NFL journalist Albert Breer stops by The Herd to talk to Colin about the Chiefs offensive line, what he's hearing from the Packers training camp, how good the Bengals offense should be this season, and more
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Speaker 1 (00:27):
Albert Breer has been to seventeen training camp so far
this season. He is at the Kansas City Chiefs camp
and they actually have an urgent need at left tackle,
and they went and got a kid at Ohio State
that got banged up. But it is supposed to be
Some people have said Josh Shimmons is going to be
the steal of the late first round. And by the way,
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the two times the Chiefs have been blown out in
a playoff game, they've had a left tackle issue. So
you know, you pay the quarterback that becomes one of
those positions. How many people can you pay? What do
you hear on the that that could be toony left?
So you probably won't be as good on the interior.
You can't be average at left tackle. How are they there?
Speaker 3 (01:09):
They look great?
Speaker 4 (01:10):
And I'll say this Colin like there's not even a
competition at that spot.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
That's how impressed they are with Josh Simms.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
He has taken every single first team roun through three
weeks of training camp. No one else is working there,
just Josh Simmons. They feel like he is rare physically.
There's no sign of the injury, which that's a bad
injury for a big man tell attendance, So that box
has been checked and that was a big one for
a lot of teams going into the draft.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
And he has shown.
Speaker 4 (01:36):
Increased maturities, working really hard, and so you know, I
think a lot of people came into camp and said, Okay,
is Simmons going to be ready? Is it going to
be Simmons or Jalen Moore at left tackle? Now the
question is who's going to be the right tackle. It's
gotten to the point where Josh Simmons is cemented in
there as the Chiefs left tackle and they got Jawan
Taylor and Jalen Moore competing at right tackle, which means
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you're either going to have a backup swing tackle making
fifteen million per year or twenty million per year, which
is a pretty good problem to have when you consider
how the season ended last year for.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Them, So it's interesting the NFC North, the Bears have
been noisy, the Vikings have been noisy, the Lions lost
their coordinators, and you're at the Green Bay camp.
Speaker 5 (02:17):
It may be the quietest camp.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
And I haven't heard a story from the Green Bay
Packers camp, which I think both you and I love
that they're just you know, and I think we forget
that Jordan Love wasn't healthy for two different times during
the year and they won double figure games. What was
your takeaway on the very very quiet Green Bay Packer camp.
Speaker 4 (02:38):
Yeah, I mean just talking to Jordan like, I mean,
really until the end of the year, he wasn't fully
healthy because you had the need, then you had the groin,
and so he was really figuring out how to play
with these injuries through a good portion of the year.
And I know he's been criticized that he wasn't as
good as he was at the end of the year before,
but they still made the playoffs and they were still
competitive with the Super Bowl champions when they got there,
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So you know, look like I think Jordan Love is
in this grouping of players with the Packers where they
feel like they've done a good job putting a lot
of solid guys in the roster, right, and they've got
a lot of these guys who are going to be
up for contracts in the next few years. So can
the good players in their roster become great players? And
you know, as in the receiver room with guys like
D'antavian Wicks and Jayden Ree, Christian Watson when he comes
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back off the injury, Matthew Golden coming in from Texas.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
What does the left tackle position look like? Is it
Rashid Walker?
Speaker 4 (03:28):
Is it Jordan Morgan who's been playing guard for them
as a former first round pick?
Speaker 3 (03:32):
On defense?
Speaker 4 (03:33):
They've got four first round picks on their defensive line
between van Ness, Gary Clark and Wyatt?
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Is there a fifteen SAT guy in that group?
Speaker 4 (03:42):
And then at corner you got a guy like Bo
Melton moving over from the offensive side. So they feel
really good about their roster across the board like there
aren't a lot of holes there. Drian Cooper's another name
I should mention, a guy who's got really high ceiling.
And now I think for the Packers it's if they're
going to go from being a nine or a ten
or eleven team to being a twelve or thirteen win
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team that's.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
Playing home games in the playoffs.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
I think they're going to need a handful of those
guys to elevate from being pretty good players on a
balanced roster to becoming great players.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
So Cincinnati Bengals the last year, Joe Burrow did not
even hide. He was perpetually grumpy. And I think a
lot of it was he knew he's sending a signal
do we have to not? Let's get Trey Hendrickson in there.
What was your takeaway a couple of days in Cincinnati's camp.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
But the offense is going to be incredible. The ball
hit the ground twice at the practice that I was at.
And yes, it's Joe Burrow and it's Jamar Chase and
as Te Higgins who have a chance to be intergalactic together.
But it's also smaller things like a Marius MEM's coming
back at offensive tackle, wildly.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
Talented, just needs to play.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
Mike Disicky is the first time they've had a pass
catching tight ending consecutive season since Joe Burrow has been there.
Andrea Savis, the Hepta athlete from Princeton who really earned
Burrow's trust last year, Jermaine Burton, He's got a really
high ceiling. It looks like maybe he's growing up a
little bit. Chase Brown looks like he can be the
guy in the backfield. So they put all of it together,
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the offense is going to be off the charts. I
think Burrow's got a chance to be the MVP of
the league. And then the question becomes, can they be
middle of the pack after being really bad defensively last year.
A lot of that's going to come down to the
new coordinator now Gold, and then the two edge rushers.
To me, Trey Hendrickson, what does he look like when
he gets back. I think they will get him signed,
and then Shamar Stewart, the rookie at of Texas A
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and M. If they can just be average on defense,
I think they have a chance to come out of
the AFC. Remember call Hing They're the last team other
than the Chiefs come out of the AFC. So the
offense should be off the charts. It's just can they
be middle of the pack on defense? That might be
good enough.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Every single reporter so I have to ask you this.
There's gone to the Broncos camp, There's gone to Denver's
Camp has come out of there too and just gone, Man,
they like their team. Is that the vibe you got?
Speaker 5 (05:59):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (05:59):
Absolutely, and look like the number one defense in the league.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
Last year we got Vance Joseph coming back, which is
a luxury because he was up for some head coaching jobs,
and they're adding Drake Greenlawn Tallanoah Funga. It's the middle
of the defense. Those are two guys. The Niners did
not want to lose the cap realities there in San Francisco,
which forced them to let those guys go. So you've
got this defense that should be off the charts. And
I'm not sure bo Nix gets the credit for the
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job that he did last year because I mean Colins
just you know, I look at the history of it, right,
like the young quarterbacks who played really well. Patrick Mahomes
had Tyreek Hill when he was young, Josh Allen had
Stefan Diggs when he was young. Is there a guy
I'm not saying Courtland Sutton and Marvin Mims and those
guys can't play, but is there a guy who is
like this great player that's really lifting bow up? Or
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did Boa just play really well with a good not
great group around him?
Speaker 3 (06:49):
I think it's the latter. And now you add RJ.
Speaker 4 (06:51):
Harvey, who they think a lot of you know from UCF,
the running back that got in the second round. You
add Evan Ingram brings him an element at tight end
they haven't had, so like I think the Broncos gonna
be right there in the mix. The question to me
is what happens in the AFCU West where I think,
you know, the top three teams there could cannibalize each other.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
And I think by the end of the year the
Raiders are going to be tough out too.
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Speaker 5 (07:52):
What I'm a little surprised.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
Terry mclaurin's been such a good human being, there's been
such a leader, durable. I mean, he goes hand in
hand with Jaden Daniels. I'm a little surprised at the
holdout what's happened, it's going to transpire here. I'm shocked
by the way because I think Adam Peters is really smart.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
Yeah here, here's what I would say.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
I think part of it is like frustration from Terry
because he knows the value that he's provided that franchise.
And I think in some ways it becomes harder to
sign a guy like that because they know how much
they put in right like so beyond just being a
great receiver, consistent as hell, a great teammate, he's been
the bellweather through some real storms there, you know, since
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twenty nineteen. He was there for Gruden to Rivera, there
for Rivera to Quinn, there for the ownership change, there
for the nickname change. And I think because of that,
like you know, he feels and rightfully so that he
should be rewarded at the highest level. Meanwhile, you've got
an organization that is becoming increasingly data driven under new ownership,
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and Adam Peters and Dan Quinn have done a great job,
but they've been very disciplined in how they handle assets.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
And so I think it's sort of.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
That the player knowing I'm worth the world to them,
and I'm a symbolic of what they've been trying to
build here and finally got built last year. And on
the other side, you might have some people in the
front office that are like, we love Terry, there's nothing
we don't like about Terry, but he's going to be
thirty in September, and what does that mean for him
going forward. I'm personally an opinion that you aren't going
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to regret paying Terry McLaurin two or three years from now.
I have a really hard I've seen that scenario, but
it is in a little bit of a tough spot.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
And well, if I asked you about J. J. McCarthy,
I'm gonna stay away from that. Final question. The shaduor
Sanders stuff is I mean, it got so zany this
week there was the Browns are sabotaging him discussion, which
like they need him to be good and they got
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to get out from under that ridiculous to Sean Watson thing.
So he plays tomorrow. I can't wait to watch him.
I'm rooting for the kid. What are you hearing in Cleveland?
Speaker 4 (10:07):
Just that he when he came in, he was pretty
far behind and that there was a sizable gap between
him and Dylan Gabriel just from a football no how standpoint,
from an operation of the offense standpoint, and that's without
even mentioning the gap between him and the two veterans there,
Joe Flacco and Kenny Pickett.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
So he had a lot of ground to make up
for sure.
Speaker 4 (10:30):
You know, teams and I think I told you this
call on teams before the draft were surprised how far
behind he was in that in those areas, and that
showed up right away. He's worked hard to try and
catch up. I think the reason why he hasn't gotten
first team reps right, and that's been a big thing
in Cleveland. Why is Dylan Gabriel getting the first team reps?
And he doesn't look great, but she do or isn't.
I think the main reason why is because, to be
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fair to the other ten guys in the huddle, the
veterans who are getting ready for a season. You need
to have somebody who can step in there and operate
the offense efficient and I just don't think Chador has
gotten there yet. Now by happenstance, he winds up getting
the shot to start tomorrow. I think playing well with
the twos and the threes against the Panther starters could
buy him some more opportunities in practice. And that's the
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first thing he needs now is more opportunities in practice.
But having to get caught up just from a football
no house standpoint is why he's been behind since the
spring at the Chiefs camp.
Speaker 5 (11:23):
Albert Breer, Monday morning, quarterback. Good saying you, but I.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Appreciate it, all right, thanks Colin. Hustling forrest and we
do appreciate that. J.
Speaker 5 (11:30):
Mack with the news.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
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Speaker 7 (11:37):
All right, Colin, let's start with Kevin O'Connell and the Vikings.
You know, he's had a lot of regular season success
with this squad. I mean, Sam Darnold, it's been awesome. However,
he does not have a playoff win. Now he's got
JJ McCarthy at quarterback. Here's O'Connell's loftiest goal for this season.
Speaker 8 (11:56):
As I told our team when we came back to
training camp, I think the foundation's been set, and I
think that a lot of the players that we've been
able to either sign him for agency or were fortunate
to draft in the draft, they're here and they understand
that they're now part of building that up to either
in even greater heights. But the next step for this
organization is becoming, in my opinion, championship worthy.
Speaker 5 (12:21):
Yeah. I think.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Oh, I think it's an unfair criticism that he hasn't
won a playoff game.
Speaker 6 (12:28):
Well, Colin, sorry, it's not a criticism, it's just a fact.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
Yeah, yeah, but it's it's slanted and the way it's
delivered is, you know, he hasn't won a playoff game.
I take his Sam Donald, ninety percent of fans in
the league had given up on him.
Speaker 5 (12:42):
He was an MVP leader week fourteen. Yeah, he did it.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
Kevin O'Connell had a remarkable to build up Donald's confidence.
I mean, Sam Donald was beaten up when he went
to San Francisco to back up Rock Perty.
Speaker 5 (12:55):
He was upstairs. He was beaten up.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Yeah, all right?
Speaker 7 (12:59):
Under the next Jordan Love, Colin, Green Bay Packers a
bit of a sexy Super Bowl pick. I think we'll
be talking about them in the next segment. Now, one
interesting note on Jordan Love is he only ran the
ball twenty five times last season.
Speaker 6 (13:12):
Was that due to injuries? Was that due to the.
Speaker 7 (13:15):
Coach wanted to win from the pocket. Well, here's Jordan
Love talking about running more this season. You look back
and you're like, man, I gotta took off and run.
Love said, a little of it is just understanding what
the defense is doing, what coverage we're getting here, how
the defensive line might be playing with some of these
games started twisting and doing different things. Colin, It sounds
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like Love wants to win with his legs a little
more this season. He ran fifty times two years ago,
cut in half to twenty five now. He did have
a couple of injuries. They suffered miss I believe two
games this season.
Speaker 6 (13:52):
Your thoughts on Jordan Love wanting to.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
Run more, Well, I think when you're Jordan Love, you
should let you should go about three times a game.
And I always feel that's my homes He's gonna smoke
you twice in the second half. Keep you honest in
the first half. If you run three times a game,
that's fifty one times. I'm totally comfortable with that.
Speaker 7 (14:12):
Final story, Colin is the Travis Hunter experiment in Jacksonville.
Speaker 6 (14:17):
Trevor Lawrence, Oh, he is a little bit biased.
Speaker 7 (14:20):
But when he was asked about Travis Hunter playing both ways,
and Lawrence had an opinion, you won't be surprised.
Speaker 9 (14:27):
He's so talented man, it's hard to keep him off
the field. Selfishly, yeah, I definitely want to want offense more.
That's almost like do you want to you want to
come catch touchdowns or you want to maybe break up
a pass or to a game like, yeah, that's incision
you gotta make. So now he'll he'll make plays no
matter where he's at, honestly, and of course as a quarterback,
I hope he plays more offense. But you know, wherever
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he needs to play to make our team better, as
he will make us better is what's going to happen.
Speaker 5 (14:53):
So all for whatever that is, you.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
Know, a little pressure on Trevor this year, he's got
two star receivers. Travis will be his star right out
of the gate. Brian Thomas was excellent. Now it's time
for Travis Trevor. Trevor dust a healthy too, So I
don't buy the excuses. He's got an offensive coach, two weapons.
I don't think their all line is bad. I think
it's time. They've had too many good draft picks. They
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got too much talent on that team, and the division's
week they need to vie with Houston for the division title.
Speaker 7 (15:22):
Yeah, I totally agree, and sorry for the solemn tone,
but it's increasingly looking like Slater.
Speaker 6 (15:28):
It's an ACL that's the fear for the Chargers. That
just sucks.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Yikes.
Speaker 5 (15:34):
Jmack with the news.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
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Speaker 1 (15:51):
All Right, Last week, the Hall of Fame game Shader
Sanders Tomorrow gets his first start. It may only be
the preseason, but Jay knows, he knows how the playoffs
are going to settle these way ahead of us here
in early August. So we call this segment Tomorrow's Headlines Today.
Speaker 5 (16:14):
Let's roll it.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
What will the headline be for the number seven seed,
the final seed in the NFC playoffs.
Speaker 6 (16:21):
Right, So we're working backwards here.
Speaker 7 (16:22):
There are some surprises because you, as you've taught me
in the last few years around the show, there's a
lot of new playoff teams every year, some we don't
see coming. So the number seven seed of the NFC,
the headline will b Marvin the Martian cosmic quarterback connection
disrupts NFC universe. I have the Arizona Cardinals sneaking in
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as the number seven seed. Marvin Harrison obviously will make
a massive leap in year two, really struggled as a rookie.
But Colin, that offense should be sick in year three
under Jonathan Gannon, Kyler Murray sounds like.
Speaker 6 (16:58):
He's gotten back to the books if you will. Obviously,
McBride's one of the best tight ends in the league.
Speaker 7 (17:02):
The run game is formidable, Colin. This is a team
that played everybody tough last year. Yeah, they came out
of the gate, they were fighting hard. The schedule was
just difficult. Now, obviously you get a much better schedule,
you get the offensive continuity. I have currently all eleven
starters are back from last year. Currently that's a projection.
That's very good news. Hey, Arizona sneaking in.
Speaker 6 (17:25):
As the seventh seed.
Speaker 5 (17:26):
Don't hate it, you know.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
I like Tyler Murray Tomorrow's headlines today. What's the number
sixth seed in the NF seed.
Speaker 7 (17:34):
This team's not gonna sneak up on anybody in year two.
But they also continuity is a theme for me. They
had a really good year last year. I think they
do most of it again. The headline for the number
six seed will be Federal Reserved Commanders.
Speaker 6 (17:50):
Keep the rate of interest high. Sorry for the political jargon,
but it's funny.
Speaker 4 (17:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (17:56):
So I like Washington a lot.
Speaker 7 (17:58):
Listen, man, you had Deebo, Samuel Laramie Tunsel like those
are big time pickups. Obviously, the defense still has holes,
and it would be remiss of me not to mention
that Washington was pretty damn lucky on fourth down last year,
one of the best fourth down seasons the league has
ever seen. They were incredible in the red zone. Going
to be tough to duplicate that. And as we often
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talk about Colin, when you've seen a year of film
on Jamie Daniels and he killed almost everyone, a lot
of defensive coordinators will be adjusting to Daniels. He's not
going to be able to scoot and scramble for as
many first downs as he did last year. Remember this guy,
Colin was doing things on third down to set up
fourth down so he could run for it up fourth down.
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And if you remember early in the season against Tampa,
I think it was a season opener. He was running
a lot and getting hit and I was like, there's
no way this is sustainable. And he started to pull
back on the running, started to win from the pocket
as long as mclaurin's in, And I think it's going
to be fine. You ad deebo, I think Washington's good.
I have them as the sixth seed in the NFC.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
Tomorrow's headlines today, the five seed in the NF seed.
Speaker 6 (19:06):
Yeah, this one's a noe brainer. I think you have
them a little higher.
Speaker 7 (19:09):
We've got them going back to the playoffs with their
veteran quarterback. The headline for the fifth seed will be
Stafford infection, rams quarterback spreads winning culture again. Yes, Matthew Stafford.
I'm of the belief he's going to be fine. This
back thing is just chatter. Obviously, if that goes awry,
that would be very, very bad news for the Rams.
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But DeVante Adams, I mean I saw a list that
said he was the number one pickup of any team
in the offside.
Speaker 5 (19:37):
I think that they've been really, really pleased.
Speaker 6 (19:40):
Yeah, and you got Puka Nakua, who is you know?
Speaker 7 (19:42):
I see some people betting him for Offensive Player of
the Year, like he could put up massive numbers as
defenses have to adjust for DeVante. Kyron Williams back in
the fold, you love the defense. I feel like you're
the agent for Jared Verse, sometimes hyping him up on
every show. But this team is legit and as as
we've noted many times, they pushed Philly harder than anybody
in that playoff game. Stafford was driving I think in
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the red zone. Yeah for the go ahead score. Tomorrow's
headlines today the number four seed. I got a feeling
where it's gone in the NFC.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
Right.
Speaker 7 (20:15):
So now we've got the division winners, and I know
these guys won the Super Bowl. I don't think it's
going to be as easy. I don't The headline for
the number four seed will be the Philadelphia Eagles got
her late than never Eagles pop their clutch after slow start.
I do think there will be a little struggles out
of the gate for Philly. Obviously the target on their
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back after winning the Super Bowl. The schedule is brutal.
Let's just be upfront with that. They have one of
the toughest schedules in the NFC. I do still think
they win the Division colin largely because I don't trust
the Giants and I don't think much of the Cowboys.
Speaker 6 (20:49):
I think Washington has as tough a schedule or tougher
than than Philly.
Speaker 7 (20:53):
So I've got the Eagles right around ten wins. Would
not be surprised if it's nine. Listen, they're not going
to be the juggernaut that we saw in the playoffs. Sore,
just not okay. They lost several guys on defense. Jalen
Hurts another offensive coordinator, which is seemingly the case every
year for him.
Speaker 6 (21:10):
So I think the Eagles are very good.
Speaker 7 (21:12):
It's just tough for me to start talking repeat number
one seed and all that. I think they slide in
as the four seed in the Nfcit.
Speaker 5 (21:17):
Yeah, and NFC is getting better every year.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
Tomorrow's headlines today, let's go number three seed in the
National Football.
Speaker 7 (21:24):
Coll here's when we start to get a little bit spicy.
Speaker 6 (21:27):
I know you're waiting for your bears. And where the
Vikings jam?
Speaker 4 (21:30):
Now?
Speaker 6 (21:30):
Where the Vikings?
Speaker 7 (21:31):
The headline for the number three seed in the NFC
will be watched in your wallet. New gold card increases
quarterback spinning. Yes, I like the Matthew Golden pick up
for the Packers. I have them Packers winning the division now, Colin,
if you are tracking closely, you didn't see any walkcard
teams out of the NFC North. I think the Packers
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now win the division. I've come around here in August offseason.
Speaker 6 (21:55):
I love Minnesota starting to.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
Back off just a little.
Speaker 7 (21:59):
I think this Packer offense is going to be a machine.
Jordan Love, remember, was not healthy last year and the
opener I think it was the last play of the game,
throwing a hail Mary against Philly got twisted up. Was
never really the same last year. What's he gonna be
with a healthy Watson Golden in the mix. There's a
lot to like about the Packers offense. And let's be real, Lafleur,
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I know we haven't talked about him. If you do
a top ten list of coaches, he's got to be
top five.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
In the league.
Speaker 5 (22:26):
Yeah, no, Matt knows what he's doing.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
Two more Tomorrow's headlines today very interesting, I think something
pretty interesting.
Speaker 5 (22:37):
But the number two seed is coming.
Speaker 7 (22:39):
So this is a team you never like to bet
on because you just lack of consistency has been there.
Speaker 6 (22:46):
Bugaboo.
Speaker 7 (22:46):
That changes the headline for the number two seed in
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Speaker 6 (22:59):
Yes, I'm doing it.
Speaker 7 (23:01):
I'm all in on the Atlanta Falcons wowering the number
two seed in the NFC. Now, a lot of it
has to do with their offseason. I know people didn't
like that draft trade. It could hurt them down the road.
But Colin, when you're one of the worst teams getting
to the quarterback, you add three edge rushers in the
offseason Leonard Floyd and then two in the draft, I
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love it. That's what you got to do. Their back
end held down really well in the secondary. And I
just want to remind people that Kirk Cousins, for as
bad as he was last year, murdered the Tampa Bay
Buccaneers in both me just crushed them.
Speaker 6 (23:36):
And oh, by.
Speaker 7 (23:37):
The way, just by the bye Atlanta bench Cousins in
favor of Pennicks. So Cousins wasn't even good through a
league leading. This number is crazy. Four interceptions in the
final two minutes of games. But Kirk Cousins just killed Atlanta.
Now you upgrade with Pennix. I like what I saw
in the limited edition late in the season. I have
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Atlanta doing well and Tampa just a little too much.
Change another oc. By the way, Tampa. You know who
faced the most backup quarterbacks last year? Tampa Bay went
four and one against backups. Okay, I think Atlanta wins
a division. Get on board with the Falcons column.
Speaker 5 (24:12):
You pick Atlanta to win the division.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
I just moved all my money to bitcoin, so we're
in the same boat. Finally, Atmorrows headlines today, I know
what it is. I just want to see the headline.
Speaker 6 (24:25):
You know what it is. Come on, They're going to
be number one.
Speaker 7 (24:27):
The schedule is the easiest seed in the NFL by
any metric you want. The headline for the number one
seed in the NFC will be no brock Bottom party
helps Niners reach their ceiling. Start to feel at Colin
It's forty nine Ers season coming for you. I know
right now the wide receiver room has everybody panicking. They're
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picking up guys off the scrap heap because they're like, oh,
wait a minute, Brandan Ayuk's not ready yet. Jawan Jennings
is kind of beefing with us Ricky Piersoll like we
need more. So there is some concern about the wide
receiver room. You're concerned about the defense. I've just put
my faith in Brock Purdy. The return of Christian McCaffrey
kind of a big deal. Obviously, your boy George Kittle
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shotgunner of Beers still any elite tight end.
Speaker 6 (25:12):
I love this team. I'm thinking twelve or thirteen wins.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
Yeah, you know what, what pick is really interesting? And
I thought your nugget was great. Arizona. I think Gannon's
one of those guys that people in the league now
he's good, but we don't talk. I mean, the Rams
are high profile, the Niners are high profile. You know,
Seattle's got donald and now that coach from the Ravens McDonald.
So I let people talk about Seattle. Arizona is sneaking
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in they you know, we forget sometimes Marvin Harrison came
into the league he and you know, if you believe
the rumors that Kyler Murray is not a grinder, is
it possible that Marvin Harrison and Kyler Murray needed a
full year together right to be great. I think that's
a really interesting pick because I like their personnel, I
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really do. I think they've got five six really elite players,
and I'm I'm sorry, but Marvin Harrison Junior is going
to be a really good player. But if you believe
the rumors that Kyler's not a film grinder, then you
could say, well, it was gonna It's gonna take a
little longer for that to work. I don't love your
Atlanta pick, but the divisions so weak it could certainly.
I do think Pennix is excellent, but the Arizona pick
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took a little guts in a division with McVeigh and.
Speaker 5 (26:23):
Shanahan and a coach in Seattle they like. I kind
of like that pick.
Speaker 7 (26:27):
So I have three new teams Niners, which I guess
they're new because they were injured last year, Falcons and Cardinals,
so three of the seven new. I don't know, you
don't seem that surprised, Uh no, Lion.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
I mean, if you if I if I I still
have a couple of weeks to make my final pick Listen,
Albert Breer is the second person that's told me Cincinnati's
offense looks absolutely insane, and the truth is Cleveland's bad.
So they're gonna win two games there, and I think
they're gonna beat Pittsburgh twice. So Cincinnati is one of
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those teams that didn't make it in. You know, it's
hard for me to go against Burrow, who I thought
last year for many weeks was the best player in
the league. And I think the Niners schedule. I do
worry though. Sala helps Halfunga and Greenlaw. Halfunga is a
great player, so is Greenlaw. If Bosa gets hurt, that
defense is average j Max, and tomorrow we'll see it's
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Albert Breer has been to seventeen training camp so far
this season. He is at the Kansas City Chiefs camp
and they actually have an urgent need at left tackle,
and they went and got a kid at Ohio State
that got banged up. But it is supposed to be
Some people have said Josh Shimmons is going to be
the steal of the late first round. And by the way,
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the two times the Chiefs have been blown out in
a playoff game, they've had a left tackle issue. So
you know, you pay the quarterback that becomes one of
those positions. How many people can you pay? What do
you hear on the that that could be toony left?
So you probably won't be as good on the interior.
You can't be average at left tackle. How are they there?
Speaker 3 (01:09):
They look great?
Speaker 4 (01:10):
And I'll say this Colin like there's not even a
competition at that spot.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
That's how impressed they are with Josh Simms.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
He has taken every single first team roun through three
weeks of training camp. No one else is working there,
just Josh Simmons. They feel like he is rare physically.
There's no sign of the injury, which that's a bad
injury for a big man tell attendance, So that box
has been checked and that was a big one for
a lot of teams going into the draft.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
And he has shown.
Speaker 4 (01:36):
Increased maturities, working really hard, and so you know, I
think a lot of people came into camp and said, Okay,
is Simmons going to be ready? Is it going to
be Simmons or Jalen Moore at left tackle? Now the
question is who's going to be the right tackle. It's
gotten to the point where Josh Simmons is cemented in
there as the Chiefs left tackle and they got Jawan
Taylor and Jalen Moore competing at right tackle, which means
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you're either going to have a backup swing tackle making
fifteen million per year or twenty million per year, which
is a pretty good problem to have when you consider
how the season ended last year for.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Them, So it's interesting the NFC North, the Bears have
been noisy, the Vikings have been noisy, the Lions lost
their coordinators, and you're at the Green Bay camp.
Speaker 5 (02:17):
It may be the quietest camp.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
And I haven't heard a story from the Green Bay
Packers camp, which I think both you and I love
that they're just you know, and I think we forget
that Jordan Love wasn't healthy for two different times during
the year and they won double figure games. What was
your takeaway on the very very quiet Green Bay Packer camp.
Speaker 4 (02:38):
Yeah, I mean just talking to Jordan like, I mean,
really until the end of the year, he wasn't fully
healthy because you had the need, then you had the groin,
and so he was really figuring out how to play
with these injuries through a good portion of the year.
And I know he's been criticized that he wasn't as
good as he was at the end of the year before,
but they still made the playoffs and they were still
competitive with the Super Bowl champions when they got there,
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So you know, look like I think Jordan Love is
in this grouping of players with the Packers where they
feel like they've done a good job putting a lot
of solid guys in the roster, right, and they've got
a lot of these guys who are going to be
up for contracts in the next few years. So can
the good players in their roster become great players? And
you know, as in the receiver room with guys like
D'antavian Wicks and Jayden Ree, Christian Watson when he comes
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back off the injury, Matthew Golden coming in from Texas.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
What does the left tackle position look like? Is it
Rashid Walker?
Speaker 4 (03:28):
Is it Jordan Morgan who's been playing guard for them
as a former first round pick?
Speaker 3 (03:32):
On defense?
Speaker 4 (03:33):
They've got four first round picks on their defensive line
between van Ness, Gary Clark and Wyatt?
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Is there a fifteen SAT guy in that group?
Speaker 4 (03:42):
And then at corner you got a guy like Bo
Melton moving over from the offensive side. So they feel
really good about their roster across the board like there
aren't a lot of holes there. Drian Cooper's another name
I should mention, a guy who's got really high ceiling.
And now I think for the Packers it's if they're
going to go from being a nine or a ten
or eleven team to being a twelve or thirteen win
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team that's.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
Playing home games in the playoffs.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
I think they're going to need a handful of those
guys to elevate from being pretty good players on a
balanced roster to becoming great players.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
So Cincinnati Bengals the last year, Joe Burrow did not
even hide. He was perpetually grumpy. And I think a
lot of it was he knew he's sending a signal
do we have to not? Let's get Trey Hendrickson in there.
What was your takeaway a couple of days in Cincinnati's camp.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
But the offense is going to be incredible. The ball
hit the ground twice at the practice that I was at.
And yes, it's Joe Burrow and it's Jamar Chase and
as Te Higgins who have a chance to be intergalactic together.
But it's also smaller things like a Marius MEM's coming
back at offensive tackle, wildly.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
Talented, just needs to play.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
Mike Disicky is the first time they've had a pass
catching tight ending consecutive season since Joe Burrow has been there.
Andrea Savis, the Hepta athlete from Princeton who really earned
Burrow's trust last year, Jermaine Burton, He's got a really
high ceiling. It looks like maybe he's growing up a
little bit. Chase Brown looks like he can be the
guy in the backfield. So they put all of it together,
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the offense is going to be off the charts. I
think Burrow's got a chance to be the MVP of
the league. And then the question becomes, can they be
middle of the pack after being really bad defensively last year.
A lot of that's going to come down to the
new coordinator now Gold, and then the two edge rushers.
To me, Trey Hendrickson, what does he look like when
he gets back. I think they will get him signed,
and then Shamar Stewart, the rookie at of Texas A
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and M. If they can just be average on defense,
I think they have a chance to come out of
the AFC. Remember call Hing They're the last team other
than the Chiefs come out of the AFC. So the
offense should be off the charts. It's just can they
be middle of the pack on defense? That might be
good enough.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Every single reporter so I have to ask you this.
There's gone to the Broncos camp, There's gone to Denver's
Camp has come out of there too and just gone, Man,
they like their team. Is that the vibe you got?
Speaker 5 (05:59):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (05:59):
Absolutely, and look like the number one defense in the league.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
Last year we got Vance Joseph coming back, which is
a luxury because he was up for some head coaching jobs,
and they're adding Drake Greenlawn Tallanoah Funga. It's the middle
of the defense. Those are two guys. The Niners did
not want to lose the cap realities there in San Francisco,
which forced them to let those guys go. So you've
got this defense that should be off the charts. And
I'm not sure bo Nix gets the credit for the
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job that he did last year because I mean Colins
just you know, I look at the history of it, right,
like the young quarterbacks who played really well. Patrick Mahomes
had Tyreek Hill when he was young, Josh Allen had
Stefan Diggs when he was young. Is there a guy
I'm not saying Courtland Sutton and Marvin Mims and those
guys can't play, but is there a guy who is
like this great player that's really lifting bow up? Or
(06:46):
did Boa just play really well with a good not
great group around him?
Speaker 3 (06:49):
I think it's the latter. And now you add RJ.
Speaker 4 (06:51):
Harvey, who they think a lot of you know from UCF,
the running back that got in the second round. You
add Evan Ingram brings him an element at tight end
they haven't had, so like I think the Broncos gonna
be right there in the mix. The question to me
is what happens in the AFCU West where I think,
you know, the top three teams there could cannibalize each other.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
And I think by the end of the year the
Raiders are going to be tough out too.
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Speaker 5 (07:52):
What I'm a little surprised.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
Terry mclaurin's been such a good human being, there's been
such a leader, durable. I mean, he goes hand in
hand with Jaden Daniels. I'm a little surprised at the
holdout what's happened, it's going to transpire here. I'm shocked
by the way because I think Adam Peters is really smart.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
Yeah here, here's what I would say.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
I think part of it is like frustration from Terry
because he knows the value that he's provided that franchise.
And I think in some ways it becomes harder to
sign a guy like that because they know how much
they put in right like so beyond just being a
great receiver, consistent as hell, a great teammate, he's been
the bellweather through some real storms there, you know, since
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twenty nineteen. He was there for Gruden to Rivera, there
for Rivera to Quinn, there for the ownership change, there
for the nickname change. And I think because of that,
like you know, he feels and rightfully so that he
should be rewarded at the highest level. Meanwhile, you've got
an organization that is becoming increasingly data driven under new ownership,
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and Adam Peters and Dan Quinn have done a great job,
but they've been very disciplined in how they handle assets.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
And so I think it's sort of.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
That the player knowing I'm worth the world to them,
and I'm a symbolic of what they've been trying to
build here and finally got built last year. And on
the other side, you might have some people in the
front office that are like, we love Terry, there's nothing
we don't like about Terry, but he's going to be
thirty in September, and what does that mean for him
going forward. I'm personally an opinion that you aren't going
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to regret paying Terry McLaurin two or three years from now.
I have a really hard I've seen that scenario, but
it is in a little bit of a tough spot.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
And well, if I asked you about J. J. McCarthy,
I'm gonna stay away from that. Final question. The shaduor
Sanders stuff is I mean, it got so zany this
week there was the Browns are sabotaging him discussion, which
like they need him to be good and they got
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to get out from under that ridiculous to Sean Watson thing.
So he plays tomorrow. I can't wait to watch him.
I'm rooting for the kid. What are you hearing in Cleveland?
Speaker 4 (10:07):
Just that he when he came in, he was pretty
far behind and that there was a sizable gap between
him and Dylan Gabriel just from a football no how standpoint,
from an operation of the offense standpoint, and that's without
even mentioning the gap between him and the two veterans there,
Joe Flacco and Kenny Pickett.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
So he had a lot of ground to make up
for sure.
Speaker 4 (10:30):
You know, teams and I think I told you this
call on teams before the draft were surprised how far
behind he was in that in those areas, and that
showed up right away. He's worked hard to try and
catch up. I think the reason why he hasn't gotten
first team reps right, and that's been a big thing
in Cleveland. Why is Dylan Gabriel getting the first team reps?
And he doesn't look great, but she do or isn't.
I think the main reason why is because, to be
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fair to the other ten guys in the huddle, the
veterans who are getting ready for a season. You need
to have somebody who can step in there and operate
the offense efficient and I just don't think Chador has
gotten there yet. Now by happenstance, he winds up getting
the shot to start tomorrow. I think playing well with
the twos and the threes against the Panther starters could
buy him some more opportunities in practice. And that's the
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first thing he needs now is more opportunities in practice.
But having to get caught up just from a football
no house standpoint is why he's been behind since the
spring at the Chiefs camp.
Speaker 5 (11:23):
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Speaker 1 (11:25):
Appreciate it, all right, thanks Colin. Hustling forrest and we
do appreciate that. J.
Speaker 5 (11:30):
Mack with the news.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
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Speaker 7 (11:37):
All right, Colin, let's start with Kevin O'Connell and the Vikings.
You know, he's had a lot of regular season success
with this squad. I mean, Sam Darnold, it's been awesome. However,
he does not have a playoff win. Now he's got
JJ McCarthy at quarterback. Here's O'Connell's loftiest goal for this season.
Speaker 8 (11:56):
As I told our team when we came back to
training camp, I think the foundation's been set, and I
think that a lot of the players that we've been
able to either sign him for agency or were fortunate
to draft in the draft, they're here and they understand
that they're now part of building that up to either
in even greater heights. But the next step for this
organization is becoming, in my opinion, championship worthy.
Speaker 5 (12:21):
Yeah. I think.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Oh, I think it's an unfair criticism that he hasn't
won a playoff game.
Speaker 6 (12:28):
Well, Colin, sorry, it's not a criticism, it's just a fact.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
Yeah, yeah, but it's it's slanted and the way it's
delivered is, you know, he hasn't won a playoff game.
I take his Sam Donald, ninety percent of fans in
the league had given up on him.
Speaker 5 (12:42):
He was an MVP leader week fourteen. Yeah, he did it.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
Kevin O'Connell had a remarkable to build up Donald's confidence.
I mean, Sam Donald was beaten up when he went
to San Francisco to back up Rock Perty.
Speaker 5 (12:55):
He was upstairs. He was beaten up.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Yeah, all right?
Speaker 7 (12:59):
Under the next Jordan Love, Colin, Green Bay Packers a
bit of a sexy Super Bowl pick. I think we'll
be talking about them in the next segment. Now, one
interesting note on Jordan Love is he only ran the
ball twenty five times last season.
Speaker 6 (13:12):
Was that due to injuries? Was that due to the.
Speaker 7 (13:15):
Coach wanted to win from the pocket. Well, here's Jordan
Love talking about running more this season. You look back
and you're like, man, I gotta took off and run.
Love said, a little of it is just understanding what
the defense is doing, what coverage we're getting here, how
the defensive line might be playing with some of these
games started twisting and doing different things. Colin, It sounds
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like Love wants to win with his legs a little
more this season. He ran fifty times two years ago,
cut in half to twenty five now. He did have
a couple of injuries. They suffered miss I believe two
games this season.
Speaker 6 (13:52):
Your thoughts on Jordan Love wanting to.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
Run more, Well, I think when you're Jordan Love, you
should let you should go about three times a game.
And I always feel that's my homes He's gonna smoke
you twice in the second half. Keep you honest in
the first half. If you run three times a game,
that's fifty one times. I'm totally comfortable with that.
Speaker 7 (14:12):
Final story, Colin is the Travis Hunter experiment in Jacksonville.
Speaker 6 (14:17):
Trevor Lawrence, Oh, he is a little bit biased.
Speaker 7 (14:20):
But when he was asked about Travis Hunter playing both ways,
and Lawrence had an opinion, you won't be surprised.
Speaker 9 (14:27):
He's so talented man, it's hard to keep him off
the field. Selfishly, yeah, I definitely want to want offense more.
That's almost like do you want to you want to
come catch touchdowns or you want to maybe break up
a pass or to a game like, yeah, that's incision
you gotta make. So now he'll he'll make plays no
matter where he's at, honestly, and of course as a quarterback,
I hope he plays more offense. But you know, wherever
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he needs to play to make our team better, as
he will make us better is what's going to happen.
Speaker 5 (14:53):
So all for whatever that is, you.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
Know, a little pressure on Trevor this year, he's got
two star receivers. Travis will be his star right out
of the gate. Brian Thomas was excellent. Now it's time
for Travis Trevor. Trevor dust a healthy too, So I
don't buy the excuses. He's got an offensive coach, two weapons.
I don't think their all line is bad. I think
it's time. They've had too many good draft picks. They
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got too much talent on that team, and the division's
week they need to vie with Houston for the division title.
Speaker 7 (15:22):
Yeah, I totally agree, and sorry for the solemn tone,
but it's increasingly looking like Slater.
Speaker 6 (15:28):
It's an ACL that's the fear for the Chargers. That
just sucks.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Yikes.
Speaker 5 (15:34):
Jmack with the news.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
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Speaker 1 (15:51):
All Right, Last week, the Hall of Fame game Shader
Sanders Tomorrow gets his first start. It may only be
the preseason, but Jay knows, he knows how the playoffs
are going to settle these way ahead of us here
in early August. So we call this segment Tomorrow's Headlines Today.
Speaker 5 (16:14):
Let's roll it.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
What will the headline be for the number seven seed,
the final seed in the NFC playoffs.
Speaker 6 (16:21):
Right, So we're working backwards here.
Speaker 7 (16:22):
There are some surprises because you, as you've taught me
in the last few years around the show, there's a
lot of new playoff teams every year, some we don't
see coming. So the number seven seed of the NFC,
the headline will b Marvin the Martian cosmic quarterback connection
disrupts NFC universe. I have the Arizona Cardinals sneaking in
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as the number seven seed. Marvin Harrison obviously will make
a massive leap in year two, really struggled as a rookie.
But Colin, that offense should be sick in year three
under Jonathan Gannon, Kyler Murray sounds like.
Speaker 6 (16:58):
He's gotten back to the books if you will. Obviously,
McBride's one of the best tight ends in the league.
Speaker 7 (17:02):
The run game is formidable, Colin. This is a team
that played everybody tough last year. Yeah, they came out
of the gate, they were fighting hard. The schedule was
just difficult. Now, obviously you get a much better schedule,
you get the offensive continuity. I have currently all eleven
starters are back from last year. Currently that's a projection.
That's very good news. Hey, Arizona sneaking in.
Speaker 6 (17:25):
As the seventh seed.
Speaker 5 (17:26):
Don't hate it, you know.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
I like Tyler Murray Tomorrow's headlines today. What's the number
sixth seed in the NF seed.
Speaker 7 (17:34):
This team's not gonna sneak up on anybody in year two.
But they also continuity is a theme for me. They
had a really good year last year. I think they
do most of it again. The headline for the number
six seed will be Federal Reserved Commanders.
Speaker 6 (17:50):
Keep the rate of interest high. Sorry for the political jargon,
but it's funny.
Speaker 4 (17:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (17:56):
So I like Washington a lot.
Speaker 7 (17:58):
Listen, man, you had Deebo, Samuel Laramie Tunsel like those
are big time pickups. Obviously, the defense still has holes,
and it would be remiss of me not to mention
that Washington was pretty damn lucky on fourth down last year,
one of the best fourth down seasons the league has
ever seen. They were incredible in the red zone. Going
to be tough to duplicate that. And as we often
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talk about Colin, when you've seen a year of film
on Jamie Daniels and he killed almost everyone, a lot
of defensive coordinators will be adjusting to Daniels. He's not
going to be able to scoot and scramble for as
many first downs as he did last year. Remember this guy,
Colin was doing things on third down to set up
fourth down so he could run for it up fourth down.
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And if you remember early in the season against Tampa,
I think it was a season opener. He was running
a lot and getting hit and I was like, there's
no way this is sustainable. And he started to pull
back on the running, started to win from the pocket
as long as mclaurin's in, And I think it's going
to be fine. You ad deebo, I think Washington's good.
I have them as the sixth seed in the NFC.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
Tomorrow's headlines today, the five seed in the NF seed.
Speaker 6 (19:06):
Yeah, this one's a noe brainer. I think you have
them a little higher.
Speaker 7 (19:09):
We've got them going back to the playoffs with their
veteran quarterback. The headline for the fifth seed will be
Stafford infection, rams quarterback spreads winning culture again. Yes, Matthew Stafford.
I'm of the belief he's going to be fine. This
back thing is just chatter. Obviously, if that goes awry,
that would be very, very bad news for the Rams.
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But DeVante Adams, I mean I saw a list that
said he was the number one pickup of any team
in the offside.
Speaker 5 (19:37):
I think that they've been really, really pleased.
Speaker 6 (19:40):
Yeah, and you got Puka Nakua, who is you know?
Speaker 7 (19:42):
I see some people betting him for Offensive Player of
the Year, like he could put up massive numbers as
defenses have to adjust for DeVante. Kyron Williams back in
the fold, you love the defense. I feel like you're
the agent for Jared Verse, sometimes hyping him up on
every show. But this team is legit and as as
we've noted many times, they pushed Philly harder than anybody
in that playoff game. Stafford was driving I think in
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the red zone. Yeah for the go ahead score. Tomorrow's
headlines today the number four seed. I got a feeling
where it's gone in the NFC.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
Right.
Speaker 7 (20:15):
So now we've got the division winners, and I know
these guys won the Super Bowl. I don't think it's
going to be as easy. I don't The headline for
the number four seed will be the Philadelphia Eagles got
her late than never Eagles pop their clutch after slow start.
I do think there will be a little struggles out
of the gate for Philly. Obviously the target on their
(20:36):
back after winning the Super Bowl. The schedule is brutal.
Let's just be upfront with that. They have one of
the toughest schedules in the NFC. I do still think
they win the Division colin largely because I don't trust
the Giants and I don't think much of the Cowboys.
Speaker 6 (20:49):
I think Washington has as tough a schedule or tougher
than than Philly.
Speaker 7 (20:53):
So I've got the Eagles right around ten wins. Would
not be surprised if it's nine. Listen, they're not going
to be the juggernaut that we saw in the playoffs. Sore,
just not okay. They lost several guys on defense. Jalen
Hurts another offensive coordinator, which is seemingly the case every
year for him.
Speaker 6 (21:10):
So I think the Eagles are very good.
Speaker 7 (21:12):
It's just tough for me to start talking repeat number
one seed and all that. I think they slide in
as the four seed in the Nfcit.
Speaker 5 (21:17):
Yeah, and NFC is getting better every year.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
Tomorrow's headlines today, let's go number three seed in the
National Football.
Speaker 7 (21:24):
Coll here's when we start to get a little bit spicy.
Speaker 6 (21:27):
I know you're waiting for your bears. And where the
Vikings jam?
Speaker 4 (21:30):
Now?
Speaker 6 (21:30):
Where the Vikings?
Speaker 7 (21:31):
The headline for the number three seed in the NFC
will be watched in your wallet. New gold card increases
quarterback spinning. Yes, I like the Matthew Golden pick up
for the Packers. I have them Packers winning the division now, Colin,
if you are tracking closely, you didn't see any walkcard
teams out of the NFC North. I think the Packers
(21:52):
now win the division. I've come around here in August offseason.
Speaker 6 (21:55):
I love Minnesota starting to.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
Back off just a little.
Speaker 7 (21:59):
I think this Packer offense is going to be a machine.
Jordan Love, remember, was not healthy last year and the
opener I think it was the last play of the game,
throwing a hail Mary against Philly got twisted up. Was
never really the same last year. What's he gonna be
with a healthy Watson Golden in the mix. There's a
lot to like about the Packers offense. And let's be real, Lafleur,
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I know we haven't talked about him. If you do
a top ten list of coaches, he's got to be
top five.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
In the league.
Speaker 5 (22:26):
Yeah, no, Matt knows what he's doing.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
Two more Tomorrow's headlines today very interesting, I think something
pretty interesting.
Speaker 5 (22:37):
But the number two seed is coming.
Speaker 7 (22:39):
So this is a team you never like to bet
on because you just lack of consistency has been there.
Speaker 6 (22:46):
Bugaboo.
Speaker 7 (22:46):
That changes the headline for the number two seed in
the NFC Will b Bijon, voyage, Swift family, Robinson's sale
pass mid tier Piers.
Speaker 6 (22:59):
Yes, I'm doing it.
Speaker 7 (23:01):
I'm all in on the Atlanta Falcons wowering the number
two seed in the NFC. Now, a lot of it
has to do with their offseason. I know people didn't
like that draft trade. It could hurt them down the road.
But Colin, when you're one of the worst teams getting
to the quarterback, you add three edge rushers in the
offseason Leonard Floyd and then two in the draft, I
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love it. That's what you got to do. Their back
end held down really well in the secondary. And I
just want to remind people that Kirk Cousins, for as
bad as he was last year, murdered the Tampa Bay
Buccaneers in both me just crushed them.
Speaker 6 (23:36):
And oh, by.
Speaker 7 (23:37):
The way, just by the bye Atlanta bench Cousins in
favor of Pennicks. So Cousins wasn't even good through a
league leading. This number is crazy. Four interceptions in the
final two minutes of games. But Kirk Cousins just killed Atlanta.
Now you upgrade with Pennix. I like what I saw
in the limited edition late in the season. I have
(23:57):
Atlanta doing well and Tampa just a little too much.
Change another oc. By the way, Tampa. You know who
faced the most backup quarterbacks last year? Tampa Bay went
four and one against backups. Okay, I think Atlanta wins
a division. Get on board with the Falcons column.
Speaker 5 (24:12):
You pick Atlanta to win the division.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
I just moved all my money to bitcoin, so we're
in the same boat. Finally, Atmorrows headlines today, I know
what it is. I just want to see the headline.
Speaker 6 (24:25):
You know what it is. Come on, They're going to
be number one.
Speaker 7 (24:27):
The schedule is the easiest seed in the NFL by
any metric you want. The headline for the number one
seed in the NFC will be no brock Bottom party
helps Niners reach their ceiling. Start to feel at Colin
It's forty nine Ers season coming for you. I know
right now the wide receiver room has everybody panicking. They're
(24:48):
picking up guys off the scrap heap because they're like, oh,
wait a minute, Brandan Ayuk's not ready yet. Jawan Jennings
is kind of beefing with us Ricky Piersoll like we
need more. So there is some concern about the wide
receiver room. You're concerned about the defense. I've just put
my faith in Brock Purdy. The return of Christian McCaffrey
kind of a big deal. Obviously, your boy George Kittle
(25:08):
shotgunner of Beers still any elite tight end.
Speaker 6 (25:12):
I love this team. I'm thinking twelve or thirteen wins.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
Yeah, you know what, what pick is really interesting? And
I thought your nugget was great. Arizona. I think Gannon's
one of those guys that people in the league now
he's good, but we don't talk. I mean, the Rams
are high profile, the Niners are high profile. You know,
Seattle's got donald and now that coach from the Ravens McDonald.
So I let people talk about Seattle. Arizona is sneaking
(25:36):
in they you know, we forget sometimes Marvin Harrison came
into the league he and you know, if you believe
the rumors that Kyler Murray is not a grinder, is
it possible that Marvin Harrison and Kyler Murray needed a
full year together right to be great. I think that's
a really interesting pick because I like their personnel, I
(25:57):
really do. I think they've got five six really elite players,
and I'm I'm sorry, but Marvin Harrison Junior is going
to be a really good player. But if you believe
the rumors that Kyler's not a film grinder, then you
could say, well, it was gonna It's gonna take a
little longer for that to work. I don't love your
Atlanta pick, but the divisions so weak it could certainly.
I do think Pennix is excellent, but the Arizona pick
(26:21):
took a little guts in a division with McVeigh and.
Speaker 5 (26:23):
Shanahan and a coach in Seattle they like. I kind
of like that pick.
Speaker 7 (26:27):
So I have three new teams Niners, which I guess
they're new because they were injured last year, Falcons and Cardinals,
so three of the seven new. I don't know, you
don't seem that surprised, Uh no, Lion.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
I mean, if you if I if I I still
have a couple of weeks to make my final pick Listen,
Albert Breer is the second person that's told me Cincinnati's
offense looks absolutely insane, and the truth is Cleveland's bad.
So they're gonna win two games there, and I think
they're gonna beat Pittsburgh twice. So Cincinnati is one of
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those teams that didn't make it in. You know, it's
hard for me to go against Burrow, who I thought
last year for many weeks was the best player in
the league. And I think the Niners schedule. I do
worry though. Sala helps Halfunga and Greenlaw. Halfunga is a
great player, so is Greenlaw. If Bosa gets hurt, that
defense is average j Max, and tomorrow we'll see it's
(27:26):
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