Nick Wright reacts to Shedeur Sanders' disappointing preseason performance against the Los Angeles Rams and the impact it had on his competition for the Cleveland Browns' backup QB role with Dillon Gabriel. Later, Nick shares his win total predictions for the AFC North including why he believes Joe Burrow, Ja'Marr Chase, and the Cincinnati Bengals will miss the playoffs for a third straight year... and this time fire Zac Taylor because of it. Lastly, Nick goes through several NFL teams revealing his favorite bets to make or miss the NFL Playoffs. #Volume
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the Best of the Week for What's Right
with Nick Right the best takes and moments from this
week on the show. Enjoy.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Yeah, So, Chador's final preseason game was a little shaky.
He threw for fourteen total yards, took five sacks, and
now Chador fans are coming out and saying that the
team and Kevin Stefanski are conspiring against it. But also
Kenny Pickett just got cut, so you know, if the
landscape changed up a little, Pickett traded to the Raiders traded,
(00:28):
so the landscape white have changed up over there a
little bit. What's the situation looking like for Shadur All.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Right, well, listen, he was he started camp fourth string,
he stayed fourth string. He's now third string because one
of the strings is on the Raiders. And I'm going
to give you the very sober analysis of this. Then
we're gonna talk bigger picture of it, and then honestly,
we are not going to talk about the Cleveland Browns
(00:54):
and the quarterback situation again, God willing for months, Shadora
could not afford the type of performance he had in
the third preseason game. It is as simple as that,
when you are a late round pick rookie. You can't
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have a disastrous performance. You can't, and he did. It
was not the coach's fault, it was not the offensive
line's fault. It was he had a bad game, flatly.
And the reason it is extra concerning is those of
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us that were skeptical that he was ever truly a
first round talent. We were worried that his bad games
would look a lot like that, like trying to do
a little too much with his legs, overestimating his escapability
and taking those big, deep long sets. Shador needed to
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thread a perfect needle, and he was. By the way
early on in camp. He needed to play well in practice.
It looked like he was. He needed Dylan Gabriel to
struggle in practice he was. He needed to play well
in the first preseason game. He did. He needed Gabriel
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to struggle in the first preseason game. Gabriel didn't even play.
So all of that was going best case scenario for
Shadoor to achieve what was the only realistic goal for
him this offseason, which was past Dylan Gabriel in the
death chart. He was never going to be the Browns
starting quarterback in Week one. It was always the Browns
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plan very clearly was one of the veterans is starting,
and then the kids are backing him up, and all
of it was going according to plan. Shadoor then offered
a slight injury which made him not able to play
at all in the second preseason game. Gabriel then, after
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some really bad practices, played quite well in the second
preseason game. Then in the third preseason game, Gabriel played
quite well again and Shador had a disastrous performance. And
that is now that as far as the quarterback competition goes.
That is not conspiratorial, That is not unfair, that is
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not unjust. That is life in the NFL. Is a
late round draft pick. That is what happened here. Also,
Chador fans need to recognize there's not a team in
the league he'd start for. Not one. You're on the
team with arguably the worst quarterback situation and he is
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fairly right now their third best option to be a
starting quarterback. Okay, that is where we're at now. Is
that a death knell for his career? No is. Do
I think he has more potential than Gabriel because of
size and pedigree, I do, But if I had to
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from what we saw in those preseason games. If in
Week one Flacco goes out, you would have to be
more comfortable putting Gabriel in. That is what it is.
That's not ridiculous, that's not unfair, that's not a vast conspiracy.
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That is what it is. The reason I find this
story interesting is the reason I find a lot of
things interesting is when they are symbolic for a greater
problem or issue. And the Shador Sanders commentary, to me,
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is a case study in what has in what is
currently ailing so much of our discourse surrounding sports and
other things, which is either totally uninformed actors or outright
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bad actors churning the outrage mill to create engagement and controversy.
That then the current actual media feels obligated to treat
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seriously because well, it's what people are talking about, and
then it becomes a valid, real story. And so you
have folks that absolutely know better saying things like Shadoor
was out there with the fifth string offensive line when
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such a thing does not exist. It's like, oh, is
there's not that offensive lineman was tenth on the depth chart?
Well there's yeah, I kid it, but there's five offensive
linemen that play at a time, and so there is
the first of all, there is no such thing as
a fifth string offensive line. You have people who know
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better saying, oh, color me shocked. Those offensive linemen on
the field with Shador were cut shortly after the game.
No shit, man, you're at a ninety man roster in
your third preseason game. Thirty seven of those guys aren't
making the team. Guest who doesn't make the team, Guys
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playing at the end of third preseason games, and there
is It's just just a kerdle of enough validity to
the conspiracies. Because is it likely true that the head
coach didn't actually want Shador and the owner told him
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to draft him. Yes, probably is true. Is it likely
true that the head coach wanted Dylan Gabriel to win
that competition because that's the quarterback he wanted, and Shador
is the quarterback the owner wanted. Yes, that is likely true.
Does any of that mean Shador was put set up
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to fail, couldn't succeed? No, man, throw the ball away,
don't retreat back twenty five yards, don't don't make the
types of mistakes that some of us were worried you
would make, And it's not again, your a fifth round pick.
It's fine, but and because the own wanted you on
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the team, you're likely going to get to play at
some point this year because the owner said both rookies
are gonna need to play. So the way this probably
goes is the Browns start the season, they're bad. Third
of the way into the season, they pull the plug
on Flacco. They go to Dylan Gabriel. They're still quite bad.
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Gabriel as in my opinion, an overdrafted third round pick.
He doesn't look like the guy. And five six games
later they give Shador a try, and Shador is a
slightly underdrafted but still not ready fifth round pick. He
doesn't look like the guy. And next year the Browns
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used the pick they got from the Jags and their
own pick to draft their actual quarterback. That's probably how
this thing's going to go, but it is the folks
out there promoting the idea league wide code read the
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whole league was told don't draft him, and then the
Browns were told to draft him, and then internal Brown's
code read only call the bad plays Kevin and then
also the same folks and I didn't understand the Tyler
Huntley signing. I said that from the beginning, I didn't
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understand Tyler Huntley playing that two minute drill. But the
folks saying Shador was set up to fail with that
terrible offensive line are unto the same folks saying and
how dare you not put him in in the two
minute drill? It's not that complicated, guys, And this isn't
fair to Shador. He did not do this to himself, demonse.
(09:47):
But here is a reality of it, this entire conversation
and media Maelstrom is one of the reasons he fell
on the draft because he's not a stud player. And
once and all and no other team is having to
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answer questions about their deep end quarterback competition and it's
the only things Tofanski's had to deal with. So it's
just that is what it is, and the Raiders needed.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
To why Garriel was ahead of him. I don't think
anybody should be calling for a conspiracy like you saw it.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
That's I mean, that's the thing, and that's what's to
me so disheartening is we saw the game and people
will still like, Nope, that does not jive with my priors,
That does not jive with what I wanted to be true,
And there is an element of have you ever watched
(10:54):
the this is a bridge too far? But I don't
I don't care. Have you ever watched the Flat Earth documentary?
You should watch it. It's really a truly fascinating ninety minutes. Okay,
and these aren't bad people, and it is really interesting.
(11:15):
But the culmination of the documentary is one of the
group of flat earthers saying or spending a ton of
money into getting the equipment. I'm gonna get this a
little wrong. The optical equipment. You would need to prove that.
(11:38):
All right, We're gonna set up this pole and light here,
and we're gonna set up another pole here, and if
the Earth was flat, the light will shine at this place,
and if the Earth was flat, the light earth around,
the light will shine at this place. And we're gonna
prove it. And they do it, and the light shows
(12:02):
up where it would show up if the Earth were round,
and the reaction initially is huh, let's try it again.
Then they do it again, and it is a brief
(12:22):
questioning is the equipment broken? And then it immediately goes
to Wow. The conspiracies even bigger than we thought they've
somehow hacked lighting. And there is an element of that
with some of the Shador stuff, which was right. It
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was he's clearly better. He clearly should be the guy.
He's clearly not getting the opportunities they're clearly if he
and Gabriel were both playing, and then they play a game,
Gabriel looks good, Shador has a really really tough performance,
and instead of it being like, oh, okay, that's why
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he was ahead of him on the depth chart, it was, Wow,
these sons of bitches will go to no end to
stop my guy. And it's it's a little canary in
the coal mine of some of the bigger issues we
have right now with what is truth and what is not.
(13:30):
And so I find it interesting. I do.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
I know that.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
My favorite NFL podcast, Greg Rosenthal's NFL Daily, which I'll
be on later this week. Actually, you know, they have
done they have tried to do a They have done
a really good job of like not leading with the
topic every day that you know, the shows, like the
TV shows like mine lead with the juiciest thing because
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they're like really gooding you the news and information and stuff.
And I respect that entirely. But there is a deeper
element to some of the Shador stuff that I find fascinating,
just like there's a deeper element actually to some of
the Mica stuff that I find fascinating. That's actually about
Jerry Jones and power and things like that. But at
the end of the day, chance.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
If he looked better anyways, Like why would they want
to make him look bad? It would be in their
businesses for Shador to look great by the end, even
if they didn't plan on keeping him.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
Of course, of course, guys who want to keep their
jobs want their quarterback, want to put the best quarterback
on the field. Yeah, I mean, there's most of the
most conspiracies Demanse fall apart at the first or second question,
most like and that you just asked the first question,
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which is the wait, why again? Explain it to me?
Just like the the the chi the league rigged for
the Chiefs conspiracy. It's like, hey, remind me again, who
is the league? The thirty two teams? So why again
are the Chargers in on this? Like some explain that
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to me. So most of them fall apart instantly, But
so listen, he had a chance to pass Gabriel and
if Gabriel, and the nicer way to frame it is
Gabriel after that injury and watching Shador in preseason Game one,
was under real pressure and Gabriel responded and so shout
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Speaker 1 (17:52):
Then we move to a division. I have strong feelings
on a lot of these teams, but only one win
total that I want to bet, and that's the AFC North.
So Ravens demonse over under eleven and a half juice
slightly to the over. I am not betting it, but
you cannot. You can't pick a Ravens under until proven otherwise,
(18:17):
and so to me, they are an over when lamar
like last year, it felt like they lost a ton
of dumb games, they still won twelve and I like
the move the moves they made this offseason. I think
they will continue to be a regular season juggernaut. With
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that said, the reason this is not a bet for
me is the slight concern that Derek hen we saw
the last great Derek Henry season. And if that's the case,
I could see them only winning eleven games. But it
wouldn't shock me if this team goes fourteen and three.
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It would shock me if this team goes ten and seven.
So because of that, I'm an over. I imagine you Demanse
are a strong over for both.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
Oh yeah, definitely the best team in the NFL right.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
Now, The best team in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
I mean easy top two er three. But yeah, so
that's good.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
Wells, A lot of people think it's best team in
the NFL. Penick Kimes got very mad at me because
I did not, But I certainly think they are. They
are set up for massive regular season success. I also
think that when you were talking about like the Patriots
schedule the Ravens schedules in the other direction. Yeah, it
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is brutality for the Ravens. Now what does that mean
for him? They they typically have a tough schedule this year.
To me, if you want it to hear it terrable.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Actually it's not. It's not that bad they I mean,
obviously you got the divisional games, but then outside of that,
like you got the Rams, you.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
Have the divisional Yeah that's what. Yeah, you have the
divisional games plus the NFC North plus the other Uh
I have.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
It right here? What's the other division that they play?
Speaker 1 (20:26):
Sorry I had it and now I closed it. But regardless,
I think that and the AFC East. So the AFC
East is not brutal, but it's certainly not an easy schedule.
But there Listen, they win seventy five of their games
in the regular season with Lamar, they would be an over.
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It's not a bet for me. Here's our first bet.
The Bengals under nine and a half wins at minus
one fifteen. Why is the defense going to be better
than last year's. And if the answer is lou An
Arumo was a was a you know, an inside agent
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for the opposition, so be it. But I disagree. And
so the the They did get Drey Hendrickson back, that
does matter. I'm not dismissing that. However, they had him
last year and he led the NFL in sacks. I
think the offensive line could be a real problem. And
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because of that, demons, I think Burrow, Listen, Burrow, Chase
and Higgins are gonna be great. Are they going to
be as good as they were last year? I don't know.
And because of that, to me, the Bengals have a
carbon copy year of last year. They win nine games,
they missed the playoffs, and they fire their head coach.
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That is my major Cincinnati Bengals prediction is this is
Zach Taylor's last year there. And here's the other thing
with the Bengals. When you look at their schedule, you
like to say, oh, it opens soft at Cleveland home
for the Jags. They start every year so terribly. I
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don't know that I want my easy games. Early last
year they started against New England and found a way
to lose. I also think Miles Garrett could wreak some
havoc in Week one against them. I just again, I'm
not saying the Browns are gonna beat them. I think
the Bengals aren't under and that that is a bet.
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This next one, Demons is such a disrespectful number. The
rounds total said it four and a half minus one
forty five on the over, plus one twenty on the under.
It's an absolute stay away. But I will if I
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have to pick, I will pick Over. Yeah, I mean
four and a half wins when you you get seventeen games. Now,
now it is given the fact that they were a
last place team, you look at the schedule and you're like,
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where are the super easy games, and then you realize,
like one of their strength of schedule last place games
is the Niners. Like that's unlucky. The Titans is a
last place schedule game. But they get the Titans demanday
late in the year and cam Ward should be better,
so you know that's a bummer for them. Uh, they
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get the yeah you don't right, Well, no, they start
unbelievable Bengals, Ravens, Packers, Lions is how they start, like,
give me a break. And then but I don't think
the Steelers and Bengals are going to be great. And
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the numbers four and a half, I've got to go
over four and a half, and so I will go
over four and a half, but it's not a bet
for me. And then we get the Steelers, who cost
me a ton of money last year. I faded the
Steelers left and right, and they somehow found a way
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into the playoffs. Their total is eight and a half.
They are minus one p fifteen, minus one oh five.
I am an under for Pittsburgh, but it is not
a bet. I said this two months ago and I
will stick with it. I think that we have Mike
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Tomlin's first losing season as Aaron Rodgers' final season. That
was a take I had before they signed Rogers. Brew
then made it his own take, but then he flip
flopped it, so I took it back, and so I know,
doubting that Tomlin can get to nine wins has only
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ever been a losing bet, or doubting that he can
get to five hundred. He did go what eight eight
and one one year or something. He's never been below
five hundred others at some point, right, I would think so,
and I just I think they will have a good
but not overwhelmingly dominant defense. I don't think the Rogers
dk metcalf fit is a smart one like one that
(25:31):
makes sense, and so because of that, I am going
to go under on the Pittsburgh Steelers, which also means
through two divisions, I only have one bet. The bet
is Bengals under nine and a half, but I am
also skewing towards unders. The only I have under for
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Bills twelve and a half, Dolphins seven and a half,
Jets six and a half, Bengals nine and a half,
Stealer eight and a half over Brown's four and a
half over Patriots eight and a half, and over Bengals.
I'm sorry Ravens and over Ravens eleven.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
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Speaker 1 (26:10):
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Speaker 2 (27:01):
All right.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
Demons make miss playoff bets which involve a bunch of
redundancy to my other to my over unders, which I'm
fine with. Last year I made the mistake by bifurcating
them to try to minimize losses. This year, I'm going
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with the ones I truly believe in and betting them
in multiple spots instead of doing like multiple units on
a win total. We'll do it like this first one.
Go ahead and tell the audience you can make fun
of me.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
We've got the Jags at plus one eighty to make
the playoffs. I've got them too. I'm rhyme with you
on that.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
One, Okay, Yeah, And I'm listen, I'm being I think
conservative because I'm not having them win the division. I'm
having them make the playoffs at plus one eighty. I
it's the biggest year of Trevor's career. I think he
comes through. I then demand say the next one is
probably the most juice I've ever laid on this show,
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but I don't care.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
Go ahead, Yeah, the Chiefs to make the playoffs at
minus three eighty.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
What was that money laying on the ground?
Speaker 2 (28:13):
One and I pick it up?
Speaker 1 (28:15):
The you can you can say you're gonna lay. Yeah
I am. I'm gonna lay minus three eighty. And you
can be like, Nick, what if what if Patrick gets hurt?
I got bigger problems than the damn Chiefs make the playoffs?
Bet if Patrick gets hurt, I'll tell you that much
right now. And so the that's that, Yeah, the Chiefs,
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And so that means I'm gonna have to risk the
way these I should have made this clear for our
new listeners. All of our plus bets, unless otherwise specified,
all the plus bets we put one unit on. All
the minus bets, we we put enough. If it's minus
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one forty. We put one point four unit on it.
We put enough to win one unit, so the chiefs,
I'm putting three point eight units to win one. But
that's fine. This one here, however, like I said, unless
otherwise specified, this next one is a half unit bet,
and the one following it is a quarter unit bet.
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Go ahead.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
You got the Raiders to make the playoffs at plus
three forty.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
Yeah, I mean I've talked a ton about the Raiders
in a bunch of spots. I just like the value
at plus three forty. This one's going to shock people,
I would imagine, but I'll explain it in a second
on people.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
Giants at plus five hundred to make the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
All right, So the producers wondering, if I believe the
Giants can make the playoffs, why not also bet them
to win at least six games? Because here's the deal,
They're I don't act you think the Giants are gonna
be really good. However, there has to be the shock
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playoff team. I have cast my lot with it being
the Raiders. Is there an argument that Russell Wilson channel
something that d line Malik Neighbors continues on the Ascent
a soft NFC East because maybe Jaden misses time or something. Yes,
so I will. I think the Giants check a few
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of those boxes, and at five to one, I'm good
with it. So that's where that's where I land. And
then last but not least, and you can see this
team all over my gam This year.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
You got the Bucks at minus one seventy to make
the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
Yeah, I mean they're gonna win the division, but maybe
you know, maybe Pennix is unbelievable and the Falcons with
that schedule end up somehow winning the division at least.
But the Bucks wills the only one car. The Bucks
are going to win ten games. Ten games will get
them in the playoffs at least ten games, I should say. So,
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I just want to have action on the Bucks all
over the place. So my make the playoffs bets are Jags, Chiefs, Raiders, Giants,
Bucks with again half unit on the Raiders, quarter unit
on the Giants. Now the always popular missed the playoffs bet.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
Uh, you love putting this team here. You got the
Steelers to miss the playoffs at minus one forty.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
This the Steelers in the the Steelers two years ago.
The Jags ruined me last year the Steelers ruined me,
so I do. I don't have If you remember, the
Steelers are not one of my win total bets because
maybe Tomlin's, you know, gonna somehow create enough magic to
get to nine wins. I don't think they're gonna make
(31:54):
the playoffs. I'll take them under one forty. This next
team is the team I've been fading through the show.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
Go ahead, You've got the Colts minus two sixty to miss. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
I just don't see any scenario where the Colts find
their way into the playoffs with Daniel Jones in the AFC.
So I don't mind laying minus two sixty. And in fact,
you're going to see them somewhere else as well, in
one of my very few this year parlays.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
Next, you've got the Broncos to miss at plus one thirty. Yeah.
I just like that.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
It's plus money. You guys know that I'm not a
believer in the Broncos the way other people are. And
what is really unbelievable about where the Broncos stand is
they could It's unlikely, don't get me wrong, but they
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could hit their over for win total and miss the playoffs.
They could go ten and seven and still miss the playoffs.
I again, it's unlikely. Ten wins in the seventeen air,
I'm sorry, in the seven game playoff field should get
you in, but it's possible. I still, I don't have
to spend more time on it. I'm actually going on
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the radio with my friend Mark Schleret than Denver tomorrow
because everyone wants to yell at me, and that's fine.
I'll take the Broncos under nine and a half. Al,
I'm sorry, I'll take the Broncos to miss the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
Go ahead. Uh. You got the Cowboys to miss at
minus two ten. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
I almost did this instead of their total, but I
decided to double down on Cowboy skepticism this year. I
just think a coach I don't necessarily believe in a
drama with the best player on their roster. Yeah, terrible offseason.
I'll take them to miss.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
You've got the Vikings to miss at plus one hundred.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
Yeah, and I'm actually this is the first one I'm
doing like this, and this is going to sound odd.
I'm gonna throw two units on this one. I just
think that it would in that division. It would be
shocking to me if the Vikings somehow find a way
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into the playoffs. I know they did last year. I
know they won fourteen games, and I do like Kevin O'Connell,
but I am going to fade the vikings to the
tune of betting there under and a two unit bet
and then last but not least again, go ahead.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
You've got the Cardinals to miss at minus one forty.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
Yet the only reason my only trepidation there is what
if Stafford does miss a bunch of time and that
division feels wide open for everybody. So that is that's
the extent of my real concern there. I also am
going to do one, not multiple like last year to
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Monsey one missed the playoffs, parlay and folks, we're going
to go. We're gonna put two units on this it is.
We'll tell the audience it's minus one thirty five. Tell
the audience who it is.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
It's it's minus one thirty five. You got New Orleans,
the Jets in Cleveland all to miss the playoffs minus.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
I mean, hold on, you're leaving one team out.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
Oh, Indianapolis, I'm sorry, the Colts is.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
Yes, yeah, if you without the Colts, it's like minus
four point fifty or something. I needed to have I
mean New Orleans, the Jets, and the Browns to miss
the playoffs feels like it feels to me. Now listen,
a lot of bets have gone to die this way.
This is not sound gambling advice. And again, gamble for
recreational purposes. Don't bet more than you can afford to lose.
(35:42):
But adding New Orleans to miss the playoffs or Cleveland
to miss the playoffs to any preseason bet you make
just to give yourself a little extra juice is not it. Again,
it's not sound gambling advice, except it feels like impossible
to lose. The team that I am most worried about
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here blowing this up is actually the Jets. That the
Jets that if just you know, they run the hell
out of the ball, Aaron Glenn gets more out of
the defense than Solid did. If those things happen, that
they would be my concern. But I don't really have
any concern. I think these are four last place teams,
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four teams that I would be very surprised if they
didn't finish in last place in their division.
Welcome to the Best of the Week for What's Right
with Nick Right the best takes and moments from this
week on the show. Enjoy.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Yeah, So, Chador's final preseason game was a little shaky.
He threw for fourteen total yards, took five sacks, and
now Chador fans are coming out and saying that the
team and Kevin Stefanski are conspiring against it. But also
Kenny Pickett just got cut, so you know, if the
landscape changed up a little, Pickett traded to the Raiders traded,
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so the landscape white have changed up over there a
little bit. What's the situation looking like for Shadur All.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Right, well, listen, he was he started camp fourth string,
he stayed fourth string. He's now third string because one
of the strings is on the Raiders. And I'm going
to give you the very sober analysis of this. Then
we're gonna talk bigger picture of it, and then honestly,
we are not going to talk about the Cleveland Browns
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and the quarterback situation again, God willing for months, Shadora
could not afford the type of performance he had in
the third preseason game. It is as simple as that,
when you are a late round pick rookie. You can't
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have a disastrous performance. You can't, and he did. It
was not the coach's fault, it was not the offensive
line's fault. It was he had a bad game, flatly.
And the reason it is extra concerning is those of
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us that were skeptical that he was ever truly a
first round talent. We were worried that his bad games
would look a lot like that, like trying to do
a little too much with his legs, overestimating his escapability
and taking those big, deep long sets. Shador needed to
(02:02):
thread a perfect needle, and he was. By the way
early on in camp. He needed to play well in practice.
It looked like he was. He needed Dylan Gabriel to
struggle in practice he was. He needed to play well
in the first preseason game. He did. He needed Gabriel
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to struggle in the first preseason game. Gabriel didn't even play.
So all of that was going best case scenario for
Shadoor to achieve what was the only realistic goal for
him this offseason, which was past Dylan Gabriel in the
death chart. He was never going to be the Browns
starting quarterback in Week one. It was always the Browns
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plan very clearly was one of the veterans is starting,
and then the kids are backing him up, and all
of it was going according to plan. Shadoor then offered
a slight injury which made him not able to play
at all in the second preseason game. Gabriel then, after
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some really bad practices, played quite well in the second
preseason game. Then in the third preseason game, Gabriel played
quite well again and Shador had a disastrous performance. And
that is now that as far as the quarterback competition goes.
That is not conspiratorial, That is not unfair, that is
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not unjust. That is life in the NFL. Is a
late round draft pick. That is what happened here. Also,
Chador fans need to recognize there's not a team in
the league he'd start for. Not one. You're on the
team with arguably the worst quarterback situation and he is
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fairly right now their third best option to be a
starting quarterback. Okay, that is where we're at now. Is
that a death knell for his career? No is. Do
I think he has more potential than Gabriel because of
size and pedigree, I do, But if I had to
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from what we saw in those preseason games. If in
Week one Flacco goes out, you would have to be
more comfortable putting Gabriel in. That is what it is.
That's not ridiculous, that's not unfair, that's not a vast conspiracy.
(04:34):
That is what it is. The reason I find this
story interesting is the reason I find a lot of
things interesting is when they are symbolic for a greater
problem or issue. And the Shador Sanders commentary, to me,
(04:58):
is a case study in what has in what is
currently ailing so much of our discourse surrounding sports and
other things, which is either totally uninformed actors or outright
(05:23):
bad actors churning the outrage mill to create engagement and controversy.
That then the current actual media feels obligated to treat
(05:45):
seriously because well, it's what people are talking about, and
then it becomes a valid, real story. And so you
have folks that absolutely know better saying things like Shadoor
was out there with the fifth string offensive line when
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such a thing does not exist. It's like, oh, is
there's not that offensive lineman was tenth on the depth chart?
Well there's yeah, I kid it, but there's five offensive
linemen that play at a time, and so there is
the first of all, there is no such thing as
a fifth string offensive line. You have people who know
(06:32):
better saying, oh, color me shocked. Those offensive linemen on
the field with Shador were cut shortly after the game.
No shit, man, you're at a ninety man roster in
your third preseason game. Thirty seven of those guys aren't
making the team. Guest who doesn't make the team, Guys
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playing at the end of third preseason games, and there
is It's just just a kerdle of enough validity to
the conspiracies. Because is it likely true that the head
coach didn't actually want Shador and the owner told him
(07:16):
to draft him. Yes, probably is true. Is it likely
true that the head coach wanted Dylan Gabriel to win
that competition because that's the quarterback he wanted, and Shador
is the quarterback the owner wanted. Yes, that is likely true.
Does any of that mean Shador was put set up
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to fail, couldn't succeed? No, man, throw the ball away,
don't retreat back twenty five yards, don't don't make the
types of mistakes that some of us were worried you
would make, And it's not again, your a fifth round pick.
It's fine, but and because the own wanted you on
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the team, you're likely going to get to play at
some point this year because the owner said both rookies
are gonna need to play. So the way this probably
goes is the Browns start the season, they're bad. Third
of the way into the season, they pull the plug
on Flacco. They go to Dylan Gabriel. They're still quite bad.
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Gabriel as in my opinion, an overdrafted third round pick.
He doesn't look like the guy. And five six games
later they give Shador a try, and Shador is a
slightly underdrafted but still not ready fifth round pick. He
doesn't look like the guy. And next year the Browns
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used the pick they got from the Jags and their
own pick to draft their actual quarterback. That's probably how
this thing's going to go, but it is the folks
out there promoting the idea league wide code read the
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whole league was told don't draft him, and then the
Browns were told to draft him, and then internal Brown's
code read only call the bad plays Kevin and then
also the same folks and I didn't understand the Tyler
Huntley signing. I said that from the beginning, I didn't
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understand Tyler Huntley playing that two minute drill. But the
folks saying Shador was set up to fail with that
terrible offensive line are unto the same folks saying and
how dare you not put him in in the two
minute drill? It's not that complicated, guys, And this isn't
fair to Shador. He did not do this to himself, demonse.
(09:47):
But here is a reality of it, this entire conversation
and media Maelstrom is one of the reasons he fell
on the draft because he's not a stud player. And
once and all and no other team is having to
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answer questions about their deep end quarterback competition and it's
the only things Tofanski's had to deal with. So it's
just that is what it is, and the Raiders needed.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
To why Garriel was ahead of him. I don't think
anybody should be calling for a conspiracy like you saw it.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
That's I mean, that's the thing, and that's what's to
me so disheartening is we saw the game and people
will still like, Nope, that does not jive with my priors,
That does not jive with what I wanted to be true,
And there is an element of have you ever watched
(10:54):
the this is a bridge too far? But I don't
I don't care. Have you ever watched the Flat Earth documentary?
You should watch it. It's really a truly fascinating ninety minutes. Okay,
and these aren't bad people, and it is really interesting.
(11:15):
But the culmination of the documentary is one of the
group of flat earthers saying or spending a ton of
money into getting the equipment. I'm gonna get this a
little wrong. The optical equipment. You would need to prove that.
(11:38):
All right, We're gonna set up this pole and light here,
and we're gonna set up another pole here, and if
the Earth was flat, the light will shine at this place,
and if the Earth was flat, the light earth around,
the light will shine at this place. And we're gonna
prove it. And they do it, and the light shows
(12:02):
up where it would show up if the Earth were round,
and the reaction initially is huh, let's try it again.
Then they do it again, and it is a brief
(12:22):
questioning is the equipment broken? And then it immediately goes
to Wow. The conspiracies even bigger than we thought they've
somehow hacked lighting. And there is an element of that
with some of the Shador stuff, which was right. It
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was he's clearly better. He clearly should be the guy.
He's clearly not getting the opportunities they're clearly if he
and Gabriel were both playing, and then they play a game,
Gabriel looks good, Shador has a really really tough performance,
and instead of it being like, oh, okay, that's why
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he was ahead of him on the depth chart, it was, Wow,
these sons of bitches will go to no end to
stop my guy. And it's it's a little canary in
the coal mine of some of the bigger issues we
have right now with what is truth and what is not.
(13:30):
And so I find it interesting. I do.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
I know that.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
My favorite NFL podcast, Greg Rosenthal's NFL Daily, which I'll
be on later this week. Actually, you know, they have
done they have tried to do a They have done
a really good job of like not leading with the
topic every day that you know, the shows, like the
TV shows like mine lead with the juiciest thing because
(13:59):
they're like really gooding you the news and information and stuff.
And I respect that entirely. But there is a deeper
element to some of the Shador stuff that I find fascinating,
just like there's a deeper element actually to some of
the Mica stuff that I find fascinating. That's actually about
Jerry Jones and power and things like that. But at
the end of the day, chance.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
If he looked better anyways, Like why would they want
to make him look bad? It would be in their
businesses for Shador to look great by the end, even
if they didn't plan on keeping him.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
Of course, of course, guys who want to keep their
jobs want their quarterback, want to put the best quarterback
on the field. Yeah, I mean, there's most of the
most conspiracies Demanse fall apart at the first or second question,
most like and that you just asked the first question,
(14:52):
which is the wait, why again? Explain it to me?
Just like the the the chi the league rigged for
the Chiefs conspiracy. It's like, hey, remind me again, who
is the league? The thirty two teams? So why again
are the Chargers in on this? Like some explain that
(15:16):
to me. So most of them fall apart instantly, But
so listen, he had a chance to pass Gabriel and
if Gabriel, and the nicer way to frame it is
Gabriel after that injury and watching Shador in preseason Game one,
was under real pressure and Gabriel responded and so shout
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Speaker 1 (17:52):
Then we move to a division. I have strong feelings
on a lot of these teams, but only one win
total that I want to bet, and that's the AFC North.
So Ravens demonse over under eleven and a half juice
slightly to the over. I am not betting it, but
you cannot. You can't pick a Ravens under until proven otherwise,
(18:17):
and so to me, they are an over when lamar
like last year, it felt like they lost a ton
of dumb games, they still won twelve and I like
the move the moves they made this offseason. I think
they will continue to be a regular season juggernaut. With
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that said, the reason this is not a bet for
me is the slight concern that Derek hen we saw
the last great Derek Henry season. And if that's the case,
I could see them only winning eleven games. But it
wouldn't shock me if this team goes fourteen and three.
(19:04):
It would shock me if this team goes ten and seven.
So because of that, I'm an over. I imagine you Demanse
are a strong over for both.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
Oh yeah, definitely the best team in the NFL right.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
Now, The best team in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
I mean easy top two er three. But yeah, so
that's good.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
Wells, A lot of people think it's best team in
the NFL. Penick Kimes got very mad at me because
I did not, But I certainly think they are. They
are set up for massive regular season success. I also
think that when you were talking about like the Patriots
schedule the Ravens schedules in the other direction. Yeah, it
(19:45):
is brutality for the Ravens. Now what does that mean
for him? They they typically have a tough schedule this year.
To me, if you want it to hear it terrable.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Actually it's not. It's not that bad they I mean,
obviously you got the divisional games, but then outside of that,
like you got the Rams, you.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
Have the divisional Yeah that's what. Yeah, you have the
divisional games plus the NFC North plus the other Uh
I have.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
It right here? What's the other division that they play?
Speaker 1 (20:26):
Sorry I had it and now I closed it. But regardless,
I think that and the AFC East. So the AFC
East is not brutal, but it's certainly not an easy schedule.
But there Listen, they win seventy five of their games
in the regular season with Lamar, they would be an over.
(20:46):
It's not a bet for me. Here's our first bet.
The Bengals under nine and a half wins at minus
one fifteen. Why is the defense going to be better
than last year's. And if the answer is lou An
Arumo was a was a you know, an inside agent
(21:07):
for the opposition, so be it. But I disagree. And
so the the They did get Drey Hendrickson back, that
does matter. I'm not dismissing that. However, they had him
last year and he led the NFL in sacks. I
think the offensive line could be a real problem. And
(21:29):
because of that, demons, I think Burrow, Listen, Burrow, Chase
and Higgins are gonna be great. Are they going to
be as good as they were last year? I don't know.
And because of that, to me, the Bengals have a
carbon copy year of last year. They win nine games,
they missed the playoffs, and they fire their head coach.
(21:50):
That is my major Cincinnati Bengals prediction is this is
Zach Taylor's last year there. And here's the other thing
with the Bengals. When you look at their schedule, you
like to say, oh, it opens soft at Cleveland home
for the Jags. They start every year so terribly. I
(22:12):
don't know that I want my easy games. Early last
year they started against New England and found a way
to lose. I also think Miles Garrett could wreak some
havoc in Week one against them. I just again, I'm
not saying the Browns are gonna beat them. I think
the Bengals aren't under and that that is a bet.
(22:33):
This next one, Demons is such a disrespectful number. The
rounds total said it four and a half minus one
forty five on the over, plus one twenty on the under.
It's an absolute stay away. But I will if I
(22:54):
have to pick, I will pick Over. Yeah, I mean
four and a half wins when you you get seventeen games. Now,
now it is given the fact that they were a
last place team, you look at the schedule and you're like,
(23:14):
where are the super easy games, and then you realize,
like one of their strength of schedule last place games
is the Niners. Like that's unlucky. The Titans is a
last place schedule game. But they get the Titans demanday
late in the year and cam Ward should be better,
so you know that's a bummer for them. Uh, they
(23:38):
get the yeah you don't right, Well, no, they start
unbelievable Bengals, Ravens, Packers, Lions is how they start, like,
give me a break. And then but I don't think
the Steelers and Bengals are going to be great. And
(24:00):
the numbers four and a half, I've got to go
over four and a half, and so I will go
over four and a half, but it's not a bet
for me. And then we get the Steelers, who cost
me a ton of money last year. I faded the
Steelers left and right, and they somehow found a way
(24:21):
into the playoffs. Their total is eight and a half.
They are minus one p fifteen, minus one oh five.
I am an under for Pittsburgh, but it is not
a bet. I said this two months ago and I
will stick with it. I think that we have Mike
(24:45):
Tomlin's first losing season as Aaron Rodgers' final season. That
was a take I had before they signed Rogers. Brew
then made it his own take, but then he flip
flopped it, so I took it back, and so I know,
doubting that Tomlin can get to nine wins has only
(25:07):
ever been a losing bet, or doubting that he can
get to five hundred. He did go what eight eight
and one one year or something. He's never been below
five hundred others at some point, right, I would think so,
and I just I think they will have a good
but not overwhelmingly dominant defense. I don't think the Rogers
dk metcalf fit is a smart one like one that
(25:31):
makes sense, and so because of that, I am going
to go under on the Pittsburgh Steelers, which also means
through two divisions, I only have one bet. The bet
is Bengals under nine and a half, but I am
also skewing towards unders. The only I have under for
(25:53):
Bills twelve and a half, Dolphins seven and a half,
Jets six and a half, Bengals nine and a half,
Stealer eight and a half over Brown's four and a
half over Patriots eight and a half, and over Bengals.
I'm sorry Ravens and over Ravens eleven.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
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Speaker 2 (27:01):
All right.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
Demons make miss playoff bets which involve a bunch of
redundancy to my other to my over unders, which I'm
fine with. Last year I made the mistake by bifurcating
them to try to minimize losses. This year, I'm going
(27:22):
with the ones I truly believe in and betting them
in multiple spots instead of doing like multiple units on
a win total. We'll do it like this first one.
Go ahead and tell the audience you can make fun
of me.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
We've got the Jags at plus one eighty to make
the playoffs. I've got them too. I'm rhyme with you
on that.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
One, Okay, Yeah, And I'm listen, I'm being I think
conservative because I'm not having them win the division. I'm
having them make the playoffs at plus one eighty. I
it's the biggest year of Trevor's career. I think he
comes through. I then demand say the next one is
probably the most juice I've ever laid on this show,
(28:05):
but I don't care.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
Go ahead, Yeah, the Chiefs to make the playoffs at
minus three eighty.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
What was that money laying on the ground?
Speaker 2 (28:13):
One and I pick it up?
Speaker 1 (28:15):
The you can you can say you're gonna lay. Yeah
I am. I'm gonna lay minus three eighty. And you
can be like, Nick, what if what if Patrick gets hurt?
I got bigger problems than the damn Chiefs make the playoffs?
Bet if Patrick gets hurt, I'll tell you that much
right now. And so the that's that, Yeah, the Chiefs,
(28:37):
And so that means I'm gonna have to risk the
way these I should have made this clear for our
new listeners. All of our plus bets, unless otherwise specified,
all the plus bets we put one unit on. All
the minus bets, we we put enough. If it's minus
(28:58):
one forty. We put one point four unit on it.
We put enough to win one unit, so the chiefs,
I'm putting three point eight units to win one. But
that's fine. This one here, however, like I said, unless
otherwise specified, this next one is a half unit bet,
and the one following it is a quarter unit bet.
(29:20):
Go ahead.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
You got the Raiders to make the playoffs at plus
three forty.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
Yeah, I mean I've talked a ton about the Raiders
in a bunch of spots. I just like the value
at plus three forty. This one's going to shock people,
I would imagine, but I'll explain it in a second
on people.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
Giants at plus five hundred to make the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
All right, So the producers wondering, if I believe the
Giants can make the playoffs, why not also bet them
to win at least six games? Because here's the deal,
They're I don't act you think the Giants are gonna
be really good. However, there has to be the shock
(30:07):
playoff team. I have cast my lot with it being
the Raiders. Is there an argument that Russell Wilson channel
something that d line Malik Neighbors continues on the Ascent
a soft NFC East because maybe Jaden misses time or something. Yes,
so I will. I think the Giants check a few
(30:29):
of those boxes, and at five to one, I'm good
with it. So that's where that's where I land. And
then last but not least, and you can see this
team all over my gam This year.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
You got the Bucks at minus one seventy to make
the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
Yeah, I mean they're gonna win the division, but maybe
you know, maybe Pennix is unbelievable and the Falcons with
that schedule end up somehow winning the division at least.
But the Bucks wills the only one car. The Bucks
are going to win ten games. Ten games will get
them in the playoffs at least ten games, I should say. So,
(31:07):
I just want to have action on the Bucks all
over the place. So my make the playoffs bets are Jags, Chiefs, Raiders, Giants,
Bucks with again half unit on the Raiders, quarter unit
on the Giants. Now the always popular missed the playoffs bet.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
Uh, you love putting this team here. You got the
Steelers to miss the playoffs at minus one forty.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
This the Steelers in the the Steelers two years ago.
The Jags ruined me last year the Steelers ruined me,
so I do. I don't have If you remember, the
Steelers are not one of my win total bets because
maybe Tomlin's, you know, gonna somehow create enough magic to
get to nine wins. I don't think they're gonna make
(31:54):
the playoffs. I'll take them under one forty. This next
team is the team I've been fading through the show.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
Go ahead, You've got the Colts minus two sixty to miss. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
I just don't see any scenario where the Colts find
their way into the playoffs with Daniel Jones in the AFC.
So I don't mind laying minus two sixty. And in fact,
you're going to see them somewhere else as well, in
one of my very few this year parlays.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
Next, you've got the Broncos to miss at plus one thirty. Yeah.
I just like that.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
It's plus money. You guys know that I'm not a
believer in the Broncos the way other people are. And
what is really unbelievable about where the Broncos stand is
they could It's unlikely, don't get me wrong, but they
(32:49):
could hit their over for win total and miss the playoffs.
They could go ten and seven and still miss the playoffs.
I again, it's unlikely. Ten wins in the seventeen air,
I'm sorry, in the seven game playoff field should get
you in, but it's possible. I still, I don't have
to spend more time on it. I'm actually going on
(33:10):
the radio with my friend Mark Schleret than Denver tomorrow
because everyone wants to yell at me, and that's fine.
I'll take the Broncos under nine and a half. Al,
I'm sorry, I'll take the Broncos to miss the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
Go ahead. Uh. You got the Cowboys to miss at
minus two ten. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
I almost did this instead of their total, but I
decided to double down on Cowboy skepticism this year. I
just think a coach I don't necessarily believe in a
drama with the best player on their roster. Yeah, terrible offseason.
I'll take them to miss.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
You've got the Vikings to miss at plus one hundred.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
Yeah, and I'm actually this is the first one I'm
doing like this, and this is going to sound odd.
I'm gonna throw two units on this one. I just
think that it would in that division. It would be
shocking to me if the Vikings somehow find a way
(34:07):
into the playoffs. I know they did last year. I
know they won fourteen games, and I do like Kevin O'Connell,
but I am going to fade the vikings to the
tune of betting there under and a two unit bet
and then last but not least again, go ahead.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
You've got the Cardinals to miss at minus one forty.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
Yet the only reason my only trepidation there is what
if Stafford does miss a bunch of time and that
division feels wide open for everybody. So that is that's
the extent of my real concern there. I also am
going to do one, not multiple like last year to
(34:49):
Monsey one missed the playoffs, parlay and folks, we're going
to go. We're gonna put two units on this it is.
We'll tell the audience it's minus one thirty five. Tell
the audience who it is.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
It's it's minus one thirty five. You got New Orleans,
the Jets in Cleveland all to miss the playoffs minus.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
I mean, hold on, you're leaving one team out.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
Oh, Indianapolis, I'm sorry, the Colts is.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
Yes, yeah, if you without the Colts, it's like minus
four point fifty or something. I needed to have I
mean New Orleans, the Jets, and the Browns to miss
the playoffs feels like it feels to me. Now listen,
a lot of bets have gone to die this way.
This is not sound gambling advice. And again, gamble for
recreational purposes. Don't bet more than you can afford to lose.
(35:42):
But adding New Orleans to miss the playoffs or Cleveland
to miss the playoffs to any preseason bet you make
just to give yourself a little extra juice is not it. Again,
it's not sound gambling advice, except it feels like impossible
to lose. The team that I am most worried about
(36:04):
here blowing this up is actually the Jets. That the
Jets that if just you know, they run the hell
out of the ball, Aaron Glenn gets more out of
the defense than Solid did. If those things happen, that
they would be my concern. But I don't really have
any concern. I think these are four last place teams,
(36:24):
four teams that I would be very surprised if they
didn't finish in last place in their division.
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