November 6, 2025 • 53 mins
Nick Wright reacts to all the massive moves at the NFL trade deadline, starting with the New York Jets tear down and megadeals between the Dallas Cowboys and Indianapolis Colts for Quinnen Williams and Sauce Gardner. Then, Nick previews Week 10 of the NFL season, including games with tons of playoff implications on the line, like Jalen Hurts' Philadelphia Eagles playing against Jordan Love's Green Bay Packers, and Matthew Stafford's Los Angeles Rams facing off with the San Francisco 49ers. After, Nick discusses the future of the NBA with Luka Doncic and Victor Wembanyama following the Los Angeles Lakers' win over the San Antonio Spurs, and what the Arizona Cardinals are going to do with Kyler Murray. Later, Nick and Damonza answer your questions. #Volume
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome in. We'll drive in the great episode three eighty eight.
As we get to week ten, I can't believe it.
Week ten in the NFL, as we react to the
trade deadline and a little bit of NBA as well
as the Lakers kept us up quite late last night,
and Luca reminded everyone more on this than just a
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second that Wimby might be coming. But he's not quite
there yet. And we will, in fact, you know what
we will before we get to trade deadline. We're gonna
do a little bit on the Lakers in the Spurs.
But this episode of the show is brought to you
by boost Mobile and we'll get right to it. Demonsay
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straight to voicemail, brought to you by boost Mobile. Zion
out seven to ten days with a hamstring injury. At
this point, let's just do send in the Zion for
Joh trade. Jos lost his joy. The Grizzlies are a mess.
The Pelicans are a mess, like they were one two
in a draft. Just see if that fixes anything for
either one of these guys. I have two. Which of
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my fake Joh trades do you like more? My three
team maligned Southeastern point guard trade of John to Charlotte
LaMelo to Atlanta trade of Memphis or joh for Zion?
Straight up, which one do you like more?
Speaker 2 (01:22):
The first one? I think. I think the Pelicans probably
want Zion more than they want Jah turning a corner.
He's just kind of hamstring thing going on right now.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Oh yeah, he's turning the corner, except for the fact
that he has now hurt again. I mean, and the
Pelican drafted Derek Queen, who's a little redundant with Zion.
I don't know those teams. Both teams are a mess
for being totally honest. And this is if I didn't
say the straight to voicemail brought to you by Boost
Mobile Thursday night Football Raiders at Broncos. And then the
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Lakers get a great win last night against the Spurs.
So let's just talk about that for a second. Luca's
been absolutely historically great in the games he's played. Only
Wilt has ever scored more points through the opening five
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games of a season, and he did it twice. Then
Luca's even two hundred through the first five games this year.
And the listen, the Spurs have been excellent, and I
understand the Spurs are dealing with injuries of their own.
But it is hard not to look at the Lakers
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with no Lebron, with Austin having missed time, and obviously
Luca's missed some time as well, sitting at seven and
two alone in second place in the Eastern Conference, only
behind the Thunder and obviously I shouldn't say obviously and
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shockingly the Chicago Bulls for overall record in the NBA.
But it's very hard to look at Luca doing what
he's doing and the Lakers sitting at seven and two,
and then not also look at the Mavericks doing what
they're doing, sitting in dead last in the Western Conference
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at two and six, and not revisit what is will
go down in history as one of the most inexplicable, indefensible,
unforced errors a franchise has ever made. And I know
there was a very brief moment when people were like, well,
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now that they've gotten Cooper Flag, maybe it all works out. Demons.
I'm here to tell you if Nico Harrison today called
up Rob Bolenka and said we will trade you Anthony
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Davis and Cooper Flag for Luka Doncic, they would say, no,
that is and the how good is Luca. Really, conversation
that was briefly had last year was categorically insane from
start to finish, and up to this moment of the season,
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he's been either the best or the second best player
in the sport. Giannis is playing at a just incomprehensible
level and Luca has missed time. But Luca giving you
a nice tidy forty eleven and nine on fifty percent shooting,
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despite shooting thirty percent from three, has just been not
shocking because you know how good he is, but remarkable
and it's why you know a lot of people This
isn't me picking on Bill, but Bill probably the most
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noteworthy of the folks that coming into the year, we're
just totally, unabashedly, unequivocally writing the Lakers off as having
any chance, any chance to be a real contender. And
the reason that struck me as a little myopic was, Man,
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if you had all of NBA history tells us, if
you have a clear cut top three guy, unless the
team is just in total shambles around him, you're at
least contender adjacent. And Luca has been a clear cut
top three guy. Obviously, again, the honest has been great
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Shay has been unbelievable, and the thunder losing last night's
shocking because it's shocking that they lose. That team is
going to win seventy games if they want to. But
the Lakers surviving this stretch of no Lebron, Luca in
and out of the lineup, beating the Spurs who have
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been red hot, and now say it again like yeah,
I mean and Reeves obviously playing great. And now if
you're the Lakers, I don't know when Lebron's coming back.
But over the next two weeks you have Atlanta, Charlotte, OKC, Brutal,
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New Orleans, Milwalk that's a road trip, and then Utah Utah.
So you've got seven games over the next two and
a half weeks, all of them on the road, except
for one game against Utah before you start a homestand
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which is maybe where they would hope Lebron could come back.
And the expectation should be to go five and two
in that seven game stretch, at the very least four
and three and be eleven and five, twelve and four
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through the first month and a half of the season,
well really the first month of the season, which would
be phenomenal and so Luca's just playing out of his mind,
just absolutely out of his mind. And Austin, when Luca
wasn't there, was playing out of his mind, and you
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thought I was gonna skip it. Demonse, credit where it's due.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Minutes last night.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
No, no, no, I'm not talking, Bronnie. I'm talking. I'm talking.
I don't know if it's fair to call him your
guy guy.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Dere Yeah, dominating. He showed up last night. He's been good.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
He was really rough very early on, but twenty two
and ten last night when they were super shorthanded, twenty
nine and ten against the Blazers. The no, he's been
he's he's played well for him, and so fair is fair.
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Credit to Blinka, a lot of credit to JJ Reddick
who has this team ready to play every night, and
Jake la Ravia has done well. They're legit. They're legit
seven and two beating the Spurs, uh without Austin Reeves
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and obviously no lebron And they did try to blow
it at the end, but whatever, like that's the way,
you know, not at all now. I didn't. I didn't
write them off because of the respect for Luca and
because I felt like when Lebron comes back, they'll still
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be one of the only teams in the league with
two top ten guys, because that's what we'll see what
Lebron is this year. But last year he was a
clear top eight guy. But no, I didn't think they'd
be able to handle Lebron missing the first ten games,
plus Austin being out of the lineup some, Luca being
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out of the lineup some, and I mean they've been
they've been excellent. So credit to the Lakers. All right,
let's get to the trade line.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
Super big, super busy trade deadline yesterday, and a lot
of it formulated around the Jets getting rid of players
because they can't do anything, trading over to Dallas and Indianapolis.
Which team would you like to start with first?
Speaker 1 (10:13):
I want to start with the Cowboys, Okay, so yeah,
go ahead.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
After trading for Logan Wilson, Dallas followed up by trading
a Hall first in a second, I believe for Quinn Williams. Yep,
Jerry Jones is talking about how he wants to win
now because of his age. Doesn't kind of seem like
their season is already over.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Well, their seasons definitely already over, And I explained this
in short form on TV, but I am going to
lay it out further here. They barely barely got more
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for Micah Parsons than they traded away for Quinn Williams.
So let's do the actual accounting of what the Cowboys
got for Micah Parsons. Okay, they got the next two
Packer first round picks, which we obviously don't know what
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picks those will be. But this year, the Packers right
now have the twenty fourth pick of the draft. It
would you know, it could go up if they go
on a real playoff run. It could go down if
they get bounced in round one, but that's what they have.
And then next year's Packers' first round pick, and they
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got Kenny Clark more on him in a moment. For
quinnn Williams, they traded away their own second round pick,
which right now would be the forty sixth pick of
the draft. So again in the Ka trade and quinnin trade,
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they received what would be the twenty fourth pick and
sent out what would be the forty sixth pick, so
a twenty two pick jump. Will see how those move,
but that's a good framework, and then they will be
sending out whatever is the better pick between their own
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first after next season and the Packers first after next season.
So there is no chance whatsoever none that for the
twenty twenty seven first rounder that they receive a better
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pick from the Packers than they give to the Jets,
because whatever the better pick is, they give to the Jets.
And then you add to it that, because you have
traded for Quinn Williams and signed Oshia Digazua to an extension,
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you almost assuredly are this offseason cutting Kenny Clark. The
best case scenario for the Cowboys is the different in
draft compensation they gave up for Quinn Williams compared to
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what they received for Micah Parsons is the equivalent of
about a third round pick. And the worst case scenario
is they actually ended up giving up more for Quinn
Williams than they received for Micah Parsons. And you might say,
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how could that be, Well, here's how it could be.
The Cowboys in up drafting tenth in this year's draft,
so that'd be second round pick forty two. The Packers
make it forget even win the Super Bowl, make it
to the conference championship game, they give up, so they
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give to Dallas' first round pick twenty nine, so that's
a thirteen pick delta. Next year, the Packers make it
back to the conference championship game, they give Dallas the
twenty ninth pick again, and next year Dak Prescott gets hurt.
The Cowboys have a year from hell and they end
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up getting or hell. They just have the same year
they had this year where Dak doesn't get hurt and
they but they have a bad year. They have the
tenth pick of that draft and they give that pick
to the Jets. It is absolutely on the board. What
they receive from Green Bay are two picks in the
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late twenties, and what they give to the Jets is
a pick in the low forties and a pick in
the teams, which is when you are sending out a
more valuable younger player. Just totally unacceptable. I understand quinnin
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is cheaper than Micah, but that is not enough to
offset the difference in value of the players impact on
the field. And so this Cowboys move, even if Quinn
Williams is really good and I think he is, is
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as baffling of an NFL trade as you'll see for years,
and it totally goes against demons. Jerry's whole take, which
was trading.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Micah defense stop the run.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
Well, no, no, no, stop the run part of it. It
does work because cornewilliams better at that than Micah, but
he kept saying, we'll be able to get three or
four players. You got two extra picks for Micah, you
gave two extra picks up for Quinnen. And again that
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the Cowboys agreeing to send the better of the two
picks they have in the twenty twenty seven draft is
unfathomable because here's the other piece of it. Let's say
Jordan Love a year from now gets hurt and the
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Packers fall off a cliff in a very difficult NFC North,
and the Packers have the sixth pick of the draft
two years from now. You don't get that now. That
goes to the Jets.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
So it's right in line with everything else that's been
going on with the Cowboys and Jerry. It makes sense.
It doesn't make sense for it makes sense for Jerry
to be doing it.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
Yes, it's just awful business. Now the Colts piece of
it is more understandable, but somehow even riskier. So go ahead.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
The Colts are seeming to go all in on Daniel Jones.
They traded two first rounders to get Sauce Gardner. Do
you think that this is a little bit too earlier
for them?
Speaker 1 (17:55):
I I respect the guts, and unlike the Dallas move,
you at least see the logic of it. The logic
of it is, we have our quarterback, we like our team,
We are trying to win right now, Let's add a
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blue chip player, which Sauce has been at the first
two years of his career. He has not been the
last year and a half. But you know, you know,
he's young, and he's on a cost control deal. You
believe they obviously believe you can get back to it.
So that's the logic of it. It is the exact
same logic that led to the Dolphins trading for Tyreek,
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that led to the Packers trading for Micah. We we
love our team, think adding one more piece can put
us over the top. Oh, I understand it. I think
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it's one of the riskiest moves I have seen a
team make in ten years. So here are the circumstances
over the last decade. Demonse that teams have traded away
multiple first round picks for a player not during the draft,
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but for an established player. The Chicago Bears traded two
first round picks for Khalil Mack. They did that one
year after spending the second pick of the draft on
Mitch Krubisky. They were wrong, but they thought, we've got
our quarterback. Let's go add to the defense. The Rams
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traded two first round picks away for Jalen Ramsey. They
did that month's removed from going to the Super Bowl
with golf. They said, we've got our quarterback, let's add
to the defense. Again. They ended up souring on that quarterback,
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but they believed they had the quarterback. The Jets, I'm sorry.
The Seahawks traded away two first round picks for Jamal
Adams in twenty twenty. They believed Russell's you know we're
gonna be our quarterback long term. Let's go at another
piece again. That trade was a catastrophe, but they had
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real reason to believe their quarterback was in place. Obviously,
The Packers traded away two first rounders for Micah and
I might be leaving one out for the Colts to
be doing this, not only when it's just been a
half season of good Daniel Jones but and this part's
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important to manse. They don't even have Daniel Jones locked
up on a contract is stunning.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
I mean the Bears go ahead, I mean Daniel, like
Daniel could leave or something or leave them high and
dry or no.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
But they are now over a barrel on back.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
Oh, it's because when it comes time, cap space is
already too high.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
That's fair well, and it's it's the it's how are
you going to replace me? You don't have a first
round pick this year or next year, and the franchise
tag number is forty six million dollars.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
Daniel Jones, I guess strikes me as a team friendly
type of guy.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
I buddy, he already got four years one sixty from
the Giants when they were in this situation. I don't know,
know like.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
The he.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
The Colts have put themselves in a position now where
Daniel is gonna get all call my shout on it
right now, four years, one hundred and eighty million dollars
forty five million dollars a year. And the other piece
of it that is wildly risky if you're the Colts,
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is they even if you believe Daniel Jones is just good,
bad circumstances, bad luck, bad coaching with the Giants. Dating
back to his last year of college, there has been
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one season he was fully healthy. So you are putting
all in college, he broke his collar bone. In the pros,
he's torn his acl out, a neck injury, an ankle
out of hamstring. You are putting all your eggs in
this basket in a way that is stunning to me. Stunning.
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They have painted themselves in a corner where yep, we
saw eight good games from Daniel Jones. I know they've
played nine, but the last one was awful. Eight good
games from Daniel Jones, and now we are gonna remove
any ability we have to pivot at that position. And
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it's gutsy, it is. It's a real go all in move.
I just wonder how it's gonna feel if this season
ends with them hosting a wild card playoff game against
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the Patriots and getting beat and they're one and done
and it's like, Okay, this is just our team now.
Like I wouldn't have done it. I also think it
is fair to ask, is that too much to pay
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for anything? Yeah? For any well, for any corner, pis
a lot it and so like would it shock anyone.
Here's the question I would have because when the Packers
traded for Micah, it was it would have shocked people.
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If the Packers this year ended up with the ninth
pick of the draft, right like, that would have been stunning,
Right would it shock? Would it be shocking if next
year at this moment the culture three and six? Would
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that shock people? Wouldn't shock me? And so it is
Their past defense was bad. Lou Ana Arumo now has
a great that probably the best corner he's ever had
since he's been a coordinator. It's a hell of a move,
but it would have been too rich for my blood.
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That's the thing. The Cowboys and the Colts making moves
that I think would have been insane for the Chiefs
or the Bills to make. Is something else. All right,
let's get to the other side of.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
These the Jets. They now have five first round picks
over the next two years, so surely they can't mess
this up, right they They're probably gonna get it on
the track.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
Well, I mean, this is the exact situation they found
themselves in which got him Quinnin and Sauce and Garrett
Wilson and then they you know, they're now full blown,
blown it up.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Just got to get the quarterback, right.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
Yeah, so I respect the Jets recognizing we are nowhere
close and by the time we get close, Quinnin is
probably out of his prime. Right he turns twenty eight
here in a couple of weeks and sauce, I'm sure
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they wanted to keep but too first is just too
rich of a price, particularly when it's too first from
again from a team that's not like an established, every
year good team. And so now, yeah, you've got a
draft smart And if I'm the Jets, i am potentially
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in this year's draft, I'm open for business as well.
I might move down there's not a quarterback I love.
I might be willing to trade my own pick, which
could be you know, the first, second, third, fourth pick
of the draft, for even more draft capital and try
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to full on fully rebuild the team. It is good process.
They just have to hit on these players. And I
understand people can say, oh, the draft's a crap shoot.
Here's the thing it, Yes, the draft is a crap shoot.
But the fact of the matter is this, if you
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have a no doubt franchise quarterback on your team, unless
your team unless your quarterback's name is Dak Prescott or
Jalen Hurts. That quarterback was taken in round one. Every
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people can talk all this stuff about, oh, well you
can find quarterbacks anywhere. No, every single team that has
the no doubt franchise quarterback, that quarterback was a first
round pick except for Dak and Jail. That's it. Like,
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who are the no doubt franchise quarterbacks? They were first
round picks. So the Jets acquiring a bunch of first
round picks for a team that hasn't been able to
get quarterback right is obviously something they need to do.
And so I I don't begrudge it, begrudge them that
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I do feel badly for their fans because it's just
perpetual rebuild too.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
Man, Like we just gave away everybody because you're trash.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
Well yeah, I mean we'll feel I mean, Fields isn't
the guy. I mean, just he isn't the guy? What's
the point?
Speaker 2 (28:59):
Like? Feels how bad for that? I like justin Fields? Oh,
but Kansas City, they were trying to trade a fourth
for Breese Hall. The Jets wanted a third. Are you
surprised that they couldn't get anything?
Speaker 1 (29:09):
Done there no listen, I trading a third round pick
for eight games of Breese Hall and then he walks
in free agency would have been bad process. I and
I think the Chief the Chiefs offense is gonna be fine.
They need the offensive lineman back, and the offense is
gonna be great. I'm not worried about the offense. I
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would have liked them to try to trade for a
pass rusher. I thought what Philly did in adding Jail
and Phillips was good, but you know that is I
am I And I also, if I were Veach, I
probably would have also held my ground because it's like, really, Jets,
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you're gonna after trading away Sauce and quinnin, you're gonna
hold on to a running back who you're just gonna
let walk in free agency? And the the Jets were like, yeah,
we are. But I would have also, I would have
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Speaker 2 (32:29):
All right, Creams are the crop in the NFC. Are
going aad to head in Philly and green Bay. The
Packers are coming off a weird loss of the Panthers
and Philly's coming off of bye What are you expecting
in this game?
Speaker 1 (32:41):
So here, listen. I am I give Philly credit for
being you know, aggressive around the edges in free agents.
I'm sorry at the trade deadline and not making a
drastic move of trading AJ Brown. I didn't think that
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was zero percent. I thought there was a chance. And
the fact of the matter is they would have been
a worst team without AJ Brown and they're trying to
defend their Super Bowl. Now. Do I think they could
revisit that trade this offseason, depending on how the rest
of the year goes. Sure, but I think it was
good for them to staanm pat. This is a huge
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spot for green Bay and oddly not that big of
a spot for Philly. And here's what I mean. Because
of Jaden's injury and the Commanders just being bad and
the Cowboys being three to five and one, Philly is
more than more than the Colts, even the lock to
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win that division. There is no team right now in
the entire NFL that is more guaranteed to win their
division than Philadelphia, So now they of course would love
the one seed, and the NFC they have a real
shot at the one seed because you've got to think demons.
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The NFC West teams are gonna beat each other up
a bit in divisional games, with Seattle, the Rams, and
the Niners all having six wins, and the NFC North
teams are gonna beat each other up a bit in
the division, with Green Bay, Detroit, and Chicago all having
five wins and Minnesota sitting there with four. So you'd
have to anticipate that the one seed at this point
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is either gonna be Philly or Tampa. And Philly obviously
beat Tampa, so they have the head dead Tibreger. So
Philly is really well positioned, which is why this game
is not critical for them. But they are coming off
a bye and I'm sure they want to see, are they,
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you know, is Saquon going to Was Week eight for
Saquon a return to form or was it a bit
of a you know, was it a blip in what's
going to be a tough year. Green Bay on the
other hand, their margin for error is evaporating. They're currently
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leading the NFC North, but barely. And there is absolutely
a world that exists where if green Bay loses this game,
they wake up, what is this Monday night? Tuesday more?
(35:51):
I think it's the Monday night game? Am I right?
You guys tell me I don't even remember whatever. They
wake up next week Tuesday morning, and they are on
the outside looking in of the playoff picture. They could
be the eight seed come Tuesday if they lose this game.
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And if you look at their schedule, pal they only
have one soft spot left at the Giants, but they
play Philly, then they're at the Giants. They have five
divisional games left, both games against Minnesota, both games against
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Chicago at Detroit, and then the non divisional games are
at Denver and home for Baltimore. So I still think
green Bay has super high upside, But you lose this game,
you know there's going to be potentially a really good
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NFC team left without a chair, and I don't think
that's gonna be green Bay. And green Bay again, like
that win against Detroit to start the year looms really
large in how we view them. Them dominating the Commanders
that next Thursday when they did have Jaden is significant
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and they you know, that was a really good win
they had over the Steelers, but losing to the Browns,
blowing that game against Carolina and tying the Cowboys right
now puts them in a precarious spot. So this is
a big game for green Bay, big enough game that
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I I thought long and hard about it for our
pick show, which people will here here tomorrow. We'll get
to that later. But there's a big spot for green Bay.
And I wouldn't want to be facing Philly off a bye.
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A healthy Eagles team off of bye makes me a lot.
Speaker 2 (38:13):
Last time George loves seeing the Eagles wasn't so good either,
might have had his most mistakes in recent memory.
Speaker 1 (38:19):
Oh absolutely, And and so yeah, it's a huge spot.
All right, let's get to Rams Niners.
Speaker 2 (38:25):
Rams and Niners are facing off this weekend, and this
kid have huge implications on the playoff bracket. We still
don't know who the quarterback is for San Francisco long term,
but Shanahan says that as long as Perty's good, it's
going to be him who has more to lose or
more to prove in this game between the Rams and Niners.
Speaker 1 (38:43):
Well, listen the so Shanahan's been very adamant. Party's their guy,
and that's fine. I don't listen. I don't think Mac
Jones is better than Party. I just don't think perty's
fifty four million dollars a year better than Mac Jones
and so, and I think Mac is kind of proving
that week in week out, and I think Shanahan has
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done a brilliant job this season. Here's what I'll say
about the Niners. If they win this game, they are
going to make the playoffs. You win this game, you
get to seven and three, and they still have games
left against the Cardinals, the Browns, and the Titans. They're
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you know, that's obviously not all their games. They have Panthers,
which is not an easy spot. Bears Seahawks is also
on their schedule. But if they can get to seven
and three by beating the Rams, you just beat the
bad teams on your schedule. You get to ten, get
one more win against the the they have Panthers, Colts, Bears,
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Seahawks or the winning record teams on their schedule, you're
gonna be eleven wins. So this is for the Niners.
It would be pretty remarkable giving their injuries. Start seven
to three. My concern for the Niners is they are
They just keep pressing the Christian McCaffrey button again and
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again and again, and I worry about his ability to
hold up over the course of the entire season. The Rams,
on the other hand, listen, right now this moment, Matt
Stafford's probably the NFL MVP, and they've just been awesome.
They absolutely can win the Super Bowl. With that said
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there that is you lose this game, you probably heading
a week eleven in third place in your own division
because Seattle's legit. Seattle is legit and so and the
Niners will have just beaten you. So I do like
the Rams in this spot, and I think the Rams
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are a legit contender no matter what happens here. To me,
this game is more about if the Niners can steal
it at home, and we know there's the whole Shanahan McVeigh,
you know, kind of coaching rivalry, then it all but
stamps the Niners playoff ticket. Hey guys, it is the
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get to the Seahawks. All right.
Speaker 2 (43:28):
The six and two Seahawks that lead their division made
a move in the trade deadline, trading for Rashid wide receiver.
Rashid Chi e JSM leads the NFL in reception yards,
but outside him, nobody on Seattle has three hundred plus yards.
You said Seattle could be the one seed and they
were also near the top of tiers. What does this
do for them? Where they at now?
Speaker 1 (43:49):
Listen? I think Seattle's legit. Yeah, I Darnald is now
on like twenty five games of just being a high
level quarterback, I understand, and the playoff game was brutal
for him. Mike McDonald's been awesome, the defense has been awesome.
JSN is right now the first team All Pro wide receiver, right.
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I think Rashid Shaheed is really good, and so Seattle.
I am, you know, more than penciling Seattle in for
the playoffs, but I'm really they have four awesome games remaining,
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both games against the Rams, a home game against the Colts,
and Week eighteen at the Niners, which Seattle could be
playing for the division or as I said, playing for
the one seed, the Niners could be playing to make
the playoffs. I mean, Seattle has been just flatly an
outstanding team this year and they have two losses. One
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they led the Niners late. Purty has a touchdown drive
in the waning moments to give the Niners a four
point lead. In Week one, Darnald Answers right back, gets
the Seahawks in the red zone and then fumbles. That's
one of their losses. And their other loss was a
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three point loss to Tampa. When how did trying to
remember the beats of that game? I don't hold on
how did they lose to Tampa. I think it was
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last second it was a last second field goal, but
it was Oh, that's what it was. So this was
it was a Baker but it was a crazy circumstance.
It wasn't really a Baker drive. Baker had a drive.
This is how that game went. That game was crazy.
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In the fourth quarter, it's twenty eight to twenty eight.
Donald Leaves leads a ninety nine yard touchdown drive to
go up thirty five twenty eight. Baker enters back with
a five place, seventy yard drive to tie the game
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with a minute eight left, thirty five thirty five. They
then picked Donald off and then got a field goal
at the gun. So the one of the Seahawks losses
was Week one by four points. The other one they're
up seven with ninety seconds left and lost in regulation. So,
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I mean, they've been just a legit excellent team all year.
They haven't had the toughest of competition up to this point.
Beat the Steelers in Week two and then Saints, Cards, Jags, Texans, Commanders.
But I believe it. I believe in the Seahawks. And
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you know, one of my picks this past week was
Seattle minus three on Sunday Night Football. They were up
twenty eight to nothing in that game.
Speaker 2 (47:29):
You're sticking with them in the playoffs, even with Dornald.
That doesn't well make you think any type of way.
Speaker 1 (47:34):
Or I mean, I'll be a little anxious until you
see a guy play well in the playoffs, you're gonna
be a little anxious. But he was so good last year,
and his aunt followed it up this year by being
so good without Kevin O'Connell. Like, at some point I
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All right, Demons, let's go to Kyler before we get
to listener questions.
Speaker 2 (48:35):
Since we talked about him on Tuesday, he's been benched
Arizona Naambriussett as their guy. You said Kyler would never
play for Arizona again. With that said, is this a
Kyler problem or is this a Cardinal problem?
Speaker 1 (48:48):
Probably a little bit of both. Okay, but Kyler's not
the guy. Kyler's new you can't be. I mean, just
think about it, guys. We have heard plenty of story
worries about his lack of leadership at that position. The
team put in a work at the clause in his
own contract and he's undersized and gets beat up. Like
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I that's not a recipe. And so the only way
Demon's he plays for the Cardinals again is if at
the end of the year they fire Gannon and the
new head coach you know, is like, oh, I can
fix it, but Jonathan Gannon can never go back to
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Kyler Murray. That's done, and I would be looking if
if Rogers retires. The Steelers are a real candidate. The
Browns are always a candidate, The Jets are a candidate.
The Raiders if they go full rebuild and want Kyler
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is a bridge. They're a candidate, but he's not going
to be.
Speaker 2 (49:56):
On the royal.
Speaker 1 (49:58):
Oh he goes to baseball. No, I I don't see.
I think that ship has sailed. He was a great
baseball player, but I think that ship has sailed. And
the Cardinals feel like you know that they the offense
runs better with Jacobi.
Speaker 2 (50:17):
I mean you said it does.
Speaker 1 (50:19):
I mean, it just does. It just it just is
what it is. All right, let's get to listener questions
to Mansea.
Speaker 2 (50:26):
You honest tweeted tweeted this out yesterday. He I think,
he said, as I said load of the tweet, random
thoughts as I sit in my living room, do I
have college eligibility? Can I suit up for Marquette tonight?
And the question is how many points do you think
that Giannis are dropping a college basketball game? Oh?
Speaker 1 (50:48):
I mean I think he'd average, you know, or shorter.
Speaker 2 (50:54):
Yeah, they are short. I was gonna say like thirty eight,
so it's probably thirty. No, No, he's.
Speaker 1 (51:00):
Gonna say forty. I mean he's averaging thirty four in
the NBA, but the games are a lot like No,
I think he averaged forty easy. Uh, I think he average.
Speaker 2 (51:09):
Four drive do drive double drive us?
Speaker 1 (51:13):
All right.
Speaker 2 (51:13):
Next Scott asked for next season, should the Jets ride
out Justin Fields contract draft and start a rookie yar
trade for Kyler?
Speaker 1 (51:22):
So I'm trying to see, uh, for Justin Fields? What
if they cut him? They cut him, it's twenty two dead.
I mean, they obviously can't just go into week one
as Justin Fields their week one starter. Now, could he
be the backup? Could if they do draft a guy,
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could they use Justin Fields as a bridge?
Speaker 2 (51:45):
Maybe?
Speaker 1 (51:46):
But I think that's probably done. I would again, I
wouldn't trade for Kyler if I'm the Jets. The Jets
have to find their quarterback. Yeah, all right.
Speaker 2 (51:57):
Next, a different Scott as, if it's Casey and Buffalo
at the Ralph for the at THEFC check.
Speaker 1 (52:06):
On the stadium in Buffalo. Okay, you should be called
Ralph Wilson Stadium. Now it's called like high Mark Field.
But so that's uh yeah.
Speaker 2 (52:17):
So a different Scott asked if if it's Casey and
Buffalo at the Ralph of the AFC Championship game, will
you go to the game this time?
Speaker 1 (52:23):
I will not. I have no interest in that. I
will absolutely not go to the game. All right, I
have a really good feeling about our pick show. This week.
I liked the games a lot. I liked him a lot.
Last week I said I liked him a lot. Went
three and two. So frustrating though, because I do the
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picks here pick five games, and then I picked three
of the five games from here to do on TV.
We went three and two, and two of the three
games I picked were my two losses one and two
on TV. Mpree into here, which is frustrating. So pic
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Welcome in. We'll drive in the great episode three eighty eight.
As we get to week ten, I can't believe it.
Week ten in the NFL, as we react to the
trade deadline and a little bit of NBA as well
as the Lakers kept us up quite late last night,
and Luca reminded everyone more on this than just a
(00:24):
second that Wimby might be coming. But he's not quite
there yet. And we will, in fact, you know what
we will before we get to trade deadline. We're gonna
do a little bit on the Lakers in the Spurs.
But this episode of the show is brought to you
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(00:44):
straight to voicemail, brought to you by boost Mobile. Zion
out seven to ten days with a hamstring injury. At
this point, let's just do send in the Zion for
Joh trade. Jos lost his joy. The Grizzlies are a mess.
The Pelicans are a mess, like they were one two
in a draft. Just see if that fixes anything for
either one of these guys. I have two. Which of
(01:06):
my fake Joh trades do you like more? My three
team maligned Southeastern point guard trade of John to Charlotte
LaMelo to Atlanta trade of Memphis or joh for Zion?
Straight up, which one do you like more?
Speaker 2 (01:22):
The first one? I think. I think the Pelicans probably
want Zion more than they want Jah turning a corner.
He's just kind of hamstring thing going on right now.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Oh yeah, he's turning the corner, except for the fact
that he has now hurt again. I mean, and the
Pelican drafted Derek Queen, who's a little redundant with Zion.
I don't know those teams. Both teams are a mess
for being totally honest. And this is if I didn't
say the straight to voicemail brought to you by Boost
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Lakers get a great win last night against the Spurs.
So let's just talk about that for a second. Luca's
been absolutely historically great in the games he's played. Only
Wilt has ever scored more points through the opening five
(02:12):
games of a season, and he did it twice. Then
Luca's even two hundred through the first five games this year.
And the listen, the Spurs have been excellent, and I
understand the Spurs are dealing with injuries of their own.
But it is hard not to look at the Lakers
(02:36):
with no Lebron, with Austin having missed time, and obviously
Luca's missed some time as well, sitting at seven and
two alone in second place in the Eastern Conference, only
behind the Thunder and obviously I shouldn't say obviously and
(02:57):
shockingly the Chicago Bulls for overall record in the NBA.
But it's very hard to look at Luca doing what
he's doing and the Lakers sitting at seven and two,
and then not also look at the Mavericks doing what
they're doing, sitting in dead last in the Western Conference
(03:21):
at two and six, and not revisit what is will
go down in history as one of the most inexplicable, indefensible,
unforced errors a franchise has ever made. And I know
there was a very brief moment when people were like, well,
(03:43):
now that they've gotten Cooper Flag, maybe it all works out. Demons.
I'm here to tell you if Nico Harrison today called
up Rob Bolenka and said we will trade you Anthony
(04:03):
Davis and Cooper Flag for Luka Doncic, they would say, no,
that is and the how good is Luca. Really, conversation
that was briefly had last year was categorically insane from
start to finish, and up to this moment of the season,
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he's been either the best or the second best player
in the sport. Giannis is playing at a just incomprehensible
level and Luca has missed time. But Luca giving you
a nice tidy forty eleven and nine on fifty percent shooting,
(04:52):
despite shooting thirty percent from three, has just been not
shocking because you know how good he is, but remarkable
and it's why you know a lot of people This
isn't me picking on Bill, but Bill probably the most
(05:16):
noteworthy of the folks that coming into the year, we're
just totally, unabashedly, unequivocally writing the Lakers off as having
any chance, any chance to be a real contender. And
the reason that struck me as a little myopic was, Man,
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if you had all of NBA history tells us, if
you have a clear cut top three guy, unless the
team is just in total shambles around him, you're at
least contender adjacent. And Luca has been a clear cut
top three guy. Obviously, again, the honest has been great
(06:05):
Shay has been unbelievable, and the thunder losing last night's
shocking because it's shocking that they lose. That team is
going to win seventy games if they want to. But
the Lakers surviving this stretch of no Lebron, Luca in
and out of the lineup, beating the Spurs who have
(06:28):
been red hot, and now say it again like yeah,
I mean and Reeves obviously playing great. And now if
you're the Lakers, I don't know when Lebron's coming back.
But over the next two weeks you have Atlanta, Charlotte, OKC, Brutal,
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New Orleans, Milwalk that's a road trip, and then Utah Utah.
So you've got seven games over the next two and
a half weeks, all of them on the road, except
for one game against Utah before you start a homestand
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which is maybe where they would hope Lebron could come back.
And the expectation should be to go five and two
in that seven game stretch, at the very least four
and three and be eleven and five, twelve and four
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through the first month and a half of the season,
well really the first month of the season, which would
be phenomenal and so Luca's just playing out of his mind,
just absolutely out of his mind. And Austin, when Luca
wasn't there, was playing out of his mind, and you
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thought I was gonna skip it. Demonse, credit where it's due.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Minutes last night.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
No, no, no, I'm not talking, Bronnie. I'm talking. I'm talking.
I don't know if it's fair to call him your
guy guy.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Dere Yeah, dominating. He showed up last night. He's been good.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
He was really rough very early on, but twenty two
and ten last night when they were super shorthanded, twenty
nine and ten against the Blazers. The no, he's been
he's he's played well for him, and so fair is fair.
(08:46):
Credit to Blinka, a lot of credit to JJ Reddick
who has this team ready to play every night, and
Jake la Ravia has done well. They're legit. They're legit
seven and two beating the Spurs, uh without Austin Reeves
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and obviously no lebron And they did try to blow
it at the end, but whatever, like that's the way,
you know, not at all now. I didn't. I didn't
write them off because of the respect for Luca and
because I felt like when Lebron comes back, they'll still
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be one of the only teams in the league with
two top ten guys, because that's what we'll see what
Lebron is this year. But last year he was a
clear top eight guy. But no, I didn't think they'd
be able to handle Lebron missing the first ten games,
plus Austin being out of the lineup some, Luca being
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out of the lineup some, and I mean they've been
they've been excellent. So credit to the Lakers. All right,
let's get to the trade line.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
Super big, super busy trade deadline yesterday, and a lot
of it formulated around the Jets getting rid of players
because they can't do anything, trading over to Dallas and Indianapolis.
Which team would you like to start with first?
Speaker 1 (10:13):
I want to start with the Cowboys, Okay, so yeah,
go ahead.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
After trading for Logan Wilson, Dallas followed up by trading
a Hall first in a second, I believe for Quinn Williams. Yep,
Jerry Jones is talking about how he wants to win
now because of his age. Doesn't kind of seem like
their season is already over.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Well, their seasons definitely already over, And I explained this
in short form on TV, but I am going to
lay it out further here. They barely barely got more
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for Micah Parsons than they traded away for Quinn Williams.
So let's do the actual accounting of what the Cowboys
got for Micah Parsons. Okay, they got the next two
Packer first round picks, which we obviously don't know what
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picks those will be. But this year, the Packers right
now have the twenty fourth pick of the draft. It
would you know, it could go up if they go
on a real playoff run. It could go down if
they get bounced in round one, but that's what they have.
And then next year's Packers' first round pick, and they
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got Kenny Clark more on him in a moment. For
quinnn Williams, they traded away their own second round pick,
which right now would be the forty sixth pick of
the draft. So again in the Ka trade and quinnin trade,
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they received what would be the twenty fourth pick and
sent out what would be the forty sixth pick, so
a twenty two pick jump. Will see how those move,
but that's a good framework, and then they will be
sending out whatever is the better pick between their own
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first after next season and the Packers first after next season.
So there is no chance whatsoever none that for the
twenty twenty seven first rounder that they receive a better
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pick from the Packers than they give to the Jets,
because whatever the better pick is, they give to the Jets.
And then you add to it that, because you have
traded for Quinn Williams and signed Oshia Digazua to an extension,
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you almost assuredly are this offseason cutting Kenny Clark. The
best case scenario for the Cowboys is the different in
draft compensation they gave up for Quinn Williams compared to
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what they received for Micah Parsons is the equivalent of
about a third round pick. And the worst case scenario
is they actually ended up giving up more for Quinn
Williams than they received for Micah Parsons. And you might say,
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how could that be, Well, here's how it could be.
The Cowboys in up drafting tenth in this year's draft,
so that'd be second round pick forty two. The Packers
make it forget even win the Super Bowl, make it
to the conference championship game, they give up, so they
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give to Dallas' first round pick twenty nine, so that's
a thirteen pick delta. Next year, the Packers make it
back to the conference championship game, they give Dallas the
twenty ninth pick again, and next year Dak Prescott gets hurt.
The Cowboys have a year from hell and they end
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up getting or hell. They just have the same year
they had this year where Dak doesn't get hurt and
they but they have a bad year. They have the
tenth pick of that draft and they give that pick
to the Jets. It is absolutely on the board. What
they receive from Green Bay are two picks in the
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late twenties, and what they give to the Jets is
a pick in the low forties and a pick in
the teams, which is when you are sending out a
more valuable younger player. Just totally unacceptable. I understand quinnin
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is cheaper than Micah, but that is not enough to
offset the difference in value of the players impact on
the field. And so this Cowboys move, even if Quinn
Williams is really good and I think he is, is
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as baffling of an NFL trade as you'll see for years,
and it totally goes against demons. Jerry's whole take, which
was trading.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Micah defense stop the run.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
Well, no, no, no, stop the run part of it. It
does work because cornewilliams better at that than Micah, but
he kept saying, we'll be able to get three or
four players. You got two extra picks for Micah, you
gave two extra picks up for Quinnen. And again that
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the Cowboys agreeing to send the better of the two
picks they have in the twenty twenty seven draft is
unfathomable because here's the other piece of it. Let's say
Jordan Love a year from now gets hurt and the
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Packers fall off a cliff in a very difficult NFC North,
and the Packers have the sixth pick of the draft
two years from now. You don't get that now. That
goes to the Jets.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
So it's right in line with everything else that's been
going on with the Cowboys and Jerry. It makes sense.
It doesn't make sense for it makes sense for Jerry
to be doing it.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
Yes, it's just awful business. Now the Colts piece of
it is more understandable, but somehow even riskier. So go ahead.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
The Colts are seeming to go all in on Daniel Jones.
They traded two first rounders to get Sauce Gardner. Do
you think that this is a little bit too earlier
for them?
Speaker 1 (17:55):
I I respect the guts, and unlike the Dallas move,
you at least see the logic of it. The logic
of it is, we have our quarterback, we like our team,
We are trying to win right now, Let's add a
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blue chip player, which Sauce has been at the first
two years of his career. He has not been the
last year and a half. But you know, you know,
he's young, and he's on a cost control deal. You
believe they obviously believe you can get back to it.
So that's the logic of it. It is the exact
same logic that led to the Dolphins trading for Tyreek,
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that led to the Packers trading for Micah. We we
love our team, think adding one more piece can put
us over the top. Oh, I understand it. I think
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it's one of the riskiest moves I have seen a
team make in ten years. So here are the circumstances
over the last decade. Demonse that teams have traded away
multiple first round picks for a player not during the draft,
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but for an established player. The Chicago Bears traded two
first round picks for Khalil Mack. They did that one
year after spending the second pick of the draft on
Mitch Krubisky. They were wrong, but they thought, we've got
our quarterback. Let's go add to the defense. The Rams
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traded two first round picks away for Jalen Ramsey. They
did that month's removed from going to the Super Bowl
with golf. They said, we've got our quarterback, let's add
to the defense. Again. They ended up souring on that quarterback,
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but they believed they had the quarterback. The Jets, I'm sorry.
The Seahawks traded away two first round picks for Jamal
Adams in twenty twenty. They believed Russell's you know we're
gonna be our quarterback long term. Let's go at another
piece again. That trade was a catastrophe, but they had
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real reason to believe their quarterback was in place. Obviously,
The Packers traded away two first rounders for Micah and
I might be leaving one out for the Colts to
be doing this, not only when it's just been a
half season of good Daniel Jones but and this part's
(20:55):
important to manse. They don't even have Daniel Jones locked
up on a contract is stunning.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
I mean the Bears go ahead, I mean Daniel, like
Daniel could leave or something or leave them high and
dry or no.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
But they are now over a barrel on back.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
Oh, it's because when it comes time, cap space is
already too high.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
That's fair well, and it's it's the it's how are
you going to replace me? You don't have a first
round pick this year or next year, and the franchise
tag number is forty six million dollars.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
Daniel Jones, I guess strikes me as a team friendly
type of guy.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
I buddy, he already got four years one sixty from
the Giants when they were in this situation. I don't know,
know like.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
The he.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
The Colts have put themselves in a position now where
Daniel is gonna get all call my shout on it
right now, four years, one hundred and eighty million dollars
forty five million dollars a year. And the other piece
of it that is wildly risky if you're the Colts,
(22:17):
is they even if you believe Daniel Jones is just good,
bad circumstances, bad luck, bad coaching with the Giants. Dating
back to his last year of college, there has been
(22:39):
one season he was fully healthy. So you are putting
all in college, he broke his collar bone. In the pros,
he's torn his acl out, a neck injury, an ankle
out of hamstring. You are putting all your eggs in
this basket in a way that is stunning to me. Stunning.
(23:03):
They have painted themselves in a corner where yep, we
saw eight good games from Daniel Jones. I know they've
played nine, but the last one was awful. Eight good
games from Daniel Jones, and now we are gonna remove
any ability we have to pivot at that position. And
(23:29):
it's gutsy, it is. It's a real go all in move.
I just wonder how it's gonna feel if this season
ends with them hosting a wild card playoff game against
(23:52):
the Patriots and getting beat and they're one and done
and it's like, Okay, this is just our team now.
Like I wouldn't have done it. I also think it
is fair to ask, is that too much to pay
(24:13):
for anything? Yeah? For any well, for any corner, pis
a lot it and so like would it shock anyone.
Here's the question I would have because when the Packers
traded for Micah, it was it would have shocked people.
(24:36):
If the Packers this year ended up with the ninth
pick of the draft, right like, that would have been stunning,
Right would it shock? Would it be shocking if next
year at this moment the culture three and six? Would
(24:57):
that shock people? Wouldn't shock me? And so it is
Their past defense was bad. Lou Ana Arumo now has
a great that probably the best corner he's ever had
since he's been a coordinator. It's a hell of a move,
but it would have been too rich for my blood.
(25:18):
That's the thing. The Cowboys and the Colts making moves
that I think would have been insane for the Chiefs
or the Bills to make. Is something else. All right,
let's get to the other side of.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
These the Jets. They now have five first round picks
over the next two years, so surely they can't mess
this up, right they They're probably gonna get it on
the track.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
Well, I mean, this is the exact situation they found
themselves in which got him Quinnin and Sauce and Garrett
Wilson and then they you know, they're now full blown,
blown it up.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Just got to get the quarterback, right.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
Yeah, so I respect the Jets recognizing we are nowhere
close and by the time we get close, Quinnin is
probably out of his prime. Right he turns twenty eight
here in a couple of weeks and sauce, I'm sure
(26:28):
they wanted to keep but too first is just too
rich of a price, particularly when it's too first from
again from a team that's not like an established, every
year good team. And so now, yeah, you've got a
draft smart And if I'm the Jets, i am potentially
(26:50):
in this year's draft, I'm open for business as well.
I might move down there's not a quarterback I love.
I might be willing to trade my own pick, which
could be you know, the first, second, third, fourth pick
of the draft, for even more draft capital and try
(27:14):
to full on fully rebuild the team. It is good process.
They just have to hit on these players. And I
understand people can say, oh, the draft's a crap shoot.
Here's the thing it, Yes, the draft is a crap shoot.
But the fact of the matter is this, if you
(27:36):
have a no doubt franchise quarterback on your team, unless
your team unless your quarterback's name is Dak Prescott or
Jalen Hurts. That quarterback was taken in round one. Every
(27:58):
people can talk all this stuff about, oh, well you
can find quarterbacks anywhere. No, every single team that has
the no doubt franchise quarterback, that quarterback was a first
round pick except for Dak and Jail. That's it. Like,
(28:19):
who are the no doubt franchise quarterbacks? They were first
round picks. So the Jets acquiring a bunch of first
round picks for a team that hasn't been able to
get quarterback right is obviously something they need to do.
And so I I don't begrudge it, begrudge them that
(28:42):
I do feel badly for their fans because it's just
perpetual rebuild too.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
Man, Like we just gave away everybody because you're trash.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
Well yeah, I mean we'll feel I mean, Fields isn't
the guy. I mean, just he isn't the guy? What's
the point?
Speaker 2 (28:59):
Like? Feels how bad for that? I like justin Fields? Oh,
but Kansas City, they were trying to trade a fourth
for Breese Hall. The Jets wanted a third. Are you
surprised that they couldn't get anything?
Speaker 1 (29:09):
Done there no listen, I trading a third round pick
for eight games of Breese Hall and then he walks
in free agency would have been bad process. I and
I think the Chief the Chiefs offense is gonna be fine.
They need the offensive lineman back, and the offense is
gonna be great. I'm not worried about the offense. I
(29:29):
would have liked them to try to trade for a
pass rusher. I thought what Philly did in adding Jail
and Phillips was good, but you know that is I
am I And I also, if I were Veach, I
probably would have also held my ground because it's like, really, Jets,
(29:49):
you're gonna after trading away Sauce and quinnin, you're gonna
hold on to a running back who you're just gonna
let walk in free agency? And the the Jets were like, yeah,
we are. But I would have also, I would have
played that game of chicken. I'm surprised the Jets didn't
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Speaker 2 (32:29):
All right, Creams are the crop in the NFC. Are
going aad to head in Philly and green Bay. The
Packers are coming off a weird loss of the Panthers
and Philly's coming off of bye What are you expecting
in this game?
Speaker 1 (32:41):
So here, listen. I am I give Philly credit for
being you know, aggressive around the edges in free agents.
I'm sorry at the trade deadline and not making a
drastic move of trading AJ Brown. I didn't think that
(33:05):
was zero percent. I thought there was a chance. And
the fact of the matter is they would have been
a worst team without AJ Brown and they're trying to
defend their Super Bowl. Now. Do I think they could
revisit that trade this offseason, depending on how the rest
of the year goes. Sure, but I think it was
good for them to staanm pat. This is a huge
(33:34):
spot for green Bay and oddly not that big of
a spot for Philly. And here's what I mean. Because
of Jaden's injury and the Commanders just being bad and
the Cowboys being three to five and one, Philly is
more than more than the Colts, even the lock to
(34:00):
win that division. There is no team right now in
the entire NFL that is more guaranteed to win their
division than Philadelphia, So now they of course would love
the one seed, and the NFC they have a real
shot at the one seed because you've got to think demons.
(34:22):
The NFC West teams are gonna beat each other up
a bit in divisional games, with Seattle, the Rams, and
the Niners all having six wins, and the NFC North
teams are gonna beat each other up a bit in
the division, with Green Bay, Detroit, and Chicago all having
five wins and Minnesota sitting there with four. So you'd
have to anticipate that the one seed at this point
(34:45):
is either gonna be Philly or Tampa. And Philly obviously
beat Tampa, so they have the head dead Tibreger. So
Philly is really well positioned, which is why this game
is not critical for them. But they are coming off
a bye and I'm sure they want to see, are they,
(35:06):
you know, is Saquon going to Was Week eight for
Saquon a return to form or was it a bit
of a you know, was it a blip in what's
going to be a tough year. Green Bay on the
other hand, their margin for error is evaporating. They're currently
(35:30):
leading the NFC North, but barely. And there is absolutely
a world that exists where if green Bay loses this game,
they wake up, what is this Monday night? Tuesday more?
(35:51):
I think it's the Monday night game? Am I right?
You guys tell me I don't even remember whatever. They
wake up next week Tuesday morning, and they are on
the outside looking in of the playoff picture. They could
be the eight seed come Tuesday if they lose this game.
(36:11):
And if you look at their schedule, pal they only
have one soft spot left at the Giants, but they
play Philly, then they're at the Giants. They have five
divisional games left, both games against Minnesota, both games against
(36:35):
Chicago at Detroit, and then the non divisional games are
at Denver and home for Baltimore. So I still think
green Bay has super high upside, But you lose this game,
you know there's going to be potentially a really good
(37:01):
NFC team left without a chair, and I don't think
that's gonna be green Bay. And green Bay again, like
that win against Detroit to start the year looms really
large in how we view them. Them dominating the Commanders
that next Thursday when they did have Jaden is significant
(37:26):
and they you know, that was a really good win
they had over the Steelers, but losing to the Browns,
blowing that game against Carolina and tying the Cowboys right
now puts them in a precarious spot. So this is
a big game for green Bay, big enough game that
(37:50):
I I thought long and hard about it for our
pick show, which people will here here tomorrow. We'll get
to that later. But there's a big spot for green Bay.
And I wouldn't want to be facing Philly off a bye.
(38:10):
A healthy Eagles team off of bye makes me a lot.
Speaker 2 (38:13):
Last time George loves seeing the Eagles wasn't so good either,
might have had his most mistakes in recent memory.
Speaker 1 (38:19):
Oh absolutely, And and so yeah, it's a huge spot.
All right, let's get to Rams Niners.
Speaker 2 (38:25):
Rams and Niners are facing off this weekend, and this
kid have huge implications on the playoff bracket. We still
don't know who the quarterback is for San Francisco long term,
but Shanahan says that as long as Perty's good, it's
going to be him who has more to lose or
more to prove in this game between the Rams and Niners.
Speaker 1 (38:43):
Well, listen the so Shanahan's been very adamant. Party's their guy,
and that's fine. I don't listen. I don't think Mac
Jones is better than Party. I just don't think perty's
fifty four million dollars a year better than Mac Jones
and so, and I think Mac is kind of proving
that week in week out, and I think Shanahan has
(39:06):
done a brilliant job this season. Here's what I'll say
about the Niners. If they win this game, they are
going to make the playoffs. You win this game, you
get to seven and three, and they still have games
left against the Cardinals, the Browns, and the Titans. They're
(39:31):
you know, that's obviously not all their games. They have Panthers,
which is not an easy spot. Bears Seahawks is also
on their schedule. But if they can get to seven
and three by beating the Rams, you just beat the
bad teams on your schedule. You get to ten, get
one more win against the the they have Panthers, Colts, Bears,
(39:55):
Seahawks or the winning record teams on their schedule, you're
gonna be eleven wins. So this is for the Niners.
It would be pretty remarkable giving their injuries. Start seven
to three. My concern for the Niners is they are
They just keep pressing the Christian McCaffrey button again and
(40:17):
again and again, and I worry about his ability to
hold up over the course of the entire season. The Rams,
on the other hand, listen, right now this moment, Matt
Stafford's probably the NFL MVP, and they've just been awesome.
They absolutely can win the Super Bowl. With that said
(40:39):
there that is you lose this game, you probably heading
a week eleven in third place in your own division
because Seattle's legit. Seattle is legit and so and the
Niners will have just beaten you. So I do like
the Rams in this spot, and I think the Rams
(41:01):
are a legit contender no matter what happens here. To me,
this game is more about if the Niners can steal
it at home, and we know there's the whole Shanahan McVeigh,
you know, kind of coaching rivalry, then it all but
stamps the Niners playoff ticket. Hey guys, it is the
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get to the Seahawks. All right.
Speaker 2 (43:28):
The six and two Seahawks that lead their division made
a move in the trade deadline, trading for Rashid wide receiver.
Rashid Chi e JSM leads the NFL in reception yards,
but outside him, nobody on Seattle has three hundred plus yards.
You said Seattle could be the one seed and they
were also near the top of tiers. What does this
do for them? Where they at now?
Speaker 1 (43:49):
Listen? I think Seattle's legit. Yeah, I Darnald is now
on like twenty five games of just being a high
level quarterback, I understand, and the playoff game was brutal
for him. Mike McDonald's been awesome, the defense has been awesome.
JSN is right now the first team All Pro wide receiver, right.
(44:13):
I think Rashid Shaheed is really good, and so Seattle.
I am, you know, more than penciling Seattle in for
the playoffs, but I'm really they have four awesome games remaining,
(44:37):
both games against the Rams, a home game against the Colts,
and Week eighteen at the Niners, which Seattle could be
playing for the division or as I said, playing for
the one seed, the Niners could be playing to make
the playoffs. I mean, Seattle has been just flatly an
outstanding team this year and they have two losses. One
(45:05):
they led the Niners late. Purty has a touchdown drive
in the waning moments to give the Niners a four
point lead. In Week one, Darnald Answers right back, gets
the Seahawks in the red zone and then fumbles. That's
one of their losses. And their other loss was a
(45:27):
three point loss to Tampa. When how did trying to
remember the beats of that game? I don't hold on
how did they lose to Tampa. I think it was
(45:48):
last second it was a last second field goal, but
it was Oh, that's what it was. So this was
it was a Baker but it was a crazy circumstance.
It wasn't really a Baker drive. Baker had a drive.
This is how that game went. That game was crazy.
(46:10):
In the fourth quarter, it's twenty eight to twenty eight.
Donald Leaves leads a ninety nine yard touchdown drive to
go up thirty five twenty eight. Baker enters back with
a five place, seventy yard drive to tie the game
(46:31):
with a minute eight left, thirty five thirty five. They
then picked Donald off and then got a field goal
at the gun. So the one of the Seahawks losses
was Week one by four points. The other one they're
up seven with ninety seconds left and lost in regulation. So,
(46:56):
I mean, they've been just a legit excellent team all year.
They haven't had the toughest of competition up to this point.
Beat the Steelers in Week two and then Saints, Cards, Jags, Texans, Commanders.
But I believe it. I believe in the Seahawks. And
(47:18):
you know, one of my picks this past week was
Seattle minus three on Sunday Night Football. They were up
twenty eight to nothing in that game.
Speaker 2 (47:29):
You're sticking with them in the playoffs, even with Dornald.
That doesn't well make you think any type of way.
Speaker 1 (47:34):
Or I mean, I'll be a little anxious until you
see a guy play well in the playoffs, you're gonna
be a little anxious. But he was so good last year,
and his aunt followed it up this year by being
so good without Kevin O'Connell. Like, at some point I
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All right, Demons, let's go to Kyler before we get
to listener questions.
Speaker 2 (48:35):
Since we talked about him on Tuesday, he's been benched
Arizona Naambriussett as their guy. You said Kyler would never
play for Arizona again. With that said, is this a
Kyler problem or is this a Cardinal problem?
Speaker 1 (48:48):
Probably a little bit of both. Okay, but Kyler's not
the guy. Kyler's new you can't be. I mean, just
think about it, guys. We have heard plenty of story
worries about his lack of leadership at that position. The
team put in a work at the clause in his
own contract and he's undersized and gets beat up. Like
(49:11):
I that's not a recipe. And so the only way
Demon's he plays for the Cardinals again is if at
the end of the year they fire Gannon and the
new head coach you know, is like, oh, I can
fix it, but Jonathan Gannon can never go back to
(49:33):
Kyler Murray. That's done, and I would be looking if
if Rogers retires. The Steelers are a real candidate. The
Browns are always a candidate, The Jets are a candidate.
The Raiders if they go full rebuild and want Kyler
(49:53):
is a bridge. They're a candidate, but he's not going
to be.
Speaker 2 (49:56):
On the royal.
Speaker 1 (49:58):
Oh he goes to baseball. No, I I don't see.
I think that ship has sailed. He was a great
baseball player, but I think that ship has sailed. And
the Cardinals feel like you know that they the offense
runs better with Jacobi.
Speaker 2 (50:17):
I mean you said it does.
Speaker 1 (50:19):
I mean, it just does. It just it just is
what it is. All right, let's get to listener questions
to Mansea.
Speaker 2 (50:26):
You honest tweeted tweeted this out yesterday. He I think,
he said, as I said load of the tweet, random
thoughts as I sit in my living room, do I
have college eligibility? Can I suit up for Marquette tonight?
And the question is how many points do you think
that Giannis are dropping a college basketball game? Oh?
Speaker 1 (50:48):
I mean I think he'd average, you know, or shorter.
Speaker 2 (50:54):
Yeah, they are short. I was gonna say like thirty eight,
so it's probably thirty. No, No, he's.
Speaker 1 (51:00):
Gonna say forty. I mean he's averaging thirty four in
the NBA, but the games are a lot like No,
I think he averaged forty easy. Uh, I think he average.
Speaker 2 (51:09):
Four drive do drive double drive us?
Speaker 1 (51:13):
All right.
Speaker 2 (51:13):
Next Scott asked for next season, should the Jets ride
out Justin Fields contract draft and start a rookie yar
trade for Kyler?
Speaker 1 (51:22):
So I'm trying to see, uh, for Justin Fields? What
if they cut him? They cut him, it's twenty two dead.
I mean, they obviously can't just go into week one
as Justin Fields their week one starter. Now, could he
be the backup? Could if they do draft a guy,
(51:43):
could they use Justin Fields as a bridge?
Speaker 2 (51:45):
Maybe?
Speaker 1 (51:46):
But I think that's probably done. I would again, I
wouldn't trade for Kyler if I'm the Jets. The Jets
have to find their quarterback. Yeah, all right.
Speaker 2 (51:57):
Next, a different Scott as, if it's Casey and Buffalo
at the Ralph for the at THEFC check.
Speaker 1 (52:06):
On the stadium in Buffalo. Okay, you should be called
Ralph Wilson Stadium. Now it's called like high Mark Field.
But so that's uh yeah.
Speaker 2 (52:17):
So a different Scott asked if if it's Casey and
Buffalo at the Ralph of the AFC Championship game, will
you go to the game this time?
Speaker 1 (52:23):
I will not. I have no interest in that. I
will absolutely not go to the game. All right, I
have a really good feeling about our pick show. This week.
I liked the games a lot. I liked him a lot.
Last week I said I liked him a lot. Went
three and two. So frustrating though, because I do the
(52:44):
picks here pick five games, and then I picked three
of the five games from here to do on TV.
We went three and two, and two of the three
games I picked were my two losses one and two
on TV. Mpree into here, which is frustrating. So pic
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