May 9, 2023 • 36 mins
Jason Smith and Mike Harmon discuss Game Four between the Lakers and Warriors, the incredible innocent between Nikola Jokic and Suns Owner Matt Ishbia, New York Knicks are going to flush this playoff run down the drain, and Jason La Canfora - Long time NFL Insider joins the guys!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
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Speaker 1 (00:29):
I wish I was still off after that nixt game.
I'm leaving. See you do a good show. Just followed
you here, Justef Frostburg talk about how the Lakers are back.
You can say that for four hours, then you break
down the game at the end.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
Potential is there. You know you missed one day. I
missed almost a full week. I didn't get anything. It
was like a damn coronation, like you should be wearing
a twenty million dollar.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Or going to Chicago. My brothers and I are going
to get drunk. My younger brother and I are getting drunk.
My other brother and I are going to get drunk. Oh,
I'm out here, I'm going to card show. I'm gonna
get drunk. That's everywhere. It's every other day for you.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
I don't remember ever talking about being drunk every other.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Day, every other day. That's how I'm leaving Wey. My
brothers are in Todd. I'm going to see my brothers.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
Now.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Yeah, you're hammered right now. I wish I was sure you.
I wish I was.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
You know what, I feel better about it. I'm glad
I'm not stone cold sober because if they'd won, then yeah,
I'd probably be drifting down and seeing what I could
fit in one of those brown paper bands.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
And we're never winning. Mike, Well, not what Jimmy Butler's playing. No,
stop stop let me. You can't stop him. You can
only hope to contain it. Just stop. I understand, Jimmy.
The knicks in the heat are the junior varsity. As
we get ready for the Lakers.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
Ado, I got all the air goes out of the
room once that tips off.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
That hasn't started yet, So we have time to talk
about this now. So all of you shut up. But
let me tell you what happened that makes me so
pissed off. So here's the thing, and this is what's
so frustrating about this series that he just beat the
Knicks one O nine, one on one. They lead the
series three games to one one. It's not that the
Heat are leading this series, right, because the Heat the
Knicks very similar during the regular season. You see how
(02:06):
well he'd have played them, and playing without Tyler Hero
it doesn't matter. But just watching the Knicks absolutely throw
up on themselves in the fourth quarter of this game,
where the Heat got seven offensive rebounds, seven possessions. I'm
watching this come down, going, how are the Knicks not
getting the ball? And I'm watching Julius Randall just absolutely
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take up space when he's on the floor in the
fourth quarter, not getting the ball, not moving the ball, complaining,
and it's awful because the Heat would take bad shots.
Doesn't matter. Kyle Lowry would get the defensive would get
the offensive rebound, or Robinson would get it, or Jimmy
Butler would get it, and the Heat would the Heat
would score and they would maintain that seven to eight
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point lead all the way through. That's the most frustrating
part is watching the Knicks embarrassing and putrid effort on
the glass getting the basketball where it was one guy.
It wasn't like, oh it was here's a rebound and
the ball is bouncing around, it gets tipped. It's one
guy will be in the middle of four Knicks and
they would go get the rebound, and jalb Brunson's playing on.
He's got no ankles and no toes left after some
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of his injuries, and he's still trying to keep him innute.
That's the most frustrating part about this series is that
it's not like the Heat are playing great. They're not
playing out of their shoes. They're not Hey, you can't
start Jimmy Butler scoring thirty eight a game, or you know,
they're they're shooting fifty percent from three point range. They
are not playing out of their shoes. And they're up
three games to one because the Knicks just stink because
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they have just this series just I don't know, they've
just lost their ability to be cohesive. And it's got
a couple of guys out there and look the injuries happen.
I get, oh, no a Manuel quickly, Yeah, I got
people get hurt in the playoffs. I can't say injuries
are an excuse. Everybody's dealing with injuries, but they have
lost any semblance of who they were, and the Heat
are playing B minus games B minus games, and they're
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up three games to one. Jimmy Butler had they had
a shot of him near the end of midway through
the fourth quarter after one of those offensive rebound put backs.
He's got a smile on his face, like, if they're
just gonna give us this, all right, I'll take it.
But the Heat are not playing well and they're up
three to one. Well, but that's just it.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
You don't have to right graded for the curve, you
get an A because you're about to survive in advance
and B minus effort. A win is a win, whether
it's by twenty or by a point. I mean, we'll
watch it in every other one of these playoffs series. Right,
Celtics might come out and beat the hell out of
the Sixers in their next game, only up one game. Right,
the total margin of victory doesn't matter. This isn't you
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know the uh greade age soccer or softball? What's our
margin victory over our phone? No, did you win the
game or didn't you?
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Right?
Speaker 3 (04:40):
Tie breakers don't matter. Best of seven, So for the
offensive rebounds, thirteen for the game for the Heat, you saw,
as you pointed out right, it's the hey, we've got numbers,
and then you stand around, what happens? A guy comes
knifing in, because all it takes is that one guy
to be an agitator to get a finger on the ball.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Chaos.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
You had a couple of times where you did have
two Nicks go to the basketball and guess what happened.
They fumbled it out of balance. Right, we saw every
permutation of that. But it's playoff basketball. This was not
gonna be a pretty series. Nobody thought that this was
gonna be the one that was aesthetically pleasing. Was kidding
themselves because every once in a while you get a
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little bit of a skirmish and immediately it's like, get
that beer roll from twenty years ago, get it up there.
And that's what we've seen time and again. And Jimmy
Butler is just the face you mentioned injuries, No oladipot,
no hero doesn't matter. It's a lot of production that
isn't there. Yeah, whoever, but you know you play who's
in the jerseys and your guy Brunson showing a lot
of heart. It's him and RJ. Barrett and unfortunately the
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love hate with Julius Randall. That relationship between fans and
scribes and radio talk show hosts like you, it's probably
on the downside once again.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
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should be. Here's the thing about Julius Randall is that
you play no stop. Frossburg's just going The Lakers are back.
(06:15):
That's all that's going on. The Lakers are back. You
ever say the Knicks are back again. You're out of
the studio. Frostburg's wife calling them phone and say, hey,
can you stop at the at Pavilions on the way
home and get milk? And the Lakers are back. The
Lakers are back, saying the Knicks are back again. Out
of here. The Lakers are back. The Lakers are back.
(06:36):
The Lakers are mad. No, the Knicks are not back
right now. They're not. But this is the part this
is about Julius Randall, is that you see this from
from teams. The Golden State Warriors are a great front
running team. Right, They're great front running. They're great from
their way behind. When they have to play the close games,
that's when they struggle a little bit. Right. You've seen players,
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you've seen teams, and you say, hey, when things go well,
we're good. And when you get out to a lead
and you can beat up on the other team, you're
front runners. Julius Randall is how do I say he
is a mental front runner? Like when when Juliet like
Julius Randall, either starts the game and he's really good
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and and you can tell this is a Julius Randle game.
It's gonna be thirty points and fifteen rebounds, or it's
gonna be a game where he's just gonna struggle and
he's not gonna not gonna be able to get the
ball he's gonna get he's gonna get torched defensively, which
is what happened in the fourth quarter. He doesn't get
the ball, doesn't get rebounds. And and for your second
best player, for your all star, that's supposed to be
a guy that you have to lead that is gonna
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help lead you to victory. He has so many games
where it's like the guy's just checked out and I
don't know how how into the game he is. I
don't know how how ready he is to play like
we could I can wake up and get we at
the good Julius Randall or at the bad Julius Randall,
And it's it's not a Julius Randall where hey, we
get him in a night where he just doesn't she
know he has a bad night shooting, he goes, you know,
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three for eighteen from the fourth, we have a night
where I don't know how engaged he is. And that's
the toughest thing about Randal is that that happens way
too much. And yeah, he's gonna bear the brunt of
all of this because with the Knicks down three to
one and on the cusp of losing, here's how your
narrative is gonna go. Jalen Brunson is our hero, right,
Everything everything they did here Brunson tried to bring him back,
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gets hurt, hits, free throws, everything he does, going to
the stands for balls. He's gonna be the guy saying
the Knicks need more guys like him. I am done
with Julius Randall, and he's gonna be the guy that's
gonna bear everything as far as what why did the
Knicks lose Julius Randall. Let's get rid of Julius Randall,
and it's gonna be like it was a year ago
when Randall comes off the big year of the year
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before in twenty twenty and he was bad. This year
he was good. But now it's gonna be it's his fault.
He's gonna bear the brunt of every little bit with
the knick ket knock. He got stuff.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
He finishes with twenty and nine to your point of
individual possessions down the stretch. And we watched this in
a number series. Go back to the Celtics. Right, the
aforementioned Celtics close games, they're looking around like that they've
never played each other with each other before, Right, hey,
do we take a time out? Do we push for
a shot? What are we doing here? Defensive rotations, et cetera.
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For your Nicks, you had ten points off the bench
outscored thirty two to ten the bench. The loss of
quickly obviously a big deal, But I mean that disparity
cannot stand. You got guys, Brunson on one leg, playing
forty four minutes, still put up thirty two and eleven.
But tell me he couldn't have benefited from a quick
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two minute stretch on the bench or a long commercial
timeout plus a little bit of arrest, so not really
getting much of anything. There only six rebounds to go
with those ten points off the bench. Kyle Lowry doing
more damage himself on the other side. And that's the
one thing with the Heat, even with those those missing players,
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is that you still have a guy likew that can
come in and take over. Nicks don't have that. And
if Julius Randall is going to be passive and again
the overall stat line, box score reading, it's.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Gonna look great if efficient.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
He did what he needed to. But really it's the
it's the team rebound. Like Tom Thibodeau, I wish I
had a split screen for those final five minutes of regulation,
right the near misses, the offensive rebounds, the miscommunications along
the baseline, you.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Got to.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
The threat and that's it. I needed a screen on you.
Here's uh, you know, your comprehensive look at a dying
Knicks fan waiter. Uh. The Tom Thibodeau pulling out whatever's
left of his hair, because what do you teach defense fundamentals, aggressiveness,
and none of those things were were available to your
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nicks in the final minutes of this game. Every opportunity
to claw back in and and they had some stretch
is right, even early on, it's like there's nothing there.
And then all of a sudden, there was like a
they flipped a switch and they were a bit more
aggressive getting to the rack and they're like, all right,
we got ourselves a game. And then down the stretch
that past passivity came right back.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
The our editors, who do a great job getting sound
together for us and and and editing things. They always
know when the knicks are not play. They know when
it's happening because they'll be doing their job and then
they'll hear because when in our pre show, like our
green room is right outside the editor's room, so they're
doing pre show eating mustard doritos, Hey the mustard, cursing,
Hey the hot mustard. Dodo's are pretty good, buddy, you
(11:35):
gave Oh that was pretty good. That was a good.
But they're sitting there doing their job, and all of
a sudden they hear in the back, what the hell
is that Randall, What are you doing? I saw that
coming to Ulius Randall when Randall got it taken away
from him in a big possess. It's like they just
hear it behind them. They know. Jason, are you really
still talking about the next we're gonna do free blood pressures?
(11:57):
Really still talking about the next? Well, he's got to
get it out of his system. This is gonna be
it at home. Okay. The Varsity game tip. Do you
want to just join it in progress? You just joined
it in progress, Alex, don't do that. It is Jared
Vanderbilt got a buddy, Jimmy. Jay see it's coming up,
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Jimmy all over the place. We're gonna be off by
one game. Mike. We set a sweep by the Heat.
We're gonna be off by one game, Jimmy. The end
of your Heat. Discover credit cards automatically double all the
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at discover dot com. Slash match. So yeah, so that's
where it is. The Heat are just playing. Okay. The
(12:45):
Knicks stink and they're handing them this series and that's
why I'm pissed because it's not like if I gave,
if you lose to a better And this was Jimmy
Butler going what what am I gonna do? Butler scoring
for it like he did in the first round. Okay,
they beat the hell out of you over the weekend.
They did, But it's bad that.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
That game was. I mean, that was That was the
worst Saturday of basketball. It was they i've seen in
recent not for me, no, no, for you. It was
great for for me. You were relegated to my phone.
I had got the first pick. What are you complaining
about it? But Saturday, those games were so bad. It's like,
all right now I've got w W backlash on my
big screen. I'm keeping an eye on soccer games on my.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
Always bring it back to w W A. You always
bring it back to you.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
Bring it back to the Knicks. Because which does America
care about Muslims? Do they care about bad Bunny and
Damian Preacher? They care about your damn nime w W
E wins.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
First of all, you have to say bad Bunnie, or
you can't say bad whatever the hell you have to
say it bad Bunny. That's how's my show. No it's not, oh,
it's your show, that's right. It is. Really it's yours.
It's not your name is on it. Well, but that
means I could my name's on it before your name
is on it. It's Jason's working on that. Are we
working on that? Let's fight right now. You don't want no,
(14:00):
I could, I guarantee then with my NIX hate right now,
I could so take you. I could sew town. There's
a lot of hate, Mike. I could take you. He's
gonna put that a lot of me already down right there.
It was that's a chocolate cover. I have this guy
beating Connor McGregor right now.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
With all that, let's get Frank the takeout and the
two of them can battle it out.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
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Speaker 1 (14:32):
But the three before have to be legendary because we
wouldn't have the fourth without the three. But we need
Lonnie Walker. We know they at least Bonnie Walker too,
and oh he's the only one that matters, and Lottie Walker.
But you got to give respect. I mean all the
way back to Lonnie Walker. The first they score fifteen points.
In the fourth, he's not Lonnie Walker. The fourth is
not there without Lonnie Walker.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
The fourth game, this is well, you know what I mean,
we at least have to give credit to Lonnie Walker.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
The third. Okay, sure, I mean, I have.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
No idea of the family history. And I hope I'm
not walking my son.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
That's okay, careful that list. It wouldn't be the first
time he said something without knowing anything. Good. Oh, I
just hit you with a Deans You were Steph Curry,
and I just had my hand out going not getting
a shot, not getting a good shot, Steph not getting
a good shot.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
Shot.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
See, there's a difference between it. I didn't need that.
I had a tight shirt. I had myself. It is
true I had that. I mean that, that is categorically true. Man.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
That was just you know, mean and cut me to
the quick, perhaps harsher than anything.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
Villain was really mean. It was kind of right there,
was very mad. It was kind of right there. It
was not me spirited. It was very funny.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
I mean, I haven't tried to just jam in more.
Talk about the Knicks we've been celebrating who was the
guy who said on the show tonight it's my show.
Who was the guy who said that? Was that me
or was that you? I think that one. Was he
trying to take ownership of the show. Yeah, exactly in
that moment.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
Exactly, you're the ones that But now this suddenly, now
you're upset about this, mister I'm taking over. Stab me
in the back.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
I don't know you were still here. You still have
to talk about the font, but other than that, it's
like suddenly I'm in a fright of the thirteenth movie
and I'm coming out to the wing.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
Are you okay? And then suddenly down the street the
ice picked through my head and it happened, was you
well in a Blackhawks sweatshirt and number one pick? They've
already sold two million dollars. Uh, there are two big
plays to get to, because we have to have the
conversation about Steph Curry and I know knb are Warriors
(16:34):
fans are gonna hate me. But now even the guys say,
I think Jason Smith is right. He's been saying this
for a long time. This is gonna be known as
the stop. I guess maybe maybe it's the stop. With
the Lakers up one and less than thirty seconds left
to go, the Warriors have the basketball. Steph Curry's got
it and the Lakers guard him one on one with
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Anthony Davis out at the perimeter. And this is how
the next two plays unfolded.
Speaker 5 (17:02):
Hey Curry dancing with Davis, lost the handle, teached the dribbles,
tend to shoot, Curry doing it himself here one foot
fade away, No good, it's ringing with.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
A rebound by wiggeds.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Not another chance for Golden State.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Curry long three, No, the rebound TNT on the call.
Steph Curry could not shake Anthony Davis, and he put
up two off balance shots that weren't close. They got
lucky and fortunate to get the offensive rebound. The first time.
Steph puts up a twenty eight footer, which again twenty
eight footer from Steph. Okay, he makes those. Jordan Pool
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does not. But this was still Jordan Poole didn't even
get out of the course. This was this was still
an off balance shot. And the Lakers get the rebound,
They hit their free throws, and they win one oh
four to one oh one.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
I've seen not screen him off though they try to
do something no.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
Matter where he went. Watching it is like watching Stephan
because I say it all the time. At this point,
if you are Steve Kerr, you have to say, we
need something else for the end of game, better than
Steph get a shot, because that's killed them in this
series now two games. Whether it's Steph being older, or
the defense on him, or the fact of what I've said,
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he has a problem at the end of close games.
He's not as effective because he can't get his own
shot because he's too small. He's too small, he can't
get around, he can't muscle anybody. And as you saw here,
where was he going Anthony Davis? Anthony was looked like
he was three times as big as Steph Curry, and
Steph Curry wasn't gonna be able to dribble around him
at all, Like that was not gonna happen. They cleared
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out for Steph. And I'm sure what the Warrior thought was,
We're gonna clear out for Steph. The Lakers will throw
two defenders at him, and now he got it. And
instead when the Lakers came out with a D they
were stuck. Right, You also have Draymond on the floor,
who's not gonna shoot. So that's a big thing because
that's an option that's not gonna happen. So Steph is
out there trying to dribble his way around Ad. There
(19:02):
was no creativity. There was just Steph, You're gonna take
the shot. Nothing.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
Nobody steps in to try to put a body and
make Ad nothing.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
It was these two shots for Steph Curry, and Steph misses,
both of them, misses them off balance. These were not
great shots. But this is nothing new because I've told
you at the end of games he is not nearly
as effective because he can't get his own shot off.
Yet they keep going to him and saying, Steph, make
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it happen. At this point, you would think Steve Carr
would say, hmm, I'm a big basketball mine. Just giving
the ball to Steph doesn't work. We get other guys
can make shots. Klay Thompson has made pretty big shots,
so if Steph can't get his shot, why force him.
If Steph was six to seven and could dribble, rent okay, great.
But no matter how you want to argue with me about, oh,
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Steph is still great. Seve, you put two defenders on him.
What's he gonna do? You put one defender on him
here he couldn't get a shot off. Why because he's
too small and he can't dribble by ad. He's not
fast enough to go all the way by ad. Could
just he can get buy a d by two steps.
AG's gotta put his arm out and I'm blocking this
shot and it's going up. That's what happens, and people
don't get it at the end of games. Steph Curry
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is not the same. He's not All superstars at the
end of games are not created equally. Because if you
can't get your own shot off, guess what you have
trouble at the end of games. This is not Steph
Curry's thing. And you would think Steve Kerr by this
point would say, hmmm, something better than just Steph creates
something to do. It's gotta be on the table, whether
it's clay, whether it's Wiggins, whoever it is, it's gotta
(20:34):
be something because this is just not working. And this
is two games that the worries of loss at the
end because Steph can't get his own shot off. They
lose when he passes out of the double and Jordan
Poole misses the twenty eight footer when they had no
other play planned. And that's what I can't get over,
this lack of planning or this lack of being able
to execute. This is a team that's won four championships.
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This is a team that's won a lot these either,
these three guys have been together for a long long time,
and still this is the best they get. And the
Lakers have said, you keep doing this. We have now
beat you twice, mister best point guard of all time
at the end of games, because you can't get your
shot off. We did it with two guys. The first game.
We brought out Ad for you on here, and I
mean it. That was as good as the NBA gets.
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Steph trying everything he can to get around ad Ad
not moving getting up. It's kind of like watching Kevin
Love when he was out in the perimeter on Steph
Curry when the Cavaliers beat the Warriors in the NBA Finals,
came down from down three to one. That big possession
in Game seven where Steph is trying to get around
and Kevin Love is out on him and he's not
moving and Steph can't get that shot off. That's a
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big deal. It's been a big deal for a long time.
But people want to blow it off because Steph's a
great player and he's got this great image. And I
understand all of these things about Steph Curry, but you
have to understand what I'm telling you the truth, because
I'm not wrong about Steph Curry. In the end of games,
you got to figure out something else. Well, but that's
just it.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
You have all these instances, and the way you style
your offense is to run him or playoff screens, spot up,
what have you. And in these pivotal moments, it's let's
go against the best defensive player in the game when
he's on his game right, when Anthony Davis is sound
and ready to go, nobody alters shots at the rate
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he does. I think we can all stipulate to that.
And whether that's under the basket or twenty eight feet away,
he's just as effective because he's still got good footwork
and that wingspan.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
He almost took it away from him before his first
shot off. He almost got an open floor steel on
steps first.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
So he gets the first shot up right, little runner
off balance whatever missus badly, Warriors get the offensive rebound
and he immediately calls for it thinking he's got enough
time to get the shot off. And the closing ability
of eighty because he didn't slump fully back into the
lane right, took a step or two off and then
immediately right back is like an outfielder right your first
(22:56):
STEP's got to be back. And this was where Steph
he's seeking missile. First step back and immediately get that
arm up to force a change of trajectory for Steph
to take another step backwards instead of forwards, and you
get the rainbow shot that misses, and eventually they're able
to clear clear the ball.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
But this is where you know.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
Having a guy like Jordan Poole that you can't trust
on the court is also a big deal, not just
because of that shot. And we can argue to were
blue in the face, good shot, bad shot, time out,
all of those things that could have been done, screen out,
try to try to find an open space because you
have time in this case, final seconds and shot selection
all Jordan pooled last two games two to thirteen from
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the field five total points, zero for six from three.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
Is not good. He played ten minutes tonight and went scoreless.
Not good. Mike. Look, this is he had a good run.
This is part of Also now you want to get
bigger than just another shooter that you don't have. Yeah,
and you look and Clay had a bad night. But
sure Clay has made big shots.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
And Clay's also had some really bad shooting nights. Again,
owing to that Lakers defense. Through this series, I've told
you all the time. We'll get into that coming up
in a few minutes. I've told you about the Lakers defense. Uh,
it's great.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
It's a little bit the whole thing. I told you so,
I told you. But that's the other part. Now you
want to widen this out for the Warriors, and this
is why they're a team that was a few games
over five hundred. They hit the playoffs, they won a
couple of games on the road, and suddenly you saw everybody.
Oh they're back, man, they're back. They were just waiting
for this. Look at this, they're back. The Warriors are
not the team they were. Their young players have not ascended.
(24:27):
Jordan Poole has not ascended like they thought he would. Right.
Kaminga can't even get on the floor, he doesn't play.
Wiggins is not the same guy he was when he
was an All Star last year and for a lot
of this year. Draymond doesn't shoot anymore and Clay struggles
way more than he used to. This is just the
natural hate. The Warriors have gotten older and dynasty's end
(24:48):
when the new players coming in don't play like the
old players do. When the Warriors dynasty was at its best,
they had guys coming off the bench that were fantastic
all the time. And not that you suddenly you would
have bench guys at the taking shots. But when Stephan
Clay used to leave games with an eight point lead,
they would come back. Some times it would be a
fourteen point lead. And now they're coming back in and
it was, oh, look at this. But that's the bigger
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part of this is that this is not the same
Warriors team. They seem like the same because it's Steph
and it's Clay and Straymond and it's Wakens. They're great
and as Steve Carr, these seem like it's the same,
but it's not. Every team left in the playoffs is fallible, right,
This is a even though it's three to one, this
is a close series. It's a close series. The Lakers
were able to hold off the Warriors at the end
(25:31):
of games a couple of different times. But this is
a close series. The Warriors are not the same as
they were last year, and that's why they are where
they are, down three to one in the second round
of the NBA play.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
You've got nine points between Pool and Clay Top nine nine?
Speaker 1 (25:45):
Nine Is that good? Look at fifteen? Is that good?
I just wanted to say nine.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
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Speaker 1 (26:00):
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Speaker 4 (26:11):
Jay? What's going on? Gentlemen?
Speaker 1 (26:14):
Jay? I'm just wondering how many more teams are gonna
call Andrew Luck just to upset Jim Orsay, Like, how
many more they don't even want him to come back,
they just want to call him just say they know
it's gonna upset him.
Speaker 4 (26:26):
Yeah. I mean, look, this guy is like he's just
trolling for draft picks, right, He's looking for somebody to
throw them the bone. And yeah, it's it's kind of
a wild goose search. But that's the NFL, right, Like
it's they kind of make stuff up as they go along,
and when you have a situation, it's like the tampering
(26:46):
case with the Johnson Gannon situation with the Cardinals, and
then all of a sudden, you know, cloak and dagger,
we get this announcement right before the draft starts. About compensate,
he said, yeah, I got you know, it's it's sort
of a Pandora's box that other people will want to
(27:08):
get a piece of. But I don't know, man, like
it is the owners would do that, like you know
what I mean, Like, I'm just thinking about the tweet
that he sent out. I mean, there's been a lot
of tweets over a long period of time, and I
guess I should be casting no stones here because I've
sent in my share of ridiculous tweets. But like there
(27:31):
was the one you know about should we you know,
should we take will love Us at the top of
you know, the second round, And now there's you know this,
like I don't know, man, like Andrew look's not playing
football anymore, so what's the you know what I mean,
You're really that worried about his contractual rights, Like he's
he clearly wouldn't come back with any other team. You'd still,
(27:54):
I guess, have some say over it if if he
wanted to. And the bottom line is he's completely happily retired. Like,
what's it been five years?
Speaker 1 (28:04):
Yeah, it's been a minute. I mean, you just drafted
this kid that you supposedly loved to death. So why
why are you.
Speaker 4 (28:11):
Worried about this crap? I mean, I don't know. I
can't figure it out.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
Is Jim mersay? That's what he does?
Speaker 3 (28:17):
So out there in Baltimore Land, six thousand yards, how
are we feeling?
Speaker 4 (28:22):
Yeah, that's that's you know, let's get the four first.
Speaker 3 (28:25):
You know, I was gonna say, let's get back to
three thousand or maybe thirty five hundred.
Speaker 4 (28:29):
Yeah, yeah, And we've never hit four, you know in
this iteration. And honestly, I'm trying to think, I don't
know the Flaco ever hit for either I'm in front
of me. But this has not been a place where
the ball goes through the air a whole lot, you know,
with a lot of volume, with a lot of accuracy,
(28:49):
with a lot of deep ball volume, Like it's this.
This city has been about defense in the run game,
you know, really since probably the second or third year
of the Ravens. You know, they came in and they
were what they were where they basically were the Cleveland Browns,
you know, and you had guys like Michael Jackson, he
you know, fifteen hundred yard receiving and fourteen touchdowns or whatever.
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But as they became the Baltimore Ravens, and as they
built the franchise on Jonathan Ogden and ray Lewis, it
really became about a certain style of play. So I
don't know about six, but for should certainly be within
reason and as much as the AFC is tough, I
(29:36):
will find out on Thursday with what the exact schedule
is if you just look at them.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
Yeah, but will we really find out? I mean we
may find out, we may not find out. We're going
to find out. I don't know, man, something's happening there.
Speaker 4 (29:46):
Well, I think we're finding out. I mean, I mean
I think the people over there, you know, Culver City
at NFL Network or if that's even where they still are.
I guess no. Now they're at the new Stadium, so
it's not Culver City. It's been a minute since I
worked there. Whatever, They've got three hours of programming plan,
so I think that that's going to happen. I assume
(30:06):
that's going to happen.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
See, I'm just thinking.
Speaker 4 (30:10):
This schedule is gonna look that terrible one way or
the other. We know where they're playing at home, we
know where they're playing on the road, and I don't
think it's again. Even though the AFC is tough and
their divisions tough, I don't think it's going to be
murderers Row from a defensive standpoint. So yeah, four thousand,
five hundred yards something like that. I would aim for
(30:30):
that before I go sixt G.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
All right, now, let me throw this at you. Jason
locking forward us here the Jason Smiths are with Mike Harmon.
We saw a couple of bang bang statements today regarding
Aaron Rodgers and the Jets. One from new Jets offensive
lineman Billy Turner, who said, you know, Rogers was checked
out on green Bay. Green Bay Today talked about moving
on to Jordan love from Aaron Rodgers. Brian Gudokun said, yeah,
(30:55):
we wanted Aaron Rodgers back for this year as long
as he was all bought in and we couldn't get
that from him. Now, I know you are not high
on Aaron Rodgerson the nets, but can you now, can
you at least throw it out there that potentially, okay,
we could get a bit of a bounce back because
part of it is he was checked out last year.
(31:15):
He was checked out last year and it wasn't quite
what should have been.
Speaker 4 (31:19):
So you think you're gonna look at it as a
net positive that a guy he was only making fifty
million last year, not sixty. He was only making fifty
and he'd been with that organization forever, and he put
the gun to their head a couple of times to
get everything he wanted. Like Bright, he became the de
facto GM again. He had roster authority. He's saying, get
(31:43):
me this, don't get me that. I'll show up when
I want to show up. Oh whatever, I'll say whatever
I want to say to McAfee, I'll do whatever I
want to do. You guys will just deal with it.
And then things don't go swimmingly. So he just you know,
waves the white flag pack, you know, pulls the shoot
and says, yeah, I'll wait to see who gives me
the sixty somewhere else next year. I'm sorry. I can't
(32:06):
look at any of that for you know, a forty
year old quarterback and say that's good. That say that
that that pretends good things, especially when he I still
don't think he really has gotten his mind around exactly
what he's gotten himself into. From a quoit like sort
of a lifestyle standpoint, from a media standpoint, from an
(32:30):
offensive line standpoint, I just no, I don't think that's good.
I think that shows you just how willing he is
to make it all about him and his mind and
incubate himself from anything on the outside and sell himself
tales of you know, ulterior or secondary realities where he
(32:56):
can never really be at fault and it's always something else.
And I don't know, man, no, I do. I think
he pulled the shoot last year. I think he's pulled
the shoot for a couple of years. I mean, I
think there were a lot of games at the end
of the the Mike McCarthy area where I would talk
to people who face them and like, hey, did you
rewatch that film and what did you think? Like we
(33:17):
think he's trying to get the guy fired, Like so
I just don't think someone who's capable of that, whose
skills are now eroding, who's going to a new place,
who has the path of least resistance as the offensive
coordinator Hackett, who's under his thumb, who was a fraud
as a coach in Denver, and you know who was
you know, glorified busboy in Green Bay, like he wasn't
(33:38):
running that offense like Aaron Rodgers will dictate everything to
Nathaniel Hackett. He will get whatever he wants out of
Nathaniel Hackett. Like this feels and smells so much like
end of the Road Ben Roethlisberger, except at least there,
you know, it was in one place and Tomlin could
kind of handle it and they were gonna win at
least nine games every year. That's not the Jets. And
(34:02):
Pittsburgh's a different market than New York. And this guy
just got there, like and he couldn't commit to going
to every ota. No, I don't think it's going to
end well.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
So so you're not throwing out there potentially for the
bounce back. Okay, let me because you were kind of
well that kind of danced around that Jay kind of
danced so willing.
Speaker 4 (34:21):
To be like Oh yeah, Well he just you know,
he just pulled a shoot on those guys last year. Like, no,
that's not a good thing. I'm sorry. I think it
kind of speaks to his character at this point.
Speaker 3 (34:32):
See I like that it now extends to Robert Solid
going after Mackay Becton.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
How about you?
Speaker 4 (34:39):
Well, I mean, I don't pluck. I don't blame Sala
for saying what he's saying because mckaid Beckden obviously his
career has been uh has left something to be desired
to this point in time. But the reality is there's
not a whole lot of there there as a tackle
position for this team. And this guy doesn't want to
be hit anymore and he doesn't want to push the
(35:02):
ball downfield anymore, so you can't protect him at this stage.
I think he's going to be in the business and
protecting himself, which I don't think lens itself to you know,
transcendent offensive football.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
Let me ask you that one last quick one, Jason
is going back to the scheduling. Wouldn't the battle of
the networks now that there's more of a free for
all be better viewing than a lot of the actual draft?
Speaker 4 (35:27):
Oh what goes on behind the scenes. Yeah, Hey, like
sending people to stake out, like Howard Katz when he
goes to the bathroom inside the League Officers of the
Park Avenue and hey, hey, you know, slipping something under
the stall. Yeah. I don't know how cloak and dagger
it is, but we are in a brave new world
here where the obviously the rights aren't gold out quite
(35:50):
like they used to be. And we don't have you know,
one network as being the de facto network of one
conference and the other. So yeah, it'll be an interesting little,
uh you know, exercise here and seeing how this all
plays out.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
You can follo him on Twitter at Jason Locke and
Foura that is at Jason Locke and for to check
out his latest on the Washington Post or on Odyssey Jay.
As always, buddy, appreciate it, my friend. We'll talk to
you next week.
Speaker 4 (36:14):
Have funn Thank you guys, have a good week.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
See you, Jason,
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Speaker 1 (00:29):
I wish I was still off after that nixt game.
I'm leaving. See you do a good show. Just followed
you here, Justef Frostburg talk about how the Lakers are back.
You can say that for four hours, then you break
down the game at the end.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
Potential is there. You know you missed one day. I
missed almost a full week. I didn't get anything. It
was like a damn coronation, like you should be wearing
a twenty million dollar.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Or going to Chicago. My brothers and I are going
to get drunk. My younger brother and I are getting drunk.
My other brother and I are going to get drunk. Oh,
I'm out here, I'm going to card show. I'm gonna
get drunk. That's everywhere. It's every other day for you.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
I don't remember ever talking about being drunk every other.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Day, every other day. That's how I'm leaving Wey. My
brothers are in Todd. I'm going to see my brothers.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
Now.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Yeah, you're hammered right now. I wish I was sure you.
I wish I was.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
You know what, I feel better about it. I'm glad
I'm not stone cold sober because if they'd won, then yeah,
I'd probably be drifting down and seeing what I could
fit in one of those brown paper bands.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
And we're never winning. Mike, Well, not what Jimmy Butler's playing. No,
stop stop let me. You can't stop him. You can
only hope to contain it. Just stop. I understand, Jimmy.
The knicks in the heat are the junior varsity. As
we get ready for the Lakers.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
Ado, I got all the air goes out of the
room once that tips off.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
That hasn't started yet, So we have time to talk
about this now. So all of you shut up. But
let me tell you what happened that makes me so
pissed off. So here's the thing, and this is what's
so frustrating about this series that he just beat the
Knicks one O nine, one on one. They lead the
series three games to one one. It's not that the
Heat are leading this series, right, because the Heat the
Knicks very similar during the regular season. You see how
(02:06):
well he'd have played them, and playing without Tyler Hero
it doesn't matter. But just watching the Knicks absolutely throw
up on themselves in the fourth quarter of this game,
where the Heat got seven offensive rebounds, seven possessions. I'm
watching this come down, going, how are the Knicks not
getting the ball? And I'm watching Julius Randall just absolutely
(02:26):
take up space when he's on the floor in the
fourth quarter, not getting the ball, not moving the ball, complaining,
and it's awful because the Heat would take bad shots.
Doesn't matter. Kyle Lowry would get the defensive would get
the offensive rebound, or Robinson would get it, or Jimmy
Butler would get it, and the Heat would the Heat
would score and they would maintain that seven to eight
(02:46):
point lead all the way through. That's the most frustrating
part is watching the Knicks embarrassing and putrid effort on
the glass getting the basketball where it was one guy.
It wasn't like, oh it was here's a rebound and
the ball is bouncing around, it gets tipped. It's one
guy will be in the middle of four Knicks and
they would go get the rebound, and jalb Brunson's playing on.
He's got no ankles and no toes left after some
(03:08):
of his injuries, and he's still trying to keep him innute.
That's the most frustrating part about this series is that
it's not like the Heat are playing great. They're not
playing out of their shoes. They're not Hey, you can't
start Jimmy Butler scoring thirty eight a game, or you know,
they're they're shooting fifty percent from three point range. They
are not playing out of their shoes. And they're up
three games to one because the Knicks just stink because
(03:30):
they have just this series just I don't know, they've
just lost their ability to be cohesive. And it's got
a couple of guys out there and look the injuries happen.
I get, oh, no a Manuel quickly, Yeah, I got
people get hurt in the playoffs. I can't say injuries
are an excuse. Everybody's dealing with injuries, but they have
lost any semblance of who they were, and the Heat
are playing B minus games B minus games, and they're
(03:52):
up three games to one. Jimmy Butler had they had
a shot of him near the end of midway through
the fourth quarter after one of those offensive rebound put backs.
He's got a smile on his face, like, if they're
just gonna give us this, all right, I'll take it.
But the Heat are not playing well and they're up
three to one. Well, but that's just it.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
You don't have to right graded for the curve, you
get an A because you're about to survive in advance
and B minus effort. A win is a win, whether
it's by twenty or by a point. I mean, we'll
watch it in every other one of these playoffs series. Right,
Celtics might come out and beat the hell out of
the Sixers in their next game, only up one game. Right,
the total margin of victory doesn't matter. This isn't you
(04:32):
know the uh greade age soccer or softball? What's our
margin victory over our phone? No, did you win the
game or didn't you?
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Right?
Speaker 3 (04:40):
Tie breakers don't matter. Best of seven, So for the
offensive rebounds, thirteen for the game for the Heat, you saw,
as you pointed out right, it's the hey, we've got numbers,
and then you stand around, what happens? A guy comes
knifing in, because all it takes is that one guy
to be an agitator to get a finger on the ball.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Chaos.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
You had a couple of times where you did have
two Nicks go to the basketball and guess what happened.
They fumbled it out of balance. Right, we saw every
permutation of that. But it's playoff basketball. This was not
gonna be a pretty series. Nobody thought that this was
gonna be the one that was aesthetically pleasing. Was kidding
themselves because every once in a while you get a
(05:19):
little bit of a skirmish and immediately it's like, get
that beer roll from twenty years ago, get it up there.
And that's what we've seen time and again. And Jimmy
Butler is just the face you mentioned injuries, No oladipot,
no hero doesn't matter. It's a lot of production that
isn't there. Yeah, whoever, but you know you play who's
in the jerseys and your guy Brunson showing a lot
of heart. It's him and RJ. Barrett and unfortunately the
(05:43):
love hate with Julius Randall. That relationship between fans and
scribes and radio talk show hosts like you, it's probably
on the downside once again.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
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you play no stop. Frossburg's just going The Lakers are back.
(06:15):
That's all that's going on. The Lakers are back. You
ever say the Knicks are back again. You're out of
the studio. Frostburg's wife calling them phone and say, hey,
can you stop at the at Pavilions on the way
home and get milk? And the Lakers are back. The
Lakers are back, saying the Knicks are back again. Out
of here. The Lakers are back. The Lakers are back.
(06:36):
The Lakers are mad. No, the Knicks are not back
right now. They're not. But this is the part this
is about Julius Randall, is that you see this from
from teams. The Golden State Warriors are a great front
running team. Right, They're great front running. They're great from
their way behind. When they have to play the close games,
that's when they struggle a little bit. Right. You've seen players,
(06:56):
you've seen teams, and you say, hey, when things go well,
we're good. And when you get out to a lead
and you can beat up on the other team, you're
front runners. Julius Randall is how do I say he
is a mental front runner? Like when when Juliet like
Julius Randall, either starts the game and he's really good
(07:16):
and and you can tell this is a Julius Randle game.
It's gonna be thirty points and fifteen rebounds, or it's
gonna be a game where he's just gonna struggle and
he's not gonna not gonna be able to get the
ball he's gonna get he's gonna get torched defensively, which
is what happened in the fourth quarter. He doesn't get
the ball, doesn't get rebounds. And and for your second
best player, for your all star, that's supposed to be
a guy that you have to lead that is gonna
(07:37):
help lead you to victory. He has so many games
where it's like the guy's just checked out and I
don't know how how into the game he is. I
don't know how how ready he is to play like
we could I can wake up and get we at
the good Julius Randall or at the bad Julius Randall,
And it's it's not a Julius Randall where hey, we
get him in a night where he just doesn't she
know he has a bad night shooting, he goes, you know,
(07:58):
three for eighteen from the fourth, we have a night
where I don't know how engaged he is. And that's
the toughest thing about Randal is that that happens way
too much. And yeah, he's gonna bear the brunt of
all of this because with the Knicks down three to
one and on the cusp of losing, here's how your
narrative is gonna go. Jalen Brunson is our hero, right,
Everything everything they did here Brunson tried to bring him back,
(08:20):
gets hurt, hits, free throws, everything he does, going to
the stands for balls. He's gonna be the guy saying
the Knicks need more guys like him. I am done
with Julius Randall, and he's gonna be the guy that's
gonna bear everything as far as what why did the
Knicks lose Julius Randall. Let's get rid of Julius Randall,
and it's gonna be like it was a year ago
when Randall comes off the big year of the year
(08:41):
before in twenty twenty and he was bad. This year
he was good. But now it's gonna be it's his fault.
He's gonna bear the brunt of every little bit with
the knick ket knock. He got stuff.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
He finishes with twenty and nine to your point of
individual possessions down the stretch. And we watched this in
a number series. Go back to the Celtics. Right, the
aforementioned Celtics close games, they're looking around like that they've
never played each other with each other before, Right, hey,
do we take a time out? Do we push for
a shot? What are we doing here? Defensive rotations, et cetera.
(09:13):
For your Nicks, you had ten points off the bench
outscored thirty two to ten the bench. The loss of
quickly obviously a big deal, But I mean that disparity
cannot stand. You got guys, Brunson on one leg, playing
forty four minutes, still put up thirty two and eleven.
But tell me he couldn't have benefited from a quick
(09:35):
two minute stretch on the bench or a long commercial
timeout plus a little bit of arrest, so not really
getting much of anything. There only six rebounds to go
with those ten points off the bench. Kyle Lowry doing
more damage himself on the other side. And that's the
one thing with the Heat, even with those those missing players,
(09:57):
is that you still have a guy likew that can
come in and take over. Nicks don't have that. And
if Julius Randall is going to be passive and again
the overall stat line, box score reading, it's.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Gonna look great if efficient.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
He did what he needed to. But really it's the
it's the team rebound. Like Tom Thibodeau, I wish I
had a split screen for those final five minutes of regulation,
right the near misses, the offensive rebounds, the miscommunications along
the baseline, you.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Got to.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
The threat and that's it. I needed a screen on you.
Here's uh, you know, your comprehensive look at a dying
Knicks fan waiter. Uh. The Tom Thibodeau pulling out whatever's
left of his hair, because what do you teach defense fundamentals, aggressiveness,
and none of those things were were available to your
(10:53):
nicks in the final minutes of this game. Every opportunity
to claw back in and and they had some stretch
is right, even early on, it's like there's nothing there.
And then all of a sudden, there was like a
they flipped a switch and they were a bit more
aggressive getting to the rack and they're like, all right,
we got ourselves a game. And then down the stretch
that past passivity came right back.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
The our editors, who do a great job getting sound
together for us and and and editing things. They always
know when the knicks are not play. They know when
it's happening because they'll be doing their job and then
they'll hear because when in our pre show, like our
green room is right outside the editor's room, so they're
doing pre show eating mustard doritos, Hey the mustard, cursing,
Hey the hot mustard. Dodo's are pretty good, buddy, you
(11:35):
gave Oh that was pretty good. That was a good.
But they're sitting there doing their job, and all of
a sudden they hear in the back, what the hell
is that Randall, What are you doing? I saw that
coming to Ulius Randall when Randall got it taken away
from him in a big possess. It's like they just
hear it behind them. They know. Jason, are you really
still talking about the next we're gonna do free blood pressures?
(11:57):
Really still talking about the next? Well, he's got to
get it out of his system. This is gonna be
it at home. Okay. The Varsity game tip. Do you
want to just join it in progress? You just joined
it in progress, Alex, don't do that. It is Jared
Vanderbilt got a buddy, Jimmy. Jay see it's coming up,
(12:23):
Jimmy all over the place. We're gonna be off by
one game. Mike. We set a sweep by the Heat.
We're gonna be off by one game, Jimmy. The end
of your Heat. Discover credit cards automatically double all the
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at discover dot com. Slash match. So yeah, so that's
where it is. The Heat are just playing. Okay. The
(12:45):
Knicks stink and they're handing them this series and that's
why I'm pissed because it's not like if I gave,
if you lose to a better And this was Jimmy
Butler going what what am I gonna do? Butler scoring
for it like he did in the first round. Okay,
they beat the hell out of you over the weekend.
They did, But it's bad that.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
That game was. I mean, that was That was the
worst Saturday of basketball. It was they i've seen in
recent not for me, no, no, for you. It was
great for for me. You were relegated to my phone.
I had got the first pick. What are you complaining
about it? But Saturday, those games were so bad. It's like,
all right now I've got w W backlash on my
big screen. I'm keeping an eye on soccer games on my.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
Always bring it back to w W A. You always
bring it back to you.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
Bring it back to the Knicks. Because which does America
care about Muslims? Do they care about bad Bunny and
Damian Preacher? They care about your damn nime w W
E wins.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
First of all, you have to say bad Bunnie, or
you can't say bad whatever the hell you have to
say it bad Bunny. That's how's my show. No it's not, oh,
it's your show, that's right. It is. Really it's yours.
It's not your name is on it. Well, but that
means I could my name's on it before your name
is on it. It's Jason's working on that. Are we
working on that? Let's fight right now. You don't want no,
(14:00):
I could, I guarantee then with my NIX hate right now,
I could so take you. I could sew town. There's
a lot of hate, Mike. I could take you. He's
gonna put that a lot of me already down right there.
It was that's a chocolate cover. I have this guy
beating Connor McGregor right now.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
With all that, let's get Frank the takeout and the
two of them can battle it out.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern seven
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Speaker 1 (14:32):
But the three before have to be legendary because we
wouldn't have the fourth without the three. But we need
Lonnie Walker. We know they at least Bonnie Walker too,
and oh he's the only one that matters, and Lottie Walker.
But you got to give respect. I mean all the
way back to Lonnie Walker. The first they score fifteen points.
In the fourth, he's not Lonnie Walker. The fourth is
not there without Lonnie Walker.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
The fourth game, this is well, you know what I mean,
we at least have to give credit to Lonnie Walker.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
The third. Okay, sure, I mean, I have.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
No idea of the family history. And I hope I'm
not walking my son.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
That's okay, careful that list. It wouldn't be the first
time he said something without knowing anything. Good. Oh, I
just hit you with a Deans You were Steph Curry,
and I just had my hand out going not getting
a shot, not getting a good shot, Steph not getting
a good shot.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
Shot.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
See, there's a difference between it. I didn't need that.
I had a tight shirt. I had myself. It is
true I had that. I mean that, that is categorically true. Man.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
That was just you know, mean and cut me to
the quick, perhaps harsher than anything.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
Villain was really mean. It was kind of right there,
was very mad. It was kind of right there. It
was not me spirited. It was very funny.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
I mean, I haven't tried to just jam in more.
Talk about the Knicks we've been celebrating who was the
guy who said on the show tonight it's my show.
Who was the guy who said that? Was that me
or was that you? I think that one. Was he
trying to take ownership of the show. Yeah, exactly in
that moment.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
Exactly, you're the ones that But now this suddenly, now
you're upset about this, mister I'm taking over. Stab me
in the back.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
I don't know you were still here. You still have
to talk about the font, but other than that, it's
like suddenly I'm in a fright of the thirteenth movie
and I'm coming out to the wing.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
Are you okay? And then suddenly down the street the
ice picked through my head and it happened, was you
well in a Blackhawks sweatshirt and number one pick? They've
already sold two million dollars. Uh, there are two big
plays to get to, because we have to have the
conversation about Steph Curry and I know knb are Warriors
(16:34):
fans are gonna hate me. But now even the guys say,
I think Jason Smith is right. He's been saying this
for a long time. This is gonna be known as
the stop. I guess maybe maybe it's the stop. With
the Lakers up one and less than thirty seconds left
to go, the Warriors have the basketball. Steph Curry's got
it and the Lakers guard him one on one with
(16:55):
Anthony Davis out at the perimeter. And this is how
the next two plays unfolded.
Speaker 5 (17:02):
Hey Curry dancing with Davis, lost the handle, teached the dribbles,
tend to shoot, Curry doing it himself here one foot
fade away, No good, it's ringing with.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
A rebound by wiggeds.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Not another chance for Golden State.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Curry long three, No, the rebound TNT on the call.
Steph Curry could not shake Anthony Davis, and he put
up two off balance shots that weren't close. They got
lucky and fortunate to get the offensive rebound. The first time.
Steph puts up a twenty eight footer, which again twenty
eight footer from Steph. Okay, he makes those. Jordan Pool
(17:40):
does not. But this was still Jordan Poole didn't even
get out of the course. This was this was still
an off balance shot. And the Lakers get the rebound,
They hit their free throws, and they win one oh
four to one oh one.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
I've seen not screen him off though they try to
do something no.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
Matter where he went. Watching it is like watching Stephan
because I say it all the time. At this point,
if you are Steve Kerr, you have to say, we
need something else for the end of game, better than
Steph get a shot, because that's killed them in this
series now two games. Whether it's Steph being older, or
the defense on him, or the fact of what I've said,
(18:20):
he has a problem at the end of close games.
He's not as effective because he can't get his own
shot because he's too small. He's too small, he can't
get around, he can't muscle anybody. And as you saw here,
where was he going Anthony Davis? Anthony was looked like
he was three times as big as Steph Curry, and
Steph Curry wasn't gonna be able to dribble around him
at all, Like that was not gonna happen. They cleared
(18:41):
out for Steph. And I'm sure what the Warrior thought was,
We're gonna clear out for Steph. The Lakers will throw
two defenders at him, and now he got it. And
instead when the Lakers came out with a D they
were stuck. Right, You also have Draymond on the floor,
who's not gonna shoot. So that's a big thing because
that's an option that's not gonna happen. So Steph is
out there trying to dribble his way around Ad. There
(19:02):
was no creativity. There was just Steph, You're gonna take
the shot. Nothing.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
Nobody steps in to try to put a body and
make Ad nothing.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
It was these two shots for Steph Curry, and Steph misses,
both of them, misses them off balance. These were not
great shots. But this is nothing new because I've told
you at the end of games he is not nearly
as effective because he can't get his own shot off.
Yet they keep going to him and saying, Steph, make
(19:31):
it happen. At this point, you would think Steve Carr
would say, hmm, I'm a big basketball mine. Just giving
the ball to Steph doesn't work. We get other guys
can make shots. Klay Thompson has made pretty big shots,
so if Steph can't get his shot, why force him.
If Steph was six to seven and could dribble, rent okay, great.
But no matter how you want to argue with me about, oh,
(19:52):
Steph is still great. Seve, you put two defenders on him.
What's he gonna do? You put one defender on him
here he couldn't get a shot off. Why because he's
too small and he can't dribble by ad. He's not
fast enough to go all the way by ad. Could
just he can get buy a d by two steps.
AG's gotta put his arm out and I'm blocking this
shot and it's going up. That's what happens, and people
don't get it at the end of games. Steph Curry
(20:14):
is not the same. He's not All superstars at the
end of games are not created equally. Because if you
can't get your own shot off, guess what you have
trouble at the end of games. This is not Steph
Curry's thing. And you would think Steve Kerr by this
point would say, hmmm, something better than just Steph creates
something to do. It's gotta be on the table, whether
it's clay, whether it's Wiggins, whoever it is, it's gotta
(20:34):
be something because this is just not working. And this
is two games that the worries of loss at the
end because Steph can't get his own shot off. They
lose when he passes out of the double and Jordan
Poole misses the twenty eight footer when they had no
other play planned. And that's what I can't get over,
this lack of planning or this lack of being able
to execute. This is a team that's won four championships.
(20:55):
This is a team that's won a lot these either,
these three guys have been together for a long long time,
and still this is the best they get. And the
Lakers have said, you keep doing this. We have now
beat you twice, mister best point guard of all time
at the end of games, because you can't get your
shot off. We did it with two guys. The first game.
We brought out Ad for you on here, and I
mean it. That was as good as the NBA gets.
(21:17):
Steph trying everything he can to get around ad Ad
not moving getting up. It's kind of like watching Kevin
Love when he was out in the perimeter on Steph
Curry when the Cavaliers beat the Warriors in the NBA Finals,
came down from down three to one. That big possession
in Game seven where Steph is trying to get around
and Kevin Love is out on him and he's not
moving and Steph can't get that shot off. That's a
(21:39):
big deal. It's been a big deal for a long time.
But people want to blow it off because Steph's a
great player and he's got this great image. And I
understand all of these things about Steph Curry, but you
have to understand what I'm telling you the truth, because
I'm not wrong about Steph Curry. In the end of games,
you got to figure out something else. Well, but that's
just it.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
You have all these instances, and the way you style
your offense is to run him or playoff screens, spot up,
what have you. And in these pivotal moments, it's let's
go against the best defensive player in the game when
he's on his game right, when Anthony Davis is sound
and ready to go, nobody alters shots at the rate
(22:16):
he does. I think we can all stipulate to that.
And whether that's under the basket or twenty eight feet away,
he's just as effective because he's still got good footwork
and that wingspan.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
He almost took it away from him before his first
shot off. He almost got an open floor steel on
steps first.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
So he gets the first shot up right, little runner
off balance whatever missus badly, Warriors get the offensive rebound
and he immediately calls for it thinking he's got enough
time to get the shot off. And the closing ability
of eighty because he didn't slump fully back into the
lane right, took a step or two off and then
immediately right back is like an outfielder right your first
(22:56):
STEP's got to be back. And this was where Steph
he's seeking missile. First step back and immediately get that
arm up to force a change of trajectory for Steph
to take another step backwards instead of forwards, and you
get the rainbow shot that misses, and eventually they're able
to clear clear the ball.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
But this is where you know.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
Having a guy like Jordan Poole that you can't trust
on the court is also a big deal, not just
because of that shot. And we can argue to were
blue in the face, good shot, bad shot, time out,
all of those things that could have been done, screen out,
try to try to find an open space because you
have time in this case, final seconds and shot selection
all Jordan pooled last two games two to thirteen from
(23:38):
the field five total points, zero for six from three.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
Is not good. He played ten minutes tonight and went scoreless.
Not good. Mike. Look, this is he had a good run.
This is part of Also now you want to get
bigger than just another shooter that you don't have. Yeah,
and you look and Clay had a bad night. But
sure Clay has made big shots.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
And Clay's also had some really bad shooting nights. Again,
owing to that Lakers defense. Through this series, I've told
you all the time. We'll get into that coming up
in a few minutes. I've told you about the Lakers defense. Uh,
it's great.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
It's a little bit the whole thing. I told you so,
I told you. But that's the other part. Now you
want to widen this out for the Warriors, and this
is why they're a team that was a few games
over five hundred. They hit the playoffs, they won a
couple of games on the road, and suddenly you saw everybody.
Oh they're back, man, they're back. They were just waiting
for this. Look at this, they're back. The Warriors are
not the team they were. Their young players have not ascended.
(24:27):
Jordan Poole has not ascended like they thought he would. Right.
Kaminga can't even get on the floor, he doesn't play.
Wiggins is not the same guy he was when he
was an All Star last year and for a lot
of this year. Draymond doesn't shoot anymore and Clay struggles
way more than he used to. This is just the
natural hate. The Warriors have gotten older and dynasty's end
(24:48):
when the new players coming in don't play like the
old players do. When the Warriors dynasty was at its best,
they had guys coming off the bench that were fantastic
all the time. And not that you suddenly you would
have bench guys at the taking shots. But when Stephan
Clay used to leave games with an eight point lead,
they would come back. Some times it would be a
fourteen point lead. And now they're coming back in and
it was, oh, look at this. But that's the bigger
(25:10):
part of this is that this is not the same
Warriors team. They seem like the same because it's Steph
and it's Clay and Straymond and it's Wakens. They're great
and as Steve Carr, these seem like it's the same,
but it's not. Every team left in the playoffs is fallible, right,
This is a even though it's three to one, this
is a close series. It's a close series. The Lakers
were able to hold off the Warriors at the end
(25:31):
of games a couple of different times. But this is
a close series. The Warriors are not the same as
they were last year, and that's why they are where
they are, down three to one in the second round
of the NBA play.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
You've got nine points between Pool and Clay Top nine nine?
Speaker 1 (25:45):
Nine Is that good? Look at fifteen? Is that good?
I just wanted to say nine.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
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Show with Mike harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific for all.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
The latest and no National Football League longtime insider for
Odyssey Washington Post. He's on Twitter at Jason Locke and
four It is Jason Lock and for what's happening?
Speaker 4 (26:11):
Jay? What's going on? Gentlemen?
Speaker 1 (26:14):
Jay? I'm just wondering how many more teams are gonna
call Andrew Luck just to upset Jim Orsay, Like, how
many more they don't even want him to come back,
they just want to call him just say they know
it's gonna upset him.
Speaker 4 (26:26):
Yeah. I mean, look, this guy is like he's just
trolling for draft picks, right, He's looking for somebody to
throw them the bone. And yeah, it's it's kind of
a wild goose search. But that's the NFL, right, Like
it's they kind of make stuff up as they go along,
and when you have a situation, it's like the tampering
(26:46):
case with the Johnson Gannon situation with the Cardinals, and
then all of a sudden, you know, cloak and dagger,
we get this announcement right before the draft starts. About compensate,
he said, yeah, I got you know, it's it's sort
of a Pandora's box that other people will want to
(27:08):
get a piece of. But I don't know, man, like
it is the owners would do that, like you know
what I mean, Like, I'm just thinking about the tweet
that he sent out. I mean, there's been a lot
of tweets over a long period of time, and I
guess I should be casting no stones here because I've
sent in my share of ridiculous tweets. But like there
(27:31):
was the one you know about should we you know,
should we take will love Us at the top of
you know, the second round, And now there's you know this,
like I don't know, man, like Andrew look's not playing
football anymore, so what's the you know what I mean,
You're really that worried about his contractual rights, Like he's
he clearly wouldn't come back with any other team. You'd still,
(27:54):
I guess, have some say over it if if he
wanted to. And the bottom line is he's completely happily retired. Like,
what's it been five years?
Speaker 1 (28:04):
Yeah, it's been a minute. I mean, you just drafted
this kid that you supposedly loved to death. So why
why are you.
Speaker 4 (28:11):
Worried about this crap? I mean, I don't know. I
can't figure it out.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
Is Jim mersay? That's what he does?
Speaker 3 (28:17):
So out there in Baltimore Land, six thousand yards, how
are we feeling?
Speaker 4 (28:22):
Yeah, that's that's you know, let's get the four first.
Speaker 3 (28:25):
You know, I was gonna say, let's get back to
three thousand or maybe thirty five hundred.
Speaker 4 (28:29):
Yeah, yeah, And we've never hit four, you know in
this iteration. And honestly, I'm trying to think, I don't
know the Flaco ever hit for either I'm in front
of me. But this has not been a place where
the ball goes through the air a whole lot, you know,
with a lot of volume, with a lot of accuracy,
(28:49):
with a lot of deep ball volume, Like it's this.
This city has been about defense in the run game,
you know, really since probably the second or third year
of the Ravens. You know, they came in and they
were what they were where they basically were the Cleveland Browns,
you know, and you had guys like Michael Jackson, he
you know, fifteen hundred yard receiving and fourteen touchdowns or whatever.
(29:14):
But as they became the Baltimore Ravens, and as they
built the franchise on Jonathan Ogden and ray Lewis, it
really became about a certain style of play. So I
don't know about six, but for should certainly be within
reason and as much as the AFC is tough, I
(29:36):
will find out on Thursday with what the exact schedule
is if you just look at them.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
Yeah, but will we really find out? I mean we
may find out, we may not find out. We're going
to find out. I don't know, man, something's happening there.
Speaker 4 (29:46):
Well, I think we're finding out. I mean, I mean
I think the people over there, you know, Culver City
at NFL Network or if that's even where they still are.
I guess no. Now they're at the new Stadium, so
it's not Culver City. It's been a minute since I
worked there. Whatever, They've got three hours of programming plan,
so I think that that's going to happen. I assume
(30:06):
that's going to happen.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
See, I'm just thinking.
Speaker 4 (30:10):
This schedule is gonna look that terrible one way or
the other. We know where they're playing at home, we
know where they're playing on the road, and I don't
think it's again. Even though the AFC is tough and
their divisions tough, I don't think it's going to be
murderers Row from a defensive standpoint. So yeah, four thousand,
five hundred yards something like that. I would aim for
(30:30):
that before I go sixt G.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
All right, now, let me throw this at you. Jason
locking forward us here the Jason Smiths are with Mike Harmon.
We saw a couple of bang bang statements today regarding
Aaron Rodgers and the Jets. One from new Jets offensive
lineman Billy Turner, who said, you know, Rogers was checked
out on green Bay. Green Bay Today talked about moving
on to Jordan love from Aaron Rodgers. Brian Gudokun said, yeah,
(30:55):
we wanted Aaron Rodgers back for this year as long
as he was all bought in and we couldn't get
that from him. Now, I know you are not high
on Aaron Rodgerson the nets, but can you now, can
you at least throw it out there that potentially, okay,
we could get a bit of a bounce back because
part of it is he was checked out last year.
(31:15):
He was checked out last year and it wasn't quite
what should have been.
Speaker 4 (31:19):
So you think you're gonna look at it as a
net positive that a guy he was only making fifty
million last year, not sixty. He was only making fifty
and he'd been with that organization forever, and he put
the gun to their head a couple of times to
get everything he wanted. Like Bright, he became the de
facto GM again. He had roster authority. He's saying, get
(31:43):
me this, don't get me that. I'll show up when
I want to show up. Oh whatever, I'll say whatever
I want to say to McAfee, I'll do whatever I
want to do. You guys will just deal with it.
And then things don't go swimmingly. So he just you know,
waves the white flag pack, you know, pulls the shoot
and says, yeah, I'll wait to see who gives me
the sixty somewhere else next year. I'm sorry. I can't
(32:06):
look at any of that for you know, a forty
year old quarterback and say that's good. That say that
that that pretends good things, especially when he I still
don't think he really has gotten his mind around exactly
what he's gotten himself into. From a quoit like sort
of a lifestyle standpoint, from a media standpoint, from an
(32:30):
offensive line standpoint, I just no, I don't think that's good.
I think that shows you just how willing he is
to make it all about him and his mind and
incubate himself from anything on the outside and sell himself
tales of you know, ulterior or secondary realities where he
(32:56):
can never really be at fault and it's always something else.
And I don't know, man, no, I do. I think
he pulled the shoot last year. I think he's pulled
the shoot for a couple of years. I mean, I
think there were a lot of games at the end
of the the Mike McCarthy area where I would talk
to people who face them and like, hey, did you
rewatch that film and what did you think? Like we
(33:17):
think he's trying to get the guy fired, Like so
I just don't think someone who's capable of that, whose
skills are now eroding, who's going to a new place,
who has the path of least resistance as the offensive
coordinator Hackett, who's under his thumb, who was a fraud
as a coach in Denver, and you know who was
you know, glorified busboy in Green Bay, like he wasn't
(33:38):
running that offense like Aaron Rodgers will dictate everything to
Nathaniel Hackett. He will get whatever he wants out of
Nathaniel Hackett. Like this feels and smells so much like
end of the Road Ben Roethlisberger, except at least there,
you know, it was in one place and Tomlin could
kind of handle it and they were gonna win at
least nine games every year. That's not the Jets. And
(34:02):
Pittsburgh's a different market than New York. And this guy
just got there, like and he couldn't commit to going
to every ota. No, I don't think it's going to
end well.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
So so you're not throwing out there potentially for the
bounce back. Okay, let me because you were kind of
well that kind of danced around that Jay kind of
danced so willing.
Speaker 4 (34:21):
To be like Oh yeah, Well he just you know,
he just pulled a shoot on those guys last year. Like, no,
that's not a good thing. I'm sorry. I think it
kind of speaks to his character at this point.
Speaker 3 (34:32):
See I like that it now extends to Robert Solid
going after Mackay Becton.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
How about you?
Speaker 4 (34:39):
Well, I mean, I don't pluck. I don't blame Sala
for saying what he's saying because mckaid Beckden obviously his
career has been uh has left something to be desired
to this point in time. But the reality is there's
not a whole lot of there there as a tackle
position for this team. And this guy doesn't want to
be hit anymore and he doesn't want to push the
(35:02):
ball downfield anymore, so you can't protect him at this stage.
I think he's going to be in the business and
protecting himself, which I don't think lens itself to you know,
transcendent offensive football.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
Let me ask you that one last quick one, Jason
is going back to the scheduling. Wouldn't the battle of
the networks now that there's more of a free for
all be better viewing than a lot of the actual draft?
Speaker 4 (35:27):
Oh what goes on behind the scenes. Yeah, Hey, like
sending people to stake out, like Howard Katz when he
goes to the bathroom inside the League Officers of the
Park Avenue and hey, hey, you know, slipping something under
the stall. Yeah. I don't know how cloak and dagger
it is, but we are in a brave new world
here where the obviously the rights aren't gold out quite
(35:50):
like they used to be. And we don't have you know,
one network as being the de facto network of one
conference and the other. So yeah, it'll be an interesting little,
uh you know, exercise here and seeing how this all
plays out.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
You can follo him on Twitter at Jason Locke and
Foura that is at Jason Locke and for to check
out his latest on the Washington Post or on Odyssey Jay.
As always, buddy, appreciate it, my friend. We'll talk to
you next week.
Speaker 4 (36:14):
Have funn Thank you guys, have a good week.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
See you, Jason,
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