Nick Wright breaks down why Russell Wilson is not a Hall of Famer following the New York Giants' decision to start Jaxson Dart in Week 4 of the NFL season. Next, Nick shares his major concerns with Lamar Jackson and the Baltimore Ravens following their Monday Night Football loss to the Detroit Lions. Nick then looks ahead to Baltimore's clash with Patrick Mahomes, Travis Kelce, and the Kansas City Chiefs. Which 1-2 AFC contender has more to lose? #Volume
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the best of the week for What's Right
with Nick Right the best takes in moments from this
week on the show Enjoy.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
So they are not letting Russ cook anymore in New York,
it's Jackson dark time. They put him in a kind
of a weird time as could be a blessing or
a curse. They are playing the Chargers and they have
a top ranked defense. How do you see things going
for Jackson Dart in the Giants?
Speaker 1 (00:23):
I think they might get a temporary shot in the arm.
I'm not right. Listen, They're in New York. I think
that defense is good. I am. I'm giving the Giants
maybe a bigger chance than I should at making this
a real game and then seeing what Jackson Dart can do.
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When Daniel Jones took over, you know, not a few
years ago, but half decade ago. His first game, I
think it was against Tampa. He comes in, plays well,
they steal a win. They're feeling good now. That team
didn't end up being very good, but like in that moment,
because I do think they were out on Russ. I
(01:05):
I am not as big on the Jackson Dart aura
as other people are. But people seem to really like him.
I guess we'll you know, we'll see. Guy strikes me
is a little bit of like a frat bro. But
whatever with the I am open. I liked him evidently
that that chain isn't a chain, it's his sister's necklace
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that he yeah, yeah, so like he borrowed it from
her war it now he wears it for good luck.
I don't have that full story. I think it's been
reported out elsewhere, but they seem very excited about him.
To me, the bigger story is about Russ. Is his
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career over? And is he a Hall of Famer? And
my answer to those questions are yes, his career is over,
and no, he's not Hall of Famer. And it is
stunning how quickly this ended for him. It doesn't feel
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stunning because it feels like he's been bad for years now,
which he has been. But Russell Wilson forced his way
out of Seattle. The Broncos gave up a king's ransom
for him and then paid him early a huge deal,
and he immediately was terrible. And it was it was
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not that long ago that people thought the Broncos were
going to be a real threat because they got Russell Wilson.
It was September of twenty twenty two that they gave
up multiple first round picks, gave him a huge deal,
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and then he and Nat Hackett lost that opening game
to Geno and the Seahawks, and it's just been a
disaster for him ever since. And I understand he has
a good career winning percentage, and I understand that he has,
you know, nine Pro Bowls ten no, ten Pro Bowls
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because he oddly made the Pro Bowl last year. And listen,
he was a really really good player in Seattle. But
in his during his career, Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Aaron Rodgers,
Drew Brees, Big Ben Patrick, Josh Lamar, we're all Hall
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of Fame quarterbacks. During his career, Philip Rivers was, in
my opinion, better than Russ. I don't know that Rivers
is getting in Eli. I don't know that I think
Eli was better than Russ. But Eli has the two
Super Bowls versus one, and Eli I don't think is
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getting in, at least not anytime soon. He didn't have
as high of a peak as Cam Newton or Matt Ryan,
who are not getting in. And the longevity part is
not there for him. He had nine good to excellent
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years and that's it. And for a quarterback you need more.
There was It's hard to find more than one year
where he was a consensus top five quarterback. It's impossible
to find one year where he was a consensus top
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three quarterback. And so I just don't think he's a
Hall of Famer. He was on a Hall of Fame trajectory.
And if Malcolm Butler doesn't pick that ball off, and
he has the greatest start to a career in the
history of the league. A Year one takes team to
Divisional round of the playoffs. Year two wins the Super
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Bowl over Peyton Manning, Year three wins the Super Bowl
over Tom Brady. But Malcolm Butler did pick that ball off.
And the fact of the matter is the best teams
he was on, good teams that he was the centerpiece of.
He was on great teams that he was the caretaker of.
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And I just don't think he's a Hall of Famer.
And I don't know at this point Demont's I don't know, Like,
are the Bengals gonna call and try to get him?
I don't think so, Like, I don't know where he
goes and.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
As a starter is just a backup. Right we're talking back.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
No, I'm talking about the Bengals as a starter right now, Okay,
like with Burrow out like, but the Broncos traded for him,
they were done with him after a year and a half.
The Steelers signed him, they were done with him after
a half year starting. The Giants signed him, they were
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done with him after three games starting. I just think
it's over and it's a pretty crummy ending, and so
I don't but like, to me, he's not a Hall
of Fame player. He's a really good player with a
really good career, but not a Hall of Fame player,
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and it sure seemed like the Giants could not wait
to move on from him, as far as it's a
Giants thought process here, I Danny's been making this point,
and I think he's right. If Jackson Dart's ready now,
he was probably ready in week one, And if he
wasn't ready in week one, he's probably not ready now.
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But I think that Brian Dable doesn't want to be
deal with empty met life seats and booze if he
wants to have a chance of keeping that job, and
so putting Dart out there is getting at least the
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All right, demon's a tough night for your Baltimore Ravens
and take us through before we get to it.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
So last night, my Baltimore Ravens, we coughed up another one.
Lamar was running for his life, Dereck Henry with another
costly fumble. Detroit came back on the next drive, converted
on fourth, got a touchdown. So we did it for
your team, we should do it for my team too.
Should I be worried about my Ravens with how everything's
going at the moment.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
So I'm glad you listen. I'm glad you put it
in that context. We did it for the Chiefs for
being zero and two and now one and two. Should
we do it for Baltimore? And it is a very
interesting test of sports media today and who has and
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has not earned benefits of the doubt because I silly me,
Chiefs Homer Lifelong, Kansas City, and got a tattoo about
the team. Silly me. I would have thought that a
team that has been to seven consecutive conference championship games,
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been to five of the last six Super Bowls, won
three of the last six Super Bowls, and been to
three straight that if any team would have earned a
benefit of the doubt for sputtering out of the gates,
it would be the Chiefs, but I was wrong. It
was is a lot of talk about how systemically the
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team may be broken, about Patrick not being as good
as he once was, Andy's play design not being as
creative as it once was, and about how this team
just isn't scary anymore. And you know an ad that
will get to in a minute, when over the New
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York Giants didn't exactly quiet that for most people. We'll
get to my thoughts on it in a second. And
the tackle that turned the tide trademark, as Kevin Wilds
would say, I wonder how folks are going to discuss
the Baltimore Ravens now that they are one and two
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with the one victory being an uninspiring one over the
Cleveland Browns. Now that they the Baltimore Ravens, who the
benefit of doubt that they have earned is being to
zero consecutive Super Bowls, zero in the last decade, one
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conference championship game appearance. If we are going to look
at the Baltimore Ravens defense with the same critical eye
that we have looked at the Kansas City Chiefs offense,
a Baltimore Ravens defense that ultimately last year was not
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good enough that up to this point this year has
been down right awful, a Baltimore Ravens team that, on
top of that, seems to situationally not be the most
buttoned up in football, and a Baltimore Ravens team that,
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all of a sudden second best player seems to have
an odd fumble problem. Now, I don't know if you
agree with me or not on this, Demonsey. I do
not think that game was lost on the Derrick Henry fumble.
I think that the rape. That game was lost on
the Ravens' entire inability to get us to stop Detroit
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from doing whatever they wanted on the ground.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
Yeah, that's fair.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
And the two ninety five plus yard drives of Detroit
just running it down their throat, to me, was a
flashing red light of concern. And it is. You know,
it's kind of perfect that, you know, the Chiefs and
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the Ravens now play each other on Sunday, because one
of these teams is going to be zero and three
with three losses to the three legitimate teams they faced,
and the other team's going to be two and two
and have studied ship And we'll talk obviously more about
that game. On Thursday and Fridays.
Speaker 4 (14:04):
You think, but oh yeah, go ahead, we'll talk about
I was gonna say, what do you think with Kansas
City winning in Baltimore coming off this loss, that it's
a bad scenario for the Chiefs, could be a potential
trap game?
Speaker 1 (14:18):
Well no, again, this is I blame Wilds for this,
not you. No, nobody seems to understand what trap game
means anymore. Trap game you're talking about maybe brown let
down spot or something. Trap game? Is you what? So
let's say the Chiefs had been two to zero going
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into the Giants game with the Ravens coming up the
following week, then the Giants are a trap game. Trap
game is team flying high facing a bad opponent with
a good opponent coming up. Trap game. Perfect example. Trap
game is what the Packers just dealt with looking great,
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have the Cowboys, you know, kind of not revenge, but
a big Mica game coming up, and then the Browns
beat him. That's a trap game. The Chiefs playing the
Ravens like not a trap game. It is a What
you're talking about is the Ravens all of a sudden
potentially more desperate coming off the loss. But desperation is
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you know accounts for something. Whether or not this team
is quite as good as everyone assigned them as being
is something else. And so let's talk about the actual
game itself. So the Ravens defense was disastrous start to finish. Now,
they didn't have nom Di Matabuque, but I don't know
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when they're getting him back. They didn't have Kyle van Noy,
but I don't know when they're getting him back. And
Rokwan Smith was not good. Historically, he's been excellent last
year was a little shaky. Last night he was not good. Obviously,
folks are gonna focus on the Derek Henry fumble. I
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want to talk about Lamar for a second. And again
I texted this Greg Rosenthal this morning about alleged you know,
because Greg said he didn't want to be lumped in
with the quote Lamar haters, And I texted Greg, I
was like, the Lamar haters group is just Bill Pollion
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from a decade ago in a draft evaluation. And I
guess me, because everyone else in the media is in
pretty much lockstep that this guy is simply unimpeachably great
and one of the greatest players we've ever seen. And
while I do think he's one of the greatest players
we've ever seen. I ain't. Last night he was not
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quite as good as the numbers suggest. And let me
tell you why now. Not just because the I don't
really care about the final eighty yard cards and touchdown
when they were down fourteen with less than two minutes left.
That's not what I'm talking about. Even before that, like
you started the game nine of ten, his pass rating
was crazy. He was making some really good passes. There
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are two things last night that I feel are not
one offs that if I were a Raven fan, would
be concerning. One is Lamar's refusal to throw the ball
away and his hesitation to just take off and run,
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and those two things combining to him being sacked seven
times is just a killer. Like he was great when
he threw the ball, but he needed to throw the
ball a little more or a little quicker or take
off and run. Those sacks were drive killers time and
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time again. So that's the kind of potato crazy.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
And it being seven sacks, that's something that will get
corrected pretty fast.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
Yes, I would think so. But it was the concern
there is it wasn't corrected during the game. It was
five sacks, you know, when they were still in the
game and still on that last drive before the drive
when they punted with like six minutes left, you know,
he took he got sacked once there and then another
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one he ran, but it was essentially a sack, like yeah, exactly,
and here's the other one. And I'm just curious if
other people noticed it. Man, he seemed to be wound
tight from the opening snack.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
He was pissed off the whole game. Yeah, he was
tilted the entire time I saw it. I don't know
what it was. It was like very simple stuff in
the beginning.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
So weird that the first drive of the game that
they didn't score. I don't know which stride it was,
but the first time they went three and out, his
like body language and emotions are really yeah and so
and that is we have seen that Lamar a handful
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of times before. It unfortunately for him, more often than not,
is in the playoffs, where like early in the game,
you're like, oh, he is anxious about this spot, but
they were coming off a win like that. I didn't
really get it. Why the last time they played Detroit
they annihilated him. He has a hilarious record in his
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career against NFC teams. I'm gonna pull it up real
quick because it now obviously I think he was like
twenty three and one.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
Say it again, okay, I thought at this point he
has like four losses total from the NFC.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
It might be less than that.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
Apparently, I think it's less two the so lamar, No,
you were right. You nailed it. So going into last night,
he was twenty four and four in against the NFC
with forty eight touchdowns, nine picks, and like a one
toh eight rating. I think maybe he had at some
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point won like twenty straight or something. Whatever it was,
he had had a ridiculous record against the NFC. He
had beaten, they annihilated the Lions last time they played
he they had just come off a win, and the
offense had been great in both games, or they scored
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forty points in both games. It was just a weird
spot for him to be wound immediately, and those things
concern me.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
Man.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
So here is here is the I think fair read.
Given everything I've said about the Chiefs being fine about
where the Ravens are as they now both sit at
one and two, it is hard like what either the
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Chiefs or the Ravens are gonna be one and three
Sunday night. It will still be so hard to find
seven AFC playoff teams without including both of the Chiefs
and the Ravens. And here's why. The Bills are three
and oh they're excellent. The Chargers are three and oh
they're excellent. Okay, here is the entire list of teams
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other than Bills and Chargers in the AFC that currently
have a better record than the Evens and Chiefs at
one and two. We're two teams the Colts who are
three and zero, who look excellent, but I think there
is still a little bit of waiting for the bottom
to fall out. And then there are only three other
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teams and they all feel totally fraudulent. They the Cincinnati Bengals, well,
the Cincinnati Bengals who don't have their quarterback, the Steelers
who are not good, flatly not good. And I worry side,
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you know, preview to Knicks Picks. I cannot wait to
be on the Vikings this weekend as they play a
London or an Ireland game and that defense going after
Aaron Rodgers. And then the Jags, who I man, I
can't I have not been pleased without the Jags have
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played through three weeks. That's it, right, and I know
it's the playoffs obviously don't start today. If the playoffs
started today, the AFC would have a one in two
playoff team like one of the one and two teams
would make it. So I will not say that the
Ravens at one and two or even at one in
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three should panic as far as making the playoffs. What
I will say is one of the reasons I have
this confidence about the Chiefs is for a nearly a
decade now, every single year they play their best ball
in the postseason home or road. No, they play their
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best ball on the postseason. Particularly the AFC side of
the bracket. Havn't obviously always played their best ball in
the super Bowl, but in the postseason they had, or
in the AFC side of the bracket they have. The
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Ravens are the opposite. And I think that the defense
last year looked hugely problematic and then turned it around
at mid season. I don't know if they're going to
be able to do that again, and so they.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
Are still very potent.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
Like this, This is a good offensive. I want to
call them offensive Juggernaut, But damn near.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
It's a pretty good team.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
No, they're gonna have to do some stuff to you,
but you see, you're one of the better teams.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
You got to be able to beat the good teams.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
Correct, right, it's the the Ravens are trying to win
a Super Bowl. They're going to have to go through
the Bills, Kansas City, the Chargers just to get to
whomever is in the other side of the bracket. And
I and if you were to tell me right now, honestly,
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if you have an all time legend at quarterback, like
the Chiefs and the Ravens both do, what would you
rather If you're gonna have to have one part of
your team really be struggling early in the season, what
would you rather it be? Me? Personally, I'd rather it
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be the side of the ball that my all time
legend can help correct. So, like, if you're in Kansas City,
you the offense has not looked good, but Patrick is
directly involved in that and has months to figure it out.
If you're Baltimore, the defense has looked awful. Lamar's on
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the sidelines for that, and so that to me is
legitimate reason for concern. All right, let's talk the Lions
side real quick, demanse well S.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
Yeah, they struggled in Week one versus Green Bay, but
they've been humming ever since. They are fifth in Super
Bowl odds. Do you think that's too high, too low,
or just right?
Speaker 1 (26:11):
I don't mind it. I listen. I've been really impressed
by how they've responded to that Week one performance and
last week putting fifty on the Bears, and this week,
I mean they've scored what ninety points in their last
two games after having six points going late, you know,
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late in Week one. Really impressive. And Dan Campbell's game
management is excellent. That going for that fourth down was
objectively the right call and a call a lot of
teams up seven wouldn't have done. And you know he
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Speaker 2 (27:55):
Oh yeah, so your chiefs of my Ravens face off
this weekend. Yeah, they're both looking at one and three
starts between the two. Who do you think has more
on the line?
Speaker 1 (28:06):
I listen, I saw Orlovsky this morning, say it's clearly
the Chiefs. I know that the Chiefs are the team
that people have been far more panicked about than Baltimore.
I think people have this flatly wrong. It is to me,
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unquestionably Baltimore that has more on the line, and it
is for two very distinct reasons that apply to Baltimore
in a way they don't apply to Kansas City. The
first one is this, if we believe these even though
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one of these teams is going to be one in
three that both of these teams still have Super Bowl aspirations,
and that Baltimore certainly still has Super Bowl aspirations. They
have to win this game for two reasons that are
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related to each other. One is maybe by winning this game,
you won't have to go through Kansas City in the playoffs.
And by winning this game, if you do have to
play Kansas City in the playoffs, you have some reason
to believe you can beat them. Lamar and the Ravens
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have lost five of the six games they've played against
Patrick and the Chiefs. They have lost four in a row.
They have lost in Baltimore, they have lost in Kansas City. Lamar,
who has the highest passer rating in the history of
the NFL, has an eighty passer rating against the Chiefs.
Lamar has not played a singularly great game against Kansas
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City except for one time. The one time they won,
and I think that was thirty six thirty five after
Clyde Edwards Hilaire fumble and then Baltimore went for a
fourth down smartly late nice the game. There is a
massive psychological edge the Chiefs have over the Ravens, and
even if the Ravens win this game, they are not
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going to have a psychological edge on Kansas City, and
so like if the Ravens win, the Chiefs are not
going to if they were to play in the playoffs,
go into that game thinking we can't beat this team.
But if the Chiefs win, how can Baltimore credibly think
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that the Chiefs don't simply have their number? And so
I also think that the Ravens upcoming if they fall
to one in three, a team that, oddly to me,
and we talked about it a lot Tuesday, felt tight
and anxious in their game against Detroit. Their next two
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games home for the Texans with a great defense but
a terrible offense, and then home for the Rams. That's
concerning the Chiefs. Meanwhile, the game after this is Jacksonville.
Now you can say Jacksonville is better than Houston, and
I know they're two and one, Houston's zero to three,
and Jacksonville just beat Houston. It still feels to me
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like Houston has a higher upside potentially than Jacksonville. So I.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
Yeah, that's what I was about to saying.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
Right then, No, then they have the Lions. But I
also think because after the Lions, the Chiefs get Rashi
Rice back that there is a level of okay, like
let's say they lose to Baltimore and lose to the
Lions and they beat Jacksonville and they're two and four.
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Getting Rashi Rice back, I still feel like the team
psychologically will feel like, all right, yeah, now we're finally whole. Yeah,
let's just we're not gonna have home field, We're probably
not gonna win the division. Let's just see if we
can get in and be scary. I and that is
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that's one of the reasons that I just listen, I'm
not gonna panic about.
Speaker 3 (32:29):
It either for a few weeks.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
Yeah, well correct, Like, I just unless you are going
to go as far as to say Kansas City, I
fear is going to miss the postseason. I don't think
anybody actually believes they're not a terrifying team once the
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postseason begins, even if they get there by going ten
and seven. They got there by going eleven and six
two years go and won the Super Bowl, going to Buffalo,
going to Baltimore, and so I just I also think
there is a level of in the commentariat offensive bias
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that is showing up in the way we talk about Buffalo.
I'm sorry Baltimore in Kansas City. Kansas City's offense has
been its biggest concern. Kansas City's offense kind of across
the board is mid their average. They're thirteenth and this seventeenth,
and that fourteenth and this fifteenth and that they're just average,
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and that has caused massive concern. Baltimore's defense has been
its problem, and they're awful in everything and that so
the side of the ball Kansas City is struggling on.
They're struggling to the two of being average. The side
of the ball Baltimore is struggling on. They're struggling to
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the tune of being horrible. And there is go ahead with.
Speaker 3 (34:09):
That said about Baltimore's defense.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
If Kansas City still, if the offense still struggles, then
what yeah that even with that, Worthy's coming back too.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
So the so that's a good question. If they win
a low scoring game, I do, then that is great,
you know what I like. If they win, if they
win the score the way they beat Baltimore in the
AFC Title Game seventeen to ten, then I and the
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offense doesn't cook, but they win, I don't care. I
do not care if they don't. You know, so because
I also but now if they let me, I'm gonna
say a bunch here. If they lose, If Baltimore scores
a ton and the Chiefs just can't keep up and
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they lose twenty eight thirteen, something like that, that'll be
concerning about what the Chiefs offense actually is and how
much just getting Rashi Rice back will fix it. I
also have and I don't know if statistically this has
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been proven or even it can be backed up or anything,
but it feels to me like very often games take
on a personality, and like one of the reasons Cowboys
Giants was high flying the way it was was the
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off one team's offense to get another team's offense. Does
that make sense? Like it was that that game led
to the personality. Almost of that game was quick drives,
deep bombs. You score, I score, you score, I score.
The very next week, that same Giants offense played a
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Chiefs team that was stuck in the mud, long drives,
no explosives, and they didn't have any. So that's the
same Giants offense right now. The Chiefs defense is obviously
better than the Cowboys defense, but not thirty five points better.
You wouldn't think and yet that's you know, that's what
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we got in that game. And so my point is this,
I think the Ravens offense, I don't think this is
going to be a thirty one to twenty eight game.
I think this is far more likely to be a
because we the Eagles can be high flying and high scoring,
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the Chargers can be high scoring. Both teams have played
the Chiefs and they the game has kind of taken
on the personality of the current Chiefs, which is these
long drives, fight for yards. And I don't think that's
just because of the Chiefs defense. I think that, again,
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I can't prove it, and maybe what I'm saying right
now sounds weird, but I just think sometimes games take on,
like I said, a personality almost and there is somehow
a butterfly effect of one team's offense hitting deep shots
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leading to another team's offense hitting deep shots. It's just
from my ex because here's the other thing that's really
weird about kind of consuming football and how we feel
watching it. So you would agree Tomanse that that Chiefs
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Giants game, the Chiefs offense looked hard to watch and stagnant. Yeah, right,
that it was a bad offensive game and they finished
with twenty It would have been twenty three, but twenty
two points because they missed the extra point. You would agree.
So the Chiefs in that game scored twenty two. You
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would agree that Ravens Lions. The Ravens offense was moving
the ball seemingly at will, and the problem in that
game wasn't the offense.
Speaker 3 (38:29):
Yeah, and you would have.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
Felt that way even if they didn't get that garbage
time touchdown. You know, when they were down fourteen, The
Ravens going into garbage time of that game had twenty
four points, and it felt like the offense was doing
whatever it wanted. The Chiefs fought and clawed an ugly football,
(38:53):
scored twenty two points, and it felt like the offense
could do nothing. So again I'm not what I'm kind
of almost talking about.
Speaker 3 (39:02):
Like ideas here Giants.
Speaker 1 (39:05):
No, I agree, but the Giants defense is supposed to
be decent, and we don't look at the Lions as
a great defense. And so the point I'm making is
sometimes you can score twenty four points and it can
look it can feel like your offense was humming, and
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you can score twenty three points and it can feel
like your offense couldn't do anything, and so I just
feel like we are going to get a slugfest in
Kansas City where every yard is going to be, you know,
hard to get because and here's the other reason. I
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don't think Baltimore's past defense is as bad as the
numbers suggest. I think their run defense he's horrible, truly horrible.
And I just don't know if the Chiefs have the
personnel to take full advantage of a horrible run defense
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like that. That was the story of Ravens Lions was
the run defense. And so I if there was ever
gonna be a time for Pacheco to look like Pacheco
from a couple of years ago, this would be this game.
I just don't know if they have it. I don't know,
but I would you say, I do, go ahead.
Speaker 2 (40:36):
Who do you think on your team needs to step
up the most in this game?
Speaker 1 (40:42):
I think this is what have I said about Travis.
He's got five or six great games left in it. Yeah,
this would be a good time for one of them. Yeah,
He's he's had a rough start to the season, he
has owned this matchup. Getting Worthy back should open things
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up in the middle of the field. A little bit
more and Tae Kwan Thornton all of a sudden you
have to take him seriously at least as a deep threat.
And so I this would be a nice Travis Kelce game.
I am. I believe. Listen, I think Kansas City is.
Speaker 3 (41:29):
That's a crazy question, but you think.
Speaker 1 (41:33):
Flad, Yes, absolutely, And now listen, I'm gonna be holding
my breath on the Worthy stuff because we're only a
few weeks removed from that shoulder dislocation, and he's gonna
the further down the road we get, the stronger that
shoulder gets. So I don't think Worthy is gonna be
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like super featured in the game plan, but I think
just having him out there should help quite a bit. Uh.
No surprise here. One of my picks on the gambling
show is going to be the Chiefs plus the points
because I think they're gonna win. Uh, Demons and I
will make We're gonna figure out some type of wager
to make on this game. It won't be financial, but
(42:16):
some type of wager to make on this game. Uh,
tomorrow during the Gambling Show. I have some ideas. I
think you have some ideas that it feels like it
can be financial on my end, but I the I
won't I I listen, I won't. I won't accept the
request or the or the transfer if it's from you.
(42:38):
I'm not taking money from you. So it's gotta be more.
It's gotta be You are gonna have to do something
and I'm gonna have to give something. Is I think
the way to make this bet feel something. We'll figure
something out.
Welcome to the best of the week for What's Right
with Nick Right the best takes in moments from this
week on the show Enjoy.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
So they are not letting Russ cook anymore in New York,
it's Jackson dark time. They put him in a kind
of a weird time as could be a blessing or
a curse. They are playing the Chargers and they have
a top ranked defense. How do you see things going
for Jackson Dart in the Giants?
Speaker 1 (00:23):
I think they might get a temporary shot in the arm.
I'm not right. Listen, They're in New York. I think
that defense is good. I am. I'm giving the Giants
maybe a bigger chance than I should at making this
a real game and then seeing what Jackson Dart can do.
(00:44):
When Daniel Jones took over, you know, not a few
years ago, but half decade ago. His first game, I
think it was against Tampa. He comes in, plays well,
they steal a win. They're feeling good now. That team
didn't end up being very good, but like in that moment,
because I do think they were out on Russ. I
(01:05):
I am not as big on the Jackson Dart aura
as other people are. But people seem to really like him.
I guess we'll you know, we'll see. Guy strikes me
is a little bit of like a frat bro. But
whatever with the I am open. I liked him evidently
that that chain isn't a chain, it's his sister's necklace
(01:29):
that he yeah, yeah, so like he borrowed it from
her war it now he wears it for good luck.
I don't have that full story. I think it's been
reported out elsewhere, but they seem very excited about him.
To me, the bigger story is about Russ. Is his
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career over? And is he a Hall of Famer? And
my answer to those questions are yes, his career is over,
and no, he's not Hall of Famer. And it is
stunning how quickly this ended for him. It doesn't feel
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stunning because it feels like he's been bad for years now,
which he has been. But Russell Wilson forced his way
out of Seattle. The Broncos gave up a king's ransom
for him and then paid him early a huge deal,
and he immediately was terrible. And it was it was
(02:41):
not that long ago that people thought the Broncos were
going to be a real threat because they got Russell Wilson.
It was September of twenty twenty two that they gave
up multiple first round picks, gave him a huge deal,
(03:06):
and then he and Nat Hackett lost that opening game
to Geno and the Seahawks, and it's just been a
disaster for him ever since. And I understand he has
a good career winning percentage, and I understand that he has,
you know, nine Pro Bowls ten no, ten Pro Bowls
(03:29):
because he oddly made the Pro Bowl last year. And listen,
he was a really really good player in Seattle. But
in his during his career, Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Aaron Rodgers,
Drew Brees, Big Ben Patrick, Josh Lamar, we're all Hall
(03:57):
of Fame quarterbacks. During his career, Philip Rivers was, in
my opinion, better than Russ. I don't know that Rivers
is getting in Eli. I don't know that I think
Eli was better than Russ. But Eli has the two
Super Bowls versus one, and Eli I don't think is
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getting in, at least not anytime soon. He didn't have
as high of a peak as Cam Newton or Matt Ryan,
who are not getting in. And the longevity part is
not there for him. He had nine good to excellent
(04:42):
years and that's it. And for a quarterback you need more.
There was It's hard to find more than one year
where he was a consensus top five quarterback. It's impossible
to find one year where he was a consensus top
(05:05):
three quarterback. And so I just don't think he's a
Hall of Famer. He was on a Hall of Fame trajectory.
And if Malcolm Butler doesn't pick that ball off, and
he has the greatest start to a career in the
history of the league. A Year one takes team to
Divisional round of the playoffs. Year two wins the Super
(05:26):
Bowl over Peyton Manning, Year three wins the Super Bowl
over Tom Brady. But Malcolm Butler did pick that ball off.
And the fact of the matter is the best teams
he was on, good teams that he was the centerpiece of.
He was on great teams that he was the caretaker of.
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And I just don't think he's a Hall of Famer.
And I don't know at this point Demont's I don't know, Like,
are the Bengals gonna call and try to get him?
I don't think so, Like, I don't know where he
goes and.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
As a starter is just a backup. Right we're talking back.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
No, I'm talking about the Bengals as a starter right now, Okay,
like with Burrow out like, but the Broncos traded for him,
they were done with him after a year and a half.
The Steelers signed him, they were done with him after
a half year starting. The Giants signed him, they were
(06:30):
done with him after three games starting. I just think
it's over and it's a pretty crummy ending, and so
I don't but like, to me, he's not a Hall
of Fame player. He's a really good player with a
really good career, but not a Hall of Fame player,
(06:53):
and it sure seemed like the Giants could not wait
to move on from him, as far as it's a
Giants thought process here, I Danny's been making this point,
and I think he's right. If Jackson Dart's ready now,
he was probably ready in week one, And if he
wasn't ready in week one, he's probably not ready now.
(07:16):
But I think that Brian Dable doesn't want to be
deal with empty met life seats and booze if he
wants to have a chance of keeping that job, and
so putting Dart out there is getting at least the
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All right, demon's a tough night for your Baltimore Ravens
and take us through before we get to it.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
So last night, my Baltimore Ravens, we coughed up another one.
Lamar was running for his life, Dereck Henry with another
costly fumble. Detroit came back on the next drive, converted
on fourth, got a touchdown. So we did it for
your team, we should do it for my team too.
Should I be worried about my Ravens with how everything's
going at the moment.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
So I'm glad you listen. I'm glad you put it
in that context. We did it for the Chiefs for
being zero and two and now one and two. Should
we do it for Baltimore? And it is a very
interesting test of sports media today and who has and
(10:18):
has not earned benefits of the doubt because I silly me,
Chiefs Homer Lifelong, Kansas City, and got a tattoo about
the team. Silly me. I would have thought that a
team that has been to seven consecutive conference championship games,
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been to five of the last six Super Bowls, won
three of the last six Super Bowls, and been to
three straight that if any team would have earned a
benefit of the doubt for sputtering out of the gates,
it would be the Chiefs, but I was wrong. It
was is a lot of talk about how systemically the
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team may be broken, about Patrick not being as good
as he once was, Andy's play design not being as
creative as it once was, and about how this team
just isn't scary anymore. And you know an ad that
will get to in a minute, when over the New
(11:28):
York Giants didn't exactly quiet that for most people. We'll
get to my thoughts on it in a second. And
the tackle that turned the tide trademark, as Kevin Wilds
would say, I wonder how folks are going to discuss
the Baltimore Ravens now that they are one and two
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with the one victory being an uninspiring one over the
Cleveland Browns. Now that they the Baltimore Ravens, who the
benefit of doubt that they have earned is being to
zero consecutive Super Bowls, zero in the last decade, one
(12:12):
conference championship game appearance. If we are going to look
at the Baltimore Ravens defense with the same critical eye
that we have looked at the Kansas City Chiefs offense,
a Baltimore Ravens defense that ultimately last year was not
(12:34):
good enough that up to this point this year has
been down right awful, a Baltimore Ravens team that, on
top of that, seems to situationally not be the most
buttoned up in football, and a Baltimore Ravens team that,
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all of a sudden second best player seems to have
an odd fumble problem. Now, I don't know if you
agree with me or not on this, Demonsey. I do
not think that game was lost on the Derrick Henry fumble.
I think that the rape. That game was lost on
the Ravens' entire inability to get us to stop Detroit
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from doing whatever they wanted on the ground.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
Yeah, that's fair.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
And the two ninety five plus yard drives of Detroit
just running it down their throat, to me, was a
flashing red light of concern. And it is. You know,
it's kind of perfect that, you know, the Chiefs and
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the Ravens now play each other on Sunday, because one
of these teams is going to be zero and three
with three losses to the three legitimate teams they faced,
and the other team's going to be two and two
and have studied ship And we'll talk obviously more about
that game. On Thursday and Fridays.
Speaker 4 (14:04):
You think, but oh yeah, go ahead, we'll talk about
I was gonna say, what do you think with Kansas
City winning in Baltimore coming off this loss, that it's
a bad scenario for the Chiefs, could be a potential
trap game?
Speaker 1 (14:18):
Well no, again, this is I blame Wilds for this,
not you. No, nobody seems to understand what trap game
means anymore. Trap game you're talking about maybe brown let
down spot or something. Trap game? Is you what? So
let's say the Chiefs had been two to zero going
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into the Giants game with the Ravens coming up the
following week, then the Giants are a trap game. Trap
game is team flying high facing a bad opponent with
a good opponent coming up. Trap game. Perfect example. Trap
game is what the Packers just dealt with looking great,
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have the Cowboys, you know, kind of not revenge, but
a big Mica game coming up, and then the Browns
beat him. That's a trap game. The Chiefs playing the
Ravens like not a trap game. It is a What
you're talking about is the Ravens all of a sudden
potentially more desperate coming off the loss. But desperation is
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you know accounts for something. Whether or not this team
is quite as good as everyone assigned them as being
is something else. And so let's talk about the actual
game itself. So the Ravens defense was disastrous start to finish. Now,
they didn't have nom Di Matabuque, but I don't know
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when they're getting him back. They didn't have Kyle van Noy,
but I don't know when they're getting him back. And
Rokwan Smith was not good. Historically, he's been excellent last
year was a little shaky. Last night he was not good. Obviously,
folks are gonna focus on the Derek Henry fumble. I
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want to talk about Lamar for a second. And again
I texted this Greg Rosenthal this morning about alleged you know,
because Greg said he didn't want to be lumped in
with the quote Lamar haters, And I texted Greg, I
was like, the Lamar haters group is just Bill Pollion
(16:26):
from a decade ago in a draft evaluation. And I
guess me, because everyone else in the media is in
pretty much lockstep that this guy is simply unimpeachably great
and one of the greatest players we've ever seen. And
while I do think he's one of the greatest players
we've ever seen. I ain't. Last night he was not
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quite as good as the numbers suggest. And let me
tell you why now. Not just because the I don't
really care about the final eighty yard cards and touchdown
when they were down fourteen with less than two minutes left.
That's not what I'm talking about. Even before that, like
you started the game nine of ten, his pass rating
was crazy. He was making some really good passes. There
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are two things last night that I feel are not
one offs that if I were a Raven fan, would
be concerning. One is Lamar's refusal to throw the ball
away and his hesitation to just take off and run,
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and those two things combining to him being sacked seven
times is just a killer. Like he was great when
he threw the ball, but he needed to throw the
ball a little more or a little quicker or take
off and run. Those sacks were drive killers time and
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time again. So that's the kind of potato crazy.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
And it being seven sacks, that's something that will get
corrected pretty fast.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
Yes, I would think so. But it was the concern
there is it wasn't corrected during the game. It was
five sacks, you know, when they were still in the
game and still on that last drive before the drive
when they punted with like six minutes left, you know,
he took he got sacked once there and then another
(18:36):
one he ran, but it was essentially a sack, like yeah, exactly,
and here's the other one. And I'm just curious if
other people noticed it. Man, he seemed to be wound
tight from the opening snack.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
He was pissed off the whole game. Yeah, he was
tilted the entire time I saw it. I don't know
what it was. It was like very simple stuff in
the beginning.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
So weird that the first drive of the game that
they didn't score. I don't know which stride it was,
but the first time they went three and out, his
like body language and emotions are really yeah and so
and that is we have seen that Lamar a handful
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of times before. It unfortunately for him, more often than not,
is in the playoffs, where like early in the game,
you're like, oh, he is anxious about this spot, but
they were coming off a win like that. I didn't
really get it. Why the last time they played Detroit
they annihilated him. He has a hilarious record in his
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career against NFC teams. I'm gonna pull it up real
quick because it now obviously I think he was like
twenty three and one.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
Say it again, okay, I thought at this point he
has like four losses total from the NFC.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
It might be less than that.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
Apparently, I think it's less two the so lamar, No,
you were right. You nailed it. So going into last night,
he was twenty four and four in against the NFC
with forty eight touchdowns, nine picks, and like a one
toh eight rating. I think maybe he had at some
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point won like twenty straight or something. Whatever it was,
he had had a ridiculous record against the NFC. He
had beaten, they annihilated the Lions last time they played
he they had just come off a win, and the
offense had been great in both games, or they scored
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forty points in both games. It was just a weird
spot for him to be wound immediately, and those things
concern me.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
Man.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
So here is here is the I think fair read.
Given everything I've said about the Chiefs being fine about
where the Ravens are as they now both sit at
one and two, it is hard like what either the
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Chiefs or the Ravens are gonna be one and three
Sunday night. It will still be so hard to find
seven AFC playoff teams without including both of the Chiefs
and the Ravens. And here's why. The Bills are three
and oh they're excellent. The Chargers are three and oh
they're excellent. Okay, here is the entire list of teams
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other than Bills and Chargers in the AFC that currently
have a better record than the Evens and Chiefs at
one and two. We're two teams the Colts who are
three and zero, who look excellent, but I think there
is still a little bit of waiting for the bottom
to fall out. And then there are only three other
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teams and they all feel totally fraudulent. They the Cincinnati Bengals, well,
the Cincinnati Bengals who don't have their quarterback, the Steelers
who are not good, flatly not good. And I worry side,
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you know, preview to Knicks Picks. I cannot wait to
be on the Vikings this weekend as they play a
London or an Ireland game and that defense going after
Aaron Rodgers. And then the Jags, who I man, I
can't I have not been pleased without the Jags have
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played through three weeks. That's it, right, and I know
it's the playoffs obviously don't start today. If the playoffs
started today, the AFC would have a one in two
playoff team like one of the one and two teams
would make it. So I will not say that the
Ravens at one and two or even at one in
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three should panic as far as making the playoffs. What
I will say is one of the reasons I have
this confidence about the Chiefs is for a nearly a
decade now, every single year they play their best ball
in the postseason home or road. No, they play their
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best ball on the postseason. Particularly the AFC side of
the bracket. Havn't obviously always played their best ball in
the super Bowl, but in the postseason they had, or
in the AFC side of the bracket they have. The
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Ravens are the opposite. And I think that the defense
last year looked hugely problematic and then turned it around
at mid season. I don't know if they're going to
be able to do that again, and so they.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
Are still very potent.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
Like this, This is a good offensive. I want to
call them offensive Juggernaut, But damn near.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
It's a pretty good team.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
No, they're gonna have to do some stuff to you,
but you see, you're one of the better teams.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
You got to be able to beat the good teams.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
Correct, right, it's the the Ravens are trying to win
a Super Bowl. They're going to have to go through
the Bills, Kansas City, the Chargers just to get to
whomever is in the other side of the bracket. And
I and if you were to tell me right now, honestly,
(25:07):
if you have an all time legend at quarterback, like
the Chiefs and the Ravens both do, what would you
rather If you're gonna have to have one part of
your team really be struggling early in the season, what
would you rather it be? Me? Personally, I'd rather it
(25:28):
be the side of the ball that my all time
legend can help correct. So, like, if you're in Kansas City,
you the offense has not looked good, but Patrick is
directly involved in that and has months to figure it out.
If you're Baltimore, the defense has looked awful. Lamar's on
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the sidelines for that, and so that to me is
legitimate reason for concern. All right, let's talk the Lions
side real quick, demanse well S.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
Yeah, they struggled in Week one versus Green Bay, but
they've been humming ever since. They are fifth in Super
Bowl odds. Do you think that's too high, too low,
or just right?
Speaker 1 (26:11):
I don't mind it. I listen. I've been really impressed
by how they've responded to that Week one performance and
last week putting fifty on the Bears, and this week,
I mean they've scored what ninety points in their last
two games after having six points going late, you know,
(26:34):
late in Week one. Really impressive. And Dan Campbell's game
management is excellent. That going for that fourth down was
objectively the right call and a call a lot of
teams up seven wouldn't have done. And you know he
(26:55):
is doing a lot to push towards will be fine
without Ben Johnson. So yeah, no, the Lions look really,
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Speaker 2 (27:55):
Oh yeah, so your chiefs of my Ravens face off
this weekend. Yeah, they're both looking at one and three
starts between the two. Who do you think has more
on the line?
Speaker 1 (28:06):
I listen, I saw Orlovsky this morning, say it's clearly
the Chiefs. I know that the Chiefs are the team
that people have been far more panicked about than Baltimore.
I think people have this flatly wrong. It is to me,
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unquestionably Baltimore that has more on the line, and it
is for two very distinct reasons that apply to Baltimore
in a way they don't apply to Kansas City. The
first one is this, if we believe these even though
(28:49):
one of these teams is going to be one in
three that both of these teams still have Super Bowl aspirations,
and that Baltimore certainly still has Super Bowl aspirations. They
have to win this game for two reasons that are
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related to each other. One is maybe by winning this game,
you won't have to go through Kansas City in the playoffs.
And by winning this game, if you do have to
play Kansas City in the playoffs, you have some reason
to believe you can beat them. Lamar and the Ravens
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have lost five of the six games they've played against
Patrick and the Chiefs. They have lost four in a row.
They have lost in Baltimore, they have lost in Kansas City. Lamar,
who has the highest passer rating in the history of
the NFL, has an eighty passer rating against the Chiefs.
Lamar has not played a singularly great game against Kansas
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City except for one time. The one time they won,
and I think that was thirty six thirty five after
Clyde Edwards Hilaire fumble and then Baltimore went for a
fourth down smartly late nice the game. There is a
massive psychological edge the Chiefs have over the Ravens, and
even if the Ravens win this game, they are not
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going to have a psychological edge on Kansas City, and
so like if the Ravens win, the Chiefs are not
going to if they were to play in the playoffs,
go into that game thinking we can't beat this team.
But if the Chiefs win, how can Baltimore credibly think
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that the Chiefs don't simply have their number? And so
I also think that the Ravens upcoming if they fall
to one in three, a team that, oddly to me,
and we talked about it a lot Tuesday, felt tight
and anxious in their game against Detroit. Their next two
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games home for the Texans with a great defense but
a terrible offense, and then home for the Rams. That's
concerning the Chiefs. Meanwhile, the game after this is Jacksonville.
Now you can say Jacksonville is better than Houston, and
I know they're two and one, Houston's zero to three,
and Jacksonville just beat Houston. It still feels to me
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like Houston has a higher upside potentially than Jacksonville. So I.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
Yeah, that's what I was about to saying.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
Right then, No, then they have the Lions. But I
also think because after the Lions, the Chiefs get Rashi
Rice back that there is a level of okay, like
let's say they lose to Baltimore and lose to the
Lions and they beat Jacksonville and they're two and four.
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Getting Rashi Rice back, I still feel like the team
psychologically will feel like, all right, yeah, now we're finally whole. Yeah,
let's just we're not gonna have home field, We're probably
not gonna win the division. Let's just see if we
can get in and be scary. I and that is
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that's one of the reasons that I just listen, I'm
not gonna panic about.
Speaker 3 (32:29):
It either for a few weeks.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
Yeah, well correct, Like, I just unless you are going
to go as far as to say Kansas City, I
fear is going to miss the postseason. I don't think
anybody actually believes they're not a terrifying team once the
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postseason begins, even if they get there by going ten
and seven. They got there by going eleven and six
two years go and won the Super Bowl, going to Buffalo,
going to Baltimore, and so I just I also think
there is a level of in the commentariat offensive bias
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that is showing up in the way we talk about Buffalo.
I'm sorry Baltimore in Kansas City. Kansas City's offense has
been its biggest concern. Kansas City's offense kind of across
the board is mid their average. They're thirteenth and this seventeenth,
and that fourteenth and this fifteenth and that they're just average,
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and that has caused massive concern. Baltimore's defense has been
its problem, and they're awful in everything and that so
the side of the ball Kansas City is struggling on.
They're struggling to the two of being average. The side
of the ball Baltimore is struggling on. They're struggling to
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the tune of being horrible. And there is go ahead with.
Speaker 3 (34:09):
That said about Baltimore's defense.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
If Kansas City still, if the offense still struggles, then
what yeah that even with that, Worthy's coming back too.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
So the so that's a good question. If they win
a low scoring game, I do, then that is great,
you know what I like. If they win, if they
win the score the way they beat Baltimore in the
AFC Title Game seventeen to ten, then I and the
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offense doesn't cook, but they win, I don't care. I
do not care if they don't. You know, so because
I also but now if they let me, I'm gonna
say a bunch here. If they lose, If Baltimore scores
a ton and the Chiefs just can't keep up and
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they lose twenty eight thirteen, something like that, that'll be
concerning about what the Chiefs offense actually is and how
much just getting Rashi Rice back will fix it. I
also have and I don't know if statistically this has
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been proven or even it can be backed up or anything,
but it feels to me like very often games take
on a personality, and like one of the reasons Cowboys
Giants was high flying the way it was was the
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off one team's offense to get another team's offense. Does
that make sense? Like it was that that game led
to the personality. Almost of that game was quick drives,
deep bombs. You score, I score, you score, I score.
The very next week, that same Giants offense played a
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Chiefs team that was stuck in the mud, long drives,
no explosives, and they didn't have any. So that's the
same Giants offense right now. The Chiefs defense is obviously
better than the Cowboys defense, but not thirty five points better.
You wouldn't think and yet that's you know, that's what
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we got in that game. And so my point is this,
I think the Ravens offense, I don't think this is
going to be a thirty one to twenty eight game.
I think this is far more likely to be a
because we the Eagles can be high flying and high scoring,
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the Chargers can be high scoring. Both teams have played
the Chiefs and they the game has kind of taken
on the personality of the current Chiefs, which is these
long drives, fight for yards. And I don't think that's
just because of the Chiefs defense. I think that, again,
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I can't prove it, and maybe what I'm saying right
now sounds weird, but I just think sometimes games take on,
like I said, a personality almost and there is somehow
a butterfly effect of one team's offense hitting deep shots
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leading to another team's offense hitting deep shots. It's just
from my ex because here's the other thing that's really
weird about kind of consuming football and how we feel
watching it. So you would agree Tomanse that that Chiefs
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Giants game, the Chiefs offense looked hard to watch and stagnant. Yeah, right,
that it was a bad offensive game and they finished
with twenty It would have been twenty three, but twenty
two points because they missed the extra point. You would agree.
So the Chiefs in that game scored twenty two. You
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would agree that Ravens Lions. The Ravens offense was moving
the ball seemingly at will, and the problem in that
game wasn't the offense.
Speaker 3 (38:29):
Yeah, and you would have.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
Felt that way even if they didn't get that garbage
time touchdown. You know, when they were down fourteen, The
Ravens going into garbage time of that game had twenty
four points, and it felt like the offense was doing
whatever it wanted. The Chiefs fought and clawed an ugly football,
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scored twenty two points, and it felt like the offense
could do nothing. So again I'm not what I'm kind
of almost talking about.
Speaker 3 (39:02):
Like ideas here Giants.
Speaker 1 (39:05):
No, I agree, but the Giants defense is supposed to
be decent, and we don't look at the Lions as
a great defense. And so the point I'm making is
sometimes you can score twenty four points and it can
look it can feel like your offense was humming, and
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you can score twenty three points and it can feel
like your offense couldn't do anything, and so I just
feel like we are going to get a slugfest in
Kansas City where every yard is going to be, you know,
hard to get because and here's the other reason. I
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don't think Baltimore's past defense is as bad as the
numbers suggest. I think their run defense he's horrible, truly horrible.
And I just don't know if the Chiefs have the
personnel to take full advantage of a horrible run defense
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like that. That was the story of Ravens Lions was
the run defense. And so I if there was ever
gonna be a time for Pacheco to look like Pacheco
from a couple of years ago, this would be this game.
I just don't know if they have it. I don't know,
but I would you say, I do, go ahead.
Speaker 2 (40:36):
Who do you think on your team needs to step
up the most in this game?
Speaker 1 (40:42):
I think this is what have I said about Travis.
He's got five or six great games left in it. Yeah,
this would be a good time for one of them. Yeah,
He's he's had a rough start to the season, he
has owned this matchup. Getting Worthy back should open things
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up in the middle of the field. A little bit
more and Tae Kwan Thornton all of a sudden you
have to take him seriously at least as a deep threat.
And so I this would be a nice Travis Kelce game.
I am. I believe. Listen, I think Kansas City is.
Speaker 3 (41:29):
That's a crazy question, but you think.
Speaker 1 (41:33):
Flad, Yes, absolutely, And now listen, I'm gonna be holding
my breath on the Worthy stuff because we're only a
few weeks removed from that shoulder dislocation, and he's gonna
the further down the road we get, the stronger that
shoulder gets. So I don't think Worthy is gonna be
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like super featured in the game plan, but I think
just having him out there should help quite a bit. Uh.
No surprise here. One of my picks on the gambling
show is going to be the Chiefs plus the points
because I think they're gonna win. Uh, Demons and I
will make We're gonna figure out some type of wager
to make on this game. It won't be financial, but
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some type of wager to make on this game. Uh,
tomorrow during the Gambling Show. I have some ideas. I
think you have some ideas that it feels like it
can be financial on my end, but I the I
won't I I listen, I won't. I won't accept the
request or the or the transfer if it's from you.
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I'm not taking money from you. So it's gotta be more.
It's gotta be You are gonna have to do something
and I'm gonna have to give something. Is I think
the way to make this bet feel something. We'll figure
something out.
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