Colin dives into Where Colin Was Right, Where Colin Was Wrong – from calling Matthew Stafford and the Rams' performance to owning up to a misstep about Dodgers phenom Shohei Ohtani
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Speaker 1 (00:24):
Hassle back five minutes away two good Monday night football
games tonight. At game seven tonight for the Seattle Mariners,
we'll take on the country of Canada to see if
we get a Dodgers Mariners Paul five Jmac. You know,
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over the course of a week, I have a lot
of opinions, many miss the mark. And this is the
moment where I stand in front of America and am
a little bit of a dart board. It's called Colin Wright.
Colin wrong. And here we go on a Monday where
Colin was right.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
Well.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
I played blind resume with bow Knicks Friday. Remember that
We all thought that was kind of fun Blind Resume,
and I said, with bow Knicks, he's really good.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
He's a franchise quarterback.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
He's just inconsistent, but he just became the first player
ever to have two rushing touchdowns and two passing touchdowns
in a quarter. The last five possessions for bow knicks
against the great defense touchdown, touchdown, touchdown, touchdown.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
Field goal.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
He's really athletic under fifteen yards, really accurate, can struggle
with the deep ball is not there yet. But he
is a franchise quarterback. And that's all I've said. Where
Colin was raw, last year's Washington Commander's magic has evaporated.
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I thought they'd be a playoff team for a decade.
They feel a little old and a little slow. They're
now three and four and here comes the Chiefs, the Seahawks,
and the Lions. Nothing is The defense's mid run game
is okay. Jaden Daniels is banged up. But there wasn't
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fifteen minutes yesterday where I didn't think Dak was in
control of that game. I missed on the Commanders. I
did not think it was a one off. I thought
it was a new era, and maybe it will be,
but it's not now. Where Colin was right, I've said
Sean McVay is the second best coach in Pro football.
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The Rams fly in Saturday. It's a twenty four hour business.
Trip with no Puka Nakua, and it was one of
the more crisp efficient, detailed game plans. Ever, how many
tight ends did they throw to? They had two rookies
catching touchdown passes. And Stafford, as we've said, is the
best pure pocket guy in the league. I mean, you
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were watching a well oiled organization against the Jags, and
after the Jags beat Kansas City, I said, this is
not sustainable. This is not a well run, well oiled operation.
I thought, Stafford, if he doesn't make the Hall of Fame,
he's the greatest player in this league. Not in the
Hall of Fame because he is magic, missing his star
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throwing the seventh round wide receivers in London and they
were jet laged and got in Saturday for a Sunday
game where Colin was wrong. I was wrong on Shoe
a Otani. I just said he was better than Babe Ruth.
I didn't say he's the best team sport athlete ever.
He won MVP of that series for one great game,
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six innings, two hit ball, ten strikeouts. Does he have
the best split finger in the sport? He's throwing a hundred.
He had more hits Friday against Milwaukee than he surrendered,
and one of those balls that he hit appears to
have left the stadium.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
Here it is right hander Patrick dials at old Tani towering.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Wall his right field.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
He's done it again.
Speaker 5 (04:05):
Show hal Tani to the top of the pavilion in
right field four hundred and sixty nine feet, the longest
home run at Dodgers Stadium this year.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
Freddie Freeman's reaction, what did.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
I just watch? Where Colin was right said about three
weeks ago, the Indianapolis Cults are for real. They should
be undefeated. They had the Rams beat running back, wide receiver,
tight end. They have Pro bowlers. O line has to
be top three in the league. They ran over the Chargers,
and I know LA's beat up on the offensive line,
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but I've been defending Chris Ballard for years. I'm like, folks,
this roster's good. There are stars in every unit. This
is a really, really good team. They just needed a quarterback.
They've got one, and they hammered Harvon Herbert.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Yesterday where Colin was wraw.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
I'm not saying it's all his fault, but cam Ward
feels a little collogy right now. He's doing a little
hero ball a lot of mistakes. He's trying to force
plays I listen. I don't know who to blame. It
feels a little like Caleb last year in Chicago. It's
not a very good staff, but he's been sacked thirty times.
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Doesn't have a great feel for the pocket, more picks
than touchdowns, one in six record. I didn't think it
would look like this. I for a long time until
the last week before the season. I said they could
be a playoff team. Then I bailed on it. It's
ugly where Colin was right. Well, we predicted I did.
I said Notre Dame in cold Weather would beat USC
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by ten, and they would beat them soundly because they
would run all over USC. And that's exactly what they
did for the record. Jeremiah Love is going to be
a first round running back. He may not be Bjean Robinson,
but he's close. Nine and a half yards of carry.
The kid's great. USC had some weird play calling. They
were okay on offense, but this was a bad matchup
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off that Michigan game. The Irish had three hundred and
six yards rushing and Lincoln Riley has not proven the
ability to be tough good running teams on the road.
He hasn't done it in four years at USC where
Colin was right, Tua is toast. I did not get
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at any level the extension. I don't get how they
built the team. If you have Tua, you have to
have a good offensive line. You have to build it
around the running game, and he can throw on play action.
I thought he looked frightened yesterday. That you know, we
all know he's not a cold weather quarterback. But four
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times this year he's been under two hundred yards. I'm
not blaming it all on him, but I am blaming
the Dolphins on extending him when he had concussion concerns.
Quarterback need help, cam wardon Tua haven't had a lot
of it, But it's got to look better than what
I've seen this year with Tua and with that eighteen
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years in the league. Matt Hasselbeck is joining us live
on a Monday. All right, let's start. I mean I
compared bon Nicks yesterday. Klay Thompson of the Warriors once
had thirty seven points in a quarter. That doesn't make
him Steph Curry, it doesn't make him KD, but it
makes him damn good. So if you could score thirty
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three points in a quarter as a quarterback. I'm not
giving you all the credit, but there is some There
is something about bon Nicks. You know, a lot of
guys hang their head, and I thought Jackson Dart looked
really good. But I mean, what do you make of
a quarterback that is so bad early and so amazing late.
Speaker 6 (07:47):
He's got great confidence to stay in there.
Speaker 7 (07:49):
You know, the coach has confidence in him, and he's
got his own confidence. That was an incredible game. I mean,
if you haven't seen that game, go rewatch it. It
was absolutely incredible one for the ages. Yeah, they start
the ball in the red zone in the fourth quarter,
but it was great play by Bonix and he got
a little bit lucky too, which I think you need
that as well. But I think he's a better, way
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better than advertised runner. You know, the two touchdown runs
that he had were incredible. But I just think if
you were to like lock up one thing something you
cannot test for at the combine, it's that no flinch
gene that some quarterbacks have and other quarterbacks don't.
Speaker 6 (08:24):
And I think he's.
Speaker 7 (08:24):
Weathered the storm of you know, ups and downs. In
his college career. He played at a bunch of different places.
He's way more mature than you know someone with his
years of experience in the NFL. But he's got a
coach that also believes in him, and I think he
got him back in rhythm with some screenplays, maybe even
a little bit of quarterback run game and it was
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just incredible. I thought both quarterbacks were excellent yesterday, really
really fun game to watch.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
I will say this about Jackson Dart and to your point,
I thought that what we thought was going to be
a game winning drive. Jackson Dart's a better pro than
I thought. I watched them at all, miss Laying Kiffin,
and he was hot and cold. He doesn't make a
lot of it. He had one really bad pass. Again,
it's Denver, it's an aggressive defense. I'm just gonna give
you a bad throw. You're not playing perfect against that
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pass rush forget it. I thought Jackson Dart was really impressive.
What say you absolutely?
Speaker 7 (09:19):
I mean, and he's given Giants fans hope something they
haven't had in a long time. My favorite thing, listen,
just because he threw that interception that you know, ultimately
was one of the plays that led to their loss.
Like in the long run, this is going to be
great for his career. It's gonna be great for it.
Like every quarterback you throw an interception, you never ever
forget it. I'm fifty years old, I still remember an
interception and you know whatever year that like saved me
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from other you know, you know, led me to other
big successes because of that one mistake. And you listen
to him at Jackson Dart at the podium, he was incredible.
It wasn't oh, we can't turn the ball over it there.
It was like, no, that's that's me. That's that's I
have to do better. Like a lot of I you know,
taken blame not we. You hear, we had a way
too many quarterbacks at the podium. It's not we, dude,
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you threw the pick.
Speaker 6 (10:04):
It was you.
Speaker 7 (10:05):
And that's what That was the thing I loved about
Jackson like it was almost like he was brought to
tears over it even day ball, Like this team is
going to rally around this quarterback. I mean they already
have so like I'd listen. I know it's a loss,
and I don't want to be a moral victory guy,
but with a young quarterback, this is something. It's a
huge step I mean, this is something where the locker
room is going to love him, the league's gonna respect him.
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I thought it was a really great game to watch
two young quarterbacks.
Speaker 6 (10:30):
Who are going to be playing a long time in
my opinion.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
So I'm interested to hear this. Whenever you go to
a game, it's different than just watching TV. Even watch
on the twenty two film when you're live. I remember
watching Bo Nix and Michael Pennock's live in Husky Stadium,
and I sat in a couple of different places, and
it really gives you perspective on do they see the field?
You know, live is different. So you're live yesterday, you're
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watching Drake may So on television. He looks amazing and accurate.
What did you see that I can't because you're there.
Speaker 6 (11:00):
I think it's a good team. Patriots are pretty good.
Speaker 7 (11:02):
I mean I think they're not getting a lot of respect,
not getting a lot of talk. A bunch of veterans
that aren't necessarily superstars, especially in their passing game and
their running game.
Speaker 6 (11:12):
It's very much a committee offense.
Speaker 7 (11:14):
Drake's special though, He's got special special throws in his game.
Speaker 6 (11:18):
My concern for him is just protecting himself.
Speaker 7 (11:22):
He's a great athlete, and I think you know, even
yesterday he ended up in the blue tent unnecessarily.
Speaker 6 (11:28):
You know, I had a quarterback coach.
Speaker 7 (11:29):
He basically would say things like, hey, can we have
less adventure.
Speaker 6 (11:33):
On our throwaways? Can we have less adventure when you
decide to run the ball?
Speaker 7 (11:37):
And I think that's the advice I would give Drake
May is that, you know, like his best, one of
the best things that he could do for his team
has not missed any games this year, and that that
would be the one critique. But other than that, I mean,
this is this is a Josh Allen in development type
of player.
Speaker 6 (11:53):
He's that talented.
Speaker 7 (11:54):
And I think that, you know, for the Patriots, they
really feel like they got something special. And then being
there live calling it was it was basically all Patriot
fans there yesterday and the Vrabel chants were being chanted
by both Patriot fans and Titans fans. So, Mike Rabel,
I think everyone would agree he's a heck of a coach.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
Yeah, so I said this earlier. I know it's a
singular game. If Matt Stafford doesn't make the Hall of Fame,
then I think it's ridiculous. You cannot watch him to
fly in. Yeah, I mean jet lagged.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
No pooka.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
He's throwing to a seventh round rookie touchdown. He's throwing
to a rookie. Two rookies caught it. I'm listen, this
is not a great old line. Jacksonville a couple of
weeks ago led the NFL and takeaways. Jacksonville, it's their
second home. That game was Stafford was, and listen, it's
just a really good organization. As a former quarterback, when
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you watch Stafford in that arm talent, what do you see?
Speaker 6 (12:56):
Well, he's always had the arm talent.
Speaker 7 (12:57):
I mean his his problems were, you know, especially back
in the day in Detroit, getting a little sloppy with
it and you know trust in his arm arrogance is
what I think people called it back then. No, he's
unbelievably talented. He's super fun to watch. Weird things happen
overseas in these games, though, like you never know who's
going to show up.
Speaker 6 (13:16):
Like, you know, you think.
Speaker 7 (13:17):
Jacksonville would be better at it, more mature with it. No,
the Rams was it was a clinic.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
You know.
Speaker 7 (13:23):
Stafford had like five touchdowns. I think four of them though,
were like less from the five yard line game. I mean,
it was a weird stat line kind of day. He
spread the ball around great to your point, No, Puka,
I think ten different guys cub passes, great game plan, McVeigh, Stafford,
they know what they're doing.
Speaker 6 (13:39):
But it was really unique.
Speaker 7 (13:40):
I think, I like even DeVante had to get three
touchdowns for like thirty five yards.
Speaker 6 (13:45):
It's like it was a weird stat day.
Speaker 7 (13:46):
But sometimes when you're banged up and you're missing a
star player, you got to go win games in a
unique way. And I think that, you know, to your
point about a Stafford at his age, he did just
that and he did it perfectly. And you know he's
probably feeling pretty good right now, and you usually can't
say that as a veteran quarterback.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
Yeah, somebody said after the game, you may get knighted
after that, and he just said, can I get a sword?
All I care about? Can I get a sword? All
I care about? So, you know, body language matters. I
remember years ago turning on Jay Cutler and just saying,
I don't like.
Speaker 4 (14:18):
His body language.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
Like his buddies on the team don't hang around him
on the sideline. It drove me crazy, and I was
critical of Aaron sometimes in Green Bay he's by himself,
he's holding.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
I was like, I don't like that.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
But when I watched Ben Johnson watching Caleb on some
of those passes, his resting face is discouraged. I'm watching
it him like he's not gonna eye roll, he's not
gonna yell at him. But watching them yesterday, my takeaway
is Ben Johnson knows what this team is, Matt, and
it's a run team. It's a yards after the catch team,
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and it's a takeaway team. We talk about Caleb, but
he's a supporting actor here. That's what it feels like
to me is Ben's made the decision. Is we went
and got Dolmond, Joe, Tony, Jonah Jackson, We're gonna run
the football here and then, and I think it's the
right call.
Speaker 7 (15:09):
Well, I think Ben Johnson is some first time head coaches,
they sort of struggle, They learn on the fly, They
make a lot of mistakes. You say like, yeah, this guy,
he was just a coordinator. He's not really a head coach.
Speaker 6 (15:19):
I don't think anyone's feeling that way about Ben Johnson.
I think everyone feels like.
Speaker 7 (15:23):
Ben Johnson know, like the Bear's got the real deal,
Like he's the real deal. And I think he's got
great confidence in how he develops quarterbacks, what he wants
for his team, what he wants for what he wants
for his offense. And Caleb is supremely talented. So I
think that this could work. But Ben Johnson isn't really
the type, doesn't seem the kind of guy that's going
to change or adjust. It's kind of like, hey, Caleb,
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we're gonna play on time, We're gonna plan rhythm, we're
gonna run my scheme.
Speaker 6 (15:48):
I'm not gonna put training wheels on you.
Speaker 7 (15:50):
Like we're gonna take shots early and often, like it's
part of what we're doing. And if you want to
be on board, you want to do it my way,
this can work. If you want to revert back to
what you did in high school and because you were
more talented than the people around you, then maybe you're
not my guy.
Speaker 6 (16:04):
And I do think it is working.
Speaker 7 (16:06):
There are times where he kind of reverts back into
kind of what you were talking about earlier, about you
know what cam Ward is kind of reverting back to
a little bit, and sometimes it's tougher for someone who's
really talented to just play within a system. I think
that's going to be the hardest thing for this marriage,
But it could work. As long as they keep winning
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and Caleb keeps sort of buying in, I think it
could work.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
So I'm watching Kansas City. They've rebuilt their O line
three times in six years. They maybe have rebuilt their
receiving corps four times and seven years. They do a
really good job I think of identifying their mistakes and
quickly course correcting. Is that I mean, I know great
gms in this league who would tell me privately that
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I don't want to put it out there. They're like,
oh boy, I just totally whiffed on our third round pick.
Everybody makes mistakes in this league. But I'm watching Kansas
City and I watched them, yes, nine different receivers, and
it's just like, now I look at their receiving corps
three weeks ago, it's a mess.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
Now, I'm like, is that the deepest in the league.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
In all your years in the NFL, you had really
good coaches and really smart people. If a coach did
make a mistake or a GM did make a mistake,
were you ever in meetings where people just said, we're.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
Going to course correct. This doesn't work.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
This does because I feel like Kansas City is constantly fluid.
They're constantly because they pay Ma Homes, Chris Jones and
Kelsey Right, they've got to take They got to bring
Juju Smith.
Speaker 4 (17:33):
Back, let him go, they got to bring him back.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
What do you make of what they've done to this
receiving corp in the last three years now, it looks
like it's the deepest in the league.
Speaker 6 (17:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (17:43):
Well, as as a player, I never needed someone to
take accountability at the podium, Like I didn't care if
the head coach or the GM or anybody got to
the podium and said it. But I cared greatly and
I think all my teammates did of what was said
in the locker room, what was said in the team
meeting room when a coach or the organization and like,
you know says hey are bad.
Speaker 6 (18:02):
You know, like we love that, we love that.
Speaker 7 (18:05):
I thought what was really interesting about the Chiefs, Like,
I think the Chiefs have one of the best cultures
of any organization in sports in terms of like, hey,
we're in this together. It's us against the world, even
though the world's really not against you.
Speaker 6 (18:17):
You mentioned it. Nine different guys caught the ball, however, like.
Speaker 7 (18:22):
The number one targeted guy I think with ten targets
was Rashi Rice. Like, this is a guy that you know,
whatever you might feel about him in that locker room,
that is our brother, that is our teammate, that is
our guy. And they had a concerted effort from the
ten yard line, from the five yard line, screens to him,
push passes to him. Welcome back, number four, Here we go.
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You're our guy. You know, we were going wherever you
help take us. Like that's that's an effort that the
locker room rallies around. And you saw it in the
play calling. You saw my home. In fact, Mahome's two
worst plays that probably should have been picked were when
he was forcing the ball to Rashi Rice. He's got
an effort to make, you know, bring the guy along,
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get back right away.
Speaker 6 (19:04):
I don't know.
Speaker 7 (19:05):
There's just something special about when a team comes together
that way, from top to bottom and top to bottom.
And then I when I say bottom, I'm talking quarterback,
franchise quarterback, that's not really bottom.
Speaker 8 (19:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
Finally, every time I watch the Packers, they leave me
wanting just a little more, and I'm like, I like him.
They are super young, like Seattle. I understand it's a process.
They may look different in twelve weeks. Yesterday, I'm like, Okay,
why does Jacoby Brissett look like Joe Montana? Why is
he completing balls?
Speaker 3 (19:36):
Why?
Speaker 1 (19:37):
And then I think, well, Arizona at home, they've got McBride,
they've got good players, looks like Larry Fitzgerald. Harrison excuse me,
Marvin Harrison now is developing into something?
Speaker 3 (19:47):
It is?
Speaker 1 (19:48):
Do team do young teams? I mean, every time I
watch Green Bay, I'm like, Okay, why aren't they winning
this comfortably? Or am I overvaluing their talent?
Speaker 3 (19:58):
Well?
Speaker 7 (19:59):
I think they're young. I mean Green Bay's a young team.
Jordan Love has got great potential, but I think we
just think automatically. He's like, hey, why aren't you playing
like favarn Aaron Rodgers, Like, you know, it's just what
Packer quarterbacks do.
Speaker 6 (20:10):
He's still a young player.
Speaker 7 (20:11):
I think defensively, you know, they've got a new defensive
coordinator somewhat new, and Jeff Athley hasn't been there that long.
Speaker 6 (20:17):
And I think, you know, they played great last year.
Speaker 7 (20:20):
He started out great this year, they add Michael Parsons,
They're trying to figure out the pieces. I think this
is a good team parody in the NFL, it's a
real thing, and especially in that division. I think a
lot of people had the Minnesota Vikings if JJ McCarthy
was going to be a guy, it's like, Oh, the.
Speaker 6 (20:35):
Vikings is going to take that division. It's not. You know,
now you got.
Speaker 7 (20:37):
The Bears are probably overachieving. The Lions are great. Packers
took it to the Lions week one. You know, I
do think that this is a team that I wouldn't
be afraid to say, this is a playoff team that
could really do something special. But yeah, I guess, I guess.
I hear what you're saying with the Arizona game. But
Arizona to me is just always been this like spoiler team.
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I don't care who you are. If you're the Rams,
if you're the Seahawks, if you know, like you.
Speaker 6 (21:04):
Go down there.
Speaker 7 (21:05):
It's a that's a tough that's sort of a tough game.
Usually it's Kyler and not Jacoby. But I'm not I'm
not giving up on Jordan Love. I think this this
team will hit their stride at the right time. But
I get your fans, I get you, I get your
feelings with that, and I'm sure Packer fans somewhat agree
with you.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
By the way, you went to Boston College. The UCLA Bruins,
you are bandwagoning.
Speaker 4 (21:29):
Just suddenly they are red hot.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
You study, they let go of their coach, they bring
in the assistance. They're on fire as a program. It
is amazing to watch Sometimes in college football. I'm like,
it's a totally different juice, totally different vibe with UCLA,
is it not.
Speaker 7 (21:47):
Yeah, Well, for the record, I am a UCLA parent
now and my son is on that football team. But
uh no, then listen, it's a real thing. And I've
been a part.
Speaker 6 (21:55):
Of coaching changes when they happen on the fly.
Speaker 7 (21:58):
I mean it's you either all the party, you pull together,
and this UCLA team is for sure pulled together, winning
three in a row.
Speaker 6 (22:05):
I think big newon kickoffs.
Speaker 7 (22:07):
Going to Indiana this week, so that'll be a big
one Indiana versus UCLA. The games aren't going to get
easier in that Big ten matchup. But no, it's a
real deal.
Speaker 6 (22:15):
I learned it.
Speaker 7 (22:16):
I learned it in college with many head coaching changes
I learned it in the NFL with head coaching changes.
It's part of what makes sports great and unpredictable.
Speaker 6 (22:25):
And for all you.
Speaker 7 (22:27):
Betters out there, I would never bet on a team
with an against a team with an interim head coach.
Speaker 6 (22:32):
It's like a blind date. No one loves those going
up against those types of opponents.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
Good for you, Indiana's good, by the way.
Speaker 6 (22:44):
To put it mildly, They're good. They're good.
Speaker 4 (22:48):
Hey, great seeing you a man?
Speaker 6 (22:50):
All right? See you call it?
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Yeah, Matt when he comes to Los Angeles to visit
his kids as a proud dad, and it is remarkable
to watch UCLA. So they the head coach, a former
player there, leaves and they, you know, Jerry Neuheisel, who
sounds exactly like his dad and looks like his dad.
(23:12):
They have just turned it around, just brand same kids,
different energy, and that game suddenly got really really interesting.
So Game seven tonight, Mariners and the Blue Jays. One
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Speaker 4 (24:20):
Colin right? Colin wrong? Threday halfway through Jmack with a news.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
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Speaker 3 (24:29):
All right, Colin.
Speaker 10 (24:30):
In a battle of the best running backs in the
league last night, Christian McCaffrey outdueled by a mile twenty Wow.
Semac was running wild, just great, catching the ball, dancing.
It's crazy. He looks way better than Saquon Barkley does
this year. I don't know what's wrong with Saquon. We
knew that it was a heavy load last year that
he burdened but by far, Christian McCaffrey has eclipped Saquon Barkley.
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I think he's right there with Bijeon as the best
back in the league. And Kyle Shanahan talked about that performance.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
He's huge.
Speaker 8 (25:01):
I mean, he's he's the most consistent player I've been around.
I mean, he just allows you to stay on track.
He gets every yard in the run game in more
and what he does in the pass game just it's
sure you're gonna throw the ball to him and not
get to complete him.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
He could be a slot receiver in the NFL. I
mean he's that gifted. He really.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
I mean, Barry Sanders, Walter Payton, McCaffrey to me are
just different. You could put him out wide, you can
put him in. I mean he had thirty one total
touches in the game. I think he had twenty. I
think he had twenty four carries and seven catches.
Speaker 4 (25:34):
I mean that that to me.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
Is way too much of a workload for a guy.
I don't love that. But twenty more carries in the
NFL is a lot of carry.
Speaker 10 (25:43):
Yeah, they're starting to work Brian Robinson and more of
the kid they got from Washington and maybe he's up to.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
Speed with the offense.
Speaker 10 (25:48):
I'll just say this, they kind of need him because
Kittle's not there yet. You know, he didn't do anything
last night. Jawan Jennings has a pass go off his hands,
it's intercepted. Brandon Ayuk still missing in action, Ricky Pierce
all the longest knee injury in NFL history. When they
get healthy and I saw they have the late by
Colin Man, a new team could use a bye like
the Niners now, I mean, they're just bringing guys off
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the street and trying to plug them in and make
it happen like no.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
I mean, if you look at the talented defense alone, Bosa, Hurt,
Warner Hurt, who Funga leaves, Greenlaw leaves, they bring in
Robert Sala, they're actually okay, it's a pretty darn good defense.
I mean, you name another defense that, over the course
of a calendar year could lose their four of their
I mean, Bosa, Warner, hu fung are arguably they're three
best defenders for different reasons, they're all gone. The defense
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has played. I think Sala and Shanahan you could argue
one's coordinator of the year, one's coach of the year.
I think this is as good a job mag Jones.
It's funny if you take away your initial perception of
the mean you didn't know he's kind of not sneaky athletic,
but he runs in spots. He's always thrown a nice ball.
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But I mean their offense looks like their offense. It's
very Christian McCaffrey reliant last night. But they've done a
good job to overcome these injuries. A lot of teams
get injured and they just it's man overboard. That's not
been the case.
Speaker 10 (27:08):
So if you're looking for stocks to buy in the NFL,
I think right now the Niners have to be number one.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
The schedule and all those injuries.
Speaker 10 (27:16):
I mean, they were highlighting this new middle linebacker taking
over for Warner. I know a lot of sharp betters
last night who were on Atlanta just because of the
Fred Warner injury. Right he's out, Oh, Atlanta's gonna go nuts.
I was like, Eh, I don't know about that. This
new linebacker number forty five on's facing.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
On his name. He was outstanding last night.
Speaker 10 (27:32):
So Robert Salah, like you said, probably one of the
best defensive coaches in the league.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
Awesome stuf Rushian McCaffrey has thirty one more touches this
year than Jonathan Taylor. Now the difference is Warren Pierce
Pittman are more available. So what's happening to San Francisco
is they're like, hey, this is what we have. We
would not have him touch the ball thirty one times,
it would be like eighteen. But you know their takeaway
is last night was you know the Rams had won
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in the day, right, so you're sitting there looking around, going, okay,
the Rams have a dob, you know, so you.
Speaker 4 (28:04):
Got you've gotta win.
Speaker 10 (28:06):
All right, Let's move to Denver, Colin the craziest game
of the day.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
You touched on it at the outset.
Speaker 10 (28:10):
The Giants were up nineteen nothing heading into the fourth
quarter and totally imploded. Jackson Dart's getting a pass because
he was good for most of it, but that interception
changed the game. Terrible decision. Here's Brian Daboll at a
loss for words.
Speaker 3 (28:25):
Tough way to lose.
Speaker 11 (28:29):
The way down to the end, sixty minutes and made
one more play than we did, a lot of plays
that could have changed the outcome of that game, not
just one sixty minute game. So you know it was.
It's not one play, it's not one position, it's not
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offense defense, it's collectively.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
Listen, Denver got a little lucky on that one touchdown,
that ricochetde or Jenner's got lucky to Yeah, I mean
that game ended the way it should have ended. It
was wild, you get that. I mean, we've seen a
couple of games this year that you know, Tampa Seattle
may have been the best game of the year, the
shootout Darnald Baker. This wasn't that because for three quarters
Denver's offense was in nep I did like both quarterbacks
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smartly using their legs. Dart and bo Nix are good athletes,
use their legs. I've said this for years. The NFL
is the windows are small, the defensive coaching is sophisticated.
You're gonna need to pick up first downs to help
your defense out. And Denver's defense was like, guys, we're
getting tired. You got to extend some drives. So I
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think when Sean Payton leaned into Bow's right, like right
here on this video, leaned into it, that's what this
kid can do.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 10 (29:48):
I kind of wish Gable had gone to the podium
and just been honest, guys, I'm messing devastated.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
We were the better team for fifty minutes.
Speaker 10 (29:54):
I can't believe that kicker missed an extra point or
we go to over Like that's the reality, Colin if
a lot of people today on these shows and podcasts
are just saying, oh, what a crazy game, Let's be real.
Denver was not good yesterday for fifteen minutes. They were
outclassed at home again by Jackson Dart who's throwing to
nobody's I mean he's throwing up Daniel Bellinger, theo Johnson.
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Denver got embarrassed. They are lucky that they pulled out.
Now two fourth quarters against the Giants and Eagles where
they were down bad.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
Remember that Eagles come back.
Speaker 4 (30:26):
Yeah, you make your own luck. I mean they're not.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
I mean that's the greatest quarter by an offense in
the history of the league, or at least by a player.
So you make your own luck. If bo Nicks wasn't mobile,
they don't win that game. He had four rushes, multiple
first downs running, he had two rushing touchdowns. So you
make a lot of your own luck. And I think
Sean Payton also in those key situational moments. Denver always
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dialed up. I mean, this is one thing that Andy Reid,
Sean Payton. Do you get into these key situational moments,
and Denver Oway was called I mean, you don't know
what's gonna happen. Is bo gonna run? Are they gonna
throw them downfield? I mean Denver's personnel, Jason, they give you.
There's a lot of looks. They're long their reign. Evan
ingram Off, Oh.
Speaker 3 (31:08):
He's a unique He's like I mean, he just doesn't.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
Look he looks like an NBA guy. He's so big
and wide. And Denver's personnel is outstanding in my opinion.
Speaker 10 (31:19):
Humor me for a secon ranked the teams in the
AFC West. You can leave the Raiders off because.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
Angel City won, Denver two, Chargers three.
Speaker 10 (31:25):
Big winner yesterday was the Chiefs because the Broncos. I mean,
this is the Jets and Giants they are struggling with.
These are dregs of the league, I know, and the
Chiefs are blasting dregs of the league.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
In thirty In fairness, Giants beat the Eagles soundly. The
Giants have had personnel. The Giants found their quarterback. Giants
have the better coach. Giants have the better quarterback, Giants
have the better left tackle, Giants have the better defensive front.
Giants strangely have the much better culture when you look
at what's happening with the Jets.
Speaker 3 (31:54):
Thanks for that. Digget the Jets.
Speaker 10 (31:55):
Final story con Let's go to tonight's game. Baker Mayfield,
Jared got two cowhard favorites dueling it out in Detroit.
We're both on the Lions. He's the line has ticked
up to six here. Michael Strahan this weekend had some
strong praise for Baker Mayfield and how he's performed so
far the season.
Speaker 12 (32:15):
The thing about Tampa, they just keep winning, and then
you look at Baker Mayfield and I'm like, this guy,
my opinion is the MVP. He's the most valuable player
in this league and to his team because at one
at points you've had God went out, yet Evan do
Abuka has been out. Those are three three top guys,
and yeah Nervy and they Bucky Irby and they still
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keep winning. So a lot of credit to Baker Mayfield.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
I think Baker does the best job of defining his team.
He's got a little pirate ship field to him. And
that's what Tampa has always been a little they're a
little loose, a little bit of a pirate ship little,
you know.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
I mean they don't.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
They've always had talent. I covered him thirty years ago.
They've always had good players. It's been the quarterback situation
when they have Baker, when they had Brady Brad Johnson
for a while, wile you know, when they've had decent
quarterback play, they They've always had the players. And I
think Baker kind of speaks to their vibe and their
culture kind of chill. You know, they're they're fun, they're
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you never quite know what you're getting with Tampa through
the years, they've been involved in crazy, wild games. I
listen when they get healthy, they're beat up. They're winning
and they're not healthy. So watch out.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
There's a Niners vibe there.
Speaker 10 (33:25):
I'm not going to bore the audience with all the
against the spread numbers. Dan Campbell off a loss, Campbell
and Goff at home, you know, like they're they're really good.
Detroit should win tonight. I'll just say this, if Tampa
pulls the upset and wins outright, that would be a
chocker to me. If Tampa wins outright and continues to
do it with all these injuries.
Speaker 3 (33:44):
Man, that that would be.
Speaker 4 (33:45):
Something Jmickla News.
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Speaker 10 (34:02):
Tonight, it's a winner take all Game seven of the
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Speaker 1 (34:20):
As a hardened journalist, an America's honesty broker, I don't
root for sides.
Speaker 4 (34:26):
Except tonight we finally witnessed it.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
The Philadelphia Eagles offense totally carried by Jalen Hurtz. They
have to because they can no longer run the football.
Last year, Saquon Barkley accounted for over one hundred yards
a game thirteen times. This year it's O for seven.
Is it Saquon fatigue? Is it O line injuries? Whatever?
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Fifty two yards per game, So it's the fewest rushing
yards by an Eagles team at this point in thirty years.
So yesterday it was I mean they basically they've transitioned
their offense. They are now a deep ball offense. They
have long dry spells. It's very New York Yankees like.
It is very home run dependent, which they're not very
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good on third down. They can't run the ball, they're
not consistent. But they hit a lot of home runs
Devontae Smith and AJ Brown outside of t Higgins and
Jamar Chase and maybe including those guys, that's the best
receiving core in the league.
Speaker 4 (35:27):
So you hope.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
Maybe this long ball, home run offense loosens up the
run game, but it doesn't.
Speaker 4 (35:36):
Kind of it doesn't.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
Kind of feel like Saquon is going to be They've
shifted their identity. They hit home runs now, no small ball,
no controlling the clock. Yesterday they barely had the football
if you turn it on in Minnesota had the ball.
So Hurts on twenty plus yard throws yesterday was five
or six with three touchdowns. So he proved that he
can do it. But it's a they have they have shifted.
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They're the opposite. The last year it is home run balls,
not moving runners across. And here's Nick Sarianni after the
win over Minnesota.
Speaker 13 (36:08):
Find a way to win and then identify issues and
get better from it. Like I know how I felt
for the last two weeks not winning, So I'm never
gonna take a win for granted. Ever Again, I think
sometimes in the in the in the midst of it,
you can be like, man, like, we'll be there, we'll
get there, Like, but we're gonna enjoy the heck out
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of this thing.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
The offense is a little doctor Jalen mister Hyde. You
don't know what you're getting half to half like Denver,
but in the end, their receiving corps is elite. Jalen
throws a beautiful deep ball, they hit on it, and
this is not what they were last year. They were
at times, but you get some you know, with this
kind of offense, like the Yankees, you get long dry spells.
Speaker 4 (36:54):
Yeah, they don't, they don't.
Speaker 3 (36:55):
You know.
Speaker 1 (36:55):
They're not running the football at all at all, and
they're not gonna win time of possession and their defense
is gonna be on the field a lot. But when
you can do what you do yesterday, I thought that
was an impressive win. All things considered, forced Carson Wentz
in the mistakes, which he's prone to do. So the
Chicago Bears are on a bit of an ugly heater.
I said earlier, Ben Johnson watching Caleb Williams sometimes has
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a resting face of discouraged, disappointed. But I think you
have to be honest about the Bears. Their interior line
is elite, their run game is excellent. They're taking the
football away. And whereas Caleb was the star of the
show offensively high school college in last year.
Speaker 4 (37:37):
That's not what he does now.
Speaker 1 (37:39):
He is a supporting actor with this Bears offense. And
here's Matt Hasselbeck talking about.
Speaker 6 (37:46):
I think that this could work.
Speaker 7 (37:48):
But Ben Johnson isn't really the type. Doesn't seem to
the kind of guy that's gonna change or adjust.
Speaker 6 (37:53):
It's kind of like a Caleb.
Speaker 7 (37:54):
We're gonna play in time, We're gonna plan rhythm, We're
gonna run my scheme. I'm not gonna put training wheels
on you. Like, we're going to take shots early and often,
like it's part of what we're doing.
Speaker 6 (38:04):
And if you want to be on board, you want
to do it my way.
Speaker 7 (38:06):
This can work if you want to revert back to
what you did in high school and college because you
were more talented than the people around you, then maybe
you're not my guy.
Speaker 4 (38:15):
Yeah there, listen.
Speaker 1 (38:16):
You can watch Ben Johnson's frustration with the pass game.
But I will argue all day long the skill people
for the Bear, DeAndre Swift, Caleb Williams, Luther Burden, Colston Lovelin,
Cole come Ot, Dj Moore. They've got really good skill people.
In fact, the last couple of weeks Yards after the
Catch they've been top three. So there's a lot of
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things to be happy about. It's a good place to
be in the NFL when you're in a four game
winning streak and aren't playing particularly well on one side
of the ball. And again, Caleb is not getting sacked
as much despite what you see there. He's cut his
saxon half. He's never been a big interception guy. So
it's not like Spencer Ratler, who just kind of felt
like he wanted to prove they're not turning it over
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a ton.
Speaker 3 (39:02):
They're winning the turnover.
Speaker 1 (39:04):
Ratio, the turnover differential, they're near the top of the league.
They're running the football, they're playing good defense, They've hit
some field goals.
Speaker 3 (39:13):
So again, I mean they're in a good space.
Speaker 1 (39:15):
It's very clear they got the right coach and they've
got the right offensive personnel. I set it with bow
Knicks earlier. I said it with Jackson Dart. I've said
it with Caleb Williams. I've said it with Michael Pennix.
You're not getting any Phoenix to Los Angeles forty five
minutes smooth flights.
Speaker 4 (39:33):
All of them have turbulence.
Speaker 1 (39:34):
You know, Patrick mahomes best talent at quarterback. Ever, that's
an outlier. Josh Allen was bumpy early. Bo Nicks has
been bumpy. This is what it looks like. Bears right
now again, are number one in turnover differential. You'd have
taken that ten weeks ago if I'd told you in August. Listen,
the run game is gonna be great. I say this
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with my wife anytimes she's in a bad mood, I said,
would you have taken this a year ago? Would you
have taken in August? Number one turnover differential? Four game
winning streak. Run game is devastating, defense is aggressive and
plan well.
Speaker 3 (40:10):
Check check, check check.
Speaker 4 (40:11):
You have taken all of them.
Speaker 1 (40:13):
And you're like the passing game it's not there, and
you're in a four game winning streak. They're not It's
not pretty, you know, And as the weather gets colder,
it gets less attractive. Wins are wins our three RG
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Speaker 1 (00:24):
Hassle back five minutes away two good Monday night football
games tonight. At game seven tonight for the Seattle Mariners,
we'll take on the country of Canada to see if
we get a Dodgers Mariners Paul five Jmac. You know,
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over the course of a week, I have a lot
of opinions, many miss the mark. And this is the
moment where I stand in front of America and am
a little bit of a dart board. It's called Colin Wright.
Colin wrong. And here we go on a Monday where
Colin was right.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
Well.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
I played blind resume with bow Knicks Friday. Remember that
We all thought that was kind of fun Blind Resume,
and I said, with bow Knicks, he's really good.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
He's a franchise quarterback.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
He's just inconsistent, but he just became the first player
ever to have two rushing touchdowns and two passing touchdowns
in a quarter. The last five possessions for bow knicks
against the great defense touchdown, touchdown, touchdown, touchdown.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
Field goal.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
He's really athletic under fifteen yards, really accurate, can struggle
with the deep ball is not there yet. But he
is a franchise quarterback. And that's all I've said. Where
Colin was raw, last year's Washington Commander's magic has evaporated.
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I thought they'd be a playoff team for a decade.
They feel a little old and a little slow. They're
now three and four and here comes the Chiefs, the Seahawks,
and the Lions. Nothing is The defense's mid run game
is okay. Jaden Daniels is banged up. But there wasn't
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fifteen minutes yesterday where I didn't think Dak was in
control of that game. I missed on the Commanders. I
did not think it was a one off. I thought
it was a new era, and maybe it will be,
but it's not now. Where Colin was right, I've said
Sean McVay is the second best coach in Pro football.
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The Rams fly in Saturday. It's a twenty four hour business.
Trip with no Puka Nakua, and it was one of
the more crisp efficient, detailed game plans. Ever, how many
tight ends did they throw to? They had two rookies
catching touchdown passes. And Stafford, as we've said, is the
best pure pocket guy in the league. I mean, you
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were watching a well oiled organization against the Jags, and
after the Jags beat Kansas City, I said, this is
not sustainable. This is not a well run, well oiled operation.
I thought, Stafford, if he doesn't make the Hall of Fame,
he's the greatest player in this league. Not in the
Hall of Fame because he is magic, missing his star
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throwing the seventh round wide receivers in London and they
were jet laged and got in Saturday for a Sunday
game where Colin was wrong. I was wrong on Shoe
a Otani. I just said he was better than Babe Ruth.
I didn't say he's the best team sport athlete ever.
He won MVP of that series for one great game,
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six innings, two hit ball, ten strikeouts. Does he have
the best split finger in the sport? He's throwing a hundred.
He had more hits Friday against Milwaukee than he surrendered,
and one of those balls that he hit appears to
have left the stadium.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
Here it is right hander Patrick dials at old Tani towering.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Wall his right field.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
He's done it again.
Speaker 5 (04:05):
Show hal Tani to the top of the pavilion in
right field four hundred and sixty nine feet, the longest
home run at Dodgers Stadium this year.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
Freddie Freeman's reaction, what did.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
I just watch? Where Colin was right said about three
weeks ago, the Indianapolis Cults are for real. They should
be undefeated. They had the Rams beat running back, wide receiver,
tight end. They have Pro bowlers. O line has to
be top three in the league. They ran over the Chargers,
and I know LA's beat up on the offensive line,
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but I've been defending Chris Ballard for years. I'm like, folks,
this roster's good. There are stars in every unit. This
is a really, really good team. They just needed a quarterback.
They've got one, and they hammered Harvon Herbert.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Yesterday where Colin was wraw.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
I'm not saying it's all his fault, but cam Ward
feels a little collogy right now. He's doing a little
hero ball a lot of mistakes. He's trying to force
plays I listen. I don't know who to blame. It
feels a little like Caleb last year in Chicago. It's
not a very good staff, but he's been sacked thirty times.
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Doesn't have a great feel for the pocket, more picks
than touchdowns, one in six record. I didn't think it
would look like this. I for a long time until
the last week before the season. I said they could
be a playoff team. Then I bailed on it. It's
ugly where Colin was right. Well, we predicted I did.
I said Notre Dame in cold Weather would beat USC
(05:44):
by ten, and they would beat them soundly because they
would run all over USC. And that's exactly what they
did for the record. Jeremiah Love is going to be
a first round running back. He may not be Bjean Robinson,
but he's close. Nine and a half yards of carry.
The kid's great. USC had some weird play calling. They
were okay on offense, but this was a bad matchup
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off that Michigan game. The Irish had three hundred and
six yards rushing and Lincoln Riley has not proven the
ability to be tough good running teams on the road.
He hasn't done it in four years at USC where
Colin was right, Tua is toast. I did not get
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at any level the extension. I don't get how they
built the team. If you have Tua, you have to
have a good offensive line. You have to build it
around the running game, and he can throw on play action.
I thought he looked frightened yesterday. That you know, we
all know he's not a cold weather quarterback. But four
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times this year he's been under two hundred yards. I'm
not blaming it all on him, but I am blaming
the Dolphins on extending him when he had concussion concerns.
Quarterback need help, cam wardon Tua haven't had a lot
of it, But it's got to look better than what
I've seen this year with Tua and with that eighteen
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years in the league. Matt Hasselbeck is joining us live
on a Monday. All right, let's start. I mean I
compared bon Nicks yesterday. Klay Thompson of the Warriors once
had thirty seven points in a quarter. That doesn't make
him Steph Curry, it doesn't make him KD, but it
makes him damn good. So if you could score thirty
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three points in a quarter as a quarterback. I'm not
giving you all the credit, but there is some There
is something about bon Nicks. You know, a lot of
guys hang their head, and I thought Jackson Dart looked
really good. But I mean, what do you make of
a quarterback that is so bad early and so amazing late.
Speaker 6 (07:47):
He's got great confidence to stay in there.
Speaker 7 (07:49):
You know, the coach has confidence in him, and he's
got his own confidence. That was an incredible game. I mean,
if you haven't seen that game, go rewatch it. It
was absolutely incredible one for the ages. Yeah, they start
the ball in the red zone in the fourth quarter,
but it was great play by Bonix and he got
a little bit lucky too, which I think you need
that as well. But I think he's a better, way
(08:09):
better than advertised runner. You know, the two touchdown runs
that he had were incredible. But I just think if
you were to like lock up one thing something you
cannot test for at the combine, it's that no flinch
gene that some quarterbacks have and other quarterbacks don't.
Speaker 6 (08:24):
And I think he's.
Speaker 7 (08:24):
Weathered the storm of you know, ups and downs. In
his college career. He played at a bunch of different places.
He's way more mature than you know someone with his
years of experience in the NFL. But he's got a
coach that also believes in him, and I think he
got him back in rhythm with some screenplays, maybe even
a little bit of quarterback run game and it was
(08:45):
just incredible. I thought both quarterbacks were excellent yesterday, really
really fun game to watch.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
I will say this about Jackson Dart and to your point,
I thought that what we thought was going to be
a game winning drive. Jackson Dart's a better pro than
I thought. I watched them at all, miss Laying Kiffin,
and he was hot and cold. He doesn't make a
lot of it. He had one really bad pass. Again,
it's Denver, it's an aggressive defense. I'm just gonna give
you a bad throw. You're not playing perfect against that
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pass rush forget it. I thought Jackson Dart was really impressive.
What say you absolutely?
Speaker 7 (09:19):
I mean, and he's given Giants fans hope something they
haven't had in a long time. My favorite thing, listen,
just because he threw that interception that you know, ultimately
was one of the plays that led to their loss.
Like in the long run, this is going to be
great for his career. It's gonna be great for it.
Like every quarterback you throw an interception, you never ever
forget it. I'm fifty years old, I still remember an
interception and you know whatever year that like saved me
(09:42):
from other you know, you know, led me to other
big successes because of that one mistake. And you listen
to him at Jackson Dart at the podium, he was incredible.
It wasn't oh, we can't turn the ball over it there.
It was like, no, that's that's me. That's that's I
have to do better. Like a lot of I you know,
taken blame not we. You hear, we had a way
too many quarterbacks at the podium. It's not we, dude,
(10:03):
you threw the pick.
Speaker 6 (10:04):
It was you.
Speaker 7 (10:05):
And that's what That was the thing I loved about
Jackson like it was almost like he was brought to
tears over it even day ball, Like this team is
going to rally around this quarterback. I mean they already
have so like I'd listen. I know it's a loss,
and I don't want to be a moral victory guy,
but with a young quarterback, this is something. It's a
huge step I mean, this is something where the locker
room is going to love him, the league's gonna respect him.
(10:27):
I thought it was a really great game to watch
two young quarterbacks.
Speaker 6 (10:30):
Who are going to be playing a long time in
my opinion.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
So I'm interested to hear this. Whenever you go to
a game, it's different than just watching TV. Even watch
on the twenty two film when you're live. I remember
watching Bo Nix and Michael Pennock's live in Husky Stadium,
and I sat in a couple of different places, and
it really gives you perspective on do they see the field?
You know, live is different. So you're live yesterday, you're
(10:53):
watching Drake may So on television. He looks amazing and accurate.
What did you see that I can't because you're there.
Speaker 6 (11:00):
I think it's a good team. Patriots are pretty good.
Speaker 7 (11:02):
I mean I think they're not getting a lot of respect,
not getting a lot of talk. A bunch of veterans
that aren't necessarily superstars, especially in their passing game and
their running game.
Speaker 6 (11:12):
It's very much a committee offense.
Speaker 7 (11:14):
Drake's special though, He's got special special throws in his game.
Speaker 6 (11:18):
My concern for him is just protecting himself.
Speaker 7 (11:22):
He's a great athlete, and I think you know, even
yesterday he ended up in the blue tent unnecessarily.
Speaker 6 (11:28):
You know, I had a quarterback coach.
Speaker 7 (11:29):
He basically would say things like, hey, can we have
less adventure.
Speaker 6 (11:33):
On our throwaways? Can we have less adventure when you
decide to run the ball?
Speaker 7 (11:37):
And I think that's the advice I would give Drake
May is that, you know, like his best, one of
the best things that he could do for his team
has not missed any games this year, and that that
would be the one critique. But other than that, I mean,
this is this is a Josh Allen in development type
of player.
Speaker 6 (11:53):
He's that talented.
Speaker 7 (11:54):
And I think that, you know, for the Patriots, they
really feel like they got something special. And then being
there live calling it was it was basically all Patriot
fans there yesterday and the Vrabel chants were being chanted
by both Patriot fans and Titans fans. So, Mike Rabel,
I think everyone would agree he's a heck of a coach.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
Yeah, so I said this earlier. I know it's a
singular game. If Matt Stafford doesn't make the Hall of Fame,
then I think it's ridiculous. You cannot watch him to
fly in. Yeah, I mean jet lagged.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
No pooka.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
He's throwing to a seventh round rookie touchdown. He's throwing
to a rookie. Two rookies caught it. I'm listen, this
is not a great old line. Jacksonville a couple of
weeks ago led the NFL and takeaways. Jacksonville, it's their
second home. That game was Stafford was, and listen, it's
just a really good organization. As a former quarterback, when
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you watch Stafford in that arm talent, what do you see?
Speaker 6 (12:56):
Well, he's always had the arm talent.
Speaker 7 (12:57):
I mean his his problems were, you know, especially back
in the day in Detroit, getting a little sloppy with
it and you know trust in his arm arrogance is
what I think people called it back then. No, he's
unbelievably talented. He's super fun to watch. Weird things happen
overseas in these games, though, like you never know who's
going to show up.
Speaker 6 (13:16):
Like, you know, you think.
Speaker 7 (13:17):
Jacksonville would be better at it, more mature with it. No,
the Rams was it was a clinic.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
You know.
Speaker 7 (13:23):
Stafford had like five touchdowns. I think four of them though,
were like less from the five yard line game. I mean,
it was a weird stat line kind of day. He
spread the ball around great to your point, No, Puka,
I think ten different guys cub passes, great game plan, McVeigh, Stafford,
they know what they're doing.
Speaker 6 (13:39):
But it was really unique.
Speaker 7 (13:40):
I think, I like even DeVante had to get three
touchdowns for like thirty five yards.
Speaker 6 (13:45):
It's like it was a weird stat day.
Speaker 7 (13:46):
But sometimes when you're banged up and you're missing a
star player, you got to go win games in a
unique way. And I think that, you know, to your
point about a Stafford at his age, he did just
that and he did it perfectly. And you know he's
probably feeling pretty good right now, and you usually can't
say that as a veteran quarterback.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
Yeah, somebody said after the game, you may get knighted
after that, and he just said, can I get a sword?
All I care about? Can I get a sword? All
I care about? So, you know, body language matters. I
remember years ago turning on Jay Cutler and just saying,
I don't like.
Speaker 4 (14:18):
His body language.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
Like his buddies on the team don't hang around him
on the sideline. It drove me crazy, and I was
critical of Aaron sometimes in Green Bay he's by himself,
he's holding.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
I was like, I don't like that.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
But when I watched Ben Johnson watching Caleb on some
of those passes, his resting face is discouraged. I'm watching
it him like he's not gonna eye roll, he's not
gonna yell at him. But watching them yesterday, my takeaway
is Ben Johnson knows what this team is, Matt, and
it's a run team. It's a yards after the catch team,
(14:52):
and it's a takeaway team. We talk about Caleb, but
he's a supporting actor here. That's what it feels like
to me is Ben's made the decision. Is we went
and got Dolmond, Joe, Tony, Jonah Jackson, We're gonna run
the football here and then, and I think it's the
right call.
Speaker 7 (15:09):
Well, I think Ben Johnson is some first time head coaches,
they sort of struggle, They learn on the fly, They
make a lot of mistakes. You say like, yeah, this guy,
he was just a coordinator. He's not really a head coach.
Speaker 6 (15:19):
I don't think anyone's feeling that way about Ben Johnson.
I think everyone feels like.
Speaker 7 (15:23):
Ben Johnson know, like the Bear's got the real deal,
Like he's the real deal. And I think he's got
great confidence in how he develops quarterbacks, what he wants
for his team, what he wants for what he wants
for his offense. And Caleb is supremely talented. So I
think that this could work. But Ben Johnson isn't really
the type, doesn't seem the kind of guy that's going
to change or adjust. It's kind of like, hey, Caleb,
(15:44):
we're gonna play on time, We're gonna plan rhythm, we're
gonna run my scheme.
Speaker 6 (15:48):
I'm not gonna put training wheels on you.
Speaker 7 (15:50):
Like we're gonna take shots early and often, like it's
part of what we're doing. And if you want to
be on board, you want to do it my way,
this can work. If you want to revert back to
what you did in high school and because you were
more talented than the people around you, then maybe you're
not my guy.
Speaker 6 (16:04):
And I do think it is working.
Speaker 7 (16:06):
There are times where he kind of reverts back into
kind of what you were talking about earlier, about you
know what cam Ward is kind of reverting back to
a little bit, and sometimes it's tougher for someone who's
really talented to just play within a system. I think
that's going to be the hardest thing for this marriage,
But it could work. As long as they keep winning
(16:26):
and Caleb keeps sort of buying in, I think it
could work.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
So I'm watching Kansas City. They've rebuilt their O line
three times in six years. They maybe have rebuilt their
receiving corps four times and seven years. They do a
really good job I think of identifying their mistakes and
quickly course correcting. Is that I mean, I know great
gms in this league who would tell me privately that
(16:51):
I don't want to put it out there. They're like,
oh boy, I just totally whiffed on our third round pick.
Everybody makes mistakes in this league. But I'm watching Kansas
City and I watched them, yes, nine different receivers, and
it's just like, now I look at their receiving corps
three weeks ago, it's a mess.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
Now, I'm like, is that the deepest in the league.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
In all your years in the NFL, you had really
good coaches and really smart people. If a coach did
make a mistake or a GM did make a mistake,
were you ever in meetings where people just said, we're.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
Going to course correct. This doesn't work.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
This does because I feel like Kansas City is constantly fluid.
They're constantly because they pay Ma Homes, Chris Jones and
Kelsey Right, they've got to take They got to bring
Juju Smith.
Speaker 4 (17:33):
Back, let him go, they got to bring him back.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
What do you make of what they've done to this
receiving corp in the last three years now, it looks
like it's the deepest in the league.
Speaker 6 (17:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (17:43):
Well, as as a player, I never needed someone to
take accountability at the podium, Like I didn't care if
the head coach or the GM or anybody got to
the podium and said it. But I cared greatly and
I think all my teammates did of what was said
in the locker room, what was said in the team
meeting room when a coach or the organization and like,
you know says hey are bad.
Speaker 6 (18:02):
You know, like we love that, we love that.
Speaker 7 (18:05):
I thought what was really interesting about the Chiefs, Like,
I think the Chiefs have one of the best cultures
of any organization in sports in terms of like, hey,
we're in this together. It's us against the world, even
though the world's really not against you.
Speaker 6 (18:17):
You mentioned it. Nine different guys caught the ball, however, like.
Speaker 7 (18:22):
The number one targeted guy I think with ten targets
was Rashi Rice. Like, this is a guy that you know,
whatever you might feel about him in that locker room,
that is our brother, that is our teammate, that is
our guy. And they had a concerted effort from the
ten yard line, from the five yard line, screens to him,
push passes to him. Welcome back, number four, Here we go.
(18:42):
You're our guy. You know, we were going wherever you
help take us. Like that's that's an effort that the
locker room rallies around. And you saw it in the
play calling. You saw my home. In fact, Mahome's two
worst plays that probably should have been picked were when
he was forcing the ball to Rashi Rice. He's got
an effort to make, you know, bring the guy along,
(19:03):
get back right away.
Speaker 6 (19:04):
I don't know.
Speaker 7 (19:05):
There's just something special about when a team comes together
that way, from top to bottom and top to bottom.
And then I when I say bottom, I'm talking quarterback,
franchise quarterback, that's not really bottom.
Speaker 8 (19:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
Finally, every time I watch the Packers, they leave me
wanting just a little more, and I'm like, I like him.
They are super young, like Seattle. I understand it's a process.
They may look different in twelve weeks. Yesterday, I'm like, Okay,
why does Jacoby Brissett look like Joe Montana? Why is
he completing balls?
Speaker 3 (19:36):
Why?
Speaker 1 (19:37):
And then I think, well, Arizona at home, they've got McBride,
they've got good players, looks like Larry Fitzgerald. Harrison excuse me,
Marvin Harrison now is developing into something?
Speaker 3 (19:47):
It is?
Speaker 1 (19:48):
Do team do young teams? I mean, every time I
watch Green Bay, I'm like, Okay, why aren't they winning
this comfortably? Or am I overvaluing their talent?
Speaker 3 (19:58):
Well?
Speaker 7 (19:59):
I think they're young. I mean Green Bay's a young team.
Jordan Love has got great potential, but I think we
just think automatically. He's like, hey, why aren't you playing
like favarn Aaron Rodgers, Like, you know, it's just what
Packer quarterbacks do.
Speaker 6 (20:10):
He's still a young player.
Speaker 7 (20:11):
I think defensively, you know, they've got a new defensive
coordinator somewhat new, and Jeff Athley hasn't been there that long.
Speaker 6 (20:17):
And I think, you know, they played great last year.
Speaker 7 (20:20):
He started out great this year, they add Michael Parsons,
They're trying to figure out the pieces. I think this
is a good team parody in the NFL, it's a
real thing, and especially in that division. I think a
lot of people had the Minnesota Vikings if JJ McCarthy
was going to be a guy, it's like, Oh, the.
Speaker 6 (20:35):
Vikings is going to take that division. It's not. You know,
now you got.
Speaker 7 (20:37):
The Bears are probably overachieving. The Lions are great. Packers
took it to the Lions week one. You know, I
do think that this is a team that I wouldn't
be afraid to say, this is a playoff team that
could really do something special. But yeah, I guess, I guess.
I hear what you're saying with the Arizona game. But
Arizona to me is just always been this like spoiler team.
(21:00):
I don't care who you are. If you're the Rams,
if you're the Seahawks, if you know, like you.
Speaker 6 (21:04):
Go down there.
Speaker 7 (21:05):
It's a that's a tough that's sort of a tough game.
Usually it's Kyler and not Jacoby. But I'm not I'm
not giving up on Jordan Love. I think this this
team will hit their stride at the right time. But
I get your fans, I get you, I get your
feelings with that, and I'm sure Packer fans somewhat agree
with you.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
By the way, you went to Boston College. The UCLA Bruins,
you are bandwagoning.
Speaker 4 (21:29):
Just suddenly they are red hot.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
You study, they let go of their coach, they bring
in the assistance. They're on fire as a program. It
is amazing to watch Sometimes in college football. I'm like,
it's a totally different juice, totally different vibe with UCLA,
is it not.
Speaker 7 (21:47):
Yeah, Well, for the record, I am a UCLA parent
now and my son is on that football team. But
uh no, then listen, it's a real thing. And I've
been a part.
Speaker 6 (21:55):
Of coaching changes when they happen on the fly.
Speaker 7 (21:58):
I mean it's you either all the party, you pull together,
and this UCLA team is for sure pulled together, winning
three in a row.
Speaker 6 (22:05):
I think big newon kickoffs.
Speaker 7 (22:07):
Going to Indiana this week, so that'll be a big
one Indiana versus UCLA. The games aren't going to get
easier in that Big ten matchup. But no, it's a
real deal.
Speaker 6 (22:15):
I learned it.
Speaker 7 (22:16):
I learned it in college with many head coaching changes
I learned it in the NFL with head coaching changes.
It's part of what makes sports great and unpredictable.
Speaker 6 (22:25):
And for all you.
Speaker 7 (22:27):
Betters out there, I would never bet on a team
with an against a team with an interim head coach.
Speaker 6 (22:32):
It's like a blind date. No one loves those going
up against those types of opponents.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
Good for you, Indiana's good, by the way.
Speaker 6 (22:44):
To put it mildly, They're good. They're good.
Speaker 4 (22:48):
Hey, great seeing you a man?
Speaker 6 (22:50):
All right? See you call it?
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Yeah, Matt when he comes to Los Angeles to visit
his kids as a proud dad, and it is remarkable
to watch UCLA. So they the head coach, a former
player there, leaves and they, you know, Jerry Neuheisel, who
sounds exactly like his dad and looks like his dad.
(23:12):
They have just turned it around, just brand same kids,
different energy, and that game suddenly got really really interesting.
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Speaker 4 (24:15):
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Speaker 4 (24:20):
Colin right? Colin wrong? Threday halfway through Jmack with a news.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
This is the herd line news.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
All right, Colin.
Speaker 10 (24:30):
In a battle of the best running backs in the
league last night, Christian McCaffrey outdueled by a mile twenty Wow.
Semac was running wild, just great, catching the ball, dancing.
It's crazy. He looks way better than Saquon Barkley does
this year. I don't know what's wrong with Saquon. We
knew that it was a heavy load last year that
he burdened but by far, Christian McCaffrey has eclipped Saquon Barkley.
(24:54):
I think he's right there with Bijeon as the best
back in the league. And Kyle Shanahan talked about that performance.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
He's huge.
Speaker 8 (25:01):
I mean, he's he's the most consistent player I've been around.
I mean, he just allows you to stay on track.
He gets every yard in the run game in more
and what he does in the pass game just it's
sure you're gonna throw the ball to him and not
get to complete him.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
He could be a slot receiver in the NFL. I
mean he's that gifted. He really.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
I mean, Barry Sanders, Walter Payton, McCaffrey to me are
just different. You could put him out wide, you can
put him in. I mean he had thirty one total
touches in the game. I think he had twenty. I
think he had twenty four carries and seven catches.
Speaker 4 (25:34):
I mean that that to me.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
Is way too much of a workload for a guy.
I don't love that. But twenty more carries in the
NFL is a lot of carry.
Speaker 10 (25:43):
Yeah, they're starting to work Brian Robinson and more of
the kid they got from Washington and maybe he's up to.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
Speed with the offense.
Speaker 10 (25:48):
I'll just say this, they kind of need him because
Kittle's not there yet. You know, he didn't do anything
last night. Jawan Jennings has a pass go off his hands,
it's intercepted. Brandon Ayuk still missing in action, Ricky Pierce
all the longest knee injury in NFL history. When they
get healthy and I saw they have the late by
Colin Man, a new team could use a bye like
the Niners now, I mean, they're just bringing guys off
(26:10):
the street and trying to plug them in and make
it happen like no.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
I mean, if you look at the talented defense alone, Bosa, Hurt,
Warner Hurt, who Funga leaves, Greenlaw leaves, they bring in
Robert Sala, they're actually okay, it's a pretty darn good defense.
I mean, you name another defense that, over the course
of a calendar year could lose their four of their
I mean, Bosa, Warner, hu fung are arguably they're three
best defenders for different reasons, they're all gone. The defense
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has played. I think Sala and Shanahan you could argue
one's coordinator of the year, one's coach of the year.
I think this is as good a job mag Jones.
It's funny if you take away your initial perception of
the mean you didn't know he's kind of not sneaky athletic,
but he runs in spots. He's always thrown a nice ball.
(26:56):
But I mean their offense looks like their offense. It's
very Christian McCaffrey reliant last night. But they've done a
good job to overcome these injuries. A lot of teams
get injured and they just it's man overboard. That's not
been the case.
Speaker 10 (27:08):
So if you're looking for stocks to buy in the NFL,
I think right now the Niners have to be number one.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
The schedule and all those injuries.
Speaker 10 (27:16):
I mean, they were highlighting this new middle linebacker taking
over for Warner. I know a lot of sharp betters
last night who were on Atlanta just because of the
Fred Warner injury. Right he's out, Oh, Atlanta's gonna go nuts.
I was like, Eh, I don't know about that. This
new linebacker number forty five on's facing.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
On his name. He was outstanding last night.
Speaker 10 (27:32):
So Robert Salah, like you said, probably one of the
best defensive coaches in the league.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
Awesome stuf Rushian McCaffrey has thirty one more touches this
year than Jonathan Taylor. Now the difference is Warren Pierce
Pittman are more available. So what's happening to San Francisco
is they're like, hey, this is what we have. We
would not have him touch the ball thirty one times,
it would be like eighteen. But you know their takeaway
is last night was you know the Rams had won
(27:57):
in the day, right, so you're sitting there looking around, going, okay,
the Rams have a dob, you know, so you.
Speaker 4 (28:04):
Got you've gotta win.
Speaker 10 (28:06):
All right, Let's move to Denver, Colin the craziest game
of the day.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
You touched on it at the outset.
Speaker 10 (28:10):
The Giants were up nineteen nothing heading into the fourth
quarter and totally imploded. Jackson Dart's getting a pass because
he was good for most of it, but that interception
changed the game. Terrible decision. Here's Brian Daboll at a
loss for words.
Speaker 3 (28:25):
Tough way to lose.
Speaker 11 (28:29):
The way down to the end, sixty minutes and made
one more play than we did, a lot of plays
that could have changed the outcome of that game, not
just one sixty minute game. So you know it was.
It's not one play, it's not one position, it's not
(28:50):
offense defense, it's collectively.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
Listen, Denver got a little lucky on that one touchdown,
that ricochetde or Jenner's got lucky to Yeah, I mean
that game ended the way it should have ended. It
was wild, you get that. I mean, we've seen a
couple of games this year that you know, Tampa Seattle
may have been the best game of the year, the
shootout Darnald Baker. This wasn't that because for three quarters
Denver's offense was in nep I did like both quarterbacks
(29:18):
smartly using their legs. Dart and bo Nix are good athletes,
use their legs. I've said this for years. The NFL
is the windows are small, the defensive coaching is sophisticated.
You're gonna need to pick up first downs to help
your defense out. And Denver's defense was like, guys, we're
getting tired. You got to extend some drives. So I
(29:39):
think when Sean Payton leaned into Bow's right, like right
here on this video, leaned into it, that's what this
kid can do.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 10 (29:48):
I kind of wish Gable had gone to the podium
and just been honest, guys, I'm messing devastated.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
We were the better team for fifty minutes.
Speaker 10 (29:54):
I can't believe that kicker missed an extra point or
we go to over Like that's the reality, Colin if
a lot of people today on these shows and podcasts
are just saying, oh, what a crazy game, Let's be real.
Denver was not good yesterday for fifteen minutes. They were
outclassed at home again by Jackson Dart who's throwing to
nobody's I mean he's throwing up Daniel Bellinger, theo Johnson.
(30:18):
Denver got embarrassed. They are lucky that they pulled out.
Now two fourth quarters against the Giants and Eagles where
they were down bad.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
Remember that Eagles come back.
Speaker 4 (30:26):
Yeah, you make your own luck. I mean they're not.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
I mean that's the greatest quarter by an offense in
the history of the league, or at least by a player.
So you make your own luck. If bo Nicks wasn't mobile,
they don't win that game. He had four rushes, multiple
first downs running, he had two rushing touchdowns. So you
make a lot of your own luck. And I think
Sean Payton also in those key situational moments. Denver always
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dialed up. I mean, this is one thing that Andy Reid,
Sean Payton. Do you get into these key situational moments,
and Denver Oway was called I mean, you don't know
what's gonna happen. Is bo gonna run? Are they gonna
throw them downfield? I mean Denver's personnel, Jason, they give you.
There's a lot of looks. They're long their reign. Evan
ingram Off, Oh.
Speaker 3 (31:08):
He's a unique He's like I mean, he just doesn't.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
Look he looks like an NBA guy. He's so big
and wide. And Denver's personnel is outstanding in my opinion.
Speaker 10 (31:19):
Humor me for a secon ranked the teams in the
AFC West. You can leave the Raiders off because.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
Angel City won, Denver two, Chargers three.
Speaker 10 (31:25):
Big winner yesterday was the Chiefs because the Broncos. I mean,
this is the Jets and Giants they are struggling with.
These are dregs of the league, I know, and the
Chiefs are blasting dregs of the league.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
In thirty In fairness, Giants beat the Eagles soundly. The
Giants have had personnel. The Giants found their quarterback. Giants
have the better coach. Giants have the better quarterback, Giants
have the better left tackle, Giants have the better defensive front.
Giants strangely have the much better culture when you look
at what's happening with the Jets.
Speaker 3 (31:54):
Thanks for that. Digget the Jets.
Speaker 10 (31:55):
Final story con Let's go to tonight's game. Baker Mayfield,
Jared got two cowhard favorites dueling it out in Detroit.
We're both on the Lions. He's the line has ticked
up to six here. Michael Strahan this weekend had some
strong praise for Baker Mayfield and how he's performed so
far the season.
Speaker 12 (32:15):
The thing about Tampa, they just keep winning, and then
you look at Baker Mayfield and I'm like, this guy,
my opinion is the MVP. He's the most valuable player
in this league and to his team because at one
at points you've had God went out, yet Evan do
Abuka has been out. Those are three three top guys,
and yeah Nervy and they Bucky Irby and they still
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keep winning. So a lot of credit to Baker Mayfield.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
I think Baker does the best job of defining his team.
He's got a little pirate ship field to him. And
that's what Tampa has always been a little they're a
little loose, a little bit of a pirate ship little,
you know.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
I mean they don't.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
They've always had talent. I covered him thirty years ago.
They've always had good players. It's been the quarterback situation
when they have Baker, when they had Brady Brad Johnson
for a while, wile you know, when they've had decent
quarterback play, they They've always had the players. And I
think Baker kind of speaks to their vibe and their
culture kind of chill. You know, they're they're fun, they're
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you never quite know what you're getting with Tampa through
the years, they've been involved in crazy, wild games. I
listen when they get healthy, they're beat up. They're winning
and they're not healthy. So watch out.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
There's a Niners vibe there.
Speaker 10 (33:25):
I'm not going to bore the audience with all the
against the spread numbers. Dan Campbell off a loss, Campbell
and Goff at home, you know, like they're they're really good.
Detroit should win tonight. I'll just say this, if Tampa
pulls the upset and wins outright, that would be a
chocker to me. If Tampa wins outright and continues to
do it with all these injuries.
Speaker 3 (33:44):
Man, that that would be.
Speaker 4 (33:45):
Something Jmickla News.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
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Speaker 10 (34:02):
Tonight, it's a winner take all Game seven of the
ALCS as Cal Rawley and the Mariners take on Vlad
Gerrero Junior and the Blue Jays with a trip to
the World Series on the line. Coverage begins at seven
pm Eastern four pm Pacific tonight on Fox and FS one.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
As a hardened journalist, an America's honesty broker, I don't
root for sides.
Speaker 4 (34:26):
Except tonight we finally witnessed it.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
The Philadelphia Eagles offense totally carried by Jalen Hurtz. They
have to because they can no longer run the football.
Last year, Saquon Barkley accounted for over one hundred yards
a game thirteen times. This year it's O for seven.
Is it Saquon fatigue? Is it O line injuries? Whatever?
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Fifty two yards per game, So it's the fewest rushing
yards by an Eagles team at this point in thirty years.
So yesterday it was I mean they basically they've transitioned
their offense. They are now a deep ball offense. They
have long dry spells. It's very New York Yankees like.
It is very home run dependent, which they're not very
(35:12):
good on third down. They can't run the ball, they're
not consistent. But they hit a lot of home runs
Devontae Smith and AJ Brown outside of t Higgins and
Jamar Chase and maybe including those guys, that's the best
receiving core in the league.
Speaker 4 (35:27):
So you hope.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
Maybe this long ball, home run offense loosens up the
run game, but it doesn't.
Speaker 4 (35:36):
Kind of it doesn't.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
Kind of feel like Saquon is going to be They've
shifted their identity. They hit home runs now, no small ball,
no controlling the clock. Yesterday they barely had the football
if you turn it on in Minnesota had the ball.
So Hurts on twenty plus yard throws yesterday was five
or six with three touchdowns. So he proved that he
can do it. But it's a they have they have shifted.
(35:59):
They're the opposite. The last year it is home run balls,
not moving runners across. And here's Nick Sarianni after the
win over Minnesota.
Speaker 13 (36:08):
Find a way to win and then identify issues and
get better from it. Like I know how I felt
for the last two weeks not winning, So I'm never
gonna take a win for granted. Ever Again, I think
sometimes in the in the in the midst of it,
you can be like, man, like, we'll be there, we'll
get there, Like, but we're gonna enjoy the heck out
(36:29):
of this thing.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
The offense is a little doctor Jalen mister Hyde. You
don't know what you're getting half to half like Denver,
but in the end, their receiving corps is elite. Jalen
throws a beautiful deep ball, they hit on it, and
this is not what they were last year. They were
at times, but you get some you know, with this
kind of offense, like the Yankees, you get long dry spells.
Speaker 4 (36:54):
Yeah, they don't, they don't.
Speaker 3 (36:55):
You know.
Speaker 1 (36:55):
They're not running the football at all at all, and
they're not gonna win time of possession and their defense
is gonna be on the field a lot. But when
you can do what you do yesterday, I thought that
was an impressive win. All things considered, forced Carson Wentz
in the mistakes, which he's prone to do. So the
Chicago Bears are on a bit of an ugly heater.
I said earlier, Ben Johnson watching Caleb Williams sometimes has
(37:19):
a resting face of discouraged, disappointed. But I think you
have to be honest about the Bears. Their interior line
is elite, their run game is excellent. They're taking the
football away. And whereas Caleb was the star of the
show offensively high school college in last year.
Speaker 4 (37:37):
That's not what he does now.
Speaker 1 (37:39):
He is a supporting actor with this Bears offense. And
here's Matt Hasselbeck talking about.
Speaker 6 (37:46):
I think that this could work.
Speaker 7 (37:48):
But Ben Johnson isn't really the type. Doesn't seem to
the kind of guy that's gonna change or adjust.
Speaker 6 (37:53):
It's kind of like a Caleb.
Speaker 7 (37:54):
We're gonna play in time, We're gonna plan rhythm, We're
gonna run my scheme. I'm not gonna put training wheels
on you. Like, we're going to take shots early and often,
like it's part of what we're doing.
Speaker 6 (38:04):
And if you want to be on board, you want
to do it my way.
Speaker 7 (38:06):
This can work if you want to revert back to
what you did in high school and college because you
were more talented than the people around you, then maybe
you're not my guy.
Speaker 4 (38:15):
Yeah there, listen.
Speaker 1 (38:16):
You can watch Ben Johnson's frustration with the pass game.
But I will argue all day long the skill people
for the Bear, DeAndre Swift, Caleb Williams, Luther Burden, Colston Lovelin,
Cole come Ot, Dj Moore. They've got really good skill people.
In fact, the last couple of weeks Yards after the
Catch they've been top three. So there's a lot of
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things to be happy about. It's a good place to
be in the NFL when you're in a four game
winning streak and aren't playing particularly well on one side
of the ball. And again, Caleb is not getting sacked
as much despite what you see there. He's cut his
saxon half. He's never been a big interception guy. So
it's not like Spencer Ratler, who just kind of felt
like he wanted to prove they're not turning it over
(39:01):
a ton.
Speaker 3 (39:02):
They're winning the turnover.
Speaker 1 (39:04):
Ratio, the turnover differential, they're near the top of the league.
They're running the football, they're playing good defense, They've hit
some field goals.
Speaker 3 (39:13):
So again, I mean they're in a good space.
Speaker 1 (39:15):
It's very clear they got the right coach and they've
got the right offensive personnel. I set it with bow
Knicks earlier. I said it with Jackson Dart. I've said
it with Caleb Williams. I've said it with Michael Pennix.
You're not getting any Phoenix to Los Angeles forty five
minutes smooth flights.
Speaker 4 (39:33):
All of them have turbulence.
Speaker 1 (39:34):
You know, Patrick mahomes best talent at quarterback. Ever, that's
an outlier. Josh Allen was bumpy early. Bo Nicks has
been bumpy. This is what it looks like. Bears right
now again, are number one in turnover differential. You'd have
taken that ten weeks ago if I'd told you in August. Listen,
the run game is gonna be great. I say this
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with my wife anytimes she's in a bad mood, I said,
would you have taken this a year ago? Would you
have taken in August? Number one turnover differential? Four game
winning streak. Run game is devastating, defense is aggressive and
plan well.
Speaker 3 (40:10):
Check check, check check.
Speaker 4 (40:11):
You have taken all of them.
Speaker 1 (40:13):
And you're like the passing game it's not there, and
you're in a four game winning streak. They're not It's
not pretty, you know, And as the weather gets colder,
it gets less attractive. Wins are wins our three RG
three's around the corner of a Monday, the hurt
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