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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 1 (00:28):
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dot com. The way tire buying should be. We I'll
tell you this, Mike Carmon if you told me on
January first, saying, you know when you get into the
end of June, right, OK, Things starting to get serious.
Major League Baseball season, teams of god go. The biggest
story in the game is gonna be the Reds. From
a positive perspective, I'd have told you to go fly

(01:09):
a kite and you'd be living on Mars. But here
we are Reds.

Speaker 3 (01:13):
Yoh, well, all of a sudden, you get healthy, you
get the most exciting young player in the game, who
has another massive night tonight. Joey Vado is healthy, one
of the game's unsung heroes low these many years and
long odds, and Pete Rose was able to place a
legal bet on them to start the season. So it
all makes sense.

Speaker 4 (01:33):
Now.

Speaker 1 (01:34):
There's a lot of big stats coming out of this game,
including what we get to what we told you that
day bet Ellie de la Cruz. But is this right?
Tonight was the first Red sellout since before nineteen hundred?
Is that I may be confused a couple of but
I think that's what it is.

Speaker 3 (01:51):
That's a good line.

Speaker 4 (01:52):
I think.

Speaker 1 (01:52):
I'm not sure. I'm not sure. First Red supa twelve
wins in a row for the Reds, one of the
best games of the year. Watching it come down to
the and I'm just saying to myself, the Braves are
gonna find a way to win this games. It's what
the Braves do. They They're just gonna find a way.
They're losing eleven nothing, and Elie de la Cruz is
taking over the game of baseball. They're gonna find a
way to win, but the Reds close it out eleven ten,

(02:14):
twelve wins in a row. The Reds are now forty
one and thirty five, and suddenly Dan Patrick's gonna be
talking about the Reds every single day from now on,
because you know he's the only Red you think me
with the Mets man who Dan Patrick being a Reds fan?
Forget it?

Speaker 3 (02:30):
Well, he claims he not to be a claims not
to be a fan of stuff anymore though, right look,
sellout comes in April, they average seventy three hundred fans
a game, seventy three hundred fans, and now they're twenty
third to tenants this one. I'm trying to find what
was the actual last sellout because it's probably been a minute.

Speaker 1 (02:51):
It is probably when they beat the White Sox in
nineteen nineteen and those games were fixed. That's the last time.

Speaker 3 (03:00):
I'm just confused. I mean, when you look at it
and just big turnarounds. But like we always talk about,
and the joke in Los Angeles is, well, they only
support a winner. It's like, well, isn't that most markets,
very few places where you can count on a sellout
every night from a baseball perspective, or being at ninety

(03:21):
percent capacity. In all those we get great crowds here
in LA for the Dodgers, the Angels, despite what everybody
wants to say about them and the mockingtones nationwide and locally.
I mean, there's over three million people in those seats
every year, all right, whether it's tourists and they don't
count the same, the money spends the same, But it's

(03:43):
the curiosity for a team like Cincinnati, long one of
the great historical franchises in Major League Baseball, to suddenly
get a little bit of a surge and get some
excitement and have a couple of players that we get
to talk about on a nightly basis, still waiting for
a hundred to become that, you know, dominant player, to
go with his one hundred and one mile an hour fastball,

(04:05):
all of those things. It's just great theater. And in
a year where that division just stinks to high heaven
and the Saint Louis Cardinals are ripe for the taking,
how great is this?

Speaker 1 (04:18):
You know? Whenever the big heritage teams that were good
in the seventies and the eighties and the nineties. It's
always good for it. Like, I love the fact that
the Orioles are good and they're probably gonna make the playoffs.
The Reds are good. It's fun that the Mets look good,
the Mets and Mens. Yeah, back for the Mets being bad. Yeah,
it's all funny.

Speaker 3 (04:36):
You mentioned the savaneties stuff, just to just dive over
to the Dodgers for a second. They're celebrating that seventies
infield tonight. Yeah, it all ties together.

Speaker 1 (04:46):
Oh telling you, man, the Mets were everything is everything's
like it wasn't the seventies. The Orioles are good, the
Reds are good, the Mets are terrible. Yeah, we're back
to the seventies. But there's one guy we got to
talk about and why. I don't know if you got
futures in after I talked about it the other night,
But I told you two nights ago. You want a
big hot take Ellie Dela Cruz NL MVP. What did

(05:09):
the guy do tonight? He needed a triple to become
the youngest person to hit for the cycle in fifty
one years. You need a triple. You're not gonna get
a triple. Right, I need a home run. Your triple
is you get a bounce, you get a run. Ya,
you need a doublin need a single, you need a triple.

Speaker 3 (05:24):
You're not running through a stop sign from the third
base coach.

Speaker 1 (05:27):
You are not getting a triple. But Ellie de la
Cruz as talented as fast as he is. Here's what happened.

Speaker 2 (05:34):
Here's the two two and there's a drive toward the
right center field gap that's down.

Speaker 1 (05:39):
This will send India around third Dayla Cruz going for third.
Here's the relay, not in time.

Speaker 2 (05:47):
An RBI triple for Ellie Dela Cruz, and he has
just hit for the cycle.

Speaker 1 (05:54):
Red's radio network on the call, four for four tonight,
four RBI three, sixty one for the season. Another stolen
base he's got seven. He's had about sixty five total
at bats in Major League Baseball. And there is no
bigger right now it's star than this twenty one year
old who just came up. And since he's come up,

(06:16):
the Reds haven't lost. It has been an unbelievable beginning
of his career. And it's why I said the other day, Hey,
you look at something out of the ordinary NLMVP. Elie
de la Cruz. Yeah, you know, hey, Acunya is having
a really good year, and every day I'm told you know,
he's only seventy five stolen bases and forty five home
runs for me in the first eighty eighty guy in

(06:37):
Major League Baseball. Yeah, Ronald 'cuny is great. He's having
a great season. A couple other guys having big years too.
But all of a sudden, what happens when a guy
comes up who is one of the biggest prospects in
baseball that people can't wait to see, and you come
out of the gate like he is, You have everybody's attention.
Biggest trending topic right now in the United States is
Elie de la Cruz. Right, Red's winning twelve in a row.

(06:58):
It's like seventh. I think at Wardo Escobar is trending
ahead of that. Reds are a great story. Ellie de
la Cruz. He's got everything. He's got power, he's got speed,
he's a shortstop. He is so bleeping exciting. He's six ' five.
It takes him like four strides to get to first base.
It's like watching James. I told you I played softball
with James Worthy a few times. It's like watching James

(07:20):
Worthy run to first base? How is he at first base?
So fast? He is so much fun. He's got that
it factor. Elie De la Cruz NL MVP. Start saying it,
start getting used to.

Speaker 3 (07:31):
It, start getting used to, start spreading the news like something.

Speaker 4 (07:34):
You know.

Speaker 3 (07:34):
Frostberg and I are talking about a bit, you know,
and we've watched him a few games, and certainly we've
got the highlight reel going on in front of us now,
first cycle for the Red since the great Eric Davis.
Remember what a powerhouse and speed merchant he was back
in the day. That's all the way in eighty nine.
This twelve game winning streak goes back to nineteen fifty

(07:55):
seven since they last had one of that length. So,
I mean, you've got a lot of stuff from a
historical dapoint going on. But watching De la Cruz interacting
with the fans, uh, going back and forth with the
guys in the dugout, and and Swagger right just comes
in and it it's not overwhelming. I mean, look, there's
gonna be adjustments. We'll see what happens, you know, for

(08:17):
the next fifteen game block. But they're throwing the kitchen
sink at this guy, and right now he's hitting it
to the warning track with great regularity, and with that
stride made a triple is never going to be out
of the question.

Speaker 1 (08:29):
Boom, why are you hating Frostburgh.

Speaker 5 (08:34):
Are twos coming up? Oh?

Speaker 3 (08:36):
Okay, Yeah, he's in mid game for him already, as
Altuve gets ready to go to the plate. Obviously we
had Manfred's horrible apology and well, basically the equivalent of
the NBA two minute drill thing the other day. But
we've got Emmett back on the mound tonight.

Speaker 1 (08:54):
Yeah, and and and uh, maybe maybe he goes eight
innings no hits tonight. What do you think eight innings?
And maybe it's a is it a Friday night thing?
If it's Friday, it must be Emmett and he's going
for a no hit.

Speaker 3 (09:05):
I kind of dig that. I was Chuck when I
was in the car a little bit earlier and our
guys Patris and Money on AM five seventy were doing
their show doing a remote and Matt just kept going
which guy gets it in the ear?

Speaker 1 (09:19):
Like, you don't have many of those guys from.

Speaker 3 (09:21):
That twenty seventeen team left you gotta pick one. Let's go,
EMMITTT and then you'd pick up the cap and you
just look at Clayton Kershaw's direction and you doff your Captu.
Matt was funny as hell. He kept going back to
that well over the course of a few minutes. I
got to listen to.

Speaker 1 (09:39):
So it was funny.

Speaker 3 (09:40):
You know, they're gonna have a full crowd. Obviously it's
tough to get in on a Friday night traffic in
La but yeah, Emmett L two. They getting after it,
and Frostburg's already pacing around like a cat in the studio.

Speaker 1 (09:54):
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(10:15):
la Cruz out of nowhere, out of but he has
that You gotta have the it factor right, You can't
I mean, yes, sometimes in Major League bas we like, okay,
well we'll vote for Paul Goldschmid. Why well, look at
his statut. But when you can grab somebody and you
and he's grabbed the attention right now, and the Reds
just won't lose. We've seen the Braves win division titles, right,
we've seen the Braves do it. Okay, that's yeah Braves. Yes,

(10:37):
secun is good. Everybody else is good. Yes, Braves. Culture
is awesome. A guy plays three games, gets five hits,
and we sign him for ten years, one hundred million,
thinking that's alid. Look how smart we are. Yes, I
get it, I get it. We've seen all that. We
haven't seen this. This. This is one of those cuts
through the clutter stories. Wait, the Reds are good. The
Reds are one of the best teams in baseball. The
Reds are the hottest team. It's like, well, we've seen

(10:59):
his the Yankees go on runs and the dodge or whatever,
but look at that, but the Reds. It cuts through
the clutter. When you can own the news cycle, that's
a really, really big deal. In Ellie de la Cruz,
it is his world right now.

Speaker 3 (11:11):
Well, and we love stories. We love news stories. It's
a different player now. Acunya Junior is nice, you know,
a little comeback story and all that stuff, But we
know the name. We expect greatness from the Braves. We
move on Cincinnati. They were one hundred to one to
win the World Series before the season, and I think
that was probably just because that's as high as they'll

(11:32):
let the toad boards go on the digital monitors there
in Vegas. But you know, there was no expectations at all.
And he's a guy that if you're into prospecting and
or baseball cards or whatever you've been keeping an eye on,
you were tracking a little bit in the minor league
and wondering, you know, it was even gonna get a

(11:53):
call this year, Like that was one of the big
things because we always get into it when it comes
to service time and all the gamesmanship that goes on
with that as to whether de la Cruz would find
his way to the majors. And he has. And for
the last three weeks, every day you're checking box scores, right,
every day, you're looking at highlight reel stuff and them

(12:13):
winning twelve in a row. When you can start churning
up the big red machine footage and all of that,
all these highlights of Eric Davis and heroes gone by
that you can go in and start getting a little
bit of run. It's a new story and new narrative
and someone that you can check a different box. So
this is one that captivates the national media for sure.

Speaker 1 (12:33):
You know, and remember a year right to shed This
is for everybody.

Speaker 3 (12:36):
By the way, you broke Aaron Judge too. This is
the weight of him carrying you on his back.

Speaker 5 (12:42):
I did took him down.

Speaker 1 (12:43):
That happens. Well you know what, Hey, listen, I'm not responsible.
I'm not responsbots, but I understand. But remember, for this
is for everyone who thinks, wow, how can my team's
fortune change so fast? Remember it was last year, right
before opening day or was it the Reds owner They
asked about frustration, sell the team, we're not gonna come
to games? And what did he say? Where are you

(13:04):
gonna go? What else? We got baseball? Right? I tell
you got you got baseball in the street. You come,
you don't come. I don't care. I'm getting my revenue
sharing check. It doesn't matter. Sell the team to who? Right,
That's what he's saying. What do you mean sell the
team to who? What do you want? Where else are
you gonna go? Just come and see baseball. And look

(13:24):
where they are now. The Reds are at first play.
It's unbelievable, unbelievable.

Speaker 3 (13:28):
Fun story to watch as the summer months, I'll start
rolling if the Reds come to a town near you.
It's entertaining brand of baseball and a and a hot
new star to check out on his rise.

Speaker 1 (13:39):
And remember, I can say, remember I told you the
Elie de la Cruz is going to be an l
m v P. Right, because you know that worked for
me all last year. That judge I told you ared judge. Yeah,
we can only go to that well so much, take
so many times. I shield you from a lot of
hate messages. I don't want to go through that again.

Speaker 3 (13:53):
But because I hate to say I told you so,
I'm the one that has to, you know, be the shield.

Speaker 1 (13:59):
Yeah. But when I say it's because we're because because
I'm right all the time and you're you're shit. I mean,
you have a Captain America shield, and I get that,
but I mean kind of a big deal. When you're
right more, you know, way more often than not. It's okay.
It's okay to miss a couple. It's okay for me
to It's okay for me to miss. Oh, we got Verlander.
We're going to the World Series. No I can miss
on that one. I'm I'm okay with that.

Speaker 3 (14:19):
Well, that's a pretty big miss. Rogers one's gonna be
even worse.

Speaker 1 (14:24):
Rogers. Oh you go to the super Bowl. That's gonna
be I.

Speaker 3 (14:26):
Mean, come on, end of July out here in Los Angeles,
I got a day game that's calling me right now.

Speaker 1 (14:32):
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Speaker 4 (14:46):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (14:46):
Yeah, so the Mets have kicked off the major league
trade deadline moves with a big trade today because they're
you know, dumping guys they don't need.

Speaker 3 (14:53):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (14:53):
So we'll have more baseball on the way, including Rob Manfred,
who had to explain his ridiculous comments surrounding the Okland
as coming up in a bit. But straight ahead, there
is one team that made an unbelievably sneaky great move
in the draft last night, and I'll tell you right now,
they're my pre free agency pick to go to the

(15:15):
NBA Finals next season. Now, you know I'm not saying
the Knicks. Knicks did nothing last night. Who is it
who's going to the NBA?

Speaker 3 (15:22):
They're lying in waite, sleeping giant.

Speaker 1 (15:25):
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Speaker 3 (15:30):
This is Fox Sports Radio America's ass.

Speaker 1 (15:33):
I see. I knew I said it because I knew
you're gonna say America's ass. I would say, is he
gonna say I could do this all day? Or I
have America's ass and I knew you're gonna say America.

Speaker 3 (15:42):
I gotta keep mixing it up.

Speaker 1 (15:43):
I knew it. No, that was very predictable. That was
very That was very predictable.

Speaker 3 (15:46):
No, I don't think I will.

Speaker 5 (15:50):
You guys are still talking.

Speaker 1 (15:52):
Still going, still going.

Speaker 2 (15:55):
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Speaker 1 (16:05):
Well right now, Major League Baseball, Dodgers and Astros trying
to piggyback off that unbelievable game we saw earlier tonight
between the Reds and the Braves. Elie de la Cruz
youngest player in fifty one years to record a cycle.
The Reds have won twelve in a row. They beat
the Braves eleven ten. Let's see. The Reds are good,

(16:26):
the Orioles are good, the Blue Jays are good. Ish,
the Mets stink. It's the late nineteen seventies. Mike Harmon,
this is fantastic. We have gone back well.

Speaker 3 (16:37):
And the Dodgers honored Dave Lopes, Steve Garvey, Ron Say,
and Bill Russell earlier tonight. So yeah, it is a
throwback to the seventies.

Speaker 1 (16:47):
I'm fine with that. And the Jonas brothers.

Speaker 3 (16:49):
Were at Dodger Stadium that ny.

Speaker 5 (16:52):
I blame them.

Speaker 3 (16:54):
Our guy just gave up to Rockets. No, there's no
no hitter going on here. Like last week. We do
not get a repeat performance. So Dave Roberts when he
comes to hooking, we won't be cursing at him, maybe
not as much.

Speaker 1 (17:09):
He just turned to the fans and go and go.
It sucked. Blanke you, Blanke you, But now you want
me to take him out right? Now he's giving up
eight runs and four Oh, now you want me to
take him out right? Last week was Oh no, it
was a grim reaper. Now you want me to take
him out?

Speaker 4 (17:22):
I just like that.

Speaker 3 (17:23):
He got a guy named Emmett Delay in Major League Baseball.

Speaker 5 (17:26):
And they haven't showed his mom once yet.

Speaker 1 (17:28):
No, no, no, no, Well it's not quite the no
hitter like it was last week.

Speaker 3 (17:33):
I still would have thought we'd at least get one
or two shots of her at this point, I mean,
where is the reaction after that first home run?

Speaker 1 (17:39):
No, and Tyser's still not going to give us anything
from Emmit Odd or river Bottom Gang Nightmare Band. We're
still not going to get that. He's still gonna keep
playing Tears for Fears all the time. All Right, it's
gonna keep You're kind of a big deal. You're playing it,
keep playing. No, they're not a big deal. When you
are headlining a concert that has twenty five other.

Speaker 3 (17:56):
Bands in it, you're not a big Well, maybe you're
doing it so you can help those other bands keep
their their dreams and hopes and insurances alive.

Speaker 1 (18:04):
No, it's just it's can you make money? Thirty years
after you were popular. Well they still are.

Speaker 3 (18:08):
They sell out.

Speaker 1 (18:10):
Yeah, but when there's only a four thousand seed arena,
it's not that big a deal.

Speaker 3 (18:15):
Four thousand people still showing up and choosing to make
make their entertainment dollar yours is still kind of a
big deal.

Speaker 5 (18:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (18:24):
By the way, we go ahead.

Speaker 1 (18:26):
No, no, no, what's that big concert they're doing later on?

Speaker 3 (18:28):
They with like forty yeah, yeah, with New Order and
all sorts of bands.

Speaker 1 (18:33):
Yeah, dude, when you and New Order are co headlining
a tour, come on, I mean really.

Speaker 3 (18:38):
I played a few things for my daughter with New Order.
She just loves live events. She's like, are we going
I don't know, New.

Speaker 5 (18:46):
World Order back? Well, if I could get her.

Speaker 3 (18:49):
Back into the n w O, yeah, I mean we
we always go back and watch the old wrestling pint cans.

Speaker 4 (18:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (18:58):
But down the street from from us, someone actually did
take the spray paint to the sidewalk. Not quite sure
what they're what they're trying to invoked?

Speaker 5 (19:08):
There Smith, you need a Hopscotch in your driveway?

Speaker 1 (19:11):
No, I'm good, I'm good. Thank you. Note, I'm good.
I'm good. I haven't hopscotch in years, but I'm okay.

Speaker 3 (19:16):
Maybe next week. By the way, we did have a
couple of folks asking about what happened to live drop Friday,
and I had to explain that, you know, you kept
telling Allan and the people that run the copyright of
Seinfeld finally told us to beat it. Yeah, it's not
good tell a baseline, just getting us in trouble.

Speaker 1 (19:37):
So I can't say that's incorrect. I cannot say that's
in correct hundred percent.

Speaker 3 (19:43):
I was trying to get a live feed from Frank today.
Oh some videos that, yeah, probably get us in some
trouble if this is not.

Speaker 1 (19:53):
Look, it's actually not a bad day for the Mets,
because what do I tell you? What what gets? How
do I go to sleep at night? Think about all
the t raids the Mets can make, where they can
get rid of all the guys making a lot of money. Well,
they got rid of it. Wardo Escobar, Right, he's making
money this year now obviously he's gone now, and he
was he was locked in for money next year. So
I have to worry about that. They got a couple
of pitchers. It's starting right now. The Mets just kicked

(20:14):
off the trade deadline. Escabar Cana. These guys will all
go early. Man watch Tommy fam Yeah, who needs a
thirty five year old The guy's hitting the ball well,
but we don't need him. We're ten games under five hundred.
We stink. And then we got to get to the
white whale of shurz Or and Verlander. How can we
get somebody to take their contracts at least one of

(20:34):
them for the rest of this year? Who can we
get to want to pay those guys thirty five million
dollars for next year? Who can we get to do
that up time? I'm tied, But today's a good day.
One high priced thirty five year old guy has gone okay,
Because what do I tell you when you get old,
you get old right away. The Mets got old right
away leap.

Speaker 3 (20:51):
But what I don't understand. And look, I know the
Angels are trying to be in it rendon still on
the il all that stuff. You're bringing in a guy
that doesn't have a whole lot of punch going on
here to thirty six for home run sixteen RBI and
you give up your number nineteen prospect a pitcher. Remember
they did the thing where they drafted nothing but pitchers.

(21:14):
They still don't have anybody but Otani that you trust
on a game to camp Basis and you're gonna give
away you're pitching prospects for a guy hitting two thirty six.

Speaker 1 (21:25):
Yeah, but here's the thing, Oh tell you. You gotta
go for it, right, you got going, you gotta go on,
you gotta go for it. Rendona is hurt again. Come on, man,
you gotta look.

Speaker 3 (21:36):
Man, that's he that's a sunk thirty five million dollars
a year cost.

Speaker 1 (21:42):
No, but here. Escobar had been hitting well lately, like
you would like. I think his last like twenty games
when he lost his giggy was d hing part time.
His averages was close to three. I take that part time. Yeah,
So they traded him on the upswing. Hey he's hot,
let's move him. So they did the right thing. But
you're the you gotta go for it, right, I mean,
I think the ain't just said we're not getting rid
of Otani. I think that. I think that that's why

(22:03):
this move is a big deal. This just said we're
getting at Wuardo Escobar because we need to fill a need.
They're not trading Otani.

Speaker 3 (22:09):
He did hit three ninety four in the month of May,
two home runs six RBI thirteen for thirty three and
sixteen games. This month, he's hitting two hundred four for twenty.

Speaker 1 (22:22):
Two r Now, speaking of baseball, here's the moonwalk backward.
Rob Manfred did today about his comments on the A's
that didn't go over well a few days ago. The
A's who are now in Lockstock and Barrel. It's they're
crossing the t's and dotting the i's. They'll be moving

(22:43):
to Las Vegas. The ballpark was was okayed in Las Vegas.
All they need now is for owners to agree for
Oakland to be able to move the A's for the
A's able to move from Oakland to Las Vegas, which
is expected to be an easy vote for them to pass.
Was last week where Rob Manfred gained a lot of
attention because you know, Manfred says things that are stupid,

(23:05):
because you know, he hates the players and he hates
the game, you know, And he was asked about the
A's he said, hey, look, you know I feel you know,
I feel bad, but hey, it's not just their fault.
You know, it's not just John Fisher's fault. You know
that we tried to get a ballpark there. We tried
to get a ballpark there. And when he was asked
about the A's having their reverse boycott, Oh, it's great

(23:26):
to have everybody show up and have an average MLB
crowd one night a year.

Speaker 3 (23:29):
Well he got that smart ass response, right, yeah he could.

Speaker 1 (23:32):
He couldn't help himself. But have to sit there. A
team is moving and you're treating it like, yeah, no
big deal, what do I care? So here finally, Rob Manford,
day two of the I Screwed Up Tour, because yesterday
he said, hey, I should have punished the Astros for
the cheating scandal. Not my best decision. Here he is
today walking back his comments on the A's from a

(23:53):
few days ago.

Speaker 6 (23:54):
My comment about Oakland was that I feel sorry for
the fans, that it was my initial and preference that
we find a solution.

Speaker 1 (24:06):
In Oakland.

Speaker 6 (24:07):
The comment that I made about the fans on a
particular night was taken out of context of those two
larger remarks. So sorry for the fans.

Speaker 1 (24:18):
We hate to move.

Speaker 6 (24:19):
We did everything we could possibly do to keep the
club in Oakland, and you know, unfortunately one.

Speaker 2 (24:25):
Night doesn't change a decade worth of in action.

Speaker 1 (24:30):
So here he is and backing off a little bit
and I read the comment, right, I get what he's saying.
You know, one night doesn't doesn't doesn't make up for
a decade of an action.

Speaker 3 (24:40):
He's right, because what do we say, what happens familiar?

Speaker 1 (24:43):
This is awesome? Right, so he listens to the show
and steals our takes. What do we say, this is
a great night. But this is a death cry. This
is a this is a fun thing to do to
go out and you go to the game and you
wear the sell T shirts and and it's you know,
it's it's a fun thing to do. But this is
this is not going to get the team to day.
This is not going to get everybody to stop and
go Wait a minute, look, we can get twenty seven

(25:03):
thousand people coming to again. No, they're moving to they're
moving to Vegas. But this was Hey, in the end,
let's do something because we're frustrated fans. So I get
it now. The thing is as Manford, you know, his
apology tour keeps going. Maybe he's gonna apologize for pay
to Play next. I don't know. Yeah, he's got he's
got on the apology tour. Yeah, I mean here it
is that you kicked it off last night. Now he's

(25:23):
got you got another stop today. Let's see what he's
got tomorrow.

Speaker 3 (25:27):
I'm sorry to all we're not being a man of
action when a game. Time to smack down the cheat
and Astros or the Yankees or the Cardinals or anybody else. Yeah, terrible.

Speaker 1 (25:42):
So but here's the thing is that the best point
anti A's moving that I have heard, the best point
about the A's moving is is not because rob me. Look,
it's not working business wise, all the stuff. I get it.
No one's coming to the games. The Colisee is awful.
They're moving up, they're moving to a bigger city. They're

(26:04):
getting everything they want. They're getting a bigger ballpark. I
get why they're moving everything else. The biggest argument against
it is you are taking a team that has an
established fan base and you're moving into a brand spanking
new location. And that's a difficult sell to tell people
all of a sudden, Hey, now you got to go
care about baseball. It's difficult. It's difficult right because we're

(26:26):
seeing we're seeing that. Look look at the teams since
two thousand. Let me give you some of the relocated
teams and how they've done.

Speaker 4 (26:33):
Right.

Speaker 1 (26:33):
You had the Expos relocate to Washington. Right, the Nationals
have done fine, they've won the World Series. Why, well,
Washington used to have baseball, so okay, all right. The
Rams have moved to Los Angeles in the NFL. This
has worked. Why Well, because the Rams were from Los Angeles,
so it works.

Speaker 5 (26:48):
They're going back to Orange County.

Speaker 1 (26:50):
The Nets moved to Brooklyn. Well, we've had basketball in
the greater New York City area for a long time. Okay,
that works. Charlotte moves to New Orleans in the NBA. Well,
they had basketball in New Orleans. Those things worked. Now
the relocations without history where teams with the history are
moving to brand new areas. Seattle moves to Oklahoma City, Right,

(27:12):
that's worked. Why the Oklahoma City Thunder drafted, Well, they
won early, they got to the finals in the first
few years, and that's worked. The Chargers are now in
Los Angeles. Why is this a bit of a struggle, Well,
because the Chargers haven't won. Right, Chargers have won, they
haven't been in this market. Oakland Raiders moved to Las Vegas.
That's still going. Okay, Vegas Raiders haven't won either. The

(27:35):
biggest key in all of this to How to solve
this relocation is when you are moving an established team
to new location. Is you can't just rely on the
newness of the team and then we'll worry about it
right No, you want to be able to grab fans
right away and grab a generation. And there's the two
biggest things you can do. You can win, but you
need to spend right away. Spend money. Don't say moving

(27:58):
is what's important. We'll worry about winning in a couple
of years, since suddenly three years go by your team
stinks and you're having trouble getting people to the ballpark
because no one really cares anymore. The team is not good. No,
you gotta get there and you gotta bust your ass
to win right away. If you could do that, if
the A's moved to Vegas, start spending money and bringing
guys in and winning, then it will work. But if

(28:18):
you go there and say, hey, we just got we
just went moving here at the toughest part, but now
we're good, like they think, people are just gonna come
to the games because there's nothing else to know. There's
a lot of other things to do in Vegas. If
you don't win, people aren't gonna go see these games, right,
They're not gonna go and and brave one hundred and
ten degree heat, even if it's a closed ballpark to
try to get there to go see a game. There's

(28:38):
lots of other things to do. You gotta go, you
gotta be bold, You gotta spend right away. Then you'll
get the new market.

Speaker 4 (28:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (28:44):
I think you're just gonna have more of the same.
It's gonna be like Clipper ads in the eighties and nineties.
Come see your favorite guy, Rice Harper, Come see Las
Vegas his own.

Speaker 5 (28:54):
I got to see Jordan play because of the Clippers.
See there you go.

Speaker 1 (28:58):
Yeah, it gets I remember seeing those things in the
paper all the time. Look at this Clippers ticket package,
Bulls Nicks.

Speaker 5 (29:04):
Come watch David Robinson's seventy one.

Speaker 3 (29:07):
You know what's funny though, in the collectible's markets, those
ads now have value if they're in good shape.

Speaker 1 (29:13):
That's where we're at Twitter at How about a Fresca
Mike at Swollen Dome. You want to solve that. That's
the one argument I can say, and there's a way
to solve it right there. Gotta spend right away.

Speaker 2 (29:23):
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Speaker 1 (29:31):
He is the author of eight books. He is also
officially a Hall of Very Good voter, and he joins
US Now Live from the Ayahuasca press conference, where he
spent the last couple of days getting Steve Cohen's money
to make ayahuasca and psychedelics mainstream. It is Jason Cole,
Ja Cole, what's happening?

Speaker 4 (29:53):
How are you bro Oh, dude, dude, this is now
I understand the whole Oregon thing because like you're channeling
your inner Conkisi man, Like, this is so, this is freaky.
The Mary pranksters are showing up. I'm seeing them all,

(30:13):
even though they're like they're totally dead man like really
they're totally they are actually literally dead.

Speaker 1 (30:19):
So right now Jim Porter is saying, this guy votes,
this guy votes for the Hall of Fame.

Speaker 4 (30:27):
Not anymore, not after this. I had a good it
was eleven years. It was really good run. You know,
I got to say this about a shout out to
Jim Porter. Good Man, but you're supposed to get a
ten year anniversary presence, you know when you're you.

Speaker 1 (30:44):
Know what kind of stuff I'm talking.

Speaker 4 (30:47):
I don't know what it's supposed to because they didn't
give it to me. Like, let's just say that. And
I'm a little hurt about this. I'm not really I'm
not really hurt because I'm at the conference and I'm chilling.
I'm good. I'm just I'm expanding my brain, you know.
And isn't it ironic that, like they approve stuff that
makes you dumber, but some to expand your mind like that,

(31:11):
they keep that illegal. You're quoting, I'm quoting Aron.

Speaker 1 (31:16):
Yeah, you're supposed to be getting something ten or aluminum
for your ten year anniversary to symbolize strength and resiliency.
That's why it's ten or.

Speaker 4 (31:27):
I've done that a couple of times.

Speaker 3 (31:29):
Okay, so reusability as well.

Speaker 1 (31:31):
Instead you're getting ayahwascity, my.

Speaker 4 (31:34):
Mind is aluminum foil. Okay, sorry, it's okay.

Speaker 1 (31:38):
So you know, how come now I want to say,
how come there weren't more people they're covering Aaron Rodgers
speaking at the Psychedelic Conference? I mean, why why was
that more? Why was that more mainstream?

Speaker 4 (31:49):
Well, let's just say, but think about New York sports
writers at that kind of a conference, which.

Speaker 1 (31:57):
Yes, it's fish out of water. It's all. It's like,
my isn't Dinny it would.

Speaker 4 (32:01):
Be fit I know, Bob Globber, another uptight white guy. Yeah,
Bob Globber, explain this to me, Smanie. You know, like
there's no angle there for Samani. It just doesn't work. Sirby,
I mean Sirby. I'll say that Serby needs psychedelics.

Speaker 1 (32:22):
But wow, there there's a hot take.

Speaker 6 (32:25):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (32:25):
Actually, actually no, he's probably the one guy who has.

Speaker 1 (32:29):
Some that group ah allegedly allegedly.

Speaker 4 (32:33):
Alleged allegedly, I said, probeg I said, he's probably the
guy out. He's the guy with picks. Never mind. Okay,
so we were saying what were we saying?

Speaker 1 (32:44):
Oh, I can't I can't wait for the next in
person Pro Football Hall of Fame vote, And there was
just like, you know, before we vote, there's gonna be
like eleven guys are gonna say, I'm going to talk
to Jason Cole about something, Steve, Steve Serby, why don't
you go first?

Speaker 4 (32:57):
Yeah, it's unfortunately Serby is not in that room, and
neither is Samini. So I avoid that. But Globber is
going to get on me. So I know that that's
gonna happen here. Bring it, bring it, globber.

Speaker 1 (33:09):
Bring it.

Speaker 3 (33:09):
Now, there you go. So what do you think of
New York's favorite tourist continuing his run and now this
speech and whatever it is? The it's like the summer
of George on Seinfeld at this point.

Speaker 4 (33:21):
It really is the summer of George the summer of Aaron.
Is this fantastic? I mean he did already manage to
get you know, training camp or can he shorten training
camp too? Like? Can he cut it down to like
three weeks or something like that? You've got, Well, he's
already shortened the off season program, you know, by decree.
You know again, Robert Salad doing is just his best

(33:42):
bill for ourselves. Okay, let's let's get these plays. These
plays it's one two, Okay, skip the rest of these. Okay,
that's it.

Speaker 1 (33:49):
No, it's gonna be like there'll be two and a
half weeks in he's gonna throw his last pass for practice,
like an eighty yard touchdown to Garrett Wilson. He's going
to go, coach. I think we're good. Oh, we're good
for the day. All right, we're gonna stop. No, I
think We're it for pres We'll we'll, we'll see, We'll
see you in a couple of weeks with it. Oh yeah,
let's a training camp. Let's cancel the fourth off preseason games.
We're gonna camp. You got worry about it.

Speaker 4 (34:07):
We will we will need mental health days in the middle.
Did I ever tell you about that when I wrote
about Jimmy Johnson taking a mental health day? God, that
was classic.

Speaker 1 (34:17):
No, what happened?

Speaker 4 (34:19):
So like the last year that Jimmy was the coach
of the Dolphins, he was, Yeah, he basically pieced out
by the by the whole thing. You remember, he told
that whole retirement thing at the end of the season,
and then Wayne Hazinga talked him into coming back. You know,
let's do it, you know, and they bring in Wanstead
to be his caddy because once that had just been

(34:41):
stiff Abosta with the Bears.

Speaker 3 (34:42):
All the pieces were in place. That's all the pieces
are in place.

Speaker 4 (34:47):
All the pieces. Yeah, let's let's bring Rick Myra back.
So more Rick Myra. You sorry, just had to say it.
So anyway, so you know, like basically Jimmy has had
his melt down and we're all sitting here going, well,

(35:07):
he's out, but I guess they convinced him to do it. Anyways,
and so along the way he had taken a day.
There was supposed to be this I think July meeting.
It was early July or late June meeting where all
the NFL head coaches were supposed to go to Atlanta,
which is literally like a half hour forty five minute flight,
you know, from Fort Lauderdale to go everybody's supposed to attend.

(35:31):
Jimmy goes, Nah, send one set right, let Wannie take
this one. Okay, no problems. We get to like the
third day of training camp, and I remember walking to
the office and the whole place is empty, and I'm
walking around and going like, where is everybody? If I like,
Harvey Green comes down, I guess I don't write this,
but Jimmy gave every other day off, like this is

(35:56):
day three of training camp, right, yeah, you can't write
that back there. I'm like, I can't write that. You
don't write that, you know. I'm like Harvey, it's kind
of new. It's like he goes, look, just well, right now,
I'll give you something else. I'm like, okay, Harvey is
a favorite of you. I won't write this but like

(36:16):
this is a little weird, he goes, and so we
go around and I kind of tuck it into my
back pocket and we get to writing the season preview story,
and I say, I bury these two little items, like
in about graft ten, about the fact that you know,

(36:36):
Jimmy's not really all in. About seven thirty that morning,
I get a call from Armando Sagero going, Jimmy, read
your story today. Don't say anything until I get there.
It's about eight thirty. Get there. Armando shows up. I'm

(36:57):
out there. Jimmy is on the practice field. Literally, he
marches off the practice field, signals for the two of
us to come in and get Stu Weinstein, who's the
head of security in there with Harvey, and he just
unloads on me. This is my MF job, this is
my m you know, like this, and I'm just like,

(37:20):
I'm like and Armando's like, just take it, you know,
just let him have his rant. I'm like, that's okay.
I said what I said. He can he can reply,
you know. That's what I'm thinking to myself, and armandos
like standing there and all of a sudden, you know,
Jimmy's been yelling at me. And yelling at me, and
all of a sudden he looks at Armando and you,
by the way, and that's what Armado goes. He goes,

(37:42):
I was counting the number of mfs, he goes, I
lost track at thirteen, a pretty good run. When he
looked at me. I lost my concentrate.

Speaker 1 (38:00):
Age.

Speaker 4 (38:02):
I have a way with people. Let's spend it that way.
But Jimmy, you know, like Jimmy was out of it
by that time. And it showed that year like they
just you know, it all ended with that Loston Jacksonville
where Fred Taylor probably deserved to make the Hall of
Fame on that game by himself. So sprink I remember

(38:25):
that was Sprinklers went off in the middle of the game.
It's like, yeah, this is the Dolphins needed to shower
in the first quarter because they were done.

Speaker 1 (38:32):
That was Bo's last game, right, yeah, O god. So
it was like sixty sixty seven, right something like that.

Speaker 4 (38:39):
Yeah, sixty three. It was just I mean again, it
was it was so they were so done. It was
everything they could do too. And I'll give them credit.
They won a playoff game in Seattle the previous week.
It's a pretty tough, pretty tough game. You had to
go cross country and all that, but they were done
in the first quarter, like they were just they were through.

(39:00):
They were absolutely one percent through in the first in
the first quarter of that game.

Speaker 3 (39:06):
There's your next book, the NFL Games, the worst final
games of NFL careers, not seasons, not EMMITTT. Smith and
a Cardinals.

Speaker 4 (39:16):
No, No, that was that. That's definitely up there. That was. Yeah,
well that game.

Speaker 1 (39:23):
You could sign that book at Jimmy Johnson's bar, and.

Speaker 4 (39:28):
I'm sure, I'm sure Marino will show up those two.
Those two. That was. That was That was a splendid
year for those two. Like as much as much as
Jimmy m f to me that many times he and
he and Marino got into it, like multiple times on
the field during practice. The players are telling me like that,
you know, as the season is going, it's like it

(39:50):
was completely and totally like it was so uncomfortable a
practice because those guys would start screaming at each other
in the middle of practice.

Speaker 1 (40:00):
The Vikings next year, you just watch, yeah, like the
Vikings are gonna call you. Jason call our guest NFL
Inside of the Jason Spencer with Mike Carbon Live from
the tirereck dot Com studios and.

Speaker 4 (40:14):
The Ayahuasca Conference.

Speaker 1 (40:15):
Bro. Yes, in the Ayahuasca Conference, that's right. Due, I
found out no more than three ounces of that tea
you're supposed to have, like it's it's it's supposed to be.

Speaker 4 (40:26):
You're gliding after that, bro. Yeah, I remember I grew up.
I grew up in the San Fernando Valley.

Speaker 1 (40:35):
I was gonna say, you're okay.

Speaker 4 (40:37):
Oh yeah, built up the surfers, the stoner surfers that
I went to school with. Man, oh it was. It
was all Sean PENNISLI. Man those When I saw Fast
Times at Ridgemont High, I was like, that's Chris Davis. Man, dude,
right there.

Speaker 1 (40:56):
You're following van Halen around when they're playing all the
big outdoor part part he's in the valley. Oh yeah,
it wonderful. All right? Hey? Lastly, but what do you
think about this? We talked about this earlier, you know,
the whole thing. This week we had Jamar Chase standing

(41:18):
up for Joe Burrow saying, Pat who And when I
was asked to his best quarterback, the best quarterback was
and and Burrow says, what do you you know?

Speaker 6 (41:26):
Hey?

Speaker 1 (41:26):
Listen of course it's Patrick Mahomes. He's done it, and
Jamar Chase says Pat Who, and Travis Kelsey gets mad, saying,
don't ever disrespect Patrick Mahomes. I love this fake fight
that's been that's been.

Speaker 4 (41:36):
Going, absolutely like this is the best fake fight. Jack
Benny got into it with some comedian back in the
sixties like this is this is like a redo of
that that exact thing, like, let's have a faux argument
that we're like this is we hate each other and
we're gonna throw down all of a sudden before because
you said Pat Who. God, okay, guys, I mean I

(41:59):
think gets cute and fun and the I'll say this,
the Kelsey Brothers podcast is pretty sensational. I give him
a lot of credit for that. This is not real.

Speaker 1 (42:12):
So I.

Speaker 4 (42:17):
Thought, that's yes, that's not.

Speaker 3 (42:19):
Yeah, but you know how this gets even better. Steve
de Seger immediately got in my ear and he said,
exactly who that comedian was, Steve, Jack Benny and who
Fred Allen is in the man's name.

Speaker 4 (42:34):
Oh, I mean that is really that's a great poll
right there. That really is a great poll because those
guys would rip each other. I mean, it's really pretty
good stuff, and everybody thought it was real. They thought
there was a real rivalry between the two and it's
like those guys, he's going to dinner like twice a week.
So they had everybody fools. It's a classic TV bit.

(42:56):
It's like the first time on TV where you had
a a faux fight between between people. It's like, you
know when rock bands throw like pretend that they're going
to throw down. It's like, oh, sure, yeah, I'm sure
Kurt Cobain hates any better. Yeah, I really yeah, And
I'd really love to see those guys get no fist fights.

Speaker 3 (43:14):
These guys really now have the legacy that they invented
the the hot takery, faux debate shows.

Speaker 4 (43:23):
They kind of they were the they were the progenitors
of the of this. See how a progenitor nice? How often?
How often have you guys got you cleared your mind? No?

Speaker 1 (43:35):
Be honest, when when when Steve jumped in with the name,
I thought.

Speaker 4 (43:40):
For a second, oh, I had to reach so deep
into my head for that. I'm hurting man, like reach
You said that was like an s a T word
that I studied like seven times.

Speaker 1 (43:57):
It's Iowa. There's no more all right. He's on Twitter
at Jason Coles sixty two.

Speaker 4 (44:04):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (44:04):
The author of eight books, including the upcoming one on
the effects of ayahuasca on the nfl AFC.

Speaker 4 (44:10):
E J.

Speaker 1 (44:12):
Cole is always buddy, appreciate it, man. We'll talk to
you next week.

Speaker 4 (44:15):
Actually, we're going to have the effects of ayahuasca on
the on the Hall of Fame voting process.

Speaker 3 (44:20):
That's fantastic.

Speaker 4 (44:23):
We're all going to take it before the next post.
That's what we're going to do to do R E
l j X.

Speaker 1 (44:30):
Yeah. I want to see the thirty thirty on that
all wrong.

Speaker 5 (44:34):
The Jets are really going to suck man.

Speaker 1 (44:36):
Thank you very much, abouddy boy.
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