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Nick Wright reacts to rumors of Bill Belichick walking away from North Carolina less than a year into his college coaching debut. Next, Nick Wright previews a drama-filled Week 6 of the NFL season, starting with AJ Brown’s irritation with Jalen Hurts and the Philadelphia Eagles. Then, Nick lays out what is on the line for his Kansas City Chiefs and Patrick Mahomes in a primetime battle with Jared Goff and the Detroit Lions. After, Nick debates if QB battles are looming with the San Francisco 49ers between Brock Purdy & Mac Jones as well as with the Cleveland Browns now that Shedeur Sanders is QB2 behind Dillon Gabriel. Nick also discusses the MLB Playoffs after the Toronto Blue Jays eliminated the New York Yankees. Later, Nick and Damonza answer your questions. #Volume
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome in We're Driving the Great Episode three seventy six.
As always, this episode is presented to you by boost
Mobile a ton to do. As Major League Baseball playoffs
are in full swing. I was in attendance for Game
three Yankees Blue Jays and listen, I gotta say that
(00:25):
Judge home run. And credit to the Blue Jays, they
were the better team all series. They dominated the Yankees
in that series. They deserve to move on. But that
Judge home run was one of the most electric in
person moments I've ever been a part of. And I
didn't even like I didn't have an investment in the
(00:46):
game except the fact that if the Yankees won, I
got the next day off from work because we were preempted.
But him coming through in that moment and oddly demonse,
it made me feel like you should feel better about
(01:07):
one day Lamar having a similar postseason moment.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
For real, like, just make it all that much sweeter.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Yeah, Judge had been has been in a his It's
not an over exaggeration to say a historically great regular
season player with the numbers and the accolades to back
that up. Truly one of the greatest players of not
(01:37):
just his generation, but any generation. He's in that class
who had year in year out, played some of his
worst baseball in the postseason. And I understand for the Yankees,
you know, it's another year without a World Series sixteen.
Now it's it's a year where they, you know, don't
even make the ALCS as a team. It's disappointing. But
(02:00):
Judge was phenomenal start to finish of this playoff run,
and that three run bomb to tie the game and
keep their season alive was all time. It was really
really all time. We're gonna obviously spend a lot of
time today on Week six in the NFL. Tomorrow we
will get into our gambling show, where again the story
(02:26):
of our gambling show this season has been I go
two and three every week, Demande hits his teaser every week. Sadly,
that's basically I haven't quite gone two and three every week.
I went three and two once or twice. But I've
been doing decidedly below mediocre, and Demonte's been crushing on
(02:48):
the teasers, including a teaser that he didn't actually put
on the show, but he did bet so really he's
five and one on these ridiculous eight points. I ain't
three teamers that he just can't lose on. Also, I
am not yet ready to dive in to the NBA.
(03:10):
I know preseason's going on, and that also means I
am not going to even though this will make our
YouTube overlords very unhappy and some of the data and
analytics people in charge of this pod unhappy because this
(03:31):
would do numbers, But I just don't have the time, energy,
or urge right now to respond to the single most
high profile person in sports media saying paraphrasing essentially, but
saying that if a forty soon to be forty one
year old player in year twenty three has a bad game,
(03:54):
I'm going to assume he might be drunk. I'm not
going to entertain that commentary. And I did funny thing
real quick before we get into the full show. So
the whole bit demonse that I did about how anybody
(04:14):
being fooled by Lebron's tweet was a dope. I was
on Lebotard show yesterday and he asked me about it,
and I basically did the same bit that Lebron's tweet
was an IQ test that you if you got fooled
by it, you're a dummy. And what I didn't know
(04:40):
was that Lebotard had been oh, this whole I go,
I do this whole brand. And then Dan just very calmly,
he's like, well, he's like, so Nick's calling me an
idiot to my face, and I and listen, Dan's the greatest.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
I have great relationship for him.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
No, I love him, but I think and he's a
good enough sport. I think he thought I knew that
I was talking about him, but I didn't know I
was talking about generals. I would have been a little
nicer with it, or I would have attempted to be
funnier with it and directly make fun of him in
(05:25):
a lighthearted way. Instead, I just very matter of factly,
was like, if you thought he was announcing his retirement,
I don't think you're a very smart person. And then
after I got done saying that, Dan was like, well,
I was one of those people. So that wasn't great.
But we recovered. All right, let's get to straight. The
voicemail brought to you by boost Mobile. Jonathan Gannon find
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one hundred grand for hitting de Marcado on the sideline.
Jerry Jones find quarter of a million dollars for his
obscene gesture people are gonna look at those as portionate.
The Yeah, and Jerry was like I tried to go
thumbs up.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
I went middle finger.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
The problem is there is a precedent owner. Oddly, there
is a we have been through the owner flipping off
fans thing. It was Bud Adams with the Titans like
fifteen years ago. So the fine was a quarter of
a million then, so it's got to be a quarter
of a million now. It also kind of means Jerry
got off cheap because of inflation and all that stuff.
(06:29):
I do. We didn't really talk much much about it.
The Jonathan Gannon thing. To me, I I don't think
i'd fire him because of it, so I think one
hundred k is the right amount. But I did think
it was a terrible look and I do wonder how
(06:52):
correct how the locker room he's gonna respond and the Yannest.
Here's what I'll say about the Yiannis trade rumors. Quickly.
Did you see the report about his family?
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Yeah, like they went back, they want to go back
to Athens. His wife preferred to be out there.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
His wife and kids are going to live in Athens.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Yeah, that was not to me.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
An unrelated story to Yanni's potentially leaving Milwaukee.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
And playing in his hometown.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
No, no, no, no, no, In that I listen, I'm
sure Yannis is spread in Athens is sick, and Athens
is you know, I've never been to Greece, but I've
kind of nothing but amazing things about how beautiful it
is and the weather and the food and the people
all that. So I'm sure it's great. But do I
(07:52):
think that his you know, Kevin O'Connor pointed out that
the only US city with direct flights to Athens is
New York City. I think it's Newark.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
It might be JFK.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
But either way that that's something. But do I also
think that is that are there may be American cities
that provide more of the things Athens provides than Milwaukee.
That if Jannis we're playing in the family would be
back there because this is the NBA season, buddy, is long,
(08:32):
and to have your wife and four young children halfway
around the world is enrolled in school over there, that's jarring.
And so I found that story to be a kind
of tied to Jannie's potential future in Milwaukee, Like I.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Think that always has them on eggshells over there in Milwaukee.
I feel like he's.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
Correct, but and like he also seems like a real
family guy. Yeah, and if he was borderline unhappy in
Milwaukee already, how is it going to play now that
he's after practice just going home by himself. Like, that's
a tough one. And so that is to me something
(09:21):
to watch, all right. Reminder everybody like grate subscribe, subscribe
review to the pod. Also, one last thing for it,
we get to the Belichick thing. I was going to
give you this compliment privately, but I'm gonna give it
to you publicly, and privately i'll give you more details
on it. I watched a pod recently I'm not gonna
(09:44):
name names here, privately I will, and it had a
very similar dynamic where there was the main host whose
name is on it, who is the person that people know,
and then the person who sets things up plays in
your role seemingly was either friends or family.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
With the host.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Okay, like you know that that's the connection. And I've
actually now seen two pods like this, but one in particular.
And if you have any insecurity or whatever about how
good of a job you are or aren't doing, I'm
gonna have you watch this other pod. You're crushing it,
(10:29):
bro compared to your compared to your contemporaries, the people
in the same role who like got put on because like, hey,
the guy who's show it is wants to do it
with them. Like if those are if those aren't, Just
like I've talked about my media rivals, If those are
your rivals, you're killing the game. So feel good about it.
(10:52):
Pale all right, like Brass Tribe review to the pod
before we get to NFL Week six, I want to
talk about Bill Belichick. Let's get to it.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
So, Yeah, things have not been going well over there
in u NC for Bill Belichick. They are off to
a two and three start, and there's even talks of
the documentary being canceled, but I think that's actually canceled.
And there's there's other talks of Bill Belichick initiating his
own million million dollar buyout. You wanted to talk about this.
Things are looking rough for Bill.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
Yeah, so listen. I think that it is noteworthy what
Ali Connolly is saying. So you guys might be like,
who is Oli Connolly? People that listen to NFL Daily
Greg Rosenthal's Great Pod are familiar with Ali Connolly He
(11:40):
also has a sub stack in a newsletter called The
Read Optional. I think he also is involved in some
of in but he's in the UK.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
He's a.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
He's in the UK. I don't know if he's British.
If he's Irish, I'm not sure. I think he's British.
I know that that's one you don't want to get wrong.
My apologies regardless. The reason I am mentioning it is
he was the guy who broke Belichick to North Carolina,
and people initially like one of the reasons they it
didn't get taken as gospel initially was because it's like,
(12:17):
why is this guy in the UK breaking this story?
But he had it first by a lot. So he
then yesterday sent out the following tweet thread that I
want to read to the audience again. The guy who
first had Belichick to Carolina told us this. Bill Belichick
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has discussed buyout options with North Carolina's hierarchy. Belichick has
signaled a willingness to trigger his own million dollar buyout
if he can find a soft landing with another team
or in media he goes on. Members of Belichick's coaching
staff have already spoken to other schools that are expected
(13:07):
to be in the College Football Playoff about taking on
roles during the postseason. From one coach quote, the rats
are leaving the ship end quote. Some staffers believe a
change will come within two weeks. Reports of serious recruiting
violations remain under investigation at UNC. Recruiting and practice violations
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have already been proven by the school, according to multiple sources,
Using recruiting violations to knock down a coach's buyout has
become a standard practice. If Belichick cannot find a landing
spot to trigger his own buyout, he's expected to accept
a greatly reduced compromised rate. More on that in a second.
I'll explain it. Belichick's community Back to Dolly Connolly. Belichick's
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communication with his staff in the past two weeks has
been described as weird and distant by multiple members of
UNC's coaching staff. Multiple coaches were unable to get a
hold of him during un c's bye week last week.
From one UNC defensive assistant, what we've done to these
kids is eft up end of tweet threat. So let
(14:20):
me just give a little explanation about the buyout stuff,
so people understand. If Belichick gets fired, they owe him
like twenty million. If Belichick leaves on his own accord
one thought, potentially for another job, they Belichick or whoever's
(14:41):
hiring him has to pay one million. What Ali is
reporting is that it is now on the board that
Belichick pays that million himself just to bounce, just to
be out of there, or if that doesn't happen, if
(15:02):
he doesn't have you know, like they said soft landing,
that he agrees to a greatly reduced number off that
twenty million. But what Ali Connelly is reporting, the too
long didn't read version is this thing's already over If
you already have coaches talking about who they're going to
(15:23):
coach this year's playoffs, it's over there. And that would
be we have talked about like can Belichick, is it fair?
Can your legacy ever go backwards? In sports? Right? Like
all Let's say bron was in year twenty five and
(15:50):
averaged three points a game and was terrible, Like, would
that be fair to hold against him? And my general
rule has always been you shouldn't. You should not be
penalized for continuing to do something if like, if your
legacy was here, I'm putting my hand if you're listening,
(16:13):
up to my eyebrows, basically, and if you quit, it
was going to end there. Then continuing to play your coach.
It doesn't necessarily have to raise it, but you shouldn't
go backwards, right. There are rare instances, though, where it
feels like people do go backwards. I think Russell Wilson
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posts Seattle. I think he went backwards a little. I
think of Russell Wilson after when Seattle had said I'm retiring,
and we never saw him be bad. We never saw
him on awful teams, We never saw teams repeatedly move
on from him. We would hold him in a probably
higher light. For Belichick, for the the thing at Carolina.
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I didn't think he needed to be great there. But
the fact that they are yet to beat a Power
five school. The three legitimate teams they've played have beaten
them by an average of twenty six points per game,
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and they are averaging on scoring themselves eleven points per game,
and he might just be ready to call it holy
smokes man. I it is unfathomable that it would have
gone on this wrong, this gone this wrong, And I
(17:49):
say this with all sincerity. It is a bit of
a lesson and not just Hubris. But in what can
happen if you only surround yourself with acolytes and with
yes men like the GM is Lombardi whose whole the
(18:13):
only you know, the only relevance he has left in
the NFL and in football is his relationship with Belichick.
I don't listen, I don't relish saying that for me.
I don't know how much of the audience knows this.
But when I started with Fox, I did a three
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time a week, two time a week for a full
football season podcast where it was just me and Mike Lombardi.
It's called make Me Smarter. I mean, I know the guy,
but I get fair is fair. I have to call
it what it is like. In the last decade, his
connection to pro football has been his connection to Belichick.
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Lombardi's kid is on the coaching staff. Both of belichick
kids are on the coaching staff. They they have they
have not. There is not a lot of new ideas
coming in. They seemingly did a very poor job in
the transfer portal. And I mean there was the quote
I wish I could tell.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
You where I saw going against the integrity of the game.
But their recruiting process and all that, like, he's it
sounds like they were kind of cheating a little bit.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
Well, so that so that listen, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
I how much of that is true or.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
Yeah, I don't know enough yet about the recruiting violations.
And I also, to be totally honest, don't even know
what's legal and what's illegal in college, Like I don't
even know what, Like it seems like I don't know
how you could break the rules these days, like and
so that part of it is odd, but set that aside.
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There was a quote from a coach of a non
power five square last week that said, yeah, I knew
North Carolina was going to be screwed because they were
recruiting all the same players we were. He's like, whenever
there's a team that is recruiting all of the guys
we're after, I know that team is not going to
be able to compete at the top level, but they
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so they and that sounds mean from the coach, but
that coaches. Again, I'm not saying what school exact because
I don't know, but he's saying he's coaching a small
school and so they should not be going after this.
North Carolina should be able to get elite players and
did again. I don't want I don't want to put
(20:40):
you on the spot here, but you had a friend
or someone you knew.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
Yeah he was, but he he ended up going to Colorado,
but he he Yeah, he went on, did the whole process.
I think he was going to do it, but you know,
playing at Colorado this year.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
Okay, So, but he was recruited by Belichick's crew. Yeah,
as a transfer student. Right, he wasn't a graduating senior.
He was transferring somewhere, right, Those seventy kids that transferred
into North Carolina did.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
It yeah for Bill. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
And if we are five games in and they're already
talking buyout and just giving up, that's pathetic, man. And
I do think that. And I try to always be
consistent and honest on this.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
I so.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
The revisionist history that some folks do, acting as if
those first three Super Bowls weren't teams that were led
by the defense into which Belichick was in charge of.
I'm not down for that. And the final Super Bowl
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they held the Sean McVeigh, Todd Gurley Good, Jared goff
Rams to three points. So I am not going to
act like Belichick was carried by Tom Brady. I don't
think that is the case at all. I think they
both helped each other greatly. But I'm also not going
to act like.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
That.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
The last half decade has not been an abject disaster
for Bill. He's stopped being able to draft, he made
outrageous coaching staff decisions, his personal life became very public
and a legitimate distraction. All the bridges with New England
(22:50):
seem to have been burnt. And now he goes to
North Carolina and we're talking about it being over already.
That's a train wreck. And there is not yet any coach,
any modern coach Demons that has a close enough resume
(23:12):
to Belichick's to start a reel who's the best coach ever?
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Debate?
Speaker 1 (23:19):
But if we get you know, Andy is the obvious
one that has a shot. But I but I'm not
trying to make this about the Chiefs. I'm not even
really trying to make this about Andy. The point I'm
making is this, if somebody gets close how it is
ending for Bill will hurt him. The fact that it
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was just rank incompetence across the board. The moment Tom
left even will make people do something that I think
is unfair, as I said a moment ago, which is
start to put a bit of a curve negative curve
on what he did with Tom, and so I normally
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would not.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
Leading with this. All this was with Tom and then
like every single thing he did after that.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
It's been a disaster. It's and so and again.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
But the thing was is him trying to recover on that.
It's like, oh, I went to college, look at what
I did and.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
Correct or and that's one of the reasons he wanted
to go to another NFL team to show he could
do it. And so it will just like again just
to bring up the Andy piece of it, like Andy
had an awesome run without Patrick Mahomes, you know, like
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double digit playoff appearances, went to a super Bowl, multiple
conference championship appearances, all like they it didn't get to
the top of the mountain. But was an excellent coach
without Patrick. Now he had Donovan mcnabby and Mike Vick.
He had good It's not like he had terrible quarterbacks.
Obviously had really really good quarterbacks. And so it's not
(25:12):
an apples to apples comp I'm not acting like it is.
But and nobody cares about like where did Vince Lombardi. See,
you know how I know nobody cares. I don't even
remember like Vince Lombardi did he finish with the Saints,
the oh no, Washington, Washington for a year, Like people
(25:35):
don't tend to care about, you know, the final chapter
of an all time legend if it even if it
doesn't go well. But this has gone so horrifically, Like
nobody does the audience remember what Bill Parcell's final stop was,
(25:57):
and it was the Dolphins. But he wasn't the head coach.
He was the you know, basically the guy in charge
of everything, and so people don't people don't typically hold
that stuff against you. But this is such a train
wreck that and I, by the way, I believe Ali Connolly.
(26:21):
If Ali Connelly says this could happen in the next
couple of weeks, This could happen in the next couple weeks.
And what I think is now locked and why it's
worth discussing and then we'll move on. I think it is.
I think it is now minus one thousand that Belichick
is not the head coach of North Carolina next year,
which leads us to this, and then I promise we
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will move on I guess he's just not gonna coach again.
Like if the NFL was leary of him after the
Patriots stint, then I guess this is just how it ends.
What a crummy ending, man.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
And hey, if you they just start winning games.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
They're not good. I mean, I don't think they recruited
the right players. I don't think they And it seems
like there was an article on w R A L Yeah,
which is like the A rally Raleigh the city in
North Carolina? Is it Raleigh Rally? I'm gonna pronounce it wrong, Raleigh,
I think. BUTMANI used to live there. The that uh
(27:36):
about the dysfunction and the infighting amongst players about It's
a bad situation.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
Man.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
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Speaker 2 (29:53):
The Eagles are heading to the met Life them and
the Giants are coming off a loss. Herts and Saquon
kind of downplay in the converse they had with aj
Brown Sakwon, kind of saying that it shouldn't have gotten
out or it should have stayed between the two, the
three of them. I guess, is there anything that the
Eagles can do to kind of quiet the noise?
Speaker 1 (30:11):
Yes, play a normal game. I mean, you're gonna have
a standalone national TV audience against a bad Giants team.
Can you just play a normal game? Handle your business,
have a nice mix of running pass, not this bipolar
(30:33):
offense half to have, Like, I don't some of this
stuff for Philly, I have to say is self inflicted.
Two years ago, when they were ten and one to
start the season, they kept talking about how something felt off. Yeah,
(30:59):
we're but we're not playing our best ball, and then
it spiraled totally out of control to losing six of
their final seven, including the playoff game. They then made
massive changes on the with the coordinators in the offseason.
Last year, everything was fine until AJ Brown then you know,
(31:25):
said yeah, we need to basically get better in the
passing game. And then Brandon Graham, who was still on
the team, did a radio interview saying, yeah, I don't
know what happened with Aj and Jalen. They used to
be super close. That was not the The media was
not looking for something there. And then AJ Brown started
reading books on the sideline like that all, they did
(31:46):
that themselves. Now they won the Super Bowl anyway this year. Yeah,
Aj said a little something, but it was really just
the media and fans reacting to these bizarre games. The
game against the Rams when they can do nothing in
(32:07):
the first half, then the game against the Bucks when
they do nothing in the second half, and then the
game against the Broncos last week when they have a
lead at halftime and just never run the ball again. There.
How much of this is just Kevin Bittulo, I don't know,
but it is a weird team to have this much
(32:28):
success and this much self inflicted drama. I and and also,
like other four and one teams are not having multi
hour meetings between their best players to figure out what's
going on. So just play a normal game, that's all,
(32:49):
and you should be able to against the Giants.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
I loved what Dabel said in his presser. He's like, yeah,
they got a lot of weapons over there in Philly.
He's like that all the time.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
You saw that, Yeah, that was crazy.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
People don't smart.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
If people don't know, it was really smart, But you
don't know what de Mondesay's talking about. Brian Dables asked
about all this, and he talks about how many great
players they have and all this stuff, and then he
ends the answer with and I mean, if you turn
on the film, hey J. Brown is open a lot
(33:26):
like sewing a little discord, like, hey, why is he
not getting the ball? I thought, I thought that was
really sharp by Dable, and I liked it a lot.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
If the conversation wasn't such a huge deal, why do
you think that it was leaked?
Speaker 1 (33:43):
So I do find it interesting that it got leaked,
and I don't know who is incentivized to leak it,
like I don't you. Usually the way to figure out
where leaks are coming from, leaks really only come from
two places. One is someone that wants to damage one
(34:06):
of the parties involved, and the other one is someone
who wants to look better by the information leaking right,
So very often you can you can triangulate who a
story came from based on who looks good in it,
who looks bad in it. My issue is this, and
(34:29):
this is the reason I can't figure this one out.
Nobody that knows about this meeting wants bad things for
the Eagles, and I can't imagine there's anybody in the
meeting who thinks leaking this makes me or the team
(34:50):
look good. So I don't know why I can't figure
that one out. I was thinking about that because would
be the It's usually not that hard to figure out
where stories come from. You can never like definitively say it.
(35:11):
But and if you can't, if there's ever little I
think I've talked about this on the pod before, but
a little for the very you know in tune football,
consumer basketball as well, I guess if you ever wanted
(35:33):
to know who within organizations might feed information good, bad,
or indifferent to the media. It's a really cool thing
most of the insiders do at the end of the year,
which is they basically compile a list of all their
(35:56):
leak sources for you in the form of keep a
look out for this guy as an up and coming
GM head coach, scout coordinator, and then it's a bunch
of names of people we've never heard of. That is
typically the payment the return for all. Right, you give
(36:16):
me a heads up what's going on in the organization,
and then I'll throw your name out there as man,
this is a front office guy the whole league has
its eyes on. So you can usually you know, read
between the lines a bit. All right, one more follow
up on this game.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
The Giants have allowed the six month most rushing yards
of the NFL. Saquon obviously hasn't been able to get
it going this year. Do you think this is the
time that he can against his ex team?
Speaker 1 (36:42):
Tell me if you think this is fair. If Saquon,
assuming you know, he gets carries, it's not like the
second half of the Broncos game. If Saquon gets the
opportunity to get it going tonight against his former team
that has a bad rush defense and doesn't get it going,
(37:04):
do you think it's fair to say he's not going
to get it going this season.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
I mean, I always feel like when teams play like
their X players, they're all on ten. And then especially
the Giants were really pissed it him when he left.
I don't know. I mean, those same guys were over there.
But I mean he's also dealing with injury. I believe
in Saquon. I just think it's I think it's a
weird situation right now. I think it's also a little
bit of the play calling as well.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
But no, I think it's all of the above, for
whatever it's worth. Last year against the Giants Saquon in
the first game against them, did he not?
Speaker 2 (37:44):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (37:44):
Yeah, he missed the last game against him. Yeah, it
was the final game of the year. In the first
game against him, he had seventeen carries for one hundred
and seventy six yards all right, So they were really
able to slow him down. I think it does. If
has another quiet game, then I think it's fair to
(38:05):
just be like, hey, this year, he's not gonna have
a great year. The wear and tear of last season,
the extra games, the extra carries. Did you already say
that eighty three and a half?
Speaker 2 (38:17):
Yeah? I mean a touchdown.
Speaker 1 (38:19):
The touchdown prop to me is not instructive on how
good of the game he has, you know, because so
you you can have a well right, The toush push
takes touchdowns away from him typically, but you could a
running back can get a touchdown without having a great game.
It's more about the yardage and listen, set at eighty
(38:40):
three and a half. Given how this year is gone,
it feels like the smart bets the under, but you
gotta feel like he should be able to hit that over.
I wouldn't bet in either direction, but he should be
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Speaker 2 (40:42):
Chiefs in primetime again, this time against Detroit. Detroit we
know has looked pretty well ever since that week when
lost in Green Bay. Kansas City is two to three,
coming off of brutal loss to Jacksonville. You guys really
need this one. How are you feeling well?
Speaker 1 (41:01):
It would feel like it makes up for giving away
the game to the Jags right that after that Ravens
game when they steadied themselves. If you had said the
Chiefs are gonna be three and three, getting Rashi rice back.
You just said, Okay, like that. Now, the assumption would
have been they win at Jacksonville and lose at home
(41:22):
to the Lions. I thought they could win both those games.
They obviously, you know, could have won the Jags game.
We spent a lot of time on it on Tuesday.
We don't have to rehash it. They they they didn't
do it. I am going to spend a lot of
time on this game during our pick show because the
(41:42):
line is interesting. Of all the games where you thought
the Chiefs might be home dogs, this would have been
high on the list and they're not. The Lions are
the hottest team in the league, and the Chiefs are
coming off of many meltdown against Jacksonville, and the Chiefs
(42:05):
are still the favorites. This is what I'll say. Being
two to four through six weeks not a death knell,
but not great. So how badly do they need it?
They need it, And I also think they they have
played so many high leverage playoff games that you don't
(42:30):
want to be playing a ton of high leverage regular
season games leading into the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (42:38):
And so the do you think the NonStop primetime games
ever wayl in Kansas City.
Speaker 1 (42:45):
Well, listen. Yeah, I think the fact that they are
the premiere I don't care what their record is. I
don't care honestly that the Eagles won the Super Bowl.
The Chiefs are the premier team in the league. And
because of that, for five years or six years now,
they get everyone's best shot. Every single week they and
(43:09):
they play. They're under the spotlight more than any other team.
They have the you know, like you said, prime time pressure,
all of it, more than every other team. And I
think they have dealt with it as well as any
team in the history of the league since you know,
other than Brady's Pats, to be totally fair, and they
(43:31):
felt with it to me as well as Brady's Pats.
But they're not typically in this position of a slow
start now. The last time they lost the Super Bowl,
and I've said this many times, will say it again,
they started that year three and four, and if they
lose this game, they're gonna start this year three and four.
(43:54):
And you might say, well, they could start two and
five their next games against the Raiders and after that,
so that they should be fine on that front. But
I I this is a huge spot and we'll talk
about it more on Friday Show. I know you have
a couple of quick follow ups on it.
Speaker 2 (44:13):
Though, Mahomes and Golf have gotten into a legendary shootout
against each other before. What are you expecting in this one?
Speaker 1 (44:20):
I think it's gonna I think shootout is what it's
gonna be.
Speaker 2 (44:23):
I think.
Speaker 1 (44:24):
And also, Golf, I believe is one of the only
act that maybe the only active starting quarterback that Patrick's
played more than once that he's never beaten. I think
he's zero to two against Golf the fifty four fifty
one Classic on Monday Night six seven years ago and
(44:44):
we see over. Yeah, I think those are the only
two times they've played, and so oh that's I think
that's an interesting little wrinkle to it. The bruises can
tell me if I'm wrong on that, but I think
that's in and that my be hard to look up
in real time, but I think that's the case.
Speaker 2 (45:05):
Go ahead, Uh, Golf, we know is a different quarterback
when he's under pressure. Are you expecting a crazy game
from Chris Jones or what are you expecting from Chris Jones?
Speaker 1 (45:13):
Listen? I think Chris. You know, Chris has to bounce back.
It's a tough moment. For him at the end of
that game. I'm not going to overreact to it was
a tough moment, uh And you know, Patrick got a
bad moment with the Big six, Chris had a bad
moment with the play when Trevor fell down, and so
you need your first ballot Hall of Fame guys to
(45:33):
respond and I and I expect they will all right
next game.
Speaker 2 (45:37):
All right, so it looks like we got Mac Jones again.
Party's still dealing with that turf toe. You said there's
no quarterback controversy in San Francisco, But if Mac Jones
kid managed to pull this one off against Tampa Bay,
who's kind of been humbled as well.
Speaker 1 (45:50):
I don't think there will be a controversy in the building.
I don't think Shanahan is going to, you know, consider
not playing Brock and he's healthy. But I do think
there will be a lot of noise surrounding it. And
I also think the better Mac plays and the better
the team plays, the more cautious they'll be with Perty's
(46:13):
injury that we're now told could linger all year. And
I do think because of the injury, if Purdy comes
back and plays really poorly, I think that there are
they have an out to go back to mac Jones
without being like we benched Brock to be like, no,
(46:35):
he's not healthy, and listen, I think Shanahan will just
They drafted a kid third overall and before he had
barely played, they were like, no, we're going with Purty.
They you know they are not will He is willing
to simply play whoever he thinks that season. Those games
(46:55):
give him the best chance. And I've been skeptical of
the Niners, but you have to give him it for
being four and one, dealing with all these injuries, and
you know some Kittle will be back. The other receivers
you know will be back. I don't know how much
to expect from Ayuk, but they're a dangerous team at
this point. And San Francisco Tampa is just an awesome game.
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turned thirteen. I think you should maybe put her on
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has really been running a hell of a scam, which
is sending texts to her brother, her sister, her mom,
and me asking for money, seeing who replies, and if
multiple people reply, just holding onto the balance.
Speaker 2 (49:35):
Oh yeah, I gotta say. I gotta say. I didn't
know she was asking anybody else for money. I thought
it was the only one. I literally thought it was
the only one.
Speaker 1 (49:43):
Well, she gave up asking her sister for money when
she asked her sister for money and her sister sent
her a screenshot of her bank account that said she
had a dollar thirty in it. But child yesterday yesterday,
her school went to a Broadway show and it was
her birthday, and so she asked me for money. She
(50:08):
was like, the concessions are very expensive, and so I
sent her because it was I sent her more money
than I know. I usually send her like seven dollars,
like the something like that. But she was at a
Broadway show and it was her birthday. I sent her
twenty five dollars. And then I saw when I picked
(50:30):
her up she had sour Patch kids, she had a soda,
and she had a souvenir magnet that she bought for
your mother. Because she is the sweetest little.
Speaker 2 (50:44):
Girl in the world.
Speaker 1 (50:45):
So it was very very nice of her. But I
also know that you cannot get sour Patch kids, a
collector's cup, soda, and a magnet for twenty five dollars.
So I said, how did you pay for that? She's like,
with the money you sent me. I was like, that
had to be more than twenty five dollars. She's like, yeah,
(51:08):
but I already had money. I'm like, oh, so she
had money on her phone asked me for money because
she wanted to buy more stuff. So I'm just saying,
just had on a swivel, buddy had on a swivel,
And maybe you sign her up for the cash app
card when she turned thirteen next year. All right, let's
get to the next game.
Speaker 2 (51:27):
Uh So, Monday, last year's top two picks, Kle Williams
and Jane Dames are facing off, and we remember how
last year went with the hail Mary. Who needs this game?
Who needs this game more?
Speaker 1 (51:40):
Between the I think the Bears coming off of bye,
I think the Bears need it more. And I also
think that we are in a very cool spot where
twenty ish games into these guys' careers, we really don't
know Caleb, Jaden, Drake, Who's who's gonna be the best
(52:07):
of them? We just don't know it like it was
we knew the last time when it was ced Bryce, CJ,
Anthony Richardson. It was very clear, and even though CJ
is regressed a bit, there's been no debate at any
point who the best quarterback in that class is gonna be.
(52:27):
It's CJ. Anthony can't get on the field and Bryce
is about to get taken off the field. Jaden obviously
had this transcendent, historic rookie season, but I still think
Caleb is a viable option that he might end up
being the best of that class, and Drake may some
(52:48):
people think he already is the best of that class.
So this is a really fun game and for Washington,
it's to basically reassert themselves as Hey, we're just as
good as we were last year, as long as Jaden
is playing like. We lost a weird Thursday night game
(53:08):
with a bunch of injuries to Green Bay, and then
you know, we lost another game without Caleb, but we're here.
And for Chicago, it's a way to stay on optimistic
schedule for the season off of by play Jaden outplay him,
(53:29):
get to three and two and then have the Saints, Ravens,
Bengals Giants as your next four. And at the beginning
of the year that didn't sound like an easy stretch
because of at Ravens at Bengals. Right now, at Ravens
(53:49):
at Bengals is about as easy of a road stretch
as you can have now. Again, Lamar should be back
for that game, so that changes things. But yeah, the Bears.
The Bears need to win that game, certainly more than
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green Bay real quick.
Speaker 2 (54:44):
Yeah, so Cincy is heading over to Green Bay and
they are fourteen point dogs. I don't know what that
is because Cincinnati just created for Joe Flacco. Joe flaccoll
obviously beat Green Bay earlier in the season. Do you
think it's possible you can repeat this.
Speaker 1 (54:58):
I do not think it's possible he's going to repeat it.
I am interested that Cincinnati wanted Flacco over Jamis. Like
if I were trading for a veteran QB that I
just like, hey man, can we just get the ball
to our star receivers? I would have gone Jamis. And
I also, here's my other thing. There's I have two
(55:21):
other notes on this. One is that and I'll just
never get over this. And I understand this is now
almost ten years old, but I remember the insistence at
times when people were trying to act like Colin Kaepernick
(55:46):
was not blackballed from the NFL. One of the big
things that would happen his first year of being black
baled was when a quarterback got hurt and folks like
me on TV were like, hey, you can call cap.
The response would be like, oh, well, no reason to,
(56:08):
because you know, the starter is supposed to be back
in three weeks, and it would take him two or
three weeks to get up to speed for the playbook anyway.
And then every year we see an instance where it's like, no,
that's not true. We saw Baker Mayfield the day after
he got signed by the Rams win a game for them.
(56:29):
Joe Flacco is going to play this week. He was
traded for two days ago. And so that, you know,
I just I feel almost an obligation to remind the
audience how many people put their head in the sand
that Colin Kaepernick was not being blackballed and just created
narratives out of whole cloth that have no grounding and
(56:53):
how actual NFL football works. The other one is this,
if they name Bailey Zappi the second string quarterback over Shadoor,
then we've got a real problem Again, I am not.
I think I have been very fair. I've called balls
(57:14):
and strikes on the Shador thing. I don't think many
people have. I think a lot of people are trying
to play to Twitter mentions or afraid of getting on
the wrong side of people or whatever it is. But
you cannot have Bailey Zappi jump Shador in the depth chart.
You can't. And it is the idea of oh does
(57:37):
not go ahead.
Speaker 2 (57:38):
Do you think it's also going to get to a
point where the Browns when it's like, if Gabriel, they
might as well just get you know, five games in
from Gabriel, five games in from Shador or whatever, they
can test some stuff out. You guys aren't about to
do anything.
Speaker 1 (57:51):
I think that's what the owner wants them to do.
But I think that the Browns themselves, in fairness, if
Gabriel plays well, then he should just stay the starter
right like the you know it would they they should.
There should be no circumstances where Gabriel is playing really
(58:11):
well and they're like, no, we have to put you
to the bench to play. Sure, that shouldn't happen. Yeah,
if it's mediocre, at some point you got to play Shador.
You'll want to see some of Shador. But if you
put Bailey Zappy in, we we have a we have
a problem. We and I not even if you put
(58:32):
him in, if he is listed as the backup quarterback,
I'm gonna have some real questions. All right, the mont let,
Let's get some of the listener questions. Donna says, did
I miss the picks again? Just a reminder for the audience.
Picks Now is its own separate show that comes out
on Fridays, So you guys will get all the picks
and we will go through every single game other than
(58:53):
Thursday night game on Friday for Friday Show.
Speaker 2 (58:57):
All right, Next, Curtis s which of the quarterbacks in
the twenty eighteen draft class will win a Super Bowl? First?
You got Baker Mayfield, Sam Darnold, Josh Allen, and Lamar Jackson. Dude,
that's I would.
Speaker 1 (59:16):
I mean, I think two of them could win it
this year. And Baker and Josh I like that. That
could be your super Bowl this year. Yeah, if the
Bills make it, that's the super Bowl I think we'll get.
I would say if I were I would say Josh,
(59:37):
I would power rank it Josh Baker, Lamar Donald one
through four. But that's all of a sudden turning into
a monster quarterback class. And I'm sorry that we've got
Baker out of Lamar, but I just, all of a sudden,
I think Baker, at least for this season, is in
a much better position.
Speaker 2 (59:58):
All right, Next, uh Zicco. As Colin said, Golf is
one hundred percent Hall of Famer. I think he's not
even close unless he wins uh wins super Bowls. What
do you think?
Speaker 1 (01:00:11):
I didn't hear Colin say that Jared Goff is not
even close to being a Hall of Famer. I mean,
it's just like not. And I don't even think one
super Bowl win would get him in. So like I
I agree with you, Zeko, And I gotta Colin sometimes
plays fast loose with the yeah, and I also gotta
(01:00:32):
see what he actually said.
Speaker 2 (01:00:34):
All right. Last though, Ethan asked Nick, what's your favorite
part about living in New York City? If you didn't
have to work, would you stay there?
Speaker 1 (01:00:44):
The food and the culture and the big events that
are here is my favorite part if I didn't have
to work. Listen, there's the if. I I think New
York City is an amazing place to live if the
(01:01:05):
fact that it is obnoxiously expensive doesn't ruin it for you.
So like I would have not enjoyed living here at
all ten years ago. And you know, just so the
I don't know how to say that without sounding like
an I'm not trying to sound like an elitist. I'm
not trying to I'm just being transparent to the audience. Like,
(01:01:26):
if you're going to have money related stresses, that'll sap
all of the cool parts of the city away from it,
and so much of the cool parts of the city
cost a lot, so the and so I assume it's
similar to like Paris in that way, Like Paris is
unbelievable if you can take advantage of all the things
(01:01:47):
Paris has. All right, there's some stuff for Demonse quickly.
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are in full swing. I was in attendance for Game
three Yankees Blue Jays and listen, I gotta say that
(00:25):
Judge home run. And credit to the Blue Jays, they
were the better team all series. They dominated the Yankees
in that series. They deserve to move on. But that
Judge home run was one of the most electric in
person moments I've ever been a part of. And I
didn't even like I didn't have an investment in the
(00:46):
game except the fact that if the Yankees won, I
got the next day off from work because we were preempted.
But him coming through in that moment and oddly demonse,
it made me feel like you should feel better about
(01:07):
one day Lamar having a similar postseason moment.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
For real, like, just make it all that much sweeter.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Yeah, Judge had been has been in a his It's
not an over exaggeration to say a historically great regular
season player with the numbers and the accolades to back
that up. Truly one of the greatest players of not
(01:37):
just his generation, but any generation. He's in that class
who had year in year out, played some of his
worst baseball in the postseason. And I understand for the Yankees,
you know, it's another year without a World Series sixteen.
Now it's it's a year where they, you know, don't
even make the ALCS as a team. It's disappointing. But
(02:00):
Judge was phenomenal start to finish of this playoff run,
and that three run bomb to tie the game and
keep their season alive was all time. It was really
really all time. We're gonna obviously spend a lot of
time today on Week six in the NFL. Tomorrow we
will get into our gambling show, where again the story
(02:26):
of our gambling show this season has been I go
two and three every week, Demande hits his teaser every week. Sadly,
that's basically I haven't quite gone two and three every week.
I went three and two once or twice. But I've
been doing decidedly below mediocre, and Demonte's been crushing on
(02:48):
the teasers, including a teaser that he didn't actually put
on the show, but he did bet so really he's
five and one on these ridiculous eight points. I ain't
three teamers that he just can't lose on. Also, I
am not yet ready to dive in to the NBA.
(03:10):
I know preseason's going on, and that also means I
am not going to even though this will make our
YouTube overlords very unhappy and some of the data and
analytics people in charge of this pod unhappy because this
(03:31):
would do numbers, But I just don't have the time, energy,
or urge right now to respond to the single most
high profile person in sports media saying paraphrasing essentially, but
saying that if a forty soon to be forty one
year old player in year twenty three has a bad game,
(03:54):
I'm going to assume he might be drunk. I'm not
going to entertain that commentary. And I did funny thing
real quick before we get into the full show. So
the whole bit demonse that I did about how anybody
(04:14):
being fooled by Lebron's tweet was a dope. I was
on Lebotard show yesterday and he asked me about it,
and I basically did the same bit that Lebron's tweet
was an IQ test that you if you got fooled
by it, you're a dummy. And what I didn't know
(04:40):
was that Lebotard had been oh, this whole I go,
I do this whole brand. And then Dan just very calmly,
he's like, well, he's like, so Nick's calling me an
idiot to my face, and I and listen, Dan's the greatest.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
I have great relationship for him.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
No, I love him, but I think and he's a
good enough sport. I think he thought I knew that
I was talking about him, but I didn't know I
was talking about generals. I would have been a little
nicer with it, or I would have attempted to be
funnier with it and directly make fun of him in
(05:25):
a lighthearted way. Instead, I just very matter of factly,
was like, if you thought he was announcing his retirement,
I don't think you're a very smart person. And then
after I got done saying that, Dan was like, well,
I was one of those people. So that wasn't great.
But we recovered. All right, let's get to straight. The
voicemail brought to you by boost Mobile. Jonathan Gannon find
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one hundred grand for hitting de Marcado on the sideline.
Jerry Jones find quarter of a million dollars for his
obscene gesture people are gonna look at those as portionate.
The Yeah, and Jerry was like I tried to go
thumbs up.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
I went middle finger.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
The problem is there is a precedent owner. Oddly, there
is a we have been through the owner flipping off
fans thing. It was Bud Adams with the Titans like
fifteen years ago. So the fine was a quarter of
a million then, so it's got to be a quarter
of a million now. It also kind of means Jerry
got off cheap because of inflation and all that stuff.
(06:29):
I do. We didn't really talk much much about it.
The Jonathan Gannon thing. To me, I I don't think
i'd fire him because of it, so I think one
hundred k is the right amount. But I did think
it was a terrible look and I do wonder how
(06:52):
correct how the locker room he's gonna respond and the Yannest.
Here's what I'll say about the Yiannis trade rumors. Quickly.
Did you see the report about his family?
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Yeah, like they went back, they want to go back
to Athens. His wife preferred to be out there.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
His wife and kids are going to live in Athens.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Yeah, that was not to me.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
An unrelated story to Yanni's potentially leaving Milwaukee.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
And playing in his hometown.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
No, no, no, no, no, In that I listen, I'm
sure Yannis is spread in Athens is sick, and Athens
is you know, I've never been to Greece, but I've
kind of nothing but amazing things about how beautiful it
is and the weather and the food and the people
all that. So I'm sure it's great. But do I
(07:52):
think that his you know, Kevin O'Connor pointed out that
the only US city with direct flights to Athens is
New York City. I think it's Newark.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
It might be JFK.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
But either way that that's something. But do I also
think that is that are there may be American cities
that provide more of the things Athens provides than Milwaukee.
That if Jannis we're playing in the family would be
back there because this is the NBA season, buddy, is long,
(08:32):
and to have your wife and four young children halfway
around the world is enrolled in school over there, that's jarring.
And so I found that story to be a kind
of tied to Jannie's potential future in Milwaukee, Like I.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Think that always has them on eggshells over there in Milwaukee.
I feel like he's.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
Correct, but and like he also seems like a real
family guy. Yeah, and if he was borderline unhappy in
Milwaukee already, how is it going to play now that
he's after practice just going home by himself. Like, that's
a tough one. And so that is to me something
(09:21):
to watch, all right. Reminder everybody like grate subscribe, subscribe
review to the pod. Also, one last thing for it,
we get to the Belichick thing. I was going to
give you this compliment privately, but I'm gonna give it
to you publicly, and privately i'll give you more details
on it. I watched a pod recently I'm not gonna
(09:44):
name names here, privately I will, and it had a
very similar dynamic where there was the main host whose
name is on it, who is the person that people know,
and then the person who sets things up plays in
your role seemingly was either friends or family.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
With the host.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Okay, like you know that that's the connection. And I've
actually now seen two pods like this, but one in particular.
And if you have any insecurity or whatever about how
good of a job you are or aren't doing, I'm
gonna have you watch this other pod. You're crushing it,
(10:29):
bro compared to your compared to your contemporaries, the people
in the same role who like got put on because like, hey,
the guy who's show it is wants to do it
with them. Like if those are if those aren't, Just
like I've talked about my media rivals, If those are
your rivals, you're killing the game. So feel good about it.
(10:52):
Pale all right, like Brass Tribe review to the pod
before we get to NFL Week six, I want to
talk about Bill Belichick. Let's get to it.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
So, Yeah, things have not been going well over there
in u NC for Bill Belichick. They are off to
a two and three start, and there's even talks of
the documentary being canceled, but I think that's actually canceled.
And there's there's other talks of Bill Belichick initiating his
own million million dollar buyout. You wanted to talk about this.
Things are looking rough for Bill.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
Yeah, so listen. I think that it is noteworthy what
Ali Connolly is saying. So you guys might be like,
who is Oli Connolly? People that listen to NFL Daily
Greg Rosenthal's Great Pod are familiar with Ali Connolly He
(11:40):
also has a sub stack in a newsletter called The
Read Optional. I think he also is involved in some
of in but he's in the UK.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
He's a.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
He's in the UK. I don't know if he's British.
If he's Irish, I'm not sure. I think he's British.
I know that that's one you don't want to get wrong.
My apologies regardless. The reason I am mentioning it is
he was the guy who broke Belichick to North Carolina,
and people initially like one of the reasons they it
didn't get taken as gospel initially was because it's like,
(12:17):
why is this guy in the UK breaking this story?
But he had it first by a lot. So he
then yesterday sent out the following tweet thread that I
want to read to the audience again. The guy who
first had Belichick to Carolina told us this. Bill Belichick
(12:44):
has discussed buyout options with North Carolina's hierarchy. Belichick has
signaled a willingness to trigger his own million dollar buyout
if he can find a soft landing with another team
or in media he goes on. Members of Belichick's coaching
staff have already spoken to other schools that are expected
(13:07):
to be in the College Football Playoff about taking on
roles during the postseason. From one coach quote, the rats
are leaving the ship end quote. Some staffers believe a
change will come within two weeks. Reports of serious recruiting
violations remain under investigation at UNC. Recruiting and practice violations
(13:32):
have already been proven by the school, according to multiple sources,
Using recruiting violations to knock down a coach's buyout has
become a standard practice. If Belichick cannot find a landing
spot to trigger his own buyout, he's expected to accept
a greatly reduced compromised rate. More on that in a second.
I'll explain it. Belichick's community Back to Dolly Connolly. Belichick's
(13:56):
communication with his staff in the past two weeks has
been described as weird and distant by multiple members of
UNC's coaching staff. Multiple coaches were unable to get a
hold of him during un c's bye week last week.
From one UNC defensive assistant, what we've done to these
kids is eft up end of tweet threat. So let
(14:20):
me just give a little explanation about the buyout stuff,
so people understand. If Belichick gets fired, they owe him
like twenty million. If Belichick leaves on his own accord
one thought, potentially for another job, they Belichick or whoever's
(14:41):
hiring him has to pay one million. What Ali is
reporting is that it is now on the board that
Belichick pays that million himself just to bounce, just to
be out of there, or if that doesn't happen, if
(15:02):
he doesn't have you know, like they said soft landing,
that he agrees to a greatly reduced number off that
twenty million. But what Ali Connelly is reporting, the too
long didn't read version is this thing's already over If
you already have coaches talking about who they're going to
(15:23):
coach this year's playoffs, it's over there. And that would
be we have talked about like can Belichick, is it fair?
Can your legacy ever go backwards? In sports? Right? Like
all Let's say bron was in year twenty five and
(15:50):
averaged three points a game and was terrible, Like, would
that be fair to hold against him? And my general
rule has always been you shouldn't. You should not be
penalized for continuing to do something if like, if your
legacy was here, I'm putting my hand if you're listening,
(16:13):
up to my eyebrows, basically, and if you quit, it
was going to end there. Then continuing to play your coach.
It doesn't necessarily have to raise it, but you shouldn't
go backwards, right. There are rare instances, though, where it
feels like people do go backwards. I think Russell Wilson
(16:35):
posts Seattle. I think he went backwards a little. I
think of Russell Wilson after when Seattle had said I'm retiring,
and we never saw him be bad. We never saw
him on awful teams, We never saw teams repeatedly move
on from him. We would hold him in a probably
higher light. For Belichick, for the the thing at Carolina.
(17:02):
I didn't think he needed to be great there. But
the fact that they are yet to beat a Power
five school. The three legitimate teams they've played have beaten
them by an average of twenty six points per game,
(17:23):
and they are averaging on scoring themselves eleven points per game,
and he might just be ready to call it holy
smokes man. I it is unfathomable that it would have
gone on this wrong, this gone this wrong, And I
(17:49):
say this with all sincerity. It is a bit of
a lesson and not just Hubris. But in what can
happen if you only surround yourself with acolytes and with
yes men like the GM is Lombardi whose whole the
(18:13):
only you know, the only relevance he has left in
the NFL and in football is his relationship with Belichick.
I don't listen, I don't relish saying that for me.
I don't know how much of the audience knows this.
But when I started with Fox, I did a three
(18:33):
time a week, two time a week for a full
football season podcast where it was just me and Mike Lombardi.
It's called make Me Smarter. I mean, I know the guy,
but I get fair is fair. I have to call
it what it is like. In the last decade, his
connection to pro football has been his connection to Belichick.
(18:55):
Lombardi's kid is on the coaching staff. Both of belichick
kids are on the coaching staff. They they have they
have not. There is not a lot of new ideas
coming in. They seemingly did a very poor job in
the transfer portal. And I mean there was the quote
I wish I could tell.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
You where I saw going against the integrity of the game.
But their recruiting process and all that, like, he's it
sounds like they were kind of cheating a little bit.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
Well, so that so that listen, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
I how much of that is true or.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
Yeah, I don't know enough yet about the recruiting violations.
And I also, to be totally honest, don't even know
what's legal and what's illegal in college, Like I don't
even know what, Like it seems like I don't know
how you could break the rules these days, like and
so that part of it is odd, but set that aside.
(19:55):
There was a quote from a coach of a non
power five square last week that said, yeah, I knew
North Carolina was going to be screwed because they were
recruiting all the same players we were. He's like, whenever
there's a team that is recruiting all of the guys
we're after, I know that team is not going to
be able to compete at the top level, but they
(20:18):
so they and that sounds mean from the coach, but
that coaches. Again, I'm not saying what school exact because
I don't know, but he's saying he's coaching a small
school and so they should not be going after this.
North Carolina should be able to get elite players and
did again. I don't want I don't want to put
(20:40):
you on the spot here, but you had a friend
or someone you knew.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
Yeah he was, but he he ended up going to Colorado,
but he he Yeah, he went on, did the whole process.
I think he was going to do it, but you know,
playing at Colorado this year.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
Okay, So, but he was recruited by Belichick's crew. Yeah,
as a transfer student. Right, he wasn't a graduating senior.
He was transferring somewhere, right, Those seventy kids that transferred
into North Carolina did.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
It yeah for Bill. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
And if we are five games in and they're already
talking buyout and just giving up, that's pathetic, man. And
I do think that. And I try to always be
consistent and honest on this.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
I so.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
The revisionist history that some folks do, acting as if
those first three Super Bowls weren't teams that were led
by the defense into which Belichick was in charge of.
I'm not down for that. And the final Super Bowl
(22:05):
they held the Sean McVeigh, Todd Gurley Good, Jared goff
Rams to three points. So I am not going to
act like Belichick was carried by Tom Brady. I don't
think that is the case at all. I think they
both helped each other greatly. But I'm also not going
to act like.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
That.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
The last half decade has not been an abject disaster
for Bill. He's stopped being able to draft, he made
outrageous coaching staff decisions, his personal life became very public
and a legitimate distraction. All the bridges with New England
(22:50):
seem to have been burnt. And now he goes to
North Carolina and we're talking about it being over already.
That's a train wreck. And there is not yet any coach,
any modern coach Demons that has a close enough resume
(23:12):
to Belichick's to start a reel who's the best coach ever?
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Debate?
Speaker 1 (23:19):
But if we get you know, Andy is the obvious
one that has a shot. But I but I'm not
trying to make this about the Chiefs. I'm not even
really trying to make this about Andy. The point I'm
making is this, if somebody gets close how it is
ending for Bill will hurt him. The fact that it
(23:41):
was just rank incompetence across the board. The moment Tom
left even will make people do something that I think
is unfair, as I said a moment ago, which is
start to put a bit of a curve negative curve
on what he did with Tom, and so I normally
(24:04):
would not.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
Leading with this. All this was with Tom and then
like every single thing he did after that.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
It's been a disaster. It's and so and again.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
But the thing was is him trying to recover on that.
It's like, oh, I went to college, look at what
I did and.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
Correct or and that's one of the reasons he wanted
to go to another NFL team to show he could
do it. And so it will just like again just
to bring up the Andy piece of it, like Andy
had an awesome run without Patrick Mahomes, you know, like
(24:50):
double digit playoff appearances, went to a super Bowl, multiple
conference championship appearances, all like they it didn't get to
the top of the mountain. But was an excellent coach
without Patrick. Now he had Donovan mcnabby and Mike Vick.
He had good It's not like he had terrible quarterbacks.
Obviously had really really good quarterbacks. And so it's not
(25:12):
an apples to apples comp I'm not acting like it is.
But and nobody cares about like where did Vince Lombardi. See,
you know how I know nobody cares. I don't even
remember like Vince Lombardi did he finish with the Saints,
the oh no, Washington, Washington for a year, Like people
(25:35):
don't tend to care about, you know, the final chapter
of an all time legend if it even if it
doesn't go well. But this has gone so horrifically, Like
nobody does the audience remember what Bill Parcell's final stop was,
(25:57):
and it was the Dolphins. But he wasn't the head coach.
He was the you know, basically the guy in charge
of everything, and so people don't people don't typically hold
that stuff against you. But this is such a train
wreck that and I, by the way, I believe Ali Connolly.
(26:21):
If Ali Connelly says this could happen in the next
couple of weeks, This could happen in the next couple weeks.
And what I think is now locked and why it's
worth discussing and then we'll move on. I think it is.
I think it is now minus one thousand that Belichick
is not the head coach of North Carolina next year,
which leads us to this, and then I promise we
(26:44):
will move on I guess he's just not gonna coach again.
Like if the NFL was leary of him after the
Patriots stint, then I guess this is just how it ends.
What a crummy ending, man.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
And hey, if you they just start winning games.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
They're not good. I mean, I don't think they recruited
the right players. I don't think they And it seems
like there was an article on w R A L Yeah,
which is like the A rally Raleigh the city in
North Carolina? Is it Raleigh Rally? I'm gonna pronounce it wrong, Raleigh,
I think. BUTMANI used to live there. The that uh
(27:36):
about the dysfunction and the infighting amongst players about It's
a bad situation.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
Man.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
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Speaker 2 (29:53):
The Eagles are heading to the met Life them and
the Giants are coming off a loss. Herts and Saquon
kind of downplay in the converse they had with aj
Brown Sakwon, kind of saying that it shouldn't have gotten
out or it should have stayed between the two, the
three of them. I guess, is there anything that the
Eagles can do to kind of quiet the noise?
Speaker 1 (30:11):
Yes, play a normal game. I mean, you're gonna have
a standalone national TV audience against a bad Giants team.
Can you just play a normal game? Handle your business,
have a nice mix of running pass, not this bipolar
(30:33):
offense half to have, Like, I don't some of this
stuff for Philly, I have to say is self inflicted.
Two years ago, when they were ten and one to
start the season, they kept talking about how something felt off. Yeah,
(30:59):
we're but we're not playing our best ball, and then
it spiraled totally out of control to losing six of
their final seven, including the playoff game. They then made
massive changes on the with the coordinators in the offseason.
Last year, everything was fine until AJ Brown then you know,
(31:25):
said yeah, we need to basically get better in the
passing game. And then Brandon Graham, who was still on
the team, did a radio interview saying, yeah, I don't
know what happened with Aj and Jalen. They used to
be super close. That was not the The media was
not looking for something there. And then AJ Brown started
reading books on the sideline like that all, they did
(31:46):
that themselves. Now they won the Super Bowl anyway this year. Yeah,
Aj said a little something, but it was really just
the media and fans reacting to these bizarre games. The
game against the Rams when they can do nothing in
(32:07):
the first half, then the game against the Bucks when
they do nothing in the second half, and then the
game against the Broncos last week when they have a
lead at halftime and just never run the ball again. There.
How much of this is just Kevin Bittulo, I don't know,
but it is a weird team to have this much
(32:28):
success and this much self inflicted drama. I and and also,
like other four and one teams are not having multi
hour meetings between their best players to figure out what's
going on. So just play a normal game, that's all,
(32:49):
and you should be able to against the Giants.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
I loved what Dabel said in his presser. He's like, yeah,
they got a lot of weapons over there in Philly.
He's like that all the time.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
You saw that, Yeah, that was crazy.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
People don't smart.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
If people don't know, it was really smart, But you
don't know what de Mondesay's talking about. Brian Dables asked
about all this, and he talks about how many great
players they have and all this stuff, and then he
ends the answer with and I mean, if you turn
on the film, hey J. Brown is open a lot
(33:26):
like sewing a little discord, like, hey, why is he
not getting the ball? I thought, I thought that was
really sharp by Dable, and I liked it a lot.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
If the conversation wasn't such a huge deal, why do
you think that it was leaked?
Speaker 1 (33:43):
So I do find it interesting that it got leaked,
and I don't know who is incentivized to leak it,
like I don't you. Usually the way to figure out
where leaks are coming from, leaks really only come from
two places. One is someone that wants to damage one
(34:06):
of the parties involved, and the other one is someone
who wants to look better by the information leaking right,
So very often you can you can triangulate who a
story came from based on who looks good in it,
who looks bad in it. My issue is this, and
(34:29):
this is the reason I can't figure this one out.
Nobody that knows about this meeting wants bad things for
the Eagles, and I can't imagine there's anybody in the
meeting who thinks leaking this makes me or the team
(34:50):
look good. So I don't know why I can't figure
that one out. I was thinking about that because would
be the It's usually not that hard to figure out
where stories come from. You can never like definitively say it.
(35:11):
But and if you can't, if there's ever little I
think I've talked about this on the pod before, but
a little for the very you know in tune football,
consumer basketball as well, I guess if you ever wanted
(35:33):
to know who within organizations might feed information good, bad,
or indifferent to the media. It's a really cool thing
most of the insiders do at the end of the year,
which is they basically compile a list of all their
(35:56):
leak sources for you in the form of keep a
look out for this guy as an up and coming
GM head coach, scout coordinator, and then it's a bunch
of names of people we've never heard of. That is
typically the payment the return for all. Right, you give
(36:16):
me a heads up what's going on in the organization,
and then I'll throw your name out there as man,
this is a front office guy the whole league has
its eyes on. So you can usually you know, read
between the lines a bit. All right, one more follow
up on this game.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
The Giants have allowed the six month most rushing yards
of the NFL. Saquon obviously hasn't been able to get
it going this year. Do you think this is the
time that he can against his ex team?
Speaker 1 (36:42):
Tell me if you think this is fair. If Saquon,
assuming you know, he gets carries, it's not like the
second half of the Broncos game. If Saquon gets the
opportunity to get it going tonight against his former team
that has a bad rush defense and doesn't get it going,
(37:04):
do you think it's fair to say he's not going
to get it going this season.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
I mean, I always feel like when teams play like
their X players, they're all on ten. And then especially
the Giants were really pissed it him when he left.
I don't know. I mean, those same guys were over there.
But I mean he's also dealing with injury. I believe
in Saquon. I just think it's I think it's a
weird situation right now. I think it's also a little
bit of the play calling as well.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
But no, I think it's all of the above, for
whatever it's worth. Last year against the Giants Saquon in
the first game against them, did he not?
Speaker 2 (37:44):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (37:44):
Yeah, he missed the last game against him. Yeah, it
was the final game of the year. In the first
game against him, he had seventeen carries for one hundred
and seventy six yards all right, So they were really
able to slow him down. I think it does. If
has another quiet game, then I think it's fair to
(38:05):
just be like, hey, this year, he's not gonna have
a great year. The wear and tear of last season,
the extra games, the extra carries. Did you already say
that eighty three and a half?
Speaker 2 (38:17):
Yeah? I mean a touchdown.
Speaker 1 (38:19):
The touchdown prop to me is not instructive on how
good of the game he has, you know, because so
you you can have a well right, The toush push
takes touchdowns away from him typically, but you could a
running back can get a touchdown without having a great game.
It's more about the yardage and listen, set at eighty
(38:40):
three and a half. Given how this year is gone,
it feels like the smart bets the under, but you
gotta feel like he should be able to hit that over.
I wouldn't bet in either direction, but he should be
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Speaker 2 (40:42):
Chiefs in primetime again, this time against Detroit. Detroit we
know has looked pretty well ever since that week when
lost in Green Bay. Kansas City is two to three,
coming off of brutal loss to Jacksonville. You guys really
need this one. How are you feeling well?
Speaker 1 (41:01):
It would feel like it makes up for giving away
the game to the Jags right that after that Ravens
game when they steadied themselves. If you had said the
Chiefs are gonna be three and three, getting Rashi rice back.
You just said, Okay, like that. Now, the assumption would
have been they win at Jacksonville and lose at home
(41:22):
to the Lions. I thought they could win both those games.
They obviously, you know, could have won the Jags game.
We spent a lot of time on it on Tuesday.
We don't have to rehash it. They they they didn't
do it. I am going to spend a lot of
time on this game during our pick show because the
(41:42):
line is interesting. Of all the games where you thought
the Chiefs might be home dogs, this would have been
high on the list and they're not. The Lions are
the hottest team in the league, and the Chiefs are
coming off of many meltdown against Jacksonville, and the Chiefs
(42:05):
are still the favorites. This is what I'll say. Being
two to four through six weeks not a death knell,
but not great. So how badly do they need it?
They need it, And I also think they they have
played so many high leverage playoff games that you don't
(42:30):
want to be playing a ton of high leverage regular
season games leading into the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (42:38):
And so the do you think the NonStop primetime games
ever wayl in Kansas City.
Speaker 1 (42:45):
Well, listen. Yeah, I think the fact that they are
the premiere I don't care what their record is. I
don't care honestly that the Eagles won the Super Bowl.
The Chiefs are the premier team in the league. And
because of that, for five years or six years now,
they get everyone's best shot. Every single week they and
(43:09):
they play. They're under the spotlight more than any other team.
They have the you know, like you said, prime time pressure,
all of it, more than every other team. And I
think they have dealt with it as well as any
team in the history of the league since you know,
other than Brady's Pats, to be totally fair, and they
(43:31):
felt with it to me as well as Brady's Pats.
But they're not typically in this position of a slow
start now. The last time they lost the Super Bowl,
and I've said this many times, will say it again,
they started that year three and four, and if they
lose this game, they're gonna start this year three and four.
(43:54):
And you might say, well, they could start two and
five their next games against the Raiders and after that,
so that they should be fine on that front. But
I I this is a huge spot and we'll talk
about it more on Friday Show. I know you have
a couple of quick follow ups on it.
Speaker 2 (44:13):
Though, Mahomes and Golf have gotten into a legendary shootout
against each other before. What are you expecting in this one?
Speaker 1 (44:20):
I think it's gonna I think shootout is what it's
gonna be.
Speaker 2 (44:23):
I think.
Speaker 1 (44:24):
And also, Golf, I believe is one of the only
act that maybe the only active starting quarterback that Patrick's
played more than once that he's never beaten. I think
he's zero to two against Golf the fifty four fifty
one Classic on Monday Night six seven years ago and
(44:44):
we see over. Yeah, I think those are the only
two times they've played, and so oh that's I think
that's an interesting little wrinkle to it. The bruises can
tell me if I'm wrong on that, but I think
that's in and that my be hard to look up
in real time, but I think that's the case.
Speaker 2 (45:05):
Go ahead, Uh, Golf, we know is a different quarterback
when he's under pressure. Are you expecting a crazy game
from Chris Jones or what are you expecting from Chris Jones?
Speaker 1 (45:13):
Listen? I think Chris. You know, Chris has to bounce back.
It's a tough moment. For him at the end of
that game. I'm not going to overreact to it was
a tough moment, uh And you know, Patrick got a
bad moment with the Big six, Chris had a bad
moment with the play when Trevor fell down, and so
you need your first ballot Hall of Fame guys to
(45:33):
respond and I and I expect they will all right
next game.
Speaker 2 (45:37):
All right, so it looks like we got Mac Jones again.
Party's still dealing with that turf toe. You said there's
no quarterback controversy in San Francisco, But if Mac Jones
kid managed to pull this one off against Tampa Bay,
who's kind of been humbled as well.
Speaker 1 (45:50):
I don't think there will be a controversy in the building.
I don't think Shanahan is going to, you know, consider
not playing Brock and he's healthy. But I do think
there will be a lot of noise surrounding it. And
I also think the better Mac plays and the better
the team plays, the more cautious they'll be with Perty's
(46:13):
injury that we're now told could linger all year. And
I do think because of the injury, if Purdy comes
back and plays really poorly, I think that there are
they have an out to go back to mac Jones
without being like we benched Brock to be like, no,
(46:35):
he's not healthy, and listen, I think Shanahan will just
They drafted a kid third overall and before he had
barely played, they were like, no, we're going with Purty.
They you know they are not will He is willing
to simply play whoever he thinks that season. Those games
(46:55):
give him the best chance. And I've been skeptical of
the Niners, but you have to give him it for
being four and one, dealing with all these injuries, and
you know some Kittle will be back. The other receivers
you know will be back. I don't know how much
to expect from Ayuk, but they're a dangerous team at
this point. And San Francisco Tampa is just an awesome game.
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your sister's only she turned twelve yes day, when she
turned thirteen. I think you should maybe put her on
the cash app card since she's hit you up for
money all the time. Might have Our twelve year old
(49:11):
has really been running a hell of a scam, which
is sending texts to her brother, her sister, her mom,
and me asking for money, seeing who replies, and if
multiple people reply, just holding onto the balance.
Speaker 2 (49:35):
Oh yeah, I gotta say. I gotta say. I didn't
know she was asking anybody else for money. I thought
it was the only one. I literally thought it was
the only one.
Speaker 1 (49:43):
Well, she gave up asking her sister for money when
she asked her sister for money and her sister sent
her a screenshot of her bank account that said she
had a dollar thirty in it. But child yesterday yesterday,
her school went to a Broadway show and it was
her birthday, and so she asked me for money. She
(50:08):
was like, the concessions are very expensive, and so I
sent her because it was I sent her more money
than I know. I usually send her like seven dollars,
like the something like that. But she was at a
Broadway show and it was her birthday. I sent her
twenty five dollars. And then I saw when I picked
(50:30):
her up she had sour Patch kids, she had a soda,
and she had a souvenir magnet that she bought for
your mother. Because she is the sweetest little.
Speaker 2 (50:44):
Girl in the world.
Speaker 1 (50:45):
So it was very very nice of her. But I
also know that you cannot get sour Patch kids, a
collector's cup, soda, and a magnet for twenty five dollars.
So I said, how did you pay for that? She's like,
with the money you sent me. I was like, that
had to be more than twenty five dollars. She's like, yeah,
(51:08):
but I already had money. I'm like, oh, so she
had money on her phone asked me for money because
she wanted to buy more stuff. So I'm just saying,
just had on a swivel, buddy had on a swivel,
And maybe you sign her up for the cash app
card when she turned thirteen next year. All right, let's
get to the next game.
Speaker 2 (51:27):
Uh So, Monday, last year's top two picks, Kle Williams
and Jane Dames are facing off, and we remember how
last year went with the hail Mary. Who needs this game?
Who needs this game more?
Speaker 1 (51:40):
Between the I think the Bears coming off of bye,
I think the Bears need it more. And I also
think that we are in a very cool spot where
twenty ish games into these guys' careers, we really don't
know Caleb, Jaden, Drake, Who's who's gonna be the best
(52:07):
of them? We just don't know it like it was
we knew the last time when it was ced Bryce, CJ,
Anthony Richardson. It was very clear, and even though CJ
is regressed a bit, there's been no debate at any
point who the best quarterback in that class is gonna be.
(52:27):
It's CJ. Anthony can't get on the field and Bryce
is about to get taken off the field. Jaden obviously
had this transcendent, historic rookie season, but I still think
Caleb is a viable option that he might end up
being the best of that class, and Drake may some
(52:48):
people think he already is the best of that class.
So this is a really fun game and for Washington,
it's to basically reassert themselves as Hey, we're just as
good as we were last year, as long as Jaden
is playing like. We lost a weird Thursday night game
(53:08):
with a bunch of injuries to Green Bay, and then
you know, we lost another game without Caleb, but we're here.
And for Chicago, it's a way to stay on optimistic
schedule for the season off of by play Jaden outplay him,
(53:29):
get to three and two and then have the Saints, Ravens,
Bengals Giants as your next four. And at the beginning
of the year that didn't sound like an easy stretch
because of at Ravens at Bengals. Right now, at Ravens
(53:49):
at Bengals is about as easy of a road stretch
as you can have now. Again, Lamar should be back
for that game, so that changes things. But yeah, the Bears.
The Bears need to win that game, certainly more than
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green Bay real quick.
Speaker 2 (54:44):
Yeah, so Cincy is heading over to Green Bay and
they are fourteen point dogs. I don't know what that
is because Cincinnati just created for Joe Flacco. Joe flaccoll
obviously beat Green Bay earlier in the season. Do you
think it's possible you can repeat this.
Speaker 1 (54:58):
I do not think it's possible he's going to repeat it.
I am interested that Cincinnati wanted Flacco over Jamis. Like
if I were trading for a veteran QB that I
just like, hey man, can we just get the ball
to our star receivers? I would have gone Jamis. And
I also, here's my other thing. There's I have two
(55:21):
other notes on this. One is that and I'll just
never get over this. And I understand this is now
almost ten years old, but I remember the insistence at
times when people were trying to act like Colin Kaepernick
(55:46):
was not blackballed from the NFL. One of the big
things that would happen his first year of being black
baled was when a quarterback got hurt and folks like
me on TV were like, hey, you can call cap.
The response would be like, oh, well, no reason to,
(56:08):
because you know, the starter is supposed to be back
in three weeks, and it would take him two or
three weeks to get up to speed for the playbook anyway.
And then every year we see an instance where it's like, no,
that's not true. We saw Baker Mayfield the day after
he got signed by the Rams win a game for them.
(56:29):
Joe Flacco is going to play this week. He was
traded for two days ago. And so that, you know,
I just I feel almost an obligation to remind the
audience how many people put their head in the sand
that Colin Kaepernick was not being blackballed and just created
narratives out of whole cloth that have no grounding and
(56:53):
how actual NFL football works. The other one is this,
if they name Bailey Zappi the second string quarterback over Shadoor,
then we've got a real problem Again, I am not.
I think I have been very fair. I've called balls
(57:14):
and strikes on the Shador thing. I don't think many
people have. I think a lot of people are trying
to play to Twitter mentions or afraid of getting on
the wrong side of people or whatever it is. But
you cannot have Bailey Zappi jump Shador in the depth chart.
You can't. And it is the idea of oh does
(57:37):
not go ahead.
Speaker 2 (57:38):
Do you think it's also going to get to a
point where the Browns when it's like, if Gabriel, they
might as well just get you know, five games in
from Gabriel, five games in from Shador or whatever, they
can test some stuff out. You guys aren't about to
do anything.
Speaker 1 (57:51):
I think that's what the owner wants them to do.
But I think that the Browns themselves, in fairness, if
Gabriel plays well, then he should just stay the starter
right like the you know it would they they should.
There should be no circumstances where Gabriel is playing really
(58:11):
well and they're like, no, we have to put you
to the bench to play. Sure, that shouldn't happen. Yeah,
if it's mediocre, at some point you got to play Shador.
You'll want to see some of Shador. But if you
put Bailey Zappy in, we we have a we have
a problem. We and I not even if you put
(58:32):
him in, if he is listed as the backup quarterback,
I'm gonna have some real questions. All right, the mont let,
Let's get some of the listener questions. Donna says, did
I miss the picks again? Just a reminder for the audience.
Picks Now is its own separate show that comes out
on Fridays, So you guys will get all the picks
and we will go through every single game other than
(58:53):
Thursday night game on Friday for Friday Show.
Speaker 2 (58:57):
All right, Next, Curtis s which of the quarterbacks in
the twenty eighteen draft class will win a Super Bowl? First?
You got Baker Mayfield, Sam Darnold, Josh Allen, and Lamar Jackson. Dude,
that's I would.
Speaker 1 (59:16):
I mean, I think two of them could win it
this year. And Baker and Josh I like that. That
could be your super Bowl this year. Yeah, if the
Bills make it, that's the super Bowl I think we'll get.
I would say if I were I would say Josh,
(59:37):
I would power rank it Josh Baker, Lamar Donald one
through four. But that's all of a sudden turning into
a monster quarterback class. And I'm sorry that we've got
Baker out of Lamar, but I just, all of a sudden,
I think Baker, at least for this season, is in
a much better position.
Speaker 2 (59:58):
All right, Next, uh Zicco. As Colin said, Golf is
one hundred percent Hall of Famer. I think he's not
even close unless he wins uh wins super Bowls. What
do you think?
Speaker 1 (01:00:11):
I didn't hear Colin say that Jared Goff is not
even close to being a Hall of Famer. I mean,
it's just like not. And I don't even think one
super Bowl win would get him in. So like I
I agree with you, Zeko, And I gotta Colin sometimes
plays fast loose with the yeah, and I also gotta
(01:00:32):
see what he actually said.
Speaker 2 (01:00:34):
All right. Last though, Ethan asked Nick, what's your favorite
part about living in New York City? If you didn't
have to work, would you stay there?
Speaker 1 (01:00:44):
The food and the culture and the big events that
are here is my favorite part if I didn't have
to work. Listen, there's the if. I I think New
York City is an amazing place to live if the
(01:01:05):
fact that it is obnoxiously expensive doesn't ruin it for you.
So like I would have not enjoyed living here at
all ten years ago. And you know, just so the
I don't know how to say that without sounding like
an I'm not trying to sound like an elitist. I'm
not trying to I'm just being transparent to the audience. Like,
(01:01:26):
if you're going to have money related stresses, that'll sap
all of the cool parts of the city away from it,
and so much of the cool parts of the city
cost a lot, so the and so I assume it's
similar to like Paris in that way, Like Paris is
unbelievable if you can take advantage of all the things
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Paris has. All right, there's some stuff for Demonse quickly.
Leons must be new to the show, says, what's this
guy's name on the right, and who is he to nick?
His name is Demanse and he's my son. Andy demands
this snake update.
Speaker 2 (01:02:00):
Demons, Hey man, the snakes are all doing good. Everybody's
eating well, we're just at that process is selling them.
You know, I got a bunch of guys hitting me
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we're just dealing with that. I think it's all going
very well though. Everything looks healthy. Okay.
Speaker 1 (01:02:18):
I feel like you might be under underpricing.
Speaker 2 (01:02:24):
Yeah, I do think what do you like under like
literally underpricing the snakes or underpriced?
Speaker 1 (01:02:29):
Yeah, I feel like I feel like, yeah, I feel
like you should if you have a bunch of people
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to have the most efficient market here, I think you
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Speaker 2 (01:02:49):
Exactly no, no, no, the price that I told the
first person definitely changed from the second person after. Okay,
Garson was like, oh, yeah, that's all good. But like
I'm not a gouger, and it doesn't didn't jump crazy,
but but I know that's what I'm saying.
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