April 14, 2023 • 45 mins
Jason and Steve discuss the huge news about Dan Snyder finally selling the Commanders today, and more information on Aaron Rodgers as he still is Packer and negotiations are getting interesting.
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tire buying should be now. Steve Desager, fresh off a
stat run the last couple of days of figuring out
what Max Munsees average home run RBIs would be if
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he played every game against the Giant, every game. We
talked about him a couple of days ago, and then
he just goes off on him again last night. So
ninety seven home runs, two hundred and four RBI, and
a four fifty seven batting average. Right, if he played
with every game against the Giant, it was already realistically
sixty homers a year if he faced San Francisco all
the games throughout the summer. Oh, I know where the
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Giants are going in free agency whenever, whenever we could
get a chance. Yes, we gotta go get Muncy. He's
doing that against us. We gotta go get him. Of
course he won't get to bat against Giants pitching that way,
but sure, go ahead, go for it. No, no, no,
And look and it being Max Muncie with the Dodgers
having tonight off, like he's easily a guy that you
can see tomorrow going, Oh where are the Dodgers tomorrow? Ohkah,
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they got the Cubs. Oh he'll go over five five strikeouts,
like sure, yeah, yeah, versus not a three hundred hitter, ladies,
and a lot of power, but sure, so you go
and platinum Sombarrow. Oh yeah, if I can, if I
can always predict home runs in six RBI for every
Max Muncie game against the Giants. I will give you
over five platinum sombrero against the Cups tomorrow night. Silver sambrero,
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golden sumbrero. Yeah. Oh, three strikeouts, four strikeouts in a game,
five strikeouts, six strikeous. Whatever you get to, whatever you
get to. What's after platinum? Steve, has that been done?
It felt like uranium. It's like, well, I always going
like gold platinum. It's like the gold records. Ye, Kiss
double platinum, Like that was always the big record growing
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up was Oh the Kiss double platinum is awesome. A
double platinum with kids, Yeah, let's have it double platinum. Yeah,
because it's gold and then it's platinum and then and
that's how I learned it, because of records. It's gold record,
then platinum and then double platinum and then I don't
know what's after that. Yeah, it's Michael Jackson. After that.
I don't know what they do with the record diamond,
like as a diamond is it is. I just remember
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when Alexi Lawless, of course Fox soccer commentator, when he
was playing for the US team, he was in a
band and they asked, hey, you've made a recording, right,
is it very propriate popular? And he said well, I
think we went zinc. He he couldn't pick of anything lower.
It definitely wasn't gold or platinum. That was a zinc records.
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The batting average for Max Munc was has been about
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big night, Major League Baseball. We got more coming up.
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We get thirteen wins by the Rays to set up
or to tie the modern MLB record. There one win
away from absolute baseball history. But make no mistake, today
was a day that is a great day for the NFL.
It's a great day for fans, a great day for
the Washington franchise, as Dan Snyder has reached an agreement
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to sell the Washington Commanders. That includes Josh Harris, who
owns the seventy six ers, and of course Magic Johnson.
They'll get Magic involved by in the command investment business
with him. Yeah, who so so Magic Johnson, I mean
the Magic Johnson Twitter game. Now that we talk about
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the football, Oh my god, that's gonna be amazing. Yes,
the next Tree tweet will be that was a first down?
That will be It's the most obvious twitter. By the way.
This guy who may or may not be buying the Commanders,
there is an agreement to purchase. Of course, there are
a lot of hoops to jump through still, but he
intends to. He intends to buy, just like Aaron Rodgers
intends to be a Jet. You to buy it. I
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read on the rundown for the show tonight that Aaron
Rodgers is still a Green Bay packer, you know, to
pull the curtain back. Frostburg does that every bleep in night.
He puts the rundown together with all our ideas for
the show, and the top story is always Aaron Rodgers
is still a Green Bay packer. Every single day. There's
no first round pick being exchanged in this whopping deal
that's coming. Nope, six Billy six point oh five billion dollars.
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Oh jess the end and the Commanders thing, yeah no, no, no, no,
no, no no, no no, But that's how much the Jets
have to pay Aaron Rodgers for the next two years.
There's six billion dollars. It's what it's own. Um, so
it's not signed, so another group could still come in
and buy the team, but there is a preliminary, non
exclusive agreement to sell. So it's kind of like when
you accept an offer on a house. Hey, we're accepting
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backup bits. Oh wait, the backup it is for more. Hey,
we want that offer instead, Let's go get that offer.
So this would be the richest prize of the most
money ever spent for a sports franchise at six billion dollars,
maybe more than the Broncos recently. Well wait, I mean
this shows you that whenever Forbes values a team at things,
it's like it's ridiculous, like that if the if the
Washington Commanders are six billion, what are the Cowboys twelve billion?
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I just go back to billion dollars. Come in Genie Bus,
the Lakers owner years ago when the Forbes valuation of
the Lakers came out at a billion dollars, and she
was asked for a comment on that, and she says, well,
my dad wouldn't sell it for two billions, so how
much how much are they were? It's a little low,
it's a lot, you know, it's funny, you know, you
say that. And I remember one time I had a
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conversation with Scott Boris um when I was doing Roma's Burning,
when I was at ESPN. I was on the forum
on Roma's Burning, and Boris came in to do the
show as well. So I wasn't yeah, so I was,
So I was. I was a forum guest coming in.
And it was when Jim would throw debate topics that
ed me and somebody else or two people in the forum,
and it would be a guest and Scott Boris was
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the guest. And it was at the time when Boris
was trying to negotiate the big Manny Ramirez contract with
the Dodgers, and it was when everybody, you know, when
he would go through the whole well, you know, more
people come to the game, so there'd be more money
in parking, there'd be more money in this and and
and Manny Ramirez would would would pay for himself basically,
like because of the additions in parking and revenue and
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what you'd make at the concession stands, all this, like
giving Manny Ramires an X amount of dollars would be
he pays for himself. I'm like, okay, I don't know
about that, but I said, Valenzuela did, but not all
years stars. So I said to him, so, this is
when Manny ramires in that huge, unbelievable run with the
Dodgers that is just legendary, when they had Manny would
and everything else. And I said, he said, what do
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you think. I said, well, I'm gonna make you pretty
happy to this. And why, I said, because now this
is going back to when Manny So this is like
the early twenty tens and I or late late two thousands,
early twenty tens. I said, well, I'll make you happy
because I think the Dodgers should give Manny three years
and one hundred million. I mean, right now, you're three
years a million. Go, well, that's pretty low. Why would
you give a god? But back then three years ago
was like no one we're taking. And I said, I'm
gonna say three years on one hundred million. And Boris
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looked me in the eye and he said, well, don't
sell him short. Like he was. He was really like, hey,
I don't know about you going of three years one
hundred million. I might be thinking about more than that.
And this is you know, twelve or thirteen, fourteen years ago,
when Manny Ramirees was Manny Ramieres. He was hitting five
hundred at home run every night. I said three years
and a one hundred million hears ah, I don't sell
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him shorts. I don't sell him short with us. Yeah, well,
you can ask for anything, right, Yeah, we can say no,
but you could ask whatever you want to. But it's
you know, it's you've said this before about other things.
It's worth what people will pay for it. That's exactly
that's what it is. A sports franchise is like a
piece of memorabilia. You can say it's worth X amount
of dollars, but it's really worth whatever someone's going to pay,
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and whatever you pay, that's really where the starting point is. Now,
like okay, so if you pay, that means the franchise
is worth at least six billion and probably more. It's
almost like real estate. When you know, before the you know,
the bottom fell out in real estate became more difficult.
For the longest time, real estate was the biggest investment
because real estate prices just went up. Certain parts of
the country real estate would go up more. But you know,
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you buy a house and if you stay there for
ten years. Hey, guess what. You buy a house for
two hundred and fifty thousand dollars. Ten years later, maybe
it's worth five hundred thousand dollars and you go went
up that much. Yeah, because that's how real estate is.
That's kind of like sports teams are. So you buy
a sports team, the money it goes up from year
to year is ammens. It's never coming back down. In
the NFL, certainly, that's the number one, easily most popular
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sporting league in this country. Yeah, it's a small brotherhood
of people who can buy teams, so the prices just
go up and up. So it's not a surprise, but
something a little different than than what people have talked
about today with Daniel Snyder. And clearly the big headline
is ding Dong the witch is dead. Right, Hey, he's gone.
He's a bad guy. He was bad for the NFL,
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and it's great that he's gone. And I get that,
but you know what, everybody knows that everybody knows. Anybody
could you want to read a column on Fox or
ESPN dot com, you know that that Dan Snyder is
a bad guy, he was a bad owner and he
had to go, right, that's pretty obvious. I think we
know that by now. But when I see fans celebrating
and I see like the commanders celebrating all these different things,
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it's a huge win for fans. But for a different
reason because the celebration going on right now really throughout
the NFL because he's out, but really in DC. I
get it because the only thing that you cannot change
and you will not see change if if it doesn't,
if it doesn't need to, is an owner. Right because
if your team is underachieving and your team is terrible,
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eventually the players or the coaches or the GM's responsible
will be gone and somebody else will be in there.
If you're not happy with your team's manager or head coach,
guess what. You lose a couple of seasons. You got
a new guy coming, right, it may take a couple
of years. We got a new guy coming. You're not
happy with who the first basement is on your team.
Boy got to hit more than fifteen home runs in
one hundred and twenty five game. You're gonna get a
new first basement, right. Your GM is not put together
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a really good team in the NBA, and you're not
with guess what you're gonna get a new GM in
a couple of years. It's going to happen. Everything and
everybody is accountable, from the biggest star to the lowest player,
from the lowest player up to the general manager. That's
the thing. If you have a bad owner, you are stuck.
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You are absolutely stuck. Because a bad owner doesn't matter.
If I don't want to sell the team, I don't
have to sell the team. You're making money, right, I'm
still making money. I don't need as long as I
don't do anything that makes me get pushed out, which
is why it's so rammed. You see this, Daniel Snyder
got pushed out and he had to sell the team.
You never see that. An ownership change is usually I
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want to get out of the business. Hey, why it's
it's it's found money right that. Oh my god, this
guy wants to get out and he was such a
bad owner. Were so lucky. I'm so lucky the Willpon
sold the Mets and Steve Cohen, who says, I don't care,
I'll pay for anything. That's why I'm so glad that
he bought the Mets, because he's such a great owner.
Because I don't care, I'll buy Carlos career. I'll buy
any of these guys. I'll go buy Shohyotani if I
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want to. That's why it's awesome money. Yeah, am I
loving Woody Johnson right now after the story today that
maybe he's nervous about getting Aaron Rodgers. Come on, dude,
we gotta close a deal. But if you have a
bad owner, you're stuck. And if it's an owner, then
and your team is not winning and you're not making
a run to get better, and the good decisions aren't
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being made. They're not being held accountable, right, They're not
being held accountable for your teams sucking on the field.
They're only held accountable if it's something human like this.
And you see all the situations that just make your
your stomach turn that went on with the Commanders, and
it's like, okay, this is why Daniel Snyder is out.
And that's what's so rare about this is that owners
don't get pushed out. It's very very rare to see
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an owner get pushed out to have to sell, you know,
and and so to see this happen now, this is
why commanders fans. Hey, it's a new day for us
because how long did you put up with? Daniel Snyder
owns his team and we're terrible and we don't make
the right decisions, we don't hire the right codes, and
they embarrass us off the field, and I can't even
I can't even wear Washington Commander's gear didn't even have
a name for a year and a half because we
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couldn't come up with something else coming off of redskins,
all of these different things. And so when when you
look at that and go, man, you feel bad because
you're stuck as a fan. But when the owner magically changes,
you gotta count your lucky stars and go, man, we
are really really fortunate because usually an owner doesn't get
pushed out, and if an owner stinks, and owner stinks
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and he's there a long long time. So now the
fact that the what Commanders had this today, that's why
it's a big day of celebration. And he's been there
close to twenty five years running this football team in
Washington or owning it, I should say, running it into
the ground in some respects. And there are still there
is still the investigation of you know, his personal business
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acumen and how he treats people. Let's put it that
way that isn't suddenly dropped. And so if you're another
owner in this NFL coterie of men that are privileged
enough to own NFL franchises, you really don't care what
the purchase price is at this point do you you
want this problem to go away? You want him personally
to go away. So the Snyders are on their way out.
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Things are on their way. It's not being voted on yet.
It's we don't have a written agreement. It is an
agreement to sell that hasn't been delivered to the rest
of the league quite yet. Twitter At how about a fresca?
The Jason Smith's Show with Mike Harmon. Steve de Seger
in for Harmon tonight, say, Hey, when your owner is
a bad owner and he gets out, that is a
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big time lucky day. Understand that doesn't happen and you
get stuck for you I had I had the will
ponds for over twenty years, Steve, and I couldn't stand it.
Now it's like a whole new day, was Steve Cohen,
It's so awesome. Be sure to catch live editions of
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Every night? Right? So? No, we don't no, no, we
don't need this song. Tight Shirt is under this mistaken
the impression that this song is better than it is.
It's great, you know, it's a yeah. It's like it's
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like all honestly, it's like all the Raptors fans out
there right now they keep thinking, oh, man, well we're
still really good and Van Vleet is No, your title
was years ago. Stop, you're a five runner team. Let's
just like what's up. Steve rolled up to the juke
box with a roll a corner. So you're screwed. Well,
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that's that's that's okay, because what I really though, a
you're gonna say was guess what, Jason, what? Well? The
micers are back to tell me the Lakers are of
the Kers are back. They're back. You had them tanking
to play Denver. Come on, they're back. They did for
like three and a half quarters. Don't tell me they didn't.
That was and then a D was taking at the
end with that foul call. At the end of my
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tanking would be them losing. Oh well, hey, they tried
to give the game away. They tried, they tried, they tried,
Minnesota wouldn't take. They're back. Uh so while the Lakers
are back. Yes, a couple big stories out of the
NBA really quick. One best story of the day. Mike
Brown is your NBCA NBA Coach of the Year. I
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hate to say I told you so, but I told
you months ago. He was the coach of the year.
And it's not even close. The NBCA National Basketball Coaches
Association Coach of the Year. In other words, this is
the other head coaches voting on him. Yes, this is
this was named for the former executive director Michael Goldberg.
This is based on a vote of the league's thirty
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head coaches. You can vote for one person and you
can't vote for yourself, which if they would do school
elections that way, I don't know that I would have
become president of my second grade class. How many times
did you vote for yourself? You know? I feel really bad.
You know you got you gotta rip open a huge
wound with me, Steve. Okay, so how much food did
you promise other people to vote for you? No? No?
In second grade, I ran for president against one of
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my best friends, and we were running and we did
this whole thing. We said, Okay, you vote for me
and I'll vote for you. I said that'd be cool,
that'd be cool, and so he he says, I voted
for you. I said, okay, great, and I wouldn't I
voted for me? So I said, I voted for him.
But I really I feel awful about you are a politician,
even at a young age. I did. I kind of knew. Now.
Luckily I didn't win by just one or two votes,
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so it was I was okay, but I still, you know,
till this day, I feel bad. I go boy, but
I kind of wanted to win. I kind of knew
back then I was competitive. I think I knew. I
think that's when I knew. I it's called lying. Actually, no,
learned that. I don't know that it was lying. I think, yes,
actually you said I will vote for you and you
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did not vote for him. That is lying. I think
in politics, lying is different. It's different. Defini not called
lying enough. No, I think I had alternative facts. Now
that fact was I'm not voting for you. That was
the alternative. Now I know who you're running your campaign
was Kelly and Conway with that expression. No, I did
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you give a speech in front of the school, and
did you promise Coca cola and the drinking fountains and
all of that. No, I forget what It was second grade,
so I probably promised, like, you know, another five minutes
of recess. I don't know, something that I probably couldn't give, which, again,
what politicians do. I promised something they can't give. So
I think I kind of did that. But I was
happy to win. I was happy to win, and I
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view it as more as I saw myself being competitive,
I was more cut out for the cutthroat world of
politics than my best friend who voted for me, And
I realized, okay, you know, because you got you know,
gotta be tough man. You know you can't. You know,
you gotta break a you know, break a few eggs
to make an omelet I also known as lying. I
might have saved him from a life of disappointment. You know,
I'm not cut out for politics. I got to go
do something else. And maybe he went on. I mean,
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I don't know, I didn't. I moved in the middle
of the second grade. So he became president. So you
won the office and didn't stick around for your term. No,
you know why because my aunt could no longer pick
me up from school. It was too far. She's like,
I can't pick him up anymore. So I had to
go closer to home. So I had to change schools
middle of the second grade. Wow, then voters are defrauded. Yeah,
and just your friend everybody. Honestly, very traumatic. This is
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why I never I never for you, not them. When
you think about no, when you think about kids changing
schools like it's a big mid school especially, I'm like,
I'm not going to do that. I can't believe I
had to do that because my aunt who was in
high school who would pick me up from school, like,
didn't want to do that anymore because she wanted to
go out with her friends after. So she's so she's
I can't pick Jason up anymore, said, well, you gotta go.
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You gotta go to a PS forty five, which is
closer to the house, which honestly was seven houses away
from from where seven houses and that's where the school was.
And it turned out to really like it there. Yeah,
because when I moved um where I was living, I
was zoned for a different school. So I was like, okay,
but that's that's where all my friends were. And then
this school opened and I was like okay, so but
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I still wanted to go to the other school because
all my friends were there. But then they were like, no,
we're not doing this. You could walk down the street
steven Staaten Island. Don't ask that. It's very it's very
traumatic conclusion. You're saying, at a very young age, you
actually did not control your own life. No. No, well,
I couldn't drive then. I couldn't drive when I was
you know, seven or eight. I didn't arise. You couldn't
dupe somebody else into driving. Hey, listen, can you give
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me right home every day and then I'll drive you
five dollars? Yeah? No, So I know. I think I
think I saved him from a life of artic but
from from getting into the wrong field. Maybe now he's
in medicine and he's figured out something or he's done
something with his life instead of you know, like sports.
Maybe he's the guy who saw that story last week.
Today there could be a pill in treatment for cancer
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by the end of the decade. Maybe that's him. Maybe
that's him, And you know what I'm I'm I'm just
here entertaining people every night, which is I should be doing.
Or maybe he didn't think lying was a bad thing
and instead he thought he would create some device that
could like test blood and fifty different blood tests with
one one machine and then and now is going to
prison next week? No it's not, it's not. Stop it's not.
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It's not not the same trust me, not the same person.
But uh, back to the big stay we told you
weeks ago there was one coach for Coach of the
Year in the NBA, and it was Mike Brown who
did the bleeping impossible. As much as I love Tom Thibodeau,
who got a couple of votes. Mike Brown was the winner.
And it was the easiest choice because you're talking about
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a team that hadn't made the playoffs since two thousand
and six, sixteen, the longest current drought of any of
the four major sports. Yeah, and now who's the longest
route the Jets. He comes back to the Jets. But
we told you he was the only choice to take
it again for sixteen years and to come in one
year and without superstar though he's got good players, right,
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he's got your players, but superstars he doesn't have. And
and he didn't just squeak into the playoffs is not
hey boy, you got it as a sixth seed. That's
pretty cool. You were in the playing round. No, you
have with you. You got up to a three seed.
Now we'll see what happens in the playoffs. Because now
I get really nervous for sacramental. But I mean, at
some point you would think, oh, I playoffs happened to
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bring that out, they're gonna play He did the impossible,
Steve he won with Sacramento. I mean, that's that's impossible.
And we saw this coming from who else. I love Tibbs.
Tibbs is great, man. Hey, it's an awesome job he
did right, Joe Missoula, who stepped into a thankless situation
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in Boston, Boston, that's great. These guys all have star
players on their team. They all got guys. They spent
a lot of money on Mike Budenholzer. Really, hey, y'all,
let's go do something. Come on, man, it's a comment.
It's gonna be the code handsome injuries. I will say
with Mike Brown in context, he won more games first
year in Sacramento than he did walking into the Lakers
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first year about a decade ago. That's saying something at
it's unbelievable from Mike Brown, like I say, we told
you so, but I mean absolutely well deserved. He was amazing.
Now from what's a great story to a story that
has become really difficult over the course of the past
couple of days, and that is apparently everybody hates Zion.
Now everybody hates Zion Williamson didn't come back for the
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Pelicans play in they lose. He was he was dunking
in pregame warmups and then gave the speech a day
before that. Well, I feel okay, but I don't want
to come back until I can play like Zion. I'm
gonna go third person and say when I'm ready to play,
I'm ready to play. It's like watching Zava from ted Lasso.
When I come back to play. I can come back
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to play when I feel like myself, but I can't
come back now. And varying degrees of reports as to
how pleased or not pleased the Pelicans are with Zion Williamson.
Some teammates said, hey, everything is cool. Other teammates after
the games, Jim McCollum said, hey, we got to be available,
and he was cleared to play the game, but he
just felt he couldn't play. And now everybody hates him.
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This is a guy that came into the league that
was going to take over the league, and now look
at how much everybody hates him and is jumping up
and down on him. Now, first things first, the dunking pregame,
he didn't look that explosive. I mean, I just because
he was dunking, and everybody on social medias look how explosive.
He's three hundred pounds. Let's be honest, he's kind of
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moving at three quarter speed. I didn't. I didn't quite
see the explosive, you know, trick between the legs. Yeah,
he was dunking, but it looked like he was, So
I don't put so much stock in that. And by
the way, he's not seven feet three hundred pounds, more
like six six three hundred pounds. Yeah. Yeah, Look, it's
a it's a weight thing. And you don't know how
much he is at odds with the Pelicans because they
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want to weigh him every month, you know. Skip Baitless
brought that up today on FS one, that hey, his
stepfather is running things in the relationship between the Pelicans
and the This is like Kyler Murray being mad. You
brought this on yourself. If you were just a better professional,
they wouldn't even have to think of these things, you know.
And and the whole thing, you know, comes down to
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this for me, Steve, is that there's a lot of
he said, he said, with this look for the Pelicans,
I could just say, hey, guys, you signed a guy
that couldn't play more than thirty games and you gave
him a max contract, So that's really on you. You
decided to do it, so that's on you, all right,
So I really don't feel bad because you added you
could have figured out something else, but this is what
you did. Zion Williamson is exactly who he said he
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was months ago. Just like Lebron and just like Kevin Durant,
you can no longer count on them to play. They
are no longer givens for your team. I cannot count
on Lebron James to be healthy all the way through
the playoffs because the guy can't stay healthy. Same thing
for Kevin Durant. I can't count on Katie to make
it all the way through the playoffs for the Sons.
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Why because he can't stay healthy anymore. It's happening for Zion,
but it's also happening early in his career. He's twenty two.
Still He's played in less than thirty games three of
the last four years, every single year of his professional career,
and I count Duke in that, every single year of
his career. You go back to his senior year of
high school. He had big injury. Senior year of high school,
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big injury, Duke, big injury. Every year in the NBA,
big injury. You don't suddenly start getting healthier. And this
is just who he is. And you have to accept
that that he is someone that you're never going to
be able to count him. Whether it's health, whether it's
the advice he's getting to stay out of the lineup,
whether it's advice about his health, whatever it is, you
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can't count him. The Pelicans can't count him. No team
can count him to play eighty games or sixty five
games and be healthy for the playoffs. He can't because
he just can't stay healthy. And I wonder because the
big takeaway from me when I hear all these different
storylines going on is that no, you can never count
on him. And he's like he's like found money, right,
Like whatever he plays, he plays, and you just have
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to hope one year he gets his injury out of
the way early and can be healthy for the playoffs,
just like Lebron, just like KD. You cannot count on him.
You have to build without thinking he's going to be
part of the team. He's been hurt way too often
to think that. But when you go back and forth
with how things are and Zion's not going to come
back until he's ready. In all of these things, this
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is a little conspiracy theorish, but this is where it heads.
It heads to me for Zion is that does Team
Zion and by that I mean he and his stepfather
whoever else you know, because he has independent medical advice
and that's why he didn't play because independent medicals didn't
clear him, and the team cleared him, but he didn't
get cleared that way because he still doesn't feel like
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he's Zion. That was when it was actually written as
from the independent medical advice. Yeah, yeah, it does not.
That's on the thing the doctor can sign that does
not feel like Zion. Um. I wonder how much of
this is Team Zion knows he's never going to be
healthy enough to play an NBA season. They just know it,
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and they're just going to continue to play this out
as long as they can, where Zion is still seen
as an asset, where hey, no, we earlis parts of
these injuries. He's this, he's that. No, we want him
to come back, We want him to be explosive and
show you that he's great. But honestly, that's what I
think of I think if you had to say, what's
going on behind closed doors? All the evidence size he
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points to we know the guy is never going to
be healthy enough, and is he healthy enough to come
back now. Probably not like he could run up and
down the floor for a couple of times, but how
long is he going to make it in a game
before he can't do it anymore? And we want to
protect that, and when he actually does get on the floor,
we want to show that he's dominant. So we want
to kind of not keep it a secret, but just
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sort of, hey, we understand exactly what he can do
and what he's not going to be able to do,
and a long term career in the NBA is just
not in the cards. So what we're hoping is we
get him to play. He collect as much as money
as possible this season, maybe he gets another contract after this,
worth a lot of money. He still gets money from
the Jordan brand and the Zion gear that goes out there,
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but we know he is on borrowed time. It can
only play so much, so we're only going to let
him play out there in spurts because we know he's
gonna spurt for a little while and then he's not
gonna be able to play. Maybe it's fifteen games, maybe
it's thirty games, but eventually then because he's too big,
because his body can't handle it. Yeah, hamstring injury is
now something will cost him a season, you know, some
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kind of any kind of lower body injury. We're gonna
keep him out for a while, a back injury, whatever
it is. So I wonder if that they know that
he's never going to be able to play and they're
just kind of playing out the string as long as possible.
And it was not a three week hamstring injury, three months,
it turned out. And the guy hasn't turned twenty three yet.
And to be fair, when we're talking money owed to him,
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they already, as you referenced, gave him the huge contract
extension that starts kicking in next season. He's still finishing
his original deal right now, drafted number one overall, and
then the team options picked up. That's what's ending right now.
So his salary that they haven't been paying, quote that
much for a guy with his talent the original few
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years in the league. His salary is going from about
ten mill to thirty mills starting next year. Just to
know next year, oh that we're start paying him, Oh great, great,
I guess you could be saying, well, we don't. We
haven't really started paying him yet because he's been hurt
and did. The other other thing is no, no, no,
he still hasn't been healthy, and now now you're not
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gonna start paying him till next year. So I guess
it's kind of how you look at it. Do you
want to say, how glad we're not paying him now,
but then next year when he's not healthy, you're really
you're just starting out to pay him. Oh man, this
is really something. But again, you just can't count on
him ever again he and who knows how long he's
gonna play? Way more years. It's just he's not I'll
say it again, he's not a seven footer. He's not
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even six eight. And you can't be carrying that much weight.
I mean, at what two more years, three years? How
much long? Really? How much long do you think he
can play? Three more years? How much longer till he's
in the till he's there's a reason why Greg Oden
trends every time Zion trends. How long is he gonna play?
How long can he play? How much longer does he have? Really,
that's what it is. You can't count on him, and
you can look at his NBA career in a finite
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pm Eastern seven pm. Pass a big headline tonight earlier
Today is a day game the Tampa Bay Rays one again.
They've now beaten four teams with losing records, some teams
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with big time losing records. But the Rays are now
thirteen and z to start the season, tying the modern
m LB record. That a seven run fifth inning tonight.
Harold Ramirez had a double to start the inning, had
a double to close the inning for So it was
a big, big night the Rays, matching the thirteen wins
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start that the Braves had in eighty two and the
Brewers had in eighty seven. And they had actually over
twenty thousand people for that game today. Yeah, you'd think
at twelve and oh, if you know, you gotta be
able to draw at least half right, what's capacity thin.
It's true, it's not been a murderous row of opponents,
but they've been killing people left in right all season
so far. Yeah, and you gotta think, hey, we're twelve
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and oh, what can we get fifteen percent of the ballpark? Well,
well we'll put fifty, said, We'll take a very small
ballpark will do it. It's like the most sense opening day.
We'll take it. Yeah, which again tells you about baseball
in Tampa. But that's not a conversation. Let let's talk
about it. Yeah, I hear. It's really tough to have
to cross the bridge. It does get very difficult. Well,
do you know sometimes if some people can't swim. I
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don't know. I don't want anything that. I don't want
to cross the bridge. I don't want to do it.
The only long what are we doing here? Too soon?
Too soon? Really? The only longer streak to open the season,
I know, you know this, Steve was the twenty and
oh start by the eighteen eighty four Saint Louis Marou
of course of the Union Association, so not a major
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league team. Uh no, but they did beat the Mets
in two series back then for some of those wings.
Marv Throneberry went, oh for eight, this is how this
is where the Rays are now, And yeah, are they
gonna get a lot of flak because they've played bad teams?
Of course they are. But thirteen, you know, is still
thirteen and oh. But to give you something a little
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different about this start by the raise is that. I'm
telling you, we talked about this before the season started
that the race that I am looking forward to watching
the most is the AL East because it is going
to be murder because you have four teams that are
pretty good at least. Now look at the rain. Is
gonna come back? Of course, they lead the league in runs,
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and they lead the league in most the fewest runs allowed. Yeah,
of course they're gonna come back to the pack. You
can't keep this up. They're gonna come back. But the
Blue Jays are really good, and the Yankees are really good,
and you know what, so are the Orioles. This is
one of those years where you're gonna see people throughout
the season going, oh, it's too bad we're in that
new Major League Baseball where you know, more teams make
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the playoffs, because wow, what a great run this would
be with all these great teams, only one of them
is making the playoffs. But it doesn't matter. This is
going to be an unbelievable race in the American League East.
And I can't wait. Look it's gonna it's already started.
And yes, you know they're five games up, but they're
gonna come back. And it's gonna be awesome because this
is such a deep If there's no division that's this good,
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that that's that's four teams in it that can all
be played. Really, are you saying Harmon's White Sox that
division is not as deep as No, I'm gonna I'm
gonna count out the Royals and the Tigers a little bit,
I think, uh right right off the back, what's left
of the White Sox. Yeah, and look, if the Twins
keep scoring nine runs in the first thing against the
Yankees like they did today, they're gonna win games. But
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this is gonna be some kind of run up, tell
we're we are in. This is going to be a
golden year to watch that race in the a Elias
because everybody's really good. Everybody's gonna win. They're gonna cannibalize
each other. It's gonna be awesome. And Toronto, who you
have mentioned as one of the good teams with this division,
is going to be hosting Tampa Bay starting tomorrow. So yeah,
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they might be five games back, but have a good weekend.
And that's all by the boards thirteen and oh start
or no, because there's more than one good team pursuing you.
Jason you clearly have never watched the Red Sox play
this season. Hey, but I gave you the four teams
that are good. I didn't mention the vision is all good. Yeah,
that's four part five teams. Yeah, okay, but somebody's got
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to come in last. The Mets usually do stop. We've
been good though. Your things just these punchlines just don't
work because the Mets are good. They just if the
Mets stunk, I would say, yeah, but the Mets are good.
I just watched Babe Ruth play the last three nights.
You wait to Max Munsey strikes out five times against
the Cubs to brow night. You know what's happening. You
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know it's up yeah, probably, yeah, but look, it's gonna
be an unbelievable rate. Hey, I can't wait. I mean,
this really is something, and you know who it's going
to really piss off the most. It's too awesome as
my dad. My dad's gonna go. Oh, you know, Boon
keeps getting thrown out. We gotta play the Blue Jays,
and we gotta play the Orios. There's no break in
the schedule for us. Now, now hold on, you're not
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playing your division opponents nineteen times anymore. It's a more
balanced schedule people. It's like Max Munsey doesn't get to
face the Giants is often bad news for him with
the schedule this year instead, the Dodgers will be playing
the Yankees in Tampa Bay and Toronto and Baltimore this
year and every year. Yeah, it doesn't. It's not going
to change what he says though. That's not that's not
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going to change. Oh you're saying the truth has no
effect on the opinion. No, no, no, no, the Yankees.
It's something is out there to screw the Yankees. That
that's the way my dad. Whenever something happens, there's two
people that there's two things that can screw the Yankees,
or three things, sorry either other. If you had a
pie chart of things you could screw the Yankees, according
to my dad, Okay, at one third of it would
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be schedule injuries, all kinds of stuff. Um. Another third
of its Chapman and or the bullpen, because I would
because he's definitely not a fan of the bull every
time something happened. There are very few good bullpens so
far the Yankees. The Yankees could lose one nothing and
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the starter could go all nine innings. He would go, yeah,
the bullpen really didn't help us to that, and the
other third would be Aaron Boot. So that it's the
third it's it's, it's, it's the bullpen, it's it's and
then it's Aaron Boot. Those are the three things my
dad blames. We used to have a Yankee fan working
here when Girardi was the manager and they were winning
the World Series back then, and all you all you'd
hear from Girardi, how how soon are they gonna fire
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Girardi's blame? Yeah, but Steve, come on, man, I think
we saw last year with the Phillies that kind of
what's Girardi's Yeah, well yeah, okay, bad example. My example
was more about the Yankee fan. It's just if there's
something to complain about, it doesn't matter if you've won
what is it twenty seven? It just whatever. Jason yet,
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uh no, no, not yet, not yet. He's hit yet. No.
I think he said he's he's in like one fifty.
I think he's you know, he's got on basic good
and hold Jeta's Jack. He's kind of basically he's hitting
leadoff and he's hitting one eighty right, Okay, come on, Yankee.
So again again, I can't wait for this race because
it's gonna be so one fifth. Here's the average. It's
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even better than one fifty eight. Okay, all right, because
I think he came into today hitting one eighty and
now he's hitting one fifty. Let's let you know he's doing.
He's really struggling at the plate. Let's put him up
the leadoff. Let's have leadoff. You know, Aaron Hicks is
also hitting one fifty eight seemingly for the last five years,
and he keeps getting starts. Yeah, but I mean, but
it was just it was just ten days ago that
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that Volpi was Derek Jeeter. I mean ten days ago
he was there. Look at this. We got a new
guy and he had to do Derek Jena. Look at it.
He made the tea. What a great story is Okay,
let's see what happens when the fast balls fly for real.
Let let's let let's see what happens. Oh, what a surprise.
The guys struggling, and it wouldn't surprise Me'd have to
send him down right because he because he really isn't
handling it. It's been very difficult and he needs to
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go back down and get himself back to where he is.
He comes back up and he's not overwhelmed anymore. Oh
what a great Sorry, Okay, let's see. Let's see with
the fastballs. Meanwhile, they would still need a short step.
He had one single two strike. Yes, it's it's taken
Jared Kelnick like four different times of the marriage to
bring him up him to finally be good. And now
he's only good for about ten days. Right, So, oh
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he's finally hit a home run last night. Yeah you
lost five to two. Yeah, you lost five to two.
Come on, I would say caution to everyone who gives
an unproven whatever the job, I mean, like hands him
the job. The Dodgers new second baseman this year, I'm
not convinced is gonna hit major league pitching yet. Oh,
Steve Sacks will be just fine. What's worried about. He's
gonna be great. That's just they've got two question marks
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up the middle offensively with second base and shortstop. With
the Dodgers, this is not anywhere near the kind of
lineup that they've had in recent years. So for a
team that I won't even say fancies itself a competitor,
should be a competitor every year to just hand shortstop
to the ultimate in unproven. I mean the guy played
barely played at double A, didn't he volpi and they
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hand him the shortstop job. Yeah, stay tuned. This is
not a This can't be permanent, Steve. We have the
Sultan of Swat. Can he play short and second? Well,
you have the Salt the Swat and you have James Outman,
you know clearly is never going to make another out
Muncy can get you thirty homers and hit one fifty eight.
The guys playing short and second for the Dodgers will
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get you nowhere near thirty homers and will hit one
for you're giving them. Well, look, I'm glad you brought
this up because this is a bit. This is a
big story out of the game. Right. We talked about
the Al East, the Yankees, Jason Smith, Steve Disager in
from Mike Harmon tonight. The Dodgers have started out very
undodgerlike because you are used to a different level of
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excellence over the past, you know, twelve years us of
them just steamrolling through teams with all kinds of talent
everything else. But it was a very different offseason for them.
They didn't go and spend a ton of money, likely
because they didn't see guys to go spend a ton
of money on. Maybe they're saving for Shoho Tani, but
more likely they're saving for the deadline or when they
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need to make a trade because they went all in
last year. You win one hundred and ten games, and
what happens you don't even make it to the NLCS.
So that that's I don't care what kind of team
you are, how rich you are, what kind of money
you have spending. That's where you stop and go, Okay,
was that really the right thing to do last year?
Do we really do the right thing by going all
out to win and we don't make it to the NLCS.
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I understand that you don't want to be in that
early round of playoff. I get it, But as you see,
you saw two teams in the early round of the
playoff last year and they moved on to play in
the NLCS. So yeah, I think this was a big
Hey wait a minute, let's dial it back a year.
Let's give the kids a chance to play, and if
it doesn't work, we can go make a move at
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the deadline. Right if we want to go get Derek
Jeter out of retirement. We could trade James Outman to
go get him. Hey, hey, don't even suggest that out loud. Look,
because that's how I see the Dodgers progressing. And maybe
it's it's a big bid on show, hey Otani, but
you know the Angels are going to be that's the
last team they want to send them to. They'd rather
send him away, which now instead they should just cut
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him and have the Dodgers sign him pact. Yes, that's
out of which gonna cut him, which is why the
Mets are gonna end up getting it, becase Steve Cohen
will I'm telling it's gonna happen. But the Dodgers are
a team. That's okay, let's stay afloat. We're five hundred.
As long as we're a little bit over five hundred,
we're fun. We're gonna make the playoffs, and then we'll
make the moves we need at the trade deadline. We'll
go get a couple of stars. We can then trade
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a couple of our younger players and figure things out. Now,
the Gavin Lux thing, look, that was a shame. It
took him by surprise. You're talking about a guy who
expected to play. They had handed him the job. Yeah,
and he because you needed to, right, because he had
shown enough to say we can give you the job
and you can be maybe one of our lynchpin. And
it was night and day compared to twenty twenty when
they were ready to give him a job and he
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could not function in the major leagues at the play. Yeah,
it was. Yeah, some guys come up a little too early.
Every player is on is on his own timeline. But
that's that's such a huge thing. That's a huge setback
because you're talking about now a big hole that they
expected at that at the top of the order, in
the middle of the infield. So they're gonna sit back
and a lot of teams are gonna do the same thing.
Right the Mets when they lost Carlos Karred, they go
(43:00):
crazy to sign somebody. No, they kind of set back
and said, Okay, you're gonna see these rich teams wait
and they're gonna go at the deadline and go as
long as we're okay, let's go for it. Then why
are we doing it now when we don't know things
might not work out and then we're on the hook
for all the money we're paying these guys, and we
may have to start over again and we have to
lose guys. Let's just say, let's see where we are,
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and if it's a good season for us, we'll go spend.
We'll spend it the deadline. We'll get somebody that's got
a couple of years left on their deal before they
hit free eight. We'll make a Sodo type deal potentially,
and that's when we'll go get our guys. And if
it's a bad year for us and it's not happening, okay,
we put it away. We wait till the offseason, we
go for next year. But it's not surprising to me
that this is what the Dodgers are doing. This what
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a lot of teams are doing, because we come off
a year in Major League Baseball where it was, yeah,
we watched a couple of the best teams make it far,
but we watched a couple of teams at won eighty
seven eighty five games make it to the NLCS. So yeah,
it's a little bit different. So I get what the
Dodgers are doing. Does it mean they're done? Being the
Dodgers doesn't mean that all these other teams aren't done.
Spending doesn't mean the Mets are done spending anybody. It
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just means we're gonna wait a little while and we
want to be able to be peaking when we need
to peek. We want to peek at the end of
the season. We want to peek going into the playoffs.
It's a longer playoff now, longer rounds. We'll go get somebody.
Otani's gonna be the big prize, probably emit when it
comes to the deadline. But this is what baseball, This
is what the big teams are going to do right now. Okay,
we're now we're in position which is going to make
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a great trade deadline because a lot of teams are
going to be in on all the big stars that
they think are going to be the big difference makers.
So that's going to make the MLB trade deadline a
whole lot of fun. And what's giving the Dodgers far
more time in the future to think this through and
let it play out is that the Padres just aren't hitting.
And for all of the offseason hype. San Diego is
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about a five hundred team, just as the Dodgers are
about a five hundred teams. So far, nobody's running away
with the wells Wa t tease is hitting pretty well
in Triple A. It's right, he's still got another week
until he comes up to the majors and then a
somebody in the front office something else, until he gets
on his motorcycle again. Yeah, it'll be something. He'll have
one of those big back swings and the shoulder will
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come out of place, and oh wow, look at you
putting that out there. He does it to himself. Something's
gonna come up. It's like, you know, it's like when
the Dodgers didn't give Manny Manny ram bears. You look,
you have the same thing. It's there was a headache coming.
There was a headache round the bend. It's the same
thing when the Dodgers acquired Manny Machado for exactly what
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you were saying trade deadline in twenty eighteen, made a
run through into the World Series, but thankfully did not
sign him to the ten year deal in the offseason,
because you would have had a headaches at some point
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he played every game against the Giant, every game. We
talked about him a couple of days ago, and then
he just goes off on him again last night. So
ninety seven home runs, two hundred and four RBI, and
a four fifty seven batting average. Right, if he played
with every game against the Giant, it was already realistically
sixty homers a year if he faced San Francisco all
the games throughout the summer. Oh, I know where the
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Giants are going in free agency whenever, whenever we could
get a chance. Yes, we gotta go get Muncy. He's
doing that against us. We gotta go get him. Of
course he won't get to bat against Giants pitching that way,
but sure, go ahead, go for it. No, no, no,
And look and it being Max Muncie with the Dodgers
having tonight off, like he's easily a guy that you
can see tomorrow going, Oh where are the Dodgers tomorrow? Ohkah,
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they got the Cubs. Oh he'll go over five five strikeouts,
like sure, yeah, yeah, versus not a three hundred hitter, ladies,
and a lot of power, but sure, so you go
and platinum Sombarrow. Oh yeah, if I can, if I
can always predict home runs in six RBI for every
Max Muncie game against the Giants. I will give you
over five platinum sombrero against the Cups tomorrow night. Silver sambrero,
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golden sumbrero. Yeah. Oh, three strikeouts, four strikeouts in a game,
five strikeouts, six strikeous. Whatever you get to, whatever you
get to. What's after platinum? Steve, has that been done?
It felt like uranium. It's like, well, I always going
like gold platinum. It's like the gold records. Ye, Kiss
double platinum, Like that was always the big record growing
(02:29):
up was Oh the Kiss double platinum is awesome. A
double platinum with kids, Yeah, let's have it double platinum. Yeah,
because it's gold and then it's platinum and then and
that's how I learned it, because of records. It's gold record,
then platinum and then double platinum and then I don't
know what's after that. Yeah, it's Michael Jackson. After that.
I don't know what they do with the record diamond,
like as a diamond is it is. I just remember
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when Alexi Lawless, of course Fox soccer commentator, when he
was playing for the US team, he was in a
band and they asked, hey, you've made a recording, right,
is it very propriate popular? And he said well, I
think we went zinc. He he couldn't pick of anything lower.
It definitely wasn't gold or platinum. That was a zinc records.
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We get thirteen wins by the Rays to set up
or to tie the modern MLB record. There one win
away from absolute baseball history. But make no mistake, today
was a day that is a great day for the NFL.
It's a great day for fans, a great day for
the Washington franchise, as Dan Snyder has reached an agreement
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to sell the Washington Commanders. That includes Josh Harris, who
owns the seventy six ers, and of course Magic Johnson.
They'll get Magic involved by in the command investment business
with him. Yeah, who so so Magic Johnson, I mean
the Magic Johnson Twitter game. Now that we talk about
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the football, Oh my god, that's gonna be amazing. Yes,
the next Tree tweet will be that was a first down?
That will be It's the most obvious twitter. By the way.
This guy who may or may not be buying the Commanders,
there is an agreement to purchase. Of course, there are
a lot of hoops to jump through still, but he
intends to. He intends to buy, just like Aaron Rodgers
intends to be a Jet. You to buy it. I
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read on the rundown for the show tonight that Aaron
Rodgers is still a Green Bay packer, you know, to
pull the curtain back. Frostburg does that every bleep in night.
He puts the rundown together with all our ideas for
the show, and the top story is always Aaron Rodgers
is still a Green Bay packer. Every single day. There's
no first round pick being exchanged in this whopping deal
that's coming. Nope, six Billy six point oh five billion dollars.
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Oh jess the end and the Commanders thing, yeah no, no, no, no,
no, no no, no no, But that's how much the Jets
have to pay Aaron Rodgers for the next two years.
There's six billion dollars. It's what it's own. Um, so
it's not signed, so another group could still come in
and buy the team, but there is a preliminary, non
exclusive agreement to sell. So it's kind of like when
you accept an offer on a house. Hey, we're accepting
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backup bits. Oh wait, the backup it is for more. Hey,
we want that offer instead, Let's go get that offer.
So this would be the richest prize of the most
money ever spent for a sports franchise at six billion dollars,
maybe more than the Broncos recently. Well wait, I mean
this shows you that whenever Forbes values a team at things,
it's like it's ridiculous, like that if the if the
Washington Commanders are six billion, what are the Cowboys twelve billion?
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I just go back to billion dollars. Come in Genie Bus,
the Lakers owner years ago when the Forbes valuation of
the Lakers came out at a billion dollars, and she
was asked for a comment on that, and she says, well,
my dad wouldn't sell it for two billions, so how
much how much are they were? It's a little low,
it's a lot, you know, it's funny, you know, you
say that. And I remember one time I had a
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conversation with Scott Boris um when I was doing Roma's Burning,
when I was at ESPN. I was on the forum
on Roma's Burning, and Boris came in to do the
show as well. So I wasn't yeah, so I was,
So I was. I was a forum guest coming in.
And it was when Jim would throw debate topics that
ed me and somebody else or two people in the forum,
and it would be a guest and Scott Boris was
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the guest. And it was at the time when Boris
was trying to negotiate the big Manny Ramirez contract with
the Dodgers, and it was when everybody, you know, when
he would go through the whole well, you know, more
people come to the game, so there'd be more money
in parking, there'd be more money in this and and
and Manny Ramirez would would would pay for himself basically,
like because of the additions in parking and revenue and
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what you'd make at the concession stands, all this, like
giving Manny Ramires an X amount of dollars would be
he pays for himself. I'm like, okay, I don't know
about that, but I said, Valenzuela did, but not all
years stars. So I said to him, so, this is
when Manny ramires in that huge, unbelievable run with the
Dodgers that is just legendary, when they had Manny would
and everything else. And I said, he said, what do
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you think. I said, well, I'm gonna make you pretty
happy to this. And why, I said, because now this
is going back to when Manny So this is like
the early twenty tens and I or late late two thousands,
early twenty tens. I said, well, I'll make you happy
because I think the Dodgers should give Manny three years
and one hundred million. I mean, right now, you're three
years a million. Go, well, that's pretty low. Why would
you give a god? But back then three years ago
was like no one we're taking. And I said, I'm
gonna say three years on one hundred million. And Boris
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looked me in the eye and he said, well, don't
sell him short. Like he was. He was really like, hey,
I don't know about you going of three years one
hundred million. I might be thinking about more than that.
And this is you know, twelve or thirteen, fourteen years ago,
when Manny Ramirees was Manny Ramieres. He was hitting five
hundred at home run every night. I said three years
and a one hundred million hears ah, I don't sell
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him shorts. I don't sell him short with us. Yeah, well,
you can ask for anything, right, Yeah, we can say no,
but you could ask whatever you want to. But it's
you know, it's you've said this before about other things.
It's worth what people will pay for it. That's exactly
that's what it is. A sports franchise is like a
piece of memorabilia. You can say it's worth X amount
of dollars, but it's really worth whatever someone's going to pay,
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and whatever you pay, that's really where the starting point is. Now,
like okay, so if you pay, that means the franchise
is worth at least six billion and probably more. It's
almost like real estate. When you know, before the you know,
the bottom fell out in real estate became more difficult.
For the longest time, real estate was the biggest investment
because real estate prices just went up. Certain parts of
the country real estate would go up more. But you know,
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you buy a house and if you stay there for
ten years. Hey, guess what. You buy a house for
two hundred and fifty thousand dollars. Ten years later, maybe
it's worth five hundred thousand dollars and you go went
up that much. Yeah, because that's how real estate is.
That's kind of like sports teams are. So you buy
a sports team, the money it goes up from year
to year is ammens. It's never coming back down. In
the NFL, certainly, that's the number one, easily most popular
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sporting league in this country. Yeah, it's a small brotherhood
of people who can buy teams, so the prices just
go up and up. So it's not a surprise, but
something a little different than than what people have talked
about today with Daniel Snyder. And clearly the big headline
is ding Dong the witch is dead. Right, Hey, he's gone.
He's a bad guy. He was bad for the NFL,
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and it's great that he's gone. And I get that,
but you know what, everybody knows that everybody knows. Anybody
could you want to read a column on Fox or
ESPN dot com, you know that that Dan Snyder is
a bad guy, he was a bad owner and he
had to go, right, that's pretty obvious. I think we
know that by now. But when I see fans celebrating
and I see like the commanders celebrating all these different things,
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it's a huge win for fans. But for a different
reason because the celebration going on right now really throughout
the NFL because he's out, but really in DC. I
get it because the only thing that you cannot change
and you will not see change if if it doesn't,
if it doesn't need to, is an owner. Right because
if your team is underachieving and your team is terrible,
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eventually the players or the coaches or the GM's responsible
will be gone and somebody else will be in there.
If you're not happy with your team's manager or head coach,
guess what. You lose a couple of seasons. You got
a new guy coming, right, it may take a couple
of years. We got a new guy coming. You're not
happy with who the first basement is on your team.
Boy got to hit more than fifteen home runs in
one hundred and twenty five game. You're gonna get a
new first basement, right. Your GM is not put together
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a really good team in the NBA, and you're not
with guess what you're gonna get a new GM in
a couple of years. It's going to happen. Everything and
everybody is accountable, from the biggest star to the lowest player,
from the lowest player up to the general manager. That's
the thing. If you have a bad owner, you are stuck.
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You are absolutely stuck. Because a bad owner doesn't matter.
If I don't want to sell the team, I don't
have to sell the team. You're making money, right, I'm
still making money. I don't need as long as I
don't do anything that makes me get pushed out, which
is why it's so rammed. You see this, Daniel Snyder
got pushed out and he had to sell the team.
You never see that. An ownership change is usually I
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want to get out of the business. Hey, why it's
it's it's found money right that. Oh my god, this
guy wants to get out and he was such a
bad owner. Were so lucky. I'm so lucky the Willpon
sold the Mets and Steve Cohen, who says, I don't care,
I'll pay for anything. That's why I'm so glad that
he bought the Mets, because he's such a great owner.
Because I don't care, I'll buy Carlos career. I'll buy
any of these guys. I'll go buy Shohyotani if I
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want to. That's why it's awesome money. Yeah, am I
loving Woody Johnson right now after the story today that
maybe he's nervous about getting Aaron Rodgers. Come on, dude,
we gotta close a deal. But if you have a
bad owner, you're stuck. And if it's an owner, then
and your team is not winning and you're not making
a run to get better, and the good decisions aren't
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being made. They're not being held accountable, right, They're not
being held accountable for your teams sucking on the field.
They're only held accountable if it's something human like this.
And you see all the situations that just make your
your stomach turn that went on with the Commanders, and
it's like, okay, this is why Daniel Snyder is out.
And that's what's so rare about this is that owners
don't get pushed out. It's very very rare to see
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an owner get pushed out to have to sell, you know,
and and so to see this happen now, this is
why commanders fans. Hey, it's a new day for us
because how long did you put up with? Daniel Snyder
owns his team and we're terrible and we don't make
the right decisions, we don't hire the right codes, and
they embarrass us off the field, and I can't even
I can't even wear Washington Commander's gear didn't even have
a name for a year and a half because we
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couldn't come up with something else coming off of redskins,
all of these different things. And so when when you
look at that and go, man, you feel bad because
you're stuck as a fan. But when the owner magically changes,
you gotta count your lucky stars and go, man, we
are really really fortunate because usually an owner doesn't get
pushed out, and if an owner stinks, and owner stinks
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and he's there a long long time. So now the
fact that the what Commanders had this today, that's why
it's a big day of celebration. And he's been there
close to twenty five years running this football team in
Washington or owning it, I should say, running it into
the ground in some respects. And there are still there
is still the investigation of you know, his personal business
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acumen and how he treats people. Let's put it that
way that isn't suddenly dropped. And so if you're another
owner in this NFL coterie of men that are privileged
enough to own NFL franchises, you really don't care what
the purchase price is at this point do you you
want this problem to go away? You want him personally
to go away. So the Snyders are on their way out.
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Things are on their way. It's not being voted on yet.
It's we don't have a written agreement. It is an
agreement to sell that hasn't been delivered to the rest
of the league quite yet. Twitter At how about a fresca?
The Jason Smith's Show with Mike Harmon. Steve de Seger
in for Harmon tonight, say, Hey, when your owner is
a bad owner and he gets out, that is a
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big time lucky day. Understand that doesn't happen and you
get stuck for you I had I had the will
ponds for over twenty years, Steve, and I couldn't stand it.
Now it's like a whole new day, was Steve Cohen,
It's so awesome. Be sure to catch live editions of
The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harman weekdays at ten pm.
Eastern seven pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the
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iHeartRadio app. Too early for this song? Too early, man,
come on, I mean you're gone, so I had to,
you know, get you back with a gubble. Yeah. Signed
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Every night? Right? So? No, we don't no, no, we
don't need this song. Tight Shirt is under this mistaken
the impression that this song is better than it is.
It's great, you know, it's a yeah. It's like it's
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like all honestly, it's like all the Raptors fans out
there right now they keep thinking, oh, man, well we're
still really good and Van Vleet is No, your title
was years ago. Stop, you're a five runner team. Let's
just like what's up. Steve rolled up to the juke
box with a roll a corner. So you're screwed. Well,
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that's that's that's okay, because what I really though, a
you're gonna say was guess what, Jason, what? Well? The
micers are back to tell me the Lakers are of
the Kers are back. They're back. You had them tanking
to play Denver. Come on, they're back. They did for
like three and a half quarters. Don't tell me they didn't.
That was and then a D was taking at the
end with that foul call. At the end of my
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tanking would be them losing. Oh well, hey, they tried
to give the game away. They tried, they tried, they tried,
Minnesota wouldn't take. They're back. Uh so while the Lakers
are back. Yes, a couple big stories out of the
NBA really quick. One best story of the day. Mike
Brown is your NBCA NBA Coach of the Year. I
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hate to say I told you so, but I told
you months ago. He was the coach of the year.
And it's not even close. The NBCA National Basketball Coaches
Association Coach of the Year. In other words, this is
the other head coaches voting on him. Yes, this is
this was named for the former executive director Michael Goldberg.
This is based on a vote of the league's thirty
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head coaches. You can vote for one person and you
can't vote for yourself, which if they would do school
elections that way, I don't know that I would have
become president of my second grade class. How many times
did you vote for yourself? You know? I feel really bad.
You know you got you gotta rip open a huge
wound with me, Steve. Okay, so how much food did
you promise other people to vote for you? No? No?
In second grade, I ran for president against one of
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my best friends, and we were running and we did
this whole thing. We said, Okay, you vote for me
and I'll vote for you. I said that'd be cool,
that'd be cool, and so he he says, I voted
for you. I said, okay, great, and I wouldn't I
voted for me? So I said, I voted for him.
But I really I feel awful about you are a politician,
even at a young age. I did. I kind of knew. Now.
Luckily I didn't win by just one or two votes,
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so it was I was okay, but I still, you know,
till this day, I feel bad. I go boy, but
I kind of wanted to win. I kind of knew
back then I was competitive. I think I knew. I
think that's when I knew. I it's called lying. Actually, no,
learned that. I don't know that it was lying. I think, yes,
actually you said I will vote for you and you
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did not vote for him. That is lying. I think
in politics, lying is different. It's different. Defini not called
lying enough. No, I think I had alternative facts. Now
that fact was I'm not voting for you. That was
the alternative. Now I know who you're running your campaign
was Kelly and Conway with that expression. No, I did
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you give a speech in front of the school, and
did you promise Coca cola and the drinking fountains and
all of that. No, I forget what It was second grade,
so I probably promised, like, you know, another five minutes
of recess. I don't know, something that I probably couldn't give, which, again,
what politicians do. I promised something they can't give. So
I think I kind of did that. But I was
happy to win. I was happy to win, and I
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view it as more as I saw myself being competitive,
I was more cut out for the cutthroat world of
politics than my best friend who voted for me, And
I realized, okay, you know, because you got you know,
gotta be tough man. You know you can't. You know,
you gotta break a you know, break a few eggs
to make an omelet I also known as lying. I
might have saved him from a life of disappointment. You know,
I'm not cut out for politics. I got to go
do something else. And maybe he went on. I mean,
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I don't know, I didn't. I moved in the middle
of the second grade. So he became president. So you
won the office and didn't stick around for your term. No,
you know why because my aunt could no longer pick
me up from school. It was too far. She's like,
I can't pick him up anymore. So I had to
go closer to home. So I had to change schools
middle of the second grade. Wow, then voters are defrauded. Yeah,
and just your friend everybody. Honestly, very traumatic. This is
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why I never I never for you, not them. When
you think about no, when you think about kids changing
schools like it's a big mid school especially, I'm like,
I'm not going to do that. I can't believe I
had to do that because my aunt who was in
high school who would pick me up from school, like,
didn't want to do that anymore because she wanted to
go out with her friends after. So she's so she's
I can't pick Jason up anymore, said, well, you gotta go.
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You gotta go to a PS forty five, which is
closer to the house, which honestly was seven houses away
from from where seven houses and that's where the school was.
And it turned out to really like it there. Yeah,
because when I moved um where I was living, I
was zoned for a different school. So I was like, okay,
but that's that's where all my friends were. And then
this school opened and I was like okay, so but
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I still wanted to go to the other school because
all my friends were there. But then they were like, no,
we're not doing this. You could walk down the street
steven Staaten Island. Don't ask that. It's very it's very
traumatic conclusion. You're saying, at a very young age, you
actually did not control your own life. No. No, well,
I couldn't drive then. I couldn't drive when I was
you know, seven or eight. I didn't arise. You couldn't
dupe somebody else into driving. Hey, listen, can you give
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me right home every day and then I'll drive you
five dollars? Yeah? No, So I know. I think I
think I saved him from a life of artic but
from from getting into the wrong field. Maybe now he's
in medicine and he's figured out something or he's done
something with his life instead of you know, like sports.
Maybe he's the guy who saw that story last week.
Today there could be a pill in treatment for cancer
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by the end of the decade. Maybe that's him. Maybe
that's him, And you know what I'm I'm I'm just
here entertaining people every night, which is I should be doing.
Or maybe he didn't think lying was a bad thing
and instead he thought he would create some device that
could like test blood and fifty different blood tests with
one one machine and then and now is going to
prison next week? No it's not, it's not. Stop it's not.
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It's not not the same trust me, not the same person.
But uh, back to the big stay we told you
weeks ago there was one coach for Coach of the
Year in the NBA, and it was Mike Brown who
did the bleeping impossible. As much as I love Tom Thibodeau,
who got a couple of votes. Mike Brown was the winner.
And it was the easiest choice because you're talking about
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a team that hadn't made the playoffs since two thousand
and six, sixteen, the longest current drought of any of
the four major sports. Yeah, and now who's the longest
route the Jets. He comes back to the Jets. But
we told you he was the only choice to take
it again for sixteen years and to come in one
year and without superstar though he's got good players, right,
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he's got your players, but superstars he doesn't have. And
and he didn't just squeak into the playoffs is not
hey boy, you got it as a sixth seed. That's
pretty cool. You were in the playing round. No, you
have with you. You got up to a three seed.
Now we'll see what happens in the playoffs. Because now
I get really nervous for sacramental. But I mean, at
some point you would think, oh, I playoffs happened to
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bring that out, they're gonna play He did the impossible,
Steve he won with Sacramento. I mean, that's that's impossible.
And we saw this coming from who else. I love Tibbs.
Tibbs is great, man. Hey, it's an awesome job he
did right, Joe Missoula, who stepped into a thankless situation
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in Boston, Boston, that's great. These guys all have star
players on their team. They all got guys. They spent
a lot of money on Mike Budenholzer. Really, hey, y'all,
let's go do something. Come on, man, it's a comment.
It's gonna be the code handsome injuries. I will say
with Mike Brown in context, he won more games first
year in Sacramento than he did walking into the Lakers
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first year about a decade ago. That's saying something at
it's unbelievable from Mike Brown, like I say, we told
you so, but I mean absolutely well deserved. He was amazing.
Now from what's a great story to a story that
has become really difficult over the course of the past
couple of days, and that is apparently everybody hates Zion.
Now everybody hates Zion Williamson didn't come back for the
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Pelicans play in they lose. He was he was dunking
in pregame warmups and then gave the speech a day
before that. Well, I feel okay, but I don't want
to come back until I can play like Zion. I'm
gonna go third person and say when I'm ready to play,
I'm ready to play. It's like watching Zava from ted Lasso.
When I come back to play. I can come back
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to play when I feel like myself, but I can't
come back now. And varying degrees of reports as to
how pleased or not pleased the Pelicans are with Zion Williamson.
Some teammates said, hey, everything is cool. Other teammates after
the games, Jim McCollum said, hey, we got to be available,
and he was cleared to play the game, but he
just felt he couldn't play. And now everybody hates him.
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This is a guy that came into the league that
was going to take over the league, and now look
at how much everybody hates him and is jumping up
and down on him. Now, first things first, the dunking pregame,
he didn't look that explosive. I mean, I just because
he was dunking, and everybody on social medias look how explosive.
He's three hundred pounds. Let's be honest, he's kind of
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moving at three quarter speed. I didn't. I didn't quite
see the explosive, you know, trick between the legs. Yeah,
he was dunking, but it looked like he was, So
I don't put so much stock in that. And by
the way, he's not seven feet three hundred pounds, more
like six six three hundred pounds. Yeah. Yeah, Look, it's
a it's a weight thing. And you don't know how
much he is at odds with the Pelicans because they
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want to weigh him every month, you know. Skip Baitless
brought that up today on FS one, that hey, his
stepfather is running things in the relationship between the Pelicans
and the This is like Kyler Murray being mad. You
brought this on yourself. If you were just a better professional,
they wouldn't even have to think of these things, you know.
And and the whole thing, you know, comes down to
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this for me, Steve, is that there's a lot of
he said, he said, with this look for the Pelicans,
I could just say, hey, guys, you signed a guy
that couldn't play more than thirty games and you gave
him a max contract, So that's really on you. You
decided to do it, so that's on you, all right,
So I really don't feel bad because you added you
could have figured out something else, but this is what
you did. Zion Williamson is exactly who he said he
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was months ago. Just like Lebron and just like Kevin Durant,
you can no longer count on them to play. They
are no longer givens for your team. I cannot count
on Lebron James to be healthy all the way through
the playoffs because the guy can't stay healthy. Same thing
for Kevin Durant. I can't count on Katie to make
it all the way through the playoffs for the Sons.
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Why because he can't stay healthy anymore. It's happening for Zion,
but it's also happening early in his career. He's twenty two.
Still He's played in less than thirty games three of
the last four years, every single year of his professional career,
and I count Duke in that, every single year of
his career. You go back to his senior year of
high school. He had big injury. Senior year of high school,
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big injury, Duke, big injury. Every year in the NBA,
big injury. You don't suddenly start getting healthier. And this
is just who he is. And you have to accept
that that he is someone that you're never going to
be able to count him. Whether it's health, whether it's
the advice he's getting to stay out of the lineup,
whether it's advice about his health, whatever it is, you
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can't count him. The Pelicans can't count him. No team
can count him to play eighty games or sixty five
games and be healthy for the playoffs. He can't because
he just can't stay healthy. And I wonder because the
big takeaway from me when I hear all these different
storylines going on is that no, you can never count
on him. And he's like he's like found money, right,
Like whatever he plays, he plays, and you just have
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to hope one year he gets his injury out of
the way early and can be healthy for the playoffs,
just like Lebron, just like KD. You cannot count on him.
You have to build without thinking he's going to be
part of the team. He's been hurt way too often
to think that. But when you go back and forth
with how things are and Zion's not going to come
back until he's ready. In all of these things, this
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is a little conspiracy theorish, but this is where it heads.
It heads to me for Zion is that does Team
Zion and by that I mean he and his stepfather
whoever else you know, because he has independent medical advice
and that's why he didn't play because independent medicals didn't
clear him, and the team cleared him, but he didn't
get cleared that way because he still doesn't feel like
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he's Zion. That was when it was actually written as
from the independent medical advice. Yeah, yeah, it does not.
That's on the thing the doctor can sign that does
not feel like Zion. Um. I wonder how much of
this is Team Zion knows he's never going to be
healthy enough to play an NBA season. They just know it,
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and they're just going to continue to play this out
as long as they can, where Zion is still seen
as an asset, where hey, no, we earlis parts of
these injuries. He's this, he's that. No, we want him
to come back, We want him to be explosive and
show you that he's great. But honestly, that's what I
think of I think if you had to say, what's
going on behind closed doors? All the evidence size he
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points to we know the guy is never going to
be healthy enough, and is he healthy enough to come
back now. Probably not like he could run up and
down the floor for a couple of times, but how
long is he going to make it in a game
before he can't do it anymore? And we want to
protect that, and when he actually does get on the floor,
we want to show that he's dominant. So we want
to kind of not keep it a secret, but just
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sort of, hey, we understand exactly what he can do
and what he's not going to be able to do,
and a long term career in the NBA is just
not in the cards. So what we're hoping is we
get him to play. He collect as much as money
as possible this season, maybe he gets another contract after this,
worth a lot of money. He still gets money from
the Jordan brand and the Zion gear that goes out there,
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but we know he is on borrowed time. It can
only play so much, so we're only going to let
him play out there in spurts because we know he's
gonna spurt for a little while and then he's not
gonna be able to play. Maybe it's fifteen games, maybe
it's thirty games, but eventually then because he's too big,
because his body can't handle it. Yeah, hamstring injury is
now something will cost him a season, you know, some
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kind of any kind of lower body injury. We're gonna
keep him out for a while, a back injury, whatever
it is. So I wonder if that they know that
he's never going to be able to play and they're
just kind of playing out the string as long as possible.
And it was not a three week hamstring injury, three months,
it turned out. And the guy hasn't turned twenty three yet.
And to be fair, when we're talking money owed to him,
(29:28):
they already, as you referenced, gave him the huge contract
extension that starts kicking in next season. He's still finishing
his original deal right now, drafted number one overall, and
then the team options picked up. That's what's ending right now.
So his salary that they haven't been paying, quote that
much for a guy with his talent the original few
(29:50):
years in the league. His salary is going from about
ten mill to thirty mills starting next year. Just to
know next year, oh that we're start paying him, Oh great, great,
I guess you could be saying, well, we don't. We
haven't really started paying him yet because he's been hurt
and did. The other other thing is no, no, no,
he still hasn't been healthy, and now now you're not
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gonna start paying him till next year. So I guess
it's kind of how you look at it. Do you
want to say, how glad we're not paying him now,
but then next year when he's not healthy, you're really
you're just starting out to pay him. Oh man, this
is really something. But again, you just can't count on
him ever again he and who knows how long he's
gonna play? Way more years. It's just he's not I'll
say it again, he's not a seven footer. He's not
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even six eight. And you can't be carrying that much weight.
I mean, at what two more years, three years? How
much long? Really? How much long do you think he
can play? Three more years? How much longer till he's
in the till he's there's a reason why Greg Oden
trends every time Zion trends. How long is he gonna play?
How long can he play? How much longer does he have? Really,
that's what it is. You can't count on him, and
you can look at his NBA career in a finite
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Today is a day game the Tampa Bay Rays one again.
They've now beaten four teams with losing records, some teams
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with big time losing records. But the Rays are now
thirteen and z to start the season, tying the modern
m LB record. That a seven run fifth inning tonight.
Harold Ramirez had a double to start the inning, had
a double to close the inning for So it was
a big, big night the Rays, matching the thirteen wins
(31:34):
start that the Braves had in eighty two and the
Brewers had in eighty seven. And they had actually over
twenty thousand people for that game today. Yeah, you'd think
at twelve and oh, if you know, you gotta be
able to draw at least half right, what's capacity thin.
It's true, it's not been a murderous row of opponents,
but they've been killing people left in right all season
so far. Yeah, and you gotta think, hey, we're twelve
(31:56):
and oh, what can we get fifteen percent of the ballpark? Well,
well we'll put fifty, said, We'll take a very small
ballpark will do it. It's like the most sense opening day.
We'll take it. Yeah, which again tells you about baseball
in Tampa. But that's not a conversation. Let let's talk
about it. Yeah, I hear. It's really tough to have
to cross the bridge. It does get very difficult. Well,
do you know sometimes if some people can't swim. I
(32:16):
don't know. I don't want anything that. I don't want
to cross the bridge. I don't want to do it.
The only long what are we doing here? Too soon?
Too soon? Really? The only longer streak to open the season,
I know, you know this, Steve was the twenty and
oh start by the eighteen eighty four Saint Louis Marou
of course of the Union Association, so not a major
(32:38):
league team. Uh no, but they did beat the Mets
in two series back then for some of those wings.
Marv Throneberry went, oh for eight, this is how this
is where the Rays are now, And yeah, are they
gonna get a lot of flak because they've played bad teams?
Of course they are. But thirteen, you know, is still
thirteen and oh. But to give you something a little
(32:59):
different about this start by the raise is that. I'm
telling you, we talked about this before the season started
that the race that I am looking forward to watching
the most is the AL East because it is going
to be murder because you have four teams that are
pretty good at least. Now look at the rain. Is
gonna come back? Of course, they lead the league in runs,
(33:21):
and they lead the league in most the fewest runs allowed. Yeah,
of course they're gonna come back to the pack. You
can't keep this up. They're gonna come back. But the
Blue Jays are really good, and the Yankees are really good,
and you know what, so are the Orioles. This is
one of those years where you're gonna see people throughout
the season going, oh, it's too bad we're in that
new Major League Baseball where you know, more teams make
(33:41):
the playoffs, because wow, what a great run this would
be with all these great teams, only one of them
is making the playoffs. But it doesn't matter. This is
going to be an unbelievable race in the American League East.
And I can't wait. Look it's gonna it's already started.
And yes, you know they're five games up, but they're
gonna come back. And it's gonna be awesome because this
is such a deep If there's no division that's this good,
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that that's that's four teams in it that can all
be played. Really, are you saying Harmon's White Sox that
division is not as deep as No, I'm gonna I'm
gonna count out the Royals and the Tigers a little bit,
I think, uh right right off the back, what's left
of the White Sox. Yeah, and look, if the Twins
keep scoring nine runs in the first thing against the
Yankees like they did today, they're gonna win games. But
(34:25):
this is gonna be some kind of run up, tell
we're we are in. This is going to be a
golden year to watch that race in the a Elias
because everybody's really good. Everybody's gonna win. They're gonna cannibalize
each other. It's gonna be awesome. And Toronto, who you
have mentioned as one of the good teams with this division,
is going to be hosting Tampa Bay starting tomorrow. So yeah,
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they might be five games back, but have a good weekend.
And that's all by the boards thirteen and oh start
or no, because there's more than one good team pursuing you.
Jason you clearly have never watched the Red Sox play
this season. Hey, but I gave you the four teams
that are good. I didn't mention the vision is all good. Yeah,
that's four part five teams. Yeah, okay, but somebody's got
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to come in last. The Mets usually do stop. We've
been good though. Your things just these punchlines just don't
work because the Mets are good. They just if the
Mets stunk, I would say, yeah, but the Mets are good.
I just watched Babe Ruth play the last three nights.
You wait to Max Munsey strikes out five times against
the Cubs to brow night. You know what's happening. You
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know it's up yeah, probably, yeah, but look, it's gonna
be an unbelievable rate. Hey, I can't wait. I mean,
this really is something, and you know who it's going
to really piss off the most. It's too awesome as
my dad. My dad's gonna go. Oh, you know, Boon
keeps getting thrown out. We gotta play the Blue Jays,
and we gotta play the Orios. There's no break in
the schedule for us. Now, now hold on, you're not
(35:50):
playing your division opponents nineteen times anymore. It's a more
balanced schedule people. It's like Max Munsey doesn't get to
face the Giants is often bad news for him with
the schedule this year instead, the Dodgers will be playing
the Yankees in Tampa Bay and Toronto and Baltimore this
year and every year. Yeah, it doesn't. It's not going
to change what he says though. That's not that's not
(36:11):
going to change. Oh you're saying the truth has no
effect on the opinion. No, no, no, no, the Yankees.
It's something is out there to screw the Yankees. That
that's the way my dad. Whenever something happens, there's two
people that there's two things that can screw the Yankees,
or three things, sorry either other. If you had a
pie chart of things you could screw the Yankees, according
to my dad, Okay, at one third of it would
(36:33):
be schedule injuries, all kinds of stuff. Um. Another third
of its Chapman and or the bullpen, because I would
because he's definitely not a fan of the bull every
time something happened. There are very few good bullpens so
far the Yankees. The Yankees could lose one nothing and
(36:56):
the starter could go all nine innings. He would go, yeah,
the bullpen really didn't help us to that, and the
other third would be Aaron Boot. So that it's the
third it's it's, it's, it's the bullpen, it's it's and
then it's Aaron Boot. Those are the three things my
dad blames. We used to have a Yankee fan working
here when Girardi was the manager and they were winning
the World Series back then, and all you all you'd
hear from Girardi, how how soon are they gonna fire
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Girardi's blame? Yeah, but Steve, come on, man, I think
we saw last year with the Phillies that kind of
what's Girardi's Yeah, well yeah, okay, bad example. My example
was more about the Yankee fan. It's just if there's
something to complain about, it doesn't matter if you've won
what is it twenty seven? It just whatever. Jason yet,
(37:39):
uh no, no, not yet, not yet. He's hit yet. No.
I think he said he's he's in like one fifty.
I think he's you know, he's got on basic good
and hold Jeta's Jack. He's kind of basically he's hitting
leadoff and he's hitting one eighty right, Okay, come on, Yankee.
So again again, I can't wait for this race because
it's gonna be so one fifth. Here's the average. It's
(38:01):
even better than one fifty eight. Okay, all right, because
I think he came into today hitting one eighty and
now he's hitting one fifty. Let's let you know he's doing.
He's really struggling at the plate. Let's put him up
the leadoff. Let's have leadoff. You know, Aaron Hicks is
also hitting one fifty eight seemingly for the last five years,
and he keeps getting starts. Yeah, but I mean, but
it was just it was just ten days ago that
(38:23):
that Volpi was Derek Jeeter. I mean ten days ago
he was there. Look at this. We got a new
guy and he had to do Derek Jena. Look at it.
He made the tea. What a great story is Okay,
let's see what happens when the fast balls fly for real.
Let let's let let's see what happens. Oh, what a surprise.
The guys struggling, and it wouldn't surprise Me'd have to
send him down right because he because he really isn't
handling it. It's been very difficult and he needs to
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go back down and get himself back to where he is.
He comes back up and he's not overwhelmed anymore. Oh
what a great Sorry, Okay, let's see. Let's see with
the fastballs. Meanwhile, they would still need a short step.
He had one single two strike. Yes, it's it's taken
Jared Kelnick like four different times of the marriage to
bring him up him to finally be good. And now
he's only good for about ten days. Right, So, oh
(39:05):
he's finally hit a home run last night. Yeah you
lost five to two. Yeah, you lost five to two.
Come on, I would say caution to everyone who gives
an unproven whatever the job, I mean, like hands him
the job. The Dodgers new second baseman this year, I'm
not convinced is gonna hit major league pitching yet. Oh,
Steve Sacks will be just fine. What's worried about. He's
gonna be great. That's just they've got two question marks
(39:28):
up the middle offensively with second base and shortstop. With
the Dodgers, this is not anywhere near the kind of
lineup that they've had in recent years. So for a
team that I won't even say fancies itself a competitor,
should be a competitor every year to just hand shortstop
to the ultimate in unproven. I mean the guy played
barely played at double A, didn't he volpi and they
(39:48):
hand him the shortstop job. Yeah, stay tuned. This is
not a This can't be permanent, Steve. We have the
Sultan of Swat. Can he play short and second? Well,
you have the Salt the Swat and you have James Outman,
you know clearly is never going to make another out
Muncy can get you thirty homers and hit one fifty eight.
The guys playing short and second for the Dodgers will
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get you nowhere near thirty homers and will hit one
for you're giving them. Well, look, I'm glad you brought
this up because this is a bit. This is a
big story out of the game. Right. We talked about
the Al East, the Yankees, Jason Smith, Steve Disager in
from Mike Harmon tonight. The Dodgers have started out very
undodgerlike because you are used to a different level of
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excellence over the past, you know, twelve years us of
them just steamrolling through teams with all kinds of talent
everything else. But it was a very different offseason for them.
They didn't go and spend a ton of money, likely
because they didn't see guys to go spend a ton
of money on. Maybe they're saving for Shoho Tani, but
more likely they're saving for the deadline or when they
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need to make a trade because they went all in
last year. You win one hundred and ten games, and
what happens you don't even make it to the NLCS.
So that that's I don't care what kind of team
you are, how rich you are, what kind of money
you have spending. That's where you stop and go, Okay,
was that really the right thing to do last year?
Do we really do the right thing by going all
out to win and we don't make it to the NLCS.
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I understand that you don't want to be in that
early round of playoff. I get it, But as you see,
you saw two teams in the early round of the
playoff last year and they moved on to play in
the NLCS. So yeah, I think this was a big
Hey wait a minute, let's dial it back a year.
Let's give the kids a chance to play, and if
it doesn't work, we can go make a move at
(41:34):
the deadline. Right if we want to go get Derek
Jeter out of retirement. We could trade James Outman to
go get him. Hey, hey, don't even suggest that out loud. Look,
because that's how I see the Dodgers progressing. And maybe
it's it's a big bid on show, hey Otani, but
you know the Angels are going to be that's the
last team they want to send them to. They'd rather
send him away, which now instead they should just cut
(41:55):
him and have the Dodgers sign him pact. Yes, that's
out of which gonna cut him, which is why the
Mets are gonna end up getting it, becase Steve Cohen
will I'm telling it's gonna happen. But the Dodgers are
a team. That's okay, let's stay afloat. We're five hundred.
As long as we're a little bit over five hundred,
we're fun. We're gonna make the playoffs, and then we'll
make the moves we need at the trade deadline. We'll
go get a couple of stars. We can then trade
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a couple of our younger players and figure things out. Now,
the Gavin Lux thing, look, that was a shame. It
took him by surprise. You're talking about a guy who
expected to play. They had handed him the job. Yeah,
and he because you needed to, right, because he had
shown enough to say we can give you the job
and you can be maybe one of our lynchpin. And
it was night and day compared to twenty twenty when
they were ready to give him a job and he
(42:37):
could not function in the major leagues at the play. Yeah,
it was. Yeah, some guys come up a little too early.
Every player is on is on his own timeline. But
that's that's such a huge thing. That's a huge setback
because you're talking about now a big hole that they
expected at that at the top of the order, in
the middle of the infield. So they're gonna sit back
and a lot of teams are gonna do the same thing.
Right the Mets when they lost Carlos Karred, they go
(43:00):
crazy to sign somebody. No, they kind of set back
and said, Okay, you're gonna see these rich teams wait
and they're gonna go at the deadline and go as
long as we're okay, let's go for it. Then why
are we doing it now when we don't know things
might not work out and then we're on the hook
for all the money we're paying these guys, and we
may have to start over again and we have to
lose guys. Let's just say, let's see where we are,
(43:22):
and if it's a good season for us, we'll go spend.
We'll spend it the deadline. We'll get somebody that's got
a couple of years left on their deal before they
hit free eight. We'll make a Sodo type deal potentially,
and that's when we'll go get our guys. And if
it's a bad year for us and it's not happening, okay,
we put it away. We wait till the offseason, we
go for next year. But it's not surprising to me
that this is what the Dodgers are doing. This what
(43:43):
a lot of teams are doing, because we come off
a year in Major League Baseball where it was, yeah,
we watched a couple of the best teams make it far,
but we watched a couple of teams at won eighty
seven eighty five games make it to the NLCS. So yeah,
it's a little bit different. So I get what the
Dodgers are doing. Does it mean they're done? Being the
Dodgers doesn't mean that all these other teams aren't done.
Spending doesn't mean the Mets are done spending anybody. It
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just means we're gonna wait a little while and we
want to be able to be peaking when we need
to peek. We want to peek at the end of
the season. We want to peek going into the playoffs.
It's a longer playoff now, longer rounds. We'll go get somebody.
Otani's gonna be the big prize, probably emit when it
comes to the deadline. But this is what baseball, This
is what the big teams are going to do right now. Okay,
we're now we're in position which is going to make
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a great trade deadline because a lot of teams are
going to be in on all the big stars that
they think are going to be the big difference makers.
So that's going to make the MLB trade deadline a
whole lot of fun. And what's giving the Dodgers far
more time in the future to think this through and
let it play out is that the Padres just aren't hitting.
And for all of the offseason hype. San Diego is
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about a five hundred team, just as the Dodgers are
about a five hundred teams. So far, nobody's running away
with the wells Wa t tease is hitting pretty well
in Triple A. It's right, he's still got another week
until he comes up to the majors and then a
somebody in the front office something else, until he gets
on his motorcycle again. Yeah, it'll be something. He'll have
one of those big back swings and the shoulder will
(45:08):
come out of place, and oh wow, look at you
putting that out there. He does it to himself. Something's
gonna come up. It's like, you know, it's like when
the Dodgers didn't give Manny Manny ram bears. You look,
you have the same thing. It's there was a headache coming.
There was a headache round the bend. It's the same
thing when the Dodgers acquired Manny Machado for exactly what
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you were saying trade deadline in twenty eighteen, made a
run through into the World Series, but thankfully did not
sign him to the ten year deal in the offseason,
because you would have had a headaches at some point
in the ten years
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