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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Folks, we're back on the Way concept presented by The
Ring magazine.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
And I am sitting next to the show stop King
of New York. What half your main event? July twelfth
and Louis Armstrong Stadium. It's Edger Belonga. What's up my man?

Speaker 1 (00:14):
Chilling bro Hey? First off, you didn't have to wear more.
You didn't have to have so much ice. I don't
know if it was Edgar Berloga or a freezer. I
was talking to this man guy ice. Dude, you're wearing
your my condo on your neck. What we're doing here?

Speaker 2 (00:27):
You just had a stunt on me?

Speaker 3 (00:28):
Like, man, you know this is my image. You know
there's I grew up, you know, loving, you know, looking good.
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (00:36):
I always I always feel I look good. I feel good.

Speaker 3 (00:40):
You know I could do the things I want good?

Speaker 2 (00:42):
So you think I could pull it off?

Speaker 4 (00:44):
Or now?

Speaker 2 (00:44):
I don't you know? I can pull the chain off.

Speaker 4 (00:47):
Maybe one maybe one, just.

Speaker 5 (00:49):
One little video you can you can pull it home, okay.

Speaker 3 (00:52):
But then you're gonna go from being like like you
look like you'd probably like do movies and ship okay,
to like a guy that I'm gonna get a I'm
gonna get a square off here.

Speaker 2 (01:01):
You know what I'm saying, have a nice and.

Speaker 3 (01:02):
Put the part yeah, change on that you're gonna really
like a New Yorker.

Speaker 1 (01:07):
I got a bunch of friends that are that live
up in this area Puerto Rican for you, how important
is it to put her on for not just the
city of New York, but for Puerto Rican heritage, for
for everything that that matters most to you.

Speaker 3 (01:20):
Is everything that's what's you know, I'm not going in
there by myself. You know, I'm going in there with
my team, with my family for Puerto Rico. There's a
lot of Puerto Ricans on the island that's with me,
you know. And I'm going in there with them, my ancestors,
you know, from from the eighteen hundreds.

Speaker 4 (01:36):
You know what I'm saying, That those people are going
in and that ring with me.

Speaker 3 (01:39):
You know, I think that now, I keep saying, I
know that I'm deserined for something great, and homs is
just in a way, you know what I'm saying, So
we can't overlook them, I can't look what's behind them.
And you know that's the kind of rematch and this
and there's a lot of things that's lined up for
us that could happen, you know, but right now we

(02:02):
got to focus on him, you know, because if we
don't get through him, everything goes out the window.

Speaker 1 (02:07):
A lot of you said, a lot of people in
your corner, and before we got on camera, you said,
I gotta perform.

Speaker 3 (02:13):
Yeah, I got to I'm home and my home. One
thing about New York is, bro, they love a fight,
and they love grit, and they love when you put
your balls on the table and get it, you know
what I'm saying, And they.

Speaker 4 (02:27):
Listen.

Speaker 3 (02:28):
New York is a place where if they love you,
they love you. But if they don't like you, they'll
ship on you. You see with the Knicks, they start
doing paraise and everything.

Speaker 5 (02:41):
Before Yeah, yeah, the little premature.

Speaker 4 (02:43):
Yeah, they go crazy.

Speaker 5 (02:44):
Bro, can't be doing that. You got the Celtics winning
last night, y'all thought the series is over.

Speaker 3 (02:48):
It ain't over yet, but they feel like it's a
victory because you know, the Knicks always been in the dump.

Speaker 4 (02:54):
So it's like when they get this far, as like.

Speaker 2 (02:56):
So are we back by the way or the Knicks back?

Speaker 4 (02:59):
I hope they are, you know what I'm saying. I
want them to win. They from New York.

Speaker 3 (03:02):
You know, I'm not like a big, big, big basketball fan,
but you know I've w repped New.

Speaker 2 (03:07):
York, you know, big like baseball, football.

Speaker 4 (03:09):
Now everything. You know.

Speaker 3 (03:10):
Jets, Giants, Okay, Okay, I love Jase, you know what
I'm saying, But Giants is my friend.

Speaker 4 (03:15):
Ok Yankees?

Speaker 3 (03:16):
You know I love the Yankees. I love the Mets.

Speaker 1 (03:19):
There's a lot of you're gonna love the Yankees and
the Mets, though, you gotta love I'm from New York
that I didn't know if that's the one thing about
me is.

Speaker 3 (03:25):
That if I get loved from if you get loved
from both places.

Speaker 2 (03:28):
You got you gotta reciprocate. Yeah, you gotta reciprocate.

Speaker 3 (03:31):
So I gotta be equal, you know what I'm saying.
I gotta be in the middle and just you know,
love both.

Speaker 1 (03:34):
So the Nets too, obviously Brooklyn the Brooklyn Nets, Yeah,
but they're not that's gotta be your squad.

Speaker 4 (03:42):
Yeah, but they just I don't know, I feel like
for me, they like know, still.

Speaker 5 (03:45):
Expansion team yea.

Speaker 2 (03:46):
They gotta used to be Jersey bound.

Speaker 4 (03:49):
They moved up here.

Speaker 2 (03:50):
Now claiming Brooklyn like that.

Speaker 4 (03:52):
It's crazy.

Speaker 2 (03:52):
I can't.

Speaker 1 (03:53):
I can't come up here and claim Brooklyn if I
just move up here, right. I'm from the South, I'm
from Tennessee, so we can't.

Speaker 4 (03:57):
Just you gotta go through me.

Speaker 2 (03:59):
I gotta check in.

Speaker 5 (04:00):
I'll check it. My father.

Speaker 2 (04:01):
I didn't know I had to check it. That's cool.
Uh So, yeah, talk to me about Hamza.

Speaker 6 (04:05):
Man.

Speaker 1 (04:06):
We just did the face off, we did the press conference.
You've been in front of him all day. What's the energy, man?
What are you feeling from him?

Speaker 4 (04:12):
Fight? You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (04:13):
I was trying to go go away for nine weeks,
going the hibernation mode.

Speaker 2 (04:17):
Because he thinks you're crazy.

Speaker 4 (04:19):
By the way, you could tell I don't go fuck
what he thinks.

Speaker 3 (04:22):
You know what I'm saying, I am crazy a little better.

Speaker 5 (04:24):
You gotta be crazy in this game.

Speaker 3 (04:26):
You gotta be Look at the legends, every legend. Look
at Fluent Mayweather, Look at Connor McGregor, look at Michael
Jordan's look at Kobe Bryant like Tyson. Look at Mike Tyson,
look at Muhammad Ali. These guys are crazy. People thought
they were psycho. But you can't be a normal guy
and try to be you can't be normal and then
think you're going to be a legend. Ain't no way, bro,

(04:48):
being like that quiet, you ain't gonna be you ain't.
You gotta be a little crazy, Roberto Durant, You got
to be crazy, bro.

Speaker 4 (04:55):
You know what I'm saying, Whose is Travis? You gotta
be crazy.

Speaker 3 (04:58):
These guys is crazy, you know, so you gotta be
a little crazy to get to that level. I don't
think if you're normal you won't get there. You gotta
be a little bit crazy to get up there. Because
when you're crazy, you want to do. You want to
you know, try new things and in the ring. You
know what I'm saying, if you a certain way, you're
not you're going to be scared to take that, to
take that leap of faith and say, you know what,

(05:18):
let me try this, let me try this. I'm gonna
be in the gym, yo, Mark, I want to go
twenty five rounds and spawn today.

Speaker 4 (05:24):
You know what I'm saying? Like that, Like that's crazy.

Speaker 5 (05:26):
You just told me too before we're going camera, Like, Bro,
I'm about to go train right now.

Speaker 2 (05:29):
Yeah, today got you Today? Got you hyped up?

Speaker 4 (05:31):
Or you just yesterday.

Speaker 3 (05:32):
As soon as I got here, I landed, my flag
got delayed.

Speaker 4 (05:36):
I got you, by the way, what's going on?

Speaker 2 (05:37):
Like, why do you get it together?

Speaker 4 (05:38):
Yeah, tripping. It came from Tampa.

Speaker 3 (05:40):
So when I got here, I landed, like at ten,
I caught my strength conditioning coach. I'm like, yo, I'm here,
like I'm getting to the hotel. I'm dropping my shit off.
I'm grabbing my back and were going straight to the gym.
Mos in the gym to like almost.

Speaker 5 (05:53):
Can tell man, the guns popping out. I didn't know
those was registered.

Speaker 2 (05:56):
Stay to New York, you know what I mean. You
gotta get those things checked out, you know.

Speaker 3 (05:58):
But I came back in the morning eight. I got
up at nine in the morning here with y'all doing
all of this. After I'm done, I'm.

Speaker 4 (06:06):
Going right back to train, just locked in the said bro.

Speaker 3 (06:08):
At the end of the day, man, Like, you know,
all the talk and everything we're doing is you know,
it's cool, but you know, when it's all saiding done
Njully twelve, when me and him is in that ring,
it's only me and him.

Speaker 2 (06:18):
Yeah, I like that. Though.

Speaker 1 (06:19):
I like the talk because I want it to me.
It shows you're confident. And two I kind of talked
to you about this earlier. You put pressure on yourself.
Can't really anybody else say shit to you. You know
what I'm saying, Like, if you put it like I'm this,
this is what I'm gonna go do.

Speaker 2 (06:32):
That pressure has already been put on you by you.

Speaker 1 (06:34):
So whatever they say they say, it don't matter because
you already got put.

Speaker 4 (06:38):
It on me.

Speaker 5 (06:39):
Go ahead say whatever it is.

Speaker 2 (06:40):
There's nobody that says, yeah.

Speaker 3 (06:42):
Exactly is everything that's mental is as long as you
get here. Just controls your body. Your mind controls your body.
Whatever you tell yourself you want to do it, you're
gonna do it.

Speaker 4 (06:52):

Speaker 3 (06:53):
If I want to run through this wall, right No,
I'm serious, Right, I'm serious. If I want to run
through that wall right now, don't. By the way, Mark
always told me, if you want to go through something,
you put your manto you're gonna do it. Like the
like you see like the riots right the right, you
see the rights when they start digging holes.

Speaker 2 (07:11):
Okay, Like I'm from the problem out here in New.

Speaker 3 (07:14):
York right from the projects is.

Speaker 4 (07:16):
I used to have a lot of riots.

Speaker 1 (07:18):
But we shoot them where I come from. We take
the gun out and just line.

Speaker 3 (07:22):
We chased them with fucking with bats and and then
te and off my rat trying to get him out.

Speaker 4 (07:28):
But like when we was younger. But you know, a
rat what it does.

Speaker 3 (07:32):
It keeps scratching and keep scratching until it until it
gets the hole that was inside the house.

Speaker 4 (07:36):
Right, So the same way with us.

Speaker 3 (07:38):
Whatever we put the manto, we're gonna do it.

Speaker 1 (07:42):
So when it comes to this fight, you know, like
I said, I saw this energy between you and and Shias.
Something you pointed out and I thought was interesting. You
were like to me your Canelo, like you're the best
person even if you already went to twelve with Canlo,
You're the best person I've ever faced because you're the
next guy face. And you felt like he didn't have
that same energy for you at all.

Speaker 3 (08:01):
That's how I know I beat him already. I already
beat him, already beat him.

Speaker 1 (08:05):
Mentally, you just need already he's checked like he's trying
to overlook you.

Speaker 2 (08:09):
Already the next thing.

Speaker 3 (08:10):
Right there, I beat him, I start talking, I just
beat you. You don't even know I just beat you, bro,
because I'm looking at you like Canelo, I'm going away
for camp, Nigga, Like I'm not part of my word.
Now we're not going on. I'm not going back on.
I'm going away. Like he's my Canolo, you know what
I'm saying. He's once I get him out the way,
It's like, now, Yo, Turkey, let's sit down. You know

(08:33):
what I'm saying, Like, let's talk.

Speaker 7 (08:34):
Man.

Speaker 4 (08:34):
What you said?

Speaker 1 (08:35):
What do you say to if you said Turkey was
what he said?

Speaker 4 (08:37):
Turkey's is poppy, you know that's his poppy right there.
He gotta checking him.

Speaker 3 (08:40):
Like this, walking like hey, hey, don't talk when I talk.
Don't say nothing. When I tell you the move, you move.
So he's doing that, That's what I'm saying. He don't
want to be in New York, Like he's gonna be
fighting in New York.

Speaker 2 (08:50):
Come on.

Speaker 4 (08:50):
He's just doing this because they put in the pressure.

Speaker 3 (08:52):
I'm like, Yo, you gotta take this fight because if not,
you're not gonna get the Canelo fight, you know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (08:57):
So he's like, fuck, I'm gonna take the fight.

Speaker 1 (08:59):
But but you think about it, like the way you
talk about how Turkey looks at him, that says a
lot for our Turkey looks at you that he wants
Shreds to come over here in your backyard and take
this kind of challenge of this first fight at one
sixty year.

Speaker 2 (09:13):
That's a big deal, man.

Speaker 3 (09:13):
Yeah, maybe maybe Turkey's understanding me. I think Turkey, I
think you unestimated just a little bit. Okay, and it's
maybe you know, it's boxing, So I don't take nothing personal.

Speaker 2 (09:24):
Should light a fire too.

Speaker 3 (09:25):
It likes a fire because then after that we're gonna
sit down with you. We sit down like this, man,
you we have some dinner.

Speaker 2 (09:31):
Just kick me out, Turkey.

Speaker 4 (09:32):
You can see here, and we, you know, talk real money.
They talk real money.

Speaker 2 (09:36):
They you know, I ain't pocket watching you look like
you got it right?

Speaker 3 (09:40):
No, no, no, they could buy this right here, A million
of these, A million of these they could buy a
million times.

Speaker 2 (09:48):
So you got to respect, you know, one hundred percent.

Speaker 4 (09:51):
The money is different, fat you know.

Speaker 1 (09:53):
Now speaking of the money being different, one hundred k
bed huh. I watched to go down the handshake made
it official. Well, I don't know if it's official official,
but we're gonna honor it.

Speaker 2 (10:02):
You think they're gonna honor it?

Speaker 3 (10:03):
Oh yeah, yeah, I already spoke to this guy. Okay,
he said, yeah, so.

Speaker 4 (10:06):
One hundred k on the line, does.

Speaker 2 (10:07):
That make it a little more sweet for you?

Speaker 8 (10:09):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (10:09):
Hell yeah, I guess we're going. You never did no
shit like that.

Speaker 2 (10:14):
I was gonna say.

Speaker 5 (10:15):
You kind of stuck it on him, and it was like,
do we have to look around and say, yeah.

Speaker 3 (10:20):
I do ship like that? Okay, you don't even know
I do. I don't do it, so I don't do
like life. That's why I'm comfortable. He an't tell me
that's better I was doing. That's what I'm not.

Speaker 1 (10:30):
Yeah, you know the type of ship I do. I
lose like five hundred at the casino. That's the ship
I'm on, and I don't go back.

Speaker 2 (10:36):
That's mine.

Speaker 5 (10:36):
Let's go when you're doing one hundred game.

Speaker 4 (10:39):
I know.

Speaker 3 (10:39):
But now I did more than that on myself, like
my whole basically my whole life.

Speaker 4 (10:46):
I better on myself, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (10:47):
But like, but that's that's why you are in the
position you're in, I think, and that's why you're going
to the place you're going. You talked about risk, you
talked about being a little crazy. It's honestly just you
saying yes to every challenging front. Man, I respect the
hell out of it.

Speaker 3 (11:01):
And I want to fight the best. I'm not here
try pigging nobody. I want to fight the best.

Speaker 5 (11:05):
That's that's and.

Speaker 3 (11:07):
I want to make and I want to make the
biggest fights happen. Yes where there's a lot of fans
and you know people can enjoy it.

Speaker 4 (11:15):
That's all the box. And you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (11:17):
People were about they old people were about a lot
of different things. Man, it's about giving the fans a
great fight. Bro, look at me and Canelo. Nobody don't
talk about they talk about. What they talk about is yo,
you you and kind of man, y'all need to do
a rematch?

Speaker 4 (11:29):
Bro, why Bro? In that arena, everybody was on their
their feet.

Speaker 2 (11:35):
When I tell you I was in Vegas at night.

Speaker 3 (11:37):
I remember, you know, everybody in the arena was on
their feet. That's why it went from booze to after
the twelve round, I was leaving. I felt like a
fucking superstar. Respect you earned screaming so much.

Speaker 4 (11:48):
I was walking.

Speaker 3 (11:49):
I was walking through the through the through the MGM
to go to go out to dinner at like a
little din and I was in MGM.

Speaker 4 (11:56):
BRO. I had a mob of Mexicans bro mobling me.

Speaker 6 (11:58):
Bro.

Speaker 3 (11:59):
Picture is telling me I'm a legend, telling thank you,
like the Bro. They don't remember, they're not remembering all
you lost. They remember Yo, you were't kind of thought
a fucking amazing fight, Bro, just like the Godian Ward.

Speaker 4 (12:12):
No, I don't. I never spoke about Yo, who won
that fight.

Speaker 3 (12:14):
I just look at the fight that I was a
fucking wall.

Speaker 4 (12:17):
Those three fights.

Speaker 3 (12:18):
That's what they talk about, don't. They don't talk about
all but but but Ward one. No, they talk about Yo.
They went at it, and that's what boxing is about.

Speaker 2 (12:27):
What's your relationship now?

Speaker 1 (12:29):
Like with Canelo, I'm interested because it felt like there
was a lot of respect between you two after the fight,
and then I saw you kind of gone off on
him on Twitter. What what's it like right now? How
do you look at him?

Speaker 2 (12:41):
It's back up?

Speaker 4 (12:41):
No respect?

Speaker 3 (12:42):
Why because I gave you too much? I gave you
so much respect after the fight. You know what I'm saying.
I tell you changed my life. Thank you, yeah, you know,
thank you for the opportunity like I And then you
went on on and you did an interview and you
you you set.

Speaker 4 (12:57):
I ran you crazy.

Speaker 3 (12:58):
I'm trying to survive. And that's so funny that he's
saying that the whole fight week. And then he fights again.
He fights a guy that's really trying to survive, and
it's like then you see him complaining like to score, like, yo, bro,
come on man, fight man. So it's like, who was
really trying to survive?

Speaker 4 (13:14):

Speaker 3 (13:15):
And you know me, I'm a guy that you try
to trow me. You try to, you know, make fun
of me. I'm gonna trow you right back.

Speaker 2 (13:20):
So that one's it's back up now.

Speaker 3 (13:23):
Hell yeah, and now it's personal with him. Me and
him is personal. But I gotta get I gotta get
my ship back.

Speaker 2 (13:29):
Of course, now when it comes to fighting in general,
I've always had this question ready for you because I
feel like you're a guy that gets down outside of
the ring too. You've been in a street.

Speaker 4 (13:38):
Fights man when I was younger.

Speaker 1 (13:39):
Yeah, any any any like crazy one that you care
to not maybe you know what I'm saying, trying.

Speaker 3 (13:45):
To no, not not no, not crazy, but because I'm
not gonna lie, man, Like a lot of people love me,
you know, and I knew how to fight.

Speaker 4 (13:52):
My mom was boxing.

Speaker 3 (13:52):
I was six years old, so you know, when I
was younger, my dad went away.

Speaker 4 (13:56):
From prison, you know.

Speaker 3 (13:57):
On the project and stuff, I had a I was
imagine me light skinned like you, no facial hair, pretty boy.

Speaker 9 (14:05):
You know.

Speaker 3 (14:05):
These guys was bad little kids, you know what I'm saying.
They was breaking car windows, robbing cars, you know what
I'm saying, working with bats and stuff, you know, and
it was getting It used to get crazy, you know.

Speaker 4 (14:17):
And I used to want to be outside. I'm a kid.
I want to hang out. And I used to go.

Speaker 3 (14:21):
Outside and I had to prove myself, you know what
I'm saying. I had to get my respects. So I
used to have to beat people up, you know what
I'm saying, to be like yo. And I was like yo,
let's get it.

Speaker 4 (14:28):
Boom boom like that.

Speaker 3 (14:32):
And then after that, just in my project was used
to be like yo. I used to call me your
egg yog, you know.

Speaker 4 (14:38):
What I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (14:38):
Out of school. Coming out of school was like a
fight boom. And then I got my respect say.

Speaker 2 (14:43):
It got to a point where everybody learned not to
mess with you.

Speaker 3 (14:45):
Yeah, and then also too, you know, me going to
the gym, so I stood of.

Speaker 4 (14:48):
I stood of.

Speaker 3 (14:49):
It happened a lot when when my father went to prison,
because like I used to skip school. I used to
try to skip school and also skip the gym.

Speaker 4 (14:57):
You know what I'm saying. They're like, you know, be.

Speaker 3 (14:59):
Outside, you know, so everybody else is, and you know
that's what like drew me into like one of to
be in the streets and fight, you.

Speaker 4 (15:08):
Know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (15:08):
And one time my dad like my sister like was
fighting with this this young kid like grabbing my sister
by the hair, and like my dad was like yo.
My dad told me like, yo, look we did to
your sister. I look went up to him, boom, knocked
him out.

Speaker 4 (15:23):
One shot knocked them out. Boom. Yeah, he like grabbed
my sister by the hair. That was playing again. It
was over. You know.

Speaker 3 (15:29):
My my my step brother was way older than he
was in the school together. I used to be like
they used to be like yo. Like one time it
was in like I was in the class, but my
step brother was he was older than me. It was
my ex step brother was older than me, and I
was like I used to protect him. So like they
came to my class. There Yo, these two kids are
being was being the ship out of Yo Yo. I

(15:50):
was with there was like it was in the bathroom, actually, teacher,
I go to the bathroom there you go.

Speaker 4 (15:55):
You know, yeah, I go to the bathroom.

Speaker 3 (15:57):
They still there, demolished them in the back of got
being both of them got suspended trying to expel me
out the school.

Speaker 2 (16:05):
You know, so you've been You've been in them streets. Listen.
I grew up very sheltered. Thank you to my mom
and dad.

Speaker 1 (16:13):
Shelter homes, sheltered, country boys, shelter.

Speaker 4 (16:16):
I seen like six years old, Broe shoot.

Speaker 5 (16:18):
Out, shelter homes different. I was like, well, sorry, completely
different my shelter, your sheltered.

Speaker 2 (16:23):
Different.

Speaker 4 (16:24):
You know.

Speaker 3 (16:24):
It's that brought wake up and you had you had
fucking car windows and the Bronx hit car windows, splashing
bops and I get up. It is in the Sheldon.
I was in the hunts Point.

Speaker 4 (16:35):
Get up.

Speaker 3 (16:35):
I was climb on top of the what a sinker
is that? It was a window and I was just
I was just standing at the whole shoot out. It
was just shooting back and forth. My mom grabbed me, crying,
get get on you know, it was like level, it
was almost on the floor, you know what I'm saying, Yeah,
on the street floor.

Speaker 1 (16:49):
By the way, the way you're talking about this is
like it's just nothing, which is crazy to me because
I would be petrified for the rest of my life.

Speaker 4 (16:57):
It's shape you.

Speaker 2 (16:59):
This is what shaped You made me humble too.

Speaker 3 (17:01):
It made me humble because it made me you know, respect,
you know a lot of things because you know that
life is not cool.

Speaker 4 (17:08):
You know, I don't condone it.

Speaker 3 (17:09):
So me seeing that, like and then you know, my
dad going to prison and leaving and coming back and
leaving again, going to prison, I just I just had
a different type of respect, you know what I'm saying
for for people that you know that's in their life.
And then I try to like, you know, talk to
these young guys now you know what I'm saying and
telling them to your listen, bro, you can't be doing that,
you know what I'm saying. You gotta do this the
right way, you know. And a lot of people like

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drawn to me because they see me. Know I'm a
positive guy. You know, I'm not a sucker. But I'm
also because for you to do good in life, you
don't got to be a sucker.

Speaker 4 (17:40):
You know what I'm saying. A lot I feel like.

Speaker 3 (17:41):
A lot of people feel like that, like for you
to be a good person and do good in life,
whether you got a career or whether you're working or off,
they feel like it's a sucker.

Speaker 4 (17:48):
Now, that's not a as a realm man, you know
what I'm saying. That's a real man.

Speaker 3 (17:52):
Is a guy to take care his family, take care
his moms, take his father, you know what I'm saying,
take his his kids.

Speaker 4 (17:57):
You know, that's a real man.

Speaker 2 (17:58):
Love that.

Speaker 3 (17:58):
You know, being in the street and acting like a
bad boy, now it's not cool.

Speaker 4 (18:02):
You know.

Speaker 1 (18:03):
Well, now you're doing this to take care of your family.
Give me one last down the lens. Prediction July twelfth,
You step in that ring across from you is I'm
just Shiraz.

Speaker 2 (18:14):
The bell rings. What happens? Tell the people? So here
he is man ergar Verlanga.

Speaker 5 (18:25):
Once again, he's won half of your main event.

Speaker 1 (18:27):
Stay tuned July twelfth from the Louis Armstrong Stadium. Thanks
to the ring, it's the way concept.

Speaker 5 (18:32):
What happens then? I don't have those answers.

Speaker 1 (18:34):
But I guess we'll find out folks, welcome back to
the Way concept presented by the Ring and today I
am sitting with the WBC Lightweight World Champion. He is
set to defend his belts in Louis Armstrong Stadium on
July twelfth and one of two big main events against
William Zapeta.

Speaker 2 (18:53):
It is none other than Shakur Stevenson Cha Court. What's
up baby? How you doing many?

Speaker 6 (19:00):
I'm good, just got out the dim working.

Speaker 5 (19:02):
I heard.

Speaker 2 (19:02):
I heard today was another day of training.

Speaker 4 (19:04):
How is I mean?

Speaker 1 (19:05):
Everybody asked this question. It's the typical you know, media
member to fighter a question. But house training camp going.

Speaker 6 (19:11):
It's been good.

Speaker 4 (19:12):
You know.

Speaker 6 (19:13):
I think it's the best camp that I'd have had.
I think we're ready. We ready.

Speaker 1 (19:18):
So it feels like it feels like you've got a
different mindset for this fight and you know, definitely a
chip on your shoulder in this one. And you've almost
answered every question that I've heard you talk about this
fight with. You know, not that you have anything to prove,
but something you want to prove in this one. What
what does this fight mean for your career, for your
legacy and for potentially being a breakout superstar here?

Speaker 6 (19:41):
I think this fight mean everything. I think that Lapida
is a hell of a fighter. He's going to bring
the best tide of me. So you up the competition
with somebody like me, and I'm going up the level also,
So I think the fans that everybody gonna see it
the greatest version of me. I can't wait to show it.

Speaker 1 (20:01):
Yeah, you know, everybody's talked about it's a payda and
you know his volume punching is for pressure, and they
they've spoken about it almost like it's it's, you know,
potentially going to be more of a problem for you.
I look at it as more of an opportunity for you.
There's more of a reason for you to to to
be able to showcase your skills.

Speaker 4 (20:18):
Go ahead, I think so too.

Speaker 6 (20:20):
I think that a lot of people don't think I'm
crazy when I say this, But you know a guy
likes yes, twenty seven knockouts, right, I have eleven knockouts.

Speaker 5 (20:31):
Right, yep, twenty three and oh, eleven knockouts.

Speaker 6 (20:34):
I'll punch harder than him. I'll punch harder than him,
And I think that on fight night, that's what was
going to be the biggest difference between like that.

Speaker 1 (20:43):
Now when it comes to this fight. You know, there's
been a lot of talk recently about big stars in
boxing and how you perform on the biggest stages. We've
seen some fighters recently not perform right in front of
the biggest eyes. This is I wouldn't say, yeah, you
know what it is. It's in your backyard, it's right there. Obviously,
you got a lot of people coming. Is there any

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more pressure on you in this fight or do you
just again just feel like it's more of an opportunity
to let your stars shine.

Speaker 6 (21:10):
Pressure Pressure doesn't exist. Pressure only exists if you're making.
Pressure comes from the mental and the image and of
what you see. So if you believe that there's pressure
and all of that kind of stuff, then you're gonna
feel it and you're gonna act like it. But me,
I don't feel no pressure. I'm fully prepared, I trusted

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my training. I know that won't fight. I'm the better
fighter and it will show.

Speaker 1 (21:40):
You're talking a lot about the mental side of this
speak more to that. It feels like, obviously you're locked
in for every fight, but I don't know. This one
just feels like to me, it's the first time we're
speaking one on one. But in all your interviews, you
just feel locked into a different level this time around.

Speaker 6 (21:54):
Yeah, it's a chip on my shoulder. You know a
lot of people are saying that I'm not the god,
not as good as everybody say I'm over already. I
heard a whole bunch of stuff, and now everybody got
to stand on what they said. They got to see
it comes to Bot twelve that I am the best
fighter in the sport of boxing, and I will show it.

Speaker 1 (22:13):
I don't know, I don't know how anybody could call
you overrated. We're talking about a three weeight World Chip
Olympia and that's insane. But you know, with that, you know,
and I guess in your mind something to prove. Chip
on your shoulder. You are sharing this card with it
with a ton of big name fighters all looking at to,
you know, put their name out there and get their
opportunity to step up.

Speaker 5 (22:34):
What's what's what about?

Speaker 1 (22:36):
Your performance is going to stand out from everybody else
on fight night.

Speaker 6 (22:40):
I think that I'm gonna show. I think I'm the
guy that everybody want to see. I think that the
fans been waiting for me to get into a fight
with somebody that's on a high skill level where somebody
that's a high level opponent.

Speaker 1 (22:51):
So that's someone that someone that brings it to you
as well, right, someone that brings it to you because
he's not scared.

Speaker 6 (22:58):
He's gonna come in there and give it his all,
and that's just gonna create more opportunities for Bill to ask.

Speaker 1 (23:04):
So, so what we're saying straight up, we're just gonna
says a knockout.

Speaker 6 (23:10):
It can be, It can be. That's the thing that
nobody will bet that. Nobody will bet no money on that. Nobody.

Speaker 5 (23:15):
Tell me, you're telling me now to bet my money
on it? Is that what you're saying.

Speaker 6 (23:20):
But I am telling you, don't be surprised.

Speaker 2 (23:24):
Okay, I like it and I like it.

Speaker 1 (23:27):
There's been a lot of talk recently, and I wanted
your thoughts on this mainly because it's just it's a
big point of contention right now in boxing.

Speaker 5 (23:35):
There's no running rule. Have you seen some of the
stuff going around about this?

Speaker 6 (23:37):
Yeah, I've seen some of it. Is disappointed to see.

Speaker 2 (23:41):
Tell me, tell me why I talk to me.

Speaker 6 (23:43):
I mean, I just know guys like Muhammad al lead
that you know that they live through their entire careers
and they believe they float like a butterfly and sting
like a beat.

Speaker 4 (23:55):
Right.

Speaker 6 (23:56):
I know that they're looking down on stuff like that
and they're probably very disappointment or who's coming up with
that kind of stuff. But movement is a part of boxing.
You go back, like through the history books on the
guys that use movement when they comes down to boxing.
Floyd sometimes me, so, I think it's just disappointing to see.

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I can't. I can't. I can't commend that.

Speaker 1 (24:22):
I understand and I think too there's a difference between
the way and and you know, everybody's out talking about
who they want to point the finger at is who's
the reason for stuff like that. I don't see the
way you fight as being that kind of style at all.
I think I see you as moving, but I see
setting traps. I see you being able to create offense,
off defense and vice versa. That is the sport, right,
that's the sweet science.

Speaker 6 (24:45):
Don't. I don't think I'm move them.

Speaker 1 (24:47):
You can move, I can move exactly. I don't think
you're a consistent just circle or anything like that. But
I think you have the ability to set things up
and then drop the hammer. I think that you can
stand in front of I mean, I just watch you
stand right in front of Josh badly and beat him up,
you know, like it's not I don't think that anybody
is looking at you.

Speaker 2 (25:06):
When they when they talk about that.

Speaker 1 (25:07):
I just always asked, because I've asked a couple of
guys so far, what they thought about it. People have
different opinions on it, but it'll be interesting to see
how that whole thing goes down. But speaking of this
July twelfth card, you're one half of.

Speaker 2 (25:21):
The of the main event.

Speaker 1 (25:23):
What do you see on the other side from Williams
of Paida? Is there anything Obviously you don't want to
give away game plan stuff on your side, but what
do you see out of him when you see him
at the press conference, when you see him at the
face off?

Speaker 2 (25:34):
Is there anything you can read off of him? So far?

Speaker 6 (25:38):
He's exactly what I think he is. He's coming in shape,
he's coming to give it his all, and you know
that he's going to bring everything he got and he's
been kind of waiting for this opportunity for his entire lifetime.
But sometimes when you kind of saying you ready to
jump in, you gonna run into something that you don't like,

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and I think that's what sometimes. I don't think he's
very prepared for what's gonna come back that I'm gonna
just move around the ring, and you know, like the
fans kind of hype it up and say that I'm
gonna run, so they kind of think that. But I'm
just as much as a fighter as he is.

Speaker 2 (26:21):
I love it, man.

Speaker 1 (26:21):
So you think he thinks you're gonna be super defensive,
not really engage with him, try to hit and move,
and you're you're potentially depending on Again, it's a fight.
You never know what happens, but you're prepared for whatever.

Speaker 2 (26:33):
Essentially, you can't.

Speaker 6 (26:34):
Fight a god like that and moving all around the
ring the entire time because if you will end up losing.
So I know that. So he know that too.

Speaker 2 (26:44):
When you see.

Speaker 1 (26:47):
Your fight being one of the main events, there's another
one as well. Right, Uh, we have Hamsa Hias, Egar Berlanga.
I know you and Edgar are good buddies. Obviously, both
of you want to represent New York. What does that
fight do you think look like?

Speaker 6 (27:04):
I think Edgar probably will knock him up.

Speaker 5 (27:06):
Yeah, I think Amsa is coming up to one sixty eight.

Speaker 6 (27:10):
Yeah, I think Edgar got the punching follow So that's
why I think.

Speaker 2 (27:14):
Edgar by knockout.

Speaker 5 (27:15):
What do you think about the ring? Eighteen by eighteen
is what I heard?

Speaker 1 (27:19):
And then I've also just I just by the way,
I just saw this as happened like twenty minutes ago.
On Twitter, Edgar adding turkey alla shake and saying, maybe
it's not eighteen by eighteen.

Speaker 5 (27:28):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (27:29):
We'll just operate on it being an eighteen eighty because
that's what everybody's been saying.

Speaker 2 (27:33):
What do you think about that?

Speaker 6 (27:33):
I don't think that shed When I came up, I
kind of came up and like little ass small ring,
Well he barely can't even move, so you gotta learn
how to fight, right then, circle, So no, I don't
think that she met us.

Speaker 1 (27:50):
Well, I do want to ask you one more thing,
and this is on a question on one of the
guys that also works at the ring.

Speaker 5 (27:57):
Why do you have to do my man cop like
that bro?

Speaker 6 (28:00):
Because he be hated? Yeah, big ass hater. You gotta
start being the hated. You know, it's cool to like
be your job and right, no, like I don't gonna
lisue with that, but when you kind of like purposely
go out there and try to attack somebody and assassinate
people character. But when you see friendly, like oh the

(28:20):
cord is there, and I'm just not that kind of guy.
I can't fake it. I can't be nobody that's like
fake and just be cool with that ship, like, don't
fuck with me?

Speaker 2 (28:31):
And what is it?

Speaker 1 (28:32):
Just the way he's covered your career, You're just not
you're not a big fan of it's.

Speaker 6 (28:36):
The way that you do things. Like what I was watching.
I watched the fans. I want to say. They posted something.
You give a little example. They posted something and they
said that Edgar was the main thing. The fans kind
of criticize them for doing that.

Speaker 1 (28:54):
Oh you're right, I remember this, yeah, yeah, yeah, I
remember this because you're you're a w I mean your
WBC Wight Champion.

Speaker 5 (29:00):
Of the World.

Speaker 2 (29:01):
How does it really work?

Speaker 5 (29:02):
I got you?

Speaker 2 (29:02):
Yeah yeah yeah.

Speaker 6 (29:03):
And when Cop kind of went up there, he kind
of like defended it. But as he's defending that, he's
talking about me. Oh sa Court got bold and blah blah.
And then then it's like when I see you and
I get on a plane next to you. The whole
time you up there like like a fan.

Speaker 5 (29:21):
Wait, you were on the plane with him.

Speaker 6 (29:22):
I got my last fight when I fell to Saruti.
He was right next to me on the plane. He
was literally like both of us right next to each
other the whole time, like to court this and he's
act like a pin and shit. So it's like, which
one you want to be?

Speaker 1 (29:39):
Like?

Speaker 6 (29:39):
I can't think I'm not no guy that's gonna play
fake with nobody, right.

Speaker 1 (29:43):
No, I did not know that far. All right, Well, listen, uh,
I know you've you've had a long day of training.
Let's let's do this really quick. Let's let's give again
without giving game plan away.

Speaker 2 (29:53):
You walk into Louis.

Speaker 1 (29:54):
Armstrong By the way, before we get there, Louis Armstrong Stadium,
I don't think I've ever seen a boxing match inside
of tennisde I know that's not gonna affect you, but
how cool is that for you to be able to
do kind of one of the first things, especially in
New York.

Speaker 6 (30:06):
I think that's amazing. I think making history being the
first person to fight there. And now I gotta do
my job, and I got to put the performance on there.
Make sure that I leave my staying, I leave my
name on top of that stadium. Of course, Stevenston was
the first person to fight at that stadium, and the
performance that he had was amazing. That's what I want

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to hear for the next upcoming years.

Speaker 5 (30:30):
I like that.

Speaker 4 (30:31):
I like that. Now.

Speaker 1 (30:33):
I know you get this question a lot, and I'm
sure you're tired of answering it, but you don't want
to overlook William.

Speaker 2 (30:38):
I get that.

Speaker 1 (30:39):
But with all the things that are going on right now,
at one thirty five, potentially at one forty, who knows,
But there's a lot of big names out there. Who
doescha course, Stevenson, over the next year, year and a half,
look at down down the line. If there is a
way to kind of envision that, who do you see
stepping in the ring with you?

Speaker 6 (30:55):
I ain't even gonna say it because I feel like,
you know, everybody know what. I'm gonna say that.

Speaker 5 (31:01):
One hundred times I wanted to ask, but yeah.

Speaker 6 (31:05):
The biggest fighting in the sport of boxing.

Speaker 2 (31:07):
So now do you think do you think it happens?

Speaker 6 (31:10):
Depends on that person. That guy, he's the guy who
makes it happen.

Speaker 1 (31:15):
Why don't Why don't I know you said it a
bunch of times, Why don't you like saying his name.

Speaker 6 (31:18):
Because he acts like a girl like if you say
his name, he's like he thinks somebody is chasing that
or so all that girl should I'll.

Speaker 2 (31:26):
Try not to get into We'll leave it there, but
tell me this.

Speaker 1 (31:30):
We get to July twelfth, all the media obligations are done.
You don't have to look at guys like me anymore
and answer our dumb questions. You get to go out
there and do what you do. You step in the
ring and you look across from Williams of Paida, the
bell rings.

Speaker 2 (31:42):
What happens.

Speaker 6 (31:44):
I'll put out my belt and I'll beat the ship
out of them. Just keep beating them orrow night until
the referee jumps in or somebody jumps into saving all.

Speaker 2 (31:54):
Right, I volunteer his tribute. I'll jump in and save.

Speaker 1 (31:57):
Appreciate you sucor it. Thanks man, I'll off I week.
Have a good rest of your camp. I know you're
right here at the end of it. Obviously, big prayers
to you and all the fighters. I'm big on that.

Speaker 5 (32:09):
So hope you guys are safe and I'll see you
on fight week.

Speaker 1 (32:12):
Thanks for doing this, man, all right, So we are
back and folks, today I have some breaking news that
I never thought I would be announcing on this channel
and even making a video about.

Speaker 5 (32:25):
But here we are.

Speaker 1 (32:25):
I can't even begin to tell you how random this is.
And it just popped up on my Twitter. So I'm
just gonna go ahead and show you guys. As of
about thirty minutes ago, there is a report out from
the Department of Homeland Security that on July second, Ice
arrested Mexican boxer and criminal illegal alien Julio Caesar Chavez Junior.
He is now being processed for expedite removal from the

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United States. This Sinaloa cartel affiliate has an active arrest
warrant in Mexico for his involvement in organized crime and
trafficking firearms, ammunitions and explode.

Speaker 5 (33:00):
What the hell is going on?

Speaker 4 (33:02):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (33:02):
We're gonna get into it the breakdown. Let's go so,
like you guys know, Julio sayser. Chavez Junior just had
a boxing match this Saturday against Jake Paul in the
middle of Orange County, Anaheim, California, at the Honda Center.

Speaker 5 (33:16):
He lost that fight.

Speaker 1 (33:17):
He was disappointingly average in that fight. He once again
showed that in big fights. He tends to just kind
of hang out and not really do much. I mean again,
it was a normal Julio Saser Chavez Junior performance and
Jake wins. Now, Jake's ranked in the top fifteen at cruiserweight,
which I think is absolutely ridiculous. Jake is not a
top fifteen cruiserweight by any metric of actual ranking.

Speaker 5 (33:39):
That's not the.

Speaker 1 (33:40):
Point of the video today. The point of the video
is to figure out how in the world Julioseser Chavez
Junior has been linked with the Sineloa cartel and is
now being expedited from removal from the United States.

Speaker 5 (33:52):
This is insane.

Speaker 1 (33:53):
Okay, let's take a look at the actual department. I
thought this was fake. I'm not gonna lie to you guys.
I thought this was like a fake because you never
know what's real and what isn't. Here is the actual
Department of Homeland Securities Twitter, and there he is, and
that mugshot is insane. So we go to the website
and once again we have this this headline DHS announces

(34:15):
ice arrest of Mexican boxer Cineloa cartel affiliate. And the
reason I keep saying Sineloa cartel. That's a pretty big deal.
You don't want to know why, because it's El Choppo's cartel.
Son probably the most dangerous in the history of Mexico. Again,
this man just had a boxing match on Saturday. So
this is, you know, obviously crazy. We all know that
Chavez Junior has had his history with running in with

(34:37):
the law and drugs and other things that we're going
to get into. But I did not expect this at all.
Then again, I didn't really know how deep this goes.

Speaker 5 (34:46):
So this is from Washington.

Speaker 1 (34:48):
The Department of Homeland Security announced Immigration and Customs Enforcement
detained prominent Mexican boxer and criminal illegal alien Julio Caesar
Chavez Junior and is processing him for EXBEDI to remove.

Speaker 5 (35:00):
From the United States.

Speaker 1 (35:01):
Chavez is a Mexican citizen who has an active arrest
warrant in Mexico for his involvement in organized crime and
trafficking firearms.

Speaker 5 (35:10):
Ammunition, and explosives. That is crazy.

Speaker 1 (35:14):
We're talking about the son of the greatest Mexican boxer
of all time, Juliosaser Chavez Senior, being involved in organized
trafficking of ammunition, firearms and explosives. What in a country
where the Chavez name is already pretty much untouchable from
even the cards. Like anybody like Chavez is such a legend,

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no one gets around him. Why would you involve yourself
with something like this. I don't know, but hold on
to that organized crime because well, a matter of fact,
we'll just look at it now. I didn't realize because
I did a seventeen hour live stream the other day,
I didn't realize that I actually knew this information already.
This is me and my girlfriend Chloe watching the walkout

(35:59):
of Chavez Junior on Saturday and hearing what I think
he was Todd Grisham and that the Zone Announced team
said about him as he's walking out.

Speaker 5 (36:08):
Listen, damp, Yeah, Taja, Jesus, I just ran down Hurdy laundry.

Speaker 2 (36:17):
Why don't you big time?

Speaker 5 (36:20):
That man said he last year got arrested on a
weapons charge. I didn't even know that.

Speaker 1 (36:24):
So again, I knew that Chavez was having issues with
the law in the past, and you know, had his
drug issues. I didn't know he just got arrested on
a weapons charge the year before, And I definitely didn't
know that he was in some way linked to the
Sineloa cartel. But the zone announced it on the broadcast.
I don't know if that's something like it indvertently triggered

(36:44):
the Department of Homeland Security to be like, uh, oh,
he's in the country, we need to go get him,
or just to fight itself. Being in America was like
part of that. But I'm pretty sure Chavez was already
living in America. I don't know, but this is just
insane to think that this boxing match potentially was a
massive part of the reason he is now been you know,
detained and is going to be removed from the United
States on you know, active weapons charges.

Speaker 5 (37:07):
So we keep reading.

Speaker 1 (37:07):
In August twenty twenty three, he entered the country legally
with a B two tourist visa that was valid until
February twenty twenty four. Chavez is also believed to be
an affiliate of the Sineloa Cartel, a designated foreign terrorist organization.
ICE arrested Chavez in Studio City, California, on July second. So, yeah, Chavez,
I guess is living in La so they arrest him,

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and it says on April second, twenty twenty four, Chavez
filed application for lawful permanent resident status. Chavez application was
based on his marriage to a US citizen who is
connected to the Sineloa cartel through a prior relationship with
the now deceased son of the infamous cartel leader, Joaquin
El Chapo Guzman. Chavez Junior is married to the former

(37:53):
wife of El Chapo's son.

Speaker 5 (37:55):
Oh no, bro, oh god, dude. Again.

Speaker 1 (37:59):
I just keep thinking and maybe they made a mistake.
Maybe Chavez like is being mistaken for somebody else, or
it's not that. I don't know how serious this is.
But he has a weapons charge and he's married. Not
to say this is connected, but the lady is a
US citizen, so she's also the former wife of the
son of the most famous cartel leader ever potentially in

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the world. I did not know any of this leading
into this right now, this moment. This is crazy. On
December seventeenth, a US Citizenship and Immigration Services made a
referral to ICE that Chavez is an egregious public safety threat. However,
in a DHS law enforcement system under Biden administration indicated
Chavez was not an immigration enforcement priority. Then, on January fourth,

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twenty twenty five, the Biden administration allowed Chavez to re
enter the country and parolled him into the country at
the San East Throw Port of Jury following multiple fraudulent
statements on his application to become a lawful permanent resident.
He was determined to be in the country illegal and
removable on June twenty seventh, twenty twenty five. This is

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a day before his fight. So they were tracking Chavez Junior.
I guess after multiple fraudulent statements on an application for
permanent lawful residence ship and then the day before he's
going to fight Jake Paul, I guess they determined he's
here illegally. Imagine if they found him that day or
the day he was gonna fight. How insane this would

(39:26):
have been. Like he's wrapping up, getting ready and here
comes Ice Ice Ice baby freaking walks in and snatches
Julio Seser Chavez Junior and dips.

Speaker 5 (39:35):
That would have been insane.

Speaker 1 (39:36):
Now again, they get to him on July second, which
was yesterday at the time of recording this. So he's
now been removed. But this is all I mean, it
happened super quick. This Sineloa cartel affiliate with an active
arrest warrant for trafficking guns, ammunition and explosives was arrested
by ice.

Speaker 5 (39:51):
Again.

Speaker 1 (39:51):
I need to know where this charges because this is insane.
How is he he's trafficking in the country illegal guns,
ammunition and explosives. Does that mean like he brought them
across the border, or he has illegal weaponry that they
assume is not made in the United States or they
found out is not made here.

Speaker 5 (40:10):
Like what how did he get charged with that? It
is shocking.

Speaker 1 (40:13):
The previous administration flagged this criminal alien as a public
safety threat, but chose not to prioritize his removal and
let him leave and come back into the country. Okay,
so they're saying that the Biden administration said he was
a public safety threat then allowed him to leave and
come back while having that information or having that you know,

(40:35):
categorization about him public safety threat.

Speaker 5 (40:38):
That's crazy.

Speaker 1 (40:38):
Under President Trump, no one is above the law, including
world famous athletes. Our message to any cartel affiliates in
the USA is clear, we will find you and you
will face consequences. The days of unchecked cartel violence are over. Yeah,
I mean, I wonder how much of this too, is
like a massive name being attached.

Speaker 5 (40:54):
In some way to the cartel.

Speaker 1 (40:57):
Is this like more of the DHS sending a message
because wili Osaeser Chovas Junior is the son of a
world famous boxer.

Speaker 5 (41:03):
He did just.

Speaker 1 (41:04):
Fight in front of how many thousands of people watching
in the Honda Center in California, and you know, probably
one hundred thousands millions worldwide who knows. But still he
can be caught, which I guess is again more of
a message to say, hey, you may not be this
world famous athlete, but if you have any affiliations to
any cartel, we're gonna catch you. Okay, So here's the
rap sheet they say below. January twenty second, twenty twelve,

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California Highway Patrol arrested Jabz and charged him with a
duy alcoholic drugs and driving.

Speaker 5 (41:31):
Without a license.

Speaker 1 (41:32):
He served thirteen days in jail thirty six months probation.
On January fourteen, twenty twenty three, district Judge issued an
arrest warrant for Chavez for the offensive organized crime for
the purpose of committing crimes of weapons, trafficking and manufacturing
crimes in the modality of those who participate in clandestilly
bringing weapons, ammunition cartridges explosives into the country and those

(41:58):
who manufacture weapons ammunition cartridges and explosive without the corresponding permit.
So if this is to believe Chavez was sneaking weapons
over the border, this is what I'm I'm trying to
gather my brain around. They're saying that he was participating
and bringing weapons, ammunition, cartridges, and explosives into the country,
or manufacturing weapons, ammunitioning cartridges and explosives without corresponding permits.

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So either he was bringing them in or manufacturing them here,
or maybe both, or participating in such with the purpose
of this is nut. Chavez Junior is a weapons runner
for the cartel.

Speaker 5 (42:32):
This is what I'm reading. I don't know if that's true.

Speaker 1 (42:34):
I don't know what the extent of it is, but
I am reading that he is a weapons runner for
the Sineloa cartel. I'm not laughing at him. I'm laughing
at the unbelievability of what I'm reading, not because it's
you know, it's it's so far fetched, but just because
I'm learning it all at once.

Speaker 6 (42:48):
Here.

Speaker 1 (42:48):
On January seventh, twenty twenty fourth, the Los Angeles Police
Department arrested Chavez and charged him with a legal possession
of any assault weapon in manufacture or import short barreled rife.
The court convicted Chavez of these charges. So what he
had a sowd off shotgun? All right, folks, Well more
breaking news on this story. I kind of thought I'd
covered everything, but we now have footage of Julio Caesar

(43:10):
Chavez Junior being arrested or detained or whatever the verbiage
is by Ice. It just hit the web. So let's
take a look at this.

Speaker 2 (43:26):
Again. This is in uh.

Speaker 5 (43:28):
Studio City, Los Angeles, California.

Speaker 4 (43:31):
Oh my god, he.

Speaker 1 (43:32):
Is an m v P, had a Oh no, most
valuable Jeez, you.

Speaker 4 (43:39):
Do I'm searching.

Speaker 7 (43:40):
I don't think I was if you wanted to.

Speaker 8 (43:49):
Hees pockets in the front of the jacket.

Speaker 1 (43:55):
Obviously they're searching him, and remember they would you know
they got they have to search him if they're arresting
him too, right, But you know his previous charges have
been weapons chargers, so you just want to be careful, obviously,
But again, this whole thing is insane. Man, just days
ago fighting in the main event in the Honda Center,

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now being arrested by agents of ICE and soon to
be deported back to Mexico facing weapons charges from Mexico,
having a gun charge here in the United States possessing
an illegal firearm, a ghost gun.

Speaker 5 (44:38):
I guess they're calling it.

Speaker 1 (44:40):
All of this happening again as I'm speaking to you guys,
So the news keeps poorn in. But had to interject
and show you guys, we do now have the video
of Julio Caesar Chavez Junior being arrested by ice. This
is real, this is happening, and it's absolutely insane. Now
let's get back into the video for more detail on
what's going on. All right, So this was a report

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on January ninth, twenty twenty four. I've seen all the
reports today happening, but this one was from way back
in twenty twenty four. Chivez Junior arrested for ghost gun
in La illegal weapons possession. Chivez Junior was arrested for
illegal possession of assault rifle this weekend in Los Angeles
after cops were called to the scene by a concerned
fan who believed the boxer may be a danger to

(45:24):
himself or others.

Speaker 5 (45:25):
Okay, He was taken into custody.

Speaker 1 (45:26):
By LAPD around one point thirty after Chivez Junior permitted
responding officers to enter his home, where they located the
illegal rifle. Law enforcement sources told us the weapon was
an untraceable ghost gun. Chavez was ultimately transported to the
Valley Jail in Van Ice. All Right, so let's again,
I I'm not familiar ghost gun. So this is what
a ghost gun is. Ghost guns are unserealized, therefore untraceable

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firearms that are put together by components purchased either as
a kit or separate pieces. These firearms fully functioning guns
that are as lethal as fully finished serialized firearms. These
parts and hits had long been intentionally marked as unregulated
and untraceable to appeal to.

Speaker 2 (46:04):
Those who seek to use them in crime.

Speaker 1 (46:06):
So essentially, Chavez Junior was arrested in January twenty twenty
four with a ghost gun, an unseerialized gun that was
apparently a short barrel rifle. You have to think, potentially,
I don't know, we talk in ar fifteens here we
talk in something even more lethal, like a fully automatic
who knows. But then before that you have January fourteen,

(46:28):
twenty twenty three, a district judge issued issued an arrest
warrant for Chavez for the offense of organized crime for
the purpose of committing crimes of weapons trafficking and manufacturing
crimes and the modality of those who participate bringing weapons, ammunition, cartridges,
and explosives into the country. So a year prior they
issued an arrest warrant for him, I guess, on suspicion
of trafficking firearms, and then they find one of them

(46:49):
a year later in his possession.

Speaker 5 (46:51):
This is nuts.

Speaker 1 (46:52):
I mean, the news is breaking as I'm recording, so
I don't know how much more I'm gonna.

Speaker 5 (46:56):
Get details on.

Speaker 1 (46:57):
This is a rough weekend for Julio Caeser Chavez, and
then we have the Ring magazine reporting right here. Listen,
this is not just you know, Jake Paul fighting another boxer.
He fought an organized crime member, apparently allegedly. I don't
know again how close the affiliation is from Chavez Junior
to the actual Sineloa cartel, which, again, if you don't know,
one of the most famous, if not the most famous

(47:19):
cartel in the history of Mexico. It's like overnight, we
just got a backstory of Chavez Junior. I had no
idea about how long has Chaves been again allegedly a
weapons run for a foreign terrorist organization, and what all
does this entail how deep does this.

Speaker 5 (47:33):
Story actually go?

Speaker 1 (47:34):
Because even in these this this this article kind of
lists out everything that he's been you know, either charged
for or arrest, warrant's been made for or detained for whatever.
This can't tell the whole story because this has been
going on apparently for the last two years, close to three.
Now this I feel like this is just scratching the surface.
There's got to be more here. But regardless, it seems

(47:54):
like Chiavez Junior is going to be removed from the
country and any chance of him becomeing a lawful permanent
resident probably has gone out the window. Any chance of
him boxing here in America probably goes out the window
from now on. And yeah, this is just it's crazy.
I don't know how serious this thing's gonna be, but.

Speaker 5 (48:12):
It sounds pretty serious. Sounds like Julio.

Speaker 1 (48:14):
Sager Chivez Junior might have had the worst ten day
stretch of luck and all the consequences of his actions.
I guess coming to fruition at once. I don't really know,
but that's probably one of the worst runs I've ever
seen for ten days in the.

Speaker 5 (48:29):
High level sports world.

Speaker 1 (48:30):
Maybe ever, that's tough and It's kind of a sad
story too, because we've always looked at Chavez.

Speaker 5 (48:34):
Junior as a guy that, you know, maybe was.

Speaker 1 (48:36):
A bit of a disappointment of a fighter because of
the ability his dad had, because the ability Junior had
and just never panned out to be what talent level
he should have been in most people's eyes. But even
when you have all the advantages, even when you have
the upbringing, even when you have all the gifts in
life to live a life that's not one of struggle

(48:58):
or you know, having to do things in the criminal
world because you have an upbringing that allows you to
be away from it, you still get stories like this
where Chavez Junior has affiliated himself, whether loosely or very tightly.
He's one of the most prolific cartels in the history
of mankind, in the Cineloa Cartel, and then the weapons
charges and everything else.

Speaker 2 (49:15):
Sad story.

Speaker 1 (49:16):
Man, Well, see what happens with this story going forward
and how much of it continues to unravel.

Speaker 2 (49:21):
But once again, apparent.

Speaker 1 (49:24):
Affiliate of the Cineloa cartel with an active criminal arrest warrant,
Juliosser Chavez Junior not just son of a legend and
son of the greatest Mexican boxer ever but apparently affiliate
of the Cineloa cartel and someone with an active criminal
arrest warrant. Julioseser Chavez Junior has been removed from the
country by the demardment of Homeland Security. What happens next

(49:46):
for him? I mean, I think he's probably not gonna
be boxing anytime soon, but I don't have those answers,
so I guess we'll find out, all right. So we
are back on the way concept presented it by the Ring,
and today I have one of the weirdest yet most
awe some things.

Speaker 5 (50:01):
Potentially that I could talk about on this channel.

Speaker 1 (50:03):
We live in such an odd timeline in twenty twenty five,
or on one hand, we are on the fourth of
July watching Joey Chestnut stuff seventy and a half hot
dogs down his gullet, whilst there is chaos all across
the world, and politically here in America it's turmoil. It
feels like every day something that's either great for your
side of the political out comes out or terrible and

(50:24):
you want to just pull your hair out. In the
same sentence, where foreign affairs are all over the place
and it seems like at any moment, World War three
could potentially happen. And yet today, or I guess yesterday,
we got the announcement that Donald Trump, the President of
the United States, would like to hold a America's two

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hundred and fiftieth Birthday celebration next year twenty twenty sixth,
on the fourth of July, because it will be the
two hundred and fiftieth anniversary of Independence Day here in America.
He would like to hold a UFC event on the
front lawn of the White House.

Speaker 5 (51:01):
And just as that was announced.

Speaker 1 (51:03):
Two of the UFC's biggest names that have most recently
either retired in the case of John Jones literally two
weeks ago, or been m i A and I'm not
talking about Miami. And at least this time for one,
Connor McGregor piped up and said, yes please, I would
love to be a part of that, while Dana White
seemingly confirmed that he wants to do it as well.

(51:26):
This really may be happening. It may have just brought
John Jones back to the sport less than two weeks
after he retired, and brought Connor McGregor back to the
octagon for the first time in three years.

Speaker 5 (51:39):
What do I mean the breakdown?

Speaker 1 (51:41):
Let's go so yeah, I'm just gonna start with the
video that started this whole thing. Here's Donald Trump talking
about celebrating the United States is two hundred and fiftieth
anniversary with a UFC event.

Speaker 9 (51:50):
I even think we're gonna have a UFC fight. We're
gonna have Does anybody watch UFC The Great Dana, Well,
we're gonna have a UFC fight. We're gonna have a
UFC I think of this on the grounds of the
White House.

Speaker 6 (52:04):
We have a lot of land there.

Speaker 9 (52:05):
We're gonna build a little We're not Dani's gonna do it.

Speaker 6 (52:08):
Daniel's great, one of a kind.

Speaker 9 (52:10):
Gonna have a UFC fight, championship fight, full fight, like
twenty twenty five thousand people, and we're gonna do that
as part of two fifty.

Speaker 5 (52:18):
Also, here's the thing.

Speaker 1 (52:20):
I don't care what side of the political ol you're on.
To me, this is pretty awesome. Now again, I'm not
one to get super political here.

Speaker 5 (52:27):
And I saw people talking.

Speaker 1 (52:28):
About, oh, this this is political, and Dana White says
he's not political. I don't even look at this as
a political issue. I look at this as the prison
of the United States using a sport that he likes
to showcase how great America is in twenty twenty five,
well twenty twenty six, when it will happened and politically
motivated or not. Is something I think goes well with
the idea of what America is, a place that is

(52:48):
in one hand so beautiful and unique and in the
other completely chaotic and almost cartoon like in a way.
And again, I love we can have a fight on
the grounds of the White House in front of twenty
five thousand people.

Speaker 2 (53:01):
This is awesome to me.

Speaker 1 (53:02):
And it seems like it's not just you know, cannon
fodder here from Donald Trump, because DAINA White is reposting it,
they Know White reposting it on his Instagram, the UFC
retweeting it on their Twitter.

Speaker 5 (53:14):
This doesn't seem.

Speaker 1 (53:15):
Like just a haha, great funny moment there, Trump, We're
gonna move on it acts like you didn't say that.
It seems like, oh, hey, well maybe this could potentially
be a real thing. And as soon as that became
a real thing. And we're gonna focus mainly on John
Jones in this video, but it does need to be
said that Connor McGregor has been the most vocal fighter
about potentially being on this card. Has He tweeted halfy

(53:35):
fourth of July USA excited President Trump announcing a UFC.

Speaker 5 (53:39):
Fight event at the White House. I would love to
be honored.

Speaker 2 (53:41):
Count me in.

Speaker 1 (53:42):
I would be honored. Excuse me, count me in. And
then there's a picture of him and Donald. Look it,
you know, he just looks like he is Dennis the
Menace in real form. Man Connor just always looks like
he's up to some weird, sadistic shit. And then someone asked,
groc will Connor be at the White House. Connor's expressed
strong interest in fighting at the White House, and then
Connor quote tweets it with a direct message, two of

(54:04):
which to Dana White, and then Dana responds, I love
it so again you can see Connor the only place
where disputes truly get settled, the White House, where Connor
is yet again goading Michael Chandler into a fight. And
I feel like we should put the Titanic meme up
because it's been forty years. It feels like since Conor

(54:27):
and Michael Chandler decided they were going to fight each other.
I'm pretty sure this is supposed to be Ai Trump
in the background and both of them facing off on
the grounds of the White House. Jesus, and then we
have Connor tweeting once again. Fourth of July next year
is a Saturday regarding President Trump's UFC White House event.
I will be reigning President of Ireland just under one
year when I step out on the lawns of the

(54:49):
White House to throw down epic proportions, or as I
like to call it, Tuesday at the office vote McGregor.
I highly doubt that Connor McGregor is gonna be the
next president of Ireland, but I have no idea about
politics over the just as much as I don't really
know about politics here. Regardless, Connor is fired up. I
have not seen Connor this fired up about a fight
since Dustin Poortier two to three. Honestly, he wasn't even

(55:11):
this fired up about fighting Michael Chandler while he was
coaching against him on The Ultimate Fighter. Like this has
gotten Connor's attention, and you can see clearly when he's
invested versus what he isn't now what I like for
Connor McGregor to main event a UFC White House event.

Speaker 5 (55:27):
Sure, why not, that's awesome.

Speaker 1 (55:29):
It would be historic for the UFC, it'd be awesome
for the sport of MMA. Again, people are gonna cry
on Twitter about it being political. I don't really give
It's an awesome event in a wacky world that already
is MMA. I mean, let's be honest. This sport is
not some buttoned up, bureaucratic, white collar sport. And that
was kind of the reason people didn't like boxing for
the longest time, is because it felt too rigid in

(55:50):
the high class, kind of bourgeois nature of the sport
turned people off. MMA has never done that. It's a
fighter's fighter sport. It's a fan favorite sport. It's a
wacky world day living. So I think this would be
an awesome event, and Connor clearly is fired up. But
the bigger story here is John Jones, because why we'll
see Connor tweet about wanting to fight here and the
pictures of Michael Chandler and all that. On the other side,

(56:12):
we have John Jones who piped up about this fight
card and wanting to be a part of it, where
he said fighting at the White House with the eyeball emojis,
and then he also tweeted this.

Speaker 5 (56:21):
This is from ESPN MMA.

Speaker 1 (56:22):
John Jones posted this on the social media less than
two weeks after announcing his retirement for MMA.

Speaker 5 (56:27):
John said, just.

Speaker 1 (56:28):
Re entered the testing pool that lasted for about two weeks.
Figured we keep everyone's options open now again, It's one
thing if you're Connor McGregor to tweet about wanting to
fight at this as of right now potential UFC White
House event July four, twenty twenty six. But it's another
thing if you're John Jones to enter the testing pool
two weeks or less than two weeks after you've retired

(56:51):
and given up your heavyweight championship belt to potentially fight
at this event or maybe before that. And I'm not
saying that either guy is gonna fight in this event
or at all. This could just be hey, I'm bored
on social media on the fourth of July, and John's
case probably because no one wants to hang out with
him because when they get too drunk, he acts like
a complete psycho and endangerous people. And for Connor's case,

(57:12):
they also well, yeah, that's probably for both guys, to
be honest, But if John really is re entering the
testing pool, This opens up the idea of potential super
fights for John Jones, because the one thing that I
think everyone had asked about John Jones and from John
Jones when he was stalling the heavyweight division and holding
onto the belt was that John dropped the belt if

(57:34):
he wanted to do super fights and have Tom Askman,
I'll become your undisputed heavyweight champion. And for the longest time,
that's what drove people away from the John Jones show.
At least one of the things, on top of the
many other things we've talked about in John's past is
allegations the things he actually did the peds all. Now
you don't have that obstacle, And I wonder, and I

(57:56):
want to ask you guys, would you be more interested
in watching a John Jones fight now that he's not.

Speaker 5 (58:01):
Holding up the heavyweight division?

Speaker 1 (58:02):
Would you be more interested in a potential super fight
for John Jones if he's not holding up the division?
Could it be Tom Aspinall? Sure, Let's say Tom Aspinall
goes and beats Cyril God, Who's most likely gonna be
next for him, and then John is there waiting for
the actual undisputed champion.

Speaker 2 (58:17):
In Tom Aspinall.

Speaker 1 (58:18):
Maybe that's the case, or maybe John wants a super
fight with an incoming heavyweight Alex Pereira. Poeton not saying
that's even plausible right now, because it seems like Perera
wants to have his rematch versus Maca bet on Calia.
The point is sta fight is there a year from now,
in twenty twenty six, after Pooton does his business at
light heavyweight?

Speaker 5 (58:38):
Would you be interested in that fight? Because I certainly would.

Speaker 1 (58:41):
I think that's an interesting fight for John Jones and
one that if he doesn't want to fight Tom Aspinall,
keeps him away from doing that, whilst also allowing us
to keep the heavyweight division moving and Poeton John is
a one off super fight. Let's say a year from now,
Dana White finds a way to make peace with Francis
and Ganhu. I think he only has one fight left
on it pfl del maybe two, I don't really know. Regardless,

(59:02):
Let's see if that potentially could happen, because Francis walking
right back into the heavyweight division. Sure him versus Tom
Asmenall would be massive as the fight that probably most
people would want. Francis never lost his bell officially tom
if he's still the champion at that point, which I
assume he will be, that would be a fight to make,
but also potentially a.

Speaker 5 (59:20):
Super fight there for John Jones as well.

Speaker 1 (59:22):
What I'm trying to say is this opens up options
for John Jones. If he's truly not having any interest
in fighting Tom Aspenall, that would be disappointing for sure,
And honestly, the most interesting fight that you can make
for John Jones right now is the one that's been avoided,
like the plague, but now does have a bit of
a different dynamic. Should Tom Asminall go and get two

(59:43):
or three more wins at heavyweight the rest of this year,
in the first part of next year, all of a sudden,
Tom aspen All becomes not only a viable heavyweight champion,
but one that is kind of the big draw for
John Jones. The one thing that John has said Tom
isn't he's here today.

Speaker 5 (59:57):
Gone tomorrow. He's not a big draw. He's not gonna
be remembered.

Speaker 1 (01:00:00):
If Tom gets a couple of those wins, all of
a sudden, he has a lot of those attributes that
John would be looking for in a heavyweight fight. A
number goes up it's at a historic event. Maybe that's
the final straw that pulls John Jones into a Tom
Aspinall fight. Regardless, I love that fight, I love that idea,
and I think it's more, honestly, right now, more of

(01:00:20):
a reality for John to fight than even Connor McGregor.
As much as he's saying I want to do it,
I want to do it, Connor's talking about also running
for office in Ireland.

Speaker 5 (01:00:30):
Do you really think.

Speaker 1 (01:00:32):
If he's truly honest and serious about that, that Connor
McGregor can both balance being a UFC fighter and trying
to run for political office in Ireland.

Speaker 5 (01:00:40):
The answer is.

Speaker 1 (01:00:41):
No, because right now Connor McGregor can't even balance on
his yacht while the waves come in while also being
a part owner of BKFC and then seriously trying to fight.

Speaker 5 (01:00:51):
None of these things are working as it is.

Speaker 1 (01:00:53):
If Connor's actually trying to run for political office, it's
going to not work. Even more like if this is
the only thing driving Connor's passion for fighting, sure, okay,
Like I'm down if you want to do that as
the main event, and I'm throwing more cold water on that,
and I have to do after a dream I've had
about the Chloe concept. The point is, if I'm gonna
pick between John and Connor on this, I'll call it

(01:01:14):
fictitious White House event that Donald Trump is potentially creating.

Speaker 5 (01:01:18):
I think John's more likely to fight. I'll be honest
with you.

Speaker 1 (01:01:21):
He doesn't have the money Connor has and have the
opportunities outside of fighting that Connor has. Quite frankly, John's
a better fighter even now at his age than Connor
was at a division that if he comes back, there's
one real threat to him in tom aspinall and if
he's able to do that, John goes down. If he
isn't already the greatest ever, he will go down as
the greatest fighter to have ever lived. So as much
as everybody is gonna say please John, stay retired, stay retired,

(01:01:44):
stay retired, I'm gonna go the opposite way here and say, nah,
I want to see it, I can't lie.

Speaker 2 (01:01:49):
I want to see I want to see this event.

Speaker 5 (01:01:51):
Give a shit.

Speaker 1 (01:01:52):
How many people cry about it being political and all
this other stuff, It's cool to me.

Speaker 5 (01:01:56):
It's a pretty sick way to celebrate America.

Speaker 1 (01:01:58):
And even if it is political, if you're telling me
that that's what it takes is President Trump to say, Hey,
we're gonna do an event on the grounds of the
White House to get two of the biggest names in
MMA to come back and actually fight.

Speaker 5 (01:02:10):
I'm so old and as much as you guys.

Speaker 1 (01:02:12):
Are probably gonna complain about me saying that you will
watch it too, and you're lying to yourself if you're
gonna sit there and say you won't bullshit before you
get on your high horse and talk about how this
isn't needed, or we don't want John, or we don't
want Connor, or it's all political and it's this and that.
Y'all are the same people that are complaining that the
UFC is watered down, they don't do enough unique stuff,

(01:02:35):
that they aren't trying to innovate, and that they've lost
their fastball. You cannot sit there with a straight face
and tell me that if the UFC puts on an
event at the White House for twenty five thousand on
the front lawn and get either Connor McGregor or John Jones,
potentially in some wacky world, both of them on the card,
lace it up with American Fighters Championship bouts throughout, and

(01:02:58):
put on one of the most unique cards that it's
ever been made that you wouldn't watch, or that it
wouldn't pump you up just a little bit, because that
is something the sport is lacking. Not every event needing
to be at the White House, but just something unique
and fresh and a little whacky. Yeah, I'll say I
think if the right fights can be made, Connor and
Michael Chandler still is a fight that to me makes sense,

(01:03:19):
John versus potentially really any super fight to me makes sense. Sure, Okay,
Tom Aspinall should be the one. But if it isn't
that we're talking about a year from now, maybe the
UFC can find a way to get Francis and gan
who back in, or let's see what happens with Poeton
a light heavyweight.

Speaker 5 (01:03:34):
Either way, I think this is sick.

Speaker 1 (01:03:36):
And if this was the final straw to get John
to come out of retirement or to rethink retirement and
to get Connor McGregor some passion back into the sport,
and you have the answer for what's lacking in MMA
right now from the fan perspective, from the company perspective,
and from the fighter perspective. And no, to me, at least,
it's not the love for Donald Trump and the Trump
Glaze Fest or whatever it is that you guys are

(01:03:57):
going to complain about in the comments. It is something
unique that fighters have never done, that they never have imagined,
that makes them go. You know what, I don't want
to miss being on that card.

Speaker 5 (01:04:09):
You know what I don't want.

Speaker 1 (01:04:10):
To miss being a part of history that, ladies and
gentlemen is what will bring your big stars back and
hopefully in front of the eyes of the nation of
the United States obviously, and hopefully the rest of the
world can create new stars for you. But again, everything's hypothetical.
I don't know if this is even going to happen.
I'm just giving you my thoughts on the news as

(01:04:30):
it comes out. Is this Donald Trump UFC White House
event plausible?

Speaker 6 (01:04:35):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:04:35):
Sure? Is it possible? Maybe? Will it happen?

Speaker 1 (01:04:38):
And is John Jones really unretired? Is he really coming
back to the sport? And is Conor McGregor actually going
to fight on this plausible, possible card whilst being the
President of Ireland. I know it sounds wacky and quite frankly,
I'm not sure I believe any of it, but I
don't have those answers. So one year from today in
the good old us of A on the grounds of

(01:04:59):
the White House. It's possibly we have an event like
no other. What happens then? Who had lines? Who is
on this card?

Speaker 5 (01:05:07):
Don't have those answers, so I guess we'll find out,
all right.

Speaker 1 (01:05:10):
So we're back the way concept presented by The Ring
and today Tyson Fury is back in the sport of
boxing and apparently he wants to fight Alexander Usik.

Speaker 5 (01:05:19):
And he's not the only one that wants that. In fact,
the man himself, h E.

Speaker 1 (01:05:22):
Turkey Ella Shake is hinting that he potentially wants that,
and I I got a different idea. What do I
mean the breakdown? Let's go as of This was July second,
couple days ago. By the way, Happy fourth of July
to all my Americans out there, because I do think
this is the greatest country on earth and uh yeah,
Happy Birthday America. But two days ago, this report came

(01:05:43):
out from The Ring magazine says Tyson Fury is set
to come out of retirement and return to boxing in
twenty twenty six. Turkey Ella Shik has confirmed. Before we
go into what Turkey said, is anybody surprised by this?

Speaker 5 (01:05:53):
The answer is no.

Speaker 1 (01:05:54):
Everybody knows that Tyson Fury probably wasn't retired when he did,
and that he's done this before retire fired for a bit,
come out of retirement, made people think he was done
with the sport, then blatantly tells people that he can't
beat n with the sport, that he's addicted to boxing,
that he trains every day, that he's sparring three times
a week without fighting. This guy loves this sport. He's
still relatively young, and he's in the heavyweight division where

(01:06:16):
careers last longer than most sitcoms on American television. Yes,
I'm looking at you, Gray's Anatomy. It's time to hang
at the up. The point is Tyson Fury is back,
and according to h E and as we'll see in
a second, according to Tyson Fury, he wants the USIK trilogy.
And it's not just Tyson that wants the USIK trilogy.
It's Turkeyella Shake. Like he said quote, I talked with

(01:06:37):
him and I have his word to have him in
riodd season in twenty twenty six.

Speaker 5 (01:06:41):
We have a rabbit to hunt. And for those that know.

Speaker 1 (01:06:43):
Tyson Fury has referred to Alexander Usik as the rabbits,
and funny enough, Usik has kind of embraced the rabbit
with the rabbit's foot and the whole thing, kind of
embracing Dyson Fury trying to make fun of him, but
he kind of flipped it on him, and also flipped
two fights on Tyson Fury going to an oh against
the Gypsy King. So I don't know if there's much
of a need for a third fight other than you know,

(01:07:05):
the potential eyeballs that are gonna be on it. But
I will counter you with a fight that I think.

Speaker 5 (01:07:10):
Is even more popular. I think a fight that may even.

Speaker 1 (01:07:12):
Be being set up by his excellency Turkeyella Shake.

Speaker 5 (01:07:16):
But I don't know any of this.

Speaker 1 (01:07:19):
I just think instead of Tyson Fury going and getting
the third fight with Alexander Usik barring a win from
Alexander Usik versus Daniel Duba on July nineteenth, why not
do Tyson Fury and Anthony Joshua. This fight makes all
the sense in the world. Both of them have losses,
two losses to Alexander Usik. Both of them have faced

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points in their careers now where it's a bit of
a turning point right, if Tyson goes into the Yusik
fight and loses a third time, does his drawing power diminish?
Anthony Joshua just lost to Daniel Dubois, took a long
time off the sport. Tyson Fury and Anthony Joshua was
the one fight that got away. It was the one
fight we never got. For years and years we talked
about this thing, and it just makes all the sense

(01:08:03):
in the world to do it right now. And again
this is just conspiracy theory. Wait here, you might as
well put the ten foil hat on me. But I
feel like Trek Yala Shak is being a little too
on the nose with saying we have a rabbit to hunt,
because again, think about it this way. Yes, he's talking
about twenty twenty six, and that's far and away enough
time for if Usik does beat Duboi, which you know
we'll see Duas on a hot streak right now, maybe

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he can switch things up. I don't think that was
a low blow hit him within the first fight, regardless,
that would be far and away enough time, almost a
year plus to do the fight in riot season.

Speaker 5 (01:08:33):
But what if that isn't the fight they're playing.

Speaker 1 (01:08:34):
What if they actually are trying to get Anthony Joshua
and Tyson Fury together, because it makes all the sense
in the world, and because neither of the guys have
a fight lined up. I would argue that Tyson Fury
and Anthony Joshua would do more in pay per view,
more in revenue, more eyeballs, and in some ways be
more important for both fighters right now than even Tyson
Fury challenging for the heavyweight belt for the third time.

(01:08:56):
And you can give me the argument that Tyson Fury
was close to winning the first fight and did well
in the second fight as well, and I'm not going
to disagree with you.

Speaker 5 (01:09:04):
It was a very.

Speaker 1 (01:09:05):
Close fight in the first and in the first part
of the second fight. In the first half of the fight,
I thought it was a close fight as well before
Usik in both fights put his foot on the pedal
and eventually ran away with it like a wrap. And
obviously we can remember Tyson Fury did not think he
lost the second fight.

Speaker 6 (01:09:22):
Awful.

Speaker 7 (01:09:22):
He was kid, so I'm awful he was gonna get
if I want, I'll swatch are going forward straight around
for spots.

Speaker 6 (01:09:28):
To fight from.

Speaker 1 (01:09:30):
That was him talking to his former trainer Ben Davidson,
I did not think Tyson Fury was as close in
the second fight as he was in the first. Even
after getting rocked in the first fight, I still thought
he was closer in that one. So I guess, in
my mind, just my opinion, I don't know what would
be different this time around. Tyson seems to think that
he was robbed in the second fight and that if
he did it in England it would be different. I

(01:09:50):
don't know if that's the case, and and even if
it is the case, Turkey Alishaik is saying that I
have his word to have him in Riodd's season in
twenty twenty six. Now again, I could just be misreading
that a riodd season branded event taking place in England,
but that seems to me like Turkey ala Shak wants
to fight back in Saudi Arabia. So I don't know
what would be different the third time around, other than

(01:10:12):
the fact that Tyson may train a little differently and
it may be tough to beat the guy three times.
Point is I just I don't know. Doesn't seem like
the fight that makes the most sense, And Turkey alas
Shak is known so far from making the fights we
want to see within his power, right, he has made
the Bivol better BEV one and two. He has made
Tyson Fury USI. He's made big fight after a big fight.

Speaker 5 (01:10:34):
So I just.

Speaker 1 (01:10:34):
Don't know if this is a little bit of misdirection
from Turkey or maybe it is just just right on
the nose. But regardless, I think the fight that I
would want to see more, to be honest, is Tyson
Fury and Anthony Joshua. But again, you also have to
give Tyson a reason to come out of retirement. Whether
people want to see the third fight or not, Tyson
surely wants to have a third shot at the belt.

Speaker 2 (01:10:55):
I would think.

Speaker 5 (01:10:55):
I think it.

Speaker 1 (01:10:56):
Probably means more to him than fighting Anthony Joshua for
no belt. But this is what Tyson Fury had to
say regarding his comeback and why he wants to come
back to boxing.

Speaker 7 (01:11:06):
I'm out, Pete. I've won everything I've had to do.
I send my last fight was a clear fucky victory
for the Gypsy King.

Speaker 1 (01:11:13):
Incorrect.

Speaker 5 (01:11:15):
I don't know where he.

Speaker 1 (01:11:17):
He comes up with this ideas, And you can say
this's a close fight. You can say that Tyson Fury
fought well up until the fifth round, maybe into the
sixth and seventh, but as we got into the seven
through twelve rounds, this was completely one sided to Alexander Usik,
and quite frankly, if you look back on the fight,

(01:11:38):
and I no, copy box doesn't tell the entirety of
the story, but if you just look back at punches
thrown versus punches landed in this fight, Jury threw more,
landed less. Usik threw less, landed more, and he threw
less while landing more round by round, and you can
see his punch stats be deadly accurate from rounds pretty
much six on seven, eight, nine, in eleven, twelve. He's

(01:12:01):
going fifty percent damn near in eight through twelve. And
it's not just jabs or light punches. Over half of
his punches were power punches landed flush. So I just
I don't see where Fury gets this idea that he
clearly won the second fight. He was clearly, in my mind,
out boxed in the second fight, more so than even
in the first. You could have the argument for the
first fight potentially going to Fury, and that would be

(01:12:23):
more believable than him winning the second fight. So I
don't know where he's deluded himself into think and this
was robbed from him. But point blank, period, he lost
the second fight.

Speaker 7 (01:12:30):
Anyone in boxing could see that. A complete load of
doug shit. Yeah, political, whatever you want to call it
on Use's very experienced.

Speaker 5 (01:12:37):
By the way. We can't forget that in the ring.

Speaker 1 (01:12:40):
Tyson Fury said the reason, or at least paraphrased to say,
the reason that Usik won the second fight was because
there was a war going on in the Ukraine and
they wanted to give him the win.

Speaker 5 (01:12:51):
That's the level of.

Speaker 1 (01:12:52):
Delusion we're talking about with Tyson Fury right now.

Speaker 7 (01:12:54):
Again, he's coming off for two fights from me, which
is debatable whether he wont them or not, which you did.
He got the decision, which is all that matters. If
I was gonna come back, i'd come back for. I
want a fair result in Englands.

Speaker 5 (01:13:07):
Would he be the only fighter that you've come back for.

Speaker 7 (01:13:09):
That'd be a one on one immediately, That'd be the
most fight I want next. I won't want to fuck
you fair fight. I don't want any favors. I want
a fair fight, a fair assault, which I believe and
I know I didn't not that second fight. I fucking
thought I want it by five rounds. I've watched it.

Speaker 5 (01:13:28):
Tyson Fury thinks he won the second fight.

Speaker 1 (01:13:30):
By five round which rounds genuinely like you, how you
even argue that he won it by five round There's
no logical argument for that. I mean again, it's Tyson Fury.
He's talking out of his ass. But the other thing, too,
is like Turkey Ala Shaik is clearly saying he wants
Tyson to go rabbit hunting.

Speaker 5 (01:13:49):
He is saying we are going rabbit hunting.

Speaker 1 (01:13:52):
Is in Turkey and Tyson, and let's not forget Turkey
has been on the side of Tyson Fury when it
comes to most of the fights, like he actively is
like Tyson is gonna beat Francis and Gan who I'm sorry,
Tyson gonna beat Usik, I'm sorry. And Tyson sitting here
talking about politicalist political that that has no effect.

Speaker 5 (01:14:10):
On him winning or losing.

Speaker 1 (01:14:11):
Clearly, if Turkey wanted him to beat Usik and Husak
beat him twice then has nothing to do with any
political anything. I don't know what he's talking about there,
but yeah, uh, he did not win the second fight
at all.

Speaker 5 (01:14:22):
And let alone by five rounds.

Speaker 7 (01:14:24):
Literally childred and fifty times on each way, i'd.

Speaker 5 (01:14:27):
Have two hundred and fifty times. He rewatched it two
hundred and fifty times.

Speaker 7 (01:14:31):
Bullshit, say that's away for him win, But I know
you can. They can do what they want. If they
say it's fucking Tuesday, it's Tuesday. I don't make excuses on.

Speaker 4 (01:14:42):
With the next thing.

Speaker 1 (01:14:43):
I don't make excuses except the reason that Usik won
is because there was a war going on in Ukraine.

Speaker 5 (01:14:49):
Never forget it.

Speaker 1 (01:14:50):
So anyway, here is more of Tyson talking about why
he would want to fight Usik.

Speaker 5 (01:14:55):
Right now, Usak, I won't be revenge Jenn England, that's
all on one.

Speaker 7 (01:15:00):
I want my fair shout, and I don't believe I've
got a fair shout the last two times.

Speaker 8 (01:15:04):
So I don't know what I'm gonna have to do
because I can't maybe go to this is ship. Well, yeah,
that's the one I want both. If I don't get that,
then it'd be Joshua. The biggest breache fight that will happen.

Speaker 5 (01:15:15):
I would break, yes, it would.

Speaker 7 (01:15:17):
All records and he would sell out a hundred thousand
in an hour.

Speaker 8 (01:15:21):
Yep, it's a fight that I think can happen for
sure if I decided to come back and the deal
if I did come back, hypothetically.

Speaker 1 (01:15:28):
Speaking it that's the one man, That is the one,
and he says the reason why that's the one. Obviously, Personally,
to Tyson, it means more to grab the belts off Oosick,
it means more to right the two losses, the only
two losses of his career. It means more for that
and I get it. But one hundred thousand people the fight,
the fans, and especially the UK fans, because let's be honest,

(01:15:52):
right now, boxing is white hot in the UK, is
more popular, it has got bigger stars right now in
the UK in the US for the most part, outside
of a couple names I can run through and you
guys would argue in the comments, but the point.

Speaker 5 (01:16:05):
Is he's right. They would sell out Wimley.

Speaker 1 (01:16:08):
This would be one of, if not the biggest fight
in British boxing history, and it just makes all the
sense in the world. Again, personally, I get it for
Tyson it's the second option, But for the fans, for
the sport, for the right matchups and where both guys
are in their careers, this is the best matchup. This
is the only matchup that makes sense for both guys
right now, coming off the losses they've come off of

(01:16:30):
the guys that beat them fighting for the bell. And again,
I know this is talking about a year from now,
but still, for every reason he listed there, and he's right,
this fight needs to happen. It would be more of
a travesty to the sport if we don't get Tyson
and AJ rather than us getting the trilogy between Tyson
and Usik by far, point blank period. And that should
be the only reason, that's the only argument that I

(01:16:52):
should have to make as to why that fight should happen,
because if we don't get it, it will be one
of the greatest fights we never got. We don't get Tyson,
Fury and Usik for the third time, does it really matter?
And I think that's probably all I need to say
about this. They're talking about Riot season twenty twenty six.
It makes all the sense in the world to do
it at Wimbley. If they could book it, one hundred
thousand people would definitely sell out. Whatever the number is

(01:17:14):
at Wimley, ninety thousand. I've heard before one hundred thousand,
but this one's a grudge match.

Speaker 2 (01:17:18):
It doesn't even have.

Speaker 1 (01:17:19):
To be for the best British boxer ever, because that's
not the case. I think that title goes to Lennox Lewis.

Speaker 5 (01:17:24):
But for the modern era, this is one.

Speaker 1 (01:17:26):
Of those fights that if we don't get it will
be a damn shame and it won't have that punctuation
mark on either guy's career that it really should have. Right,
either guy retiring before we get that would be a disappointment,
I think, and even to them to some degree. Right
they've all made millions of dollars, they all have all
the money in the world, but if they still have
that fire about fighting, you know that both of them,

(01:17:48):
deep down inside, I've always looked across the island and
said I could beat that guy. I'm really the face
of British boxing, and now both guys have an opportunity
to prove. I think Anthony Joshua has done a lot
more to keep his fan base strong and come back
from adversity over the years, whereas Tyson Fury has a
strong fan base. Don't get me wrong, but sometimes the
way he acts and kind of talks, he kind of
fluctuates back and forth with him regardless they both have

(01:18:11):
massive fan bases, both of Harry Bridge boxing at points
in their career, and both have been the face of
British boxing. So I think it's just now time to settle.
And then Tyson Fury also says this, and I want
to box.

Speaker 7 (01:18:22):
Don you far he won on the glove on me?

Speaker 8 (01:18:25):
He won side he beat down.

Speaker 4 (01:18:27):
Well, listen, I wish you luck.

Speaker 7 (01:18:28):
Can he fight against in sec what styles?

Speaker 8 (01:18:30):
May fight you on his style on my style, don't gell.

Speaker 1 (01:18:36):
I mean, that's great to say it all, but it's
been a while since Tyson Fury had one of those
you're not gonna lay a glove on me performances, guys
that were both good technically and weren't good technically. Everybody
laid a glove on him since the Deontay Wilder fight.
Deontay knocked him down and he rose up like the undertaker.
Ransa Singanu who had never had a boxing match before,
hit him with the left hook and knocked him down.
Who sick is touching with the left hand and wobbled

(01:18:57):
him damn near sent him to the floor.

Speaker 5 (01:18:59):
I don't know if if I believe anymore that.

Speaker 1 (01:19:01):
Tyson Fury is as slick as potentially he was early
in his career that the guy that outboxed Vladimir Klitschko.
I don't know if that guy is still in there,
so I don't. I mean, again, that matchup cool, But again,
I'm just gonna put it out there. I think it
would mean more if Tyson beats Anthony Joshua and then
or Anthony Joshua beat Tyson, regardless the winner either fought Usick,

(01:19:23):
if he beats Daniel Dubat, or in some fashion there's
some rematches that happened. Either way, it's a clear choice
from now. Again, my opinion means nothing when it comes
to what actually will happen. Am I glad that Tyson
is talking about returning. Yeah, absolutely, because when he's into
sport it's better than when he's not. I mean, that's
just it's another massive heavyweight name. Yes, it comes with

(01:19:45):
some All right, We're gonna have to hear Tyson beloviate
and sometimes downright lie about things that have happened to
him and talk some absolute bollocks here and there. But
eventually he will fight, and when he fights, he is
entertaining to watch. He's one of the best fighters at
heavyweight in the world. So yes, of course the sport
is better with him in it. I just think the
best fight, I think the most satisfying. I think the

(01:20:05):
one the sport needs the most, and the one that
will live on through the history books regardless of who
wins or loses, is Tyson Fury Anthony Joshua. That's the
fight I think needs to happen. I hope that that's
the fight that does happen. And I'm not so sure
that this tweet from Turkey Allas Shake and the Ring
Magazine is not more window dressing. Maybe I'm wrong, but
to be so blunt about having him just come back

(01:20:26):
and fight Alexander Usik, I think there may be a
little bit more going on, especially hearing people like Eddie
Hearn talking about how at all points Turkey Allas Shake
wants to make the biggest fights possible for the fans
for the sport. I think everybody in that circle knows,
and really all over the world knows that at heavyweight
there's no bigger fight, even for a world title. Right now,
I'm gonna put my name on that one.

Speaker 5 (01:20:46):
I'm gonna stamp that I don't.

Speaker 1 (01:20:47):
Think there's a bigger fight at heavyweight world title included
or not in Tyson Fury.

Speaker 2 (01:20:53):
And Anthony Joshua. That's the fight that needs to be made.

Speaker 1 (01:20:56):
You disagree, let me know in the comments below, or
if you agree, let me know regardless what happens next
for Tyson Fury. He's apparently out of retirement and back
into boxing.

Speaker 2 (01:21:04):
I don't have those answers.

Speaker 1 (01:21:05):
I know what I want, but I don't have those answers,
So I guess we'll find out

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