THE W.A.D.E. Concept - WEEK IN REVIEW - MAYWEATHER VS PACUIAO REMATCH!? DANA WHITE HATES TOM ASPINALL AND ANDREW TATE TAKES OVER MISFITS... - The Herd with Colin Cowherd

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, So we are back on the way concept
presented it by The Ring Magazine, and today we have
a bomb that has been dropped on the boxing world.
Breaking news, folks, apparently according to The Ring Magazine, and
we're going to get into the announcement. Lloyd Mayweather and
Manny pac Yaw are in talks for a rematch in

(00:21):
Big twenty twenty six.

Speaker 2 (00:23):
This is real.

Speaker 1 (00:24):
I am not lying to you. I would never do
such a thing, but we have to talk about it.
What is going on? Why is this happening and where
is it happening. And it's not just that this is
a potential rematch in talks. It's apparently supposed to be
on Netflix. So what is happening? Why is it happening?

Speaker 2 (00:42):
Let's get to all of it, the breakdown. Let's go
all right.

Speaker 1 (00:48):
So, like I said on the Inside the Ring Show
on The Ring Magazine's YouTube channel, Malik Scott, Max Kellerman,
Shady McCoy still still doing his things somehow there he's
a fair play to He's bringing the heat from the
football world into the boxing and cop himself, Mike Coppinger
sat down to talk about this exclusive announcement from the

(01:09):
Ring Magazine let's take a listen.

Speaker 3 (01:10):
However, today Mike Coppinger has a cop.

Speaker 4 (01:16):
Bomb or.

Speaker 1 (01:19):
Like, what is this a double this is this is
big news.

Speaker 2 (01:21):
Actually it's but ahad tell the people, all right.

Speaker 5 (01:24):
So I am hearing from a reliable sources that Floyd
Mayweather and Manny Paciao, yes, more than ten years later,
a rematch is being seriously discussed to take place next
year on Netflix. And Netflix, of course, is very much
into eventizing these whatever they put on, whether it's boxing
or tennis, and so far they've done Jake Paul, Mike Tyson,

(01:44):
they just did Mayweather. Sorry, they just the Cano against Crawford,
and obviously a rematch Tonywether and Paciao, even at this
stage would classify as a big event for Netflix. And
I think it is a real possibility this is going
to happen. Mayweather's now four forty six, I believe, and
pak Yo's around the same age. But look, this was

(02:05):
the biggest fight in boxing history when it happens, and
I think all these years later or rematch, if it happens,
especially after the way Pacio looked in July against Barrios,
there would be serious interests.

Speaker 1 (02:15):
Yeah, I mean all right, so there's the announcement apparently
in talks, in serious talks sometime in twenty twenty six
on Netflix, Mayweather pak you ow two and what cops
said there.

Speaker 2 (02:25):
I agree with a lot of it.

Speaker 1 (02:26):
Number One, I agree that this, regardless of the skill level,
regardless of the time out of the ring, regardless of
all of that, this would still be a very sought
after fight. And I don't know if that's a good
thing for boxing that we continue to have to find.

Speaker 2 (02:41):
I don't want to call it a gimmick fight, but we.

Speaker 1 (02:43):
Continue to have to rely on the past, the greatness
of the past versus the greatness of the present to
provide big monumental event. And yes, I'm referring to Mike
Tyson Jake Paul, but to be fair, we did just
have Canelo.

Speaker 2 (02:54):
And Crawford on Netflix, so there's that.

Speaker 1 (02:56):
But I don't know, I really don't know how to
feel about this, Like, am I upset about it?

Speaker 4 (03:00):
No?

Speaker 1 (03:00):
Is it the thing I'm most excited for in twenty
twenty six for the sport of boxing?

Speaker 6 (03:03):
No?

Speaker 1 (03:04):
Well, I watch it, Yeah, I will, because this is
a bit of a different thing than Mike Tyson, Jake Paul.

Speaker 2 (03:10):
Both these guys are old. Both these guys. I mean,
I'm just saying it like it is. They are both.

Speaker 1 (03:14):
These guys were at one point the highest level in
the world, but when they fought it was about five
years too late. Then that was eleven years ago, and
we saw how the fight went. Then, What would make
it any different now? The only thing I can think
of is because.

Speaker 2 (03:27):
They're a little older, a little slower.

Speaker 1 (03:28):
And they're still willing to get in there and do it,
that maybe we would get more of a slugfest. I
still don't know if Mayweather's reflexes have diminished that much.
I mean, we saw Manny Pacquiao go toe to toe
with a sitting world champion in the sport of boxing
right now, Mario Barrios. That may be more an indictment
on this sport than.

Speaker 2 (03:45):
This fight would even be.

Speaker 1 (03:46):
The fact that forty six year old man he came
out of retirement after three years and went toe to
toe and arguably beat Mario Barrios. Let's be honest, that's
probably more of an indictment on the sport than this
fight would ever be. But you're still gonna get that
feel of like, oh man, here come the novelty act fights.
All right, this is what we're doing. I don't necessarily
feel that way. You're gonna get that feel with a
lot of the hardcore boxing fans. But just like a
Mike Tyson Jake Paul, just like a Jervonte Tank Davis

(04:08):
Jake Paul, just like a Floyd Maywer Logan Paul, you
were going to get more of an attention outside of
your hardcore fan base from casual audiences to watch a
fight like this, And in that way it is a
net good for boxing. It just means more eyes on
the sport.

Speaker 2 (04:22):
That is a good thing.

Speaker 1 (04:23):
And again, this doesn't feel like as much of a
gimmick because they are two legendary names in the same
or around the same weight.

Speaker 2 (04:30):
They had already fought before. You're talking about pound for pound,
number one, number two, greatest all time in those weight
that I mean you can argue for the heavy youer guy.
I'm just saying, these are two of the greatest, and
if they want to do it, even in their old age,
I wouldn't recommend it. But then again, many just fought
a world championship.

Speaker 1 (04:44):
Fight and looked okay compared to what he was in
there with so I don't mind it. I will watch this,
I will break it down, I will enjoy it. And yes,
you can call it a novelty fight. You can say
it's a one off, you can say it's an entertainment fight.
But what the difference in this and something like a
Jake Gervonte fight. There isn't an an advantage wait wise,
experience wise, there isn't a sitting world champion involved in

(05:05):
this fight. If you're taking time out to do it,
there isn't a massive age difference. This is two of
the best in their time fighting years later. This is
almost more so like the Roy Jones Junior Mike Tyson
exhibition that happened.

Speaker 2 (05:16):
In twenty twenty.

Speaker 1 (05:17):
I think this is more like that than it is,
you know, Jake versus Mike. And the Netflix thing is
a great move. I mean, Netflix is I think doing
it right when it comes to finding things that people
want to see grabbing attention when procuring sports for their platform.
You don't see Netflix going out no offense to you know,
smaller events in boxing or MMA or really anything. But

(05:38):
you don't see Netflix going out and grabbing you know,
a regular fight night to put on their platform. You
don't see Netflix going out and showcasing high school football
or even college football. You see them going after the
biggest and most watch events they can possibly make. And
I think, again, that's a good thing that boxing is
included in it at all. Right, You're seeing these exhibitions
with Jake, and you're seeing the Mike Tyson Jake Paul fight,

(06:00):
and those do bring a ton of audience. Whether you
like the fights or not, they do, and again, it
brings more people to the sport. Do I wish that
more people came to the sport for you know, championship
bouts between guys like Tiafimo Lopez and Schaquur Stevenson, or
that we could showcase the Ring four card on Netflix
for David Benavidez and Anthony Yard and Devin Haney and
Brian Norman Junior.

Speaker 2 (06:19):
Of course I do. But you have to find a
way to remind people about the sport of boxing. You
have to find a.

Speaker 1 (06:24):
Way to get it in front of a massive audience
to then have that trickle down effect of the people
that come for the Mike Tyson Jake Paul's, the Jake
Paul Gravonte Davis, the Floyd Mayweather, Manny Pacial sixteen years
after it should have happened, or even the Crawford Canelo fight,
and hold on to as many of those people as
possible that are interested.

Speaker 2 (06:41):
In this sport.

Speaker 1 (06:42):
And in that way, again everyone eats and I think
it is good for boxing. Now you're always gonna have
this discussion of like what's better for the sport?

Speaker 2 (06:49):
Is it a good thing? Is it a bad thing.

Speaker 1 (06:51):
You're gonna have people that go, no, I don't want
to see this because there are two legends that are
gonna look like lesser versions of themselves than we remembered,
and in that way it may hurt their legacy.

Speaker 2 (06:59):
I'm not one of those people.

Speaker 1 (07:00):
I can separate the best from when they were the
best to what they are now. And if these guys were,
I mean, Floyd's close to fifty, he might be fifty
at this point, I don't even know.

Speaker 2 (07:08):
This is going to be a lesser version of that.
But it's not like.

Speaker 1 (07:11):
You know someone in their sixties doing this, or even
Mike in his late fifties doing this, And even then
I could separate, like Jake Paul beating Mike Tyson in
a probout was not in any way, shape or form
me looking at his legacy and being like, damn, Mike
lost to Jake Paul's legacy.

Speaker 2 (07:24):
Done. No, he was fifty eight.

Speaker 1 (07:26):
You know, I could still go back and see twenty
one year old Mike Tyson or in his twenties in general,
and how that guy looked and who he was and
what he meant to the sport versus what he was
at fifty eight.

Speaker 2 (07:36):
And they're two different people.

Speaker 1 (07:37):
You should be able to separate those, but some people won't,
and there will be a generation of kids that do
watch this fight and go, well, these are supposed to
be the greatest of all time.

Speaker 2 (07:45):
They don't look like that.

Speaker 1 (07:47):
These guys don't even look as good as whoever you know,
name the person that they want to watch, you know whatever.
So there is that risk you run like, oh, that
this is supposed to be the two goats, like Manny
packed you out eight division world champ. What are we
talking about? And he doesn't necessarily look like that. But
I will say Manny looked decent enough. I get forty
six years old versus Mario Barrio, so he still got
it at least to some degree. And we've seen Floyd

(08:08):
and these exhibitions, you know with Lea Gotti's step brother,
if you know, you know, uh John Gotti the third.
We've seen him against Logan Paul. We've seen him in
these Degie these exhibitions where he still has his reflexes,
he still can fight. But oddly enough, this might be
a hot take when I watch it this second time around.
You know, Manny had the shoulder issue the first time

(08:28):
in twenty fifteen, and they were still at the top
of boxing, but their skills were fading.

Speaker 2 (08:32):
But this time around, the mean.

Speaker 1 (08:34):
A little older, a little slower, you may get a
better fight out of it. Not necessarily a better looking
aesthetically or higher skilled, but you may get a better
just a generally better fight. And again you do something
like this because it was at the time it still
is the most watched behind pay per view fight ever.
They generated six hundred million dollars I think or something
like that for that fight, and that was the fight

(08:55):
that everybody wanted to see. And if you can capture
that same feel behind Netflix, which doesn't I mean, yes
it has a paywall, but it's not pay per view.
Behind that, you're gonna get a lot of people that
tune into this thing once again, just for that last
go around, that last ride off end of the sunset.
So I listen, I don't think we're gonna see anywhere
near the skill that we would have seen had this
been twenty eleven, you know, twenty ten when it should

(09:18):
have happened. But we still are gonna get a decent
enough fight. And you know, I get both sides of
the argument here when you're talking about do we want
to see it? Is it really good for the sport?
Do we really need to see it? Or we're gonna
have a better way of building the next generation of
fighters to or we don't have to rely on these big,
one off, you know, exhibition type fights.

Speaker 2 (09:36):
I get all that, and I hear it all, but.

Speaker 1 (09:38):
I also think there's something to be said for if
guys still have the ability, if they still are with
it mentally and physically, and they still can draw a crowd,
who's to say that we should stop them from fighting?
It may not be the best look. That this is
who you get the biggest viewing numbers for, and that
should be an indictment on boxing building its next generation
of stars. But just like a Jake Paul Mike Tyson card,
just like a Canelo and Terrence. You use those big

(10:01):
names in the main event to have the trickle down
effect of all the fighters underneath that card. So yes,
you know you have the novelty act kind of way
too late rematch at the top of the car. But
then you have potentially a Shaquor Stevens, a Tiafimo Lopez,
potentially a Ryan Garcia, Devin Haney, potentially a Abdula Mason,
Emiliano Vargas, potentially a Moses Atalma, Jio Pataiah, like these

(10:24):
names of the great boxers that currently reside in their
divisions that we don't necessarily look at as those guys
that are coming up, or maybe that the casual audience
doesn't necessarily know yet. You utilize that undercard for those
type of guys and hopefully the eyes that are on
that card. Just like a Jake Paul Mike Tyson get
to see seventy five million people watch Katie Taylor and

(10:44):
Amana Serano, you get that same kind of a trickle
down effect for those fighters and they become more popular
because of it. That I think would be the best
case scenario. Here is Malik Scott talking about what he
thinks of the fight.

Speaker 7 (10:55):
Biggy back off what Shady was saying.

Speaker 8 (10:57):
I actually believe people will feed into it heavy because
we're talking about two of the elites of all time.
They both are extremely technically sound, they both are known
for what they have done in the ring. Obviously, Mayweather
got the huge promotion market behind them, so does Pacquiao.
I just think it does numbers and I also would
be like a huge fan of it. I think the
way how Floyd is looking lately, whether it's in the gym,

(11:19):
and the way how Pakio has been looking.

Speaker 2 (11:21):
His last fight.

Speaker 8 (11:22):
I'm really into the fight if they're going to do
it again, especially if it's going to be on the
best stage in the world, the ring, the Netflix, and
the same type of numbers.

Speaker 2 (11:30):
Again, I kind of agree with that.

Speaker 1 (11:32):
Now, again, I know it's not the most consequential fight ever,
but if they still are with it, and both guys
have shown physically and mentally they are still with it,
if they still have an ability, they still have a
hunger to fight. And yes it's a money fight, we
get that, but this time the stakes aren't as high.
We don't have world championships involved. You can kind of
free up the rest of the division. Because people are
talking about many Bakyao fighting for another world title.

Speaker 2 (11:53):
Let's not do that. Let's have him go over here
and fight this thing with Floyd, because.

Speaker 1 (11:56):
They're at the same stage of their career, They're at
the same or similar skill level, and we always ask
the question what happened if they fought earlier, But now
we would get the answer to what happened if they
had fought again with a healthier or relatively healthier many
Pakiao or you know later in age when Floyd slows that.
I don't know, but you are going to potentially get
some of the questions answered there of one of the
greatest tandems of fighters that we never got to see

(12:18):
at their prime. But hey, if we get one more
time around and one more dosey dough, I'm not gonna
say no to it. I am fully aware and into
this fight. I like this fight, And again, it doesn't
mean that it has to be consequential for the sport.
And maybe in the grand scheme of things, you want
to get away from stuff like this because it does
outshine the current talent in the sport. Right, you don't
want to have to rely on hitting the old faithful,

(12:40):
which is, let's pull somebody out of retirement because everybody
knew them. No, you want to create new stars so
that people do know them. But for this, because it
really doesn't affect the sport as a whole, because it's
it's almost off on its own island, I say, yes,
I'm into it. You guys, let me know down below
what you think. Breaking News twenty twenty six. It was
supposed to be Floyd and Mike Tyson, which I was
into at all. Thank goodness, that's not happening, because I

(13:03):
just don't why. It makes no sense. We're talking about
Mike who's gonna be sixty, and Floyd, who, yes, is
still gonna be close to fifty, and the Waight difference,
and that seems like a lot more.

Speaker 2 (13:13):
Of a circus streak show than this ever.

Speaker 1 (13:15):
Would give me this fight. If we're gonna do something
like this, put it on Netflix, have it boxing. People
that recognize those two names come in, see a very
talented undercard, become fans of those guys, and elevate the sport.
That's what I think, you guys, let me know down
below what happens. Does this thing even get off the ground?
Is this for real Lloyd Mayweather versus Manny Pacio twenty
twenty six on Netflix. I don't have those answers, but

(13:37):
I guess we'll find it all right. So we are
back on the way concept presented by The Ring magazine,
and today I wanted to make this video. I really
wanted to make it in the last video we did.
I know I'm talking a lot about UFC three twenty
one and tom Asminal, Surrill, Gun, John Jones, this entire saga,
but I can't get enough of it. I'm enjoying dipping
my toe back in the MMA space as well.

Speaker 2 (13:55):
Who knows, maybe maybe maybe it's not a toe dip,
maybe we diving.

Speaker 1 (13:59):
But today, hey, I said something on Twitter after UFC
three twenty one that I am starting to see more
and more as a reality of the situation, and that
is Dana White hates Tom Aspinall.

Speaker 2 (14:12):
I can't unsee it.

Speaker 1 (14:13):
It seems like every time I look at an interaction
with those two, and especially had the post fight press
conference with Dana White after Tom Aspinall gets poked in
his eyes and again not his fault. Can't really do
anything about it and can't continue fighting because he can't
see because both of his eismen poke.

Speaker 2 (14:29):
Dana had a.

Speaker 1 (14:30):
Let's just say, less than supportive response, which I pointed
out here seems pretty insane because that's his heavyweight champion
of the world. And I just quote tweeted a Happy
Bunch tweet by saying, oh yeah, no, Dana hates Tom
Aspinall because of the video we're about to watch.

Speaker 2 (14:45):
Why does this keep happening.

Speaker 1 (14:47):
It's a familiar pattern Dana White having issues at the
top of the food chain, especially with his heavyweight champions.

Speaker 2 (14:54):
And I'm going to get into what I think is
exactly why. It's not just.

Speaker 1 (14:57):
Money that's part of it, but it's a long, long
list of things. What do I mean the breakdown?

Speaker 2 (15:02):
Let's go all right, So here is.

Speaker 1 (15:06):
Dana White talking about the Currill Gon tom Aspinall situation
after the fight on Saturday night, and let's just hear
his response to what it is that happened and the
questions being asked, and just how the headman of the
UFC goes about answering what clearly was not Tom Aspinall's

(15:27):
fault getting poked in his eyeballs, and how he's there
to either support or promote his heavyweight champion.

Speaker 2 (15:33):
Let's take a listen at this.

Speaker 9 (15:34):
Obviously not a way we want to see a main
event and any fight, and give us your reaction to
the IPI you can how it went out.

Speaker 7 (15:41):
I mean, I feel the way everybody feels great showing
shitty ending. You know, I think that after the after
the Jones fight, a lot of people wrote Cyril gone off.
He look damn good tonight.

Speaker 9 (15:57):
Yeah, what did you think about the all Right?

Speaker 1 (16:00):
So first off, yes, what Dana says is true. Like
a lot of people did write Cyril gone off for
this fight. Cyril performed better than a lot of people
thought he would. Tom, I thought, performed how I assumed
he would in the first round. I thought the second
would be a little bit of a different story. But
Cyril was better than I thought he would be, and
a lot of people thought he would be. And for
the people that thought Tom was just gonna bulldoze Cyrill,

(16:21):
this was a reality check that mma math doesn't work.
Just because John Jones beat someone in two minutes doesn't
mean that because Tom you feel is better than John Jones,
he's gonna beat him even quicker.

Speaker 2 (16:32):
Right, It's not how it works.

Speaker 1 (16:33):
Styles make fights and that's why you can't make the
comparison on the other side that John Jones is so
much better than Tom aspinall because he beat Cyril Gon. Yes,
it's a common opponent, but by that logic, like it
took John Jones' decision to beat and he really didn't
beat Dominic Reis or the gusts and first fight, like
you could do that all day and be like, well
this guy beat him better, doesn't really matter. But notice there,

(16:54):
Dana didn't answer his thoughts on the ipoke. He just said,
I feel how everybody feels, and Cyrill look good.

Speaker 2 (17:00):
Nothing about Tom there.

Speaker 9 (17:02):
From what what did you take from those four minutes?

Speaker 7 (17:04):
Look like we're in for a few rounds and it
was gonna be a good fight.

Speaker 9 (17:09):
It would seem obvious that a rematch is right on
the cards. Would you'd like to just readbook these guys
as soon as Tom is able to get back in the.

Speaker 7 (17:15):
Yeah, total pain in the ass, but yes.

Speaker 9 (17:18):
Yeah, have you got any metal again?

Speaker 2 (17:22):
It's a total pain in the ass.

Speaker 1 (17:23):
And he's right, yeah, it's a pain in the ass
to have to do this again, But there is a
silver lining that yes, you now get maybe a bigger
fight than you would have. This is one of the
worst things that could have possibly happened on this card,
for sure, especially seeing as the UFC has this relationship with,
you know, Abu Dhabi in the Middle East, and this
is them paying a shit ton of money for this
fight to kind of flop like it not even kind
of it flopped, and so did the majority of the card. Really,

(17:47):
there were great performances, but as far as name value
monetary value, the whole thing wasn't a ton of starmaking performances.
Outside of Quillen uh Syle killed that guy. I'm gonna
be watching every one of his next fights. But look
at Dana's ad its toward it. It seems like he's
just more upset, like you know, pain in the ass,
we gotta do this again, not like, oh, I hope
my heavyweight champion is all right.

Speaker 2 (18:08):
I don't know it.

Speaker 1 (18:09):
Just watching him answer these questions, there isn't really any
thought given to the actual eyepoke and how it's affecting Tom.

Speaker 2 (18:15):
More so just like, ugh, gotta do this shit again,
like he does.

Speaker 1 (18:19):
It seems like he doesn't want to deal with this situation,
and not just asmental gone, but really Tom aspinall Again,
I could be reading too much in but that's just
the way I'm hearing him. It almost seems distraught and
kind of like I'm fed up with it.

Speaker 4 (18:32):
The club date on tom or is it still too soon?

Speaker 7 (18:34):
He's on his way to the hospital.

Speaker 9 (18:36):
It's a bit of a weird question, right It was
ruled in no contest because of an unintentional eyepoke. What
does it take to make an ipoke intentional? And is
there even a way you could ever prove that?

Speaker 7 (18:45):
Who the fuck knows? Who gives a shit? What are
you gonna do?

Speaker 5 (18:51):
What?

Speaker 2 (18:52):
I don't mind the answer.

Speaker 1 (18:54):
You could tell he's Feda is pissed that this is
the way the thing ended, and I get it. We're
all pissed. That's not the way we want that fight
to go. But it's a good question. That's Oscar Willis
with the MacLife asking about the intentionality of strikes and
how do you even determine it? Because essentially this fight
was ruled a no contest because they determined that, and
I think rightfully that Cyril accidentally I poked him, and

(19:17):
because the intention was not mal malintent pars that you
can't disqualify him and because Cyril was probably winning that round.
Now there is a bit of a gray area when
you talk about the intentionality of strikes landing and what
that means, Like, does it matter if you intentionally foul
someone because you still fouled them, you still have to
pay the price for fouling them. This is why I'm
in favor of taking points immediately, no warnings involved. But

(19:39):
if the fight is stopped, should that not be a DQ?
Should it be a no contest? I really don't know.
I feel like a no contest is the right call
because it was so early in the fight, because again,
to me, was a mistake that if Cyrill Gon makes
that mistake whilst winning, I don't know. It just doesn't
feel right to go full on DQ. But he is
the reason that the fight was stopped. He is the
reason that the fight could not continue, and it was

(20:00):
because of a foul.

Speaker 2 (20:01):
So it's a good question. But you hear Dana like, ah,
who gives a shit? It just I don't know. It
feels like a checked out Dana White.

Speaker 1 (20:07):
It does when he answers questions like that and like
not even giving time to answer in a way that
you know he could spin it into promoting the next
event or spin it into all right, you know, we
do have to figure this out because I'm tired of
this shit happening. Here's what I'm gonna do. Here's how
I'm going to make a difference to eliminate this from
the sport. And I don't know that you can with ipokes.

(20:27):
I don't know that you can in any ways. Sure
it's not gonna happen, but just that the answer itself
is what I'm talking about. He's like, I don't who
gives a shit? Who the fuck knows?

Speaker 2 (20:36):
Who gives a shit?

Speaker 1 (20:37):
That doesn't scream a guy that's locked in when his
heavyweight champ potentially at this point he doesn't know has
got a really bad eye injury.

Speaker 2 (20:43):
And he's like, a who gives a fuck? You know,
Like that's kind of crazy to hear.

Speaker 9 (20:47):
I know, we uh, you know, tried to do new
gloves before and.

Speaker 4 (20:51):
That kind of didn't work out.

Speaker 9 (20:52):
Is there anything we can do to stop these IPOs?
Would you have a look at maybe trying to change
the gloves again or.

Speaker 4 (20:57):
Is it just part of the sport?

Speaker 9 (20:58):
Just shit happens.

Speaker 7 (21:00):
Yeah, I mean, no matter what you do with the glove,
I mean that they're gonna happen, and what do.

Speaker 1 (21:08):
You think for the rest of the it is gonna happen. Regardless,
I do think they should change the gloves. I think
that the Pride style glove where they cut the hands purposely,
even if your hands are open, that they're gonna have
the fingers kind of back towards you more than straight out.
But then again, if you raise the hand up and
those curved gloves are this way, if you're trying to
catch stuff, then.

Speaker 2 (21:26):
I don't know it. You're never gonna fix it completely.

Speaker 1 (21:30):
But it's funny when when Oscar Willis talks about you know,
we tried the new gloves for a little bit, and
then the new gloves when the UFC introduced them, were
a bit more curved. They did have a bit more
of a curvature to them. And funny enough, the guy
that had the most trouble with him and didn't want
to wear them, and I'm not I don't know if
it was solely because of him, but they tried them out.
John Jones fucking hated them, didn't want to wear them,
refuse to wear them against the real God. And then

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they did go back to the original Glove. Most people
said that was because of the issue of guys not
knocking people out, and you know, fight's not being as explosive.
I don't don't know the reason, but one of the
bigger people that had an issue with the New Gloves
when they tried him was the serial iepoker himself, the
man that should be in a mo and Curly three
stooges skit.

Speaker 2 (22:10):
It's John Jones.

Speaker 1 (22:11):
He was gouging eyes, dude, like it was almost like
sign language. The way he was poking fingers out at people.
It was clear he was a problem and still is
if he ever fights again. So I don't know if
that has anything to do with why the Gloves went
the other way, But we all know that Dana he
fancies himself some John Jones as the goat, so you
can tell where he's leaning in.

Speaker 2 (22:30):
That back and forth.

Speaker 1 (22:31):
If John or Tom were to have an issue, he's
going to side with John Jones.

Speaker 9 (22:35):
And I know that you said you'd want to do
the remass between Tom and Cyril is very fresh, but
any potential timeline for that, like maybe January the kick
off the Paramount.

Speaker 7 (22:45):
Card, Yeah, I mean they're both in shape other than
whatever's wrong with his eye. You know, both guys are
not injured or so as soon as possible, thank you,
thank you.

Speaker 1 (23:00):
I think that if Tom, which we've seen Tom's video now,
we did a breakdown on that a couple of days ago.
I think that if if Tom is healthy, then it
would be a perfect situation. I mean, knock on wood,
nothing bad happens again, because you again have a you
can't have Oh God, I don't want to put it
out there. You can't have another flop for your first

(23:22):
fight on Paramount. If you guys remember the JDS and
Caine fight I think was the one on Fox when
they debuted, and it was a something I forgot what happened,
but it was a shitty first debut when the UFC
first went to Fox.

Speaker 2 (23:36):
It was not a great night. You can't have that
kind of thing happened.

Speaker 1 (23:39):
So again, hopefully nothing bad would happen again for these two.
But that would be a perfect landing spot for Tom
aspen On and surreal, God, is that first Paramount card
in January because you're kind of booked out to the
end of the year and you do want to make
a splash on that first card. They were thinking maybe
it'll be Ilia, maybe not. Now you have a perfect
opportunity to slide this fight in there. People are gonna

(24:00):
be more interested in it, and there's gonna be a
bit more of a buzz based off this first fight,
based off the controversy, and based off the performance of
both guys in the time that we saw them fight.

Speaker 2 (24:09):
So I think that would be a perfect spot the rule.

Speaker 10 (24:11):
It's only the second time in a championship fight that
we do have a no contest for such thing. We
just have to go by the judges and the fighters will.
That's just the way it is for him to say
after five minutes, like can no longer continue. What I'm
trying to figure out is is there different levels of ipokes?

(24:38):
Do you see what I'm saying?

Speaker 7 (24:40):
Nobody sees what you're saying, sir?

Speaker 2 (24:44):
What kind of question was that?

Speaker 1 (24:47):
I guess what the guy's asking is like, is there
a way to determine severity of ipokes? And is there
a way to based off that delineate between no contest
and disqualification? And the answer as of right now, I
don't think unless you saw like a John Jones thing
where his hand is fully extended and his fingers.

Speaker 2 (25:05):
Are parallel to the ground.

Speaker 1 (25:06):
He is like, you know, on purpose, like I'm gonna
stab you in the eyes if you come any closer
type of thing, Like he's jabbing with his hand open
and he's like, ah, I don't. I don't know if
there's a way to determine intentionality, but that would be
the way to delineate between no contest and disqualification. I
think it was mme.

Speaker 2 (25:24):
Guru that said he would like to.

Speaker 1 (25:25):
See if you're down on the scorecards and you do
something like that, then yeah, you're getting dc'ed. If you're up,
then no contest. But I don't know, man, I think
there just needs to be a clear, one rule application
for everything. If that means you get dq'ed as soon
as you I poke someone and they can't continue, then fair.

Speaker 2 (25:41):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (25:42):
If that's what we need to do to make a
concrete rule on these things, Yeah, it's gonna suck, but
that at least discourages it to a point of like,
I may lose if I do this, even if it's
an accident, So let me be extra cautious on it, right,
Like we have these kind of things in place for
headkicks when people are on the ground or uh you
know what used to be twelve to six elbows Like

(26:02):
those things are pretty hard stance.

Speaker 2 (26:04):
You don't do them or you get de cued.

Speaker 1 (26:07):
Maybe we can do something like daff rye Godget.

Speaker 10 (26:09):
It's only up to the fighter to stay whether or
not he wants to continue.

Speaker 7 (26:14):
Yeah, that's just the way it is. Well, yeah, what
I'm gonna say, Uh, hey, Tom, I guess no, you're
gonna keep fighting.

Speaker 10 (26:22):
Cereal try to tell him or go toward him, And
Jason Arisox said don't talk to the opponent at that point,
so I guess they were trying to figure out to
one another.

Speaker 7 (26:31):
You can't just like you know, I can't make people fight,
right if I if I want to put together a fight,
I can't make people fight. And you definitely can't make
somebody continue if they if they feel they've been injured.
Only Tom knows what happened, you know, could he see?

(26:51):
Couldn't he see? Could he continue? Only he knows that.

Speaker 1 (26:55):
This is what I'm talking about. Man, Again, you see
the way he answers that question. Now again, the question
was asked really like, oh, only only the fighter King
determined that, and he kind of walked Dana into saying like, again,
how do we make a concrete ruling here? But again
we're talking about Tom's choice, in Dana's words, choice only
he can decide whether he wants to fight or not
to continue fighting with no vision in one eye and

(27:16):
blurry vision in the other versus Again, I don't think
Cyril did it on purpose, but Surrel committed the foul.
He is in the wrong here Tom is not in
the wrong. And the same way I said this about
Henry Suhuto and Songya Dong where he got song youa
donged in his fucking eyeballs. You can look at this
fighter as a referee and ask him what he wants
to do. And that's a terrible way of judging in

(27:36):
my opinion, because the rules should protect a fighter in
this moment more so than the old you know, pull
yourself up by your bootstraps and get on with it, fighter,
because in every scenario where a fighter not every but
a lot of scenarios where a fighter continues on after
being eye gouged, they lose DC and the Steep Bay
Fight Steepe in the d C trilogy as well Henry Sejudo,
Song You Dong. These are things that continually happen because

(27:59):
they're compromised, and for Dana to sit there and talk about, well,
only Tom knows if he could see or not.

Speaker 2 (28:03):
And I can't make guys fight.

Speaker 1 (28:04):
I can't make him while not giving any sort of like, hey, yeah,
it's a real fucked up it's his fault that this happened.
And if he doesn't do that, then we're not having
this discussion. We don't hear that from Danta. I mean,
he's not saying it, but he's kind of saying only
Tom knows if he was really hurt or not. Only
Tom knows if he was looking for a way out
or not. Like he's not saying those specific words, but
he's essentially doing that, and that's fucking crazy. Tom.

Speaker 2 (28:26):
We saw go to the doctor.

Speaker 1 (28:28):
He described it as his eyeball feeling like his his
ey've always poked into the back of his skull.

Speaker 2 (28:33):
That's what happened.

Speaker 7 (28:34):
Dude.

Speaker 1 (28:34):
Again, I don't think the intentionality really matters when we're
talking about who should be, you know, receiving the blame
for this, and it really shouldn't even be like a
who should be receiving the blame?

Speaker 2 (28:43):
How do we go forward?

Speaker 1 (28:44):
Having confidence in the heavyweight champion of the world, if
not only the online fan base is like, ah, look
at Tom, scared quitter blah, yeah, have the freaking head
of the UFC being like, well, I don't really know.
I can't make him fight. You know, only he knows
what are we doing. I was disappointed in the way
this fight.

Speaker 2 (28:59):
Was Bill up.

Speaker 1 (29:00):
I'm more disappointed in the way this is being handled
the presser.

Speaker 2 (29:04):
This is crazy.

Speaker 1 (29:05):
You try not to venture into like having personal bias,
but Dana clearly likes some fighters and doesn't like others.
I don't know how you look at this and don't
think Dana has a bias, so like not like Tom
aspitall because that's what he's telling us here.

Speaker 7 (29:16):
First of all, I can sit here right now. The
fight just got over, however long ago. What makes sense
is to do the rematch. It makes sense, you know,
sitting here tonight, I said, yeah, that makes sense. I'm
not saying that's what's gonna happen. Anything happened between now
and you know when I get him. We're not talking
this Tuesday. I go from here to Saudi. I go

(29:36):
to Qatar, then Saudi. I'm still here for another eight
or nine days, So I don't know what's gonna happen.
I'm not saying anybody is going to be a number
one contender outside of Cyril Gone. I don't know. But
right here, right now, being honest, which I never do
this ever, is talk about you know what next fight's
gonna happen. The rematch is what makes sense.

Speaker 1 (29:58):
I was gonna say, he's talking like, rematch may not
even be the thing he wants to do or that
they go with. He's like, I'm not saying that's what
happens next, but it makes sense. If you don't give
this fight a rematch, that would be even worse. I mean, yeah,
you could do like imagine Tom is like, oh, I'm
not gonna give that guy a rematch, that cheater or whatever,

(30:18):
and you do Tom versus Volkov two. Ah.

Speaker 2 (30:21):
You have to ride this wave. You have to.

Speaker 1 (30:23):
I think Dana wants to see it out and see
the rematch, but there's so much now built up to
this fight, there's so much attention around it, it would
be a flat fucking miss to not do it again. Ironically,
this ipokes has garnered more attention around this fight than
it ever had before.

Speaker 2 (30:40):
Any of that stuff.

Speaker 1 (30:41):
This fight, it was a big fight for the people
in the in the MMA space, but now it's reaching
other levels of casual fans that are gonna be locked
in for this second one because they're on one of
two sides.

Speaker 2 (30:50):
They're on the syrilla as a cheater. Fuck that guy.

Speaker 1 (30:53):
I hope Tom knocks him outside or Tom aspinall quit.
He didn't want no part of it. I hope Cyril
gets the job done even more this time. Like you're
seeing these splits happen right now in the m A
scene and you have to run with it.

Speaker 6 (31:04):
With the few things we've seen into this fight, I
feel like Cyril was doing pretty well. Do you feel
the same, and do you feel that he's earned respect
so that people would care even more when you make
this fight again and the odds would be more equivalent.

Speaker 7 (31:20):
Yes, yes, I agree. I think that I said earlier
because of the John Jones fight. I think everybody was
sleeping on cyro Gune and and sort of wrote him off.
And he's right behind me. He's coming in next, so
you guys can ask him how he felt. But I
feel like, you know, I'm sure in his camp he
was training like a animal. For this fight, and it's

(31:42):
unfortunate that it ended the way that it did. And yes,
I think that there probably will be a lot more
interest in the rematch after they saw you know, I mean,
he had Tom bloodied up, and you know Tom didn't
didn't want to continue in the fight. So God is
very interesting.

Speaker 1 (32:02):
You only answer a question that way if you fucking
hate your heavyweight champion.

Speaker 2 (32:07):
You can't convince me otherwise.

Speaker 1 (32:09):
Yes, the question was asked about Cyril, but Dana attributes
all of the things that happened good in the.

Speaker 2 (32:15):
Fight to just Cyril. God.

Speaker 1 (32:16):
You hear him talking about you know, people wrote Cyril off.
I agree with him, by the way, based on the
John Jones fight, people did write Cyril gone off and
say that Tom was gonna run through him.

Speaker 2 (32:25):
And all that.

Speaker 1 (32:25):
But you hear him then go, yeah, you know, I
bet Cyril was training like an animal for this, not
mentioning that Tom Aspinall has been off for fifteen months.

Speaker 2 (32:32):
He was probably training his ass off too.

Speaker 1 (32:35):
No, and mostly the time he took off was because
he was trying to lobby for a John Jones fight
that the UFC never got done for. This is the
way a fan of Cyril or John Jones and a
hater of Tom Aspinall speaks. Again, maybe it's just me
reading too much into it that sounds like coded language,
like yeah, Tom didn't want it anymore, you know, like, yeah,
he had him blooded up and he just didn't want
to go. No, he got his eyes gouged and he

(32:55):
couldn't see what are we talking about?

Speaker 2 (32:57):
This is your heavyweight champion.

Speaker 1 (32:59):
And again I have to think you only speak this
way if you have a preconceived bias. And I say
preconceived because I don't think this just developed tonight. I
don't think this just happened where you know, Dana just decided,
oh fuck Tom Aspinall, he's a quitter or whatever. Think
it's because the things we've talked about in previous videos,
like something like this this week from Andy Aspinall, which

(33:19):
by the way, I will say is a terrible, terrible
thing for Andy Aspinall, Tom's father and head coach to
be doing during fight week talking about how he's going
to take Tom out of MMA and take him into
boxing because the pay's better over there. They only have
a couple of fights left, and then he doesn't want
him to sign a new contract with the UFC. This
is stuff that you don't do as the sitting heavyweight
champion because all it does is burn bridges with the

(33:40):
decision makers at the UFC.

Speaker 10 (33:41):
You said that you wanted a box some champion off
the ship. You're okay with an MMA champion, but you
wanted a box some champion.

Speaker 11 (33:46):
Boxing could show the money more money, I know, would that?

Speaker 4 (33:52):
Would that be an outcome?

Speaker 5 (33:53):
F it?

Speaker 3 (33:53):
No, he's three more fights on the contract, fight Oka,
So I don't want to sign a new conference, okay
person with.

Speaker 2 (33:59):
Him before the fight.

Speaker 1 (34:00):
Tom now has two fights left on his deal, and man,
I just have a feeling it's gonna be a rough
two fights. They're gonna try to give Tom aspinall because again,
if you remember back when Dana White had issues with
Francis and Gan who heading into the last part of
his career. Remember Dana White was all about heard of
the Francis and Gan who trained when he was gonna
fight step A for the first time. Dana White, remember

(34:21):
he had some issues with Steve A at that time.
All the talk was about Francis, how he hits harder
than a Chevy Cruz going twenty miles an hour, or something,
and how he's the most devastating whatever in heavyweight history.
This is all things that were being said about Francis
and gan Who before the first step A fight, and
then step A beats Francis. I'm pretty sure Dana didn't
put the belt on steep A after he beat Francis again,

(34:43):
a little sign that there wasn't a great relationship there.
I think step A took the belt, gave it to
his coach, and let the coach put it on him.
And then Dana got in the press conference afterwards and
I think was trashing Francis a little bit. He wasn't prepared,
he was smelling the roses and all that, and then
he got back on the Francis train. Francis started to
get those wins back and beat Stepe the second time,
and all of a sudden, Dana White was saying John

(35:04):
Jones shouldn't come up and fight Francis, and god who
don't want that smoke essentially, And then as things played
out a little further and Francis got toward the end
of that contract and you started to hear Dana White
talk about how France has had the wrong people around
him and how he was hard to deal with, and
Dana can be right about all those things.

Speaker 2 (35:19):
And it maybe is that.

Speaker 1 (35:20):
We're seeing more and more now with Francis. But the
point I'm making is this is a pattern of behavior.
If you give Dana an opportunity to look at you
as somebody that's not going to be good for business,
that someone that doesn't want to do business, or that
someone that's going to turn their back on the UFC,
he's not gonna like you. And this is why I
think he's starting to hate the Aspinalls and Tom Aspenall
in general. Not to mention one of the cardinals sins
when you're dealing with Dana White, one of the things

(35:42):
he hates more than anything. And I agree with him
on this is a champion that won't fight his friends. Again.

Speaker 2 (35:46):
It's not like any.

Speaker 1 (35:47):
Other sport where you're playing the sport against your friend,
but this is fighting, so emotions can can dictate how
you defend whatever. Here's Dana White responding to Tom Asminal saying,
essentially he wouldn't fight one of his friends that just
entered the UFC.

Speaker 3 (36:00):
The guy that's currently ranked number ten is his friend
Anti Elijah, and he would vacate the title. If Delijah
got to a point where he was going to fight
for the title.

Speaker 5 (36:10):
He's one of like my genuine friends, I'll vacate it
and he can have his time.

Speaker 12 (36:14):
Really, I wouldn't fight. There's some stuff to me that's
like more important than my money and titles.

Speaker 7 (36:21):
You know what I think about that. I hate that.
You know, you know, many friends, relatives, name it, have
all fought each other before. You know, it doesn't determine
whether you were friends with somebody or you hate somebody.

(36:42):
You're competing against them to see who the best is.
But that's his decision, you know. You know, if he
defends the title and does whatever he does. To even
think about vacating it because you don't want to compete
against somebody is absolutely insane. But he's a grown man.
That's up to him.

Speaker 2 (36:58):
This is the type of stuff I'm telling you.

Speaker 1 (37:00):
It's been building now, and this was just this week.
This was just this fight week. So I have to
think it's been building for a while now. But when
you see all this evidence laid out, I think my
assumption here is pretty clear.

Speaker 2 (37:10):
Dana White fucking hates Tom Aspital. I think he hates
dealing with him or his dad.

Speaker 1 (37:15):
I think he hates the outcome of this fight and
probably attributes it more to Tom than he does Surreal Gone,
which I think is insane, and I think potentially this
could be also a part of this John Jones discussion
that's been going on for the last it feels like
a year now about who is the best in the world.

Speaker 2 (37:32):
Or top pound for pound number one.

Speaker 1 (37:34):
Dana has always had issues with John Jones, but for
whatever reason, recently has stuck by him for power for pound,
for best ever, for best in the UFC right now,
and even after the Tom Asmanal fight fell through, he
is still somewhat taking that side of things, which as
the promoter, I feel like you could.

Speaker 2 (37:51):
You don't have to do that.

Speaker 1 (37:52):
Dana's always run it his way, and he's gotten personal
with people before the title Ortez of the World, which
I think he was right about in some cases. He
had his grievances and it was fair there as well,
But you know Francis and Ganu, and there's been so
many But I just feel like this is the worst
thing that could possibly happen for Tom aspinall right now
is the pylon effect that's happening online, the ipoke of doom,

(38:12):
his dad's saying a lot of these things this week.

Speaker 2 (38:14):
I think that was a terrible move.

Speaker 1 (38:15):
Him saying he doesn't want to defend versus his friends,
the idea of him moving to boxing and leaving the
heavyweight division, all of it is bad. And now he
essentially has to fight Surial God and the UFC in
this rematch in January, and hope to God nothing bad happens,
because as of right now, all blade all hatred from
the top from the decision makers at the UFC, with

(38:36):
Tom still having two fights left.

Speaker 2 (38:38):
They don't like him.

Speaker 1 (38:39):
That's what I think, you guys, let me know down below.
I don't think this thing is gonna get better before
it gets worse.

Speaker 2 (38:43):
I hope so.

Speaker 1 (38:44):
But it doesn't look like this relationship is panning out.
We've seen this story before. It usually ends ugly. What
do you think happens? Don't have those answers, but I
guess we'll find out.

Speaker 2 (38:53):
Folks.

Speaker 1 (38:53):
We're back on the way concept presented by The Ring magazine,
and oh my goodness, what just happened?

Speaker 2 (39:00):
And I was at a family get together.

Speaker 1 (39:01):
As you can see, I'm back home in Tennessee.

Speaker 2 (39:04):
I was just hanging out with.

Speaker 1 (39:05):
The fam and all of a sudden, a massive trailer
from Misfits just dropped and they're calling it the Fight
before Christmas.

Speaker 2 (39:11):
We predicted this.

Speaker 1 (39:12):
Just a couple of I guess weeks ago now massive announcements,
Andrew tait apparently storming the castle here Trojan Horse into Misfits.
There's so much to get to, but the main thing
I'm taking away is that there is some at least
what seems to be ruffling of the feathers mallard between
KSI and Misfits.

Speaker 2 (39:31):
Ma'am's saying he's done with we.

Speaker 1 (39:34):
Let me just get to the trailer and I'll tell
you guys what I actually think, because what I'm not
so sure about is that what we're seeing is the
actual case of what's going on with Misfits. I have
my own theories of what's happening behind the scenes, but
I'll get to that as soon as we break down
The Fight before Christmas. Du Bay, December twenty twenty twenty five.
Andrew Taitu is for sure fighting.

Speaker 2 (39:53):
But a whole lot more than that. What do I
mean the breakdown?

Speaker 11 (39:56):
Let's go, ladies and gentlemen, some of you may know me,
Mams Taylor, president of Misfits Boxing.

Speaker 2 (40:09):
I'm just stopper.

Speaker 1 (40:11):
We're not eleven seconds into the video, and the first
thing ma'am says is something may know, ma'am. If anybody
is watching this video that doesn't know who Mans is,
maybe they're new fans to Misfits.

Speaker 2 (40:25):
But I don't know why.

Speaker 1 (40:26):
That cracked me up. And he's got the shades on.
Oh my goodness, all right, real quick, we have we
have it looks like new sponsors Duel dot com And
is this say, Memo House or Memehouse, something called meme House.
Two new sponsors of Misfits right away, that's what I'm seeing.
We're gonna hit a new rock star style breakdown with this.
Mams has got some sort of designer shades on, and

(40:47):
the designer shades have a design on them.

Speaker 2 (40:49):
That's gotta be some double entendre. The beard is.

Speaker 1 (40:52):
Gray with white, meaning he's either ready for his winter
phase or there's been a lot of stress going on
behind the scenes of Misfits. Stay tuned for that. And
then he's got his Gucci denim jacket on, which you
know every farmer in Tennessee war.

Speaker 2 (41:07):
I love man's dude.

Speaker 4 (41:09):
I come here today to give you some news.

Speaker 1 (41:12):
Some of you want, what is the chessboard looking like chess?

Speaker 11 (41:14):
But look at that like some of you will, Okay,
you'll understand because it's coming from a place of truth.
Misfits Boxing has been around for just over three years now,
three amazing years. We've achieved some incredible accomplishments.

Speaker 4 (41:31):
When kas I said.

Speaker 1 (41:33):
It is crazy, I know a positive a lot. It
is crazy to think that Misfits has been around for
three years twenty twenty two.

Speaker 2 (41:38):
I remember it like it was yesterday. It was incredible.

Speaker 1 (41:41):
I mean there was so much potential and hype for
this company and this card was insane. And KSI with
the two fights in one night, don't really know if
that worked out so good for swarms, and it kind
of did for swarms of Banata, I'll be honest.

Speaker 4 (41:54):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (41:55):
And then you had FUZI was on that car dead.

Speaker 2 (41:57):
He was on that car.

Speaker 1 (41:58):
Christian Bank Junior was on the broadcat cast team that night.
True Jordy legend. By the way, a guy that doesn't
get enough credit in this scene, A guy that should
be a part of this scene. Still Team Star was
there freaking everybody. It was insane. That was one of
my first massive opportunities as well. Wow, three years later,
man insane.

Speaker 11 (42:18):
When KSI said I want to box, I said, let's
have your own IP. You don't need to work for anyone.
Let's create our own IP. I came up with the
name Misfits Boxing. I coined the phrase crossover boxing. I
put everything together. We had a tremendous run. KSI was
fighting two three times a year, and then KSI said, hey,

(42:42):
I need a break from boxing. The break was over,
it was time for him to fight. He got sick,
he hurt his hand fair enough. Then it happened a
second time and almost sank the ship of Misfits.

Speaker 1 (42:56):
Ma'am's mams is kind of turning on KSI. Here you
hear him in the first part of this thing.

Speaker 5 (43:03):
Go.

Speaker 1 (43:03):
You know, I built the name, or I created the name.
I coined the term crossover boxing. I handle all of
the details. I did a lot of this. Ma'am's like
puffing his chest out saying listen, CASI. You know, he
just kind of showed up. I did all the work
behind the scene.

Speaker 2 (43:17):
This is my shit.

Speaker 1 (43:18):
That's kind of what I'm getting at here now. I
can't even believe what I'm seeing. You have to take
a lot of this, I think, with a grain of salt,
because you know what Misfits and what Mams likes to
do very much, entertainment factor very much. We're gonna get
you to buy in because of a storyline here?

Speaker 2 (43:37):
Is that what I'm seeing?

Speaker 1 (43:38):
Am I seeing a storyline created right in front of
my eyes here? Because if there's one person I had
known Mams to never turn on ever, it was KSI
and vice versa. Right, There's been multiple opportunities for that
to happen, and both guys have stayed loyal. It's a
massive trade of both of them guys. They stay loyal
to people that are loyal to that.

Speaker 2 (43:56):
But this is interesting, this is interesting.

Speaker 1 (43:59):
I'm getting worked here, I know I am, but I
think it's hilarious.

Speaker 4 (44:01):
Is awesome boxing. And since then, it's been a tweet here,
a story there.

Speaker 11 (44:09):
That's it. He's the CEO. Where's Misfits gonna go from here?
It's got to be a two way street when you
have a partnership, and this is a one way street
and this street is going down.

Speaker 4 (44:21):
I won't allow Misfits boxing to go down.

Speaker 2 (44:24):
Hey, he ain't lying.

Speaker 1 (44:26):
Hey, hold on again, this is probably a work you
know what I'm saying, This is probably like a storyline.

Speaker 2 (44:32):
Vine we're talking about promoting this company, now, is it?

Speaker 1 (44:35):
KSI's full on responsibility. He has other things to do.
But you know what I'm saying, You know what I mean,
there's a tweet here, There is a story there, you know,
cas I. You know he has the sidemen, he has
a baller league, I think is what he does now.
He has Britain's got talent and obviously prime and.

Speaker 2 (44:54):
He's just doing a lot of stuff.

Speaker 1 (44:55):
So yeah, you know, his attention hasn't been on Misfits
as much as somebody like Mams, who is pretty much
full in with this thing. So even when I know
this is probably a storyline, he's still taking some little
slick shots like, Hey, I'm gonna tell the truth a
little bit here. I'm gonna get my shit off, cass I.
If you watching, just just know that I'm ment it
all right, Just know that I'm meant it. Okay, Mams.

Speaker 11 (45:16):
But I had a board meeting earlier this morning, and KSI,
you are no longer the CEO of Misfits Boxing you
have been relinquished of your duties as CEO.

Speaker 4 (45:29):
We need a new CEO.

Speaker 1 (45:33):
Okay. So MAM's had a meeting of the Misfits board
of which KSI was not invited to, and they have
unanimously approved the removal of KSI as the CEO.

Speaker 2 (45:46):
Fuck out of here. So I tend to look at
this and split it down the middle.

Speaker 1 (45:49):
Yes, this is probably storyline. This is definitely a WWE
type of work. And on the reality side, kiss KSI
done with the company? Probably not? Is it gonna take
more of a backseat role? I think this promo I
was telling us yes, which I find even more interesting
when you look at this in a realistic way. This
probably does mean KSI is going to take steps away
from the company as being maybe the face of it,
as someone that's going to be on the you know,

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day to day involved with it, and he's going to
focus on other things while still having his connection, probably
more behind the scenes though no offense. But does he
bring a ton to Misfits if he's not fighting? Are
you tuning in to watch KSI watch the cards?

Speaker 2 (46:22):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 13 (46:23):
Like?

Speaker 2 (46:24):
What is he?

Speaker 1 (46:24):
Are you tuning into the press conference to see him
sitting in the middle. I'm just saying it's not the
worst idea if he's not going to be fighting, which
to think as of a couple days ago, Leo, you
can find the tweet. I'm pretty sure Ksi said he
still hadn't scheduled hand surgery yet, which I could do
a whole nother video on. But I think it tells
me kaos I not only is not going to be
fighting anytime soon, he may never fight again, because if
he's not gotten hand surgery now to get ready for

(46:46):
a fight in the new year.

Speaker 2 (46:48):
These things, when.

Speaker 1 (46:49):
You tend to put them off and you have other
ventures and other projects that you're passionate about, and more
and more and more you lean into those, Eventually you
will find your way away from the sport.

Speaker 2 (47:00):
You have to be locked in to be boxing, you
just have to.

Speaker 1 (47:02):
And if you're not going to commit to even getting
the hand surgery, which again I'm not saying he should
if he's got these other things he's doing, But if
you're not going to commit to that, if that's not
something that's priority number one or two on your list
of things to do, it tells me not only is
are you not prioritizing that. But that if so facto
means you're not prioritizing fighting, And we knew that kind
of beforehand, but now it kind of reinforces that.

Speaker 2 (47:22):
So I don't mind this. Take it for how you want,
in storyline or not. It's probably a good.

Speaker 1 (47:26):
Thing that they're trying to jump start something in this company.
I like it. But the question now becomes it's storyline.
Who's gonna be the new CEO? I think I know, but.

Speaker 11 (47:36):
A CEO who's going to dedicate that life to this brand.
A CEO who's going to fight for this brand in
the ring out the ring man's is like.

Speaker 2 (47:45):
I'm fighting, it's me.

Speaker 1 (47:49):
He strips off the jacket and now he's got boxing
gloves on. I've been hitting the punch machine.

Speaker 4 (47:54):
It's my time and not CEO is here.

Speaker 11 (47:57):
Oh oh please welcome on uce.

Speaker 1 (48:07):
Oh my god, Oh no, dude.

Speaker 4 (48:12):
Say hello to your new CEO.

Speaker 3 (48:15):
I wouldn't say it was a hostile takeover, but it
was certainly planned.

Speaker 1 (48:19):
And man, oh my god, Andrews A is the in
storyline new CEO of Misfits. All right, before we even
hear the spiel, Actually, should we just let him do
his thing. Let's let's hear Andrew Tate's shpield. Then I'll
give you my thoughts because I think I know where
this is going to go.

Speaker 3 (48:37):
I think, but let's watch Chams and I are going
to be working together to finally put Misfits where it
belongs on the world stage, the largest disruptive force in
sports entertainment history. So, considering that somebody who failed at
their obligations to make this organization as big as it
should have been has been ousted, and I'm the new CEO,

(48:58):
I guess it's my job to make the most entertaining fights.

Speaker 4 (49:01):
Who's the person.

Speaker 3 (49:02):
Who everybody wants to see fight? Who's the guy I
can sign that everybody will tune in to watch fight?

Speaker 7 (49:11):
It's me? Isn't that convenient?

Speaker 4 (49:13):
Quite easy?

Speaker 3 (49:13):
I heard he's a great guy, easy to work with.

Speaker 2 (49:16):
It's me, all right.

Speaker 1 (49:18):
So a couple of things I'm seeing, we're gonna, we're gonna.
I know, I'm gonna let it play a second. But
Number one takes playing a role here clearly as his
way of being introduced to the Misfits fan base.

Speaker 2 (49:28):
I will say this is going to be very controversial.

Speaker 1 (49:32):
It's like, ma'am said at the beginning of this, some
people are not gonna like this at all because of
the allegations, because of the things that surround Andrew Tape,
as far as his reputation, as far as the like
I said, the allegations.

Speaker 2 (49:43):
Against him, with all of the different ones.

Speaker 1 (49:45):
Across his entire life, it seems like and the controversy
that comes with that. Right, there's a lot, a lot
of controversy that comes with Andrew Tape. But he is
also one of the most popular people on the planet
bar none. Andrew Tate, even now in twenty twenty five,
is one of the most talked about people in this
kind of crossover thing space whatever, whether it's politics, whether

(50:08):
it's pop culture, whether it's even fighting. People do forget
that the guy was a somewhat accomplished high level kickboxer.
Now he's not only in the storyline but going to
become CEO whatever that means. But what this really tells
me is that Andrew Tate is gonna have not only
opportunities in the ring, he's gonna probably have some influence
on these Misfits events. I mean, they are going to Dubai.

(50:30):
I don't even think Andrew Tate can compete in the
UK right now, definitely not in the US.

Speaker 2 (50:35):
I could be.

Speaker 1 (50:35):
Wrong, but that's already an influence. And also you hear
how he's taken little shots at KSI. I could be
wrong about this. This could be a way of like
distancing KSI, like I said, from the company early on,
just because he's got so many obligations. But this also
could be potentially if they're looking for a KSI fight,
not soon, but down the line.

Speaker 2 (50:53):
New ceo, old CEO.

Speaker 1 (50:55):
I mean, it's straight out of WWE. It's straight out
of the actual Vince McMahon. Vince gets ousted from the
company and Eric Bischoff takes over, and Eric Bischoff is there,
and he's the new CEO for a couple of months,
for a year, and then all of a sudden, Vince
Music hits here. He comes back to take his company right,
or he has someone like Stone Cold fight on behalf
of him. I don't know, But if we're talking about

(51:16):
like storyline stuff, when he's taking those little subtle shots
at KSI, that's what it.

Speaker 2 (51:20):
Makes me think. But this is wild.

Speaker 1 (51:21):
I mean this having injur Taate be the main character
of Misfits. I don't think I ever saw coming. I
saw him, you know, fighting on Misfits. I mean we
called this a couple of weeks ago. It was pretty
much anne deal, and I thought you would even do
it beforehand. I thought he was gonna fight Jake Paul
in twenty twenty three. But having him be the main character, WHOA.
Let me tell you something, It is going to get
spicy online again.

Speaker 2 (51:43):
It's gonna be good.

Speaker 1 (51:44):
It's gonna be bad, but I guarantee you people will
not be indifferent about injurw Tate joining Misfits. People are
going to have something to say regardless. I haven't even
been online yet, but I can almost guarantee there is
a complete whirlwind of people talking about this because it's
almost unbelievable that he would fight again. But now not
only dad, he has some sort of influence in the company,

(52:04):
potentially allegedly, I don't know, could just be for show,
but still they're putting an event on in Dubai for him.
He's taking the main stage here. Let's keep it going.

Speaker 3 (52:12):
So for that reason, I myself, I'm gonna be fighting
as CEO on the next Misfit show December twentieth. Here
in Dubai out of them, I'm gonna fight. I mean,
it's been a while. I'm gonna train and get in there.
I may as well do it for a belt. And
if it's gonna be for a belt, it may as
well be for the biggest one. So I, as CEO,
order a mandatory title defense for the Heavyweight Misfits belt

(52:35):
between myself Andrew the top g King Kobra.

Speaker 7 (52:39):
Tate against Chase De Moor.

Speaker 3 (52:41):
You don't have a chance and you don't have a choice, Chase,
you have to do it.

Speaker 11 (52:45):
It is.

Speaker 1 (52:45):
That's kind of a nasty line. You don't have a
chance or a choice, Chase, you gotta do it again.
It's Andrew Tait and this is gonna be controversial for sure.
I just I like the idea of bringing in a
CEO that is going to fight and he's picking matchups
for himself. Again, it does remind me of Wwes. He'll
work like, I'm gonna pick a fight. I'm gonna put

(53:07):
myself in the best opportunity and I'm gonna pick whoever
I want to fight, and then at that point they
gotta fight me. Guess why?

Speaker 2 (53:13):
Because I'm the voss around here and you don't have
a say in the matter.

Speaker 1 (53:16):
It's kind of like I said, it's it's Tate, but
it's also the idea behind it is a pretty ingenious
one if you're just falling in love with the storyline,
if you're just taking the storyline for what it is. Again,
in reality, this is Misfits way, in my opinion, of
making a big fight for Tate, of giving attention to
this fight for Tate. And Tate is going to promo
the shit out of it. He's already done a better
promo right here, no joke, and I don't even mean

(53:38):
this to be like, oh, Tate versus KSI, but this
is one take into the camera, and this is better
than anything KSI has ever done when it comes to
promoing his fight, potentially or any other I'm sorry. This
is where Tate's strong suit is and not necessarily where
ksiz is mandatory.

Speaker 3 (53:52):
So I strongly recommend you train. You may be younger
than I am, you may be more active, you may
be bigger, but everybody has a plan until they're punched
in the face. December twentieth, Misfits our largest show ever
produced here in Dubai, and I will be headlining myself.

Speaker 1 (54:17):
Okay, so there it is The Fight before Christmas. Really
nice poster by the way. Okay, Misfits, Misfits Mania, the
Fight before Christmas, headlined by Andrew Tate Chase to More,
December twentieth in Dubai. All right, so we kind of
knew that part, that part, you know, we had done
a video on a couple of weeks ago, knowing that
that was.

Speaker 2 (54:37):
Coming down the line. I did not expect this.

Speaker 1 (54:39):
Part this again, I think storyline version where Andrew Tate
performs a hostile takeover of Misfits. That's a nice wrinkle again,
Andrew Tate very controversial at A lot of people are gonna,
you know, walk on eggshells when it comes to this
one because they just genuinely don't know what to think
about Andrew Tate. Now, this is just part of the
storyline going on here, right because right after this went down,

(55:01):
I saw what I'm about to show you guys now
on Twitter. You see Andrew Tate here Misfits CEO, Combat
Executive Officer.

Speaker 2 (55:08):
I like that, so.

Speaker 1 (55:09):
KSI as soon as this was tweeted, put out these one, two, three, four,
five tweets, and when I tell you, I got flashbacks,
and not in a good way. I was seeing demons
when I saw this Twitter timeline light up with KSI tweets.
It took me all the way back to my situation
with KSI. I'm just lucky this time I wasn't the

(55:29):
one on the other side of the gun, all right,
KSI was taking shots.

Speaker 2 (55:32):
First, he said, lol to this Misfits boxing thing.

Speaker 1 (55:34):
Then he said, this year people are trying to test
me for real, what the actual what is going on?
This is the dumbest thing I've ever seen in my life.
Let's make Andrew Tait, the CEO of Misfits, are you serious?
Then he comes up with you know, legit canby asked?
Then you know f mams. Then he says, this one
bro has been focused on Misfits rather than managing me,
and you decide to do this shit. This is interesting

(55:56):
because do I think KSI is playing into it?

Speaker 2 (55:58):
Yes, a little bit.

Speaker 1 (55:59):
I think that this entire like f MAMS, this year
people are testing me, what's going on?

Speaker 2 (56:04):
Dumbest thing I've ever seen.

Speaker 1 (56:05):
I think those are a little bit of like okay,
like again, because I believe this is more of a
way to take something off KSIs play I think this
is Casi going you know what, what I'm bringing to
Misfits right now isn't necessarily as valuable as what I
can do in other places. But I still want this
thing to grow. I still want it to be a
big thing.

Speaker 2 (56:23):
How do I do that?

Speaker 1 (56:24):
Well, I'm going to take a back seat, ma'ams. You
go full on creative. You do something with this that
doesn't have to involve me, and I will you know,
I'll be over here whatever when you need me.

Speaker 2 (56:37):
I'll be here. That's what I think is happening. But
when I when I see this one right here.

Speaker 1 (56:40):
Bro has been focused on Misfits rather than managing me,
and you decide to do this, I kind of believe
this is a little bit of a shot.

Speaker 2 (56:45):
A little bit because Mams took a little bit of
a shot.

Speaker 1 (56:48):
I think they talked about this behind the scenes, But
I think this is a little bit of a shot
because Casi has mentioned, you know, he hasn't been able
to do music recently that was out of.

Speaker 2 (56:55):
His control, something like that.

Speaker 1 (56:56):
And then you know, obviously he can't fight right now
and he's just doing videos. He's clearly frustrated about something.

Speaker 2 (57:02):
I don't know what it is.

Speaker 1 (57:03):
I don't know if it's a position he's in, if
it's waiting whatever he needs to be doing. But he's
clearly hinted at and you know, we'll see if we
can find the tweets. He's clearly hinted that he's been
frustrated this year, that this year has not gone well
for him, that he can't seem to, you know, get
it right this year, but next year is going to
be as you So there's something going on that I
don't know if this is about, if it's you know,

(57:23):
using that to build this big storyline. I have a
feeling that everybody's kind of in on this and they're
all playing nice behind the scenes, but maybe not really in.

Speaker 2 (57:31):
Front of the crowd because we're trying to build a
storyline here.

Speaker 1 (57:33):
But that storyline I think again, I could be wrong
if KSI does and I'm saying right now, if I'm
putting percentages out there, I think twenty percent chance KSI
ever fights again, twenty to thirty based on the fact
that he's not got the hand surgery, based on the
fact that he's not really pressing to get the hand surgery,
based on this kind of move which I think is
more window dressing to kind of oust KSI from being
the face of the company and then having someone step

(57:57):
in there. I don't think you'll box again unless he
gets it, you know, he gets the hand surgery and
starts to feel better and and it works out.

Speaker 2 (58:03):
But there's so many factors. But if he was, they're
leaving the door.

Speaker 1 (58:06):
Open for this potential old KSI CEO taking back his company.
They're leaving the door open for that. I think. Now,
let's take a look at some of these interview clips
from Andrew T talking about the entire situation.

Speaker 2 (58:21):
So let's let's let's hear this.

Speaker 13 (58:22):
Why you just miss his bucks thing?

Speaker 3 (58:24):
Well, cass Ie tweeted something that annoyed me about three
years ago. So long story short, I took his company
from him, and considering I'm the largest name on the planet.
If I'm going to fight on an organization, why not
fight in an organization I own a percentage of? It
makes a lot of business sense. I also intend on.

Speaker 1 (58:39):
Does he actually okay, I still think it's to work,
But did they actually give him a percentage of the company?

Speaker 2 (58:45):
Did they really do it?

Speaker 1 (58:46):
I would have been shocked had he not said that specifically,
but I don't know. Andrew cut a promo like it
was nothing, so he could be a fantastic worker. There's
no way they gave him an actual percentage of the
company though, right I'm maybe I don't know anymore. I
genuinely have no idea. The only thing I can remember
from Kasi and Andrew Tate three years ago obviously the
sexual assault allegations that rotate.

Speaker 2 (59:07):
I think it's maybe still going through.

Speaker 1 (59:09):
I don't even actually know where those cases are or
what the details are there, but I want to say
that Tate got banned, or maybe he got arrested at
that point and he was in prison, or he was
going to prison, and KSI had tweeted something like karma
or like I don't remember, it was something around that,
I'm pretty sure, or like, you know, Tate getting ratioed
by Greta Thumberg. I'm not exactly sure, but it was

(59:29):
something super personal at Tait at the time, and maybe
that's why he's held this grudge again.

Speaker 2 (59:35):
It could be storyline.

Speaker 1 (59:36):
It probably is, but I'm trying to just think back
of what he would even be talking about.

Speaker 3 (59:39):
I think there's a lot of fantastic names on Misfits.
There's a lot of people who are already doing fantastically well,
and they can do even better. I think we can
become even bigger as an ORG. My intention is to
make the ORG a lot bigger than it is and
make sure everybody gets paid even more money.

Speaker 7 (59:51):
So why not.

Speaker 3 (59:52):
I mean, I'm approaching this as a businessman. I'm approaching
this as a fighter. I see the potential in the
future of this. I think that, you know, celebrities fighting
or influencers fighting just seems to keep growing. So Misfits
have already got a fantastic platform. They're already in a
great place, and I think with my help, we can
take it to the next level.

Speaker 2 (01:00:10):
I'm very interested.

Speaker 1 (01:00:11):
Again, he's talking like he legitimately wants to help out
behind the scenes as well.

Speaker 2 (01:00:16):
I'm so interested. I have to know, Like, I have
to know if this is real. I don't know. If
I gotta interview Maams, if I gotta interview Andrew fucking.

Speaker 1 (01:00:21):
Tate, I don't know, but I have to know how
legit is this is he actually a part of Misfits, Guys,
I might have to go and interview KSI I know
this is like it's gonna seem like me trying to
like whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:00:32):
But I think I need to know what is this?
Is this real?

Speaker 1 (01:00:36):
I want to sit down with all three of them
and figure this out, maybe not at the same time,
but all three in separate interviews.

Speaker 2 (01:00:41):
You guys, let me know if you'd want to see
that is this? How is this? How?

Speaker 1 (01:00:44):
Kasai and I finally wap it up because I genuinely
don't know what's happening. Andrew is talking like he is
legitimately the CEO. My head wants to me to go,
no ways, you're getting worked.

Speaker 2 (01:00:54):
Don't fall for this.

Speaker 1 (01:00:56):
But then again, he's talking about like the stuff he
actually wants to do behind the scenes here, So odd.

Speaker 12 (01:01:00):
Let's talk about this then you fight December twentieth. But
surely it's not just a one time thing, right, Surely
you've got a planning of your mind that you want
to have.

Speaker 13 (01:01:08):
Free for five fights. What's on the old mindset here?

Speaker 3 (01:01:11):
How many Well, there's a lot of people who need
punching in the face. And this is the rule we
currently live in, you know, And I know there's a
long long list of people, and no matter how well
I perform on the night, there's gonna be people with
an opinion who said, ah, you know, Chase is an
experiencing off, or Andrew didn't look that good, or he
looked sloppy or whatever. There's always gonna be somebody with
something to say. There's a lot of people who've been

(01:01:32):
saying my name already, and I'm sure they're gonna pop
up trying to catch a pay day because I'm the
biggest pay day in sports entertainment today. There's no doubt
about that. Darren Till's tried to already catch a.

Speaker 7 (01:01:41):
Pay day off my name.

Speaker 3 (01:01:43):
But you know, it's a It's a beautiful world, and
there's plenty of targets. There's plenty of people who genuinely
deserve to deserve to feel damaged.

Speaker 13 (01:01:50):
And who are these targets? You can mention?

Speaker 3 (01:01:53):
I'm capable of dishing out damage. God has blessed me
with the capability to hurt other people, and a lot
of people deserve to be hurt. So we're gonna see
what happens after the twentieth. We're gonna see what date
and what person deserves to feel the wrath of Andrew Tate.
And if I have to hurt somebody, I'll hurt somebody
because I'm a professional.

Speaker 7 (01:02:08):
That's what I'm paid to do.

Speaker 1 (01:02:09):
Okay, So the only name mentioned there is dare Until.
But I have a feeling I just I predict these things.
I think that depending on what happens with not only
Tate on December twentieth, we have Jake, Paul Gervonte, Tank
Davis in three weeks now maybe less.

Speaker 12 (01:02:25):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:02:26):
Something just tells me that in twenty twenty six there's
gonna be opportunities for Jake.

Speaker 2 (01:02:30):
To move around and do what he wants.

Speaker 1 (01:02:33):
Obviously, Tate and Jake were years ago supposed to face
off and have a little brew haha.

Speaker 2 (01:02:38):
Right, do you guys.

Speaker 1 (01:02:38):
Remember and Dubai. I was there when they faced off.
It was for Deggie and Floyd's cart.

Speaker 2 (01:02:42):
It was wild.

Speaker 1 (01:02:42):
There's something more to this than just Chase dea Moore.
You have to know that there's something Chase de Moore
than this behind the scenes planned for Tate. And again,
you have to get through the first one, and Chase
has fair play to him gotten better over.

Speaker 2 (01:02:55):
Time, but there does seem to be a little bit
more behind you.

Speaker 1 (01:02:59):
Here's Andrew Tate and his brother Tristan Tate on potentially
tag team boxing.

Speaker 12 (01:03:02):
At this Would you guys ever consider doing a tag team?
Is that something you would ever be tempted to? To Brothers,
it would be very historic, it'd be historic.

Speaker 7 (01:03:10):
Yeah, we're open to the idea. Why not?

Speaker 13 (01:03:12):
Are you opened to that, Tristan?

Speaker 2 (01:03:13):
It would be very interesting to do.

Speaker 3 (01:03:14):
I don't think tag team works in real sports though,
sure in WWE it works, But I don't think in
a real fight sport there would be any system where
a tag team would be.

Speaker 13 (01:03:24):
Feed missus boxing does tag team boxing?

Speaker 3 (01:03:26):
Does it really work?

Speaker 2 (01:03:28):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (01:03:29):
Well, you're the CEO, Andrew, you.

Speaker 13 (01:03:30):
Tell me, would you want to make that happen?

Speaker 1 (01:03:32):
Runn I'm the CEO.

Speaker 4 (01:03:33):
Maybe, yeah, let's do it.

Speaker 3 (01:03:34):
Let's let's find the right opponents after December twentieth.

Speaker 7 (01:03:37):
That's my number one focus. When that's not I'm open
to anything.

Speaker 12 (01:03:39):
The Pool brothers, Logan Pool and Jake Pool versus Andrew
Tate and Tristan Tate.

Speaker 3 (01:03:44):
You know, Logan's actually uh sorry, Jake's actually a friend
of mine. I've got to know him very very well.
I'm not afraid of the Paul Brothers at all. And
you know, if it came down to Andrew Tate and
Tristan Tate versus Jake Paul and Logan pol The Tates
win every single time in every single way.

Speaker 1 (01:04:01):
I don't know. I don't know about that, but I
tell you I would watch it. I would absolutely watch it.
That'd be some pretty entertaining stuff. But okay, let's talk
about it this way. What do I think about this
entire thing? Number One, I do think this is storyline.
I think this is Mams trying to inject life into
Misfits boxing. I think it's a very risky play based
on how the audience reacts to Andrew Tait, who we

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know is very controversial, who we know has a lot
of allegations. We know is someone that everyone is going
to have a reaction to, good or bad. And that
is what you're hoping for, that this is going to
cause a wavelength, the reaction, the sonic boom through the Internet.
And I think it will, right, especially if Andrew Tate wins.
He still has to win, right, He's gonna do the promo.
He's talking like he's actually part of this, like he
actually has a stake in Misfits.

Speaker 2 (01:04:44):
I want to get to the bottom of that. That's
what I want to know more about not the whole CEO.

Speaker 1 (01:04:48):
Like, yes, that's a fun storyline, and I'm all in
with the story.

Speaker 2 (01:04:51):
I'm ready to see where they take it.

Speaker 1 (01:04:53):
I'm gonna I want to watch that as a fan,
but I want to know for real, like what is
the play here? I want to interview KSI. I want
to interview MAM's and and see what is really going
on here. But on that note, you still need to
go out and win for this whole experiment to work
and not blow up in your face.

Speaker 2 (01:05:07):
Tate has to win versus Chase. The more who I listen.

Speaker 1 (01:05:11):
I know Chase hasn't been fighting long and he's not
necessarily the most technical, but he's a big dude, He's strong, powerful.
He touched you with the right hand, it's gonna hurt you, right,
So you still have to win the fight. But oh man,
this is gonna be controversial. This is gonna be interesting
to see the reaction. And I'm gonna start right here
with you guys, what do you think of this? Because
I'm still trying to wrap my head around it. Not

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Tate fighting, but this storyline of Tate coming into the
company KSI going off on Twitter, I think again, that's
more storyline, but there might be some real feelings behind it,
just like MAM's with the dripped out cowboy gear with
the one shots KSI's way again. Does this mean they're
gonna try to have Ksi sit out come back for
a big time fight in the future. Are they gonna
set Andrew up for a big time fight potentially if

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he's going to get past Chase to more against people
from outside of the company. I wonder what does this
mean for Misfits relationship with The Zone because I know
his Zone has a lot of influence as to who
they let on their platform. And Andrew Tate again massively controversial,
has been banned off a lot of platforms. Will he
be allowed to be on this? Is this Misfits going
in a different I don't know. I'm just wondering how

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long is left on that deal now? I think it
was a five year deal or we we're still two
years left in it, so I don't know. But that's
another thing to consider, like how where is this gonna air?
I didn't see a the Zone logo anywhere in this trailer,
which I'm not saying that that means anything, but does it?

Speaker 2 (01:06:26):
I don't know. You guys. Let me know though as
well down below, what do you think of this?

Speaker 1 (01:06:30):
Andrews a is coming to Misfits, He's taken over by Storm.

Speaker 2 (01:06:35):
The new CEO KSIs pissed.

Speaker 1 (01:06:37):
He's gone apparently allegedly and it's probably more storyline than
it is real. But what's really going on? That's what
I want to know. What is really going on behind
the scenes. I need to get to the bottom of
this thing, and I think I'm gonna try to do it.
You guys, let me know what you think. What happens
on December twentieth. Who else is on the car? Don't
have those answers yet, but I know this is gonna
be interesting as far as how you guys react and

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what the next steps are.

Speaker 2 (01:06:59):
I guess.

Speaker 1 (01:07:00):
Now welcome back to the Way kind of represented by
The Ring magazine, and today we have breaking news. Jake,
Paul Jervonte, Tang Davis. The fight is in jeopardy and
it's for a reason that I think you all could
believe but maybe can't believe, is happening again. This fight
is only two and a half weeks from going on.
November fourteenth is the date we are supposed to think

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that Jake Paul and Dravonta Davis are going to be
fighting on Netflix.

Speaker 2 (01:07:25):
But ah, not so fast, my friend.

Speaker 1 (01:07:27):
There's another yes, I said, another domestic abuse allegation against
Servante Davis, and that may either destroy postpone change the
entire event. This is happening in real time, so we
have to talk about it. What is going on with
the Jake Paul Dravonte Davis fight?

Speaker 2 (01:07:45):
The breakdown? Let's go number one.

Speaker 1 (01:07:50):
First off, I just want to say I was starting
to get more into this fight as we got closer
to it. I've seen videos of Jake Paul training with
the likes of Ray Fod, Montana, Love Schakor Stephens and
others in his camp.

Speaker 2 (01:08:01):
I saw a picture, no video.

Speaker 1 (01:08:03):
I would love to see the video of Jake Paul
sparring Chaquor Stevenson. I want to know what's going on
down there in Puerto Rico. I've told you guys this
many times. Jake takes these fights very very seriously, and
I just thought, Okay, this is gonna get a little
more interesting than I previously thought. I thought it would
be a bit of a mismatch, a bit of a
boxing experience to Jervonte Davis, Jake bringing the size and power,

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and we're gonna get one of these stalemates where no
one wants to take a real risk and both guys
are gonna get paid. Turns out no guy may get paid,
or Javonte Davis might be kicked off the card because
we have a new not champion, a new domestic violence.

Speaker 2 (01:08:39):
Abuse allegation against Javonte Davis.

Speaker 1 (01:08:42):
There's been a lot of allegations against Tank and some
of those have been dropped that others have not really
been pursued, and you don't really know what's what behind
the scenes with people.

Speaker 2 (01:08:50):
But when things like this happen over and over.

Speaker 1 (01:08:52):
I think this is his fourth or maybe fifth allegation
of domestic abuse, you kind of start to have to
look at the person that's being accused of such, go
why do you keep ending up in these situations? And
the way it's described, We've even seen Tank do some
of the things already on camera. But let's get into
this thing and then we'll just go right into the
report from Chris Mannix.

Speaker 2 (01:09:12):
Here shout Mannix.

Speaker 1 (01:09:13):
Obviously, you guys know him as a commentator with his
own covers boxing, covers basketball as well for SI Chris
Mannix on Twitter says Netflix and reps for Jake Paul
have been exploring potential replacements for Shervonte Davis. Sources familiar
with the situation told SI now Paul Davis, scheduled for
November fourteenth, is in limbo after new allegations of domestic

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violence against s Gervonte Davis.

Speaker 2 (01:09:37):
I was in the car. I didn't know if this
was real, but I had seen a report and this
came out, I think on October.

Speaker 1 (01:09:43):
It came out a couple days ago, but it was
from October twenty seven, and there was a civil suit
over domestic allegations just two weeks ahead of this fight.
This is from Andreas Hale, our guy over at ESPN
dot com. He essentially wrote the article on it and
went into details. So let's take a read. Geronte tank
Davis has once again found himself in legal trouble just

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two weeks before his exhibition fight. And yes, it was
going to be an exhibition that it was billed as
a exhibition with you know, a winner end loser.

Speaker 2 (01:10:11):
But let's be honest about it.

Speaker 1 (01:10:13):
Two guys, massively different ways, massively different experience. It was
gonna be an exhibition. On November fourteenth, a new civil
lawsuit filed in Miami Dade County has put the WBA
lightweight champion in hot water over another alleged domestic encident.
I'm not going to cast dispersions about the differences between
the civil and criminal here. I'm not sure why if
there was an actual domestic abuse case, why there aren't

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being criminal charges filed. Maybe this is a better way
of going about it, but I don't really know the
ins and outs of why you do one versus the other.
I mean, a criminal charge would obviously be more severe
and would be you know, getting the actual criminal punishment
that Tank deserves for if the domestic abuse allegations are true.
I know there's been allegations and criminal allegations in the

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past that haven't necessarily worked out or whatever have the
case is. But this one is a civil lawsuit, so
not a criminal charge we're talking about here, but a
civil lawsuit. And according to the lawsuit acquired by ESPN,
Davis is accused by ex girlfriend Courtney Rozzell of battery,
aggravated battery, false imprisonment, kidnapping, an intentional infliction of emotional distress.

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Now kidnapping, aggravated battery, false imprisonment. I'm pretty sure those
get into fellony charges should they have been criminal. But
we're talking about a civil lawsuit here, which again I'm
a little confused on why that part is happening. But
as we read here, this lawsuit comes two months after
Davis's previous domestic violence case was dropped by an ex
girlfriend and mother of two of the boxer's three children.

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So this is two months after another allegation was dropped,
so there wasn't any charge or anything there. But Tank
seems to find himself in these situations, or you know,
be the perpetrator potentially in some of these situations, over.

Speaker 2 (01:11:49):
And over and over.

Speaker 1 (01:11:50):
And as much as I love Tank as a boxer,
as much as I think he's one of the most
talented boxers, one of the most skilled guys in the
in the sport itself, he is a massive, massive screw up.
I mean unbelievably a massive screw up for the guy
with his amount of talent, with this amount of popularity
and eyeballs that drift to him in this sport, a
true potential star in this sport.

Speaker 2 (01:12:11):
To have these types of issues over and over.

Speaker 1 (01:12:14):
When you talk about change in your life and not
being a violent person anymore and not wanting to box
and raise your kids and do this and again, I'm
not even trying to do the personal stuff. But how
do you keep finding yourselves in these situations? After an
allegation earlier this year and now another one. You know,
if it was one or two, I could start to go, okay, well,
some people are plotting on him whatever, you know, that
can happen, But this is just too much of a coincidence.

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When things are happening over and over and over again,
he is just a complete screw up. You get fifty
million dollars on the line and potentially we're not even
gonna see the fight now. I don't know what's gonna happen.
No official reports on what's gonna go down with this fight.
Is tanks on the card or not, we don't know.
But this is just unbelievable.

Speaker 2 (01:12:50):
Man. I never can understand when athletes do this stuff.
We continue.

Speaker 1 (01:12:53):
ESPN also confirmed with one of the woman's attorneys that
a report was filed on Tuesday with the Miami Gardens
Police Department. Messages left with the department were not immediately returned.
To ESPN, So they have filed a report which would
be you know, escalated to potentially if evidence was found
by Miami Gardens Police Department, that would probably be elevated
to potential investigation of the said aggravated battery, false imprisonment, kidnapping.

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So they've not only filed this civil suit, but they
also are pursuing criminal investigation at least, and that's up
to the police department, So I guess we'll see there.
According to the complaint, now here's where it gets brutal.
Here's where I look at this entire thing, because I've
read this lawsuit, or at least part of it to
know that it gets really really ugly here. And this
is where I say that this isn't just a happenstance thing,

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at least in my opinion, because we've seen some of
the similar qualities that are being alleged in this lawsuit
that Tank has shown on camera before. I think that
a celebrity basketball game years ago. But let's read this.
According to the complaint, Davis allegedly stormed into two SI's
Miami Gentlemen's Club, where Roszell worked as a VIP cocktail
server in the early hours of Monday and attacked her

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in a back room of a club that did not
have camera. She says Davis dragged her through a stairwell, kitchen,
and the back exit before physically assaulting.

Speaker 2 (01:14:10):
Her in a parking garage.

Speaker 1 (01:14:12):
Now I don't even know if I can show this
video on YouTube, but there is a video.

Speaker 2 (01:14:15):
I don't remember the year, but a girl whoever.

Speaker 1 (01:14:18):
I think Jervonte was seeing at the time, was at
a celebrity basketball game. He walks directly up to where
she is sitting and snatches her up and drags her
out of this basketball gym in a similar way that's
being described. He and usually when you have someone that
in this case is alleged or has committed a crime
that continues to be put in that same position, they
usually act the same way if they have not learned

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from said mistake or gotten help for said issues, or
just that same person. Now, again, I'm not trying to
allege this or that I don't know the situation, but
that sounds a lot like what we've seen Jervonte do,
at least the dragging of someone out of a venue,
a female out of a venue aggressively with physical intent
to harm we've seen that before. This is can't look
at this situation and go, yeah, she's probably lying. Yeah,

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you know, this is probably not what she's saying. It
is we've seen on camera something really similar. And this
is not the first or second time he has been
accused of domestic violence.

Speaker 2 (01:15:11):
We've seen it one, two, three, four.

Speaker 1 (01:15:14):
This would be the fifth time I think that we've
seen this for Geronte Davis. Does that sound like a
coincidence to anybody? Rosell said she was in a five
month relationship with Davis prior to the incident, and cited
multiple instances of domestic abuse, violence, and threats made by
the fighter concerning her safety and well being.

Speaker 2 (01:15:29):
Rossell said in the lawsuit.

Speaker 1 (01:15:31):
That there were quote at least four previous incidents in
which Davis quote physically assaulted and choked her. On two occasions,
she said, Davis threatened to kill her. I mean, this
is just awful again allegations. I can't prove any of
this to be true, but if it is, this is
awful behavior. This is complete and utter disregard for the
position he's in for another human's life, for the position

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of just any relationship, any family, nothing, no thought about it,
just a bad, awful person and someone that if this
is true and all these things are true, should be
locked up. You can't have people committing domestic violence over
and over and over and over and act like things
are going to change because they're a star actor.

Speaker 2 (01:16:12):
Can't have But like, what lesson does that teach it
for people that are going to say, well, how do.

Speaker 1 (01:16:16):
You potentially postpone or want to change an event over
a civil lawsuit? This is why when you open the
civil lawsuit, when you look at companies like a Netflix
or an MVP, or partners or brands or sponsors that
want to be involved with this type of event, do
you think they're going to be okay with a guy
that repeatedly not in the past, because Mike Dyson had

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allegations and ended up being charged for very severe I mean,
we'll just say it was rape back in his day
and he went to prison for this recent When you're
doing something like that or alleged to be doing something
like that, and you have a history of those allegations
and we have a history of seeing the physical just
call it what it is, battery that you can put
on females outside of the ring. I don't think that's
something that Netflix is wanting to be a part of

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at that point. And I think that even Jake, who
is and not even really clim it, but being like
e're domestic abuser on stage too, Gravonte Davis like talking
about putting his hands on women. I don't know if
Jake wants to be involved with somebody like that. Yes,
Tank is a massive star in boxing for sure. And
again I can't sit here and act like this as
fact because I don't know. And I can't sit here
and go, oh, well, you know, lock him away and
throw away the key. I can't do that either because

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I don't know. But if this turns out to be true,
then will it have been a great look for Netflix
to have it? Would it have been a great look
for Jake to have? Do they believe he would even
make it to the fight? Our criminal charges coming like,
that's another thing we're not talking about. Are criminal charges
about to be levied, which is why they're starting to
look for potential replacements. We have documented, apparently evidence or
at least testimony from Rozell here the first of the incidents,

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talking about the two occasions where she alleged Davis said
he was going to kill her.

Speaker 2 (01:17:45):
I guess here's one.

Speaker 1 (01:17:46):
Of the first incidents that took place on September second,
when Davis allegedly threatened to kill Rozell for not responding
to his calls and text messages. A second incident took
place on September twenty third this year, and she says
Davis accused her of infidelity and texted I'll kill you.
Later that day, Davis allegedly physically assaulted Rozell, choking her
in public at Plaia Miami, a restaurant in the Lincoln

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Road shopping district. If someone is willing to physically abuse
another person in public again alleged, I don't know. I
don't know if cameras got this, I don't know. We've
seen him do it before in public around people. What
in God's name is going on when people can't when
there is no thread of someone stopping you, calling the police, eyewitness,
anything else. If Davonte is that comfortable allegedly potentially assaulting

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this female and others in public, what's happening when they're
behind the closed door? And to me again, when I
read some of these statements, it makes it more plausible
that the things that are being said about him that
happen in public, and maybe not public, are actually.

Speaker 2 (01:18:45):
Happened because he's so brazen about it, we continue.

Speaker 1 (01:18:48):
The suit says that Davis sent Rossall a text message
after this week's incident, stating quote, I'm on my way
to the house, which Rozell interpreted as the boxer heading
to her home to continue assaulting her. Lawsuit says that
Rosal is currently suffering from PTSD anxiety and extreme fear,
while saying that she is living with others because she
no longer feels safe alone and is actively seeking therapeutic

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treatment to address the severe emotional and physical harm caused
by Davis. The attorneys are demanding compensatory and punitive damages along.

Speaker 2 (01:19:16):
With a request for jury trial.

Speaker 1 (01:19:18):
Davis has had numerous run ins with the law over
the years, including chargers related to domestic violence, fleeing the
scene of a car accident. Several of his cases have
been dropped, but he was sentenced to a nine to
day house arrest in three years probation for a twenty
twenty three hit and run case in Baltimore. ESPN reach
out to representatives for Davis have yet to respond. ESPN
also reached out to representative for Jake Paul's Most Viable

(01:19:38):
Promotions to see if this lawsuit woul affect the status
of Paul Davis at the Cassea Center in Miami on
November fourteenth. Most Viable Promotions did not respond to the
request for comments. So that is where we leave that
part of the store. Now, if you're asking questions on
why would they cancel this event purely based off an allegation,
I kind of already talked about it. If you're Netflix,

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if you're some of the sponsors involved with this event,
if your MVP and Nikisa and Jake, if this thing,
if you have more information about it, then we the
public do now. And I don't know if that's the
case or if they know that chargers potentially are coming.

Speaker 2 (01:20:10):
You have two weeks to make a decision.

Speaker 1 (01:20:11):
We just learned in the last fight that Jake had
against Julio Sayser Chives Junior, they arrested chiv As the
day after Jake fought, meaning, had the LAPD or whoever
ICE I think is actually who had gotten to him.
Had ICE agents found Julio Sayser Chives Junior a day earlier,
the fight would have been canceled, they deported him.

Speaker 2 (01:20:32):
They said they didn't know about it.

Speaker 1 (01:20:33):
I don't know if that's the case, but if they
took Julio seser chib As away a day before the event,
would the event even happen? And MVP has had I
don't want to say had a history, but they had
a misfortune. I will say Jake has adds a lot
of misfortunes around his events. Tommy Fury pulling out two
weeks ahead of time, Tommy Fury canceling an entire event
set in New York, short notice Tyron Woodley, short notice

(01:20:54):
other fights as well, short notice Mike Perry after the
the Mike Tyson situation happened. So they've had to kind
of change gears on the run multiple times before, and
this is maybe another instance of that. And it's one
of those questions that I think would probably be better answered,
like do you want to keep the event on the
date November fourteenth and you want to move it back?

Speaker 2 (01:21:11):
Do you want to wait and see.

Speaker 1 (01:21:12):
What happens with the legal process or do you want
to seek out other opponents which looks like, again, according
to Chris Mannix, that's what they want to do.

Speaker 2 (01:21:18):
They're going to seek out other opponents.

Speaker 1 (01:21:20):
Now, what that tells me is if they're looking already,
then they're moving past to Jervonte Davis fight. That's what
it tells me. And I don't know that that's the case.
I don't have any sources, but there wouldn't be a
need to look for other potential opponents if you were
confident that Davante was either going to make the walk,
or that you were confident in the decision to keep
him in the main event, to keep him for this event,

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and for the powers that be, Netflix, MVP sponsors, whoever,
that they would be confident still running this event if
he was on the The fact that they're already looking
tells me the red button has been hit or you know,
the hand is hovering over it. Right now, you get
into the question of who is going to be a
replacement opponent for Jake right now? And the answers would
be in my mind on short notice if it were me,

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and this would be a bitter pill of swallow. And
I don't know that Netflix would want to do this,
and I don't know really how that works. I would
postpone the event, I'd move it to January. I'd find
someone else to January February whatever. I'd find someone else
in a quick turnaround time to give him eight weeks
to train, twelve weeks to train, whatever. A Tommy Fury,
by the way, would be my option if it were me. Again,
There's probably so much more going on behind the scenes

(01:22:24):
that I don't know, But if it were me, Tommy
Fury would be the guy I'm calling, and I'm giving
him eight to twelve weeks to get ready, and we're
running it right, and it's a massive expense and everyone's
gonna lose money and it's gonna be a problem. But
I don't know who you get in two weeks. Anthony
Joshua is not fighting on Netflix. He is exclusive to
his own Francis in Ghanu. I really don't know. Someone
mentioned Francis and Ganhu. I don't know how that would work.

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Carl Frotch could be an option. Carl Frotch would be,
you know, a decent enough name for them to get
for Netflix, have a bit of the UK behind it. Again,
you're talking about eight weeks now a little more than that,
So how quickly could you turn that around?

Speaker 2 (01:22:57):
I would have said Andrew.

Speaker 1 (01:22:58):
Tate, but Andrew Tate looks like he's locked up December,
So you can't really do that, and you wouldn't be
able to do.

Speaker 2 (01:23:02):
It in the US. That's a no go.

Speaker 1 (01:23:05):
You know, you could try to throw as much money
as possible that a guy like Ksi and do that.
I mean, people would go crazy for that. I don't
think Ksi can fight right now though, because of the
hand and he needs surgery. I mean, I'm running through
the list here, guys, you know what I mean? Like,
who else is there? I can't come up with the
name worthy of Netflix available right now?

Speaker 2 (01:23:21):
Jorge Mazavi it all.

Speaker 1 (01:23:23):
Maybe Innate Diaz rematch, Yeah, I can't think of anyone.

Speaker 2 (01:23:27):
Who else is there right now?

Speaker 1 (01:23:28):
You built this whole thing around Davante and then the
plan was to go into twenty twenty six and think
about Ksi or Anthony Joshua or you know wherever else
you go from there.

Speaker 2 (01:23:38):
But now this throws a massive branch.

Speaker 1 (01:23:40):
And by the way, this is twice now that Jervonte
Davis has kind of been the reason for them not
being able.

Speaker 2 (01:23:45):
To schedule this event.

Speaker 1 (01:23:45):
Because Jervonte goes out and has the Stinker against Lamont Roach.

Speaker 2 (01:23:49):
Roach fought really well I thought won the fight. They
can't do that. They have to wait a little longer.

Speaker 1 (01:23:54):
Jake goes and fights Julio Seer Chavez, and now they're
trying to do this. But man, I almost feel bad
for I do, because this isn't his fault. He's done
everything he should do for this, as he kind of
always does, and the other side, once again.

Speaker 2 (01:24:08):
Is a complete screw up.

Speaker 1 (01:24:09):
And by the way, I want to say this, people
were talking about ticket sales, and while ticket sales, at
least from my perspective, I don't have the numbers, behind
the scenes, they don't look good. They do not look good.
And that was another part of this. They moved the
fight from Georgia. Georgia didn't want any part of it.
They're in Miami. Ticket sales didn't look great so far. Again,
maybe you have a massive walk up fight week, but
I'd heard there was a lot left, and you know,

(01:24:29):
if you go on some of these resellers, that looks
like there's a lot of seats left. Do I think
that would be the reason that somehow this article would
come out now and these talks would come out now,
I don't think so. It seems like again, not even
seems like the allegation is from the night of October
twenty seven. This just happens to be awful timing. I
think it's a massive coincidence. I really do, And I
don't think ticket sales are like a driving factor in this.
They were bad, or at least from what I was seeing,

(01:24:51):
they were bad, but I don't think they didn't have
anything to do with this. They were probably hoping for
and planning for a massive close during these last two
weeks and then the walk up fight nights to be better,
and it probably would have been. It probably would have
been better. I mean, they're two massive stars, so those
ticket sales probably would have picked up and I think
would have done relatively well or pretty well into fight week.
But the build for this has been very slow. It's

(01:25:13):
been very start stop. People don't know when the fight's been,
what place the fight's going to be in, they're doing
different venues and all that, and then you have this,
which again I think is a coincidence.

Speaker 2 (01:25:22):
And it's all again.

Speaker 1 (01:25:24):
The allegations coming out when they happen is one thing,
but doing it again allegedly, if you're Gervonte Davis on
the October twenty seven, doing it again, being put in
this position and failing again. He is an unbelievably bad
screw up as an individual. If all this is true,
and the more that things line up with the things

(01:25:44):
that are being said about him and previous video altercations
that we have, and how dark and sadistic I'm going
to kill you, aggravated battery, kidnap it, false imprisonment, keeping
people held hostage.

Speaker 2 (01:25:58):
This is a bad dude. I don't mean in the
sense of like he's the best fight or whatever. I
mean he's a bad person. If this is what's going down.

Speaker 1 (01:26:04):
And again, it's not just one allegation, it's not just
two allegations. This is five allegation, most of which sure
have been dropped. But how many more are going to
keep happening with the same pattern.

Speaker 2 (01:26:13):
Of behavior over and over.

Speaker 1 (01:26:16):
Before someone says enough is enough? And maybe that's what's
happening here. If that's what happens, By the way, that's
a hard decision to make because you're basically throwing away
your event. But kudos to the honestly, kudos to Jake Nikisa,
Netflix whoever. If they find out that this stuff is true,
if they have more information, than we do. And I'm
not saying it is we find out it's all allegations
involves I've seen fighters fight while finding allegations fighting charges.

(01:26:36):
I've seen that happen before athletes in other sports as well.
But if they find out this is true, they have
more information and they decide we can't allow this to
be on our platform. Kudos to them because that's the
right move. Again, it's that gray area between what's the
allegation and what's the truth behind it. But that's where
we're at right now. It's a civil suit as of
right now. Apparently the plaintiff or you know, the victim,

(01:26:58):
is going to pursue criminal charges as well, But as
of right now, according to Chris mannis over at SI
because of the domestic abuse allegations from October twenty seventh,
just a couple of days ago. Gavonte Davis is now
being sued by his ex girlfriend for battery, aggravated battery,
false imprisonment, kidnapping, and intentional infliction of emotional damage, and

(01:27:19):
according to Chris mannis the event runners for Netflix Paul
versus Davis are looking for potential replacements for this fight.
They don't have answers yet, we don't even have any
names yet, we have no idea what's happening yet.

Speaker 2 (01:27:31):
All we know is that this event is in serious jeopardy.

Speaker 1 (01:27:34):
And I'm taking this super serious because when someone like
Mannix writes it, he's not blowing smoke up your ass.
He is telling you the truth, so you better listen.
I don't know what's gonna happen with this, but I
know what you guys.

Speaker 2 (01:27:44):
Are gonna say. Y'all probably want this thing canceled. I
just feel like I feel like it's that sucks for
Jake Is.

Speaker 1 (01:27:49):
As much as maybe people didn't want to see the fight,
he did everything he was supposed to do.

Speaker 2 (01:27:53):
What do they do next? Can they find a replacement?
Who would it be?

Speaker 1 (01:27:56):
I don't have those answers, and I have no idea
what happens, but I guess we'll find out

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