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January 8, 2026 • 41 mins

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
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Speaker 1 (00:27):
Here we go, Hour two Miami and Old Miss Tonight.
I like the Hurricanes. Keep your eye on Trinidad Chamless though, kids, crazy,
crazy fun. You're gonna see some really good quarterback play
here Carson Beck, Trinidad Chambliss, and tomorrow night, Dante More,
Fernando Mendoza. That's some good quality college quarterback play.

Speaker 3 (00:52):
Very excited.

Speaker 4 (00:53):
You know.

Speaker 1 (00:54):
It's interesting is that sometimes, and I understand the attractiveness
of this, that there's an outlier or an exception or
an anomaly, Like when Tom Brady is the greatest quarterback
of all time and you look where he gets drafted,
and then brock Perty's playing and everybody's like, uh oh,
you can find quarterbacks everywhere. Twelve of the fourteen quarterbacks

(01:20):
were drafted in the first round that are in the playoffs,
and Jalen Hurts was top of the second Oh, by
the way, the three teams that just missed the playoffs,
you know what those are, Detroit, Tampa Bay, Baltimore. They're
quarterbacks also taken in the first round. So and Brock Purty.

(01:47):
Let's be honest. Between George Kittle, Trent Williams, Christian McCaffrey,
those are all first ballot Hall of famers. He's got
generational tech. George Kittle's the top three tight end ever,
top three or four tight end. He's still great. R
Williams top six to seven left tackle all the time.
McCaffrey's the third best running back I've ever seen, behind
Peyton and Barry Sanders and the quarterback whisper. So I

(02:08):
think it's a great story. Tom Brady would not be
drafted in the sixth round if he came out today.
He led the Big ten in completion percentage. I mean,
JJ McCarthy was a game manager. He went in the
first round. So I think these are great stories. I
understand everybody loving the Oh my god, you can get

(02:28):
quarterbacks everywhere. Twenty three of the top twenty five offensive
tackles left tackles in league history are first round. The
planet only makes so many guys at six seven, three
twenty with great feet they go in the first round.
So there's always been this feeling. Oh, it's just you
don't know what you get. No, there's a lot of
misses in the first round. But you're great quarterbacks. You know,

(02:52):
Tom Brady's not going late rounds now. People say, well,
uh oh what about Dak Prescott. How many conference championships
he'd been in? He's really good, but he went in
the fourth round. Kirk Cousins, where are all the where
all the super Bowls? The great ones go early? And yes,

(03:14):
Kurt Warner to me is you know, bagging groceries. That's
all time crazy. But but it's like the movie Hoosiers
is based on a true story. The movie Miracle is
based on a true story. I mean, Kurt Warner is
the amazing story, right, but that's not the rule is
you get your you get your left tackles, and you
get your quarterbacks. I mean you look around the NFL,

(03:37):
right now, you look Miles Garrett, Well there was the
first round guy. So uh, you know, Brady led the
Big ten in completion percentage, so he would he not?
He not going later round? Does I mean you you
take guys now in the first round. I mean Josh
Allen didn't and Mahomes didn't have winning records in college.

(04:00):
But I mean Thomas six', five, well he wasn't a great.
Athlete With Jared Goff jared goffin number one from cal
was he a great? Athlete it's just it's it. Is
and people, say, well broughck Pretty why did he go?
Last The niners skipped on him six? Times, Again why
Did Kurt warner not get? Drafted there are absolutely exceptions
to everything. There you, know in THE, NBA i do

(04:24):
think it really helps to be, strong, physical with a
great vertical, jump and hyper. Athletic but you do realize
who led THE nba in scoring in the nineteen.

Speaker 3 (04:35):
Eighties Alex, english.

Speaker 1 (04:38):
Who i'm not sure IF i fold this, paper it
could have jumped over, that jumped over. THAT i, MEAN
i Loved Alex, english but he played in the right
system In denver WITH i Think Dug. Mo they scored
the head you, know it Was issel And Fat lever
And Alex. English Alex english led THE nba in scoring
in the. Eighties he was not dunking a little bit
of AN sga feel to. HIM i, mean look At

(05:00):
sga right, now he's YOUR nba like scoring. GUY sga
doesn't fit the profile of wildly dynamic jump Over Michael jordan.
Guy there's outliers to. Everything AND i just think the
scouting right now is so. Good every game is on.
Television it's JUST i, MEAN I i, MEAN i, like right,

(05:21):
Now mendoza And Dante more if they come, out those
are really good. Quarterbacks you, know guys transfer, now so
they're not only identified in THE, nfl they're they're. IDENTIFIED i,
Mean Kurt signetti Identified mendoza At. Cow so there's much better,
coaching much better offensive.

Speaker 3 (05:41):
Coaching.

Speaker 1 (05:42):
Today Tom brady would not be a late round pick
when he led The big ten in completion. Percentage he
would not fall to that slot. Today and with, That
Tom brady is joining us. Live he'll be doing The
Niners eagles, game seven Time Super bowl. Champ SO i
went and, looked this is, Funny. TOM i went and
looked at your highlight ights this morning of your FIRST nfl,

(06:02):
Start tom scampering for a rushing touchdown playing in the
playing AND i lived there for ten, Years New england.
Weather were you nervous first start go back to what
what were you like?

Speaker 5 (06:14):
Emotionally it was actually such a great day for football
when you see, that there's only a few kind of
games in your career where you.

Speaker 6 (06:22):
Have that type of.

Speaker 5 (06:23):
WEATHER i remember going out there in pregame warm up
and it was like six inches of snow on the.
GROUND i, Thought, okay the pass rush isn't going to
be too tough. Today so kind of me plowing through
the snow and diving in there for the. TOUCHDOWN i
was one of the memorable moments of my career AND
i never played in the. Game there was maybe one
other game WHERE i had that type of weather, Conditions
but for so many, REASONS i still can remember the

(06:46):
way the snow was falling in, pregame and you, KNOW
i have these visions of kind of in a weird,
WAY i can kind of go back to that day
and relive it in my own mind WHEN i see these.

Speaker 6 (06:56):
Highlights so thanks for bringing it.

Speaker 5 (06:58):
Up there's a lot of great, memories probably not for
The raider, fans are from my Boy Charles, woodson who's
still you, know, LITERALLY i think every time we see
each other in some former, fashion you, know some type
of fumble or non fumble event comes. Up but it
was a really special first playoff start for, me and
it was it WAS i think the last game in

(07:19):
that stadium as.

Speaker 6 (07:19):
Well so that was a lot of great.

Speaker 1 (07:21):
Memories so let's Talk eagles forty nine. ERS i was
saying to the staff, yesterday we were thinking of, questions
AND i, said The eagles are the opposite of Your.
Patriots they're, loud there's, drama they're, uneven they have, halfs
they don't complete. Passes i'm not exactly sure What sirianni,
is but he's a.

Speaker 3 (07:38):
Winner You're.

Speaker 1 (07:40):
PATRIOTS i always said. This you guys were like the
brilliant accounting. FIRM i knew WHAT i was get Every.
Sunday the weather didn't, matter the opponent DIDN'T i knew
exactly WHEN i lived In connecticut what the game would.
Look you'd have maybe one game a year where it.
UNRAVELED i don't even know series this series WHAT i
get From.

Speaker 3 (07:56):
Philadelphia you've done their.

Speaker 1 (07:58):
Games how do you explain their success when they're this,
uneven this lowed.

Speaker 6 (08:03):
Consistently, yeah you're, right but let me go.

Speaker 5 (08:06):
Back first of, all, Famously New england isn't known for.
DRAMA i think we had more gates Than Logan International
airport for twenty. Years there was always some sort of
drama happening with our team over the course of the,
year AND i think it's the product of having a
lot of successful moments too where you, KNOW i look

(08:28):
At philly and they got a tough media, market and
in The northeast in, GENERAL i think there's always these
environments that are a little bit tougher for the, fans
for the. Players you, know it's a tough. City it's
a hard no. City the, fans they expect a lot every.
Year so they've had success obviously in The Super bowl
a few years ago than they won it last, year

(08:48):
and you, know now it's, like, well we should just
win every. Game but the reut of THE nfl is
you don't win every. Game the competition is really, tough
and then when you cover the, team you're always looking
for a little chain in the, armor AND i think
that ends up kind of feeling, like you, know there's
distraction or drama because Aj brown doesn't get every target
Or saquan's not rushing for two thousand yards. Again but

(09:11):
understand in some ways those are, anomalies you, know that
Season saquon had last year was an. Anomaly he's a phenomenal.

Speaker 6 (09:19):
Player he's going to be A hall Of.

Speaker 5 (09:20):
Famer but no running back rushes for two thousand yards every.
Year so when it's less than two, thousand we all
make a big drama that it's not two thousand, again but.

Speaker 6 (09:31):
The reality is it's probably. Closer you.

Speaker 5 (09:32):
Know this year is maybe a little down for him
for a number of different, reasons but he's still a phenomenal.

Speaker 6 (09:38):
Player The, eagles they still got a great football.

Speaker 5 (09:40):
Team if they're drama and they're sitting in the position they're,
In i'm sure Coach siriani would take the drama every
single week the way that he ends up approaching his
management to the. Team BUT i think they're as dangerous
as a playoff team as they're is alive right.

Speaker 1 (09:55):
Now so there's an interesting stat With Kyle. Shanahan AND
i Love. SHANAHAN i think he's the great play designer
of his, generation Like andy was for years Or Bill.
Walsh but there is a weird, stat AND i think
it does point to. It when a stat gets too,
WEIRD i said last, hour it's usually a personality. Thing.
Uh he has the best play sheet in the. League
they used the most, motion but he doesn't come from.

(10:18):
Behind there's a remarkable number With, shanahan like if he
trails by seven plus points at, half they don't. Win
my knock is that he is a little tied to
the play sheet THAT i think a coach should be,
more way more Than google. Maps you gotta gotta go
with the, floor, right go with the. Flow AND i

(10:39):
want to go back To josh McDaniel because You Sean,
payton bow, Knicks Ben johnson And caleb you were a
guy alway was This sometimes you rip it up and start.
Over give me some examples in the. Playoffs are there
times maybe Those baltimore, Games, tom when you went into
it and, said, guys this isn't. Working we have got to.

(10:59):
CHANGE i, mean did you have like dramatic halftime moments like.

Speaker 5 (11:02):
THAT i don't know if it's, dramatic BUT i think
when you have the continuity that we had over a
period of time in the, playoffs you could quickly adapt
or you, know because it's hard in the playoffs if
you get down early in the, game and you, know
we add a few games this year where teams were you,
Know chicago for, Example Like caleb had six yards passing
in the first, half then he comes out in the
second half and he rattles off two hundred plus yards

(11:23):
and they win the. Game and it's a dramatic kind
of come from behind win that.

Speaker 6 (11:27):
The bears would.

Speaker 5 (11:28):
Have but in the, playoffs it becomes much more difficult
to come back by ten points or more against a
very good football.

Speaker 6 (11:35):
Team. Right SO i would just, say, though the.

Speaker 5 (11:37):
Important part to realize on all this is every team
is built a specific. Way the forty nine ers have
always been built to run the, football to play good,
defense and use a lot of play action pass to get.
Explosives the strength of their team isn't the wide out.
Position this, year you, know With ayuk, situation they kind
of brought in some some you, know receivers that Joined

(12:00):
JENNINGS i, Like, BOORN i. Like but at the same,
TIME i would say the strength their team is throwing
to the half, back throwing the ball to the tight,
end and it's not kind of maybe what we see
it a Traditional Kyle shanahan.

Speaker 6 (12:11):
Offense it doesn't mean they can't come.

Speaker 5 (12:13):
BACK i do think it's difficult with some of these, systems,
though that are built on the run game and play
action pass to come. Back you, KNOW i was a
part of MORE i would say a drop back passing
team where our passing concepts were very.

Speaker 6 (12:26):
Detailed very.

Speaker 5 (12:26):
Methodical our protection schemes very methodical in. DETAIL i probably
had twenty to thirty different protection. SCHEMES i would say
The West coast offense has maybe half of.

Speaker 6 (12:36):
Those so there are things that.

Speaker 5 (12:39):
That West coast offense has done with some of these,
coaches they can do that are tremendous when they play
in their, style AND i think when they get out
of their. Style, ultimately that's what you're trying to. Do
when you're playing good, teams you're trying to get to.
Play you're trying to get those teams to play left.
Handed you're taking away their, stars you're minimizing their, strengths
and you're maximizing their. Weaknesses there's always a formula to.

(13:01):
WIN i think the forty nine ers they're going to
win this. Week they better get out to a, lead
they better play from. Ahead they and they're going to
need to create some issues for This eagles offense to
get them off track a bit, too because they play
so well and they have performed very well in the biggest.

Speaker 1 (13:18):
Moments so one of the similarities with you And mahomes
is that you both had great success early in the,
playoffs so you never had this thing hanging over your head, like,
oh they can't win those close. Ones, Well buffalo's oh
for its last eight playoff road, Games josh is zero to.
Five usually golf and, baseball there's down time the sport

(13:41):
can get into your. Head, hockey, football, basketball you don't
have prolonged. Slumps you got a series coming. Up BUT
i do Think tom it's tied at twenty four to,
Late buffalo's got the. BALL i can't believe. THEY i
think all the pressure in the world's on of all
the teams this. Weekend that's got to play a little psychological,

(14:04):
part does it.

Speaker 5 (14:05):
Not, yeah, WELL i think it's very, psychological very. Emotional
when they've been in these, situations they haven't played the
type of winning football needed in order for them to,
advance and they've sometimes they've gone, against in my, Opinion
patrick and The chiefs, team which has, been you, know
the team that everyone's always aiming, for and you get
caught up in those games against you, know The Chiefs
they've been a tough out for a long. Time now

(14:27):
they're out of it this. Year so Can buffalo find
it within themselves to play their best football in the
biggest moments and look some weeks they've looked. Great the
passing game looks. Great, obviously they're runners one of the
top backs in THE. Nfl and the Way josh plays
when he's playing his, rhythm you, know he's virtually. IMPOSSIBLE
mvp caliber season last year AND i thought he played

(14:48):
very well this. Season so the good part about the
playoffs is it's not where you, play.

Speaker 6 (14:54):
It's not who you, play it's how you.

Speaker 5 (14:55):
Play and if it really interesting the playoffs this, year
how you play in these games is going to determine
who moves on the team that doesn't turn the ball,
over controls the line of, scrimmage plays well in situational,
football makes the stops in the red area or you,
know or it goes the opposite. Way and that's WHY
i think this playoffs more so than WHAT i can
remember in the past in THE nfl has done an

(15:17):
unbelievable job this season with the parody in these, games
and it's been so fun for me to cover them For.
Fox from my vantage, Point i'm sure it's been very
fun for the fans watching at.

Speaker 1 (15:27):
Home So Bears packers meeting for a third. Time would
you rather have familiarity in the, playoffs a constant rival or,
opponent or did you like the element of? Surprise they
don't know, you you don't know, them your. TRICKS i,
MEAN i don't which side do you like playing a
team for a third?

Speaker 5 (15:49):
TIME i would say that's pretty. Tough, look if you're
in the, playoffs it shouldn't. Matter you know who you're,
playing where you're playing. Again this is all, about like you're,
In you've got a, shot you got an. Opportunity what
are you going to do with that. Opportunity i've called
Five Chicago bears games this. Season nobody thought they would
have the type of season that they've. Had we had
them In Green bay Where caleb threw a kind of

(16:12):
an interception at the last play of the game To Keishawn.

Speaker 6 (16:14):
Nixon which sealed the victory for The.

Speaker 5 (16:16):
Packers then all of a, sudden this crazy, comeback which
Was America's game of The, week where they were covered
on side kick and they go to overtime And caleb
hits the bomb. Downfield and this is what you love about.
It these two teams know each other so. Well guys
are coming out of you, know some unherlded receivers from
The bears have made some plays late in these. Games

(16:36):
so it is a super tight matchup for this. Game
this is one of the most intriguing games of the.
WEEKEND i can't wait to see how both teams.

Speaker 6 (16:46):
Played and, look they know each other so.

Speaker 5 (16:47):
Well so now it really does come down to the
fundamentals and possession of the football and knowing your assignment's.
Details these are really tremendous programs this, season great. Coaches you,
know we'll see if who's the most prepared when they
take the.

Speaker 6 (17:01):
Field so.

Speaker 1 (17:04):
It's such an offensive. League, now twelve of the fourteen
quarterbacks or first round. Guys IF i Were. Seattle IF
i Was, SEATTLE i would not want to. BUY i
think they're, young, Hot i'd want to. Play same With.
Denver i'm not a Big bye. Fan, Now, akein you
played in the, division you had a lot of, Those
SO i do Wonder seattle And denver aren't. Playing did

(17:32):
you like the extra time or did you just want
to keep?

Speaker 6 (17:35):
Playing, Yeah so it's a great. Question it is not
a week of.

Speaker 5 (17:39):
Rest let me say, that it's a week of, preparation
and it's a week of preparation for what is going
to be the most difficult game of the, season because
it's whoever you play will have won a playoff. Game
as you approach that game and that, week they're going
to have tremendous confidence whoever you're going to. Play they're, like,
man we're already in the, playoffs won a. Game these

(18:00):
guys have been sitting there not preparing. Arrested but to,
me it was, like what can we get done during
this week that's going to give us an advantage for
the following. Week so to actually have the week off
to really take inventory this late in year what you're good,
at what you're not GOOD i always thought was really.
IMPORTANT i felt LIKE i was really fresh going into
the divisional. Round i'm sure with the you, know there's

(18:22):
some great coaching, Obviously Sean payton with with what he's,
done and you, know Young mike McDonald as a coach
and kind of the valuable experience that he's gained from
last year and this. Year seattle's been tremendous on. Defense
their defensive line is one of the, greatest you, KNOW
d lines in, football probably the BEST d line in.
Football they're suffocating on, defense and that goes a long

(18:44):
way if, they you, know get a turnover to going
To seattle and trying to win with that crowd. Noise
that is a, very very tough out to try to
Get seattle out of the.

Speaker 1 (18:55):
Playoffs So i'm A stafford Over Drake MAY, mvp and
the reason, BEING i think even THE nfl uses strength
of schedule in tie, breakers And stafford's schedule he beat
number One houston, Defense number Two seattle with great against
The jags defense Played. Philadelphia this is not a knock
On Drake, may but they had the weakest schedule in
twenty six. YEARS i do think there IS i think

(19:17):
schedule has to matter when one team has the weakest
and twenty six years and the other has an excellent.
SCHEDULE i don't know if you voiced this. PUBLICLY i
think you're lean And, stafford are you?

Speaker 5 (19:27):
Not, YEAH i just, Said, LOOK i Love Drake may
and what he's done in his Second you're working With josh,
McDaniels who's another tremendous coach and has done such a
great job kind of understanding What drake's capable, of And
drake's taken advantage of every opportunity that he's. Got AND
i always think in these, awards when you say one
thing that's positive about, someone mean you're saying something negative

(19:48):
about the.

Speaker 6 (19:49):
Other it's not like. That all they both had incredible.

Speaker 5 (19:51):
YEARS i just See Matt stafford as A hall Of
fame level quarterback that has played his best season of.
Football and he's done it, again you, know in any.
Conditions forty six touchdown. Passes he's just been, incredible AND
i just love that the way he leads his, team
and you, know there's no bad choice at this. Point
you're talking about some of the best players in the.

(20:13):
League but mad has in my, opinion he's just really
exceeded everyone's expectations this. Season and what incredible quarterback and
what a career he's.

Speaker 3 (20:22):
Had let's wrap it up with.

Speaker 1 (20:24):
This there's a there's a famous clip where you go
to the sidelines And belichick, says settled, Down, tommy settled.

Speaker 3 (20:32):
In And you're, Like i'm the guy rd the wrong.

Speaker 1 (20:34):
Route So drake may first playoff, Game Caleb williams that
crowd is going to be electric first playoff. Game you,
Know Jalen birks has been around the, Block Josh, Allen
so how did YOU i, mean even at the end
you get To Super bowls like?

Speaker 6 (20:49):
It? Yea how how did.

Speaker 1 (20:51):
You control emotionally that first pass that first, series because
it's just playing at The masters is different than the
you wo, Open playing a playoffs game is different Than week?

Speaker 3 (21:03):
Twelve how do you control?

Speaker 6 (21:04):
Them?

Speaker 5 (21:05):
SO i guess the Point colin, is first of, all
that clip With belichick always thinks funny because he would
never come up to me at the first quarter of
the first series of a game and tell me to
say UNTIL i realized he was miked. Up and then
that came out AND i was, like oh, god NOW
i got. It but it's a good exchange BECAUSE i
ACTUALLY i can sink back into that memory as, well
and we had such a great. Rapport actually always him

(21:27):
in touch with, him and he's been a great mentor for,
me and he was always trying to get the best
out of, me which is like what a lot of
these great coaches in the playoffs are doing with their,
Quarterbacks and how do you prepare these quarterbacks for playoff?
Football you put pressure on them every single week to
be their, best and you don't wait for the playoffs
to go all, right, guys well now it's, playoffs let's
do something. Different you've been preparing them all off season

(21:50):
Since april so that they can be at their best
when it matters the most for their. Team SO i
just felt like the pressure to succeed on a daily
basis in great organizations and to not let your teammates
down prepared you for the biggest moments of the season
when everybody's, watching and that's when you need to play your.
Best the margin of there is the smallest because you're

(22:12):
playing the best, teams so you need to be at your.

Speaker 6 (22:15):
Best and the only way to be at your.

Speaker 5 (22:17):
Best on these days is to think about over the
course of the entire. Offseason you need to be at
your best every, day and that's the reality of professional.
Sports that's what the great athletes, do that's what the
great quarterbacks, do constantly putting pressure on themselves to succeed
regardless of the, moment and that prepares you for these
big moments that they're about to face this.

Speaker 1 (22:38):
Weekend you, know we have so many interesting offensive stories
and a franchise that doesn't get any attention Is.

Speaker 3 (22:45):
Jacksonville AND i.

Speaker 1 (22:46):
Think you and you probably Like Trevor lawrence At clemson
and we all thought, yeah but he was kind of turnover.
Prone and then Against Liam cohen and this will be
my final, question what Is liam doing to create? CLARITY
i always Felt trevor got lured into bad picks and
now he. Doesn't is it? Scheme is it temp? Though

(23:09):
what Is liam doing that we get the Real Trevor?

Speaker 3 (23:12):
Lawrence?

Speaker 6 (23:12):
Now, well it's a lot of.

Speaker 5 (23:14):
Things AND i Think liam's done a great job even
when he was At tampa last. Year or he has
a couple opportunities, to you, know really kind of take
the skill sets that he's learned from other coaches that
he's been around and then morph them into a system
where they have a lot of good skill.

Speaker 6 (23:29):
Players And trevor is.

Speaker 5 (23:31):
You, know a coach has got to get the players.

Speaker 6 (23:33):
A lot of.

Speaker 5 (23:33):
Layups good OC's get their quarterbacks. Layups you don't have
to thread the needle on every single.

Speaker 6 (23:40):
Throw you got guys that are wide.

Speaker 5 (23:41):
Open, great there's a big margin of air on a
big portion of the. Passes that's the goal of an offensive.
Coordinator it's to how do we create through our, scheme
either the route concepts or run, concepts how can we
give our players a little bit of an advantage because
they realize if you don't give them an, Advantage like
an to a, golfer would you.

Speaker 6 (24:01):
Rather hit a three iron or four iron into a?
Green or would you rather hit a pitching?

Speaker 5 (24:05):
Wedge over, time the more pitching wedge you hit when
your opponent's hitting three irons or four, irons the more
of an advantage you. Have and the good coordinators Like
liam AND i know he's a head, coach but he
calls the place Likea Kyle, shannan Likea josh, McDaniels like
A Sean. Payton these guys are hitting sand wedges into,
greens and that's what you want to. Do and then

(24:25):
ultimately the quarterback needs to play a part of. That
as you, mature you get, older you start to give your. Coordinator,
okay these are the THINGS i really. Loved this is
What i'm really. Confident you become an extension of the coaching,
staff and that's.

Speaker 6 (24:39):
When you really start firing on all c.

Speaker 5 (24:40):
Owners that's WHAT i, Did that's What Drew brees, Did
that's What Peyton manning. Did we had our own imprint
on what the game plan should. Be we were totally
confident in everything that was being, called which allowed us
to go out there and executed our.

Speaker 1 (24:53):
Best forty nine Ers Eagles, sunday Four eastern On. Fox
it's there's gonna be some records. Broken that is going
to be so. Intense two HUGE nfl blue. Bloods tom as,
ALWAYS i appreciate you stopping.

Speaker 6 (25:10):
By, hey thanks for inviting me.

Speaker 5 (25:12):
BACK i Know shanks And zeger had to call to
try to get me, on so, eventually you, know you'll
just invite me. Yourself But i'm glad we're going to
make this, work certainly.

Speaker 6 (25:18):
As we go into the.

Speaker 1 (25:19):
Playoffs thank, You Tom, brady, uh seven times Super bowl.

Speaker 3 (25:23):
Champ yeah he.

Speaker 6 (25:24):
Is.

Speaker 3 (25:24):
Uh you know, YEAH i don't like. THAT i don't
like to bother. People you.

Speaker 1 (25:28):
Know Maybe i'll just get on the phone and make things.
Happen that last answer is. Fascinating it's a really great
way to put. It the more times you can hit
a pitching wedge instead of a three, iron the better the.
Golfer no matter how well you hit the three, Iron
IF i get to hit the wedge or my nine
or my, eight and you're hitting fairway. Woods over the

(25:51):
course of, Time i'm gonna win the. Round that's a
great way to put. It you got to you got
to create some. Layups you got to give these guys. Everything, Hey,
trevor just go be. UNBELIEVABLE i always said this About Michael.
Jordan michael mastered the mid range jumper in about three
times a. Game michael would put the tongue, out switch

(26:12):
hands in mid, air and you'd be, like, oh, okay
That's Michael. Jordan Michael jordan's career was ninety one percent sixteen.
Footers but you get the highlights and you're, like, oh that's,
it wasn't you. Know it's the same With. Mahomes mahomes
just doesn't miss any. Layups you go to The Super
bowls With, mahomes he always has one huge scramble late

(26:33):
in the fourth quarter Of Super bowl wins and there's
probably a, coup there's a left handed, throw or there's
a red zone player, like, okay that's. Insane you get
about three of them of his thirty four. Dropbacks that's.

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Speaker 1 (27:33):
There Miami dolphins have Fired mike. McDaniel keep your eye
On John harbaugh at least over the, weekend watching what
happens In, buffalo watching what happens through THE nfl. Playoffs
but The New York, GIANTS i felt had the number
two job opening To baltimore. Yesterday but The giants have A,

(27:58):
Gm miami does, not And harball if he takes that,
job he'll get the pick AT. Gm harbaugh's history they like,
personnel say extensive, personnel Say jmack with the, News.

Speaker 8 (28:14):
Turn on the.

Speaker 2 (28:15):
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Speaker 7 (28:17):
News all, Right colin a couple weeks, ago there was
a report about a potential coaching.

Speaker 3 (28:23):
Swap remember there.

Speaker 7 (28:24):
Was A stefanski for McDaniel. Trade we kind of laughed it, off,
like come, on that stuff doesn't. Happen, well, Interestingly mike
McDaniel was fired. Today stefanski had previously been fired by The.
Browns is there a world where the coaches end up
in the opposite? Teams according to a report From brown's

(28:45):
beat Writer mary Kay, cabot that could. Happen mike McDaniel
is a guy that The browns want to interview for
their head coaching. JOB i didn't think there was any
possibility of. This do you think McDaniel is clamoring to
coach Either Dylan Gabe real.

Speaker 3 (29:00):
Or shdu Or.

Speaker 1 (29:01):
SANDERS i Think mike McDaniel is one of those. Guys
if he took a year, off is, that first of,
all there's gonna be seven job openings next year in the,
Cycle is that his resume overtime rule will wear, well
you will forget his last year that was a. Mess

(29:22):
you'll go back and got he got two o of
the playoffs twice with a BAD. Gm SO i think
sometimes and coaches aren't good at.

Speaker 3 (29:30):
This take a deep.

Speaker 1 (29:31):
BREATH i Mean Mike rabel took a year, off he
had more power a year.

Speaker 7 (29:36):
Later, well he had done a lot In. Tennessee they
with a number one. Seed you, know has McDaniel done
enough to warrant another head.

Speaker 1 (29:42):
Coaching, job, BECAUSE i mean he made the playoffs for
an organization that doesn't make the.

Speaker 3 (29:47):
Playoffs, Mokay SO.

Speaker 7 (29:48):
I would ask you what's the what's the primary difference between,
Say Cliff kingsbury who made the playoffs With Kyler marie In,
arizona And mike McDaniel In. Miami are they similar just
offensive guys who MAYBE i can't be that alpha in
the locker room and be That Dan campbell pounding the
table coming.

Speaker 1 (30:04):
Out there's some. Similarities, NO i think there's probably some.
Similarities they're great play, designer play, Callers they're not necessarily
great culture, guys AND i think the legends of the
game are mostly culture. Guys Andy, reid you, Know brady
talked about. This Andy reid is an. Exception shanahan's an.

(30:24):
Exception but you know a lot of guys are just
their walk around. Guys they walk around they coach the.
Coaches so BUT i mean making the playoffs. TWICE i,
mean if you're going to Fire, stefanski WHO i think
is considered two Time coach of the, year a better
version of, McDaniel why would you do?

Speaker 3 (30:44):
That why not just Keep? Stefanski?

Speaker 7 (30:46):
Right, so which leads me to my next. Question, colin
if you're Advising mike McDaniel and you're, like Hey, Man
brown's job, opening do you want? It you could be
the head, coach or you could go be THE oc
Of Jaden daniels In washington or THE oc Of Jared
goff In? Detroit is that more attractive than the head
coach of The browns with like no, quarterback like a

(31:08):
kind of a bad quarterback, situation that's a tough. ONE
i don't know what you'd advise them to.

Speaker 1 (31:12):
DO i Think arizona And cleveland and are not good.

Speaker 6 (31:16):
Jobs Or.

Speaker 7 (31:17):
Tennessee i'm, Sorry tennessee's can be a little bit.

Speaker 1 (31:20):
Political everybody that Leaves, tennessee you ever notice they? Flourish
Derrick henry Aj, Brown Kevin. Bayern have you ever noticed
that everybody that leaves is? Great it's got a little
bit of A jets feel to. It why why why
aren't they as good In? Tennessee why Does rabel leaves?
IMMEDIATELY i, mean look At rabel leaves home, run Aj,

(31:42):
Brown Kevin, Bayern Derrick. Henry why is that?

Speaker 6 (31:46):
That?

Speaker 1 (31:46):
Everybody it's a pretty, good pretty good idea that things
aren't right when people leave your company and. Elevate you,
know for years and years people Left New england and
they didn't they. Disappeared Randy boss is the greatest. Player
he Leaves hiss.

Speaker 3 (32:05):
Like well where Did randy?

Speaker 1 (32:06):
Go like The Dion branch wide. Receiver, oh guy's. Amazing
he Leaves tom, well not quite the same. Receiver so
IT'S i THINK i just don't Think tennessee's, wired, Right.

Speaker 7 (32:19):
Okay all, right let's move back to The John harball.
Story he left The ravens or The ravens dumb tim
after eighteen seasons after that Brutal week eighteen. Loss i'm just,
curious colun do you think he's still coaching If Tyler
lup makes the field goal and The ravens.

Speaker 1 (32:34):
Advanced to The playhtsburgh has shown no indication they are
comfortable with changing coaches in the last thirty.

Speaker 3 (32:39):
Years they's just.

Speaker 1 (32:40):
Not what they, Do Chuck, Noll Bill, Kauer Mike. Tomlin
it's almost by league. Standards it's.

Speaker 7 (32:46):
Nuts, yeah you wonder if things would have been. Flipped but,
Anyways Mike tomlin went On The Rich Eisen show and
talked about his Guy harbaugh and their.

Speaker 9 (32:54):
Relationship our stories will forever, be you, know interwoven just
why we've been fortunate and honored enough to be a
part Of i've just got so much respect for him
and how he's gone about his, business and we've certainly
had some legendary battles over the, years you, know in
terms of him being let go. UNFORTUNATELY i just think

(33:15):
it's a component component of today's sport.

Speaker 1 (33:18):
Culture, yeah and people some people push back and they,
said well he was there for eighteen. Years, yeah But
tomlin's right. There you wouldn't even have a considered firing
him fifteen years ago because he has an off season
When lamar is. HURT i do think these owners are
now multi billionaires and they're more impulsive and more willing

(33:40):
to write big checks to get rid of an entire
room of high paid.

Speaker 3 (33:43):
Employees.

Speaker 7 (33:44):
YEAH i, mean it's not, sexy but it makes sense to, Say,
Listen harbaugh had run its course In. Baltimore he's going
to work somewhere. Else it's just it had gotten stale.
THERE i, mean clearly something happened with him And. Lamar
i'm waiting for that story to come, out calling because,
like you don't Leave Lamar jackson in the, contender do.

Speaker 6 (34:01):
You?

Speaker 1 (34:03):
Well it sounds Like Steve bushatti and his front office,
disagreed But Steve bushatti made the. Call WHAT i read
yesterday is the guys around the, office the executives were,
like we should keep, him that's not the issue, here
And bashati overruled his front. Office Steve bushotti's actually very.
Involved i've been told this for, years very involved In.

(34:25):
Baltimore but he's smart, enough Unlike Jerry, jones to not
make it public how involved.

Speaker 7 (34:31):
He, now, listen will you AND i agree on This harball.
Stuff there are some people who are, saying, listen, man
you talk about blown leads In shanahan never coming. BACK i,
mean look At harbaugh's history of blown double digit leads
in the fourth quarter the last couple of. Years he's
got this deep analytics, team and does he listen to.
THEM i don't are The Derrick henry not carrying.

Speaker 3 (34:48):
Stuff, no they've had some hard game plans in big.

Speaker 7 (34:51):
Spots how about That chief's game in THE afc title
game at home a couple of years. AGO i MEAN
i remember BECAUSE i lost money on. Them but you came,
in you watched the game, Plan you're, like what do
you guys? Doing what was? Happening and you can't always
blame THE Oc, anyways final, story Col let's go To Mike,
rabel who orchestrated an amazing turnaround In New england from
four and thirteen to fourteen and three win THE Afc.

(35:11):
EAST i think you kind of sort of called, this
but he does not want his team to be, satisfied
satisfied with just the Playoff. Berth here he is talking.

Speaker 8 (35:19):
Yesterday we need to embrace the preparation AND i wanted
to continue to, enjoy you, know the execution and everything
that goes on with. Us i'm excited and excited for
these guys to prepare, them excited to coach.

Speaker 6 (35:33):
Them so AND i hope that.

Speaker 8 (35:36):
We're locked in every week and imagine we'll we'll get
everything we ch ad out of.

Speaker 3 (35:41):
Them, yeah we'll.

Speaker 1 (35:43):
See it's the last game On sunday and Then. Monday
you Got Steelers. Texans it's my.

Speaker 3 (35:50):
Last.

Speaker 1 (35:51):
UH i don't know IF i can pull the.

Speaker 3 (35:53):
Trigger it's the numbers three and a.

Speaker 1 (35:54):
HALF i will take the charges BECAUSE i do think
it's going to be low, scoring.

Speaker 3 (35:59):
Very, low forty three to.

Speaker 7 (36:00):
Twenty he can't tell what my favorite game. Is it
should Be Eagles.

Speaker 3 (36:03):
Niners, oh that's my favorite.

Speaker 7 (36:04):
GAME i want it to. BE i Just i'm worried
about my Guy. Brock Perty you remember he by the,
way he got hurt at the very end of That seattle.
Game he's laying on the field writhing in. Pain now
he's got to Face Jalen carter and. COMPANY a little
nervous For. Brock it seems to get binged. Up. Alf
you need to fix that offensive. Line.

Speaker 3 (36:22):
Okay jmack with the.

Speaker 2 (36:23):
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Speaker 7 (36:37):
App, saturday it's A big twelve showdown as twenty second
Rank kansas takes On West. VIRGINIA i had Noon eastern
only On.

Speaker 1 (36:46):
Fox we were talking earlier today about how The San
francisco forty Nine ers and the numbers are just like
so crazy Since Kyle shanahan took over The.

Speaker 3 (36:58):
Niners they're just not.

Speaker 1 (36:59):
Good trailing by a, touchdown just a touchdown at, halftime
they just don't. Win and they absolutely worst in the.
League don't win trailing by a touchdown in the fourth.
QUARTER i, mean they're Below tennessee and they're Below arizona
And carolina trailing by seven plus points in the fourth

(37:20):
quarter since twenty. Seventeen just think about. That worse Than,
cleveland the worst than The. Jets AND i Asked Tom
brady about that sort of random stat what does it speak?

Speaker 5 (37:33):
Of the important part to realize in all this is
every team is built a specific. Way the forty Nine
ers have always been built to run the, football to
play good, defense and use a lot of play action
paths to get.

Speaker 6 (37:48):
Explosives the strength their team is.

Speaker 5 (37:50):
Thrown to the halfback throwing the ball to the tight,
end and it's not kind of maybe what we see
in a Traditional Kyle shanahan. Offense it doesn't mean they
can't come, BACK i. DO i think it's difficult with
some of these, systems so that are built on the
run game and play action pass to come.

Speaker 1 (38:06):
Back for the, Record that's what The seahawks are built.
On it's that run, game And darnold's a very effective
play action pass. Quarterback so what did The seahawks Do
jmack at the trade? Deadline Rashid sahit a deep. Threat
that's WHY Aj brown is still around In. Philadelphia the deep.
Threat so if you do trail, late you have the

(38:28):
home run. Hitter so it's like having power in. Baseball
you're not going to get to The World series because
you have the most home. Runs but if you trail
late in The World series and you're facing elite, pitching
there is one way to score three runs, quickly and
that's a couple of guys on and Somebody Darren Judge.
Jackson SO i Think seattle is a prime. Example seattle
is closer offensively to what The niners do than what

(38:50):
The rams. Do and so What seattle did at the
trade deadline is we need an over the top. Threat
he may have two targets a, game but punt, return
kick return over the. Top AND i Think San francisco
that's Why Brandon ayuk not being here is a. Problem
A yuk was the problem solver for. Them lighton, game.

Speaker 7 (39:08):
By the, way that's shaheep punt return against The. Rams
that was. Massive it felt like game over at that.
Point i'll add One jacksonville went out and Got Jacobe.
Myers he has totally transformed that. Offense they stole him for.
Peanuts Travis hunter goes out And Jacoby myers is a.
Beast they've now got like a three headed monster. Receiver
jacksonville's similar, vibes like IF i told you The Super

(39:30):
bowl Maybe jacksonville And, seattle you would say makes.

Speaker 1 (39:34):
Sense and two quarterbacks first rounders who were really doubted
until like now five minutes. Ago, YEAH i Mean Sam.
Donald Even Sam donald last year was. Doubted nobody really
bought into. It now this year you're kind of suck, saying,
okay it's pretty. Good, yeah if you're A Sam donald
denier at this, POINT i mean two, staffs two, teams

(39:56):
two different receiving, groups and he's been.

Speaker 6 (39:59):
Great.

Speaker 7 (39:59):
Now, Listen laura has had his chance in the playoffs
a couple of years ago Against Patrick mahomes and it,
was you, know a middle in close, game but The
chiefs was just too. GOOD i think there's a chance
he Outplays Josh allen in this. Game Josh allen has
to do everything For buffalo to have a. Chance the defense.
Stinks he's got to do, offense, running. Passing Trevor lawrence
just has to convert some third downs against kind of
a bad.

Speaker 3 (40:18):
Defense it's one of those.

Speaker 1 (40:20):
GAMES i think there are two Teams buffalo has lived
of second half. Comebacks, yeah that is really hard in
the playoffs because the problem with that Is jacksonville's got
a two headed run, game and The bills struggle versus
the run. Game SO i, LEAD i lead seventeen to

(40:41):
seven and a. HALF i get the second half, Kickoff we're
going to run the. Football we're just gonna melk the.
Clock so that's the issue With buffalo is when you
are a slow starting team and you struggle against the
run and you're on the road with versus an effective run.
Team you can See, jacksonville you, know get that second

(41:03):
half kickoff with a lead and just, say, guys we're screening,
it we're running. It we're just gonna play keep.

Speaker 7 (41:08):
Away i'm with. You JAG's first HALF i think is
the great. BET i don't know what's gonna happen With
Josh allen in the second. Half does he put on
The superman?

Speaker 1 (41:17):
Cake, well that's what he, does and you know it terrifies.
Me you got to cover every blade of. Grass it's.
Hard he's gonna make, plays all. Right Greg cosell moved
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