be a great team to get a bye week.
You got a forty two year old quarterback, you've got
some you know, long in the tooth defenders. Pittsburgh, they're
not gonna get it. But if Pittsburgh could get a
bye week, that would be great for Pittsburgh, San Francisco.
By the way, Kyle Shanahan gets an extra week. With
all those offensive weapons, they're a little there. Was feel
like they're close to being beat up. I would love
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that Philadelphia has had o line injuries. Philadelphia could use
a bye week. But a lot of these teams like,
I'm Jacksonville, I don't want to buy week. I want
to play. I'm Jacksonville. This room, this organization is literally
coming flying downhill. I don't want to buy week. Seattle
young team plays with a lot of juice. I don't
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want any bye week for them. Rams are a little
hit mess. Give Stafford a little time. Feel a little better,
Davonte the hamstring. But it's a lot of times you'll
get buys as a huge advantage. That's a coin flip
to me. I don't think it's that big of advantage
in football unless you're a really old team.
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Speaker 6 (23:51):
Con let's start with that Sunday night football thriller. I
had the Ravens. I was feeling good up eleven with
about eleven minutes left and an absolute choke job. Lamar
Jackson is the big story this morning. He took a
knee in the back, and it looks like after a
total oll shot, you're supposed to be able to go
back in. He couldn't even play after getting the shot,
and he said it to the media last night. He
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took the shot, still couldn't go back in. I don't
know what his status is for next week. Here's Lamar
talking about how desponded he was after the loss.
Speaker 9 (24:24):
Yes, bro, I can't.
Speaker 8 (24:25):
I can't control it after like He'm on the ground,
like I'm done. I gave myself far as I got
need in the back. Well yeah, for the most part,
you can say that because he's it and then we
find for turns and made the playoffs. I can't finish
the game on.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
My guys.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
In law to say, man, that guy cares. He really does.
But this hits been in one of those years like
a JJ McCarthy where he's just had several injuries. They
showed it last night in the broadcast. He can't stay healthy.
And the sport is it's pretty young, the league's never
been younger, and he's taking over the court. I remember
when he broke into the league. The first two years,
you're like, dude, you got to learn to slide. You're
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taking too many shots. This stuff is punitive. It adds
up unless you're as big as like Cam or Josh
Allen like it it. I remember justin Herbert's first two years,
you're like, dude, do not put your shoulder down with
a linebacker get out of bounds fast. He's just it
feels like he's just falling apart.
Speaker 6 (25:22):
I don't think you're wrong, Colin. At to be Early
in the show, remember I said, I think it's over
for this Ravens run. That they've had the chief, same deal,
the coach and the quarterback have been together forever. It's
been great. It's over. You look at this roster other
than Kyle Hamilton. You tell me who won that defense?
Does anything? Why like pockets all night?
Speaker 1 (25:42):
I thought Drake May was good with pressure. I always
trust Baltimore to get it right.
Speaker 6 (25:46):
I listen, it's a tall order.
Speaker 4 (25:48):
Listen.
Speaker 6 (25:48):
AZZI knew some him in that they had a great run. Klein,
Let's be real. This John Harbaugh situation is percolating. I
know some Ravens fans. They are passionate. They go to
all the games, or with the not that the boosters, whatever,
whatever you want to call them. These people are upset
with Harball. They want him out. Colin, How does Dereck
Henry have a touchdown run to put you up eleven
and never touch the ball again in the fourth quarter
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you didn't get a touch Why.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Does Dereck Henry keep fumbling in big spot.
Speaker 6 (26:14):
Well he's getting old. And Lamar Jackson just looked it
up to his twenty nine and about what two weeks here. Listen, man,
this is going to be a big rebuild. The offensive
line a great Ronnie Stanley's just always hurt, Colin. Everybody
has a good run and they paid Lamar. I don't
see a path. What would you say the odds are
right now that John Harbaugh is the Michigan coach next
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year versus staying in Baltimore.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
Zero he will be the coach of the Ravens next year.
Speaker 6 (26:41):
I would say likely, But I don't think zero, Colin.
I'm just telling you, when.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
You go from the best owner maybe in sports, to Michigan,
which is.
Speaker 6 (26:51):
What it's like the team, what if it's not his call.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
They don't fire people like that, they don't. This is
a really huge parting of the way.
Speaker 6 (27:00):
What did Gwyneth Paltrow call it an unconscious uncoupling? I mean, listen,
there is some these Ravens fans are not happy Colin.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
The Severn sideways, they're fan, they're fans.
Speaker 6 (27:12):
Aaron Rodgers is a fifty seven year old fossil and
he's gonna be leading the Steelers to the playoffs. If
the Steelers win, it's over Ravens no playoffs.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Well, I mean it's not like they were terrible. Their
quarterback got hurt. Baltimore to me's not done hurt.
Speaker 6 (27:26):
Wait wait, how come Joe Burrow's glass Joe and Lamar
is well, he got hurt. I mean I'd like to see,
maybe for tomorrow, we'll get you some numbers how many
games have been missed by the star quarterbacks Lamar versus Burrow.
Because it's probably close. I think Burrow's got it buy
a few.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
But yeah, I mean we were on this for years. Like,
Lamar took some shots, and he's not a thick guy,
so I didn't love that part. I might take his.
He'll have an off season. Lamar's gonna come back fast
and healthy. They're gonna hit on three or four draft picks.
They'll be fucked.
Speaker 6 (27:58):
I love the optimism you got. Well, I mean somebody
needs to be positive.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
I mean they've they've been a great organization. If you
if I have trust your owner, your GM, your coach,
your quarterback, to me, they've got a's across the board.
You have dips like Kansas City they'll rebuild. I think
it's more of a rebuild than a retool. But Kansas
City would be good next year. They may not be great,
but they'll get it around. I just I trust smart
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people who have a history of fixing stuff to once
again fixed stuff.
Speaker 6 (28:27):
Double digit wins next year more likely Ravens are Chiefs.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
Ravens weaker division, weaker division.
Speaker 6 (28:34):
I see, yes, good call, all right. Next story, another
quarterback injury, Colin. This one stinks Josh Allen. I'm sure
you saw this play in real time. He's trying to
avoid Miles Garrett and Mason Graham. He's like, oh, oh,
what's going on? And he turns his ankle, goes down.
Something happened. It was clear when he got up, Josh
Allen was not one hundred percent. They took X rays
at halftime. He finished the game, but he did not
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look good at all. Nope, A lot of people, oh,
Josh can't win the end.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
And how about the offense. When he came back.
Speaker 6 (29:01):
The second half, they did nothing. Now, James coput nuclear
first half, thank you to my fantasy team, but he
did nothing second half. They held on in that game.
Colin Josh Allen twelve of nineteen for a Bucks thirty.
Here's McDermott on the status of his quarterback.
Speaker 5 (29:17):
Josh isn't one to lead on if he is. He's
so he's so tough, so competitive, so you know, it's
hard to tell what's really going on inside of that
heartbeat of his you know, he's so. He just loves
being out there with his teammates. So it looked like
he threw the ball, you know well, And but outside
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of that, I don't. I don't have a great feel
for where he's at right now.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
They've been very good. Brandon Bean's very much a cap guy.
They've been very good with a cap. They need to
hit on some draft picks. I mean, I'm watching that
game when Josh Allen's not one hundred percent, Cleveland's going
toe to toe.
Speaker 6 (29:56):
Keon Coleman another healthy scratch. The kid out of Michigan State.
We knew he was a question mark. Lenished the season
of Florida State. Yeah, he might have started at Michigan State.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (30:06):
Oh, he was a hooper, but he looks like a failure. Colin.
Here's the thing, Listen, I love football. I cannot deal
with these star quarterbacks going down. It just concerns me.
I mean Christmas Day, we got three third stringers. I
don't want to see Aluticon or whatever his name is
on the Chiefs in the playoffs. Well, we need Josh
Allen healthy. Man, No, Josh'll be fine. But you know
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we remember just think of the quarterbacks that are making it.
We're gonna get potentially a Bryce Young and Aaron Rodgers,
a Darnold. We have redemption stories.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
We're gonna have Old Stafford, We're gonna have young bo Nicks.
I think the quarterback, all the quarterbacks I want to
watch almost all of them are there. Joe Burrow, we've
stud it for years. He's having to carry a less
than ideal ownership situation. And Mahomes had a rare down year.
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I think it shows and illustrates the depth of quarterback
talent in this league. I mean, I want to watch
Party in the playoffs. I want to watch Darnold in
the playoffs. I want to watch Jordan Love in the playoffs.
I can't wait to watch Drake May and Caleb in
the playoffs.
Speaker 6 (31:09):
Stop, did you say brock perty you want to watch
him in the playoffs? Okay, look at that he likes Purty.
I would, I would quite. This is a good discussion
because Colin this is how bad the quarterback depth is.
The Colts needed somebody, so they called Philip Rivers. Philip Rivers,
who's been on a sofa for five.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
Years and it was great television.
Speaker 6 (31:29):
Okay, So who are the chiefs gonna call? Because I
don't want to see this aluticun guy on Christmas Dale
on my TV throwing at Travis Kelce.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
Well, then it's Christmas. Wrap some presents and don't watch.
Speaker 6 (31:38):
Can we get Ben Roethlisberger?
Speaker 9 (31:39):
Is he?
Speaker 6 (31:40):
Is he taping a podcast that day?
Speaker 1 (31:41):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (31:42):
I mean I need to see I need stars and
I Josh Allen please stay ny.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
Plenty of stars.
Speaker 6 (31:47):
All right, final story call. Let's go to the Niners.
They got a big one tonight against the Colts. I
think this is for you. Who do you have in
this for Blazon five?
Speaker 1 (31:55):
I have the Niners because it's indoors and there won't
be any clouds, So I like him.
Speaker 6 (32:00):
No rain, Yes for brock Perdy. Here he is Purty
QB one talking about all the things going on in
tonight's game against the Colts.
Speaker 9 (32:09):
Obviously it's nice but I mean, we really do have
to take you one day at a time because if
we don't obviously take care of business this week, then
none of that matters. So for us, it's how can
we continue to get better just even this week at practice?
Handle business on Monday, and they make that everything right now.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
So that's where we have to be. Maybe the best
coaching job of Shanahan his career. Salah a lot of
smoking mirrors defensively, but the offense. I will say this,
that offense is humming they and when Perty's move, and
I thought last week was the first week all year
that Brock moved like Brock can move. Christian mccaffert, Trent Williams,
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by the way, still very good at left tackle, still elite.
So when when broadcasts time and he's healthy, it's a
fun offense. Jennings and they don't need Brandon, I you,
they don't need Debo. Listen if you go look at
Jimmy Garoppolo, Mac Jones, Brock Purty, if they're healthy and
Shannan's coaching them, it's fun to watch.
Speaker 6 (33:09):
Over under one and a half Dougies tonight for Brock,
Purdy and the Niners under college can let me just
turn back to clock before we were working together or
I really knew you. You had one of the great
takes of all time about John Wall doing the Dougie
before his first by a game. Do you remember that?
Speaker 1 (33:25):
Yeah, But the difference is John Wall had never played
an NBA game. Brock Purty has earned the right to
have fun.
Speaker 6 (33:30):
Yeah, he's dancing on the sidelines.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
They love it.
Speaker 6 (33:32):
Listen, the King loves Purty.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
They love him. And the truth is Brock has delivered
a lot of big wins for the organization. He's not
a veteran in the NFL, but I mean he's substantial.
He has a real resume, and he has earned the
right to have some fun.
Speaker 6 (33:47):
That doesn't look a couple injury notes. DeForest Buckner back
gets a huge get back for the Colts on the
defensive line. However, no Sauce Gardner, no Charvarius Ward.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
They're back in trouble.
Speaker 6 (33:57):
Oh yeah, could be a big Juwan Jetting game. Colin,
you and I both on the Niners today.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
Yep. Jmck with a news.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
The herd line news, I mean the AFC, the AFC
quarterbacks Nick's May, Lawrence Rogers, Herbert Alan Stroud. That's star Power,
NFC Darnold, Caleb Hurts, Bryce Young, Stafford Purty in Love.
So that show, I mean, and we're missing some stars,
but there's there's plenty of leading men for these movies.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
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Speaker 6 (34:34):
On FS one. It's the latest chapter in the Bragging
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Speaker 1 (34:46):
Yeah, I noticed, you know, I noticed all weekend long
people were complaining about Tulane and James Madison in the playoffs.
So I just looked this up. Y'all tell me how
you love March madness. You love March madness. Let me
give you an example of teams that make it into
March Madness. Not one or two, Mount Saint Mary's, SIU, Edwardsville,
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Grand Canyon, Lipscom, Norfolk, State, Bryant and high Point. They
sound like accommodation of craft beers and national parks. What
are those schools? They all got boat raced. I mean,
you got a couple of college football teams. You're not
really happy therein folks, Only four of the thirty two
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four of the thirty two first round games in March
Madness were decided by fewer than seven points. It's nothing
but blowouts. Well, there's sixty eight teams and twenty five blowouts.
You can't live with two. Really, you can't live with
a couple of lobsided football games. Then you can't tell
me you like college football because there's thirty a weekend.
(35:54):
I mean, go look at I mean, some of these
schools like Alabama play Panera bread. I mean, give me
a break that, you know. So whenever I hear college
football fans, all I know is the eight best teams
in the country starting this week. Their plan. Whe do
the games start? By the way, they got this long layoff?
(36:18):
Too long? But the eight teams and the final seven
games are gonna be great. Who cares if there's a
couple of choppy games. March Madness has been living off this.
Oh my god, Cinderella. Cinderella never wins. You can sell
certain things to people and they keep buying it. Cinderella
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doesn't win, and by the way, you don't need nine
protein bars a day. God, if I have to go
see another guy with his shirt off, sell me protein bars.
You don't need that much protein. You get all your
vitamins and a healthy hamburger. Next round games are next Wednesday,
New Year's Eve, so that gonna be great, all right.
The other thing is everybody's gi I can hear Jmax
(36:59):
during the is he the worst quarterback potentially in the
AFC playoffs? First of all, there's no indignity having like
an eleven game winning streak snapped to red hot Jacksonville.
Jacksonville has been bad forever, so they've got good draft picks.
They got all sorts of players Denver's twelve and three
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in a really good division of coaching. They still give
me the number one seed and lousy bon Knicks engineered
four hundred and forty five yards of offense and six
point eight yards of play. Bon Nix is fine. Now
the defense got worked. But that's okay too, because you
know I said this last week on the air, Jay
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Mack is my witness. I said, keep your eye on Jacksonville. Here.
It just felt like Denver had been in so many big, close,
emotional games winning all of them. I'm like, you know,
Jacksonville doesn't sound big. I mean even Sean Payton talking
about the market size. So this is not college football.
The Rams lost to Carolina got worked. The Patriots lost
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to the Raiders, the Bills lost to Atlanta. It is
really hard in this league to go on winning streaks.
I mean, the Texans yesterday, we're struggling with the best
defense in the league. They were trying to shut down
Gino and the Raiders. So you know, you don't get
an equal effort every Sunday. We know that in college,
but it's true in pro football. Here's bo nicks off
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the loss.
Speaker 10 (38:29):
We got hitting the mouse today and they played a
good game, and you know we let it get away.
But you'd rather have it hit you now than the
first round the playoffs. And you know, weren't called a
wake up call because we were playing well. It's just
one of those that'll reset you and put you back
and get you back to you know, you know where
you need to be, you know, put you in a
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good mindset.
Speaker 1 (38:50):
If you'll let it, yeah, they'll be fine. The other
thing is we've talked about this kind of ad nauseum
on the show before is there's never been more smart
offensive coaches. And what it's creating. It's creating these second
careers for Sam Darnold who just needed the right coach
or coaches, this second career for Baker Mayfield. Well have
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you noticed this year Baker's not playing very well. He
lost he lost Liam Cohen, and Liam Cohen is now
the head coach of the Jaguars and he's really good.
And that's what I'm saying is you start looking at
some of these offensive coaches. I love Matt Stafford. If
Matt Stafford had a defensive coach, a defensive culture, he
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not putting up forty touchdowns five picks. I think a
lot of the Trevor Lawrence Story's always been a talented kid.
He was a like number one high school quarterback. It
took him a long time, many many years. But eventually,
if you're talented, you'll get the right boss. If you're
a great actor, you'll eventually, you know, you hear all
these stories. Everybody thinks Matt Damon was an overnight success.
(39:58):
He and Ben Affleck, I mean they worked on goodwill
hunting for like fifteen years. Like eventually, if you just
keep at it, It doesn't matter what field you're in.
Just keep at it, keep your head down, keep working.
You'll get a good boss. You'll get a good producer,
you'll get a good director. May take it twenty five years.
I mean Rodney Dangerfield got popular. He was like in
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his fifties, like, if you care about something. Matt hasselback
on this season for Trevor Lawrence.
Speaker 3 (40:27):
Trevor's a guy that was taking a lot of heat
and a lot of hate and he, you know, gave
up a big lead.
Speaker 4 (40:31):
I think it was against Houston, and everyone's like, oh,
this is, you know, the same old Jags. Some people
left them off their Super Bowl bubble list. I'm not
gonna name names. When I look at Trevor Lawrence, I
see him directing the pass protection upfront with such confidence,
getting the right hat on the right hat, which is
giving him good protection. And he's kind of walking into
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and living into his potential that everyone's kind of been
waiting for.
Speaker 3 (40:56):
This is a dangerous team.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
Yeah, and they got a chip on their should a
mile long, and Liam Cohen is leaning into it. You know,
I heard these stories about twenty two year olds and
twenty three year old's not getting great jobs. If you
love what you do, you work hard, you're pretty good
at it, you'll get the opportunity. Finally, Trevor Got has
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Speaker 1 (00:26):
Here we go. It's hour two loaded. Good one tonight too.
The forty nine ers still haven't lost a blazing five
pick yet three oho to one. J McK and I
have both had good weekends. Matt Hasselbeck's around the corner.
So yeah, all weekend long, people are complaining about the
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college football playoffs. I can't believe this team got in
and that team got in. Go to March Madness. You
keep telling me that's the greatest sporting event in the world.
Like twenty five teams to get into that thing? Unwatchable?
Bottom line? Do you get the top sixteen college basketball
teams in? Do you get the top sixteen in the
rest of It's filler, That's how I feel about this thing.
(01:10):
Do you get the top eight teams in? Hey got
four teams that you know, we know Texas probably better
than James Madison. I think we could agree Notre Dames
better than two Lane, but they had their opportunity. Notre
Dame played Texas and Miami couldn't win either. I mean,
the regular season's got to mean something, so I think
the college football playoff. I can't wait to watch the
(01:32):
next seven games. Here we go, Colin right, Colin wrong?
Where Colin was right. New England was my surprise playoff pick.
Fourth year in a row. My surprise playoff team has
made it twelve and three, tripled their win total, could
still land the number one seed. You know, it's amazing
what they've done offensively from thirty first to six. The
Kyle Williams great play. We talked about him as he
(01:56):
was a tremendously gifted college player, Stefan Diggs, Henry. It's
a big playoffense and it last year there was none
of that juice. So we got that one right.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Where Colin was wrong.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Mike Tomlin once again secures a winning season. They could
actually win eleven games in Pittsburgh. Now, the game got
a little squirrely in the end, but make no doubt
about it, Pittsburgh was absolutely the better team, holding Detroit
to fifteen rushing yards and listen, are they good enough
(02:30):
to win a playoff game? I don't know, but they
ran the ball. They haven't done that consistently in years.
Aaron has been tremendous. He gets him out of trouble,
no negative plays in the end.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
I was wrong where Colin was right.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
Slinging Sammy d leads his division, Seattle leads the NFL
in point differential. What's interesting with sam He's completing sixty
seven percent of his throws. That's a career high. But
he's also near the top in yards per attempt, so
it's no dinking dunk. He's throwing the ball down the field.
Twenty four total touchdowns the last two years. He has
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more passing touchdowns than Josh Allen, so first quarterback ever.
Back to back seasons, two different teams to win twelve games.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Right on Sammy, Where Colin was wrong.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
I love Trevor Lawrence for years, but all the turnovers
I surrendered. They were five and four after losing the Texans,
I'm like, I'm done, and then they got in a heater.
Liam Cohen deserves a ton of credit. I didn't even
have him in my hurt hierarchy until last week. But
they've just got a lot of good players, you know
what I mean. It's like Parker Washington, where'd he come from?
(03:45):
They could end up thirteen and four. Trevor Lawrence has
kind of gotten out of being lured into bad interceptions.
They deserve all the credit in the world. Just the
minute I gave up on Trevor Lawrence, he pivoted where
Colin was right New York Jet. Now, excuse me, New
York Giant fans, Colin, you're crazy thinking we should draft
(04:05):
Fernando Mendoza. Yeah, Jackson Dart had one completion in the
first half. His coaching staff was terrified to let him
throw the ball. I got nothing against Jackson dark but
if you notice the more we see of him last
couple of starts, it's got a sixty eight passer rating. Well,
they don't have this, they don't have that. Boy. I mean,
(04:25):
I think Jackson Dart been a pleasant surprise. I like him.
But the fact that you wouldn't consider Mendoza with a
number one pick, wouldn't consider it. You're the New York Giants,
You've been unwatchable for a decade. You got to consider.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Everything where Colin was wrong.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
The Carolina Panthers start of the season one in three.
I'm like, come on, this is a bush League operation.
But Dan Morgan, former player, GM nice draft, Dave Kanalis
steadied the ship. You know, I mean Bryce Young extension,
he moves, he's got his star receiver one hundred and
(05:04):
two passer rating, a couple of tunnies, no picks. So again,
do we wish he was bigger and had a bigger arm. Probably,
But when I watch Carolina, I'm like, I just watched
Bryce Young outplay Baker Mayfield. That's impressive. Where Colin was right,
Kaylen de Boor, don't listen to the trolls. He is
a top five head coach to go into Norman, fall
(05:26):
behind seventeen to nothing and then take the game over.
He's not going to be Saban. First of all, the
SEC now has Texas schools, it's deeper, the Big ten's better,
and the money runs everything. Now you can't stack rosters
like Nick Saban could do. Even Kirby smart Georgia had
last two years. Doesn't look like Georgia. They're just a
really good team. So don't listen to anybody. Kaylin de
(05:48):
Boor off of Nick Saban. That's as good as you
can do as an athletic director. That's as good as
you can do. Where Colin was right, Miami Hurricanes kept saying, folks,
watch this defense all year long. I said, I don't
buy in Texas A and m I said, all week
(06:08):
Miami's going to go in there. I don't want to
hear that Mario crystal Ball. You don't trust him. Miami
is going to control this football game. Their defense is
fast and physical and Mario crystal Ball and their nil
money they got dudes. I mean you just you watch
that defense they got dudes. Now, can they beat Ohio State?
(06:32):
I'm not sure if anybody can, but that defense will
keep them in every game they play. So for all
the Miami Hurricane doubters, sorry, they're legit. That defense as
good as anything, maybe even Ohio State's defense. Colin right
wrong on a Monday, and here's Matt Hasselback eighteen years
in the NFL joining US Live.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
So you know, it's.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
A lot of teams feel like, okay, there they are
a regular season story. I'm not sure if it translates
when you watched New England. I don't think i'd be
shocked if they were one and done. But do you
think what they do translates to January in the postseason.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
Yeah, one hundred percent. They just got to stay healthy.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
Listen, this is a team that no one even expected
to be in the playoffs this year. I think maybe
you're the only guy, actually you called it, but not
even Mike Vrabel the way they talked about it. They
traded away all their captains like they were just say,
we're building something for success down the road. So the
success of Drake May in this offense has been incredible.
They use free agency mostly to fix the defense, and
(07:38):
the defense really hasn't been what it's been because Milton
Williams has been out, Spallane's been out. But no, I
think what the big question mark was can we protect
Drake May can Drake May be Drake Drake May May
And he's been that, you know, even without his left
tackle out, without his left tackle in there, and on
the third string tackle yesterday. So no, this this team
(07:59):
is I think built for I think they're one of
the best teams in the AFC, and I do believe
the coaching matters and Mike Rabel and Josh McDaniels and
those guys are proven.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
It one of my favorite And I said, I'm really
impressed with Aaron. And you could say, well, what about
green Bay? Well Farruning, green Bay, Jordan love One, Malik
Willis looked great Aaron, Like, Green Bay does quarterback right,
like you know, it's no chaos. They always have good
old lines. Obviously, he's a great Hall of Fame talent.
But Pittsburgh was offensive, quicksand and one of my favorite
(08:29):
stats is Aaron is letting go of the ball faster
than any quarterback in the league, like you know, like,
and I don't blame him, but with this offense, it
kind of works. It's a size offense. It's not twitchy,
it's not quick, it's just gigantic men. I mean I
watch Aaron, I'm like, this is exactly what this offense
should have. They're not good enough to overcome negative plays.
(08:51):
They don't run it consistently. I'm kind of blown away
by what Aaron's done because this offense for seven years, Matt,
they couldn't get anything right. What do you make of
what he's done?
Speaker 4 (09:02):
Well, they haven't been very consistent this year either, you know,
they've been like, oh, we're going to be an empty
team and then we're going to try to run.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
And we can. But yesterday I thought was the start
of what they hoped to be.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
And you hear Mike Tomlin talk about December football, what
you got to do to win at this time of year.
You got to be able to run the ball, and
you got to be able to stop the run. They
ran for almost two hundred yards yesterday against Detroit, and
then they shut Detroit's run game down, completely shut it down.
So I think this is exactly what I've been sort
of begging for from Aaron Rodgers and the Steelers Arthur Smith.
(09:33):
Aaron Rodgers sees it all. He's a historian of the game.
There's nothing the defense can do. Let him be the maestro,
be the conductor of the orchestra, the point guard.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
He doesn't need to be Michael Jordan.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
He can just get us into the perfect play, give
us explosive runs, throw a perfect back shoulder throw to
a guy like DK. But the question is now, and
maybe this actually helps him in a way. If DK
is suspended, are they going to lean in more to
that run game? Andrew Aaron Rodgers getting us into audibles
in the perfect run looks with thirteen personnel, three tight ends,
(10:07):
all that kind of stuff. That's what I think they
need to do anyway, and then they'll get DK back.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
And then you leave him one on one. We got
Aaron Rodgers, the Hall of Fame thrower.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
You know there used to be it's called there's a
tournament Baseball A bad ball hitter. I think it was.
Vlad Guerrero was known. Vlad Guerrero would hit pitches you
shouldn't even swing at off your.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
No batting gloves too, which is hard to do.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
Colin, I watched Caleb. The layups I'm not sure about,
but some of the plays he makes, I'm like, what,
it's just different. It's hard for me to find a prototype.
You tell me what you see.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
Listen this The last two weeks have been great.
Speaker 5 (10:48):
You know.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
He out dueled Door Sanders against Cleveland, against Malik Willis.
He clearly was the guy at the moment of truth,
when the game is on the line, when your best
is required, he delivered absolute. He makes the hard things
look easy. He makes the easy things look hard, which
is great. If you're a coach, you say, hey, I
can coach you into the easy stuff. You just got
(11:09):
to trust me, and you got to do all the
little things that you probably don't think matter. But I'm
telling you because I'm a coach and I'm older and wiser,
they matter. And that's what your job is as a coach,
because he has this stuff that you can't coach. And
you know, some of the other stuff I think will
come with experience, the stuff at the podium. When there's
an interception, don't say we through an interception. And when
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there's a great play, don't say, oh, I've played in
a lot of big games. I've brought us back and
come back like those are little things that maybe people
don't think matter, but in the long haul, they do.
And that's why I think it does show up on
the field. But to me, he put this team on
his back and critical moments. It was a struggle, bust
of a game, a very windy situation, rivalry.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
Game, and he had two incredible plays.
Speaker 4 (11:51):
And Ben Johnson again, whether it's special teams or offensive
explosive plays or defense on sidekick, this is a guy
that has his team, has the whole city believe in
and they believe they I think a lot of people
believe that they've got their quarterback, and for sure he
is quieting a lot of the doubters.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
You know. It's interesting And I remember Andy Reid came
on this show one time and talked about this. I said,
it's like being a great director. When you have a
talented quarterback. You want to let them do their thing
and add lib, but you have to have an identity.
This is what the movie is. Okay, here's the movie.
I'm going to let you do your thing. And I
kind of feel like that with Ben Johnson, Like it's like, hey, listen, man,
(12:31):
I'm not going to overcoach you. I don't know, I
just I kind of think in a weird way, it's
a little tougher than coaching sometimes a limited quarterback obviously
a capable guy, but Caleb can do stuff like you
can't get in the way of it. Right. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
No, I mean I think it's exciting for a guy
like Ben Johnson because he was coaching Jared Goff who
does everything right but doesn't have the mobility and escapability
to make a bad play call look great. And I
think that's one thing kay can do. You mentioned Andy Reid.
Andy Reid was my quarterback coach my first year. He
coached Brett farv there was. It was almost harder because
(13:08):
if you turned on Brett Favre's mistake reel, it would
look very similar to his touchdown reel, you know, And
so like how do you coach through that? And it's
a little bit like being the trainer of an elite
race horse. There's not just one way to do it.
You kind of got to get to know the horse,
and you got to kind of like, you know, understand
the greatness in that player, and you don't want to
(13:30):
steal the great plays. And I think like what I saw,
you know, in my time in Green Bay, I saw
Mike Holingrind was sort of the bad cop, like, hey,
no more cut it.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
Out or we're going to put your backup in.
Speaker 4 (13:42):
And then Andy Reid was kind of like, Okay, I'm
the good cop.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
Here's how we're going to do it.
Speaker 4 (13:47):
And he came up with parameters for success, and he
made the quarterback in that situation feel like he was
still cutting it loose, playing free, and yet at the
same time accomplishing the goal of the team, which was
consistent play, never ever ever missing an open guy, never
being the reason that a play wasn't successful. Maybe doing
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letting the offense work for you, some of those things.
If you can put all that together, you can have
an MVP quarterback.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
You know, I was saying about the Lions before the season,
I said, when you lose Ben Johnson, Like we all
know head coaches matter, I don't think we understand how
much coordinators matter. Like Detroit doesn't look like the same team.
Go back to your career, and I think, you know,
we always think it's just play calling, and I'm like,
(14:38):
it can't just be play calling. It's got to be
played design, play calling, timing. Like I watched Detroit. They
don't feel the same now, some of its offensive line
regression on the interior, but they got a lot of talent,
and it doesn't even it doesn't smell look the same,
or they're a bad third down team. In your career,
what does a great OC provide then a solid one
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doesn't identity?
Speaker 4 (15:02):
I mean he doesn't even need to be in the room.
You could ask a question and everybody in the room.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
Would say, here's the answer. We all know, like we.
Speaker 4 (15:09):
Know exactly how our coach would answer this situation. So
when you get new people, just like in any workplace,
you get a new supervisor boss, like, you're not really
sure what that person's all about. And they're learning you too,
they're learning their leadership style and what they can trust
you with, and so some of those things. You know,
if you look back on Detroit season, it could be, hey,
what do we want to do on fourth down? I mean, really,
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all you got to look at is Dan Campbell took
over play calling halfway through the year and said, okay, no, no,
this is what I'm looking for. And then you look
at the success that Ben Johnson is having in Chicago
and you can't say, like, oh, they can't miss that guy.
The dude is special, Like he is legitimate as a
head coach. So you take him out of the organization,
there's going to be some growing pains. I do think
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this is going to be a year though, where the
Detroit Lions have to look in the mirror and kind
of reevaluate all that they want to be, whether it's
what they want to be a play caller, how often
they want to go forward on fourth down? Because they're
right there of being in the playoffs. But unfortunately, it
looks like they're not going to be in the playoffs
this year because they didn't get it right this year.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
You know, we were talking about this is that for
years I loved I saw him in high school, I
loved him in college, Trevor Lawrence. And then again you
start get to another coach, and then they're five and four,
they lose to the Texans, and I'm like, it's just
not going to work. He gets lured into bad picks.
And yet, and by the way, he's totally chill, and
Liam Cohen is wildly intense, and You're like, this is combustible,
(16:31):
this is it. But yet I'm watching Ben and Caleb work,
and I'm watching intense Liam Cohen and chill Southern guy
Trevor Lawrence work, and I wonder if that's why it works,
is that they're really different people. What do you make
of this last two months for Trevor Lawrence.
Speaker 4 (16:51):
Yeah, it's been incredible, And I'm one hundred percent in
agreement in terms of the different personality from play caller
to head coach. I mean, I think they work together
that way. Trevor's a guy that was taking a lot
of heat.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
And a lot of hate and he, you know, gave
up a big lead.
Speaker 4 (17:05):
I think it was against Houston and everyone's like, oh,
this is a you know, same old Jags. Some people
left them off their Super Bowl bubble list. I'm not
going to name names, but you know, this is a
team that's playing really good football. And to think that
this team without guys like Travis Hunter, went from sunny,
humid my you know, down in Jacksonville, down in Florida,
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all the way up to loud, cold Denver on the
road and made it look like they said, hey, we
just belong here. They didn't just win this game. They
had Denver waving the white flag. I mean they literally
waved the white flag and said, you know, it's a
two score game.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
We got a short week. We're looking forward to our
next opponent.
Speaker 4 (17:41):
While the game was still going on, like no one
thought that Liam Cohen and his duval they were going
to come in and do that that fixed Trevor Lawrence.
And that's exactly what they've done. When I look at
Trevor Lawrence, I see him directing the pass protection upfront
with such confidence, getting the right hat on the right hat,
which is giving him good protection. And he's kind of
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walking into and living into his potential that everyone's kind
of been waiting for. This is a dangerous team. And
I know they're not a big market team. We've talked
about that, but this is a team to look out for.
They are They're one of the best teams in the AFC.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
I said. One of the stories of the year is
that the Chargers, I think lead the NFL in time
of possession. They're unbelievable on third down and they have
backups everywhere in the old line and they were on
a third string running back. If they were last in
time of possession, you'd be like, well, I totally understand
it there, and yet they're at the top. I don't
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know how to explain it. I didn't even like the
receiving core in camp, and now I love it. Is
that the Harbaugh effect, the Herbert effect, because they should
not be eleven and four when I look at all
their injuries, Like that should not be an eleven and
four team.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
Yeah, you nailed it, Harbaugh Herbert, Like, that's it.
Speaker 4 (18:56):
The grittiness, the toughness your quarterback has literally the year
as surgery comes back and plays in the game. He's
got like one hand, he's going to the ground, can't
even break.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
His fall, and he just plays gritty. He's bloody.
Speaker 4 (19:07):
He doesn't want to even do an postgame interview. He
wants to talk to his teammates like he's just a
football guy. And I think for a long time people
thought of the Chargers is kind of like, ah, they're
a finesse team. They got the cute uniforms. Like, no,
this is a physical football team. And Harbaugh has bought
that to the group.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
And I also think.
Speaker 4 (19:24):
Like doing it with this offensive line, like you mentioned,
I was watching him play in this last game. Literally
the offensive lineman whifts so bad. The d lineman stopped
and he thought that was such a bad block. I
think this is a screen. And he stopped and looked
around like, oh, shoot, no, that was your best effort
trying to block me. And here's Herbert like eyes downfield
just like throws a great crossing round.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
It was like, that's how bad it is right now
for them.
Speaker 4 (19:47):
So to win on time possession, to have your quarterback
healthy enough to play and play gritty the way he
is in the playoffs, with the group that they have,
I mean, get the coach right, quarterback right, you got
a chance, ye.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Matt Hasselbeck on a Monday, it is a you know,
it's funny, I was saying the depth of quarterback We're
not gonna have Mahomes, Burrow and maybe Lamar Jackson, and
yet the quality of quarterback play. I get Purty and
Donald and Stafford and Alan and Herbert and Stroud and Nicks,
and I mean, maybe it's the seven on seven camps,
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but the fact that we can have three legends not
being in the playoff. And I'm like, if I get
this Trevor Lawrence, this Brock Purty, this Sam Donald, I mean,
you know, you know the Seahawks better than anybody. The
fact that Donald is gonna win. He's won twelve games
with a different team when you watched him Thursday night,
and you know Seattle as well as any analyst out there.
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I love the fact that after the game, Mike McDonald's like, yeah,
you guys worry about that stuff. This is what he does.
We're aggressive, we take big swings. We don't care about
the stuff you guys care about.
Speaker 4 (20:55):
I love that, Hey, in game, in game, everybody jumped
off the Sam Donald bandwagon during the game, and then
by the end of the game they were all back on.
And in the Minnesota Vikings and their fans, they've probably
never jumped off it. But no, it's been impressive that
whole division. Darnold Stafford and I would even put the
forty nine ers in that group. That's those three teams
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right there. They've gotten great quarterback play all season long
and they could stand up to anybody. And that's why
all three of those teams are still in play for
the one seed in the NFC. And in this new age,
that's the only bye week. And you know it's not
like two you just get one. One team gets a
bye week now, So that'll be a great one to
watch at the end.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
Matt, Great seeing you on a Monday as always. See
ye all right, Yeah, you know it's funny about the
football so strange. Like if I was Seattle and I
was that young, I would not want to buy week
bone Knicks. I would not want to buy week like.
There are teams that I look at, like Pittsburgh that
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would be a great team to get a bye week.
You got a forty two year old quarterback, you've got
some you know, long in the tooth defenders. Pittsburgh, they're
not gonna get it. But if Pittsburgh could get a
bye week, that would be great for Pittsburgh, San Francisco.
By the way, Kyle Shanahan gets an extra week. With
all those offensive weapons, they're a little there. Was feel
like they're close to being beat up. I would love
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that Philadelphia has had o line injuries. Philadelphia could use
a bye week. But a lot of these teams like,
I'm Jacksonville, I don't want to buy week. I want
to play. I'm Jacksonville. This room, this organization is literally
coming flying downhill. I don't want to buy week. Seattle
young team plays with a lot of juice. I don't
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want any bye week for them. Rams are a little
hit mess. Give Stafford a little time. Feel a little better,
Davonte the hamstring. But it's a lot of times you'll
get buys as a huge advantage. That's a coin flip
to me. I don't think it's that big of advantage
in football unless you're a really old team.
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Speaker 6 (23:51):
Con let's start with that Sunday night football thriller. I
had the Ravens. I was feeling good up eleven with
about eleven minutes left and an absolute choke job. Lamar
Jackson is the big story this morning. He took a
knee in the back, and it looks like after a
total oll shot, you're supposed to be able to go
back in. He couldn't even play after getting the shot,
and he said it to the media last night. He
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took the shot, still couldn't go back in. I don't
know what his status is for next week. Here's Lamar
talking about how desponded he was after the loss.
Speaker 9 (24:24):
Yes, bro, I can't.
Speaker 8 (24:25):
I can't control it after like He'm on the ground,
like I'm done. I gave myself far as I got
need in the back. Well yeah, for the most part,
you can say that because he's it and then we
find for turns and made the playoffs. I can't finish
the game on.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
My guys.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
In law to say, man, that guy cares. He really does.
But this hits been in one of those years like
a JJ McCarthy where he's just had several injuries. They
showed it last night in the broadcast. He can't stay healthy.
And the sport is it's pretty young, the league's never
been younger, and he's taking over the court. I remember
when he broke into the league. The first two years,
you're like, dude, you got to learn to slide. You're
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taking too many shots. This stuff is punitive. It adds
up unless you're as big as like Cam or Josh
Allen like it it. I remember justin Herbert's first two years,
you're like, dude, do not put your shoulder down with
a linebacker get out of bounds fast. He's just it
feels like he's just falling apart.
Speaker 6 (25:22):
I don't think you're wrong, Colin. At to be Early
in the show, remember I said, I think it's over
for this Ravens run. That they've had the chief, same deal,
the coach and the quarterback have been together forever. It's
been great. It's over. You look at this roster other
than Kyle Hamilton. You tell me who won that defense?
Does anything? Why like pockets all night?
Speaker 1 (25:42):
I thought Drake May was good with pressure. I always
trust Baltimore to get it right.
Speaker 6 (25:46):
I listen, it's a tall order.
Speaker 4 (25:48):
Listen.
Speaker 6 (25:48):
AZZI knew some him in that they had a great run. Klein,
Let's be real. This John Harbaugh situation is percolating. I
know some Ravens fans. They are passionate. They go to
all the games, or with the not that the boosters, whatever,
whatever you want to call them. These people are upset
with Harball. They want him out. Colin, How does Dereck
Henry have a touchdown run to put you up eleven
and never touch the ball again in the fourth quarter
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you didn't get a touch Why.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Does Dereck Henry keep fumbling in big spot.
Speaker 6 (26:14):
Well he's getting old. And Lamar Jackson just looked it
up to his twenty nine and about what two weeks here. Listen, man,
this is going to be a big rebuild. The offensive
line a great Ronnie Stanley's just always hurt, Colin. Everybody
has a good run and they paid Lamar. I don't
see a path. What would you say the odds are
right now that John Harbaugh is the Michigan coach next
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year versus staying in Baltimore.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
Zero he will be the coach of the Ravens next year.
Speaker 6 (26:41):
I would say likely, But I don't think zero, Colin.
I'm just telling you, when.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
You go from the best owner maybe in sports, to Michigan,
which is.
Speaker 6 (26:51):
What it's like the team, what if it's not his call.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
They don't fire people like that, they don't. This is
a really huge parting of the way.
Speaker 6 (27:00):
What did Gwyneth Paltrow call it an unconscious uncoupling? I mean, listen,
there is some these Ravens fans are not happy Colin.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
The Severn sideways, they're fan, they're fans.
Speaker 6 (27:12):
Aaron Rodgers is a fifty seven year old fossil and
he's gonna be leading the Steelers to the playoffs. If
the Steelers win, it's over Ravens no playoffs.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Well, I mean it's not like they were terrible. Their
quarterback got hurt. Baltimore to me's not done hurt.
Speaker 6 (27:26):
Wait wait, how come Joe Burrow's glass Joe and Lamar
is well, he got hurt. I mean I'd like to see,
maybe for tomorrow, we'll get you some numbers how many
games have been missed by the star quarterbacks Lamar versus Burrow.
Because it's probably close. I think Burrow's got it buy
a few.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
But yeah, I mean we were on this for years. Like,
Lamar took some shots, and he's not a thick guy,
so I didn't love that part. I might take his.
He'll have an off season. Lamar's gonna come back fast
and healthy. They're gonna hit on three or four draft picks.
They'll be fucked.
Speaker 6 (27:58):
I love the optimism you got. Well, I mean somebody
needs to be positive.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
I mean they've they've been a great organization. If you
if I have trust your owner, your GM, your coach,
your quarterback, to me, they've got a's across the board.
You have dips like Kansas City they'll rebuild. I think
it's more of a rebuild than a retool. But Kansas
City would be good next year. They may not be great,
but they'll get it around. I just I trust smart
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people who have a history of fixing stuff to once
again fixed stuff.
Speaker 6 (28:27):
Double digit wins next year more likely Ravens are Chiefs.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
Ravens weaker division, weaker division.
Speaker 6 (28:34):
I see, yes, good call, all right. Next story, another
quarterback injury, Colin. This one stinks Josh Allen. I'm sure
you saw this play in real time. He's trying to
avoid Miles Garrett and Mason Graham. He's like, oh, oh,
what's going on? And he turns his ankle, goes down.
Something happened. It was clear when he got up, Josh
Allen was not one hundred percent. They took X rays
at halftime. He finished the game, but he did not
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look good at all. Nope, A lot of people, oh,
Josh can't win the end.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
And how about the offense. When he came back.
Speaker 6 (29:01):
The second half, they did nothing. Now, James coput nuclear
first half, thank you to my fantasy team, but he
did nothing second half. They held on in that game.
Colin Josh Allen twelve of nineteen for a Bucks thirty.
Here's McDermott on the status of his quarterback.
Speaker 5 (29:17):
Josh isn't one to lead on if he is. He's
so he's so tough, so competitive, so you know, it's
hard to tell what's really going on inside of that
heartbeat of his you know, he's so. He just loves
being out there with his teammates. So it looked like
he threw the ball, you know well, And but outside
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of that, I don't. I don't have a great feel
for where he's at right now.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
They've been very good. Brandon Bean's very much a cap guy.
They've been very good with a cap. They need to
hit on some draft picks. I mean, I'm watching that
game when Josh Allen's not one hundred percent, Cleveland's going
toe to toe.
Speaker 6 (29:56):
Keon Coleman another healthy scratch. The kid out of Michigan State.
We knew he was a question mark. Lenished the season
of Florida State. Yeah, he might have started at Michigan State.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (30:06):
Oh, he was a hooper, but he looks like a failure. Colin.
Here's the thing, Listen, I love football. I cannot deal
with these star quarterbacks going down. It just concerns me.
I mean Christmas Day, we got three third stringers. I
don't want to see Aluticon or whatever his name is
on the Chiefs in the playoffs. Well, we need Josh
Allen healthy. Man, No, Josh'll be fine. But you know
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we remember just think of the quarterbacks that are making it.
We're gonna get potentially a Bryce Young and Aaron Rodgers,
a Darnold. We have redemption stories.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
We're gonna have Old Stafford, We're gonna have young bo Nicks.
I think the quarterback, all the quarterbacks I want to
watch almost all of them are there. Joe Burrow, we've
stud it for years. He's having to carry a less
than ideal ownership situation. And Mahomes had a rare down year.
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I think it shows and illustrates the depth of quarterback
talent in this league. I mean, I want to watch
Party in the playoffs. I want to watch Darnold in
the playoffs. I want to watch Jordan Love in the playoffs.
I can't wait to watch Drake May and Caleb in
the playoffs.
Speaker 6 (31:09):
Stop, did you say brock perty you want to watch
him in the playoffs? Okay, look at that he likes Purty.
I would, I would quite. This is a good discussion
because Colin this is how bad the quarterback depth is.
The Colts needed somebody, so they called Philip Rivers. Philip Rivers,
who's been on a sofa for five.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
Years and it was great television.
Speaker 6 (31:29):
Okay, So who are the chiefs gonna call? Because I
don't want to see this aluticun guy on Christmas Dale
on my TV throwing at Travis Kelce.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
Well, then it's Christmas. Wrap some presents and don't watch.
Speaker 6 (31:38):
Can we get Ben Roethlisberger?
Speaker 9 (31:39):
Is he?
Speaker 6 (31:40):
Is he taping a podcast that day?
Speaker 1 (31:41):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (31:42):
I mean I need to see I need stars and
I Josh Allen please stay ny.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
Plenty of stars.
Speaker 6 (31:47):
All right, final story call. Let's go to the Niners.
They got a big one tonight against the Colts. I
think this is for you. Who do you have in
this for Blazon five?
Speaker 1 (31:55):
I have the Niners because it's indoors and there won't
be any clouds, So I like him.
Speaker 6 (32:00):
No rain, Yes for brock Perdy. Here he is Purty
QB one talking about all the things going on in
tonight's game against the Colts.
Speaker 9 (32:09):
Obviously it's nice but I mean, we really do have
to take you one day at a time because if
we don't obviously take care of business this week, then
none of that matters. So for us, it's how can
we continue to get better just even this week at practice?
Handle business on Monday, and they make that everything right now.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
So that's where we have to be. Maybe the best
coaching job of Shanahan his career. Salah a lot of
smoking mirrors defensively, but the offense. I will say this,
that offense is humming they and when Perty's move, and
I thought last week was the first week all year
that Brock moved like Brock can move. Christian mccaffert, Trent Williams,
(32:47):
by the way, still very good at left tackle, still elite.
So when when broadcasts time and he's healthy, it's a
fun offense. Jennings and they don't need Brandon, I you,
they don't need Debo. Listen if you go look at
Jimmy Garoppolo, Mac Jones, Brock Purty, if they're healthy and
Shannan's coaching them, it's fun to watch.
Speaker 6 (33:09):
Over under one and a half Dougies tonight for Brock,
Purdy and the Niners under college can let me just
turn back to clock before we were working together or
I really knew you. You had one of the great
takes of all time about John Wall doing the Dougie
before his first by a game. Do you remember that?
Speaker 1 (33:25):
Yeah, But the difference is John Wall had never played
an NBA game. Brock Purty has earned the right to
have fun.
Speaker 6 (33:30):
Yeah, he's dancing on the sidelines.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
They love it.
Speaker 6 (33:32):
Listen, the King loves Purty.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
They love him. And the truth is Brock has delivered
a lot of big wins for the organization. He's not
a veteran in the NFL, but I mean he's substantial.
He has a real resume, and he has earned the
right to have some fun.
Speaker 6 (33:47):
That doesn't look a couple injury notes. DeForest Buckner back
gets a huge get back for the Colts on the
defensive line. However, no Sauce Gardner, no Charvarius Ward.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
They're back in trouble.
Speaker 6 (33:57):
Oh yeah, could be a big Juwan Jetting game. Colin,
you and I both on the Niners today.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
Yep. Jmck with a news.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
The herd line news, I mean the AFC, the AFC
quarterbacks Nick's May, Lawrence Rogers, Herbert Alan Stroud. That's star Power,
NFC Darnold, Caleb Hurts, Bryce Young, Stafford Purty in Love.
So that show, I mean, and we're missing some stars,
but there's there's plenty of leading men for these movies.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd Weekdays
and Noon Easter not a Empacific Tonight.
Speaker 6 (34:34):
On FS one. It's the latest chapter in the Bragging
Right series as Missouri takes on eighteenth ranked Illinois in
downtown Saint Louis And I'll tips off at eight pm
Eastern right here or in FS one.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
Yeah, I noticed, you know, I noticed all weekend long
people were complaining about Tulane and James Madison in the playoffs.
So I just looked this up. Y'all tell me how
you love March madness. You love March madness. Let me
give you an example of teams that make it into
March Madness. Not one or two, Mount Saint Mary's, SIU, Edwardsville,
(35:10):
Grand Canyon, Lipscom, Norfolk, State, Bryant and high Point. They
sound like accommodation of craft beers and national parks. What
are those schools? They all got boat raced. I mean,
you got a couple of college football teams. You're not
really happy therein folks, Only four of the thirty two
(35:32):
four of the thirty two first round games in March
Madness were decided by fewer than seven points. It's nothing
but blowouts. Well, there's sixty eight teams and twenty five blowouts.
You can't live with two. Really, you can't live with
a couple of lobsided football games. Then you can't tell
me you like college football because there's thirty a weekend.
(35:54):
I mean, go look at I mean, some of these
schools like Alabama play Panera bread. I mean, give me
a break that, you know. So whenever I hear college
football fans, all I know is the eight best teams
in the country starting this week. Their plan. Whe do
the games start? By the way, they got this long layoff?
(36:18):
Too long? But the eight teams and the final seven
games are gonna be great. Who cares if there's a
couple of choppy games. March Madness has been living off this.
Oh my god, Cinderella. Cinderella never wins. You can sell
certain things to people and they keep buying it. Cinderella
(36:38):
doesn't win, and by the way, you don't need nine
protein bars a day. God, if I have to go
see another guy with his shirt off, sell me protein bars.
You don't need that much protein. You get all your
vitamins and a healthy hamburger. Next round games are next Wednesday,
New Year's Eve, so that gonna be great, all right.
The other thing is everybody's gi I can hear Jmax
(36:59):
during the is he the worst quarterback potentially in the
AFC playoffs? First of all, there's no indignity having like
an eleven game winning streak snapped to red hot Jacksonville.
Jacksonville has been bad forever, so they've got good draft picks.
They got all sorts of players Denver's twelve and three
(37:20):
in a really good division of coaching. They still give
me the number one seed and lousy bon Knicks engineered
four hundred and forty five yards of offense and six
point eight yards of play. Bon Nix is fine. Now
the defense got worked. But that's okay too, because you
know I said this last week on the air, Jay
(37:41):
Mack is my witness. I said, keep your eye on Jacksonville. Here.
It just felt like Denver had been in so many big, close,
emotional games winning all of them. I'm like, you know,
Jacksonville doesn't sound big. I mean even Sean Payton talking
about the market size. So this is not college football.
The Rams lost to Carolina got worked. The Patriots lost
(38:05):
to the Raiders, the Bills lost to Atlanta. It is
really hard in this league to go on winning streaks.
I mean, the Texans yesterday, we're struggling with the best
defense in the league. They were trying to shut down
Gino and the Raiders. So you know, you don't get
an equal effort every Sunday. We know that in college,
but it's true in pro football. Here's bo nicks off
(38:27):
the loss.
Speaker 10 (38:29):
We got hitting the mouse today and they played a
good game, and you know we let it get away.
But you'd rather have it hit you now than the
first round the playoffs. And you know, weren't called a
wake up call because we were playing well. It's just
one of those that'll reset you and put you back
and get you back to you know, you know where
you need to be, you know, put you in a
(38:50):
good mindset.
Speaker 1 (38:50):
If you'll let it, yeah, they'll be fine. The other
thing is we've talked about this kind of ad nauseum
on the show before is there's never been more smart
offensive coaches. And what it's creating. It's creating these second
careers for Sam Darnold who just needed the right coach
or coaches, this second career for Baker Mayfield. Well have
(39:13):
you noticed this year Baker's not playing very well. He
lost he lost Liam Cohen, and Liam Cohen is now
the head coach of the Jaguars and he's really good.
And that's what I'm saying is you start looking at
some of these offensive coaches. I love Matt Stafford. If
Matt Stafford had a defensive coach, a defensive culture, he
(39:36):
not putting up forty touchdowns five picks. I think a
lot of the Trevor Lawrence Story's always been a talented kid.
He was a like number one high school quarterback. It
took him a long time, many many years. But eventually,
if you're talented, you'll get the right boss. If you're
a great actor, you'll eventually, you know, you hear all
these stories. Everybody thinks Matt Damon was an overnight success.
(39:58):
He and Ben Affleck, I mean they worked on goodwill
hunting for like fifteen years. Like eventually, if you just
keep at it, It doesn't matter what field you're in.
Just keep at it, keep your head down, keep working.
You'll get a good boss. You'll get a good producer,
you'll get a good director. May take it twenty five years.
I mean Rodney Dangerfield got popular. He was like in
(40:20):
his fifties, like, if you care about something. Matt hasselback
on this season for Trevor Lawrence.
Speaker 3 (40:27):
Trevor's a guy that was taking a lot of heat
and a lot of hate and he, you know, gave
up a big lead.
Speaker 4 (40:31):
I think it was against Houston, and everyone's like, oh,
this is, you know, the same old Jags. Some people
left them off their Super Bowl bubble list. I'm not
gonna name names. When I look at Trevor Lawrence, I
see him directing the pass protection upfront with such confidence,
getting the right hat on the right hat, which is
giving him good protection. And he's kind of walking into
(40:52):
and living into his potential that everyone's kind of been
waiting for.
Speaker 3 (40:56):
This is a dangerous team.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
Yeah, and they got a chip on their should a
mile long, and Liam Cohen is leaning into it. You know,
I heard these stories about twenty two year olds and
twenty three year old's not getting great jobs. If you
love what you do, you work hard, you're pretty good
at it, you'll get the opportunity. Finally, Trevor Got has
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