August 3, 2023 • 45 mins
The GOAT can’t stop scoring! Why you will eventually adapt to streaming or not watch sports. There is NO QB under more pressure this season than Dak Prescott. And Pete Fiutak from College Football News swings by for all the latest from the BIG 10, Pac-12 and ACC.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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to an unbelievable moment that just happened in sports.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
I gotta say this, Okay, this is the.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Most nervous time of the year, I think for all
sports fans because every time they get on social media
and you see one of the players on your favorite
NFL team trending, you immediately your heart stops, you start sweating.
It's what happened? Why is a guy on my team trending?
Why has this happened? Why? What happened? What happened in practice?
(01:19):
Was he helped Gingerly off the field? Did the art
come out to get him? Did he walk off under
his own power?
Speaker 3 (01:25):
Did he sit in the front seat of said cart? Yeah?
What difference?
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Was he screyelling and screaming when it happened? All of
these things go through right, And this is like and
I can't stand this. This is like the fourth time
in the last six days where I've gotten on the computer,
you know, a couple minutes before the show whatever it was,
and I see McCole trending mecli and I go, oh, no,
what happened to Mikole Hartman?
Speaker 3 (01:50):
What happened to mccol harton at jets practice?
Speaker 1 (01:52):
I go on and it's flipping a contestant on Big
Brother twenty five that's doing something on the show. And
I'm like, you can't do this, man, you gotta make
sure what not trends it's mc coole has slash tag BB.
You can't do because I got in That's like eight
seconds of my life where I go oh no, what happened?
Speaker 3 (02:08):
Click reveal what is this?
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Because the first thing that comes up is Michole Hartman's
Twitter account and then I go, oh no, it's Big
Brother stuff. And Rob cesternino Is is tweeting about like, okay,
every got gone, Everything is fine?
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Right? I see main sure your heart was working. Yes,
that's good.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Because I see stuff like McCole safe, like, oh is
he safe? That means he got hurt and he's okay,
like what and it's always Big Brother and I'm like,
I got you gotta stop this. You can't have this high.
I can't keep logging on going what happened to mic
Coole Hartman? And it's something from bleeping Big Brother man.
Come on, you gotta do better than that. You can't
just do it. You can't that to me, You can't
do that to all of us, because that's where we're
at right now. At no other time do we get
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online and check things and look at social media when
it is during the NFL season because we don't get
coverage of our favorite teams. You don't see practice video easily.
You gotta go find it somewhere and and okay, what
is it?
Speaker 3 (02:58):
Oh my goodness, what do I gotta see?
Speaker 2 (02:59):
What?
Speaker 3 (02:59):
Okay, No, it's just somebody on Big Brother. I mean,
come on, man, kid, Hey it's a new season, buddy,
it's a new season. So you know, stop your hatred.
You know there are more than one McCole in this world,
and get over it, right, I mean, look, no, no, no,
come on, man. If it gets you to click click
click click, it did its job.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
If you saw Jay Fields trending, you would faint dead away.
And it turns out, oh no, it's Jessica Fields, who
is on the Amazing Race or something, or politician Jessica
Fields who is doing something you would faint dead away.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
Just stop. You would laying there. You're talking about Jason.
Help me? I thought justin Field's everything was wrong? Can
you help me?
Speaker 1 (03:41):
And I'd have to get down and I have to
pump your heart for a while, that have to blow
air into your lungs and that, all of these things.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
I don't want to do what I have to do
that for you? Just stop it, you know I'd have
to do that. As the resident pragmatist and calming force
of this show. All of what you just said is crap. Look,
it's it's the kind of thing I would click on
it is there a story for the show? But is
my heart gonna sink? If? I mean, I would feel
bad for Justin Fields. Next man up and next to
(04:07):
heart attack? Right, I mean from another pole of sasage,
you know that would be the next thought. I did
have a big mac tonight, so I joined your company.
You know, all all the running around, so I celebrated that.
And now I'm watching guys do their cardio while I
sit in a chair and talk to you. But yeah, exactly,
so when you come down to it, all all the
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stuff that's trending. You know, hey, guy throw a football
at a teammate. This guy cursed somebody out. You know,
it's looks certainly for our elder statesman and sports and media, right,
music and entertainment. Yeah, you have that moment, a pause
of oh no, and that takes about five seconds, and
then if it's confirmed, you go oh no again, and
(04:50):
maybe you pull up a song or a film clip,
but you just kind of you move forward. Buddy. Oh
bla old blah dah. Life goes on. Buddy.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
You're just you're you're you're you're not even in reality
right now, you'd be the exact same way. If you
saw that, it's not that you saw like Chase Claypool
tread you think he would.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
Have got cut. I don't think Chase good, I said,
I said terrible. I said, why don't you add cold comet?
While you're okay? What about cold comet? You like to break?
If you saw your ears fifty million dollars, good for him?
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Go on you If you saw Comet trending, you would
get nervous and you would see, oh no, this.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Is Kevin.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Matriculate, who does something on YouTube or whatever it is.
K Met is something, it's k dash Met. Actually no,
you would have the same thing would happen to you
the same exactly.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
You know, I don't. I don't have that. Uh, I
don't ride that same roller coaster. I would say, Oh,
that's too bad. It's not a story we can use
for the show. No, just stock you would you wear it?
Speaker 1 (05:47):
You wear you wear your dirty ass white socks and
bear stuff all the time. You're just as as I am.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
You're just invested.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
I you wear your shower regular you wear those Yeah,
but you but but you know, I mean you have
the great dirty hats which.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
Oh no, no, they're well, well worn and weather it hats.
There's no would be the same way for me, man,
same way at my celebration of it is is there
But okay, in the end, I wish for great health.
I hope for a successful season, but I I don't
you know, shed tears if it goes the wrong way.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
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Mets are gonna get swept by the Royals.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
So you know that's how that I'm losing eleven nothing
to the Rangers. Gave me a big effort tonight.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
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speaking of greatness, once again tonight we have seen greatness
and there's still a long way to go in this game.
Take a listen inside Clipping It Apple TV on the
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call Liono MESSI.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
You watch this.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
You watch this rocket that hits him in the chest
in the box and he calmly drops it and lasers
it in for a goal. The League's Cup going on
right now. Round of thirty two. Inter Miami tiede with
Orlando City won one. Messi just hit the post couple seconds,
you know, I mean, it's insane. Look everything we've told
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you about Messi and soccer and the growth, it's going
to be the fourth biggest sport. All of these things
are happening. But there's a different conversation to have right now.
And if this doesn't tell you about the direction of
where sports is headed in the United States TV wise,
nothing else will. Like we have coming up the story,
worry about the Big twelve, the ACC, the Pack twelve,
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now the PAC nine, maybe the PAC six, who knows.
But and it's all about television rights. And I know
a lot of people and already Frostburg says before the game, Man,
these games got to get off of Apple TV. People
have to be able to see Messi a little bit more.
But this is where the rights are. This is where
MLS is, This is where Messy is. And for everybody
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who wants to keep saying, well, you got to make
it more available, you got to make it more available.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
I got to see it on broadcast TV.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
All things you have heard for the last few years now,
and for the most part, when something had that big
of a demand, it was kowtout too. Eventually as well,
we got to put these games on. We're not getting
the coverage here. We need something else. But what's happening
right now? I'm telling you gird your loins for this
because there is nothing that I am more sure of
(08:48):
than streaming sites Apple, Netflix, whoever winds up getting Amazon
buying NFL package, they are going to change the way
you watch television if they have to jam it down
your throat every single day until you just say enough,
I will deal with what happens now. I will look
into getting Apple TV. I will figure out a way
(09:10):
around my cable, because that's the future. There is nothing
gonna be well, yeah we have it on streaming, but yeah, yeah,
we'll still have it.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
Brea No, No.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
These streaming services are going to every single day hit
you over the head with the fact that you need
to change your way of viewing and you need to
get to streaming sites. You want to and need to
be able to pay for this and understand that you're
gonna have to pay that stuff used to see for
free is not gonna happen anymore. Because these streaming sites
are paying billions upon billions of dollars for these streaming rights.
(09:41):
You are going to have to change, and I know
that as people get older, they don't want to change. Look,
my dad doesn't want to change cable companies. I learned
all the gestages all over again.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
Dad.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
They have a guide. You could just go on the
guide and scroll. You're retired, you can just scroll all
the way down channel one, all the way to channel
five to fifteen. They'll take you about three minutes. No, no, no,
I don't want.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
To do it.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
I don't want to do it. Everybody's gonna have to change.
Nothing's going to come to us. There's not gonna be
an outcry of why are we not seeing MESSI. This
is how it's going to go, because there's no greater
vessel to make this happen than MESSI. Oh, I gotta
be able to see MESSI guess what, Apple TV. This
is the way it goes. You are going to be
broken from your television habits. And I don't want to
(10:21):
be the first one to tell you, but I'll be
the person to tell you that that honestly, you hopefully
listen to that. This is gonna be the way. You
can't unring a bellion. It's not going to go back
to the way it was. This is the present and future,
and every single streaming service is going to stick their
hand down your throat and grab your heart and say
you will change because we're not going back.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
That's what's happening now. Well, the other part of it
is that you know it's far more seamless, right, so
people are used to you no matter your age. Someone's
downloading apps to your phone to help you navigate your world,
but certainly smart TVs. All it is a bunch of
apps that you put on a list, right, So there's
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your login. It's not like you're searching between seven hundred
and fifty cable channels or anything. In this case, you've
got to have the package. I think it was ninety
nine dollars for the year and so or fourteen dollars
a month, depending on how you want to parse it out,
So not terribly expensive. Apple paid the rights for rights
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fee for the exclusivity. So and that's it right. Where
we always talk about sports being the last bashing of
must see TV, I mean, this comes all the way
back to Tom Petty had this back in two thousand
and two with his album The Last DJ, talking about,
you know, on the boys upstairs just want to see
how much you'll pay for what you used to get
for free, talking about the commercialization and repackaging, rebranding of
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all of this streaming services and everything starting to come
online and trying to make sure everybody was getting in
your pocket. And well, that's what we see now. It's fragmented, compartmentalized,
and you have to decide, you know, which of these
entities are most important to you. Yeah, Are there a
bunch of line items for your yearly passes? Because that's
(12:08):
that's the thing. To simplify it. Are you not paying
necessarily a monthly bill unless you want to parse it
out otherwise, here's your Apple TV for seventy dollars a year,
here's your Disney Plus for one hundred dollars a year,
et cetera, et cetera. Amazon for your sixteen dollars a
month for prime, you know, with all the benefits included.
You know, you can parse it out or just have hey,
this bill comes due this month, this one goes the
(12:31):
next month, and just move on from there and people
will get trained to go find their sports. Thusly people
are finding the early morning MLB Peacock game. Those are
doing just fine, as much as people grumbled about that.
And when you've got a must see superstar like this
who's already got a goal and hit the post in
the thirty eighth minute of a game, yeah, people will gravitate.
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People will come or they'll just keep going to X. Well,
they'll get it almost instantly when something good happens X.
Now you're making the X with your hands, right, X, Like, well,
I have one. No, I do it like degeneration X.
It's it's shopped to the crotch.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
See, I think see. I think of it like Paul
Stanley doing the Lets put the X in sect.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
No, that's good too.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Loves like a muscle, and you make me wanta flex baby,
Lets put the exits. Sometimes I would think of hey
as a coach, like, you know, you make the ex Hey,
I'm gonna signal in a play. No, I just like
a Paul Stanley making the ex Let's put that's a
good X.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
I like that. You've got multiple uses for it. I mean,
because then we get the metal stand. You also get
Dez Bryant. So we've got Paul Stanley, we've got Degeneration
X and then we've got Des Brian. That's a pretty
good run, right there. These uniforms still suck, by the.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
Way, Yeah, well yeah again the collars. I don't like
the callers. Why it's sports.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
It's not it's it's not a it's not a uh,
it's not a casual summer friday at work in an office.
Come on, just decide whether you want to wear pink
or purple and be done. I don't mind pinker, but
I don't mind the pink and pearl. I think pier.
Know what I'm saying, Like pink pick one? You know
you're in You're in between. You're no man, say but
look at you. What do you always say? Got to monetize.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
If you can sell a pink messy jersey and a
purple messy jersey, you sell the pink.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
Oh no, no, separate them out though, but have a pink one,
have a purple one. Right now, you're in the in
between stage. I agree.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
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Speaker 1 (14:30):
We talked last hour about the messy effect on sports
here in the United States streaming. And then now you
get a lot of nervous people, Mike Harmon, because you know,
MESSI got hurt a few minutes ago, and now it's.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
He's okay, right, man?
Speaker 1 (14:48):
I feel like when when when that would happen to
de Gram and I would say, okay, I just got
to just keep putting out good fucks.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
De Gram's got to get better. Right, Everything's okay.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
The forearm tightness is nothing, the pinky injury is okay.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
Hey whatever, Oh, Messi's okay. Messi's okay, Messi's okay. He
was fine and played a ball and then the defender
did the you know, the stonewall just stand in his
way and down he went like a ton of bricks.
Did get popped in the mouth a little bit, so
they attended to him. Also got him a nice two
minute break. But where people are more anxious and perhaps
(15:21):
a little upset is in the fiftieth minute opportunity. As
his teammates set up a drive into the box. Joseph
Martinez made the drive and drew the penalty well normally
it's hey, Lionel Messi's gonna come and he's gonna hammer
home the penalty kick. No, no, no, no, no, not so fast,
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as the broadcast said, quote, what leadership by Messi to
allow Martinez to take that penalty kick. Martinez drills the
penalty kick. Now Miami up two to one on Orlando.
But if you had bet on two or more goals
to be scored by the great Lionel Messi, you were
gonna return up plus two twenty five. Right now, that
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is still dead action.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Orlando's gonna be getting a call from league officers tomorrow. Hey,
just so you know, he's the entire league, all right,
if people like to see him score, if we see
that again, if we sit, don't make me come down there.
I will come down you watch the hell I will
reek on all of you. Just let's remember who Messi
is and what's going on here. Okay, let's all get
(16:30):
on the same page. In fact, you know it, never mind,
We're gonna have a conference call tomorrow with every team
in the MLS and we're gonna talk about this and
see and make sure everybody's on the same page.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
Yeah, pretty scary, pretty crazy, you know. The uh, that
kind of sequencing when he doesn't strive to go take
the PK. Everybody's looking around, going line, what.
Speaker 4 (16:53):
Do we do?
Speaker 3 (16:54):
Martinez doesn't cut through. I mean, good player, longtime player,
and made the play and got rewarded for the drive
and drawing the penalty. I guess, but I mean, you know,
come on, now, come on, what's paying the bills? Here?
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(17:14):
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Speaker 3 (17:32):
So today in.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
The NFL, we had a story that just is so
delicious and now you know, there's no question about this.
The quarterback under the most pressure this year in the NFL,
without a doubt, is Dak Prescott. Today at Cowboys camp,
there was a big time exchange between he and Trevon Diggs,
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who told Dak Prescott to shut you know, blank blank
up in a big training camp exchange. Following a play
in which Dak Prescott ran for a touchdown. Escaping the
pass rush, he eluded a defender met in the end
zone by Diggs, dig starts yelling at him. Malik Hooker,
also a big veteran safety, had an exchange with Dak Prescott.
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Not a lot was made public as to why this happened,
but nothing changes from what why just said? There is
no quarterback under more pressure this season than Dak Prescott.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
Now why right?
Speaker 1 (18:29):
First of all, let's go back to the playoff game
against San Francisco, in which he had a horrendous game.
The Niners had one touchdown, the Cowboys defense played phenomenal,
and yes, the Niners were absolutely loaded, but Dak Prescott
had a horrible game. Two first half turnovers that were awful.
The Cowboys never really threatened. Dak Prescott could not get
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the team moving. And I told you after that happened,
I said, you just watch. Everything is now changed about
Dak Prescott. All of the love that Jerry Jones gave him,
and all the love his teammates have, and all the
love he's getting around the league. This game changes that.
Because this is a game the Cowboys should have won.
They should have moved on to the NFC Championship game.
Their defense played, everything was fine, right. Tony Pollard gets
(19:16):
knocked out of the game and he was a revelation
last year. He gets knocked out of the game at halftime. Okay, Dak,
this is what we're paying you all this money for,
and Dak Prescott could not deliver at all. Everything changed
for Dak in that moment. Now the pressure is there,
and Dak is a guy that's embraced and has loved
being a superstar. He has loved that he's getting paid
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the big money. He loves that he's a big star.
But now everybody's gone from all in on him to
skeptically in because everybody wants more. After that game, he
has run out of chances. The fans want more, the
team wants more, the front office wants more. Notice how
talk is cool about Hey, we're gonna sign back to
(19:59):
an extension sometime. Everybody wants more. And he is under
the most pressure than any other quarterback to have a
big year this year because he has out of chances.
He has gone from feel good story and look how
good he is. They replace Romo and look at Dak
and the Cowboys in the national conversation, and they're making
the playoffs every couple of years or two out of
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every three years, and that was great. But now that
game changed everything. And Dak who said, what week ago? Oh,
I want to make sure I cut my interceptions down
this year. Yeah that's great. How about you? You say, hey,
we got to win, We got a wagon to do
whatever it.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
Is to win. I would have cut my interceptions down
this year.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
Whatever is going on in Cowboys camp, they are not
happy with Dak Prescott. Some of his teammates are not happy.
These are veterans, these are guys, These are good players
who are saying, hey, Dak, you better blank blank blank
and blank blank blank and blank blank blank and whatever.
The short the story of this is, it doesn't matter
because the overarching story is we need more out of you,
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and Dak Prescott has to know that at this point
or they're gonna be some big, big time repercussions after
the season.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
Yeah. I think it's it's a fun rivalry, right, the
defense getting the better of Prescott with some regularity, and
that's enough for cause concern. We saw that amongst a
number of camps coming out today, we heard the Broncos
talking about Russell Wilson and the offensive struggles in Bears camp.
(21:23):
It's just advance the year, Fields and company not having
a great day against a repurposed, repackaged Bears defense either.
And then you know with Prescott at this point, yeah,
it's they they want to see that level match because
for the the guys last year, they did everything they
could defensively right to give them a chance and their
(21:46):
best chance. And we talk about glory and how fleeting
those opportunities are when you play that well as a
unit that you need the others to match. So, yeah,
he's getting the heat internally. Externally it's it's the same
old questions in Jerry world, right, because everything gets magnified
to a larger degree. Some of it might just be
(22:07):
the all right, we've been here long enough that now
we hate each other again and we want to go
hit somebody else. So there's always some of that psychology
going on. But I would think that for Dak Prescott,
certainly from us in a national media perspective, it's the
all right, you've been good, you've been great at times.
Now you got to finish the job. Like when we
(22:28):
look at Kirk Cousins. Everybody loves him. He's all warm
and fuzzy coming out of the Quarterback Show on Netflix.
But doesn't mean that, you know, in primetime games and
come December, people aren't gonna have the poison pens right
back out for what he's done historically, Dak's just getting
it a little earlier than he normally does. Normally. It's
the love fest of Hey, the Cowboys are ready to
(22:49):
make another big run. Well, the divisions there and fighting you,
there's no weakness to any of it. Daniel Jones, as
much as folks can criticize him, look at all the
moves they made to bolster that receiving corps between Waller
and just going on down the line, between the draft
choice of Hyatt and so on. I mean, there's guys
(23:11):
that are gonna be an absolute pain for defenses to track.
So yeah, you look at those windows and you recognize
that they can close. And so for the Cowboys, all eyes,
all pressure. Everybody expects greatness out of Ceedee lamb oh,
and your number one running backs not in camp, so
you got that going for you too. We'll spend a
lot of time talking about douche Baughn because he's as
(23:34):
tall as I am. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
No, Look, and this is a case of if you
think that, well, what are you saying, Dak Prescott on
pressure this year? Never look at anybody's contract and say
they can't be moved. Never look at anybody's deal and
say this is impossible. Trade that can happen. We thought
it was impossible with Aaron Rodgers. What happened, the guy
got traded. Happened pretty easily, right, Know, look at the
(23:57):
dead cap, Look at this, Look at that. If Aaron
Rodgers can traded with the bad contract he had, anybody can, right.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
So stop with all this motivated buyers and sellers. But
the dead capture tactors. It's sixty two million after this,
it doesn't matter.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
It does not matter because it was a bigger dead
cab for rat And look what Rogers did. And now, hey,
I'll give back some of the money and I'll make
it back somehow over the court. At this point, money,
money doesn't matter. You can fix money any way, shape
or form. So don't look at Prescott's contract to go
(24:31):
oh forget it. If Prescott has a bad twenty twenty three,
you were gonna watch the Dallas Cowboys go can we
get better at quarterback? Is there a better guy out
there for us? And let's pursue and go get them
because we're paying Dak a lot of money and now
he's thirty one years old. And where are we we
need to if we are Dak Prescott driven? And this
(24:52):
is where we're at with Dak Prescott. No that we
can't be Dak Prescott driven anymore. The memory is still
there of Cooper Rush coming in and the team playing
in credible behind him. Not that Cooper Rush is a
great quarterback, but you saw, Hey, the Cowboys really galvanize
themselves around a backup quarterback last year and they won
a bunch of games. At some point, the Cowboys are
going to think we can do better at quarterback than
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Dak Prescott. It's good a couple of great seasons that
he has, and Dak Prescott's a talented guy. Last again,
that game against the forty nine ers changed everything. He
lost all of the good will he had in all
the cachet and now it's you gotta come through now
a bad year and watch Dallas move on from him
in the offseason, and you're gonna see Dak Prescott's name
(25:34):
and in all kinds of trade talk and maybe he
needs to go here. He Dak needs to get away
from Dallas. And Dak would be a good quarterback if
he's out of the line light and all these stories
you're gonna get Watch the Cowboys because they're not gonna
go through a bad year with Dak and say, hey,
guess what, we're ready to sign up for another.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
Year of that. This is great man.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
Yeah, wait, no, no, no, this is That's why he
is under the most pressure this year than any other game.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
Jason, what do you got? Frostburg? Shut your ba up?
What are you worried about? That was really well done there, Frostburg.
I think one of the things that it goes back
to the uh. Will Stephen be able to uh, you know,
put Jerry in a closet or have him, you know,
at the dessert station when it comes time for those
discussions like he did in the draft room when they
(26:20):
wanted to take manzell uh because otherwise, you know, you
never say never. I mean, look at how long Jason
Garrett was running around those hallways. Look at Zeke Elliot's gone,
and Jerry Jones still keeps pining for his return.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
I haven't ruled it out yet. He's still out there.
I'm still say for Tony Dorset to come back. We
got we got lots of the good stuff going on
with Tony.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
We're pretty excited about it. So you got you got
all of that still swirling. So the one thing is Jerry.
Jerry's loyalty might be the one saving grace.
Speaker 4 (26:51):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
If Dak Prescott doesn't perform to a great level, he's due.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
I'll tell you, man, it is it really. I get
that that Jerry is is more loyal to his players
that he drafted. That he should be right because because
that's that's Jerry's thing, right, because he Jack was also
a bargain. Remember he made the Cowboys.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
He drafted Dak, right, he drafted Dak, he drafted Elliott.
When he drafts somebody, Hey, if I draft.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
You or I make a big move to trade for
you, you're one of my guys, and I gotta make sure
you succeed because if you look like you're succeeding, that
means I'm good at what I do and I don't
like being question about what I do. Jerry Jones does
not like that, so He's always had much more of
a I don't want to say a soft spot, but
the lack of of of great play and the the
(27:45):
the possibility of not having a player that he drafted.
It always works out in the player's behalf right. And
Ezekiel Elliott held out because he knew Jerry Jones wanted
to pay him. He knew Jerry Jones wants to pay
me because he drafted me, and it looks bad if
he lets me go.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
He's always had that with Dak Prescott, and Dak.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
Has had a long time man, he has had a
long time to try to win, and he's had some
big seasons and I'm not saying he hasn't. But in
the end, the Dallas Cowboys, this is a championship type team.
Every single season they go win. There is no rebuilding.
This is can we win the Super Bowl this year?
Speaker 3 (28:20):
Right?
Speaker 1 (28:20):
Some teams want to stay competitive, some teams want to
make money. The Cowboys, they want to win. That's the
one thing to say about Jerry Jones. He wants to win.
And all of that cachet is now gone for Dak Prescott.
So you think after this year it's still going to
be We love Dak and think Dak is good. No,
that's not happening after this year.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
This is well, we.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
Kind of lack the Rogers kid, but the Jets they're
paying a lot of money, but we lack the Wilson
fella behind him. He looks pretty good, got strong arm.
Maybe make a big deal for him and send a
couple of guys over that way. They will look into
another quarterback after this year, trust me, trust me.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
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Speaker 1 (29:04):
We have had a big last couple of days in
college football, the end of the Pac twelve sure now
the end of the ACC probably joining us now in
the hotline to break it all down. Nobody better the owner, editor,
proprietor Collegefootballnews dot Com. You can check him out. He's
(29:25):
got all the previews, all the info you need. Longtime
friend of the show, Pete Feutech. You can follow him
on Twitter at Pete Futech. No better college football insider
who is really sucking it up tonight as I'm counting
down to the Jets. Pete feutech is about nine hours
away from the beginning of Lollapalooza that he is ready
(29:47):
to attend.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
Pete, thank you for stopping by.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
Are you just gonna stay up all night until Lollapaloza
starts at ten o'clock tomorrow?
Speaker 4 (29:54):
No, See, here's my thing. I am old, so being old,
don't I'm not going to outlud. I go to the
after shows that have like the more and stuff, so
I can. So I go to the ones that have,
you know, I just the bands I want to see.
I'll see it, like the Metro and things like that. So,
(30:16):
but standing outside with a bunch of people who pretty
much a third of my age at this point, there's
no I'm too old for these bands that are out
right now except for Red Hot Chili Peppers is the
one band from my era. And that's about it.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
Is this show that you're not done, Pete.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
You're not going to see Landa del Ray like you're
going to see like the Lumineers in a in the
intimate setting.
Speaker 4 (30:37):
That's what you're doing, actually, the in the weird part. Yeah,
so I just saw it this very XMU breathy band
called Men. I trust I'm seeing Silvanetto on Sunday night,
and usually I would go see the DJs because that's
just the type of person I am. And my daughters
are seeing Lona del Ray and Billie Eilish, those are
the ones that they're into.
Speaker 3 (30:54):
Yes, Oh very nice. All right.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
So as you're getting ready for this, you're getting ready
for the intimates the craziness of college football the last
couple days, Let's start with the PAC twelve before you
get to the ACC. The Big ten says they want
to talk with Oregon, Washington, cal Stanford, but they want
to back off.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
They don't want to be seen as predatory. Yet too
late for that, Pete.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
With this news coming off the PAC twelve announcement yesterday
that they could have a streaming partner for games, that's
kind of been met.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
With a shrug.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
Is there any way the PAC twelve survives? I mean,
I just think it's a matter. It's dying right now,
and I don't know what the time of death is
going to be. But these schools are all going to
go to the Big ten and and the PAC twelve
is going to be the PAC eight, the PAC six
with a bunch of also ran schools, trying to make
it up.
Speaker 4 (31:41):
Well, here's the problem. I still think that there is
going to be a PAC twelve in some form because
what's getting lotched here is that there isn't exactly a
chair for everybody. So well, like this thought of all,
we're going to go to twenty teams, like the Big
twelve doesn't have money to do this. They can top
(32:02):
out about fourteen teams, so they can top up by
taking Arizona and let's say they're going to go Utah
doesn't seem to be interested, so maybe Arizona State, but
they would rather not do that. They're just going to
ghost Yukon, who do this whole thing, And they're saying, no,
we're going to take Yukon for basketball, and I'm we're
going to expand our quickprint. Now now they're going to
go for a couple more packed one teams, but they don't.
(32:25):
Their money isn't there. And with what's going to be
interesting about this whole process is will the money be
there five years from now? Because these deals are all
based on traditional network contracts, that says that one of
these big major you know networks is going to pay
all this money for these deals. But what's missing is
(32:48):
and this is where you know, I Joe gam Old
al blah blah blah. But we're we're missing as old
people is young people don't watch TV. They stream. So
the idea of like, yeah, of Apple being the main
partner for the PAC twelve, well you're talking to a
bunch of old college presidents and a bunch of old
athletic directors who don't get it that this is actually
(33:12):
probably the more progressively correct deal. But it's way too
hard of a cell when you're going to base your
athletic budget and your athlete department budget on subscription to
a streaming service. But if you think about this through,
it's Apple, it could be Nike, if Oregon's still a
part of it, it's the Beats brand, It's all the
(33:32):
different marketing arms that could make this thing really rock.
But it is way too out there for a bunch
of athletic directors who just want to take the money
and keep things going.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
Yeah, and when you look at the PAC twelve, they're
run by a guy whose main endorser was was Shill
and we see what a bangup job he's doing at Northwest. Yeah,
But continuing along the rights passage ACC deal. From everything
I've read, Pete, I kept checking the math, twenty thirty
six is what they're signed up through. So Florida State
(34:03):
has one big year of first ten win season in
quite some time, and all of a sudden they're trying
to flex. How does that end in the ACC? How
quickly do they splinter off?
Speaker 4 (34:13):
I don't think they do, because you're twenty thirty six.
There's a waffer. It's a cree I should notice off
the top of my head. But it's not just you know,
like getting a San Diego State where you say okay
with a thirty four million dollar extra fee if you're
leaving the ACC. It's kind of like you know, smashing
your rental car you're passing for you you have to
pay for like loss of use. You have to pay
(34:35):
for all the money you would have made for. It's
a really really bad deal for all the ACC teams
that are in there. And but that might not be
that much if somebody really wants Florida State. As I
keep saying, we're not talking about a ton of money here,
because justin Herbert's going to make ten to twenty million
dollars more per year over the next five years, and
(34:57):
Colorado's going to make off of this Big twelve deal.
I mean, it's in the sports business world. It's a
lot of money to normal people, but it's just not
that much. And the other part of this thing, too,
is who really desperately wants Florida State and why? Because
if you're the SEC, you've pretty much already dominated the
Florida market. Florida State doesn't exactly lift your overall brand
(35:21):
unless you can say, well, they're going to be worth
fifty million dollars extra a year in TV packaging. Big ten,
it doesn't. Florida State doesn't fit the Big ten. It
just especially you know, I'm not going to get political here,
but especially with what's happening kind of around that state,
and that's the flagship at the moment, that doesn't quite
fit what Big ten presidents are going to be into.
(35:44):
Even though the academic side of things is all there.
So I'm Florida State's certainly talking big, but they're all
talking big because they just want more money and I
think they're going to get that eventually from the ACC.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
But pet but here's here, let me do the flip
side of that. Now doesn't need to be the Big
Ten could be the SEC right if they because you're
talking about if Florida State leaves, and it's talking about leaving,
Miami's not staying, so they'll go, and Clemson's not staying,
so they'll go. You're talking about them, but where they're going.
Speaker 4 (36:12):
Who's got all this money? And that's I mean, they're
not getting a seventy million that the Big And that's
the thing about that's the hidden thing about all this
is like, let's say the Big ten really does get
Oregon and Washington. They're going to welcome them in at
discount prices. They're getting them at Rutgers and Maryland prices.
They're not giving them a full year, but it's still
(36:35):
a better deal for them. Like look at it. And
this is why why I don't think the PAC twelve
is going to go away, because again, when we're not
talking about that much money, Let's say the PAC twelve
loses like five or six. Let's say they lose Callen
Stanford and Oregon, Washington and Arizona and Arizona State. Well,
let's say they go go take a bunch of Mountain
West teams and let's say SMU and they figure something
(36:58):
out out well right now, Mountain West teams only make
like a lot four million dollars a year off their
media deal, so if you're often than twelve, that would
be more. So you don't have to offer necessarily a
full share to get some of the school to come across.
And there is a point again where we keep thinking
that there's all this money there from the TV networks,
(37:19):
but as we're seeing, if it's not sports, especially with
this strike and the actors strike and everything, sports is
pretty much the only thing left until these places they
are going to have to overpay to get sports because
that's the only sure thing programming that anybody's going to watch.
And then money might not be there because everyone under
the age of like people who watch baseball stream for
(37:41):
a stream, they don't know what a TV commercial is.
They don't watch them.
Speaker 3 (37:45):
New World Order, Apple and so many streaming services. Look,
those apps are all over you know, even you know,
my my parents in their mid seventies, I've taught them
how to use apps, and we if you bought a
TV in the last take years, it's there and just
staring in the face so that you can use it.
Speaker 4 (38:05):
As lost as you can use those depths on your
big TV I mean right exactly, which is what my
family does. So yeah, Netflix, Hulu, all that stuff. It's
all these streaming services. That's how people are. Nobody cares
that the game's on ESPN. Nobody cares where it is,
excepting really particularly like the announcers. But if you're into
the game, you're going to find a way to watch them.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
Pete Futech, who is listening to Night Ranger on cassette
according to his Twitter podcast right now the Jason Smith
Show with Mike Carmon Live the tirec dot Com Studios. Now,
the thing is, Pete, Florida State wants more money, but
they wouldn't talk about leaving if they didn't have some
kind of plan.
Speaker 3 (38:43):
Okay, if we do leave, what's it going to be?
Speaker 1 (38:45):
You can figure out the money, You're right, Whoever the
money needs to be, Florida State can figure it out.
They can go to court, they can say, well, instead
of that, how about we give you sixty million right now?
Or instead of getting tied up in all these things.
Is there any way that we are not going to
at some point have a three conference a three super
(39:07):
conference situation, whether it's the big ten that will become
the Big twenty, and the Big twelve, which will be
the Big sixteen, and the SEC. Because with all this,
once you see a conference that has some kind of
of vulnerability to it, it doesn't it doesn't make it
for the long term. That's why this is such a
horrible news day for the ACC because here's one of
the big, high profile schools that wants to go and
(39:29):
once you start seeing that that bit of weakness, it
doesn't suddenly get stronger and we get other schools coming
they want to come play in the ACC.
Speaker 4 (39:36):
Well, but first of all, what do you think we
have now? We have the Big two. We've had the
Big two for like thirty years. Yeah, it's you PEC
twelve and the Big twelve you know, had some nice
teams and nice moments, but when it comes to the
business in college sports, the Big ten dominates everybody, and
the SEC because it's the SEC and they've got their
(39:58):
world of football. It is the Big two and everyone else.
And remember this is not just about like on field performance,
it's about markets. And with the Big twelve, why they
are not going to be a part of this, you know,
higher end, they're not going to get you know, past
the bouncer into the you know, the swank lounge. They
don't have the markets. Where's their TV markets? It might
(40:20):
be they have Dallas, but they have their like second
tier when you got TCU and Baylor compared to Texas
in the Dallas Fort Worth area. You know, they kind
of have Houston now at the University of Houston. That's
second tier compared to you know, the love and affection
for Texas, A and M and UT it's in Houston.
So compared to like the Big ten who are now
(40:42):
has you know, the LA market. They've got whatever New
York market you can claim, they got Chicago for the
most part, they've got TV markets. The SEC doesn't really
have TV markets, but they own obviously the southeast part
of the country. So again, what does Florida State do
for you business wise? Because it's not going to really
crank up a new marketer or footprint for the SEC,
(41:04):
which is I keep saying the SEC should be all
over Oregon, in Washington. They should look at what the
Big ten is doing, go coast to coast. This is
business time. You need a bigger, larger area to go after.
The Big ten is going to just dominate from coast
to coast, and the SEC is not going to be
(41:24):
able to necessarily keep up business wise, the big cost
certainly once so again, this is nice if Florida State
wants more money, but who's going to necessarily bend over
backwards to get them? North Carolina that's the layale, That's
the one that everyone wants, because remember the Big Ten
likes the University of insert state name here. They don't
(41:45):
go after you know, schools with the word state in them.
They go after the University of Maryland, the University of Nebraska,
you know, North Carolina. They want the big giant schools.
That is the market that extends everything for the SEC
or the Big can and that would be the bidding
war even more than Florida State.
Speaker 3 (42:06):
Yeah, the hard part for me, Pete is going forward,
say next year, the year following. None of the histories
of any of these conference play really matter anymore because
everybody's jumbled up.
Speaker 4 (42:17):
Yeah. Well, remember when I first started this twenty five
years this whole cfent thing twenty five years ago. Oh
my god, what college football is over? There's no Southwest
Conference anymore? Like oh the tradition, Oh dear God, And
look at this look at this big twelve that they're
for going to form. It's awful. It's you know, all
the power teams like Kansas State and Colorado are up
(42:40):
in the north and Nebraska and the south with Texas
and Oklahoma. It's just a weaklings. These things change. And
again going with the youth movement here, young people don't care.
They don't know who Tim Tebow is. You think anybody
cares about like you know, the old school Oklahoma Nebraska
rivalries or worth in Miami. No, they just want to
(43:02):
know what they can go on their phone and bet.
Speaker 3 (43:06):
Are you talking about the state of Iowa, Pete? Is
that all you're doing there?
Speaker 4 (43:11):
You get Hunter Deckers out of my mouth? No, Iowa
not but Pete.
Speaker 1 (43:16):
Lastly, look what's your takeaway of that situation with the
look the Iowa betting sting, unearthing that Iowa States quarterback
and Iowa's kicker gambling on sports, Like I look at
this and go if this doesn't tell you how widespread
an issue this is. Because this is just Iowa that
we found out, this is going on everywhere. This is
going to be a bigger and bigger story as time
(43:36):
goes on.
Speaker 4 (43:37):
It is one hundred times bigger than the realignment story.
Everybody bet. Everybody has a wager on something. Either they
have a bracket during March Madness, either they're playing. And
here's the thing that no one likes to talk about.
Fantasy football is a prop bet. That's all it is.
And if you're an NFL player playing fantasy football for
(43:58):
money and anyway, you are gambling on the NFL and
prop bets, college kids, all of them. Everybody has it
on their phone. Everybody is betting on sports. And so
either you figure out how to harness that and work
within the system, or else you just it's going to
be hard because you're not gonna be able to police it.
(44:19):
That's the biggest part. Forget nil, forget all the stuff
at Congress. That's the biggest threat to sports. In whatever
vague level you want to look at.
Speaker 1 (44:30):
You can follow on Twitter at Pete Feutech that is
at Pete few Tech. Say I know, at Lollapalooza or sorry,
at the after party, No, I know. Look at all
the small venues around town, and that's the best small venues.
Will He will interrupt watching the Lumineers to give you
his take on anything.
Speaker 3 (44:48):
College football.
Speaker 1 (44:49):
This is Pete's actual cassette playing right now, letting you
know Pete is always buddy, appreciating my friend.
Speaker 3 (44:55):
Enjoy the concert.
Speaker 4 (44:56):
We'll talk to you so, I actually will. I will
actually talk college football to take him break from from
watching concerts anytime.
Speaker 3 (45:02):
Yeah, my guy. Happy New Year, buddy. Yeah, listen, that's
it's it's a night Ranger on cassette.
Speaker 2 (45:10):
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Speaker 3 (00:53):
I gotta say this, Okay, this is the.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Most nervous time of the year, I think for all
sports fans because every time they get on social media
and you see one of the players on your favorite
NFL team trending, you immediately your heart stops, you start sweating.
It's what happened? Why is a guy on my team trending?
Why has this happened? Why? What happened? What happened in practice?
(01:19):
Was he helped Gingerly off the field? Did the art
come out to get him? Did he walk off under
his own power?
Speaker 3 (01:25):
Did he sit in the front seat of said cart? Yeah?
What difference?
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Was he screyelling and screaming when it happened? All of
these things go through right, And this is like and
I can't stand this. This is like the fourth time
in the last six days where I've gotten on the computer,
you know, a couple minutes before the show whatever it was,
and I see McCole trending mecli and I go, oh, no,
what happened to Mikole Hartman?
Speaker 3 (01:50):
What happened to mccol harton at jets practice?
Speaker 1 (01:52):
I go on and it's flipping a contestant on Big
Brother twenty five that's doing something on the show. And
I'm like, you can't do this, man, you gotta make
sure what not trends it's mc coole has slash tag BB.
You can't do because I got in That's like eight
seconds of my life where I go oh no, what happened?
Speaker 3 (02:08):
Click reveal what is this?
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Because the first thing that comes up is Michole Hartman's
Twitter account and then I go, oh no, it's Big
Brother stuff. And Rob cesternino Is is tweeting about like, okay,
every got gone, Everything is fine?
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Right? I see main sure your heart was working. Yes,
that's good.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Because I see stuff like McCole safe, like, oh is
he safe? That means he got hurt and he's okay,
like what and it's always Big Brother and I'm like,
I got you gotta stop this. You can't have this high.
I can't keep logging on going what happened to mic
Coole Hartman? And it's something from bleeping Big Brother man.
Come on, you gotta do better than that. You can't
just do it. You can't that to me, You can't
do that to all of us, because that's where we're
at right now. At no other time do we get
(02:46):
online and check things and look at social media when
it is during the NFL season because we don't get
coverage of our favorite teams. You don't see practice video easily.
You gotta go find it somewhere and and okay, what
is it?
Speaker 3 (02:58):
Oh my goodness, what do I gotta see?
Speaker 2 (02:59):
What?
Speaker 3 (02:59):
Okay, No, it's just somebody on Big Brother. I mean,
come on, man, kid, Hey it's a new season, buddy,
it's a new season. So you know, stop your hatred.
You know there are more than one McCole in this world,
and get over it, right, I mean, look, no, no, no,
come on, man. If it gets you to click click
click click, it did its job.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
If you saw Jay Fields trending, you would faint dead away.
And it turns out, oh no, it's Jessica Fields, who
is on the Amazing Race or something, or politician Jessica
Fields who is doing something you would faint dead away.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
Just stop. You would laying there. You're talking about Jason.
Help me? I thought justin Field's everything was wrong? Can
you help me?
Speaker 1 (03:41):
And I'd have to get down and I have to
pump your heart for a while, that have to blow
air into your lungs and that, all of these things.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
I don't want to do what I have to do
that for you? Just stop it, you know I'd have
to do that. As the resident pragmatist and calming force
of this show. All of what you just said is crap. Look,
it's it's the kind of thing I would click on
it is there a story for the show? But is
my heart gonna sink? If? I mean, I would feel
bad for Justin Fields. Next man up and next to
(04:07):
heart attack? Right, I mean from another pole of sasage,
you know that would be the next thought. I did
have a big mac tonight, so I joined your company.
You know, all all the running around, so I celebrated that.
And now I'm watching guys do their cardio while I
sit in a chair and talk to you. But yeah, exactly,
so when you come down to it, all all the
(04:28):
stuff that's trending. You know, hey, guy throw a football
at a teammate. This guy cursed somebody out. You know,
it's looks certainly for our elder statesman and sports and media, right,
music and entertainment. Yeah, you have that moment, a pause
of oh no, and that takes about five seconds, and
then if it's confirmed, you go oh no again, and
(04:50):
maybe you pull up a song or a film clip,
but you just kind of you move forward. Buddy. Oh
bla old blah dah. Life goes on. Buddy.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
You're just you're you're you're you're not even in reality
right now, you'd be the exact same way. If you
saw that, it's not that you saw like Chase Claypool
tread you think he would.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
Have got cut. I don't think Chase good, I said,
I said terrible. I said, why don't you add cold comet?
While you're okay? What about cold comet? You like to break?
If you saw your ears fifty million dollars, good for him?
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Go on you If you saw Comet trending, you would
get nervous and you would see, oh no, this.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Is Kevin.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Matriculate, who does something on YouTube or whatever it is.
K Met is something, it's k dash Met. Actually no,
you would have the same thing would happen to you
the same exactly.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
You know, I don't. I don't have that. Uh, I
don't ride that same roller coaster. I would say, Oh,
that's too bad. It's not a story we can use
for the show. No, just stock you would you wear it?
Speaker 1 (05:47):
You wear you wear your dirty ass white socks and
bear stuff all the time. You're just as as I am.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
You're just invested.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
I you wear your shower regular you wear those Yeah,
but you but but you know, I mean you have
the great dirty hats which.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
Oh no, no, they're well, well worn and weather it hats.
There's no would be the same way for me, man,
same way at my celebration of it is is there
But okay, in the end, I wish for great health.
I hope for a successful season, but I I don't
you know, shed tears if it goes the wrong way.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Twitter at how about a Fresco Mike gets swollen dome
the Jason Chip Show with my best friend Mike car
Mets are gonna get swept by the Royals.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
So you know that's how that I'm losing eleven nothing
to the Rangers. Gave me a big effort tonight.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
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speaking of greatness, once again tonight we have seen greatness
and there's still a long way to go in this game.
Take a listen inside Clipping It Apple TV on the
(07:20):
call Liono MESSI.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
You watch this.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
You watch this rocket that hits him in the chest
in the box and he calmly drops it and lasers
it in for a goal. The League's Cup going on
right now. Round of thirty two. Inter Miami tiede with
Orlando City won one. Messi just hit the post couple seconds,
you know, I mean, it's insane. Look everything we've told
(07:42):
you about Messi and soccer and the growth, it's going
to be the fourth biggest sport. All of these things
are happening. But there's a different conversation to have right now.
And if this doesn't tell you about the direction of
where sports is headed in the United States TV wise,
nothing else will. Like we have coming up the story,
worry about the Big twelve, the ACC, the Pack twelve,
(08:02):
now the PAC nine, maybe the PAC six, who knows.
But and it's all about television rights. And I know
a lot of people and already Frostburg says before the game, Man,
these games got to get off of Apple TV. People
have to be able to see Messi a little bit more.
But this is where the rights are. This is where
MLS is, This is where Messy is. And for everybody
(08:23):
who wants to keep saying, well, you got to make
it more available, you got to make it more available.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
I got to see it on broadcast TV.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
All things you have heard for the last few years now,
and for the most part, when something had that big
of a demand, it was kowtout too. Eventually as well,
we got to put these games on. We're not getting
the coverage here. We need something else. But what's happening
right now? I'm telling you gird your loins for this
because there is nothing that I am more sure of
(08:48):
than streaming sites Apple, Netflix, whoever winds up getting Amazon
buying NFL package, they are going to change the way
you watch television if they have to jam it down
your throat every single day until you just say enough,
I will deal with what happens now. I will look
into getting Apple TV. I will figure out a way
(09:10):
around my cable, because that's the future. There is nothing
gonna be well, yeah we have it on streaming, but yeah, yeah,
we'll still have it.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
Brea No, No.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
These streaming services are going to every single day hit
you over the head with the fact that you need
to change your way of viewing and you need to
get to streaming sites. You want to and need to
be able to pay for this and understand that you're
gonna have to pay that stuff used to see for
free is not gonna happen anymore. Because these streaming sites
are paying billions upon billions of dollars for these streaming rights.
(09:41):
You are going to have to change, and I know
that as people get older, they don't want to change. Look,
my dad doesn't want to change cable companies. I learned
all the gestages all over again.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
Dad.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
They have a guide. You could just go on the
guide and scroll. You're retired, you can just scroll all
the way down channel one, all the way to channel
five to fifteen. They'll take you about three minutes. No, no, no,
I don't want.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
To do it.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
I don't want to do it. Everybody's gonna have to change.
Nothing's going to come to us. There's not gonna be
an outcry of why are we not seeing MESSI. This
is how it's going to go, because there's no greater
vessel to make this happen than MESSI. Oh, I gotta
be able to see MESSI guess what, Apple TV. This
is the way it goes. You are going to be
broken from your television habits. And I don't want to
(10:21):
be the first one to tell you, but I'll be
the person to tell you that that honestly, you hopefully
listen to that. This is gonna be the way. You
can't unring a bellion. It's not going to go back
to the way it was. This is the present and future,
and every single streaming service is going to stick their
hand down your throat and grab your heart and say
you will change because we're not going back.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
That's what's happening now. Well, the other part of it
is that you know it's far more seamless, right, so
people are used to you no matter your age. Someone's
downloading apps to your phone to help you navigate your world,
but certainly smart TVs. All it is a bunch of
apps that you put on a list, right, So there's
(11:00):
your login. It's not like you're searching between seven hundred
and fifty cable channels or anything. In this case, you've
got to have the package. I think it was ninety
nine dollars for the year and so or fourteen dollars
a month, depending on how you want to parse it out,
So not terribly expensive. Apple paid the rights for rights
(11:23):
fee for the exclusivity. So and that's it right. Where
we always talk about sports being the last bashing of
must see TV, I mean, this comes all the way
back to Tom Petty had this back in two thousand
and two with his album The Last DJ, talking about,
you know, on the boys upstairs just want to see
how much you'll pay for what you used to get
for free, talking about the commercialization and repackaging, rebranding of
(11:48):
all of this streaming services and everything starting to come
online and trying to make sure everybody was getting in
your pocket. And well, that's what we see now. It's fragmented, compartmentalized,
and you have to decide, you know, which of these
entities are most important to you. Yeah, Are there a
bunch of line items for your yearly passes? Because that's
(12:08):
that's the thing. To simplify it. Are you not paying
necessarily a monthly bill unless you want to parse it
out otherwise, here's your Apple TV for seventy dollars a year,
here's your Disney Plus for one hundred dollars a year,
et cetera, et cetera. Amazon for your sixteen dollars a
month for prime, you know, with all the benefits included.
You know, you can parse it out or just have hey,
this bill comes due this month, this one goes the
(12:31):
next month, and just move on from there and people
will get trained to go find their sports. Thusly people
are finding the early morning MLB Peacock game. Those are
doing just fine, as much as people grumbled about that.
And when you've got a must see superstar like this
who's already got a goal and hit the post in
the thirty eighth minute of a game, yeah, people will gravitate.
(12:53):
People will come or they'll just keep going to X. Well,
they'll get it almost instantly when something good happens X.
Now you're making the X with your hands, right, X, Like, well,
I have one. No, I do it like degeneration X.
It's it's shopped to the crotch.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
See, I think see. I think of it like Paul
Stanley doing the Lets put the X in sect.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
No, that's good too.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Loves like a muscle, and you make me wanta flex baby,
Lets put the exits. Sometimes I would think of hey
as a coach, like, you know, you make the ex Hey,
I'm gonna signal in a play. No, I just like
a Paul Stanley making the ex Let's put that's a
good X.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
I like that. You've got multiple uses for it. I mean,
because then we get the metal stand. You also get
Dez Bryant. So we've got Paul Stanley, we've got Degeneration
X and then we've got Des Brian. That's a pretty
good run, right there. These uniforms still suck, by the.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
Way, Yeah, well yeah again the collars. I don't like
the callers. Why it's sports.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
It's not it's it's not a it's not a uh,
it's not a casual summer friday at work in an office.
Come on, just decide whether you want to wear pink
or purple and be done. I don't mind pinker, but
I don't mind the pink and pearl. I think pier.
Know what I'm saying, Like pink pick one? You know
you're in You're in between. You're no man, say but
look at you. What do you always say? Got to monetize.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
If you can sell a pink messy jersey and a
purple messy jersey, you sell the pink.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
Oh no, no, separate them out though, but have a pink one,
have a purple one. Right now, you're in the in
between stage. I agree.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
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Speaker 1 (14:30):
We talked last hour about the messy effect on sports
here in the United States streaming. And then now you
get a lot of nervous people, Mike Harmon, because you know,
MESSI got hurt a few minutes ago, and now it's.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
He's okay, right, man?
Speaker 1 (14:48):
I feel like when when when that would happen to
de Gram and I would say, okay, I just got
to just keep putting out good fucks.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
De Gram's got to get better. Right, Everything's okay.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
The forearm tightness is nothing, the pinky injury is okay.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
Hey whatever, Oh, Messi's okay. Messi's okay, Messi's okay. He
was fine and played a ball and then the defender
did the you know, the stonewall just stand in his
way and down he went like a ton of bricks.
Did get popped in the mouth a little bit, so
they attended to him. Also got him a nice two
minute break. But where people are more anxious and perhaps
(15:21):
a little upset is in the fiftieth minute opportunity. As
his teammates set up a drive into the box. Joseph
Martinez made the drive and drew the penalty well normally
it's hey, Lionel Messi's gonna come and he's gonna hammer
home the penalty kick. No, no, no, no, no, not so fast,
(15:43):
as the broadcast said, quote, what leadership by Messi to
allow Martinez to take that penalty kick. Martinez drills the
penalty kick. Now Miami up two to one on Orlando.
But if you had bet on two or more goals
to be scored by the great Lionel Messi, you were
gonna return up plus two twenty five. Right now, that
(16:06):
is still dead action.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Orlando's gonna be getting a call from league officers tomorrow. Hey,
just so you know, he's the entire league, all right,
if people like to see him score, if we see
that again, if we sit, don't make me come down there.
I will come down you watch the hell I will
reek on all of you. Just let's remember who Messi
is and what's going on here. Okay, let's all get
(16:30):
on the same page. In fact, you know it, never mind,
We're gonna have a conference call tomorrow with every team
in the MLS and we're gonna talk about this and
see and make sure everybody's on the same page.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
Yeah, pretty scary, pretty crazy, you know. The uh, that
kind of sequencing when he doesn't strive to go take
the PK. Everybody's looking around, going line, what.
Speaker 4 (16:53):
Do we do?
Speaker 3 (16:54):
Martinez doesn't cut through. I mean, good player, longtime player,
and made the play and got rewarded for the drive
and drawing the penalty. I guess, but I mean, you know,
come on, now, come on, what's paying the bills? Here?
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Speaker 3 (17:32):
So today in.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
The NFL, we had a story that just is so
delicious and now you know, there's no question about this.
The quarterback under the most pressure this year in the NFL,
without a doubt, is Dak Prescott. Today at Cowboys camp,
there was a big time exchange between he and Trevon Diggs,
(17:54):
who told Dak Prescott to shut you know, blank blank
up in a big training camp exchange. Following a play
in which Dak Prescott ran for a touchdown. Escaping the
pass rush, he eluded a defender met in the end
zone by Diggs, dig starts yelling at him. Malik Hooker,
also a big veteran safety, had an exchange with Dak Prescott.
(18:15):
Not a lot was made public as to why this happened,
but nothing changes from what why just said? There is
no quarterback under more pressure this season than Dak Prescott.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
Now why right?
Speaker 1 (18:29):
First of all, let's go back to the playoff game
against San Francisco, in which he had a horrendous game.
The Niners had one touchdown, the Cowboys defense played phenomenal,
and yes, the Niners were absolutely loaded, but Dak Prescott
had a horrible game. Two first half turnovers that were awful.
The Cowboys never really threatened. Dak Prescott could not get
(18:52):
the team moving. And I told you after that happened,
I said, you just watch. Everything is now changed about
Dak Prescott. All of the love that Jerry Jones gave him,
and all the love his teammates have, and all the
love he's getting around the league. This game changes that.
Because this is a game the Cowboys should have won.
They should have moved on to the NFC Championship game.
Their defense played, everything was fine, right. Tony Pollard gets
(19:16):
knocked out of the game and he was a revelation
last year. He gets knocked out of the game at halftime. Okay, Dak,
this is what we're paying you all this money for,
and Dak Prescott could not deliver at all. Everything changed
for Dak in that moment. Now the pressure is there,
and Dak is a guy that's embraced and has loved
being a superstar. He has loved that he's getting paid
(19:37):
the big money. He loves that he's a big star.
But now everybody's gone from all in on him to
skeptically in because everybody wants more. After that game, he
has run out of chances. The fans want more, the
team wants more, the front office wants more. Notice how
talk is cool about Hey, we're gonna sign back to
(19:59):
an extension sometime. Everybody wants more. And he is under
the most pressure than any other quarterback to have a
big year this year because he has out of chances.
He has gone from feel good story and look how
good he is. They replace Romo and look at Dak
and the Cowboys in the national conversation, and they're making
the playoffs every couple of years or two out of
(20:20):
every three years, and that was great. But now that
game changed everything. And Dak who said, what week ago? Oh,
I want to make sure I cut my interceptions down
this year. Yeah that's great. How about you? You say, hey,
we got to win, We got a wagon to do
whatever it.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
Is to win. I would have cut my interceptions down
this year.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
Whatever is going on in Cowboys camp, they are not
happy with Dak Prescott. Some of his teammates are not happy.
These are veterans, these are guys, These are good players
who are saying, hey, Dak, you better blank blank blank
and blank blank blank and blank blank blank and whatever.
The short the story of this is, it doesn't matter
because the overarching story is we need more out of you,
(20:56):
and Dak Prescott has to know that at this point
or they're gonna be some big, big time repercussions after
the season.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
Yeah. I think it's it's a fun rivalry, right, the
defense getting the better of Prescott with some regularity, and
that's enough for cause concern. We saw that amongst a
number of camps coming out today, we heard the Broncos
talking about Russell Wilson and the offensive struggles in Bears camp.
(21:23):
It's just advance the year, Fields and company not having
a great day against a repurposed, repackaged Bears defense either.
And then you know with Prescott at this point, yeah,
it's they they want to see that level match because
for the the guys last year, they did everything they
could defensively right to give them a chance and their
(21:46):
best chance. And we talk about glory and how fleeting
those opportunities are when you play that well as a
unit that you need the others to match. So, yeah,
he's getting the heat internally. Externally it's it's the same
old questions in Jerry world, right, because everything gets magnified
to a larger degree. Some of it might just be
(22:07):
the all right, we've been here long enough that now
we hate each other again and we want to go
hit somebody else. So there's always some of that psychology
going on. But I would think that for Dak Prescott,
certainly from us in a national media perspective, it's the
all right, you've been good, you've been great at times.
Now you got to finish the job. Like when we
(22:28):
look at Kirk Cousins. Everybody loves him. He's all warm
and fuzzy coming out of the Quarterback Show on Netflix.
But doesn't mean that, you know, in primetime games and
come December, people aren't gonna have the poison pens right
back out for what he's done historically, Dak's just getting
it a little earlier than he normally does. Normally. It's
the love fest of Hey, the Cowboys are ready to
(22:49):
make another big run. Well, the divisions there and fighting you,
there's no weakness to any of it. Daniel Jones, as
much as folks can criticize him, look at all the
moves they made to bolster that receiving corps between Waller
and just going on down the line, between the draft
choice of Hyatt and so on. I mean, there's guys
(23:11):
that are gonna be an absolute pain for defenses to track.
So yeah, you look at those windows and you recognize
that they can close. And so for the Cowboys, all eyes,
all pressure. Everybody expects greatness out of Ceedee lamb oh,
and your number one running backs not in camp, so
you got that going for you too. We'll spend a
lot of time talking about douche Baughn because he's as
(23:34):
tall as I am. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
No, Look, and this is a case of if you
think that, well, what are you saying, Dak Prescott on
pressure this year? Never look at anybody's contract and say
they can't be moved. Never look at anybody's deal and
say this is impossible. Trade that can happen. We thought
it was impossible with Aaron Rodgers. What happened, the guy
got traded. Happened pretty easily, right, Know, look at the
(23:57):
dead cap, Look at this, Look at that. If Aaron
Rodgers can traded with the bad contract he had, anybody can, right.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
So stop with all this motivated buyers and sellers. But
the dead capture tactors. It's sixty two million after this,
it doesn't matter.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
It does not matter because it was a bigger dead
cab for rat And look what Rogers did. And now, hey,
I'll give back some of the money and I'll make
it back somehow over the court. At this point, money,
money doesn't matter. You can fix money any way, shape
or form. So don't look at Prescott's contract to go
(24:31):
oh forget it. If Prescott has a bad twenty twenty three,
you were gonna watch the Dallas Cowboys go can we
get better at quarterback? Is there a better guy out
there for us? And let's pursue and go get them
because we're paying Dak a lot of money and now
he's thirty one years old. And where are we we
need to if we are Dak Prescott driven? And this
(24:52):
is where we're at with Dak Prescott. No that we
can't be Dak Prescott driven anymore. The memory is still
there of Cooper Rush coming in and the team playing
in credible behind him. Not that Cooper Rush is a
great quarterback, but you saw, Hey, the Cowboys really galvanize
themselves around a backup quarterback last year and they won
a bunch of games. At some point, the Cowboys are
going to think we can do better at quarterback than
(25:13):
Dak Prescott. It's good a couple of great seasons that
he has, and Dak Prescott's a talented guy. Last again,
that game against the forty nine ers changed everything. He
lost all of the good will he had in all
the cachet and now it's you gotta come through now
a bad year and watch Dallas move on from him
in the offseason, and you're gonna see Dak Prescott's name
(25:34):
and in all kinds of trade talk and maybe he
needs to go here. He Dak needs to get away
from Dallas. And Dak would be a good quarterback if
he's out of the line light and all these stories
you're gonna get Watch the Cowboys because they're not gonna
go through a bad year with Dak and say, hey,
guess what, we're ready to sign up for another.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
Year of that. This is great man.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
Yeah, wait, no, no, no, this is That's why he
is under the most pressure this year than any other game.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
Jason, what do you got? Frostburg? Shut your ba up?
What are you worried about? That was really well done there, Frostburg.
I think one of the things that it goes back
to the uh. Will Stephen be able to uh, you know,
put Jerry in a closet or have him, you know,
at the dessert station when it comes time for those
discussions like he did in the draft room when they
(26:20):
wanted to take manzell uh because otherwise, you know, you
never say never. I mean, look at how long Jason
Garrett was running around those hallways. Look at Zeke Elliot's gone,
and Jerry Jones still keeps pining for his return.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
I haven't ruled it out yet. He's still out there.
I'm still say for Tony Dorset to come back. We
got we got lots of the good stuff going on
with Tony.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
We're pretty excited about it. So you got you got
all of that still swirling. So the one thing is Jerry.
Jerry's loyalty might be the one saving grace.
Speaker 4 (26:51):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
If Dak Prescott doesn't perform to a great level, he's due.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
I'll tell you, man, it is it really. I get
that that Jerry is is more loyal to his players
that he drafted. That he should be right because because
that's that's Jerry's thing, right, because he Jack was also
a bargain. Remember he made the Cowboys.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
He drafted Dak, right, he drafted Dak, he drafted Elliott.
When he drafts somebody, Hey, if I draft.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
You or I make a big move to trade for
you, you're one of my guys, and I gotta make sure
you succeed because if you look like you're succeeding, that
means I'm good at what I do and I don't
like being question about what I do. Jerry Jones does
not like that, so He's always had much more of
a I don't want to say a soft spot, but
the lack of of of great play and the the
(27:45):
the possibility of not having a player that he drafted.
It always works out in the player's behalf right. And
Ezekiel Elliott held out because he knew Jerry Jones wanted
to pay him. He knew Jerry Jones wants to pay
me because he drafted me, and it looks bad if
he lets me go.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
He's always had that with Dak Prescott, and Dak.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
Has had a long time man, he has had a
long time to try to win, and he's had some
big seasons and I'm not saying he hasn't. But in
the end, the Dallas Cowboys, this is a championship type team.
Every single season they go win. There is no rebuilding.
This is can we win the Super Bowl this year?
Speaker 3 (28:20):
Right?
Speaker 1 (28:20):
Some teams want to stay competitive, some teams want to
make money. The Cowboys, they want to win. That's the
one thing to say about Jerry Jones. He wants to win.
And all of that cachet is now gone for Dak Prescott.
So you think after this year it's still going to
be We love Dak and think Dak is good. No,
that's not happening after this year.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
This is well, we.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
Kind of lack the Rogers kid, but the Jets they're
paying a lot of money, but we lack the Wilson
fella behind him. He looks pretty good, got strong arm.
Maybe make a big deal for him and send a
couple of guys over that way. They will look into
another quarterback after this year, trust me, trust me.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
We have had a big last couple of days in
college football, the end of the Pac twelve sure now
the end of the ACC probably joining us now in
the hotline to break it all down. Nobody better the owner, editor,
proprietor Collegefootballnews dot Com. You can check him out. He's
(29:25):
got all the previews, all the info you need. Longtime
friend of the show, Pete Feutech. You can follow him
on Twitter at Pete Futech. No better college football insider
who is really sucking it up tonight as I'm counting
down to the Jets. Pete feutech is about nine hours
away from the beginning of Lollapalooza that he is ready
(29:47):
to attend.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
Pete, thank you for stopping by.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
Are you just gonna stay up all night until Lollapaloza
starts at ten o'clock tomorrow?
Speaker 4 (29:54):
No, See, here's my thing. I am old, so being old,
don't I'm not going to outlud. I go to the
after shows that have like the more and stuff, so
I can. So I go to the ones that have,
you know, I just the bands I want to see.
I'll see it, like the Metro and things like that. So,
(30:16):
but standing outside with a bunch of people who pretty
much a third of my age at this point, there's
no I'm too old for these bands that are out
right now except for Red Hot Chili Peppers is the
one band from my era. And that's about it.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
Is this show that you're not done, Pete.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
You're not going to see Landa del Ray like you're
going to see like the Lumineers in a in the
intimate setting.
Speaker 4 (30:37):
That's what you're doing, actually, the in the weird part. Yeah,
so I just saw it this very XMU breathy band
called Men. I trust I'm seeing Silvanetto on Sunday night,
and usually I would go see the DJs because that's
just the type of person I am. And my daughters
are seeing Lona del Ray and Billie Eilish, those are
the ones that they're into.
Speaker 3 (30:54):
Yes, Oh very nice. All right.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
So as you're getting ready for this, you're getting ready
for the intimates the craziness of college football the last
couple days, Let's start with the PAC twelve before you
get to the ACC. The Big ten says they want
to talk with Oregon, Washington, cal Stanford, but they want
to back off.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
They don't want to be seen as predatory. Yet too
late for that, Pete.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
With this news coming off the PAC twelve announcement yesterday
that they could have a streaming partner for games, that's
kind of been met.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
With a shrug.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
Is there any way the PAC twelve survives? I mean,
I just think it's a matter. It's dying right now,
and I don't know what the time of death is
going to be. But these schools are all going to
go to the Big ten and and the PAC twelve
is going to be the PAC eight, the PAC six
with a bunch of also ran schools, trying to make
it up.
Speaker 4 (31:41):
Well, here's the problem. I still think that there is
going to be a PAC twelve in some form because
what's getting lotched here is that there isn't exactly a
chair for everybody. So well, like this thought of all,
we're going to go to twenty teams, like the Big
twelve doesn't have money to do this. They can top
(32:02):
out about fourteen teams, so they can top up by
taking Arizona and let's say they're going to go Utah
doesn't seem to be interested, so maybe Arizona State, but
they would rather not do that. They're just going to
ghost Yukon, who do this whole thing, And they're saying, no,
we're going to take Yukon for basketball, and I'm we're
going to expand our quickprint. Now now they're going to
go for a couple more packed one teams, but they don't.
(32:25):
Their money isn't there. And with what's going to be
interesting about this whole process is will the money be
there five years from now? Because these deals are all
based on traditional network contracts, that says that one of
these big major you know networks is going to pay
all this money for these deals. But what's missing is
(32:48):
and this is where you know, I Joe gam Old
al blah blah blah. But we're we're missing as old
people is young people don't watch TV. They stream. So
the idea of like, yeah, of Apple being the main
partner for the PAC twelve, well you're talking to a
bunch of old college presidents and a bunch of old
athletic directors who don't get it that this is actually
(33:12):
probably the more progressively correct deal. But it's way too
hard of a cell when you're going to base your
athletic budget and your athlete department budget on subscription to
a streaming service. But if you think about this through,
it's Apple, it could be Nike, if Oregon's still a
part of it, it's the Beats brand, It's all the
(33:32):
different marketing arms that could make this thing really rock.
But it is way too out there for a bunch
of athletic directors who just want to take the money
and keep things going.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
Yeah, and when you look at the PAC twelve, they're
run by a guy whose main endorser was was Shill
and we see what a bangup job he's doing at Northwest. Yeah,
But continuing along the rights passage ACC deal. From everything
I've read, Pete, I kept checking the math, twenty thirty
six is what they're signed up through. So Florida State
(34:03):
has one big year of first ten win season in
quite some time, and all of a sudden they're trying
to flex. How does that end in the ACC? How
quickly do they splinter off?
Speaker 4 (34:13):
I don't think they do, because you're twenty thirty six.
There's a waffer. It's a cree I should notice off
the top of my head. But it's not just you know,
like getting a San Diego State where you say okay
with a thirty four million dollar extra fee if you're
leaving the ACC. It's kind of like you know, smashing
your rental car you're passing for you you have to
pay for like loss of use. You have to pay
(34:35):
for all the money you would have made for. It's
a really really bad deal for all the ACC teams
that are in there. And but that might not be
that much if somebody really wants Florida State. As I
keep saying, we're not talking about a ton of money here,
because justin Herbert's going to make ten to twenty million
dollars more per year over the next five years, and
(34:57):
Colorado's going to make off of this Big twelve deal.
I mean, it's in the sports business world. It's a
lot of money to normal people, but it's just not
that much. And the other part of this thing, too,
is who really desperately wants Florida State and why? Because
if you're the SEC, you've pretty much already dominated the
Florida market. Florida State doesn't exactly lift your overall brand
(35:21):
unless you can say, well, they're going to be worth
fifty million dollars extra a year in TV packaging. Big ten,
it doesn't. Florida State doesn't fit the Big ten. It
just especially you know, I'm not going to get political here,
but especially with what's happening kind of around that state,
and that's the flagship at the moment, that doesn't quite
fit what Big ten presidents are going to be into.
(35:44):
Even though the academic side of things is all there.
So I'm Florida State's certainly talking big, but they're all
talking big because they just want more money and I
think they're going to get that eventually from the ACC.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
But pet but here's here, let me do the flip
side of that. Now doesn't need to be the Big
Ten could be the SEC right if they because you're
talking about if Florida State leaves, and it's talking about leaving,
Miami's not staying, so they'll go, and Clemson's not staying,
so they'll go. You're talking about them, but where they're going.
Speaker 4 (36:12):
Who's got all this money? And that's I mean, they're
not getting a seventy million that the Big And that's
the thing about that's the hidden thing about all this
is like, let's say the Big ten really does get
Oregon and Washington. They're going to welcome them in at
discount prices. They're getting them at Rutgers and Maryland prices.
They're not giving them a full year, but it's still
(36:35):
a better deal for them. Like look at it. And
this is why why I don't think the PAC twelve
is going to go away, because again, when we're not
talking about that much money, Let's say the PAC twelve
loses like five or six. Let's say they lose Callen
Stanford and Oregon, Washington and Arizona and Arizona State. Well,
let's say they go go take a bunch of Mountain
West teams and let's say SMU and they figure something
(36:58):
out out well right now, Mountain West teams only make
like a lot four million dollars a year off their
media deal, so if you're often than twelve, that would
be more. So you don't have to offer necessarily a
full share to get some of the school to come across.
And there is a point again where we keep thinking
that there's all this money there from the TV networks,
(37:19):
but as we're seeing, if it's not sports, especially with
this strike and the actors strike and everything, sports is
pretty much the only thing left until these places they
are going to have to overpay to get sports because
that's the only sure thing programming that anybody's going to watch.
And then money might not be there because everyone under
the age of like people who watch baseball stream for
(37:41):
a stream, they don't know what a TV commercial is.
They don't watch them.
Speaker 3 (37:45):
New World Order, Apple and so many streaming services. Look,
those apps are all over you know, even you know,
my my parents in their mid seventies, I've taught them
how to use apps, and we if you bought a
TV in the last take years, it's there and just
staring in the face so that you can use it.
Speaker 4 (38:05):
As lost as you can use those depths on your
big TV I mean right exactly, which is what my
family does. So yeah, Netflix, Hulu, all that stuff. It's
all these streaming services. That's how people are. Nobody cares
that the game's on ESPN. Nobody cares where it is,
excepting really particularly like the announcers. But if you're into
the game, you're going to find a way to watch them.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
Pete Futech, who is listening to Night Ranger on cassette
according to his Twitter podcast right now the Jason Smith
Show with Mike Carmon Live the tirec dot Com Studios. Now,
the thing is, Pete, Florida State wants more money, but
they wouldn't talk about leaving if they didn't have some
kind of plan.
Speaker 3 (38:43):
Okay, if we do leave, what's it going to be?
Speaker 1 (38:45):
You can figure out the money, You're right, Whoever the
money needs to be, Florida State can figure it out.
They can go to court, they can say, well, instead
of that, how about we give you sixty million right now?
Or instead of getting tied up in all these things.
Is there any way that we are not going to
at some point have a three conference a three super
(39:07):
conference situation, whether it's the big ten that will become
the Big twenty, and the Big twelve, which will be
the Big sixteen, and the SEC. Because with all this,
once you see a conference that has some kind of
of vulnerability to it, it doesn't it doesn't make it
for the long term. That's why this is such a
horrible news day for the ACC because here's one of
the big, high profile schools that wants to go and
(39:29):
once you start seeing that that bit of weakness, it
doesn't suddenly get stronger and we get other schools coming
they want to come play in the ACC.
Speaker 4 (39:36):
Well, but first of all, what do you think we
have now? We have the Big two. We've had the
Big two for like thirty years. Yeah, it's you PEC
twelve and the Big twelve you know, had some nice
teams and nice moments, but when it comes to the
business in college sports, the Big ten dominates everybody, and
the SEC because it's the SEC and they've got their
(39:58):
world of football. It is the Big two and everyone else.
And remember this is not just about like on field performance,
it's about markets. And with the Big twelve, why they
are not going to be a part of this, you know,
higher end, they're not going to get you know, past
the bouncer into the you know, the swank lounge. They
don't have the markets. Where's their TV markets? It might
(40:20):
be they have Dallas, but they have their like second
tier when you got TCU and Baylor compared to Texas
in the Dallas Fort Worth area. You know, they kind
of have Houston now at the University of Houston. That's
second tier compared to you know, the love and affection
for Texas, A and M and UT it's in Houston.
So compared to like the Big ten who are now
(40:42):
has you know, the LA market. They've got whatever New
York market you can claim, they got Chicago for the
most part, they've got TV markets. The SEC doesn't really
have TV markets, but they own obviously the southeast part
of the country. So again, what does Florida State do
for you business wise? Because it's not going to really
crank up a new marketer or footprint for the SEC,
(41:04):
which is I keep saying the SEC should be all
over Oregon, in Washington. They should look at what the
Big ten is doing, go coast to coast. This is
business time. You need a bigger, larger area to go after.
The Big ten is going to just dominate from coast
to coast, and the SEC is not going to be
(41:24):
able to necessarily keep up business wise, the big cost
certainly once so again, this is nice if Florida State
wants more money, but who's going to necessarily bend over
backwards to get them? North Carolina that's the layale, That's
the one that everyone wants, because remember the Big Ten
likes the University of insert state name here. They don't
(41:45):
go after you know, schools with the word state in them.
They go after the University of Maryland, the University of Nebraska,
you know, North Carolina. They want the big giant schools.
That is the market that extends everything for the SEC
or the Big can and that would be the bidding
war even more than Florida State.
Speaker 3 (42:06):
Yeah, the hard part for me, Pete is going forward,
say next year, the year following. None of the histories
of any of these conference play really matter anymore because
everybody's jumbled up.
Speaker 4 (42:17):
Yeah. Well, remember when I first started this twenty five
years this whole cfent thing twenty five years ago. Oh
my god, what college football is over? There's no Southwest
Conference anymore? Like oh the tradition, Oh dear God, And
look at this look at this big twelve that they're
for going to form. It's awful. It's you know, all
the power teams like Kansas State and Colorado are up
(42:40):
in the north and Nebraska and the south with Texas
and Oklahoma. It's just a weaklings. These things change. And
again going with the youth movement here, young people don't care.
They don't know who Tim Tebow is. You think anybody
cares about like you know, the old school Oklahoma Nebraska
rivalries or worth in Miami. No, they just want to
(43:02):
know what they can go on their phone and bet.
Speaker 3 (43:06):
Are you talking about the state of Iowa, Pete? Is
that all you're doing there?
Speaker 4 (43:11):
You get Hunter Deckers out of my mouth? No, Iowa
not but Pete.
Speaker 1 (43:16):
Lastly, look what's your takeaway of that situation with the
look the Iowa betting sting, unearthing that Iowa States quarterback
and Iowa's kicker gambling on sports, Like I look at
this and go if this doesn't tell you how widespread
an issue this is. Because this is just Iowa that
we found out, this is going on everywhere. This is
going to be a bigger and bigger story as time
(43:36):
goes on.
Speaker 4 (43:37):
It is one hundred times bigger than the realignment story.
Everybody bet. Everybody has a wager on something. Either they
have a bracket during March Madness, either they're playing. And
here's the thing that no one likes to talk about.
Fantasy football is a prop bet. That's all it is.
And if you're an NFL player playing fantasy football for
(43:58):
money and anyway, you are gambling on the NFL and
prop bets, college kids, all of them. Everybody has it
on their phone. Everybody is betting on sports. And so
either you figure out how to harness that and work
within the system, or else you just it's going to
be hard because you're not gonna be able to police it.
(44:19):
That's the biggest part. Forget nil, forget all the stuff
at Congress. That's the biggest threat to sports. In whatever
vague level you want to look at.
Speaker 1 (44:30):
You can follow on Twitter at Pete Feutech that is
at Pete few Tech. Say I know, at Lollapalooza or sorry,
at the after party, No, I know. Look at all
the small venues around town, and that's the best small venues.
Will He will interrupt watching the Lumineers to give you
his take on anything.
Speaker 3 (44:48):
College football.
Speaker 1 (44:49):
This is Pete's actual cassette playing right now, letting you
know Pete is always buddy, appreciating my friend.
Speaker 3 (44:55):
Enjoy the concert.
Speaker 4 (44:56):
We'll talk to you so, I actually will. I will
actually talk college football to take him break from from
watching concerts anytime.
Speaker 3 (45:02):
Yeah, my guy. Happy New Year, buddy. Yeah, listen, that's
it's it's a night Ranger on cassette.
Speaker 2 (45:10):
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