In this weeks WEEK IN REVIEW, Wade gives his thoughts on why Jake Paul Vs Anthony Joshua is most likely happening, how the Eubank Benn rematch will go, and how Tony Ferguson might have already fallen into Salt Papis trap...
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, So we are back on the way concept
presented by the Ring, and today they're actually gonna do this,
aren't they. They really are going to make Jake Paul
versus Anthony Joshua. And it's not just me saying this
as if I want this to happen, because I'm truly
like concerned that Jake Paul is gonna get his actual
head knocked off his shoulders. Now, now, how many people in
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this comments section will be like, why is that a concern? Way,
that's what we want? Well, I think it's probably a
bad precedent, but boxing has already set a ton of
bad precedents, so it may not just be an idea,
it may be reality, and it may be sooner than
you think. What do I mean the breakdown? Let's go,
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all right? So Niki Sabadarian, Jake Paul's manager and the
co founder of MVP, was on Sky Sports in the
UK today talk about a myriad of things, but the
main thing I wanted to cover today is obviously the
Jake Paul Anthony Joshua rumors and now potentially talk going
on for an actual fight. Like there's a difference between
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Jake Paul saying I want to fight Anthony Joshua and
the rest of us kind of being like, uh, all right, bud.
Although I will say I know Jake's delusion, so I
know that when he says it, he actually will fight.
And I think this is the first time and Jake's
boxing career that his delusion will lead him to a
place that's gonna get him seriously injured. Honestly, this is
what I think. I don't understand why they want to
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take this fight. Hopefully Nikisa can try to convince me
is to any reason. I'm out of that sweet sweet
den arrow aka money Akalla dollar bills, y'all. To me,
there is no feasible answer for this, and I think
it's really gonna get Jake hurt. And again, you know
a lot of people will celebrate that, but I just
don't understand it. So let's take a look at what
Nikisa had to say.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
I think the fight can absolutely happen. I'm looking at
it as Jake versus Joshua, which is quite biblical and
it's quite impactful in many ways.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
All Right, So, first off, Nikisa says he looks at
this as Jake versus Joshua, and you know it has
biblical undertones. I don't know the biblical undertones of Jake
versus Joshua. I know Jacob is essentially Israel, I'm pretty
sure in the Bible, or it has something to do
with like the seed of Abraham. I'm not gonna act
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like I'm a biblical historian, but I'm pretty sure I
remember from Sunday School growing up that Jacob is the
name given to I guess what would become Israel, and
then Joshua is like an assistant of Moses who leads
the Israelites at a certain point through Canaan. I think
I could be wrong. Bible knowers let me know down below,
but I'm not sure how if there was ever a
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Jacob versus Joshua thing in the Bible, I know they
both had significance, but I'm not sure the connection there.
But then again, this could just be Nikisa saying Jake
is a side versus Anthony Joshua, and I don't really
know what to make of that. They would be a
massive fight, like if we're talking about who's a bigger
star in boxing. If they do it in the UK,
it's gonna be Anthony Joshua. He is a draw there
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like almost no boxer is here in America. I think
he's sold out ninety thousand a couple times out there.
I don't know, but anyway, we keep going.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
Get Anthony Joshua.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
I think he is twenty eight and four if I'm
not mistaken, and two of his losses are against Alexander Usik.
Usik weighed in at two hundred and twenty pounds for
those fights. Jake is not Usick. A lot more years
of experience needed to get to that level, but Jake
walks around between two eight and two ten, and he
fought Mike Tyson at two hundred and twenty eight pounds,
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So I think size wise we can get comfortable with it.
And I think experience wise, Jake is learning very fast
and growing, and Joshua is a little long in the tooth, So.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
You know, I listen, I'm all for selling it for
your guy. But the reaches here to make any comparison
between Jake Paul and opponent's than Anthony Joshua has had
and also opponents Jake has had, this is like the
Kisa has grown go go gadget arms and he is
stretching to make these reaches. And again it's what he's
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supposed to do. I get it right. If his client says, listen,
I want to fight Anthony Joshua, and the KISA says
that's probably not a good idea, and his client says, no,
I want to fight Anthony Joshua. You're not hearing me.
Make it happen. And there's really nothing that KISA can
do other than this. Do I think that he believes
Jake can win. I don't know. I don't think any
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sane person believes Jake can win this fight. If you
have any frontal cortex brain matter, you probably think Jake
has less than one percent chance of winning this fight.
But at the same time, the kisa's doing what he's
supposed to do now as far as what he's saying.
Jake weighed in at two twenty eight to fight Mike Tyson.
Usik waded around two twenties to fight Anthony Joshua. He said,
Jake is clearly not usick, but he's getting experience and
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Joshua was a little long in the tooth. Number one
Lex under Usa is one of the greatest boxers we've
ever seen. Cruisewade heavyweight two twenty is a little bit
more natural for him at his age to stay at heavyweight,
which is why he's there, but also his ability to
box allows him as an undersized heavyweight in this era.
Hunder in the seventies and the eighties is not an
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undersized heavy one. George Forman in the seventies is two
hundred and twenty something pounds. You know what I'm saying.
Muhammad al Leive was two sixteenth So in those days,
Usik's not undersized. But in the era of the bigger heavyweight,
the two hundred and fifty pound Anthony Joshua, the two
hundred and forty pound uh Daniel Dubois, the two hundred
and ninety pounds almost three hundred pound Tyson Fury, this
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era of heavyweight is bigger in Usik even with those
bigger guys, able to still hurt them because of his
boxing ability, his speed, elusiveness, is footwork, all the things
that Jake just doesn't have, at least not anywhere close
to the level of being competitive with one of the
more athletic heavyweights. While no, he doesn't have the greatest feet,
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but he has well enough feet to hang with Jake
Paul in a boxing ring. We're talking about Anthony Joshua. Here,
we're not talking about random heavyweight. Jake has sparred in
camp to get ready for fifty eight year old Mike Tyson.
And I just have to say this stuff because it's
you know, if the comparisons are going to be made,
I have to point at the holes in the argument
because that I don't even make them, they're just there,
which is that, Yeah, Okay, Jake was two hundred and
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twenty eight pounds for the Mike Tyson fight, but it
was a two minute per round fight and they went
eight rounds. I know that that wasn't because of Jake,
but at the same time, he's not He shouldn't be
at two hundred and twenty eight pounds. Not great for
his body. Not that he can't hold the weight, but
if he's going to try to go long rounds against
a power, punching, way younger, fast, explosive heavyweight, you want
to call Anthony Joshua long in the tooth. Jake was
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trying to hurt Mike Tyson at least early on in
that fight, and he couldn't do it. And that's fifty
eight year old Mike. And I'm not saying that at
a certain point Jake didn't let off the gas or whatever.
But I watched him in those first couple of rounds
and he was throwing haymakers, he was throwing kill shots
at Mike Tyson and he couldn't hurt him. I'm not
saying Jake can't knock people out or whatever he doesn't
have power. I think Jake does have some power. But
this is heavyweight we're talking about, and it's just you know,
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we just watched him fight against uh Julio Sayser Chivez Junior,
and Chavez was protecting himself, clearly did not want to fight.
Apparently he was using it as a way to just
avoid ICE agents for a couple more days that it
turned himself in. But the point I'm making is Jake
can intimidate a guy like Chavez with his size, with
his speed, with his power and make him go, hey,
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you know what, maybe I don't want to fight this
kid and take any risk. Anthony Joshua is used to
fighting the bigger level of heavyweights, and it's fought the
most skilled heavyweight there is and in the second fight
looked a little better than some other guys have against
Usak Nikisa has to say what he has to say
to make this plausible to even talk about doing, let
alone starting to actually build toward the fight. But it's
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just I don't see it.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
Man.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Could be a very interesting matchup, and we're actively discussing
it with Matroum in.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
Terms of those ads a discussion. So how far things progress?
Speaker 5 (07:40):
Is it something that you can see happening next for
Jake and for AJ.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
I think we're looking at it happening in Q one
of twenty twenty six. Is kind of the current discussion.
I think it's public that Aj was taking a little
time away.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
Think you got a little surgery.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
So once he's ready, and once Jake is ready, we're
gonna squarely focus on that.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
This is what I'm talking about, Dude, Like this has
gone past the point of, well, you know, we may
want it to happen. We even had Turkey Alla Shaik
saying listen, I'll make the fight. I'll put the fight
on because Turkey is so invested in it. He's so
sure that Anthony Josh was gonna beat Jake. He called
it a ninety nine percent to one percent fight because
he likes to put on fifty to fifty fights, right,
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fights that people want to see fights that make the
most sense and are the most competitive. He's not even
trying to hide the fact that he thinks this is
a ninety nine to one and he wants it to happen.
So he's done with the Jake Paul problem. That's what
he said. I respect the honesty. And if you're looking
for AJ to have a build up fight, which is
what everybody's saying, fight to kind of get him back
on the horse before potentially finally hopefully going into the
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Tyson Fury fight. Would you rather him fight Tony Yoka
or would you rather him fight an almost guaranteed win
in Jake Paul. I mean again, it's just it boggles
my mind that this can even happen.
Speaker 6 (08:50):
How much of a worry is that we so hated
too and Gannon so.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Power is obviously the last thing to go. So obviously
AJ has a ton of and he's still fairly young.
Mike Tyson much more vicious of a knockout artist than
Anthony Joshua, much older than AJ.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
But that was a risk that Jake was willing to take.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
No, Na, we just can't. We can't do these kind
of comparisons. You just can't Mike was fifty eight years old,
and yes, what Nikisa's saying is true when you add context,
which is in his prime or even fairly in the
back end of his prime and out of his prime,
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like in the part of his life where he was
completely gone from boxing and gone to prison, come back
strung out, out of shape. Mike even then was probably
a naturally harder, vicious, knockout puncher than AJ has continued
to be. But that's not even what Mike is now.
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We're talking twenty five years after that, twenty five years
after the worst parts of Mike Tyson as a professional.
AJ's not even as washed as Mike was at the
end of his career, like Mike was washed wak at
the end of his actual pro boxing run. It I mean,
he wasn't powerful. But the comparison being made is like
Mike Tyson was anywhere near the threat that we're talking
about here. It wasn't even close. Like, yeah, Mike had
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a shot of hurting Jake, and it was looked at
as somewhat competitive because of Mike's age. We don't look
at this fight as competitive because AJ is a bad
mother when his mind is in a boxing match. Now,
if he shows up like he showed up against Daniel Dubois,
or shows up like he showed up against Andy Ruiz
the second fight, even though he won the fight, it
was the most hesitant, just get through it type of fight.
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If he shows up like that or you know, I
don't know, like the the USIK one fight, then yeah,
we may have a real issue here. Like if AJ's
not focused and he's just doing it whatever and often
la la land, then yeah they may have a problem
because Aj, when he's not locked in just four goes
all boxing and just wings it and bad shit happens
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to him. But if he shows up with any ounce
of respect, any ounce of dignity, any ounce of just
I am going to prove that I'm a professional. And
you can't just walk into this sport and call out
a high level heavyweight as someone that's not even a
true heavyweight and think you're going to win, then he'll
absolutely flatline Jake. So when Akisa is saying stuff like, yeah,
you know, Jake knew going in there with Mike was
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a risk, you're talking like a ninety five or ninety
six percent increase in risk now versus what you were
talking about against Mike Tyson, it's not even close.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Francis Longano amazing MMA fighter, very powerful man, not an
experienced boxer, right, A lot less experienced than Jake Paul.
So if people were comfortable with Francis getting in there
with AJ, Jake who is now thirteen fights in plus
one amateur fight, a lot less than AJ, but much
more than Francis Nngano, I think we're very comfortable with it. Ultimately,
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it's not a fight that I want Jake to do.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
It's a fight that Jake.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
Wants to do, and that's a discussion we've had at length,
and he feels very confident about where he is in
his career and his chances of upsetting Anthony Joshua.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
I mean, listen, that end part is a fair point,
Like you know, Nikisa has to understand the words coming
out of his mouth, or like listen, I'm trying to
do my best to convince you guys of like why
Jake thinks he can win this fight. But I'm gonna
be the first to tell you I didn't want this
fight for I don't know how to even read that,
but I agree with that part to be like, hey, listen,
this is not my choice. In fact, I did not
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want him fighting Anthony Joshua, but we talked and talked
and I tried to He's not saying it, but he's
like I tried to tell him, this is probably not
the best idea, tried to talk to him, maybe, tried
to talk him out of it, and Jake's just not budging.
But again, the comparisons are what I have to go
back to.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
Here.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
You're talking about Francis and Ganu, who, yes, should not
have been in a ring with Anthony Joshua as quick
as he was, shouldn't have been in a ring as
quick as he was with Tyson Fury either, But the
styles make matchups, and like Nikisa said, Francis is a
ridiculously strong puncher, a gifted athlete, a freak of nature. Now, yeah,
Jake has better skills, and he has more experienced, and
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he has thirteen fights and all that's great, But the
same things that plagued Francis potentially and almost certainly can
plague Jake Paul is inexperience at heavyweight, not just in boxing,
but at heavyweight, and having to adjust with a man
like aj who is powerful and is a bit faster
than the other heavyweights outside of USA cracking you with
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a shot that's set up that he actually uses his
jab to create. If AJ again shows up in any
kind of proper form and you get that Aj the
night he fought Francis, it's going to be a train ring.
Speaker 6 (13:30):
Think about disrupting the sport and getting those eyeballs on it.
Jake versus AJ, or Jake versus Joshua, as you call
it at Wembley perhaps sounds pretty good to us. Would
that be the dream venue for a fight like that?
Speaker 2 (13:44):
I think we're looking at multiple options. Wembley's definitely a possibility.
Jake has said he'd like to do it there. He
likes the idea of going in and hearing ninety thousand
people booing him. He kind of feeds off of that.
But we're looking at the US obviously. Saudi Arabia is
also an option in the Middle East as an option
as a whole, but we want to do it in
the most impactful way possible.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
Now listen again, this as a spectacle is going to
draw ridiculous amounts of viewership and for the spectacle of it,
because that's what we're agreeing to this being as we
go into it. Everybody knows this. It'll be an event,
it'll be a spectacle, it'll be must watch for reasons
that probably aren't usually the must watch reasons of boxing.
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Just like Mike Tyson and Jake was, it was a
weird kind of circus clash and that's okay again, I'm
watching this shit. I'm intrigued by it. I want to
see and with Turkey Ola Shake if he's going to
be involved, and I know he said he wants to be,
I think the right idea is to do this in
the UK, do it in Andy Joshua's backyard, do it
at Wimbley R ninety thousand, eighty thousand, whatever it's going
to be. That's the story. And it really sucks to
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me that it's not going to be Jake and Ksi
at Wimbley because that's really the story. That's the one
that honestly should have happened. For those that are not
familiar with the crossover influencer side, that's the fight that's
been on the books and off the books and should
have happened, and it could have happened and didn't happen.
But regardless, US versus UK always sells, and especially when
someone is hated as Jake by the UK audience comes
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into their backyard and they have a guy that they
love and Anthony Joshua. It's a recipe he made in
Boxing Spectacle Heaven. I guess all right, So that's the
Kisa talking about the fight. Now, if that wasn't enough
to convince you that this thing is probably going to
happen more likely than not, I'm saying, I mean, if
I'm putting percentages on it, unless AJ's team and I
saw Ben Davidson. I don't know if he's still coaching AJ,
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but I know he was AJ's coach talking about he
didn't want to see AJ do that. He doesn't he
would rather AJ take more credible fights. And that's also
a fair point and one that a lot of people
are also going to hang on to and say, yeah,
we would rather see him fight Tony Yoka or somebody else.
I have to wait, Yce in fury. I don't know
whoever else outside of something like that happening. I'm putting
this at like a seventy thirty thing. And again, these
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are just my percentages. The way this conversation's going, the
way if you read in between the lines of what
AJ's saying. By by the way, what Eddie Hearn is
saying about you know, yeah, we'll sign it. Yeah, let's
do it right now. Yeah, they want it. Jake wants it.
I don't think Nikisa actually, I don't know if that's
something that he wants. But he's gonna do right by
his client, or at least do what his client's asking
him to do. And then you have this, which again
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just is more ammo, more fuel to the fire for me.
This was I think on Instagram. I'm assuming this was
from the Sky Sports interview. Some random on Instagram commented
underneath it instead, imagine losing to Tommy Fury then thinking
you have a chance to upset Joshua, which is a
fair point. I mean, Jake fought Tommy Fury at what
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one hundred and eighty five pounds and lost. That was
a long time ago. Jake's had a lot of experience
since then, xyz. But you can see why the idea
of him beating Joshua is fucking insane to most people
with a brain. But Nikisa don't like Random's coming at
his boy like that, so he comments underneath it. Imagine
being twenty eight buying a home for forty million freaking
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massive flex pocket watch to the I don't even know
if Jake an noowsd it was of forty million dollar home,
putting on the biggest event in women's boxing history, fighting
in the most viewed boxing event since Ali, and then
fighting AJ soon after. Oh actually, don't imagine it, Jake
Paul did it. So again, I don't know how many
of you guys talk like this when you're just wondering
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about a fight, when you're just negotiating about a fight,
when you're just in talks about a fight, saying things like,
imagine you were fighting in the biggest most viewed boxing
event since Ali, then fought AJ soon after. Oh wait,
don't imagine it, Jake Paul did it. This is almost
a guarantee. Like maybe Nicky's getting ahead of himself a
little bit and just adding things in to hit back
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at a troll, But that seems like almost a freaking
done deep that seems like they're they're this is what's
gonna be happening. So again, I'm not trying to over exaggerate.
I'm not trying to read too much into stuff. I'm
literally just reading the words that are in front of
me and listening to what's being said, I can't believe it.
But they're actually gonna do this shit. This is insane.
They're going to do this fight. I think it's a
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bad idea for Jake. I do and I'm not even
trying to like shit on the fight because again I'm
gonna wat but I just think it's it's there's a
no win situation outside of money, and sure it'll be
a big event. But if Jake's goals are to be
a world champion, which okay, we'll see, I'm still bearish
on that. But if that's the goal outside of the
putting on the big events thing, how do you get
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to that? If you don't get past aj and he
really does a number on you, I have no idea.
And again, is the money worth that kind of risk
to not only this fight but the future. I don't
think so. But comment section, you tell me if I'm crazy.
It seems like it's starting to tilt one way. What
was kind of a joke or at least seem like
that only a few months ago, is now starting to
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become reality again. I said it, just like Eddie Hearn did,
someone could get very badly hurt, and I don't think
it'll be aj looks like this fight's gonna happen. So
you guys, let me know what you think. What's the
percentage you put on this fight actually happening, and if
it does, what happens in it. I don't have those
I mean, I kind of do. I think everybody it does.
Jake's probably gonna get hurt really badly, but we don't know,
not for sure, until they finalize this thing or until
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things actually get set in place. So is Jake gonna
fight Anthony Joshua? I think so, but I don't have
those answers, so I guess we'll find Folks. We are
back on the Way concept presented by The Ring Magazine
with Breaking news today. Well it's about a day old now,
but still breaking news. Chris hu Banks Junior and Connor
beIN are set to rematch and it just got announced,
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so we have to talk about it the breakdown. Let's go,
oh all right, So here it is from The Ring Magazine.
Breaking Ring Magazine has learned Sella completed the deal for
the highly anticipated Chris Eubank Junior versus Connor beIN rematch
on November fifteenth in Tottenham Stadium. The event will be
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presented as the Ring Unfinished Business, not gonna lie. They
kind of did finish the businesses the first time around.
I mean Christy Bank Junior won, but it was a
great fight. It was probably fight of the year or
one of the fights of the year what we've seen
this year in twenty twenty five. But that being said,
it was interesting and there was always supposed to be
a rematch clause, so we're running it back. Also, the
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event will be promoted by Sela and sponsored by Riad
Season and The Ring Magazine. Here is the article. First
it was off, then on, then off again. Now the
rematch between at Christian Bank Junior and connor Bin is
officially back on. The Ring has learned. The deal to
see them run it back from their April twenty six
showdown was completed through Sella on Tuesday. They will have
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approximately three months to prepare for their sequel to take
place on November fifteenth in Tottenham Stadium in the United Kingdom. Right,
so this is interesting because we didn't know we were
gonna get this, it looked like because they were originally
supposed to have the rematch in September and that was
gonna be set in stone. That was how it was
going to go. And then christ yu Bank Junior's team,
I guess wasn't on board or he wasn't on board,
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and they couldn't get the deal done. So it looked
like we were moving on. You know, Connor Ben stay
at one forty seven, potentially looking to fight big fight.
It's at one forty seven, Ryan Garcia out there, who knows.
And then for Chris Ubank Junior, we didn't really know
is he gonna fight again, is he gonna hang him up?
Is he gonna look to move back to one sixty
eight and try to compete at a higher level there,
And we just didn't get any answers, you know, we
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just we we really did not know. So having this
thing back on is great. Like I wouldn't have minded it.
They moved on from it. But this is great. You know, rematch,
a highly contested fight the first time around, tons of
drama leading into the fight, and you know, we do
have to talk about a lot of that. It's not
said here. In fact, on the website at the end
of the article, it says that it is unclear if
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the rematch will once again take place at one hundred
and sixty pounds, but it's believed that the way in
terms will remain the same. This is gonna be obviously
something very controversial for people because the first fight was
already controversial, a lot of people thinking Chris Hubang Junior
shouldn't still be fighting at one hundred and sixty pounds
because it looks like it's a pretty tough weight cut
for him. And then because this is not a natural
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hundred seat pounder in Connor Benn. Then you also have
the rehydration clause from the first fight that was a
massive controversy, so much so that chrisian Bank Junior actually
missed weight. Uh it was a half of a pound
or a half of a half of a pound, I'm
not exactly sure the number, but he missed and it
cost him five hundred thousand dollars. That was insane the
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first time around. And again the rehydration clause makes it
very difficult on I guess he'll be thirty five, maybe
thirty six year old. Chris u Bank clearly is not
a natural one sixty anymore. But then again you have
Connor beIN coming up from one forty seven. He's not
supposed to be fighting at one sixty and it's just
a it's a it's a weird fight. It is as
far as like trying to make it. It's an odd one.
But I can't lie to you if I I want
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to see it, right, I do want to see the rematch.
I thought both men looked great in the first fight.
I thought Chris Hubank Junior pulled out a gutsy performance
and was able to withstand some nasty, I mean, earth
shattering punches from Connor Ben. People talking about his power
not carrying up to one sixty. It may not again
to other people, but against Christian Bank Junior, he was
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lighting him up with some of those shots, and u
Bank not only weathered the storm, but hit him back
with even more big shots and then outclassed him on
the way to a victory. So it is up to
connor Ben to change the tide here in the rematch.
And I'm gonna go ahead and say this because it's
at one sixty, because I've now seen the first fight
and the skill gap was not as big as I
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thought it would potentially be. If connor Ben was gonna
be outmatched, he was. He was outclassed, out boxed in
that fight, but the skill gap wasn't bigger than the
amount that connor Ben can make up for, or you know,
maybe a better approach, maybe a more technical approach, a
more set up approach, because throughout the fight, all we
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watched was connor Ben throw hammers. There was not a
lot of set up punching from connor Ben. There was
a lot of hooks, right hands, straight punches, gab right hand,
but there wasn't a lot of faint jab right ann
wasn't a lot of double jab right hand. Wasn't a
lot of jab work really in total from connor Been
the first time around. And I'm gonna be honest, I
don't know if we be able to see much different
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from Chris you Bank Junior in the rematch. I don't
know that there's much that he can show us in
a rematch that we didn't already see from him. And
I'm not he won the fight. He could probably do
what he did in the first fight and still win.
But I just think that the ceiling is kind of
what we saw from Christian Bank Junior. I don't know
that he has much more to push past what we saw,
or I don't know if he didn't have his greatest
night of fighting. He probably could have boxed more and
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traded less. If we want to say, you know what's
a more safe route for Chris, you Bank Junior, and
one that again him being the more technically skilled. It
looked like in the first fight, and that's how he won.
Maybe in a rematch he's more safe and stays behind
his jab and doesn't look to engage as much and
plays more defense and you know, drags out a decision.
That way definitely could be the case, or just out
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boxes connor Ben. It doesn't take as many risks because
he took some unnecessary risks. I mean, I mean, I
don't know if you even want to call him unnecessary,
because those things needed to have for connor Ben to
get stopped in his tracks a little bit and for
Chris Junior to gain some respect and be able to
have some offense. He needed to stop the wild swings.
He needed to stop the big time power of Connor
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Ben and sit in the pocket with him, you know,
not all the fight, but multiple times to re establish
that it was his fight. To slow connor Ben down,
to back him off and take center of the ring again.
He had to do a little bit of that. So
this time around, will we see much different from you Bank?
I just don't know that there's much different he can bring. Yeah,
he can box you on the front foot, box you
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on the back foot, sit down in the pocket. But
think that's what he kind of already did the first
time around. Again, maybe more defensive. We'll see. But I'm
gonna be honest with you guys when I think about
this fight way too early, because again we're about three
months away. The same factors that worried you in the
first fight for Chris Ubank Junior, even though he won,
are gonna be the same ones that worry you again
in this rematch. I think out of the two of them, yeah,
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I mean Connor Benn going to one sixties, not his
natural weight class, he shouldn't be there either. But out
of the two of them, the person that's gonna be
more compromised that that way is probably Chris Youubank Junior,
not even probably is Chris Hubang Junior because of again
the amount of weight he's cutting and the rehydration clause.
It's hard to put weight on, for sure, but depriving
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yourself of water and cutting weight and then depriving yourself
for water longer do you hydrating yourself? You know, it's
just not I mean, we saw he got he's probably
getting in trouble with the British Boxing Board of Control
for the sauna suit and him showing how the weight
cut affected it. It's one of the worst practices in
combat sports. I've said it for so long now, but
it's just it is what it is. Weight cutting is
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definitely a deterrent. More so I think especially in this matchup,
because I don't see Chris you Bank having the power
to do much in terms of shaking Connor Bin at
least we didn't see that in the first fight. I
think he's the one that's going up against the eight
ball again more than Connor Ben. I think he's sacrificing more.
But with that being said, this is why I think,
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and again way too early prediction, I'm gonna go Connor
Ben again. I picked him in the first fight and
again he was moments away from having some big time
success and you hurt Chris Huban Junior with a couple
of punches there, but for the most part, you Bank
Junior ran away with it and the ol boxed him
and Connor Binn I thought didn't have a solid approach
to landing his big time power because it was all
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power shots. It was all Haymakers for the entirety of
the fight. There was no speed in defense transition. There
was no let me take some speed off of this
one and use it as a range finer than by
Bajam and speed it back up and add some power
to it. It was just hammers. And I think he
knows and in a rematch, if he can do a
little bit different, if you can make some adjustments to
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his game and keep that same tenacity and keep that
same power and keep that same ferociousness forward and trying
to take center of the ring and take the fight
to Chris you Bank Junior. I think he's got a
great chance of win in this fight, and I'm gonna
pick him to win this fight here. I don't know.
I just think there's more opportunity for him to grow.
He is the younger fighter, less experience, but that fight
gave him a ton of experience and now he knows
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the size isn't a big deal and it's not something
where he's overmatched size wise. Yeah, Chris you Bank Junior
can take some of his punches better than a one
forty seven pounder could, but he still rocked him with
big time shots. And again, I just think a tweak
and how he approaches the offense and a bit of
more head movement defense, a bit more slipping punches, encountering
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off ERSU is trading in the pocket for Connor Benn
will will lead him to the promised land here. And
I just think there's too many things that Chris you
Bank Junior. He's up against the eight ball with the
weight cut, the age, the hydration, the damage from the
first fight. He took some real damage. Both guys did,
but it looked like Chris you Bank Junior took more damage.
I mean, the good thing for you Bank Junior is
that he's felt probably the most that he could probably
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feel as far as power from Connor Benn. He's felt
what it's like to get hit with a real flush shot.
I mean, he got clipped a couple different times, so
he knows kind of what to look out for. And
again he may fight a more defensive, safe fight this
time around, but I'm leaning Connor Ben and I know
people aren't gonna like that pick, but I just think
there's too many things going against Chris you Bank Junior
in this rematch, and Connor Ben has some stuff going
against him too, I guess with the weight, but everything else,
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the youth, the speed, the power he has that he
just needs to be able to box a little better.
And that's the big question of how this fight will go.
Because the boxing experience and the technical skill right now
clearly go to Chris you Bank Junior. I do think
Connor Bin can make up a little bit of that
gap and fight a bit of a smarter fight this
time around. That's just my initial thoughts on the fight.
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I do wonder how this is gonna go. You know,
they both still don't like each other, mutual respect from
the first fight, and the first fight with such a banger.
I don't know how easy it's gonna be for the
second fight to live up to it. Like it's gonna
be really difficult to replicate that night. The moment here
comes Chris you Bank Senior. He's in the corner. After
being against the fight for months and months, and that
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whole thing, and again the fathers of the two sons
being there, history repeats itself, that whole deal. I don't
know if the hype is going to deliver like it
did in the first fight, But if it comes anywhere
close and they just have another good scrap, then this
is well worse for the fan. Again, a massive risk
for both fighters because they're fighting at weights they normally
shouldn't be at anymore. And I do wonder how Chris
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you Bank Senior sees this. Ultimately, he came around and
was there on fight night. Whether you want to believe
that was because it was a work or because he
just wanted to be there for his son or whatever, right,
he was there. But this time they've knowingly done the
first one. What does he think about this one?
Speaker 3 (30:24):
Right?
Speaker 1 (30:24):
And I know Nigel Ben will be there for Connor,
we know that. But yeah, when I talked to Connor
when when we were in New York, he was dead
set on doing the rematch, and it was like there
was no doubt in his mind that he was gonna
win it. And then he also had some other ideas
for one forty seven. So it has to be now
for Connor Ben, for Chris you Bank Junior, and for
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this rematch, it has to be now because again you
Bank Junior is getting older. Connor Ben needs to get
his one forty seven career back on track. He needs
to go back down and really if he wants to
be a world champ, get more experienced down there against
top level guys. But if they were gonna do it,
now is the time. You couldn't really wait till the
end of the year because then you're really starting to
put a distance between both guys and what they're trying
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to do in their perspective careers. But listen, this one's
gonna be controversial. I'm not gonna lie to you and
say that that there's not disadvantages on both sides and
that it is a bit of an odd fight for
both guys, but it was the first time and it
created match. I'm also not gonna lie and say I'm
not excited for this, because I am. I am excited
for it. I'm sorry, I do want to watch a
rematch between the two. Even though we did get a
definitive first fight, it was a good back and forth
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and Connor bid did show a good fight. Chris hu
Bank Junior did everything he did to put Ben back
in his spy and showcase his ability. I just think
this time around it's gonna be a different story because
this time around, Connor Beinn's gonna win it again two
early predictions and I'm a flip flop, but for now
I'm all un steady. I think Connor gets him this
time around, for the youth, for speed and power, for now,
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the experience of being in there at that way against
Chris Hubank Junior. I think he has more ways to
get better and less things to overcome than Chris Hubank
Junior to get this one done in the second time around.
I don't know if that sets up a trilogy. I
have no idea, but I do want to see this fight.
I am excited for this fight. It is back Chris
Ubank Junior Connor been the rematch, and it's gonna be
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in Tottenham Stadium again, which the turnout was incredible for
last time. I was there live myself and my guy
true Jeordi. So I don't know exactly how that'll look
this time around. I don't know what the undercard is
gonna look like this time around, but they had a
great one in the first especially my boy that al Riley.
Can he get on that undercard and get his fight
again in his home stadium in Tottenham, I have no idea,
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And also who wins think the way it will be
one sixty. I don't know for sure. And Chris you
Bank Senior, will he be there? Nigel the whole thing. Listen.
I only have questions right now, but we do have
one answer, and that is the rematch is official. What
do you think about this fight? Let me go down below.
And as far as who wins on the night, don't
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have those answers either, but I guess we'll find out
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I want to get into the face to face that
happened between Super Salt Poppy and Tony Ferguson because listen,
this fight is interesting for multiple reasons. I want to
see if there's any mental games being played or whatever
else we can take away from Tony Ferguson's mindset. Really
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just want to see where Tony's mind is because I
think I know where Salt Poppy is. I know what
he's going to bring to this fight when he's super dangerous.
But I want to see what does Tony Ferguson have.
What is he thinking is going to be different this
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all right, So let's check us out. Tony Ferguson saw
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Poppy face to face with our guy Bale running the show.
Let's see what happened.
Speaker 7 (36:10):
This dude made that walk. I'm making the walk for
my first time. You have a fights and I have zero.
Everybody's underwriting me. They're they're saying he gonna knock me
out and everything ninety percent. Tony, You're fighting a fucking influt.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
If we're gonna get to Tony Ferguson math again, ninety percent. Also,
they were supposed to they're supposed to be using these
subtitles to say what he actually said. Tony keeps saying
people are underwriting him. I think he means to say
that people are underestimating him for this fight. I'm not
sure who's Tony's underwriter, but I don't I don't know
that he understands what that word means.
Speaker 8 (36:40):
Everybody's underwriting me.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
There, they even said underestimated. They got you, Tony, those
cap sh saved.
Speaker 7 (36:46):
You mean they're saying he gonna knock me out and everything.
Ninety percent, Tony, you're fighting a fucking influence. So there
goes the other twenty percent, but all fucking negative.
Speaker 1 (36:54):
He did it again, not even into the video. It's
just a preview, and Tony is saying that ninety again.
Someone needs to get with Tony Ferguson and let him
know that ninety percent plus twenty percent is not one
hundred percent, it's one hundred and ten. Maybe he just
thinks one hundred and ten percent is how his life is, right,
one hundred and ten percent effort, one hundred and ten
(37:14):
percent of fans, one hundred and ten percent of profit.
I don't know he Tony has got his own way
of doing things, so maybe it's just, you know, his
inner working's coming out.
Speaker 7 (37:22):
Any person has got the fucking balls to walk through
the door and to stay there is a fucking fighter, bro.
I'm gonna go walk through an August thirtyth then I'm
gonna handle everything that I need to go and get
that victory.
Speaker 5 (37:33):
Have you watched any of its fights? And what do
you make of him?
Speaker 4 (37:38):
Dangerous? I'm dangerous, so you know this is your biggest smile.
Speaker 1 (37:43):
I'm gonna say we're thirty two seconds in. I don't
know is this like a preview because Salt has said nothing,
which again I don't expect him to say anything, but
like Tony is carrying right now. Also, Tony's pants look
like like football pants with like thigh pads of them.
Speaker 5 (37:57):
I love it, Tony, So it's a pleasure see you both.
To be honest, I'm so surprised I'm seeing this face
off right now when.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
I'm not gonna lie. I don't even know Saul Poppy's
actual name. That's crazy. I've known him for like five
years now, and I don't know his name. I'm the
asshole in this situation, but just hearing Tony so I
don't know his name.
Speaker 4 (38:14):
It's got announced.
Speaker 5 (38:15):
I had to double check, I had to refresh, I
think the whole world of refreshing because they didn't believe
this was gonna happen. So so I'm actually gonna come
to you first. When you got that phone call from
Mam Taylor to say you were fighting this man, that
you will fight a former UFC interim champion, what was
your reaction to that?
Speaker 9 (38:32):
I mean, I were shock, like I really can't be
there because and obviously not a lot of people get
this type of opportunity, and so I'm like, I'm so
grateful for Misfit Boxing for giving me this fight, big fights,
back to back, and yeah, when when I heard that
I was gonna fight Tony Ferguson, there's there's something I
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couldn't say. Now I'm gonna be sharing that with a legend,
legendary fighter, and yeah, I can wait.
Speaker 4 (38:59):
That's it. I'm toning. I ask you the same question
when you've got the crew.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
Misfits does clearly think of Salt Poppy as like a superstar.
You look at his social numbers, they're ridiculous, Like he
does have a high level of social interaction. He's got charisma,
he's got swagger, he can fight, So they look at
him as someone that can take over the mantle potentially,
you know, to some degree with I think it's gonna
be more than one person that's gonna have to fill
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the void of KSI when he stops fighting. But so
Poppy they look at as one of those guys. Even
after the Slim loss, even after the Anthony Taylor loss,
they look at him as a guy to lead whatever
they're going toward in the next two three years. So yeah,
I mean, he keeps getting these massive opportunities because he
does deliver, even in losses. He delivers fun fights. So
they clearly see him as a star, which is why
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he's gotten this opportunity.
Speaker 5 (39:45):
And he said, you're fighting Salt Poppy. Did you even
know who Salt Poppy was?
Speaker 4 (39:50):
Daniel, right, Nathan, Nathan, Tony.
Speaker 1 (39:52):
Nathan Okay, I forgot, yes, he's he's told me his
name before. He said Daniel, Me and Tony bo. Look
at the respect from Tony years. I didn't know when
it goes in Nathan Okay, all right, we do it.
Salt Poppy is a good stage name right.
Speaker 7 (40:09):
To the YouTube and it goes into influencers and TikTok.
I don't have anything against it. I'm gonna be real.
I wasn't competing when everybody was doing everything. I was
saved it for when it really mattered like now, which
is pretty cool. So I mean nothing against you. I
really don't know, but I know you have what a fights,
a fight style. You have a fights and I have zero.
This is my pro debut. I was never allowed to box,
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so it's different. And MMA it's different. We have no
shoes in MMA and we have to worry about takedowns,
so now it's different.
Speaker 8 (40:39):
It's not opportunity for me to be able.
Speaker 7 (40:41):
To go in there play another sport, come from multi
sport background when it comes to that way. So it's
awesome as soon as I got the phone call to
be able to box. Nothing against GFL that's still there,
but I don't Indians stay busy.
Speaker 8 (40:53):
I like I like the fight. I like to come.
Speaker 1 (40:54):
I don't know if anybody needs to let Tony know,
but GFL is not still there. Sorry, don like you
know I know that Tony was supposed to be one
of the big signees at GFL, and I think he
was even supposed to fight Dylan Danis. I'm not sure,
but someone has to let Tony know that shit is
not happening. That ship has not only sailed, it set
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sail and crashed immediate nobody's protecting their neck at GFL.
It's not happening, dude.
Speaker 7 (41:20):
And this dude went from a lot of big heavyweight
all the way down to where he's at. And I
don't think a lot of people give social media influencers
a lot of credit because in athletes.
Speaker 1 (41:29):
Now, sorry, I gotta stop again. What did Dylan say
in my interview about what Salt Poppy was? Because Tony's
talking about, you know, Salt Poppy losing weight and he
started at heavyweight now he's come down to I think
they're fighting at like one sixty one seventy. I'm not sure,
but when I asked Dylan White wasn't fighting Tony, he said, Tony,
Tony's fighting someone that started fat to skinny. Don't even
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know what Tony's doing. Let's find someone that started fat
to skinney. Dylan's the man I know y'all hate him,
but he's a goat.
Speaker 7 (41:56):
Dude in my opinion, and we're gonna go in there.
He's gonna try to hit me. I'm gonna so it's
gonna go out there.
Speaker 4 (42:01):
Have you watched any of its fights?
Speaker 3 (42:03):
Of course?
Speaker 4 (42:03):
What do you make of them? Salpa dangerous?
Speaker 8 (42:08):
I'm dangerous.
Speaker 4 (42:10):
Can he cause you any issues?
Speaker 8 (42:12):
Not unless I want him to?
Speaker 4 (42:14):
How about you? You've seen seeing his fight?
Speaker 1 (42:16):
Yeah, I'm not gonna lie. Salt Poppy can cause Tony
some issues, regardless if he wants him to or not.
I don't think Tony has taken him lightly. I don't
really know what the last thing you want to do,
especially when you come over as an MMA guy to boxing.
We've talked about it in NASA. To take these guys
lightly because they haven't trained as long in martial arts,
or they're not as committed to the sports as some
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of these high level veterans were or are, is a mistake. Again,
I'm not saying Tony's doing this, but sal Poppy has power,
the speed, the timing to cause Tony some real problem.
And yeah, Tony can can be dangerous for sure. You know, uh,
whatever he's got left, I don't know. We'll see, but
out of the two of them in a boxing ring,
I am leaning to it, not even leaning. I am
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fully thinking that salt is.
Speaker 9 (43:01):
I've seen a lot of his fights, Like you know, Yes,
it's a big step up for me, it's a big
challenge for me. But yeah, this will prove that I'm
ready for the big challenge, like Tony.
Speaker 5 (43:11):
Have you seen the online reaction to this as well?
I mean it's been going all over Twitter. This is
really you said he's gonna knock me out?
Speaker 9 (43:17):
Yes, I just like, I just can't believe what defense
is saying because look at you, sick thirty eight, forty six,
Tony is only forty one. It's gonna be strong as hell,
and I'm gonna have to like you and I'm gonna
be struggling.
Speaker 3 (43:32):
Yeah for sure.
Speaker 1 (43:34):
Yeah, that converison don't work many pakyaw at forty six,
that was an anomaly that was insane to see. By
the way, a lot about how good Manny was as
a boxer eight division world champion, not an MMA fighter
that's forty one, that's already declining in his own sport,
and declined in his own sport to then come over
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and start boxing. You're talking about Manny pak Yao, who
even at the end of his career was still fighting,
you know, losing some fights, but fighting at around the
top level, and then came back and fought Mario Barrios
is probably one of the worst champions in boxing, but
still I thought won the fight. Was sick at thirty
eight again, been boxing all his life, is a world
class probably one of the best boxers you've ever seen.
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So to act like, oh yeah, I can't believe the
fans were saying Tony's gonna get slept when Tony has
never boxed and he's forty one and he's on like
a seven fight losing streak in MMA, that's insane. I
want Salt to address though, and Tony's like, yeah, you
said you gonna knock me out. Say it to him.
Salt loves to talk like talk in the ring. He
will talk his shit in the ring. But this one,
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he even said he's gonna knock Tony out. I want
to see him, you know, yeah, I A'm gonna knock
you out. Yeah, yeah, here's why. But he's not he's
not addressing that. I want to see him address though.
Speaker 7 (44:46):
He says that knock me out, so I've got fuel
for the fire to be able to train for the
last four years in MMA, like when Kobeebe and Connor
never wanted to fight because those fucking guys are pussies.
You stepped them forward in the line and you're yeah, yeah.
A lot of people they just do it like a
lot of the fights didn't interest me. And this is
a new sport. It's a new avenue for me to
be able to go if I want to go play
pro baseball later on whatever, I'm talking to my agent,
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this is another avenue for me.
Speaker 1 (45:09):
Tony Ferguson just say he wants to go play pro
baseball later on. I love Tony, I do, and I
love his childlike aspiration to do all the things he
never got to do as a youngster as a child.
But you are not playing professional baseball at forty two
three whenever later on is no in no world and
no fantasy is that happen. I love him, and I
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hope he tries. I really do not even like I'm not.
I'm not trying to see her and laugh at Tony.
That's not the thing. I just love the fact that
he doesn't ever give up honestly, I love it. It
bewilders me. It's nonsensical. It will not happen him playing
at a professional level unless it's like a you know,
a farm league team that kind of gives him the
Michael Jordan treatment, like all right, try it. But I
just love that he's like, O, can I still gonna
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do these things? My age doesn't matter? Like I love that.
It's just that will not happen.
Speaker 7 (45:55):
And like I said, I'm not gonna bullshit in no more,
I can't. So I can't standbag anymore.
Speaker 5 (46:00):
So Tony said that you said you were gonna knock
him out.
Speaker 4 (46:03):
Now he's in front of you. Do you still believe that?
Speaker 1 (46:05):
Good question?
Speaker 9 (46:06):
I mean, I don't have a lucky one punch knockout,
and that's all I can do.
Speaker 3 (46:09):
Really.
Speaker 4 (46:10):
If it happens, it happens.
Speaker 1 (46:12):
But yeah, oh Salt's playing like, oh yeah, I just
got the lucky one punch. Why is he doing that?
We all know that you're better than a lucky one
punch knockout, and if it happens, it happens. Just just
be about it, you know what I'm saying. Talk to
your stuff. This isn't like a you trying to disrespect
Tony thing. And I know Salt likes to be respectful
and not talk, but he's kind of playing like, oh
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I am just the influencer da type of thing. I
wish he would kind of stand on business with it
and be like, yeah, you know, listen, I think he
I think I could touch him on the chain. You know,
he's agreed, he's a legend in the UFC, and you know,
I appreciate him for that or whatever. But he's coming
into my realm and I'm gonna show him why this
game is different. That wouldn't be him disrespecting Tony. That
would just be stating, matter of factly what he wants
to do. I want to see that because I know
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he's confident in what he's gonna do. I just don't
know why I won't say.
Speaker 4 (46:58):
It, Tony, You fool people.
Speaker 5 (47:00):
Popo is a Pettis Gate sheep the top of the
food chain.
Speaker 4 (47:04):
Why now Salt Pappy?
Speaker 7 (47:06):
Because Nathan's cool man, Like he's enough to be able
to want to go out there and put his record.
Speaker 1 (47:10):
On the line. And he was like, yeah, Daniel's pretty
cool guy. He's like, oh shit, Nathan.
Speaker 7 (47:15):
To anybody else that doesn't understand the complexity of walking
through a fucking boxing gindor how hard it is. It's
easier to stay there, it's harder to walk through there.
Get that first initial walk through there. This dude made
that walk. I'm making the walk for my first time.
My nervous Yeah, I was a little nervous. This is boxing.
But if I didn't have that nervous energy, doesn't matter.
If I had him or anybody else in front of it,
I'm not gonna fucking do it. I wasn't even feel
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enough for end the Man anymore, and it was just
fucking boring a shit to me. It's just like I
was just doing it just to fucking do it so
people can see me compete until we both parted ways
in a good.
Speaker 8 (47:46):
Not cut both ways. If I got my shit and
I wanted.
Speaker 7 (47:48):
My stuff and I go back, yeah, maybe I got
other things to accomplish and I'm gonna go out there
in August thirtieth, then I'm gonna handle everything that I
need to go and get that victory.
Speaker 1 (47:56):
What's fired up, man, he's fired up? Yeah. Listen, Tony
left the UFC. Maybe you know the way they I
don't know. I don't know how it was done, but
it was the right decision for the UFC obviously to
not have Tony in any more fights because he was
losing consistently, taking tons of damage consistently, you know, and Tony,
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it just didn't whether he wasn't into it or not anymore,
he was going to continue losing fight. The competition level
in the game had just passed him by. That's really
simply all it was. Whether they cut him, whether he left,
doesn't really matter. It was a good decision. So I'm
glad he's If he's gonna compete in combat sports, I'm
glad he's doing this versus doing that, if that makes sense,
probably making a shit ton more money over here. I
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mean again, the danger when you step into combat sports
is there regardless. So the people that are upset about
him continuing to fight, this would have happened in the UFC,
It would have happened in any other boxing match. It
would have happened to kickboxing, So I get it. But
at the same time, if he wants to compete, this
is probably the best option.
Speaker 5 (48:52):
For him, transition being like from MMA to boxing, because
you mentioned multiple times now that it's a completely different sport,
So how are you going to transition in this time
getting someone that's already had eight flights and still have
the chance.
Speaker 7 (49:02):
I've been wanting to box since I was little. I
was never allowed to h I grew up in Michigan.
My pop's raised me military in the country, and I
was able to have heavy bags unless I bought five
bottom and speed bags. I'm hitting the speed backs since
I was about fourteen, thirteen fifteen something like that, and
I would always break my bags and stuff. But I
was My pop tells me, He's like, I'm not paying
for your school. You're gonna go to college. He's like,
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in my roof, you're gonna go to college. He's like,
you're gonna play sports in order to get yourself a scholarship.
And I did pick my choice and I did that.
Now s I all of my stuff kind of like
went down, and I've collected every single side quest. You
play video games, you understand side quests, you understand all
this kind of shit. I did everything from Knockout of
the Night, Submission, Night Fight of the Year, Ultimate Fighter,
Troll Feet, the UFC Bell Like, I'm dude, I've gone
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all of this shit. I don't really care because I'd
love that stuff, but I want to collect more. I
got bunch of medals for wrest and I got national championship,
state championship football ring for wrestling, and like, like.
Speaker 1 (49:59):
Does Tony where his high school football state championship ring around? Hell? Yeah, dude,
I actually kind of with that because I've no I mean,
my little brother what a state title?
Speaker 4 (50:10):
And I don't.
Speaker 1 (50:10):
I don't even think he knows where his ring is,
Like you could tell he I don't know that Tony
wanted to be a mixed martial artists. I don't know
that he like the way he talks about other sports
he wants to do. Maybe he just wanted to play
a ton of different sports. He wants to be an athlete.
He talks about football, he talks about wrestling, talks about baseball,
talks about boxing. This is him again, being a big kid,
getting to live out his dream of doing the other
sports he never got to do as a as a
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as a kid. I think that's a cool storyline.
Speaker 7 (50:33):
I like collecting shit and I don't like collecting losses.
I had to demonstrate to everybody what humility was so
that way everybody could understand the nob he's perfect and
if they took it with the grain of salt, maybe
they learned something.
Speaker 4 (50:44):
So when you hear with these accolades, I.
Speaker 1 (50:45):
Don't know what that meant from Tony. He said he
had to demonstrate humility so everybody can understand how to
take a loss. Is he like, is he acting like, Oh,
I had to lose so I could show people how
to lose. I don't think he wanted to lose those fights.
I don't know. Can I'm just I don't know. Sometimes
Tony saying and stuff. I'm like, maybe it's going over
my head.
Speaker 4 (51:01):
I don't know, and you see what it's achieved.
Speaker 5 (51:03):
How do you maintain the confidence and the calmness that
you have right now?
Speaker 9 (51:07):
Cook said, yeah, and yeah I do. I do have
a chances because I do have one punch knackleut power
and yeah, we'll just see what happened in August thirty
eight and I'll be ready for the best.
Speaker 4 (51:20):
Tony Ferguson, is that how you win the fight? It's
through a knockout punch.
Speaker 9 (51:25):
I can I can try a win like you know,
by points, but I always want to go for the
knocklout because of the knackleut bonus.
Speaker 7 (51:33):
There a knockout bonus. Yes, you know I was broke
when I was in the Open Fighter. I was broken
the Open Fighter. I went there like my wife was
helping me pay my rent and my ship, and I
go in there. Ramsey Nigel said this, he's like five
K baby, because.
Speaker 8 (51:44):
He went in there and you finished somebody.
Speaker 4 (51:46):
It's I.
Speaker 8 (51:50):
Was like, yeah, we'll go make a rent.
Speaker 4 (51:54):
Now there's some Fighter of the night as well. Fight
off not.
Speaker 8 (51:58):
Yeah, two chances fifty k. It's a big deal.
Speaker 4 (52:01):
Maybe we can make them double it went across all
of the bucks. That tells you that they can't.
Speaker 1 (52:05):
Yeah, I mean, listen, that's a cooler answer from Salt
Poppy like yeah, I maybe could win, even though he's
still trying to play coy, like, ah, you know, I
just got the one knockout punch. That's really all I got. Bullshit,
but saying like yeah, listen, I want to finish the fight.
I want to get that knockout bonus. And then Tony
being like, let's double it. Man's open your pocket books.
I open up the wallet, got the check, they can
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knock you out.
Speaker 4 (52:26):
What's your reaction to that?
Speaker 7 (52:28):
Nothing I've played I've been wrestling for a long time,
in freestyle wrestling where you had to stand next to
your opponent, right, So I've had people mean, mug me,
try to be my best friend, hate me, fucking not
say shit, doing all this stuff. And I've got thousands
of wrestling matches with shoes on.
Speaker 8 (52:46):
Different So.
Speaker 1 (52:50):
He has a good point, Like when Salt says he
wants to knock Tony out, Tony's like, I've heard it all,
Like it doesn't bother me. I've had people try to
be nice, be mean, not say anything mean mugby. Then
he adds the with the shoes on part. I know
he's fighting in shoes and it is different than fighting
not with shoes on. But I don't know what the
if he thinks the ultimate difference between MMA and boxing
is I get to wear shoes. I mean, that's not it.
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But he keeps focusing on the shoes. Maybe he just
has some sick boxing shoes he wants to wear. He's like, Yo,
I'm showed up at Jordan's Amanda Serado style. What's up, dude.
Finally I'm been trying to wear Jordan all my fights.
Speaker 5 (53:24):
No, this is your biggest moment on the stage when
it comes to misfits boxing, Yeah, how are you gonna
deal with that pressure, the anxiety, the nuts.
Speaker 7 (53:32):
I can't draw a line on this shit and everything
like that. Any person's got the fucking balls to walk
through the door and to stay there is a fucking fighter. Bro, Like,
I'm not even playing anymore. I don't give a shit.
And that's the hardest part is getting off your fucking couch,
getting off your ass, and getting into a fucking gym.
I went to the boxing gym over here. It was
twelve three or some fucking gym. The guy didn't know
who the fuck I was. For one, I didn't give
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a shit.
Speaker 8 (53:53):
I'm just there.
Speaker 7 (53:54):
I was asking if I could hit the boxing. He's like,
and he brust it out his laptop and see if
he could make a schedule like calling this guy. I'm like,
I just fucking walked over the bag and kind of
hit it, and I was like, no, this isn't where
I want to be. You kind of understand where like, well,
people they kind of think like that, that's not who
I want to be, who they can fuck off. And
I can understand You've probably been in the same way
because everybody's underwriting me, they're saying he gonna knock me
out and everything.
Speaker 1 (54:13):
I'm so the question was asked to Salt Poppy. He
didn't even answer. Tony starts talking about how he walked
into a gym in the UK and the guy didn't
know him, so he was trying to figure out if
he could let him in. Tony touched the bag and
got a bad vibe and it's like, I don't want
to be here. They can go I have no idea,
what the fuck's going on? What the hell's happening here?
Speaker 7 (54:36):
Can understand you've probably been in the same way because
everybody's underwriting me, they're saying he gonna knock me out
and everything. Ninety percent, but everybodys saying Tony, you're fighting
a fucking influencer. So there goes the other twenty percent,
but all fucking negative, like come on.
Speaker 1 (54:49):
Yeah, it's Poppy said, yeah, Like, I don't know what
the fuck just say to that. The overall message from
Tony is like, yeah, I'm I'm pissed that people think
this influencer is gonna knock me out, and then something
about the fact that you know, ninety percent think that
I can't even fight anyway. But the other twenty, even
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though it should be ten, think that the influencer is
gonna knock me out because he's better than me in
boxing too. So he's frustrated. I get it, but he's
not articulating it very well. It's all Bobby's confused.
Speaker 4 (55:22):
Why I can just do my best? Man, I'm gonna
do my best.
Speaker 3 (55:25):
That's it.
Speaker 8 (55:26):
Get me heated. I'm supposed to get mad at him,
but I'm not.
Speaker 7 (55:30):
Like, Look, when it goes into an athlete, we're gonna
both prepare and we're gonna do our shit. We're gonna
go out there and you guys are gonna have a
fucking amazing show. So you guys need to fucking buy
that ship. Don't stream like fucking whenever I fight. I
know you guys are buying the ship. I just fucking
know him because you guys have that much respect for me.
I'm that og when it comes into this original genius
kind of shit. So by the pay per view, yeah,
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pay per views, man, Like seriously, like a lot of
people fuck him whatever they gotta think and shit like that.
You've got a couple fighters that are on this car.
They're gonna go out there, they're gonna give it the shit.
I'm just fighting. But this is a fucking dope ass car.
Speaker 1 (56:01):
Man bags dude, and Tony is right like he has
a lot of OG fans. Original genius is not one
I've heard for for OG, original gangster say, but he's
kind of both. He's a gangster, always has been an MMA,
and he does have a loyal fan base. And I
do think that that fan base will come over and
watch Tony because they've watched him in the UFC. They
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watched him, you know, ascend to the highest of highs
and then obviously they watched the losing streak there at
the end, so they've always stood by his side. I
think that the Misfits did a great job getting him
on this card if he wanted to fight, which it
seems like he does. I personally don't think Tony should
be fighting anymore. But if he's gonna fight, he's gonna
do it somewhere, and he's probably gonna make the most
money doing it here at Misfits, So fair play, and
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I do I think he commands a great audience.
Speaker 5 (56:46):
No agree more so, I've just got a couple more
questions before we wrap things off. I'm gonna start off
with you, Toney. We're only matter a few weeks away. Now,
what's your prediction for this fight? When that bell rings?
How does fight go for you?
Speaker 7 (57:00):
You're gonna have to tune in. I don't like to
talk too much about like other ship like that. You
guys gonna have to tune in when it goes into it.
You guys are gonna be in for a good fight.
It's gonna be amazing. Camp Camp has been cool already.
Speaker 8 (57:14):
It's awesome. Look at my new hairline too, Thank you, Bosley.
Speaker 1 (57:19):
Honestly, how do you not love him? Look at my
new hairline? Thanks? Did you say thanks? Bosley? That's awesome,
so awesome. Put a little hair dye in there too.
You could tell he went a little just for bed
a touch of gray, right silver fox, Tody? I like it?
Speaker 4 (57:32):
Good question. How does this fight gout for you? I
just do whatever it takes to win and hope and
get lucky.
Speaker 5 (57:40):
Don't bite me, just kidding.
Speaker 7 (57:46):
I'm gonna hit him. He's gonna try to hit me,
and that's how it's gonna go from mine.
Speaker 4 (57:50):
Well, this is gonna be one of the final times.
Speaker 1 (57:52):
I hate this Salt Poppy keeps saying like, oh, I'm
just gonna try to get lucky. Bro just be about it, dude.
We all know your confidence. Yourself up, call your shot.
If he was just being humble, like, that's not even
being him being humble, right, that's just him being like, oh,
you know, I'm just the influencer. It's like playing a character.
I get it, but I want him to like, you know,
stand on that ship. We've seen it. You can't hide
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it from us anymore, you know.
Speaker 5 (58:15):
Face off before we get into fight weeks. So can
I get some final words from you both?
Speaker 4 (58:18):
So first made the best memory, sir about it? Do
you have any final words for Salt Pappy?
Speaker 8 (58:26):
I see the thirtieth thirtieth handshake.
Speaker 4 (58:31):
It's been an absolute pressure. Thank you to handshake like,
I don't know why as much.
Speaker 8 (58:36):
Put your hand up.
Speaker 3 (58:44):
Again against answer.
Speaker 1 (58:46):
Bigger than Brocks. Tony is so awesome, duties off. Put
your hand up here, see got big hands.
Speaker 5 (58:53):
I appreciate both your time. Thank you so much being
an absolute honor doing this. Face off and make sure
you're getting your tickets and going and watching it live
on his own August thirtieth, Manchester A arena.
Speaker 1 (59:04):
That was awesome. Tony is a pleasure to listen to,
even if it is a bit confusing, if he is
all over the place, He's still Tony Ferguson, and the
reason you love him as a fighter is because of that.
His personality is erratic, sometimes doesn't make any sense, but
you know he's passionate about what he's doing. Right, He's
not doing something he doesn't care about. He's always been
that way with the UFC, He's doing that now with
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the crossover boxing space. I want to see him stay safe.
I know that's not maybe even possible because he's fighting
and it is combat sports. But obviously, in my opinion,
I'm still sticking with Salt Poppy winning this fight. I
say obviously, and it's only it's not a disrespect to Tony,
it's just because of the situation and where we're at right.
Tony's career, his age, mileage, the wear and tear, the
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lack of experience specifically just boxing. I mean, he alluded
to it. So Bobby, he's got eight fights, He's got none.
Jake made a career off this when he first started boxing.
Is bringing guy in that had never boxed, that were
high level MMA fighters and exploiting the difference between high
level MMA and you know, entree level box There are
completely different sports. You guys just watched me get rag
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dogged by Dylan Danis after having a decent enough showing
in my first ever little boxing match. It's it's not
even close. And this is why you don't see boxers
go to MMA because they're not the same sport and
they would get ragdolled and destroyed. So I expect this
same formula. I mean, if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
Time and time again, we've seen it. I expect Saulpoppy
to win this, but I could be wrong. And fight
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week is almost here now or a couple of weeks away.
I'm gonna be traveling all over the country. So it's
the last time you guys will see me in the
setup room for a while. But the next time you
see me on a broadcast will be in Florida. I'm
gonna be doing some stuff with MVP their Prospects card
coming up on the twenty second. Then I will be
in Manchester at the Al Arena for Misfits twenty two,
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Fun Fights, Fun Week, Fun month ahead. As far as
what happens with Tony Ferguson saw Poppy. I think I know,
but on August thirtieth, guess we'll find out
All right, So we are back on the way concept
presented by the Ring, and today they're actually gonna do this,
aren't they. They really are going to make Jake Paul
versus Anthony Joshua. And it's not just me saying this
as if I want this to happen, because I'm truly
like concerned that Jake Paul is gonna get his actual
head knocked off his shoulders. Now, now, how many people in
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this comments section will be like, why is that a concern? Way,
that's what we want? Well, I think it's probably a
bad precedent, but boxing has already set a ton of
bad precedents, so it may not just be an idea,
it may be reality, and it may be sooner than
you think. What do I mean the breakdown? Let's go,
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all right? So Niki Sabadarian, Jake Paul's manager and the
co founder of MVP, was on Sky Sports in the
UK today talk about a myriad of things, but the
main thing I wanted to cover today is obviously the
Jake Paul Anthony Joshua rumors and now potentially talk going
on for an actual fight. Like there's a difference between
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Jake Paul saying I want to fight Anthony Joshua and
the rest of us kind of being like, uh, all right, bud.
Although I will say I know Jake's delusion, so I
know that when he says it, he actually will fight.
And I think this is the first time and Jake's
boxing career that his delusion will lead him to a
place that's gonna get him seriously injured. Honestly, this is
what I think. I don't understand why they want to
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take this fight. Hopefully Nikisa can try to convince me
is to any reason. I'm out of that sweet sweet
den arrow aka money Akalla dollar bills, y'all. To me,
there is no feasible answer for this, and I think
it's really gonna get Jake hurt. And again, you know
a lot of people will celebrate that, but I just
don't understand it. So let's take a look at what
Nikisa had to say.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
I think the fight can absolutely happen. I'm looking at
it as Jake versus Joshua, which is quite biblical and
it's quite impactful in many ways.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
All Right, So, first off, Nikisa says he looks at
this as Jake versus Joshua, and you know it has
biblical undertones. I don't know the biblical undertones of Jake
versus Joshua. I know Jacob is essentially Israel, I'm pretty
sure in the Bible, or it has something to do
with like the seed of Abraham. I'm not gonna act
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like I'm a biblical historian, but I'm pretty sure I
remember from Sunday School growing up that Jacob is the
name given to I guess what would become Israel, and
then Joshua is like an assistant of Moses who leads
the Israelites at a certain point through Canaan. I think
I could be wrong. Bible knowers let me know down below,
but I'm not sure how if there was ever a
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Jacob versus Joshua thing in the Bible, I know they
both had significance, but I'm not sure the connection there.
But then again, this could just be Nikisa saying Jake
is a side versus Anthony Joshua, and I don't really
know what to make of that. They would be a
massive fight, like if we're talking about who's a bigger
star in boxing. If they do it in the UK,
it's gonna be Anthony Joshua. He is a draw there
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like almost no boxer is here in America. I think
he's sold out ninety thousand a couple times out there.
I don't know, but anyway, we keep going.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
Get Anthony Joshua.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
I think he is twenty eight and four if I'm
not mistaken, and two of his losses are against Alexander Usik.
Usik weighed in at two hundred and twenty pounds for
those fights. Jake is not Usick. A lot more years
of experience needed to get to that level, but Jake
walks around between two eight and two ten, and he
fought Mike Tyson at two hundred and twenty eight pounds,
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So I think size wise we can get comfortable with it.
And I think experience wise, Jake is learning very fast
and growing, and Joshua is a little long in the tooth, So.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
You know, I listen, I'm all for selling it for
your guy. But the reaches here to make any comparison
between Jake Paul and opponent's than Anthony Joshua has had
and also opponents Jake has had, this is like the
Kisa has grown go go gadget arms and he is
stretching to make these reaches. And again it's what he's
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supposed to do. I get it right. If his client says, listen,
I want to fight Anthony Joshua, and the KISA says
that's probably not a good idea, and his client says, no,
I want to fight Anthony Joshua. You're not hearing me.
Make it happen. And there's really nothing that KISA can
do other than this. Do I think that he believes
Jake can win. I don't know. I don't think any
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sane person believes Jake can win this fight. If you
have any frontal cortex brain matter, you probably think Jake
has less than one percent chance of winning this fight.
But at the same time, the kisa's doing what he's
supposed to do now as far as what he's saying.
Jake weighed in at two twenty eight to fight Mike Tyson.
Usik waded around two twenties to fight Anthony Joshua. He said,
Jake is clearly not usick, but he's getting experience and
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Joshua was a little long in the tooth. Number one
Lex under Usa is one of the greatest boxers we've
ever seen. Cruisewade heavyweight two twenty is a little bit
more natural for him at his age to stay at heavyweight,
which is why he's there, but also his ability to
box allows him as an undersized heavyweight in this era.
Hunder in the seventies and the eighties is not an
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undersized heavy one. George Forman in the seventies is two
hundred and twenty something pounds. You know what I'm saying.
Muhammad al Leive was two sixteenth So in those days,
Usik's not undersized. But in the era of the bigger heavyweight,
the two hundred and fifty pound Anthony Joshua, the two
hundred and forty pound uh Daniel Dubois, the two hundred
and ninety pounds almost three hundred pound Tyson Fury, this
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era of heavyweight is bigger in Usik even with those
bigger guys, able to still hurt them because of his
boxing ability, his speed, elusiveness, is footwork, all the things
that Jake just doesn't have, at least not anywhere close
to the level of being competitive with one of the
more athletic heavyweights. While no, he doesn't have the greatest feet,
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but he has well enough feet to hang with Jake
Paul in a boxing ring. We're talking about Anthony Joshua. Here,
we're not talking about random heavyweight. Jake has sparred in
camp to get ready for fifty eight year old Mike Tyson.
And I just have to say this stuff because it's
you know, if the comparisons are going to be made,
I have to point at the holes in the argument
because that I don't even make them, they're just there,
which is that, Yeah, Okay, Jake was two hundred and
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twenty eight pounds for the Mike Tyson fight, but it
was a two minute per round fight and they went
eight rounds. I know that that wasn't because of Jake,
but at the same time, he's not He shouldn't be
at two hundred and twenty eight pounds. Not great for
his body. Not that he can't hold the weight, but
if he's going to try to go long rounds against
a power, punching, way younger, fast, explosive heavyweight, you want
to call Anthony Joshua long in the tooth. Jake was
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trying to hurt Mike Tyson at least early on in
that fight, and he couldn't do it. And that's fifty
eight year old Mike. And I'm not saying that at
a certain point Jake didn't let off the gas or whatever.
But I watched him in those first couple of rounds
and he was throwing haymakers, he was throwing kill shots
at Mike Tyson and he couldn't hurt him. I'm not
saying Jake can't knock people out or whatever he doesn't
have power. I think Jake does have some power. But
this is heavyweight we're talking about, and it's just you know,
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we just watched him fight against uh Julio Sayser Chivez Junior,
and Chavez was protecting himself, clearly did not want to fight.
Apparently he was using it as a way to just
avoid ICE agents for a couple more days that it
turned himself in. But the point I'm making is Jake
can intimidate a guy like Chavez with his size, with
his speed, with his power and make him go, hey,
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you know what, maybe I don't want to fight this
kid and take any risk. Anthony Joshua is used to
fighting the bigger level of heavyweights, and it's fought the
most skilled heavyweight there is and in the second fight
looked a little better than some other guys have against
Usak Nikisa has to say what he has to say
to make this plausible to even talk about doing, let
alone starting to actually build toward the fight. But it's
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just I don't see it.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
Man.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Could be a very interesting matchup, and we're actively discussing
it with Matroum in.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
Terms of those ads a discussion. So how far things progress?
Speaker 5 (07:40):
Is it something that you can see happening next for
Jake and for AJ.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
I think we're looking at it happening in Q one
of twenty twenty six. Is kind of the current discussion.
I think it's public that Aj was taking a little
time away.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
Think you got a little surgery.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
So once he's ready, and once Jake is ready, we're
gonna squarely focus on that.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
This is what I'm talking about, Dude, Like this has
gone past the point of, well, you know, we may
want it to happen. We even had Turkey Alla Shaik
saying listen, I'll make the fight. I'll put the fight
on because Turkey is so invested in it. He's so
sure that Anthony Josh was gonna beat Jake. He called
it a ninety nine percent to one percent fight because
he likes to put on fifty to fifty fights, right,
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fights that people want to see fights that make the
most sense and are the most competitive. He's not even
trying to hide the fact that he thinks this is
a ninety nine to one and he wants it to happen.
So he's done with the Jake Paul problem. That's what
he said. I respect the honesty. And if you're looking
for AJ to have a build up fight, which is
what everybody's saying, fight to kind of get him back
on the horse before potentially finally hopefully going into the
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Tyson Fury fight. Would you rather him fight Tony Yoka
or would you rather him fight an almost guaranteed win
in Jake Paul. I mean again, it's just it boggles
my mind that this can even happen.
Speaker 6 (08:50):
How much of a worry is that we so hated
too and Gannon so.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Power is obviously the last thing to go. So obviously
AJ has a ton of and he's still fairly young.
Mike Tyson much more vicious of a knockout artist than
Anthony Joshua, much older than AJ.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
But that was a risk that Jake was willing to take.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
No, Na, we just can't. We can't do these kind
of comparisons. You just can't Mike was fifty eight years old,
and yes, what Nikisa's saying is true when you add context,
which is in his prime or even fairly in the
back end of his prime and out of his prime,
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like in the part of his life where he was
completely gone from boxing and gone to prison, come back
strung out, out of shape. Mike even then was probably
a naturally harder, vicious, knockout puncher than AJ has continued
to be. But that's not even what Mike is now.
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We're talking twenty five years after that, twenty five years
after the worst parts of Mike Tyson as a professional.
AJ's not even as washed as Mike was at the
end of his career, like Mike was washed wak at
the end of his actual pro boxing run. It I mean,
he wasn't powerful. But the comparison being made is like
Mike Tyson was anywhere near the threat that we're talking
about here. It wasn't even close. Like, yeah, Mike had
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a shot of hurting Jake, and it was looked at
as somewhat competitive because of Mike's age. We don't look
at this fight as competitive because AJ is a bad
mother when his mind is in a boxing match. Now,
if he shows up like he showed up against Daniel Dubois,
or shows up like he showed up against Andy Ruiz
the second fight, even though he won the fight, it
was the most hesitant, just get through it type of fight.
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If he shows up like that or you know, I
don't know, like the the USIK one fight, then yeah,
we may have a real issue here. Like if AJ's
not focused and he's just doing it whatever and often
la la land, then yeah they may have a problem
because Aj, when he's not locked in just four goes
all boxing and just wings it and bad shit happens
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to him. But if he shows up with any ounce
of respect, any ounce of dignity, any ounce of just
I am going to prove that I'm a professional. And
you can't just walk into this sport and call out
a high level heavyweight as someone that's not even a
true heavyweight and think you're going to win, then he'll
absolutely flatline Jake. So when Akisa is saying stuff like, yeah,
you know, Jake knew going in there with Mike was
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a risk, you're talking like a ninety five or ninety
six percent increase in risk now versus what you were
talking about against Mike Tyson, it's not even close.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Francis Longano amazing MMA fighter, very powerful man, not an
experienced boxer, right, A lot less experienced than Jake Paul.
So if people were comfortable with Francis getting in there
with AJ, Jake who is now thirteen fights in plus
one amateur fight, a lot less than AJ, but much
more than Francis Nngano, I think we're very comfortable with it. Ultimately,
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it's not a fight that I want Jake to do.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
It's a fight that Jake.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
Wants to do, and that's a discussion we've had at length,
and he feels very confident about where he is in
his career and his chances of upsetting Anthony Joshua.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
I mean, listen, that end part is a fair point,
Like you know, Nikisa has to understand the words coming
out of his mouth, or like listen, I'm trying to
do my best to convince you guys of like why
Jake thinks he can win this fight. But I'm gonna
be the first to tell you I didn't want this
fight for I don't know how to even read that,
but I agree with that part to be like, hey, listen,
this is not my choice. In fact, I did not
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want him fighting Anthony Joshua, but we talked and talked
and I tried to He's not saying it, but he's
like I tried to tell him, this is probably not
the best idea, tried to talk to him, maybe, tried
to talk him out of it, and Jake's just not budging.
But again, the comparisons are what I have to go
back to.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
Here.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
You're talking about Francis and Ganu, who, yes, should not
have been in a ring with Anthony Joshua as quick
as he was, shouldn't have been in a ring as
quick as he was with Tyson Fury either, But the
styles make matchups, and like Nikisa said, Francis is a
ridiculously strong puncher, a gifted athlete, a freak of nature. Now, yeah,
Jake has better skills, and he has more experienced, and
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he has thirteen fights and all that's great, But the
same things that plagued Francis potentially and almost certainly can
plague Jake Paul is inexperience at heavyweight, not just in boxing,
but at heavyweight, and having to adjust with a man
like aj who is powerful and is a bit faster
than the other heavyweights outside of USA cracking you with
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a shot that's set up that he actually uses his
jab to create. If AJ again shows up in any
kind of proper form and you get that Aj the
night he fought Francis, it's going to be a train ring.
Speaker 6 (13:30):
Think about disrupting the sport and getting those eyeballs on it.
Jake versus AJ, or Jake versus Joshua, as you call
it at Wembley perhaps sounds pretty good to us. Would
that be the dream venue for a fight like that?
Speaker 2 (13:44):
I think we're looking at multiple options. Wembley's definitely a possibility.
Jake has said he'd like to do it there. He
likes the idea of going in and hearing ninety thousand
people booing him. He kind of feeds off of that.
But we're looking at the US obviously. Saudi Arabia is
also an option in the Middle East as an option
as a whole, but we want to do it in
the most impactful way possible.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
Now listen again, this as a spectacle is going to
draw ridiculous amounts of viewership and for the spectacle of it,
because that's what we're agreeing to this being as we
go into it. Everybody knows this. It'll be an event,
it'll be a spectacle, it'll be must watch for reasons
that probably aren't usually the must watch reasons of boxing.
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Just like Mike Tyson and Jake was, it was a
weird kind of circus clash and that's okay again, I'm
watching this shit. I'm intrigued by it. I want to
see and with Turkey Ola Shake if he's going to
be involved, and I know he said he wants to be,
I think the right idea is to do this in
the UK, do it in Andy Joshua's backyard, do it
at Wimbley R ninety thousand, eighty thousand, whatever it's going
to be. That's the story. And it really sucks to
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me that it's not going to be Jake and Ksi
at Wimbley because that's really the story. That's the one
that honestly should have happened. For those that are not
familiar with the crossover influencer side, that's the fight that's
been on the books and off the books and should
have happened, and it could have happened and didn't happen.
But regardless, US versus UK always sells, and especially when
someone is hated as Jake by the UK audience comes
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into their backyard and they have a guy that they
love and Anthony Joshua. It's a recipe he made in
Boxing Spectacle Heaven. I guess all right, So that's the
Kisa talking about the fight. Now, if that wasn't enough
to convince you that this thing is probably going to
happen more likely than not, I'm saying, I mean, if
I'm putting percentages on it, unless AJ's team and I
saw Ben Davidson. I don't know if he's still coaching AJ,
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but I know he was AJ's coach talking about he
didn't want to see AJ do that. He doesn't he
would rather AJ take more credible fights. And that's also
a fair point and one that a lot of people
are also going to hang on to and say, yeah,
we would rather see him fight Tony Yoka or somebody else.
I have to wait, Yce in fury. I don't know
whoever else outside of something like that happening. I'm putting
this at like a seventy thirty thing. And again, these
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are just my percentages. The way this conversation's going, the
way if you read in between the lines of what
AJ's saying. By by the way, what Eddie Hearn is
saying about you know, yeah, we'll sign it. Yeah, let's
do it right now. Yeah, they want it. Jake wants it.
I don't think Nikisa actually, I don't know if that's
something that he wants. But he's gonna do right by
his client, or at least do what his client's asking
him to do. And then you have this, which again
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just is more ammo, more fuel to the fire for me.
This was I think on Instagram. I'm assuming this was
from the Sky Sports interview. Some random on Instagram commented
underneath it instead, imagine losing to Tommy Fury then thinking
you have a chance to upset Joshua, which is a
fair point. I mean, Jake fought Tommy Fury at what
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one hundred and eighty five pounds and lost. That was
a long time ago. Jake's had a lot of experience
since then, xyz. But you can see why the idea
of him beating Joshua is fucking insane to most people
with a brain. But Nikisa don't like Random's coming at
his boy like that, so he comments underneath it. Imagine
being twenty eight buying a home for forty million freaking
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massive flex pocket watch to the I don't even know
if Jake an noowsd it was of forty million dollar home,
putting on the biggest event in women's boxing history, fighting
in the most viewed boxing event since Ali, and then
fighting AJ soon after. Oh actually, don't imagine it, Jake
Paul did it. So again, I don't know how many
of you guys talk like this when you're just wondering
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about a fight, when you're just negotiating about a fight,
when you're just in talks about a fight, saying things like,
imagine you were fighting in the biggest most viewed boxing
event since Ali, then fought AJ soon after. Oh wait,
don't imagine it, Jake Paul did it. This is almost
a guarantee. Like maybe Nicky's getting ahead of himself a
little bit and just adding things in to hit back
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at a troll, But that seems like almost a freaking
done deep that seems like they're they're this is what's
gonna be happening. So again, I'm not trying to over exaggerate.
I'm not trying to read too much into stuff. I'm
literally just reading the words that are in front of
me and listening to what's being said, I can't believe it.
But they're actually gonna do this shit. This is insane.
They're going to do this fight. I think it's a
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bad idea for Jake. I do and I'm not even
trying to like shit on the fight because again I'm
gonna wat but I just think it's it's there's a
no win situation outside of money, and sure it'll be
a big event. But if Jake's goals are to be
a world champion, which okay, we'll see, I'm still bearish
on that. But if that's the goal outside of the
putting on the big events thing, how do you get
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to that? If you don't get past aj and he
really does a number on you, I have no idea.
And again, is the money worth that kind of risk
to not only this fight but the future. I don't
think so. But comment section, you tell me if I'm crazy.
It seems like it's starting to tilt one way. What
was kind of a joke or at least seem like
that only a few months ago, is now starting to
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become reality again. I said it, just like Eddie Hearn did,
someone could get very badly hurt, and I don't think
it'll be aj looks like this fight's gonna happen. So
you guys, let me know what you think. What's the
percentage you put on this fight actually happening, and if
it does, what happens in it. I don't have those
I mean, I kind of do. I think everybody it does.
Jake's probably gonna get hurt really badly, but we don't know,
not for sure, until they finalize this thing or until
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things actually get set in place. So is Jake gonna
fight Anthony Joshua? I think so, but I don't have
those answers, so I guess we'll find Folks. We are
back on the Way concept presented by The Ring Magazine
with Breaking news today. Well it's about a day old now,
but still breaking news. Chris hu Banks Junior and Connor
beIN are set to rematch and it just got announced,
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so we have to talk about it the breakdown. Let's go,
oh all right, So here it is from The Ring Magazine.
Breaking Ring Magazine has learned Sella completed the deal for
the highly anticipated Chris Eubank Junior versus Connor beIN rematch
on November fifteenth in Tottenham Stadium. The event will be
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presented as the Ring Unfinished Business, not gonna lie. They
kind of did finish the businesses the first time around.
I mean Christy Bank Junior won, but it was a
great fight. It was probably fight of the year or
one of the fights of the year what we've seen
this year in twenty twenty five. But that being said,
it was interesting and there was always supposed to be
a rematch clause, so we're running it back. Also, the
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event will be promoted by Sela and sponsored by Riad
Season and The Ring Magazine. Here is the article. First
it was off, then on, then off again. Now the
rematch between at Christian Bank Junior and connor Bin is
officially back on. The Ring has learned. The deal to
see them run it back from their April twenty six
showdown was completed through Sella on Tuesday. They will have
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approximately three months to prepare for their sequel to take
place on November fifteenth in Tottenham Stadium in the United Kingdom. Right,
so this is interesting because we didn't know we were
gonna get this, it looked like because they were originally
supposed to have the rematch in September and that was
gonna be set in stone. That was how it was
going to go. And then christ yu Bank Junior's team,
I guess wasn't on board or he wasn't on board,
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and they couldn't get the deal done. So it looked
like we were moving on. You know, Connor Ben stay
at one forty seven, potentially looking to fight big fight.
It's at one forty seven, Ryan Garcia out there, who knows.
And then for Chris Ubank Junior, we didn't really know
is he gonna fight again, is he gonna hang him up?
Is he gonna look to move back to one sixty
eight and try to compete at a higher level there,
And we just didn't get any answers, you know, we
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just we we really did not know. So having this
thing back on is great. Like I wouldn't have minded it.
They moved on from it. But this is great. You know, rematch,
a highly contested fight the first time around, tons of
drama leading into the fight, and you know, we do
have to talk about a lot of that. It's not
said here. In fact, on the website at the end
of the article, it says that it is unclear if
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the rematch will once again take place at one hundred
and sixty pounds, but it's believed that the way in
terms will remain the same. This is gonna be obviously
something very controversial for people because the first fight was
already controversial, a lot of people thinking Chris Hubang Junior
shouldn't still be fighting at one hundred and sixty pounds
because it looks like it's a pretty tough weight cut
for him. And then because this is not a natural
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hundred seat pounder in Connor Benn. Then you also have
the rehydration clause from the first fight that was a
massive controversy, so much so that chrisian Bank Junior actually
missed weight. Uh it was a half of a pound
or a half of a half of a pound, I'm
not exactly sure the number, but he missed and it
cost him five hundred thousand dollars. That was insane the
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first time around. And again the rehydration clause makes it
very difficult on I guess he'll be thirty five, maybe
thirty six year old. Chris u Bank clearly is not
a natural one sixty anymore. But then again you have
Connor beIN coming up from one forty seven. He's not
supposed to be fighting at one sixty and it's just
a it's a it's a weird fight. It is as
far as like trying to make it. It's an odd one.
But I can't lie to you if I I want
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to see it, right, I do want to see the rematch.
I thought both men looked great in the first fight.
I thought Chris Hubank Junior pulled out a gutsy performance
and was able to withstand some nasty, I mean, earth
shattering punches from Connor Ben. People talking about his power
not carrying up to one sixty. It may not again
to other people, but against Christian Bank Junior, he was
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lighting him up with some of those shots, and u
Bank not only weathered the storm, but hit him back
with even more big shots and then outclassed him on
the way to a victory. So it is up to
connor Ben to change the tide here in the rematch.
And I'm gonna go ahead and say this because it's
at one sixty, because I've now seen the first fight
and the skill gap was not as big as I
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thought it would potentially be. If connor Ben was gonna
be outmatched, he was. He was outclassed, out boxed in
that fight, but the skill gap wasn't bigger than the
amount that connor Ben can make up for, or you know,
maybe a better approach, maybe a more technical approach, a
more set up approach, because throughout the fight, all we
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watched was connor Ben throw hammers. There was not a
lot of set up punching from connor Ben. There was
a lot of hooks, right hands, straight punches, gab right hand,
but there wasn't a lot of faint jab right ann
wasn't a lot of double jab right hand. Wasn't a
lot of jab work really in total from connor Been
the first time around. And I'm gonna be honest, I
don't know if we be able to see much different
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from Chris you Bank Junior in the rematch. I don't
know that there's much that he can show us in
a rematch that we didn't already see from him. And
I'm not he won the fight. He could probably do
what he did in the first fight and still win.
But I just think that the ceiling is kind of
what we saw from Christian Bank Junior. I don't know
that he has much more to push past what we saw,
or I don't know if he didn't have his greatest
night of fighting. He probably could have boxed more and
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traded less. If we want to say, you know what's
a more safe route for Chris, you Bank Junior, and
one that again him being the more technically skilled. It
looked like in the first fight, and that's how he won.
Maybe in a rematch he's more safe and stays behind
his jab and doesn't look to engage as much and
plays more defense and you know, drags out a decision.
That way definitely could be the case, or just out
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boxes connor Ben. It doesn't take as many risks because
he took some unnecessary risks. I mean, I mean, I
don't know if you even want to call him unnecessary,
because those things needed to have for connor Ben to
get stopped in his tracks a little bit and for
Chris Junior to gain some respect and be able to
have some offense. He needed to stop the wild swings.
He needed to stop the big time power of Connor
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Ben and sit in the pocket with him, you know,
not all the fight, but multiple times to re establish
that it was his fight. To slow connor Ben down,
to back him off and take center of the ring again.
He had to do a little bit of that. So
this time around, will we see much different from you Bank?
I just don't know that there's much different he can bring. Yeah,
he can box you on the front foot, box you
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on the back foot, sit down in the pocket. But
think that's what he kind of already did the first
time around. Again, maybe more defensive. We'll see. But I'm
gonna be honest with you guys when I think about
this fight way too early, because again we're about three
months away. The same factors that worried you in the
first fight for Chris Ubank Junior, even though he won,
are gonna be the same ones that worry you again
in this rematch. I think out of the two of them, yeah,
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I mean Connor Benn going to one sixties, not his
natural weight class, he shouldn't be there either. But out
of the two of them, the person that's gonna be
more compromised that that way is probably Chris Youubank Junior,
not even probably is Chris Hubang Junior because of again
the amount of weight he's cutting and the rehydration clause.
It's hard to put weight on, for sure, but depriving
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yourself of water and cutting weight and then depriving yourself
for water longer do you hydrating yourself? You know, it's
just not I mean, we saw he got he's probably
getting in trouble with the British Boxing Board of Control
for the sauna suit and him showing how the weight
cut affected it. It's one of the worst practices in
combat sports. I've said it for so long now, but
it's just it is what it is. Weight cutting is
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definitely a deterrent. More so I think especially in this matchup,
because I don't see Chris you Bank having the power
to do much in terms of shaking Connor Bin at
least we didn't see that in the first fight. I
think he's the one that's going up against the eight
ball again more than Connor Ben. I think he's sacrificing more.
But with that being said, this is why I think,
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and again way too early prediction, I'm gonna go Connor
Ben again. I picked him in the first fight and
again he was moments away from having some big time
success and you hurt Chris Huban Junior with a couple
of punches there, but for the most part, you Bank
Junior ran away with it and the ol boxed him
and Connor Binn I thought didn't have a solid approach
to landing his big time power because it was all
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power shots. It was all Haymakers for the entirety of
the fight. There was no speed in defense transition. There
was no let me take some speed off of this
one and use it as a range finer than by
Bajam and speed it back up and add some power
to it. It was just hammers. And I think he
knows and in a rematch, if he can do a
little bit different, if you can make some adjustments to
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his game and keep that same tenacity and keep that
same power and keep that same ferociousness forward and trying
to take center of the ring and take the fight
to Chris you Bank Junior. I think he's got a
great chance of win in this fight, and I'm gonna
pick him to win this fight here. I don't know.
I just think there's more opportunity for him to grow.
He is the younger fighter, less experience, but that fight
gave him a ton of experience and now he knows
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the size isn't a big deal and it's not something
where he's overmatched size wise. Yeah, Chris you Bank Junior
can take some of his punches better than a one
forty seven pounder could, but he still rocked him with
big time shots. And again, I just think a tweak
and how he approaches the offense and a bit of
more head movement defense, a bit more slipping punches, encountering
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off ERSU is trading in the pocket for Connor Benn
will will lead him to the promised land here. And
I just think there's too many things that Chris you
Bank Junior. He's up against the eight ball with the
weight cut, the age, the hydration, the damage from the
first fight. He took some real damage. Both guys did,
but it looked like Chris you Bank Junior took more damage.
I mean, the good thing for you Bank Junior is
that he's felt probably the most that he could probably
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feel as far as power from Connor Benn. He's felt
what it's like to get hit with a real flush shot.
I mean, he got clipped a couple different times, so
he knows kind of what to look out for. And
again he may fight a more defensive, safe fight this
time around, but I'm leaning Connor Ben and I know
people aren't gonna like that pick, but I just think
there's too many things going against Chris you Bank Junior
in this rematch, and Connor Ben has some stuff going
against him too, I guess with the weight, but everything else,
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the youth, the speed, the power he has that he
just needs to be able to box a little better.
And that's the big question of how this fight will go.
Because the boxing experience and the technical skill right now
clearly go to Chris you Bank Junior. I do think
Connor Bin can make up a little bit of that
gap and fight a bit of a smarter fight this
time around. That's just my initial thoughts on the fight.
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I do wonder how this is gonna go. You know,
they both still don't like each other, mutual respect from
the first fight, and the first fight with such a banger.
I don't know how easy it's gonna be for the
second fight to live up to it. Like it's gonna
be really difficult to replicate that night. The moment here
comes Chris you Bank Senior. He's in the corner. After
being against the fight for months and months, and that
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whole thing, and again the fathers of the two sons
being there, history repeats itself, that whole deal. I don't
know if the hype is going to deliver like it
did in the first fight, But if it comes anywhere
close and they just have another good scrap, then this
is well worse for the fan. Again, a massive risk
for both fighters because they're fighting at weights they normally
shouldn't be at anymore. And I do wonder how Chris
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you Bank Senior sees this. Ultimately, he came around and
was there on fight night. Whether you want to believe
that was because it was a work or because he
just wanted to be there for his son or whatever, right,
he was there. But this time they've knowingly done the
first one. What does he think about this one?
Speaker 3 (30:24):
Right?
Speaker 1 (30:24):
And I know Nigel Ben will be there for Connor,
we know that. But yeah, when I talked to Connor
when when we were in New York, he was dead
set on doing the rematch, and it was like there
was no doubt in his mind that he was gonna
win it. And then he also had some other ideas
for one forty seven. So it has to be now
for Connor Ben, for Chris you Bank Junior, and for
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this rematch, it has to be now because again you
Bank Junior is getting older. Connor Ben needs to get
his one forty seven career back on track. He needs
to go back down and really if he wants to
be a world champ, get more experienced down there against
top level guys. But if they were gonna do it,
now is the time. You couldn't really wait till the
end of the year because then you're really starting to
put a distance between both guys and what they're trying
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to do in their perspective careers. But listen, this one's
gonna be controversial. I'm not gonna lie to you and
say that that there's not disadvantages on both sides and
that it is a bit of an odd fight for
both guys, but it was the first time and it
created match. I'm also not gonna lie and say I'm
not excited for this, because I am. I am excited
for it. I'm sorry, I do want to watch a
rematch between the two. Even though we did get a
definitive first fight, it was a good back and forth
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and Connor bid did show a good fight. Chris hu
Bank Junior did everything he did to put Ben back
in his spy and showcase his ability. I just think
this time around it's gonna be a different story because
this time around, Connor Beinn's gonna win it again two
early predictions and I'm a flip flop, but for now
I'm all un steady. I think Connor gets him this
time around, for the youth, for speed and power, for now,
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the experience of being in there at that way against
Chris Hubank Junior. I think he has more ways to
get better and less things to overcome than Chris Hubank
Junior to get this one done in the second time around.
I don't know if that sets up a trilogy. I
have no idea, but I do want to see this fight.
I am excited for this fight. It is back Chris
Ubank Junior Connor been the rematch, and it's gonna be
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in Tottenham Stadium again, which the turnout was incredible for
last time. I was there live myself and my guy
true Jeordi. So I don't know exactly how that'll look
this time around. I don't know what the undercard is
gonna look like this time around, but they had a
great one in the first especially my boy that al Riley.
Can he get on that undercard and get his fight
again in his home stadium in Tottenham, I have no idea,
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And also who wins think the way it will be
one sixty. I don't know for sure. And Chris you
Bank Senior, will he be there? Nigel the whole thing. Listen.
I only have questions right now, but we do have
one answer, and that is the rematch is official. What
do you think about this fight? Let me go down below.
And as far as who wins on the night, don't
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have those answers either, but I guess we'll find out
all right, folks, we are Bad on the Way concept
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down almost a week ago. Now I don't know how
I didn't see this, but I definitely missed it between
Salt Poppy and Tony Ferguson for Misfits twenty two what
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Ferguson Salt Poppy. It also has Dylan Danis versus Warren
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the Mechanic Spencer and Misfits first fourier into MMA. Today,
I want to get into the face to face that
happened between Super Salt Poppy and Tony Ferguson because listen,
this fight is interesting for multiple reasons. I want to
see if there's any mental games being played or whatever
else we can take away from Tony Ferguson's mindset. Really
(34:00):
just want to see where Tony's mind is because I
think I know where Salt Poppy is. I know what
he's going to bring to this fight when he's super dangerous.
But I want to see what does Tony Ferguson have.
What is he thinking is going to be different this
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all right, So let's check us out. Tony Ferguson saw
(36:05):
Poppy face to face with our guy Bale running the show.
Let's see what happened.
Speaker 7 (36:10):
This dude made that walk. I'm making the walk for
my first time. You have a fights and I have zero.
Everybody's underwriting me. They're they're saying he gonna knock me
out and everything ninety percent. Tony, You're fighting a fucking influt.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
If we're gonna get to Tony Ferguson math again, ninety percent. Also,
they were supposed to they're supposed to be using these
subtitles to say what he actually said. Tony keeps saying
people are underwriting him. I think he means to say
that people are underestimating him for this fight. I'm not
sure who's Tony's underwriter, but I don't I don't know
that he understands what that word means.
Speaker 8 (36:40):
Everybody's underwriting me.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
There, they even said underestimated. They got you, Tony, those
cap sh saved.
Speaker 7 (36:46):
You mean they're saying he gonna knock me out and everything.
Ninety percent, Tony, you're fighting a fucking influence. So there
goes the other twenty percent, but all fucking negative.
Speaker 1 (36:54):
He did it again, not even into the video. It's
just a preview, and Tony is saying that ninety again.
Someone needs to get with Tony Ferguson and let him
know that ninety percent plus twenty percent is not one
hundred percent, it's one hundred and ten. Maybe he just
thinks one hundred and ten percent is how his life is, right,
one hundred and ten percent effort, one hundred and ten
(37:14):
percent of fans, one hundred and ten percent of profit.
I don't know he Tony has got his own way
of doing things, so maybe it's just, you know, his
inner working's coming out.
Speaker 7 (37:22):
Any person has got the fucking balls to walk through
the door and to stay there is a fucking fighter, bro.
I'm gonna go walk through an August thirtyth then I'm
gonna handle everything that I need to go and get
that victory.
Speaker 5 (37:33):
Have you watched any of its fights? And what do
you make of him?
Speaker 4 (37:38):
Dangerous? I'm dangerous, so you know this is your biggest smile.
Speaker 1 (37:43):
I'm gonna say we're thirty two seconds in. I don't
know is this like a preview because Salt has said nothing,
which again I don't expect him to say anything, but
like Tony is carrying right now. Also, Tony's pants look
like like football pants with like thigh pads of them.
Speaker 5 (37:57):
I love it, Tony, So it's a pleasure see you both.
To be honest, I'm so surprised I'm seeing this face
off right now when.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
I'm not gonna lie. I don't even know Saul Poppy's
actual name. That's crazy. I've known him for like five
years now, and I don't know his name. I'm the
asshole in this situation, but just hearing Tony so I
don't know his name.
Speaker 4 (38:14):
It's got announced.
Speaker 5 (38:15):
I had to double check, I had to refresh, I
think the whole world of refreshing because they didn't believe
this was gonna happen. So so I'm actually gonna come
to you first. When you got that phone call from
Mam Taylor to say you were fighting this man, that
you will fight a former UFC interim champion, what was
your reaction to that?
Speaker 9 (38:32):
I mean, I were shock, like I really can't be
there because and obviously not a lot of people get
this type of opportunity, and so I'm like, I'm so
grateful for Misfit Boxing for giving me this fight, big fights,
back to back, and yeah, when when I heard that
I was gonna fight Tony Ferguson, there's there's something I
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couldn't say. Now I'm gonna be sharing that with a legend,
legendary fighter, and yeah, I can wait.
Speaker 4 (38:59):
That's it. I'm toning. I ask you the same question
when you've got the crew.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
Misfits does clearly think of Salt Poppy as like a superstar.
You look at his social numbers, they're ridiculous, Like he
does have a high level of social interaction. He's got charisma,
he's got swagger, he can fight, So they look at
him as someone that can take over the mantle potentially,
you know, to some degree with I think it's gonna
be more than one person that's gonna have to fill
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the void of KSI when he stops fighting. But so
Poppy they look at as one of those guys. Even
after the Slim loss, even after the Anthony Taylor loss,
they look at him as a guy to lead whatever
they're going toward in the next two three years. So yeah,
I mean, he keeps getting these massive opportunities because he
does deliver, even in losses. He delivers fun fights. So
they clearly see him as a star, which is why
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he's gotten this opportunity.
Speaker 5 (39:45):
And he said, you're fighting Salt Poppy. Did you even
know who Salt Poppy was?
Speaker 4 (39:50):
Daniel, right, Nathan, Nathan, Tony.
Speaker 1 (39:52):
Nathan Okay, I forgot, yes, he's he's told me his
name before. He said Daniel, Me and Tony bo. Look
at the respect from Tony years. I didn't know when
it goes in Nathan Okay, all right, we do it.
Salt Poppy is a good stage name right.
Speaker 7 (40:09):
To the YouTube and it goes into influencers and TikTok.
I don't have anything against it. I'm gonna be real.
I wasn't competing when everybody was doing everything. I was
saved it for when it really mattered like now, which
is pretty cool. So I mean nothing against you. I
really don't know, but I know you have what a fights,
a fight style. You have a fights and I have zero.
This is my pro debut. I was never allowed to box,
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so it's different. And MMA it's different. We have no
shoes in MMA and we have to worry about takedowns,
so now it's different.
Speaker 8 (40:39):
It's not opportunity for me to be able.
Speaker 7 (40:41):
To go in there play another sport, come from multi
sport background when it comes to that way. So it's
awesome as soon as I got the phone call to
be able to box. Nothing against GFL that's still there,
but I don't Indians stay busy.
Speaker 8 (40:53):
I like I like the fight. I like to come.
Speaker 1 (40:54):
I don't know if anybody needs to let Tony know,
but GFL is not still there. Sorry, don like you
know I know that Tony was supposed to be one
of the big signees at GFL, and I think he
was even supposed to fight Dylan Danis. I'm not sure,
but someone has to let Tony know that shit is
not happening. That ship has not only sailed, it set
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sail and crashed immediate nobody's protecting their neck at GFL.
It's not happening, dude.
Speaker 7 (41:20):
And this dude went from a lot of big heavyweight
all the way down to where he's at. And I
don't think a lot of people give social media influencers
a lot of credit because in athletes.
Speaker 1 (41:29):
Now, sorry, I gotta stop again. What did Dylan say
in my interview about what Salt Poppy was? Because Tony's
talking about, you know, Salt Poppy losing weight and he
started at heavyweight now he's come down to I think
they're fighting at like one sixty one seventy. I'm not sure,
but when I asked Dylan White wasn't fighting Tony, he said, Tony,
Tony's fighting someone that started fat to skinny. Don't even
(41:50):
know what Tony's doing. Let's find someone that started fat
to skinney. Dylan's the man I know y'all hate him,
but he's a goat.
Speaker 7 (41:56):
Dude in my opinion, and we're gonna go in there.
He's gonna try to hit me. I'm gonna so it's
gonna go out there.
Speaker 4 (42:01):
Have you watched any of its fights?
Speaker 3 (42:03):
Of course?
Speaker 4 (42:03):
What do you make of them? Salpa dangerous?
Speaker 8 (42:08):
I'm dangerous.
Speaker 4 (42:10):
Can he cause you any issues?
Speaker 8 (42:12):
Not unless I want him to?
Speaker 4 (42:14):
How about you? You've seen seeing his fight?
Speaker 1 (42:16):
Yeah, I'm not gonna lie. Salt Poppy can cause Tony
some issues, regardless if he wants him to or not.
I don't think Tony has taken him lightly. I don't
really know what the last thing you want to do,
especially when you come over as an MMA guy to boxing.
We've talked about it in NASA. To take these guys
lightly because they haven't trained as long in martial arts,
or they're not as committed to the sports as some
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of these high level veterans were or are, is a mistake. Again,
I'm not saying Tony's doing this, but sal Poppy has power,
the speed, the timing to cause Tony some real problem.
And yeah, Tony can can be dangerous for sure. You know, uh,
whatever he's got left, I don't know. We'll see, but
out of the two of them in a boxing ring,
I am leaning to it, not even leaning. I am
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fully thinking that salt is.
Speaker 9 (43:01):
I've seen a lot of his fights, Like you know, Yes,
it's a big step up for me, it's a big
challenge for me. But yeah, this will prove that I'm
ready for the big challenge, like Tony.
Speaker 5 (43:11):
Have you seen the online reaction to this as well?
I mean it's been going all over Twitter. This is
really you said he's gonna knock me out?
Speaker 9 (43:17):
Yes, I just like, I just can't believe what defense
is saying because look at you, sick thirty eight, forty six,
Tony is only forty one. It's gonna be strong as hell,
and I'm gonna have to like you and I'm gonna
be struggling.
Speaker 3 (43:32):
Yeah for sure.
Speaker 1 (43:34):
Yeah, that converison don't work many pakyaw at forty six,
that was an anomaly that was insane to see. By
the way, a lot about how good Manny was as
a boxer eight division world champion, not an MMA fighter
that's forty one, that's already declining in his own sport,
and declined in his own sport to then come over
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and start boxing. You're talking about Manny pak Yao, who
even at the end of his career was still fighting,
you know, losing some fights, but fighting at around the
top level, and then came back and fought Mario Barrios
is probably one of the worst champions in boxing, but
still I thought won the fight. Was sick at thirty
eight again, been boxing all his life, is a world
class probably one of the best boxers you've ever seen.
(44:17):
So to act like, oh yeah, I can't believe the
fans were saying Tony's gonna get slept when Tony has
never boxed and he's forty one and he's on like
a seven fight losing streak in MMA, that's insane. I
want Salt to address though, and Tony's like, yeah, you
said you gonna knock me out. Say it to him.
Salt loves to talk like talk in the ring. He
will talk his shit in the ring. But this one,
(44:38):
he even said he's gonna knock Tony out. I want
to see him, you know, yeah, I A'm gonna knock
you out. Yeah, yeah, here's why. But he's not he's
not addressing that. I want to see him address though.
Speaker 7 (44:46):
He says that knock me out, so I've got fuel
for the fire to be able to train for the
last four years in MMA, like when Kobeebe and Connor
never wanted to fight because those fucking guys are pussies.
You stepped them forward in the line and you're yeah, yeah.
A lot of people they just do it like a
lot of the fights didn't interest me. And this is
a new sport. It's a new avenue for me to
be able to go if I want to go play
pro baseball later on whatever, I'm talking to my agent,
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this is another avenue for me.
Speaker 1 (45:09):
Tony Ferguson just say he wants to go play pro
baseball later on. I love Tony, I do, and I
love his childlike aspiration to do all the things he
never got to do as a youngster as a child.
But you are not playing professional baseball at forty two
three whenever later on is no in no world and
no fantasy is that happen. I love him, and I
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hope he tries. I really do not even like I'm not.
I'm not trying to see her and laugh at Tony.
That's not the thing. I just love the fact that
he doesn't ever give up honestly, I love it. It
bewilders me. It's nonsensical. It will not happen him playing
at a professional level unless it's like a you know,
a farm league team that kind of gives him the
Michael Jordan treatment, like all right, try it. But I
just love that he's like, O, can I still gonna
(45:52):
do these things? My age doesn't matter? Like I love that.
It's just that will not happen.
Speaker 7 (45:55):
And like I said, I'm not gonna bullshit in no more,
I can't. So I can't standbag anymore.
Speaker 5 (46:00):
So Tony said that you said you were gonna knock
him out.
Speaker 4 (46:03):
Now he's in front of you. Do you still believe that?
Speaker 1 (46:05):
Good question?
Speaker 9 (46:06):
I mean, I don't have a lucky one punch knockout,
and that's all I can do.
Speaker 3 (46:09):
Really.
Speaker 4 (46:10):
If it happens, it happens.
Speaker 1 (46:12):
But yeah, oh Salt's playing like, oh yeah, I just
got the lucky one punch. Why is he doing that?
We all know that you're better than a lucky one
punch knockout, and if it happens, it happens. Just just
be about it, you know what I'm saying. Talk to
your stuff. This isn't like a you trying to disrespect
Tony thing. And I know Salt likes to be respectful
and not talk, but he's kind of playing like, oh
(46:34):
I am just the influencer da type of thing. I
wish he would kind of stand on business with it
and be like, yeah, you know, listen, I think he
I think I could touch him on the chain. You know,
he's agreed, he's a legend in the UFC, and you know,
I appreciate him for that or whatever. But he's coming
into my realm and I'm gonna show him why this
game is different. That wouldn't be him disrespecting Tony. That
would just be stating, matter of factly what he wants
to do. I want to see that because I know
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he's confident in what he's gonna do. I just don't
know why I won't say.
Speaker 4 (46:58):
It, Tony, You fool people.
Speaker 5 (47:00):
Popo is a Pettis Gate sheep the top of the
food chain.
Speaker 4 (47:04):
Why now Salt Pappy?
Speaker 7 (47:06):
Because Nathan's cool man, Like he's enough to be able
to want to go out there and put his record.
Speaker 1 (47:10):
On the line. And he was like, yeah, Daniel's pretty
cool guy. He's like, oh shit, Nathan.
Speaker 7 (47:15):
To anybody else that doesn't understand the complexity of walking
through a fucking boxing gindor how hard it is. It's
easier to stay there, it's harder to walk through there.
Get that first initial walk through there. This dude made
that walk. I'm making the walk for my first time.
My nervous Yeah, I was a little nervous. This is boxing.
But if I didn't have that nervous energy, doesn't matter.
If I had him or anybody else in front of it,
I'm not gonna fucking do it. I wasn't even feel
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enough for end the Man anymore, and it was just
fucking boring a shit to me. It's just like I
was just doing it just to fucking do it so
people can see me compete until we both parted ways
in a good.
Speaker 8 (47:46):
Not cut both ways. If I got my shit and
I wanted.
Speaker 7 (47:48):
My stuff and I go back, yeah, maybe I got
other things to accomplish and I'm gonna go out there
in August thirtieth, then I'm gonna handle everything that I
need to go and get that victory.
Speaker 1 (47:56):
What's fired up, man, he's fired up? Yeah. Listen, Tony
left the UFC. Maybe you know the way they I
don't know. I don't know how it was done, but
it was the right decision for the UFC obviously to
not have Tony in any more fights because he was
losing consistently, taking tons of damage consistently, you know, and Tony,
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it just didn't whether he wasn't into it or not anymore,
he was going to continue losing fight. The competition level
in the game had just passed him by. That's really
simply all it was. Whether they cut him, whether he left,
doesn't really matter. It was a good decision. So I'm
glad he's If he's gonna compete in combat sports, I'm
glad he's doing this versus doing that, if that makes sense,
probably making a shit ton more money over here. I
(48:37):
mean again, the danger when you step into combat sports
is there regardless. So the people that are upset about
him continuing to fight, this would have happened in the UFC,
It would have happened in any other boxing match. It
would have happened to kickboxing, So I get it. But
at the same time, if he wants to compete, this
is probably the best option.
Speaker 5 (48:52):
For him, transition being like from MMA to boxing, because
you mentioned multiple times now that it's a completely different sport,
So how are you going to transition in this time
getting someone that's already had eight flights and still have
the chance.
Speaker 7 (49:02):
I've been wanting to box since I was little. I
was never allowed to h I grew up in Michigan.
My pop's raised me military in the country, and I
was able to have heavy bags unless I bought five
bottom and speed bags. I'm hitting the speed backs since
I was about fourteen, thirteen fifteen something like that, and
I would always break my bags and stuff. But I
was My pop tells me, He's like, I'm not paying
for your school. You're gonna go to college. He's like,
(49:24):
in my roof, you're gonna go to college. He's like,
you're gonna play sports in order to get yourself a scholarship.
And I did pick my choice and I did that.
Now s I all of my stuff kind of like
went down, and I've collected every single side quest. You
play video games, you understand side quests, you understand all
this kind of shit. I did everything from Knockout of
the Night, Submission, Night Fight of the Year, Ultimate Fighter,
Troll Feet, the UFC Bell Like, I'm dude, I've gone
(49:47):
all of this shit. I don't really care because I'd
love that stuff, but I want to collect more. I
got bunch of medals for wrest and I got national championship,
state championship football ring for wrestling, and like, like.
Speaker 1 (49:59):
Does Tony where his high school football state championship ring around? Hell? Yeah, dude,
I actually kind of with that because I've no I mean,
my little brother what a state title?
Speaker 4 (50:10):
And I don't.
Speaker 1 (50:10):
I don't even think he knows where his ring is,
Like you could tell he I don't know that Tony
wanted to be a mixed martial artists. I don't know
that he like the way he talks about other sports
he wants to do. Maybe he just wanted to play
a ton of different sports. He wants to be an athlete.
He talks about football, he talks about wrestling, talks about baseball,
talks about boxing. This is him again, being a big kid,
getting to live out his dream of doing the other
sports he never got to do as a as a
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as a kid. I think that's a cool storyline.
Speaker 7 (50:33):
I like collecting shit and I don't like collecting losses.
I had to demonstrate to everybody what humility was so
that way everybody could understand the nob he's perfect and
if they took it with the grain of salt, maybe
they learned something.
Speaker 4 (50:44):
So when you hear with these accolades, I.
Speaker 1 (50:45):
Don't know what that meant from Tony. He said he
had to demonstrate humility so everybody can understand how to
take a loss. Is he like, is he acting like, Oh,
I had to lose so I could show people how
to lose. I don't think he wanted to lose those fights.
I don't know. Can I'm just I don't know. Sometimes
Tony saying and stuff. I'm like, maybe it's going over
my head.
Speaker 4 (51:01):
I don't know, and you see what it's achieved.
Speaker 5 (51:03):
How do you maintain the confidence and the calmness that
you have right now?
Speaker 9 (51:07):
Cook said, yeah, and yeah I do. I do have
a chances because I do have one punch knackleut power
and yeah, we'll just see what happened in August thirty
eight and I'll be ready for the best.
Speaker 4 (51:20):
Tony Ferguson, is that how you win the fight? It's
through a knockout punch.
Speaker 9 (51:25):
I can I can try a win like you know,
by points, but I always want to go for the
knocklout because of the knackleut bonus.
Speaker 7 (51:33):
There a knockout bonus. Yes, you know I was broke
when I was in the Open Fighter. I was broken
the Open Fighter. I went there like my wife was
helping me pay my rent and my ship, and I
go in there. Ramsey Nigel said this, he's like five
K baby, because.
Speaker 8 (51:44):
He went in there and you finished somebody.
Speaker 4 (51:46):
It's I.
Speaker 8 (51:50):
Was like, yeah, we'll go make a rent.
Speaker 4 (51:54):
Now there's some Fighter of the night as well. Fight
off not.
Speaker 8 (51:58):
Yeah, two chances fifty k. It's a big deal.
Speaker 4 (52:01):
Maybe we can make them double it went across all
of the bucks. That tells you that they can't.
Speaker 1 (52:05):
Yeah, I mean, listen, that's a cooler answer from Salt
Poppy like yeah, I maybe could win, even though he's
still trying to play coy, like, ah, you know, I
just got the one knockout punch. That's really all I got. Bullshit,
but saying like yeah, listen, I want to finish the fight.
I want to get that knockout bonus. And then Tony
being like, let's double it. Man's open your pocket books.
I open up the wallet, got the check, they can
(52:26):
knock you out.
Speaker 4 (52:26):
What's your reaction to that?
Speaker 7 (52:28):
Nothing I've played I've been wrestling for a long time,
in freestyle wrestling where you had to stand next to
your opponent, right, So I've had people mean, mug me,
try to be my best friend, hate me, fucking not
say shit, doing all this stuff. And I've got thousands
of wrestling matches with shoes on.
Speaker 8 (52:46):
Different So.
Speaker 1 (52:50):
He has a good point, Like when Salt says he
wants to knock Tony out, Tony's like, I've heard it all,
Like it doesn't bother me. I've had people try to
be nice, be mean, not say anything mean mugby. Then
he adds the with the shoes on part. I know
he's fighting in shoes and it is different than fighting
not with shoes on. But I don't know what the
if he thinks the ultimate difference between MMA and boxing
is I get to wear shoes. I mean, that's not it.
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But he keeps focusing on the shoes. Maybe he just
has some sick boxing shoes he wants to wear. He's like, Yo,
I'm showed up at Jordan's Amanda Serado style. What's up, dude.
Finally I'm been trying to wear Jordan all my fights.
Speaker 5 (53:24):
No, this is your biggest moment on the stage when
it comes to misfits boxing, Yeah, how are you gonna
deal with that pressure, the anxiety, the nuts.
Speaker 7 (53:32):
I can't draw a line on this shit and everything
like that. Any person's got the fucking balls to walk
through the door and to stay there is a fucking fighter. Bro, Like,
I'm not even playing anymore. I don't give a shit.
And that's the hardest part is getting off your fucking couch,
getting off your ass, and getting into a fucking gym.
I went to the boxing gym over here. It was
twelve three or some fucking gym. The guy didn't know
who the fuck I was. For one, I didn't give
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a shit.
Speaker 8 (53:53):
I'm just there.
Speaker 7 (53:54):
I was asking if I could hit the boxing. He's like,
and he brust it out his laptop and see if
he could make a schedule like calling this guy. I'm like,
I just fucking walked over the bag and kind of
hit it, and I was like, no, this isn't where
I want to be. You kind of understand where like, well,
people they kind of think like that, that's not who
I want to be, who they can fuck off. And
I can understand You've probably been in the same way
because everybody's underwriting me, they're saying he gonna knock me
out and everything.
Speaker 1 (54:13):
I'm so the question was asked to Salt Poppy. He
didn't even answer. Tony starts talking about how he walked
into a gym in the UK and the guy didn't
know him, so he was trying to figure out if
he could let him in. Tony touched the bag and
got a bad vibe and it's like, I don't want
to be here. They can go I have no idea,
what the fuck's going on? What the hell's happening here?
Speaker 7 (54:36):
Can understand you've probably been in the same way because
everybody's underwriting me, they're saying he gonna knock me out
and everything. Ninety percent, but everybodys saying Tony, you're fighting
a fucking influencer. So there goes the other twenty percent,
but all fucking negative, like come on.
Speaker 1 (54:49):
Yeah, it's Poppy said, yeah, Like, I don't know what
the fuck just say to that. The overall message from
Tony is like, yeah, I'm I'm pissed that people think
this influencer is gonna knock me out, and then something
about the fact that you know, ninety percent think that
I can't even fight anyway. But the other twenty, even
(55:10):
though it should be ten, think that the influencer is
gonna knock me out because he's better than me in
boxing too. So he's frustrated. I get it, but he's
not articulating it very well. It's all Bobby's confused.
Speaker 4 (55:22):
Why I can just do my best? Man, I'm gonna
do my best.
Speaker 3 (55:25):
That's it.
Speaker 8 (55:26):
Get me heated. I'm supposed to get mad at him,
but I'm not.
Speaker 7 (55:30):
Like, Look, when it goes into an athlete, we're gonna
both prepare and we're gonna do our shit. We're gonna
go out there and you guys are gonna have a
fucking amazing show. So you guys need to fucking buy
that ship. Don't stream like fucking whenever I fight. I
know you guys are buying the ship. I just fucking
know him because you guys have that much respect for me.
I'm that og when it comes into this original genius
kind of shit. So by the pay per view, yeah,
(55:51):
pay per views, man, Like seriously, like a lot of
people fuck him whatever they gotta think and shit like that.
You've got a couple fighters that are on this car.
They're gonna go out there, they're gonna give it the shit.
I'm just fighting. But this is a fucking dope ass car.
Speaker 1 (56:01):
Man bags dude, and Tony is right like he has
a lot of OG fans. Original genius is not one
I've heard for for OG, original gangster say, but he's
kind of both. He's a gangster, always has been an MMA,
and he does have a loyal fan base. And I
do think that that fan base will come over and
watch Tony because they've watched him in the UFC. They
(56:23):
watched him, you know, ascend to the highest of highs
and then obviously they watched the losing streak there at
the end, so they've always stood by his side. I
think that the Misfits did a great job getting him
on this card if he wanted to fight, which it
seems like he does. I personally don't think Tony should
be fighting anymore. But if he's gonna fight, he's gonna
do it somewhere, and he's probably gonna make the most
money doing it here at Misfits, So fair play, and
(56:44):
I do I think he commands a great audience.
Speaker 5 (56:46):
No agree more so, I've just got a couple more
questions before we wrap things off. I'm gonna start off
with you, Toney. We're only matter a few weeks away. Now,
what's your prediction for this fight? When that bell rings?
How does fight go for you?
Speaker 7 (57:00):
You're gonna have to tune in. I don't like to
talk too much about like other ship like that. You
guys gonna have to tune in when it goes into it.
You guys are gonna be in for a good fight.
It's gonna be amazing. Camp Camp has been cool already.
Speaker 8 (57:14):
It's awesome. Look at my new hairline too, Thank you, Bosley.
Speaker 1 (57:19):
Honestly, how do you not love him? Look at my
new hairline? Thanks? Did you say thanks? Bosley? That's awesome,
so awesome. Put a little hair dye in there too.
You could tell he went a little just for bed
a touch of gray, right silver fox, Tody? I like it?
Speaker 4 (57:32):
Good question. How does this fight gout for you? I
just do whatever it takes to win and hope and
get lucky.
Speaker 5 (57:40):
Don't bite me, just kidding.
Speaker 7 (57:46):
I'm gonna hit him. He's gonna try to hit me,
and that's how it's gonna go from mine.
Speaker 4 (57:50):
Well, this is gonna be one of the final times.
Speaker 1 (57:52):
I hate this Salt Poppy keeps saying like, oh, I'm
just gonna try to get lucky. Bro just be about it, dude.
We all know your confidence. Yourself up, call your shot.
If he was just being humble, like, that's not even
being him being humble, right, that's just him being like, oh,
you know, I'm just the influencer. It's like playing a character.
I get it, but I want him to like, you know,
stand on that ship. We've seen it. You can't hide
(58:14):
it from us anymore, you know.
Speaker 5 (58:15):
Face off before we get into fight weeks. So can
I get some final words from you both?
Speaker 4 (58:18):
So first made the best memory, sir about it? Do
you have any final words for Salt Pappy?
Speaker 8 (58:26):
I see the thirtieth thirtieth handshake.
Speaker 4 (58:31):
It's been an absolute pressure. Thank you to handshake like,
I don't know why as much.
Speaker 8 (58:36):
Put your hand up.
Speaker 3 (58:44):
Again against answer.
Speaker 1 (58:46):
Bigger than Brocks. Tony is so awesome, duties off. Put
your hand up here, see got big hands.
Speaker 5 (58:53):
I appreciate both your time. Thank you so much being
an absolute honor doing this. Face off and make sure
you're getting your tickets and going and watching it live
on his own August thirtieth, Manchester A arena.
Speaker 1 (59:04):
That was awesome. Tony is a pleasure to listen to,
even if it is a bit confusing, if he is
all over the place, He's still Tony Ferguson, and the
reason you love him as a fighter is because of that.
His personality is erratic, sometimes doesn't make any sense, but
you know he's passionate about what he's doing. Right, He's
not doing something he doesn't care about. He's always been
that way with the UFC, He's doing that now with
(59:27):
the crossover boxing space. I want to see him stay safe.
I know that's not maybe even possible because he's fighting
and it is combat sports. But obviously, in my opinion,
I'm still sticking with Salt Poppy winning this fight. I
say obviously, and it's only it's not a disrespect to Tony,
it's just because of the situation and where we're at right.
Tony's career, his age, mileage, the wear and tear, the
(59:50):
lack of experience specifically just boxing. I mean, he alluded
to it. So Bobby, he's got eight fights, He's got none.
Jake made a career off this when he first started boxing.
Is bringing guy in that had never boxed, that were
high level MMA fighters and exploiting the difference between high
level MMA and you know, entree level box There are
completely different sports. You guys just watched me get rag
(01:00:11):
dogged by Dylan Danis after having a decent enough showing
in my first ever little boxing match. It's it's not
even close. And this is why you don't see boxers
go to MMA because they're not the same sport and
they would get ragdolled and destroyed. So I expect this
same formula. I mean, if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
Time and time again, we've seen it. I expect Saulpoppy
to win this, but I could be wrong. And fight
(01:00:31):
week is almost here now or a couple of weeks away.
I'm gonna be traveling all over the country. So it's
the last time you guys will see me in the
setup room for a while. But the next time you
see me on a broadcast will be in Florida. I'm
gonna be doing some stuff with MVP their Prospects card
coming up on the twenty second. Then I will be
in Manchester at the Al Arena for Misfits twenty two,
(01:00:53):
Fun Fights, Fun Week, Fun month ahead. As far as
what happens with Tony Ferguson saw Poppy. I think I know,
but on August thirtieth, guess we'll find out
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