September 19, 2025 • 41 mins
Jason explains that you can't send a bigger message that "These bullpen performances will not stand" than Blake Snell not coming off the mound & finishing the 7th inning. The guys have all the latest on the Tom Brady story. And Ben Johnson’s Bears are bad at practice!
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content out for you every single night. Now, we had
something happen in Major League Baseball a little while ago that,
again I've never seen that has big ramifications for the
playoffs and beyond, and not only that, I will tell
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the team how to handle this post game, because things
are gonna get a little weird.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Good weird is good the most of the time.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Dodgers beat the Phillies tonight five nothing right, Okay, yeah,
Blake Snell pitches great right, seven innings, shut out baseball.
He gets the first two outs of the seventh inning
and then walks the next two batters. Okay. Now at
this point, Dave Roberts wants to go to the bullpen. Okay,
running out of gas. He's up over one hundred pitches.
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And you can see what Dave Roberts does is as
soon as Snell walks runners at first and second and
can is coming up, he makes a motion with his
hand talk, go talk to the mount to his infielders
come in by Alex Vessia, the reliever coming in the game,
more time to throw a couple more warm up pitches
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than he comes into the game, so he goes talk
talk talk. The infielders make their way slowly to the
mount and they stand there. They know exactly what's going on.
They know exactly that, Okay Roberts is doing this. They're
gonna stand there for however long the homeplate on Pire
will allow him to stand there for the home plate
on Pire will get up and say, okay, break it up.
Then Dave Roberts will come out, make the move, Alex
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VESSI will come into the game. Right. You see this
all the time, right, buy some time for the leave
it or throw another couple of pitches. So that's exactly
what happens. Right. The players come in, Mookie Bets, Freddie Freeman,
they come and they stand there and Blake Snell standing
on the mount if you could tell he's probably not happy.
And Dave Roberts comes out to the mound and Alex
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Vesia is on his way in from the bullpen. On
his way in. He's on the field, coming in from
the bullpen. Except something weird happens. Blake Snell tells Dave Roberts,
I'm not coming out of the game.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
He pulls a full Jordan Belford.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
And I've got that I'm not going anywhere.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
I'm not going.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
And so Dave Roberts has a split decision to make
because he's got a reliever coming in from the bullpen
and he's got his starter saying he wants to stay
in the game. This is not just hey, Blake Snell
wants to stay in This is a Dodger bullpen that
has been absolutely terrible over the past few months, one
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of the worst bullpens in baseball, second most home runs
given up. It was just a night ago show, Hey
o Tani, five innings, no hitter. The bullpen comes in
one inning later, the lead is gone and win. Right,
it's bad, right, it's bad, bad, bad. So Dave Roberts
has a split decision to make do I back my starter?
Do I back my bullpen? And this is how it
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played out for Roberts and the Dodgers.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
They're gonna have a ord fact, go out to talk
to him. Otto Kemp is duop.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Just as emotions as passion mute can tell how bad
he wants this, get three seven innings, does not want
to come out of this game.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
Well, you know he knows what the visit is for.
It's the Bible of the time for Vessie to get
a few more throws in. And usually this is followed
by Dave Roberts.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Knout and make it a change the Bonnie language. Hope
here he comes.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
And this is not going to be a popular no
site for this Dodger Stadium crowd. Blake Snell's telling him
stay back there.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
Yeah, I got it. Does this not have all the
Tampa Bay? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (04:38):
If the flash past the world's harries against the Dodgers
and he did not want to come.
Speaker 4 (04:42):
Out, how about that?
Speaker 1 (04:44):
Yeah, in this situation, he can't. Bessie was already headed
out there. Get back there, Alex, He's going.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
To play left field.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
It was okraty pats left field.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
I thank everybody kind of reading the room right here,
Blake Snell knowing that this team needs this, Dave Roberts
looking his pitcher in the eye and saying, you got it.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
So that Dodgers TV on the call all right now,
maybe a little more giggly than I would have thought,
given the Yeah, they like more tens in our studio
than it was in there because they weren't really describing
exactly how things were going on on the field. Now,
there's many things to say coming off this right many,
but the first thing I'm gonna say is this. This
is this is where Blake Snell has to at the
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end of the game. He's gonna talk to the media
and we'll bring that to you. When he does Uh
is that to say, hey, Kevin Cash, you did this
in twenty twenty we win in the World Series. You
leave me in for that? Where's my ring, Kevin? I
gotta watch rookie Betts have a ring because I don't
have a ring. Big moment. Okay, the first of part,
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because this is both a great and terrible moment for
the Dodgers. The great part of it is this, you
have found your game one starter for the playoffs. Blake
Snell is a Dodger man missed a lot of the
season injured. You have a lot of talent starting pitches,
right when with the Amamoto and Kersshaw and Glass, now
all these, Blake Snell is your game one starter. Right.
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He grabbed the crowd, he grabbed the team, He grabbed
the moment. He grabbed the flag and planted it and said,
I'm staying in this game. It's a juice. Uh, it's
it's a jolt of electricity and juice. The Dodgers need this,
This pitching staff needs. You get to the you get
to the playoffs. Now he's your starter for Game one.
He's got exact he's got the guts and the and
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and the and the Cojones to say, hey, I'm staying
in this game. I want this. I got it right,
because that's exactly what he did. When when when Roberts
is walking out, Blake Snell is shaking his head going no, no, no, no,
not so much. Hey, I got it, Dave, don't worry, okay,
and they slap each other on the button and they
go no, no, no. This was Blake Snell going no, no,
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no no, and he tells Dave Roberts, I got it.
I got this, And Roberts has a split decision to
make because do I stick with him. Do I do
I risk upset him coming out going to a bullpen
that's been bad, or do I stay behind Blake Snell
and the crowd loves it, the loves it. I leave
Blake Snell in And it turns out great because Blake
Snell gets OUTO kept to strike out swinging. He comes
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off the field. They're playing the lights and there's fireworks
and Rady Newman's playing and Dave Roberts is the first
guy out. Yeah, I did it. My decision was right.
Speaker 5 (07:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
Hey, I'm taking credit for this decision right here. So
that's all the good stuff. Man, that's all the good
stuff for the Dodgers, because hey, Blake Snell, you found
your game one starter and you have said, hey, okay, bullpen.
But here's the other part of it. Alex Vessia does
not walk back to the bullpen like, hey, okay, Op,
you called for me too early. He's shaking his head,
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not happy walking back to the bullpen. Because here's this
is the terrible part of it. It was great you
had the great stuff with with with Robertson and Snell,
but the terrible part is now how pisses the bullpen
because you've embarrassed them. They know they haven't been pitching well,
they know they've been terrible, and now here they are.
You've taken your starting pitcher's side over the bullpen. You've
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embarrassed me, you're embarrassing the bullpen. How does this play
out after the game? Right? Like, I'll tell you exactly
what Dave roberts needs to saying in a couple of minutes.
But how does this play out now? Because now you've
embarrassed the bullpen who knows they've been pitching terribly, and
now you've set the precedent that I could go out
there and one of us becoming in the game whatever
it is, and Snell or Otani or Yamamoto or Kershaw,
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because Kershaw is the first guy going. Man, I never
did that before. As much as I told Roberts, I'm
not coming out, I never did that. Actually on the field,
you've set a precedent that something like this can happen again,
that your starter is gonna say no, no, the bullpen.
I got this. You embarrassed your bullpen there. That's something
that also has to be navigated. It's why it's great
and terrible, look because that's the hard part.
Speaker 6 (08:47):
For Dave Roberts coming out of this one, and he's
just getting to the podium now. But it's just the
idea is that I know we've seen this stuff with
and we've had the tales of Kershaw being in the
dugout and they say to the emissary down to ask
him how he's feeling, and you know, he sends word
back to Dave Roberts, I'm not coming out. Whatever whatever
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the case may be, how whatever the terminology he uses.
We've had that, we've had the stare into the dugout
that I'm gonna finish this. We've never had Dave get
on the field, at least to my thinking. And we
watch a lot of Dodger games here in the studio
and being here in La plenty plenty of experience watching
pitching changes in moments that a lot of folks lament
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right where Dave Roberts guys are having great starts, no
hit starts, whatever, and the egos plays the percentages.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Here's someone it's like someone.
Speaker 6 (09:38):
Poured a cup of water over the computer to blow
it up, and it's like, all right, all right, now.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
What are we gonna do?
Speaker 6 (09:44):
So so he goes out and the hard part is,
and we talk about it a lot on the show
and have for our time here the optics of a situation.
If Bessia never gets through that door and onto the field,
then it doesn't matter, and he can be pissed and
they everybody in the bullpen can be mad, but you
don't have the optic of him walking out and having
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to do the however many yard walk of shame because
he's been put back.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Now, on some level.
Speaker 6 (10:12):
The competitive i mean, the competitor in him wants to
come in and finish this job right, two out, two on,
and come in and close and close out the inning
and move to the eighth. But there's gonna be that
real moment of wow, Okay, now he doesn't trust that
we can do our jobs, and you've got a little
bit of division, and some of that is going to
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have to be smoothed over, there's no question about it.
But in that moment, yeah, he's in the middle of
the walking into the field all right here, and then
the crowd erupts because Snell has been able to get
Dave to go back, and so now you've got precedents
set there because you've also gone against all the analytics,
all of the data and everything else that has been
such a hallmark of the Dodgers low these many years
(10:55):
since the new administration took over in terms of GM
and how they manage game the game, manage bullpen starts,
manage uh, how they're positioning players, et cetera. And for
Blake Snell, he bet on himself. Dave walked off and
let him have the the moment, and in five pitches
(11:16):
it paid off.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Now, now.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
To hell, I'm gonna throw this by you, right, this
is Li's deep analysis.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Now I'm not on the man. You're not throwing anything past.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
Me now, We're seeing how this played out. And I
know that pitchers, sometimes the best pictures, sometimes do stuff
like this. I wonder if Snell knows he's coming to
the end, right, knows he's at one hundred pitches, he knows.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
At undred and seven.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
Yeah, Okay, he's got two outs, and he's got Costianos
and Kepler and Kemp, and I'm wondering, Okay, I'm just
throwing this out there because I've seen this and and
it may play out this way. He walks Costianos, he
looks like he doesn't want anything to do with Kepler,
walks them three and one, and ball four is nowhere
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near the strike zone. So then he goes after Kemp
gets him in five pitches, strikes him out high fastball.
I'm wondering if and this is where pitch you're saying,
I'm getting to the end of the game. I'm not
confident my stuff against these couple of batters, but I
know I can get Kemp right, Castellanos and Kepler, I
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don't know. Right, for whatever reason, I don't know if
I have it, even though he's been great all night tonight,
this is now the third time they'll all have seen
me a fourth time through the lineup. I don't know,
but I know I'm confident I can get Kemp. So
I'm not gonna go crazy with these two. And it
looks like I'm out of gas because I'm walking both
these guys after two outs and the bases are empty.
(12:51):
But I'm doing this because I know I'm gonna get
Kemp right here. I'm gonna get Kemp right here. I
got it. Don't worry, skip, go back right. There's a
really famous Tom Seaver story from when he was with
the White Sox at the end of his career, and
he comes into the you know, he's got the seventh inning,
he walks two guys and he gets Ken Singleton. He
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goes two and oh on Ken Singleton and Singleton grounds
out to second base and inning's over. And I think
it might it might have been Laruse. I know it
was told Sever okay, hey, you're done. Greg. There was
like the seventh inning, and sever was like, oh, okay,
skip whatever you say, I'm not gonna okay, And so
that was the end of the inning. And then after
the game, the catcher, it might have been Joel Skinner.
(13:33):
I forget the catcher went to the manager and said, hey,
just so you know, Oh, I went out there after
sever walked the batter with two outs and nobody on,
and I said, what do you want to do? He says, listen,
I don't want any part of this next batter. I'm
gonna walk him. Then I'm gonna go two and oh
on Singleton and I'm gonna get him to roll over
on a change up and get a ground out to second.
We're gonna end the inning. And okay, right, and it's
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tom bleep and sever what else are you gonna do?
And that's exactly what happened. He walk the next batter
on four pitches, went two and zero on Singleton and
then got him to roll over on a change up
for the left out of the inning and whoever. The
manager walked to apologize the Severs. I am so sorry, man,
I didn't you know let me know stuff like that
next time you as well, if you came out to
the mountain, would have told you that all this stuff,
So I know, you know, going back to that story
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that I've known for so long that pitchers will do that. Hey,
I don't want any part of this guy or this guy,
and I know it's gonna seem dangerous. But with two
on and two out, I got this right, and and
Otto clearly overmatched in this that bat Snell strikes him
out and yells and goes crazy and that and that's
the end of the inning. So I'm gonna give Snell
a little you know that that could possibly be it,
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and he knows what.
Speaker 6 (14:39):
He's got left. Eighty six you had Mark Hill and
Joel Skinner. Okay, all right, that was eighty five. Eighty six. Yeah,
you still have Fisk. He's the throughput on all of this.
But the backups Ron kharkaweis yeah that guy. Yeah, Joel
Skinner and Ron hassy Woh nice.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
How about that for a lineup? But yeah, from Blake Snell,
this he wanted this moment, Yeah, he wanted. And now
going forward, like I said, great and terrible. Right, we'll
hear from Snell, we'll hear from Dave Roberts coming up
in a bit. But if you're Dave Roberts, this is
how you got to spin it, because you know your
bullpen's pissed. You know, VESSI has pissed.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
So even though it was the guy's in the front
office piss but well I don't know because even though
you got the out, you went against Dave, went against
the computer.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
Dave on the phone, get Dave on the beat, and
not call for that.
Speaker 6 (15:24):
He was supposed the metrics said, he was supposed to
substitute right there.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
He's got to come out and say, hey, I made
a split decision. I'm sorry you came out of the bullpen,
but I stuck with But I stuck with him. He
wanted to go, he wanted the ball. I'm sorry, but
that's what I think.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
This is why we paid this load of money to
come here.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
And if you got bad, I would say, hey, I
made the decision to stick with him because I had
more confidence than he. I had confidence he would get
the out right there, and he wanted it. And you
don't need to come out and say it, but you
need to leave that. You need to leave that message
of you guys have him getting it done and a
little bit of tough love might not be the worst
thing for the Dodger bullpen, which is, again we talked
(16:03):
about last night, the X factor of the entire Baseball playoffs.
If the Dodgers bullpen is good, they're winning the World Series.
If the Dodgers bullpens thinks they're out the first round.
They play.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
It's just what a smart manager does. It's called playing
the percentences.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
I mean, it doesn't. You can't pretend that it was
your idea. But you have to say, hey, I made
that split decision. I trusted him to get the out.
That's all it is. So if you don't like it,
I'm sorry. I'm still gonna go to you still, Yeah,
but I trust him to get the end.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Now you need all the relievers.
Speaker 6 (16:30):
We've talked about it, and you're gonna have a couple
of those guys that have been starting games that are
going to find themselves in long relief, closer situations whatever.
The postseason makes strange bedfellows of that regard. But this
is the Blake Snell that you signed. This is the
guy that wanted yep, and in game ten of his
twenty twenty five campaign, he gave you a fantastic of it.
(16:51):
Because that strikeout Jason was number twelve of the night.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
Big night, big night exit. How about a Fresco exit? Swallow,
dumbingu I've never seen that before major League Baseball, And wow,
what a huge moment that was Tonight We'll have more
on this coming again, we'll hear what Blake Snell had
to say, Dave Roberts, But straight ahead, an NFL team
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What do you got to be honest? Did you ever
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Speaker 1 (20:22):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (20:22):
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Speaker 1 (20:26):
Or uh uh, let's see, let's see Yeah, No, a
couple of times, I mean good story. Yeah, a couple
of times good stories? Yeah? Sure. My record though I
didn't break it up with Morton. No, I did a
couple of no, a couple of bad ones. Oh, there
was one that screwed me up for a long time,
like my entire senior year of college. What yeah, oh yeah,
(20:47):
yeh screwed me up the senior year. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
I mean it wasn't. It wasn't to the point where
all of a sudden, like you know, people came over,
haven't heard from in weeks and looking at me, so skinny,
Oh what's he doing. I'm just sitting in the corner crying.
But just mentally I was like I met a shot. Yeah,
I was like shot. Yeah. I mean I mean the
the you know after that, like the girls I did
(21:09):
after that were like complete and total opposites of her.
That hurts you, like the other way, Yeah, that'll go
the other way, you know.
Speaker 6 (21:15):
I go back to the old David Letterman quote, remember
when he had a heart issue and was gone, Yeah,
and then he came back to the show and yeah,
well people people were asking me how I'm doing, and
he said, well, you know, they say, what doesn't kill
you makes you stronger.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
He goes, that's categorically untrue.
Speaker 6 (21:31):
Whatever doesn't kill you messes your up, messes you up,
and you're lucky to ever get it back together again.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
Same thing with a breakup. It takes a piece of
you away. Yeah, but I think you really so you
either grow over all the way, but it changes your perspective. Yes,
it's really I.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
Think everybody needs to go through a bad breakup to
the point where not not to go through a bad relationship,
but a breakup where hey, I get what it means
to love and lose. Sure, you know, because that that
sets you up for life, right, It sets you up
for that.
Speaker 6 (22:01):
Jobs, the tough class that kicks your ass. I mean,
they're part of that's growing pains.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
Man, I would have done better in this class, but
she broke up with me, and I'm really really mad. Possible,
I'm mad now, I'm just so mad.
Speaker 6 (22:14):
Gotta have the professor who's retiring that says, I really
don't care what's I'm done. As soon as these grains
are in, I'm out of here and I'm off to
my vacation home in the Alps.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
Leave me alone.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
No, I think it helps you. It builds character. It
gets you used to what relationships like. Cause like all
the you know when people say stuff like, oh you know,
I'm not dating now, I'm not dating serious for a while,
I'm not doing anything like Okay, I understand that, but
you need to date to really kind of understand what
you're looking for and understand that. You know, when you
(22:45):
go through a breakup and yeah, it hurts you emotionally, Okay,
what did you learn from it?
Speaker 3 (22:51):
What?
Speaker 1 (22:51):
What does this take? Is this the type of person
you want to be with? You understand what happened, You
understand the signs and things that go on, like you
need you need reps, right, like you need you need
dates to understand that this is what I'm looking for,
what I want in life, right, So you kind of
need that. So I was all the stuff that that
I went through in my life. Your relationships I had,
and and and breakups and relationships that lasted long. I
(23:12):
learned a lot from like I, you know, I I
don't know if I realized it at the time, but
I learned a lot from that over the over the
course of my life.
Speaker 6 (23:20):
And then you took some time to heal, yea taking time.
By the way, he's out again.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
Yeah he's not gonna play again. Mess you up now.
I want to say thank you because this is an
appreciation moment for a team that's zero and two in
the NFL.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
That is streaking towards ten.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, and yes it is the Bears.
Your team is such a beautiful message. It's it's awesome,
especially after today. We're going to hear from Ben Johnson
in a couple of minutes of what he had to say.
There has been no more entertaining team the first two
weeks than the Bears. They really have. They really have
taken all the talk. We don't care about two and
(24:01):
zero teams. They're boring some O and two teams. Yeah,
they give a little bit of conversation, but the Bears
from the beginning of the season till now, no one's
been better and I mean better for us to talk
about and for fans to laugh at and think about,
because they're not just fun in losing, they're fun off
the field. Like they go Week one, Caleb Williams, you
(24:25):
knew start with Ben Johnson and they give away a
game they led by eleven points in the second half,
and Ben Johnson makes a horrendous decision on a kickoff
that makes me wonder if he's even got it in
him to be a head coach in the NFL. They
follow that up with getting absolutely pasted by Ben Johnson's
former team who ran the score up on him and
(24:46):
didn't really deny it after the game because they were
mad he went to go be the head coach of
the Bears. What did Ben Johnson have to say? No,
they didn't run the score up me. No, they did
do it.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
Just some people that need some healing. Bakup.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
I can see the tire guards over your Chicago Bears pullover.
I can see the tire tracks of what the line, Hey,
there's tears on my Cutler jersey. It's great, okay, but
now here they are going into it next week, and
now we get more of the beautiful mess of the
Bears because Ben Johnson is squarely in the middle and
the Bears of the biggest debate and drama going on
(25:21):
in football, which really shouldn't because we've told you this
Tom Brady thing is a load of crap. This is
lazy journalists who want to pretend that, hey, Tom Brady
owning the Raiders and being in on some production meetings
with Fox, he's giving the Raiders an unfair advantage. First
of all, Raiders are rowing two. Secondly, these have been
going on forever coaches don't go into these meetings giving
(25:43):
away inside information. It's stupid. It's a stupid thing. And oh,
by the way, we said this last couple of nights,
for all the big TV shows that picked up today,
you're welcome send a check to us here at Fox
Sports Radio. So the Bears find themselves in the middle
of this because Bears play the Cowboys Sunday. Tom Brady
is doing the Bears Cowboys game. The week after. What
(26:03):
do the Bears do? They play the Raiders, the team
Tom Brady owns, will probably be on a headset during
this game like he was on Monday night. So now
Ben Johnson's in the middle of this controversy. And here's
him from earlier today weighing in on how he doesn't
feel that he's doing anything that's giving the Bears any
(26:23):
sort of or giving the Cowboys any sort of or
the Raiders any sort of advantage by talking to Brady
during a pre show meeting or the meetings they have
with the broadcasting team going into the game.
Speaker 8 (26:38):
I've been careful everything I've said since the season starts.
I've been in pure coach speak mode started, So for me,
it's just business as usual. I'm just fine. I like
Tom and we have a really good relationship.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
So all right, First of all, does that sound like
can laughter?
Speaker 6 (26:55):
Hey, that's straight off to CBS studios. Here in Los Angeles.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
People laugh enough, so we're gonna add some laughter when
we put this out online for everybody. Oh, that's great,
that's great.
Speaker 6 (27:05):
I really wish you would have come back with Well,
you know, you saw how it worked for the Raiders
when Gino threw the ball out of bounds, out of
fourth down plane threw it away. I mean, clearly that's
getting him over. By the way, he doesn't actually have
a microphone with the headset in the booth when ye
he was like he was in a listening library. Yeah,
hanging out and just and but for Ben Jonas, he
(27:25):
presses a button and it buzzes. The coach has to
wear a buzzer on his chest and it buzzes whoever
he wants to talk to.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
Well, there it is. Brady wants a tough Why you're
in trouble? What is it? You see the coaches do
that on the sideline. That's Brady buzzing the guys to
talk to him.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
But yeah, I mean we've talked about this the last
couple of days.
Speaker 6 (27:44):
You can download the podcast for the full arguments and
discussion of this entire nonsensical thing.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
And I get it.
Speaker 6 (27:51):
Some folks want to be the rulers of all things radio,
television and how business is supposed to be, and they
think they're the invisible hand. You're not, uh in this
particular case, if if Brady is that big an issue,
would they ever do any of these meetings? Because any
one of these people from Troy Aikman to insert Collinsworth
(28:14):
all the way down, ex players and the broadcasters themselves
could have gone, boy, that was really juicy.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
Who do I tell?
Speaker 3 (28:20):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (28:20):
Yeah, and we would have gotten a lot of this again.
I would call Kevin Burkhart and go, dude, you work
for the Mets. I'm a Mets fan. Tell me some
stuff I can. I can tell the Jets, like I mean,
what people would do that They talk. They'd call Greg Olsen,
they'd call anybody and say, hey, what do you think? Man?
Speaker 6 (28:33):
I mean, it's not like you're saying, hey, Tommy, here's
my laminated list of the secret It's like the secret
sauce and recipes you have at a restaurant. It's like
here's the trick plays we're gonna call, but don't say anything.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
But you not worried.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
Greg Olsen was a Panther his entire career with hey,
I got a soft fid. Hey, I'll tell the Panthers
what's going on? I mean, really, but Brady, just because again,
journalists are lazy. No greg Olsen expert. I mean, come on,
I out I gotten Jameson by the end, I got
Ben Johnson's back on this, right, I got Ben Jonson
back so far? Okay, okay, But then this is where
Ben Johnson says, Hey, we're going to keep the Bears
(29:09):
the number one story in the NFL through the first
two weeks because now I'm going to say this, when
it comes to what I feel about my team and
how we're preparing for games every Sunday, I think.
Speaker 8 (29:19):
Our practice habits are are yet to reflect a championship
caliber team.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
Oh okay, I'm going to ask you three questions. Mike
Carmenka all right now, he answers you should yes, okay,
So obviously players are who they are, right, but players
are who they Yeah? Sure, sure, Now I ask you this.
Who was the head coach of the Chicago Bears. I
think it's Ben Johnson very good, one for one, very good. Okay,
(29:45):
number two, number two, who runs all the practices of
the Chicago Bears, probably Ben Johnson. Very good, two for two,
very very coach heard, very good. Yes, what's off side?
Ben Johnson? Well it's I kind of know when you
see uh so knowing those two questions.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
Yeah, that's too.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
Who has the most influence on how a team practices? Especially? Sorry,
let me who has the most influence on how the
Bears practice? Okay, Ben Johnson, Ben Johnson very good, very good,
Ben Johnson, Ben Johnson, very good.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
I got the hat trick. I'm a wizard.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
Ben Johnson is sitting here and saying, yeah, hey, not
my fault, we're not practicing this. Whoa dude. I get
the guys are who they are, But you're taking over
a team. You've come in with a lot of power.
You're not just some dude that got the gig and
the players like, yeah, we're gonna play this out now.
You got a big contract, you're coming you have a
lot of sway here, and you're coming out of say
we're not practicing that way. That's on you, man. You
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can't just sit here and say I'm only the head coach.
You're the head coach. You got paid a lot of cash,
you waited a whole year to take this job, you
wanted this job with this quarterback. I'm sorry, this is
your This is on you, man. You're the guy. You're
the head coach. So what I see this is I go,
oh my goodness, now he's become Hey, I'm only the
head coach. What do you really expect me to do? See?
Speaker 2 (31:09):
I didn't take it that way again.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
You are such a beautiful mess, and I thank you
for being this mess.
Speaker 6 (31:15):
Oh and it's gonna be there all season long because
this is the low hanging fruit now for everybody to
kind of check in occasionally on the Bears and then
have some grandiose thoughts. For us, it's, you know, my
daily life, you know, the guy here at Fox Sports Radio,
with my ties to Chicago and my half a life
(31:35):
there is that I live and breathe this fun, fun
every every day. And this Ben Johnson comment to me,
I'm gonna take it for the positive spin of this
is what we're building you. Okay, we're not there yet, right,
I mean, it's a work in progress and coming from
what Eberflusa had and the red Kind.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
Okay, no, but.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
Look, look, if you're gonna talk about your guy building
a culture, I can do the same damn thing. Okay.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
I've also said it takes a long time. Apparently it
takes a long time to build a culture.
Speaker 6 (32:02):
Well, it takes a little bit longer, right, because you're
coming back from a lot of guys that were holdovers
from an Eberflu's run operation a year ago that was
characterized as being pretty loose and the players ran everything,
and that he got run over and steamrolled and off
he went. Remember his big moment in the Hard Knocks
was getting his beard trimmed and his hair done. Okay,
(32:25):
that was the most interesting thing the damn man said
the entire time.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
I got no bricks, I got no wheelbarrow, I got
no plans, I got no cement to port. I can't
build a culture if you don't give me the things
a build with.
Speaker 6 (32:35):
Yeah, so now he's coming in with that. Ryan Poles
has been empowered. Here's your extension for what I have
no idea winning the off season and hiring Ben Johnson.
You got Ben Johnson to sign a contract, damn it.
Here's your extra years. But Rome wasn't built in the day.
Caleb Williams, I think is going to be fine. You've
got pieces in place and you're building. But what I
(32:57):
think it's also the referendus on what's in that locker room,
but also a reminder everybody like you don't go from
being as bad as they were to a championship right away.
Right There's there's a building process that goes through in
two games in and with what they've had this offseason
and into where they are.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
That it's not fully formed. And I think that was
kind of the defiant.
Speaker 6 (33:20):
Hey, we need to be better, we need to clean up,
we need to cross the t's dot, the i's, et cetera.
And he's making that statement. I don't think it's ah,
we sucking. Our guys are a bunch of slapjacks over
in the lot.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
I don't blame me. I didn't do it.
Speaker 4 (33:36):
Wow, it's going full cross Wow, the crusty.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
Of the I didn't do it.
Speaker 6 (33:45):
I think he's trying to say, I'm imposing my will,
but it takes time.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
Oh okay again, you've come in with that cache learning process,
come in with that cachet. If anything, you're losing it
because the team wonders, do you know you're doing when
you can golf? You know?
Speaker 6 (34:00):
No, no, no, that was terrible and no no, there's no
getting around that.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
That was awful.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
Did you really prepare us because we lost by sixty
to the Lions? Man, you really did you game?
Speaker 2 (34:09):
Yeah? Did he hire? Dennis Allen was at his calf.
Speaker 6 (34:14):
Because through two games that defense has been toothless and
now you lose your best player for the year to
go roin injury. So bet the over fifty plus Caleb
Williams and Dak Prescott. Top five quarterbacks for Fantasy this week,
Exit Out Bout a Fresco Exit Swollen Dome. Jason Smith
Mike Harmon live from the Fox Sports Radio studios.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
Catch Cambo. If one team wins a championship this year,
I should get a ring because an idea I've had
for the past eighteen months is something they're considering. Cleveland,
It's Next, Jason and Mike Fox.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
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Fox Sports Radio. The Jason Smith Show with my best
friend Mike Harmon. So again, big drama tonight, biggest trending
topic in sports. Blake Snell, who told Dave Roberts go
(35:14):
back in the dugout when Dave Roberts wanted to take
him out in the seventh inning. Yeah, I told him
to beat it.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
Alex Vessi, a reliever was already on the field, walk
back to the bullpen, not happy. I've never seen that
before in baseball where the pitching change was happening. Blake
Snell said no, and Dave Roberts went back into the dugout.
Speaker 2 (35:32):
My man broke the seal coming through the gate.
Speaker 1 (35:35):
We promised we'd bring you. What Blake Snell said following
the game about it. Here he is right here talking
about what happened just a couple moments ago.
Speaker 9 (35:43):
That seventh inning.
Speaker 1 (35:44):
It was art.
Speaker 9 (35:44):
Yeah, two strikes or the two ounce and then the
two walks kind of with that mound visit for you
to end on that strike out, obviously you wanted it.
Can you just describe kind of what you were feeling
in that moment, wanting to close out inning out?
Speaker 10 (35:58):
Yeah, I mean, two guys, is that you know if
I get ahead, and then it's they usually swing a lot,
and I was going for the strikeout instead of just
attacking his own, and you know, seeing seeing.
Speaker 3 (36:10):
What would happen.
Speaker 10 (36:12):
I know both of them really well. I mean I've
grew up playing against Kepler Uh and the and the
miners all the way through, so no him very well
and cassing as I've facing my ton as well. So yeah,
I just got a little out of it and wasn't
executing pitches and they weren't close enough to get swings,
and then I was able to reset get.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
In the zone again. What did I say? I don't
know how much he wanted to face those two guys.
I was more confident with auto camp and that's exactly
what happens. Look look at me, I'm look at pitching.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
Comes a little bit well. I mean it goes back
to what we did yesterday with the Naturally, you gotta
listen to the whole show.
Speaker 6 (36:49):
Go find the podcast wherever you get your audio, and
of course all of what we talked about tonight. Once
the show's over, Patrick and Alex and the team will
have it up. Thanks fellas for making to sound so
pretty this evening. Justin h working remotely with us. All
that to say, Jason, I mean he talked about it
is like I didn't just go after them, all right,
(37:10):
So a little bit of regret there, Yeah, question got
a little bit. Uh could have just said, hey, what like,
what the hell happened there? Walks the doubt's the walks
that that's tri just what looked like some confusion and
Dave Roberts sent back to the dugout what happened?
Speaker 2 (37:26):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (37:28):
Now. The other big thing from tonight is this, I'm
pretty sure that if the Dodgers win the World Series,
I should get a World Series right.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
You're lobbying for a ring here. One.
Speaker 1 (37:37):
We should get the rings for the Rams because we
got Sean McVeigh hired.
Speaker 6 (37:41):
Yeah, I'm still mad about that. I mean, it's been
a lot of years at this point. There's more diamonds
that should be coming on it.
Speaker 1 (37:46):
We we should get it. We should get a ring
for that. If the Lakers win the title with Luca,
we should get a ring for that, cause you know
how much JJ Reddick hates me. Oh yeah, uh and
we we clear.
Speaker 6 (37:55):
That helps it burn? Yeah, no, that'll fuel them through
the season.
Speaker 1 (37:59):
I didn't think I I could get to the point
where I could say, hey, the Dodgers would owe me
a ring. But here we are the last eighteen months.
What have I said for sho Heyo Tani. He should close, right,
He'll extend his career as a pitcher. I mean, he's
already had two bad elbow injuries. I know that he's
come back. He's pitching strong right now. But close, that's
what you should do. What do we get today Shoeo
(38:20):
Tani telling reporters from Japan that, hey, he'd be open
to playing the outfield in the playoffs if it meant
that they could bring him in in relief, because then
they wouldn't have to worry about losing the place in
the batting order. It would be better. I'll play the
outfitlo he played the outfiel in Japan was pretty good.
Hasn't played the outfield in a few years. Can't be
any worse than ta Oscar Hernandez. And when you're not
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a defensive team, when you're playing Mookie Bets in the
infield and Harry is out, you're not built on defense, right,
So I think Otani would be okay. But all of
a sudden, maybe Otani listens maybe the Dodgers. Listen, Dave
Roberts says, hey, we'll think about it. I mean, doesn't
seem like it's something atop of mine right now. But
Otani playing the outfield, so he could come in in relief,
and you know that would probably be late in a
(39:05):
game to close or to come in to face the
heart of the order in the seventh inning and then
go back to the outfield. Yeah. So if the Dodgers
use this track, they win the World Series. Rings, man,
we should get rings. For eighteen months we've been talking
about this ring.
Speaker 2 (39:19):
Really did building it up.
Speaker 6 (39:20):
I've got a couple of designs that I've put together
on mockups.
Speaker 2 (39:24):
For what my ring should look like.
Speaker 6 (39:28):
That extra crown over the top, really an ornate looking
thing that maybe a bit ostentatious but takes us to
the next level. But for show a Otani, right, and
for the rest of the Dodger staff. Right early in
the year, it was a lot of do you have
enough starters? We have plenty of starters now, yeah, So
now it's how do you deploy those guys because you're
also now managing whatever hurt feelings you've got for Vesia
(39:53):
Mark Pryor and the bitching staff as related to the bullpen.
But show A or Kershaw or whoever it's gotta be,
uh Emachan. I mean, you got a bunch of guys
that you're gonna be pulling the strings with. But show
hey with the closer mentality.
Speaker 1 (40:08):
Think about that. I mean he did it to Mike Trout. Yeah, no,
one hundred percent got it. Look last inning of the
World Baseball Classic. I mean, like, it makes sense. And
if I thought it would hurt the Dodgers defensively, I
would say, yeah, that's difficult. But you know, look, defense
is clearly very low on the Dodgers' list of priorities.
Speaker 2 (40:23):
So what's just funny coming out of last year where yeah,
he threw up on themselves, But that's what it is.
Speaker 1 (40:31):
But I mean, really, it would make sense because it
also takes care of the Dodgers' biggest problem, which we
talked about with Blake Snell. I'm not coming out of
the game because the bullpen's terrible. Now you have Otani
at least strengthening the back end of the bullpen, and
in the playoffs, he could pitch a couple of innings. Right,
It's not like he's got to come in and pitch
just one and he don't have to bring him into
close every night. But hey, we're in trouble winning this
(40:53):
game five to three and the seventh inning. Otani could
come in and pitch the seventh, eighth and ninth or
the eighth and the ninth inning. He can do that.
It would solve a huge issue for the Dodger.
Speaker 6 (41:02):
Yeah, and in his appearances this year, he had two
bad outings, one against the Rockies, one against the aforementioned
Angels with Mike Trout and company. Otherwise he's been pretty
solid and consistent throughout the years. So the opportunity presents
itself for Dave Robertson.
Speaker 1 (41:18):
Rings, Harmon ring, we get rings for this idea?
Speaker 2 (41:21):
We got bad idea and pots delt to the front
of the rotation.
Speaker 6 (41:24):
Let's rings, buddy, size up, Tad, Come on? Can I
get brass knuckles? Exit out about a Fresca exit swollen dome?
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content out for you every single night. Now, we had
something happen in Major League Baseball a little while ago that,
again I've never seen that has big ramifications for the
playoffs and beyond, and not only that, I will tell
(01:19):
the team how to handle this post game, because things
are gonna get a little weird.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Good weird is good the most of the time.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Dodgers beat the Phillies tonight five nothing right, Okay, yeah,
Blake Snell pitches great right, seven innings, shut out baseball.
He gets the first two outs of the seventh inning
and then walks the next two batters. Okay. Now at
this point, Dave Roberts wants to go to the bullpen. Okay,
running out of gas. He's up over one hundred pitches.
(01:51):
And you can see what Dave Roberts does is as
soon as Snell walks runners at first and second and
can is coming up, he makes a motion with his
hand talk, go talk to the mount to his infielders
come in by Alex Vessia, the reliever coming in the game,
more time to throw a couple more warm up pitches
(02:11):
than he comes into the game, so he goes talk
talk talk. The infielders make their way slowly to the
mount and they stand there. They know exactly what's going on.
They know exactly that, Okay Roberts is doing this. They're
gonna stand there for however long the homeplate on Pire
will allow him to stand there for the home plate
on Pire will get up and say, okay, break it up.
Then Dave Roberts will come out, make the move, Alex
(02:32):
VESSI will come into the game. Right. You see this
all the time, right, buy some time for the leave
it or throw another couple of pitches. So that's exactly
what happens. Right. The players come in, Mookie Bets, Freddie Freeman,
they come and they stand there and Blake Snell standing
on the mount if you could tell he's probably not happy.
And Dave Roberts comes out to the mound and Alex
(02:55):
Vesia is on his way in from the bullpen. On
his way in. He's on the field, coming in from
the bullpen. Except something weird happens. Blake Snell tells Dave Roberts,
I'm not coming out of the game.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
He pulls a full Jordan Belford.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
And I've got that I'm not going anywhere.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
I'm not going.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
And so Dave Roberts has a split decision to make
because he's got a reliever coming in from the bullpen
and he's got his starter saying he wants to stay
in the game. This is not just hey, Blake Snell
wants to stay in This is a Dodger bullpen that
has been absolutely terrible over the past few months, one
(03:36):
of the worst bullpens in baseball, second most home runs
given up. It was just a night ago show, Hey
o Tani, five innings, no hitter. The bullpen comes in
one inning later, the lead is gone and win. Right,
it's bad, right, it's bad, bad, bad. So Dave Roberts
has a split decision to make do I back my starter?
Do I back my bullpen? And this is how it
(03:58):
played out for Roberts and the Dodgers.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
They're gonna have a ord fact, go out to talk
to him. Otto Kemp is duop.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Just as emotions as passion mute can tell how bad
he wants this, get three seven innings, does not want
to come out of this game.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
Well, you know he knows what the visit is for.
It's the Bible of the time for Vessie to get
a few more throws in. And usually this is followed
by Dave Roberts.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Knout and make it a change the Bonnie language. Hope
here he comes.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
And this is not going to be a popular no
site for this Dodger Stadium crowd. Blake Snell's telling him
stay back there.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
Yeah, I got it. Does this not have all the
Tampa Bay? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (04:38):
If the flash past the world's harries against the Dodgers
and he did not want to come.
Speaker 4 (04:42):
Out, how about that?
Speaker 1 (04:44):
Yeah, in this situation, he can't. Bessie was already headed
out there. Get back there, Alex, He's going.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
To play left field.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
It was okraty pats left field.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
I thank everybody kind of reading the room right here,
Blake Snell knowing that this team needs this, Dave Roberts
looking his pitcher in the eye and saying, you got it.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
So that Dodgers TV on the call all right now,
maybe a little more giggly than I would have thought,
given the Yeah, they like more tens in our studio
than it was in there because they weren't really describing
exactly how things were going on on the field. Now,
there's many things to say coming off this right many,
but the first thing I'm gonna say is this. This
is this is where Blake Snell has to at the
(05:28):
end of the game. He's gonna talk to the media
and we'll bring that to you. When he does Uh
is that to say, hey, Kevin Cash, you did this
in twenty twenty we win in the World Series. You
leave me in for that? Where's my ring, Kevin? I
gotta watch rookie Betts have a ring because I don't
have a ring. Big moment. Okay, the first of part,
(05:49):
because this is both a great and terrible moment for
the Dodgers. The great part of it is this, you
have found your game one starter for the playoffs. Blake
Snell is a Dodger man missed a lot of the
season injured. You have a lot of talent starting pitches,
right when with the Amamoto and Kersshaw and Glass, now
all these, Blake Snell is your game one starter. Right.
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He grabbed the crowd, he grabbed the team, He grabbed
the moment. He grabbed the flag and planted it and said,
I'm staying in this game. It's a juice. Uh, it's
it's a jolt of electricity and juice. The Dodgers need this,
This pitching staff needs. You get to the you get
to the playoffs. Now he's your starter for Game one.
He's got exact he's got the guts and the and
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and the and the Cojones to say, hey, I'm staying
in this game. I want this. I got it right,
because that's exactly what he did. When when when Roberts
is walking out, Blake Snell is shaking his head going no, no, no, no,
not so much. Hey, I got it, Dave, don't worry, okay,
and they slap each other on the button and they
go no, no, no. This was Blake Snell going no, no,
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no no, and he tells Dave Roberts, I got it.
I got this, And Roberts has a split decision to
make because do I stick with him. Do I do
I risk upset him coming out going to a bullpen
that's been bad, or do I stay behind Blake Snell
and the crowd loves it, the loves it. I leave
Blake Snell in And it turns out great because Blake
Snell gets OUTO kept to strike out swinging. He comes
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off the field. They're playing the lights and there's fireworks
and Rady Newman's playing and Dave Roberts is the first
guy out. Yeah, I did it. My decision was right.
Speaker 5 (07:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
Hey, I'm taking credit for this decision right here. So
that's all the good stuff. Man, that's all the good
stuff for the Dodgers, because hey, Blake Snell, you found
your game one starter and you have said, hey, okay, bullpen.
But here's the other part of it. Alex Vessia does
not walk back to the bullpen like, hey, okay, Op,
you called for me too early. He's shaking his head,
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not happy walking back to the bullpen. Because here's this
is the terrible part of it. It was great you
had the great stuff with with with Robertson and Snell,
but the terrible part is now how pisses the bullpen
because you've embarrassed them. They know they haven't been pitching well,
they know they've been terrible, and now here they are.
You've taken your starting pitcher's side over the bullpen. You've
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embarrassed me, you're embarrassing the bullpen. How does this play
out after the game? Right? Like, I'll tell you exactly
what Dave roberts needs to saying in a couple of minutes.
But how does this play out now? Because now you've
embarrassed the bullpen who knows they've been pitching terribly, and
now you've set the precedent that I could go out
there and one of us becoming in the game whatever
it is, and Snell or Otani or Yamamoto or Kershaw,
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because Kershaw is the first guy going. Man, I never
did that before. As much as I told Roberts, I'm
not coming out, I never did that. Actually on the field,
you've set a precedent that something like this can happen again,
that your starter is gonna say no, no, the bullpen.
I got this. You embarrassed your bullpen there. That's something
that also has to be navigated. It's why it's great
and terrible, look because that's the hard part.
Speaker 6 (08:47):
For Dave Roberts coming out of this one, and he's
just getting to the podium now. But it's just the
idea is that I know we've seen this stuff with
and we've had the tales of Kershaw being in the
dugout and they say to the emissary down to ask
him how he's feeling, and you know, he sends word
back to Dave Roberts, I'm not coming out. Whatever whatever
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the case may be, how whatever the terminology he uses.
We've had that, we've had the stare into the dugout
that I'm gonna finish this. We've never had Dave get
on the field, at least to my thinking. And we
watch a lot of Dodger games here in the studio
and being here in La plenty plenty of experience watching
pitching changes in moments that a lot of folks lament
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right where Dave Roberts guys are having great starts, no
hit starts, whatever, and the egos plays the percentages.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Here's someone it's like someone.
Speaker 6 (09:38):
Poured a cup of water over the computer to blow
it up, and it's like, all right, all right, now.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
What are we gonna do?
Speaker 6 (09:44):
So so he goes out and the hard part is,
and we talk about it a lot on the show
and have for our time here the optics of a situation.
If Bessia never gets through that door and onto the field,
then it doesn't matter, and he can be pissed and
they everybody in the bullpen can be mad, but you
don't have the optic of him walking out and having
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to do the however many yard walk of shame because
he's been put back.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Now, on some level.
Speaker 6 (10:12):
The competitive i mean, the competitor in him wants to
come in and finish this job right, two out, two on,
and come in and close and close out the inning
and move to the eighth. But there's gonna be that
real moment of wow, Okay, now he doesn't trust that
we can do our jobs, and you've got a little
bit of division, and some of that is going to
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have to be smoothed over, there's no question about it.
But in that moment, yeah, he's in the middle of
the walking into the field all right here, and then
the crowd erupts because Snell has been able to get
Dave to go back, and so now you've got precedents
set there because you've also gone against all the analytics,
all of the data and everything else that has been
such a hallmark of the Dodgers low these many years
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since the new administration took over in terms of GM
and how they manage game the game, manage bullpen starts,
manage uh, how they're positioning players, et cetera. And for
Blake Snell, he bet on himself. Dave walked off and
let him have the the moment, and in five pitches
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it paid off.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Now, now.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
To hell, I'm gonna throw this by you, right, this
is Li's deep analysis.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Now I'm not on the man. You're not throwing anything past.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
Me now, We're seeing how this played out. And I
know that pitchers, sometimes the best pictures, sometimes do stuff
like this. I wonder if Snell knows he's coming to
the end, right, knows he's at one hundred pitches, he knows.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
At undred and seven.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
Yeah, Okay, he's got two outs, and he's got Costianos
and Kepler and Kemp, and I'm wondering, Okay, I'm just
throwing this out there because I've seen this and and
it may play out this way. He walks Costianos, he
looks like he doesn't want anything to do with Kepler,
walks them three and one, and ball four is nowhere
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near the strike zone. So then he goes after Kemp
gets him in five pitches, strikes him out high fastball.
I'm wondering if and this is where pitch you're saying,
I'm getting to the end of the game. I'm not
confident my stuff against these couple of batters, but I
know I can get Kemp right, Castellanos and Kepler, I
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don't know. Right, for whatever reason, I don't know if
I have it, even though he's been great all night tonight,
this is now the third time they'll all have seen
me a fourth time through the lineup. I don't know,
but I know I'm confident I can get Kemp. So
I'm not gonna go crazy with these two. And it
looks like I'm out of gas because I'm walking both
these guys after two outs and the bases are empty.
(12:51):
But I'm doing this because I know I'm gonna get
Kemp right here. I'm gonna get Kemp right here. I
got it. Don't worry, skip, go back right. There's a
really famous Tom Seaver story from when he was with
the White Sox at the end of his career, and
he comes into the you know, he's got the seventh inning,
he walks two guys and he gets Ken Singleton. He
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goes two and oh on Ken Singleton and Singleton grounds
out to second base and inning's over. And I think
it might it might have been Laruse. I know it
was told Sever okay, hey, you're done. Greg. There was
like the seventh inning, and sever was like, oh, okay,
skip whatever you say, I'm not gonna okay, And so
that was the end of the inning. And then after
the game, the catcher, it might have been Joel Skinner.
(13:33):
I forget the catcher went to the manager and said, hey,
just so you know, Oh, I went out there after
sever walked the batter with two outs and nobody on,
and I said, what do you want to do? He says, listen,
I don't want any part of this next batter. I'm
gonna walk him. Then I'm gonna go two and oh
on Singleton and I'm gonna get him to roll over
on a change up and get a ground out to second.
We're gonna end the inning. And okay, right, and it's
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tom bleep and sever what else are you gonna do?
And that's exactly what happened. He walk the next batter
on four pitches, went two and zero on Singleton and
then got him to roll over on a change up
for the left out of the inning and whoever. The
manager walked to apologize the Severs. I am so sorry, man,
I didn't you know let me know stuff like that
next time you as well, if you came out to
the mountain, would have told you that all this stuff,
So I know, you know, going back to that story
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that I've known for so long that pitchers will do that. Hey,
I don't want any part of this guy or this guy,
and I know it's gonna seem dangerous. But with two
on and two out, I got this right, and and
Otto clearly overmatched in this that bat Snell strikes him
out and yells and goes crazy and that and that's
the end of the inning. So I'm gonna give Snell
a little you know that that could possibly be it,
(14:38):
and he knows what.
Speaker 6 (14:39):
He's got left. Eighty six you had Mark Hill and
Joel Skinner. Okay, all right, that was eighty five. Eighty six. Yeah,
you still have Fisk. He's the throughput on all of this.
But the backups Ron kharkaweis yeah that guy. Yeah, Joel
Skinner and Ron hassy Woh nice.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
How about that for a lineup? But yeah, from Blake Snell,
this he wanted this moment, Yeah, he wanted. And now
going forward, like I said, great and terrible. Right, we'll
hear from Snell, we'll hear from Dave Roberts coming up
in a bit. But if you're Dave Roberts, this is
how you got to spin it, because you know your
bullpen's pissed. You know, VESSI has pissed.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
So even though it was the guy's in the front
office piss but well I don't know because even though
you got the out, you went against Dave, went against
the computer.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
Dave on the phone, get Dave on the beat, and
not call for that.
Speaker 6 (15:24):
He was supposed the metrics said, he was supposed to
substitute right there.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
He's got to come out and say, hey, I made
a split decision. I'm sorry you came out of the bullpen,
but I stuck with But I stuck with him. He
wanted to go, he wanted the ball. I'm sorry, but
that's what I think.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
This is why we paid this load of money to
come here.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
And if you got bad, I would say, hey, I
made the decision to stick with him because I had
more confidence than he. I had confidence he would get
the out right there, and he wanted it. And you
don't need to come out and say it, but you
need to leave that. You need to leave that message
of you guys have him getting it done and a
little bit of tough love might not be the worst
thing for the Dodger bullpen, which is, again we talked
(16:03):
about last night, the X factor of the entire Baseball playoffs.
If the Dodgers bullpen is good, they're winning the World Series.
If the Dodgers bullpens thinks they're out the first round.
They play.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
It's just what a smart manager does. It's called playing
the percentences.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
I mean, it doesn't. You can't pretend that it was
your idea. But you have to say, hey, I made
that split decision. I trusted him to get the out.
That's all it is. So if you don't like it,
I'm sorry. I'm still gonna go to you still, Yeah,
but I trust him to get the end.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Now you need all the relievers.
Speaker 6 (16:30):
We've talked about it, and you're gonna have a couple
of those guys that have been starting games that are
going to find themselves in long relief, closer situations whatever.
The postseason makes strange bedfellows of that regard. But this
is the Blake Snell that you signed. This is the
guy that wanted yep, and in game ten of his
twenty twenty five campaign, he gave you a fantastic of it.
(16:51):
Because that strikeout Jason was number twelve of the night.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
Big night, big night exit. How about a Fresco exit? Swallow,
dumbingu I've never seen that before major League Baseball, And wow,
what a huge moment that was Tonight We'll have more
on this coming again, we'll hear what Blake Snell had
to say, Dave Roberts, But straight ahead, an NFL team
proving to be the MVP through the first two and
a half weeks of the season, and I mean our
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Speaker 1 (19:48):
Wow, Alex Tyser now just playing songs for his girlfriend
on the radio. What you think I play this?
Speaker 2 (19:55):
It's a long distance steady page. Listen, I'll play coming
home soon. I'll play this song for you next. I
love you.
Speaker 4 (20:01):
No, not anything like this, but.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
So good.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
I love you? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (20:18):
What do you got to be honest? Did you ever
get broken up with one time and it really hurt?
Speaker 1 (20:22):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (20:22):
Sure, Okay, what good story?
Speaker 1 (20:26):
Or uh uh, let's see, let's see Yeah, No, a
couple of times, I mean good story. Yeah, a couple
of times good stories? Yeah? Sure. My record though I
didn't break it up with Morton. No, I did a
couple of no, a couple of bad ones. Oh, there
was one that screwed me up for a long time,
like my entire senior year of college. What yeah, oh yeah,
(20:47):
yeh screwed me up the senior year. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
I mean it wasn't. It wasn't to the point where
all of a sudden, like you know, people came over,
haven't heard from in weeks and looking at me, so skinny,
Oh what's he doing. I'm just sitting in the corner crying.
But just mentally I was like I met a shot. Yeah,
I was like shot. Yeah. I mean I mean the
the you know after that, like the girls I did
(21:09):
after that were like complete and total opposites of her.
That hurts you, like the other way, Yeah, that'll go
the other way, you know.
Speaker 6 (21:15):
I go back to the old David Letterman quote, remember
when he had a heart issue and was gone, Yeah,
and then he came back to the show and yeah,
well people people were asking me how I'm doing, and
he said, well, you know, they say, what doesn't kill
you makes you stronger.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
He goes, that's categorically untrue.
Speaker 6 (21:31):
Whatever doesn't kill you messes your up, messes you up,
and you're lucky to ever get it back together again.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
Same thing with a breakup. It takes a piece of
you away. Yeah, but I think you really so you
either grow over all the way, but it changes your perspective. Yes,
it's really I.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
Think everybody needs to go through a bad breakup to
the point where not not to go through a bad relationship,
but a breakup where hey, I get what it means
to love and lose. Sure, you know, because that that
sets you up for life, right, It sets you up
for that.
Speaker 6 (22:01):
Jobs, the tough class that kicks your ass. I mean,
they're part of that's growing pains.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
Man, I would have done better in this class, but
she broke up with me, and I'm really really mad. Possible,
I'm mad now, I'm just so mad.
Speaker 6 (22:14):
Gotta have the professor who's retiring that says, I really
don't care what's I'm done. As soon as these grains
are in, I'm out of here and I'm off to
my vacation home in the Alps.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
Leave me alone.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
No, I think it helps you. It builds character. It
gets you used to what relationships like. Cause like all
the you know when people say stuff like, oh you know,
I'm not dating now, I'm not dating serious for a while,
I'm not doing anything like Okay, I understand that, but
you need to date to really kind of understand what
you're looking for and understand that. You know, when you
(22:45):
go through a breakup and yeah, it hurts you emotionally, Okay,
what did you learn from it?
Speaker 3 (22:51):
What?
Speaker 1 (22:51):
What does this take? Is this the type of person
you want to be with? You understand what happened, You
understand the signs and things that go on, like you
need you need reps, right, like you need you need
dates to understand that this is what I'm looking for,
what I want in life, right, So you kind of
need that. So I was all the stuff that that
I went through in my life. Your relationships I had,
and and and breakups and relationships that lasted long. I
(23:12):
learned a lot from like I, you know, I I
don't know if I realized it at the time, but
I learned a lot from that over the over the
course of my life.
Speaker 6 (23:20):
And then you took some time to heal, yea taking time.
By the way, he's out again.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
Yeah he's not gonna play again. Mess you up now.
I want to say thank you because this is an
appreciation moment for a team that's zero and two in
the NFL.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
That is streaking towards ten.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, and yes it is the Bears.
Your team is such a beautiful message. It's it's awesome,
especially after today. We're going to hear from Ben Johnson
in a couple of minutes of what he had to say.
There has been no more entertaining team the first two
weeks than the Bears. They really have. They really have
taken all the talk. We don't care about two and
(24:01):
zero teams. They're boring some O and two teams. Yeah,
they give a little bit of conversation, but the Bears
from the beginning of the season till now, no one's
been better and I mean better for us to talk
about and for fans to laugh at and think about,
because they're not just fun in losing, they're fun off
the field. Like they go Week one, Caleb Williams, you
(24:25):
knew start with Ben Johnson and they give away a
game they led by eleven points in the second half,
and Ben Johnson makes a horrendous decision on a kickoff
that makes me wonder if he's even got it in
him to be a head coach in the NFL. They
follow that up with getting absolutely pasted by Ben Johnson's
former team who ran the score up on him and
(24:46):
didn't really deny it after the game because they were
mad he went to go be the head coach of
the Bears. What did Ben Johnson have to say? No,
they didn't run the score up me. No, they did
do it.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
Just some people that need some healing. Bakup.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
I can see the tire guards over your Chicago Bears pullover.
I can see the tire tracks of what the line, Hey,
there's tears on my Cutler jersey. It's great, okay, but
now here they are going into it next week, and
now we get more of the beautiful mess of the
Bears because Ben Johnson is squarely in the middle and
the Bears of the biggest debate and drama going on
(25:21):
in football, which really shouldn't because we've told you this
Tom Brady thing is a load of crap. This is
lazy journalists who want to pretend that, hey, Tom Brady
owning the Raiders and being in on some production meetings
with Fox, he's giving the Raiders an unfair advantage. First
of all, Raiders are rowing two. Secondly, these have been
going on forever coaches don't go into these meetings giving
(25:43):
away inside information. It's stupid. It's a stupid thing. And oh,
by the way, we said this last couple of nights,
for all the big TV shows that picked up today,
you're welcome send a check to us here at Fox
Sports Radio. So the Bears find themselves in the middle
of this because Bears play the Cowboys Sunday. Tom Brady
is doing the Bears Cowboys game. The week after. What
(26:03):
do the Bears do? They play the Raiders, the team
Tom Brady owns, will probably be on a headset during
this game like he was on Monday night. So now
Ben Johnson's in the middle of this controversy. And here's
him from earlier today weighing in on how he doesn't
feel that he's doing anything that's giving the Bears any
(26:23):
sort of or giving the Cowboys any sort of or
the Raiders any sort of advantage by talking to Brady
during a pre show meeting or the meetings they have
with the broadcasting team going into the game.
Speaker 8 (26:38):
I've been careful everything I've said since the season starts.
I've been in pure coach speak mode started, So for me,
it's just business as usual. I'm just fine. I like
Tom and we have a really good relationship.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
So all right, First of all, does that sound like
can laughter?
Speaker 6 (26:55):
Hey, that's straight off to CBS studios. Here in Los Angeles.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
People laugh enough, so we're gonna add some laughter when
we put this out online for everybody. Oh, that's great,
that's great.
Speaker 6 (27:05):
I really wish you would have come back with Well,
you know, you saw how it worked for the Raiders
when Gino threw the ball out of bounds, out of
fourth down plane threw it away. I mean, clearly that's
getting him over. By the way, he doesn't actually have
a microphone with the headset in the booth when ye
he was like he was in a listening library. Yeah,
hanging out and just and but for Ben Jonas, he
(27:25):
presses a button and it buzzes. The coach has to
wear a buzzer on his chest and it buzzes whoever
he wants to talk to.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
Well, there it is. Brady wants a tough Why you're
in trouble? What is it? You see the coaches do
that on the sideline. That's Brady buzzing the guys to
talk to him.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
But yeah, I mean we've talked about this the last
couple of days.
Speaker 6 (27:44):
You can download the podcast for the full arguments and
discussion of this entire nonsensical thing.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
And I get it.
Speaker 6 (27:51):
Some folks want to be the rulers of all things radio,
television and how business is supposed to be, and they
think they're the invisible hand. You're not, uh in this
particular case, if if Brady is that big an issue,
would they ever do any of these meetings? Because any
one of these people from Troy Aikman to insert Collinsworth
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all the way down, ex players and the broadcasters themselves
could have gone, boy, that was really juicy.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
Who do I tell?
Speaker 3 (28:20):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (28:20):
Yeah, and we would have gotten a lot of this again.
I would call Kevin Burkhart and go, dude, you work
for the Mets. I'm a Mets fan. Tell me some
stuff I can. I can tell the Jets, like I mean,
what people would do that They talk. They'd call Greg Olsen,
they'd call anybody and say, hey, what do you think? Man?
Speaker 6 (28:33):
I mean, it's not like you're saying, hey, Tommy, here's
my laminated list of the secret It's like the secret
sauce and recipes you have at a restaurant. It's like
here's the trick plays we're gonna call, but don't say anything.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
But you not worried.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
Greg Olsen was a Panther his entire career with hey,
I got a soft fid. Hey, I'll tell the Panthers
what's going on? I mean, really, but Brady, just because again,
journalists are lazy. No greg Olsen expert. I mean, come on,
I out I gotten Jameson by the end, I got
Ben Johnson's back on this, right, I got Ben Jonson
back so far? Okay, okay, But then this is where
Ben Johnson says, Hey, we're going to keep the Bears
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the number one story in the NFL through the first
two weeks because now I'm going to say this, when
it comes to what I feel about my team and
how we're preparing for games every Sunday, I think.
Speaker 8 (29:19):
Our practice habits are are yet to reflect a championship
caliber team.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
Oh okay, I'm going to ask you three questions. Mike
Carmenka all right now, he answers you should yes, okay,
So obviously players are who they are, right, but players
are who they Yeah? Sure, sure, Now I ask you this.
Who was the head coach of the Chicago Bears. I
think it's Ben Johnson very good, one for one, very good. Okay,
(29:45):
number two, number two, who runs all the practices of
the Chicago Bears, probably Ben Johnson. Very good, two for two,
very very coach heard, very good. Yes, what's off side?
Ben Johnson? Well it's I kind of know when you
see uh so knowing those two questions.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
Yeah, that's too.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
Who has the most influence on how a team practices? Especially? Sorry,
let me who has the most influence on how the
Bears practice? Okay, Ben Johnson, Ben Johnson very good, very good,
Ben Johnson, Ben Johnson, very good.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
I got the hat trick. I'm a wizard.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
Ben Johnson is sitting here and saying, yeah, hey, not
my fault, we're not practicing this. Whoa dude. I get
the guys are who they are, But you're taking over
a team. You've come in with a lot of power.
You're not just some dude that got the gig and
the players like, yeah, we're gonna play this out now.
You got a big contract, you're coming you have a
lot of sway here, and you're coming out of say
we're not practicing that way. That's on you, man. You
(30:49):
can't just sit here and say I'm only the head coach.
You're the head coach. You got paid a lot of cash,
you waited a whole year to take this job, you
wanted this job with this quarterback. I'm sorry, this is
your This is on you, man. You're the guy. You're
the head coach. So what I see this is I go,
oh my goodness, now he's become Hey, I'm only the
head coach. What do you really expect me to do? See?
Speaker 2 (31:09):
I didn't take it that way again.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
You are such a beautiful mess, and I thank you
for being this mess.
Speaker 6 (31:15):
Oh and it's gonna be there all season long because
this is the low hanging fruit now for everybody to
kind of check in occasionally on the Bears and then
have some grandiose thoughts. For us, it's, you know, my
daily life, you know, the guy here at Fox Sports Radio,
with my ties to Chicago and my half a life
(31:35):
there is that I live and breathe this fun, fun
every every day. And this Ben Johnson comment to me,
I'm gonna take it for the positive spin of this
is what we're building you. Okay, we're not there yet, right,
I mean, it's a work in progress and coming from
what Eberflusa had and the red Kind.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
Okay, no, but.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
Look, look, if you're gonna talk about your guy building
a culture, I can do the same damn thing. Okay.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
I've also said it takes a long time. Apparently it
takes a long time to build a culture.
Speaker 6 (32:02):
Well, it takes a little bit longer, right, because you're
coming back from a lot of guys that were holdovers
from an Eberflu's run operation a year ago that was
characterized as being pretty loose and the players ran everything,
and that he got run over and steamrolled and off
he went. Remember his big moment in the Hard Knocks
was getting his beard trimmed and his hair done. Okay,
(32:25):
that was the most interesting thing the damn man said
the entire time.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
I got no bricks, I got no wheelbarrow, I got
no plans, I got no cement to port. I can't
build a culture if you don't give me the things
a build with.
Speaker 6 (32:35):
Yeah, so now he's coming in with that. Ryan Poles
has been empowered. Here's your extension for what I have
no idea winning the off season and hiring Ben Johnson.
You got Ben Johnson to sign a contract, damn it.
Here's your extra years. But Rome wasn't built in the day.
Caleb Williams, I think is going to be fine. You've
got pieces in place and you're building. But what I
(32:57):
think it's also the referendus on what's in that locker room,
but also a reminder everybody like you don't go from
being as bad as they were to a championship right away.
Right There's there's a building process that goes through in
two games in and with what they've had this offseason
and into where they are.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
That it's not fully formed. And I think that was
kind of the defiant.
Speaker 6 (33:20):
Hey, we need to be better, we need to clean up,
we need to cross the t's dot, the i's, et cetera.
And he's making that statement. I don't think it's ah,
we sucking. Our guys are a bunch of slapjacks over
in the lot.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
I don't blame me. I didn't do it.
Speaker 4 (33:36):
Wow, it's going full cross Wow, the crusty.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
Of the I didn't do it.
Speaker 6 (33:45):
I think he's trying to say, I'm imposing my will,
but it takes time.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
Oh okay again, you've come in with that cache learning process,
come in with that cachet. If anything, you're losing it
because the team wonders, do you know you're doing when
you can golf? You know?
Speaker 6 (34:00):
No, no, no, that was terrible and no no, there's no
getting around that.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
That was awful.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
Did you really prepare us because we lost by sixty
to the Lions? Man, you really did you game?
Speaker 2 (34:09):
Yeah? Did he hire? Dennis Allen was at his calf.
Speaker 6 (34:14):
Because through two games that defense has been toothless and
now you lose your best player for the year to
go roin injury. So bet the over fifty plus Caleb
Williams and Dak Prescott. Top five quarterbacks for Fantasy this week,
Exit Out Bout a Fresco Exit Swollen Dome. Jason Smith
Mike Harmon live from the Fox Sports Radio studios.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
Catch Cambo. If one team wins a championship this year,
I should get a ring because an idea I've had
for the past eighteen months is something they're considering. Cleveland,
It's Next, Jason and Mike Fox.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific on Fox Sports Rate and the iHeartRadio app.
Fox Sports Radio. The Jason Smith Show with my best
friend Mike Harmon. So again, big drama tonight, biggest trending
topic in sports. Blake Snell, who told Dave Roberts go
(35:14):
back in the dugout when Dave Roberts wanted to take
him out in the seventh inning. Yeah, I told him
to beat it.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
Alex Vessi, a reliever was already on the field, walk
back to the bullpen, not happy. I've never seen that
before in baseball where the pitching change was happening. Blake
Snell said no, and Dave Roberts went back into the dugout.
Speaker 2 (35:32):
My man broke the seal coming through the gate.
Speaker 1 (35:35):
We promised we'd bring you. What Blake Snell said following
the game about it. Here he is right here talking
about what happened just a couple moments ago.
Speaker 9 (35:43):
That seventh inning.
Speaker 1 (35:44):
It was art.
Speaker 9 (35:44):
Yeah, two strikes or the two ounce and then the
two walks kind of with that mound visit for you
to end on that strike out, obviously you wanted it.
Can you just describe kind of what you were feeling
in that moment, wanting to close out inning out?
Speaker 10 (35:58):
Yeah, I mean, two guys, is that you know if
I get ahead, and then it's they usually swing a lot,
and I was going for the strikeout instead of just
attacking his own, and you know, seeing seeing.
Speaker 3 (36:10):
What would happen.
Speaker 10 (36:12):
I know both of them really well. I mean I've
grew up playing against Kepler Uh and the and the
miners all the way through, so no him very well
and cassing as I've facing my ton as well. So yeah,
I just got a little out of it and wasn't
executing pitches and they weren't close enough to get swings,
and then I was able to reset get.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
In the zone again. What did I say? I don't
know how much he wanted to face those two guys.
I was more confident with auto camp and that's exactly
what happens. Look look at me, I'm look at pitching.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
Comes a little bit well. I mean it goes back
to what we did yesterday with the Naturally, you gotta
listen to the whole show.
Speaker 6 (36:49):
Go find the podcast wherever you get your audio, and
of course all of what we talked about tonight. Once
the show's over, Patrick and Alex and the team will
have it up. Thanks fellas for making to sound so
pretty this evening. Justin h working remotely with us. All
that to say, Jason, I mean he talked about it
is like I didn't just go after them, all right,
(37:10):
So a little bit of regret there, Yeah, question got
a little bit. Uh could have just said, hey, what like,
what the hell happened there? Walks the doubt's the walks
that that's tri just what looked like some confusion and
Dave Roberts sent back to the dugout what happened?
Speaker 2 (37:26):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (37:28):
Now. The other big thing from tonight is this, I'm
pretty sure that if the Dodgers win the World Series,
I should get a World Series right.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
You're lobbying for a ring here. One.
Speaker 1 (37:37):
We should get the rings for the Rams because we
got Sean McVeigh hired.
Speaker 6 (37:41):
Yeah, I'm still mad about that. I mean, it's been
a lot of years at this point. There's more diamonds
that should be coming on it.
Speaker 1 (37:46):
We we should get it. We should get a ring
for that. If the Lakers win the title with Luca,
we should get a ring for that, cause you know
how much JJ Reddick hates me. Oh yeah, uh and
we we clear.
Speaker 6 (37:55):
That helps it burn? Yeah, no, that'll fuel them through
the season.
Speaker 1 (37:59):
I didn't think I I could get to the point
where I could say, hey, the Dodgers would owe me
a ring. But here we are the last eighteen months.
What have I said for sho Heyo Tani. He should close, right,
He'll extend his career as a pitcher. I mean, he's
already had two bad elbow injuries. I know that he's
come back. He's pitching strong right now. But close, that's
what you should do. What do we get today Shoeo
(38:20):
Tani telling reporters from Japan that, hey, he'd be open
to playing the outfield in the playoffs if it meant
that they could bring him in in relief, because then
they wouldn't have to worry about losing the place in
the batting order. It would be better. I'll play the
outfitlo he played the outfiel in Japan was pretty good.
Hasn't played the outfield in a few years. Can't be
any worse than ta Oscar Hernandez. And when you're not
(38:43):
a defensive team, when you're playing Mookie Bets in the
infield and Harry is out, you're not built on defense, right,
So I think Otani would be okay. But all of
a sudden, maybe Otani listens maybe the Dodgers. Listen, Dave
Roberts says, hey, we'll think about it. I mean, doesn't
seem like it's something atop of mine right now. But
Otani playing the outfield, so he could come in in relief,
and you know that would probably be late in a
(39:05):
game to close or to come in to face the
heart of the order in the seventh inning and then
go back to the outfield. Yeah. So if the Dodgers
use this track, they win the World Series. Rings, man,
we should get rings. For eighteen months we've been talking
about this ring.
Speaker 2 (39:19):
Really did building it up.
Speaker 6 (39:20):
I've got a couple of designs that I've put together
on mockups.
Speaker 2 (39:24):
For what my ring should look like.
Speaker 6 (39:28):
That extra crown over the top, really an ornate looking
thing that maybe a bit ostentatious but takes us to
the next level. But for show a Otani, right, and
for the rest of the Dodger staff. Right early in
the year, it was a lot of do you have
enough starters? We have plenty of starters now, yeah, So
now it's how do you deploy those guys because you're
also now managing whatever hurt feelings you've got for Vesia
(39:53):
Mark Pryor and the bitching staff as related to the bullpen.
But show A or Kershaw or whoever it's gotta be,
uh Emachan. I mean, you got a bunch of guys
that you're gonna be pulling the strings with. But show
hey with the closer mentality.
Speaker 1 (40:08):
Think about that. I mean he did it to Mike Trout. Yeah, no,
one hundred percent got it. Look last inning of the
World Baseball Classic. I mean, like, it makes sense. And
if I thought it would hurt the Dodgers defensively, I
would say, yeah, that's difficult. But you know, look, defense
is clearly very low on the Dodgers' list of priorities.
Speaker 2 (40:23):
So what's just funny coming out of last year where yeah,
he threw up on themselves, But that's what it is.
Speaker 1 (40:31):
But I mean, really, it would make sense because it
also takes care of the Dodgers' biggest problem, which we
talked about with Blake Snell. I'm not coming out of
the game because the bullpen's terrible. Now you have Otani
at least strengthening the back end of the bullpen, and
in the playoffs, he could pitch a couple of innings. Right,
It's not like he's got to come in and pitch
just one and he don't have to bring him into
close every night. But hey, we're in trouble winning this
(40:53):
game five to three and the seventh inning. Otani could
come in and pitch the seventh, eighth and ninth or
the eighth and the ninth inning. He can do that.
It would solve a huge issue for the Dodger.
Speaker 6 (41:02):
Yeah, and in his appearances this year, he had two
bad outings, one against the Rockies, one against the aforementioned
Angels with Mike Trout and company. Otherwise he's been pretty
solid and consistent throughout the years. So the opportunity presents
itself for Dave Robertson.
Speaker 1 (41:18):
Rings, Harmon ring, we get rings for this idea?
Speaker 2 (41:21):
We got bad idea and pots delt to the front
of the rotation.
Speaker 6 (41:24):
Let's rings, buddy, size up, Tad, Come on? Can I
get brass knuckles? Exit out about a Fresca exit swollen dome?
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