January 2, 2025 • 45 mins
On tonight's edition of The Best of The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon, Aaron Torres and Jason Martin fill in for Jason Smith and Mike Harmon. Aaron and Jason kick off the hour by breaking down the College Football Playoff matchups between Ohio State vs. Oregon and Texas vs. Arizona State. Next, they dive into the Texas vs. Arizona State Peach Bowl matchup, debating whether the Longhorns’ double-overtime victory was truly a win for the program. Tune in for all this and more on tonight's edition of The Best of The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon!
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my man in Nashville. How you doing, I'm doing all right,
I'm a little frustrated. Obviously, we're not watching a Sugar
(01:12):
Bowl the worst possible.
Speaker 5 (01:14):
Reason, and it's just annoying that things like this can happen.
Speaker 6 (01:19):
It really is. It's frustrating. There's not a good way
to even put it.
Speaker 5 (01:22):
But I think being mad about it is right, like
not mad that we're not watching football, but mad that
this kind of thing happens.
Speaker 6 (01:29):
Mad that people continue to do things like this.
Speaker 5 (01:33):
So I'm frustrated by that, and I'm a little bit
bummed because Ohio State Oregon was supposed to be a great,
awesome thing for us to watch on New Year's and
it turned out to basically be not worth watching after
the first quarter, with all due respect to anybody who
you know, you know, had a dog in the fight.
(01:54):
In the third and the fourth quarter, nobody thought they
were coming back. It was over so fast. It was
somehow even more lopsided than the Tennessee game, Like it
felt like Oregon put up less of a fight than
Tennessee did. And so I was I'm a little miffed. Actually,
at least we got a good finish to the first game.
But I am seeing again instant classic No that game
(02:15):
I sent you a text early in.
Speaker 6 (02:16):
The fourth quarter and said, what a boring football game?
Like it just was.
Speaker 5 (02:20):
It was not interesting and not fun to watch at all.
And then you got an awesome finish. You got a
great you know, last ten minutes of the fourth quarter
or so somewhere in that neighborhood, and then you got
the overtimes, and so you got all of that. I'm
still not ever going to call that a great game,
but I'm glad that we got the last like fifteen
to twenty minutes of drama.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
Yeah, so let's dive in.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
And obviously, as j mar just said, there is no
late evening college football, as Chris Purphett told you earlier
as well. Obviously, tragedy early early early this morning on
Bourbon Street the Sugar Bowl, which was set to kick
off at eight forty five Eastern, has been postponed until
Thursday afternoons.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
So obviously there is no late game.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
So the three games of the college football Quarterfinals are official,
with Penn State winning on New Year's Eve, and then,
of course, earlier today, Texas in two overtime surviving Arizona State,
which we'll talk about in a minute, but do think
probably jmark the right place to start, even though there
isn't you know, as much to break down as we anticipated.
Ohio State just laying the wood to Oregon final scoring
(03:28):
this one forty one to twenty one. And for people
that were doing stuff on New Year's Day. By the way,
Rob Parker just signed off with this sentiment and I
want to share it as well. We appreciate everybody tuning
in to us. You know, we know that not everybody
has the holiday off. Some of you are working, you're traveling.
Certainly on a day like today, you're in the car,
so we're taking you till two am Easter.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
We're going to keep you entertained.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
And obviously it goes without saying our thoughts are with
everybody in New Orleans over just the insanity that happened
earlier today.
Speaker 5 (04:00):
That dwarfs anything that we're about to do, as a
matter of fact, by by a wide, wide margin. There's
no way we can do it justice. It just it
just stinks. There's nothing else, there's nothing else to say about.
It's just that our thoughts and our prayers and everything
is with the officials and everybody that are trying to
get to the bottom of what's happened, trying to make
sure everyone is safe, and of course the families of
(04:22):
the victims. Just I can't even imagine, can't even fathom
what you were going through, truly, And if you.
Speaker 6 (04:30):
Are listening, I'm sure you're not.
Speaker 5 (04:31):
But if anybody down there that has had a really
tough day happens to be listening right now, I hope
that we find a way to entertain you and maybe
take your mind off it for a couple of seconds.
But I hate, I really truly hate that we are
not on air in this window, with this live football
game in front of us, because of the worst of humanity.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
Don't disagree, don't disagree again. The Sugar Bowl postpone until
relocal time. That would be for eastern on Thursday. That
will be Notre Dame Georgia, and we'll actually talk a
little bit about that game later on in the show.
Let's stick with the Ohio State Oregon Rose Bowl game.
Did just go final probably about a half or hour
or so ago. The final score, excuse me, excuse me,
(05:19):
is as I said, it's forty one to twenty one.
But I think that scores even a little bit deceptive
j Mart because it was thirty four off the Ohio State.
Oregon scores a touchdown in two point conversion right before
the half, but as you said, there was never really
a moment. I guess Oregon did score to make it
thirty four to fifteen about the middle of the third quarter.
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But even when they scored, I thought Kirk Kurbstreet and
Chris Fowler, who have taken a lot of heat the
last couple weeks, for some of the stuff they said
during the last Ohio State game, I actually thought they
brought up a good point. They said, it's great that
you scored, but oh, by the way, you took almost
half of the third quarter to do it, and the
defense hasn't proven an ability to stop Ohio State's offense.
And so just a few minutes later, Ohio State's scores
(06:00):
to go at forty one to fifteen, and that was
basically all she wrote. There are so many angles that
we can talk about on this game.
Speaker 6 (06:09):
I'll just start.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
You know, you know New Year knew me, you know
Ryan Day, I'm a believer now for people who listen
to our normal show, Jason and i Aron from eleven
pm to two am Eastern every Saturday, and obviously in
that window, especially in the fall, we talk a ton
of college football. I've been critical of Ryan Day. Jay
Mart's been critical of Ryan Day. But I'll say this,
Ja Mart. Even this past weekend when we were working,
(06:31):
he said, listen, I've seen a lot from Ohio State.
You know, I'm starting to become a believer. I was
still in the camp of Listen, we've seen Ryan Day
coach a singular, individually good game. We haven't seen Ohio
State kind of put it together. Well, today is what
putting it together looks like. Today is what building upon
another dominant win a week ago against Tennessee looks like.
(06:54):
And today is what this team that Vegas has had
as the favorite since before or the season started, has
supposed to look like all along. It took a while
to get there, but the bottom line remains, this is
a twelve team playoff era. You can lose a game,
you can lose two games, maybe even three depending on
who you are, and still get into this college football playoff.
Speaker 6 (07:14):
Well, Ohio State.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
Is not only in, but they look like the dominant
force after a dominant victory in a second round game
against Oregon, obviously a team that they lost too earlier
this year.
Speaker 5 (07:25):
I mean, like four plays into the game, it's fourteen
to nothing, and it just the two teams could not
have looked more different. And your point about Ryan Day,
I don't know what this means for him long term.
I do think that Chip Kelly has certainly gotten better
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in the last couple of games, no doubt. Finally he
has started to figure it out in terms of what
he wants to do with his talent and how they've
been utilizing it. So that's helped. The defense has really
woken up. That money has been well spent all of
a sudden, but we knew the talent that they had.
Speaker 6 (08:02):
I think now there is an argument to.
Speaker 5 (08:05):
Be made that you better go win the National Championship
because nobody should beat the team that I've seen play
their last two football games. And I am still baffled
by how you lost to Michigan, Like just I don't
understand it in any reok way.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Listen, we have to acknowledge, like, wow, whatever went wrong
against Michigan, that coaching staff figured it out, But it's
also like, how did you lose to Michigan? And by
the way, I know, Michigan beat Alabama in a bowl
game on New Year's Eve. I don't care. It's like,
how did that?
Speaker 5 (08:39):
Like?
Speaker 6 (08:39):
One?
Speaker 3 (08:40):
Just first of all, Jeremiah Smith, the true freshman, he
was the offensive MVP in this game. Seven catches, one
hundred and eighty seven yards, two touchdowns. I saw Dan Brugler,
a longtime NFL draft experts, that he believes there would
be an argument for Jeremiah Smith, a true freshman, to
be the first over all pick in this year's draft
(09:02):
if he were draft dollible. See he's not eligible, how
about this until the twenty twenty seven NFL Draft. Yeah,
but I just bring it up because listen, if you're
an Ohio State fan, I know it's in the rearview mirror.
I know you want to celebrate your team looking the
way that we thought. But I'll be hout of JMRT.
A part of me still the two best games maybe
Friday's career, And I still go back to that Saturday
(09:24):
in Columbus and just say, how did you lose to Michigan?
So I didn't mean to cut you off, but it's
just still like you can't not talk about Michigan, especially
where the team has looked the last few weeks.
Speaker 5 (09:35):
Yeah, and look I think there's a lot of Michigan
fans that would say the same thing and wonder how
they beat them. Like I mean, when you really look
at it, Davis Warren had sixty two yards passing in
that game for Michigan, and then I look at Jeremiah
Smith five catches, thirty five yards.
Speaker 6 (09:49):
They barely even targeted the guy.
Speaker 5 (09:52):
He had five catches in no time in this game,
and he had like one hundred and sixty yards and
a couple of touchdowns, and he just looked like not
just the best player on the field, but the best
player in recent memory in college football, perhaps just in
terms of just everything that he brings to the table
and what he's going to be doing on the next
level is going to be insanity. But that's where I get,
(10:16):
and I don't want to do anything but say that
Ohio State is showing why everyone was so high on
them before the season and why I had them.
Speaker 6 (10:26):
I believe in my.
Speaker 5 (10:27):
Final game losing to Texas, which now, first off, it's
going to be in the Semis, but past that, I
don't see how Texas is going to be able to
score on their defense, because that's the other side of it,
is the defense Now, there were a couple of moments
in this game, right, So it was it was thirty
four to fifteen, like you mentioned, and they actually forced
Ohio State to punt and Oregon got the ball back said, okay,
(10:51):
all right, now if you go down and you score again,
get a two point conversion. Now we're looking at a
little bit more of an interesting game here. This is
Dylan Gabriel. This is this a high powered Oregon offense.
Let's see what they can do. They had back to
back plays before they ended up punting it away, and
then Ohio State scored again and it was over where
(11:13):
they showed it.
Speaker 6 (11:13):
They put the camera behind the offense.
Speaker 5 (11:16):
They put it behind Dylan Gabriel by about ten yards
and we saw the play after the snap, and of
course Herb Street is breaking it down.
Speaker 6 (11:23):
But I'm just watching it.
Speaker 5 (11:25):
I'm not even listening to what's happening because my daughter
is very loud at three years old, so I'm not
even able to really pick up on the nuance of
what he's saying.
Speaker 6 (11:33):
But I'm looking at it.
Speaker 5 (11:34):
And I'm just saying, where is Dylan Gabriel supposed to
throw the ball? Like there is no one open? And
they do it on multiple plays in a row. They
show this same camera angle and you can see no
one's running free, no one has any space whatsoever. Like
they that defense right there, there is no one that
(11:55):
should be able to score on them. And I look
at Texas and I'm like, good luck against that secondary,
especially with the guys that they have up front, as
well the Texas offense that I have seen for the
better part of this season and certainly the last couple
of weeks, that defense, that offense might not be able
to get into double digits against this Ohio State team.
Speaker 6 (12:16):
Yeah, it's really interesting.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
FanDuel has has released an early point spread Ohio State
a two and a half point favorite over Texas on
a neutral field.
Speaker 6 (12:27):
We'll break down that Texas.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
ASU game a little bit from now, because man, oh man,
oh man. Was that not only a crazy game, but
I think there's also a conversation we had J Martin
about exactly what you just said, which is, you know,
Texas three or four weeks ago maybe look like a
team that could compete with anybody. I don't think they
can if Ohio State is playing the way that they
did here on New Year's Eve nights. So Ra Torres,
(12:51):
Jason Martin. We are broadcasting live from the Tireck dot
Com studios, filling in for Jason Smith and Mike Harmon.
Tell you what we'll do. We'll come back when we
come back. I do want to bring on a guy
who knows the Ohio State program very well. So Joshua
Perry played for Urban Meyers twenty fourteen national championship team.
He now does commentary for NBC Sports. He's going to
(13:12):
discuss what the heck is the difference with Ohio State,
how did they figure things out? And is can anybody
beat him at this point? Because it's looking just about impossible.
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game today. As Chris Perfecchius told you, the Sugar Bowl
has been postponed until Thursday at four pm Eastern, obviously
following the tragedy in New Orleans. Jason Martin and I
(14:19):
certainly speak for the entire Fox Sports Radio family when
we say that our thoughts are with everybody in New Orleans,
every family that was impacted by this senseless attack. You
know you don't need us to tell you how how
you know how awful everything is on Our job is
keep you entertained until two am Eastern to talk a
lot of college football and NFL along the way, Have
(14:39):
you missed any of our one We talked a lot
of Rose Bowl. Josh Perry from NBC Sports former Ohiose
State Buckeye joined us.
Speaker 4 (14:46):
Do you want to switch gears? JMRT to the.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
Early game and the way you framed it to lead
the show I think is accurate. U don't know that
you would have called it a great game through about
two and a half quarters or three and a half orders.
Excuse me, because with let's take a look here, with
about eight minutes left in the fourth quarter, Texas was
(15:10):
up twenty four to eight in this game. This is
the Peach Bowl. I'm of course talking about Texas versus
Arizona State. Texas, a fourteen and a half point favorite,
jumped out early, They scored early, and then a punt
return put them up fourteen to nothing. The fourteen three
excuse me, and he kind of just thought, Okay, the
game's over. They're up twenty four to eight in the
(15:32):
fourth quarter. Back to back Arizona State touchdowns and then
also two point conversions did lead to overtime. Now, of course,
we got to overtime in a very interesting manner, as
there was a very questionable, to say the least, non
call on a targeting play. Arizona State was driving with
(15:53):
the ball late in the game, about under two minutes
to go. At that point, they are right right around
the time out in college football. Bring it up because
there was a very questionable targeting call. It forced an
Arizona State punt. Arizona State punts it to Texas Texas
gets the ball back Bert Auburn. The Texas kicker misses
(16:14):
a field goal thirty eight yards as time expires to
force overtime. Texas does win in two overtimes. Jason, we
could take in any direction you wanted. I just want
to set it up because again Arizona State was down
twenty four to eight, needed two touchdowns to two point conversions,
and then had the ball before that questionable non call
(16:36):
on a targeting So Texas wins in overtime.
Speaker 4 (16:40):
Texas survives, and there is a lot to react to.
Speaker 5 (16:43):
I don't know what to make of the game as
a whole. Certainly it got really interesting late and you
started seeing some wild stuff and Scatabo starts making plays
all over the place, running the ball, throwing the ball.
He's jawing at the camera the way he was jawing
during the week. You either love him or hate him.
I think he comes across a little obnoxious, but I
(17:05):
get it. I gonna understand he plays with confidence and
he has that an unbelievable season. But watching the first
you know, seven eight minutes of that game, you look
at it and you say, all right, well, we're not
gonna be watching this one for very long, looks like
it's over. They can't move the ball at all on Texas.
Texas scores without even trying, basically, and they're up a
(17:27):
couple of touchdowns and you're just waiting for this thing
to be blowout city and we.
Speaker 6 (17:30):
Can move on, and then it ends up not being.
Speaker 5 (17:34):
And I look at this and I'm like, yeah, Texas won,
but they feel that they lost to me because so
they de facto have a home game against Ohio State.
Speaker 6 (17:43):
I mean, it's being played in.
Speaker 5 (17:44):
Austin, Dallas, Dallas, Sorry, it's being played in their home state.
And they're like a five and a half point dog now,
and you get three at home in general, and I'm
not even sure most people think they're going to keep
it within single digits. I understand it's Texas SEC all
this kind of stuff, but there's nothing. I didn't think
they looked that great against Clemson. They look better than Clemson,
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but not like all world. The defense did pretty well,
but Klebnick had a nice game. And then here they
should have stepped on, you know, just stepped on Arizona
State once they took that two touchdown lead, and they
just couldn't do it.
Speaker 6 (18:20):
They couldn't put them away.
Speaker 5 (18:21):
Now, credit to Dillingham, and they did some crazy stuff
where you know, you go for that fake on fourth,
which I thought was a really good decision because they
had to do something. And but you look up and
that game should not have ended up that way, and
you look at the targeting call, and anybody that thinks
that that was not targeting, I don't think there needs
(18:42):
to be a rule then, Like that's as clear.
Speaker 6 (18:46):
That's as clear as targeting as you will ever see.
Speaker 5 (18:48):
So you either call it there or never call it
again for any reason whatsoever. Either way, Arizona State could
have easily won this game and they shouldn't have been
anywhere near it based on how this. So I look
at that, and if I'm sarkesy and I'm saying, what
happened to my football team? Or I got exposed, because
there is nothing about the Texas offense right now that
(19:11):
frightens me at all. If I am Notre Dame's defense,
Georgia's defense, Who've already seen them a couple of times,
and certainly not Ohio State's defense, which looks like the
best unit in the country right now. So I look
at Texas and I just say, I don't know that
you deserve to be there by the way Penn State's
defense either, like there is no defense remaining.
Speaker 6 (19:31):
That should be afraid of them at all, and I
look at yours.
Speaker 5 (19:34):
I don't know that it's different right now with Arch,
but I know what the ceiling is with quinn Ewers,
and there's nothing right now that tells you that they
are going to be able to move the football consistently
through the air or on the ground. Honestly against these
other teams. This could be the defense having to do
a lot of heavy lifting. Takeaways is going to be
(19:54):
the way that Texas stays in these games, and that
I just don't think that's that does not look like
a path to success for me. I think Texas has
won their last game of the year. I just I
just do. I think they're walking into a BUZZSA against
Ohio State. But I'm not sure that right now the
Texas that we were watching Aaron could beat any of
the teams that are left.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
So let's dive into a couple of things. First of all,
a couple of things. First of all, the targeting call
was non call was egregious, and you know every Texas
fan in America will tell you it was the right call.
Speaker 4 (20:28):
And because of this no, no, as you.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
Said, if that's not targeting, then I don't there just
shouldn't be a rule.
Speaker 4 (20:35):
So there's that element of it.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
I was happy, and you know, I'm not happy that
Texas missed a field goal. I'm not rooty against Texas's kicker,
but I'm glad that that did not decide the game.
I don't think it's the reason why Arizona State lost.
Arizona State, by the way, their kicker has been up
and down all year. Their kickers plural have been up
and down all year, and so I only bring that
up to say that even if they got the call,
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there's no guarantee that the kicker makes the field goal.
I'm glad that it wasn't decided in that manner. Credit
to Arizona State, by the way. By the way, before
we get to the Texas side, let's just take half
a second. Arizona State. That was awesome, And you know,
I just think it was kind of an important result
for all of the narratives and where the powers that
be in college football want to take the sport, which
(21:22):
is just basically it's a default.
Speaker 4 (21:24):
No, the SEC and the Big Ten are better than everybody.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
Else, and it's like, well, we've watched the SEC this
postseason that ain't the case. And so I think there
were a lot of people that were kind of just
lumping in Arizona State as, Oh, they're this feel good
story that you know, listen, they're only in because because
they did win their conference, but they prove that they
are competitive with obviously an elite SEC team or whatever.
(21:49):
You know, I don't know if anyone in the SEC's
elite this year, but you kind of get the point.
So want to give credit to Arizona State. But I
do think I agree with you that the more interesting
conversation going forward and really even tonight is Texas, and
just so much stands out by the way they are
showing the targeting non targeting on.
Speaker 4 (22:09):
TV right now. It is such a bad non call.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
But anyway, by the way, producer Shay Savior Arizona State thoughts,
because we're gonna bring you in here to rep this
segment in just a minute, okay, But.
Speaker 4 (22:21):
With Texas, I'm with you, J mart Is.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
You know, I even tweeted this during the game, and
I know you're not on social media anymore. But basically
Texas's game plan really the last about five weeks outside
of Clemson. By the way, Clemson's defense was terrible this year.
Outside of Clemson, Texas's game plan has basically been get
a small lead, hope that the defense plays absolutely incredible,
(22:47):
and then just try to run out the clock. I mean,
remember they beat Arkansas twenty to ten late in the
season the Kentucky game. I remember watching that game. The
final score in that one was thirty one to fourteen,
and it feels like it was that's not a close score.
Go back and look, Texas barely threw the ball in
that game, finish the game with almost three hundred yards
(23:09):
rushing and forty six rush attempts, And so it was
basically the same game plan in that game as this one.
And then obviously the SEC Championship game we remember where
they it felt like they should have been up by
a million and they just couldn't put points on the board.
So I only bring it up to say, I am
with you is that this defense is special. You know,
the run game up until today had been pretty good.
(23:31):
Let's just say what, Let's just have the conversation now
and By the way, we'll have the bigger picture of
Quinn you wers conversation about ten minutes from now. But
the small picture is I don't think you can win
a national championship with them, not with the teams that
you are gonna face in the next two games or
potentially in the next two games.
Speaker 4 (23:46):
I don't think you can do it.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
I don't know if this is a sign that arch
Manning isn't ready, or this is just a sign that
Steve Sarkisian is not going to bail on a guy
that has been in his program for three years and
help elevate the program. I don't know why sark has
been kind of KOI and not answering questions about it,
but I just prayed it up to very simply say
I'm with you, j Martina.
Speaker 6 (24:05):
It took me a long time to get there.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
But the point I'm trying to make is I don't
know what it is about Quinn yours and why a
move hasn't been made, but I don't think that you
can win a national championship.
Speaker 4 (24:16):
If he is your quarterback.
Speaker 6 (24:17):
He's just.
Speaker 5 (24:20):
Whatever that factor is that when you watch somebody you.
Speaker 6 (24:23):
Can see it. He just doesn't have it.
Speaker 5 (24:26):
It's not that he's bad, it's that he's so average
in so many different ways, and you can't be average.
Speaker 6 (24:35):
In this sport.
Speaker 5 (24:36):
You just can't and win at that level. It's not
as if we're watching the greatest quarterback play we've ever
seen across the board in college football this year.
Speaker 6 (24:45):
We're not. We're talking about a week draft.
Speaker 5 (24:47):
We're talking about all of those kinds of things and
young guys making decisions at twenty.
Speaker 6 (24:51):
Years old and things of that nature.
Speaker 5 (24:52):
But like we've watched this years experiment, and I actually
think coming out of last year there was reason to
feel like he was going to come in be really
good this year, and it just hadn't been there. It's
not that it's been terrible, it's just not been great
and it needs to be great at Texas. And if
you're Sork and you're saying you don't want to bail
on him, like you were mentioned that, maybe that's his
thought process here, I get it, but not really, because
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your job, Steve trying to win win the national championship.
It's not to be loyal to anybody. Your job is
to put the best football team out there that can
win for you today and There've been a couple of
times this season when you have taken Quinn you were
was out and put in arch manning because you weren't
sure that you were going to be able to get
the job done. And let's be real here, if Arizona
(25:37):
State's secondary doesn't completely blow it on fourth down, we're
having a much different conversation here. Viewers did make a play,
but that was because of all time terrible secondary play
from Arizona State on that one step where they let
the one guy you can't let get behind you get
behind you, and that turns into about as easy a
(25:58):
touchdown throw that you're gonna have a f you're viewers.
He had time and this guy was running wide open,
and all he had to do was put it in
his hands, and that's exactly what he did.
Speaker 6 (26:06):
They were one play away from losing.
Speaker 5 (26:08):
Like that's how close it was for a Texas team
that had no business losing in that scenario to lose
to Arizona State, who they had beaten down and demoralized
in the first half of that game and then couldn't
finish off and then let them wake up and let
them get confident and cocky and arrogant and everything else,
and it almost cost them. So now you're going to
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go in against the Ohio State and quinn Ewers is
going to be the savior.
Speaker 6 (26:34):
I have a hard.
Speaker 5 (26:35):
Time seeing that strategy, and of course there's time to change,
but it certainly does not feel like Steve Sarkisian is
going to make that move now, and I think it
might be an all time blunder because, as I've said before,
I don't believe in a window you're two games away
from a national championship, do what you can to win
it this year because you have no idea what's going
(26:58):
to happen over the course of the next twelve months.
There's a lot of life, there's a lot of decisions,
there's a lot of youth that has to make decisions,
and there are a lot of other teams that are
having guys making decisions, and all of them are really
good at football too. You've got a shot right now.
Whatever you think is your best chance to win, go
with that.
Speaker 6 (27:16):
And maybe you would just say we're idiots and it's
still quinn Ewers.
Speaker 5 (27:20):
But I'm sorry, I don't think the ceiling of quinn
Ewers right now is a national championship. I think it's
a college football playoff semi final by the skin.
Speaker 6 (27:27):
Of his teeth.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
Producer Shae is a proud Arizona State alum. I'd be
remiss if I didn't give you just a couple minutes.
We don't have a ton of time, Shay, but your
takes on your team, your school, your football team. But
also you know that non targeting call that that did
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not happen all around.
Speaker 7 (27:51):
I'm proud of the boys. It went out of there,
put it out on the field. I'm very proud of them,
But I'm not the type to say this felt like
a win, because it did not feel like a win
at all for me. I was very upset from the outcome.
I definitely think, not only at first, was it stolen
from us. But then I'm not even upset about the
(28:14):
no targeting call. I'm more upset about when we had
them in the first overtime.
Speaker 4 (28:20):
To a play.
Speaker 6 (28:21):
Yeah, broke, That's what I'm saying. That fourth down plays it.
Speaker 5 (28:23):
Man, you make one one one play on your defense
right there, and you are celebrating right.
Speaker 7 (28:29):
Now, And it was our fault. That was our fault,
that was completely our fault. It was broken coverage and
that's the one thing. When that happened, I was like,
all right, we lost. We lost the game, and I
don't want to say anything, but in the back of
my head, I was like, all right, we lost the game,
and we did lose the game from then on, if
no one saw that, but I know, I definitely I'm
(28:52):
happy with the season that we had and obviously like
we're we have a freshman quarterback who's going to be
with us, hopefully for a long time. This is I
don't think this is going to be the end at all.
I think I think definitely this is like a building
block for a su So that's that's I'm more thinking.
I was definitely thinking future the entire time. I was
(29:12):
watching this game, almost thinking, wow, we're actually keeping up
with Texas beating Texas, and we should have beat Texas
if you want to go into the conspiracies and all that.
But no, I I I'm excited for the season, very
disappointed in the in the actual game.
Speaker 5 (29:31):
I was going to point out one thing about Levitt.
Levitt and Madson, both for Arizona State and Boise. Both
of them played pretty well, pretty well, Like you consider
that you're coming in there and they're going to make
you try to beat them because they're going to put everybody.
I mean, Penn State sold out for four quarters against
Astian Genty and then you saw the same thing against Scatibo.
(29:53):
But I thought that both those quarterbacks answered the bell
and and made some plays that I'm I'm not sure
going in a lot of people in the country would
have presumed they would have made.
Speaker 6 (30:04):
I came way.
Speaker 5 (30:05):
I didn't look at the turnovers as much because I
know that Madison was trying to make a lot of
plays late and so he was throwing into some danger
for some emergency routes and things like that.
Speaker 6 (30:15):
I just thought, I think both of them deserve credit.
Speaker 5 (30:17):
Because everything was placed on them because they were not
going to let those two running backs beat them.
Speaker 6 (30:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
Scatibo, by the way, was unfreaking believe one. I know,
early game, yes, but like I mean, what was it
the two point conversion? I mean there was a play
where he got hit about three yards from the goal line,
and I I because you know, by the end of
the Dame line, yeah, Jbar, I can't speak for you.
By the end of the game, I was rooting for Asu.
I think most of America was I was too, and
(30:45):
there was one play where Scatibo got hit. He had
to get hit about the four yard line, and I
kind of did that quick reaction turn around. Why did
they run it up the middle? And then I turned
back around and the ref's arms are up and it
was either a touchdown or a conversion. I forget it
was one of the two point versions, or maybe it
was the overtime touchdown score, but I was like, this
guy was unbel obviously, you know, pass for a touchdown
(31:07):
had that great reception, you know, uh, you know, it's
just like you said, yeah, I you know, listen, nobody
does moral victories at this level. But it's like man,
oh man, oh man. And then to your to your
both of your points that I probably should have pointed
out earlier, it really, you know, for people who didn't
watch the game, Arizona was one play away from from
(31:28):
winning the game. Unfortunately, it goes to a second overtime
where texts where Texas gets the one by way. I
think I said Arizona was one play, but it was
obviously Arizona State. I by said Arizona anyway.
Speaker 7 (31:37):
Definitely, there's been so many mess ups too leading up
to this game all week, everyone's calling them the Wildcats fired.
There was so many like, so many things would be
like showing the Wildcats, and that happened so much this James.
Speaker 3 (31:54):
I was just gonna say, Arizona got certainly some interesting
news today.
Speaker 6 (31:58):
But Bryce James Brownie Lebron.
Speaker 7 (32:00):
Yeah Lebron.
Speaker 6 (32:01):
Yeah, I heard he's already a lottery pick.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
Yeah, I know we have any Lakers fans still in
the building. Rob Gara here to break down the twenty
twenty eight roster. Forty three year old Lebron Bronni Bryce.
Speaker 5 (32:13):
He say he's gonna be playing for five to seven more.
He said he could play for five to seven more.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (32:17):
I hate to say this, but my initial reaction to
that was, please don't like. I really like watching Lebron
play basketball.
Speaker 5 (32:23):
I'm also kind of ready to see Lebron move on
to the next phase of his life.
Speaker 6 (32:27):
Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 3 (32:29):
So Bryce James commits to Arizona, Arizona State, which.
Speaker 6 (32:33):
I have a tripped up on.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
So I gotta take the l Arizona State loses a
heartbreaker in the Peach Bowl. And now, yeah, for those
people who do think the SEC there's some conspiracy theories
to get their teams to advance. They certainly got some
ammunition in that one. Arizona State falls in double overtime
to Texas. This is The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harma.
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Speaker 4 (32:58):
Till two a m. Easter in time.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
Tell you what, Jason, We're not going to finish the
Texas conversation cause quinn Ewers, who we've just been bashing
for the last twenty minutes.
Speaker 4 (33:10):
Uh, he might be.
Speaker 3 (33:11):
He might be in for a pretty big payday and
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up till two am Eastern time. College football is final
to college football quarterfinals on New Year's Day one, on
New Year's even of course, the Sugar Bowl, which would
(34:09):
have been ending right about now, unfortunately tragically, has been
postponed until Thursday at four pm Eastern time because of
the senseless tragedy in New Orleans. Speak for everybody at
Fox Sports Radio when I say that myself, Jason Martin,
everybody here at Fox Sports Radio. Our thoughts are with
everybody in New Orleans and of course the families that
(34:31):
have been impacted again by the senseless tragedy in New
Orleans on New Year's Day morning, and we're gonna try
to entertain you here till two am Eastern time. I
do want to get back to a conversation that we
had earlier in the show, Jay mart Ohio State, So
Ohio State of course goes to the Rose Bowl coming
(34:51):
off that great win against Tennessee. But I don't want
to say you, but I did a lot of people,
including me, said, Okay, it was great win against Tennessee,
but you were at home for three weeks. You heard
how terrible you were after you lost to Michigan. It's
gonna be an different deal fac in Oregon in the
Rose Bah.
Speaker 4 (35:10):
Oregon's different. They already beat you.
Speaker 3 (35:12):
They're a really good team, they're undefeated Big Ten champion,
and those Ohio State buck guys better watch out.
Speaker 5 (35:18):
Well.
Speaker 3 (35:18):
As it turns out, it should have been Oregon that
was watching out because that game was over basically as
soon as it started. Oregon jumped out or Ohio State
jumped out to a thirty four nothing lead over Oregon.
Oregon scores a touchdown in extra two point conversion just
before halftime. They did score to cut the score to
forty thirty four to fifteen about midway through the third quarter,
(35:38):
but it would never really get closer than that. Ohio
State scores just a few minutes later, they go up
forty one to fifteen. They cruise to a forty one
twenty one victory over over Oregon. I think there's a
lot of conversations to have here, j Mark, but I
think it just starts point blank. Where did this come
from from Ohio State because the last two weeks they
have looked like the team that he thought was the
(36:00):
best team in college football coming into the year.
Speaker 5 (36:03):
I mean, it's just I guess here's the thing. As
long as it shows up in time, I guess it
doesn't matter. The Michigan situation notwithstanding, I mean, that's just
an awful loss, and it looks worse and more baffling
by the week or even by the day when you
start to look at what Ohio State's done over these
(36:24):
past couple of games. But I mean, Dan Lanning after
the game after the Rose Bowl basically just said they
kicked our rear ends completely, like he made zero excuses,
even said I'm not gonna make excuses. They clicked tonight
and we didn't, and I didn't get our team prepared.
So I mean he took it all like he said, Nope,
we weren't prepared to play. They were better than us.
(36:48):
He said, they were clicking on all cylinders. We really
didn't have the ability to stop them, and we didn't
have the ability to get something going for us on offense.
Speaker 6 (36:56):
That's the quote from Dan Lanning.
Speaker 5 (36:58):
The team that played them Tennessee like Tennessee's pretty good
football team. Ohio State made them look bad in that game.
My wife, we're watching the first half of the rose ball.
She's a Tennessee fan, and she said, she says like, man,
I feel a little bit better, And I bet a
lot of Tennessee fans said the same thing, because sometimes
you watch a team beat your team and you say, man,
(37:20):
I hope.
Speaker 6 (37:20):
They go win it all, and that might.
Speaker 5 (37:23):
Be exactly what you're about to see Oregon. The problem
for Oregon was they saw Ohio State too fast. So
this is really going to look bad for them because
they didn't have the opportunity to even win a college
football playoff game despite.
Speaker 6 (37:35):
Being the overall number one seed.
Speaker 5 (37:37):
There will be changes made to that in the future,
but Lanning even said he's like, yeah, you know, we
got that we had to play him first, but you're
gonna have to play good.
Speaker 6 (37:44):
Teams at some point in this tournament. And we ran
into one and we got beat.
Speaker 5 (37:48):
And all credit to him for the way that he can,
the way that he talked after this game, take an ownership.
Speaker 6 (37:53):
But I mean this was as thorough a.
Speaker 5 (37:56):
Butt kicking as you're going to see the first half
against Tennessee and the first half against Oregon are two
of the best halves of football I've ever seen a
college football team play like you look at them on
both sides of the ball, offense, defense, Will Howard throwing
dimes to Abuca and certainly to Jeremiah Smith. Jeremiah Smith,
(38:17):
I had his stats in front of me, just for
these last two games alone, has a Let's see, He's
had two hundred and ninety yards and four touchdowns in
these two games on thirteen receptions.
Speaker 6 (38:31):
He averaged seventeen point two per catch against Tennessee.
Speaker 5 (38:34):
He averaged twenty six point seven against Oregon. He looks
like he's an NFL player that just came back to
play with.
Speaker 6 (38:44):
The young guys.
Speaker 5 (38:46):
Yeah, I mean literally, like he's got an NFL body already,
Like you looked at Marvin Harrison, and Marvin Harrison Junior
was an absolute beast. This is nothing against him, except
that he looked a little bit like he still needed
to grow a little bit in terms of just a
little he wasn't quite as filled out. You look at
Jeremiah Smith and he looks like he already has his
NFL body, like he's ready to go. That you know this, Aaron.
(39:08):
There's guys that are coming out of college basketball. It's like, well,
he's got to get his NBA body. Jeremiah Smith's ready.
He's six four, two point twenty. He's got incredible lower
body strength, He's got unbelievable hands. If you throw it
in his vicinity, he's going to go up and make
the play. They they're just like, I'm stunned that it
(39:28):
took this long. But all they have to do is
win two more games than they win the national championship.
And yes, they lost to Michigan, but I do think
that if you win the national championship, you're gonna be okay.
If you're Ryan Day, I will say that now you
have put yourself in a spot where we've seen what
Ohio State should look like.
Speaker 6 (39:48):
So you now have to go ahead and finish this thing.
Speaker 5 (39:51):
Because I don't look at any other team that's left
and feel like they should have a shot to beat
this Ohio State team if they show up the way
they have in the first two rounds of the tournament.
Speaker 3 (40:00):
Well, and that's where I think a lot of the
you know, for I don't, I actually don't think this
is happening. But you know, I think there there can
be some revisionist history of like, well, you know, all
you guys at want to Ryan Day far do you
sure looks silly now? And it's like, I don't really
feel like we're getting that because I think everybody understands
that Ohio State was always capable of playing the way
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that they have the last two games. It's just a
matter of why didn't it come sooner? And so I
think that's exactly what it is, is whatever happened in
those two three weeks after the Michigan game. And I
think part of it is just human nature of like
they probably did hear it, They probably you know, listen,
we we.
Speaker 4 (40:40):
All know how the world is now. It's unavoidable some
of the stuff.
Speaker 3 (40:44):
And you know, it used to just be sports talk
radio what you and I are doing right now, filling
in for Jason Smith and Mike Harmon.
Speaker 4 (40:51):
But now it's it's social media. It's it's it's it's it's.
Speaker 3 (40:54):
Instagram, it's Twitter, it's this, it's that, it's you know,
you can't get away from it. And so I don't
know what it was, but whatever it was, it has
clearly inspired them, and I'm with you.
Speaker 5 (41:04):
Is.
Speaker 3 (41:04):
I just think it's hard for me to see the
scenario where, if they play to their capability, that anyone
really has any chance of beating them going forward. A
couple quick thoughts. One, Jeremiah Smith, you mentioned him. I
just want to put this out there. We referenced Dane Brugler,
who is an NFL draft expert for the Athletic. We
(41:25):
referenced him earlier when we were talking about Drew Aller,
the quarterback at Penn State. But Dan Brugler during the
broadcast today tweeted out quote, Jeremiah Smith would go number
one in this draft, no doubt in my mind. All
I'll say is, listen, I meant one, it's just a
(41:45):
hypothetical that we know will never happen.
Speaker 4 (41:47):
He's not eligible, by the way, until the.
Speaker 3 (41:49):
Twenty twenty seven NFL Draft, which just sounds like some
futuristic time that isn't nearly as far away as it
actually sounds like it is. But he's not even eligible
till the twenty twenty seven NFL draw. And But two,
I'm with you, I don't know that at this age
I've ever seen anything, and I know I'm not saying
anything like that. Other people haven't said, but it's like,
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I don't know I've ever seen anybody like him, because,
like you said, there's been guys that have been fast,
there have been guys that have made plays as a freshman,
but he just he just physically looks like a guy
that's twenty six, twenty seven years old.
Speaker 4 (42:24):
And you know, I think you mentioned it.
Speaker 3 (42:26):
In a tweet or in a text to me, but
it's like if he was eligible right now, I just
don't know how many guys, how many how many teams
in the NFL, And it sounds crazy, but I don't
think it's hYP hyperbole. How many teams in the NFL
feel like they have a guy at wide receiver one
that's better than him. I mean there's a few, but
there's just not that many. He is a very special player.
Speaker 5 (42:47):
Yeah, I mean, there's nothing to add there. I mean,
he's he's got everything that you want. And Brugler comparing
him to Jones, it's just funny because one of the
things that was said about Julio Jones was so than
that our guests in the first hour said, which is
a reason to go back. By the way, if you
miss any part of this show any day, go listen
to Jason and Mike on the podcast, but certainly check
(43:10):
us out tonight. But because we had Josh Perry on
who played on the Urban Meyer championship team and works
on Big Ten coverage for the NBC, and he called
Jeremih Smith an alien. And that's what Julio Jones was
referred to a lot at Alabama. He was called an alien.
And if you're being compared to Julio Jones before you
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even enter the NFL draft, this is the first time,
like you have this argument once in a while where
all these asuals. I mean, this guy's got to stay
in school for a couple of more years. And most
of the time it's bluster and it's puffery, and it's
a little bit overdone. In this case, I kind of agree,
(43:55):
like in this case, it's almost sad that he has
to stay in college.
Speaker 6 (43:58):
It really is. There have been like Trevor Lawrence.
Speaker 5 (44:02):
I remember we had this conversation about Trevor Lawrence years ago,
even that like you could almost see he still needed time.
Jeremih Smith needs nothing, but Jeremiah Smith just needs a
needs A needs the ability.
Speaker 6 (44:13):
To be drafted.
Speaker 5 (44:15):
And Dame Bruggler is right, like he would leap off
this board. The New England Patriots would run to the
podium to draft Jeremiah Smith if they had the opportunity
to do so.
Speaker 6 (44:26):
In this draft, they're not going to.
Speaker 5 (44:28):
But whoever gets drafted, all due respect to the receivers
that will be draftable in this draft, you're gonna be
looking at the dude that you can't get, like, why
can't we get him?
Speaker 6 (44:37):
Like can we at least put a pre order down
on him so that.
Speaker 5 (44:40):
When he's available, we can just come to the store
and pick him up. Because that dude is NFL.
Speaker 6 (44:46):
Ready right now. So I'll tell you what, ja Mart.
Speaker 3 (44:50):
We are going to spend the next segment kind of
previewing the Texas Jet Texas Ohio State game. But since
I think both of us have made it pretty clear
that if Texas plays the way that they did against
Arizona State, and frankly, the way they've played most of
the last five or six weeks, they're not gonna win,
maybe we come back and talk a little bit of
NFL Draft because you and I are on air on
Saturday nights, and I think we went through all the
(45:11):
scenarios with cam Ward last week and Shador Sanders and
all that, and then of course everybody wins except the
New England Patriots. And now they got the number one pick,
and so maybe we come back talk a little NFL draft.
Those two quarterbacks at the top, a team that does
not need the quarterback and does not need a quarterback,
excuse me? And what do they do and what has
become a very interesting NFL draft going forward. Aaron Torres,
(45:34):
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my man in Nashville. How you doing, I'm doing all right,
I'm a little frustrated. Obviously, we're not watching a Sugar
(01:12):
Bowl the worst possible.
Speaker 5 (01:14):
Reason, and it's just annoying that things like this can happen.
Speaker 6 (01:19):
It really is. It's frustrating. There's not a good way
to even put it.
Speaker 5 (01:22):
But I think being mad about it is right, like
not mad that we're not watching football, but mad that
this kind of thing happens.
Speaker 6 (01:29):
Mad that people continue to do things like this.
Speaker 5 (01:33):
So I'm frustrated by that, and I'm a little bit
bummed because Ohio State Oregon was supposed to be a great,
awesome thing for us to watch on New Year's and
it turned out to basically be not worth watching after
the first quarter, with all due respect to anybody who
you know, you know, had a dog in the fight.
(01:54):
In the third and the fourth quarter, nobody thought they
were coming back. It was over so fast. It was
somehow even more lopsided than the Tennessee game, Like it
felt like Oregon put up less of a fight than
Tennessee did. And so I was I'm a little miffed. Actually,
at least we got a good finish to the first game.
But I am seeing again instant classic No that game
(02:15):
I sent you a text early in.
Speaker 6 (02:16):
The fourth quarter and said, what a boring football game?
Like it just was.
Speaker 5 (02:20):
It was not interesting and not fun to watch at all.
And then you got an awesome finish. You got a
great you know, last ten minutes of the fourth quarter
or so somewhere in that neighborhood, and then you got
the overtimes, and so you got all of that. I'm
still not ever going to call that a great game,
but I'm glad that we got the last like fifteen
to twenty minutes of drama.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
Yeah, so let's dive in.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
And obviously, as j mar just said, there is no
late evening college football, as Chris Purphett told you earlier
as well. Obviously, tragedy early early early this morning on
Bourbon Street the Sugar Bowl, which was set to kick
off at eight forty five Eastern, has been postponed until
Thursday afternoons.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
So obviously there is no late game.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
So the three games of the college football Quarterfinals are official,
with Penn State winning on New Year's Eve, and then,
of course, earlier today, Texas in two overtime surviving Arizona State,
which we'll talk about in a minute, but do think
probably jmark the right place to start, even though there
isn't you know, as much to break down as we anticipated.
Ohio State just laying the wood to Oregon final scoring
(03:28):
this one forty one to twenty one. And for people
that were doing stuff on New Year's Day. By the way,
Rob Parker just signed off with this sentiment and I
want to share it as well. We appreciate everybody tuning
in to us. You know, we know that not everybody
has the holiday off. Some of you are working, you're traveling.
Certainly on a day like today, you're in the car,
so we're taking you till two am Easter.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
We're going to keep you entertained.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
And obviously it goes without saying our thoughts are with
everybody in New Orleans over just the insanity that happened
earlier today.
Speaker 5 (04:00):
That dwarfs anything that we're about to do, as a
matter of fact, by by a wide, wide margin. There's
no way we can do it justice. It just it
just stinks. There's nothing else, there's nothing else to say about.
It's just that our thoughts and our prayers and everything
is with the officials and everybody that are trying to
get to the bottom of what's happened, trying to make
sure everyone is safe, and of course the families of
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the victims. Just I can't even imagine, can't even fathom
what you were going through, truly, And if you.
Speaker 6 (04:30):
Are listening, I'm sure you're not.
Speaker 5 (04:31):
But if anybody down there that has had a really
tough day happens to be listening right now, I hope
that we find a way to entertain you and maybe
take your mind off it for a couple of seconds.
But I hate, I really truly hate that we are
not on air in this window, with this live football
game in front of us, because of the worst of humanity.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
Don't disagree, don't disagree again. The Sugar Bowl postpone until
relocal time. That would be for eastern on Thursday. That
will be Notre Dame Georgia, and we'll actually talk a
little bit about that game later on in the show.
Let's stick with the Ohio State Oregon Rose Bowl game.
Did just go final probably about a half or hour
or so ago. The final score, excuse me, excuse me,
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is as I said, it's forty one to twenty one.
But I think that scores even a little bit deceptive
j Mart because it was thirty four off the Ohio State.
Oregon scores a touchdown in two point conversion right before
the half, but as you said, there was never really
a moment. I guess Oregon did score to make it
thirty four to fifteen about the middle of the third quarter.
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But even when they scored, I thought Kirk Kurbstreet and
Chris Fowler, who have taken a lot of heat the
last couple weeks, for some of the stuff they said
during the last Ohio State game, I actually thought they
brought up a good point. They said, it's great that
you scored, but oh, by the way, you took almost
half of the third quarter to do it, and the
defense hasn't proven an ability to stop Ohio State's offense.
And so just a few minutes later, Ohio State's scores
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to go at forty one to fifteen, and that was
basically all she wrote. There are so many angles that
we can talk about on this game.
Speaker 6 (06:09):
I'll just start.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
You know, you know New Year knew me, you know
Ryan Day, I'm a believer now for people who listen
to our normal show, Jason and i Aron from eleven
pm to two am Eastern every Saturday, and obviously in
that window, especially in the fall, we talk a ton
of college football. I've been critical of Ryan Day. Jay
Mart's been critical of Ryan Day. But I'll say this,
Ja Mart. Even this past weekend when we were working,
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he said, listen, I've seen a lot from Ohio State.
You know, I'm starting to become a believer. I was
still in the camp of Listen, we've seen Ryan Day
coach a singular, individually good game. We haven't seen Ohio
State kind of put it together. Well, today is what
putting it together looks like. Today is what building upon
another dominant win a week ago against Tennessee looks like.
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And today is what this team that Vegas has had
as the favorite since before or the season started, has
supposed to look like all along. It took a while
to get there, but the bottom line remains, this is
a twelve team playoff era. You can lose a game,
you can lose two games, maybe even three depending on
who you are, and still get into this college football playoff.
Speaker 6 (07:14):
Well, Ohio State.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
Is not only in, but they look like the dominant
force after a dominant victory in a second round game
against Oregon, obviously a team that they lost too earlier
this year.
Speaker 5 (07:25):
I mean, like four plays into the game, it's fourteen
to nothing, and it just the two teams could not
have looked more different. And your point about Ryan Day,
I don't know what this means for him long term.
I do think that Chip Kelly has certainly gotten better
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in the last couple of games, no doubt. Finally he
has started to figure it out in terms of what
he wants to do with his talent and how they've
been utilizing it. So that's helped. The defense has really
woken up. That money has been well spent all of
a sudden, but we knew the talent that they had.
Speaker 6 (08:02):
I think now there is an argument to.
Speaker 5 (08:05):
Be made that you better go win the National Championship
because nobody should beat the team that I've seen play
their last two football games. And I am still baffled
by how you lost to Michigan, Like just I don't
understand it in any reok way.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Listen, we have to acknowledge, like, wow, whatever went wrong
against Michigan, that coaching staff figured it out, But it's
also like, how did you lose to Michigan? And by
the way, I know, Michigan beat Alabama in a bowl
game on New Year's Eve. I don't care. It's like,
how did that?
Speaker 5 (08:39):
Like?
Speaker 6 (08:39):
One?
Speaker 3 (08:40):
Just first of all, Jeremiah Smith, the true freshman, he
was the offensive MVP in this game. Seven catches, one
hundred and eighty seven yards, two touchdowns. I saw Dan Brugler,
a longtime NFL draft experts, that he believes there would
be an argument for Jeremiah Smith, a true freshman, to
be the first over all pick in this year's draft
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if he were draft dollible. See he's not eligible, how
about this until the twenty twenty seven NFL Draft. Yeah,
but I just bring it up because listen, if you're
an Ohio State fan, I know it's in the rearview mirror.
I know you want to celebrate your team looking the
way that we thought. But I'll be hout of JMRT.
A part of me still the two best games maybe
Friday's career, And I still go back to that Saturday
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in Columbus and just say, how did you lose to Michigan?
So I didn't mean to cut you off, but it's
just still like you can't not talk about Michigan, especially
where the team has looked the last few weeks.
Speaker 5 (09:35):
Yeah, and look I think there's a lot of Michigan
fans that would say the same thing and wonder how
they beat them. Like I mean, when you really look
at it, Davis Warren had sixty two yards passing in
that game for Michigan, and then I look at Jeremiah
Smith five catches, thirty five yards.
Speaker 6 (09:49):
They barely even targeted the guy.
Speaker 5 (09:52):
He had five catches in no time in this game,
and he had like one hundred and sixty yards and
a couple of touchdowns, and he just looked like not
just the best player on the field, but the best
player in recent memory in college football, perhaps just in
terms of just everything that he brings to the table
and what he's going to be doing on the next
level is going to be insanity. But that's where I get,
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and I don't want to do anything but say that
Ohio State is showing why everyone was so high on
them before the season and why I had them.
Speaker 6 (10:26):
I believe in my.
Speaker 5 (10:27):
Final game losing to Texas, which now, first off, it's
going to be in the Semis, but past that, I
don't see how Texas is going to be able to
score on their defense, because that's the other side of it,
is the defense Now, there were a couple of moments
in this game, right, So it was it was thirty
four to fifteen, like you mentioned, and they actually forced
Ohio State to punt and Oregon got the ball back said, okay,
(10:51):
all right, now if you go down and you score again,
get a two point conversion. Now we're looking at a
little bit more of an interesting game here. This is
Dylan Gabriel. This is this a high powered Oregon offense.
Let's see what they can do. They had back to
back plays before they ended up punting it away, and
then Ohio State scored again and it was over where
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they showed it.
Speaker 6 (11:13):
They put the camera behind the offense.
Speaker 5 (11:16):
They put it behind Dylan Gabriel by about ten yards
and we saw the play after the snap, and of
course Herb Street is breaking it down.
Speaker 6 (11:23):
But I'm just watching it.
Speaker 5 (11:25):
I'm not even listening to what's happening because my daughter
is very loud at three years old, so I'm not
even able to really pick up on the nuance of
what he's saying.
Speaker 6 (11:33):
But I'm looking at it.
Speaker 5 (11:34):
And I'm just saying, where is Dylan Gabriel supposed to
throw the ball? Like there is no one open? And
they do it on multiple plays in a row. They
show this same camera angle and you can see no
one's running free, no one has any space whatsoever. Like
they that defense right there, there is no one that
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should be able to score on them. And I look
at Texas and I'm like, good luck against that secondary,
especially with the guys that they have up front, as
well the Texas offense that I have seen for the
better part of this season and certainly the last couple
of weeks, that defense, that offense might not be able
to get into double digits against this Ohio State team.
Speaker 6 (12:16):
Yeah, it's really interesting.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
FanDuel has has released an early point spread Ohio State
a two and a half point favorite over Texas on
a neutral field.
Speaker 6 (12:27):
We'll break down that Texas.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
ASU game a little bit from now, because man, oh man,
oh man. Was that not only a crazy game, but
I think there's also a conversation we had J Martin
about exactly what you just said, which is, you know,
Texas three or four weeks ago maybe look like a
team that could compete with anybody. I don't think they
can if Ohio State is playing the way that they
did here on New Year's Eve nights. So Ra Torres,
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Jason Martin. We are broadcasting live from the Tireck dot
Com studios, filling in for Jason Smith and Mike Harmon.
Tell you what we'll do. We'll come back when we
come back. I do want to bring on a guy
who knows the Ohio State program very well. So Joshua
Perry played for Urban Meyers twenty fourteen national championship team.
He now does commentary for NBC Sports. He's going to
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discuss what the heck is the difference with Ohio State,
how did they figure things out? And is can anybody
beat him at this point? Because it's looking just about impossible.
Ertors Jason Martin fill in for Jason Smith and Mike
harmon Fox Sports TRITI.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
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Speaker 3 (13:36):
Welcome in Everybody, hour two. This is the Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon. Jason and Mike are out erin
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tire buying should be. There is no late college football
game today. As Chris Perfecchius told you, the Sugar Bowl
has been postponed until Thursday at four pm Eastern, obviously
following the tragedy in New Orleans. Jason Martin and I
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certainly speak for the entire Fox Sports Radio family when
we say that our thoughts are with everybody in New Orleans,
every family that was impacted by this senseless attack. You
know you don't need us to tell you how how
you know how awful everything is on Our job is
keep you entertained until two am Eastern to talk a
lot of college football and NFL along the way, Have
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you missed any of our one We talked a lot
of Rose Bowl. Josh Perry from NBC Sports former Ohiose
State Buckeye joined us.
Speaker 4 (14:46):
Do you want to switch gears? JMRT to the.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
Early game and the way you framed it to lead
the show I think is accurate. U don't know that
you would have called it a great game through about
two and a half quarters or three and a half orders.
Excuse me, because with let's take a look here, with
about eight minutes left in the fourth quarter, Texas was
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up twenty four to eight in this game. This is
the Peach Bowl. I'm of course talking about Texas versus
Arizona State. Texas, a fourteen and a half point favorite,
jumped out early, They scored early, and then a punt
return put them up fourteen to nothing. The fourteen three
excuse me, and he kind of just thought, Okay, the
game's over. They're up twenty four to eight in the
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fourth quarter. Back to back Arizona State touchdowns and then
also two point conversions did lead to overtime. Now, of course,
we got to overtime in a very interesting manner, as
there was a very questionable, to say the least, non
call on a targeting play. Arizona State was driving with
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the ball late in the game, about under two minutes
to go. At that point, they are right right around
the time out in college football. Bring it up because
there was a very questionable targeting call. It forced an
Arizona State punt. Arizona State punts it to Texas Texas
gets the ball back Bert Auburn. The Texas kicker misses
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a field goal thirty eight yards as time expires to
force overtime. Texas does win in two overtimes. Jason, we
could take in any direction you wanted. I just want
to set it up because again Arizona State was down
twenty four to eight, needed two touchdowns to two point conversions,
and then had the ball before that questionable non call
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on a targeting So Texas wins in overtime.
Speaker 4 (16:40):
Texas survives, and there is a lot to react to.
Speaker 5 (16:43):
I don't know what to make of the game as
a whole. Certainly it got really interesting late and you
started seeing some wild stuff and Scatabo starts making plays
all over the place, running the ball, throwing the ball.
He's jawing at the camera the way he was jawing
during the week. You either love him or hate him.
I think he comes across a little obnoxious, but I
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get it. I gonna understand he plays with confidence and
he has that an unbelievable season. But watching the first
you know, seven eight minutes of that game, you look
at it and you say, all right, well, we're not
gonna be watching this one for very long, looks like
it's over. They can't move the ball at all on Texas.
Texas scores without even trying, basically, and they're up a
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couple of touchdowns and you're just waiting for this thing
to be blowout city and we.
Speaker 6 (17:30):
Can move on, and then it ends up not being.
Speaker 5 (17:34):
And I look at this and I'm like, yeah, Texas won,
but they feel that they lost to me because so
they de facto have a home game against Ohio State.
Speaker 6 (17:43):
I mean, it's being played in.
Speaker 5 (17:44):
Austin, Dallas, Dallas, Sorry, it's being played in their home state.
And they're like a five and a half point dog now,
and you get three at home in general, and I'm
not even sure most people think they're going to keep
it within single digits. I understand it's Texas SEC all
this kind of stuff, but there's nothing. I didn't think
they looked that great against Clemson. They look better than Clemson,
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but not like all world. The defense did pretty well,
but Klebnick had a nice game. And then here they
should have stepped on, you know, just stepped on Arizona
State once they took that two touchdown lead, and they
just couldn't do it.
Speaker 6 (18:20):
They couldn't put them away.
Speaker 5 (18:21):
Now, credit to Dillingham, and they did some crazy stuff
where you know, you go for that fake on fourth,
which I thought was a really good decision because they
had to do something. And but you look up and
that game should not have ended up that way, and
you look at the targeting call, and anybody that thinks
that that was not targeting, I don't think there needs
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to be a rule then, Like that's as clear.
Speaker 6 (18:46):
That's as clear as targeting as you will ever see.
Speaker 5 (18:48):
So you either call it there or never call it
again for any reason whatsoever. Either way, Arizona State could
have easily won this game and they shouldn't have been
anywhere near it based on how this. So I look
at that, and if I'm sarkesy and I'm saying, what
happened to my football team? Or I got exposed, because
there is nothing about the Texas offense right now that
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frightens me at all. If I am Notre Dame's defense,
Georgia's defense, Who've already seen them a couple of times,
and certainly not Ohio State's defense, which looks like the
best unit in the country right now. So I look
at Texas and I just say, I don't know that
you deserve to be there by the way Penn State's
defense either, like there is no defense remaining.
Speaker 6 (19:31):
That should be afraid of them at all, and I
look at yours.
Speaker 5 (19:34):
I don't know that it's different right now with Arch,
but I know what the ceiling is with quinn Ewers,
and there's nothing right now that tells you that they
are going to be able to move the football consistently
through the air or on the ground. Honestly against these
other teams. This could be the defense having to do
a lot of heavy lifting. Takeaways is going to be
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the way that Texas stays in these games, and that
I just don't think that's that does not look like
a path to success for me. I think Texas has
won their last game of the year. I just I
just do. I think they're walking into a BUZZSA against
Ohio State. But I'm not sure that right now the
Texas that we were watching Aaron could beat any of
the teams that are left.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
So let's dive into a couple of things. First of all,
a couple of things. First of all, the targeting call
was non call was egregious, and you know every Texas
fan in America will tell you it was the right call.
Speaker 4 (20:28):
And because of this no, no, as you.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
Said, if that's not targeting, then I don't there just
shouldn't be a rule.
Speaker 4 (20:35):
So there's that element of it.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
I was happy, and you know, I'm not happy that
Texas missed a field goal. I'm not rooty against Texas's kicker,
but I'm glad that that did not decide the game.
I don't think it's the reason why Arizona State lost.
Arizona State, by the way, their kicker has been up
and down all year. Their kickers plural have been up
and down all year, and so I only bring that
up to say that even if they got the call,
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there's no guarantee that the kicker makes the field goal.
I'm glad that it wasn't decided in that manner. Credit
to Arizona State, by the way. By the way, before
we get to the Texas side, let's just take half
a second. Arizona State. That was awesome, And you know,
I just think it was kind of an important result
for all of the narratives and where the powers that
be in college football want to take the sport, which
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is just basically it's a default.
Speaker 4 (21:24):
No, the SEC and the Big Ten are better than everybody.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
Else, and it's like, well, we've watched the SEC this
postseason that ain't the case. And so I think there
were a lot of people that were kind of just
lumping in Arizona State as, Oh, they're this feel good
story that you know, listen, they're only in because because
they did win their conference, but they prove that they
are competitive with obviously an elite SEC team or whatever.
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You know, I don't know if anyone in the SEC's
elite this year, but you kind of get the point.
So want to give credit to Arizona State. But I
do think I agree with you that the more interesting
conversation going forward and really even tonight is Texas, and
just so much stands out by the way they are
showing the targeting non targeting on.
Speaker 4 (22:09):
TV right now. It is such a bad non call.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
But anyway, by the way, producer Shay Savior Arizona State thoughts,
because we're gonna bring you in here to rep this
segment in just a minute, okay, But.
Speaker 4 (22:21):
With Texas, I'm with you, J mart Is.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
You know, I even tweeted this during the game, and
I know you're not on social media anymore. But basically
Texas's game plan really the last about five weeks outside
of Clemson. By the way, Clemson's defense was terrible this year.
Outside of Clemson, Texas's game plan has basically been get
a small lead, hope that the defense plays absolutely incredible,
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and then just try to run out the clock. I mean,
remember they beat Arkansas twenty to ten late in the
season the Kentucky game. I remember watching that game. The
final score in that one was thirty one to fourteen,
and it feels like it was that's not a close score.
Go back and look, Texas barely threw the ball in
that game, finish the game with almost three hundred yards
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rushing and forty six rush attempts, And so it was
basically the same game plan in that game as this one.
And then obviously the SEC Championship game we remember where
they it felt like they should have been up by
a million and they just couldn't put points on the board.
So I only bring it up to say, I am
with you is that this defense is special. You know,
the run game up until today had been pretty good.
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Let's just say what, Let's just have the conversation now
and By the way, we'll have the bigger picture of
Quinn you wers conversation about ten minutes from now. But
the small picture is I don't think you can win
a national championship with them, not with the teams that
you are gonna face in the next two games or
potentially in the next two games.
Speaker 4 (23:46):
I don't think you can do it.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
I don't know if this is a sign that arch
Manning isn't ready, or this is just a sign that
Steve Sarkisian is not going to bail on a guy
that has been in his program for three years and
help elevate the program. I don't know why sark has
been kind of KOI and not answering questions about it,
but I just prayed it up to very simply say
I'm with you, j Martina.
Speaker 6 (24:05):
It took me a long time to get there.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
But the point I'm trying to make is I don't
know what it is about Quinn yours and why a
move hasn't been made, but I don't think that you
can win a national championship.
Speaker 4 (24:16):
If he is your quarterback.
Speaker 6 (24:17):
He's just.
Speaker 5 (24:20):
Whatever that factor is that when you watch somebody you.
Speaker 6 (24:23):
Can see it. He just doesn't have it.
Speaker 5 (24:26):
It's not that he's bad, it's that he's so average
in so many different ways, and you can't be average.
Speaker 6 (24:35):
In this sport.
Speaker 5 (24:36):
You just can't and win at that level. It's not
as if we're watching the greatest quarterback play we've ever
seen across the board in college football this year.
Speaker 6 (24:45):
We're not. We're talking about a week draft.
Speaker 5 (24:47):
We're talking about all of those kinds of things and
young guys making decisions at twenty.
Speaker 6 (24:51):
Years old and things of that nature.
Speaker 5 (24:52):
But like we've watched this years experiment, and I actually
think coming out of last year there was reason to
feel like he was going to come in be really
good this year, and it just hadn't been there. It's
not that it's been terrible, it's just not been great
and it needs to be great at Texas. And if
you're Sork and you're saying you don't want to bail
on him, like you were mentioned that, maybe that's his
thought process here, I get it, but not really, because
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your job, Steve trying to win win the national championship.
It's not to be loyal to anybody. Your job is
to put the best football team out there that can
win for you today and There've been a couple of
times this season when you have taken Quinn you were
was out and put in arch manning because you weren't
sure that you were going to be able to get
the job done. And let's be real here, if Arizona
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State's secondary doesn't completely blow it on fourth down, we're
having a much different conversation here. Viewers did make a play,
but that was because of all time terrible secondary play
from Arizona State on that one step where they let
the one guy you can't let get behind you get
behind you, and that turns into about as easy a
(25:58):
touchdown throw that you're gonna have a f you're viewers.
He had time and this guy was running wide open,
and all he had to do was put it in
his hands, and that's exactly what he did.
Speaker 6 (26:06):
They were one play away from losing.
Speaker 5 (26:08):
Like that's how close it was for a Texas team
that had no business losing in that scenario to lose
to Arizona State, who they had beaten down and demoralized
in the first half of that game and then couldn't
finish off and then let them wake up and let
them get confident and cocky and arrogant and everything else,
and it almost cost them. So now you're going to
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go in against the Ohio State and quinn Ewers is
going to be the savior.
Speaker 6 (26:34):
I have a hard.
Speaker 5 (26:35):
Time seeing that strategy, and of course there's time to change,
but it certainly does not feel like Steve Sarkisian is
going to make that move now, and I think it
might be an all time blunder because, as I've said before,
I don't believe in a window you're two games away
from a national championship, do what you can to win
it this year because you have no idea what's going
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to happen over the course of the next twelve months.
There's a lot of life, there's a lot of decisions,
there's a lot of youth that has to make decisions,
and there are a lot of other teams that are
having guys making decisions, and all of them are really
good at football too. You've got a shot right now.
Whatever you think is your best chance to win, go
with that.
Speaker 6 (27:16):
And maybe you would just say we're idiots and it's
still quinn Ewers.
Speaker 5 (27:20):
But I'm sorry, I don't think the ceiling of quinn
Ewers right now is a national championship. I think it's
a college football playoff semi final by the skin.
Speaker 6 (27:27):
Of his teeth.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
Producer Shae is a proud Arizona State alum. I'd be
remiss if I didn't give you just a couple minutes.
We don't have a ton of time, Shay, but your
takes on your team, your school, your football team. But
also you know that non targeting call that that did
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not happen all around.
Speaker 7 (27:51):
I'm proud of the boys. It went out of there,
put it out on the field. I'm very proud of them,
But I'm not the type to say this felt like
a win, because it did not feel like a win
at all for me. I was very upset from the outcome.
I definitely think, not only at first, was it stolen
from us. But then I'm not even upset about the
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no targeting call. I'm more upset about when we had
them in the first overtime.
Speaker 4 (28:20):
To a play.
Speaker 6 (28:21):
Yeah, broke, That's what I'm saying. That fourth down plays it.
Speaker 5 (28:23):
Man, you make one one one play on your defense
right there, and you are celebrating right.
Speaker 7 (28:29):
Now, And it was our fault. That was our fault,
that was completely our fault. It was broken coverage and
that's the one thing. When that happened, I was like,
all right, we lost. We lost the game, and I
don't want to say anything, but in the back of
my head, I was like, all right, we lost the game,
and we did lose the game from then on, if
no one saw that, but I know, I definitely I'm
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happy with the season that we had and obviously like
we're we have a freshman quarterback who's going to be
with us, hopefully for a long time. This is I
don't think this is going to be the end at all.
I think I think definitely this is like a building
block for a su So that's that's I'm more thinking.
I was definitely thinking future the entire time. I was
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watching this game, almost thinking, wow, we're actually keeping up
with Texas beating Texas, and we should have beat Texas
if you want to go into the conspiracies and all that.
But no, I I I'm excited for the season, very
disappointed in the in the actual game.
Speaker 5 (29:31):
I was going to point out one thing about Levitt.
Levitt and Madson, both for Arizona State and Boise. Both
of them played pretty well, pretty well, Like you consider
that you're coming in there and they're going to make
you try to beat them because they're going to put everybody.
I mean, Penn State sold out for four quarters against
Astian Genty and then you saw the same thing against Scatibo.
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But I thought that both those quarterbacks answered the bell
and and made some plays that I'm I'm not sure
going in a lot of people in the country would
have presumed they would have made.
Speaker 6 (30:04):
I came way.
Speaker 5 (30:05):
I didn't look at the turnovers as much because I
know that Madison was trying to make a lot of
plays late and so he was throwing into some danger
for some emergency routes and things like that.
Speaker 6 (30:15):
I just thought, I think both of them deserve credit.
Speaker 5 (30:17):
Because everything was placed on them because they were not
going to let those two running backs beat them.
Speaker 6 (30:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
Scatibo, by the way, was unfreaking believe one. I know,
early game, yes, but like I mean, what was it
the two point conversion? I mean there was a play
where he got hit about three yards from the goal line,
and I I because you know, by the end of
the Dame line, yeah, Jbar, I can't speak for you.
By the end of the game, I was rooting for Asu.
I think most of America was I was too, and
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there was one play where Scatibo got hit. He had
to get hit about the four yard line, and I
kind of did that quick reaction turn around. Why did
they run it up the middle? And then I turned
back around and the ref's arms are up and it
was either a touchdown or a conversion. I forget it
was one of the two point versions, or maybe it
was the overtime touchdown score, but I was like, this
guy was unbel obviously, you know, pass for a touchdown
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had that great reception, you know, uh, you know, it's
just like you said, yeah, I you know, listen, nobody
does moral victories at this level. But it's like man,
oh man, oh man. And then to your to your
both of your points that I probably should have pointed
out earlier, it really, you know, for people who didn't
watch the game, Arizona was one play away from from
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winning the game. Unfortunately, it goes to a second overtime
where texts where Texas gets the one by way. I
think I said Arizona was one play, but it was
obviously Arizona State. I by said Arizona anyway.
Speaker 7 (31:37):
Definitely, there's been so many mess ups too leading up
to this game all week, everyone's calling them the Wildcats fired.
There was so many like, so many things would be
like showing the Wildcats, and that happened so much this James.
Speaker 3 (31:54):
I was just gonna say, Arizona got certainly some interesting
news today.
Speaker 6 (31:58):
But Bryce James Brownie Lebron.
Speaker 7 (32:00):
Yeah Lebron.
Speaker 6 (32:01):
Yeah, I heard he's already a lottery pick.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
Yeah, I know we have any Lakers fans still in
the building. Rob Gara here to break down the twenty
twenty eight roster. Forty three year old Lebron Bronni Bryce.
Speaker 5 (32:13):
He say he's gonna be playing for five to seven more.
He said he could play for five to seven more.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (32:17):
I hate to say this, but my initial reaction to
that was, please don't like. I really like watching Lebron
play basketball.
Speaker 5 (32:23):
I'm also kind of ready to see Lebron move on
to the next phase of his life.
Speaker 6 (32:27):
Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 3 (32:29):
So Bryce James commits to Arizona, Arizona State, which.
Speaker 6 (32:33):
I have a tripped up on.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
So I gotta take the l Arizona State loses a
heartbreaker in the Peach Bowl. And now, yeah, for those
people who do think the SEC there's some conspiracy theories
to get their teams to advance. They certainly got some
ammunition in that one. Arizona State falls in double overtime
to Texas. This is The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harma.
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Speaker 4 (32:58):
Till two a m. Easter in time.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
Tell you what, Jason, We're not going to finish the
Texas conversation cause quinn Ewers, who we've just been bashing
for the last twenty minutes.
Speaker 4 (33:10):
Uh, he might be.
Speaker 3 (33:11):
He might be in for a pretty big payday and
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As I just told you, eritors, Jason Martin, taking you
up till two am Eastern time. College football is final
to college football quarterfinals on New Year's Day one, on
New Year's even of course, the Sugar Bowl, which would
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have been ending right about now, unfortunately tragically, has been
postponed until Thursday at four pm Eastern time because of
the senseless tragedy in New Orleans. Speak for everybody at
Fox Sports Radio when I say that myself, Jason Martin,
everybody here at Fox Sports Radio. Our thoughts are with
everybody in New Orleans and of course the families that
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have been impacted again by the senseless tragedy in New
Orleans on New Year's Day morning, and we're gonna try
to entertain you here till two am Eastern time. I
do want to get back to a conversation that we
had earlier in the show, Jay mart Ohio State, So
Ohio State of course goes to the Rose Bowl coming
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off that great win against Tennessee. But I don't want
to say you, but I did a lot of people,
including me, said, Okay, it was great win against Tennessee,
but you were at home for three weeks. You heard
how terrible you were after you lost to Michigan. It's
gonna be an different deal fac in Oregon in the
Rose Bah.
Speaker 4 (35:10):
Oregon's different. They already beat you.
Speaker 3 (35:12):
They're a really good team, they're undefeated Big Ten champion,
and those Ohio State buck guys better watch out.
Speaker 5 (35:18):
Well.
Speaker 3 (35:18):
As it turns out, it should have been Oregon that
was watching out because that game was over basically as
soon as it started. Oregon jumped out or Ohio State
jumped out to a thirty four nothing lead over Oregon.
Oregon scores a touchdown in extra two point conversion just
before halftime. They did score to cut the score to
forty thirty four to fifteen about midway through the third quarter,
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but it would never really get closer than that. Ohio
State scores just a few minutes later, they go up
forty one to fifteen. They cruise to a forty one
twenty one victory over over Oregon. I think there's a
lot of conversations to have here, j Mark, but I
think it just starts point blank. Where did this come
from from Ohio State because the last two weeks they
have looked like the team that he thought was the
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best team in college football coming into the year.
Speaker 5 (36:03):
I mean, it's just I guess here's the thing. As
long as it shows up in time, I guess it
doesn't matter. The Michigan situation notwithstanding, I mean, that's just
an awful loss, and it looks worse and more baffling
by the week or even by the day when you
start to look at what Ohio State's done over these
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past couple of games. But I mean, Dan Lanning after
the game after the Rose Bowl basically just said they
kicked our rear ends completely, like he made zero excuses,
even said I'm not gonna make excuses. They clicked tonight
and we didn't, and I didn't get our team prepared.
So I mean he took it all like he said, Nope,
we weren't prepared to play. They were better than us.
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He said, they were clicking on all cylinders. We really
didn't have the ability to stop them, and we didn't
have the ability to get something going for us on offense.
Speaker 6 (36:56):
That's the quote from Dan Lanning.
Speaker 5 (36:58):
The team that played them Tennessee like Tennessee's pretty good
football team. Ohio State made them look bad in that game.
My wife, we're watching the first half of the rose ball.
She's a Tennessee fan, and she said, she says like, man,
I feel a little bit better, And I bet a
lot of Tennessee fans said the same thing, because sometimes
you watch a team beat your team and you say, man,
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I hope.
Speaker 6 (37:20):
They go win it all, and that might.
Speaker 5 (37:23):
Be exactly what you're about to see Oregon. The problem
for Oregon was they saw Ohio State too fast. So
this is really going to look bad for them because
they didn't have the opportunity to even win a college
football playoff game despite.
Speaker 6 (37:35):
Being the overall number one seed.
Speaker 5 (37:37):
There will be changes made to that in the future,
but Lanning even said he's like, yeah, you know, we
got that we had to play him first, but you're
gonna have to play good.
Speaker 6 (37:44):
Teams at some point in this tournament. And we ran
into one and we got beat.
Speaker 5 (37:48):
And all credit to him for the way that he can,
the way that he talked after this game, take an ownership.
Speaker 6 (37:53):
But I mean this was as thorough a.
Speaker 5 (37:56):
Butt kicking as you're going to see the first half
against Tennessee and the first half against Oregon are two
of the best halves of football I've ever seen a
college football team play like you look at them on
both sides of the ball, offense, defense, Will Howard throwing
dimes to Abuca and certainly to Jeremiah Smith. Jeremiah Smith,
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I had his stats in front of me, just for
these last two games alone, has a Let's see, He's
had two hundred and ninety yards and four touchdowns in
these two games on thirteen receptions.
Speaker 6 (38:31):
He averaged seventeen point two per catch against Tennessee.
Speaker 5 (38:34):
He averaged twenty six point seven against Oregon. He looks
like he's an NFL player that just came back to
play with.
Speaker 6 (38:44):
The young guys.
Speaker 5 (38:46):
Yeah, I mean literally, like he's got an NFL body already,
Like you looked at Marvin Harrison, and Marvin Harrison Junior
was an absolute beast. This is nothing against him, except
that he looked a little bit like he still needed
to grow a little bit in terms of just a
little he wasn't quite as filled out. You look at
Jeremiah Smith and he looks like he already has his
NFL body, like he's ready to go. That you know this, Aaron.
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There's guys that are coming out of college basketball. It's like, well,
he's got to get his NBA body. Jeremiah Smith's ready.
He's six four, two point twenty. He's got incredible lower
body strength, He's got unbelievable hands. If you throw it
in his vicinity, he's going to go up and make
the play. They they're just like, I'm stunned that it
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took this long. But all they have to do is
win two more games than they win the national championship.
And yes, they lost to Michigan, but I do think
that if you win the national championship, you're gonna be okay.
If you're Ryan Day, I will say that now you
have put yourself in a spot where we've seen what
Ohio State should look like.
Speaker 6 (39:48):
So you now have to go ahead and finish this thing.
Speaker 5 (39:51):
Because I don't look at any other team that's left
and feel like they should have a shot to beat
this Ohio State team if they show up the way
they have in the first two rounds of the tournament.
Speaker 3 (40:00):
Well, and that's where I think a lot of the
you know, for I don't, I actually don't think this
is happening. But you know, I think there there can
be some revisionist history of like, well, you know, all
you guys at want to Ryan Day far do you
sure looks silly now? And it's like, I don't really
feel like we're getting that because I think everybody understands
that Ohio State was always capable of playing the way
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that they have the last two games. It's just a
matter of why didn't it come sooner? And so I
think that's exactly what it is, is whatever happened in
those two three weeks after the Michigan game. And I
think part of it is just human nature of like
they probably did hear it, They probably you know, listen,
we we.
Speaker 4 (40:40):
All know how the world is now. It's unavoidable some
of the stuff.
Speaker 3 (40:44):
And you know, it used to just be sports talk
radio what you and I are doing right now, filling
in for Jason Smith and Mike Harmon.
Speaker 4 (40:51):
But now it's it's social media. It's it's it's it's it's.
Speaker 3 (40:54):
Instagram, it's Twitter, it's this, it's that, it's you know,
you can't get away from it. And so I don't
know what it was, but whatever it was, it has
clearly inspired them, and I'm with you.
Speaker 5 (41:04):
Is.
Speaker 3 (41:04):
I just think it's hard for me to see the
scenario where, if they play to their capability, that anyone
really has any chance of beating them going forward. A
couple quick thoughts. One, Jeremiah Smith, you mentioned him. I
just want to put this out there. We referenced Dane Brugler,
who is an NFL draft expert for the Athletic. We
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referenced him earlier when we were talking about Drew Aller,
the quarterback at Penn State. But Dan Brugler during the
broadcast today tweeted out quote, Jeremiah Smith would go number
one in this draft, no doubt in my mind. All
I'll say is, listen, I meant one, it's just a
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hypothetical that we know will never happen.
Speaker 4 (41:47):
He's not eligible, by the way, until the.
Speaker 3 (41:49):
Twenty twenty seven NFL Draft, which just sounds like some
futuristic time that isn't nearly as far away as it
actually sounds like it is. But he's not even eligible
till the twenty twenty seven NFL draw. And But two,
I'm with you, I don't know that at this age
I've ever seen anything, and I know I'm not saying
anything like that. Other people haven't said, but it's like,
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I don't know I've ever seen anybody like him, because,
like you said, there's been guys that have been fast,
there have been guys that have made plays as a freshman,
but he just he just physically looks like a guy
that's twenty six, twenty seven years old.
Speaker 4 (42:24):
And you know, I think you mentioned it.
Speaker 3 (42:26):
In a tweet or in a text to me, but
it's like if he was eligible right now, I just
don't know how many guys, how many how many teams
in the NFL, And it sounds crazy, but I don't
think it's hYP hyperbole. How many teams in the NFL
feel like they have a guy at wide receiver one
that's better than him. I mean there's a few, but
there's just not that many. He is a very special player.
Speaker 5 (42:47):
Yeah, I mean, there's nothing to add there. I mean,
he's he's got everything that you want. And Brugler comparing
him to Jones, it's just funny because one of the
things that was said about Julio Jones was so than
that our guests in the first hour said, which is
a reason to go back. By the way, if you
miss any part of this show any day, go listen
to Jason and Mike on the podcast, but certainly check
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us out tonight. But because we had Josh Perry on
who played on the Urban Meyer championship team and works
on Big Ten coverage for the NBC, and he called
Jeremih Smith an alien. And that's what Julio Jones was
referred to a lot at Alabama. He was called an alien.
And if you're being compared to Julio Jones before you
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even enter the NFL draft, this is the first time,
like you have this argument once in a while where
all these asuals. I mean, this guy's got to stay
in school for a couple of more years. And most
of the time it's bluster and it's puffery, and it's
a little bit overdone. In this case, I kind of agree,
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like in this case, it's almost sad that he has
to stay in college.
Speaker 6 (43:58):
It really is. There have been like Trevor Lawrence.
Speaker 5 (44:02):
I remember we had this conversation about Trevor Lawrence years ago,
even that like you could almost see he still needed time.
Jeremih Smith needs nothing, but Jeremiah Smith just needs a
needs A needs the ability.
Speaker 6 (44:13):
To be drafted.
Speaker 5 (44:15):
And Dame Bruggler is right, like he would leap off
this board. The New England Patriots would run to the
podium to draft Jeremiah Smith if they had the opportunity
to do so.
Speaker 6 (44:26):
In this draft, they're not going to.
Speaker 5 (44:28):
But whoever gets drafted, all due respect to the receivers
that will be draftable in this draft, you're gonna be
looking at the dude that you can't get, like, why
can't we get him?
Speaker 6 (44:37):
Like can we at least put a pre order down
on him so that.
Speaker 5 (44:40):
When he's available, we can just come to the store
and pick him up. Because that dude is NFL.
Speaker 6 (44:46):
Ready right now. So I'll tell you what, ja Mart.
Speaker 3 (44:50):
We are going to spend the next segment kind of
previewing the Texas Jet Texas Ohio State game. But since
I think both of us have made it pretty clear
that if Texas plays the way that they did against
Arizona State, and frankly, the way they've played most of
the last five or six weeks, they're not gonna win,
maybe we come back and talk a little bit of
NFL Draft because you and I are on air on
Saturday nights, and I think we went through all the
(45:11):
scenarios with cam Ward last week and Shador Sanders and
all that, and then of course everybody wins except the
New England Patriots. And now they got the number one pick,
and so maybe we come back talk a little NFL draft.
Those two quarterbacks at the top, a team that does
not need the quarterback and does not need a quarterback,
excuse me? And what do they do and what has
become a very interesting NFL draft going forward. Aaron Torres,
(45:34):
Jason Martin. We are filling in for Jason Smith and
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