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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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have more of the Yankees coming up in about twenty minutes,
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because no, the Yankees lost and my dad is not happy.
That's all. That's all you need to know. My dad
is not happy. Uh, and stayed up to the end.
Tomorrow is gonna be and the thing him and the thing, no,
the thing we call him. No, no, no, we can't know.
My dad's had a lot of back problems the last
few days and he's not been feeling great.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
So yeah, he's trying to carry the pain. He uh, yeah,
Dad made his game. Didn't help his pain.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Can't carry the Yankees. No, And that's the thing, is
that like Yankees actually hurt it made it worse. He's yeah,
oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, his really hurts, right, He's like,
I can't get in a coach position to watch this crap. Okay,
that's what I get. Uh but yeah, No, he's not happy. No,
he's not happy. Now I would imagine not. I have
to bring him donuts and coffee tomorrow and say, hey,
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here you go. It's gonna help him back. That's gonna work. No no, no,
my dad might don't lets it work. No, no, no. My
dad's favorite things in the world, and it depends on
the order of how happy he is. My dad's favorite
things are the Yankees, the Golf Channel, little chocolate, donuts, ncis,
and coffee. My dad's four favorite things, out of order.
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That's his mad well in different orders like it. There's
never a time he's mad at coffee. Now, never a
time that he's mad at NCIS. Okay, is there time
that he's mad at the Yankees? Yeah? Is there time
that he's mad Golf Channel if one of his favorite
golfers isn't winning. Yeah, but he's never really mad about
coffee or NCIS. I can't bring him NCIS because you
can just get it any time on TV. So I'll
bring him coffee, Okay, urn coffee.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
NCI loves. He like episodes that feature jet throw gives
more or less.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Oh no, No, he's more of a new he's more
new to guy. Yeah he said, yeah, snot's running down
his nose. No, he's more new school from But I
say new school, I mean like not not twenty years ago,
but like ten years ago.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
And see you're an old grease you know, uh jet
throw Bodine Max Bear Junior is ninety two years old.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Wow, I did not know Sandy Kofax though, okay.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Not quite as good as but I mean he does
have a good mustache, I mean good hair.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
My dad. One of my dad's favorite things that's ever
happened to him here in La no, no, no, well, beating
Sandy Kofax, yes, but uh, seeing something I still need
to seeing Polly Perette. Uh like that. He called me,
guess who I just saw. I don't know who it
could beat? Really, yes, And then he called me and
he saw George Eads once. He was so excited. I'm like,
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oh wow. But when he saw Georgia.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Had multiple iterations in the city as.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
When he saw Pauli Perette. He was like, I'm like,
I was like, wow, it's like me meeting Curtis Martin.
He's like, I saw Paulli Perette. I just hear it.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
I was like, wow, did he try to take her
hands like Curtis Martin.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
No, my dad's one of those that's pretty cool. That's
that's my dad. That's what he is. But yeah, but coffee,
I mean clearly, coffee is always at the top of
the list for him. But those four favorite things any coffee?
Uh the places that he hates well, no, no, no, Bucks. No,
he's not the biggest Starbucks fan. But if I get him,
but if I get him dark roast and I tell
him it's from Coffee Bean, is he a duncan?
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (04:10):
He loves Dunkin Donuts, loves Duncan.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Uh, he likes coffee bean like I said, Winchles, Winchles
is okay to Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
He's any any place. My dad is more of a
straight up coffee flavored coffee guy, not like me where
I like the mochas and the taste and everything else. No, no, no,
my dad is straight up. Just give me the black coffee.
If it burns my tongue off, I'm fine.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Yeah, I don't necessarily need that latter part, but I'm
very much just he's good. He's good for me Winchles,
Coffee Duncan without like the little like I say, Oh, Dad,
do you want a nice coffee?
Speaker 1 (04:43):
I don't want a coffee drink. Just give me a coffee, okay, right,
that's fine. What what do you want? What do you want?
Dark roast? Okay?
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Dad? So that's all it's gonna take to numb the
pain for a walk. No, I don't think somebody will
help a little bit. You already get you a stack
of random Yankee cards so he can rip him in.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
He wants nothing, he wants nothing to do with the Yanks.
How much does he hate Aaron Boone? Right about him?
A lot the Yankee bullpenny, though he.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Gave him great, great happiness many years ago. No, no, no,
it's a long time ago.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
My dad always hates the bullpen the most, and it's
never Aaron Judge's fault. So that but that those are
the two, you know what to his defense this series,
it wasn't there. You really can't blame I told you
my dad's three favorite Yankees are Judge, Garrett Cole, and
Jazz Chisholm. But right now I think he and Jazz
Chisolm are on me.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
It might be on the ouse. Yeah, I don't, I don't.
I don't think he's in that. He's not in the
circle of trust anymore. Oh he loves Maddingly. Want to
bring him party?
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Yeah, he loves Maddening. Oh my dad would love to
party with Mattingly. Think he'd drink a coffee together. Oh
yeah in the Blue Jays clubhouse.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Hey, if that's what it takes right now, sure, so
bring madding Lee back.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
Uh will bring him? No, he's a blue Jay now,
he's been there three years now. Mat has been the
Blue Jays. Yeah, he's a blue Jay now. He's party
Yankee Stadium first time after a playoff win. He's partying
at Yankee Stadium as.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
A Blue Jay, as the bench coach he helped bring
them to victon.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
He's still there. The Blue Jays plane is probably left
to go back home, and he's like, now I'm gonna
stay here. He's walking the halls right now at Yankees,
talking to ushers and equipment managers and dies. He goes,
it's just excited. He's walking around. Yeah, hell my balls.
Uh So, more on the Yankees coming up in a
few minutes. But we watched the the Eagles. We'll watch
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the Eagles tomorrow night. We watched the Phillies stay alive
by beating the Dodgers eight to two, Game three of
the NLDS. Dodgers were going for the closer. They hit
Yamamoto early and they hit Clayton Kershaw late. Now this
is the tough one because there's two big things about
Clayton Kershaw is that he comes in the seventh inning,
and it was rough in the seventh inning, but he
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gets out of the seventh inning not giving up a run.
He walked to again twenty one pitches, nine strikes. This
was not a Clayton Kershaw knight. And I get saying, well,
the rest of our relievers are terrible, will leave men
again for the eighth because it's still a close game, right,
still three to one? Okay. He gives up a home
run to j. T. Rail Mutto, and then the floodgates open.
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He walks a player, Max Munsey makes an error, he
gives up a hit, another hit, another home run, and
all of a sudden, it's eight to two and Kershaw's
walking out, with this potentially being the last appearance of
his career. But you think, okay, hang on, neither dot,
just follow me on this for a second. If he's
not gonna pitch again the rest of this series because
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you can't trust him. Right, clearly, he is now one
of the other Dodger pitchers that you can't trust, like
Tanner Scott, like Blake Trony, and only came in because
it was eight to one tonight. So Kershaw's not gonna
pitch re us of.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
This, probably never gonna talk to David Vasse either, predicting
that he's gonna make an appearance.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
The Dodgers could lose the series, in which case Clayton
Kershaw's career is over. The Dodgers could get to the NLCS.
Do you really think they're gonna put Kershaw on the
roster after this outing tonight? This was so rough. He
had trouble commanding his pitches. He couldn't find the strike zone.
This wasn't a night where hey, all right, he got
hit a little bit, his pitch is a little fat
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over the plate. He could not command the baseball. This
is not this is not a situation of all right, well,
maybe we can see it and give them another chance.
I really, I know they wanted to do the right
thing by Kershaw, which we'll get to, but if you
asked me, I would honestly tell you that's the last
time we see Clayton Kershaw on a baseball field, because
I can't see the Dodgers keeping him on the roster
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into the next round. And threw on past this because
he's someone you can't trust. And if you can only
trust him one, if you only think he's gonna pitch
once in a while, can you use some innings for us?
You get other guys can do that they could also
bring in in higher leverage situations. I mean, Kershaw, it sucks,
it's awful, and it shouldn't end this way. But I
really feel like that's the last time we're gonna see
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the guy. And again it's it's terrible to see that
this being the last time where he just gets ripped
pillar to post, gives up two home runs, Kyle Schwarber
hits a home run, and he only gets out of
the inning because, you know, a line drive to the
center field wall is nabbed right at the wall, like
he just got beat around the park tonight. And it sucks.
But I think that's the last year're gonna see of
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Clayton Kersham. He's gonna like Emmett Smith with the Cardinal
on his helmet, Bill Belichick with the North Carolina Blue.
Clayton Kershaw getting hit against the Phillies in the in
the in the seventh and eighth innings of this game
tonight is the last time we're gonna see him.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Forty eight pitches, just twenty two strikes, hit hard, gives
up the home run to lead off the eighth from
Real Muto, and it just didn't get any better. And
the whole time we're sitting here wondering why there's nobody
up and throwing, they keep showing the dugout images of
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an uncomfortable Dave Roberts, but nothing going on in the bullpen,
and it just continues to go that you have the
error from Muncie play that should have been made, misjudge
the short hop and helped exacerbate issues, but ultimately you
needed the big flyout at the wall where you didn't
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even think he had it.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
No, I'm like, oh this is there is no security
inside the park home run like he's gonna crash into
the wall.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
It's gonna be inside the parker. Yeah, but double clutch. Okay,
inning over, but just a very uncomfortable long inning before
the Dodgers get the excuse me run at the end
to at least put a crooked number up on the
board and make it eight to two. But the entire
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time we're watching it wondering if this is it, if
the desperation of the bullpen means that he would be
active for the next round. But all of that to say,
as the games started to get away, right it's three
to one becomes four to one after the real Muto
home run, that there's no or sense of urgency from
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Dave Roberts to make it to stop the bleeding. Well,
and that one.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
That's the worst part is that is that Mike, you
bring a break because this was such an epic fail
on all sides. Right to bring Karsha out for the
eighth inning after a really rough seventh Boy, that's a
rough decision. But I get it. He gives up the
home under rail Muto. You gotta take him out of
the game, right, I get that you want a perfect
ending for Kershaw and what he's meant to the Dodgers organization.
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I understand that this is the playoffs. Doesn't happen that way.
This is the playoffs, right, this is winner go home,
This is money on the table. The game is still
there for you at four to one because you have
two more innings to hit. The Dodgers lineup rakes On
like any other lineup in baseball, So you have to
I'm sorry, you got to take him out. You got
to take him out that but you got to stop
the bleeding. But you don't have you don't have a
reliever ready, so you can't take him out. So it's
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a fail by Dave Roberts, and it's a fail to
keep him in there. It's a fail by Kershaw. Can't
get anybody out, And now you're stuck because Dave Roberts
wants Kershaw to walk off the mound, but to do
that you gotta go through however many runs he gives
up and it turns out to be five or five
spot in the eighth inning. This was a fail by everybody,
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by bringing him in, by not having a plan to
take him out if you have to, by letting him
stay in and absorb that and potentially that being the
last time he walks off the mound. Like I mean it, man,
Like Dave Roberts is. Some things he does, it's like
he's working against the Dodgers. What he does relief pitching
wise in the ninth inning of Game two that nearly
gives away the game to the Phillies. What he does
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here with Kershaw on the seventh and eighth innings, like
what is going on? Like that's that's just not a
Kershaw thing. That is when you have a reliever in
the seventh inning that nearly gave the game away, you
gotta have another guy ready because you're not gonna say, Okay, well,
Kershaw's gonna get through the eighth What if he doesn't.
What if he puts the first couple of guys on
it's a two run game. You got to get him
out of there. Yeah, butybuddy going like, what do you
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what are you doing?
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Dave Roberts, Right, you did a terrible disservice to Clayton
Kershaw and what could be his final appearance for the squad.
Terrible from start to finish. Forty eight pitches, twenty two strikes,
all the walks, all the hard hit balls, multiple home runs,
all of that to say, But the larger issue is
it's a short series, and you've now given the Phillies life,
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right for all of the talk of we've certainly done
it here all right, at some point showing out Tony's
going to start hitting. But on the other side, what
was the what did we spotlight coming into this game?
You've got nothing from the start of that Phillies lineup.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
Guess what?
Speaker 2 (13:47):
They all started to hit the ball pretty damn hard
in this game. Schwarber obviously the two home runs, but
Harper has the double, and all of a sudden there's
life at the start of their lineup, and this series
is are from over because we go tomorrow. I thinks
Glass now has gotten gotten the nod. He's going to
start the game, But how how far does he go?
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Like this is a game where you were banking on
Yamamoto to give you six maybe seven innings, and to
their credit, you got solid innings from Banda, from Dryer
and eventually trying and cleaning things up in the ninth.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
It didn't matter how mamny he gave up? Was it
at that point?
Speaker 2 (14:28):
But the point being that those guys had to pitch,
and Kershaw pitched and pitched terribly. So what do you
what are you getting from Glass now tomorrow? And if
if when that goes bad, what do you got?
Speaker 4 (14:44):
Well?
Speaker 1 (14:44):
I mean, look like the Phillies suddenly have life? What
have I told from that? From the beginning of the playoffs?
The Dodger bullpen is the biggest X factor of this playoffs.
They are going to have a say on the Dodgers
going home, whether you want it to be or not.
Through the playoffs it is the Dodgers. But I mean,
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but just so bad. I mean, la Kershaw was terrible.
Speaker 5 (15:08):
But just what he did tonight was criminal on Dave Roberts,
you know, but.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
They kept showing him and he's just sitting there look
at us whatever, carding and putting it back in his
pocket and looking uncon That's.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
How I'm gonna remember the greatest picture I've ever seen.
This is messed up. I can't I can't believe he
didn't have a play you got it to. I mean,
he's it's almost like he stopped managing. I don't have
a guy up, and you get a guy up.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
Man.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
I know the bullpend stinks, but if he's not getting
it done, you got to just keep trying until you
find some Just what an epic fail, you know, like
John Paul Morosi said, a great beginning last hour, I
didn't like it. I feel like, yes, it was. It was.
I don't think anybody liked how the way Phillies liked
how it went, But I don't think anybody liked how
that went. For a guy who's meant that much to
Major League Baseball and done that much to potentially go
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out that way and have it to be mismanaged by
the Dodgers, I was. That was.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
But even in that seventh inning they had to be
bailed out by the fact that on a wild pitch,
Shorebird drifted too far away from first base and got
picked off.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
I know, like there was nothing pretty about it. At
any point, exit out out of Fresco, Exit Swollen Dome.
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Speaker 1 (18:03):
Jason, you mean the Snowman from Mannequin two on the Move.
It's Jefferson Starship. This is uh. This goes out from
Hellstein read Daron Boone Today, listen to Mickey Thomas go
get in, Gray Slick, I Love Cashman two. The Yankees
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lost tonight, another elemind from the Baseball playoffs and headed
on vacation. I'm gonna go hang out with one Soto
in CanCon accept the Blue Jays except the Blue Jays,
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TiSER enjoying the education the last couple of nights on
the history of Jefferson Airplane Jefferson star Show. No, it's good.
It's like it's like Tyshirt because he's in his thirties
and I can tell him about something happened in the
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eighties and seventies. It's like his own personal behind the music. Well,
I can tell him. Now, that's good.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
That's that's what we're here for, right, the elements of
our youth that we recall.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
I think Tyshert just casts forward.
Speaker 5 (19:27):
Wrap his head around the fact that we were born
in the nineteen hundred and then in nineteen eighty three,
the band rebranded as Jefferson Starship I later known just
as Starship.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
Gray Slick returned to the band. Mickey Thomas is a
brand new lead singleing up next, and they kind of
moved their sound a little bit from the from the
alt rock kind of you know what they would call
the stone of rock now of their sound of the
seventies into a much more of a poppy eighties.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
But that was the time back then.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
Well done, that smoky voice behind the yeah, that's that's
that's me if I was late night DJ telling you
stories about But when the drugs and alcohol started to
threaten to split the band, they ushered in a new
era when behind the music continues.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
But was it really over? Yes it was, But was
it really over? Yes it was. Come on season, it's over.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
But I mean I got great ad for a concert
coming in. Uh it's in February. So after the super Bowl.
Okay a free wow Okay, Sebastian Bach, Okay, it's doing
all of the first album of Skid bro Ace Freely's
gonna do back in the New York groove and then
say thanks everybody.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
Well, it might be the case. I can't believe he's
got the rights to any kiss songs. No, I think
he gets to do something really Okay, love God something else.
I would show up and just keep yelling that out
to the lead singer who was in a car accident. Yeah,
we passed out and we're talking about I did not
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know that. Wow.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Okay, yeah, off the cliff. So it's slaughter as freely
and Sebastian dude.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
I love slaughter. H bomb Yama. Okay, it's a Thursday night,
sleep bomb day. Well there's football, No, it's TVs. Oh, okay,
we'll follow me over. Okay, maybe all right, after this
short cut, Slaughter will be on for about eight to
twelve minutes. Margin Slaughter, Sergeant Slough. He just puts he
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was part of G I Joe. He puts all the
musicants in the in the uh cob and nicely don't
pass out. And that's the way to see him. Put
you in the cold fatigued.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
It might be there might be a wrestling convention nearby
that we could make that happen, Sergeant Slaughter.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
So I'll see if you will to do it virtually
via cameo, The Yankees go home tonight. The Blue Jays
waste no opportunity in trolling them, playing New York, New
York in the clubhouse, and Vlad Junior on the FS
one post show saying, no Yankees lose.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
You think they'd playton back in the New York groups.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
And then you get manager John Schneider saying, hey, start
spreading the news blankers were going to the Alcs. But
look to be fair about the Yankees, right, because yes
it is. I've said this. I'm not going to shy
away from it. The Yankees losing is like the Mets winning, right,
because I can't have the Yankees win or the Phillies win.
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So night when the yank are okay, great, Hey, this
is almost as good as the Mets winning. Yankees getting
knocked out.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
I mean it's not one hundred percent, it's not one
to one, but it feels a little bit of your soul.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
Yeah it does. I'm okay right now, Philly because the
two teams I can't have win of the Yankees and
the Phillies. So okay, Phillies are next, All right, great,
so let's see what happens, right, So okay, But to
be fair about the Yankees, and then to really tell
you what's what's the worst part is that this Yankee loss,
this was not a a missed opportunity. This was not
a team that was incredibly talented and couldn't find a
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way or that Hey, look at all the money that
they spent on the team and they couldn't even make
it this far. I mean, it's not the Mets. This
is a flawed Yankee team. This is a pretty good
Yankee team, right, not great. We saw them over the
course of the season. They were pretty good. They were
at the top of the Al East. They gave away
that lead, and they gave away twelve games in the
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standings over a couple of week period. Then they got
hot late tied for the division title, but they go
home in the Alds. This was not a great team.
They're a team with a lot of flaws. They still
have Aaron Judge and look, the Yankees are a team
that clearly is the shining example of hey, we make
a lot of mistakes, but Aaron Judge at home runs
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to cover up for him. Right, That's really what the
Yankees are. They make a lot of mistakes. So this
is not a terrific Yankee team. It's a team that
was really flawed. Not having Garrett Cole really big deal,
because yes, the stopper once every fifth day. They would
have won the Division. They would have had a better
playoff run because Garrett Cole is a great playoff performer. Right,
He's got a great player outside of not covering first base, left,
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Garrett Cole is a great playoff pitcher. Right. The record
is like twelve and six. E Ray is at two
and a half for his career in the playoffs, he's
been terrific. But that's the thing. It's not anything where
it's haha laugh at the Yankees. They were just a
pretty good team and losing in the Alds is an
appropriate end for them this season. It's not anything over
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all laugh at them. And no, this was an appropriate
end for the Yankees losing here. Yeah, someone's got to
lose in the Alds. And the team that didn't hit
the ball enough and couldn't make enough plays, the Blue
Jay simply played better than the Yankees throughout that series.
Yankees had one game and one big comeback, and they
wound up going home after This is an absolutely acceptable
(24:50):
and appropriate outcome. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
I mean when you go through their roster, I mean
you got a lot of sluggers, right, You had eight
guys or at least nineteen home runs on the and
a couple of big hitters, and we questioned some of
the managerial moves boone, leaving guys out of lineups for
games and scratching our heads regarded than that. But you
look at their pitching staff. You only had three guys
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with more than fourteen starts. Right, you're looking at Rodin,
Warren and Freed. That's it. And then you were banking
on Schlitler to become an ace and he did really well, right,
high strikeout rate, had two wonderful starts. The one against
the Red Sox was absurd, the one tonight against the
Blue Jays. Look, he got him into the seventh inning,
(25:36):
gave up two eurn runs, didn't have the high punch
out rate this time, but made the pitches.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
He needed to to work deep into the game.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
Again, with the Blue Jays running out eight pitchers, they
weren't able to crack the code. Fundamentals have been an
issue all year long, going back to what felled them
in the World Series. You're talking about base running mistakes,
fielding issues at execution with runners on base, all of
those things, and certainly from a pitching perspective, going to
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depth and trying to finish out games was an issue.
But you're navigating the Al East, and you did so
as well as you could. Red Sox went on that
crazy run once Devers was gone. Anthony gets hurt, so
that slows things down at the top of their order.
But they're there to meet you in the playoffs and
you're able to take them out. Blue Jays were still waiting.
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You had the gift of everything that was expected of
the Orioles didn't come to Fruition. That was one fewer
team than you thought you had to contend with. Guess what,
they'll probably be better next year, right, One would think
that some of these young guys that they were counting on,
they have better season, they have a little more luck
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in the health department.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
Not quite sure what happens with their pitching staff. But
all that to.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
Say, you had flaws and you were able to go
through and eventually it catches up with you and Aaron
Boone made his mistakes and you had to wear it
against the Blue Jays squad that have plenty of their
own wards.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
So that's the good news for them. But you know
it's not just hey, Sunshine, Lollipop's rain.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
Well, you know, you were trying to be positive. He
had with the good here's the worst news.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
For the Yankees, and this is why I really I mean,
I know I fired him a bunch of times, but
this is where Aaron Boone is not going to be
able to escape. The one thing the Yankees needed to
do over the course of the season was eliminate and
move on from the lazy Yankees little league Yankees stigma,
which is what has dogged them all through last year
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into the World Series. I mean the errors judge dropping
the fly ball, not covering first base in the World Series,
the lazy Yankee narrative, the little league team. They wanted
to get rid of that, and they weren't. Over the
course of the season, there were still a run Yankee
announcer of saying this is like a little league team.
I can't believe we're seeing this. Buck Martinez, Blue Jays
play by play and list said after the series in
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the beginning of September, this is not a good team.
They don't run the bass as well, They're not good.
He doubled down on that this week, iseud of saying, well,
I said some things. No, the Yankees are not a
good baseball team. They don't do the fundamental things right.
They don't run the bass as well. And this is
exactly what happened tonight, right cause you talk about lazy Yankees,
little league Yankees narrative. The three biggest things you can
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say about the Yankees tonight. Number one, Aaron Boone does
not pinch hit for Anthony Volpi in the seventh inning,
right now, okay, seventh Thinny not pinch it. The Yankees
get the leadoff runner on Volpi comes up and strikes out,
and then the next batter gets on base. Now it's
first and second, and now all Yankee fans like, why
is Vulpi batt And I gotta say, yeah, the guys
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one for thirteen at this point in this series with
ten strikeouts. This is not where you've had some bad
luck over for four or four. You're one for thirteen
with ten strikeouts. I know you're not getting a base hit.
I know mentally you're not in spot to get I
know that anybody else coming up to bat is gonna
be better. Anybody else is going to be better. So yeah,
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that's a big thing to lose right there. The error
by Jazz Chisholm, it's a routine double playgrounder when the
Blue Jays are up to to one in the seventh inning,
they should be out of the inning, but instead he
biffs it. It's an awful optic for Chisholm, who was
yawning during the game last night. Yankee fans had to say, oh,
why is he yawning? Why is he yawning? And instead
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of a two to one lead going into this bottom
and seventh inning, they put two more runs on the
board and make it four to one. And then you
add the coupe de gras, which is and at bat which,
if I'm a Yankee fan, this is what I think
of coming up from this game. Ben Rice comes up
to pinch it against Hoffman in the bottom of the
eighth inning. There's two outs and two on. It's a
four to one game. This is the last gas for
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the Yankee this is it. Ben Rice works out a walk.
Hoffman throws a slider on three and two that's not
even close to the plate. So now all of a sudden,
bases loaded, two outs, and here comes Austin Wells and
he's the first bat, right, he comes into the game,
the first the first guy he walks. So now eighth inning,
Yankee Stadium, you know his knees are knocking right, So
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now what do you do if you're Austin Wells. Okay,
he's gotta show me he can throw it over the plate.
If I'm gonna if I'm gonna swing early in the count,
I gotta get a nice, fat pitch. What does Austin
Wells do? First pitch that's out of the strike zone,
that's high. He hits a lazy fly ball. The left
field Blue Jays make the play, they're out of the inning.
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It's four to one. They put up a run to
go five to one. They win the game like that.
That's so maddening to me. But this falls under the
elementary lazy Yankees, little league Yankees. They have to do
things better. Fundamentally, you don't swing at the first you
swing at that first pitch. That's gotta be a line
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drive into the gap. If you're gonna swing at the
first pitch after a guy has walked the bases loaded
on his first bat, having trouble finding the plate, and
you not only do you swing in a pitch, you
swinging a pitch out of the strike zone. Like this
is where I sit here and say, this is what
Aaron Boone has to wear and yes, you can change
the players, but when you go from a World Series
that you could have won if maybe you would not
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played it like a little league team, and now you're
losing the Alds and still there's little League Yankees. Yeah,
this is where Aaron Boone's gonna be the guy where
it's like, okay, you can't have this is now two
plus seasons. This little League Yankee stigma is out there
and they're not fixing stuff, and somebody's got to bear
the responsibility for that. Like, I can't believe it's not
gonna be Aaron Boone.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
Real Quick, Bellinger, Grissom, Goldschmidt, Williams Weaver, all free agents,
as well as potentially Rosario Slater and a couple of pitchers.
Speaker 5 (31:42):
Well that what's his name the first basement for the
Mets is gonna fit right in because.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
Yeah, hey, you want to give Peter A Lonzo all
that money, go ahead.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
Sure and go back to Volpi. He unfortunately is always
going to be dealing with the specter of number two
and him being on the Fox broadcast probably doesn't help it.
But nineteen seventy two an eighteen stolen base, that's a
pretty good year. Except that he hits two twelve and
strikes out a lot, and then the playoffs couldn't hit
the broad side of a bar.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
Exit out about a Fresca exit swollen dome. The Jason
Smith Show with my best friend Mike Carmen time out
to find out what's trending in the wide world of sports.
From Monci Belanias, who's all the latest MLB, NFL news,
NHL news tonight?
Speaker 2 (32:23):
She's got us right. Wouldn't it be great if we
could all play some hockey?
Speaker 8 (32:26):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (32:27):
Kyle Schwarber threw a touchdown and that's how they won.
I'm just all confused. He did win by a touch
he did? I mean, he tried to throw that football
over the mountain with no extra point. But yeah, so
I'm glad you brought that up.
Speaker 8 (32:40):
Harmon.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
There's a story that Brianna Brie are Brianna Muro my bestie?
Speaker 8 (32:44):
Over here?
Speaker 1 (32:45):
She's like, did you know did you just get her
name wrong?
Speaker 8 (32:47):
Your best Briannamuro?
Speaker 6 (32:49):
No?
Speaker 1 (32:49):
I thought you stopped and said no.
Speaker 8 (32:52):
She said breathe and then I said the full name.
Speaker 4 (32:54):
Oh listen, Joe, No, I do not have your headache.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
No, I don't have headache. Okay, my Spanish is a
little rusty.
Speaker 8 (33:11):
This smitch just smidge.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
But she was like, did you know that that Kyle
Schwarber is the only player other than one other guy
to hit a ball outside of Dodger Stadium.
Speaker 8 (33:18):
I was like, that's not right. I was like, I'm
a tour guy. That's not right. She's like, no, it's
in the story.
Speaker 3 (33:22):
And she sent me an AP News story about this,
and this is incorrect.
Speaker 5 (33:27):
There's a gen Carlo Stanton's hit it out twice, Mark.
Speaker 3 (33:32):
McGuire, really stargel twice and Carlos Stanton once You're right,
Mark McGuire, my Fiazza, Fernando tatist Junior.
Speaker 8 (33:41):
I mean, he was cheating, but it was exactly we
know why.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
It was probably written by a gen Z writer the
first time. It's never happened, but there was happening. There's
baseball in the nineteen seventies.
Speaker 3 (33:51):
First player to do it since really's stargile and it's like, no, absolutely,
still not even sort of.
Speaker 8 (33:58):
So now we know that it's happened other times.
Speaker 3 (34:01):
But yes, Kyle Schwarber homer twice today and the Phillies
crushed the Dodgers eight to two.
Speaker 8 (34:06):
They forced a Game four that's going to be tomorrow
in LA.
Speaker 3 (34:09):
Cubs also kept their season alive with the four to
three win over the Brewers.
Speaker 8 (34:13):
They scored all their runs in the first sinning. Game
four is also tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (34:18):
Blue Jays are headed to the Alcs for the first
time since twenty sixteen. After defeating the Yankees five to
two in their Game four, Toronto outscored New York thirty
four to nineteen in the series.
Speaker 8 (34:29):
After the game, Yankees.
Speaker 3 (34:30):
Manager Aaron Boone said he expects to be back next
year because he's under contract. The Tigers scored nine runs,
nine unanswered runs, and they beat the Mariners nine three
in Game four, so Game five is going.
Speaker 8 (34:41):
To take place in Seattle on Friday.
Speaker 3 (34:43):
When it comes to the NFL a late night trade,
the Jaguars are trading cornerback Tyson Campbell and a seventh
round pick to the Browns in exchange for cornerback Greg
Newsom and a sixth round pick. Bengals head coach Zach
Taylor did name Joe Flacco as a team starting quarterback
for their game Sunday against the Packers. Head coach Kevin
Stefanski wouldn't commit to a backup quarterback behind Dylan Gabriel.
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He said later this week they would make the announcement
should Dor Sandras Bailey Zappi are in line for the
number two spot following the trade of Joe Flacco yesterday.
No practice today for Raiders tight end Brock Bowers, or
for Ravens quarterback Lamar Jackson in the WNBA aces or
one win away from winning the title.
Speaker 8 (35:22):
As they edged the Mercury ninety to eighty eight.
Speaker 3 (35:24):
Asia Wilson dropped thirty four points, including the go ahead
bucket with five seconds to go. When it came to hockey,
the King's edged the Golden Knights six to five in
a shootout. Flames beat the Oilers four to three in
a shootout, but Leon dry Sidle has reached four hundred
career goals and the Bruins top the Capitals three to one. Well,
the Maple Leafs outscored the Canadians five to two.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
Thank you very much.
Speaker 8 (35:46):
I'm about to start singing, Scott Good, what's you gonna do?
Speaker 1 (35:50):
The Scott's talk saws, Hey.
Speaker 3 (35:52):
Mister Scott, what you're gonna do to make our dreams
come true? Hey missus Scott, such an awkward, awkward.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
That's gonna be going through your head all day. To mob.
Speaker 8 (36:01):
You know, I'm gonna listen to Taylor Swift. That's been
on my head. It'll come back. I'll way back to singing.
You know, Fate of Ophelia.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
Listen to Father Figure. You know, you know the Fate
of Ophelia. Yes, she drowns, Yes, she drowns herself.
Speaker 8 (36:15):
Right, she died. What is she? What is Hamlet?
Speaker 1 (36:22):
She's in Hamlet.
Speaker 3 (36:23):
H They all died Alamburger, Hamlet, Hamburger right in Hamlet,
everybody does.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
Yeah, just about. She kills herself. She drowns herself.
Speaker 8 (36:33):
She drowns herself, drowns herself.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
Fort and Bras is okay, he's just like the met season. Yeah,
that was boch fort in Bras. There you go. We
put a big bow on tonight. Major League Baseball, give
you our picks for TNF tomorrow night. Keep it right here, Jason.
Speaker 6 (36:52):
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putting this content out for you every single night. We'll
have more of the Yankees coming up in about twenty minutes,
(01:08):
because no, the Yankees lost and my dad is not happy.
That's all. That's all you need to know. My dad
is not happy. Uh, and stayed up to the end.
Tomorrow is gonna be and the thing him and the thing, no,
the thing we call him. No, no, no, we can't know.
My dad's had a lot of back problems the last
few days and he's not been feeling great.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
So yeah, he's trying to carry the pain. He uh, yeah,
Dad made his game. Didn't help his pain.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Can't carry the Yankees. No, And that's the thing, is
that like Yankees actually hurt it made it worse. He's yeah,
oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, his really hurts, right, He's like,
I can't get in a coach position to watch this crap. Okay,
that's what I get. Uh but yeah, No, he's not happy. No,
he's not happy. Now I would imagine not. I have
to bring him donuts and coffee tomorrow and say, hey,
(01:54):
here you go. It's gonna help him back. That's gonna work. No no, no,
my dad might don't lets it work. No, no, no. My
dad's favorite things in the world, and it depends on
the order of how happy he is. My dad's favorite
things are the Yankees, the Golf Channel, little chocolate, donuts, ncis,
and coffee. My dad's four favorite things, out of order.
(02:15):
That's his mad well in different orders like it. There's
never a time he's mad at coffee. Now, never a
time that he's mad at NCIS. Okay, is there time
that he's mad at the Yankees? Yeah? Is there time
that he's mad Golf Channel if one of his favorite
golfers isn't winning. Yeah, but he's never really mad about
coffee or NCIS. I can't bring him NCIS because you
can just get it any time on TV. So I'll
bring him coffee, Okay, urn coffee.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
NCI loves. He like episodes that feature jet throw gives
more or less.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Oh no, No, he's more of a new he's more
new to guy. Yeah he said, yeah, snot's running down
his nose. No, he's more new school from But I
say new school, I mean like not not twenty years ago,
but like ten years ago.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
And see you're an old grease you know, uh jet
throw Bodine Max Bear Junior is ninety two years old.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Wow, I did not know Sandy Kofax though, okay.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Not quite as good as but I mean he does
have a good mustache, I mean good hair.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
My dad. One of my dad's favorite things that's ever
happened to him here in La no, no, no, well, beating
Sandy Kofax, yes, but uh, seeing something I still need
to seeing Polly Perette. Uh like that. He called me,
guess who I just saw. I don't know who it
could beat? Really, yes, And then he called me and
he saw George Eads once. He was so excited. I'm like,
(03:31):
oh wow. But when he saw Georgia.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Had multiple iterations in the city as.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
When he saw Pauli Perette. He was like, I'm like,
I was like, wow, it's like me meeting Curtis Martin.
He's like, I saw Paulli Perette. I just hear it.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
I was like, wow, did he try to take her
hands like Curtis Martin.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
No, my dad's one of those that's pretty cool. That's
that's my dad. That's what he is. But yeah, but coffee,
I mean clearly, coffee is always at the top of
the list for him. But those four favorite things any coffee?
Uh the places that he hates well, no, no, no, Bucks. No,
he's not the biggest Starbucks fan. But if I get him,
but if I get him dark roast and I tell
him it's from Coffee Bean, is he a duncan?
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (04:10):
He loves Dunkin Donuts, loves Duncan.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Uh, he likes coffee bean like I said, Winchles, Winchles
is okay to Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
He's any any place. My dad is more of a
straight up coffee flavored coffee guy, not like me where
I like the mochas and the taste and everything else. No, no, no,
my dad is straight up. Just give me the black coffee.
If it burns my tongue off, I'm fine.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Yeah, I don't necessarily need that latter part, but I'm
very much just he's good. He's good for me Winchles,
Coffee Duncan without like the little like I say, Oh, Dad,
do you want a nice coffee?
Speaker 1 (04:43):
I don't want a coffee drink. Just give me a coffee, okay, right,
that's fine. What what do you want? What do you want?
Dark roast? Okay?
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Dad? So that's all it's gonna take to numb the
pain for a walk. No, I don't think somebody will
help a little bit. You already get you a stack
of random Yankee cards so he can rip him in.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
He wants nothing, he wants nothing to do with the Yanks.
How much does he hate Aaron Boone? Right about him?
A lot the Yankee bullpenny, though he.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Gave him great, great happiness many years ago. No, no, no,
it's a long time ago.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
My dad always hates the bullpen the most, and it's
never Aaron Judge's fault. So that but that those are
the two, you know what to his defense this series,
it wasn't there. You really can't blame I told you
my dad's three favorite Yankees are Judge, Garrett Cole, and
Jazz Chisholm. But right now I think he and Jazz
Chisolm are on me.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
It might be on the ouse. Yeah, I don't, I don't.
I don't think he's in that. He's not in the
circle of trust anymore. Oh he loves Maddingly. Want to
bring him party?
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Yeah, he loves Maddening. Oh my dad would love to
party with Mattingly. Think he'd drink a coffee together. Oh
yeah in the Blue Jays clubhouse.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Hey, if that's what it takes right now, sure, so
bring madding Lee back.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
Uh will bring him? No, he's a blue Jay now,
he's been there three years now. Mat has been the
Blue Jays. Yeah, he's a blue Jay now. He's party
Yankee Stadium first time after a playoff win. He's partying
at Yankee Stadium as.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
A Blue Jay, as the bench coach he helped bring
them to victon.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
He's still there. The Blue Jays plane is probably left
to go back home, and he's like, now I'm gonna
stay here. He's walking the halls right now at Yankees,
talking to ushers and equipment managers and dies. He goes,
it's just excited. He's walking around. Yeah, hell my balls.
Uh So, more on the Yankees coming up in a
few minutes. But we watched the the Eagles. We'll watch
(06:34):
the Eagles tomorrow night. We watched the Phillies stay alive
by beating the Dodgers eight to two, Game three of
the NLDS. Dodgers were going for the closer. They hit
Yamamoto early and they hit Clayton Kershaw late. Now this
is the tough one because there's two big things about
Clayton Kershaw is that he comes in the seventh inning,
and it was rough in the seventh inning, but he
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gets out of the seventh inning not giving up a run.
He walked to again twenty one pitches, nine strikes. This
was not a Clayton Kershaw knight. And I get saying, well,
the rest of our relievers are terrible, will leave men
again for the eighth because it's still a close game, right,
still three to one? Okay. He gives up a home
run to j. T. Rail Mutto, and then the floodgates open.
(07:17):
He walks a player, Max Munsey makes an error, he
gives up a hit, another hit, another home run, and
all of a sudden, it's eight to two and Kershaw's
walking out, with this potentially being the last appearance of
his career. But you think, okay, hang on, neither dot,
just follow me on this for a second. If he's
not gonna pitch again the rest of this series because
(07:38):
you can't trust him. Right, clearly, he is now one
of the other Dodger pitchers that you can't trust, like
Tanner Scott, like Blake Trony, and only came in because
it was eight to one tonight. So Kershaw's not gonna
pitch re us of.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
This, probably never gonna talk to David Vasse either, predicting
that he's gonna make an appearance.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
The Dodgers could lose the series, in which case Clayton
Kershaw's career is over. The Dodgers could get to the NLCS.
Do you really think they're gonna put Kershaw on the
roster after this outing tonight? This was so rough. He
had trouble commanding his pitches. He couldn't find the strike zone.
This wasn't a night where hey, all right, he got
hit a little bit, his pitch is a little fat
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over the plate. He could not command the baseball. This
is not this is not a situation of all right, well,
maybe we can see it and give them another chance.
I really, I know they wanted to do the right
thing by Kershaw, which we'll get to, but if you
asked me, I would honestly tell you that's the last
time we see Clayton Kershaw on a baseball field, because
I can't see the Dodgers keeping him on the roster
(08:37):
into the next round. And threw on past this because
he's someone you can't trust. And if you can only
trust him one, if you only think he's gonna pitch
once in a while, can you use some innings for us?
You get other guys can do that they could also
bring in in higher leverage situations. I mean, Kershaw, it sucks,
it's awful, and it shouldn't end this way. But I
really feel like that's the last time we're gonna see
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the guy. And again it's it's terrible to see that
this being the last time where he just gets ripped
pillar to post, gives up two home runs, Kyle Schwarber
hits a home run, and he only gets out of
the inning because, you know, a line drive to the
center field wall is nabbed right at the wall, like
he just got beat around the park tonight. And it sucks.
But I think that's the last year're gonna see of
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Clayton Kersham. He's gonna like Emmett Smith with the Cardinal
on his helmet, Bill Belichick with the North Carolina Blue.
Clayton Kershaw getting hit against the Phillies in the in
the in the seventh and eighth innings of this game
tonight is the last time we're gonna see him.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Forty eight pitches, just twenty two strikes, hit hard, gives
up the home run to lead off the eighth from
Real Muto, and it just didn't get any better. And
the whole time we're sitting here wondering why there's nobody
up and throwing, they keep showing the dugout images of
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an uncomfortable Dave Roberts, but nothing going on in the bullpen,
and it just continues to go that you have the
error from Muncie play that should have been made, misjudge
the short hop and helped exacerbate issues, but ultimately you
needed the big flyout at the wall where you didn't
(10:18):
even think he had it.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
No, I'm like, oh this is there is no security
inside the park home run like he's gonna crash into
the wall.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
It's gonna be inside the parker. Yeah, but double clutch. Okay,
inning over, but just a very uncomfortable long inning before
the Dodgers get the excuse me run at the end
to at least put a crooked number up on the
board and make it eight to two. But the entire
(10:47):
time we're watching it wondering if this is it, if
the desperation of the bullpen means that he would be
active for the next round. But all of that to say,
as the games started to get away, right it's three
to one becomes four to one after the real Muto
home run, that there's no or sense of urgency from
(11:11):
Dave Roberts to make it to stop the bleeding. Well,
and that one.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
That's the worst part is that is that Mike, you
bring a break because this was such an epic fail
on all sides. Right to bring Karsha out for the
eighth inning after a really rough seventh Boy, that's a
rough decision. But I get it. He gives up the
home under rail Muto. You gotta take him out of
the game, right, I get that you want a perfect
ending for Kershaw and what he's meant to the Dodgers organization.
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I understand that this is the playoffs. Doesn't happen that way.
This is the playoffs, right, this is winner go home,
This is money on the table. The game is still
there for you at four to one because you have
two more innings to hit. The Dodgers lineup rakes On
like any other lineup in baseball, So you have to
I'm sorry, you got to take him out. You got
to take him out that but you got to stop
the bleeding. But you don't have you don't have a
reliever ready, so you can't take him out. So it's
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a fail by Dave Roberts, and it's a fail to
keep him in there. It's a fail by Kershaw. Can't
get anybody out, And now you're stuck because Dave Roberts
wants Kershaw to walk off the mound, but to do
that you gotta go through however many runs he gives
up and it turns out to be five or five
spot in the eighth inning. This was a fail by everybody,
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by bringing him in, by not having a plan to
take him out if you have to, by letting him
stay in and absorb that and potentially that being the
last time he walks off the mound. Like I mean it, man,
Like Dave Roberts is. Some things he does, it's like
he's working against the Dodgers. What he does relief pitching
wise in the ninth inning of Game two that nearly
gives away the game to the Phillies. What he does
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here with Kershaw on the seventh and eighth innings, like
what is going on? Like that's that's just not a
Kershaw thing. That is when you have a reliever in
the seventh inning that nearly gave the game away, you
gotta have another guy ready because you're not gonna say, Okay, well,
Kershaw's gonna get through the eighth What if he doesn't.
What if he puts the first couple of guys on
it's a two run game. You got to get him
out of there. Yeah, butybuddy going like, what do you
(13:04):
what are you doing?
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Dave Roberts, Right, you did a terrible disservice to Clayton
Kershaw and what could be his final appearance for the squad.
Terrible from start to finish. Forty eight pitches, twenty two strikes,
all the walks, all the hard hit balls, multiple home runs,
all of that to say, But the larger issue is
it's a short series, and you've now given the Phillies life,
(13:29):
right for all of the talk of we've certainly done
it here all right, at some point showing out Tony's
going to start hitting. But on the other side, what
was the what did we spotlight coming into this game?
You've got nothing from the start of that Phillies lineup.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
Guess what?
Speaker 2 (13:47):
They all started to hit the ball pretty damn hard
in this game. Schwarber obviously the two home runs, but
Harper has the double, and all of a sudden there's
life at the start of their lineup, and this series
is are from over because we go tomorrow. I thinks
Glass now has gotten gotten the nod. He's going to
start the game, But how how far does he go?
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Like this is a game where you were banking on
Yamamoto to give you six maybe seven innings, and to
their credit, you got solid innings from Banda, from Dryer
and eventually trying and cleaning things up in the ninth.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
It didn't matter how mamny he gave up? Was it
at that point?
Speaker 2 (14:28):
But the point being that those guys had to pitch,
and Kershaw pitched and pitched terribly. So what do you
what are you getting from Glass now tomorrow? And if
if when that goes bad, what do you got?
Speaker 4 (14:44):
Well?
Speaker 1 (14:44):
I mean, look like the Phillies suddenly have life? What
have I told from that? From the beginning of the playoffs?
The Dodger bullpen is the biggest X factor of this playoffs.
They are going to have a say on the Dodgers
going home, whether you want it to be or not.
Through the playoffs it is the Dodgers. But I mean,
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but just so bad. I mean, la Kershaw was terrible.
Speaker 5 (15:08):
But just what he did tonight was criminal on Dave Roberts,
you know, but.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
They kept showing him and he's just sitting there look
at us whatever, carding and putting it back in his
pocket and looking uncon That's.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
How I'm gonna remember the greatest picture I've ever seen.
This is messed up. I can't I can't believe he
didn't have a play you got it to. I mean,
he's it's almost like he stopped managing. I don't have
a guy up, and you get a guy up.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
Man.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
I know the bullpend stinks, but if he's not getting
it done, you got to just keep trying until you
find some Just what an epic fail, you know, like
John Paul Morosi said, a great beginning last hour, I
didn't like it. I feel like, yes, it was. It was.
I don't think anybody liked how the way Phillies liked
how it went, But I don't think anybody liked how
that went. For a guy who's meant that much to
Major League Baseball and done that much to potentially go
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out that way and have it to be mismanaged by
the Dodgers, I was. That was.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
But even in that seventh inning they had to be
bailed out by the fact that on a wild pitch,
Shorebird drifted too far away from first base and got
picked off.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
I know, like there was nothing pretty about it. At
any point, exit out out of Fresco, Exit Swollen Dome.
The Jason Smith Show with my best friend Mike Harmon.
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Speaker 1 (17:37):
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Speaker 1 (18:03):
Jason, you mean the Snowman from Mannequin two on the Move.
It's Jefferson Starship. This is uh. This goes out from
Hellstein read Daron Boone Today, listen to Mickey Thomas go
get in, Gray Slick, I Love Cashman two. The Yankees
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lost tonight, another elemind from the Baseball playoffs and headed
on vacation. I'm gonna go hang out with one Soto
in CanCon accept the Blue Jays except the Blue Jays,
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Except the Blue Jays. Jason Smith Mike Carmon Live from
the Fox Sports Radio Studios. Alex Tyser, Yankees Loo, Alex
TiSER enjoying the education the last couple of nights on
the history of Jefferson Airplane Jefferson star Show. No, it's good.
It's like it's like Tyshirt because he's in his thirties
and I can tell him about something happened in the
(19:14):
eighties and seventies. It's like his own personal behind the music. Well,
I can tell him. Now, that's good.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
That's that's what we're here for, right, the elements of
our youth that we recall.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
I think Tyshert just casts forward.
Speaker 5 (19:27):
Wrap his head around the fact that we were born
in the nineteen hundred and then in nineteen eighty three,
the band rebranded as Jefferson Starship I later known just
as Starship.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
Gray Slick returned to the band. Mickey Thomas is a
brand new lead singleing up next, and they kind of
moved their sound a little bit from the from the
alt rock kind of you know what they would call
the stone of rock now of their sound of the
seventies into a much more of a poppy eighties.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
But that was the time back then.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
Well done, that smoky voice behind the yeah, that's that's
that's me if I was late night DJ telling you
stories about But when the drugs and alcohol started to
threaten to split the band, they ushered in a new
era when behind the music continues.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
But was it really over? Yes it was, But was
it really over? Yes it was. Come on season, it's over.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
But I mean I got great ad for a concert
coming in. Uh it's in February. So after the super Bowl.
Okay a free wow Okay, Sebastian Bach, Okay, it's doing
all of the first album of Skid bro Ace Freely's
gonna do back in the New York groove and then
say thanks everybody.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
Well, it might be the case. I can't believe he's
got the rights to any kiss songs. No, I think
he gets to do something really Okay, love God something else.
I would show up and just keep yelling that out
to the lead singer who was in a car accident. Yeah,
we passed out and we're talking about I did not
(21:04):
know that. Wow.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Okay, yeah, off the cliff. So it's slaughter as freely
and Sebastian dude.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
I love slaughter. H bomb Yama. Okay, it's a Thursday night,
sleep bomb day. Well there's football, No, it's TVs. Oh, okay,
we'll follow me over. Okay, maybe all right, after this
short cut, Slaughter will be on for about eight to
twelve minutes. Margin Slaughter, Sergeant Slough. He just puts he
(21:33):
was part of G I Joe. He puts all the
musicants in the in the uh cob and nicely don't
pass out. And that's the way to see him. Put
you in the cold fatigued.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
It might be there might be a wrestling convention nearby
that we could make that happen, Sergeant Slaughter.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
So I'll see if you will to do it virtually
via cameo, The Yankees go home tonight. The Blue Jays
waste no opportunity in trolling them, playing New York, New
York in the clubhouse, and Vlad Junior on the FS
one post show saying, no Yankees lose.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
You think they'd playton back in the New York groups.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
And then you get manager John Schneider saying, hey, start
spreading the news blankers were going to the Alcs. But
look to be fair about the Yankees, right, because yes
it is. I've said this. I'm not going to shy
away from it. The Yankees losing is like the Mets winning, right,
because I can't have the Yankees win or the Phillies win.
(22:30):
So night when the yank are okay, great, Hey, this
is almost as good as the Mets winning. Yankees getting
knocked out.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
I mean it's not one hundred percent, it's not one
to one, but it feels a little bit of your soul.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
Yeah it does. I'm okay right now, Philly because the
two teams I can't have win of the Yankees and
the Phillies. So okay, Phillies are next, All right, great,
so let's see what happens, right, So okay, But to
be fair about the Yankees, and then to really tell
you what's what's the worst part is that this Yankee loss,
this was not a a missed opportunity. This was not
a team that was incredibly talented and couldn't find a
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way or that Hey, look at all the money that
they spent on the team and they couldn't even make
it this far. I mean, it's not the Mets. This
is a flawed Yankee team. This is a pretty good
Yankee team, right, not great. We saw them over the
course of the season. They were pretty good. They were
at the top of the Al East. They gave away
that lead, and they gave away twelve games in the
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standings over a couple of week period. Then they got
hot late tied for the division title, but they go
home in the Alds. This was not a great team.
They're a team with a lot of flaws. They still
have Aaron Judge and look, the Yankees are a team
that clearly is the shining example of hey, we make
a lot of mistakes, but Aaron Judge at home runs
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to cover up for him. Right, That's really what the
Yankees are. They make a lot of mistakes. So this
is not a terrific Yankee team. It's a team that
was really flawed. Not having Garrett Cole really big deal,
because yes, the stopper once every fifth day. They would
have won the Division. They would have had a better
playoff run because Garrett Cole is a great playoff performer. Right,
He's got a great player outside of not covering first base, left,
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Garrett Cole is a great playoff pitcher. Right. The record
is like twelve and six. E Ray is at two
and a half for his career in the playoffs, he's
been terrific. But that's the thing. It's not anything where
it's haha laugh at the Yankees. They were just a
pretty good team and losing in the Alds is an
appropriate end for them this season. It's not anything over
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all laugh at them. And no, this was an appropriate
end for the Yankees losing here. Yeah, someone's got to
lose in the Alds. And the team that didn't hit
the ball enough and couldn't make enough plays, the Blue
Jay simply played better than the Yankees throughout that series.
Yankees had one game and one big comeback, and they
wound up going home after This is an absolutely acceptable
(24:50):
and appropriate outcome. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
I mean when you go through their roster, I mean
you got a lot of sluggers, right, You had eight
guys or at least nineteen home runs on the and
a couple of big hitters, and we questioned some of
the managerial moves boone, leaving guys out of lineups for
games and scratching our heads regarded than that. But you
look at their pitching staff. You only had three guys
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with more than fourteen starts. Right, you're looking at Rodin,
Warren and Freed. That's it. And then you were banking
on Schlitler to become an ace and he did really well, right,
high strikeout rate, had two wonderful starts. The one against
the Red Sox was absurd, the one tonight against the
Blue Jays. Look, he got him into the seventh inning,
(25:36):
gave up two eurn runs, didn't have the high punch
out rate this time, but made the pitches.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
He needed to to work deep into the game.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
Again, with the Blue Jays running out eight pitchers, they
weren't able to crack the code. Fundamentals have been an
issue all year long, going back to what felled them
in the World Series. You're talking about base running mistakes,
fielding issues at execution with runners on base, all of
those things, and certainly from a pitching perspective, going to
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depth and trying to finish out games was an issue.
But you're navigating the Al East, and you did so
as well as you could. Red Sox went on that
crazy run once Devers was gone. Anthony gets hurt, so
that slows things down at the top of their order.
But they're there to meet you in the playoffs and
you're able to take them out. Blue Jays were still waiting.
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You had the gift of everything that was expected of
the Orioles didn't come to Fruition. That was one fewer
team than you thought you had to contend with. Guess what,
they'll probably be better next year, right, One would think
that some of these young guys that they were counting on,
they have better season, they have a little more luck
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in the health department.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
Not quite sure what happens with their pitching staff. But
all that to.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
Say, you had flaws and you were able to go
through and eventually it catches up with you and Aaron
Boone made his mistakes and you had to wear it
against the Blue Jays squad that have plenty of their
own wards.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
So that's the good news for them. But you know
it's not just hey, Sunshine, Lollipop's rain.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
Well, you know, you were trying to be positive. He
had with the good here's the worst news.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
For the Yankees, and this is why I really I mean,
I know I fired him a bunch of times, but
this is where Aaron Boone is not going to be
able to escape. The one thing the Yankees needed to
do over the course of the season was eliminate and
move on from the lazy Yankees little league Yankees stigma,
which is what has dogged them all through last year
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into the World Series. I mean the errors judge dropping
the fly ball, not covering first base in the World Series,
the lazy Yankee narrative, the little league team. They wanted
to get rid of that, and they weren't. Over the
course of the season, there were still a run Yankee
announcer of saying this is like a little league team.
I can't believe we're seeing this. Buck Martinez, Blue Jays
play by play and list said after the series in
(28:01):
the beginning of September, this is not a good team.
They don't run the bass as well, They're not good.
He doubled down on that this week, iseud of saying, well,
I said some things. No, the Yankees are not a
good baseball team. They don't do the fundamental things right.
They don't run the bass as well. And this is
exactly what happened tonight, right cause you talk about lazy Yankees,
little league Yankees narrative. The three biggest things you can
(28:23):
say about the Yankees tonight. Number one, Aaron Boone does
not pinch hit for Anthony Volpi in the seventh inning,
right now, okay, seventh Thinny not pinch it. The Yankees
get the leadoff runner on Volpi comes up and strikes out,
and then the next batter gets on base. Now it's
first and second, and now all Yankee fans like, why
is Vulpi batt And I gotta say, yeah, the guys
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one for thirteen at this point in this series with
ten strikeouts. This is not where you've had some bad
luck over for four or four. You're one for thirteen
with ten strikeouts. I know you're not getting a base hit.
I know mentally you're not in spot to get I
know that anybody else coming up to bat is gonna
be better. Anybody else is going to be better. So yeah,
(29:05):
that's a big thing to lose right there. The error
by Jazz Chisholm, it's a routine double playgrounder when the
Blue Jays are up to to one in the seventh inning,
they should be out of the inning, but instead he
biffs it. It's an awful optic for Chisholm, who was
yawning during the game last night. Yankee fans had to say, oh,
why is he yawning? Why is he yawning? And instead
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of a two to one lead going into this bottom
and seventh inning, they put two more runs on the
board and make it four to one. And then you
add the coupe de gras, which is and at bat which,
if I'm a Yankee fan, this is what I think
of coming up from this game. Ben Rice comes up
to pinch it against Hoffman in the bottom of the
eighth inning. There's two outs and two on. It's a
four to one game. This is the last gas for
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the Yankee this is it. Ben Rice works out a walk.
Hoffman throws a slider on three and two that's not
even close to the plate. So now all of a sudden,
bases loaded, two outs, and here comes Austin Wells and
he's the first bat, right, he comes into the game,
the first the first guy he walks. So now eighth inning,
Yankee Stadium, you know his knees are knocking right, So
(30:10):
now what do you do if you're Austin Wells. Okay,
he's gotta show me he can throw it over the plate.
If I'm gonna if I'm gonna swing early in the count,
I gotta get a nice, fat pitch. What does Austin
Wells do? First pitch that's out of the strike zone,
that's high. He hits a lazy fly ball. The left
field Blue Jays make the play, they're out of the inning.
(30:30):
It's four to one. They put up a run to
go five to one. They win the game like that.
That's so maddening to me. But this falls under the
elementary lazy Yankees, little league Yankees. They have to do
things better. Fundamentally, you don't swing at the first you
swing at that first pitch. That's gotta be a line
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drive into the gap. If you're gonna swing at the
first pitch after a guy has walked the bases loaded
on his first bat, having trouble finding the plate, and
you not only do you swing in a pitch, you
swinging a pitch out of the strike zone. Like this
is where I sit here and say, this is what
Aaron Boone has to wear and yes, you can change
the players, but when you go from a World Series
that you could have won if maybe you would not
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played it like a little league team, and now you're
losing the Alds and still there's little League Yankees. Yeah,
this is where Aaron Boone's gonna be the guy where
it's like, okay, you can't have this is now two
plus seasons. This little League Yankee stigma is out there
and they're not fixing stuff, and somebody's got to bear
the responsibility for that. Like, I can't believe it's not
gonna be Aaron Boone.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
Real Quick, Bellinger, Grissom, Goldschmidt, Williams Weaver, all free agents,
as well as potentially Rosario Slater and a couple of pitchers.
Speaker 5 (31:42):
Well that what's his name the first basement for the
Mets is gonna fit right in because.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
Yeah, hey, you want to give Peter A Lonzo all
that money, go ahead.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
Sure and go back to Volpi. He unfortunately is always
going to be dealing with the specter of number two
and him being on the Fox broadcast probably doesn't help it.
But nineteen seventy two an eighteen stolen base, that's a
pretty good year. Except that he hits two twelve and
strikes out a lot, and then the playoffs couldn't hit
the broad side of a bar.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
Exit out about a Fresca exit swollen dome. The Jason
Smith Show with my best friend Mike Carmen time out
to find out what's trending in the wide world of sports.
From Monci Belanias, who's all the latest MLB, NFL news,
NHL news tonight?
Speaker 2 (32:23):
She's got us right. Wouldn't it be great if we
could all play some hockey?
Speaker 8 (32:26):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (32:27):
Kyle Schwarber threw a touchdown and that's how they won.
I'm just all confused. He did win by a touch
he did? I mean, he tried to throw that football
over the mountain with no extra point. But yeah, so
I'm glad you brought that up.
Speaker 8 (32:40):
Harmon.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
There's a story that Brianna Brie are Brianna Muro my bestie?
Speaker 8 (32:44):
Over here?
Speaker 1 (32:45):
She's like, did you know did you just get her
name wrong?
Speaker 8 (32:47):
Your best Briannamuro?
Speaker 6 (32:49):
No?
Speaker 1 (32:49):
I thought you stopped and said no.
Speaker 8 (32:52):
She said breathe and then I said the full name.
Speaker 4 (32:54):
Oh listen, Joe, No, I do not have your headache.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
No, I don't have headache. Okay, my Spanish is a
little rusty.
Speaker 8 (33:11):
This smitch just smidge.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
But she was like, did you know that that Kyle
Schwarber is the only player other than one other guy
to hit a ball outside of Dodger Stadium.
Speaker 8 (33:18):
I was like, that's not right. I was like, I'm
a tour guy. That's not right. She's like, no, it's
in the story.
Speaker 3 (33:22):
And she sent me an AP News story about this,
and this is incorrect.
Speaker 5 (33:27):
There's a gen Carlo Stanton's hit it out twice, Mark.
Speaker 3 (33:32):
McGuire, really stargel twice and Carlos Stanton once You're right,
Mark McGuire, my Fiazza, Fernando tatist Junior.
Speaker 8 (33:41):
I mean, he was cheating, but it was exactly we
know why.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
It was probably written by a gen Z writer the
first time. It's never happened, but there was happening. There's
baseball in the nineteen seventies.
Speaker 3 (33:51):
First player to do it since really's stargile and it's like, no, absolutely,
still not even sort of.
Speaker 8 (33:58):
So now we know that it's happened other times.
Speaker 3 (34:01):
But yes, Kyle Schwarber homer twice today and the Phillies
crushed the Dodgers eight to two.
Speaker 8 (34:06):
They forced a Game four that's going to be tomorrow
in LA.
Speaker 3 (34:09):
Cubs also kept their season alive with the four to
three win over the Brewers.
Speaker 8 (34:13):
They scored all their runs in the first sinning. Game
four is also tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (34:18):
Blue Jays are headed to the Alcs for the first
time since twenty sixteen. After defeating the Yankees five to
two in their Game four, Toronto outscored New York thirty
four to nineteen in the series.
Speaker 8 (34:29):
After the game, Yankees.
Speaker 3 (34:30):
Manager Aaron Boone said he expects to be back next
year because he's under contract. The Tigers scored nine runs,
nine unanswered runs, and they beat the Mariners nine three
in Game four, so Game five is going.
Speaker 8 (34:41):
To take place in Seattle on Friday.
Speaker 3 (34:43):
When it comes to the NFL a late night trade,
the Jaguars are trading cornerback Tyson Campbell and a seventh
round pick to the Browns in exchange for cornerback Greg
Newsom and a sixth round pick. Bengals head coach Zach
Taylor did name Joe Flacco as a team starting quarterback
for their game Sunday against the Packers. Head coach Kevin
Stefanski wouldn't commit to a backup quarterback behind Dylan Gabriel.
(35:04):
He said later this week they would make the announcement
should Dor Sandras Bailey Zappi are in line for the
number two spot following the trade of Joe Flacco yesterday.
No practice today for Raiders tight end Brock Bowers, or
for Ravens quarterback Lamar Jackson in the WNBA aces or
one win away from winning the title.
Speaker 8 (35:22):
As they edged the Mercury ninety to eighty eight.
Speaker 3 (35:24):
Asia Wilson dropped thirty four points, including the go ahead
bucket with five seconds to go. When it came to hockey,
the King's edged the Golden Knights six to five in
a shootout. Flames beat the Oilers four to three in
a shootout, but Leon dry Sidle has reached four hundred
career goals and the Bruins top the Capitals three to one. Well,
the Maple Leafs outscored the Canadians five to two.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
Thank you very much.
Speaker 8 (35:46):
I'm about to start singing, Scott Good, what's you gonna do?
Speaker 1 (35:50):
The Scott's talk saws, Hey.
Speaker 3 (35:52):
Mister Scott, what you're gonna do to make our dreams
come true? Hey missus Scott, such an awkward, awkward.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
That's gonna be going through your head all day. To mob.
Speaker 8 (36:01):
You know, I'm gonna listen to Taylor Swift. That's been
on my head. It'll come back. I'll way back to singing.
You know, Fate of Ophelia.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
Listen to Father Figure. You know, you know the Fate
of Ophelia. Yes, she drowns, Yes, she drowns herself.
Speaker 8 (36:15):
Right, she died. What is she? What is Hamlet?
Speaker 1 (36:22):
She's in Hamlet.
Speaker 3 (36:23):
H They all died Alamburger, Hamlet, Hamburger right in Hamlet,
everybody does.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
Yeah, just about. She kills herself. She drowns herself.
Speaker 8 (36:33):
She drowns herself, drowns herself.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
Fort and Bras is okay, he's just like the met season. Yeah,
that was boch fort in Bras. There you go. We
put a big bow on tonight. Major League Baseball, give
you our picks for TNF tomorrow night. Keep it right here, Jason.
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