THE W.A.D.E. Concept - WEEK IN REVIEW - TOM ASPINALL FIGHT WEEK MADNESS, GERVONTA DAVIS PREPERATIONS FOR JAKE PAUL AND FABIO WARDLEY PULLS OFF THE UPSET?!? - The Herd with Colin Cowherd

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, folks, we are back on the way concept
presented by the Ring, and today we are taking a
look at something I'm finding more and more interesting about
the Jake Paul Tank Davis fight. It's the way Tank
Davis is preparing and potentially the way Tank Davis could
I can't believe that I'm even thinking this, and potentially
the way that Tank Davis could knock Jake Paul out.

(00:20):
This is changing my mind on a lot of the
things around this fight and how it potentially will go.
I'm seeing Tank Davis in the gym, and I'm seeing
bits and pieces of what they want to do, and
I'm not necessarily convinced that this is going to go
completely differently than I already thought, but I am starting
to flip on what I think can happen here. Tank
Davis is taking Jake Paul more seriously than potentially I

(00:43):
thought he would, and usually that's the downfall of everyone
that fights Jake. But there's a reason why, and it's
not just because the money he's guaranteed. But it seems
like there's a little bit extra going on that I
need to explain. But before we start, before I break
this all down, guys, I am going to be alive
for this fight on November fourteenth, probably twelve plus hours.
We're gonna have an insane live stream. We're gonna do

(01:04):
a rewatch together of all the fights that we can
on YouTube from Jake from Tank. It's gonna be unbelievable,
and we're gonna have guests live on the show making
their picks for the fight. We're gonna have insane games,
maybe some giveaways in chat, all types of crazy things
leading up to this fight, and then we may even

(01:24):
stay live all the way through the next day, or
maybe we'll break up the streams, but we're back the
very next day for Connor Ben Chris you Banks Junior
number two, the rematch, and UFC three twenty two that
same day. Don't miss it. But with that being said,
it's time to expose what do I mean and what
is the thing that I see the breakdown. Let's go well.

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seen much out of what's going on with Jake's side

(03:57):
of things, and we'll keep breaking this down. I think
we're about three and a half weeks away from the fight.
The only thing that I've seen out of Jake Paul's
training as of right now is this clip right here,
Jake Paul doing some work with ray Ford. Ray Ford
in eighteen one and one super featherweight only lost to
nick Ball high level guy. And this is what the
only thing that I've really seen is just an interaction

(04:19):
from them potentially after sparring where you know, there's music playing,
so I can't really put it out there, but I'm
not exactly sure what they're going over. Jake looks to
his team, He's like, you know, maybe I gotta get
my head off center line more. That's what he's looking
at his team and saying, you know, hey, I need
to slip more punches. And then ray puts like the

(04:41):
high guard up, like hey, when you're here, yeah, yeah,
when you're here, don't even do that and go to
the body. I can't really read his lips here, and
then you know that's where your body's open. Something I'm
not sure exactly what they're talking about, but it seems
like Ray has given him some pointers on something he
did wrong or something that Jake was not super happy

(05:03):
with the way he performed in their spar But this
is literally the only thing I have seen out of
Jake Paul's camp in regards to this fight specifically, there's
been a lid on basically everything they're doing right now
in Jake's camp. I'm sure there'll be more videos and
more training come out as we get closer and closer
to the fight, but it seems like maybe in this session,

(05:24):
Ray probably put it on Jake a little bit. Not
that again, it matters because they're not fighting each other.
In sparring is sparring, it's how you get better. But
Jake's you know, obviously sparring smaller guys, seeing not only
what weapons they bring to a sparring session, because you
know they're not as big in stature, it's gonna be
a sixty pound weight difference. Probably actually a little bit
update on that today as well. Tank's looking a little

(05:44):
bigger than I've normally seen him. We'll talk about that
in a second, But obviously Jake is gonna work with
some of the better guys in the smaller weight classes
to get prepared for what Tank could potentially bring. Now,
Tank is a is a one of one in that respect,
so it's difficult sometimes to prepare yourself in that same way.
But on that same note, we have a couple new
things out from Tank Davis number one. It's not necessarily new,

(06:07):
but the last kind of work we've seen from Tank,
you know, just in general, is this video right here,
just chopping the bag, turn it over, shots, chopp into

(06:35):
the body, every shot to the mid section. Now, again
not to read too much into things, but we go
back to this video and I don't know what's being
said here between Ray and Jake, but he's telling him,
you know something with the high guard, don't even do that.
I'm trying to draw a parallel between potentially what Ray
Ford did to Jake in this bar and what could

(06:57):
potentially be going down in Tanks camp that can line
up the dots. Again, we don't have a lot to
go off of what we generally think may happen in
this fight, is that Jake Paul will probably use his size,
his frame, and his power to try to land big shots,
not throw a ton of punches and not gas himself
out against Tank, who again this is an exhibition. Yes,

(07:19):
they'll be judges and someone I guess will win is
what they're saying. But does that mean that someone actually
has a win loss on the record. No, because you
can't sanction something like this in a profight. Tank, on
the other hand, who already is a low output puncher,
is going to look to utilize his speed, his head
and movement, his quickness, his agility, his angles, his footwork,
his defense, his defense to offense transition, and vice versa

(07:40):
to catch Jake when he does eventually open up with
bigger punches and make him pay. Also, he's going to
look to slow Jake down and potentially work him into
those later rounds to where Tank can still be explosive.
And when I look at this little exchange from Jake
and ray Ford again, I could be completely missing the
read here. Ray is either telling him this is what
you need to do or this is what I was
able to do to you because of we go back here,

(08:02):
because of this high guard, I was able to get
to your body something like that. Maybe or it could
be again I could be just completely missing it. And
then you see this from Tank, all body work, just
hammers to the body level, changes, head off, center, angle, switch,

(08:27):
all that work in the bag. That was one of
the more recent videos. We saw. One thing that we
didn't really look at when watching this video the first
time is how much bigger Tank looks now again, he
is a small slider frame statuted individual. To begin with,
Tank is a very small guy. If you blinked, you
might think this young man right here is Tank David
non Plan. But Tank is you know, he's smaller. And

(08:49):
this is why this fight is an exhibition and why
it's a bit of a shot in the dark as
to you know, why you even do something like this.
But we all know it's a lot of money being
involved in x y Z. Both guys big time prize fighters,
the big time prize on this one. Again. We can
talk about the legitimacy of it. We can talk about
how it helps the sport, how it hurts the sport,
to the cows come home. The bottom line is these

(09:10):
two guys pull better numbers than anybody in the sport
right now in the US. And regardless of the circus
nature of it, people are gonna watch. I'm gonna watch
you guys are gonna watch and that's just the state
of boxing where we're at. I think it's entertaining as
long as we all know what it is, which is
a money fight. I don't I wish that Tank would
relinquish his belt. I wish the WBA would strip him

(09:31):
because I don't think this is very fair to people
that are supposed to be the actual contenders in his
weight class for his belt. And that is what's the
actual sanctity of the sport. Argument should be about, is
that if Tank is the sitting champion, either he gives
his belt up or he shouldn't be doing this in
fighting challengers. That's really it. But as long as we're
all on the same page, that Tank can no longer
say he's one of the pound for pounds whilst doing
these things and whilst holding a belt when others are

(09:52):
contending or someone to contend for it. And that's fine.
I still think Tank's one of the most talented boxers
in the world. But you can't hold that title if
you're not actually defending your title. Point anyway, But when
we look at Tank in this in this like look
at the shoulder definition not the Tank is like ever
really been, you know, crazy out of shape. But I

(10:14):
thought maybe coming into this Tank would be a little
bit skinnier, a little bit smaller, and that's just not
the case. I mean, look at I know this is
on impact the shoulder definition, but he's he looks thicker.
Pause he does though, he he looks like he's put
weight on. And I saw show Biz did a video
about this a couple of days ago, and he looked

(10:34):
at Tank's, you know, figure for the for the photo shoots,
which we'll take a look at now as well. So
here is Tank and Jake looking at each other's posters, right,
dick Man, he's you look at the actual poster now again.
They obviously made Tank a lot bigger than he is
here in the poster, but you're not seeing him one

(10:55):
as cut up as you would normally see him obviously
to fight at his weight class. Hundred and thirty five
is still at a little bit of a cut for Tank.
But you see even here he is a little bit
more broad, a little bit more filled out in the back, shoulders, arms.
The entire point I'm making here is that Tank is
loading up, making himself bigger, not too much, but making

(11:18):
himself more around his walkaround weight. Maybe one hundred and
fifty maybe one hundred and sixty pounds or this fight,
because he needs that power to knock Jake out. He
still has speed, still has ability, still has quickness, agility,
all of that, but this type of power he will
need to try to even knock a two hundred and
probably on the night, two hundred and fifteen pound man out.

(11:38):
But it won't just be the size difference. It won't
just be him sitting down in his punches. It won't
just be the shots to the body from Tank all
that stuff. I'm painting a picture for you guys as
to how Tank can potentially do this, because I think
Tank is the more skilled guy, but I just think
Jake is so much bigger and he is more skilled
than people give him credit for, and he does possess
a bit of boxing IQ for his level and keep

(12:00):
him safe in this kind of scenario because Hank is
one hundred and thirty five pounder, it's not like he's
a big guy. And Jake is a big guy, and
he can still, like I said, keep things somewhat safe
for himself if need be, and if he does want
to go for it, And there is moments where Jake
wants to use his weight and use his size, which
is probably what they want to do the entirety of

(12:21):
the fight. There are ways that Javonte canencounter it. Now
bear with me as I do a little bit of
a walk down memory lane. Do we all remember the
Floyd Mayweather Logan Paul exhibition from way back? Now it's
been years and years, do we remember one of the
moments that went super viral and people said Floyd knocked
Logan out then helped him up. That didn't happen. Logan
never was knocked out by Floyd Mayweather punch and then

(12:43):
held up. But this was one of the keys to
the exhibition, to the fight was Logan using his size
and frame to smother Floyd even when he got hit
with punches, so that Floyd either couldn't follow up, or
that Logan could just put his weight on him, make
Floyd hold his weight, tire him out, and Logan could
take a rest. Remember this clip from way back, right

(13:03):
hand Logan falls in. This happened a lot during their fight,
and no, Logan is not knocked out here, but this
is something that happens so much in their fight, where
Logan using his frame, using his size was able to
wear on Floyd, was able to frustrate him. Floyd couldn't
get to him with the jab. Logan's jab was better
than Floyd anticipated. Now, one thing I want to show

(13:25):
you about this clip. Maybe you missed it. Floyd landed
a punch here, and yes it may have hurt Logan,
but he wasn't as accurate as he wanted to be.
And this is where I think Jervonte in some ways
is even more accurate than Floyd. I know it sounds crazy,
but you think about Jervonte's punch output versus his punch
landing and what that punch does to people. No one
at this point expected Floyd to knock Logan out. He

(13:46):
was too old, too small, hands, too brittle, right, And
I don't mean that disrespectfully. I'm just meaning Logan's two
hundred pounds. Let's watch this clip again. You know, Logan
again leans on Floyd. Floyd holds him there, but you
see Logan try to go to the lee hand up
or cut off the level change, big swing and miss
with the right hand. Look at Floyd load on his
back foot and just I mean just barely miss what

(14:09):
was a step in counter upper cut lean bang, which
is the right punch to go to, because Lloyd has
the best boxing IQ maybe of anyone ever. He just
barely misses it. And even with a barely miss, he
still hits him with the punch. It's just not as
clean as he wants. Again, we're drawing all these lines
of combarrasson and what potentially could happen. What if I
told you that exact sequence is what Javonte Davis is

(14:31):
working right now in camp. Here is a recent clip
from Jervonte Davis's Instagram, and I think this is exactly
the type of thing you do to a guy that's
a little bit more green than you are, is nowhere
near the level of boxing that Davonte has, that's the
same experience or ability in my opinion. How do you
take advantage of his weight usually what would be his strength?

(14:52):
How do you take advantage of it? Well, you make
yourself bigger, like Davonte seems to be doing. Doesn't have
to cut weight, so he'll probably walk in there a
little bit bigger than his walking around weight. It's the
risk because you're still going a good amount of rounds.
How do you hold that weight? Still risk because you're
still going I don't know if it's eight or ten rounds,
but you gotta hold that weight, especially against a guy
that's two hundred pounds. But it also allows you to

(15:13):
sit down on heavy punches. When this same scenario, think
Logan Floyd happens in their fight. Look at this training.
You see this, You see Jake there already. I love this.
They're anticipating Jake in the clinch, looking to again put
his body weight on tank. Bigger man, use his size,
lean on you, weigh on you. And you see the

(15:33):
post in the frame from tank post frame hold hold, bang, lead,
hand up or cut and again. Something that's key here
is if they want to be in this position. They
have Jake laying on tank. They don't have Jake's hands
overhooking Tank's hands. Look at it's a very very subtle
little nuance in this back and forth, the difference between

(15:56):
this tank's hands over the top and this Logan's hands
over the top. Logan has his in an overhook. Floyd
has the under hook. He can't punch with the under hook.
He has to kind of stay there until he can
get his hand free and then go. But Hank Davis,
he has learned from Floyd, and he has learned in

(16:18):
multiple different situations where he's been the smaller man. He's
gonna overhook your hands. You go ahead and try to
clinch me. I'm getting that overhook because I'm gonna hold
your hands down. I'm gonna pin your arms to where
you can't punch. And then when I'm ready, I'm gonna release.
Boom with the upper cut up the middle release bang,
boom underneath left hand. Love that. Here's the over look

(16:42):
at that overhook again right there until I'm ready. Off
the lead foot, boom, pop the head up and again
here comes Jake. Okay, we're in a tussle. We're in
a tussle. Lean on my lead foot, upper cut, left hand,
roll and hook left hand down the midd That is
good stuff. Again. One of the things that we have

(17:03):
seen Jake struggle with, even in the Mike Tyson fight.
If we go back, one of the things Jake has
struggled with so much is his feet. His feet gets
so wide and he gets a little flat footed at times,
and especially when he throws a big power punch, his
feet get a little stab. We see here even the
jab and the retreat off the jab. He stabs him
with the jab. But look at how wide his feet are.

(17:25):
If Jake tries to even potentially throw a right hand here,
there's no leverage on it, so he has to get
out of range and come back. Now this time when
he throws a step throw, but look look where he
throws that from. Look at the off balance nature of this. Like,
that's still a good right hand, and honestly, if he
lands it, I would probably knock Tank out. It's just
because he's that big a dude. But he's so out

(17:47):
of position here that if there is a follow up
to any of these punches, Jake's either gonna have to
go straight back or he's gonna be hit with something.
Now imagine same scenario. We get this exchange right here,
same spot, Bang bang, Jake's overthrown the right hand slip
bang bang. I'm not saying it's likely. I'm just saying

(18:07):
it's possible. There are things that if you look at
Jake's game, And I'm not saying that these two sequences
are everything in Jake's game. In this Mike Tyson fight,
It's not what I'm saying, but this is a pattern
that you recognize with Jake, is that when you do
see him load up on shots, he becomes very off balance, plant, throw,

(18:30):
hit or miss. We're foot off the ground, all our
weight on our lead foot, and now we're having to
push back off that lead foot and almost jump back
out of range just to save ourselves from being in bad,
bad spots. That's the thing I'm saying. And this is
why when you talk about the green, kind of newer
to boxing nature of Jake, when things need to be regulated,

(18:51):
when he needs to go to something to get himself
out of trouble, he will revert back to the things
that have got him to the dance, which is the
jab overhand, jab to the body overhand, or step back overhand,
and he will throw everything he has behind it. Trust me,
I've seen it too many times. It will happen if
we get to a point where Jake's jab has been broken,

(19:12):
the range has been taken, and he's being pushed backward.
I don't know if I see that happening a lot,
especially early, but it could if we see Tank had
a bigger size, utilizing the body shots and frustrating Jake
by not being where he expects him to be and
making him overthrow and miss. Still It's hard for me
to believe a guy tank size is going to be

(19:32):
able to knock out Jake. But if there's a way,
they're working on the right ones. They have learned from
what happened in the Logan in Floyd fight, and we'll
do breakdowns on all this stuff as we lead up.
And I thought this was special. I thought it was
interesting to see Tank. I mean, he's kind of exposing
how he wants to knock out Jake, and he's also
kind of exposing the blueprint to do it. If you're
gonna hurt Jake, you have to catch him off guard.

(19:54):
You have to lull him to sleep with your timing
and your power, and you have to clip him when
he's over extend or when he tries to use his power,
size and frame to lay way and pray on the
little guy, and Tank also in this fight, has to
be a bit bigger than the little guy. I think
I'm seeing all those things happen right now, But maybe
I'm making too much of a big deal over nothing.

(20:15):
Maybe these little clips that I'm seeing and the things
they're working on they don't mean as much. And I
think a guy like Tank, who seems to be able
to bring his skill from the gym into the ring,
is going to be able to capitalize on stuff like this.
Where Jake does make a lot of mistakes, there are
moments where he can be capitalized on. Tank, by the way,
made some mistakes in the Lamott roach fight. I was
wondering about his headspace. But I'm starting to believe he's

(20:35):
taking this more serious than I thought, And for Jake Paul,
that's very dangerous. So what do you guys think. I'm
starting to look and lean like Tank might be able
to have some opportunities to actually hurt Jake, knock him out.
I don't know about I'm still to rack my brain
and think one hundred and thirty five pound one hundred
and fifty hundred and sixty pounder can knock out a
guy with experience, with some skill and as some ability

(20:56):
in the boxing ring. That's two hundred and ten fifteen pounds.
So don't know. I'm still not ready to make that leap,
but I'm saying it's possible. If there's a guy to
do it at that lower weight class, it's probably Tank Davis.
Let me know what you guys think. Down below, we're
about three and a half weeks away. What happens in
this fight on November fourteenth, can take actually knock Jake out.
I don't have those answers, but I guess we'll find out.
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Yes he should have been fighting John Jones. John Jones ducked.

(21:38):
There's no debating that. It was clear John wanted no
part of it, and now that the White House card
is in play, maybe John does. I don't know, but
I'm still not necessarily convinced that Tom Aspinall will be
the greatest heavyweight we've ever seen, or that he's as
good as people are telling me he is, because I
want to see more of what he brings in a

(21:59):
fight that doesn't just go round. And I'm not saying
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turn on the internet right now, everyone is I don't
want to say it is glazing to a degree, but
everyone is on the Tom Aspinall hype train, and I
understand why because Tom Aspenall, since he's gotten to the

(24:05):
UFC has pretty much made light work of every fighter
he's ever stood in front of. Outside of the weird
kind of knee injury Tko lost to Curtis Blades, which
he then came back and beat Curtis Blades very dominantly
in their second fight. So it's hard. It's hard to
look at Tom Aspinall's strength of schedule here for using

(24:25):
college football terms, and believe there's anybody on there that
would have been threatening to Tom. So yeah, I mean
it is a bit of a difficult thing to look
at anybody on Tom's record, as as we take a
look here and act like any of it was really
a challenge to Tom Aspinall. Maybe you know, Saragai would
have been. Papovich was a big puncher and potentially could

(24:46):
have given Tom some problems, but stood right in the
pocket with him and got dropped. I mean, yeah, I mean,
I just don't see any I mean, the heavyweight division
is rough right now. It is awful, and outside of
two or three big names that you could mention right now,
in that division eight A paplovicha Curtis Blades, Alexander Volkov,
a Cerrill Gan, a Tom Aspinal. There really isn't anyone

(25:08):
that's there that either gets people excited or presents an
opportunity for Tom Aspenall to potentially have a tough matchup. Now,
with all that being said, this strength of schedule doesn't
really tell me a lot about Tom Aspinall and what
his capabilities are when he goes to that next level.
Do I think Serril Gon is that next level? No?
I don't. I think this Real Gon is this level
the level of guys that he's already beaten, which is

(25:30):
why I am picking Tom Aspenal to win this fight.
I know wade curse is in effect, it is what
it is, but I do see some dangerous elements to
this fight, and I'm very interested to see what happens
when Tom fights probably the best striker he's ever seen,
in Serrel Gone. But the problem is this isn't kickboxing,
it's not boxing, it's MMA. So Tom has more well
rounded skills than Cereal Gone, and again I think you'll

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see that in about ten days. But let's break the
fight down and kind of go step by step as
to why this will probably be the toughest fight that
Tom has had, or maybe it won't be. Maybe Tom
will do what he does and all these different fights
and walk out in the first round and knock him
motherfucker dead. His entire fight history is incredible. It's first round,
second round, and nothing else. I mean, predominantly of the

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how many fights he had eighteen fights? One, two, three?
Is it just three? So fifteen of his eighteen fights
have finished in the first round, and of the fifteen
that have finished, he's finished fourteen of them. And again
the Curtis blades weird fluky knee injury thing that you
can't really hold that against him. But this is a
strength and potentially a weakness of Tom Aspinal. I know

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you guys have heard it from every MMA channel on
the internet over the last couple of months that Tom
Aspinal still has yet to prove what he can do
over five rounds. And it's not his fault. If you
go out and murk a motherfucker in three minutes, that's
what happens. But it is going to be interesting to
see because Serrill Gon has son no pun intended five rounds.
A couple of different times now, and when you look

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at Serril Goan's record, yes, it's a bit of an
up and down when it comes to how he gets
fights done. But the only two actual losses, even though
you can argue that Alexander Volkov beat him, the only
two losses that he has are to John Jones and
Francis and Ganhu, two former champions. Right, so he's this
is his technically his third actual title opportunity, even though

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he won the interim title off Derek Lewis. But look
at the different varieties in which Surrel Gon can fight
and win. Right. He wins iko early in his career,
obviously not so much as he's gotten into his later part.
Not known as a massive power striker, but a guy
that can overwhelm you. But five rounds, five rounds, five rounds.

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He's gone the distance three times and gone past the
second round one, two, three, four, five, eight times. So
he understands what it means to go laid into fights
and find victory. But these numbers, these names, this win
loss doesn't tell the whole story of this fight. We
have Serrill Gon who is predominantly a I wouldn't say kickboxer,
but a striker on the feet, a guy that can

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use his elbow's knees, feet, hands of the eight limbs.
Cerrill Gon is very good. He stands bladed and in
both stances he can hit you again with his kicks
upstairs as well, and in this fight he will present
a reach advantage on Tom Aspinall, who is I think
the same height as Serial Gone. I think they're both
around six to four, but Tom Aspinall's reaches seventy eight

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inches Cerreal eighty one. So if you are looking at
ways that cyril Gon can present problems for Tom aspell
number one, I think everything has to do with his
takedown defense or his grappling defense versus Tom Aspinall's grappling offense. Now,
Tom not really known as a big time offensive wrestler,
but will do it in spurts. The beautiful takedowns he

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had of Alexander Volkov and the submissions there. I do
think that he is better known for his black belt
and Brazilian jiu jitsu. Been grappling for forever, but it's
the offensive grappling that I want to see how legit
it is versus someone that has now seen that Tom
is dangerous with his grappling, right, I want to see
what cyril Gon, who has been in there with John
Jones and got a completely obliterate who was out grappled

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by Francis. And again you see a common theme here.
The guys that out grapple cyril Gon usually beat him.
That doesn't sound good for cerril Gon when he's fighting
a guy like Tom Aspinall, who is way more well rounded.
And I think especially in this fight, serril Gon might
be the better and probably is the better striker out
of the two of them. He probably is the better
striker with all eight contact points. Then Tom Aspinall. Does
that mean that he was going to win this fight

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by knockout? No, And in fact I would if somebody
was gonna get knocked out, I'd favor Tom Aspinall and
knock cerrial Gone out because one Tom goes for it
will stand there in the pocket with you, sometimes even
trade with his chin up, which is dangerous. We'll get
back to that. But he commits to his punches and
he has real knockout power one punch knockout power, whereas
cyril Gon does tend to have to overwhelm you. And
I know it's heavyweight and anybody can get knocked out.

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I'm just showing you the differences. So if Cyril is
going to do this, and if Tom is going to
be in legitimate danger, it will be because Cerel has
either established a distance that Tom can't shoot from with
his kicks eating up the legs, the push kicks, the
teeps of techniques that Cereal throws that do keep the
distance and keep him in the outside range to where

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he can circle the cage. And if you notice in
a lot of his fights, including the Francis and gan
Who fight, where yes, Francis had some knee issues and
wasn't necessarily as mobile as he needed to be. That's
all Cyril did was poke at him from the outside
and was winning that fight until Francis and gan Who
decided to grapple. And it wasn't necessarily a super damaging
level of grappling. It was just control. He was able
to control Cyril god, and it wasn't really hard for

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him to do it. And that's another big problem if
you're Cyril, if you get pushed up against the fence,
and Cyril loves to fight off his back foot, he
loves to kind of invite the pressure and then circle
around it and tag you from the outside and then
blitz you with the combinations and switch the stands, and
there's just a lot of things he likes to do
off your forward movement and again put him in really
bad spots, especially with a guy like Tom who was
looking to get into boxing range, and if he isn't

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in boxing range or if he's not having success where
he's at, he will potentially initiate that grappling then come
upstairs with the striking, and it's a whole mess. So
Cyril has to keep his distance, I think, at least early,
and see if he can start to win this fight
on a point scale system by using his reach, by
using his kicks, by being more calculated and technical with

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his striking versus being super aggressive, because we've seen how
that works out for anybody that wants to be super
aggressive with tom Aspinall, they get dealt a swift hand
of Nike will and the fight's over in you know,
thirty seconds. So that can't happen, and that's not who
surreal God is. So I think that is at least
how you want to start the fight. On the other side,
Tom Aspinall, I'll be interested to see how he approaches

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this fight, because he has made a statement running through
this heavyweight division. And I'll be honest, heavyweight in the
UFC is probably the worst technical division in the sport.
It has no names than anyone recognizes. It doesn't have
a ton of fighters with a massive skill set and
an ability to hang with a fighter as well rounded
as Tom Aspinall and a is why you've seen virtually

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nobody ascend through the ranks of this new era of heavyweight.
What's the name Jenton Almeida. We'll see what he does.
But there's not a ton of big name heavyweights and
there's not a ton of guys that look like they
can challenge Tom Aspinall right. Now, if Tom goes in
there and just demolishes this a real god, he will
rain over this heavyweight division for a very long time
unless John Jones comes back. And I know people aren't

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giving John a chance there, but I think John still
possesses the fight iq skill, maybe not the speed and
youthfulness that he had, but it could be an interesting
fight regardless if Tom takes this fight and doesn't get
over zealous with the let me walk in there and
knock this guy out in one round and dip, but
fights his fight, stays aggressive and is patient. This could
be an all time performance for Tom Aspenall. I don't

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doubt that. But there is something about fighting a striker
as dangerous and as varied and has more variety like
a Cereal God does that. Maybe you do underestimate a
bit of his grappling defense and all I can just
take him down. Whatever, So let's start with the hands
and get caught with something early. I don't know if
you're Tom Aspenall. I think either being in close proximity
to Currell Gon being inside that that kick range, punch

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and clinch range is is perfect for Tom, or being
completely out. Either one of those things is good for
Tom aspinall, because if you're in the mid range where
he can kick you and you can't kick him, or
he can touch you and you can't touch him, and
it becomes a point fight. And in a point fight
with a point fighter like Sir Real God, you're going
to lose that at least you're going to lose rounds
because of that. And I want to see what happens

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if Tom is having to use more of his grappling
and isn't as successful with it right off the bat.
Right what we've seen right now is Tom Asmenal be
massively successful with his grappling and striking and pretty much
everything he wants to do right now at heavyweight. This
is like a you know, watching Mike Tyson just run
through the heavyweight division in his early twenties and knocking

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motherfucker's dead and just wondering, okay, does this guy have
any weakness? And you weren't able to see it because
the fights were lasting forty seconds, twenty seconds, fifteen, you know,
and you didn't get to know if what's his gas
tank look like? What happens when he does fight someone
that is able to move their head or can get
inside and work him too the body and then to
touch him up upstairs and they've got a nasty hook

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as well, and Tyson isn't able to get off center
line or his rhythms interrupted. All those things came to
fruition later in Tyson's career when people weren't scared of
him or whatever. There's a sense of, okay, what does
Tom do if he doesn't knock a guy out in
the first round or he doesn't take him down, and
some minim right away. And I know that's like the
worst way to analyze a fight. What happens if he
isn't a good fighter, that's not realistic. But you do

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have to ask those questions because can you keep that
same intensity later into the fight, And it is a
lot about Tom's gas tank. If things don't work out
early or if things become predictable, then what do you have?
Do you have another layer past that? And again I
think Tom is more well rounded than Curreal, But even
if you are more well rounded, you still have to
be able to get to the positions where you're better.

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If Cyril is just working takedown defense like I'm fucking
mad man, and is able to hold Tom just at
bay for a couple of rounds, then Cardio does become
a factor for a what I look at when I
see Tom aspinall I know Cyrill is cut up and
he is fast twitch I think as well, and he
slows down his fights goes on a a little bit
as well. But when I look at Tom Aspital, everything

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he does, it looks like is fast twitch, very explosive,
a lot of movement. He's very quick, He's very fast.
Everything you'll hear leading into Fight Week next week about
Tom aspinall is agility, explosivity, power, That's what you're gonna hear,
and that's true. But when it comes down to what
happens if that goes, that's where people get into the

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wild wild West. I don't know what happened if Tom
suddenly is in round three, maybe banked a couple of rounds,
but is starting to feel the effects of fatigue. And
that's really the only way I see Tom losing this
fight is if he does gas himself out, or if
he takes stupid risks and decides he wants to kickbox
with Cyril God, which I don't see happening. I think

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Tom is a smart enough, well rounded him a fighter
to not put himself at a disadvantage round after round
or tois wad early for lack of a better term,
but that is where the danger lies. And let me
be clear, Surreal God can win this fight. I know
he's like a plus two seventy underdog, but he has
the ability striking on the feet, and even in the
Francis and Ghan who fight, at least at the early

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part of the fight, dro Ghan did a decent enough
job of keeping himself when he put his back on
the cage, he was able to get out. He was
able to fight through, grab underhooks, pivot out and reset.
And then later in the fight Francis eventually found his
grappling ability and ended up dumping zirell Gan on his head.
But it also took Francis an unsuccessful five round fight

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versus a younger stepe Miochic and then beating steep A
to understand that experience level. If you guys, remember when
Francis had to go five rounds for the first time
after he had knocked everybody out in the division. And
again I'm not saying Francis is Tom aspinall completely different fighters,
but after he was knocking motherfucker's dead, sent alistair Ovarem's
head to the moon, and he had to go five
rounds with steep A, you saw the gas tank deplete

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like this, And that was without grappling, that was just
with striking, that was just with explosive, hive level massive movements.
Now Tom is a bit more efficient with his striking,
and again I am assuming he is more prepared to
be more well rounded than Francis ever could have at
that point or ever thought of Tom's been doing this
a little bit longer. But when I talk about the
danger of this fight for Tom Aspinall, it's a couple

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of things. Number One, Tom is pretty much the last
hope right now of heavyweight to create a new star
or a while. I mean, maybe I'm wrong, maybe there's
other heavyweights coming through and they're going to be the
next big thing, But as of right now, Tom Aspinall
is the biggest thing UFC has seen at heavyweight since
Francis san Ganu and since John Jones. Right John, since
he's retired and has not really been looked at the

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same way by the MMA community, he doesn't seem to
have the same cachet right now as a Tom Aspinall,
at least for the hardcore fan base. I still think
is a casual viewer. Tom Aspinall is nowhere near John
Jones's name, legacy, any of that. But losing this would
be I mean, it wouldn't be catastrophic for Tom Aspinall,
but it would set back a lot of the good
work he's done at heavyweight to gain this massive fan base.

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So I think there is a lot of pressure there.
And let's not forget again, zer Real Gan has essentially
four or this will be his fourth with one interim
title fight, right, this will be a fourth title fight,
which gives you a lot more experience for Tom. However,
you want to look at some of these, you know fights,
He's had two essentially title fights, and he's done well
in both of those, But this one feels like a
lot more pressure. This one feels like there are things

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that Tom Asmaal is gonna have to deal with this
time around that he hasn't in opportunities past, not just
outstriking Curtis Blades, who on the feet doesn't really have it.
Even then, Curtis Blades caught him with something right before
he was caught, Sergei catching Tom Aspenall with something right
before he was caught, but both guys not having the
the technical ability of a surreal God to stand and

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actually see what's what on the feet. Now again, I'm
not saying that's what happens, but this is a dangerous
fight for many reasons outside of the cage and inside it.
For Tom Aspinall's aura of invincibility, which right now the
entire MMA community thinks he's going to walk through surreal
God in one round, and if he does that? Did
fucking yeah? Start the parade, hit the fireworks. This guy

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is on a trajectory upward that we haven't seen in
a long time at heavywe which you also have to
have someone to put him in there with, and we'll
get to that when we get to it. Hopefully that's
John Jones. Maybe it's Alex Pereira. I don't know, but
I'm telling you guys, this is a dangerous fight. I
would say it's a dangerous fight based on what happens
in the first round. If Tom is not as successful
as he normally used to in that first into mid
second round, then this thing becomes a very dangerous fight.

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Hit the panic button moment. If we get into round
three and it's a one to one fight, er, it's
not going Tom's way. But conversely, we haven't seen Tom
aspen all quit, at least not in the UFC. We
haven't seen him in really any trouble and we've seen
on the other side, so real gon when things get
a little tough, the grit the grind, I wonder if
it's there, I'd hope. So this is his third title opportunity,

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But there is something to be said for a guy
that's never tasted defeat really in the UFC. I know
he's had some losses outside of the UFC, got ankle
hooked or he'll hooked by somebody before he got there,
And I don't know what happened in his other I
guess he had illegal elbows to a guy that he
got dq'ed four. So Tom hasn't had real defeat in
this level of competition, and with this amount of exposure.

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I think that that's going to serve him well. The
confidence level walking in there, never having been defeated, with
that belt around his waist then on his shoulder versus
Surreal God, who already knows what it's like to lose
and lose in terrible fashion. That can be a motivator,
or that could be something you become comfortable with. Anyway,
I do think there's danger in this fight for Tom Aspinall,
not because he's overlooking, not because he should be, but
because Cereal God is a bit of a wild card,

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especially on the feet. And if Tom Aspenall is not
successful early, what does Plan B look like? What happens
when we need I know, he said he's preparing for
five rounds, and that's great. I think Tom should prepare
for five rounds. I don't think then any fighter should
be preparing to walk in there and knock a guy
out and dip. And if that doesn't happen, what do
we do? But it is a real thing when you
get in there, no matter how much you prepared for five,

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how much did you anticipate not being successful in one
or two. If that's the case, then you can't find
your range striking. And because you can't find your range striking,
you can't find your takedowns, or you can't find your grappling.
Then what happened? These are all things that we need
to consider. We're talking about this fight now. With all
that being said, I've thrown at you a couple of
different scenarios. One being Tom Aspenal walks in there, knocks

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out Cyril Gon in the first one or two rounds.
Two being Cyril Gon handles himself very well on the feet,
frustrates Tom aspinall Tom over extends, gets hit with something
Cyrill potentially follows up t Ko. Cerrill Gon or Cyril
controls the fight from the outside using his kicks his teeps.
Tom can't get rhythm, starts to gas and Cyril wins

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a decision because Tom just can't put it together late,
or we see something we've never seen before, which is
Tom Aspinal thriving into the later rounds. If that happens,
I would be more I mean, I'll be impressed with
whatever happened, But if Tom were to find a way
to be fresh in the later rounds and dominating this
five fifty forty four fifty forty five type stuff, I
would I would probably be not more impressed because a

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knockout is still a knockout, but I'd be very impressed
with that performance as well. And having said it all,
I think this, Like I said, I keep going back
to it. I think Cyril Gon being slept on the
way he is is absolutely insane. I think he's got
a very good chance of at least pushing Tom to
a place he's never been. But I still, at least
right now, I still have to think that Tom Aspinall
is gonna get this fight done. I just don't see

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the places that Cerril gan is better being good enough
for him to stop what's in front of him. Right
Just being a good striker, in my opinion, is not
enough to stop Tom Aspinall from beating him because again,
he is so varied in his offense, he doesn't necessarily
get hit a ton. He's lost in the UFC, but
not really he got hurt versus Curtis Blades. Both men
have their chin exposed leaning back when they strike sometimes,

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so that's a toss up. But if this fight is
to ever change from feet to ground, it will be
because Tom got a hold of Cerril gon And let's
not forget it wasn't just John Jones that outgrappled Seril Goan.
It wasn't even just Frances and Ghanu that did. But
Alexander Volkoff slung him around as well, and again we
could argue that Bolkov should have won that fight. And
I just think when it comes to the well rounded
nature of MMA, Tom is better he is and if

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he's able to prove that in this fight, and again,
the sky is the limit for Tom when it comes
to a potential matchup at the White House with I
would hope John Jones or Alex Perera either one. But
if you're overlooking as a fan, not Tom. But if
you're overlooking Cerrial God, you're making a mistake. He will
at least be ready Cardio why striking wise, have no
idea how he's gonna deal with Tom's takedowns. I don't

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know how Tom is gonna deal with Currel's maybe improved
takedown defense. But like I said, every fight's a dangerous one,
but this one particularly more in my opinion, for Tom Aspinall,
because Cereal God is a better striker than everyone Tom
has ever fallen a heavyweight. One kick, one punch, one elbow,
one knee can change the entire fight. And I don't
know if I've seen Tom Aspinall under more pressure than
he will be on Saturday, October twenty fifth, And that's

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a big, big deal. Yeah, there was pressure for Curtis Blaze,
Yes there was pressure for Sergey Papovich, but this one's different. Everyone,
thanks Tom Asminal is gonna win this fight. Everyone is
already looking toward the White House card. Everyone's already talking
about Tom Asminall, Alex Prera or Tom Aspinall, John Jones
at the White House. There's all these plans lined up,
and here's Cyril God, who's no one is really thinking about,

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no one's talking about, and no one gives a chance
to win. I would say this is the least pressure
he's been under, maybe even less pressure than the the
John Jones fight, because Jones was looked at as you know,
potentially a little older and slower coming up to heavyweight.
This is a freaking Cadillac of heavyweights. People are telling
me about tom Asminal so sarrel Gon under almost no pressure.
Can he get it done? Like I said, I think

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it's dangerous, but ultimately no, I think tom Asmenal is
going to do this, and when he does, you will
get all due credit from me and I hope the
rest of people for beating a really good fighter, in
my opinion, in surreal Gun. That's what I think. You
guys let me know in the comments below. Does tom
aspinall slip on the banana peel here? Does Syrill Gon
shock everyone? What happens on October twenty fifth, UFC three

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twenty one main event, tom aspen All serreal Gon don't
have those answers. More videos coming up on this obviously,
so I guess we'll find out. All right, So we
are back on the way concept presented by the Ring
magazine and folks, we just had one of the craziest
heavyweight fights I've seen in a while Joseph Parker versus
Fabio Wardley for the WBO Interim title. It was an

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absolute banger that is going to be mar in conspiracy.
As Fabio Wardley stops Joseph Parker in the eleventh round,
the improbable insane run for Wardley continues, but it wasn't
without question. What do I mean the breakdown? Let's go

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all right? So, like I said, WBO Interim Heavyweight Championship
winner to face Alexander Usiki have Joseph Parker, who has
probably rightfully earned the opportunity to fight Alexander Ussik, should
have gotten it before Duban got his rematch because Duba
Parker were supposed to fight Dubois didn't fight him. We
still don't know really the reason why it was alleged sickness.
Then Parker should have had his second opportunity after Usik

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beat Duba. But Usik gets injured so therefore he can't
defend in time. They given him extension and Parker takes
the Wardley fight. So a risky move from Joseph Parker
to take the Fabio Wardley fight, but he does, and
because he does, this opportunity may have just slipped away
from him on the other side. Fabio Wardley, Man, this
is incredible to say, but just started boxing ten years

(46:03):
ago at the age of twenty. He's now thirty. He
only had I think they said four white collar boxing fights,
that's right, the misfit style boxing fights before he turned
pro and then started an improbable run that has led
him to the top of the heavyweight mountain. At this point,
he is the number one contender for the heavyweight Championship
of the WBO, and this opportunity versus Joseph Parker comes

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after an improbable win versus Justice Hooney where he is
losing damn near every round of that fight and Hooney
is doing his thing and then right hand on the button,
Wardley hits him and stops him. You could say it
was a quick ten count, but I'm saying to you
it was insane to see and Wardley ends up in
this fight, and from the rip the idea that Joseph
Parker and even in my mind, was going to stop

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Fabio Wardley. It almost happened. In the first round. That
was the reality we almost saw as Joseph Parker tagged
Wardley with big time shots and I thought, oh shit,
this is going to be the moment where Joseph Parker
stops Wardley and rightfully finally gets his shot against Alexander Usik.
Turns out Fabio. Wardley's got a chin of steel, just
like Joseph Parker. Dude. Who By the way, Parker came

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into this fight at two hundred and sixty plus pounds.
That was the same weight that Tyson Fury weighed the
first time he fought Alexander Uzzi. Anyway, round one looked
like Parker may stop Wardley, hit him with some big
shots at him, wobbled a bit, had him on the ropes.
And then in round two, Wardley comes out and damn
near stops Joseph Parker. It's him with some big punches in. Again,
I don't want to undersell this. Joe Parker looked great

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in this fight. He looks stout, He looked like an
experience heavyweight. He looked like what he has done on
this Boogeyman style run, that he was going to overwhelm Wardley,
that he was in this first round especially going to
be the better and more experienced fighter. But he also
had big time power he was bringing in with this
two hundred and sixty pound frame. But on the other
side of it you had Fabio Wardley, who did not

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shy away at any point in this fight. Wardley looked fast,
he looked explosive, he looked technical, and he looked sound. Yes,
there were things that he was doing that you can
still say. Yes, Fabio Wardley is very green, moving straight back,
his hands were very low. Pretty much the majority of
the fight, he was getting hit with stuff. Thank god
his again, his chin is made of animanium. Both guys

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were for the most part that he was having a
hard time dealing with the power of Joseph Parker while
still having his own power. I mean he again, he
was just landing really quick, punctual, technical jab right hand,
upper cut, underneath it, hook right hand when he wanted
to let him go. He could see he belongs at
the top level of heavyweight, which was a question we
had coming into this thing, and Fabio Wardley definitively answered,

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even before he got the win, that he belonged at
the top level of this So from that second round
it's a bit of a back and fourth. Third. I
thought Wardley won. The fourth, I thought Parker. One could
argue either way on that. And then it started to
become a Joseph Parker fight where he was again taking
over in close rounds. He would finish strong, he would
land big power, he would have the bigger moments, and
he would back Bardly up wardly fighting off the back

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foot for most of the fight. Rounds five, six, seven,
and eight again close rounds. You could go more so
to Wardley and some and more so to Parker and others.
But I had this going into round ten. I had
this a six to three favored fight for Joseph Parker.
And then in round ten, after Parker had hit Wardley
with stuff and wobbled him and hurt him, and he thought, man, Okay,

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maybe Parker's gonna get him out this round. Maybe He's
gonna get him out this round. And Wardley just kept
hanging in and even when he was hurt, he was
able to counter off while being on the ropes and
throw big shots to stop a little bit of that
momentum from Joseph Parker, who I thought when he had
Wardley heard in certain moments and he wanted to finish,
and he wanted to go in for the kill. Really
couldn't do that because of the power and the fire

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coming back from Wardley. Those were the moments where I
thought if Parker could have taken advantage where he had
Wardley hurt in several of the rounds, and we may
have seen a different outcome in this fight. But instead
he wasn't able to Wardley was able to land one shot,
clinch him, referee would separate him, do something to where
Joseph Parker would have to stop his onslaught and reset.
And that was a big problem that I think eventually

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left the opening for to come back into this fight.
And it happened in round ten, just as Parker had
in the previous you know, two or three rounds. I
thought he was he was finding a good groove of things,
and he was really a locomotive moving forward these later rounds,
these championship rounds where Fabio Wardley was not his experience,
where he didn't have this level of pressure, and where

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with thaw and experience and grit and gas tank and
fatigue management, all these things you didn't know the answer
to that you did for Joseph Parker. Fabio Wardley stepped
up when I thought there were moments he got hit
with punches in this tenth round where it looked like
he just didn't have the answer. He was frustrated and
his hands would go down, his face would kind of
be like, damn, I just can't figure this thing out.

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He's just he's more powerful than me. I can hit
him with stuff, and he hits me and it hurts
me more. There was a moment in this tenth round
where it clicked over and Wardley kind of gave him
the you know, okay, come on, got some confidence back
in himself and fired off. I think it was a
right hand something that hurt Joseph Parker, and he starts
teeing off at him toward the end of the round,
and I thought he was gonna get a stop. It's

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there and he's got Parker on the ropes and Parker's
making him miss and trying to move his head. And
the round goes and all of a sudden, what looked
like a fight. Joseph Parker was starting to run away
with a little bit, starting to get ahead and starting
to push and push again. Close fight, you can judge
it either way. I just looked at it like this
was a again, going into round ten, six to three
fight for Joseph Parker probably was gonna be seven to

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three but Wardley turns it around and wins the round
at the end, making it six to four. Going into
the eleventh round. We have a live fight on her hands,
and Wardley, just as he finished the tenth round, came
out in the eleventh on fucking fire. This is what
you want to see out of a relatively still at
thirty years old young heavyweight. No he's not Mike Tyson

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in his twenties. No he's not a guy that trained
this sport from age ten. But he's still only thirty
and heavyweights do last a little longer. And he came
out for a guy that hadn't been there, for a
guy that didn't understand that level of depth before. It
felt like he'd been there. It felt like a championship
round for Wardley, who came out and put it on
Joseph Parker in this round to a degree where it

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was one way traffic. This wasn't him winning rounds back.
This was him going bulldozer flat line and Parker was trying.
He was trying to come back. But there was a
beautiful sequence when Parker went jab and Wardley slipped outside.
The jab banged the uppercut and it hurt Parker put
him on wobbly legs, backed him up. He had his
back on the ropes. Here comes Wardley and he's firing

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off and Parker had nothing for him. And here is
where the controversy came. Wardley was firing off, Parker was
not answering where all the shots landing. No, but Parker
clearly was hurt. He wasn't out on his feet, he
wasn't stumbling to the point where he didn't have his balance.
He was on wobbly legs, no doubt about it. But
he was still in the fight, moving his head. He
was trying to hold his guard up. He was getting
hit with shots, and he was not answering with shots.

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But the referee instead of what I think would have
been appropriate at the time, which is maybe separate them
and start a standing eight or Joseph Parker maybe again,
it's playing Monday morning quarterback. You can't tell him to
take a knee if he doesn't feel like he needs to.
I think there should have been an eight count here.
The referee steps in and stops the fight, and Joseph
Parker deserved a little better than that. It was early,

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It was such a good fight, It was such a
big moment for both fighters and for Parker, how much
was on the line for him after being turned away,
turned away, not getting his opportunity being the boogeyman at heavyweight.
He deserved longer, he deserved a better opportunity than the
referee gave him. And for Wardley, a guy that again
shouldn't even be at this level. He started boxing at

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twenty years old, been in this game ten years, started
with white collar, no amateur experience comes in and he's
doing this to the boogeyman of the heavyweight scene right now.
He's doing this to the guy that is supposed to
be fighting, Alexander Usik, and Wardley's a massive underdog and
here he is having his moment and the referee, yeah,
he waves it off and Wardley gets the win, and
what a moment. But he kind of robs him of
that moment because you let that thing go for ten

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more seconds, you let Parker get the standing eight or whatever,
and you still might have a ward knock out on
your hands. Who knows, But we won't ever know because
the referee did step in early. And that's the only
thing that leaves a sour taste in my mouth is
Joseph Parker deserved better than that. And this is not
to take away from Fabio Wardley, because what a moment
for the young man. What I mean, just an incredible

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showing from him, never quit, was down in this fight,
came back and stops Joseph Parker. I don't like the stoppage.
I don't like it. I've watched it over and over
and it's clearly early to him. You even see Joseph
Parker look at the referee're like, no, like he's not
out of it. Sure, he was hurt, but he deserves
the right to go through that moment and try to
will himself back because Wardley had been hurt many times

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in this fight, and Parker too early on. But that's
what a back and forth fight is. You let these
two warriors find out who is willing to go to
hell and back. And they were doing that, and it's
just one of the things that puts a sour taste
in your mouth and boxing is when a referee takes
that liberty and takes that moment from both fighters. And again,
if you're on the side of things, where Parker wasn't
answering shots, he was getting twenty unanswered shots put on him,

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I get it. I still think it was a little early.
I still think Parker had his wits about him, that
he deserved the eight count. If you were going to
look to stop that fight, you give him that opportunity
to regather himself and go for it. But that's just
my opinion. I thought it was early, and it does
take a bit away from the moment. But man, still,
what a fucking moment for Fabio Wardley. Again, I hin't
help but be excited for the kid. It was just

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an incredible night man because he shouldn't have looked as
good as he did, and Parker looked great. This is
not taking anything away from Joseph Parker. Was he a
tad bit too heavy coming in, Maybe didn't look his
agile in those later rounds as I thought potentially he would,
like he did against Wilder and others. But he still
looked fantastic, and he had fucking dynamite in his hands
when he connected. On Wardly, it was like he had

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never felt some of that stuff before. He probably hadn't,
but Wardly, the heart to stay in there, the will
to keep going when he's down some of these rounds
and he's frustrated, You could see it on his face.
He just keeps going and he digs and he shows
championship mentality. And again it just comes down to that
moment in the eleventh round where the referee steps in prematurely.

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I hate it. I hate it for Joseph Parker. It
is what it is. Fabio Wardley. Here's the thing as
a fan. It doesn't take away from Joseph Parker to me,
but as a selfish way of looking at it, because
it does take away. It does take away his potential
shot at Alexander Uzak. Let's say he survives there and
wins the twelfth This is gonna be a Joseph Parker
win probably, but he doesn't get that now, he doesn't
get that big paid and Fabio Wardley does fair play.

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That's how the cookie crumbles. And at the end of
the day, it's fight, it's combat sports. But man, it's
just an unfortunate moment. Very controversial. I think it was
a bad stoppage. I think it was an early stoppage.
But I do think Fabio Wardley. He may not be
the most technically sound, he may not be the most crisp,
but damn he's talented and I wish he would have
started boxing five years earlier, even because he has made

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such a close in the gap of what it takes
to be an experienced boxer. His athleticism is speed. The
guy that moves like that at two forty at his size, whoa.
I liked that. He was very impressive to me in
this fight Parker as well. And again it's an unfortunate ending.
But now we look to what's next, and I saw
people saying, you know, do a Wardley and Moses a
tauma title eliminator. Fuck all that Wardley deserves now this

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shot to fight Alexander Usick, he just does. That's what
you get for winning the interim WBO Championship of the World.
Usick is the title holder. Now do I think Fabio
Wardley has what it takes to be Usick? I don't know.
And if I'm looking at it right away, no, Alexander
Usick is the best in the world, and it seems
like by a great margin. I didn't think that Parker
was going to be Alexander Ussick. I don't think Wardley would.

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That doesn't mean he shouldn't get his opportunity to try.
It's the same thing we were arguing in fighting about
for Joseph Parker, he didn't get his shot. This is
what this young man deserves and who knows it is
still heavyweight boxing at the end of the day, and
Wardley is now two fights in a row shown no
matter how far he's down in a fight, he's still
looking for that one shot. You better be perfect. What
did he say? For thirty six minutes? And he just

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needs to be perfect for one moment. What an entertaining fight,
What an entertaining night of fights. It's unfortunate, clear early stoppage,
and it really really is is a disservice to Joseph
Parker to do that. I can't speak into that enough.
It was. It was such a bad early stoppage to me,
but I have to give it up for Fabio Wardy,
for both fighters. It's just an unfortunate way to end.

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But Fabio Wardley wins. I TKO referee stoppage. What do
you guys think in the comments? Let me know down
below and what happens in a Wardley oohsick fight? What's
next for Joseph Parker. I don't have any of those answers,
but I guess we'll find out all right, so we
are back on the way concept presented by The Ring magazine,
and today we are here to talk about the controversy

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that was the ipoke of doom. That's right, Captain Insano,
in the form of surreal God taking two fingers and
shoving them into tom Aspinall's eyes. It was clearly on purpose.
It was clearly intentional. It clearly has gotten out of hand.
People are losing their minds over this and acting as
though to real Gon is an ultimate evil villain in

(59:02):
a movie, when in reality, guys, this is fighting. And yes,
UFC three twenty one could have been a massive moment
almost was, and yes it was a letdown, and we're
gonna cover all the conspiracy theories, but none of this
was on purpose, and it was handled kind of in
the most perfect way you can. I know, that's not
the sensational headline, that's not the clickbait on nail whatever,
but it's just unfortunate. Well, I mean, tom Asman a

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cereal Gon ends in a no contest and we didn't
really learn anything we didn't already know, or maybe we did.
Let's break the whole thing down, but before we do,
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So you FC three twenty one, We're gonna quickly run
through the rest of the card after I talk about
the main event, but we have to spend the majority
of this video talking about the main event. It's the

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most controversial thing that happened today, and the fallout from
this will be one of the biggest things that happens
in MMA. Tom Aspinall, Cyrill Gon. Okay, I told you
guys coming into this fight that there was a real
possibility that Serrell Gon was going to be a problem
for tom Aspinall as much as everyone had spoken about
this being tom Aspinall cutting through Cyrill Gon like a

(01:01:57):
hot knife through butter throughout the entire lead up, and
they did that because the MMA world so badly wants
tom Aspinall to be better than John Jones, not just
now potentially, Ever, was because of the narratives that have
now developed about the people that John Jones fought when
he fought them. I've been hearing for the last couple
of years that John never fought a good fighter. John
never had a great resume. He just fought a much

(01:02:19):
of bloated It used to be bloated middleweights, then it
was bloated welterweights. Now I'm hearing bloated lightweights are we
just going to continue this bullshit? And of course the
PD usage from John Jones that does disqualify him from
a lot of people considering him the greatest of all time.
But this fight was about more than that. It was
a direct comparison, which is unfair completely and MMA doesn't
work like a remedial school math where one plus one

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equals two. But it was a direct line comparison. What
will Tom Aspinall do against the guy that John Jones
made his debut at heavyweight against and made look like
easy work. John Jones walked into a fight with Surrell
God his first fight at heavyweight and submitted him in
under two minutes. It was easy. He didn't get hit,
he dunked under a left hand body lock took him down.
So the question was, how does Tom Aspinall fight this

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version of Cyril Gon arguably lost his last fight to
Alexander Volkov, even though he got the win there, and
he'd already lost two title fights versus John Jones and
Francis and Ghan who. If you want to be amongst
the greats there, you have to beat Cyril Gon because
he's kind of the heavyweight gatekeeper, That's what he's become now.
But I told you, guys, if Cyril Gohan is able
to control the pace and distance of this fight, using

(01:03:26):
his reach advantage, using his kicks, and keeping away from
the big power of Tom Aspinall stuff and takedowns win
timely and necessary. This can become a problem for Aspinall
because as much as we know he's a devastating puncher,
as much as we know he is youthful, fast, agile,
I've been told he moves like a welterweight. This was

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the fight where you were going to fight arguably a
better athlete, not even arguably. I think Cyril gon is
clearly a better athlete than most of of a fighter.
So how do you deal with that level of heavyweight?
Not the guys that you're better than, faster than, more
powerful than that. You can use your athleticism to be
better than. But there's another athlete that's better than you.
What do you do technically to beat him? Fight starts,
and we're finding out right away this is gonna be,

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like I said, a different fight than a lot of
people that said. Tom Aspinall by, however he wants, is
gonna take his chin off. So real Gon was Pepper
and tom Aspinall with his jab and touching him to
the body with it, going upstairs, bloody in the nose,
keeping him at range with kicks. And by the way,
I'm not gonna sit here and do the narrative stuff
where you're gonna hear from most creators on this. You're

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gonna hear that tom Aspinall was getting worked, tom Aspenall
was getting dominated, tom Asmaaal wasn't in the fight. It's
not true. This was a great back and forth fight.
It was a great first round. This was one of
those fights that started to have a big fight field
as they walked to the cage. Because it's the heavyweight
fucking title, for Christ's sakes, it should be the biggest
fight in the UFC. It was very disappointing to see

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how it was promoted. It didn't feel like it until
about five minutes before the fight started that oh shit, yeah,
this is a fucking massive, important fight for the UFC
right now. It felt like an afterthought in the fight buil.
Whether it was tom Asmanal talking about how he wouldn't
fight his friend, whether it was Dana White not really
giving a shit about promoting this thing, and the press
conference being twenty minutes long. Whether it was Tom Aspinall's
dad saying, hey, listen, we're gonna leave the sport in

(01:05:10):
three fights again. Can't blame him if he wants to
go get his back somewhere else, But it doesn't make
somebody want to watch a heavyweight championship fight when the
champ's like, I'm going to be here for like three
more fights, give me a year and a half and
I'm gone. That doesn't really compute with greatness. That means
you're going to be here for a little bit and
gone tomorrow. Regardless, it started to feel that way, and
in the first round you got a great heavyweight matchup
two guys looking to strike, two guys looking to go

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back and forth, a bit of a technical kind of
battle between the two where tom Aspinall had to slow
things down a little bit and he couldn't just be
explosive and twitchy and fast because he, I think, like
a lot of people underestimated Serril Gon. He did not.
He knew he was gonna have to be in this
fight for more than just one round, and it looked
like he was starting to work himself into it. But
also Cyril Gon was prepared for pretty much everything in

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that first round that Tom Aspinall had. Like I said,
Cyril was early and often with his jab out of
the south past stance. He was pepper and Tom with it.
He was bloody in the nose, he was snapping the
head back. There was not a nice short left hand
that Cyril landed early on in the fight as well.
That kind of set the tone to show Tom that
it wasn't just going to be, you know, a bulldozing
one way traffic type of fight. And Tom, on the
other hand, mixed a lot more stuff in this first

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round than you normally would have to see him. Most
guys want to stand in the pocket with him. You
trade right hands, and Tom Aspinall usually wins that. Matter
of fact, he damn near always wins that. But sarreal God,
circling to his right, getting away from the power jabbing
teething made Tom kick. He had some low kicks that
were affected. We'll take a look at some of the
stats in a second, but it was a more variety
Tom aspenaal hell. There were multiple times where Aspinall would

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change levels and use his faints and change levels and
actually tried to take Cyril down a couple times. I
think one Cerrill, we'll get to it. People are saying
he poked him in the eye when he was yes,
his hand happened to hit Tom in the face because
he was framing, which is something that's very normal in MMA,
and there's really no way to get rid of it
unless you want guys to walk around with closed fists
and if'sticass, but boxing gloves on him and call yourself

(01:07:01):
the markets of Queensberry or moy Tie or kickboxing or
whatever else. This is MMA. The gloves are open. We're
gonna have the debate in a second. Another time, Cyril
did a great job of again getting his hands lower,
getting his level lower, getting his underhook, not letting Tom
take him down, shutting him off, and circling. This was
a better Surrell God than you had seen against Allegander Volkofs.
Clearly he was more prepared. Clearly he was better versed

(01:07:23):
than his takedown defense. And also again it's a different scenario,
but hear me out. Tom aspinall as an offensive wrestler
isn't as good as John Jones is. And again I
don't mean this to be a Tom versus John comparison,
but it should show you how good John Jones is
with his timing, with his level change, with the understanding
of the body lock. They were two completely different takedowns.

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Tom tried to athletically kind of get into his double leg.
John slipped outside of the left hand, got to the
body lock, and then a trip. But still it shows
you a bit more of the setup and execution of
John Jones and his takedown versus Tom Aspinall. I'm gonna
be athletic now. And it didn't work the same way
because it's not the same setup and it takes a
little bit more nuanced and technique and timing in an opportunity, right,

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Cyril didn't overextend and give Tom the opportunity, so he
shot anyway, work that way. I'm hyping Cyril up here
because I thought he did a really good job in
this first round. I thought he was winning the first round.
But again, this was not some dominant first round. Tom
Aspinall not just had moments. He was feeling his way
into this fight. He was getting himself back into the
groove of his thing. Again. He's been out for freaking

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what two years. This is a terrible situation. More So
for tom Aspinall, when we get into the eyepoke and
everything else, this is way worse for him because he's
been out for two years. He gets four minutes in
the cage, he's gonna be out for another extended period.
Doesn't get a win, doesn't get the reps, doesn't get
the experience that he is missing out on so badly.
And you saw some of that, especially early in the fight.

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He was tagged, the head was on the center line.
He wasn't able to make Cyril miss as much and
make him pay, but he was able to without making
Hi miss sometimes make him pay. He was able to
sneak the right hand through. He caught Soyrilla with a
couple good right hands upstairs. In fact, he was the
more dominant puncher upstairs. The head strikes went to tom Aspinall.
As we take a look at the numbers, this is
why I say it wasn't a dominant fight in the

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first round towards Cereal. God, he was winning the first
round in my opinion, but it wasn't some domination bulldozing.
Look at Tom He's a fraud type of thing. Sorel
added three more punches, or I should say strikes and
Tom Aspinall did in the first round, and the way
it breaks down is Aspinall went to the head more
fourteen to twenty five. Cyril was eight of sixteen. To
the body, Cerrill was nine of eleven, Tom was five
or six. And to the legs, Tom was eight of

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eight and Sorill was thirteen of thirteen. Again, a close
first round that was showing the way this fight was
probably gonna play out, was gonna be a bit more technical,
was gonna be a bit more strategic, was going to
have to be utilized in adjustments, and that's what you
wanted to see from Tom Aspinall and Cyril Goud. For Cyril,
he'd come off a stretch of oh man, you know
the not great performance versus Volkov, and you know the

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John Jones performance and he's dropped by tight to Avasa
and he comes off a close fight with answers in Ghanu.
You wanted to see him get back to those those
you know, dynamic ways when he was a bit younger.
So both guys, we're having their moments. This was shaping
up to be a good one. And then we get
to the ipoke. The moment in question happens. I don't
remember the time, probably about twenty five seconds left in

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the round. They're both in the center of the octagon.
There's an exchange where Syrill goes back foot out of
southpaw bodykick and he doesn't quite commit to it, and
Tom at the same time wants to throw his left hook,
so he steps in to throw his left hook. He
kind of leans in as he throws it, and Syrilla
God throws the bodykick, but also as he throws his bodykick,
he wants to post with his backhand right because he's

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coming out of southwall. Here comes the left kick. He's
gonna post with his backhand because he's put himself out there,
hasn't quite committed to it, and now you have to
find a way to frame use that post and get
back out of range right now. When that happens, he
not only gets one, he gets both of tom Aspinall's eyes,
gets his fingers directly into the eyes, and both Tom's

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eyes are kind of closed. Luckily, I think for him,
if they were open, he probably, I mean definitely would
have scratched a corny or something. It would have been
some sort of abrasion. He may still have that I
haven't had an update on what's going on with Tom
Aspinall's eyeball when that happens, and here's where the controversy
comes into play. He also is pushing right, He's he
and I'm gonna try to explain this in a way
that's I'm biased. So just just bear with me if

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you can. Sorel gets him and it's a bad eyepoke.
We can look at it here, so you can see
here Syril has his middle and index finger in Tom's
eye for sure, no doubt about it. He's in the
eyes now, as people are going to say on the internet,
digs in, which is not what happens. He's trying, first off,
to post. You see the hand come in. He's not
fingers outstretched purposely. I'm going to stab you in the

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eyes now, Captain Insano style. That's not what's happening. He's
trying to post with his palm. The problem is he
doesn't get his post. Instead, he gets under Tom's chin.
And when you happen to go from there to under
the chin, look where the eyes can go. The finger
are going to go into the eyeballs. That's just a
natural thing that's gonna happen when you press away. And

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also there's no one really framing like this. You know,
no one really frames this way when they're fighting. It
is mostly here and your hands are naturally in a
C shape to catch and parry. So yes, if he's posting,
there's gonna be a little bit of that still there.
So again boom into the eyes. Not great, one hundred percent.

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Tom gets poked here and again they go deeper into
the eyes. But this is not in my opinion, this
is not because of a purposeful dig and rake. This
is because I need to get out of range because
you've gotten too close and I'm trying to push and
catch my frame in my posts right. But again it's
not great. And honestly, the one on the left of
Tom's body looks like it gets the worst end of it,

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But it's actually the one on Tom's right that I
think he ends up being more worried about, which is crazy. Now,
this is why I say it's not on purpose or
anything else. The things I've already told you on to
tip of the fact that Cyril is winning the fight
at least on paper, he's winning the round, he has
no reason to purposely poke Tom in the eyeballs and
risk the fight being called off when he's winning the round,

(01:13:11):
when he's having success. That doesn't make any sense to me.
But also when his hands leave Tom's face, you don't
see a raking. You see them coming down the center
of his face. You don't see them digging and scratching.
You see them coming down the center of his face.
Now again, when we look at Tom in the post
fight interview, he is holding a rag up to his

(01:13:34):
ride eye and squinting with his right eye. So the
middle finger must have gotten Tom worse. And this is
where the I want to dispel a lot of the
narrative stuff. I don't think that Cyril did this on purpose.
I think that again he's using a post much like
I've been linked to the picture of him trying to
stop Tom's takedown and let me see if I can
find it really quickly. So I mean, this isn't a
great picture, But this is again a situation where Gon

(01:13:56):
gets caught in an orthodox stance and Tom levels you
and just doesn't really fully commit to the takedown here,
but he level changes in reaches like he's gonna take
him down, maybe to come upstairs with something. And God
thinking a strike is coming, answers the phone with his
backhand and looks to post again with his lead hand,
which is something that is taught so normally in boxing
and kick boxing and in most combat sports, is a

(01:14:21):
long guard, especially in MMA where you don't have boxing
gloves to be able to just sit here in a
high guard. A long guard will save you a lot
of the time where you can go out and catch
stuff before it gets to you. And this is what
a lot of MMA fighters do when you see them
trying to catch kicks and swipe away, or you see
them again with a long guard that tries to catch
punches on the arm versus let me just do my

(01:14:42):
high guard and hope these four ouncers can take a
fucking two hundred and sixty pound man's right hand. It's
not gonna work. So when I saw people saying he's
in doing this intentionally, it makes me think that a
lot of the MMA community doesn't actually understand fighting. They
just understand narrative. They just understand conspiracy, and that's not
what happened, at least again in my opinion. So no,
I don't think Cyril did this on purpose. He is

(01:15:04):
at fault because he did poke tom Aspinall. And here's
the thing that made me the most mad is people
saying tom Aspinall quit right, because I've defended Cyril. I
don't think he did it on purpose. It's still his
fault because he did it, but I don't think he
did it on purpose, which is why the fight was
a no contest. One because enough time in fighting hadn't
happened yet, and two there wasn't a definitive declaration of
like intent behind the iPod. But the thing that made

(01:15:26):
me more mad was seeing everyone say tom Aspinall quit.
Tom Aspinall was looking for a way out. He couldn't
now out athletic Cyrill. He was getting busted up, he
was getting dominated, so he needed a way out of there.
Are you fucking kidding me? Just as bad as this
conspiracy of Cyrill is such a dirty fighter? How dare
he he did this on purpose? What a piece of shit?
The people on the other side of this. Tom Aspinall,

(01:15:47):
after two years off, came into this fight with every
opportunity in front of him. You win, you get either
Alex Pereira or you get John Jones at the White House.
That's the guy you think quit after everything that he
had to go through just to get a fight. He
quit in the biggest moment of his career. Get the
fuck out of here. And by the way, I said
this same thing when Henry Shuto was called a quitter
by a lot of people online on YouTube and people

(01:16:11):
in the comments called him a fucking quitter when he
didn't want to continue after getting double poked in his
eyes and saying he couldn't see ham Asmanal did the
same here, and all of a sudden it seems to
happen again. You guys can't do this kind of stuff,
calling fighters quitters because they've been blinded in an eye
or two. Not how it goes. Man Tom tells the
the outside physician he can't see. What is he supposed

(01:16:33):
to do? Fight with no vision, fight with one eye
compromised when a foul has occurred. I don't think that's
the answer. I think Tom was well within his right
to not fight here, and he's absolutely not a quitter.
I even saw Jell's son and say, oh, you sometimes
you have to fight with one eye. Yeah, if you
get punched in the eye, that makes sense. When Anthony
Smith and Chell are like, oh, you know it looked
like Tom didn't want to be in there. I've quit before,

(01:16:54):
and I know. I was like, if you get punched
in the eye and it's not a foul, and yeah,
you gotta keep fighting on, but if you get fingers
into your eyeballs and it's a clear foul, you don't
have to keep fighting, and you shouldn't keep fighting because
what is that doesn't matter if you're the heavyweight champion
of the world. There isn't some code that comes with
heavyweight championships that says you must fight through injury because

(01:17:14):
of foul. You want to represent your belt for sure,
and yes it's a tough man sport, but you want
to do that under a fair rule set and under
a fair fight. And again, I'm not saying Sorel did
it on purpose, but he was going to be at
an inherent disadvantage because of a foul and he couldn't see.
How do we expect him to do anything else? I
have no problem when Tom aspinall saying I'm not continuing,
I can't see, which I don't think he said I'm

(01:17:34):
not continuing. He just kept saying I can't see, which
is essentially him being like, I can't fight. I can't see.
It's a terrible look for this fight. I mean, yeah,
this was the big moment for the heavyweight division to
finally get going again and not just be so stagnant
and held up. And John doesn't want to fight, or
maybe he does, and now he doesn't, and he's retired,
maybe he'll come back, and then you have again Tom

(01:17:55):
defending an interim belt in the same challengers, the Cerro,
the Alexander Volkovs type of guys being in that top scene.
You need to get the cogs and the wheels out
and get it going again. And this just didn't help things.
This is for the UFC. This is the worst thing
that could have happened in this fight, Like you had
really two scenarios. You had Cyril gon wins and John

(01:18:16):
Jones in the mind of himself and maybe the fan
of the UFC that goes see Tom should have never
fought this Tom Aspenall guy because he was never on
that level. I don't believe that, but people would have
said that had serial one, because again one plus one
doesn't equal to in this sport. If Tom Aspenall wins,
you have your next great heavyweight and you can have
him challenge John at the White House, or you can
have him challenge Alex Pereira, who, by the way, was

(01:18:37):
watching this fight and when it went to the no contest,
he kind of threw his hands up like and that
was kind of the feeling like, ah, there goes another opportunity. Man. Again,
it's not just people on the internet that are like
accusing tom of like quitting or not wanting to fight.
Is Dana White. And this video told me a lot
about how Dana White looks at Tom aspinall listen at
this great showing.

Speaker 2 (01:18:58):
You know, after the Jones fight, a lot of people wrote,
Cyril gone off, he look damn good tonight.

Speaker 1 (01:19:07):
Would you like to just read book these guys as
soon as Tommy is able to get By the way,
I agree with Dana on that part one thousand percent.
The MMA community kind of, well, the Tom aspinall super
die hard fans kind of boxed themselves into a corner
because on one hand they said that John Jones beating
Cyril Gon was not a great win and that John
was washed up and over the hill, but on the
other said that tom was gonna also smoke Cyril Gon,

(01:19:28):
so if he didn't do it. They kind of put
themselves in this position where, uh, well, if the old
man John Jones got it done in under two minutes
and your boy couldn't get it done, let's essay, right, Like,
they kind of played into exactly what John Jones wanted
them to do, and by doing that, underestimated how good
Cyril Gon is with purely his striking, and if he
got better with his takedown defense, how he would potentially
be a problem. And he was again my opinion, he

(01:19:51):
was winning this fight. It would have been a very
interesting second third, four to fifth. But Tom was gonna
have to make adjustments and so was Cyril. But this
is two years off. How was Tom gonna I do,
not only making adjustments, but also with the gas tank
and not being his explode. There was a lot of
things that play here. So I agree with Dana there.

Speaker 2 (01:20:07):
Back in the Yeah, total pain in the ass. But yes,
as soon as possible, it's unfortunate that it ended the
way that it did. And yes, I think that there
probably will be a lot more interest in the rematch
after they saw you know, I mean he had Tom
bloodied up, and uh, you know, Tom didn't want to
continue in the fight, so the rematch is very interesting.

Speaker 1 (01:20:31):
That's a very very specific way of warding things from
Dana White. Tom didn't want to continue the fight. Now again,
I think Dana White might hate Tom Asmall. I think
he might hate him, and I think there's a couple
of reasons for it. So here is the interview from
TNT Sports Box Office, Dana White sitting down and he's
asked about what tom Asmanal said about his friend Anti Delijah,

(01:20:54):
who I think is ranked number ten right now in
the UFC, and essentially he was like, I Am not
going to fight him if he were to ever fight
for the bell. Isn't it this? This is I think
part of why Dana White again, I think he hates
tom Asital He's.

Speaker 3 (01:21:05):
Already said that the guy that's currently ranked number ten
is his friend Anti de Elijah, and he would vacate
the title if Delaja got to a point where he
was going to fight for the title.

Speaker 4 (01:21:16):
So my friend and training partner's just got to the USC.
So like he's potentially like two or three wins away
from like a title shot. So the thing is, if
I didn't, if I'd never won a title, I'd never
touched gold before I was like, we would have to
fight and I've done it. I would be like, I'll
vacate it and he can have his time.

Speaker 3 (01:21:32):
Firstly, what do you think about that?

Speaker 2 (01:21:33):
You know what I think about that?

Speaker 1 (01:21:37):
I hate that.

Speaker 2 (01:21:37):
You know, many friends, relatives, name it, have all fought
each other before. You know, it doesn't determine whether you
are friends with somebody or you hate somebody. You're competing
against them to see who the best is. But that's
his decision. You know, to even think about vacating it
because you don't want to compete against somebody is absolutely insane.

Speaker 1 (01:22:01):
But he's a grown man. That's up to him. Okay,
that's number one. That's strike one, Strike two. Obviously, as
the Dana White does believe at John Jones is the
greatest of all time and obviously you know this probably
certified that today in But also there was the uh
interview from tom Asminall's dad that came out. It wasn't
really an interview, kind of a backstage thing before the fight,

(01:22:23):
talking about tom Aspenall's future plans that are probably not
going to be with the UFC. You said that you
wanted a box some champions off.

Speaker 3 (01:22:30):
You're okay with an MMA champion, but you wanted a
box some champion boxing for ship.

Speaker 1 (01:22:35):
Money, money, more money? Why know would that would that
be an outcome for it?

Speaker 3 (01:22:40):
No, he's three more fights on the contract night. Okay,
so I don't want to sign a new comfort Okay,
personally so not good.

Speaker 1 (01:22:47):
Again, it's not necessarily a bad thing to have future
plans or whatever, but it's like, uh, probably shouldn't be
talking about that when you're the heavyweight champion of the
world out in public a four your title defenses. That,
combined with this performance, combined with Dana is probably already
slight bias against Tom is making for a terrible situation
for Tom. Aspinall because this isn't the worst thing that

(01:23:07):
could have happened to Tom. He could have gotten knocked out,
flat out cold, and it would have been even worse.
But this is not good when the boss thinks of
you like that, especially when the boss determines what happens next.
But I think Dana's wrong. I think he's wrong for
going after Tom. And again I think those were pointed
words on purpose, like saying he didn't want to fight
versus he couldn't fight, versus he couldn't see like whatever
you wanted to say. Dana could have easily come to

(01:23:28):
his defense there, and he chose not to. I think
that was on purpose. Now, with all of that being said,
that was also asked about Tom's condition, and here was
d C after the fight talking about what he had heard.
He's there in Abu Dhabi. This is what he had
to say. I saw Tom aspinall.

Speaker 5 (01:23:46):
His right eye is covered in a bandage because he
cannot open it.

Speaker 1 (01:23:51):
Still we're twenty minutes past the fight ending.

Speaker 5 (01:23:55):
And what's crazy about that is his other eye was
the one where his hand.

Speaker 1 (01:23:59):
Went knuckle deep.

Speaker 5 (01:24:01):
The right side was scraped down more the left side
was the one that went knuckle deep and really would
have been hard to deal with if not for the
paint he was seen on the other side. Tom was
very upset that people were booing, and then people saw
the replaying, We're like, wait a minute, maybe we should
be buing the other guy.

Speaker 1 (01:24:17):
Then they boot Cyril gun. Interestingly enough, I wonder what
is worse, right, I mean, going into someone's eye like in,
there's gotta be worse, you would think because of the
structural damage it can cause. But raking against you know,
the the the eyeball, the iris probably would do more
damage in the in the in the short term with
the burning and the cut and whatever else that could

(01:24:37):
get in there. So I mean either way, again, I'm
still of the full belief that Tom Aspinall could not fight.
And it's like I said, it's an unfortunate thing. But
here's the silver lining. I say all that to say this,
here's the silver lining. Tom Aspinall and Syrill gon get
another shot at this, and like Dana White said, he
kind of snuck it in there. There will be more
interest and intrigue in this rematch now. And I think

(01:24:58):
you do have to do it right away. I don't
think you can sit on this and give it time
and oh well see, maybe we don't. Maybe No, I
think this is the time because you already have another
fight lined up at heavyweight, one that I think is
the right fight to do at heavyweight that doesn't involve
Tom Aspenall or Surrill. God, I think you do this rematch.
I think both guys have an opportunity with more eyes

(01:25:20):
no pun intended on their rematch to put on a
great performance. And how about this. The last time Tom
Aspinall got into a situation with the knee injury, with
Curtis blades, what happened in the comeback fight. He absolutely
smoked Curtis. So he has an opportunity now, with a
little bit of in octagon experience recently, to get this thing,
hopefully his eyes Okay, get this thing turned around quickly,

(01:25:40):
hopefully by the end of the year. Maybe a December fight,
who knows, depending on how long the eye takes the heel.
Maybe January Paramount card I don't know. But you get
to go in and you get to try this again
and learn from that first round. There's still a lot
to learn from both guys in that first round. Tom
maybe he knew Cyril was going to be that difficult
to deal with early on, and he was pacing himself
and that's how a second fight would go anyway. But

(01:26:00):
you can still take some stuff away. Okay, I got here,
I got hit here. Maybe I can do something different.
I got stuffed on this takedown. Why is that? And
for surreal? Okay, he hit me with a couple of
right hands. I felt his power. Is there something else
I can do to mitigate that? Can I be better
with my hand placement or whatever? It is? Not poking
and you know, framing a different way. Again. I think
it was completely accidental. I'm just saying, you get to

(01:26:21):
download information and come back. But while that's going on,
and while you're planning for the next big heavyweight fight,
you have that one set in. The rematch now gets
pushed back and it gives time for what I think
is the right fight at heavyweight, for a John Jones return.
It's John Jones and Alex Berrera, it is. And John
had this to say on Twitter. First off, this is

(01:26:42):
a little petty, but John Jones is known to be
a little petty. After the guys that either he fights
or he is supposed to fight, go out and don't
have the greatest performance, he says, you know, I told
you once again. It's kind of the Connor McGregor effect.
After the fight ends, here come the Twitter fingers. He
put an eyepatch over the duck emoji which he was
being called a duck for not fighting Tom aspinall there

(01:27:04):
you go. But then he tweeted and he said, Alex,
I'd be down to bring the highest skill level to
the White House. I appreciate the respect you showed lest
dance again A little shot there at Tom aspinall with
the highest skill level. Essentially, John is saying, Alex Perera,
you're the guy I want, and Pereira said the same thing.
He posted a video watching this go down, and it says,
let's make the heavyweight division great again with the Pootons,

(01:27:26):
stoneface emoji and the bones Jones at the White House.
So they're on the same page. They're pushing for the
same thing. I like the fight. I'm sorry. I know
you guys don't, and you think that Tom should be
the rightful I don't know, flag bear for the heavyweight division.
He should be the one taking on Pereira as he
moves to heavyweight for the three belts, or should be
the one taking on Jones because that was his fight.
But here's the problem. When you go to a no

(01:27:48):
contest like this, you can't leave that story unfinished. Tom
and Cyril have to run this back because Cyril was
winning the fight and Tom was still there and he
was still close and it was a good back and forth.
But he's the champ, so he's got to go and
finish that now. And even if he is going to
do it in January February, you could book this for
June summertime Tom fights the winner at the end of

(01:28:11):
next year or whatever. I don't know, but I just
think this is the way you do it, and it's
It made sense when they were first talking about John
versus Alex Pereira, and it makes sense now. So yeah,
I know that's a long winded way of saying. Listen,
you're going to see a lot of narrative on MMA YouTube,
and it's going to be built on emotion, and it's
going to be built on bias, and it's going to
be built on once and frustration and despair. But the

(01:28:34):
reality of this fight is simply there was an awful,
unfortunate mistake from Syrill. God that happens when fighting with
open hand gloves. The ipokes are not just exclusive to Cyrill,
They're not just exclusive to John Jones. It happens, and
it happens a lot in MMA. People act like it
doesn't but it does. And until the UFC do a
Trevor Whitman hybrid glove that makes the fingers bend in

(01:28:56):
and even when you're framing there's that cover over them
or the Pride glove eyebrid something you're always gonna run
into this. It's just a matter of fact, until you
or you make guys try to do their frames like this,
which is nonsensical. Guys are gonna fight loose, their hands
are gonna be here, They're naturally in that c shape. Anyway,
it's just a reality of fighting. It sucks, but that's
the sport. If you want closed fists, watch boxing, Muay

(01:29:17):
tire kickboxing. If you want free hand movement for posts
and grabs and risk control and under hooks and overhooks,
you're gonna get hands free. That's how it's gonna be.
But that's the reality of this, is it. It's a
massive mistake. It's yes, technically the fault of surreal God
for having his hands go into the eyes of tom aspinall,
but it was not intentional, and a no contest is

(01:29:38):
the right call. There was no mal intent. No matter
how many conspiracies and arrows and circles you're gonna see
on people's YouTube videos, it's just the reality of fighting.
Things like this happen. It really fucking sucks. But the
only three words that matter are run it back, do
it soon, and we can move past this anyway, real
quick wrap up before we get out of here. Vernie

(01:29:59):
Yonderoba versus Mackenzie Dern. I'm happy for Mackenzie Durn. The
fight wasn't the greatest thing in the world, but you
know what, Mackenzie Dern gets her championships. She is the
new strawweight world champion in the UFC. Good back and forth.
I didn't think it was worthy of the komain, but
it's a championship fight, so fair play. Mackenzie Durn gets
the victory. Umar and Mcgametov versus Mario Bautista. Baltista almost
stopped him, hit him with a knee on a high

(01:30:21):
kick and almost stopped Umar. I will say this, I
was ready before this fight started. I was ready to
say Umar next title shot. Things could be different this
time around versus Mirob and maybe they still can be
because Umar has a ton of variety and he's a
great wrestler and he's a great striker. But what I
saw here was a tired Umar, a guy that if
this is a five round fight with Marob again, is

(01:30:42):
going to get tired again. And Morob is just a machine.
I did not see even with this victory, and it
was a very good win because Mario Bautista is a motherfucker.
I didn't see enough to make me change my mind
that if they rematch, I'm still picking Morob because that
guy doesn't have any fatigue in him. It doesn't show it.
His fights don't slow down. He is just a machine.
Still have to make the fight happen. But I thought

(01:31:05):
i'd see more out of umar He, Alexander Volkov and
Jildson Almeeda. This one was fun because Almeda essentially did
the recent Almeida style fight where it's the lay and prey.
You know, he lands a takedown, there's not much action,
he controls you and then the round ends, go again
and then again, except this time Alexander Volkov, even with
the most minimal striking from the bottom, I mean literally

(01:31:28):
laying on his back and throwing baby hammer fists, that
was enough to win this fight. And you know it
was more than that, but you get those were the
difference makers. Off his back, he was landing elbows, hammer fist.
When they stood up, he was landing. He's in the clinch.
And there was not a ton of action in this fight.
There just wasn't. But the action and the damage, if
there was any, was coming from Alexander Volkov. And he
wins a split decision whilst being controlled for damn near

(01:31:50):
most of the fight. Good for him after the cerrill
Gon robbery, he gets one back, so good for volkov Man.
Azamon Murza Khana with a jazz knocks out Alexander Racket
in the first round of their fight. It was insane
to see. That was a massive win. He remains undefeated,
uh directly jumping into the top echelon of light heavyweight.

(01:32:13):
I couldn't even believe he knocked him out with a
step in like power, stiff jab. He even retracted a
punch just and that was a shock to me. But hey,
Murza Khanoff is fucking for real. I'm super pumped to
see him next. My my unsung hero and one of
the nastiest, cleanest head kicks I've ever seen. Quillin sal killed.
Who is this guy? I know I'm the casual concept,

(01:32:35):
but I want to see more of him. He knocked
out Nazaaq hack Pressed with a headkick that was picture perfect,
and thank god nazaraat is okay. He laid their face
down on the floor twitching for like two minutes. It
was nasty. I want to see Quilling a lot more.
His name is Sal killed and he damn near Sal
killed a man, dude, Walter Walker, with another heel hook

(01:32:57):
in the first round. That's fucking crazy. But yeah, good fight,
good card, Terrible ending for the UFC, but a silver
lining for both Tom Aspenall and surreal God, if everybody
is healthy and we can turn this thing around quickly.
Learned a little bit about each other. Yes it was unfortunate,
Yes it fucking sucks, but learned a little bit about
each other. What happens in the rematch? I don't have

(01:33:19):
those answers, but I guess we'll find out

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