THE W.A.D.E. Concept - WEEK IN REVIEW - UFC 318 MADNESS, Daniel Dubois EXPOSED and Misfits 22 Presser BREAKDOWN... - The Herd with Colin Cowherd

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right. So UFC three to eighteen just ended, and
Max Holloway just beat Dustin Poie in his retirement fight
in New Orleans. It was a bittersweet fight. It was
one of those fights that you wanted to see both
guys win. Unfortunately that's not how fighting or really any
sports were. But Holloway wins two judges had a forty
nine forty six. I thought that was the right score.

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Dustin Poi, obviously a little upset, did not think so.
But I thought Max did enough to get it done.
A good back and forth start to the fight. But
eventually Max Holloway at one fifty five looks like a
different animal, and Dustin Poier still has dog left in him,
but I think it's the right time for him to
walk away. Let's talk about it and what it means
for the future of Max Holloway at this weight class.

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To breakdown, let's go so, like I said, this was
a tough fight, back and forth. Max Holloway coming up
to fifty five, this is his new weight class, had
success obviously in the Justin Gaetchee fight, really kind of
outclass Justin Gaichie. The entirety of UFC three hundred then
the big right hand, the you know, historic viral knockout
right there at the end as he pointed to the ground,

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he gets the BMF belt. And that moment was kind
of the christening of this one because Dustin Poorier looking
for someone to match up with in his retirement batt
why not do it for the BMF belt? Why not
do it in New Orleans at one hundred and fifty
five pounds, So the date was set. Now Poorier coming
into this two wins over Max Holloway, one in twenty twelve,

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which is crazy, that was before some of you were born,
and the second one in twenty nineteen in the interim
title fight at one fifty five, Dustin's actual only title win.
Whether you want to call him a champion or not,
I think interim titles can be a good thing for
the sport, and honestly, I look at Dustin as a
champion even if he never held undisputed. And so the
fight started and Max Holloway, you know, coming into it,

(01:49):
the keys I thought for the fight kind of played
out in the way you thought the keys of this
fight would. As the first round he jumped on Dustin
Porty got very busy with his hands, started with the
body kicks as well. Was having that stomp to the
knee implemented into Max's game. He's doing that more and
more now. But it was the bodykicks were just so
clean for Max, just over and over working the body

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with that back leg kick, and then he was going variety.
He was going hook right hand, he was going jab
to the body, right hand to the body, he was
jab upstairs, hook upstairs. And then eventually in the midst
of all that variety and the bodykicks and Dustin not
really answering punches with punches or answering attack with attack
right looking for counters. Dustin just kept evading, and that

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would become a theme where Max would attack and Dustin,
instead of staying in the pocket head and movement or
slipping off center line looking the counter, would evade, pressure, reset,
then get back to the fray. I think that was
one of the biggest differences in this fight and one
of the biggest reasons the fight ended up going Max's
way completely. Was it Dustin was never willing to meet

(02:53):
and exchange. It was only let's reset my turn, your turn,
I'm getting out of here. Reset my turn. I didn't
like that for Dustin, but it was very effective for
Max because he had no resistance on some of these
combination punches. And in the first round he stunned and
shocked Dustin Poier hit him with a nasty hook right hand.
It was one of his best go tos with the punches.
Corral you with the hook, right hand down the pipe,

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drops Dustin and really had him hurt badly. And you
wondered about the psychological effect of this whole thing for
Dustin Poier, you know, it's his last fight. Lil Wayne
was supposed to perform, doesn't able to. But he's walking
him out. You know, he said this is the best
cut he's ever made. He's got letters fans are sending him.
They're making him read it before the fight, talking about
thank you for all you've done for me in your career.

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He's all emotional, no excuses. My point is all of
it comes to a point in this first round where
I go, oh my god, we may not even get
out of the first three minutes of this fight, and
that's how this is going to end. I thought Max
was going to finish him in the first round. He
almost did, but Dustin, you know, he's a veteran, he's savvy,
he got back to his feet, he's tough as nails.
Back Max off a little bit and survived the round,

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but going into the second that was a huge round
for Max halla and again it showed you very quickly
that Max was here to do what he said he
was going to do, spoil the party, look to potentially
get his name into the top three or four at lightweight.
I think he's number four right now, and use this
momentum to build toward to potentially a rematch with Iliot's
to Poria. All things going his way, and then the
second round start and in the second round Max is

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having a ton of success again and again it's all
off that same unspoken agreement that they both have made
now where Max is going to throw volume and Dustin
is looking for one big shot. Honestly, it did look
a lot like the first fight for Dustin Poier because
he looked to hit that switch that he hit on
Max multiple times in the first fight, where he would
throw out of southpaw his backhand as a lead punch

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because Dustin, I don't know if you guys know, but
it's pretty clear is not a natural southpaw. He is
a right handed person fighting southpaw to have advantages in
power in his lead hand. Look at a lot of
the shots that Dustin hits people with that knocks them
out in was Saint any Connor McGregor. The list goes on.
It's his right hand and it's out of the south
paw position sometimes, or it's out of that switch lead backhand,

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stepped forward, backhand now becomes the right hand, his powerful hand.
Cracked them with the backhand there, that's what usually he's
able to put guys away with. And he was looking
for that shot all throughout this fight because he hurt
Max multiple times in their second fight with and in
the second round, Sure as shit, Dustin Pourier found it,
and he found it after Max Holloway had done well

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and gotten a huge lead in the second round, because
Dustin was so hesitant, or because he would try to
hit that switch coming into range and didn't really follow
with anything. So Max was like, cool, double jab, right hand,
kick to the body, left hook, push off and get
back to where he was comfortable and Dustin didn't have
anything for him until Dustin got hit again, got tagged again,

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got wobbled a bit again in that second round and
knew potentially the only way to survive that round and
get back into this fight was to bite down on
that mouthpiece and bring the fight to Max Holloway. And
he did that in that exchange in the second round.
He did that, and there was very few exchanges where
he did that going forward. He had success in this fight,
no doubt about it. Dustin had moments he had success.

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He would land his backhand, he would land a nice
powerful jab his hook backhand, but he didn't have continued
success like he did in this moment because he was
unwilling to continue combination punching forward. He was unwilling to
get back into that fray, into that firefight, into that trade.
And I think I know why, and we'll talk about
it at the latter part of this fight. But in

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that second round they get into an exchange and Dustin
hits him with a nasty right hand behind the ear
and Max hits the floor. I was losing my mind, folks.
This bright here was potentially the moment where Dustin Poirier
was gonna win it in his hometown or close to it,
and New Orleans. He's from Lafayette, but he was gonna

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do it and instead of following up, and it wouldn't
be Dustin Poier if he didn't do this. But instead
of following up, he jumps a guilloty don't be silly,
jumped a gilly. He did it again. It was ill advised.
He shouldn't have done it. He could have potentially finished
Max there, but he only had a couple seconds left
jump the gilly. Max popped his head out. Dustin tried
to hit him with some more ground and pound, but
that's the end of the round. I gave that round

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to Dustin Pourier slightly because Max did so much good
work to begin but that into the round I thought
was enough for him to come back and win that.
But coming into the third round, you built some momentum there.
If you're Dustin Pourier, you know what works. You just
hurt Max by fighting him in close by throwing a
little caution to the wind and doing a little bit
of dirty boxing inside close quarters combat. But the third

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round Max got back to doing what he does best,
sack at his kick range anytime Dustin wanted to blitz boom,
kick to the body. Anytime Dustin came in without a jab,
and he did this a lot out of the south
past stance. He wanted to lead with his backhand, which
would mean he would lean and lunch forward toward Max.
And once you throw your back hand, even out of
Orthodox or south Paul, you throw that backhand and you

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lean over that lead leg, you don't have another follow
up unless you go with the lead hand behind it.
Even then you don't have a follow up after that.
The way Max throws the proper orthodox stance, He's like, cool,
throw that one shot. Here's a double jab right hand
behind it. I can reset now my hook right hand
comes behind that body kick behind that. And it was
just so repetitive that Dustin was getting caught off balance

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overthrowing non committal on offense and Max would counter him.
Whereas on the other side, when Max went first and
he wanted to throw his combinations and he wanted to
throw his one two or his hook right hand, and
Dustin could be there to potentially throw that backhand or
hell just answer with his own lead hook backhand. Dustin

(08:40):
would stand, slide away, try to reset the action and
get started again. I thought that was the biggest misstep
that Dustin had in this fight was not committing fully
to his offense, and then when Max committed fully to
his Dustin allowing him to do so without being punished
for it. Max was punishing Dustin for being noncommittal. Max
was even punishing Dustin for committed, but Dustin wasn't willing
to do the same, or just didn't have the ability

(09:01):
to do the same, or timing or just whatever. But
that was the big difference in the fight. To me,
got Max when he wanted to be on offense, when
he wanted to go first, was committed to it, knew
what he wanted to do, knew what he wanted to
get to, knew where his advantages were, how he was
going to be successful, and did it. Dustin a little unsure.
I thought Max won the third round. I thought he
won the fourth round. And I talked to you guys

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earlier in the video about why potentially Dustin didn't want
to be where he could be most successful, which was
in the pocket with Max Holloway, and round five we
kind of get the reason for that. Listen, Dustin at
this point is my opinion is down three rounds to one,
he kind of needs the fifth round, and really he
needs a knockout. To win this fight, and he had
good moments again, singular shots right the backhand, and moments

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the low kick. He had completely abandoned the low kick,
which I thought was so silly. You want to slow
Max down, you want to cut down on his movement,
you want to keep him in front of you, attack
that low leg. But then again there's always a counter
for it. Max was doing a great job with his
straight punches, so maybe Dustin didn't want to get caught
off balance. But that fifth round, you know, Max is
doing his thing once again. He's winning the round. They
get to that last ten seconds and it's kind of
rent and repeat, but Max points right straight down to

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the ground right there, and Dustin obliges kind of but
only for a second. And this is when I started
to realize, now again it's it's an unspoked They spoke
about it. They were like, you want to do it.
It's Max's thing. Point to the ground. We're going to
have a swing off till the end. Although he didn't
do that with Ilio Teporia. Granted it was at the
beginning of the fight, but Max gave him the old Matador.
I was like, ilia a bit different, But Max points

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to the ground and Dustin obliges, but when they start throwing,
you could see the hesitation from Dustin Poorrie. He even
looked to get double unders on Max at the end there.
He didn't want any part of that because Max showed
a superior hand speed. Again, his volume is insane, he
doesn't get tired, and he's stronger now at fifty five.
He hurt Dustin multiple times in this fight. That kind
of answered the question for me when I said, why

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won't Dustin commit to his offense in the pocket. He
clearly did not think he had the hand speed to
keep up with Max there. He didn't want to stay
there because the longer he stayed there, Max eventually, with
his short punches in close, or if he was able
to get back to his range and set up the
hook right hand, was gonna catch Dustin. And that's fair.
What it showed me was that tonight and maybe since

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their last fight, Max has grown into the correct weight
class and he's added some things to his game that
made it very difficult for Dustin Poorie. His setups, his
variety not just with his punches, but his kicks to
the body upstairs, showing different looks the feints, the taunts again,
making you miss, making you pay, not trying to reset
the action, but countering on top of you, throwing and

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being fully committed to what he's doing. Max showed the
best version of himself tonight, maybe that I've seen since
his you know, prime reign at one forty five, what
he's been doing recently at the end of that last
run at forty five, now moving to fifty five, this
is like a second new wave for Max Holloway. He's
been in the UFC for so long now, same with Dustin.
And I know this is a Dustin Poitier retirement thing

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and we'll get to that, but Max deserves his credit here.
He has revamped and revitalized his career to put himself
in position now and he's right there with Justin Gaigie,
a guy he just knocked out cold not too long ago,
and Arman Seroukian in the number one two, and then
you have Patty Pemblet in potentially that third spot or
spot whatever. Those four guys are next up for Ilia.

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You can take your pick of the litter there, sure
you know, uh, you could say Arman Seroukian probably deserves it.
Justin Gaechie is right there as well. But personally me,
if you're asking, I mean the Patti Pemblet fight, I
love because there's there's real animosity there and there hasn't
already been a definitive winner between the two of them.
I mean, Ilia knocked out Max, so you can't just

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go Max's next. I would love to see Ilia Patty.
That's probably not gonna happen. But if it did, and
you made Max Justin two or I don't know, maybe
you do Armin and Patty and Max and and Justin
and then the winner of that, I don't know. But Max.
The point is he's in a good position now to
be amongst that next maybe not directly next for Ilia,

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but right after that next who's gonna get Ilia? After that?
Max has put himself in a position there to be
talked about, and this is just a great win for him. Obviously,
there's no animosity there for Max and Dustin. And even
after the fight they read the scorecards forty eight, forty
seven and forty nine to forty six. Dustin seemed to
be upset with the scorecards. But when you look at
the stats here, it isn't you know, it's not a

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crazy thing to think. This was forty nine, forty six
and you I mean, shoot, the stats could even say
that Max won every round. But you know, given Dustin
that second round on the knockdown, Max clearly was the
more active, the more accurate, the more just willing to
deal damage fighter here. I mean you look at the
significant strike percentage and the total head body. He had

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it all legs, He attacked everything. This was a Max
Holloway bordering on dominant performance. You know, he got dropped
in the second round, which is why you can't say that.
But outside of that was this was Max Holloway doing
what he wanted to do to a te in this fight,
and Dustin had moments he was successful, very much so
when he committed. But at the end of the day

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it was Max's fight. But Max got on the microphone
and gave his flowers to Dustin. Poorrier. You know, talking
about how he is a legend of sport, and he is.
He never was a champion, but he was right on
the cusps of it. And again he was an interim champion,
one of the most probably the best non champion in
UFC history. I mean, there's probably people that are gonna
pop up in your mind in the comments and let

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me know, but Dustin is right up there with him.
You know. You talk about like the Donald cernyes or
Alexander Gustavson's or people like that. I feel like Dustin
had far more success than those guys, did you know?
And again, I mean he was an interim champ. Could
have been undisputed had the belts gone differently. And you
know the UFC had taken the belt that Abiba voluntarily
already given up and said all right, somebody else fight

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for it back in twenty twenty. So Dustin got on
the mic and thanked Louisiana. You know, he dropped his gloves.
Great tribute. They showed him a video and overall it
was a touching moment for the diamond he's done. And
I think he's gonna He said something about being a
commentator or an analyst for ESPN and if they allow
him to do that, I think he's gonna do a
great job. I really do. I think he he knows
the sport well, he can talk well. I've seen him

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before on the panel disc stuff. But great career for
Dustin Poier. I'm glad to say. I got to watch
a lot of it from when I started watching MMA
in twenty ten twenty eleven, I got to see pretty
much all of Dustin Poier's run in the UFC, so
that was pretty cool to see man. So yeah, great
night of fights in the UFC. But the main takeaway
is Max Holloway is revitaliz at lightweight and if he

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gets another shot at Iliot's Aporia, I'll just remind people
he I watched that fight again the other day. He
was looking damn good until he was knocked out. Now again,
that doesn't mean that it wouldn't go the same way,
because I think Iliots Aporia is the best boxer maybe
I've ever seen an MMA, and for him to be
so reliant on it and so confident in it and
even being down two rounds in my opinion to Max
Holloway in their first fight, he just has an IT factory.

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Obviously he's a great grappler, but he has that confidence
in that IT factor in his boxing that he can
shut your lights off and he has the skill to
get there even at a reach and height disadvantage. But
I'd be lying if I said I didn't want to
see it again. I think it's gonna be some time,
and Max can potentially look for some top three matchups
at fifty five. What do they do with him next?
What happens with Dustin Poier's retirement, does he still stick

(16:11):
around and do analyst work? And what does the UFC
do moving forward? Because there's some interesting storylines going on.
Saw Dana talking about the White House card. We're gonna
make some videos on that this week. The point is
all these things I don't have an answer for. All
I know is that Max Holloway is revitalized. Second part
of his career potentially can't I want to say, be

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as good as his first, but can potentially lead to
a Hall of Fame level, potential, one of the greatest
of all time levels he can grab another belt type careers.
But Max looks super impressive and I just can't wait
to see what he does next. So great night of
fights in the UFC. Max Holloway ruins the party for
Dustin Porier in New Orleans. But what happens next? I
guess we'll find out, all right, So we're back on

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the way Cosset presented by the Ring. It's midnight and
it's been a long day. I've been in Los Angeles
recording with the MMA Casuals. I just announced that I
will be on Misfits Boxing on August thirtieth doing commentary
for the good folks over at Misfits and today. The
story that has just boggled my mind it's been going
on for the last couple of days, is the entire

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Daniel Dubois situation. And the story is rightfully for the
most part, been about Alexander Usik once again becoming the
undisputed heavyweight champion of the world. Second time he's done that.
Third time he's become undisputed between cruiser and heavyweight, one
of the greatest of all times, certainly the greatest heavyweight
of this generation. That should be the story, point blank, period.
Alexander Usik wins and retains and becomes once again undisputed.

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Well as in most sports, that usually is the lead story.
But then there's the speculation and the rumor and the
theory and then conspiracy and maybe in some cases true
to the underlying story, which is what I'm gonna talk
about today. Daniel Dubois in the situation surrounding his fight

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and his fight night. What do I mean the breakdown?
Let's go all right, So for those that don't know,
or maybe you do, I did a lot of research
on Daniel Dubois today, and I found out he's one
of eleven children, that he was mostly homeschooled as a child,
and that his father, Stanley or I guess otherwise known
as Dave I think Davis's real name goes by Stanley,
not really sure, was pretty much the reason that Daniel

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Dubois became a boxer. According to some stuff I've read,
it goes all the way back to before Daniel was born,
and that his father had a vision that Daniel was
going to be a world champion boxer and trained him
to be that from the age of like four or five.
These training sessions, even when he was four or five
years old, would be pretty strenuous, to the point where
Daniel Dubois had to do workouts that included him finishing

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the workout before food was even served at some point.
And I'm only presenting this to you because Daniel Dubois,
who is twenty seven years old now again is a
grown man. We'll get to that in a second, but
I'm giving you this information to show you that Daniel
Dubas's father is a massive part of his life, you
could argue the biggest part of his life even to
this day, outside and inside a box. So it may

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not come as a surprise when I tell you that
Daniel Duba's father, who does have a massive influence on him,
made some very odd decisions that potentially affected Daniel Dubois's
ability to fight on Saturday night. And again, before I
even start talking about this, I'm gonna let you know
I don't think that anything we're going to say was
going to effectively change the outcome of Saturday's fight between

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Daniel Dubois and Alexander Usik. I think Usik was going
to beat Daniel Dubois no matter what shape or form
or outside of the ring stuff happened to him, and
he showed up in Daniel Dubas got in a ring
with Usik one hundred times, I think Usik would probably
beat him ninety nine to one hundred times. That's how
good I believe Alexander Usik is. Now that I've given

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my respect to both Daniel and Alexander Usik, I just
want to talk about how stupid people that are around
boxers can be. And I mean that one hundred percent stupidity, selfishness,
and ego find their ways into famous athletes camps all
the time, but Saturday was a particular level of stupid
from the man that, like I said a second ago,

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influences Daniel Dubois the most, his own father. Let's take
a look. This is by Daily Mail and it is
an article that entails a couple of different things happening.
Daniel Dubois had to quote walk into Wembley after chaotic
journey involving Dad's party, an accreditation nightmare before brutal ko
by Alexander Usik. Before we get into the walking part,

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which is just insanity, let's start with the part that
was the topical news story as we came into Fight Day.
Ladies and gentlemen. This is Daniel Dubois mere hours before
he is about to fight Alexander Usik, and you can
tell because he's wearing the same shirt he entered the
building in on Saturday night, the night he fought Usik.

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Let's take a look at this video. See Daniel looks
and he's smiling, looks like he's having a good time.
And listen, we'll get to Daniel's responsibility in this thing
in a little bit, But like I said, smiling, having
a good time right, a ton of people around them.
I think maybe he's entering the building somewhere. I don't
know why there is a DMX cosplayer a part of

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the venue here. I don't know who this man is
and why his teeth looked like a saloon door opening up.
But listen, no one's paying you to play DMX at
their birthday party. Buddy bounced, come come out well again?
You see here, and we're probably gonna get demonetized by
keep letting it play. But look at all these people

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guys wearing a Los Angeles Angels hat in the middle
of London. I guess it fits the fake Ralph Lauren.
But as you can see, there are a ton of
people gathered at Daniel dubois house. Again, we talked about
Daniel Dubois and how he was raised. Daniel duba still
lives at his parents' house at twenty seven years of age.

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You know Duboi was homeschool. If you've watched Daniel speak
in public, there's a clear delineation from social interactions and
the way that he approaches conversations and how he responds
to question. I'm not going to make accusations on a
man's personal life. But from what I can see, Daniel
Dubaugh does seem to struggle with a lot of social interactions.

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So knowing that and the fact that he has not
been formally schooled, that he's schooled by his father, protected
by his father, raised by his father, why on God's
green earth would his father or anybody on their team
think that this is a good idea to have. Well,
as again, you'll see here dozens upon dozens of people
just around Daniel at his house with music blaring, people

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having drinks. It's a party. It is a party. And
I know what Don Charles got on talkSPORT yesterday and
said it was a gathering, not a party. Bullshit. A
bunch of people that had no business being at that house,
by the way, a bunch of people that Daniel Dubas
didn't even seem to know as according to Actually the
report was done by The Times. I apologize as I'm
going to read an excerpt here from this article. It

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states a few hours earlier in the opposing locker room,
the contrast could hardly have been starker. Danie Dubois had
not arrived to Wembley until eight twenty pm on Saturday,
less than ninety minutes before he was due to make
his ring walk. Again, We'll get to the party, but
just the interlude to that. You have an hour and
a half before you're about to make your walk. And

(23:28):
I'm not saying you have to be at the venue
all day, but every sports event I've ever been at,
I'm not there an hour and a half before the
game starts, because that's usually when we're about to let
the fans in. You know, the people that are gonna
sit there and watch you do your thing, not the
people that are going to actually go and fight each other.
The warm up, the acclamation process, being there grounded with

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your team, the warm up, everything needs to be planned out,
and it's not usually planned out for you to get there.
Try to warm up and then make your walk, all
in the matter of ninety minutes before you're about to
do it. That point of consternation gave way to a
mad cap fight day when Stanley hosted a party for
dozens of his friends. Notice Stanley Dua's dad hosted a

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party for dozens of his friend at the family mansion
in Essex, where Daniel still lives. In the afternoon source
claims Dubois a reclusive character despite the spotlight of the
profession his father guided him toward, did not know all
of the guests well, and left at one stage for
a drive. So let me get this straight. The father

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that puts so much important into teaching discipline to his son,
so much importance into keeping him away from the public,
guys so much important into controlling every aspect of his life.
I mean, from what everything I've been reading here seems,
decides to put his son, who is clearly not great
again in social interactions around the father's friends, not even

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the son's friends, to the point where Daniel himself gets
so uncomfortable on the day of his fight with so
many people around that he has to get in the
car and drive around just to get away from that
and keep himself locked in or keep his mind at ease.
We thought that was a winning strategy. And before the
people start in the comments section or wherever telling me

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they did this for the AJ fight, Wade, I heard that.
I heard that story when this started coming out, that
this is what they did for the AJ fight. And
you don't rock the boat if it's working. I'm sorry.
Exceptions do not make the rule just because here chaos happens,
and Daniel is such a good boxer and rose to
the occasion when the AJ fight happened, and despite all
of these things, these weirdo distractions that no one in

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his position should be subjected to, especially with his demeanor
and his personality, despite all of that, he's able to succeed.
Doesn't mean that's a formula for success. It means that
Daniel Dubois on that night against AJ was great in
spite of all the bullshit that happened to him, either
the week of or daye because I heard that from
Don Charles on Talksports today talking about well if it

(26:03):
ain't broke, don't fix it, or that's the same formula
we've been using and not saying this for everybody, but
it works for us. Clearly, Yeah, clearly works because he
won the AJA fight. Absolutely moronic to think that's the
formula for success. I'm just I'm fired up because it
frustrates me. Clearly, Daniel's dad has an important role in
this entire thing, because he's put himself in control of

(26:25):
everything and decides to, I don't know, do whatever this
is on the day of his son's fight, knowing it's
the biggest fight of his life. It's just mind boggling
to me that this can happen Daniel du Watts any professional.
But we're not done yet, let's keep going. The source
claims their departure was delayed after Stanley requested extra people
carriers to bring his entourage to the venue. He then

(26:47):
drove Daniel to the venue himself, which caused another administrative
issue as only the designated vehicles had been accredited. They
then walked to the stadium entrance on foot from the
car park, but a video clip shows Stanley calling Daniel
towards the door after security attempted to prevent some of
his friends from entering. The source alleges Stanley essentially told

(27:09):
them Daniel would not proceed without them. Again, this is
just a one side source claiming this, But it doesn't
seem like there'd be a need to lie about something
like this, And there's pretty excruciating detail for someone to
lie about. But not only does Daniel's dad stage a
party hours before, not like in the morning, Hey, everybody,

(27:31):
thanks for coming up hours before the fight is meant
to be scheduled. In an environment, Daniel is so unfamiliar
with and he's clearly not comfortable in to the point
where Daniel himself asks his father to leave and drive
around for a bit. Then they come back. They're further
delayed because Stanley needs his entire entourage, again not Daniel's entourage,
not the actual world champions entourage. The dad of the

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world champion needs his entourage to be escorted to the
venue by the service vehicles that are supposed to escort
Daniel Duboi to the venue. All controlling takes Daniel duboah
to the venue, just him and Daniel a part like
where the fans park and walk to the front door
of the stadium, and then Daniel is going to get
finally in his dressing room, and he's called back to

(28:12):
the front by his dad so that his dad can
essentially tell the people work in the gate. But if
they don't let this entourage of Daniel's dad in that
Daniel Dubois himself will not be fighting on the night.
Excuse me, what an absolute load of shit. I don't
have any words for how nonsensical, selfish and ego driven

(28:33):
s Daniel d what Staniel, That's what I called him,
because it's midnight. Here, Stanley Duboi is in this situation,
making it all about him when his son all the
things he taught his son, all the things they sacrifice,
all the things Daniel sacrificed and listen to his father
for throughout his life to get to that point, trusting

(28:54):
his father and his father putting him in the worst
position possible on the day he's supposed to go and fight.
And yes, I'm making a big deal about this, and
again I don't think that it ultimately would have changed
what Usik was going to do to Daniel Dubois on
Saturday night, because Usick is an all time great. Just
like I said in my video a couple of days ago,
Daniel Dubois started the fight, Okay, did what I think

(29:17):
he was supposed to do, to try to at least
mix this fight up a little bit and have some
modicum of success. The problem is it didn't matter. It
didn't matter what Daniel Dubis did on that night. Usick
is just better in every aspect of fighting. It's user
he beats everyone. But it's not even about that. It's
about the preparation. It's about the mindset of the people

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around Daniel Dubois that allowed this kind of stuff to
happen to not put him in the best position possible
his mindset in just the scheduling and all these external
things happening that he either has to deal with or
he's part of, or he's trying to get away from. Again,
I hate doing this because I've only I don't I'm
not a world champion fighter. I never will be to
have an experience and on that level, and I don't

(29:59):
under stand any up to that degree. But even me,
one little fight that I've had and it was on misfit,
my coach bj Flores, my best friend since and my
cutman Jacob Chavez, even my girlfriend, my mother would not
allow me when I was in Manchester be putting in
an environment that I was not familiar with, wasn't comfortable in,
was gonna put more stress on me before I even fought.

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Anything that happened to me during fight week was handled
by my team and it wasn't even brought to me.
All it was for me to do is to be
there for my training sessions, be there for my weight cut,
and be there ready to go in the positions I
need to. I definitely wasn't driven to the venue by
my coach. We were taken in the vans and the
places and the things that were provided from misfits from
the zone to make sure things ran in an orderly fashion.

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And guess what I could focus on my fight, and
that's at the influencer boxing level, not the undisputed heavyweight
championship of the world. That's utterly ridiculous. Where Daniel du
Watt is currently to me is a struggle between whether
he wants to box for him or he wants to
be world champion for him him, whether he still enjoys
and loves this sport, or whether he's doing what his

(31:03):
father is telling him to do, because that is what
has always been and his goal has been his father's
goal for him, because that was what's always been. And
I think Tony Bellue said it best, and we're going
to play his excerpt here from talkSPORT when he talked
about Daniel Dubois and what happened after the second Usik knockdown. Listen,
he took two big time shots back to back in

(31:24):
that same round, and it didn't look good for Daniel Dubois.
I mean, I don't know how many times that you
know people that are saying he quit, how many times
it would take for them to feel like the fight
was over because he was getting battered, the mouthpiece came out,
he got tagged with the left hand, so and yeah,
and most of them are pro boxer saying this, so
I'll take their word for it. But the point I'm
trying to make is regardless whether you think he quit

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or had more in the tank and just didn't want
to get up, the question I want to ask is
why and what's next? Here's Tony Bellue.

Speaker 2 (31:51):
I feel so starty for Daniel because I just think
he's allowed to show regimens it in his ways.

Speaker 3 (31:57):
He gets into fan tough, the shape.

Speaker 2 (31:59):
He's a proper machine, guys, and he's had he's had
a really good career.

Speaker 4 (32:03):
But I just think the question needs to be asked,
why are you what? Who are you boxing for? Why
are you doing this? And is it to impress someone?
Is it to get on the on the good sides?
I don't know what it is because he ain't fighting
for money, guys. The boys financially security, financials secured a
long time. I hope, to be totally honest, and I

(32:24):
know that matter fact.

Speaker 3 (32:25):
So you have to ask why is it?

Speaker 2 (32:27):
Because when he gets into these really hard moments in fights,
that's when the real Daniel comes out, and the real
Daniel doesn't want to fight.

Speaker 1 (32:36):
That's when the real Daniel comes out and the real
Daniel doesn't want to fight. I don't know how much
Tony Bellue is close with Daniel. I'm not sure. And
he has had some really tough moments, the Duoir first fight,
the Joe Joyce fight, this fight, but then he's also
had tough moments. He's come through, right, He's come through
some tough moments in his career, notably the the AJ fight.
Even though he was winning that fight, he had moment,
a moment there where AJ could have turned the tide

(32:58):
and Daniel said no. I guess that leads me back.
As a point of this entire video is that Daniel
Dubois in this situation has to make a decision. And honestly,
Daniel dubi right now needs to be an adult. He
is twenty seven years old, and I understand the dynamic
is not a normal one with him and his father
and his career and his upbringing and everything. But he

(33:18):
needs to decide what it is he wants, right because
Daniel Duoaugh has some physical gifts, and he's twenty seven
years old and he's still you know, hasn't maybe even
hit his prime as a heavyweight boxer. Still can take
this loss. And I've been a big proponent of the
o doesn't meet as much as you guys think can
be a very very good heavyweight boxer. There's still so

(33:40):
many good fights out there for but he has to
want to do it. And honestly, you know, from the
outsider perspective, this is easy for me to say, but
he has to grow up a little bit because I
do fully blame his father for the decisions his father
made on fight day, the party getting to the venue,
the driving there, the trying to threaten security with my
son's not going to fight tonight, that the trying to

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coach over Don Charles in the corner, just a pure chaos,
an ego trip of whatever this has been for how
long it's been going on. I say it's the AJ fight,
maybe it's even before that, but this clearly doesn't work
and why would it. It's absolute nonsense to think that
that kind of chaos on fight day, let alone what's
going on before fight day. This is just the day

(34:21):
of that doesn't work. Daniel Dubois he needs to in
this moment, and he probably should have then put his
foot down as a grown man and say, dad, this
is not your career. It's because it's pretty clear to
me Stanley Dubois is living vicariously through his son, having
parties on behalf of his son before the son even
goes and accomplishes the goal. Because look look what I created.

(34:43):
He's right there. Look what I did. I made this. No,
Daniel Dubois made him what he is, and you know,
Duba put that work in. And I'm not trying to
take anything away personally from Daniel's dad and the situation
and again the love they have and the relationship and
all of that. I'm sure Niel's dad is a fantastic
dad and raised him to be a great man and

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all of that. There comes a time where you have
to separate family from business. When the family is intruding,
is hampering, is potentially ruining what you can do in
your professional life and may lead into your personal life.
We've seen it in boxing so many times. It just
doesn't work. The father son thing. It just doesn't because
eventually it becomes more about me, me, me, and look

(35:25):
what I created? You than you? You you? This is
your time. So I guess that's where I'm gonna end
this video. Daniel Dubois got to grow up. He's twenty
seven years old. There's nothing wrong with still living at
home with your parents if that's your family dynamic. There's
nothing wrong with having your dad be a part of
your business. But even with all of that, there has
to be a level of understanding for Daniel. That means
standing up and saying, this is my operation. If you

(35:47):
want to be a part of it, You're going to
do things my way, my career, my livelihood, my decision.
That means a decision time. So what will Daniel do next?
I don't have those answers. Just had rant on the
entire Daniel Dubass situation because it's sad because Daniel doesn't
need to be dealing with any of this. Really just
lost the biggest fight of his life. He needs to
be able to regroup and get his mind back together

(36:09):
and get back to whatever it is he wants to do.
If he wants to be a top level heavyweight, then
get back to that. Who knows what could happen down
the line. I assume Usik's gonna beat Joseph Parker. Gava
Joseph Parker fight. Kybiel sits there. Hell Moses the Toma
was gonna make his way up to the top parts
of heavyweight soon. Daniel'll be there, hopeful if he makes
the right decisions, rows up a little bit, and treats
his career like it's his and not his daddy. That's

(36:32):
what I got to say. Appreciate you guys for watching
what happens next with Daniel Dubois. I don't have those answers,
but I guess we'll find out. All right, So we
are back on the way concept presented by the Ring.
I'm so excited for this video today. I don't even
gonna waste time. Misfits twenty two press conference and first
kind of meeting between all of the big names on
this card went down today. If you guys didn't know,

(36:54):
I'm also back on Misfits. I'll be commentating this card
on August thirtieth. This feel like Misfits is back, and
I know we say that a lot, but this one
really feels that way. I'm coming back to the commentay.
We have Darren til Luke Rockold in the main event.
We have Tony ferguson It's Tony time versus Sault Poppy
and the comane. We have Dylan Dennis, probably the most

(37:14):
hated man in combat sports on this car. This one
feels special and this press conference did not disappoint. No
more wasted time. Let's get into it. What just happened
Misfits twenty two presser. What's probably one of the more
entertaining ones I've seen in a long time. What do
I mean to break down? Let's go.

Speaker 5 (37:35):
Welcome everybody to London, to Glazius whole. This is a
really really interesting.

Speaker 1 (37:40):
Oh shit, we got Dan Hardy leading the presser again.
Great move from Misfits. You know what they're doing. They're
doing and I don't. This is not a comparison, but
this is a good thing. They are garnering the eyes
of the MMA scene. We get three of the four
guys in the main and comine event of this car,
darent Tel, Luke Rockold and Tony fergus Legends or at

(38:01):
least big names in MMA. Elln Dani's not at this
press conference. We'll be on this car.

Speaker 5 (38:05):
Welcome New Maro, New Marrow.

Speaker 1 (38:11):
Let's go and we have Numero's opponent.

Speaker 5 (38:13):
I can't believe I'm saying this. Joey Essex in the house.
Look at an incredible shape already.

Speaker 1 (38:21):
See this is the thing. Joey Essex does have a
pretty big fan base in the UK. Listen, I don't
understand Love Island. I've never watched this show. My girlfriend
loves it. Apparently the UK loves it. Hell, even the
US now loves this show and the people that are
on it have massive followings. I mean, the only thing
I can compare it to is like reality TV in
the early two thousands here in the US, with like
Jersey Shore and you know whatever else the real world.

(38:44):
But this guy has got a big follow it. This
is what you do. This is what influencer crossover boxing
should be. You have MMA fighters grabbing that fan base.
You have Newmerow who's a big time Portuguese influencer, and
then you have maybe not on the YouTube influencer side,
but the reality TV show all on one card brilliant.

Speaker 5 (39:01):
So Salt Poppy awesome. Really looking forward.

Speaker 1 (39:04):
To this fight, Yeah, man, Salt Poppy.

Speaker 5 (39:10):
And UFC Royalty Interim light like lightweight Champion of the World,
El KAKUI Tony Ferguson.

Speaker 1 (39:16):
In the house.

Speaker 3 (39:20):
This season.

Speaker 1 (39:22):
It's a man right there? No, no, no, you know Dan
Hardy is so pumped to see Tony. Listen, there's two
ways that this thing's gonna go. Like, there is a
real opportunity for Salt Poppy to bury Tony Ferguson here
and make an aim off of him. But again, as
bad as Tony has looked in the UFC, we really
don't know what it looks like to him when he
comes to boxing. I don't think it's gonna be much different.
Maybe it is, and maybe I'm the one being a hater.

(39:44):
I'm not trying to say I don't believe in Tony.
It's just when you see something, reality has to set
in and your eyes aren't lying to you when you
watch Tony fight. But if Tony is able to turn
back the clock, then good for him. And this is
an opportunity for him to create a second life in
his combat sports career. Right, I mean he is now,
I think he's forty or forty one. But you've seen
people leave the UFC and have good careers after it, right,

(40:05):
You've seen that with Mike Perry. You see it with
Darren Till. You see it would Ben Roth, well, you
see it with some of these other guys that have
flourished outside of the UFC, mostly in bare knuckle. But
we'll see if Tony can do it in boxing.

Speaker 5 (40:16):
The main event, Luke Rockold, Darren Zill, Welcome the both.
A bunch of the stage.

Speaker 1 (40:21):
Luke Rockold first, Luke Rock Cold. Oh my god, he's
got the blood hair. I know Darren Till is about
to let off shots at this man.

Speaker 5 (40:35):
Who do I start with? Who do I start with?
Tony Ferguson. That's why I'm starting with Tony. Talk to
me about this process of getting off of the fight
a boxing match, accepting it, and then finding out who
the opponent is.

Speaker 6 (40:46):
Always one of the box wasn't allowed to box. Pop said,
you're gonna find a sport and he's gonna take you
into college because I'm not paying for that shit. So
all jokes aside. I've been hitting the speedback since I
was fifteen and one in the box for a very
long time. I grew up wearing wrestling shoes and now
I fought for a long time MMA without wrestling shoes,
and everybody wanted them to take me down, always been

(41:07):
a multi sport athlete, and this is another way for
me to be able to go out there and test
my athleticism against another person who's game to be able
to sign on the dotted line. So much appreciate on
that one for me to be able to go out
and or in this victory.

Speaker 1 (41:19):
Salt Poppy of colose chas I he they fucking love
here and Tony talk dude. Sometimes the story gets convoluted
and it goes to different places, but you could tell
he's so dead serious and locked him when it comes
to fighting, and it is a good point, like he
hasn't fought in shoes for forever. He'll be able to,
you know, fight and shoes now in boxing. But let's
see how the actual skills translate. We've seen Tony for years,

(41:40):
you know, practicing wind shun and yeah even some boxing
by itself and wrestling on the side, but let's see
how specifically boxing because listen, as much assault Poppy as
a TikToker, an influencer, dangerous and he's been training him
specifically boxing for at least the last six to seven years,
some rumor before that maybe, but still he's a dayous dude,
I don't care what you've seen on TikTok or whatever.

(42:04):
Is a real dangerous fight for Tony and a massive
opportunity for Salt Poppy.

Speaker 5 (42:07):
It must be a bit surreal for you. Must have
sat and watched Tony Ferguson spinning elbows taking people's heads off.
What's it feel like to now be lined up to
fight him?

Speaker 7 (42:16):
I mean, the first thing, I want to thank God.
I want to think the media, everyone that came to support.
I want to think Misfit Boxing Cass for giving me
this opportunity, and also Tony for accepting the fight. It's
a very opportunity for me to showcase my skills, and yeah,
it's gonna be a hell of a fight.

Speaker 6 (42:33):
August thirty eth tune in.

Speaker 5 (42:35):
Tune in, Yeah, tune in August thirtieth. All right, next up, Numero.

Speaker 1 (42:39):
So we weren't He didn't think that we were going
to get a back and forth between Tony and Salt Poppy.
I didn't expect that out of this press conference. It's
more so just Tony being there. That's the surreal, kind
of like holy shit factor of this. So that's about
what I thought we'd get. It's a respectful, salt, Poppy
and Tony just outlining what it is he's there to do.

Speaker 8 (42:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (42:58):
First of all, I want to thank everyone for being here,
and I want to show huge respect for everyone that's
gonna step in the ring. I'm excited to fight Joey.
I heard his in uh is he has family in
the in the in boxing, and I think you should
take your glasses off and let us see your eyes.

Speaker 10 (43:14):
I'll take him off when I want to take him off.

Speaker 1 (43:16):
Money.

Speaker 9 (43:16):
Okay, can you do it now? Because if you're gonna
if you're gonna wear glasses for a couple of bruises.

Speaker 3 (43:21):
You might need a like a welding gum on the
top of the fight.

Speaker 11 (43:23):
Whoo.

Speaker 1 (43:26):
Okay, First off, new Marrow speaking English. We applaud that
for the English fans, for the people that are watching Misfits,
and obviously he's got his massive Portuguese fan base. But
one of the things that was always tough about, like
you know, Winterson Nonez for example, he didn't speak English,
so you couldn't get a lot of back and forth
out of him. Newmero speaks English and he's telling Joey

(43:47):
take those stupid ass glasses off because if you're scared
of a little bruises. That's why you're wearing the glasses. Now.
You might need a welding helmet after I'm done with you.

Speaker 3 (43:57):
That's it.

Speaker 9 (43:57):
But I'm very excited to fight Joey and I'm here
to represent my entry Portugal.

Speaker 3 (44:00):
Seems like you're shitting yourself.

Speaker 1 (44:01):
Mane what.

Speaker 9 (44:04):
Yeah, it's not my main language.

Speaker 8 (44:06):
Relax.

Speaker 9 (44:06):
Yeah, I think it should relax because this is not
love violent, this is boxing over.

Speaker 8 (44:11):
I'm chilling, bro.

Speaker 1 (44:13):
Oh, hold on a second, Hold on a second.

Speaker 8 (44:15):
Now.

Speaker 1 (44:15):
Granted, people wear sunglasses inside all the time in combat sports,
but it looks so like it's pretty clear that Joey
Essex has got some some bruising going on.

Speaker 8 (44:25):
I like it.

Speaker 1 (44:25):
Back and forth, I like it.

Speaker 5 (44:28):
Hey, Joey, I was watching you backstage before you got changed.

Speaker 1 (44:31):
Okay, let's see feeling.

Speaker 5 (44:33):
Lively right now? Man, come on, what's the feeling ahead
of this? You said you feel like you've got inside
his head already. You feel like you're gonna be able
to have his number.

Speaker 8 (44:41):
You know what, I didn't realize it take this quick
for him a crack.

Speaker 1 (44:45):
Oh my god, he's gotten tuned up a little bit.
Now again, you can look at this a couple of
different ways. He's committed, he's locked in and you know
he's going through the rounds. He's doing the hard sparring.
He's getting himself prepared. But uh yeah, there was look fresh.
I mean that could be stuff from today, to be
honest with you, because it's not. It's not like black

(45:05):
and Blue yet, but it's definitely his eyes are puffed out,
So take it how you want to receive it. Pause.
But Joe Yes is doing some hards borrowing. You can tell.

Speaker 10 (45:14):
I'm excited, and uh yeah, this is We'll see what happens.
But yeah, keep talking what he wants to say in it.

Speaker 5 (45:22):
Get fire already. All right, let's go to the main event.
So Luke into boxing against darre Until, someone that you
fight as a mixed martial artist. Did you watch his
four into boxing? Were you impressed with his hands?

Speaker 3 (45:36):
I haven't pay attention to the kid.

Speaker 8 (45:38):
He's he's done, all right.

Speaker 1 (45:40):
Yes, dude, Okay, Lucas already coming with that like little
bro attitude toward Darren Till And Luke is known for
kind of doing this, especially in his MMA days. He
would ego a lot of guys like hey, listen, this
kid is not on my level. Da da da. That's
kind of how he approached fights until the second Bisbee
fight or thing has kind of changed. And he did

(46:01):
that to Bisming too. But I can just see it
the way he's like smirking and stuff. This is Luke's game.
I love it.

Speaker 12 (46:08):
He's always got his mouth open and his chin in
the air.

Speaker 8 (46:11):
But you.

Speaker 12 (46:14):
Haven't shut your fucking mess up and wait your turn, mate.

Speaker 1 (46:18):
Oh my god, he even added the mate on the Okay,
Luke been taking some trash talking, you know, some trash
talking lessons.

Speaker 3 (46:28):
Patty, Patty, little boom Petty.

Speaker 12 (46:32):
Darren stepped away, he ran away from the game. Uh
and and he you got fat, and now you've.

Speaker 3 (46:38):
Come to my game. You showed me a couple.

Speaker 12 (46:44):
I know, fought a couple of bums and you got
a little confidence. But I'm gonna I'm gonna bring you
back down to earth.

Speaker 13 (46:49):
Mate, No, you need to come back to the ant
the biggest ego in THEO.

Speaker 1 (46:52):
See what I'm saying. This is what I'm talking about again.
Darren came through m M a like right after Luke
had been a champion at eighty five and had you know,
at one point looked unstoppable as a champion. People forget
man uh Luke Krocko at one point was a monster
at one hundred and eighty five pounds and really no

(47:12):
one had the answer for him. Heaking one armed guillotine
Bisbee at a certain point. And then you know after
that that short notice fight Verus Bisbee where he was
just you know, I'm king shit, this guy don't even
deserve to be in the octagon, and Bisbee knocked him
out and changed a little bit. But yes, this is
what I was talking about. Luke's got a bit of
a you know, he's he's cocky, he's brash. There' nothing
wrong with it, you know what I'm saying. He used

(47:33):
to be able to back it up even still. You
know he that Paulo Costa fight. He was in there swinging.
He goes and does bare knuckle against Mike Perry, which
Dark Till is calling a boom. But that's that's a
good read from Darren. This is the kind of how
Luke operates.

Speaker 3 (47:46):
Well, do you want to vote? Maybe just not this?

Speaker 13 (47:47):
Also, Stairs, Hey, you cant shot to me because Petty's.

Speaker 3 (47:50):
A boom and you bucked. I would like to fuck
with him?

Speaker 13 (47:53):
Oh even shot right now? Are you all talk talk
and fought this time? Just a think you just thought
about the muscles length, Luke, you.

Speaker 8 (47:59):
Know it's you five.

Speaker 14 (48:01):
I can.

Speaker 3 (48:04):
Doubt yourself with me.

Speaker 15 (48:05):
You you're studying every fucking move I made before, every everything,
everything you've been asking every I know who you are.

Speaker 8 (48:17):
I can see you are you don't.

Speaker 16 (48:18):
We don't even need to set the same time you on?

Speaker 1 (48:21):
You are you? Won't you hear what Darren said to him.
He said, I've already psychologically destroyed you. You're already doubting yourself.
Very interesting. The mind games have already started between these two.

Speaker 3 (48:31):
It's the limit you'll you'll cast steward limit. Have you
seen that to shoot the bowl? That that you keep
your chin?

Speaker 5 (48:41):
Things?

Speaker 3 (48:45):
By seventy pounds.

Speaker 1 (48:47):
Luke's making a decent point about Darren getting knocked out
by Jorge Mosbittal. Although Darren should not have been at
seventy when he was doing that, it was it looked
like a brutal weight cut. But Darren says, I'm gonna
take three things from you, your pride, your ego, and
your chin after this fight. This is this is nice
back and forth but Darren calling Luke rock old chinney,
I mean he got dropped by Bisbee, got dropped by

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Yon Blojovich. Obviously, the Mike Perry bare knuckle I really
look at that bare knuckle thing as it's completely different.
There's no padding on those hands. I think anybody can
get hurt and clipped and rocked in in bare knuckle,
which is what makes Mike Perry the king of the
bare knuckle right. He was not technically, stylistically a good
boxer stand up fighter at the highest level of m
m A. And obviously when he came over to boxing,

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Jake Paul messed him up as well. But in bare
knuckle you can even the playing field by being a
little tougher and just having a chin. And that's kind
of how he beat Luke. Luke Henden with some big
time stuff in that fight, and he just walked through
it all.

Speaker 3 (49:41):
You, Patty was a one fifty five and bit of mind.

Speaker 13 (49:46):
Patty's a bull, Patty's just a crop talking about boxing
panels A.

Speaker 11 (49:53):
Difference made again, mate, many times between put it on you,
you ship yourself.

Speaker 13 (50:03):
You bucked out and you've got a knock of doing that.
You bought out the fights, and I tell you what
and how much you love yourself? If you would have
bought a chocolate you eat yourself.

Speaker 8 (50:13):
Makes are you joking hey?

Speaker 1 (50:15):
Like you are like.

Speaker 3 (50:18):
In the martin California. You're up to I've got.

Speaker 16 (50:20):
Nothing else to do with Footbok saying what about you seem.

Speaker 3 (50:23):
To believe I'm not I'm not working for this man.
No one know you're wait putting the working And are
you under five?

Speaker 16 (50:29):
Like you're waking butt your body shutting down.

Speaker 3 (50:31):
I'm hitty to thirty six.

Speaker 16 (50:34):
How we've got a bit of belluy on me.

Speaker 3 (50:36):
You should want to lifestyle, that's a lifestyle. Lifestyle, your lifestyle.
You'll want the bull.

Speaker 1 (50:42):
How you do? Darren is so wound up he has
wound up up. Either two things are happening. Darren is
just fired up to beat Luke and he feels like
again this is his moment he is coming into his
own and misfits or you know this is I mean
he was he was fired up about the Tommy Fury
fighting kind of acted the same way. But the other
side of it is, you know, I don't know, maybe

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there is some apprehension about fighting Luke. I'm not sure.
I tend to look at it and think there and
just fired the up to go and beat up Luke Rockle.
I don't think it'll be that easy, especially from what
I'm hearing. Listen, Luke is training out here in Orange County.
I'm actually going trying to get a training session with
him in a couple of days. You guys might see
that video next week. I'm gonna see firsthand how good
Luke looks right now. And I already know what I
get from there until I got to see it firsthand

(51:24):
when I was on his card, and I got to
see it the next time out, like they're in his
transition to boxing very well. Luke never a great boxer,
so there's gonna be a lot of ground to make up.
But it's back and forth. He said, you're thirty two
going on fifty. There's like, why, well, because I got
a little fight on me. It's a terrible scowlzer. But
I'm trying, and you'll.

Speaker 13 (51:42):
Applied, and it's gonna get your heart your.

Speaker 16 (51:47):
I know you might, but you're over there like giving
me all kinds of.

Speaker 3 (51:50):
Shit that I can't fight.

Speaker 16 (51:52):
I prompt Luke, Listen, I'm gonna beliterate you on the
tanted and you know it.

Speaker 8 (51:57):
I seen it.

Speaker 13 (51:58):
But yeah, you're comfort. I'm gonna walk I'm gonna walk out.
You were calling people from my home like fu, I
need I need people.

Speaker 12 (52:05):
I'm calling you everybody, trying to figure out everything you
can to build your comfort.

Speaker 3 (52:11):
I want to put you down.

Speaker 13 (52:12):
You don't lift this lifestyle. You skateboarding in California. How
you keep building the lady? But then again with the ladies,
you're not even.

Speaker 3 (52:22):
Like she's off it.

Speaker 14 (52:23):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (52:24):
Oh my god, there is going crazy. Darren Till is
soul reading Luke Rockold right now. He said, listen, you
say I don't live this lifestyle. You're out there skateboarding
in California, which I don't know that he's doing that,
but he's trying to hit some like actual personal points.
He's like, yeah, all you care about is how you look.
You're calling people back home worried. And then Luke tells
him like, oh, yeah, well you're trying to find out

(52:46):
what I'm doing. He's like, damn right I am. And
I wouldn't doubt Now I don't know anything, but I
wouldn't doubt that Darren Till would have some people he's
close to that are training around or alongside Luke rock Hold,
because I'm Zatcha Mayav is out here in Orange County
training in the same gym as Luke Rockold is. Right now,
not to say that Hamza would be like telling or whatever,
but him and Darren have a great relationship and they

(53:07):
always have since Darren went out and trained with Hamzon.
He cornered Hamzon in one of his fights, just saying
Darren knows people and knows what's going on, probably because
he's good friends with all the people that are training
with loose. Very interesting and then, by the way, the
most under the radar shot that was just thrown there.
He was like, yeah, you're doing it for the ladies. Yeah,
you're doing it for the ladies. And then he says,

(53:28):
he says, well, maybe you don't have his great as
success with the ladies because we see what you did
to Demi Lovado tour right up, Bluke fight back.

Speaker 16 (53:37):
Well, Luke Louke, Hey, you run particular ladies, particular ladies.

Speaker 3 (53:44):
How's your lady in Brazil by ladies? Fantastic lets Taylo
This is.

Speaker 1 (53:50):
I was a good one from Luke. There you go.
He said, how's your lady in Brazil? Dar Until I
don't know if they were ever like Mary whatever, had
a girlfriend in Brazil, had a daughter, I think with
this girl, and had her tattooed on his arm for
the longest time. All this is so good, and then
a couple of years ago he got it tattooed over

(54:11):
with a gorilla Look, he got a gorilla face tattooed
over the girlfriend in Brazil, and he just showed it
to Luca said, there is say hi to her.

Speaker 13 (54:23):
This is my past confidence. Heys, I was my doddy
for the Tony Past conference. Now I'm the doddy three
main events. Look at because we're winning partnership me case I,
Mom's what what's up?

Speaker 8 (54:36):
Group? Let's get this fucking soft Lukova cold on.

Speaker 1 (54:40):
Well, Colin kiss your Daddy's crazy. I know he's talking
about like, hey, ks I was was the man when
I first came in. Now cass I and I are
in partnership. You know, I'm getting to that level to
come out and be like heyes, I was my daddy.
It's crazy. Darren's on a heater though, Man, he's talking
his ship.

Speaker 13 (54:59):
Well, if stick it on dollars, batter man. You know,
we need to dollars back home and you'll be up
be bity. That's it, that's all about.

Speaker 12 (55:06):
I'll be happy with putting your face down and taking
what's next fight?

Speaker 5 (55:10):
Did you ask for this fight or did with this
fight out?

Speaker 3 (55:13):
I wanted to box.

Speaker 12 (55:14):
Boxing is what I want to do, and obviously they
offered me this, this bare knuckle boxing. Imagine, it's not
what I wanted to do, not what I was interested in,
but it was a nice, nice paycheck and it was
a learning process, and uh, you know, this is this
is what I want to do. I realized it was
a dumb thing. But boxing is something I've done. Boxing
that I've trained, I'm comfortable with. I've been in there
a million times with some of the best guys in
the world, and Darren's about to find out I can box.

Speaker 8 (55:36):
I had no not know you you would go CYC Force.

Speaker 13 (55:39):
I was a young boy watching shick UFC shick like
you're over here giving me all kinds of ship that
I can't fight. I'm one of the best sikes in
the world, Like I'm a look who I fought in
me shake Like you're a great cycle, but look who
I fourth, Like, look at the strikers, because even though
we toppled, he he's just he's a bull on the feet.
He's a bump, just like Patty, so you'll over have disrepted.

(55:59):
But IBus Bet was a fighter. Styke falls and I
was a fan of Recievo all coming in with this
cockey confidence that I'm from kind of the bump because
I've got belly on me.

Speaker 8 (56:08):
Mate, what i can fight, and that's all it is
to me.

Speaker 1 (56:11):
Darren has fired the f up man. This is like,
I think this is Darren wanting not only to prove
to Luke that he is on the same level or
better as a striker as he says, but I think
this is Darren wanting to prove to Darren that he
can take down Like he doesn't look at this as
a boxing match versus Luke Crockold. He looks at this
is a fight versus a former UFC champion, because I
think Darren in his mind still looks at himself as

(56:32):
an MMA fighter even though he's boxing right now, and
anytime he gets to challenge himself versus a guy that
held gold in a promotion that he didn't, this is
a step up to him, right, Darren Stewart was not
a step up. Anthony Taylor not a step up. This
to him is a step up because of Luke's accolades
in the shared sport they had. This is why I
think he's so fired up. Just like when Tommy and

(56:53):
him were gonna fight. It was a step up, right.
It was you know, Manchester versus Liverpool. It was a
bit of a rival, it was a name, it was
those things. You see. Darren fired up so much more
here because he looks at Luke as a step up
and someone to legitimize what he truly is. Where he
couldn't grab gold in the UFC, he still thought of
himself as one of the best in the world. Here's

(57:14):
an opportunity, at least in his mind to prove it.

Speaker 16 (57:16):
So there you go.

Speaker 8 (57:17):
Yeah, silence, thank you, said my piece.

Speaker 5 (57:20):
I'm coming back to the main event, Joey. What's the
pressure going to be like on August thirtieth when you're
walking out first time walking out into an arena with
the gloves laced up? I want you picture it.

Speaker 10 (57:28):
Yeah, of course, man, I can't wait. It's a big
lights to be on me to walk up to the
rout to the ring in just round one. It's just
it's just gonna be game money. So you know, he's
calling on like it's a war, but it's like I
would like to say, it's gonna be an easy night
for him because he obviously had a fight before but
it was useless. But I hope you are training hard,
and I hope you are because I would if I
do knock you down, please get back up, because.

Speaker 9 (57:50):
I wrote I saw a video of your sparring corner event.
I thought you were trying to look better on purpose,
but then after a few more videos I saw that
it was real.

Speaker 3 (57:58):
Yeah I'm a laugh.

Speaker 10 (57:59):
Yeah, obviously man's a professional.

Speaker 9 (58:01):
Yeah yeah, but you're raising your leg up like like
a little bitch brow. That's no way to spar right,
at least face your opponents. It was playing with you,
It wasn't. It was just playing with you and you
were like, cools, bro, he's my very friend.

Speaker 7 (58:13):
Yeah, I know, good to you.

Speaker 10 (58:14):
What you're trying to say that, Oh, I was trying
to say that you're not prepared for this.

Speaker 5 (58:19):
You know when I look at you, what I think
of he is just like a baked bean.

Speaker 3 (58:21):
You just a prop a bean. You look bro, you
were just like one big baked bean. Look at you, Bro'.

Speaker 9 (58:26):
You're sitting out here saying that you always wanted to fight,
your fucking thirty five mate.

Speaker 1 (58:33):
I'm sorry, new Merall's cooking. Maybe I'm I don't know,
but he's cooking him Like okay, Joey's calling him a
baked bean. I don't know what that means, but he's
just sticking it on him. Like you said you you
wanted to fight. You're thirty five. If you wanted to fight,
you would have fought. And Joey's like, yo, you better
get up if I knock you down, and where I
was like, bro, you ain't even fought yet. I hope
you're preparing because when I saw you, Sparre didn't like

(58:54):
you want to any part of a fight. How just
sticking it on him, Darren, you're liking the fight.

Speaker 5 (58:58):
There's some other beef on the stage.

Speaker 3 (59:04):
Luke's not saying other people.

Speaker 5 (59:08):
You were calling people out like you were on social media.
You were asking for people, naming them. No one was
taking it right. When did Luke become an option?

Speaker 8 (59:15):
Well? They nace? Do you have plumb over there?

Speaker 13 (59:19):
Decided to ask me to fight those an Ibita cross
on the aisle and I just come back home. I
was like yeah, and then he just said he doesn't
want to fight because he's an absolute stuffing and then obviously.

Speaker 1 (59:29):
Dude, just the entire sentence there until just said I
want to see if I understood him correctly. He said
Nate Diaz wanted to fight me. I was out in Abitha.
I guess that's Abiza and he said I was a
cross side off the ale. Just the phrases are insane,
and that's when he wanted to fight me because he's
a complete stuff head or stuffing head. I don't know
what the hell these expressions are where they come from

(59:52):
in the UK, but some of them, especially Darren, he's
not using the typical like sausage melt muppet like, he's
using some different one man, this is awesome the fight.

Speaker 13 (01:00:02):
But now Luke's questioned himself if you should have talked
because I want to smoke with you mates.

Speaker 3 (01:00:07):
You know, whatever you want, you can, you could go
back to it and don't forget.

Speaker 13 (01:00:10):
Don't forget what shut the stairs because I've got something
for you. Wo we need that involved please, you know,
but you said to before I don't take any more.
I've never took any What is it? You said, yeah, upstairs,
I don't take it anymore. Then you said, I've never talked.
Tell me what you don't.

Speaker 3 (01:00:29):
Okay, have you taken BPC one seven? No, I haven't.
I think everybody in this fucking rooms taking.

Speaker 1 (01:00:43):
Oh my god, he got caught, all right, So let
me just break this down really quick. Darren till is
telling us that Luke essentially admitted to taking steroids when
they were in some holding room before the press conference
and he kind of fumbled over it by me and well,
I don't take it anymore. Well, no, no, I never
took it. And then Luke responded by saying I took

(01:01:04):
BPC one five seven. BPC one five seven is not
a steroid by the classical term of what a steroid
and anabolic is. But BPC one five seven, I'll show
you guys here is a banned substance and on the
prohibited list or WADA and USADA, and I would assume
that means also for VADA. Now, what BPC one five
seven is is an experimental peptide, so it's not necessarily

(01:01:28):
a steroid. But peptides are all the rage in recovery
and BPC one five seven is used to help and
aid in recovery of tendon muscle damage like things like that.
I mean, you've probably heard it on Joe Rogan's podcast.
You've probably heard a ton of people talk about it.
And I'm gonna be honest, Luke is probably not the
only guy that's ever taken BPC one five to seven,
But that doesn't mean that he's currently on it. He

(01:01:50):
just did a really bad job of explaining when he
was put on the spy here by Darren Till what
it was he was talking about, and why he even
brought that up to Darren in the first place. I
don't understand, because now, regardless of what Luke says, he's
gonna be looked at, especially by Darren, as a cheater,
bad user.

Speaker 3 (01:02:09):
Solfishly he's not taking it. So maybe I should they
get me some fucking juice, Steady.

Speaker 12 (01:02:15):
That's not juicyet dumb fun I don't cook with one
of his, but you old on it.

Speaker 3 (01:02:18):
It's on today. I've loved this way my whole fucking life.

Speaker 1 (01:02:22):
Mate, he keeps doing the Mate. The funniest thing is,
like Luke is just saying it as if it's like
the only way Darren will understand the sentence before he speaks, Like,
Luke thinks that Darren probably can only understand him in
his mind if he says mate after his sentence. That's
what kills me. No accent. He's like, dude, I've look
like this my whole life. Mate, he just keeps doing it.

Speaker 16 (01:02:46):
Are you king?

Speaker 3 (01:02:47):
Because I living life like you.

Speaker 1 (01:02:48):
I've just walked into you.

Speaker 16 (01:02:50):
Get top off, and I said to them I might
pull out of this fight.

Speaker 3 (01:02:56):
Faulty.

Speaker 1 (01:02:58):
I'm not.

Speaker 16 (01:02:58):
I'm not.

Speaker 12 (01:02:59):
I'm not coming here. I'm not coming here to fight
and just to show up the patriot. I'm coming here
to put a stamp on on what I'm doing. And
adding to what I'm doing, I'm like, I'm excited to box.
There's been holes in my game in boxing. Now it's
time to close those holes. It's time to put you
down and time to put you back in line and
teach you a lesson.

Speaker 1 (01:03:14):
This sounds like, oh my god, it does sound like
Darren said. It sounded like a line from an American movie.
I'm gonna put you down. I think sometimes Luke speaks
in action movie sequences. Dude, action movie monologue, Luke, he
kills me.

Speaker 16 (01:03:33):
I put if a corns a chin, you can't stop me.
I can stop your chin.

Speaker 3 (01:03:38):
Hey put you down as he was close.

Speaker 5 (01:03:42):
Give me an assessment of his first box in miche.

Speaker 3 (01:03:44):
I mean he has not changed.

Speaker 12 (01:03:46):
He's he's good if you give him space, no doubt.

Speaker 3 (01:03:49):
His chin's always up.

Speaker 12 (01:03:50):
He comes up high every every chance.

Speaker 3 (01:03:53):
You have no idea how no one's seen me box?
Well this, you've never seen me box. You can only
judge me from what you've seen. Can did you from
m A?

Speaker 16 (01:04:00):
And you haven't been working on the logistics of boxing.

Speaker 12 (01:04:03):
You think I'm not working on thegists' and obviously and
you know not do nothing. Well, you neither boxing every
damn The.

Speaker 13 (01:04:15):
Guys in the gym didn't text me on it to
say you'd mission the you're only doing see why you're
doing so much?

Speaker 1 (01:04:21):
Oh my god, did you hear? So the guys in
the gym are texting me telling me that you're missing
track days, which is a conditioning day. So again I
don't I'm not gonna say it's just ham Zat or
whoever is, because Darren probably knows a ton of the
guys over there. I mean Rampage is over there, Armand's
over there. I'm sure that there's mutual friends in that group,

(01:04:43):
whether it's Tom Zot's team whoever. That Darren knows, and
he said they're texting him telling him what Luke's doing.
He's not even asking for it. That's crazy.

Speaker 16 (01:04:54):
I'm fighting the fort champion off stuking about you.

Speaker 13 (01:04:59):
I'd be a full idiots. Everyone agrees to I have
to study it. I need to know everything about yet.

Speaker 5 (01:05:04):
So what are you expecting from it as a fighter?
What are you expecting from him? Give me a technical
breakdown and.

Speaker 3 (01:05:09):
Then they side of things.

Speaker 13 (01:05:11):
There's a time where I was in my primary was
Luke was a like as world champions champion. But it's
just boxing, and Luke hasn't really been doing boxing. He's
just been finding at Irland in the gym. I know
he has because I've been studying him, because he's.

Speaker 3 (01:05:24):
He's you know, he's still living for wholes, mate?

Speaker 5 (01:05:27):
Have you got spies in yours?

Speaker 1 (01:05:28):
Looking like that?

Speaker 5 (01:05:29):
Though?

Speaker 3 (01:05:29):
We need the way you've died. Have you got you're
a couple of.

Speaker 13 (01:05:35):
The country couple talk you got in your campy talk
right now?

Speaker 5 (01:05:41):
Who's reporting on you? And you can't Luke, who's letting
him know what's going on.

Speaker 12 (01:05:46):
He's working every angle he can't. But I haven't been
ever been training with the boys in a while. I'm
in the boxing gym and men Churchill Boxing. I'm with
Connor Ben's coach, and I'm working every day diligently on
my mechanics of boxing, and I'm boxing some of the
best professional boxes around.

Speaker 1 (01:06:00):
Probably doesn't help Luke. The fact that he just said
he's with Connor beIN's coach and the whole PD thing. Listen,
I love Connor but that it's not an indictment, but
it definitely doesn't look good when you turn around and
say I'm not taken. But I did maybe at some point,
and now I'm with Connor Benz Boxing. But he said okay,
he says Churchill Boxing. I didn't know that Luke was

(01:06:20):
at Churchill Boxing. I had heard that he's at the
Jackson gym, which is a different gym a little closer
to me. But Churchill's a great gym as well. And
you know Connor beIN's coach. I'm not exactly sure which
coach he's referring to, but regardless, Good Jim Good coach,
good environment for Luke, and I'm really am excited to
see what he looks like. Genuinely, I want to see
how Luke looks just boxing, because he's got a good

(01:06:43):
left hand. He's a freak athlete. It's just that we
haven't seen him look technically sound as a boxer really ever.
Right just in the boxing realm, he's been caught with
lead hand hooks from the orthodox position, and I don't
know if that'll be the same kind of downfall when
he fight Daring, because Darren's the south pop but still
overhand left lead hook stuff like that, where Luke does

(01:07:04):
kind of keep his chin in the air and kind
of comes straight back with it. Those things have been
a problem of his, which he's admitting now. So I
think that's good.

Speaker 3 (01:07:11):
Big boys, and I'm putting them on and I'm putting
them down.

Speaker 1 (01:07:14):
I know you do, you.

Speaker 3 (01:07:17):
Have you?

Speaker 8 (01:07:18):
So if I was, I don't release.

Speaker 13 (01:07:20):
I don't release what I do right now thendance of
me and you've been missing.

Speaker 5 (01:07:28):
All right, Let's get some questions from the media.

Speaker 1 (01:07:31):
He's let yo, your whole team is telling on you.
That's crazy. If I'm Luke, I'm cutting some people out
of camp. I'm not gonna lie. They're letting not only
Darren still know what I'm doing, what I'm not doing,
but if they're showing him videos, Oh no, bro, you
got it. You gotta cut ties with some of these.

Speaker 8 (01:07:44):
People every day.

Speaker 13 (01:07:46):
I know that makes I'm on pies and full and spotting,
and I don't want to full and kill you.

Speaker 5 (01:07:50):
That's all right, guys, All right, guys, let's let's get
into the questions from the media. I believe we've got
some questions on the front. Here you go, fire aways.

Speaker 17 (01:08:01):
From miss spots and what press cons I must say,
three years ago you were fighting.

Speaker 5 (01:08:06):
Hello, Ham, Now you're stepping into the ring with Tony Ferguson.
Talk to me about that journey and how you got here.

Speaker 1 (01:08:11):
That's wow. The thing that Bobby three years ago is
fighting a lot, Darren.

Speaker 5 (01:08:16):
Luke's called you soft, He's called you fat. Uh, He's
called you every expletive under the sun today down here. Uh,
But what do you actually think of Luke as a fighter.

Speaker 13 (01:08:27):
No, this is the thing I come with, real honest.
Luke's just saying a lord of mumble jumble, like you know,
this is what I mean. There's what gets Luke in
in trouble is I actually think Luke could have been
a ghost like truly.

Speaker 8 (01:08:39):
But what gets Luke in trouble is his.

Speaker 13 (01:08:41):
Ego is pride al Vane is all that's suffering. When
you put them together, there's a collective psychologically, he fails
at it.

Speaker 8 (01:08:48):
Do you know what I'm saying?

Speaker 13 (01:08:49):
And he knows that's the truth sitting there now, Like
what he done with Bisping, Hey, he was just fucking
smashing big bishping that night. Well to be on miss
being come in and no one was taking that night.
But he's come in lari Da because of his platters.
He felt like Besting shouldn't have been in there with him,
and he got starch because of it.

Speaker 8 (01:09:04):
And that's what lucause he goes too much. You can't
have an ego like this in this game.

Speaker 1 (01:09:10):
Dare until just so read that man, and he's kind
of right at least if you go through Luke Rocold's
kind of downfall in M m A, he's kind of
directly on point with what he's saying, Like every point
he just made is like true, complete fact. If Luke
is still like that and he's come into this press conference,
look Coculus and the kids done well. He's okay, but

(01:09:32):
he hasn't fought anybody, you know, that kind of thing.
It could get him into trouble again.

Speaker 12 (01:09:36):
It's a lot smarter than he looks sometimes, but I
where this is where he correct those wrongs. The boxing
has been my weakest avenue, saying unfortunately, are gonna be
my play?

Speaker 1 (01:09:50):
My play?

Speaker 8 (01:09:50):
Well, I don't think over my big and stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (01:09:54):
Thought gonna be my play? They met to say pray,
But I mean, at least Luke admits it. You know
that He's like, yeah, you I've had some holes and
taking some people lightly, and we're going to fix that. Now.

Speaker 8 (01:10:04):
That's funny.

Speaker 3 (01:10:05):
I mean, oh my life, I swear it's okay.

Speaker 12 (01:10:07):
Hey, you guys were bitching about Wait, what is this
about one eighty five? You look like you're two forty
right now? And then you want to go above one
eighty eight. We're sitting here on one.

Speaker 3 (01:10:16):
Eighty eight for two eighty seven point five and then
we set all one ninety three. No, why are you
Why are you bitching so hard about?

Speaker 8 (01:10:22):
Wait?

Speaker 3 (01:10:22):
Why are we playing this? What you mean bitching?

Speaker 8 (01:10:24):
After my last fight?

Speaker 13 (01:10:24):
I said some miskits I'll fight all the fights now
about eighty seven point five, because my last one was
at ninety one. So if I was pitching about wait
like obviously I'm fighting at ninety one, Like, why would
I be asked about I'm going lower?

Speaker 3 (01:10:34):
What is?

Speaker 12 (01:10:36):
Why can't we just settle on it on a on
a regular way? What you want to settle on one
eighty eight?

Speaker 3 (01:10:40):
What is this one ninety three?

Speaker 12 (01:10:41):
We're now we're one ninety three because my friend waits, Come, It's.

Speaker 13 (01:10:45):
Right, friend, there's nothing act. You've been in the clown,
but in the circus we could do whatever the fuck
we want.

Speaker 16 (01:10:50):
This is the circus, my friend, Like Luke gets a
grips with this.

Speaker 8 (01:10:53):
This is a circus.

Speaker 13 (01:10:55):
This is you know, this is a fucking circus. When
we've got Jake Paul calling out Joshua out when he
so embrace the circus, We'll do any weights.

Speaker 3 (01:11:03):
Embracing any facts.

Speaker 1 (01:11:05):
Dude, that's the stone cold truth. Darren is dropping some
truth bombs in this press conference. It is boxing. Influencer boxing,
even MMA at times is a bit of the circus.
And for whatever reason, there are times where we want
to rise above it. Now again, there's a place in
time for everything, and there's going too far into the circus, right,
and I've had my complaints about that as well. But

(01:11:27):
in the time we're in where Jake Paul is calling
out Anthony Joshua is probably gonna get that fight. Is
there really anything wrong with having fights at a specific weight?
No catchweight fights for stuff like misfits actually kind of
works perfectly because you're not beheld in by a weight division.
One cares if you're fighting it one's seventy five or
two hundred or one sixty eight or once. We don't care.
Just find a weight that both of you like and

(01:11:49):
just go do it, because the fight is what we
care about your weight going into it. We could give
a shit about.

Speaker 5 (01:11:54):
Tony, You and Dinnan danis at both on this card.

Speaker 17 (01:11:56):
If you guys both win your fights, as that potential
fight will see it down the line.

Speaker 1 (01:12:00):
Fred talks fighting, great question, This is the perfect setup
for a Tony Dylan Danna's fight if they both win.

Speaker 6 (01:12:06):
That money talks bullshit walks, So I mean being real,
I'm here to box, So this is the fight that
I'm interested in.

Speaker 3 (01:12:11):
The salt Poppy this dude said he's.

Speaker 6 (01:12:12):
Gonna knock me out, and then now he.

Speaker 3 (01:12:14):
Does want to say it.

Speaker 6 (01:12:16):
As soon as you get somebody in front of you,
it's a little bit harder to take something. So that
pissed me off, and so I know where my energy's
going to go into this camp. So that goes with
anybody fucking talking shit against me.

Speaker 1 (01:12:25):
Woo Okay, Tony get a little spiteful there.

Speaker 14 (01:12:29):
I like it.

Speaker 1 (01:12:30):
The question was would Tony fight Dylan Danis and he
said bullshit, talks and money. I don't know what he said,
but then he kind of turned the question on Salt Poppy.
I didn't know that Salt was saying he was gonna
knock him out.

Speaker 8 (01:12:40):
But I like it.

Speaker 1 (01:12:41):
Take something from it and listen to a lot of people,
myself included, think that Tony could be in real trouble here.
I'm not afraid to say that. I think that it's
a problem fighting Salt Poppy in your first one coming over.
But abe, Tony proves us all wrong. And I know
he feeds on that kind of stuff because he always
has during his career. I respect it feed off at using.
I hope that it gives it some some you know,
advantage in some way, or it brings back a bit

(01:13:03):
of that fire that Tony may have lost in the
UFC whatever it is. But I like that first off
before we do the face offs, I want to say,
great press conference. Way to hype this up. The guys
feel energized, the moment feels like it's right. I just
think it's a great card. That's that's point blank period.
I thought Darren Till owned that press conference. I thought
Luke Rocold had his moments, but uh, I mean, Darren

(01:13:25):
was just on fire today. I thought Tony Ferguson came
across remotivated, reinvigorated. I think Saul Poppy is is He's
never gonna be a guy that talks too much, but
he's confident. And then I like this little rivalry that's
brewing between Numerow and Joey Essex. They are influencers that
get it. I think Numero is doing a little bit
more of the selling. I think Joey Essex has got
a little bit more, you know. To him is like,
oh no, I'm about to come in and smash you up.

(01:13:47):
So let's take a look at their face off first.

Speaker 5 (01:13:49):
The mirror returns.

Speaker 3 (01:13:52):
Eagerly and.

Speaker 7 (01:13:56):
Read good boy, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, yeah, gone,
a good fight.

Speaker 9 (01:14:04):
Shaking already, mate, what's shaking?

Speaker 3 (01:14:07):
Bro, Let's go.

Speaker 9 (01:14:15):
Yeah for this wind night yeah Bill, Bill, Yeah.

Speaker 10 (01:14:22):
Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah, Okay, okay, you shut off, sup.

Speaker 1 (01:14:29):
I like it, man, I like it so new. Mari
told him he was already shaken this one right here.
Keep an eye on it. Good face off. I know
that Charlie is hosting this thing, but they gotta they
gotta lay out when they're doing the face off because
the boys are talking. You can't be talking while the
fighters are talking. There's too much talking.

Speaker 17 (01:14:46):
Being cool, calm and collected, he always will be.

Speaker 5 (01:14:48):
I'll find it, man, Charlie.

Speaker 17 (01:14:49):
This gezer was uploading tiktoks to it.

Speaker 1 (01:14:51):
The running Man now, he said. He throwing sand already.
I was like, nah, I do the salt. I'll leave
the sand, are you legend? He boxing gloves now, so
we won't be able to do it, but we through
saying and justin cagey fight he grabbed it off the
floor and oh my god, the memories.

Speaker 14 (01:15:12):
Man said, like he said on stage, this is what
dreams are made of. You know, Pappy is a very
good boxer. I really thought he had as some amateur
background or box when he was younger. He's adapted to
it like a duck with water.

Speaker 5 (01:15:27):
But there we are. What a fight we have for you.

Speaker 17 (01:15:30):
So exciting to see Tony Ferguson on Misfits against Salt Pappy.

Speaker 5 (01:15:34):
Now to Dan with the next face off.

Speaker 1 (01:15:36):
The face of face off. Here we go, Darren till
here we go main event face off. Well, here we go,
Oh Jesus.

Speaker 5 (01:15:49):
Straight to it, Straight to it.

Speaker 17 (01:15:51):
I think kind of after the press conference there we expected.

Speaker 1 (01:15:53):
That, Oh my god, Luke's kind of bullying them a
little bit. Now again, I don't know if this is
like any indication. Luke just straight I mean, this is
just a string test, right, they're boxing, They're not going
to grapple. Immediately, both guys start grappling and getting colletized,
but Luke just walks through them.

Speaker 5 (01:16:09):
Here the main event I was expecting.

Speaker 1 (01:16:13):
Granted, Darren does have one of the security guards going back,
so I.

Speaker 17 (01:16:17):
Think kind of after the press color die so we
expected that Darrante color tie or head butting Luke.

Speaker 5 (01:16:26):
They're trying to grapple. The next thing we want to
give it to each other.

Speaker 14 (01:16:31):
But when all said and done, is at the end
of this these two personalities look like they could gel
very well. Is so good and that's why we're going
to see a massive fighting with these because.

Speaker 5 (01:16:40):
They both witness styles.

Speaker 17 (01:16:42):
Make fights and I think this one will be an
absolute banger. Darren Till often getting in people's heads. I
must say, Luke does look cool, calm and collective.

Speaker 14 (01:16:50):
Charlie, Yeah, he does, and he has looked at it
since and it's good to sit down until always getting
on This is good.

Speaker 1 (01:17:03):
They're both professionals. They're not gonna swing on each other.
There's just a bit of a you know, I don't
know what you call this, a macho off between the
two of them right there, right again, this mostly happens
in grappling in MMA, they want to get hands on
each other. It is gonna sound super posworthy, but just
stay with me. How are you feeling right now? You
a little soft? Like what's going on? Let me feel
how strong you are? Like this type of push pull

(01:17:26):
stuff happens. And like I said, they're both professionals, they're
not gonna fight right there, but it just gives a
sense of realism. It gives a sense of energy of
fight feel, a big fight feel. This is just a
beginning to the build up for August thirtieth, Ao Arena.
I don't think this first presser could have gone any better.
Darren Til holding court, Dan Hardy being a maestro up there,

(01:17:49):
just zinging questions left and right, controlling the pace of it. KSI,
they're promoting all the big names involved. The energy is back,
Dylan Dannis hasn't even touched down yet. This one, right here, folks,
is gonna be special. Tune in August thirtieth. I will
be there doing some commentary, potentially some other things as well.
We don't even have the full card yet. There's gonna

(01:18:09):
be more fights and now stay tuned. My question out
of here is we finally in this video is what
do you make of this first press conference? Who is
in whose head? Is Darren Hill already soul reading Luke Rockold?
Is Tony Ferguson gonna prove everybody wrong, the one hundred
and ten percent of people that are doubting him doing
Tony math or as Salt Poppy gonna take the next
step and his Misfits journey. Do we have New Marrow

(01:18:32):
as a brand new name in this scene coming in
talking his crazy shit to Joey Essex, Where's Joey Essex's
gonna take Tony Simms's advice and lock in and take
this fight seriously and build his own journey in Misfits.
I don't have any answers yet, but we're just a
month away from the card. Coverage is coming soon. Like
I said, I'm gonna try to get out and train
and do some stuff with Luke Rockoldt, so stay tuned

(01:18:53):
for that. But August thirtieth a Arena Misfits twenty two
Ring of Thrones is the date? Is the time? Is
the place that all these questions will have answers? What
happens then, I guess we'll find out

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