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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Welcome in this episode of What's Driving The Great is
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So we are going to, like like when we originally
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did the show, today's show is going to be kind
of storylines, games, all of that, but our picks will
come Fridayday, and I actually, full disclosure, we'll be doing
them today, but we're doing it. We're separating into two
kind of more digestible episodes because when we do it
all together, one of two things happens. Either we race
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through the picks, which I don't want to do, or
the pod becomes an hour and a half, which nobody wants.
So and so the so that will be our plan
moving forward, and so you will get those it. Also,
the only thing it prevents is the only downside, so
to speak, is it does not allow us to pick
Thursday Night as part of our picks. But that's fine
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with me. We don't typically bet the Thursday night game anyway,
so that's no big deal. Everything good with you, Pale
out in La. We haven't checked in in a while.
Snake's good, life good, everything good.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Snake's good. Life's good. It's raining out here when that's rare,
so that's nice.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
That's probably good. Yeah, it's definitely good. The snake like,
oh wow, how about that?
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Didn't know? Oh sure, see I learned something new from
you every day, all right, straight to voicemail, brought to
you by boost Mobile. Some quarterback injuries this week lead
to some uncertainty. We'll get to that later in the show.
One that we'll get to right now. Justin Fields out
against Tampa Bay with a concussion to Rod Taylor. His
name is Tarrod Taylor, not Tyrod Taylor. That's a name
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we all mispronounced. I don't know how big of a
downgrade that is. I know Fields was awesome in week one.
We didn't see much in week two because he got hurt,
but he'll be in. Shoyotani creates a new fifty to
fifty club, fifty home runs and fifty strikeouts, not as
in him striking out, but as in him striking out
fifty batters and Adam Silver talking about NBA Europe in
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twenty seven or twenty eight. Adam Silver, however, might have
a little more on his hands to worry about right
now thanks to Pablo Torre's kind of intrepid journalism on
what was or wasn't going on with the Los Angeles Clippers.
Shout out to once upon my rival and now a
guy who I think just legit probably doesn't like me,
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but I earned it. Pablo Torre for his tore pardon
me for his great journalism on this and seeing he
and Cuban go back and forth. It's been pretty good.
And Pablo released new information this morning. Reminder to everybody
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and before we get into it, and I'll go full
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here fellas a note to everyone out there in the
Takes world, which honestly is not these days just media members.
It's obviously media members, but it's also anybody with any
type of following. We joke on first things first, that
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they call me mister Consistency. And while it is a
joke that that is what they call me, it is
not a joke that I try really really hard, and
one of my north stars of media and opinion and
kind of character is to try to be consistent that
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what I claim to represent, what I claim to care about,
what the stances that I have sought out, that those
logically align, and I don't pick and choose. And so
let me give you a four instance. We talk more
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on this show and the TV show about the Chiefs
than just about any team. If Sunday night the Chiefs
were to lose to the Giants, or this past Sunday
when they did lose to the Eagles, all of a
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sudden on Tuesdays, what's right, we don't get to the Chiefs,
then I'm a fraud. Then I am picking and choosing
when I want to, you know, do what I have
made part of my brand. Right when it's good, when
I'm winning, I'm all about it, and when I'm not,
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I run from it. Right that would be everyone would
look at that, obviously and clearly as fraudulent, maybe even cowardly.
The reason I say that kind of oddly, as I'm
sure some of you are wondering where this is going
before we get to the first big regular season game
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the Chiefs have played in years, this Sunday Night against
the Giants is because of this if over the last
few years. And this applies to a lot of people,
be it a comic, be it a politician, be it
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a talk show host, be it an internet personality. If
you have made part of your brand your allergy and
your discussed of and opposition to cancel culture, and you
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are what many of you have called yourself a First
Amendment absolutist, and you haven't found the time to respond
or to talk about what is, at least at the moment,
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one of the most direct and undeniable, outright attacks on
free speech by a direct state actor that we've seen,
certainly in my adult lifetime, then you're aphomy. And everyone
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does not have to have an opinion on everything, and
I think it is problematic when everyone feels like they
have to chime in on everything. But if you have
made part of your brand, I am starting the free
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press and I am going to rail against censorship on
college campuses and cancel culture, and you maybe correctly went
after previous administrations for trying to tamp down information that
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is disseminated on social media. If that is what you're
known for, if you're one of these comedians who half
your bit these days is can't tell jokes anymore because
they'll cancel you. And you've decided to sit out what
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we've seen and we'll see how it plays out. But
from the very top down of the administration, down to
the FCC, down to the temporary what's the word, not
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cancelation at least as of yet, but dismissal of Jimmy Kimmel,
then you're just a fraud. And that's fine, as Wild says.
Everybody can't be mister consistency. And again, I want to
make this clear. If you have sat out a lot
of the First Amendment, cancel culture, that those conversations on
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whenever it's happening, you're like, ah, not my purview. I
am not. I do not think you have a responsibility
right now to be like this is where I take
my stand. I do not feel that way. But if
that's been your brand and you are more concerned about
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folks paying a potential private life penalty because of things
they've said. By and by private life, I mean being
publicly criticized or not getting booked at a theater, and
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less concerned with what is outright state actor induced attempted censorship.
Then did you ever really believe it to begin with?
Or were you all just either part of a grift
or did it really only bother you when you felt
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like your side was the one under attack. I don't know,
But the thing is, you do so question out there.
And by the way, I have tried to do a
really good job of staying off the internet the last day,
so I don't this is You're gonna have to take
my word for it. I don't know who I am
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or who I'm not talking about here. This isn't like
a subtweet directed at some single person. Far from it.
It's just my gut tells me that a lot of
the folks who have been like more than anything, first Amendment.
That's it, that's the most That's why it's first. Okay,
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there's a good test to that, and I'm curious for
everyone falls on it. With that said, demonse, welcome back in.
You want to talk Chiefs Giants.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
Let's talk Chiefs Giants. A big game for your boys
over there in their own head. Yeah, so they got
the Giants this Sunday. They are zero and two for
the first time in the Mahomes era they faced the Giants. Obviously,
they are one and eleven in the last twelve at
Met Life. What is at stake for Kansas City here?
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Well, I if they were to lose Sunday, I or
they're one and eleven in the last twelve night.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Game night games. So it Met Life.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Yeah, I was gonna say it wouldn't that was like that.
That number surprised me. I'm sure it's not that. I
wonder what their record is the Giants in their last
twelve last it can't be really good. Might be four
and eight, but one in eleven in the last twelve
night games. Here's the deal. If I'm being honest, I
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will not if they lose Sunday, I won't feel in
my bones that they can't rally and make the playoffs.
And if the Chiefs make the playoffs, I'm sure by
the you know, if they were to fall to Owen
three and then make the playoffs, I'm sure by the
time the playoffs are all around all really like their chances.
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But I am now saying sober minded before the game.
If they lose Sunday, it will signal that this team
is not a true contender the way every Chiefs team
has been since Mahomes got there, not because they can't
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rally from zero to three, but because if you can't
beat the New York Giants in a game, you've got
to have without and you should have Xavier Worthy back
for it. I would think, so the only super key
player you're missing is Rashi Rice, then you're not going
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to be good enough over the course of the season
to be a real super Bowl contender. So for Giants,
by the way, five and twelve at home since twenty
twenty three, So it's about what we would have thought.
So that's what's on the line. I have joked, not
really joked, that Mahomes has never had to play a
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meaningful regular season game, and that is a little hyperbolic,
but in fact, I think what I've said is Mahomes
has never lost a meaningful regular season game, and that
to me was literally true until two years ago when
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they actually had to go on the road in the playoffs.
With my argument having been the whole point of the
regular season is to get the best seat as possible
and to get home field in the playoffs. And if
the Chiefs have never gone on the road in the playoffs,
then none of the losses have ever hurt them. Two
years ago, when they did have to go on the
road in the playoffs, some of those losses I suppose
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did hurt them, but none of those games demons felt
like they had the stakes of Sunday Night that you can,
I think explain away. The first two weeks. Week one,
whole game plans thrown off by Worthy getting hurt. They
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you know, they they don't play well, they can't. Herbert's
playing out of his mind, you know. And the Chargers
win a neutral sight game okay, you know what I mean,
not what you'd hope for, but okay. Game two, the
Chiefs again can't really get the passing game going without
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their two star receivers or potential star receivers. Despite that,
and despite missing a kick and despite failing on a
fourth down early in the third quarter, they're on the
precipice of taking the lead and having control of the game.
And Kelsey makes a mistake. You know what, I mean,
and you're playing a great team in Philadelphia. Fine, again,
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not good and not excuses and not saying the Chiefs
deserve to win either game, but neither one of those
in a vacuum. If either one of those games had
happened in Week five or Week eight or week twelve,
no one be concerned about it. You know what I mean. Okay,
you lose a one score neutral site game to a
contender in the Chargers. You lose a three point hard
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fought game to the Eagles, so be it. Because they
happen in weeks one and two, and they're on the
heels of the Chiefs getting dog walked in the super Bowl.
It feels seismic, but in reality it's understandable. Losing to
the Giants this weekend would not be understandable. It would
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mean that they are there are some systemic issues with
the team for this season that are not fixable to
the tune of going on a Super Bowl run. And
so that's what's on the line for Kansas City in
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this game. I know you have some follow ups.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
Here, Yeah, are you still worried at all about the
pass rush and Russ coming off of probably his best
game or one of his best games in his career.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
Yeah, I mean, I don't know how you can. I
don't know how you cannot be worried about the pass rush,
to be totally honest with you, Like Chris Jones tends
to get better as this season goes along. I know
he's an older player. I still believe he's the best
de tackle in football. He hasn't been dominant the first
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two weeks, but I believe in Chris. The Carloftis just
got paid. Carloftis was a first round pick. Carloftis needs
to be better. And then the other guys Mike Dana
who's hurt now, Charles Amenahu who has been disappointing and
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been wholly ineffective thus far this season. And then you
have Ashton Gillette Jellette my apologies a rookie, Omar Norman rookie.
They've got to be able to create some type of
pressure without sending a blitz. With that said, I Russ
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having four hundred and fifty yards last week, to me,
does not play into this at all. Like I last week,
Russ was unbelievable. I don't think that was him all
of a sudden turning back the clock permanently. I think
that was him turning back the clock for an evening. Now,
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let me give you the bright side of if they win. Okay,
if they win, and I believe they will win, I
don't necessarily think it'll be pretty. I don't necessarily think
it'll be easy. But I am narrow deep confident they'll win.
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They win all of a sudden, they are playing a
Week four game to totally flip every narrative that's existed
thus far. Because you know who come to Kansas City
in Week four? Your Baltimore Ravens and the so the
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the what are you shaking your head about?
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Tell me, no, boys need to be worried.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
Oh the Chiefs need to be worried. Maybe, but but
just follow me down this path. The point I'm making
is the Chiefs then will have in front of them
the ability, if they win Sunday, to say, we win
this home game against a team we literally always beat,
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and they're the AFC contender everyone's worried about. We get
the whole people freaked out about the Chiefs. They had
this brutal opening schedule. You know, they dealt with an injury,
dealt with the suspension. They're two and two anyway, and
Baltimore leaves that game at best too and two, and
we'll see what happens in Baltimore Detroit on Monday night
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or I don't know if that's Monday or Sunday whatever,
Sunday night.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
They actually it is Monday, what I know.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
It's a night game. Oh no, the Chiefs Monday Sunday
night obviously, so it's Monday night. And maybe Baltimore is
the team everyone's freaking out about, right, And so certainly
if Baltimore loses to Detroit, people will be freaking out
if they fall to one and three, so they just
have the opportunity to turn the whole thing. It will
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not feel that way at all if they lose to
the Giants. If they lose to the Giants, they will
just feel like a bad team with a great quarterback.
And I don't believe that's what they are, but they
got to go prove it Sunday night.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
So you have seven teams above the Chiefs right now,
and the Tears.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
I know that has to kill you.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
Is this the worst that you felt about the Mahomes
the worst that you felt about the Chiefs in the
Mahomes era.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
No, the worst I felt about them was post It
was the twenty twenty one season. They had just gotten
annihilated by the Bucks in the Super Bowl, and that
next year, not only did they start three and four,
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but some ugly moments. Week one, they were playing Cleveland
and escaped with a win. Week two, Baltimore goes for
a fourth down late and beats them. Week three the Chargers,
if I beat them at the buzzer essentially, and then
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week five they get annihilated by the Bills. And then
week seven they get annihilated twenty seven to three by
the Titans. The Titans, and and so that team fell
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to three and four, and you know, at that point,
I guess you include the Super Bowl, had lost five
out of eight and it was up until that Super
Bowl against the Bucks, Mahomes had never lost a game
by more than eight points. And then all of a sudden,
they get blasted in the Super Bowl. They get beat
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by eighteen by Buffalo, they get beat by twenty four
by Tennessee, and a span of you know, two months
or two football months, that was the low point. Now
that team ended up going from three and four to
twelve and five, and then in the AFC Championship game
up twenty one to three at a half time before
that second half meltdown against Cincinnati. And that was the
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only year in this six year stretch they haven't made
the Super Bowl. But that was the worst I've ever
felt about them. This this so this the Giants.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
Okay, yeah, I was a let's say, with the Giants
win on Sunday, it's getting.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
Oh no, no, no. A Giants win puts us in totally
new territory.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
All right.
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get on to what actually might be. This might be
a better game than Detroit Baltimore. It's so certainly the
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best game of Sunday.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
That might be boring.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
We got a divisional round rematch between the Rams and Philly.
So if you think back to last year, this team
was twenty yards away from beating Philly. Who do you
think has more to prove this time come around?
Speaker 1 (25:17):
Which one might be boring? Are you saying.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
Detroit Philly Rams? Oh?
Speaker 1 (25:22):
Why would Philly Rams be boring?
Speaker 2 (25:24):
They might not throw the ball, dude.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
I mean they might go a little bit or do
with everything that they need to do to get the game.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
But I don't think it's going to be a light
show or anything like that.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
All Right, No, I agree with you. I don't think
this is going to be a recreation of Baltimore Buffalo
Week one, which, by the way, as did you hear
what I think it was? DraftKings said about that Week
one Baltimore Buffalo game. It was the single worst game
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for them, No, the single the single biggest loser for
them ever. Okay, because if you guys remember what I
talked about all the early money was Baltimore plus a
point and a half. All the late money was Buffalo
plus a point and a half. You then, so they
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lost both sides of it, with Buffalo winning by one.
You then add to it, demons, when when you have
that many touchdowns and that many points, nobody's betting unders
on player props. You know what I mean. People are
betting overs and touchdown scores, and in game betting, they're
betting underdogs live betting. You know, yeah, exactly right. So
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they said that was their single worst result ever. When
you put it all together, it's not surprising, all right,
Rams Eagles. Who has more to prove? This is tricky
because I think the Rams. I think the Ram the
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only team to beat the Rams. D I have this right,
I'm gonna double check. I think the only team to
beat the Rams when yeah, since week eleven of last year,
when when they've played their starters, is the m is Philadelphia,
and Philadelphia's beaten them twice. The Rams since week eleven
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of last year have beaten New England, New Orleans, Buffalo,
San Francisco, New York, Arizona, UH Minnesota, and then Houston, Tennessee.
And they're zero to two against Philly. So and this is,
you know, they're the defending NFC champs. Obviously they're defending
Super Bowl champs, so one would think the Rams Philly,
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on the other hand, has been really weird this year
because they are so unwilling to throw the ball and
when they do throw it, they are so unwilling to
throw it more than three yards past the line of scrimmage.
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And the only reason I feel that this has not
and this is understandable, this has not been more of
a story is like where aj Brown is really upset
is because they're winning. Like, do I think had Kelsey
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held onto that ball and the Eagles were or Ceedee
Lamb held onto that ball and the Eagles lost either
one of these games, would AJ Brown be as okay
publicly as he's been with the fact that they're just
not getting him the ball. They won't throw the ball
down the field.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
Do I think a lingering, lurking potential story is could
Mike Vrabel, the head coach of the New England Patriots,
try to make a play before the deadline for the
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player he used to have in Tennessee who a lot
of people believe what fractured his relationship with the Titans.
Was the Titans trading away AJ Brown to Philadelphia? Do
I think that is possible if things go a little
awry for the Eagles? I do do. I think that
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while Jailing, to his credit, clearly does not care how
it looks as long as they win, that that might
not be how everyone feels.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
I think J Brown is, like, could selfishly be hoping
that they lose the game. No, no, no, no, I don't
think that.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
I think AJ Brown is hoping you throw me the
damn ball that I get to show everyone, remind everyone
how good I am. I just don't know that they're
gonna do that, right, I also think yeah. And but
here's what's interesting about the Eagles thus far this year.
Last year, it was really hard to complain about the
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Eagles anything because after Week four last year, they didn't
lose a single time. When Jalen played and Saquon was
breaking records every weekend running, the offense looked amazing. This year,
that is not the case. Saquan's been relatively bottled up
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each of the two weeks, and the offense has looked
stuck in the mud. The other The other interesting factor
here is in a week when the Tush Push has
been so in the news the while the past ers
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we're at the forefront of trying to get the Toush
Push band with Matt Lafleur, the vice president of that movement,
with Sean McVey, and Sean McVay was on the record
who said, he goes listen, I'm probably just a hater
because we can't stop it. But I also don't, you know,
don't like how it looks, don't like it, wanted to
have it banned. So I think there are a lot
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of really juicy storylines in this game. I also think
these are two great teams. Here is my concern. If
I'm Philly or potentially great teams, I should say, what
are we doing with the receiver that Quinnon Mitchell isn't on,
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Like Puka and Davante, one of them isn't gonna have
quinnyon Mitchell on him and Adri Jackson ain't the answer.
And so I find that I cannot wait for this game.
We'll see if it's one of my picks in our
gambling show. If it were to be one of my picks,
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I would be going with the Rams plus the points
because I think the Rams absolutely can win and I
think there was a lot of emotional There could be
some emotional fatigue for Philly after that Chiefs game and
all of a sudden where they're having to defend their
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beloved push push to the media because folks are finally
picking up on that. They're lined up off sides almost
every single time, and they jump most of the time.
And so that is and listen back to back Philly's
opening season schedule, Brutal Cowboys, Chiefs, Rams Bucks. Now two
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and zero is the best you can hope for Rams Bucks,
really tough ones, really interested in seeing them both. See
if it's one of my picks. In a bit, let's
get to the other game of the weekend, except it's
Monday night.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
Yeah, so my Ravens are facing off the Lions on
Monday Night. Now, both these teams are coming off of
dominant Week two performances or top three in points per
game this year. Both of them were staring at one and.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
Two with the loss. Though who needs this game more?
Speaker 1 (33:17):
I think it's Baltimore because they have the Chiefs next,
and because I don't think Baltimore is ready to punt,
not that they would be punting on it, but ready
to punt on the one seed. And what the Lions
know is after this game they have the Browns and
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then the Bengals without Joe Burrow. So the Lions, even
with the loss and they're on the road, can steady
themselves a bit. Baltimore, on the other hand, beating the
Browns is nice, but it doesn't make you feel great.
It's just like, Okay, we beat the Browns, bolt and
I don't care how shaky the Chiefs look. Everyone on
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that Baltimore team has had trouble beating Kansas City their
whole career. And so this is a home game at
night against the Lions team that when they played one
of the big Boys, got dominated. That twenty seven to
thirteen Packer game was not as close as that score suggests.
That game was twenty seven to six and green Bay
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coasted home and Isaac Teslat made one of his two
amazing catches this season, and they got you know, they
made it, I guess somewhat respectable. I'm also you know,
Derrick Henry has had one of the best games of
his career and then followed it up with one of
the worst games of his career. So I find that,
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you know, fascinating going into it. This is your team, Demanse,
what's your confidence level going into this game.
Speaker 3 (34:56):
Oh, I'm pretty confident. I'd say like out of a ten,
it'd be like eight, eight or nine. I think the
Lions are a good team, but I think we'll take
care of business.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
I am.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
Here's my concern for Baltimore. I don't love at all
the back end of their defense. I like Kyle Hamilton.
The rest of it to me is question marks. And
now last year that was the case. Early in the
year and the second half of the year they were unbelievable.
They clearly thought it might be a need. They went
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out and got Jayurr Alexander He's a healthy scratch.
Speaker 2 (35:32):
Week two. It was weird.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
They were like, he's not listed on the injury report,
but this is injury related, but either way, he's inactive.
The Lions, if they can protect golf, they just have
so many weapons. And Jamison Williams, even though he's first
team All Knucklehead, is a hard guy to deal with. Obviously,
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Aman Ross Saint Brown's great, Gibbs is great, Laporte is
really good. I it feels like a game that if
Baltimore can't get there with four, Detroit is going it's
to be able to move the ball and that this
is going to be a shootout, which I guess. Go
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ahead and listen. DeAndre Hopkins has made three catches this year,
it should have been three touchdowns, one who was ruled
down at the half yard line. Zay Flowers, who I've
never been a huge believer in, has looked really good.
And Lamar's playing like there's no I mean, that's you know,
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that's almost a given at this point. But Lamar is,
even by his standards, really playing great football, and so no,
I think this.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
Would be a quarterback passer ready.
Speaker 3 (36:46):
Ever he's got yeah, he just right.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
It was Mahomes. Mahomes then dipped a bit, Rogers took
it back, and now Lamar's ahead of both of them. Now,
by the way, contractually obligated to remind the audience if
it's career quarterback passer rating regular season plus the playoffs,
Mahome still has the record for regular season, only it's Lamar's.
And I know this is the highest total of the weekend.
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to to me, this is an overgame, and I just
think that this feels to me like thirty one twenty
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All right, demonse, let's get to tonight's game.
Speaker 2 (39:30):
Uh yes, So everybody's expecting tonight to be a blowout.
Speaker 3 (39:33):
I think it's a well, I don't think it's Buffalo
minus twelve or twelve point favorites. Everybody's expecting this to
be a pivotal game for Mike McDaniel's career. Now they're
going to have some time with them playing the following
Monday or I guess the next next Monday, so they'll
be able to fire him.
Speaker 2 (39:49):
How does this game. Need to look for McDaniel to
keep his job. What are you expecting here?
Speaker 1 (39:54):
Listen? If they get embarrassed. I do think he could
be the rare coach fired in September. That to me
is almost always a process mistake, Like if you didn't
want to fire a coach in the offseason, only giving
him three games to me is usually pretty ridiculous. But
it's been really ugly in Miami. Week one was as
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bad as it gets, and then Week two is kind
of a heart wrenching loss that you could have won.
They can't get embarrassed tonight. Now, what I will tell
you about tonight's game is the Bill's injury report that
I saw yesterday, which obviously is the last one of
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the week. Gave me pause. Okay, the Bill's injuries are
all on the defensive side of the ball, and it's important.
Guys Ed Oliver listed as out, Matt Mulano listed as out, Taranjahnson,
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and Cam Lewis listed as questionable, with Shaq Thompson listed
as questionable. Now, the only noteworthy dolphin that's listed as
out to me is Darren Waller. Obviously, storm Duck and
one of their safeties is also out. I think Waller
is probably the biggest loss of the three, maybe Storm Duck,
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but Storm Duck honestly is probably just people know him
because he's got a sick name, not necessarily because he's
a great player. This is going to be a very
popular Survivor pick. If people are betting Survivor on Thursdays,
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they Josh Allen has absolutely owned Tua and the Dolphins.
All we know all of this, and the Bills should
blow them out.
Speaker 2 (41:55):
They just should.
Speaker 1 (41:58):
The defensive injuries for Buffalo concerned me a bit because
what we do know is if Toua has time and
you can't disrupt the rhythm of the offense, that offense
can be really good. And so.
Speaker 2 (42:20):
In New England, yeah.
Speaker 1 (42:22):
Right, he had the terrible pick late and he also
you know, took the sack late like it ended terribly,
but you saw how potent that offense in theory can
be intermittently in that game. And so I would not
bet this game either way. I certainly think thirty five
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to ten Buffalo is on the board, But is there
a is there a chance that at the end of
the first quarter this is fourteen nothing Miami and then
Buffalo is like fighting its way back the rest of
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the way. It it's Thursday, which is adds some weird
stuff to it. Is this me just wish casting, because
you know, I want the Chiefs not to be eliminated
from the one seed conversation by the end of September. Maybe,
But those bills injuries concern me just enough that I'm
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going to give Miami a puncher's chance in this game.
I also think that Tua saying, and I don't know
if we talked about this on this show yet, Tua
saying like I can't run or throw like Josh was unfortunate.
Like that's just like Tua gave a quote like he
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were a backup quarterback stepping in rather than a guy
who's paid like he's a superstar. Right, And yeah, well,
I mean now got to play him. He's the guy
you gotta go through every year.
Speaker 3 (44:03):
Yeah, Like, yeah, I didn't.
Speaker 1 (44:06):
I didn't love that at all. All right, let's go
to Bears Cowboys.
Speaker 2 (44:10):
All right? Game of the Week with Dallas and Chicago.
Speaker 3 (44:14):
The Cowboys are coming off that forty point ot win
and the Bears have allowed the most points in the
league so far.
Speaker 1 (44:21):
Yeah, and just real quick, both NFC offensive player of
the Week through two weeks has been the two quarterbacks
to play the Bears, JJ McCarthy and then Jared goff.
I listen the Bears, Everyone's going to focus on Caleb.
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They allowed fifty two points. Man Like Caleb, I thought
was fine in Week two. He wasn't great, he wasn't terrible.
It wasn't their problem. If the Bears lose this game,
I you can, in my opinion, put a nail in
their play Coffin. So the AFC upper class might still
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be the best of the two conferences, but the NFC
middle class is so much deeper this year than the
AFCs that I just don't think you can recover from
zero to three. I am more interested actually in this
is can Dallas's offense put on the type of performance
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where we say, you know what, we have to take
them seriously as a team that's got a you know,
a very real chance of making the postseason. Dallas's offense
in Week one against Philly moved the ball at will
until the weird hour long weather delay, and then was
still moving the ball, but Ceedee Lamb was dropping it.
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Week two, obviously, Dallas's offense was unstoppable. If Dak puts
up another huge game, then I think that and they
get to two and one with the one loss being
to the Eagles, then I think you do have to
start saying hold on. Like they've been able to run
the ball, they've been able to do whatever they want
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on offense, and you look at their upcoming schedule next
week home against the Packers, even if you pencil that
in as a loss at the Jets at the Panthers
after that, if they win this game, they have a
very decent chance to be four and two through six games,
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having already played four road games like that's something, and
so not blowing that game against the Giants was huge.
I actually am more interested, believe it or not, in
the Dallas side of this than I am.
Speaker 2 (46:50):
The h.
Speaker 3 (46:52):
Well completely, I want to see what Dallas has in store.
Speaker 1 (47:00):
The games have to matter, man, I can't. I can't
like pretend I'm you know, I've been optimistic about what
I've seen from the Bears. I think Kale has been fine,
but he hasn't been sensational, and the team right now
has looked like a mess. They created a way to
lose Week one, and they got fifty bald Week two.
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All right, demons, let's get to packers Browns please.
Speaker 3 (48:15):
Well, they've had arguably the best starts of the season
of anybody, with dominant wins over Detroit and Washington. Here's
a couple of numbers. There are number one in the
NFC Super Bowl odds. Love is number three at for
MVP and Micah is number one for Defensive Player of
the Year.
Speaker 2 (48:33):
Is this is all this too much? Hyper? Do you
think this is legit?
Speaker 1 (48:38):
Listen, I said it after the Mica trade. I'll say
it again. The most interesting player in the NFL this
year is Jordan Love. They have all the pieces. If
Love can just be steady, there's no reason they shouldn't
be not only a real contender, but be awesome all year.
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And he's been steady. I don't think he's been sensational.
I think he's been steady and that's all. You know
what I mean, That's that's fine. He has Coach Mangini
had this stat I couldn't believe it. Like Jordan Love
only has five games in his career with a passer
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rating between eighty five and ninety nine, which are like
solid good not great games. Every other game the passer
rating's either been eighty four or below or one hundred
and above. So he really is he epitomizes the old
Josh Allen roller coaster stuff and right, and so I
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really like what they have in Green Bay, and I.
Speaker 3 (49:47):
Really recuvenated them. They just seem very happy over there, excited.
Speaker 1 (49:52):
Such a great player, man. Yeah, and it's just it is.
His impact is felt every plays on the field, and
I think that they are going to really put it
on the Browns this weekend and the and so we
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will well spoiler alert, that's gonna be part of our
pick show on Friday. All right, last game we're getting
to before we get to listener questions.
Speaker 3 (50:23):
So the Chargers have a chance to start three and
zero if they go in here and beat Denver, and
that will be three divisional wins for them, and they
are in the Chiefs division, as we all know. Are
you secretly rooting for the Broncos this week?
Speaker 1 (50:38):
It is better for the Chiefs if the Broncos win,
that's for sure. If that's the question, like, I'd rather
you know, because if the Broncos win, then the Chiefs
are all of a sudden, only a game out of
first place.
Speaker 2 (50:52):
Right.
Speaker 1 (50:52):
If the Chargers win, then yes, you don't have to Like,
the Chiefs are tied with the Broncos assuming they beat
the Giants, but the Chargers have that separation. The thing
is this, I'm not worried about the Broncos, so that
being tied with the Broncos doesn't really matter because I
think the Broncos are gonna find some more losses along
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the way. The Chargers have just looked awesome, and I
thought they looked defensively. Defensively, they've looked like the best
team in the league. Now. I talked about it on Tuesday.
I didn't love some of the game management stuff late
in that game. And they're gonna miss Khalil Mack. By
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the way, I sent this to the group chat, Khalil
Mack listed or according to you know the NFL Injury
Insiders is going to miss quote or it will be
back in quote a few weeks. I'm gonna go ahead
and plant my flag right now that week eight is
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the absolute soonest he'll be back, and I probably would
take after that like a few again, whatever the initial
reporting is. But you know about the injury, add a
few weeks to it and that kind of is exponential,
where like Burrow three months season over Khalil Mack a
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few weeks, six weeks. So that's not good. Obviously, that
injury and Herbert getting banged up a bit's not good.
But I just don't I think bo Nicks is gonna
really really struggle against that Charger defense, Is it at all?
Speaker 3 (52:33):
Allowing to you that have been Patrick Mahomes had the
same quarterback rating right now our past ratings.
Speaker 1 (52:37):
I don't like it, Yeah, I don't like it. Yeah,
I will be honest with you. I don't like it.
But I think that'll change.
Speaker 2 (52:44):
All right.
Speaker 1 (52:44):
Let's get to some of the listener questions from Tuesday
and then from today.
Speaker 2 (52:49):
Joe asked, how was the steakhouse opening? Nick? Did you
meet Taylor? Did you meet Taylor?
Speaker 1 (52:53):
No? So I went Friday. It was great. It was
really really good. They did an awesome job. It's like
a traditional steakhouse with a bunch of Chiefs or Kansas
City kind of flares to it, which I thought was
really cool. It's the same restaurant group that owns Toka Madera,
which you may you know they have restaurants in a
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few cities, but I know the one in Aria. Friday,
the Chiefs were, I know Patrick was going to be there.
They ended up not going Friday. They went Sunday for
Patrick's birthday with he and Travis and Taylor and Brittany
and all of them. So I was not there for that,
So no, I did not. I did not get to
meet Taylor. That would have been nice, but I did not.
Speaker 3 (53:36):
All right, now, I saw your I saw that Mahomes
tribute birthday video for a second when I got to
a minute and a half, and I was like, is
is he going to be in here?
Speaker 2 (53:44):
Is he not going to be?
Speaker 1 (53:44):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (53:45):
Yeah, I did, And then you came up with like
two minute market.
Speaker 1 (53:48):
Yeah, the Chiefs released like a five minute happy Birthday
to Mahomes video with a bunch of people being a
part of it.
Speaker 2 (53:54):
I was a part of that. That's right.
Speaker 3 (53:55):
Oh so, Nico asked, if Herbert continues playing like this
but he loses his first playoff game, does his stock
rise into the elite level or does he drop with
what would be a considerable sample of bad January.
Speaker 1 (54:07):
Play Listen, if Herbert keeps this up and then loses
his first playoff game, that's a disaster. Like Herbert right
now is firmly in the MVP conversation, like the I
actually think that's worse than just a bad season, like,
because I think you are right so that that would
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be a worst case scenario for Herbert and Herbert and
Danny Parkins and Herbert fans. All right, let's get some
of the questions from today.
Speaker 3 (54:39):
Uh, Kafreaka asked, would Kansas City rather lose to the
Giants and beat Baltimore or beat the Giants and lose
to Baltimore.
Speaker 1 (54:46):
I mean, you'd rather lose to the Giants and beat
Baltimore because it's a cross conference game. But I can't.
I won't be able to stomach the idea that they
lose to the Giants, Like I can't even I can't
even deal with that idea. All right, last.
Speaker 3 (55:03):
One, Jason says, Nick, you joked on the show yesterday
that the Chiefs game this week would be a shave
your head game. We actually shave your head if the
Chiefs lose.
Speaker 1 (55:13):
It's very controversial because the no one close to me
wants me to go back to my old haircut except
for your mother, Demanse.
Speaker 2 (55:22):
And like all like Mike buzzcut.
Speaker 1 (55:27):
Close to it. Yeah and uh, and I'm getting a
little tired of the hair. But it is at this point.
It would be a lot of work for a lot
of people if I were to do it, because we
have to redo all of the first things, first commercials,
all of the head shots, we have to rebrand every
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like I'm kind of like pot committed to this hairstyle now,
So I don't know the I would like to go
back to it.
Speaker 2 (55:58):
Chiefs super Bowl as you've been growing this hair out.
Speaker 1 (56:02):
That part's true. Yeah, you know you know what. That
part's true. So I don't know what it is. I've
been trying to get Wilds to make a shave your
head bat because he would be so devastated if you
have to shave his and I wouldn't mind, but he
won't do it, all right, I would like that would
be unbelievable. Wild with a skin fade like rate. Subscribe
review our pick show coming up on Friday. Demandays Can't
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Speaker 2 (56:37):
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