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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
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Speaker 1 (00:24):
Well, every year, I pick a team that I think
is going to come close to doubling their wins, and
I've been on about a four year streak, and the
Patriots were that team this year.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
For a lot of reasons.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
One, I didn't like the direction of the Dolphins or
the Jets, and I thought they could go four and
oh and I also think so much of Mike Frable,
who's just a really bright guy. Everybody I've ever known
that knows Mike just instantly connects with him. Drew Bledsone
knows him. They actually played together for a year and
Drew is joining us undisclosed location in the Northwest. I'm jealous,
(00:54):
that's all I'm gonna say. A beautiful, beautiful place. So
you were only a team eight for a year, but
everybody I know that's played with him or been in
a staff. He just is you know, Drew. Some guys
just have a connect ability. And so tell me about
your relationship with Rabel in the year you played with him.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
You know, it's funny because I only played with Mike
for one year, but it seems like we were teammates
for like five or six years. You know, we just
had a great connection personally. You know, it's not a
surprise to me or to anybody that knows Mike that
he's had great success as a coach. You know, one
funny thing about Mike is he just had so damn
much energy as a player. You know, he would you know,
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in the middle of practice, he would go run scout team,
kickoff coverage just to burn off some energy. I've compared
him to like a like a labrador, you know, like
like you got to run him, you know, like like
you had to run him. And honestly, that's how Rabes
ended up catching all those touchdowns that he caught. I
get credit for those, call him because before games, he
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had to burn off energy before NFL games, So I
would go out and throw the ball to him in
pregame and that's when you know, Charlie Wise and Belichick
saw him running around and decided to put him in
on offense.
Speaker 5 (02:08):
So he owes me for all of those touchdown cans.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
He certainly does. I will say Drake May, I liked
him at Carolina. I just thought he was kind of rough.
But you know, Vrabel kept saying he just needs to
understand you got to be a leader. On Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday,
I was almost like saying.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
I love you.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
This is your team now. But I do think Drew
you know this. When you go to an NFL team,
you're you're the youngest guy on the team for the
first two or three years, and yet your coach is like,
all right, be a leader. You're talking to thirty seven
year old left tackles. Give me a little your experience
in Drake May, when you are a young guy looking
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older players in the face and like I need you
to do this, this, and this.
Speaker 5 (02:51):
God, it was intimidating. Man. I mean I was twenty one.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
I just turned twenty one stepping into the huddle with
grown ass men like these people have families and investment portfolios,
you know, and I'm just fresh out of college and
that's where that's where Drake is. But you know, but
being a leader doesn't mean you have to be vocal
right away. You know you can initially, you just get
the job done. You show up early, you stay late,
you work hard, you try to win the wind sprints,
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you try to do all the little things that you
can do physically, and then you earn the right to
be heard vocally. Uh and uh, you know, but watching
watching watching Drake and his progression, you know, uh, it's
I think the comparisons and I you know, look, we're
not going to put the guy in the Hall of
Fame quite yet, but the comparisons to Josh Allen are
I think are very real. You know, you remember Josh's
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you know, first year Uh, you know, a lot of interceptions,
pretty rough around the edges, accuracy maybe wasn't great, and
then you watched his progression and now he's you know,
certainly in the conversation for best in the game.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
And I think the comparisons between Drake may And and
Josh Allen are real.
Speaker 5 (03:52):
I really do. And and that's high.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
Praise for Drake as just a second year player, but
I think that's very real.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
So you know, this happens in the NFL from time
to time. I've always we all know coaches matter and
quarterbacks are the key, but coordinators matter. And right now,
Philly's got talent, but they have no identity. They don't
know what the hell they are. And it's almost like,
you know, they've had so much success, it's like, guys,
you're kind of a blue collar, punch in the mouth offense.
That's kind of what you are. Don't be bashful again
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when you watch Philly and you're like, how does Saquan
have six carries? Is it hard? Sometimes, Drew when you
could be winning or losing, and you kind of lose
who you are as an offense. Have you ever been
in a spot like that? You're like, I know I
got the players, but we forgot what we are.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
Yeah, you know, I think Philly. You're exactly right. They
are a punchy in the mouth. Run the football, play defense,
play action, you know, big play. You know a team
and that's you know, that's that's who they are.
Speaker 5 (04:50):
You know.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
But in order to you know, in order to play
that way though, you have to be remarkably consistent, you know,
you you know, you have to. You have to convert
third down so you can keep running the football. You know,
you've got get the defensive stops. You've got to be
you know, you've got to be on schedule, you know,
and we you know, meaning you know, get four yards
on first down, get three or four yards on second down,
so your third down, so you can run the ball,
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and you know, you can execute the touch push and
do all of those things. And so you just have
to be remarkably consistent with all of your execution in
order to play that way. And I just think they're
seeing a little bit of inconsistency out of the out
of the Eagles offense right now.
Speaker 5 (05:24):
Now you know, they're four and.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
One, I don't know, and they played you know, the
Broncos are a good football team and you know, so
there's no reason to panic, uh, you know, with what's
going on with the Eagles. But but their identity is
their identity, you know, and it's it's fitting for Philly
because that's what Philly is is a city, you know,
it's a blue collar city.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (05:42):
And that's the way the Eagles.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
But they have to be remarkably consistent offensively to play
the style that they're playing.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
So you are the rare, like Peyton Manning, you're a
five star high school kid. You're a great college guy.
You're a top draft pick. So you didn't, like Baker
Mayfield had to walk on and a lot lot of
these guys transfer.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
You didn't have that nasty chip on the shoulder.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
You may have had it from how you were treated
by somebody else, but you came in like you're the
guy you're gonna get paid.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
That's not your life.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
And I said, I think chip on the shoulder is
important as long as it doesn't consume you and define you.
I thought it kind of defined Baker for about three years.
It's like, dude, you don't have to go to the
press conference every week and pick a fight like you
Sometimes it's okay to be like, hey, I'm telling a guy.
Baker and Sam yesterday, I had a lot of critics
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to watch them yesterday. I'm like, I almost wonder if
all the crap they went through is actually why they're
so good.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
Do you buy that?
Speaker 4 (06:44):
I think there's something to that, Colin. You know, you
look at Baker and I was curious to see how
he handled that, you know, because he was that underdog guy,
the walk on that had to transfer and had to
move schools and then all.
Speaker 5 (06:54):
Of a sudden, you know, top draft pick.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
And you know, it's hard to have a chip on
your shoulder when you're the number one over draft pick
that doesn't really fly. People aren't aren't looking down on
you anymore. And I think that's an adjustment. But I
think that's kind of just how he's wired. And it's
kind of the way he plays. You know, he plays
a little bit like Farv you know, where he just
you know, he kind of needs to get hit, he
needs to run around. He needs to be a football player,
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you know, rather than just a you know, a game
manager type of quarterback.
Speaker 5 (07:20):
And uh, that's when he's at his best, I think.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
And and so you know, sometimes you have to manufacture.
Speaker 5 (07:26):
That chip on your shoulder.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
Uh and uh you know, so maybe that's why Baker
was so at times so contentious with the media, because
he was just trying to create this uh chip on
his shoulder when it when it wasn't actually real.
Speaker 5 (07:38):
But but the guy's got real arm talent.
Speaker 4 (07:40):
You know, like you look at it like he's a
smaller guy, but you look at the throws he makes.
Speaker 5 (07:44):
Uh, you know, this guy he can spin it. You know,
this is not this is.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
Not a guy that's getting by on you know, average ability.
Speaker 5 (07:51):
He can really throw the ball.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
Uh you know, so uh you know, for him to
be looked at as this uh this underdog anymore, I
don't think is accurate. I think I do think he's
one of the elite guys in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
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Speaker 1 (08:33):
So I want to kind of end it on this
is that Belichick is not working in college and I
love college football.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
I love it.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
And my theory theory is always once you buy into
your own supply, you're done. It doesn't matter how smart
you are or once you get rigid. The late Bobby
Knight's like, I'm not gonna do one and done's well, bro,
everybody else is doing them.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
You know, you got it. You gotta put your arm
around it.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
And Belichick, you know, he said later in his career,
it's like, there's certain guys that don't want to coach.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
Well, you gotta you need talent.
Speaker 8 (09:03):
He can't.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
You're buying into your own hype. Vrabel is about the
players Bill became about Bill. I watch him in college
and my takeaway is Bill just wants to coach who
he wants to coach. And I didn't think he would
dominate college football. But are you surprised just how bad
it's been. You you, you know, you obviously know him.
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It's it's just, I mean, college football is kind of
a young guy's game. He may just not be he
may not work at this level.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
Drew, Yeah, you know, I think it's it's tough, Colin.
And Bill is obviously brilliant, there's no getting around that.
But he also put together teams in New England that
were brilliant. You know, you look at the guys on
the defenses that he coached and the you know, you
got you know, really brilliant guys.
Speaker 5 (09:51):
Rabel was one of those guys.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
You know, Teddy Bruski, you know ty law Lawyer, Molloy,
Rodney Harrison. You know, you look at all of these
guys that he was coaching. You know, he had brilliant
guys with him, and that was that really worked well
for him because Bill's a brilliant guy. But you have
to have brilliant players in order to, you know, to
to really showcase that. And I also just think, man,
you know, you just look at the optics. And I'm
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not piling on Bill here, but you know, you're you're
gonna go sit in the living room with a seventeen
year old, you know. Do you want to go play
for Bill Belichick as a seventeen year old, you know?
Or do you want to go, you know, play for
the Oregon Ducks or do you want to go and
trust me, I hate the Ducks, but but but I
would love to play for Dan Lanning, you know. And
you just look at that, uh what what he's dealing with.
(10:36):
I don't think it's tough for him. Settled down, but sorry,
my dog's going to attack. My dog's going to attack.
But I think, uh, you know, I think with Uh,
it's just it's an up it's an uphill battle for
him because he's got to surround him you himself with
you know, really brilliant players in order to execute the
stuff that he wants to do.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
By the way, what would your dog possibly be barking at?
What's your dog's name?
Speaker 5 (11:00):
That's Tyson. He's a trained killer.
Speaker 4 (11:02):
He's uh, yeah, he's he's going to go chase the
bears off of our property up here and just keep
us safe.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
Okay, I'm gonna say, I know where you're at. There's
not a lot to bark at where you're at right now.
It's beautiful.
Speaker 5 (11:14):
Yeah, no, it's good. But he keeps us safe. Man.
We sleep, we sleep tight at night and know we
have this little attack on.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
I'm going to end with this. Dak Prescott.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
I never thought he was a great arm talent, but
he did something very early in his career and I
got so much crud for this. He was walking up
and down the sideline and he walked by a garbage cannon.
There was a piece of cup on the ground, and
he stopped and he went back and he grabbed it
and he put it in the garbage and I thought, Okay,
that's just a he's conscientious. And I've always thought Jerry
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Jones a bit of a circus. It's high profile Jerry.
He never says the wrong thing. And I've been on
this for years and people crushed me for this, but
my whole take is quarterback's different. Barely need you to
be thirty nine years old at twenty two, And I
look at Dak right now, and Dallas is a circus
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about every other week. I don't know, is the MVP
Like I'm always blown away by his maybe EQ or maturity.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
How do you view Dak?
Speaker 4 (12:20):
You know, Colin, there was one thing that was really
really telling, and it's something that you can look at
with players. You look at how their teammates react to them, right,
and it was really telling.
Speaker 5 (12:32):
You remember when Dak got hurt a few years back.
Speaker 4 (12:35):
His teammates were in tears when when when Dak went down,
and so you know that really tells you everything you
need to know about who the guy is and who
he represents to his team and to his teammates. You
know they were they were literally you know, guys were
crying when Dak got hurt, and you know that he
just he's a great leader for that team. He's a
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great stabilizer for that team. He was a growth coming in.
You know, when you say you want a thirty nine
year old when you're twenty one or twenty two years old,
that's who he was coming into the league. He just
he showed maturity beyond his years and to be able
to be that person in underneath that circus tent that
the Cowboys tend to be, where all the eyes are
on you, whether people love you or hate you, they care.
Speaker 5 (13:18):
You know, it's like pitching for the Yankees.
Speaker 4 (13:19):
People either either love you or hate you and Dack
and Dak has been able to take all of that
and be a true stabilizing force for that team. And
to see what he did yesterday, you know, one of
the most important things that I always look at with
teams is how healthy is their offensive line. With three
offensive line, three starting offensive linemen down yesterday, I really
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felt like they were going to struggle, and Dak came
out and just lit him up, just absolutely lit him up.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
Yeah, so did I. I thought that Jets would be competitive.
I just blown away by what I'm seeing. I love
these stories of these quarterbacks. They get ten thousand hours.
It's Baker, it's darnold hell even Carson Wentz yesterday. These
guys get banged around and criticized and demoted.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
And Dak has gone through a lot in Dallas.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
He's an easy guy to root for, Drew Bledso Double
Back Winery, how is your year?
Speaker 5 (14:07):
We're almost done with harvest.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
It looks like another great harvest up in Walla, Wallat
So we've got an amazing team. You know, when you
talk about teams and cultures and all of that, we've
got a championship level team at the winery.
Speaker 5 (14:17):
These are our team there.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
But right now they're at the end of harvest, so
they're all really tired and really grumpy. So I tried
to take care of them, muff them up a little
bit because they're working, you know, eighteen hour twenty hour
days right now, so you know, it's it's it's a
little prickly, but man, they just continue to make amazing
wine for us and we're having a lot of fun
with it.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
Double Back. Look it up the Double Back Winery in Walla, Walla, Washington.
I don't think as many hosts I.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
Know where that's at exactly exactly. I can find not
many people.
Speaker 5 (14:48):
Not many people do. It's the end of the road.
Speaker 4 (14:50):
But it's a beautiful little town and we grow great
wine grapes up there.
Speaker 5 (14:54):
It's and it's my hometown. You know, I grew up there.
Speaker 4 (14:56):
So it's fun to be back there running a running
a cool business back in my hometown. And at the
end of the day we get to get to drink
some great wine and pretend like that's our job, which
is which is really fun.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
You don't age, my man, You look great. Thanks for
coming on.
Speaker 4 (15:09):
Likewise, Colin, always good to catch up anybody.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
The great Drew Blood so four time pro bowler, number
one pick. I can't tell you where he's at, but
I Google mapped it. He's got, you know what, he
has good taste and where to hang out, very good taste.
So he must be in Chicago. Then, well that's a
beautiful city. His is a little more Northwest Lake centric.
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He's he picks good spots. Jmack with a news no, no.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
Turn on the news.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
This is the headline.
Speaker 9 (15:43):
News, all right, Colin, Let's get started with that. Patriots
upset last night. They were big underdogs and the reason
they were able to pull it off was Stefon Diggs
went nuclear. Yeah, ten catches for a buck forty six.
After the game, he talked about the revenge angle.
Speaker 8 (15:59):
Colin, was this one personal for you?
Speaker 3 (16:03):
One hundred percent?
Speaker 7 (16:03):
Obviously.
Speaker 9 (16:04):
I love those guys, Still got a good relationship with
those guys.
Speaker 8 (16:07):
Got a lot of respect for him.
Speaker 10 (16:08):
But I love it game of football more and every
time I go, oh, I'm trying to prove it, not
only to them.
Speaker 8 (16:12):
But to myself.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
Well, they needed they needed that from him, Like, that's
one of those games we said coming into the season,
they were perimeter light good in the trench's perimeter light.
Those Hunter, Henry Stefan, Diggs, a couple running backs that
are decent.
Speaker 8 (16:26):
So you know, hardcore listeners of this show.
Speaker 9 (16:28):
No, we've talked around it, but there was an incident
between Alan and Diggs that went down and the New
England Patriots social media account they posted a picture of
Diggs side eyeing Josh.
Speaker 5 (16:40):
Did you see that?
Speaker 9 (16:41):
After the game? I'm like, why are you guys feeding
into this? Alan hasn't talked about it, Diggs hasn't. We know,
Diggs hasn't been the greatest teammate at other stops.
Speaker 8 (16:50):
I'll leave it at that.
Speaker 9 (16:51):
Impressive win for the Patriots, no doubt, still think the
Bills are.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
The better team, right, No, I mean, listen, do you
have bad Sundays like it's just Buffalo got into a
ball security issue, and I mean we saw it a
couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 5 (17:05):
You know, the.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
Colts had the Rams beat in LA and Ady Mitchell
fumbles it out right like this, every snap matters and
these fumbles.
Speaker 9 (17:14):
The penalties also were not great. Buffalo didn't seem exactly
buttoned up last night.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
You know you think you don't think it's an upset.
They were an eight and a half point favorite.
Speaker 8 (17:23):
Significant.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
That's about what the Giants will be as an underdog
to Philly.
Speaker 9 (17:27):
Let me ask you, so that division is Bills and
then Patriots or do you think the Patriots can challenge him?
Speaker 3 (17:31):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (17:32):
I think the Patriots are I think the Patriots that skin.
I think the Patriots have the better defense.
Speaker 9 (17:39):
And if you maybe combined the Jets and Dolphins, they
might have like a five hundred team, like you took
the best players from each of those or are they
still like a sub I.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Think the Jets are in the running for a number
one pick. I don't know what you do with Aaron Glenn.
Speaker 9 (17:51):
But handicapping the quarterbacks every week. Dante Moore, Carson Beck
looks really good.
Speaker 8 (17:57):
Miami's awesome. What's the problem with that.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
He's a little fin for me. But he has had
our in college. He got you know, he transferred out
of Georgia. He's been doubted. He's had to rebuild his
you know, his kind of.
Speaker 8 (18:08):
They got weight training programs in the NFL.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
Well, I know, I know, he's a little spin he's
he's I know, you know, creat team's good when you
get old, are you taking it out? No, it's great
for your cognitive ability and good symbiotic or you take
it as well. Of course, great for you and you know. Anyways,
let's move on to Oh.
Speaker 9 (18:25):
Gosh, I guess we're still talking about arch Mann income.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
This is rough, was it?
Speaker 9 (18:30):
I know there was major hype coming into the season,
but Bro, look at these throws.
Speaker 8 (18:34):
That's not even.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
Close and he holds the ball his lack.
Speaker 9 (18:37):
I mean, that's just such a bad miss.
Speaker 8 (18:39):
And I know people want to fend.
Speaker 9 (18:40):
Hey, hey, I'm off the arch Banning train.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
He was terrible.
Speaker 9 (18:45):
Two picks, took six sacks.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
Now they're old lines, not great. They're all lines not great,
but sometimes you have to trust your eyes. His ball
sometimes doesn't have the velocity. He has bad misses. The
old lines not great. He's barely sixty and he's holding
the ball too long. So is he's seeing the field.
I'm not sure he sees the field terrible enough. Well,
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there is something to be said. Bo Nick's a great example.
Bow last year held the ball a lot a little
about a second too long, bo Nicks. I was telling
the staff this morning. He plays so fast now, and
a lot of it is it takes you a while
to see the field. Arch Manning sat at Texas for
two years, didn't play. So you watch him and you're like,
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he just doesn't. I mean, you're waiting for it to pop,
but he holds the ball, he doesn't see it and
let it rip quick. Mahomes is legendary, see it, let
it rip go accurate like Mahomes is like Marino.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
It doesn't most guys can't do that.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
But I watched bow NICKX yesterday and I'm like, oh
my god, bo Nicks has sped his process up in
the last year. Arch just feels slow and kind of ponderous.
Speaker 8 (19:53):
Back then, yeah, it doesn't. And again I'm not going
to hammer the guy.
Speaker 9 (19:56):
It doesn't seem like he processes quickly enough, so you
need to be decid off his quarterback. I'm going look
at this, read this, read bing bang boo quickly and
he's it doesn't feel like it's clicking. And now I
will say Arch talk to the media afterward, and it's
worth listening to.
Speaker 8 (20:11):
As much as lost his sting stinger heart, this one's
going to hurt. It's always something to learn from.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
You win some and then you learn some. So you
got to learn from this and get better.
Speaker 9 (20:22):
I know you're all over the Texas message boards. There
is some chatter do we sit him down soft benching
if you will. Sark by the way, Sark is coming
out defending him hard. He's like, hey, who's going to
Ohio State and the swamp and winning? And it's like, well,
let's start.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
You open the season number one in the country.
Speaker 8 (20:40):
You're now out of the.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
Top twenty five.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
Well and again they started with four new offensive linemen,
but Oregon had to replace all eleven starters on offense,
and their offense looks unbelievable.
Speaker 8 (20:50):
I will say we saw this with Beck.
Speaker 9 (20:52):
He lost Bowers and lad McConkey and regressed, this guy's
missing golden and bonding.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
So Lancer Line is a guy that I've on the
show a lot, a lot of respect for Lance. He
works for like NFL dot Com, he's he watches. He
is a scout. I mean Lance, he does radio, but
he's also a scout. And he said Arch just doesn't
see the field. So when I watched the Florida game,
I sat there for about two and a half hours
watching a series of you know, UCLA Penn State at Washington, Maryland.
(21:19):
And that's my take is that it takes rookies in
the NFL. A lot of them don't see the field quickly.
Mahomes was rare. But when I watch Arch, he's not
seeing the play. He's holding the ball too long. And
then when you watch the the video behind him, it's like, no, bro,
that's open you have. I would say Arch is not
yet an anticipatory thrower. He has to see something absolutely open. Well,
(21:42):
that's not the NFL. And to be honest, when you
play Ohio State, you have to be an anticipatory thrower.
Because Ohio State's got first round draft picks on that defense.
Speaker 8 (21:54):
We're not saying he's cooked. He can still turn it
around anybody.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
Yeah, but he's just not. You can see it. It's
not it's not, it's just plotting.
Speaker 8 (22:02):
He's not there yet.
Speaker 9 (22:02):
Final story, Colin is the Major League Baseball Playoffs. The
AO Playoffs have been electric, except if you're a Yankees fan.
The Blue Jays have scored twenty three runs in two games, brutal.
The scene in Seattle last night was really good. Mariners
won their first playoff home game since two thousand and one.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
Crowd was nuts.
Speaker 8 (22:23):
Yeah, crowd was going bonkers.
Speaker 9 (22:24):
Today we get the Dodgers versus the Phillies on TBS,
Cubs Brewers on TBS, and then tomorrow on Fox. These
are the big ones Mariners, Tigers, and Blue Jays. Yankees,
Yankees are desperate, must win.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Look at those old throwback Mariner uniforms.
Speaker 8 (22:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
I don't go to eBay nostalgic about the Baron.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
Well, it was my favorite team growing up. I can
literally know I go. I went to the opener at
the Kingdome against the Angels in nineteen seventy seven.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
I can give you the starting lineup now.
Speaker 8 (22:54):
I think we're good on that.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
No, I got it, Bob.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
Stintson, then Danny Meyer, Jose Biaz, Craig Reynolds, Bill Stein,
Diego Sagie pitched, Rupert two P.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
Jones and center.
Speaker 8 (23:02):
Oh right, the producers A Jona Roberts.
Speaker 9 (23:04):
Get him out of this stop now, please joke keep going,
go on, come on.
Speaker 8 (23:10):
Who's the dh did.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
They Yeah, Lee Stanton, Oh wonderful. And they pitched.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
They faced Frank Tanana, Bobby Gritch, Joe Rudy or the Angels. Yeah,
Joe Rudy Homer to left field. I was in right field,
way up top of the stadium, the back then now
you're in the regul When I see those old Mariner uniforms,
that was my first team. I listened. They were on
kV I in Seattle. I listened every day. I want
to be a baseball announcer. So I read that our
team was terrible. We had a terrible staff. We had
(23:37):
a guy named Enrique Romo who went to the Pirates.
He was our number one, he was our number two starter.
He was Okay, anyway, I know I'm boring all of you,
but you know when you're it was nineteen seventy seven,
so I'm like a thirteen year old kid and I
lived for the Mariners.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
I mean I listened every night.
Speaker 9 (23:53):
Games on FS one Tomorrow, Blue Jays, Yankees.
Speaker 8 (23:55):
That's way more important than your marriage.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
Well right, I'm gonna tell you they're gonna blame Aaron Boone,
but you got to get people.
Speaker 9 (24:02):
You see the meme about Aaron Boone, like if he
didn't hit a home run against the Red Sox, he'd
be coaching the Savannah Bananas. That it's kind of funny.
I lacked on my line.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
Well, the Boone family, Bob Brett and that was the
highlight of his career. I mean as a player, I
just don't I think the Yankees are. They don't sacrifice,
they don't do small ball, bullpen, shaky, home run reliant.
I mean, they've spent a lot of money on this team,
and they they are completely reliant on John Carlos Stanton.
First of all, Garrett Cole got hurt before the season,
(24:31):
So you're not winning a World Series. I mean, if
you go to the games against the Dodgers in the
series last year when Cole didn't pitch, they looked totally out.
Speaker 8 (24:37):
He can win three straight. It's the Blue Jays, Okay.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
No, the Yankees. Let's be fair. I don't have it
in front of me. The Yankees have dominated the American
League Central. Take away the American League Central in the
last ten years. In the playoffs, didn't.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
Dominate, i'd be blue. Jays are pretty good.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
J Mack with a new Well, that's the news, and
thanks for stopping by the herd line there.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
It is interesting.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
Giants awful, Jets, awful, Knicks fire their coach, Mets flail
and you know, everybody beats up on Aaron Boone. But
the Yankees are the most successful team in New York
sports of the majors by far, and they're the team
that doesn't fire anybody. So they're the one team they're
never in chaos their front office, Brian Cashman, Aaron Boone,
(25:26):
they don't. They've only had three managers I think in
like thirty years.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
They don't. They kept Joe Tory forever.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
So the yank you know, Yankee haters and Yankee critics
all want everybody to fire it. Well, then you'd be
the Jets and the Giants, and the Knicks and the
Mets and the that's not the Yankees. The Yankees are patient,
like the Dodgers. They wanted to run Dave Roberts out
of town boom. He wins this year. Everybody, well, they
don't have any energy. When when you win your division
every year, it's it's a marathon. Dodgers have a chance
(25:53):
tonight to go up to nothing on the Phillies, and I, honestly,
I thought the Phillies would win the series because I
didn't trust the Dodgers bullpen. But these these baseball seasons
are long, and a big part of making it work
is your ability. Aaron Boone very pro player, Dave Roberts Dodgers,
very pro player. You can't you know, Larry Bowle was
a great player. He tried to manage, wear guys out.
(26:15):
You got to get along with people. You got to
get along with your players. When you have double think
about this, between spring training and the regular season, you
make the playoffs, you're two hundred games in that. That's
just the two hundred days you're with your players. What
about the what about the days you don't have a
game and you're with the players. You know, you're with
the players seventy five percent of the year. You got
to get.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
Along with him.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
And Aaron Boone is very players love him.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
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Speaker 3 (26:51):
So Drew Bleedzoe stopped by.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
He was a teammate one year of Mike Frable and
he was talking about Vrabel was like, just just go,
go go, and Drew said, he and Vrabel, who's now
coaching the Patriots they beat the Bills last night, connected
very quickly.
Speaker 4 (27:09):
It's not a surprise to me or to anybody that
knows Mike that he's had great success as a coach.
You know, one funny thing about Mike is he just
had so damn much energy as a player. You know,
he would you know, in the middle of practice he
would go run scout team, kickoff coverage just to burn
off some energy.
Speaker 5 (27:28):
I've I've compared him.
Speaker 4 (27:30):
To like a like a labrador, you know, like you
like you got to run him.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
And I will say this, look at the Jets and
look at New England, both the coaches. I would say
the Jets, Aaron Glenn inherited more talent than New England.
And look at what Aaron Glenn's done. And look at
what Vrabel's done. I mean, it's it's a it's a
really good team. And I think, you know, Drake May
at Carolina he's a hit. Bon Nicks is a hit.
(27:55):
Jaden Daniels is a hit. I think Caleb to some
level is gonna hit. Here's Matt how Back earlier on
the young Drake May.
Speaker 8 (28:03):
They drafted Drake May for a reason.
Speaker 10 (28:05):
They wanted their own version of Josh Allen and like
that doesn't really exist, but they saw something with the
third pick overall in that draft and they said, you
know what, we think that this guy could be that.
Speaker 5 (28:17):
You know, they tried.
Speaker 10 (28:18):
The Mac Jones thing and they were like, yeah, you're good,
but you're not Josh Allen. We're looking for Josh Allen
and we'll take the risk for the upside. And I
think Drake May has everybody in New England fired up.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
Well.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
I also think, you know, one of the real advantages
is Drake May is big with a good arm. Go
look at northern quarterbacks, quarterbacks that play in cold weather.
You know, Sam Darnold's got a big arm. He's up
in Seattle, right and if Green Bay generally Jordan Love,
Aaron Rodgers far big Arms, Mahomes Kansas City, big Arm,
(28:52):
Josh Allen, Jim Kelly Studs in Buffalo, big Arm, Eli Manning,
Big Arm in New York.
Speaker 3 (28:59):
So Drake Made's a big kid.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
I mean, Joe Flacco had success in Baltimore, Big Ben
had success in Pittsburgh. Like when you you know, when
you look around and you're drafting a guy, you have
to consider that. In the AFC, you know who's your quarterback. Again,
you want to get a guy like bow Nicks in Denver.
It gets cold, but it's usually pretty brute brilliant until Thanksgiving,
(29:21):
beautiful weather. Bow Nicks got a good arm, so, uh
you you can get away with some of that stuff.
A smaller guy like a Bryce Young didn't have a
huge arm. It's in Carolina or like in Atlanta, because
you're playing indoors in a dome in the NFC South.
But Drake may looks the part. I did ask a
couple of guests about the I just I don't even
(29:45):
know what to do with it.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
I'm watching that fumble. I watched it live. The running
back for Arizona, like the third string running back who
got a chance. De Murcata de Mercado it's a third
string running back. He gets a chance to play. Bad
team tames like Arizona don't get seventy yard rushing touchdowns.
They open up this huge hole. He burst through it.
I just don't know what you're thinking. I think it's
(30:08):
like performative. I'm gonna try to be cool. But it's
just now some argue that he had reached the goal line.
I thought it was. I thought it was go either way.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
I almost think, you know, if I was an official,
I wouldn't have a lot of sympathy for showing it.
Speaker 8 (30:23):
It doesn't matter.
Speaker 9 (30:23):
Don't leave it up to replay or certain angles or official.
Speaker 8 (30:27):
No, just score the touchdown.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
Ad Mitchell did the same thing last week. He's showing off.
It's just like bro and like this guy never scored
an I think maybe he has an nffore.
Speaker 8 (30:38):
He's like a third down back. But this was essentially
the game.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
Oh no, no, they see Arizona wins the game last week.
Ad Mitchell, who, by the way, mostly got he only
played six snaps yesterday in a blowout. So the Colts
coaches clearly and this I thought that was the game
for the Rams. I thought the Rams were in big trouble, Like, dude,
what are you doing looking back? Just get to the
end zone.
Speaker 9 (30:58):
So the other problem coling with Arizona, like they could
have been a playoff team this year.
Speaker 8 (31:02):
Okay, they now have that brutal loss to the Niners
when they should have been they should have beaten Okay,
and now you have this loss of.
Speaker 9 (31:07):
The winless Titans. You can't fall behind in that division,
Rams Niners. Wait till the Niners get healthy. They're gonna
just run away and hide. And we both agree Seattle's
a pretty damn good team. So I you don't want
to write someone off, but you couldn't put it that
play that could decide their season. Oh that's serious.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
I don't think there's any question that that could decide
their season. You can't lose.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
You can't punt a game at home. I'm not Quarterbacks
make mistakes. People fumble, like, I don't get worked up
over it.
Speaker 8 (31:35):
Now.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
If you do have a fumble issue, Kyron Williams of
the Rams, you got to clean it up. Kicky Barbara
out a fumble issue for years. He cleaned it up.
But this stuff I have no patience for. People will say,
like Jimmy Johnson would cut you for that.
Speaker 9 (31:46):
Yeah, listen the Cardinals, they ended up like there was
a flukey play with the interception that was fumbled and
recovered in the end zone, and then they had they had,
you know, three downs to get a first down and
maybe milk the clock, and Jonathan Gannon ran into the
line of scrimmage three times. They say, oh, well, punt
it to cam Ward. He's not going to do anything,
and you got beat. I'm off Arizona. I mean, we've
talked about coaches getting fired, whether it's McDaniel callahan, I
(32:10):
think Jonathan Gennon probably gets put in.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
You.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
No, it's a bummer though, because it's not a it's
not one of the better ownership situations. You're in a
tough division, you're losing games like that. I watched them
play San Francisco and I thought they gave Kyle Shanahan trouble.
I thought they I thought, I think Gannon can coach
when I watch them. You know, it's for years and
(32:33):
years people were beating up on Chris Balderd with the
Colts the gym. I take away as I'm watching the games,
they just need a quarterback.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
You get them.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
Daniel Jones and it's like, and we don't even think
Daniel Jones is great. Colts are going to win that
division going away. I have the right pieces as a
coach or a GM
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
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Speaker 1 (00:24):
Well, every year, I pick a team that I think
is going to come close to doubling their wins, and
I've been on about a four year streak, and the
Patriots were that team this year.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
For a lot of reasons.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
One, I didn't like the direction of the Dolphins or
the Jets, and I thought they could go four and
oh and I also think so much of Mike Frable,
who's just a really bright guy. Everybody I've ever known
that knows Mike just instantly connects with him. Drew Bledsone
knows him. They actually played together for a year and
Drew is joining us undisclosed location in the Northwest. I'm jealous,
(00:54):
that's all I'm gonna say. A beautiful, beautiful place. So
you were only a team eight for a year, but
everybody I know that's played with him or been in
a staff. He just is you know, Drew. Some guys
just have a connect ability. And so tell me about
your relationship with Rabel in the year you played with him.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
You know, it's funny because I only played with Mike
for one year, but it seems like we were teammates
for like five or six years. You know, we just
had a great connection personally. You know, it's not a
surprise to me or to anybody that knows Mike that
he's had great success as a coach. You know, one
funny thing about Mike is he just had so damn
much energy as a player. You know, he would you know,
(01:34):
in the middle of practice, he would go run scout team,
kickoff coverage just to burn off some energy. I've compared
him to like a like a labrador, you know, like
like you got to run him, you know, like like
you had to run him. And honestly, that's how Rabes
ended up catching all those touchdowns that he caught. I
get credit for those, call him because before games, he
(01:57):
had to burn off energy before NFL games, So I
would go out and throw the ball to him in
pregame and that's when you know, Charlie Wise and Belichick
saw him running around and decided to put him in
on offense.
Speaker 5 (02:08):
So he owes me for all of those touchdown cans.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
He certainly does. I will say Drake May, I liked
him at Carolina. I just thought he was kind of rough.
But you know, Vrabel kept saying he just needs to
understand you got to be a leader. On Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday,
I was almost like saying.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
I love you.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
This is your team now. But I do think Drew
you know this. When you go to an NFL team,
you're you're the youngest guy on the team for the
first two or three years, and yet your coach is like,
all right, be a leader. You're talking to thirty seven
year old left tackles. Give me a little your experience
in Drake May, when you are a young guy looking
(02:46):
older players in the face and like I need you
to do this, this, and this.
Speaker 5 (02:51):
God, it was intimidating. Man. I mean I was twenty one.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
I just turned twenty one stepping into the huddle with
grown ass men like these people have families and investment portfolios,
you know, and I'm just fresh out of college and
that's where that's where Drake is. But you know, but
being a leader doesn't mean you have to be vocal
right away. You know you can initially, you just get
the job done. You show up early, you stay late,
you work hard, you try to win the wind sprints,
(03:15):
you try to do all the little things that you
can do physically, and then you earn the right to
be heard vocally. Uh and uh, you know, but watching
watching watching Drake and his progression, you know, uh, it's
I think the comparisons and I you know, look, we're
not going to put the guy in the Hall of
Fame quite yet, but the comparisons to Josh Allen are
I think are very real. You know, you remember Josh's
(03:36):
you know, first year Uh, you know, a lot of interceptions,
pretty rough around the edges, accuracy maybe wasn't great, and
then you watched his progression and now he's you know,
certainly in the conversation for best in the game.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
And I think the comparisons between Drake may And and
Josh Allen are real.
Speaker 5 (03:52):
I really do. And and that's high.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
Praise for Drake as just a second year player, but
I think that's very real.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
So you know, this happens in the NFL from time
to time. I've always we all know coaches matter and
quarterbacks are the key, but coordinators matter. And right now,
Philly's got talent, but they have no identity. They don't
know what the hell they are. And it's almost like,
you know, they've had so much success, it's like, guys,
you're kind of a blue collar, punch in the mouth offense.
That's kind of what you are. Don't be bashful again
(04:20):
when you watch Philly and you're like, how does Saquan
have six carries? Is it hard? Sometimes, Drew when you
could be winning or losing, and you kind of lose
who you are as an offense. Have you ever been
in a spot like that? You're like, I know I
got the players, but we forgot what we are.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
Yeah, you know, I think Philly. You're exactly right. They
are a punchy in the mouth. Run the football, play defense,
play action, you know, big play. You know a team
and that's you know, that's that's who they are.
Speaker 5 (04:50):
You know.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
But in order to you know, in order to play
that way though, you have to be remarkably consistent, you know,
you you know, you have to. You have to convert
third down so you can keep running the football. You know,
you've got get the defensive stops. You've got to be
you know, you've got to be on schedule, you know,
and we you know, meaning you know, get four yards
on first down, get three or four yards on second down,
so your third down, so you can run the ball,
(05:11):
and you know, you can execute the touch push and
do all of those things. And so you just have
to be remarkably consistent with all of your execution in
order to play that way. And I just think they're
seeing a little bit of inconsistency out of the out
of the Eagles offense right now.
Speaker 5 (05:24):
Now you know, they're four and.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
One, I don't know, and they played you know, the
Broncos are a good football team and you know, so
there's no reason to panic, uh, you know, with what's
going on with the Eagles. But but their identity is
their identity, you know, and it's it's fitting for Philly
because that's what Philly is is a city, you know,
it's a blue collar city.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (05:42):
And that's the way the Eagles.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
But they have to be remarkably consistent offensively to play
the style that they're playing.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
So you are the rare, like Peyton Manning, you're a
five star high school kid. You're a great college guy.
You're a top draft pick. So you didn't, like Baker
Mayfield had to walk on and a lot lot of
these guys transfer.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
You didn't have that nasty chip on the shoulder.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
You may have had it from how you were treated
by somebody else, but you came in like you're the
guy you're gonna get paid.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
That's not your life.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
And I said, I think chip on the shoulder is
important as long as it doesn't consume you and define you.
I thought it kind of defined Baker for about three years.
It's like, dude, you don't have to go to the
press conference every week and pick a fight like you
Sometimes it's okay to be like, hey, I'm telling a guy.
Baker and Sam yesterday, I had a lot of critics
(06:35):
to watch them yesterday. I'm like, I almost wonder if
all the crap they went through is actually why they're
so good.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
Do you buy that?
Speaker 4 (06:44):
I think there's something to that, Colin. You know, you
look at Baker and I was curious to see how
he handled that, you know, because he was that underdog guy,
the walk on that had to transfer and had to
move schools and then all.
Speaker 5 (06:54):
Of a sudden, you know, top draft pick.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
And you know, it's hard to have a chip on
your shoulder when you're the number one over draft pick
that doesn't really fly. People aren't aren't looking down on
you anymore. And I think that's an adjustment. But I
think that's kind of just how he's wired. And it's
kind of the way he plays. You know, he plays
a little bit like Farv you know, where he just
you know, he kind of needs to get hit, he
needs to run around. He needs to be a football player,
(07:16):
you know, rather than just a you know, a game
manager type of quarterback.
Speaker 5 (07:20):
And uh, that's when he's at his best, I think.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
And and so you know, sometimes you have to manufacture.
Speaker 5 (07:26):
That chip on your shoulder.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
Uh and uh you know, so maybe that's why Baker
was so at times so contentious with the media, because
he was just trying to create this uh chip on
his shoulder when it when it wasn't actually real.
Speaker 5 (07:38):
But but the guy's got real arm talent.
Speaker 4 (07:40):
You know, like you look at it like he's a
smaller guy, but you look at the throws he makes.
Speaker 5 (07:44):
Uh, you know, this guy he can spin it. You know,
this is not this is.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
Not a guy that's getting by on you know, average ability.
Speaker 5 (07:51):
He can really throw the ball.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
Uh you know, so uh you know, for him to
be looked at as this uh this underdog anymore, I
don't think is accurate. I think I do think he's
one of the elite guys in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
Yeah, sort of.
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Speaker 1 (08:33):
So I want to kind of end it on this
is that Belichick is not working in college and I
love college football.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
I love it.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
And my theory theory is always once you buy into
your own supply, you're done. It doesn't matter how smart
you are or once you get rigid. The late Bobby
Knight's like, I'm not gonna do one and done's well, bro,
everybody else is doing them.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
You know, you got it. You gotta put your arm
around it.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
And Belichick, you know, he said later in his career,
it's like, there's certain guys that don't want to coach.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
Well, you gotta you need talent.
Speaker 8 (09:03):
He can't.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
You're buying into your own hype. Vrabel is about the
players Bill became about Bill. I watch him in college
and my takeaway is Bill just wants to coach who
he wants to coach. And I didn't think he would
dominate college football. But are you surprised just how bad
it's been. You you, you know, you obviously know him.
(09:25):
It's it's just, I mean, college football is kind of
a young guy's game. He may just not be he
may not work at this level.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
Drew, Yeah, you know, I think it's it's tough, Colin.
And Bill is obviously brilliant, there's no getting around that.
But he also put together teams in New England that
were brilliant. You know, you look at the guys on
the defenses that he coached and the you know, you
got you know, really brilliant guys.
Speaker 5 (09:51):
Rabel was one of those guys.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
You know, Teddy Bruski, you know ty law Lawyer, Molloy,
Rodney Harrison. You know, you look at all of these
guys that he was coaching. You know, he had brilliant
guys with him, and that was that really worked well
for him because Bill's a brilliant guy. But you have
to have brilliant players in order to, you know, to
to really showcase that. And I also just think, man,
you know, you just look at the optics. And I'm
(10:14):
not piling on Bill here, but you know, you're you're
gonna go sit in the living room with a seventeen
year old, you know. Do you want to go play
for Bill Belichick as a seventeen year old, you know?
Or do you want to go, you know, play for
the Oregon Ducks or do you want to go and
trust me, I hate the Ducks, but but but I
would love to play for Dan Lanning, you know. And
you just look at that, uh what what he's dealing with.
(10:36):
I don't think it's tough for him. Settled down, but sorry,
my dog's going to attack. My dog's going to attack.
But I think, uh, you know, I think with Uh,
it's just it's an up it's an uphill battle for
him because he's got to surround him you himself with
you know, really brilliant players in order to execute the
stuff that he wants to do.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
By the way, what would your dog possibly be barking at?
What's your dog's name?
Speaker 5 (11:00):
That's Tyson. He's a trained killer.
Speaker 4 (11:02):
He's uh, yeah, he's he's going to go chase the
bears off of our property up here and just keep
us safe.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
Okay, I'm gonna say, I know where you're at. There's
not a lot to bark at where you're at right now.
It's beautiful.
Speaker 5 (11:14):
Yeah, no, it's good. But he keeps us safe. Man.
We sleep, we sleep tight at night and know we
have this little attack on.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
I'm going to end with this. Dak Prescott.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
I never thought he was a great arm talent, but
he did something very early in his career and I
got so much crud for this. He was walking up
and down the sideline and he walked by a garbage cannon.
There was a piece of cup on the ground, and
he stopped and he went back and he grabbed it
and he put it in the garbage and I thought, Okay,
that's just a he's conscientious. And I've always thought Jerry
(11:46):
Jones a bit of a circus. It's high profile Jerry.
He never says the wrong thing. And I've been on
this for years and people crushed me for this, but
my whole take is quarterback's different. Barely need you to
be thirty nine years old at twenty two, And I
look at Dak right now, and Dallas is a circus
(12:08):
about every other week. I don't know, is the MVP
Like I'm always blown away by his maybe EQ or maturity.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
How do you view Dak?
Speaker 4 (12:20):
You know, Colin, there was one thing that was really
really telling, and it's something that you can look at
with players. You look at how their teammates react to them, right,
and it was really telling.
Speaker 5 (12:32):
You remember when Dak got hurt a few years back.
Speaker 4 (12:35):
His teammates were in tears when when when Dak went down,
and so you know that really tells you everything you
need to know about who the guy is and who
he represents to his team and to his teammates. You
know they were they were literally you know, guys were
crying when Dak got hurt, and you know that he
just he's a great leader for that team. He's a
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great stabilizer for that team. He was a growth coming in.
You know, when you say you want a thirty nine
year old when you're twenty one or twenty two years old,
that's who he was coming into the league. He just
he showed maturity beyond his years and to be able
to be that person in underneath that circus tent that
the Cowboys tend to be, where all the eyes are
on you, whether people love you or hate you, they care.
Speaker 5 (13:18):
You know, it's like pitching for the Yankees.
Speaker 4 (13:19):
People either either love you or hate you and Dack
and Dak has been able to take all of that
and be a true stabilizing force for that team. And
to see what he did yesterday, you know, one of
the most important things that I always look at with
teams is how healthy is their offensive line. With three
offensive line, three starting offensive linemen down yesterday, I really
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felt like they were going to struggle, and Dak came
out and just lit him up, just absolutely lit him up.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
Yeah, so did I. I thought that Jets would be competitive.
I just blown away by what I'm seeing. I love
these stories of these quarterbacks. They get ten thousand hours.
It's Baker, it's darnold hell even Carson Wentz yesterday. These
guys get banged around and criticized and demoted.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
And Dak has gone through a lot in Dallas.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
He's an easy guy to root for, Drew Bledso Double
Back Winery, how is your year?
Speaker 5 (14:07):
We're almost done with harvest.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
It looks like another great harvest up in Walla, Wallat
So we've got an amazing team. You know, when you
talk about teams and cultures and all of that, we've
got a championship level team at the winery.
Speaker 5 (14:17):
These are our team there.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
But right now they're at the end of harvest, so
they're all really tired and really grumpy. So I tried
to take care of them, muff them up a little
bit because they're working, you know, eighteen hour twenty hour
days right now, so you know, it's it's it's a
little prickly, but man, they just continue to make amazing
wine for us and we're having a lot of fun
with it.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
Double Back. Look it up the Double Back Winery in Walla, Walla, Washington.
I don't think as many hosts I.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
Know where that's at exactly exactly. I can find not
many people.
Speaker 5 (14:48):
Not many people do. It's the end of the road.
Speaker 4 (14:50):
But it's a beautiful little town and we grow great
wine grapes up there.
Speaker 5 (14:54):
It's and it's my hometown. You know, I grew up there.
Speaker 4 (14:56):
So it's fun to be back there running a running
a cool business back in my hometown. And at the
end of the day we get to get to drink
some great wine and pretend like that's our job, which
is which is really fun.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
You don't age, my man, You look great. Thanks for
coming on.
Speaker 4 (15:09):
Likewise, Colin, always good to catch up anybody.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
The great Drew Blood so four time pro bowler, number
one pick. I can't tell you where he's at, but
I Google mapped it. He's got, you know what, he
has good taste and where to hang out, very good taste.
So he must be in Chicago. Then, well that's a
beautiful city. His is a little more Northwest Lake centric.
(15:35):
He's he picks good spots. Jmack with a news no, no.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
Turn on the news.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
This is the headline.
Speaker 9 (15:43):
News, all right, Colin, Let's get started with that. Patriots
upset last night. They were big underdogs and the reason
they were able to pull it off was Stefon Diggs
went nuclear. Yeah, ten catches for a buck forty six.
After the game, he talked about the revenge angle.
Speaker 8 (15:59):
Colin, was this one personal for you?
Speaker 3 (16:03):
One hundred percent?
Speaker 7 (16:03):
Obviously.
Speaker 9 (16:04):
I love those guys, Still got a good relationship with
those guys.
Speaker 8 (16:07):
Got a lot of respect for him.
Speaker 10 (16:08):
But I love it game of football more and every
time I go, oh, I'm trying to prove it, not
only to them.
Speaker 8 (16:12):
But to myself.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
Well, they needed they needed that from him, Like, that's
one of those games we said coming into the season,
they were perimeter light good in the trench's perimeter light.
Those Hunter, Henry Stefan, Diggs, a couple running backs that
are decent.
Speaker 8 (16:26):
So you know, hardcore listeners of this show.
Speaker 9 (16:28):
No, we've talked around it, but there was an incident
between Alan and Diggs that went down and the New
England Patriots social media account they posted a picture of
Diggs side eyeing Josh.
Speaker 5 (16:40):
Did you see that?
Speaker 9 (16:41):
After the game? I'm like, why are you guys feeding
into this? Alan hasn't talked about it, Diggs hasn't. We know,
Diggs hasn't been the greatest teammate at other stops.
Speaker 8 (16:50):
I'll leave it at that.
Speaker 9 (16:51):
Impressive win for the Patriots, no doubt, still think the
Bills are.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
The better team, right, No, I mean, listen, do you
have bad Sundays like it's just Buffalo got into a
ball security issue, and I mean we saw it a
couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 5 (17:05):
You know, the.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
Colts had the Rams beat in LA and Ady Mitchell
fumbles it out right like this, every snap matters and
these fumbles.
Speaker 9 (17:14):
The penalties also were not great. Buffalo didn't seem exactly
buttoned up last night.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
You know you think you don't think it's an upset.
They were an eight and a half point favorite.
Speaker 8 (17:23):
Significant.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
That's about what the Giants will be as an underdog
to Philly.
Speaker 9 (17:27):
Let me ask you, so that division is Bills and
then Patriots or do you think the Patriots can challenge him?
Speaker 3 (17:31):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (17:32):
I think the Patriots are I think the Patriots that skin.
I think the Patriots have the better defense.
Speaker 9 (17:39):
And if you maybe combined the Jets and Dolphins, they
might have like a five hundred team, like you took
the best players from each of those or are they
still like a sub I.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Think the Jets are in the running for a number
one pick. I don't know what you do with Aaron Glenn.
Speaker 9 (17:51):
But handicapping the quarterbacks every week. Dante Moore, Carson Beck
looks really good.
Speaker 8 (17:57):
Miami's awesome. What's the problem with that.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
He's a little fin for me. But he has had
our in college. He got you know, he transferred out
of Georgia. He's been doubted. He's had to rebuild his
you know, his kind of.
Speaker 8 (18:08):
They got weight training programs in the NFL.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
Well, I know, I know, he's a little spin he's
he's I know, you know, creat team's good when you
get old, are you taking it out? No, it's great
for your cognitive ability and good symbiotic or you take
it as well. Of course, great for you and you know. Anyways,
let's move on to Oh.
Speaker 9 (18:25):
Gosh, I guess we're still talking about arch Mann income.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
This is rough, was it?
Speaker 9 (18:30):
I know there was major hype coming into the season,
but Bro, look at these throws.
Speaker 8 (18:34):
That's not even.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
Close and he holds the ball his lack.
Speaker 9 (18:37):
I mean, that's just such a bad miss.
Speaker 8 (18:39):
And I know people want to fend.
Speaker 9 (18:40):
Hey, hey, I'm off the arch Banning train.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
He was terrible.
Speaker 9 (18:45):
Two picks, took six sacks.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
Now they're old lines, not great. They're all lines not great,
but sometimes you have to trust your eyes. His ball
sometimes doesn't have the velocity. He has bad misses. The
old lines not great. He's barely sixty and he's holding
the ball too long. So is he's seeing the field.
I'm not sure he sees the field terrible enough. Well,
(19:07):
there is something to be said. Bo Nick's a great example.
Bow last year held the ball a lot a little
about a second too long, bo Nicks. I was telling
the staff this morning. He plays so fast now, and
a lot of it is it takes you a while
to see the field. Arch Manning sat at Texas for
two years, didn't play. So you watch him and you're like,
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he just doesn't. I mean, you're waiting for it to pop,
but he holds the ball, he doesn't see it and
let it rip quick. Mahomes is legendary, see it, let
it rip go accurate like Mahomes is like Marino.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
It doesn't most guys can't do that.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
But I watched bow NICKX yesterday and I'm like, oh
my god, bo Nicks has sped his process up in
the last year. Arch just feels slow and kind of ponderous.
Speaker 8 (19:53):
Back then, yeah, it doesn't. And again I'm not going
to hammer the guy.
Speaker 9 (19:56):
It doesn't seem like he processes quickly enough, so you
need to be decid off his quarterback. I'm going look
at this, read this, read bing bang boo quickly and
he's it doesn't feel like it's clicking. And now I
will say Arch talk to the media afterward, and it's
worth listening to.
Speaker 8 (20:11):
As much as lost his sting stinger heart, this one's
going to hurt. It's always something to learn from.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
You win some and then you learn some. So you
got to learn from this and get better.
Speaker 9 (20:22):
I know you're all over the Texas message boards. There
is some chatter do we sit him down soft benching
if you will. Sark by the way, Sark is coming
out defending him hard. He's like, hey, who's going to
Ohio State and the swamp and winning? And it's like, well,
let's start.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
You open the season number one in the country.
Speaker 8 (20:40):
You're now out of the.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
Top twenty five.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
Well and again they started with four new offensive linemen,
but Oregon had to replace all eleven starters on offense,
and their offense looks unbelievable.
Speaker 8 (20:50):
I will say we saw this with Beck.
Speaker 9 (20:52):
He lost Bowers and lad McConkey and regressed, this guy's
missing golden and bonding.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
So Lancer Line is a guy that I've on the
show a lot, a lot of respect for Lance. He
works for like NFL dot Com, he's he watches. He
is a scout. I mean Lance, he does radio, but
he's also a scout. And he said Arch just doesn't
see the field. So when I watched the Florida game,
I sat there for about two and a half hours
watching a series of you know, UCLA Penn State at Washington, Maryland.
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And that's my take is that it takes rookies in
the NFL. A lot of them don't see the field quickly.
Mahomes was rare. But when I watch Arch, he's not
seeing the play. He's holding the ball too long. And
then when you watch the the video behind him, it's like, no, bro,
that's open you have. I would say Arch is not
yet an anticipatory thrower. He has to see something absolutely open. Well,
(21:42):
that's not the NFL. And to be honest, when you
play Ohio State, you have to be an anticipatory thrower.
Because Ohio State's got first round draft picks on that defense.
Speaker 8 (21:54):
We're not saying he's cooked. He can still turn it
around anybody.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
Yeah, but he's just not. You can see it. It's
not it's not, it's just plotting.
Speaker 8 (22:02):
He's not there yet.
Speaker 9 (22:02):
Final story, Colin is the Major League Baseball Playoffs. The
AO Playoffs have been electric, except if you're a Yankees fan.
The Blue Jays have scored twenty three runs in two games, brutal.
The scene in Seattle last night was really good. Mariners
won their first playoff home game since two thousand and one.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
Crowd was nuts.
Speaker 8 (22:23):
Yeah, crowd was going bonkers.
Speaker 9 (22:24):
Today we get the Dodgers versus the Phillies on TBS,
Cubs Brewers on TBS, and then tomorrow on Fox. These
are the big ones Mariners, Tigers, and Blue Jays. Yankees,
Yankees are desperate, must win.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Look at those old throwback Mariner uniforms.
Speaker 8 (22:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
I don't go to eBay nostalgic about the Baron.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
Well, it was my favorite team growing up. I can
literally know I go. I went to the opener at
the Kingdome against the Angels in nineteen seventy seven.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
I can give you the starting lineup now.
Speaker 8 (22:54):
I think we're good on that.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
No, I got it, Bob.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
Stintson, then Danny Meyer, Jose Biaz, Craig Reynolds, Bill Stein,
Diego Sagie pitched, Rupert two P.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
Jones and center.
Speaker 8 (23:02):
Oh right, the producers A Jona Roberts.
Speaker 9 (23:04):
Get him out of this stop now, please joke keep going,
go on, come on.
Speaker 8 (23:10):
Who's the dh did.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
They Yeah, Lee Stanton, Oh wonderful. And they pitched.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
They faced Frank Tanana, Bobby Gritch, Joe Rudy or the Angels. Yeah,
Joe Rudy Homer to left field. I was in right field,
way up top of the stadium, the back then now
you're in the regul When I see those old Mariner uniforms,
that was my first team. I listened. They were on
kV I in Seattle. I listened every day. I want
to be a baseball announcer. So I read that our
team was terrible. We had a terrible staff. We had
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a guy named Enrique Romo who went to the Pirates.
He was our number one, he was our number two starter.
He was Okay, anyway, I know I'm boring all of you,
but you know when you're it was nineteen seventy seven,
so I'm like a thirteen year old kid and I
lived for the Mariners.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
I mean I listened every night.
Speaker 9 (23:53):
Games on FS one Tomorrow, Blue Jays, Yankees.
Speaker 8 (23:55):
That's way more important than your marriage.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
Well right, I'm gonna tell you they're gonna blame Aaron Boone,
but you got to get people.
Speaker 9 (24:02):
You see the meme about Aaron Boone, like if he
didn't hit a home run against the Red Sox, he'd
be coaching the Savannah Bananas. That it's kind of funny.
I lacked on my line.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
Well, the Boone family, Bob Brett and that was the
highlight of his career. I mean as a player, I
just don't I think the Yankees are. They don't sacrifice,
they don't do small ball, bullpen, shaky, home run reliant.
I mean, they've spent a lot of money on this team,
and they they are completely reliant on John Carlos Stanton.
First of all, Garrett Cole got hurt before the season,
(24:31):
So you're not winning a World Series. I mean, if
you go to the games against the Dodgers in the
series last year when Cole didn't pitch, they looked totally out.
Speaker 8 (24:37):
He can win three straight. It's the Blue Jays, Okay.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
No, the Yankees. Let's be fair. I don't have it
in front of me. The Yankees have dominated the American
League Central. Take away the American League Central in the
last ten years. In the playoffs, didn't.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
Dominate, i'd be blue. Jays are pretty good.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
J Mack with a new Well, that's the news, and
thanks for stopping by the herd line there.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
It is interesting.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
Giants awful, Jets, awful, Knicks fire their coach, Mets flail
and you know, everybody beats up on Aaron Boone. But
the Yankees are the most successful team in New York
sports of the majors by far, and they're the team
that doesn't fire anybody. So they're the one team they're
never in chaos their front office, Brian Cashman, Aaron Boone,
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they don't. They've only had three managers I think in
like thirty years.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
They don't. They kept Joe Tory forever.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
So the yank you know, Yankee haters and Yankee critics
all want everybody to fire it. Well, then you'd be
the Jets and the Giants, and the Knicks and the
Mets and the that's not the Yankees. The Yankees are patient,
like the Dodgers. They wanted to run Dave Roberts out
of town boom. He wins this year. Everybody, well, they
don't have any energy. When when you win your division
every year, it's it's a marathon. Dodgers have a chance
(25:53):
tonight to go up to nothing on the Phillies, and I, honestly,
I thought the Phillies would win the series because I
didn't trust the Dodgers bullpen. But these these baseball seasons
are long, and a big part of making it work
is your ability. Aaron Boone very pro player, Dave Roberts Dodgers,
very pro player. You can't you know, Larry Bowle was
a great player. He tried to manage, wear guys out.
(26:15):
You got to get along with people. You got to
get along with your players. When you have double think
about this, between spring training and the regular season, you
make the playoffs, you're two hundred games in that. That's
just the two hundred days you're with your players. What
about the what about the days you don't have a
game and you're with the players. You know, you're with
the players seventy five percent of the year. You got
to get.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
Along with him.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
And Aaron Boone is very players love him.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
It's the Herd.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays
and newon Easter not a em Pacific on Fox Sports
Radio FS one and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
So Drew Bleedzoe stopped by.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
He was a teammate one year of Mike Frable and
he was talking about Vrabel was like, just just go,
go go, and Drew said, he and Vrabel, who's now
coaching the Patriots they beat the Bills last night, connected
very quickly.
Speaker 4 (27:09):
It's not a surprise to me or to anybody that
knows Mike that he's had great success as a coach.
You know, one funny thing about Mike is he just
had so damn much energy as a player. You know,
he would you know, in the middle of practice he
would go run scout team, kickoff coverage just to burn
off some energy.
Speaker 5 (27:28):
I've I've compared him.
Speaker 4 (27:30):
To like a like a labrador, you know, like you
like you got to run him.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
And I will say this, look at the Jets and
look at New England, both the coaches. I would say
the Jets, Aaron Glenn inherited more talent than New England.
And look at what Aaron Glenn's done. And look at
what Vrabel's done. I mean, it's it's a it's a
really good team. And I think, you know, Drake May
at Carolina he's a hit. Bon Nicks is a hit.
(27:55):
Jaden Daniels is a hit. I think Caleb to some
level is gonna hit. Here's Matt how Back earlier on
the young Drake May.
Speaker 8 (28:03):
They drafted Drake May for a reason.
Speaker 10 (28:05):
They wanted their own version of Josh Allen and like
that doesn't really exist, but they saw something with the
third pick overall in that draft and they said, you
know what, we think that this guy could be that.
Speaker 5 (28:17):
You know, they tried.
Speaker 10 (28:18):
The Mac Jones thing and they were like, yeah, you're good,
but you're not Josh Allen. We're looking for Josh Allen
and we'll take the risk for the upside. And I
think Drake May has everybody in New England fired up.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
Well.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
I also think, you know, one of the real advantages
is Drake May is big with a good arm. Go
look at northern quarterbacks, quarterbacks that play in cold weather.
You know, Sam Darnold's got a big arm. He's up
in Seattle, right and if Green Bay generally Jordan Love,
Aaron Rodgers far big Arms, Mahomes Kansas City, big Arm,
(28:52):
Josh Allen, Jim Kelly Studs in Buffalo, big Arm, Eli Manning,
Big Arm in New York.
Speaker 3 (28:59):
So Drake Made's a big kid.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
I mean, Joe Flacco had success in Baltimore, Big Ben
had success in Pittsburgh. Like when you you know, when
you look around and you're drafting a guy, you have
to consider that. In the AFC, you know who's your quarterback. Again,
you want to get a guy like bow Nicks in Denver.
It gets cold, but it's usually pretty brute brilliant until Thanksgiving,
(29:21):
beautiful weather. Bow Nicks got a good arm, so, uh
you you can get away with some of that stuff.
A smaller guy like a Bryce Young didn't have a
huge arm. It's in Carolina or like in Atlanta, because
you're playing indoors in a dome in the NFC South.
But Drake may looks the part. I did ask a
couple of guests about the I just I don't even
(29:45):
know what to do with it.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
I'm watching that fumble. I watched it live. The running
back for Arizona, like the third string running back who
got a chance. De Murcata de Mercado it's a third
string running back. He gets a chance to play. Bad
team tames like Arizona don't get seventy yard rushing touchdowns.
They open up this huge hole. He burst through it.
I just don't know what you're thinking. I think it's
(30:08):
like performative. I'm gonna try to be cool. But it's
just now some argue that he had reached the goal line.
I thought it was. I thought it was go either way.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
I almost think, you know, if I was an official,
I wouldn't have a lot of sympathy for showing it.
Speaker 8 (30:23):
It doesn't matter.
Speaker 9 (30:23):
Don't leave it up to replay or certain angles or official.
Speaker 8 (30:27):
No, just score the touchdown.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
Ad Mitchell did the same thing last week. He's showing off.
It's just like bro and like this guy never scored
an I think maybe he has an nffore.
Speaker 8 (30:38):
He's like a third down back. But this was essentially
the game.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
Oh no, no, they see Arizona wins the game last week.
Ad Mitchell, who, by the way, mostly got he only
played six snaps yesterday in a blowout. So the Colts
coaches clearly and this I thought that was the game
for the Rams. I thought the Rams were in big trouble, Like, dude,
what are you doing looking back? Just get to the
end zone.
Speaker 9 (30:58):
So the other problem coling with Arizona, like they could
have been a playoff team this year.
Speaker 8 (31:02):
Okay, they now have that brutal loss to the Niners
when they should have been they should have beaten Okay,
and now you have this loss of.
Speaker 9 (31:07):
The winless Titans. You can't fall behind in that division,
Rams Niners. Wait till the Niners get healthy. They're gonna
just run away and hide. And we both agree Seattle's
a pretty damn good team. So I you don't want
to write someone off, but you couldn't put it that
play that could decide their season. Oh that's serious.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
I don't think there's any question that that could decide
their season. You can't lose.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
You can't punt a game at home. I'm not Quarterbacks
make mistakes. People fumble, like, I don't get worked up
over it.
Speaker 8 (31:35):
Now.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
If you do have a fumble issue, Kyron Williams of
the Rams, you got to clean it up. Kicky Barbara
out a fumble issue for years. He cleaned it up.
But this stuff I have no patience for. People will say,
like Jimmy Johnson would cut you for that.
Speaker 9 (31:46):
Yeah, listen the Cardinals, they ended up like there was
a flukey play with the interception that was fumbled and
recovered in the end zone, and then they had they had,
you know, three downs to get a first down and
maybe milk the clock, and Jonathan Gannon ran into the
line of scrimmage three times. They say, oh, well, punt
it to cam Ward. He's not going to do anything,
and you got beat. I'm off Arizona. I mean, we've
talked about coaches getting fired, whether it's McDaniel callahan, I
(32:10):
think Jonathan Gennon probably gets put in.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
You.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
No, it's a bummer though, because it's not a it's
not one of the better ownership situations. You're in a
tough division, you're losing games like that. I watched them
play San Francisco and I thought they gave Kyle Shanahan trouble.
I thought they I thought, I think Gannon can coach
when I watch them. You know, it's for years and
(32:33):
years people were beating up on Chris Balderd with the
Colts the gym. I take away as I'm watching the games,
they just need a quarterback.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
You get them.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
Daniel Jones and it's like, and we don't even think
Daniel Jones is great. Colts are going to win that
division going away. I have the right pieces as a
coach or a GM
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