Belichick's Dog Controls The Patriots

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You're listening to Fox Sports Radio song. Oh I bet no, no, no,
you can't play that ties. You gotta play a dog
barking now instead of Belichick. Got no, I gotta play
a dog barking because a dog apparently is making the
picks for the New England Patriots. Here, day two of
the NFL Draft. Welcome inside. It is the Jason Smith

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Show with my biss friend Mike Harmon. There's Belichick's dollars.
That's a that's a pretty good dog. Actually that dog
by actually making picks for the Bears as well. Uh,
I'm sorry too soon, Mike. You know what, it's just
because his workspace looks like that of a serial killer
from any film you may have ever watched or television show.

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I don't know if it's an episode of Criminal minds
every time they go back and show the Matt Naggy
set up. Hey, happy birthday, coach, you screwed it up again. Uh,
and you made yourself look like a psychopath on national television.
Appreciate that. I just I just like the well, first
of all, with Belichick drafting and you know, seeing the
videos and where the coaches are, we didn't really get
a look at the Patriots yesterday. So we see Belichick

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drafting from a kitchen table, and the table it looks
like it was brand new in nineteen seventy five, and
it looks like it's in good shape, like it could
be one of those dates well like he waited antique.
You can fetch a lot of money for it. I
think it's one of those things where all, yeah, this
table is thirteen thousand dollars. It's a big thing. The
table looks great. And then when they would cut in

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and show Belichick, who was not sitting at the table,
his dog was there. Dog sitting up there looking at
the computer. Babe. This is why the Patriots have been
so good for along. Belichick has a talking dog making
all the picks, making all the decisions in free agency.
I mean, that's a movie. We gonna say it's just
not a sitcom that we can get straight to series.
I I think so. I think this could easily. People

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would say, sign me up for three seasons already. Between
the the house we had yesterday with Mike Vrabel and
Bill Belichick, I mean, they've got twenty four hour programming
easy for the next several years, even if games never
came back. You know, look, Belichick, clearly, as much as

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you think he doesn't care about stuff, this is a
guy that knows about his image and clearly wants to
always tell everybody and show but look, I'm the smartest
guy in the room. I can have a dog here.
Ha ha. Funny. I'm gonna make a pick and I'm
gonna get up and walk away, right, and I say
I made the pick. I'm picking a Division two player,
first pick after we trade away, if we we trade
away Tom or let Tom Brady go uh. And this

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is going to wind up being a big momentous moment,
is it gonna be? Jalen Hurts will be a quarterback
and I draft a kid out of Division two and
get up and walk away, always wanting us to know
that I am the smartest guy in the room. Don't worry.
I am the smart Well, my dog may be smarter
than me, but I am the smartest guy in the room,
always been, Bill Belichick, Right, the minimalist look of it all.

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Here's a computer that they had to tape over the
word Patriots because they didn't want the competitor to the
technology and stuff being shown. So he had to cover
his MacBook uh Apple icon with a crude sign that
just says Patriots on it. Uh. And and he's got

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a very minimal set up, right. You don't have binders everywhere,
multiple screens like your day trading out of Gordon Gecko
and Wall Street. Now Here. He is simple at this
little breakfast nook. He and his gorgeous dog. That dog
was good looking dog. The dog probably talks. I'm sure
the dog talks. If anybody in the world forever, can

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you can? Can you talk louder? Bill, I can't hear
you're mumbling much. Let's just be quiet and I'll just
have good that louder louder, But you know, I still
I'm a dog. My hearing is good, Bill, because I'm
a dog. But it's not that good. All right, You
gotta talk a little bit louder for me. Listen, why
don't you let Brady go deal with Stidham and then
trade the pick in the first round? All right, good,
very good. But you close in on a on a

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screenshot of that, and he's thrown treats on on the keyboard,
and whichever one the dog picks, that's the pick. They
go with. No, no, no, no, no, no, no no no,
they've gone no no no. I think it's completely This
is a super dog and it's the first talking dog
in the history of the world, and Belichick hasn't That's
exactly what else. Nothing else would explain twenty years of
dominance outside of having the other team's plays. Nothing would

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explain twenty years of dominance like that unless it's a
special talking dog that makes all the select calls, all
the plays and everything else. See you think Matt Patricia
and Josh mcdana, No, no, they're just are getting messages
from the dog who's watching the game at home. Yeah.
Now you're going all son of Sam theory and whatever.
What's wrong with why you gotta go son of Sam
for talking dog? There's many of talking dogs have been

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all over the place. There's Frank from the Men in
Black series. I mean, there's all kinds of talking dogs.
There's no but to see. Now you're bringing in aliens, man,
what are you doing? Yeah, but you're going all the way.
Let's go back to a very serious you know, guy
was killing people in the seventies. I'm like, well, wow, wow,
let's go, let's have let's have a nice happy Friday
conversation where a talking dog can just be a talking dog.
I mean, I forget if Clifford was a talking dog

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or not. Maybe click Clifford was big talk. You've got
talking dogs on Disney Channel all the time. Now, I
know that's one of the great dad dog with a
blog for crying out late. Yeah, that's a that's a
I mean that's a maybe it's the same dog dog
had a blog. And now the Pats this is a
superior breed of dog the Belichicks running with. That is
an expensive dog, there's no question about it. And he's

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getting peer value with it. I mean, look at all
those Super Bowl appearances. Well, yeah, I'm a studied diamond
collar for every appearance. Yeah, and instead of the ring
shot with Brady, it's just what you know on the
collar that the dog wears just gleams as he slobbers
on it. Yeah, sorry, you can't do anything about that.
I'm a dog. I'm gonna clean that up. Clean it up.
Let's clean up. Let's clean it up. Uh. So, this

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is where we're at right now, Day two of the
NFL Draft, and there are no shortage of big storylines
day two, which is which is great because sometimes you
get to Day two and it can be a pedestrian
day because you can get picks that are generally players
that you're not as familiar with, and your reliant on
experts and analysts to tell you this is a good pick.
And this is where you get into the who had

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the best draft, Who's done this, Who's done this? But
there are a myriad of storylines to get to. And
while we're still dealing with the fallout of Aaron Rodgers
and you know how piste off he is at the
Packers after their pick last night. But clearly the moment
of the day so far, the Philadelphia Eagles in the

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second round take Jalen Hurts, quarter back Oklahoma. This was
a shocker. Jalen Hurts was ticketed to potentially many teams,
the Patriots. I thought the Patriots had wind up nabbing
Jalen Hurts earlier in the day. It was the Lions
who were connected to Jalen Hurts that he was going
to be the guy that maybe, all right, Matthew Stafford's
got a couple more years and Jalen Hurts is gonna

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take over, That's what it's gonna be. And instead pick
number fifty three, second round, the Philadelphia Eagles take Jalen Hurts.
Now you can say, hey, Carson Wentz is the guy,
he signed that big contract and and Jalen's someone we'd look,
we need somebody obviously, because you know, Carson gets hurt
and we you know, Folds had to play, and we

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need somebody in there who can play. And let's get
somebody new, right instead of worrying about bringing somebody back
who's a who's a retread or. And also, we don't
want to wind up saying, oh, we'll just put Ryan
Fitzpatrick out there if something happens. No, no no, d Nate
Sudfeld alone. You know look who closed the season for
him last year, Josh McCown. All right, So I mean
it's what what are you what are you gonna do?
So what this is not a message to Carson Wentz.

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I mean, it's a little bit of motivation form. But
if this is the guy they already gave a lot
of money to and he was playing an m v
P level three years ago, this is a pick they
can get out of Wentz's contract after one. Wentz had
maturity issues first couple of years of his career. A
lot of players didn't like him. He has trouble staying
on the field. If Wentz cannot bring the Eagles to

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the next level, Jalen Hurts can take over as long
as he progresses after This isn't like where the Packers
and hey, guess what, Aaron Rodgers, here's our succession plan
and you're out after this year. This is more well,
you know what, just in case, we absolutely need somebody
else to step into quarterback because we see what happens

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when when Carson is not and we don't have Nick
Foles there, so that's our big thing. But if something happens,
we can get out of Wentz's contract, and if Hurts progresses,
he can be our guy. Give him a couple of
years in the offense and he can be He's the
next level player in the NFL. Someone who is athletic,
who was young, who was cheap, who is going to
be able to make plays all over the field. He
really stepped up and showed me a lot that last

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year at Oklahoma when he wasn't a guy that made
enough plays at Alabama, Went made all of them with
the Sooners. This is one of those you know what
if it doesn't here's our here's our safety net in
our parachute. And that's that's exactly what This pick was
not quite a warning, but more of a hey, if it,
if it motivates you, great, but this is in case
stuff doesn't work out, we want to move on. We
can do it in a year and a half. Yeah,

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I think what you look at what hurts hurts his development,
uh and ability to to scramble, ability to work the
ball down field. I mean he showed he checks all
those boxes and obviously he wins. He's been a winner wherever,
wherever he's ended up and whatever personnel learns quickly and

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gets after it. And Carson Wentz, as much as we
love when he's on the field and things are clicking,
this year they couldn't keep anybody on the field right
there down to their fifth six wide receiver and begging people.
You know, I was waiting for some of those legends,
you know, uh, Harold Carmichael or one of those guys
to start getting back on the field as a receiver
and running routes when it was all said and done

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because they had nobody left. So that that's one of
these big questions there. There's just certain teams that you
always want to raise your hand up going what's going
on in the training room where all these guys hurt?
Why it is that something that you know you're catching
in the locker room. Uh, and you know, hamstring injuries
start to pile up. But with with Carson Wentz, you're
not paying him a lot of money based on quarterback contracts,

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and it was a big deal when it was signed.
So you look at where he's at. The cap hit
is obviously pretty sizeable these next couple of years. Uh
only eighteen million in twenty but then thirty four one
before that potential out so hurts progresses and you've got
some speed receivers. The opportunity is there, Miles Sam there's

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was it was good value for them In last year's draft,
he he showed that he's ready to be a big
player for them. They got rid of Jordan Howard, so
now it it becomes the question of you know, can
Carson Wentz stay on the field. It's good, good drama.
You know, we were talking about Belichick. I tie him
to the Rogers situation as we get back into that

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discussion later in the show. But for the Eagles, you
need an insurance plan, especially with a guy that's oft
injured like Carson Wentz. Look that that's I mean whenever
you take a quarterback now, and you take one this
early in the past, you could blow it off as well.
We need a guy, We need another guy right to
back somebody up. All we gotta get take bred Hunts,

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Bred Hunley taking anybody's job in Green Bay. No, but hey,
let's get somebody because you never know if the injuries hit.
But now, when you take a guy in the first
and second round, you are taking someone who you are
expecting to start for you at some point, and it
may never get to the point for the because they'll
be happy if Carson went straightens up, doesn't get hurt
and plays great, all right, great, then then it doesn't matter.

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But if not, this is the most important thing. We
needed to do not Now. The Eagles have made a
couple of really crazy aspicks so far, and Jalen Hurts
is out there with him with a team that you think, hey,
let's get an influx of talent here at a couple
of positions we need to try to win. But this
is a big shocker because this tells you what they
think of Carson Wentz as far as being a franchise quarterback.

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It's not that Wentz has been really disappointing. It's not
that he's been utterly phenomenal. It's just kind of been
an odd fit. And and the Eagles know that the
team played better under Nick Foles than they played under
Carson Wentz, which is weird. And if you can't explain it,
it doesn't matter. It's just the Eagles, whether it's they
like the guy, don't like him as much as they

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like other quarterbacks, but it doesn't matter. The team just
doesn't play as well under Wentz as they did under
Nick Foles. So this is let's do something. Let's cover that.
What happens if Carson gets hurt, what happens if something,
if something outside of the realm of what we're thinking occurs,
what if an outside the box event happened, something that
we're not counting on, and we need somebody else to

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play quarterback. Jalen Hurts is really talented. Let's go get
him and maybe if Carson is just okay for the
next two years while we get out of the other
twenty million dollars we're paying him for the three years
after that, and Jalen Hurts becomes our guy and guess what,
He's got two years of being really cheap before we
have to pay him, and then we can move on
from there. I mean that that's the Eagles saying, Hey,

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the future could be here for Jalen Hurts. This is
not he We gotta back up in Carson still our guy. Well, no,
but Joe always have to have the insurance card. I
mean that we go back to, you know, the Packers
situation of last night is you draft George Love and
it's easy easy to say, wow, you're gonna have an
angry Aaron Rodgers. Remember when Aaron Rodgers got hurt a

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couple of years ago, when you had a pretty good
team around him, you realize that you needed someone who
was functional at the quarterback position to keep moving things
with Nick Foles always a guy that would play well
in spurts, but for the long haul was a question mark.
And things came together for that Eagles squad and they

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end up building a statue of the man. So you
look at it from that perspective of all right, we
like what we we have in Carson Wentz, but we
don't know how often we have it from Carson Wentz,
so why not go and if we got Jalen Hurts
rated that much more and better than these other quarterback options,

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pull the trigger. Now you want to be it's the
Belichick and his dog. I'm gonna give the dog credit
for this. You want to be a year earlier than
a year later, right, especially with the guy who's got
injury issues. And I think that's part of the thing
with Rogers as well, with a couple of collar bone
injuries in the past. And some would argue that he's
not the same you know, guns slinger and downfield threat

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that he once was the same. Thing here where you're
just looking at injury histories and checking boxes, going all right,
let's prepare for our future because otherwise it's gonna come
up with white us in the ass. Just that dog
would if I let it twitter at, how about a
Fresco might get swollen dome? Happy Friday. As we get
to Day two of the NFL Draft in the middle
of the third round right now, we'll continue to bring
you all the big picks coming up next. We'll get

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into Aaron Rodgers the day after. Plus I'll give you
my favorite pick of the second round so far. Jason Smith,
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Sports Radio. Happy Zema Party Friday Night, Jason Smith Show
with my best friend Mike Harmon. We are five from
the Geico Studios. Here's Bill Belichick's dog. Bill Belichick's Dog
got a question for you, Um, what do you call
the thing on top of the house? Friday? All right, okay,
well you only have to say it once. Who's the

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greatest baseball player that ever lived? Okay, that's pretty good.
What's that candy? Are? That is chocolate and peanuts and nougat?
It's a baby? Right? Okay? Good? Well, who's that character
from Ozark that I like with the blonde hair. H

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he's a right ruth, right, yes, I keep forgetting yes
forgetting her name? All right? Hey who is that famous
comedian from the seventies, A woman She did commercials for, uh,
the soft drink. Yeah, last name was buzzing. Yes, yes, yes,
that's right. Okay, God you got it, got it, got it? Okay,
very good. Hey, you know I read a book a

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couple of years ago. Was really good. She writes a
lot of good mysteries. It was called Drowning. What was that?
What drowning? What was it? Bill Belichick's drowning? Ruth? Right, No,
it's just one. I think it's just worth now, just one.
I think it's okay. Um, well, we got a smart
dog here in my Carmen. No, that's pretty good. I
mean it's gonna work really well and balanced as I

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have a shot for every tight end currently on the Bears. Ross. Oh,
you know, we're gonna get to just what the hell
your team is doing coming up in about twenty minutes,
because really this is just I mean, this is how
to get fired one oh one yeah by the Chicago Bears. Well,
we also have to talk about his draft set up
a little more elaborately because Matt Naggy on his birthday.

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Not a good look. Yeah, no, no, no, not a
good look. Scared. We are sitting just around the midway
point of the third round of the NFL Draft, still
a few picks to go around. Pick seventy eight Falcons
are on the clock, followed by the Jets and the
Raiders for two uh and then we finished at pick
number one oh six, which will be the Ravens. As

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we're breaking down everything we've seen so far tonight, there's
so many storylines. You get to, so many players that
bring intriguing things. And look, he went over Jalen Hurts
and and what that means for Carson Wentz a few
minutes ago. This is one of those Hey, don't write
it down in stone. The Carson Wentz gonna be that
quarterback in Philadelphia the rest of his career. There's an
out after one and if he has not progressed to

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be that quarterback, Jalen Hurts would be the next guy up.
And they got him. Get a guy in the second
round thinking he's gonna see the field for you. You You
don't draft a quarterback and round one, round two thinking well,
he'll be about No, you're drafting a guy they're thinking
at some point he is going to see the field.
When you're looking for a guy who could be a
backup that you get in the fourth and the fifth round,
you're drafting a guy into because you think he can

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get on the field. Um, but that's where we're sitting
right now with that story Twitter at how about a
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doing to support their communities. My favorite pick in the
second round, and I'm gonna shock you's not gonna be
a Jets pick, right. I'm not gonna telle even though
I do like the Jets pick in the second round
because trade down and getting Dens. I mean, look, this
is no matter who you are, this is not me
being Jets guy, but trading down and still getting Denzel Mims,
who's a big game breaker out of Baylor at fifty

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eight was awesome because you've got you got another third
round pick tonight. That's fantastic and you're able to get
your guy and move down. Look at the Jets doing
things right, I mean they think you can see that influence.
I think it's having the kids in the office with him.
I think that's helping add in gaze. Maybe because he's
he's not so you know, laser focus on the draft.

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It's like stop asking to play the xbox that and
and finally just says all right and just blurts out
a name instead of, you know, being fully concentrated. I
think this is good. The distraction I think helps. So
when you're looking at the you want value obviously, But
now the second round. Things have changed in the NFL
draft where you now want a second round pick to

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be what your first round pick used to be. Like
when you can get somebody in the first round, it
was always, Hey, you want a guy that's gonna start
for a few years, they can develop in one of
the cornerstones of our franchise. That's what you that's used
to be the first Now your first round pick is
we want some was going to be a stud you know,
maybe not all pro, but someone who's gonna be up
at the top level of their positions for the next
five or six years until we make a decision and

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they hit free agency. So now that's the first round.
The second round is we want a guy that's gonna
be here for four or five years and be a starter,
and be a good starter. You know. It doesn't need
to be someone who it's a Pro Bowl, but he
needs to be a really good starter for us. This
is how you build championship teams. And I love the
first pick of the second round because I like Michael Pittman.

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I like the Indianapolis Colts getting Philip Rivers potentially Andrew
Luck when he returns. I like them getting Philip Rivers
weapons because they got Pittman then went out and got
a running back a few picks later and Jonathan Taylor,
so they're doing the right things and getting offensive weapons
for Philip Rivers. But I love the pick, and you know,
I like this guy. I was hoping he would fall
to the Jets, but Lavisco Chanel is a game breaker.

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This kid at Colorado. All the only things that he's
had to worry about has been injuries and playing on
a team that's not very good. But this kid is
so good. He's so good after the ball. The guy
is a beast and I've seen it, seen him play
a ton of games. You know, he's six went, he's
two twenty seven, is a rookie. He's gonna put on
more weight. He is fantastic. When he gets the ball

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in his hands, that's when suddenly he turns into a
yat guy. And I was really hoping he would wind
up being someone the Jets would fault him hopefully hopefully,
and then the Jaguar snap him up in the second round.
But I absolutely, love, love, love this pick. He's a
guy I've had my eye on for like almost a
year agoing when he hits the draft, he's gonna show
everybody how good he is. You know, he's not quite
Percy Harvin, but he's gonna show with with that, like,

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hey what you can put him on a different different
parts of the field and do really well, like like
the Minnesota did with Harvin early on in his career
and then Seattle tried to do. But that's the same
thing with you know, you're gonna put him in different
parts of the field. He is fantastic. I love this kid. Well,
that was a guy we talked about a lot, and
we might have been some of the few to see
him pack twelve and injured and everything else. So not

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a lot of visibility going on there except for highlight
reels on a Saturday. I think where my eye turns
is too well right where we are in Los Angeles,
the Rams at fifty two able to get cam Acres
out of Florida State to come in and become that guy,
and whether Darrell Henderson really becomes a bigger part or not.

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He had his opportunity last year. Uh, and he had
some fumbling issues that opened the door. You know here
you got Acres thousand yard guy, four teen touch gens
is able to put it between and they had a
bad season and he was still putting up numbers and
still able to carry them as best as he could.
So I'm looking at that. One kind of stands out
to me. Tampa getting uh and Antoine Whitfield Jr. Which

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really kind of makes me sad that you've got Antoine
Winfield's kid is already Uh. I still I still remember
and I still remember when he dissed the Jets his
dad when he was supposed to say I'm his wife.
Now you know, Winfield mom was walking around and he
was in his mid twenties. He was the Jets were

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going to get him, and he was hit free Agency.
I'm like, oh, we're going to get Winfield. It's gonna
be awesome. And his wife was walking around wearing a
Jets jersey would Field Jets jersey. And he was gonna
sign and then Minnesota called him and said, just come see,
it's get on a plane. Get on a plane, Get
on plane. The Jets couldn't keep him. He gets on
the plane to Minnesota and the next day he signed
with Minnesota. I'm like, oh, come on, man, really he
got out of the building, man, that was it didn't

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lock the doors, didn't you know, jam a chair under
the lock to make sure and that he couldn't get out.
But yeah, I mean, you get your offensive lineman that
falls into their lap yesterday the Rob Gronkowski acquisition and
now Winfield Junior to help that already budding defense. So
give a little bit of love, if nothing else. I

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wanted to just need you. Even if Tom Brady's not
your nemesis anymore, He's always in your head. Twitter at
about a Fresca, Mike at swollen home. Again, we're in
the middle of the third round right now. When big
names come off the board, we will update you again.
Still a little over half the third round left to
go and uh, so far in the third round, we
are at pick eighty. Uh. The Raiders up now for

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a double dose of picks. No matter what, the Raiders
will just take the fastest guy there. I mean, that's
at this point that I mean, listen, we don't care
positions whatever. Who are the two fastest guys left? Great,
give me both of them. Awesome, we got which quarterback
had the best forty Yeah. But speaking of quarterbacks, coming
up next, if you thought that Tom brady victory World

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Tour in this past off season was a big storyline,
well wait till we tell you what's gonna happen when
it's the Aaron Rodgers World Tour to find a new
team after this year, because that's where we're headed after
what happened last night. That's coming up in ninety But
first let's find out what's trending from special Delivery. Be
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Fox Sports Radio That Jason Smith Show with my best
friend Mike Harmon live from the Geico Studios. Apparently the
Raiders are just gonna draft receivers with every draft pick
for the rest of time. Speed speed speed. Babe Lynn
bowed out of Kentucky, Brian Edwards out of South Carolina.
They took Henry Ruggs in the first round. I'm not

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feeling good. If I'm a Raiders wide receiver and I
was already on the team, I'm like, oh, these these
guys are all coming to take my job. I'm not
feeling good right now. Well, I like with Button, did
he run the forty? No he should I didn't run
it at the comby. You don't need to know. Watch
that game tape. Do what the Raiders do. Who's the
fastest guy out there, Let's just take him, it don't matter.

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Uh no, no defense, Let's just play forty five, you know,
forty two games. I like it. Can we put our
wide receivers at defensive back? We can do that, right
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(26:25):
today Mike Harmon, which I really, I really want to
know what's going on here because this this is not
one of those boy I could do something better than
somebody else does with no experience, which you know, I
could do many of those things, but maybe being Bears
g M I ken. Because the Bears decide in the
draft tonight to take another tight end. They now have

(26:47):
ten tight ends on their roster. And that's not an
exaggerat sall, Like, oh my god, they got like ten
tight ends. No, they have ten tight ends on their
roster right now. They have so many positions of need.
Let's say, good tight end in the second round went Oh,
by the way, what was their big offseason acquisition? In
my Carmen, I forget? Can you remind me? I get
a lot of money? Uh? And Jimmy Graham, Oh, that's right,

(27:12):
And I forget. You know what, I forget my memories?
Not what position does he play? Again? I forget he
tries to play tight end? Gary and Clark, Demetrius Harris,
j P Holtz, Jesper Horset, Dax Raymond, good Name, Eric
Sobert and uh former second round pick Adam Sheheen, who

(27:34):
caught the ball as effectively as I did in the studio.
So he's a Notre Dame kids, so obviously everybody's excited.
He's near near by and they got to watch him
play on Saturdays, etcetera, etcetera. It's almost like they feel
like every year they have to bow down to the
altar of Mike Ditka Hall of Fame tight end and say,

(27:54):
all right, we're gonna draft one, because someday we're gonna
have one that's as good as you iron Mike. Yeah.
Between that and the serial killer set up that Matt
Naggy happy birthday coach. Uh that he had with all
those names of quarterbacks and just a weird looking wall.
I'll tweet out a picture of it. Just not the

(28:14):
best look for the Bears. And and I think they
followed the one in one out process. To Smith is
that they let Trey Burton go after his useless year
this past year, he had to draft a new guy
to replace him. Uh, you know, I really, I mean,
I'm I'm being really honest here, Mike. I don't know
how you're Ryan Pacier, Matt nag you come out of

(28:35):
this with people thinking you know how to do your job.
I I don't see how people can walk around and say, oh, yeah,
I trust the process here defended Look, yeah, defended it
in seventeen. When you say, okay, we're gonna go get Trabisky,
that's our guy. You know what if if that's the
player you decided you needed, much like I guess to

(28:56):
the same level with Jordan's love yesterday, if that's the
guy you decided you like enough that he could eventually
be your guy, have at it with Rabinsky. You look
for the positives and you keep waiting for them to
build around. Well they did him and Nick Foles no
favors by by drafting another tight end and maybe he's
the best of the ten. Well, you just wasted nine

(29:18):
million dollars then, right, I mean that's the only way.
That's the biggest problem is you go and that's your
big spend this offseason is to bring in Jimmy Graham
two years what was it like, twenty million bucks whatever,
and and can work out to a one year, nine
million dollar deal. If that's your big acquisition to try
to bolster your offense, why the hell are you then

(29:39):
drafting another tight end? Are we going to a four
tight end set? I don't think legally you can put
too many of them out there, even in goal line?
All right, what are we going? Jumbo package? Two tight
ends in the backfield? Two lined up and then two
you know, near side. What are we doing? And how many?
How many? How many kickers did they have last year?
Shut up? How many kickers do they have? At one
point during the spring and summer was it six? They

(30:02):
got a full competition of eight? They had that had eight?
They had eight? I mean that's I mean, I really,
how can you walk around as a Bears fan? They go, yeah,
my guys know what they're doing. They're doing as we've
talked about with the last Dance, and we'll talk about
it some more coming out of this weekend. I'm sure
is in Chicago. They are fiercely loyal to people in

(30:24):
their organizations that are loyal to them. The Bears and
the mc caskeys are no exception. They are the same
as Ransdorff was with Krauss and the other executives. What
he did, I mean, Kenny Williams, did he get fired? Nope?
You got us to a World Series. You know what,
You get another job, no matter how inept and crazy
your moves are. After that World Series, you get to
keep a job and you move up in the organization.

(30:46):
Bulls did it with John Paxson with the Bears. These
guys who get to run amuck for years, Really, how
can you tell me you know what they're doing? That's
absolutely insane. I'm led him out a Bears fan. More
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(31:07):
Fox Sports Radio and the I Heart Radio app Fox
Sports Radio. It is The Jason Smith Show. With my
best friend Mike Harman. We are live from the Geico
Studios and we are in the last third of the
NFL Draft tonight. As we are at pick eight in

(31:28):
the third round, we'll go all the way up to
pick number one oh six forty two pick of the
third round. When you talk about compensatory picks, the Ravens
will make that to close the draft out, and many
fun storylines to get to many players being chosen that
scratch your head, going, my goodness is just really gonna happen.
But before we get to that, and yes, I'm looking

(31:49):
at you, Jalen Hurts, and you Jordan's Love and you
Green Bay Packers. The ratings for the draft last night
have come in, and you and I and Mike talked
about this, uh the night before, and I said, if
I put the over under for viewers at twenty million,
would you take the over or the under? And we
both said, boy, we take the over. Just because of
the combination of we're all in quarantine. It's the first

(32:12):
real sporting event in a long time, and look, the
NFL Draft as big it is on the calendar. Now
you have a night where everybody is at home watching
no one's out watching at a bar, No one's having
draft parties. It's it's it's gonna get to twenty million.
And boy were we close. Fifteen point six million people
were the average number for the NFL Draft, highest rated

(32:33):
draft in history, the most viewers they got. They peaked
at nineteen point seven billions. We were so close that
I want to recount over oh, nineteen point seven million
people at the highest point watching the first round of
the NFL Draft last night. And let's face it, this
wasn't an NFL draft that was filled with star power

(32:56):
of recent drafts. I mean, really, what what What were
the storylines going into the NFL Draft? What the draft
was gonna look like on television? And where was two
We're gonna go? Right? That was that? Those are the
two stories like that. Every every other storyline bounces off, well,
where are the wide receiver is gonna be? And what
about Justin Herbert? You know, those are all the ancillary storylines,
the big branches off the tree. But the main tree

(33:17):
was made up of just what the hell are we
gonna see on TV? And where is two We're gonna go?
That was it? But the but but clearly the how
this draft was going to look and what it was
gonna look like. That trumped everything because all football fans
are always going to tune in, right, that's built in.
You're watching the draft or you're not. You're not, well,
maybe i'll get the draft another time. No, you're either
watching it or not. These were the eyeballs of people

(33:39):
that have never seen the draft before that I said, well,
I gotta watch this because I gotta see what this
looks like now. And we got fifteen and a half
million people at its highest point nineteen point seven. Uh,
this is really something and it was what we thought
it was gonna be for the draft, and quite honestly,
with now a day to look back at it, the
draft didn't seemed that weird. It didn't seem like what

(34:02):
we watched on TV was something that we really had
a tough time wrapping our heads around. We have seen
for the past month and a half new shows and
people on TV doing their shows from home from a
studio in their house by themselves. We had seen this,
so it wasn't something that was so jarring to us.
We've seen the beauty shots of Vegas with no one there. Well,
you know, in every city we've seen, We've seen nobody there,

(34:22):
so it wasn't as jarring as we thought it was
gonna be. But still the interest level in what was
it actually because the unknown factor that pushed this up
to where the numbers are, that's clearly what it was. Yeah,
I mean there's just so much too. I mean we
had a number of quarterbacks, so a lot of prop
bets on the over under of how many of them
would go and in on day one. I think that's
the other angle of this is people had action on it.

(34:43):
I mean there were a lot of prop bets and
and parlays and other things. I know, UH was talking
with Bernie Fratto our body straight out of Vegas. Uh,
Saturday night's part of part of that family. Uh. If
you got the top three right, because there were no
trades right, it went straight according to the book, that
paid out at plus two fifty. That's pretty good return

(35:08):
based on just picking chalk right, based on all right,
best players, here's where they're going and moving on. So
I think that's another angle to it, you know, not
to to get into the downer and not to take
away from anybody's individual story of how they got to
the draft. The number of murder and death and other

(35:28):
long stories and montages. I think that's really the only down.
I mean, it's a reality, and it's it's always part
of the draft. I don't know if it's because I'm
just sitting here by myself watching it that maybe it
resonated a little bit more just given what the news
is on a day to day basis. Not that you
should change that could change that. It's just observational of
you know, And maybe it just hit me a little differently.

(35:51):
I mean we've been dealing with stuff, you know, and
our friends, families or co workers. I mean, everybody's had,
you know, something that this past month, it seems, so
maybe maybe that just struck me. But the draft itself,
it's the technological glitches and problems everybody was waiting for.
It didn't happen. Roger Goodell showed up for the second day. Right,
he's normally gone. He's not right, or at least he's

(36:13):
not front and center. Right. He still gets his big
at their picture if they're at at you know, whatever
whatever event and whatever city. But normally, you know, someone
else's is doing some of the dirty work here and now,
other than just changing into his slide over baby hour
clothes between somewhere in these pics like he did yesterday
that had people really upset was he went from the
suit code to the sweater vest. You know, almost like

(36:36):
he was gonna light a nice fire and and have
a nice brandy while he was sitting talking to you
fireside chats with Roger Goodell. Otherwise. I mean, you're getting
the highlights, you're getting the reaction, you're getting the instant analysis,
just like you would anywhere else. The only thing you
don't have is six hundred thousand people in in local
bars and running them up in the streets. It's okay. Now,

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before we go on, you've said something talking of out
the Ohio State players who were drafted one to three
last night, and at one point, oh you saw the
stat that was flashed up. Their NFL network hadet so
did ESPN that Joe Burrow and Chase Young and Jeff
Acuda all were teammates at Ohio State in two thousand
and seventeen. Now, Burrow obviously want on to move on
to l s U. Chase Young State became a superstar.

(37:20):
He's taken second, Okuda taken third overall. So far in
the draft. We are in the middle of the third
round and Ohio State has had six players chosen already alright,
most recently Jonah Jackson going to the Lions. Uh in
the middle of the third round, they have had six
players chosen already. But think about that at the top

(37:40):
of the draft there the top three picks were all
part of Ohio States team in two thousand and seventeen.
So I just want to let all Michigan fans know,
because I live with one who's gonna come in and
hit me over the head with a frying pan after
I say this. But for all the Michigan fans who
want to sit here and say, why can't we compete

(38:00):
with Ohio State. We should be competing with Ohio State.
We shouldn't be losing fifteen out of sixteen years. Why
isn't horrible doing any better? Well, now you know why
you can't beat Ohio State. And you know why Ohio
State continues to drub you when you when you can
have recruiting classes where you can say, hey, three guys
who were on the team three years ago, we're going
one to three in the draft. That's not just a blip.

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Ohio State does things better. They recruit and develop players
at a different level than just about any other team
in college football outside of Alabama, L s U, a
couple of teams, and when USC gets hot sometimes on
the West Coast, that's it. That's it. Nobody else does it.
Ohio State is doing it as good as anybody has
ever done it. This ain't a blip. This is just

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the reality. Ohio State are the big bad beast and
Michigan if you win nine or ten games, that's successful season.
That I've said it for a long time and then
had this stolen by my Creenberg. I had said this
for a long time, that Michigan never had this tradition
of winning. You know, they won championship in It was

(39:07):
the first time they had won in fifty years. Now
are they college football blue bloods? Of course they are.
But suddenly they won and it was well, now we
should be winning championship. No. A lot of the big
wins Michigan's had over Ohio State has been years where
Michigan is not very good. But ay they rise up
when Ohio States second in the country and they somehow
beat them. But that hasn't happened now in almost twenty years.

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Twenty years, Jim Trestle said, this isn't happening anymore, and
it didn't happen. Then Urban Meyer showed up, it didn't happen.
Now it doesn't matter. Ohio State recruits and develops better
than they do everything better than Michigan does. It's not
really a rival. This is a rivalry in name only
at this point. It's just because hey, it's been a
rivalry for so long, you know, we talked about But
it's not really this is this is how good Ohio

(39:50):
State is. Where were look at the draft last night?
What three cities were the draft ratings highest? In Columbus? Cleveland, Cincinnati?
Where are all they Ohio? I mean, Ohio is a
hotbed and Ohio State University is the hotbed of college football.
And I'll put them up against Alabama and LSU with
what they're putting out there now, because that's the level

(40:10):
there at Ohio State is just that much. It's It's
if Alabama went and jumped into the Big Ten, everybody
would say, all the school's Wisconsin and Michigan and pen Sate.
They would all say, how are we gonna compete? Man?
Nick Sabans here in the Big ten, and now he's
gonna be recruiting like crazy. No, you have that, you
have Ohio State in the Big ten. That's that's the
reality of However, you don't want to see it. That's

(40:31):
the reality for the Big ten right now. With that,
although they're big, the beast on the block, you've got
to go try to figure it out. Obviously, Penn States
had some success, Michigan always compared to it. And we
we you and I have chronicled this for what we're
in year seven of our show. I mean, that is
the same thing I love. Roger Goodellen is now just
sitting chilling like he's gonna fall asleep in this big

(40:53):
comfy chair in his in his basement here. Uh note
to this point, the sc EC you've got eighteen picks
between l s U and Alabama. So when we're talking about,
you know, the big kids on the block, I mean,
look at that percentage of the draft man, that is
that is just frightening. And then the at the Ohio

(41:15):
state numbers. And now what you and I will be
chronicling for the rest of the night. Bill Bill O'Brien
has all the power in Houston. He was just down
the screen seemingly cursing somebody out off camera. Wait a minute,
giving to Shawn Watson that long contract extension that means
he's gonna be here. Look, man, now I can't. I

(41:35):
mean they gave tunsil Is twenty two million a year, man,
So I mean he got some craziness going on there.
And now the Patriots were just back on the clock.
But to your point, I mean, that's three teams that
have just dominated this draft and set the standard for
what everybody else is chasing across college football. So when
you ask why your team can't do it, and you

(41:55):
did it beautifully there with the Michigan Wolverines, you just
look and watch the show like now, I mean you're
you're watching it. Every other picks like where's that guy
from Alabama? Well that guy, well he was an l
s U for two years and then he transferred somewhere else.
Why because they had somewhat bigger and stronger than him.
So it's it's really just a ridiculous wealth of wealth

(42:16):
for these teams as you roll through, and for the
the Ohio State, that's a that trifect off the board.
I mean you could recruit on that for years. The
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we're watching picks fly off the board now here as

(42:58):
we get to the close of the third round is
for all the quarterbacks that have heard their name called,
and we're gonna get into a big way. Jordan's Love
and Jalen Hurts in a few minutes on the show.
One name we haven't heard is Jake From. Jake From
has not been selected. Jake From came out after his
junior year at Georgia, the worst of his three years,

(43:19):
and he is still waiting to be chosen at this point.
Clearly no team sees him as anything other than a curiosity.
And I I look back and I go, why did
Jake From leave again? Why? Why did he leave again?
I don't, I don't, I don't. I don't get it.
Nothing happened. It's not like, boy, there's nothing else I
can do here. I gotta go to the NFL. You know,
it's not like there's nothing else I could work on.

(43:41):
From did not have a big year. And I know
we've talked about him for a long time that oh
as good as he was as a freshman, nearly winning
the national championship, he's been on our radar. But I
don't know why he went. I don't know what kind
of advice he got. I'm gonna go out in the
draft now because now he's a knock around guy. Now
he's someone that who knows when he's chosen. You know,
you gotta go in the first couple of rounds. Now

(44:02):
it's you're gonna get to them to the third round.
And Jake From's probably not going to hear his name called.
And I I don't, I don't understand what went into
that decision. I mean I know that look, was it
a disappointing year. Yeah, did he probably you know, not
get the love that he got from the fan base. Sure,
but I at the same but I don't think Georgia
was kicking him out. This is a guy that's won
one thirty five games and three years. I don't know

(44:23):
why he came out, I really don't. It's the curiosity,
right when you start looking at, uh, what what's in
the cupboard for Georgia, Jamie Newman graduate transfer is going
to be the guy. The other is Jacob Eason, Right,
two guys that you're you're looking at, going wow, what
happens here? So just some curiosities in the draft. But

(44:47):
the we've got sad Jake from at this point, they're
gonna go to the couch and he's not even gonna
be sitting there anymore. Yeah, him sitting on the couch
looks like what he's sitting to the couch from far away.
He looks like Chris Pine a little bit like it
was always a Star Trek movie. Is gonna happen now?
Or you know, they're making him. They're putting him in
charge of every franchise that's ever been It's either him
or Pratt. Yeah, that's it you got, Yeah, exactly. I'd

(45:09):
rather see Chris Pratt. I'm not as big a Chrispine
fan as m. Chris pat Chris Pratt is much more
fun and Chris Pine is just kind of I'm gonna
give you a smoldering stare and say something that's kind
of like John Gruten. I mean that that's kind of
what that's kind of what Chris Pine does to me.
Why you drifted into your John Gruden. If they were
making a movie of the young John Gruden's life, then
Chris chris Pine could definitely play John Gruten. Seems like

(45:29):
they have to do that at some point. What we
that we have to figure out why um Sean McVeigh
and Cliff Kingsbury have the same weird grid, Like, what
are they waiting for? Is there an alien gonna land there? No? No, no, no,
the same landscaping. You know what it came to me
last night, what what exactly what Cliff Kingsbury's house looked

(45:51):
like in the famous picture of him, you know, with
all the the manicured law and and the and the
different sections out not with with the mountains of the background. Yeah,
you know what it looked like and I said last night,
it looks like the house where Dustin finds the wrong
set of stairs and winds up in a lab and
Steve has to go rescuing from the demogorgan. You know
what it looks like is like a scene from X

(46:11):
Men where it's just somebody watching TV in their house
and from under the ground outside like a spaceship comes
out and the X Men come out through it and
they go to fight somebody. That's what that looked like.
And he just looks out the window and goes right right, yeah, yeah, yeah,
he's in it. Just a cameo to go wow, and
then that's what That's what it was. But that it's like,
that's what for that landscaping. I had no idea Twitter

(46:33):
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we sit at pick number ninety four right now. Uh,
there will be hundred and six picks overall. We had
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What's happening. It's been a little bit difficult with Drew

(48:04):
and Roger this week because I'm an assignment at the
on Jerry Jones boat. Oh wow, okay, that must be tough. Yeah,
I'm trying not to talk about Drew and Roger. Can
you come tell me how to unmute my phone? I'm
trying to call in a pick. Uh can you? I

(48:25):
don't know how to do. I look, I haven't dialed
the phone since nine six. Have somebody do it for me?
So over here they have six phones going at once
for Jerry to pick what I got? We got them
all on all right, what I'm doing? Wait a minute.

(48:47):
The Lamb kids got two phones. Well I got six.
So that's okay. It's gonna work out all right. Uh
so so far. You look, the first thing I want
to say is this, the draft hasn't looked that weird.
You know what, you know, not knowing what to expect,
here's you know, it could get hacked in. We're gonna
wind up seeing all kinds of craziness. And I kind
of got used to everything really quick. And it's kind
of just been the NFL Draft for the past couple

(49:09):
of nights. Shocking isn't it that they just picked players
and you get it in your and you talk about them,
and yeah, really it's a it's an amazing thing, like
and and and really like it's just a giant zoom meeting.
And you know, like I done this or a conference
called like I've been doing this stuff for years on

(49:29):
like my fantasy baseball drafts. I didn't think it was
gonna be that hard, like like you know, like did
they think that like this was impossible or something like
that in the age of modern technology. And again, Jerry
Jones has six phones. I've witnessed this. I'm on the
boat right now. And so you can communicate in this

(49:53):
day and age. It's an amazing thing. You can like
talk into a computer, you can talk into a phone,
you can have of like you can have carrier bees,
you know, like you know, the Cowboy bees can carry
the message all the way to Roger in New York.
What it can happen? Man, just I tell you. But

(50:13):
Jerry and his team, whether he's picked up phone two,
four or six, Uh, they've done a pretty good job
thus far. I mean you get ceedee. Lamb referenced him
with the extra phone digs and then you get Neville
Gallum or you get his girlfriend wasn't really good with
the phone. Crimson Rose the Dallas drama you envision some problems.

(50:45):
Is a girl there might be an issue. I love
the fact her name is Crimson Rose. She sounds like
a DC super villain, you know, like Wonder Woman is fallowed.
Crimson Rose is going to be villain. Or she might
be working at other establishments. But yet, oh man, I'll
tell you it's she. She dated Trey Young too, before

(51:08):
she dated cd L. Again, we can this. This is
gonna go a very bad place in a hurry. If
I was just trying to give the cowboys some love perspective,
you know, perspective on the whole thing, this will this
will not end well for any of us if we
continue down this path. So then let's go to this

(51:29):
path then on a scale of one to ten, with
one being not at all and tend being incredibly so,
how piste off is Aaron rodgerst oh at least fifty
six Hitle's you know, we will do Hitchhiker's Guide to
the Galaxy and say forty two and a half. Yeah,

(51:53):
this is not a good thing. Like he he's gonna
get back to Green Bay and like he's gonna walk
in and go. You know, Matt, Um, we got some
talking to do, We really do. Especially when Matt Lafleur
after the Jordan's love pick looks giddier than a guy
who who had the head cheerleaders said yes, she'll shall

(52:14):
I go to the problem with you? Right, Like that's
that's how happy Matt Lafleur was about taking Jordan love.
Now there is a big issue here, like Jordan's love play. Um,
you know that's a concern, you know, normal, Um, but
I gotta think that, you know, based on la Fleur
and Brian good Coins reaction. Um, yeah, I mean Aaron's

(52:42):
on a pretty short rope right now. Just drafted him
help Cincinnati. Yeah, I guess this is I mean, it
really is like these things just never play well. It
doesn't matter, It never matter, you know, like you know,
Joe Montana, go get Steve you that didn't go well, Um,

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John Elway, they draft Tommy Maddox, that didn't go well.
Dan Reyes lost his job. Um, you know these things,
these kinds of power plays don't end well for somebody
in the whole mix, right, you know, Daniel Jones cons
drafted Ellies basically counting down the days until his retirement. Right.
It just that's how it goes. And um, you know,

(53:25):
Aaron Rodgerson, Brett Farve. Eventually, the people who drafted you,
they get their way, especially on a team where there's
no owner, right like, yeah, Mark Murphy's there's the president team,
but he's not really the owner of the team. There
isn't a single voice owner. So in this case, the
head coach and the general manager of the team, and

(53:47):
with the Packers have a lot more say about what
happens and if they have the final say, just like
with you know Ted Thompson when you know he took
Rogers and went head to hit with Brett Harve eventually,
and soa McCarthy, this one's not gonna go well, so
it's gonna be an ugly divorce. Look, he's gonna play

(54:09):
the last three. He'll he'll play. I think he'll play
this year and then because it's it's too difficult to
try to move on this year and with what's going on,
the craziness, well the truncated preseason, all of it, plus
Jordan loves not ready to play, so I see yeah, trunky.
You like that word? Huh? You didn't think I could
use words like truncata, did you? Wow? Wow? Have you

(54:29):
been playing scrabble with your with your wife? Hey? I play.
I play words with friends and classic words all the time,
and I win a lot, and I play on the
extremely hard level. So ha, you sided a little bit
like Dustin Hoffman and rain Man. I'm a very I'm
a very. I'm pretty good. I know a lot of words.
I know words. By the way, have you ever looked

(54:53):
at Aaron Rodgers in his face when he's got the
mustache going, and ever looked at that a picture of
Frank Zappa? Yeah, talking, they look alike, all right, the
computer and it's it's good. No, you're right, I have

(55:16):
found Aaron Rodgers is real father. Okay, all right, I'm
looking at Frank Zappa right now. Sure, okay, yeah, okay,
which explained to his whole fascination with music? All right, Sure,
it's totally right there. Sure, I was sitting there in
front of us the whole time. All right. I mean
Frank Zappa has got the big soul patch though. You know,

(55:37):
he's got that that looks really cool. Well, he doesn't
really more because he's dead. But that's a different in
the pictures what I'm saying. In the pictures, yeah, I'm sorry,
he has been for a minute for a while, love, Frank,
you know what I'm saying. It's but in the pictures
I'm looking at because you said, look at the pictures.
So I looked at the pictures, and he's the whole thing,
straight on, it's the whole thing. Yes, he's still the

(55:59):
picture of the Cheek your Booty album, that one. That's awesome. Alright,
So from from Green Bay to Philadelphia in the same
situation with Carson Wentz a couple of years. If he
doesn't arrest, keep getting hurt. I don't I think this
is Jalon hurts at least initially. Okay, this was taken

(56:20):
with the intention of we want to make sure we
have a really good backup quarterback because they've they've always
invested in that and that's that's been one of their things.
And we want a quarterback that we can do some
different things with um. And if it happens to be
that Carson doesn't get a whole lot better, okay, then
we'll allow this to be a competition. But I don't

(56:41):
think that they go in with this as an affirmative
plan of Okay, this is what we're going to do
to get rid of Carson Wentz. Now, I will say this,
Carson Wentz, the reputation is he's not very good at
handling having a backup quarterback who has a presence. Okay,
it wasn't you know, he was friends with Nick Foles,

(57:03):
but I don't think it was comfortable between him and
Nickoles after Foles won the Super Bowl. So this could
get a little bit dicey because of once it's sort
of weird, you know, weird approach to things. But I
don't think that that's what the Eagles are going in
thinking that this is what we're going to do. I
think they're going in saying, Okay, we have an interesting

(57:26):
backup quarterback here who can do some different things that
we can probably use in different packages because of the
running skills, because we don't want Wentz running like that anymore.
And and so, but it's not a distinct point. You
don't do that in the second round. You do that,
you do that in the first round. So well, I
have the one one big question. I know, Jason Smith,

(57:49):
you you and I have been waiting for j zon
Cole on this one? Did Bill Belichick finally pull back
the curtain on organizational brilliance for these twenty years by
letting us see his dog? And it it's really been
the dog. I think I think that that's given up.
It's the whole secret. It's the dog. But the dog
sitting in the chair was pure. It was just it
was genius. It was just and it was just like

(58:12):
whether it was intentional or not. Right the fact that
Belichick when the when they first go to pan there
just doesn't care like, okay, you know what I'm appo,
sing camera or whatever. Let the dog there, you know,
like just whatever to whatever. And the other part that
I love is, you know these guys have all these
elaborate setups, like Bill O'Brien had two giant monitors and

(58:36):
you know the screen over here if you look at
the you know, Belichecks like in the you know, like
he's in the dining room of the kitchen of his
Nantucket house with like two laptops and a cell phone.
But he's just like, Okay, I'm set, this is good. Yeah, yeah,
he's yeah, he's he's on trash eighty from from nineteen. Um, yeah,

(58:58):
you know I would know that it doesn't. He doesn't
care at all. It just doesn't care at all about
the pretense and all the other stuff that goes with
It's like, oyeah, we know who we want. Good thanks
by I'll guarantee you. The dog speaks, and the dog
has been making all the draft picks for at least
ten years. Well, the dog is actually Ernie Adams because

(59:20):
we never actually see Ernie Adams. The dog is Ernie Adams,
So that's all you got it. It is never like
it's like, um, you know, it's kind of a little
thing of Mr Eddon what was the kicking mule like
kicking mules us. It's like the next progression of Mr

(59:42):
edd and Gus the kicking mule, Like now you have
Ernie Adams, the the football savant dog. Because has anybody
ever really seen Ernie Adams? No, I mean, you know
there's been there's been these videos of him, but those
could be computer generated. Definitely. What we just saw the

(01:00:06):
dog is you know, and and what you didn't hear
if when next time we get it, when we hear
Bill walking and go Ernie and the dog like up
the Bears wouldn't you go to oppressor when they get
back to session. What's your dog's name, Ernie? Does that
have a last name and have a middle name. I've

(01:00:31):
just found out that all of these photos of Ernie
Adams are actually a former president, William Henry Harrison, that
have been spliced in. He had a little bit more
of a resemblance to Woodrow Wilson, but that's just me.
He certably doesn't look anything like Frank Zappa. But no

(01:00:53):
circle Again, that's just me. You can follow on Twitter
at Jason cul sixty two. That is at Jason cul
sixty We're talking about and Ernie Adams dog talking dog.
We are listen. I have I have an a point
with Netflix tomorrow. We are selling this as a show

(01:01:14):
Bill Belichick with the talking dog that has helped him
make picks and build a dynasty. Isn't that great? Yeah?
I thought Netflix, nine am tomorrow. If you want to
be in at the meeting, I'll be on a plane tonight. Right,
very awesome. There we go, boom, hey, bring Art's Telly?
Will you no? You're there? I can't have a plane alright, Alright,

(01:01:45):
he's getting out a plane like he's a player's agent
showing up at their house. Thanks a bunch, Jacob, I
guarantee he he loves that idea. Though. Yeah, Belichick has
the dog. Nobody knows the dog talk except for Belichick.
The dog has been making picks and now the TV
show is about him winning but also stopping people from

(01:02:05):
realizing the dog speaks. And there's always one person that
really that knows the dog speaks very thing. There's a crackpot.
So I would say somebody involved with the Jets that
that knows the dog talks, but no one listened to
them and they think they're crazy. And that's then that's
the first season. Well, and if we can't sell it
as a comedy, then it could take a dark twist
of the people that are suspicious of the dog, and

(01:02:27):
we can sell it as a nine or ten PM drama.
What do you think do we you know, Brady open
for twenty years? What do we do at And that
would be I could do your voice of the dog?

(01:02:47):
What's your what's your big claim to fame in your
voice over voice acting career? Well, you know what, I
invented the voice for Ernie Adams, you know, dog going people,
and we would have that's that's pretty I like that

(01:03:10):
lay off the week. But but also the dog can
do an impression of Bill Belichick, so actually the dog
can talk like him. So sometimes it's not Belichick making
the moves, it's his dog. Be sure to catch live
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(01:03:53):
Nearing the end of the third round of the NFL Draft.
The Jets have just traded with the Patriots. I Shock
shock shock. Uh. The Jets get a couple of picks tomorrow,
pick number one nine. The Patriots select tight end Dalton
Keene out of Virginia Tech Blank. You Gronk will get
your replacement here now in the end of the third round. Well,

(01:04:14):
they just back. That was back to back tight ends
for them. Right there doesn't matter. We're gonna get everybody
we need right now. I'm gonna get out of U. C.
L A. And now Dalton Keene gonna get someone from
Division four and then we'll be all set. Uh so
we're four more picks and then the first two days
of the draft for the books will recap the biggest
story in the draft coming up in a few minutes.

(01:04:36):
But you know, normally the only time Fresca ever gets
any publicity is when I mentioned on the show because
that's my Twitter handle, how about a Fresca from Caddy Shock,
And I always get Fresca jokes. People send me pictures
of Fresca and all kind of stuff, and it's fun
because it's one of my favorite lines of Caddy Shack. Well,
today something had look, I'm going, why is diet fresca trending?
Oh my god? Did they find out? What do they

(01:04:57):
fund out? What's wrong with diet Fresca? But had a
good run Smith. It actually plays into this crazy story today.
You saw the story about the President saying he was
kidding yesterday by saying you can inject yourself with cleaner
to get rid of the coronavirus. And and today he
said he was kidding around. It became this whole big
fire storm. And then comedian J. L. Covin, who does

(01:05:19):
a Trump impression and it sounds phenomenal, put this video
out there where he as President Trump, tried to explain
what he really meant to say yesterday, not injecting you know,
cleaners into your into your body. And this is why
diet fresco was trending. I didn't say to drink to
put in a disinfectant. That's not Nobody would say that.

(01:05:41):
That's bad science, and it's something I certainly would never say.
I said, diet fresca, diet fresca, dinesota. Maybe some of
the young people don't know, uh that, I know, my
beautiful oh a n reporter probably too young to know that.
But diet fresca could scare off the virus. Because you
ever noticed swing you have a soda, if you having

(01:06:02):
eye like diet coke, you're having a soda and you
shake it up. Okay, tremendous bubbles like like like an
amazing amount of like bubbles. Believe me, you've never seen
bubble like forget a bubble bath. We're talking exploding soda bubbles.
Notice how there's never a virus in the bubbles because
viruses are very scared of the bubbles. So like that,

(01:06:23):
it's called diet frescas soda. We're thinking about that, But no,
not disinfectant. That would be very dangerous to do. So
I never said that, And what I did say was
actually diet fresca. And that's why I diet fresco was
righting today. Bubbles in the bubble bubbles. I really wanted

(01:06:44):
to have another diet fresca after that because you can
still buy diet fresca. You can still get if you
go to like Pavilions or grocery store like Ralphs whatever,
whatever grocery store. You go to the soda aisle. I
mean there's not many that it's not like it's a
big display like Coker Pepsi. But you go to like
the middle of the aisle and on the bottom where
the dusty twelve packs of drinks are that people don't buy,
like near the Canada Dry stuff, you can find diet

(01:07:06):
I don't know you'll find regular fresca, but you can
find diet fresco. I'll tell you what it's been like,
you guys, got any dusty stuff in the back cycle. No,
everything we have is on the shelf. No, really, this
is stuff that would have given up in shelf space
a while ago. Maybe it's just kind of hanging out
in the back that's where though I see the Okay, alright, great, yeah,
I'll just take that, but I'll make sure to wipe

(01:07:27):
it off before I drink it and spider webs. Maybe
I should change my Twitter handle to how about a
diet Fresca? How about that diet Fresca. It's diet Fresca
making news. Coming up next, we'll get back into the
biggest story of Day two of the NFL Draft, which
could mean a future quarterback change. Fox. Be sure to

(01:07:49):
harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven pm Pacific. The
Jets moved down twenty years twenty five slots, but they
get two picks. They get one and one nine and surprise, surprise.
So far, the Jets are having a really good draft,
at least on paper, which tells you that listen, it's
just not gonna work out and all these guys are
gonna be bad because that's how it goes with the

(01:08:09):
Jet spot so far. I like what everything is doing.
I like with the Jets are doing. They're getting there,
they're filling their holes, they're getting good players, and you
know what. You know what I like. It's not that
it's not the Jets thing, but this is about a
culture thing for many teams. Is that anytime you see
a team take a guy, to take a chance on
a guy because well, he's got talent, but there's a

(01:08:30):
reason he's slipped. He's got first round talent but a
third round grade. Why because his motor isn't the best,
or because he had a couple of off the field issues,
whatever it is. But one thing I've seen this is
this is not just a Jets thing, but other teams
you know that they will not have people on their
boards because a reason like that. One thing I've seen
for all the Jets picks off. I made a great

(01:08:51):
pick tonight, uh and in getting Mims from Baylor, who
was a real big playmaker and look, he was a
number two trending topic on Twitter for a long time
going why is he coming off the board? Why is
no one drafting him? And finally the Jets pulled him
off and it was a huge move for them because
you know, that's a first round type talent. Type kid
they got there is that the Jets are drafting players

(01:09:11):
who want to be there, who have an edge to
them and are motivated. There's nobody they've drafted like Polite
last year, who was out of the league after you know,
they got rid of him after six weeks and he
was barely hanging on with the Seahawks. They're not taking
guys with character issues or motor issues. We want to
build a culture, so we went guys who want to
be here. And look, there's one safety is just as

(01:09:34):
good as another. But we want the guy who's fast,
who has a good motor, who has motivated. That's our
guy because we're building a culture as well. Building a
culture is so important. You can't just take guys and
put them out there and say, well, we got the
best available player right here that all the time best
developed player. Why are the Patriots winning so often? But
number one, we know now because they have a dog
making the picks for building that can speak and that's

(01:09:57):
you know, that's that's a big deal. But the Patriots,
what do they take players that are gonna fit in
with what they want to do. And it's not just sudden, Well,
we're reaching for a guy here in the in the
third round that's a sixth round talent, but we think
he can follow the quote Patriot way. If they need
a cornerback, and there's five possibilities in the third round,
which is the guy that's gonna fit in, that's the

(01:10:18):
guy we take. Now. Maybe of those five cornerbacks available
in the third round, he's the third best guy off
the board, or maybe the fourth best guy, but because
he fits in with what we do, he's our pick
and it works, and it works more often than players said, well,
this guy's a no brainer. He's the best available player.
We gotta take him. He's gonna be great for us.
He's gonna be fantastic. And sometimes that best available player

(01:10:40):
just doesn't work out. So when you're drafting, you gotta
draft for culture. It's gotta be you know, the second thing,
how good is he he's okay? Does he work? What
about culture? Does he fit in? Does he help build something?
And that's a big deal because many teams, whether you
are the Jets or the Lions or the Raiders or
the Browns. Look all the the sorry sack teams in
the NFL that just can't get out of their own

(01:11:01):
way and have a bad image. You got to sell
people that this is not that anymore. This is this
is and this is a new time. Now we are here.
We're building a new culture. We have a new everything
around our team, and this is a team you want
to come to and you see that, and players see it,
and then they there buy in and suddenly those sad
sacked teams are making a leap up and after a

(01:11:22):
year or two, yego, But we don't make fun of
them anymore. Yeah, because they change the culture. It's how
it works well, because the biggest thing is you've got
to bring in a guy and make it known. It's
not a one year right, There's not an exponent expectation,
because what do we see in Cleveland all of this
past decade plus, it's you get about a year, you
get in a year two and you're not moving fast

(01:11:43):
enough or I don't like the way you handle this,
and you're throwing out the door. Whether you're a front
office guy or the head coach, you're not building any continuity.
You're not getting your legs under you. So when you
look at what the Dolphins did with Flores last year,
they give him a five year deal and even though
they traded off a couple of big time component parts,
one of the guys just signed a twenty two million

(01:12:05):
dollar deal because he had Bill O'Brien over a barrel.
But that's a whole other thing, is that you you
traded those guys away, right, you traded away Fitzpatrick. You
got assets, but you still had a team of guys
that played their asses off for him last year and
they were competitive all throughout the season. Yeah, part of
it was fitz magic and whatever that phenomenon is. But

(01:12:28):
DeVante Parker stepped up guys that had to take on
leadership and bigger roles, did like Kenyan Drake went and
had a magnificent year in Arizona and now he's their
feature guy. That's great. But they still played hard and
they established a culture very much like that of the Patriots.
But they made it clear, this is our guy. How

(01:12:49):
many teams do that? Not very many? Right, you have
some good organizations, you know, after two days, you look
at what the Ravens have in terms of their core
and their drafted players, plus what was already on the
roster and you go, wow, they just keep getting it done.
But those are few and far between. Even some of
the more established teams. You're who have been what are

(01:13:09):
we doing? We're questioning what the packers are doing? And
and that's usually an organization where while they don't wow
you in free agency and maybe blow you away with
the name name recognition of guys, they usually are a
stable organization. But right now we're going, well, what the
hell is going on here? So it's just different. You
don't get to that long leash, but you need to

(01:13:31):
at least make the appearance that it is that you
know the you've got to buy in and here's what
we're building versus it's a one and done proposition. Fox
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Lows red Vests everything they're doing to support their communities
when it has been needed the absolute most. Well, yesterday
we had a big controversy when the Packers decided, Hey,
guess what, Aaron Rodgers, We're taking Jordan's love in the
first round. Good luck finding a new team in the year,
because that's exactly what's gonna happen. We are pushing you
out the door tonight. Did we see it again? When

(01:14:14):
the Eagles came around on the clock in the second round,
take a listen. We're in the two thousand twenty NFL Draft.
The Philadelphia Eagles select Jalen Hurts quarterback Homa. Jalen Hurts
goes to the Philadelphia Eagles as they pick in the
second round. And there's a reason why Jalen Hurts at

(01:14:37):
the top of Twitter trending right now, because this is
the same situation that the Eagles are facing that the
Packers put themselves in with taking Jordan's Love. When you
take a quarterback in the first or second round of
the draft, now that's a guy that you want to
see the field. That's not someone that well he can
back up right, you know, that's someone that you want

(01:15:00):
you see the field to be your starter. It's a
little bit more serious and it will happen a little
bit faster in Green Bay because love is a first
round pick Now he's a little bit more of a project.
So this year he's going to sit most likely, and
in eleven months Aaron Rodgers will be looking for a
new team. Because you know how piste off Aaron Rodgers

(01:15:21):
is that they didn't draft him any help, that they
drafted his successor when he's still playing at a high
Pro Bowl, All Pro caliber level. This is exactly what
he saw when he came into the league when the
Packers wanted to move on from Brett Farve. Why did
the Packers draft Aaron Rodgers because they wanted to eventually
move on from far if they were sick of Farv
being bigger than the team. The will I won't I

(01:15:44):
retire every single year? And the Packers, just like the
Bulls of the nineties were seeing from the Last Dance documentary,
they feel the organization is bigger than the player, bigger
that they win championships and players don't. They want to
push Aaron Rodgers out. They knew how this was going
to go over with him. You know, he's pissed. He'll
play this year and then next year is gonna be

(01:16:07):
guess what. Everybody get ready for the Aaron Rodgers Tour
to force because he's gonna he's gonna be allowed to
find his own trade, and the Packers will trade him somewhere.
They're not going to trade him to New England, so
just stop. That's not happening. They will trade him to
an acceptable destination where Aaron Rodgers can play out the
last three or four years of his career. This is
more going to be a Peyton Manning situation where he

(01:16:29):
looked for the Broncos with a three or four year
window than Brady with the Bucksh's looking for just a
couple of years. So that's happening. I mean, I didn't
think about it until last night, but after last night,
Rogers was going to spend the rest of his career
after this year with a different team. The same thing
is going to happen now for Carson Wentz. Wentz has

(01:16:49):
a little bit more to play with because the Eagles
can't get out of his contract until after next year.
He paid him a lot of money game of five year,
hundred thirty seven million dollar extension, but they can get
out of it after next year. And Wentz, as good
as he has been at times, look when the year
he got hurt, he was playing at an m v
P caliber level, His relationship and and just his overall

(01:17:12):
standing with the Eagles has never been the way it
should be for a franchise quarterback. The team played better
under Nick Foles than Carson Wentz. Everybody saw it. There
were the stories a couple of years ago that Wentz
didn't have a lot of friends in the locker. We
piste off a lot of people. Wentz answered those by saying, well,
maybe I could have been a little bit different my
first couple of years in the league. He also gets

(01:17:32):
hurt a lot. This is a pick where the Eagles
can say, you know what, in two years, we can
move on from him. We can move on if he's
still a little weird as far as you know, being
not being an Eagle and we're kind of still in
arms length with him, or he's getting hurt, or he
doesn't develop into a great quarterback, well guess what, we'll
develop Jalen Hurts for the next couple of years and

(01:17:53):
he can be our guy. We can get out of it.
And Carson Wentz with the open market as a free
agent and wondering what kind of a test level they're
gonna garner with him, because that's what happens when you
take guys this early. All right, It's gonna be a
little bit longer for Hurts to get on the field
unless Wentz gets hurt and then suddenly Hurts comes out.
And I'm saying hurt every four seconds because we're talking
about hurt and hurts and injuries and hurt nerds. But

(01:18:16):
unless that happens, you have a couple of years for that.
Rogers will happen sooner. But once that's the same thing,
it's just gonna happen a year or so later. Yeah,
you look at the contracts, I mean, Rogers, there's the
out after as well, So I mean there's the potential
of the changing of the guard, assuming that Jordan's love develops,
and you know, there's a little bit of a question

(01:18:37):
of that, right. The accuracy touchdown to interception ratio. A
lot of the stuff we talked about yesterday. Find the
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(01:19:00):
it with Aaron Rodgers. It's the inevitability of you're gonna
be thirty seven years old, so it's time to start
looking that way. And there's just the fork in the road, right,
do you do you add help? They added that big
tight end and the end of the third you know, uh,
I say that tongue in cheek uh, and a running back.

(01:19:20):
So Aaron Jones fans are flipping off Matt Lafleur as well.
But so you've got still got some questions how you're
addressing the version of this squad but also keeping yourself insured, right,
so you can understand the insurance plus project side of
it of if he gets hurt Rogers and and you've

(01:19:43):
got to go to a backup. While the last time
that happened significantly uh, they were significantly damaged and that
was the end of their season after week six. So
we we look at the eagle side of thing. Wentz
has heard a bunch whatever it is in the locker
room says he could have been better about how much
of that is, you know, just guys talking out of
school and maybe he's not the most communicative or what

(01:20:05):
there's you know, minor problems that got exacerbated particularly once
Nick Foles came in and one. But he's a guy
that I'd like to see them with a full compliment
of receivers that aren't wide receiver four or five and
six on the field like you had a year ago. Uh,
So you can only blame him so much. Yes, his
jobs to elevate, but they had issues on the line
and certainly in their receiving corps. So curious what it

(01:20:28):
is here, but it does open the door and Jalen
Hurts another guy with you know, a little bit of
a project tag with a lot of the skills you like,
But what does it translate to? Certainly an offense that
at least on paper the way they draw it up,
it would fit beautifully his skill set. But at the
same time, it's it's the maturation process and being ready,

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uh to be stepping in because Carson Wentz and finish
in a sixteen game season. I think we've we all
understand that at this point. Now it's just a function
of getting him repped, ready to play. And does Carson
Wentz ever get his job back? About that take? Well, yeah,
the thing is that they're a little bit different in style,

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so that that's one thing that tells you, all right,
we're not just gonna get a guy to back up
and come in where it's got to be seamless, because
he wants somebody who can come in and play our side. No,
Jalen Hurts brings his own unique skill set to the game,
you know, being young and athletic, could be able to
throw the football, make plays and make plays with his
legs and no one to make those decisions. Look, nobody
impressed me more than Jalen Hurts from where the last

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time I saw him play football until I saw him
play this year with Oklahoma because quite honestly, he didn't
make enough plays with Alabama. He didn't make enough. It
was you know, look he got to the national title
game as a freshman and it was wow, look at
these freshman quarterbacks in the National Title Game and Jalen
Hurts was Okay, it was Jalen Hurts ever next level. No,
he was very worried about his brand when he was
a freshman. You're his dad would talk a lot about

(01:21:57):
the Jalen Hurts brand, and I'm like, yeah, I think
he needs be a little bit better before this happens.
Couldn't beat out to a transferred and okay, let's see
what happens now, and he goes to the perfect offense
for him, and he shows I can make all kinds
of plays, and there is nobody who impressed me more
with that kind of jump I expect. I thought he'd
wind up going in the first round. I thought somebody

(01:22:18):
would make that aggressive leap into the first round to
make sure they got him. A little surprised he was
still sitting there in the middle of the second round.
I thought Patriots would go after him and he'd be
a perfect guy and fit for what Belichick wants to do.
But here's the Eagles, and you know, this is not
just hey, we're gonna get a guy and put him
on the field like Taysom Hill. You know, it's it's

(01:22:40):
not going to be that type of situation. This is
all about Wentz and the comfort level that the Eagles
have with him. And it's hard to put it into
words because it's a lot of tangentle things that are
that you read into relationships that they're having. And also
it's about his warman's on the field, because let's face it,

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you know, he's not been one of the top top
quarterbacks in the NFL. He was certainly on that path.
Then he got hurt, the Eagles won the Super Bowl,
and since then it's been Okay, Carson, get us back there,
and Carson Wentz can't get us back there. Okay, well,
let let's see where we go from here. But overall,
the fit with with him and the Eagles has not

(01:23:21):
been what you'd expect. You know, I said a lot
for Noah synder Garden the Mets. Right, Clearly, synder guards
at odds with the Mets over things, and it's not
anything that Carson Wentz publicly is criticizing the Eagles for.
But still you can tell the relationship that he has
with the team is not quite where you think it
would be for for a star pitcher, and the same
thing is there for Wentz and the Eagles. You could

(01:23:43):
just tell it's a little weird and there's no reason
why they should be playing better with when Nick Foles
was there, but they were, and Carson Wentz should be
at this point progressing a little bit more. Right now,
he's a periphery top fifteen ish quarterback in the NFL.
That's about where he is, and the Eagles at some

(01:24:03):
point have to think is it worth it? Are we
really going to continue to develop him? Is he really
going to continue to get better? Or is it time
for us to say. You know what Jalen hurts, is
that that that's what we want in the NFL. This
is where the NFL is going, that's what we're gonna have.
This is who we're gonna go get. So it's all
there for them. When two years from now comes up,

(01:24:23):
they can more easily make that decision and they're not
stuck because if they want to move away from Carson Wentz,
who knows, right, Because as we've seen with certain teams
in the NFL, they may need to get a quarterback,
but the year they need to get one, there may
not be guys there. So let's get one when we
like the guy now, and we like him now. He
can sit for a year or two and we'll figure

(01:24:44):
it out and we'll you know, he'll learn and learn
the offense and all kinds of things like that. But
why wait until, okay, now we need a quarterback when
maybe that crop isn't good. Let's go get a guy now.
And that's the Eagles did. Well, you have your twenty
nineteen Eagles really quickly. Zach Ertz ad eight cat is
Dallas Goddard fifty eight catches, Miles Sanders fifty catches, your
first wide receiver clocks in at Alshon, Jeffrey played in

(01:25:07):
ten games Twitter at how about a Fresca? Mike gets
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(01:25:29):
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(01:25:50):
Geico Studios. All three first rounds of the drafts are
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be joining us now on the hotline. He is on
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Los Angeles Dodgers fan that I know he is John Hanson,

(01:26:11):
majority owner, publisher, Fantasy points dot com, morning host and
serious XM fantasy analysts on Direct TV's Fantasy's Own and
worked with John for a long time. It's got a
big new announcement coming up, so we're gonna talk a
little football and talk about it. What's happening? Gurup? Oh,
Jason Smith, it's fantastic to hear your voice. And Mike,
what's up. I haven't talked to you in about nineteen years.

(01:26:32):
I believe you've been a minute hung out. Well, you
know what I got out of the full time Fantasy run.
So the conferences were no longer in Vegas, so they became,
you know, a little less exciting. I guess, I don't know, right, Well,
I don't know. And then they team me up with Smith,
so you know, as you know how that goes. Yeah,
that's awesome, that's awesome. Well, it's a great great to

(01:26:54):
hang out with you guys tonight. Yeah, I don't know.
You got you guys? Do do you guys hanging out?
Like going to going to bars in Vegas all the
time together? Like, what was the deal it? Well, Um, Mike,
you worked at Yahoo? Correct? Correct? Correct? And Um, I
also worked at Yahoo. I didn't really work there. I
kind of had like a content deal with them for
fantasy stuff. You know. Brandon Funston, my boy, UM, way

(01:27:16):
back when he was at ESPN. I started writing columns
about fantasy football, believing or not at ESPN in X
and that is how I met Brandon. He went over
to Yahoo, and then I met Mike and the rest
of history. Wow, look at that small world, that fantasy world.
A small world. I'll tell you, well it is well.
I mean a lot of us long and long in
the game, right John. I mean that's the guys trying

(01:27:38):
to figure out how to innovate it and keep moving,
which is what you're doing now. Yeah. And then you
wrote a little book about fantasy sports like twenty years ago, right,
maybe seventeen years ago, and you were kind of enough
to include me in the little book. No, that was it.
We had the profiles, you sent me the best head
shot you had, uh, and we we put that in
and we ran with Yeah, we we and a publisher

(01:28:00):
out of Indianapolis that wanted to do a you know,
idiot's guide kind of alternate universe. So you were kind
enough to give me a bunch of words and some rankings,
and uh, it's sold out its printings. So we did
something right. There you go. And I think that head
shot I supplied to you, by the way, was from nine.
There you go. So I still owe you some beers

(01:28:21):
for that. So we'll figure out when we can collaborate
on on mashing those. Yeah. Alright, alright, Greight. Now the
most important thing I'm gonna ask you tonight, this is
a very big deal. Where do you have Bill Belichick's
dog in your rankings at this point after tonight? I
gotta think that's your first dog off the board as
Belichick's dog. Well, actually, um, I'm a cat guy in general,

(01:28:43):
so I have cat rankings, but that dog was so awesome.
That dog is now seven in my cat rankings. Okay,
now that's that's really that's power. It's seven in the
Cat rankings. Oh boy, Hey, so what what do you
make of the draft to night? We saw a lot
of wide receivers go year and look, I'm a big fan.
I love Lavisca channel going to Jacksonville. He's such a

(01:29:05):
big playmaker. You know. Look, he had a little bit
of injury problems, but the guy's explosive. He's a big
yat guy. I mean, that's the guy. But I wanted
the Jets to get him. But I think Jaguars got
a hell of a player getting him. Yeah. Our guy,
um Greg Cosell, who's doing a lot of work for
the brand new website. Absolutely and he's been doing this
for forty years over at NFL Films. Absolutely love Chanel.

(01:29:26):
I think he's a little polarizing, but um, yeah, it's
a great class. It's unbelievable. But I gotta tell you,
you know, I love Jerry Judy. I had him one.
I get it with all these other guys at the top,
like Ceedee Lamb and Henry Ruggs. I was a big
reagor guy. By the way, the Eagles did, I'm told
try to move up to get Ceedee Lamb, and uh,

(01:29:48):
it just didn't happen. So they went ahead and got Regor.
But my guy in this class at the wide receiver position,
and it's very important for you guys out there on
the West coast, my man Michael pitt Men at a
USC this This dude is awesome. He's a great guy.
I've actually had a chance to, you know, sit down
with him a couple of times, and what a great

(01:30:08):
spot for the wide receiver. Poor Colts and they're they're
all in on fill this year. And uh, Michael Pittman
just drafted tonight. But I'll tell you what. I'll rank
him over several players drafted last night in round number one.
So he's probably my favorite pick thus far at the
wide receiver position. Well, and then you have infinite sadness

(01:30:29):
at the running back position there in Indianapolis because we
always love Marlon Mack and well, now Jonathan Taylor comes
in and takes his job. Yeah, you know that that
was the thing. Uh, really, this this draft in terms
of uh, okay, this guy gets picked now that crushes
this guy. So you've got Clyde Edwards a Laire destroying

(01:30:49):
Damien Williams. You got DeAndre Swift destroying carry On Johnson.
You've got Cam Akers destroying Darryl Henderson. You have potentially j. K.
Dobbins at least interrupting Mark Ingram and of course Zack
Moss in Buffalo kind of hurts Devin Singletary. So I
think overall was a pretty good fantasy day, but we

(01:31:10):
have to be patient with it and understand that, you know,
we can't have it all. It's not like the old days. Man,
Remember you know, fifteen years ago everything kind of lined
up well, Like this team needed to running back and
they get a running back. Now there's so many dudes
on the field now, we just have to accept it
and live with it. Um. So, there were some winners
here with the rookie class, but for every every rookie drafted,
essentially at running back, almost there was a big loser

(01:31:32):
in terms of the the incumbents on those teams. And
which is the quarterback you like the most right now?
Looking forward with that value on him? Is it Burrow?
Is it Herbert? Which one you like? Oh? No, I
love I love Burrow. I threw out to Tom Brady
camp early on. I know a lot of people see
uh Tony Romo. I just feel like the way he
carries himself, his movement and poise in the pocket. You know,

(01:31:53):
I try to rank these quarterbacks in my brain. I've
been doing this for twenty five years in terms of okay,
where does he rank? In terms of like how good
I feel about him entering the NFL? And I gotta
tell you, as I really went back and I looked
and I thought hard about it. I think Burrow is
at worst three on the list, and he maybe two

(01:32:15):
in terms of I feel amazing about this guy. And
number one, of course will be Andrew Luck obviously out
of the league, but he was such a slam dug.
But I think Burrow is absolutely in that conversation. He
may not have a gun, but every single thing else
is fantastic. The poise, the subtle movement in the pocket.
He's got second reaction ability. That's where this league is going.

(01:32:37):
But more than anything else, it's the accuracy. That precise
ball location is uncanny. Fox Sports Tradio Jason Spitz Show
with Mike Carman from The Guy Studios on the Hotline
with us. He is the majority owner publisher Fantasy Points
dot Com. You know him as the Fantasy Guru, Direct TV,
Fantasy Joe Zone Channel, Sirius XM Fantasy. He's John answered

(01:33:00):
at Fantasy Underscore Guru on Twitter. Jason and I had
the luxury of being on air after the first round
come finished up yesterday and we got to talk a
lot about Aaron Rodgers and Jordan's love. What was your
initial gut reaction to that move by the Green Guy
Packers well, look, I mean a lot of people are
complaining about the pick in terms of protecting Aaron. My

(01:33:23):
question is, were then the same people complaining about drafting
Aaron Rodgers in two thousand and five supporting farm That's
what I want to know, guys. Yeah. I also brought
up the fact that when for Rogers got hurt in
twenty seventeen, Uh, you had guys that had no business
being out of practice field, let alone trying to quarterback

(01:33:45):
their team. So perhaps there was also the calculated maybe
this guy be better than what other backups we've been Uh.
And the dregs we've been working with these last couple
of years. Well, you know, it's funny you say that, actually,
because one of those dregs is a kid who was
an undrafted for Agan D three kid, Joe Callahan. And Uh,
I don't know if you remember this, Jason. They probably

(01:34:06):
mentioned it a couple of times. Actually coach that kid
in the Little league. My son was his first receiver
at tight end. But what's interesting about that is I'm
friends with his parents, obviously, so I ran into his mom,
you know, a couple of years ago, and I said, oh,
you know, how's Joe doing how was his experience in
Green Bay? And he said, oh wow, Aaron was great.

(01:34:27):
He really took him under his wing. He treated him
like a little brother. And I'm like, okay, that's that's
good news. And then the Jordan's love move comes down.
I'm like, Okay, is the same thing going to happen?
Probably not an undrafted D three kid who's like the
ultimate underdog. Yeah, sure, Aaron's gonna be nice to that guy.
We'll say if he's nice to Jordan's love and number

(01:34:48):
one pick. But I do love Jordan loves talent. I mean,
he's got a lot of ability, um, natural throw over
the football, very good arm, he's athletic. He is a
project here, so you I think he'll have to sit
for no more than two years obviously, but he could
sit the full two. But then we'll see. Because Aaron
Aaron Rodgers, he may be. He may be on the

(01:35:09):
move in a couple of years. Grew tell you got
a big thing going on right now. You check him
out on Twitter as well at Fantasy Underscore Guru. You
got new fantasy football content website, gambling thing going on.
Tell us about it. Yeah, you mentioned the website. Now
I founded another website five years ago that that I sold,
but I kind of moving on right dot com. And

(01:35:32):
you know, I'm kind of like Tom Brady a little bit.
Not that I'm comparing myself that Brady's got much better hair,
but UM, it's like, you know, I'm re energized because
I've moved on here after twenty plus years. So yeah,
I've started this new website. I've you know, worked with
a couple of young rising stars in the industry. Graham
Barfield was the managing editor actually at NFL dot com.

(01:35:53):
He worked for me, he got the job and I
kind of lured him away. Another guy named Scott Barrett
who was big at Football Focus. I mentioned Greg Cosell
a couple of the other guys I work with. So
we launched this brand new website and um, you know,
thanks to the coronavirus, UM, we're putting number one. I
have a beard which I've ever had before and it's ugly.

(01:36:13):
But more importantly, thanks to the virus and all that,
we rolled this out as a premium site and we're
it's all free, so you just you can head on
over there and um sign up for a free account.
So UM, I appreciate you having me on here to
promote it because Greg Cosell, as I mentioned, works with
us and we put out a Hunter page draft guide
and he's really the best. I've been doing this for

(01:36:35):
twenty five years and no one can break it down
like him. So if anyone is interested in reading up
on some of their players drafted or yet to be drafted,
they could head there, create a free account and download
it and you're golden. You know. I like what you know. Look,
you put it up on YouTube with what it's all about.
You'll check out John Hansen on Twitter at Fantasy Underscore group.
His pin tweet is about Fantasy Points dot com. It

(01:36:57):
looks like you're in Michael Scott's office from the off
this in talking about like this background, I was expecting
the World's Best Boss mug to come up at some
point during during you're talking about it. Yeah, so one
of you guys think of the name by the way,
you know, it's it's it's an interesting name, and that
it's it's like a very prevalent term. And it's not
easy to come up with a new website or brand

(01:37:17):
name here in but um, you know, we kind of
stumbled across this and I kind of like it. It's like,
you know, what what what's that? Did you lose last week?
You didn't get enough fantasy points. You should have went
to fantasy points dot com And so I kind of
like it. No, I like, well, my favorite would be
I love the Jets, but I think fantasy points dot
Com works really well. Yeah. It kind of multiple meanings exactly, exactly, exactly. Yeah,

(01:37:43):
I'm one of those are so obvious is right there
in front of your face, and you know, uh, we
we snatched it up and we're gonna roll with this.
And then you know, this is kind of like my
retirement because you know, the average age I brought all
these guys in his partners and the average age of
everyone but me, Um, I'm fifty one. I've been doing
this for a long as time. Uh, the average age

(01:38:04):
is like thirty. So this website is gonna be around
for decades long after I retire. Oh yeah, but yeah,
but you found it, so you're gonna always get You're
gonna be like the guy from Facebook that's no longer
with Facebook but gets that money every year correct them
Monde exactly, Yeah, lifetime revenue streams and by the way,
Smith I got myself on invited to Joe Callahan's birthday.

(01:38:26):
Oh wow, that happens that? Do you know what? We
gotta call Wisconsin find out why we're calling again. John
Hanson at Fantasy Underscore Grew. The website is Fantasy Points
dot com. He's a f s W A Hall of Famer,
Hall of Famer in our book as well. Grew as
always man. Thanks a much. Look forward to talk to
you during the season. It'll be awesome. Oh yeah, it
was great to catch up with you guys. Have a

(01:38:47):
great night. You good job. We'll talk to you. Great
stuff from Grew right there. You know, I've worked them
for three years at uh direct TV's Fantasy z own channel,
and and he was, you know, he was always a
lot of fun. And I'll tell you that. The true
story is that when ever, when the cameras were off
and we had a couple of minutes, which was never
more than like two minutes because of the full action
that was always going on all the time, we would
talk about the Dodgers because he is the biggest Dodgers

(01:39:10):
fan in the world. But he lives in New York
and you know, me and l A's like, what's going
on out there. But that was a big series. That
was this that, and we would talk Dodgers, Dodgers, Dodgers,
the pop saying okay, here we go, here we go.
All right, well you know what I like? Here is
what Derek Carr just did. Now. But it was like Dodgers, Dodgers, Dodgers, Dodgers,
and then here we are talking about something with fantasy.
Was kind of fun. Dodgers, Dodgers, Dodgers, and Jets, Jets, Jets,

(01:39:31):
That's all it is. I I think I love the Jets.
Let me, does someone have I love the Jets? Let
me look at me. I'll look it up. How about
we love the Jets. You know, I like the person
who put on I saw this. Uh it kind of
went viral a bit. The other day someone put on Twitter,
I'm missing I'm missing sports so much. I went to
the airport today to boo the Jets and it was good.

(01:39:51):
Like someone standing where you can see a bunch of
airplanes and was just booing at the cooper surprised you
haven't cracked and going to that angle. No, I know,
by the way, we can get I love the Jets.
Dot net dot org, dot us dot info. Okay, all right,
I like dot you, I love Jets dot life. I

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lived that Jets life twitter at how about a Fresca
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(01:40:37):
important time. Coming up next, One thing from tonight's draft
I absolutely loved and one thing that was the Bears.
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doing to support their communities. So with the first three
rounds of the NFL Draft in the books, one big
thing I liked from tonight and one thing well, that's
the Bears. Uh. The first thing I liked was Indianapolis

(01:41:23):
deciding we're gonna go get Philip Rivers weapons in the
beginning of the second round, they go get a wide receiver,
which was a great pick, taking Michael Pittman. They come
back a few picks later for Jonathan Taylor. And this
is what you do when you have a quarterback you're
expecting things from you give him help. And whether it's
Philip Rivers for this year or thinking well maybe this

(01:41:44):
is Lord Andrew Luck out of retirement for this is awesome.
I love this move. I love what the Colts did.
And on the other side of things, Mike Carmen, we
have your Bears. We now have ten tight ends on
their roster. Not an exaggeration, and I'm not saying they
have like ten, No, they now have ten tight ends.
After tonight, col Comet comes out of Notre Dame. You

(01:42:06):
have Ben Bronicker, Darren Clark, to Metriz Harris, JP Holtz,
Jesper Horset, Dax Raymond, Eric Sobert, Adam Sheheen two thousand,
seventeen second round pick the thought that's it. And then
Jimmy Graham, who they signed to a two year deal.
He's gonna make nine million dollars this year. You spend
nine million dollars on a tight end, uh, and then

(01:42:26):
draft another guy to go with him. So we're gonna
run six tight end sets and that's all Trabiski and
Foals have to work with. Now, don't go get one
of those speedsters, those big white outs. Nah, let's add
another tight end. Come on. The quickest way to get
fired is to show someone that you don't know what
you're doing. And regardless of whether or not they have

(01:42:48):
a plan, ten tight ends when you are trying to
build a team that can rise in the NFC North.
I mean, you had eight kickers come in last year.
Ten tight ends when you have positions of need. There's
no faster way for Ryan Pace slash Matt Nagge get
fired than to do this to show hey, because nobody
has confidence in them right now, Oh they know what

(01:43:09):
they're doing. No one can look No one looks at them,
No fans says, oh yeah, these guys know what they're doing.
They're going ten tight ends. Whatever, I'm not even gonna
watch the games this year. Yeah, no, it's it's really
a curiosity as to how this team is being constructed.
Still needs some defensive health, needs some help on the
old line. And oh yeah, did I imagine they needed
a wide receiver to go with Allen Robinson? Yeah? Yeah, no, No,

(01:43:31):
that's okay. We had another tight ends, So it's fine. Twitter,
And how about a fresco Mike gets swollen? Don the
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(01:43:55):
Jason Smith Show with my best friend Mike Harmon. Oh oh,
you did it. First three rounds of the NFL Draft
in the books, and the last couple of days is
felt like a regular couple of days in sports. Normally
everything stops for the first two days of the NFL drafting.
You know, Day three not so much. It's really players

(01:44:17):
you haven't heard of. But maybe once in a while
you get a trade. You know, you get the fourth
round where a player who maybe a team is looking
to move on from it's owed a lot of money.
Hey we'll make this move, and you know, you get
some kind of minor headlines there on the weekends. But
these last couple of days have felt like real days
in sports. And it's not been weird. It's not been

(01:44:39):
a situation of boy, I can't believe all the unexpectedness
of it. I mean, the the one big thing that
we've never seen before that we got to see is that,
you know, NFL coaches and gms, you know, live a
lot like us. They have unfinished rooms in their houses.
They have tables from ninety five, Bill Belichick. Uh, they
look like your dad who sits in the breakfast nook

(01:45:03):
which is right next to the sliding glass door, so
they can head right out to the garage and grab
a beer and come back in and sit down. Bruce
arians Yeah, It's it's like when what is it entertainment weekly?
What is the magazine that does the porce? Says stars,
they're just like us, you know, and take out the
trash and it's here's a picture of Andrew Garfield taking
out the trash. It is Manhattan beach condo, and you know,

(01:45:24):
they go to the park and it's owen. Here is
Patricia Arquette with her young kid at the park getting
an ice cream from an ice cream vendor. You know,
stars are just like us. It's like gms and head coaches,
they're just like us. They sit with a computer in
a room that doesn't have any decoration in it, or
their kids come in and they you know, interrupt everybody.
I mean, it's it's that. That's kind of what I
felt the last couple of days were like. That's the
one thing is that we replaced the image of the

(01:45:49):
players hugging, walking up, taking a picture with a commissioner
with oh boy, look at what Joe Douglas's draft house
looks like. Look look at what Bill Belichicks looks like.
And honestly, that's been more fun because we're still getting
the emotion of the players as they're drafted a little
bit on tape delay or on delay, because sometimes you

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see a player right after they're selected, but it's got
to catch up. So when you're going there's two a
tackle blo with the just taken by the Dolphins and
it's like ten seconds before and so his family is
just sitting there looking like boys, not real happy to
be a dolphin. But we still get we still get
the celebration and and it's a great So it's a
great look into it's a it's a celebration. It should

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be it's you and your family because they're the ones
that have worked hardest till get you where where they are.
And whether it's you, could be your mom and dad,
it could be an aunt and uncle, you know, whoever
you're sharing that moment with, and we still get that.
So if we're replacing just the walking up and taking
the picture from a fan stands point, obviously, I'm sure
the players would like to go up and take a
picture with a commissioner and get that, but from the

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draft standpoint, because the draft is a television show first
and foremost. So when something is a television show that's
about the people watching, if you are replacing that with
what we've got in the past couple of days, I
I gotta say I kind of like what I saw.
It's worked out pretty nicely thus far. Yesterday one of
the key components was the dit cababble head uh for

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Commissioner Goodell. We like the laid back approach that he
had as the the night went on. Tonight where he
was he was about ready to fall out. I think
if he had to announce another ten picks, he might
have been laying on the floor drooling like he was
Hasselhoff trying to eat that cheeseburger all those years ago.
But you know we had that, you had the emotion

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they did the uh coming back from break. You got
to see the fake hugs, right here's the montage of
virtual hugs that he had with all the draft Picks
family members. I mean, there's gonna be about a ten
minute video. I think that will be the super cut
of all the mom's, strong arming girlfriends, Auntie's and whoever's
trying to get into the frame of the TV shot

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after their their son was picked. So that's been pretty
good some of them. It's some really good at Heisman,
stiff arm kind of motion like they were watching old
seventies running backs getting after it. Look mom, mom was
checking out the Walter Payton tape. I don't know what
else to tell you, but all the thrilling moments, and
you know it's flowed seamlessly. We haven't had any technological glitches.

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Uh from within the comfort of your own home. You've
been able to boo or cheer or mock whatever is
going on in social media brings us all together while
we're social distancing here, so it's it's made for that
communal event. We talked about television ratings a little earlier
in the program, and I can't wait to see day three.
There's still a couple of big names on the board,

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Like you said, some of the veterans that will be
on the move. Uh, fall out from all of this
fun and excitement, but it was good to have it
here because I should have been all weekend. That would
have been obviously with you tonight, but should have been
enjoying my White Sox visiting the Angels this weekend. So uh,
this took my mind off at a little bit as
we've had some live sporting of to talk about Twitter

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at how about a Fresca Mike hat Swollen on the
Jason Smith Show with my best friend Mike Harman. Now
speaking of quarterbacks. With the draft now completed for the
first two days, the big headline in the past hour
or two comes to us not from a draft pick
from tonight, but from last night, as Jordan's love who
was the Packers first round pick in the draft, told

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ESPN that he and Aaron Rodgers had a good first
interaction after Jordan's Love gets picked in the first round.
This guy's a project at quarterback, but has a lot
of talent. Uh. Certainly, Aaron Rodgers days are now numbered
in Green Bay. All of us were wondering, Hey, what's
the first reaction gonna be from Aaron Rodgers and loves
that it was okay. Quote, I was able to talk

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with him earlier, you know, really good guy. He was
just congratulating me, and I was just letting him know
I was excited to be able to work with him.
A source saying that Rodgers initiated the conversation. Now, this
is where things are gonna be similar to Brady and
not similar and similar to Peyton Manning and not similar
to Brady. All Right, this now, there's no doubt in

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my mind a year from now, Aaron Rodgers is gonna
be looking for a new place to play. This draft
pick of Jordan's Love has put a has put a
finite ending on Aaron Rodgers career with the Packers. You
never thought before yesterday he was possibly gonna play someplace else.
Now I'm positive he's gonna play the last three or
four years of his career with a different team. He
doesn't want to play the forty five like Brady, he

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wants to play one. It's gonna be too difficult to
find that team this year with everything going on, the
crazy year coming in, Jordan's Love is not gonna play.
He's gonna sit because that's what Rodgers did when he
first came in under Bred Farve. But the reason the
Packers took Rogers is because they wanted to eventually push
Farve out, and they did same thing now with Aaron Rodgers.

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Farv was doing the whole I should retire, maybe I won't,
Maybe I'll stay, maybe I won't. They got sick of
his act, and they said, the organization is bigger than
the player. Same thing now because Aaron Rodgers pisted him
off the ask couple of years with his attitude, with
his being more important than the team, having a higher
profile than the team, changing plays, upsetting coaches, teammates not
really getting him. You've heard all the stories. They're done

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with Aaron Rodgers act. So now they drafted Jordan's Love
to come in and take over a quarterback. That's gonna
happen in a year because you draft a guy in
the first round, he's got to play. You didn't draft
a guy in the first round to say, Okay, you're
gonna sit and maybe you get on the field, and
if you don't, it's awesome for us. No first round
quarterbacks are drafted to go play. So that is happening.

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It's going to be at Green Bay has told Aaron Rodgers,
you are not part of our future. Jordan's love is
our future. He's not gonna sit for three or four
years and his entire rookie contract, that's not They're gonna
want to see him on the field. So for three
or four years they can say, hey, we can load
up around him because we're not paying him right now.
So that's how it goes in the NFL. Now, this

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is not gonna be six and then something. You're gonna
gi him a lot of money when when he gets
to year four, year five, Aaron Rodgers will be out
of Green Bay in a year. It's gonna be a
big story that we're gonna be talking about all year long,
and once the end of the year comes, we will
get Aaron Rodgers wanting out and the Packers allowing him
to talk trade with another team, figuring out a trade,

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and they will pull the trigger with the right team,
not the Patriots, and not gonna suddenly go here you go, Belichick,
you want to keep your dynasty going, Here's Aaron Rodgers.
But he'll be traded. It won't be the Brady's not
saying anything about the Patriots, Patriots not saying anything about Brady.
It will be a little bit more sniping. It will
be a little bit more of Rogers letting people know

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how the Packers are treating him, and and so we'll
get a little bit more information than we did with
Brady and the Patriots. But it's gonna be Aaron Rodgers
a year from now or when free agency hits, and
it's gonna be just like Peyton Manning with the Broncos,
except it's an Aaron Rodgers who's healthier, same age, with
a three or four year window of saying, I can
go help the team win a championship. I mean that's

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gonna happen. Now. Look, obviously he's gonna have a great
conversation with Jordan's love. He's not gonna be a jerk
he's worried about what's my next job? Right? What's what's
the old adage? You worry about the job you have,
but you do good in your job so you can
get the next job because you want people to see
you in a positive flight. He's not gonna do anything
that's gonna hurt the team. There's no way he's gonna

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do that. He's gonna be nothing but nice to Jordan's love,
and everything's gonna be okay with the teammate perspective, and
then he's gonna want out and say that's it now.
After that, the gloves are off and Rodgers will say
whatever the hell he wants to, but it will be
more of He's gonna be a good teammate. But you
will hear a little bit more stories than we did
with Brady. But in the end, it's gonna be a
lot of sources say, sources say, sources say, and then

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Rogers will find his trade and then they'll say, you
know what gets my goat, I'll tell you. I'll tell
you everything happened with me in the Green Bay Packers.
That's how the next few months, the next eleven months
are gonna go. Well, you know, he has the out
after one season. This year is gonna be I don't
call it a wash in terms of quarterback development because
guys are gonna be able to come along. But Jordan's
Love is not anywhere close to a finished product. So

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this could run for two years. And then when you
have that out and these quarterbacks that were drafted last
year or this year had the opportunity to flame out,
and some of these other guys go off to greener pastures.
Aaron Rodgers will be thirty nine years old, and we'll
have several places that think they can coax an extra
year two or three out of him. It makes for

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an interesting dynamic, uh, because you've got the fork in
the road where you had to look long term and
maybe you love Jordan's Love. I mean right, La Fleur
was giddy like the cadue eate the Canary after selecting
him last night, and so he's got the guy he wants.
And I'll never fall to team for picking that guy. Right.

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I's the only way I've been able to live with
myself defending Ryan Pace and the organization that is the
Chicago Bears in the same division is okay. They went
and they got Mitchell Drabinsky and decided that had to
be the guy. Remember, the forty Niners didn't exactly read
massive benefits out of that trade, as much as people
loved on draft night to just bang the drum uh

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and beat up on the Bears. Now, did the Bears
draft the wrong guy? Yeah, they should have been in
the whole Deshaun Watson thing. Anybody claiming they should have
had Mahomes it's revisionist history. Get over yourselves. You can't
time time heist things like you're a Marvel character. But
the fact is that they made the pick and that
was their guy. Here. The Green Bay decided they wanted

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Jordan's love as the era parent guy an insurance card,
which is the second part of this, the insurance card
should Rogers have another injury issue like he did back
in The biggest problem is then they add two guys
to the team that don't add a lot in terms
of weaponry to make this year's team better. A J.
Dillon just cuts into Aaron Jones work and Josiah Deguara

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out of Cincinnati the tight end. Really, that's your answer
at the back end of the round. That's the first
weapon you add to the receiving corps. I'm sorry, it
just doesn't work here, Aaron, we got you some help.
Oh great, what you do. Well, we took a quarterback
who's gonna take your job, so we we we well,
we got the offensive help. I should say that right
that that's more three offensive players. There you go, there's

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Day two of the NFL Draft, And without a doubt,
this was the star. And here's the thing, it wasn't
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days of the NFL Draft are in the books, and
without a doubt, the big star of day two was
Bill Belichick's dog, the dog which was in Belichick's draft
room sitting at his computer. And I'm fully thinking now
that the dog is making the picks for the Patriots.
The dog can speak and only Belichick knows it. And

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that's a movie and I'm pitching that to Netflix tomorrow. Yeah,
we need you get that treatment together, because you can
take it one or two ways. It's either a buddy
comedy where you know, crazy things happen, and people are
always trying to, you know, ferret out what really is
going on in the house, or someone actually finds out,
and then there's a series of people that find out

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and it becomes a murder mystery, and the and the
dog becomes the sleuth that figures it out or one
of the prime suspects, whichever way you want to take. Well,
I don't know what I'd rather have a talking dog
being a sleuth or being the prime suspect. Well, that's
what I'm saying. We can pitch it either way. What
if it was just jumping like an anti hero, because

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you know, he's living such a dark life, but is
winning Super Bowls? See I think if you go that point,
it's an all dog movie and Belichick's the only human
and he can't talk, because, let's face it, would it
be really that worth a movie if Belichick was the
one who didn't talk and was just the dogs and spoke,
that'd be okay. And Belichick's played by Robert de Niro,

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who invokes his effort in the fan, Hey Belichick's dog show,
everybody you can speak? What what's the thing that's on
top of the house? Right, right, right, okay, right? And
who was who held the record in Major League Baseball
until Hank Aaron broke it most home runs in his
MLB career. That's right, right, right as right? Hey, what's

(01:59:34):
the who is that comedian the seventies? Uh? Woman? She
was very funny. Her last name was Buzzy. First name Ruth.
That's right, Ruth, I get it now. Okay, God, Hey,
what's that candy bar that was in Caddyshack that they
found at the bottom of the pool They was poop?
Well it was a baby? What? Yeah, don't don't, don't,
don't get into early. You gotta wait to finish the question. Alrightish,

(01:59:59):
I gotta finish the question. Let me finish question. Hey,
who's that character from Ozark with the curly frizzy hair?
Really good actress? Uh? What what? What's what's her character's
name in the TV show? I don't think he knows
this one. Oh, I don't know. The dog doesn't know
that one. I keep forgetting her name. Oh that's right, Ruth. Yes,

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I get I got it. That see how he regained
his composure and got it done? Yes, yes, and I understand.
I think I'm out of Ruth, though I don't know anymore.
Ruth's Oh, hey, who was that doctor that used to
talk about sex on the radio all the time? She
was doctor? That's right, Dr Ruth, that's right. I forgot about,
forgot about. She's still going, isn't she? I think so,
Dr Ruth West Timark, Yes, um in, a man feels

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good about himself and a woman feels good about so.
Belichick's dog clearly is the steel of the draft. Belichick
just doesn't care, you know. And this is the thing
for everybody who says Belichick the guy just walks through,
doesn't get of a crap about what people say about him.
Is image No, no, no. Belichick wants you to always

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know that he's the coolest guy in the room, and
he's the smartest guy in the room. Look, I'm gonna
let my dog sit here and sit in front of
the computer, and then everybody's gonna want to know what
am I gonna do. Oh, I'm gonna go draft player
at a Division two with the first draft pick post
Tom Brady. I'm gonna make a lot of trades and
we're gonna move up, and we're gonna move down and

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move back, and we decided we do all of these things,
and You'm just gonna get up and come back, and
the dog is gonna sit there, and I'm gonna make
a pick, and after we make it pick, him gonna
get up and walk away, like I don't need to
be at the computer anymore, and like it doesn't matter
if the dog is just hitting the keyboard. We're gonna
make our picks however we want to do it. He
always wants you to know that I'm the smartest guy
in the room, and this was tonight with all of that.

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So trust me. Even people that don't that you think, Uh,
he doesn't have an image, he doesn't care. No, his
image is that he wants you to think he doesn't
care about his image. That's what it is. That's it's
like that Hollywood thing where boy that that that actor
just really doesn't do anything with his hair when he
walks out of the house. No, he does crazy stuff
with his hair to make it look like he doesn't care,

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and his hair just looks like that when he walks
out of the house. There's a lot of care in that.
And that's what Belichick does. Yeah, I mean, we're looking
at a couple of laptops, one, a notebook, and a
football and his dog. I mean that's really what you
were at, and with the on the table from because
table like that was from my grandparents house. I'll tell
you what I wish I had that table. That's a

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couple of thousand dollars. It could be expensive. You're right,
it could be an expensive table. That's something I figured
I could find at one of the antique places. Not
it's not necessarily a good will salve astronomy. Those exist.
But you know, we've got all those antiquing you can
do here in southern California, And usually when you walk in,
it's like, how much is that thousand? Nope, I'm going

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back to one of the other places and see it.
Uh So we go from there. But you know, it
looked like like my parents breakfast nook at their place
in Florida. I mean, just a little table that you
go and sit at and that's it. You drink your coffee,
maybe read the morning paper, and off you go. And
I can totally envision Bill Belichick doing that. I fully

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expected someone to bring him a spot of tea at
some point while he was doing the draft, snacks to
his dog. Would you like, just what the dog, I
will get bring a dog with snack. That'll be fine.
We do that and we work out well. But that's
a TV show. I really, that's a TV show. It
does work. The dog talks. The dog has been making

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all the picks and doing all the moves for Belichick
the past twenty years, right, like he really doesn't know
anything about football, Like he knows absolutely nothing. But the
dog is the one telling him all the things to do.
And that's why they're doing well well right now, they
just need to add a couple of cameras to vrabel
House and Belichick House and whatever the hell Kingsbury's doing. Uh,

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and we'll just go from there. And you've got three
hours of programming for any network that you want to
run right now. I don't like what So let's go
to that rainy guy. Are you give me really good?
Let's put him in there. You know who we should do?
Why don't you get a camera? Guy goes to the
other team to get them plays? You know, they put

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the camera on the dog. Everybody wants to pet the dog.
What's he getting? Intel? So here's the here and here
here's the first season the TV show. Because I'm gonna
have a meeting with Netflix and Amazon Prime tomorrow. Is
that you find out, you know, the first episode is
all about Belichick right in this dog and everything else
in Belichick Bell Do you think he's really smart? And
then the first episode, Edge comes home and he asked

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the dog a question and the dog answers him. You're like, WHOA,
I gotta watch the show now. So then you get
into the second episode and you find out that's the
crux of the show. The Patriots win lose depending on,
you know, the dog being the big thing, And of
course the dog has its own life and has dramas
going on. It's his life. So we follow both the
dog and its life as it helps the Patriots get
better and Belichick in his life. And at the end

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of the first year, kind of the equivalent of having
the crazy neighbor that thinks something bad is going on
next door and everybody thinks he's nuts. We have the
one person or the one team that knows there's a
talking dog and tells everybody, but nobody listens because it's
such a stupid idea. This role will be played by
the New York Jets, and that's the sect that sets
up the second season. The Jets know the dog talks,

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but nobody believes them. Oh, I like he got all
fake of Hey, you know it's Adam Gaze and he
keeps having shots of that and floating tacos. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
it got to be a theme. Yeah no. And the
dog is trolling at him like Adam Gaze sees him
through the windows, like mud streaked on his face. And
the dog is eating tacos staring at Adam Gaze. This

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Roco is pretty good. You've you've taken up some new
hobbies during this quarantine time happened? You come behind you? Who?
I think that that's a show, that's that's two seasons
right there. It's all we need. That's easy. And then

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you know, you could always you always have the opportunity
to bring in additional guest stars. Here's someone representing the Ravens.
Here's Jerry Jones for no reason at all. No. And
the thing is, Jerry Jones would come in and like
in the like the end of the second season, and
he'd be the one to say, oh, I've known all

(02:06:24):
along this dog and talk. You know why, because I've
got a cat that can speak. And then you know,
the cat's been telling Jerry Jones all these meets to make.
But of course the cat's been making him spend all
kinds of money he shouldn't he shouldn't spend, and the
cats telling him, uh certainly like here, like like go ahead, Uh, well,
I need some advice. What do I do with the
Marii Cooper? I was thinking like three years and twenty million. Oh,

(02:06:46):
hundred million. Okay, let's write that down. Hundred million for
Mary Cooper. Let's do that right there. Oh and and
pay all the offensive lineman too. I mean, how many
like mine? Or two? No, three or four? Okay, we'll
pay all of those guys. Are you very good? Right there?
And uh, what do you think should I pay these
guys in real money? I mean, or should I have
like the do counterfeit stuff? Oh, Jerry Bucks, Well it's

(02:07:07):
a great idea. I can put myself on a on
a fifty dollar bill and he's a counterfeitter and he's
being hunted. Listen, kitty, I'll put you on on a
hundred dollar bill. How's that sound? Five dollar bill? Okay,
five dollar bill for the cat. Oh and you want
a yacht too? You want a special kitty cat yacht. Okay,
I'll get a cat yat two cat yachts. Okay, alright, fine,

(02:07:29):
we'll get too cat yachts. Uh make that, boy, how
do I make that? I got gotta make that happen
with a cat yacht. And now we take off into
season three and now it's you know, Belichicken the dog
and Jerry Jones and the cat. I think that's good.
You gotta have to spin off much like we've had
with our classic sitcoms. Yes, you know, Jerry and his
cat get their show, Steven, and here's this whole other

(02:07:53):
world of characters that come in. See it all works
program in that if Stephen would be like Kramer, always
walking out, stevens here just kind of wanders in. Stephen,
you gotta knock you started a cat. We're sitting here
trying to watch that Dogs Versus Cats movie, and uh,

(02:08:15):
it's not going well. So we're we're gonna watch the
Truth about Cats and Dogs with that Janine Garofolo or
is it Mike Garofolo or Mike Garafolo. But don't don't
forget before you go. Mitten says, you guysn't clean the
kiddy letter, Stephen so make sure you clean that for
him because we got Yeah. See he's very upset. We

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got some game plan and they go over tomorrow. Uh
so we're gonna do that and see how we go.
He says we should take the Prescott kid. Uh in
the draft. I mean, I want to pay more money
to Tony, but uh, I think we're gonna take a Prescott.
And that's the show. That's a show right there. That's
a show right there. That's a show. That's a show.
Twitter and trademark ending leave it alone, Twitter and out

(02:08:58):
of out of Fresco. Mike gets swollen on The Jason
Smith Show with Mike Carmen Live from the Geico Studios.
Coming up in nineties seconds. The biggest thing you can
learn from a draft, it's not about taking the best
available player, because one team tonight showing you that there's
something else just as important. We'll get to it next,
but first special delivery. Steve T. Sager has what's training? Yes,

(02:09:19):
d I thought I heard on the telecast tonight during
Round three a comment from Belichick's dog when New England
took two tight ends in the round. Unfortunately that ESPN
had a graphic saying the dog's grandmother and had a
parasite of some sort and I don't know, typical, typical

(02:09:39):
of what they've been doing. Please ESPN stop that with
the tragic graphics tomorrow, can you please? NFL draft does
conclude tomorrow, people. Rounds four through seven start at noon
Eastern time on Saturday, and yes tonight. In round three,
New England did take two tight ends U C. L
A s. Devon Assisi and then also Virginia tech Tit

(02:10:00):
and Dalton Keene still undrafted so far, quarterbacks Jake from
from Georgia, Jacob Eason from Washington, and others. In round
two this evening, there were five running backs selected, including
the Lions taking George's DeAndre Swift, and the Colts got
All American running back from Wisconsin Jonathan Taylor. The Eagles
selected Oklahoma quarterback Jalen Hurts. Last night's first round on

(02:10:21):
TV was the most watched draft night ever, over fifteen
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(02:10:44):
way from College Football Talk that here, through three rounds,
the SEC conference has had forty players selected already. Compare
that to the forty one of the Big Ten, Big twelve,
and Pack twelve combined so far. The only FBS conference
that hasn't had a player are selected in these first
three rounds. The MAC Conference no maction so far in
the draft. The Rams restructured the contract a quarterback Jared

(02:11:08):
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forward Precious at Chewa declared for the NBA Draft, he
was American Conference Player of the Year. And another virtual
NASCAR race this Sunday, one pm Eastern Time at Virtual

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Talladega on Fox TV and f S one. And the
guy who was the inspiration for Bull Durham's wild picture
has passed away. Steve dhl cal Ski was eight. His
sister said he had passed away this past week. Had
several pre existing conditions that were complicated when he became
infected with the new coronavirus. Dolkowski had been in assisted

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living for twenty six years because of alcoholic dementia. Looking
at his minor league stats, and he was in the
minors pitching wildly for almost a decade. Nineteen sixty Class
C Stockton finished with two hundred sixty two strikeouts and
two hundred sixty two walks in the same season, and
in fact, in Class D just a few years before

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that per nine innings, seventeen strikeouts, eighteen walks per per
nine innings only Cow. I'm guessing he didn't go nine
innings in any game at Class D. Evil thanks to you,
thanks a bunch and one thing I'm thinking in that
Seahawks Packers game you're talking about five years ago. You know,
you gotta watch out because eventually a playoff game is

(02:12:54):
going to be decided by the hands team, and there's
gonna be you know, you know what, you got to
recover the on side kick of it. You know, I'm
I'm not saying it's gonna be that game, but it
could be, because eventually that's gonna happen. You mean, on
fourth down, they're gonna have like a fourth and fifteen
like the XFL and just decide the NFC championship that way. Well,
I'm I'm watching Thursday night FS one be there legs

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a bunch team. I appreciated, buddy. So you know, a
lot of it been made of the speaking of the
Patriots to be serious about the Patriots for a couple
of minutes of the Patriot Way and the NFL Draft,
including the first couple of days. Everybody is always happy
with their picks. Every every team, you know, every team
always gets the highest guy rated on their board. Right
for no matter what, every we got the highest rated

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guy on our board, no highest rated gard we got
our guy. We got our guy. And you always hear
the age old argument, best available player, biggest need, all
of these things. And then you get a situation where
you understand why teams play better than others and just
watching just for instance, it's not just my team, but
I'm giving you the example tonight of the Jets, who

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have been widely praise by what they've done so far
in the draft. Look, getting MIM's in the second round
is a huge, huge, huge deal. A guy with a
chip on his shoulder, he's a great playmaker, He's gonna
fit in great. The Jets have picked players who have
that angry mean streak, have something to prove, and have
a motor that doesn't stop. Right. All all their picks

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are players who, hey, we don't have any that we
We want to turn these guys out and let them
go and let him go play. And that's so under
the radar for so many teams because if you have
to worry about a guy's motor, or you have to
worry about a guy's motivation or something, that's not gonna
work out for you. When when you try to build
a culture, you want to build around guys where that

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second nature and everybody has a motor that doesn't stop.
Everybody plays with a chip on their shoulder, nobody takes
plays off that's how you build a culture. Jets about
one of the worst cultures in football the past decade plus,
and now they're trying to fix it because these are
the types of players that they d afted. Now you
look at the Patriots, you wonder how they're able to
win for twenty years. You hear about the Patriot way.

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The Patriot way is finding the right player that will
fit into the system of what the Patriots want to do.
Now it's not as simple as well, we take this
guy even though he's really a six round pick, will
take him in the third round. It's if you need
a cornerback and you're picking in the third round and
there's six potential players out there, maybe the guy you're
gonna take is the third best. But because he'll fit

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in with what your team is doing, it will be
an easier fit and he will play better because of that.
And it's not always about said, boy, this guy is
rated the highest. He's got the size, he's got, the speed,
he's got the strength. We take him, Oh bah boy.
But a lot of time those guys don't work out.
That's so undervalued because we think about best available and
and and we think about just get this guy, plug hman.

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We need a defensive end. Let's get that defensive end.
And no matter who it is. And well, maybe that
guy doesn't work or maybe you reached for him, but
picking culture and picking what fits in with what you
want to do, and that's something that that team then
gets the buy out from. As time goes on, you
get the you get the immediate influx of talent, and
then over a year or two, as boy, they've brought

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six or seven guys in the building each year, that
really change how things are changed, the perception of a team.
Change it for free agents who want to come, change
it for the coach, make it easier on the players.
That's why teams win. You know, it's not always just
best available here. Plug them right in. We need we
need a run stuffer. Let's go get the run stuffer.
This is how it works. This is how the best
teams do it. And I'm glad to see you know,

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my team finally and other teams do it as well
using that philosophy, because that's what really is going to
pay off down the road. Instead of trying to put
square eggs and round holes, well, I mean that's a
big thing. Trying to figure out what best practices are
in your particular business. Doesn't matter if you're coaching football
or you're in sales, or you're barking like you and

(02:16:51):
I I mean you're you're trying to figure out best
practices to engage the ear, the mind, and the wallets.
And in this case, how do you get a group
of fifty three guys together to win football games and
keep pushing so you can stay employed, keep your machine
in place and roll right. We don't have the same
world in college football save a few spots like we

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used to used to be able to build a program
and be there for life. You don't get that long lease.
Sometimes you don't even get that full cycle of recruits
before you're thrown out the door. If the winds don't
follow directly. In the NFL cut that time in half.
And a lot of these organizations it's the you know,
just shuckle up and deal every eighteen months, because when
they go to the owners meetings and get made fun

(02:17:34):
of for whatever higher or last three hires or whatever
I think about haslem going to anything having to do
with owners in Cleveland. Man, That's why you keep firing guys,
because he can't keep his mind made up because he
lets group think take over and and responded to the mockery.
Maybe I'll actually stay with the group he's got in there.
Now we'll see. But the Patriots, the the Ravens. You've

(02:17:58):
got very few organizations that are just stable, and you're
finally starting to see it. Your Jets, the Dolphins with
a former Patriot assistant coach trying to do the same thing.
Here's your years what they're doing in San Francisco. There's
at least three and now we'll see it build and
we'll see if the Jets are actually doing the right
way or if they've screwed up colossally and we just
haven't figured it out yet. I'm sure. Well, look the

(02:18:20):
Jets and everything right, which means none of this will
work out all right, then none of it's gonna We're
gonna be bad. Sure, that's how it goes. Twitter At
how about a fresco Mike get swollen on The Jason
Smith Show with Mike Carmen coming up next. With the
first two days of the NFL Draft done, we'll tell
you everything we liked and didn't like, and what the
first two days, all the big stories mean. That's coming
up next, keep it right here a Fox Sports Radio.

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Fox Sports Radio. It is the Jason Smith Show with
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(02:19:03):
Jason Smith Mike Carmen live from the Geico Studios. Also,
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Mike Harmon. So with these two days now in a
rear view mirror we have rounds four through seven coming
up in the NFL Draft tomorrow, one, two, and three.
Let's go over what we've learned, what we like, what
we didn't like the first couple of days. How does
that sound? Mr? All Right, I'm gonna tell you this.

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After yesterday, one year from now, Aaron Rodgers will be
looking for a new team. The Packers are going to
allow him to seek a trade and he will find
his new team as long as it's approved and the
Packers want to trade him. So it's not gonna be
to New England, because no one's gonna say, here you go, Belichick.
Just because people want Rogers and want the Patriots to
have a quarterback, They're gonna get to Shawn Watson. They're

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gonna get Aaron Rodgers, yes, because Belichick is gonna put
the Jedi mind truck on them and make them trade them.
It's not gonna be New England. But Aaron Rodgers finds
a new team, what say you? I say it's two
years because then the contracts out less messy. They co
exist for two years. Because this year is kind of
just stay, you know, just grab a lunch pail and
come along. Is it's less gonna be a weird offseason.

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Wa Wait, isn't less messy and Leonel Messi's brother? I
think I think that's lesser messy. Uh so yeah, I
think it's two years when that about that time they'll
have decided whether love can play or not. See, I'm
gonna say two years is when Jalen Hurts takes over
for Carson Wentz. As things just have always been weird

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with Wentz and the Eagles. They played better under Nick
Foles that did on der Wentz. In two years, if
he has not become a leader, if he's not stepped up,
if he's still injured, Jalen Hurts takes over, they will
have no problems walking away because look, when you draft
a quarterback in the first or second round, you're drafting
them expecting them to be your starter at some point.

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And that's what we saw from both these teams. And
that's the plan, I dig it. I mean, I think
with with Hurts, you got a guy who grew quite
a bit this past year. You saw some of the
weapons drafted over these first two days. Uh, big question
is can they stay healthy? In the receiving corps. We
chronicled the numbers a bit earlier. You have the two
tight ends Urns and got Itard, and then everything else

(02:21:37):
was you know, often injured, problem received problems with receivers
right our Sega Whiteside wasn't ready for prime time. De
Sean Jackson was back, but he had a core issue,
couldn't get on the field. We all know what happened
with Nelson Aguilar and a couple of key moments. I
mean their next leading receiver was Miles Sanders out of
the backfield, So I mean you got you got us

(02:22:00):
in that receiving corps that need to be short up
as well. So a bit surprised they didn't go down
that road. Uh as well. I'm gonna tell you my
favorite pick of tonight was Laviska Cho for the Jacksonville Jaguars. Look,
I've loved him for like two years. He got hurt
a little bit, and he was on a bad team.
He didn't get a lot of publicity. But this kid

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is so good. He's he's a yak machine. He does
most of his damage after he catches passes. He's fast
enough you can line him up anywhere on the field.
You can line him up with the weakest dB on
the other team. This kid has everything it takes to
be a star. I love this pick for the Jaguars.
I wanted the Jets to get him, but it just
didn't happen. You're just so giddy. I'm curious to see

(02:22:41):
what happens in Indianapolis now, Marlon Max gonna lose some
touches with Taylor going there, but adding Pittman as they
did to the wide receiver corps still got some work
to do. Uh t Y Hilton and you've got your
tight ends. But I I like what they're doing to
try to make things as easy as bo usible for
Philip Rivers. So between him and Tom Brady got Wilve

(02:23:05):
Sunday one. I mean, we're looking at the old guys
get to extend their runs a little bit longer. Here
Smith to hope for all of us. Look, it was
great see seeing that the Colts get two big players
to help Rivers or Andrew Luck when he comes back
in one get a wide receiver, you get a running back.
It was a phenomenal day for the Colts today and

(02:23:26):
also a phenomenal day for all of us because the
way the draft went, there were no real hiccups and
it wasn't like we felt we were watching something completely
strange and alien. After the first couple of minutes, it
was just the NFL Draft and it was great. It
worked out. Oh so such a huge first two days.
Can't wait to see it finish off tomorrow. Hope for
From and East and to have a better day because

(02:23:47):
and I'm feeling for both those guys right now, I'll
tell you, especially From, It's like, why did the guy
come out? He didn't have a great year. I don't
get it if he was gonna go now you're looking
at the guy who could be a backup Jake From
That's gonna be a big story. Hopefully goes tomorrow and
dreams come true. Jonas Knoxes. Next, This is Fox

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