December 16, 2025 • 29 mins
Former New England Patriots QB Drew Bledsoe stops by The Herd to talk about Drake Maye and the Patriots this season, Mike Vrabel's coaching style, Caleb Williams' accuracy, George Pickens being unhappy in Dallas and more!
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Speaker 1 (00:28):
So many interesting things happening to college football playoffs starts
on Friday. Is the Big Ten now at the top,
at least just superior to the SEC. There's an argument
to be made four Pro Bowls fourteen years in the NFL.
Drew Bledsoe is now joining us. Wine joining us live
from Bend, Oregon. One of the absolute gems in North America.
(00:52):
I've sent so many people in my life. Now they're
not getting snow yet this year. If you want to
go and recreate and drink wine, you go to bed
and I'll circle back to that in a second. The
Bloodsoe family Winery is amazing. You know it's interesting. Philip
Rivers forty four chopped it up. Kirk Cousins on Thursday
chopped it up. Tommy at forty four. Stafford had a
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bad back all camp there is something you told me
this years ago. You were actually in a wine store
in Connecticut, Maximum Beverage, and you told me this. You said, Colin,
I can still go in the parking lot and throw
a steam route. My legs are done. I watched Philip Rivers.
I was like, that's what Drew told me. You can
always throw it right.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Yeah, man, that doesn't really go away. I actually got
the non blood nephew. This practice squad tight end for
the Dolphins and those I got out and loose it up.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
Let me let me showre how we used to do it.
Speaker 5 (01:43):
Man.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Let me, you know, say, yeah, you can always throw it.
That doesn't really go away. It's being able to take
the hits and do the rest of it. But yeah,
that was kind of cool for us old guys to
see Philip Rivers come off, come off the couch and
have some success.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
Yeah. It was fun.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
So you know, it's interesting when I look at the Patriots.
You were with Mike Rabel one year, and I still
contend they're in a rebuild and I want you to
go back to your second year as a quarterback.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
So you're like a sponge.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
You're trying to take all this stuff in Rabel's a
tough coach. The roster's good. It's not as good as Seattle,
It's not as good as a Ram, It's not as
good as the Lions or Eagles. Go back to year two.
Are you kind of amazed by Drake May or a
bow Nix or a Caleb or do you think, hey,
the world's changed. These guys get more snaps in high
school now.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
Here two is a big year, colin, you know, because
that first year man, everything is so fast, you know,
I think Phil Simms famously described it as sticking your
head of the popcorn machine. You know, it's just like
everything is so fast. Year two it slows down really dramatically.
And then if you have you know what, you know
what Drake May has, you have a great play caller,
you've got a roster that's being built around you, and
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you have great support, you know, then you have a
chance to really go and have some success pretty quickly.
But year two generally is a time when you can
make a big jump because everything really starts to slow down.
And and you know, Drake did some great things his
rookie year. There were flashes of what he could potentially be, uh,
but they didn't have much support around him, and you know,
there was a problem last year.
Speaker 4 (03:19):
Now he's got you know, he's got the We like
to call him.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
The other Josh McDaniels, because our Josh McDaniels is our winemaker.
But the but the other Josh McDaniels, the other play caller.
He's he's great for quarterbacks. And Rabel's just awesome, man.
He you know, he was a guy when we were playing.
He had just so much energy Colin and you know,
he would he and brucek He actually was the same
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way during practice. They would go run scout team kickoff
just to burn off extra energy.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
You know.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
He's like almost like a labrador, right, Like she just
has so much energy and that really translates to the players.
And he is a tough coach, but he's tough in
a good way.
Speaker 4 (03:57):
Man. They're having fun, you know they I was.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
Out there, we were out there when they played the
Browns and he comes into the locker room and it
looks like he just came off the field. He's so
fired up, and he's really got the guys buying end
to what he's preaching. And man, they're just they're playing
good football because I was with you, man, I thought
they were rebuilding, but that rebuild seems to have been
fast forwarded by probably two years in my estimation, with
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what they're putting on the field this year.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Caleb Williams is completing fifty eight percent of his throws.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
I think I would be bothered more if he didn't
have all the horsepower and torque behind him. Josh Allen
now has increased his completion percentage, but he doesn't tow
the ball downfield anymore. He just throws the tight ends
because they haven't drafted receiver. Well, I'm not losing a
ton of sleep over it, but to sum, it's alarmingly low.
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Where do you stand on completion percentage? When you have
you had it by the way, you had the best
arm in the league, When you've got more torque than
ninety eight percent of the planet.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
There's a there's a problem sometimes And I and you
know you said it, I fell into this. When you've
got a big arm, you always feel like you can
make the big throw downfield.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
And you know, I think over time.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
What I learned and what you've seen with Josh and
when Caleb will get here is like okay, you know,
it's it's it's great to it's great to have that
and have that ability when you really need to call
on it. But it's okay to take the five yard
It's okay to throw the check down a little more often.
You know, you just relieve a lot of stress on
yourself if you're in you know, second, sixth or third
and three then than you are if you're in third
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and ten a lot. So, you know, it's something I
think you'll see a progression with Caleb because he's got
huge arm talent. But there's a switch that has to happen.
You're like, okay, let's take the easy ones. You know,
let's go ahead and take these easy ones and then
you know, when we have to, we can make the
big throw downfield. It's one of the things that's you know,
allowed Pat Mahomes to be, you know, so amazingly effective,
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especially in the last few years. And I know the
Chiefs are the Chiefs this year, but in the last
few years, you know, you see him he takes the
easy ones in the first three quarters and then when
you need him to put on his cape at the
end of the game, then Mahomes will put on his
cape at the end of the game and go make
these amazing plays.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
But when you watch you.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
Know padd over the last three, four or five years,
you know he would take the easy ones a lot
and then and then when he needed to call on
that amazing ability, he would do that.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
So I think that's where Caleb is.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
Doesn't concern me, but there, you know, if you watch,
if he's if he's getting the right support, you will
see a progression over his career where he's going to
be okay taking the easy ones, you know a little
more often, the completion percentage will go up, and then
when he needs to be superman, he can do that.
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Speaker 1 (07:18):
So I've always kind of felt that in the NBA,
because the locker room is so small, like nine guys
play sometimes eight, that one bad attitude can ruin a
locker room. In baseball, you know, if you're a relief
pitcher and you're cranky, you're not even in the dugout.
In football, you know, at practice you split off offense
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and defense. But I look at George Pickens and he's
clearly pouting. You know, somebody probably got to his agent,
You're we're gonna franchise tag yet, and he's not happy.
In football, the roster is big enough where not everybody's
happy all the time. But I do think for a
prominent player to be kind of cranky, moody, power vaing,
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it does matter not a gunner on special teams. Would
you re sign George Pickens knowing much like Georgia Pittsburgen
now Dallas, you don't know exactly what you're getting weak
to week mood wise with him.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
You know, it's something that I talk about dude some
corporate speaking, and I talked about it with our company
as well, with it with our line company and with
our team. You know, culture in an organization, it's not equitable.
And when I say that, it's it's exactly what you're
talking about. If you're a prominent player and you're unhappy,
you're not putting team first, you're not doing some of
those things you really can't affect even a locker room
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of sixty guys, it can affect, you know, the entire culture.
And so I don't know that situation in and out.
You know, receivers are historically divas. I hope Eric Moles
listens to this because he was a pain in the
ass when I was in Buffalo, but he was a
great player and I love him to death, and we
were able to bring him around, you know. So what
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it really takes, you know, it takes strong leadership within
that locker room to bring them around, you know. And
that was one of the reasons that you know, the
Patriots with their dynasty, you know, they could bring in
guys that had had problems elsewhere because that leadership came
in the locker room, you know, I mean, it was
we just talked about Rabel. It was Rabel, it was
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William mcguinnis, it was Rodney Harrison, it was Lawyer malloy,
it was there were a lot of these guys on
the defensive side of the ball that would just grab
somebody and they would bring them into the fold. And so,
you know, if you're going to have a player like that,
that leadership has to happen inside the locker room. It's
very hard for a coach at the top to to go,
you know, rein that in I think that that comes
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from inside the locker room.
Speaker 4 (09:43):
So if you're going to have a player that's.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
Having a problem like that, man, you know you got
to you got to address it directly and right away.
Otherwise it actually really can affect the rest of your
locker room, mostly because if one part of your team
is able to act that way, it gives others permiss
to act that way, or it brings their performance down
because well, you know, why do I have to give
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everything I've got when that guy clearly isn't. So you
really do have to address it. I'm not saying it
can't work. It can work, but you have to have
great leadership in the locker room. And order for that
to work.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
You know, I was watching two A last night and
I've said before, you're six six. I am a big believer.
If you look at the first place quarterbacks in this league,
they're six three and up. That's just the reality. Kyler Murray,
Age Quick, Russell Wilson Age Quick to last night, he
doesn't feel like the same player. And I think a
lot of it is this is a hard league. Big
(10:37):
men survive. I mean, you're a classic example. You look
like an NBA guy when and I've stood next to
you and I'm six to two. Take me to your career,
and I don't want to pick on Tua where your
size was a huge advantage because you didn't have great
old lines for your fourteen years you got you had
a couple of Herbert years where you had guys connected
to your hip.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
You know, things being equal, it's better to be bigger,
you know. I mean, it's just you know, you've got
a couple extra inches, a couple extra inches, a viewpoint
down the field. I do think it's a it's a
particular challenge from the pocket.
Speaker 4 (11:14):
If if you're not.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
You know, if you if you can't see over the
top of these guys sometimes. But yeah, I watched too
a play last night and I've always been a fan
of his game and I'm a fan of the guy,
but man, it was it was it was not great
to watch last night.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
So I don't know exactly what's going on. You know.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
It's always more complicated than we want it to be calling,
you know, in terms of what's going on, you know,
down the field, with what kind of what's going on stematically.
It's never just simple like, hey, the quarterback's not playing well.
It's that's we like to boil it down and make
it that simple, and that's not what it is. But
something's not right, you know. That's that's clearly evident because
Tua is not playing to the standard that we've seen
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him play at in the past right now, you know,
and I'm I'm confident he can get back there, but
there's something going on because it's it definitely doesn't look
like what we would expect from from Tua right now.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
On the field, the Rams are probably the best team
in the league and it literally is an embarrassment of
riches now that Blake Korham's playing well, it looks good.
They play Seattle on Thursday, now, I think Seattle is
one of the only teams that can go toe to
toe with the Rams. Everybody is concerned about Sam Darnold
and the interceptions. I have defended quarterbacks for years that
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are aggressive.
Speaker 6 (12:28):
Throw it down the field.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
I was a huge Andrew Luck fan farv They l
way through picks. When you look at Donald, what do
you see and are you bothered by his picks?
Speaker 4 (12:42):
No, I'm not. Sam's a heck of a player and
he's been.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
That's one of my favorite stories over the past few
years is to watch his rise after he was exiled
to the Jets. Uh, you know with a where quarterbacks
go to die. We all know that, right, and uh,
you know, so it's been. It's been great to watch
his rise. I'm not bothered, you know. I think it's
a it's something that's that's an easy fix for him.
Speaker 4 (13:05):
But man, with the Rams.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
You know, one thing Colin we that we have to
talk about is Matt Stafford. Man, the guy is playing
at such a high level and for some reason, Matthew
Stafford when we talk about when you hear the great
quarterbacks in the league talked about year after year after year,
Matt Stafford's not very often in that conversation we talk
about all these other guys, and I almost think he's
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just a victim of being so consistently excellent that it
it becomes not interesting to talk about because you know,
he's just has been consistently, you know, excellent since he
came in the league.
Speaker 4 (13:41):
And he was excellent.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
You know, he was in Detroit before Dan Campbell got there,
so he was playing great football on bad teams. But man,
the guy is playing such great football this year. He's
got great weapons around him, and I'm just I think
he should be the MVP.
Speaker 4 (13:56):
I hope he is.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
I think he deserves it, and I just think we
need to he needs to be in the conversation more, Colin.
So I'm putting that on you from now when you
talk about the great quarterbacks uh in the in the NFL,
make sure you always include Matt Stafford on that list, man,
because he's been consistently great for many, many years now,
and it's cool to see him, you know, surrounded by
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some guys that are allowing him to really shine.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
Yeah, when they talk about the term arm talent, he's
kind of the definition of arm talent. Like he could
pitch in the bigs. He's an NFL quarterback. You were
one of those guys. Double Back Winery is the name
of it, the bled cell Family Winery. You're in ben Oregon,
a gem in the Pacific Northwest. Will you be at
your wine bar today and will you sample your product?
Speaker 4 (14:41):
I will.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
We call that working, Colin. I'm going to go to work.
I have to go try some have to go try
some wine. And then we have our we have our
our company holiday party tonight, So that's an excuse to
work a little harder and drink a little bit more wine.
But but we've got man, We've got you know. We
talked about great teams, Man and Colin. The coolest thing
in our business. We have a rock star team. We've
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been very good in the past, and our team is
getting better every single year.
Speaker 7 (15:06):
Man.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
They keep just kicking ass for us and making me
look good when I go out and talk about the wine.
So it's really fun. And at the end of the
day we have to sit and drink wine and call
it work. So life's good.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
Man, Bledsoe Family Winery. Look it up online. I've been
looking at it during our interview. It says always great
to see you, my friend.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
You two.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
Collu man, I'm Merry Christmas to you and everybody everybody
out there, and we'll talk to you again soon.
Speaker 4 (15:27):
All right, Drew Bledsoe, it really is.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
Double back is a unbelievable The cab is unbelievable. It's
not you know, Drew's been doing this for a long time. Walla,
wall up Bend, Oregon. It's just fantastic. All right, I'm
gonna do a break comeback with Herdline News. Quarterbacks all
love Stafford. If you ask quarterbacks about quarterbacks, they're all like,
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it's like a comics comic, an actors actor. They're all like, No,
it's that's Stafford guy in La.
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Speaker 2 (16:27):
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Speaker 8 (16:30):
Oh, I've been waiting on this story for a good hour.
It's your boy, Sam Donald and the Seahawks.
Speaker 6 (16:35):
Huge game Thursday cap.
Speaker 8 (16:37):
Yeah, Sam Donald's been on the struggle bus. He's got
a one way ticket on the struggle bus for about
the last month.
Speaker 6 (16:43):
Now, I'll have some stats for you.
Speaker 8 (16:44):
Shortly, they nearly lost to Philip Rivers, the forty four
year old dad bod who climbed off the sofa and
went to Seattle nearly one as a fourteen point dog. Anyways,
here's Sam Donald talking about offensive issues which have plagued
Seattle of late.
Speaker 4 (17:00):
For us, we just got to start faster as an offense.
We got to finish in the red zone.
Speaker 5 (17:04):
It's I feel like it's becoming a thing now these
next few weeks, and.
Speaker 4 (17:06):
We got to get it figured out. You know. I
feel like our defense is playing really really good football.
But yeah, we just gotta we.
Speaker 6 (17:14):
Gotta step it up a little bit as an offense,
you know, And that starts with me.
Speaker 4 (17:18):
But we just gotta we gotta play better.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
How do you not love Sam Darnold never a victim?
Starts with me. That guy is such a good guy.
Speaker 8 (17:27):
Clearly, very nice guy. I was such a fan of
his when he was on the Jets.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
Now the bad news last some more positive stuff. Last
thirty eight starts which is Caroline at the end, Minnesota
Seattle higher winning percentage than the Goat and mahomes awesome.
Speaker 8 (17:46):
Yeah they I mean they won a lot of games
last year in Minnesota. Okay, Now to what matters is
the last three games, Colin, This is staggering. So the
staff was like, you know, the offense hasn't scored a
touchdown in the first half in the last three games.
Speaker 6 (17:59):
So I dug in the drives. Look at this.
Speaker 8 (18:01):
Fifteen drives in the last three games. Zero touchdowns. Offensively,
they basically, Colin, they had one drive over fifty yards
in the first half of the last three games. So
let me ask you this. When you look at this
and you're like, oh wait. Kubiak last year, remember how
hot he started in New Orleans.
Speaker 6 (18:20):
I mean his car was cooking.
Speaker 8 (18:21):
They were scoring forty points, petered out end of the season.
Speaker 6 (18:24):
Quietly, Kubiak, let's move on. Sam Donald.
Speaker 8 (18:28):
Last year started hot with O'Connell, petered out at the end, struggled.
Speaker 6 (18:31):
Done.
Speaker 8 (18:32):
This is happening again to Kubiak and Donald Collen.
Speaker 6 (18:36):
What's the concern level?
Speaker 1 (18:38):
First of all, weather it gets worse later a season.
His offense is harder. Secondly, offensive lines of physical position.
Nobody's offensive line is healthy. Seattles was bad last year,
better could be dinged up. Also, let's be honest, it's
a long season. It gets repetitive. Teams go high and low.
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I mean, I mean, this week Denver comes off that
huge Green Bay win. Would you be shocked if they
lose to Jacksonville? Like it's hard and as the season
goes on, you've exhausted every play in every set and
every motion defense and running games or paramount Seattle is
winning games, my young friend, all right?
Speaker 6 (19:19):
And then another set for you? So you want to go.
Speaker 8 (19:22):
First nine games this season Donald was unbelievable, seventeen touchdowns,
six picks, seventy one percent completions, last five starting with
that Rams game, sixty two percent completions. He's falling down
nine percent, five touchdowns, five picks, down four We're against
the Rams, but the numbers are significantly depressed. One could
argue the Seahawks are winning in spite of Sam Darnold
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in the last few games. I'm not willing to go
that far, but I do think you can say, Colin,
can I interest you.
Speaker 6 (19:52):
In a first half under in Ram Seahawks?
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Okay? Yes, yes, but let me ask you. Here are
the three quarterbacks. I keep being told we have real
concerns over bonicks, Sam Darnold, Caleb Williams.
Speaker 6 (20:07):
What are their combined numbers? They keep winning? I like winners.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
I'm not in the stats.
Speaker 6 (20:17):
Can we delete that? Are we live right now? Stats?
Speaker 1 (20:20):
No?
Speaker 8 (20:20):
Okay, all right, let's move on to the next story.
This is a sad one. Pete Carroll and the Raiders.
Holy hell, this team is a disaster. Do you remember
when he got the job, He's like, oh, we could
turn it around. We're a player or two away. Pete
said he expected the team to compete right away, not rebuild.
Speaker 6 (20:36):
They're now two and twelve. They are in the mix
for the numeral Uno pick in the draft.
Speaker 8 (20:42):
Here's Pete Carroll on his job security and the Raiders
as a whole.
Speaker 6 (20:47):
Do you feel like you're coaching four?
Speaker 4 (20:49):
Your job? But I wonder how did you kind of like?
Speaker 5 (20:51):
No, I don't feel like that at all.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
I really don't.
Speaker 4 (20:53):
I don't. I'm well beyond that.
Speaker 5 (20:55):
I blindly optimistic as I am. You know, I thought
we would come in here and we'd have a big
factor in this club, and we would be able to
find success that we would be proud of and right
now doesn't feel like that.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
Yeah, it's not that they're losing, it's how they're losing.
Seventy five yards of offense, so you know, it's beyond losing.
A lot of teams lose, they lose close, they're competitive,
they fight, it's how they're losing.
Speaker 8 (21:24):
You see that line against the Texans in Houston with
fourteen and a half, I mean you kind of want
to just lay it, bet it and forget it, as
they like to say.
Speaker 6 (21:35):
Let me just ask you this. It just hit me.
Speaker 8 (21:38):
Old guy Bill Belichick goes to college total flop. The
last two presidents have been very old, and they've both
struggled greatly. Pete Carroll goes to the Raiders old. I mean,
at some point, do we need just to say, hey, guys,
I know you had a good run. Maybe it's time
to just shut it down and leave the coaching and
politics to younger folks.
Speaker 6 (21:57):
I don't.
Speaker 8 (21:58):
Pete Carroll has been looksless on the sideline coling.
Speaker 6 (22:01):
He has like no idea what to do. He's like, oh,
let's star.
Speaker 8 (22:04):
Kiddie Pickett, they had seventy five yards.
Speaker 6 (22:07):
I'm not being an agist here.
Speaker 8 (22:08):
I know that might sound bad, but it's like, come on, guys, like,
what are we doing here?
Speaker 6 (22:13):
I don't see any way Pete Carroll survives.
Speaker 5 (22:15):
Do you l?
Speaker 1 (22:15):
I think the last two years he and John Snyder
had issues Pete's I'm not going to get personal. It's
been disappointing. I don't think from ownership down it's working.
I believe if you're gonna hire a defensive coach, you
got to go to Miko Ryans or Mike McDonald or
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maybe the next one is Jesse Menjer you gotta go young.
A lot of these older defensive coaches, Ron Rivera, Pete Belichick,
sometimes Tomlin, they feel they don't quite understand the world's changed.
You have to be a lead on offense to win
great defenses like Houston.
Speaker 6 (22:53):
Houston's going to be.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
A number seven seed and easily has the best defense
in the league. What does that tell you about defense
in the modern era? There's limitations on your defense. Philadelphia's
defense is amazing. Yeah, they're struggling. Why because they can't
get the offense right. So if you're gonna go defense,
there's an argument. Lovey Smith was like struggle to bit
the end you gotta go young in defense. So yes,
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Jesse Minterer would be a guy I would look at.
Speaker 8 (23:19):
So if I'm Jesse Minter and I see that the
Titan's job is open with cam Ward, the Giant's job
is open, and the Raiders, which one of those appeals
to you if you're Jesse Minter, or do you just
stay with Herbert and Harball for another year? That's the
answer exactly. I don't think this is a great job. Honestly,
I know not to make it about the Jets, but
like I know, Glenn has not been great. I'm not
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dumping him because there's nobody out there. I don't see
any great candidates. I do think Pete gets run and
you know, obviously you could flex Tom Brady and he
could probably bring in a big name. But final story, Colin,
let's go to college football.
Speaker 6 (23:50):
Big day in the.
Speaker 8 (23:51):
College football world, a lot of speculation about Arch Manning,
and Arch's dad confirmed that are Commanding will return to
Texas for the twenty twenty sixth season. He's not going
to enter the draft. I don't think this surprises anybody.
We knew this after Week one. I will just say,
you know, Arch ended the season on a high note. Right,
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He looked pretty good in that an M game, certainly
better than he did early. He's still got some work
to do. We got it schedule next year.
Speaker 6 (24:22):
You want you want to see it?
Speaker 1 (24:23):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (24:23):
Yeah, yeah, next year?
Speaker 6 (24:24):
Not great.
Speaker 8 (24:25):
They gotta face Ohio State, Oklahoma, Ole Miss, LSU, A
and m. This is Tennessee, Florida, this is life in
the SEC. Like, it's not going to be easy.
Speaker 4 (24:35):
For arch Well, all Miss won't be as good.
Speaker 6 (24:38):
Well, Lane Kiffin is gonna be there. They're gonna hit
the portal hard Man.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
No, that's the LSU.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
LSU will be great.
Speaker 6 (24:44):
Oh I'm sorry LSU. Yes, yes, yes, Lane Kiff.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
Well, next year's class, we'll have arch manning, Jade, and Mayava.
Speaker 4 (24:51):
As starters.
Speaker 6 (24:52):
I'll Dante Moore does he come out?
Speaker 1 (24:55):
If he If he comes out next year, he would
be the number one pick. He and arch Man think
would be the number one pick.
Speaker 6 (25:01):
And keep an eye on the kid from Florida who's transferring.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
He's pretty good.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
He throws a lot of picks, a lot of picks.
He's really inconsistent.
Speaker 8 (25:07):
What about your guy, Julian saying I'm not anywhere close
on that.
Speaker 6 (25:11):
I love Julia is under No, Underwood was a red shirt.
He was a freshman this year, so no, he's not eligible.
Speaker 8 (25:16):
But yeah, as we always say, next year's draft is
stacked at quarterback. Mateer from Oklahoma. I'm very curious to
see what he looks like. By the way, Friday night,
so am I is he playing Friday? I think they
play Friday Oklahoma Alabama.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
Wow, that's a good game. That's a good Friday.
Speaker 8 (25:36):
A couple of potential NFL quarterbacks. You know you're in
the Midwest. You should just gonna take a little drive
with a couple hours down there at Oklahoma.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
That's not a couple hours. A couple hours for me
to get to the verbs. A couple hours is Green Bay.
Speaker 4 (25:50):
J Mack with the News.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by the
herd Line News.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
By the way, Mike McDaniel, who I argued earlier, he's
not my cup of te as a head coach, but
there's not a great pool out there, and the GM
didn't do a good job to is regressed. There's an
argument the new GM says, I'm gonna keep Mike McDaniel
around for a year and we're going to go draft
a young quarterback and see what I can get. I
think that's out there. Here's Mike McDaniel today at a
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pressure talking about her last night, talking about benching potentially to.
Speaker 9 (26:23):
I think that, you know, we're in the process of
game planning for the Cincinnati Bengals. So in that process,
we're trying to determine who'll give us the best chance
to win.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
Is that in your mind still toa or are you
considering a quarterback change this week?
Speaker 9 (26:41):
Well, I think the quarterback play last night was not
good enough, and so for me, everything's on the table.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
I'll throw this at sh Their next three games are Cincinnati, Burrow,
will play New England and Tampa. I'd rest a few
of your defensive starters. I'd go zero to three. They
currently have the number eleven pick. I'd play two. I
don't care. I would you're gonna lose to Tampa in
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New England because you don't have the players Cincinnati, maybe
rest your top running back whatever. I'd rest a few
guys and end up six and eleven, and you may
have to reach on a quarterback. Maybe you move down
and replenish their roster a little bit. But I think
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Mike McDaniel with a new quarterback move off Tua for
a year. It's interesting. He's an offensive coach, he's super bright,
and if you look at what he's done with Tua, folks,
Tua led the league in completions one year, passing yards
one year. I can argue Mike McDaniel has overachieved with Tua.
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I can make that argument I didn't like. My theory
has always been if you have two as a quarterback,
you have to have two things, a top six or
seven ozer line and a good backup quarterback. They're bad
at both. That's not Mike McDaniel's fault. So Quinn Ewers
is a more than capable backup. You know what, I think,
that's what I do. I'd play quin yours. I want
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to see what I got, Go play Quinn yours next
three weeks. I think that's what I would do. Zach Wilson,
I know what I've got, Quinn yours. Put him out there,
let's see if he can play. And if he can,
you don't have to draft the quarterback, but I would
sure like to have that eleventh pick become like the
seventh pick, because that's the territory that you can move
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down and get a four and a five. And because
they're they're not close. But McDaniel is good enough at
what he does. It's if I get the job as GM,
which has always been my dream job. I get the
job as GM, I can sit around and go to
Steven Ross and say I want.
Speaker 4 (28:56):
To keep them a year.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
He actually he actually, I'm looking for an offensive guy. Anyway,
you tell me the market instead of locking in for
five years and seventy million dollars, let's just let's just
see what happens. Life moves quickly.
Speaker 4 (29:16):
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So many interesting things happening to college football playoffs starts
on Friday. Is the Big Ten now at the top,
at least just superior to the SEC. There's an argument
to be made four Pro Bowls fourteen years in the NFL.
Drew Bledsoe is now joining us. Wine joining us live
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and I'll circle back to that in a second. The
Bloodsoe family Winery is amazing. You know it's interesting. Philip
Rivers forty four chopped it up. Kirk Cousins on Thursday
chopped it up. Tommy at forty four. Stafford had a
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bad back all camp there is something you told me
this years ago. You were actually in a wine store
in Connecticut, Maximum Beverage, and you told me this. You said, Colin,
I can still go in the parking lot and throw
a steam route. My legs are done. I watched Philip Rivers.
I was like, that's what Drew told me. You can
always throw it right.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Yeah, man, that doesn't really go away. I actually got
the non blood nephew. This practice squad tight end for
the Dolphins and those I got out and loose it up.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
Let me let me showre how we used to do it.
Speaker 5 (01:43):
Man.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Let me, you know, say, yeah, you can always throw it.
That doesn't really go away. It's being able to take
the hits and do the rest of it. But yeah,
that was kind of cool for us old guys to
see Philip Rivers come off, come off the couch and
have some success.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
Yeah. It was fun.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
So you know, it's interesting when I look at the Patriots.
You were with Mike Rabel one year, and I still
contend they're in a rebuild and I want you to
go back to your second year as a quarterback.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
So you're like a sponge.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
You're trying to take all this stuff in Rabel's a
tough coach. The roster's good. It's not as good as Seattle,
It's not as good as a Ram, It's not as
good as the Lions or Eagles. Go back to year two.
Are you kind of amazed by Drake May or a
bow Nix or a Caleb or do you think, hey,
the world's changed. These guys get more snaps in high
school now.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
Here two is a big year, colin, you know, because
that first year man, everything is so fast, you know,
I think Phil Simms famously described it as sticking your
head of the popcorn machine. You know, it's just like
everything is so fast. Year two it slows down really dramatically.
And then if you have you know what, you know
what Drake May has, you have a great play caller,
you've got a roster that's being built around you, and
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you have great support, you know, then you have a
chance to really go and have some success pretty quickly.
But year two generally is a time when you can
make a big jump because everything really starts to slow down.
And and you know, Drake did some great things his
rookie year. There were flashes of what he could potentially be, uh,
but they didn't have much support around him, and you know,
there was a problem last year.
Speaker 4 (03:19):
Now he's got you know, he's got the We like
to call him.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
The other Josh McDaniels, because our Josh McDaniels is our winemaker.
But the but the other Josh McDaniels, the other play caller.
He's he's great for quarterbacks. And Rabel's just awesome, man.
He you know, he was a guy when we were playing.
He had just so much energy Colin and you know,
he would he and brucek He actually was the same
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way during practice. They would go run scout team kickoff
just to burn off extra energy.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
You know.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
He's like almost like a labrador, right, Like she just
has so much energy and that really translates to the players.
And he is a tough coach, but he's tough in
a good way.
Speaker 4 (03:57):
Man. They're having fun, you know they I was.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
Out there, we were out there when they played the
Browns and he comes into the locker room and it
looks like he just came off the field. He's so
fired up, and he's really got the guys buying end
to what he's preaching. And man, they're just they're playing
good football because I was with you, man, I thought
they were rebuilding, but that rebuild seems to have been
fast forwarded by probably two years in my estimation, with
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what they're putting on the field this year.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Caleb Williams is completing fifty eight percent of his throws.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
I think I would be bothered more if he didn't
have all the horsepower and torque behind him. Josh Allen
now has increased his completion percentage, but he doesn't tow
the ball downfield anymore. He just throws the tight ends
because they haven't drafted receiver. Well, I'm not losing a
ton of sleep over it, but to sum, it's alarmingly low.
(04:48):
Where do you stand on completion percentage? When you have
you had it by the way, you had the best
arm in the league, When you've got more torque than
ninety eight percent of the planet.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
There's a there's a problem sometimes And I and you
know you said it, I fell into this. When you've
got a big arm, you always feel like you can
make the big throw downfield.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
And you know, I think over time.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
What I learned and what you've seen with Josh and
when Caleb will get here is like okay, you know,
it's it's it's great to it's great to have that
and have that ability when you really need to call
on it. But it's okay to take the five yard
It's okay to throw the check down a little more often.
You know, you just relieve a lot of stress on
yourself if you're in you know, second, sixth or third
and three then than you are if you're in third
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and ten a lot. So, you know, it's something I
think you'll see a progression with Caleb because he's got
huge arm talent. But there's a switch that has to happen.
You're like, okay, let's take the easy ones. You know,
let's go ahead and take these easy ones and then
you know, when we have to, we can make the
big throw downfield. It's one of the things that's you know,
allowed Pat Mahomes to be, you know, so amazingly effective,
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especially in the last few years. And I know the
Chiefs are the Chiefs this year, but in the last
few years, you know, you see him he takes the
easy ones in the first three quarters and then when
you need him to put on his cape at the
end of the game, then Mahomes will put on his
cape at the end of the game and go make
these amazing plays.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
But when you watch you.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
Know padd over the last three, four or five years,
you know he would take the easy ones a lot
and then and then when he needed to call on
that amazing ability, he would do that.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
So I think that's where Caleb is.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
Doesn't concern me, but there, you know, if you watch,
if he's if he's getting the right support, you will
see a progression over his career where he's going to
be okay taking the easy ones, you know a little
more often, the completion percentage will go up, and then
when he needs to be superman, he can do that.
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Speaker 1 (07:18):
So I've always kind of felt that in the NBA,
because the locker room is so small, like nine guys
play sometimes eight, that one bad attitude can ruin a
locker room. In baseball, you know, if you're a relief
pitcher and you're cranky, you're not even in the dugout.
In football, you know, at practice you split off offense
(07:39):
and defense. But I look at George Pickens and he's
clearly pouting. You know, somebody probably got to his agent,
You're we're gonna franchise tag yet, and he's not happy.
In football, the roster is big enough where not everybody's
happy all the time. But I do think for a
prominent player to be kind of cranky, moody, power vaing,
(08:00):
it does matter not a gunner on special teams. Would
you re sign George Pickens knowing much like Georgia Pittsburgen
now Dallas, you don't know exactly what you're getting weak
to week mood wise with him.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
You know, it's something that I talk about dude some
corporate speaking, and I talked about it with our company
as well, with it with our line company and with
our team. You know, culture in an organization, it's not equitable.
And when I say that, it's it's exactly what you're
talking about. If you're a prominent player and you're unhappy,
you're not putting team first, you're not doing some of
those things you really can't affect even a locker room
(08:38):
of sixty guys, it can affect, you know, the entire culture.
And so I don't know that situation in and out.
You know, receivers are historically divas. I hope Eric Moles
listens to this because he was a pain in the
ass when I was in Buffalo, but he was a
great player and I love him to death, and we
were able to bring him around, you know. So what
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it really takes, you know, it takes strong leadership within
that locker room to bring them around, you know. And
that was one of the reasons that you know, the
Patriots with their dynasty, you know, they could bring in
guys that had had problems elsewhere because that leadership came
in the locker room, you know, I mean, it was
we just talked about Rabel. It was Rabel, it was
(09:20):
William mcguinnis, it was Rodney Harrison, it was Lawyer malloy,
it was there were a lot of these guys on
the defensive side of the ball that would just grab
somebody and they would bring them into the fold. And so,
you know, if you're going to have a player like that,
that leadership has to happen inside the locker room. It's
very hard for a coach at the top to to go,
you know, rein that in I think that that comes
(09:41):
from inside the locker room.
Speaker 4 (09:43):
So if you're going to have a player that's.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
Having a problem like that, man, you know you got
to you got to address it directly and right away.
Otherwise it actually really can affect the rest of your
locker room, mostly because if one part of your team
is able to act that way, it gives others permiss
to act that way, or it brings their performance down
because well, you know, why do I have to give
(10:06):
everything I've got when that guy clearly isn't. So you
really do have to address it. I'm not saying it
can't work. It can work, but you have to have
great leadership in the locker room. And order for that
to work.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
You know, I was watching two A last night and
I've said before, you're six six. I am a big believer.
If you look at the first place quarterbacks in this league,
they're six three and up. That's just the reality. Kyler Murray,
Age Quick, Russell Wilson Age Quick to last night, he
doesn't feel like the same player. And I think a
lot of it is this is a hard league. Big
(10:37):
men survive. I mean, you're a classic example. You look
like an NBA guy when and I've stood next to
you and I'm six to two. Take me to your career,
and I don't want to pick on Tua where your
size was a huge advantage because you didn't have great
old lines for your fourteen years you got you had
a couple of Herbert years where you had guys connected
to your hip.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
You know, things being equal, it's better to be bigger,
you know. I mean, it's just you know, you've got
a couple extra inches, a couple extra inches, a viewpoint
down the field. I do think it's a it's a
particular challenge from the pocket.
Speaker 4 (11:14):
If if you're not.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
You know, if you if you can't see over the
top of these guys sometimes. But yeah, I watched too
a play last night and I've always been a fan
of his game and I'm a fan of the guy,
but man, it was it was it was not great
to watch last night.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
So I don't know exactly what's going on. You know.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
It's always more complicated than we want it to be calling,
you know, in terms of what's going on, you know,
down the field, with what kind of what's going on stematically.
It's never just simple like, hey, the quarterback's not playing well.
It's that's we like to boil it down and make
it that simple, and that's not what it is. But
something's not right, you know. That's that's clearly evident because
Tua is not playing to the standard that we've seen
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him play at in the past right now, you know,
and I'm I'm confident he can get back there, but
there's something going on because it's it definitely doesn't look
like what we would expect from from Tua right now.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
On the field, the Rams are probably the best team
in the league and it literally is an embarrassment of
riches now that Blake Korham's playing well, it looks good.
They play Seattle on Thursday, now, I think Seattle is
one of the only teams that can go toe to
toe with the Rams. Everybody is concerned about Sam Darnold
and the interceptions. I have defended quarterbacks for years that
(12:27):
are aggressive.
Speaker 6 (12:28):
Throw it down the field.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
I was a huge Andrew Luck fan farv They l
way through picks. When you look at Donald, what do
you see and are you bothered by his picks?
Speaker 4 (12:42):
No, I'm not. Sam's a heck of a player and
he's been.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
That's one of my favorite stories over the past few
years is to watch his rise after he was exiled
to the Jets. Uh, you know with a where quarterbacks
go to die. We all know that, right, and uh,
you know, so it's been. It's been great to watch
his rise. I'm not bothered, you know. I think it's
a it's something that's that's an easy fix for him.
Speaker 4 (13:05):
But man, with the Rams.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
You know, one thing Colin we that we have to
talk about is Matt Stafford. Man, the guy is playing
at such a high level and for some reason, Matthew
Stafford when we talk about when you hear the great
quarterbacks in the league talked about year after year after year,
Matt Stafford's not very often in that conversation we talk
about all these other guys, and I almost think he's
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just a victim of being so consistently excellent that it
it becomes not interesting to talk about because you know,
he's just has been consistently, you know, excellent since he
came in the league.
Speaker 4 (13:41):
And he was excellent.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
You know, he was in Detroit before Dan Campbell got there,
so he was playing great football on bad teams. But man,
the guy is playing such great football this year. He's
got great weapons around him, and I'm just I think
he should be the MVP.
Speaker 4 (13:56):
I hope he is.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
I think he deserves it, and I just think we
need to he needs to be in the conversation more, Colin.
So I'm putting that on you from now when you
talk about the great quarterbacks uh in the in the NFL,
make sure you always include Matt Stafford on that list, man,
because he's been consistently great for many, many years now,
and it's cool to see him, you know, surrounded by
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some guys that are allowing him to really shine.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
Yeah, when they talk about the term arm talent, he's
kind of the definition of arm talent. Like he could
pitch in the bigs. He's an NFL quarterback. You were
one of those guys. Double Back Winery is the name
of it, the bled cell Family Winery. You're in ben Oregon,
a gem in the Pacific Northwest. Will you be at
your wine bar today and will you sample your product?
Speaker 4 (14:41):
I will.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
We call that working, Colin. I'm going to go to work.
I have to go try some have to go try
some wine. And then we have our we have our
our company holiday party tonight, So that's an excuse to
work a little harder and drink a little bit more wine.
But but we've got man, We've got you know. We
talked about great teams, Man and Colin. The coolest thing
in our business. We have a rock star team. We've
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been very good in the past, and our team is
getting better every single year.
Speaker 7 (15:06):
Man.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
They keep just kicking ass for us and making me
look good when I go out and talk about the wine.
So it's really fun. And at the end of the
day we have to sit and drink wine and call
it work. So life's good.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
Man, Bledsoe Family Winery. Look it up online. I've been
looking at it during our interview. It says always great
to see you, my friend.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
You two.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
Collu man, I'm Merry Christmas to you and everybody everybody
out there, and we'll talk to you again soon.
Speaker 4 (15:27):
All right, Drew Bledsoe, it really is.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
Double back is a unbelievable The cab is unbelievable. It's
not you know, Drew's been doing this for a long time. Walla,
wall up Bend, Oregon. It's just fantastic. All right, I'm
gonna do a break comeback with Herdline News. Quarterbacks all
love Stafford. If you ask quarterbacks about quarterbacks, they're all like,
(15:50):
it's like a comics comic, an actors actor. They're all like, No,
it's that's Stafford guy in La.
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Speaker 2 (16:27):
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Speaker 8 (16:30):
Oh, I've been waiting on this story for a good hour.
It's your boy, Sam Donald and the Seahawks.
Speaker 6 (16:35):
Huge game Thursday cap.
Speaker 8 (16:37):
Yeah, Sam Donald's been on the struggle bus. He's got
a one way ticket on the struggle bus for about
the last month.
Speaker 6 (16:43):
Now, I'll have some stats for you.
Speaker 8 (16:44):
Shortly, they nearly lost to Philip Rivers, the forty four
year old dad bod who climbed off the sofa and
went to Seattle nearly one as a fourteen point dog. Anyways,
here's Sam Donald talking about offensive issues which have plagued
Seattle of late.
Speaker 4 (17:00):
For us, we just got to start faster as an offense.
We got to finish in the red zone.
Speaker 5 (17:04):
It's I feel like it's becoming a thing now these
next few weeks, and.
Speaker 4 (17:06):
We got to get it figured out. You know. I
feel like our defense is playing really really good football.
But yeah, we just gotta we.
Speaker 6 (17:14):
Gotta step it up a little bit as an offense,
you know, And that starts with me.
Speaker 4 (17:18):
But we just gotta we gotta play better.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
How do you not love Sam Darnold never a victim?
Starts with me. That guy is such a good guy.
Speaker 8 (17:27):
Clearly, very nice guy. I was such a fan of
his when he was on the Jets.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
Now the bad news last some more positive stuff. Last
thirty eight starts which is Caroline at the end, Minnesota
Seattle higher winning percentage than the Goat and mahomes awesome.
Speaker 8 (17:46):
Yeah they I mean they won a lot of games
last year in Minnesota. Okay, Now to what matters is
the last three games, Colin, This is staggering. So the
staff was like, you know, the offense hasn't scored a
touchdown in the first half in the last three games.
Speaker 6 (17:59):
So I dug in the drives. Look at this.
Speaker 8 (18:01):
Fifteen drives in the last three games. Zero touchdowns. Offensively,
they basically, Colin, they had one drive over fifty yards
in the first half of the last three games. So
let me ask you this. When you look at this
and you're like, oh wait. Kubiak last year, remember how
hot he started in New Orleans.
Speaker 6 (18:20):
I mean his car was cooking.
Speaker 8 (18:21):
They were scoring forty points, petered out end of the season.
Speaker 6 (18:24):
Quietly, Kubiak, let's move on. Sam Donald.
Speaker 8 (18:28):
Last year started hot with O'Connell, petered out at the end, struggled.
Speaker 6 (18:31):
Done.
Speaker 8 (18:32):
This is happening again to Kubiak and Donald Collen.
Speaker 6 (18:36):
What's the concern level?
Speaker 1 (18:38):
First of all, weather it gets worse later a season.
His offense is harder. Secondly, offensive lines of physical position.
Nobody's offensive line is healthy. Seattles was bad last year,
better could be dinged up. Also, let's be honest, it's
a long season. It gets repetitive. Teams go high and low.
(18:58):
I mean, I mean, this week Denver comes off that
huge Green Bay win. Would you be shocked if they
lose to Jacksonville? Like it's hard and as the season
goes on, you've exhausted every play in every set and
every motion defense and running games or paramount Seattle is
winning games, my young friend, all right?
Speaker 6 (19:19):
And then another set for you? So you want to go.
Speaker 8 (19:22):
First nine games this season Donald was unbelievable, seventeen touchdowns,
six picks, seventy one percent completions, last five starting with
that Rams game, sixty two percent completions. He's falling down
nine percent, five touchdowns, five picks, down four We're against
the Rams, but the numbers are significantly depressed. One could
argue the Seahawks are winning in spite of Sam Darnold
(19:46):
in the last few games. I'm not willing to go
that far, but I do think you can say, Colin,
can I interest you.
Speaker 6 (19:52):
In a first half under in Ram Seahawks?
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Okay? Yes, yes, but let me ask you. Here are
the three quarterbacks. I keep being told we have real
concerns over bonicks, Sam Darnold, Caleb Williams.
Speaker 6 (20:07):
What are their combined numbers? They keep winning? I like winners.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
I'm not in the stats.
Speaker 6 (20:17):
Can we delete that? Are we live right now? Stats?
Speaker 1 (20:20):
No?
Speaker 8 (20:20):
Okay, all right, let's move on to the next story.
This is a sad one. Pete Carroll and the Raiders.
Holy hell, this team is a disaster. Do you remember
when he got the job, He's like, oh, we could
turn it around. We're a player or two away. Pete
said he expected the team to compete right away, not rebuild.
Speaker 6 (20:36):
They're now two and twelve. They are in the mix
for the numeral Uno pick in the draft.
Speaker 8 (20:42):
Here's Pete Carroll on his job security and the Raiders
as a whole.
Speaker 6 (20:47):
Do you feel like you're coaching four?
Speaker 4 (20:49):
Your job? But I wonder how did you kind of like?
Speaker 5 (20:51):
No, I don't feel like that at all.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
I really don't.
Speaker 4 (20:53):
I don't. I'm well beyond that.
Speaker 5 (20:55):
I blindly optimistic as I am. You know, I thought
we would come in here and we'd have a big
factor in this club, and we would be able to
find success that we would be proud of and right
now doesn't feel like that.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
Yeah, it's not that they're losing, it's how they're losing.
Seventy five yards of offense, so you know, it's beyond losing.
A lot of teams lose, they lose close, they're competitive,
they fight, it's how they're losing.
Speaker 8 (21:24):
You see that line against the Texans in Houston with
fourteen and a half, I mean you kind of want
to just lay it, bet it and forget it, as
they like to say.
Speaker 6 (21:35):
Let me just ask you this. It just hit me.
Speaker 8 (21:38):
Old guy Bill Belichick goes to college total flop. The
last two presidents have been very old, and they've both
struggled greatly. Pete Carroll goes to the Raiders old. I mean,
at some point, do we need just to say, hey, guys,
I know you had a good run. Maybe it's time
to just shut it down and leave the coaching and
politics to younger folks.
Speaker 6 (21:57):
I don't.
Speaker 8 (21:58):
Pete Carroll has been looksless on the sideline coling.
Speaker 6 (22:01):
He has like no idea what to do. He's like, oh,
let's star.
Speaker 8 (22:04):
Kiddie Pickett, they had seventy five yards.
Speaker 6 (22:07):
I'm not being an agist here.
Speaker 8 (22:08):
I know that might sound bad, but it's like, come on, guys, like,
what are we doing here?
Speaker 6 (22:13):
I don't see any way Pete Carroll survives.
Speaker 5 (22:15):
Do you l?
Speaker 1 (22:15):
I think the last two years he and John Snyder
had issues Pete's I'm not going to get personal. It's
been disappointing. I don't think from ownership down it's working.
I believe if you're gonna hire a defensive coach, you
got to go to Miko Ryans or Mike McDonald or
(22:36):
maybe the next one is Jesse Menjer you gotta go young.
A lot of these older defensive coaches, Ron Rivera, Pete Belichick,
sometimes Tomlin, they feel they don't quite understand the world's changed.
You have to be a lead on offense to win
great defenses like Houston.
Speaker 6 (22:53):
Houston's going to be.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
A number seven seed and easily has the best defense
in the league. What does that tell you about defense
in the modern era? There's limitations on your defense. Philadelphia's
defense is amazing. Yeah, they're struggling. Why because they can't
get the offense right. So if you're gonna go defense,
there's an argument. Lovey Smith was like struggle to bit
the end you gotta go young in defense. So yes,
(23:17):
Jesse Minterer would be a guy I would look at.
Speaker 8 (23:19):
So if I'm Jesse Minter and I see that the
Titan's job is open with cam Ward, the Giant's job
is open, and the Raiders, which one of those appeals
to you if you're Jesse Minter, or do you just
stay with Herbert and Harball for another year? That's the
answer exactly. I don't think this is a great job. Honestly,
I know not to make it about the Jets, but
like I know, Glenn has not been great. I'm not
(23:39):
dumping him because there's nobody out there. I don't see
any great candidates. I do think Pete gets run and
you know, obviously you could flex Tom Brady and he
could probably bring in a big name. But final story, Colin,
let's go to college football.
Speaker 6 (23:50):
Big day in the.
Speaker 8 (23:51):
College football world, a lot of speculation about Arch Manning,
and Arch's dad confirmed that are Commanding will return to
Texas for the twenty twenty sixth season. He's not going
to enter the draft. I don't think this surprises anybody.
We knew this after Week one. I will just say,
you know, Arch ended the season on a high note. Right,
(24:13):
He looked pretty good in that an M game, certainly
better than he did early. He's still got some work
to do. We got it schedule next year.
Speaker 6 (24:22):
You want you want to see it?
Speaker 1 (24:23):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (24:23):
Yeah, yeah, next year?
Speaker 6 (24:24):
Not great.
Speaker 8 (24:25):
They gotta face Ohio State, Oklahoma, Ole Miss, LSU, A
and m. This is Tennessee, Florida, this is life in
the SEC. Like, it's not going to be easy.
Speaker 4 (24:35):
For arch Well, all Miss won't be as good.
Speaker 6 (24:38):
Well, Lane Kiffin is gonna be there. They're gonna hit
the portal hard Man.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
No, that's the LSU.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
LSU will be great.
Speaker 6 (24:44):
Oh I'm sorry LSU. Yes, yes, yes, Lane Kiff.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
Well, next year's class, we'll have arch manning, Jade, and Mayava.
Speaker 4 (24:51):
As starters.
Speaker 6 (24:52):
I'll Dante Moore does he come out?
Speaker 1 (24:55):
If he If he comes out next year, he would
be the number one pick. He and arch Man think
would be the number one pick.
Speaker 6 (25:01):
And keep an eye on the kid from Florida who's transferring.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
He's pretty good.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
He throws a lot of picks, a lot of picks.
He's really inconsistent.
Speaker 8 (25:07):
What about your guy, Julian saying I'm not anywhere close
on that.
Speaker 6 (25:11):
I love Julia is under No, Underwood was a red shirt.
He was a freshman this year, so no, he's not eligible.
Speaker 8 (25:16):
But yeah, as we always say, next year's draft is
stacked at quarterback. Mateer from Oklahoma. I'm very curious to
see what he looks like. By the way, Friday night,
so am I is he playing Friday? I think they
play Friday Oklahoma Alabama.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
Wow, that's a good game. That's a good Friday.
Speaker 8 (25:36):
A couple of potential NFL quarterbacks. You know you're in
the Midwest. You should just gonna take a little drive
with a couple hours down there at Oklahoma.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
That's not a couple hours. A couple hours for me
to get to the verbs. A couple hours is Green Bay.
Speaker 4 (25:50):
J Mack with the News.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by the
herd Line News.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
By the way, Mike McDaniel, who I argued earlier, he's
not my cup of te as a head coach, but
there's not a great pool out there, and the GM
didn't do a good job to is regressed. There's an
argument the new GM says, I'm gonna keep Mike McDaniel
around for a year and we're going to go draft
a young quarterback and see what I can get. I
think that's out there. Here's Mike McDaniel today at a
(26:19):
pressure talking about her last night, talking about benching potentially to.
Speaker 9 (26:23):
I think that, you know, we're in the process of
game planning for the Cincinnati Bengals. So in that process,
we're trying to determine who'll give us the best chance
to win.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
Is that in your mind still toa or are you
considering a quarterback change this week?
Speaker 9 (26:41):
Well, I think the quarterback play last night was not
good enough, and so for me, everything's on the table.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
I'll throw this at sh Their next three games are Cincinnati, Burrow,
will play New England and Tampa. I'd rest a few
of your defensive starters. I'd go zero to three. They
currently have the number eleven pick. I'd play two. I
don't care. I would you're gonna lose to Tampa in
(27:13):
New England because you don't have the players Cincinnati, maybe
rest your top running back whatever. I'd rest a few
guys and end up six and eleven, and you may
have to reach on a quarterback. Maybe you move down
and replenish their roster a little bit. But I think
(27:33):
Mike McDaniel with a new quarterback move off Tua for
a year. It's interesting. He's an offensive coach, he's super bright,
and if you look at what he's done with Tua, folks,
Tua led the league in completions one year, passing yards
one year. I can argue Mike McDaniel has overachieved with Tua.
(27:55):
I can make that argument I didn't like. My theory
has always been if you have two as a quarterback,
you have to have two things, a top six or
seven ozer line and a good backup quarterback. They're bad
at both. That's not Mike McDaniel's fault. So Quinn Ewers
is a more than capable backup. You know what, I think,
that's what I do. I'd play quin yours. I want
(28:16):
to see what I got, Go play Quinn yours next
three weeks. I think that's what I would do. Zach Wilson,
I know what I've got, Quinn yours. Put him out there,
let's see if he can play. And if he can,
you don't have to draft the quarterback, but I would
sure like to have that eleventh pick become like the
seventh pick, because that's the territory that you can move
(28:38):
down and get a four and a five. And because
they're they're not close. But McDaniel is good enough at
what he does. It's if I get the job as GM,
which has always been my dream job. I get the
job as GM, I can sit around and go to
Steven Ross and say I want.
Speaker 4 (28:56):
To keep them a year.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
He actually he actually, I'm looking for an offensive guy. Anyway,
you tell me the market instead of locking in for
five years and seventy million dollars, let's just let's just
see what happens. Life moves quickly.
Speaker 4 (29:16):
It's to hurt
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