June 7, 2024 • 50 mins
Jason’s old enough to remember saying on the show (last night) that he didn’t think Kristaps Porzingis would be healthy enough to make a difference. LA Times Lakers Beat Writer Dan Woike joins the show for all the latest details on the Lakers "relentless" targeting of Dan Hurley as the team's next HC. Plus a visit from the GREAT Ric Bucher!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 1 (00:33):
He's both tonight greetings and welcome inside. I'm honestly fine.
He'll join you in a trance to Jason Smith Show
with my best friend Mike Harmon live from the Ti
rag dot com studios, where, Yes, it is a night
that so far belongs to a guy who just checked
back into the game for the Celtics after an unbelievable
(00:57):
first half. And I'm old enough to remember last night
on the show and I said, you know, harm Ah
porzingis Is. He's the X factor of the series, which
we hit it right on the head all more, he's
the guy. If Porzingis can give them close to what
he gave him during the season, the Mavericks won't have
a chance to win. But boy, it's gonna be hard
for me to see that Porzingis is actually gonna be
(01:19):
able to go nuts and be that guy. He hasn't
played for so long, eight days, doesn't sound like he's healthy.
He doesn't know what he can do. The Celtics don't
know what he can do. And thirteen minutes in the
first half tonight, Chris tops Porzingis eighteen points on seven
of nine shooting as the Celtics jumped out to a
twenty one point halftime lead. The lead has since been
(01:40):
cut to fourteen, but still the story of the game
tonight right now is Chris Tobs Porzingis and is eighteen
point first half off the bench.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
She was absurd pulling up from thirty at a couple
of block shots. So you know, the spring in the
step in the defensive end also there, which we talked
about a bunch, you know, when we talk about the
four to five front line of what Dallas was bringing
to the table. And and even with Jason Tatum having
a three of eight night, to me, he's still plus
eighteen but eight six, four and five turnovers that matter,
(02:15):
still nursing a nice, beautiful fourteen point ly.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Look, and I didn't know how I was gonna feel,
right what I told you last night? Yeah, how am
I gonna feel for poors? Logically? What I tell you
your home was that it was a plus y plus
minus of zero. Yeah. No, but look when I saw
him come in and start hitting shots. This is how
(02:41):
I thought. I didn't know it because you never know what.
I'm just gonna get one of those now. No, I
want the guy to lose. I want him to lose, now,
come on, couldn't do it for the next he wanted
out of the knick, so bn I woand out him
and his brother going into the office and say we
can't be here. We gotta go someplace house gonna No,
that'll build him to close out Gabe maybe. But when
he came in and started hitting shots, I was like,
of course, Porzengis and I was fine with it.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
No, but you're fine now because it's only game one. No,
it's taking bills.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Mike is not fine. Trust trust me. I am fine, fine,
I can You're far from fine. Porzingis is three teams ago.
He's lucky he was even in the league. Right, it
was that was three It hurts the Mavericks more you
kidding look at that recently. Your eyes are bugging out, man.
In order of who's most upset, No, no, to the Knicks.
(03:28):
I mean the Wizards don't care because they're the Wizards.
But but look, the Knicks. This is worse for the
map about the Knicks, the Maverick him. Yeah, that's what
I mean. But that's the personal between you and Porzingis.
That's right, Yes, because he and I I loaned the
money a long time. You feel like you perpetrated a
fraud against you. He was look, Porzingis was young, he
was immature. He wasn't ready for the spotlight, wasn't ready
(03:50):
to handle the success that the New York Knicks wanted
to give him, that were ready to hand him everything. No, no, no, no, no,
I want out. Okay, you're out. And now I like
where we're at. I like the guys have his stars.
Porzingis as someone still, you can't count on him to
how a mavery when he's going to be in the
game and when he's not. So yeah, I'm okay with it.
If he plays well, great, I really am. Okay. I
(04:11):
tell you if I was it because I tell you,
I can't believe this guy. Oh, look at Dallas's cutting
back in the lead. Yeah yeah, Porzingi's blank, you man, No,
I did just cut the lead to eleven. You're not
completely lying, No.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
I am.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
I am absolutely fine with Porzingis playing. It's been a
great story. I trust me. I again, it's been a
long time. Just well, but here's looking at your face
when it's not like we were great with him. You know,
it's not like listen, I hurt myself. Listen today. Don't
make me pull up the big guns early in the show. Okay,
don't we pull up the big guns early, all right?
(04:47):
Because I will. I can't say Doc Rivers no, no,
no no no no no no no, no, no no no.
I got I got a better one for you than that.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
Anybody else an insider that has a tie directly to someone.
We got one guy it gets paid by a sports book.
We got the other guy that literally wrote a book
about the guy's family.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
So what are we doing here? Look, I am, I
am okay with poor Zingis playing. Well, it's fun. It's
a fun story. It's fun. Look, I remember I like
claim to Porzingis for a while, and he's been gone
for so long. Man, but he was your first love.
He's the guy in the beginning of the movie when
the when the when the heroes all set out on
the adventure and they say goodbye and they said, all right,
(05:25):
we'll see you, and then he shows up like for
some random part near the very end, going hey man,
I'm back. You know he is. He's a BIG's dark
lighter from uh uh from Star Wars Big like yeah,
Bigs in the very beginning, Hey I'm leaving, Okay, I'll
see you only assault the dut star and then you know,
poor Biggs, but that's kind of what it is. He's like, hey,
all right, but you forget about him for soul. He's
(05:45):
been going for so long, man, he's been going for
so long. The Mavericks hate it more because they actually
meant a lot to go get him, to pair him
with Luca, and that didn't work. It hurts them more
than it hurts the truth behind that.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
I mean, Luca tried to dismiss it and then he
just took Porzingis his money on a on a possession
and you could see the exasperation, like he wanted to
go and just hammer it. So it's a fun theater,
No question about it. But I think we'll monitor this
situation and your blood pressure as the series goes on,
because as we get towards games five, six, and seven,
(06:19):
when it's winning time. Now what porzingis is still putting
up numbers, You're going to be exasperated.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
And you're a science Mike, I tell you, I tell you,
I'm fine. I'll tell you. It was fun watching the
first girl.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
You gave a hack thinking it was gonna last forever,
and then she went away, and then she popped up
on your Facebook page later.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
Here's the thing I have learned over the course of
my life. That's certain battles you have to just let
go certain things you have to let go. You don't
forget about him entirely, but you have to can't let
him be front of mine and you're this frontal temporal
lobe or the mid temporal lobe. You got to put
him in the back, the back posterior temporal lobe. I
think that's a part. But god, uh, you gotta you
(07:02):
gotta let stuff go right. And there's certain things that yeah, okay,
there's certain sports things that are still front of mine
that pissed me off that I still I don't know
if I'll ever get over that nem hard miracle three,
but you want to hear it. No, not at all,
not at all.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
He might need that memory refreshed now, kind of like
inside out too.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna get over that memory.
I'm not gonna. I'm not great potter. I'm not gonna
get over that. Not gonna get a couple of things
with the Jets. Still, Uh, not gonna get over Hackenberg. No, No,
hecks not gonna get over uh familiar, giving up the
Big Home Running game, one of the World Series. Certain things, Uh, Diaz,
there's too many. I can't even there's only so much
(07:39):
ram in my head. But this this poor Zingi thing,
it's so long ago. Now again three now it's fresh,
it's three fresh ago. That bandage it was, you thought
it was healed. Let's let's know, it's that once against
listen it was it was. You know, this is five
years ago at this point. Right. Let's say your dating
(08:00):
someone and you think it's gonna be great. One of
those relationships where hey, you think it's gonna be great
right away. You there's that spark between the two of
you and it feels like, hey, this could go so
like a movie.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
Yeah, nice kind of Yeah, when you're you're at the
par happy song, which you're at the park and you
buy ice cream and you have, you know, put a
little ice cream on her nose, and she wipes your
face with the ice cream, you know, kind of like
a free guy.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
Right, that's how it goes, right, watching that yesterday, Yeah,
and you get a nice fun song on there, you
get Walking on Sunshine by Katrina and the Waves, and
everything is great. But after a short amount of time,
not very long, after a short amount of time, she says, hey,
not working. She goes into your office, talks to your
GM and says hey. She comes in with her sister
(08:42):
and says, hey, we want out. We want out. Okay,
you want out, you want out, We'll get you out.
And so then you break up.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Now you got lannigans, I'm not the loving kind of
playing in the background.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Can you break up? And she goes to somebody else.
You think, oh boy, wow, this guy, this guy. But
I mean, I like to think I'm as good looking
as this guy. But maybe he's a better looking. Maybe
he's got a better job than I do. Maybe's a
little bit more, but that doesn't work out, and all
of a sudden, then you know, they break up and
it's like, oh wow, I thought that was gonna work.
She can trying to rub my nose in okay, And
then she starts dating this guy. You're like, what is that?
(09:13):
She's dating that guy? I mean when he was wizards, Like,
that's the guys you're dating? Oh my good, Yeah, you
know what, I have won this. I've moved on because
then you start dating somebody who you suddenly go, hey,
you know, wait a minute. Maybe she's not as flashy
as everybody else, but boy, she finds a way to
score forty forty five points in a game. Doesn't matter.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
You know.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Maybe maybe she's not very tall, but doesn't matter. Still
finds a way hit those threes. Be a leader. You know.
Maybe she went to Villanova and you media met her
at a mixer after school or something, and sey, hey,
you've moved on. But then after this Edmond was on great,
and then you see that, hey, she's dating somebody else
now and she left that other dude and now she's
with the fourth boyfriend and now he's okay, hey, oh
(09:55):
he's more stable. He has a good job. Maybe he
works in sales. Maybe he someone. They have a nice house.
They live in the suburbs. They have a pool in
the backyard. They have two kids. Hey, you've moved on. Okay,
that's that. That's good and you feel happy. That's not
at all. But you get the unicorn.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
Yeah, that was too long though, that's all right, like
when you put that in front of it. But I
wanted to tell you how long it was, but I
had to go through the three it's been three teams, Harmon,
it's been that. It's been a wizard.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
No, he was a unit, your guy. It doesn't matter
how many stops in between. Years ago, no, six years ago,
We've been here for all of it. He's that. That's
that poor zingis thing has been playing. We've been playing
for like ten years now. I'm on man, and this
is the first time he's good. You guys got well,
(10:48):
it's the first time he's been playing and healthy at
a time when his team needs him. Let's just say that,
that's what it is. See that's where we get the
Randy Van Warmer in the movie. But I needed to
be able to show you, Hey, it's been a long time,
t Ja, it's been a long time since I did
this stroll. It's been a long time. You're talking about
three three other boyfriends. And I said, oh, now, okay,
(11:09):
that's great. You know what, Hey, I'm happy. I'm happy
that you're happy. This is all wonderful for all of us. Now,
it's okay, it's all right. I don't sit back and think, oh,
we could have been together, we could have done that,
we could have done all the time. No, it's it's
fine that you wish he was dunking like that. He
just had a big dunk. Porzingis followed up a missed
(11:29):
three with a dunk, and it's an eleven point lead
now for Boston from them. But look like I'm saying,
it's okay. If Porzingis scores thirty tonight and they win
and suddenly they're asking him questions, he's gonna say, he's
gonna say all the right things. Hey, I'm great here, boy,
I really blew it in New York. That was the
whole thing, because he said that before. And I need
to act a little bit differently and do things a
little bit differently, and approach things differently. He said that.
(11:51):
I mean, I am I am fine. I told you.
I was fine with the Knicks losing the Pacers because
of the way I have. Anybody left, they would have
got smoked by the Celtics. Anyway, I'm fine with Porzingis
here and I'm not going to see there and go.
It's like the Knicks and the Files. No, it's Porzingis again,
long time removed from the Knicks, long time removed. I'm
good now it doesn't. You'd be the worst. You would
(12:15):
be the absolute worst uh uh doctor ever? Like if
I was sitting on your couch saying, you know, Doc,
I feel pretty good. I'm over this, I'm over this loss,
and I feel like I want to vollow in my life. Nah,
it still kills you, now, Doc, I was feeling a
really good frame of mind when I committed today sit
on your couch. Yeah, but it still hurts. This still
burns you has a little bit. Admit, well, it takes
(12:35):
a tiny bit of it. But Doc, I said I
was feeling good coming in here. No, no, no, I
know you're not really feeling good. Our sessions overpay on
the way out, billable hours. Baby here.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
If I cure you, I don't get the next session again.
Worst doctor ever? Wor oh I have the best bedside manner.
How you feeling today, I'm feeling pretty good. We'll see
about it.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Looking like a little bit tired, but something vaccine, Well,
see about that. Sixty minutes on the couch here, We'll
see what we can fix right there now. It was
an eight point lead for the Celtics a couple moments ago,
as the Mavericks with a fierce rudded cut it to
eight a Luka Doncic three. The lead has now been
pushed out to thirteen Porzingis's big dunk instigating a little
(13:20):
mini run here by the Celtics. So it's a thirteen
point lead Boston over Dallas with about two minutes to
go Game one in the third quarter. I'm fine. I
think I've illustrated that I'm fine. And you're the worst
doctor in the world. And thankfully he think you does
protest too much. Belly, you are not You are not
doing that for a living in You're here with me,
thank you.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
That's my next that's my next act. Are you kidding?
I'm going back to school, doctor.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
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(14:06):
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(15:35):
had cut the Celtics lead to eight, and then enter Porzingis,
who misses a three but rebounds his own three with
a jam. The Celtics go on a run and close
the third quarter within eighty six sixty six lead over Dallas.
So after all of that, the Mavericks cut one point
off the Celtics lead. The Celtics going to quarter number
(15:58):
four with a twenty point lead eighty six to sixty six,
and Chris tops Porzingis has twenty points off the bench
of the Celtics. Yay, he does. Maybe the only story
more shocking than that. Well, also, doctor Pepper is now
out selling pepsi. The only other more shocking story than
this is that now the Lakers are planning to offer
their head coaching job to Danny Hurley of Yukon, a
(16:21):
shocking development to say the least. And joining us now,
the guy who has been on the inside of this
story all day, Lakers insider LA Times insider Dan Wiki
has a bit latest update everything happening right now with
Danny Hurley and the Lakers. These discussions are set to
accelerate over the course the next few days, and Dan,
(16:43):
I think the best place to begin is right here.
How the hell did this happen?
Speaker 6 (16:49):
It's a good question. It is very rarely did you
get the sort of like piece of news that feels
like a two by afford of the face like normally
their hints, right, And I guess maybe look in hindsight,
maybe they were some hints. So I think the best
(17:10):
way to kind of just so is that I can
try to let people know, like what I was hearing
and what I've been hearing basically since the Lakers fired
Darmenham and as I was hearing two very distinct things
from two very different groups of two very different sizes.
I was hearing JJ Redick was done. JJ Redick is
going to be the head coach. It's an eventuality, it's
(17:34):
his job from a lot of people, a lot of people,
but never from the people directly involved in the search, right,
because that's a small group. I mean, it's rock Point
and GINI bus right. I don't think that's like I'm
not speaking out of turn, like like that is who
is going to hire the next Lakers coach?
Speaker 7 (17:53):
Of those two people, they did not say JJ Redick. Ever,
the other thing I was hearing was that.
Speaker 6 (18:00):
You know, we are invested in this process. You know,
internally we're moving slowly. You know, I think I can
say this was the message that Rob Plinkett delivered to
some people within the staff that you know, don't believe
everything you're hearing. You know, the word noise was used
(18:20):
at times. And look, I think, you know, looking back
at some the stories I've written over the past couple weeks,
like there were things there were like bread crumbs in it, right,
Like you know, Tuesday, when it was reported that the
Lakers had dared in I Reddick, you know, I was
able to kind of suss out that you know, not
(18:42):
only were the Lakers quoting no Rush, but that also
you know Reddick hadn't talked contract numbers.
Speaker 7 (18:47):
At all with the Lakers. You know, James.
Speaker 6 (18:51):
Barrego had this like pretty wide in person interview, and
that wasn't a process that JJ went through necessarily, Like
they felt like there were like different things happening at
different times. And uh, after after recovering this morning and
being able to kind of confirm what Adrian Olsh and
(19:13):
Arrowski reported pretty quickly after that process, like you started
to shake off the Cobbobs and you're like, oh okay,
like it started to makes sense to be why they
moved in the shadows the way they did a little
bit more. I mean, can I expand on this?
Speaker 7 (19:28):
I know I'm rambling the.
Speaker 6 (19:30):
The reason why that too is like, look, if you're
gonna go after Danny Hurley, right, if you're going to
big game hunt in that fashion, one, you don't I
don't think if you're the Lakers, you want matt Istrie
to get a whip of it early on, right, because
like matt Istue is like crazy enough to give that
your twenty million dollars, right or something like that. So
like like you you you, So that's like definitely like
(19:53):
you want to like, all.
Speaker 7 (19:54):
Right, you're gonna wait that out right.
Speaker 6 (19:57):
And I think the second part of it is is,
like I was talking to someone it in like the
analogy we ended up coming up with it like if
you're going to tell, like, you know what you think
is the prettiest girl in school that you love her,
like you want to have a pretty good idea that
she's going.
Speaker 7 (20:10):
To say it back.
Speaker 6 (20:12):
And I think there's an element of that in this too, right,
that like you you can let this kind of leak
out now that it's like you you think maybe she'll
say it back.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
So what you're saying is the Lakers organization is not
the pretty girl it once was.
Speaker 6 (20:30):
I think Danny Hurley in this case is a pretty girl.
Speaker 7 (20:34):
The Lakers are the.
Speaker 6 (20:37):
Maybe Danny Hurley is like the Rachel Lee Cook in
this situation, and that would make the Lakers the Freddy
Prince Junior.
Speaker 8 (20:42):
Okay, is there any The main thing is is there
any chance this ends up like the end of Carrie,
because that would oh really, it could end up that
bad Telekinesis kills everybody and they go get your volta
in the car Okay.
Speaker 6 (20:55):
How soon do you forget two coaching searches?
Speaker 7 (20:59):
Ago? Two?
Speaker 6 (21:01):
Don't mean that long ago. That's that the Lakers were
at the doorstep with Tyron Lou only to them be
at the doorstep with Monney Williams, only to them to
hire Frank Vogel.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
How about how about that?
Speaker 2 (21:14):
Damn?
Speaker 6 (21:14):
Now, I'd like to think, I'd like to think they've
learned from their mistakes. But yeah, of course, I mean,
this isn't over. It's not gonna be over until you know,
Danny Hurley doesn't live in Connecticut anymore.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
To that end, there was there was a report that
was circulated a little bit earlier that suddenly the Pistons
are reevaluating everything and Monty Williams may suddenly become available again.
Well he tied to any insider like these other guys.
Speaker 6 (21:42):
No, So the Monney Williams thing again, like it's funny,
Like the Montey Williams thing again was like something that
like kind of you heard whispers of, you know, in
Chicago during the combine, and it just was like at
one point somebody floated to me like kind of like
you know, like what if the uh, you know, what
if the Pistons said half the salary. Would the Lakers
be interested then? You know, but I but I think,
(22:05):
like I really think that it was. I mean, it
certainly seems at this point that this was a small
field race, right, and that pretty pretty early on, the
Lakers decided that Danny Hurley was the guy. And I think,
you know, I think they hold the Dio Redicks still
(22:26):
in pretty highest team. I think I don't want to
say he's the plan B, but you know, it certainly
seems like Danny Early's the plan A.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
Well, here's the thing though, now, Dan is they've gone
so far now, even though it seems like it's early,
they've gone so far down the line where the Lakers
are very open with this is our number one guy,
this is who we want, and certain teams can't be
told no, because it's unbelievably embarrassing. Now to get back
from Danny Hurley that he's already talked to his team
at yukonme had practiced like he said, Hey, listen, yes
(22:58):
I'm talking to the Lakers, but it's business as usual.
Tells me this is going to happen, right, There's it's
not like, yeah, we want Danny Hurley and there's nothing
out of stores, you know, and say, yeah, I talk
to the Lakers, Okay. So the fact that that it's
this public tells me that this is going to happen,
and this would be an unbelievable disaster for the Lakers
if it doesn't.
Speaker 6 (23:16):
Yeah, So I think, Look, if I was a Lakers fan,
I'm not.
Speaker 7 (23:20):
That's not my job.
Speaker 6 (23:21):
If I were a Lakers fan, though, I mean I
would brace in some fashion, possibly for the worst, because
like there is a long tradition of coaches in Danny
Hurley's position, like towing the NBA waters only to decide
that life is sort of a college demagogue is more
more like it's just the more appealing life, you know.
(23:42):
I think what's different with Danny Hurley is that he's
like been pretty transparent about the parts of that demagoguery
lifestyle that wear him out.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
You know.
Speaker 6 (23:52):
I mean, I think I saw it. I have not
been following it Danny Hurley's social media posts throughout the
past couple of years, so I don't know if this
was totally in jazz. I mean, it seemed pretty funny
to me. Uh, there was a post that was him
on the first day of the portal and it's just
him laying on the ground in the fetal position.
Speaker 7 (24:10):
You know, what is that?
Speaker 3 (24:10):
But is that the point where we're at with all
this Dan that he becomes the latest of all right,
I'm done with all of the nonsense. I got to
get through to get to coach a team.
Speaker 6 (24:19):
I mean, maybe, like I will say it did it
did strike me today that it would be strange to
be like preparing this like gigantic offer to somebody and
you're doing it in part because they'd like to see
their life get easier. Like that is weird, right, And
I don't really think that's what's happening, Like it's just
different mostly you know. But but look, I mean we
(24:44):
can there's a ton to talk about here. I mean
I think another thing another part of this is like, okay,
so like it reads right on paper bill plashky uh.
Sometimes colleague, here of your guys like absolutely was like,
oh this is traffic, Like that's you know, like all excited,
flash key, you know about the hire, and then it's
(25:04):
sort of like, okay, well let's talk about the guys
who've made this transition.
Speaker 7 (25:09):
And then.
Speaker 6 (25:11):
You start to ask around and be like well, why
has no one been able to do it? And the
reasons are all pretty good?
Speaker 1 (25:19):
Wow, look at Dan Waki, yeah right right now the Lakers, okay,
restrict his accent, A great coach for Bronnie, restrict accent.
Speaker 7 (25:32):
I am.
Speaker 6 (25:32):
I'm withholding my judgment on any Bronnie development plan the
coach hiring. But but but like honestly though, like right,
like like what does success even look like for a
college coach jumping to the pros. I think I saw
a stat I tweeted at one point that there's been
four coaches ever who have coached in the Final four
(25:54):
and the NBA Finals and and and it's only one is.
Speaker 7 (25:59):
One and is Larry Brown.
Speaker 6 (26:02):
Yeah, and like like otherwise.
Speaker 7 (26:04):
It's like, I mean, we're talking.
Speaker 6 (26:06):
Van Brendakoff from like the sixtiesn Shue or Schefs I
should not have perhaps the Dame the Lakers cooked before him,
and doctor Jack Ramsey those are the four. Like, so
you know, you look at it and say, like you
might look at someone like Billy Donovan, who's like, I'm
pretty good doppelganger right in terms of what he was
able to do with Florida and stuff, and say, well,
like he has been a failure in the pros like
(26:27):
put domins on six percent of his games. He's been
employed and will continue to be employed.
Speaker 7 (26:34):
But I mean, I.
Speaker 6 (26:35):
Don't think the Lakers believe today that if they do this,
they're getting Billy Donovan. I think their their their sites
are higher.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
Well I look at it this way, Dan, because I say, Okay,
this is not just a hire for now. Yes, you're
hiring from now because other than if you hire JJ Reddick,
you hire Barego. I mean, are you really just hiring
the same guys? Is Look, are Lebron and ad really
going to listen to these guys? This is what it
really shows me that wait a minute, the Lakers may
have a vision for that that goes way before Rehetick does.
Speaker 6 (27:06):
See I think Reddick does that too.
Speaker 7 (27:08):
I mean, like honestly, like.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
I mean, do a podcast together, come on, no, but
but hold on, but hold on, Like I'll say, like
two things on that front.
Speaker 7 (27:16):
One, I mean, it makes it's hilarious. I don't get
me wrong, it's hilarious.
Speaker 6 (27:22):
But but but I think like this notion that like
JJ is like riding you know, like on the banana
boat with Carmelo and Chris Paul and Dwayne Wade is
just not true, Like this is a moderately new relationship
all things considered, right, Like I don't know that they
had even met really like really like socially had met
(27:44):
before this podcast. And then I think, like, and then
I think the other part of this is like Lebron
has like really removed himself from these proceedings. This is
not it is about Lebron in so much as the
Lakers think that Lebron James is going to be on
their team next year and that is important to them,
and that is the power that Lebron is able to
wield at this point, like just like the walk into
(28:06):
the room type of power. He's not telling them to
hire anyone. I haven't heard anything even close to.
Speaker 7 (28:15):
That from anyone in this process.
Speaker 6 (28:17):
And so I think, like, you know, in terms of
like like the easy way out, and this is going
to sound like really disparaging, and I really don't mean
it to be disparaging. Like the easy way out if
you're talking about like just do it for Lebron and
like figure it out, is like you hire somebody like
Terry Stotts, you know, who's like a good you would
have hired my Putinenholder when he's available. You hire a
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guy who's like ready made.
Speaker 7 (28:41):
Day one is.
Speaker 6 (28:44):
Track record of success in the NBA as a coach.
This is kind of what's funny, is like, that's not
Dan Hurley and that's not JJ Reddick. Actually it's kind
of the same. Like neither of them really have that
track record. I mean, in fact, neither of them do
have that track record. I would wager to say that
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probably JJ Reddick on day one is like has a
deeper library of NBA knowledge than Dan Hurley does, just
based on their professions. Like you, Dan early is pretty
busy a lot during the NBA season this year, and
JJ Redick was being paid to call games and to
talk about them on one of the nineteen podcasts.
Speaker 7 (29:26):
So like that, it's it is.
Speaker 6 (29:30):
It's an interesting pivot in the sense that the name
is different. I think, like once sort of that wears
off some of the questions like are kind of the
same to me? And they are both though, and they
are both. Some of the strengths in terms of like
we are doing this to build a program are also
I think similar, which is kind of why if those
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are the two guys that you believe are at one
and two in the peck mortar. I think that's probably
why those are the two that are at the top.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
He's on Twitter at dan wiki Sport. That is at
dan woiki Sports, La Times, Lakers Insider and a man
who began today with a two by four to the
face with news of Danny Hurley and the Lakers. Dan
is always buddy appreciated, my friend. We'll talk to you
as this search unfolds.
Speaker 6 (30:15):
Sounds good, guys. Hopefully Hackshad Jim Duggant doesn't come by
and again in the morning.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
What do you think about that? Tough guy? See you
great stuff from Dan Weik. We'll have much more on
this story coming up, because look this. To me, this
shows so much maturity and good decision making by the Lakers.
It's surprising. It's the Lakers. The Jason Smith Show with
my best friend Mike Carmon live from the tire Rag
dot Com Studios coming up next. Boy, I'll tell you,
(30:41):
we really have to break down Danny Hurley to the Lakers.
This bombshell that looks like it's going to happen. It
makes too much sense, and it shows great maturity and
forward thinking by the Lakers.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
Which makes me, what did you say, something's going to
go run something else something, It.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
Doesn't make sense. It's the Lake. We'll get to that
coming up next right here, Jason and Mike. Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
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Speaker 1 (31:12):
Sports Radio The Jason Smith Show with my best friend
Mike Harmon. The the Celtics putting the finishing touches on
Game one victory over the Dallas Mavericks. It's one oh
five eighty two with just under two minutes left to
go in the game. Starters are out of the game now.
(31:33):
This is all but been decided for most of the
fourth quarter. We'll have more on this game coming up
in a few minutes. In addition to I will say
this before you get into the Lakers. The Celtics of
course honoring Bill Walton, who passed away last week, one
of their former stars. And I'll tell you those black
warmups with just that are solid black with the Walton
and the rainbow and the day glow, that looks fantastic.
(31:54):
It's a good look. That's a really sweet pullover. Man
The video they did before the game was beautiful. Yeah,
talk about the luckiest guy in the world is a
lot of his catchphrases. But yeah, you're you're talking about style. Uh,
that's one of those.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
We'll be looking to see if any merchant goes up
with that. Those are pretty sweet. That's one of those
that that's such a clean look and it's such a
great way to your remembering him with his name and
the colors, it just looks so great. Uh. Now, thanks
to Dan Wiki for stopping by a few minutes ago.
Lakers Insider with the La Times dot Com. Uh. Look
the two stories tonight game one of the NBA Finals,
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and the Lakers are moving towards hiring Yukon's Danny Hurley
as their new head coach. And this, to me, this
is shocking, not because all of a sudden we're hearing
Danny Hurley's name, but this is a move from the
Lakers that shows foresight. It shows that we're thinking about
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more than just throwing something out there and hoping it sticks,
which is what they've done with the last couple of
coaches they've hired. This is let's go out and let's
get somebody who we know can come in and be
someone that can grow the brand and grow the team.
Because hearing JJ Reddick, which said, hey, he's brought Lebron
the podcast with Lebron, he's never coached before. Yeah, maybe
that'll work. Yeah, we like James Barrego, maybe he'll work.
(33:11):
This is where I feel like somebody really influential, And
maybe it was Genie, maybe was Rob Polinka, but somebody
stood up in that room and said, hey, uh, let's
let let's not settle, let's swing for the fences here.
Who do we want if we could have anybody, and
I'm sure Danny Hurley's name came up and said let's
go see if we can get Danny Hurley. Like somehow
(33:32):
that cut through the clutter that, hey, we should be
going after the best guy we can get. And you
can only go after who's out there, right, So I CA,
you only go after who's out there. You can't go
get TIBs, right, he's gonna stay with the Knicks, right,
can't get tips, but who you won't go out there
to get? Hey, Danny Hurley is someone who has proven
that he has succeeded. He has proven in relationships with players, Zalik.
He comes in with his great system. We're gonna do it. No,
(33:53):
he's a guy that has been able to manage players
and manage his way, and he loves his guys. His
guys love him, which is a bit deal at this level.
So yeah, I can see why. And this shows that
it's a move that they're thinking about past Lebron James.
This is like, hey, we think he can come and
help us win now, but more importantly, when we move
away from Lebron James era in a couple of years.
(34:13):
This is gonna be our guy. This is our pat Riley.
This is the guy that's gonna stay here and be
our guy for the next decade. And they're gonna give
him a ton of money and they're gonna bring him
in and this is absolutely going to happen. It makes
you think somebody else has taken over ownership of the Lakers,
because this is not how the Lakers make decisions. Well,
but that's the question, right who else is in the room?
Did to get a call from a guy who may
(34:34):
or may not have been Jerry West with a disguised voice.
This is what you should do. Act stealthily and work
behind the scenes. Because that's the other part of this
is quiet. Look, we talked about it at the end
of the college bucket season, right you're cutting down nets
and it becomes the already you done. Yeah, there's excitement
about you know, three peets and all that, but it's
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also just the idea of right, do you want a
different challenge? Right?
Speaker 3 (34:58):
Would he make the jump? Especially in a day and
age where we're seeing so many college coaches just say,
you know what I've done on the football side and
on the basketball side of I'm gonna go work in television.
I'm I'm done with this, I'm gonna get my NBA job,
or I'm just tapping out right a memoir and assess
(35:20):
things as the basketball in an NIL world shakeout. But
as this report came out this morning, again Woj having
written the book The Miracle of Saint Anthony about the
Hurley family, just kind of funny to me, Oh shams
as that, huh, well take this and coming back over
the top. So I want to know who's got another one,
(35:42):
who else is out there with connections, you know. But
this is also a good move by a Hurley and
company to really leverage a lot of money.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
Wants whatever you want, right we at least what you do.
You're coming off back to back national championship, you're a
young state.
Speaker 3 (35:58):
Coach, is that you could be using it the other
way to get whatever concessions you want and you stay
right where you are.
Speaker 7 (36:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
No, the only Hurley this is bad news for is
Bobby Hurley because he's gotta be walking around and going,
wait a minute, I was the chosen one. I won
national titles as a player at Duke. My brother couldn't
even get on the bleep in court for Seaton Hall
was hoisting up bad freeze, and now he's gonna be
coaching the Lakers. Come on, man, what is this different paths? Man?
Speaker 3 (36:23):
But even with the like what it was, the Reddick
higher and we're still this is all just speculation and reports.
It's like, I like that you're thinking outside the box
and trying to figure out a path for the Lebron
era and beyond. Even if we did make fun of
the ay at your podcast partner, and you're gonna have
to have some tough conversations on air.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
I mean, this makes so much sense for the Lakers.
I realized. I just can't believe the Lakers are doing it.
What a great, great decision, this one. What a wonderful
day coming up next, The only part about Porzingis I'm
mad about After Game one.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
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Speaker 1 (37:07):
Fox Sports Radio The Jason Smith Show with My best
friend Mike Harmon. I'm anna ask man true. The Celtics
were in control, then they weren't. Then Porzingis had a dunk,
and then they were back in control. There's Game one
of the NBA Finals. In five seconds, one oh seven
eighty nine, the Celtics beat the Mavericks. Celtics had as
many blocks as the Mavericks had assists. You can say,
(37:29):
if you're the Mavericks, well, hey, I don't feel that
bad after tonight. Yeah, Porzingis came off the bench and
scored a bunch of points, all right. At the same time,
you could say Tatum and Jalen Brown didn't have to
take over the game, and they still won the game
by eighteen. Oh boy, So what to make of Game one?
Nobody better to join us? Then Fox Sports won. NBA
(37:52):
Insider extraordinaire. Check him out on Twitter at Rick Bucker.
Also the on the Ball podcast, which I believe this
week will feature the entirety of Christops Porzingis's time with
the New York Nicks. Rick, what's happening about? How are you?
Speaker 6 (38:06):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (38:08):
I am good in spite of the fact that I
thought that we would get a more competitive Game one,
and I'm, as I reflect, I'm really not one thousand
percent sure what to make of that Game one. I
thought for sure, I thought for sure that I'd come
away with it like having a definitive feeling about this series.
(38:29):
I did want to see it because I wanted to
know exactly who Christopsperzingis was going to be. I said it.
I said it in our in our in our in
our predictions for Fox sports dot Com. I said, you know,
(38:50):
we were asked at the end, like who are you
picking in the in the series? And I said, man,
I I'd really like to see Game one before I
have to say this, because I don't know what Porzingis
we're going to get. Is he going to be like
Joel Embiid after more than a month's layoff and look,
he only played twenty minutes, but and you mentioned it.
(39:10):
By the way, you may have to give up that
that intro music here and not.
Speaker 1 (39:15):
No, no, no, John Tesh is doing a new one.
We're fine with the old one.
Speaker 4 (39:18):
We're all going, okay, yeah, fantastic, fantastic, but no, I
mean it played only twenty minutes but had without question
the biggest impact on the game. And it's funny like
when he was off the floor, you saw all the
reasons why you would pick the Mavericks to win this series,
like Dylan Brown and Jason Tatum throwing the ball around
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and just living and dying by threes. And then they
bring him, bring bring Porzingis back in and he shuts
the water off in terms of Dallas getting to the
rim and is scoring from the mid range like no
one else with with the Boston could. So look, I
think I think Dallas the game got away from them
(40:03):
early and then what was really striking, and we've seen
this before. I just thought that they would have learned
their lesson by now, is that when the team gets
into trouble, then Kyrie and Luca single handedly try to
go get something and this team just does not operate
well when that happens. It only digs a hole deeper
in most cases, and so I'm sure that Jason kids
(40:27):
got plenty of tape to show them and remind them
that they still have to be able to make plays
for everybody else for them to be at the best.
But look, Boston looked defensively. Again, this is the difficulty.
Like Boston looked more formidable defensively with Kristaps on the
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floor than they then Minnesota did for a good part
of that series. And so I need to see another game.
I'm not counting out the his ability to win the
series based on this first game, because I think we
saw against Oklahoma City they got they got run in
game one of that series as well. But certainly Kristaps
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Porzingis has given the indication that the Boston Celtics may
just be too talented to fail. They just may have
too much too where they're gonna have guys that are
gonna have crazy games and throw the ball all over
the yard, and yet they just have too many guys
who can impact it in a positive way. So we
(41:33):
shall see and.
Speaker 1 (41:35):
Just really take that away and also take away from
Rick Buker. Make sure to get this out on Twitter.
Rick would like to see three or four more NBA
Finals games before he picks who's going to win the
NBA Finals.
Speaker 4 (41:47):
I mean, I think that's fair. I mean, why not. Look,
if you're gonna give it, I can ask for it.
I may not get it, get it, but I can
ask for it.
Speaker 7 (41:55):
Right.
Speaker 1 (41:56):
Sure? I thought the poor zingis asked was fair? Though?
What the hell am I getting the Celtics up? Free zip?
I feel pretty good the Celtics are going to win
this series. I'm feeling pretty good about that.
Speaker 4 (42:06):
You know what's funny is I mean, look, if you're
gonna get to me, I'm gonna take it. It would be
so great if I if I was if it was
going on TV too, or even I'm coming on with
you guys, and it's like, you know every game, so Rick,
what do you think? I don't know. I need to
see a little bit more. Can I just see a
little I see a little bit more. Just give me
a little bit more. I like, I don't know, I'm
(42:29):
not I mean more than anything. I guess what I'm
surprised is I come away from this game feeling like
Dallas could still win the series because of how crazy
Boston plays. I just don't know. That that's a formula
(42:50):
for success. And I'm sure there's like Celtics fans out there,
like you just hit our team and you just against
this and it's like no, I mean this whole kind
of up and down the way they play this erratic style. Yeah,
they could be incredibly dynamic and Dallas may just may
not have enough talent to take advantage of it. But
(43:14):
I you're up by twenty nine in the second quarter,
it gets to eight, and they could have you know,
I think Dallas that was could have made it a game.
And so I'm still I still I'm still gonna you
know what, I'm gonna stay with Dallas. I'm gonna still
say Dallas in six games.
Speaker 1 (43:33):
See, there you go.
Speaker 4 (43:34):
What happened?
Speaker 1 (43:35):
All right?
Speaker 3 (43:36):
So how does Kyrie Irving turn it around six of
nineteen Holliday? And then how many times did you see
him get up in the air rick and kind of
look like he had no idea what he wanted to
do with the basketball because of Porzingis or whomever else
was cluttering the lane.
Speaker 4 (43:50):
Well, I will say, I mean some of that was
because this was the old Tyree in my mind, where
this is where he was a soloist, like, I'm going
to do everything I can to get my shot and
the only way that I'm going to pass it is
if I absolutely can't get that shot off. And that's
simply not the way he's played for the better part
(44:11):
of these playoffs. He has come in and said, I
am going to look to find the best shot, and
it might be mine, but it could if I'm going
to draw that much attention, then it's somebody else. And
I'll give Boston credit. They can switch everything. They were
(44:32):
super active. They obviously have thighs and athleticism for the
most part, and I thought they tried a little too
you know, Kyrie. Luca was like, oh, I got al
Horford on me, like now I'm going to dance. Now
I'm gonna try to get something on my own. And
I just think they got too dialed into trying to
(44:53):
exploit Al and it and it mucked up there. What
is other is a flowing offense because I didn't think.
I didn't think Luca. Look, Luca finished with one assist
and four turnovers. When do we ever see that.
Speaker 2 (45:11):
Happen?
Speaker 4 (45:11):
And I knew at one point Boston had eighteen assists
and uh and and Dallas had five, and I was like,
then I went in the game playing this way. So look,
Perry again, I've seen these versions of both Luca and Kyrie,
and I've seen them recover from them. I would expect
(45:32):
that that's what we're going to see in game two.
Speaker 1 (45:34):
Rick biug fs One Insider, our guest The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon. All right, Rick, So bigger surprise
for you today that we're talking about Chris tops Porzingi's
best player on the floor for game one. Danny Hurley
next head coach the Los Angeles Lakers. Bigger shock for
you today.
Speaker 4 (45:51):
Oh, it's not even close, Danny. Danny Hurley potentially being
the next Lakers head coach? Is it was? It came
I mean really, it came out of nowhere. I don't
know the timing of it. I do know that while
the Lakers were exploring hiring JJ, it was a matter
(46:14):
of and I may have said this to you guys
last week, it was a matter of who can they
get as the assistance? Can we get James Barrego? I
mean Sam Cassell said no, I don't know. I'm not
going to be I'm not going to be a Caddy
for for JJ, and so I just wonder whether they
got to a point where they're like, we can't build
the kind of staff that we need to make this
(46:35):
JJ Reddick thing fly. So what are other options? And
and and whoever decided, you know what, let's take a
run at Danny Hurley, because I don't think that this
was in the making for for a considerable period of time.
I think it was they didn't like what their NBA
(46:58):
options were and they decided, Hey, you know what, we're
the Los Angeles Lakers, and maybe we throw enough money
at Danny Hurley that that's a name, he's just won
two NC Double A titles. That's a guy who's built
a culture and a program. And hey, Lebron's got to
get behind it. Because Bronni gets coached by arguably one
(47:20):
of the best college coaches in the country without having
to go to college.
Speaker 7 (47:24):
How about that?
Speaker 1 (47:27):
What a bonus bonus.
Speaker 4 (47:31):
So I just I'm all for it. I'm usually very
skeptical about college coaches being able to make the jump
because they have to be so dialed into the college game.
There's no way. And I get this from having covered
a couple of coaches who have tried to make that jump,
(47:54):
and they it's just they don't know the NBA game
well enough. And your and your leash is incredibly short,
your your timeline is incredibly short. The second you try
to run a play or you do something where the play,
your players, your NBA players look at you, go, Uh,
that doesn't work at this level. You're done, like you're compromised.
(48:17):
You're never you're never getting back your authority at the
same level. Now, Danny having a brother Bobby, who played
in the league, comes from a coaching family, I would
guess that he's if he's not more familiar with the
NBA game, he can get up to speed pretty quickly
because because of his brother and and he's just such
(48:40):
a dynamic coach. And the league is so young now
that I think it's it's really changed where Yeah, for
the most part, college coach is making the jump has
not worked. But I can't remember the last time we
actually had one one of the top notch coaches that
tried to do it. And so I think we're in
(49:02):
a new era. And I think that if Danny Hurley
ends up coming to Lakers, I'm not saying he's gonna
win a championship. But I think he can be successful,
and I think this is also a higher. It's end
up hiring him. It's not just a Lebron, it's less
a Lebron higher and it's more a post Lebron. We
need somebody who can build a team and a program
(49:25):
and a culture, and certainly, of all the candidates that
we've had mentioned, no one has more experience of doing
all that than Dan Hurley.
Speaker 1 (49:35):
He's on Twitter at Rick Buker. That is at Rick Buker,
who would have been on JJ Reddicks staff and now
pilot hard to put that staff together. So now looks
like it could be Danny hurry.
Speaker 4 (49:45):
I just need to see one more game of Daja
Reddick calling the finals where I can make this decision.
Speaker 1 (49:51):
Will Okay? Very good? Very good? That's my gag. Good,
very good. Well we're headed the game seven, Rick, do
you have a winner? I'd really like to see the
first half how it plays out before I pick game seven.
I really want to see procrastination. Yo, I got no
problem with it. Rick. Hey, thanks a lot, buddy. We'll
talk to you next week as we get deeper into
(50:12):
the series. Great stuff from Rick Puker
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Mike Harmon on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
He's both tonight greetings and welcome inside. I'm honestly fine.
He'll join you in a trance to Jason Smith Show
with my best friend Mike Harmon live from the Ti
rag dot com studios, where, Yes, it is a night
that so far belongs to a guy who just checked
back into the game for the Celtics after an unbelievable
(00:57):
first half. And I'm old enough to remember last night
on the show and I said, you know, harm Ah
porzingis Is. He's the X factor of the series, which
we hit it right on the head all more, he's
the guy. If Porzingis can give them close to what
he gave him during the season, the Mavericks won't have
a chance to win. But boy, it's gonna be hard
for me to see that Porzingis is actually gonna be
(01:19):
able to go nuts and be that guy. He hasn't
played for so long, eight days, doesn't sound like he's healthy.
He doesn't know what he can do. The Celtics don't
know what he can do. And thirteen minutes in the
first half tonight, Chris tops Porzingis eighteen points on seven
of nine shooting as the Celtics jumped out to a
twenty one point halftime lead. The lead has since been
(01:40):
cut to fourteen, but still the story of the game
tonight right now is Chris Tobs Porzingis and is eighteen
point first half off the bench.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
She was absurd pulling up from thirty at a couple
of block shots. So you know, the spring in the
step in the defensive end also there, which we talked
about a bunch, you know, when we talk about the
four to five front line of what Dallas was bringing
to the table. And and even with Jason Tatum having
a three of eight night, to me, he's still plus
eighteen but eight six, four and five turnovers that matter,
(02:15):
still nursing a nice, beautiful fourteen point ly.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Look, and I didn't know how I was gonna feel,
right what I told you last night? Yeah, how am
I gonna feel for poors? Logically? What I tell you
your home was that it was a plus y plus
minus of zero. Yeah. No, but look when I saw
him come in and start hitting shots. This is how
(02:41):
I thought. I didn't know it because you never know what.
I'm just gonna get one of those now. No, I
want the guy to lose. I want him to lose, now,
come on, couldn't do it for the next he wanted
out of the knick, so bn I woand out him
and his brother going into the office and say we
can't be here. We gotta go someplace house gonna No,
that'll build him to close out Gabe maybe. But when
he came in and started hitting shots, I was like,
of course, Porzengis and I was fine with it.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
No, but you're fine now because it's only game one. No,
it's taking bills.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Mike is not fine. Trust trust me. I am fine, fine,
I can You're far from fine. Porzingis is three teams ago.
He's lucky he was even in the league. Right, it
was that was three It hurts the Mavericks more you
kidding look at that recently. Your eyes are bugging out, man.
In order of who's most upset, No, no, to the Knicks.
(03:28):
I mean the Wizards don't care because they're the Wizards.
But but look, the Knicks. This is worse for the
map about the Knicks, the Maverick him. Yeah, that's what
I mean. But that's the personal between you and Porzingis.
That's right, Yes, because he and I I loaned the
money a long time. You feel like you perpetrated a
fraud against you. He was look, Porzingis was young, he
was immature. He wasn't ready for the spotlight, wasn't ready
(03:50):
to handle the success that the New York Knicks wanted
to give him, that were ready to hand him everything. No, no, no, no, no,
I want out. Okay, you're out. And now I like
where we're at. I like the guys have his stars.
Porzingis as someone still, you can't count on him to
how a mavery when he's going to be in the
game and when he's not. So yeah, I'm okay with it.
If he plays well, great, I really am. Okay. I
(04:11):
tell you if I was it because I tell you,
I can't believe this guy. Oh, look at Dallas's cutting
back in the lead. Yeah yeah, Porzingi's blank, you man, No,
I did just cut the lead to eleven. You're not
completely lying, No.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
I am.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
I am absolutely fine with Porzingis playing. It's been a
great story. I trust me. I again, it's been a
long time. Just well, but here's looking at your face
when it's not like we were great with him. You know,
it's not like listen, I hurt myself. Listen today. Don't
make me pull up the big guns early in the show. Okay,
don't we pull up the big guns early, all right?
(04:47):
Because I will. I can't say Doc Rivers no, no,
no no no no no no no, no, no no no.
I got I got a better one for you than that.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
Anybody else an insider that has a tie directly to someone.
We got one guy it gets paid by a sports book.
We got the other guy that literally wrote a book
about the guy's family.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
So what are we doing here? Look, I am, I
am okay with poor Zingis playing. Well, it's fun. It's
a fun story. It's fun. Look, I remember I like
claim to Porzingis for a while, and he's been gone
for so long. Man, but he was your first love.
He's the guy in the beginning of the movie when
the when the when the heroes all set out on
the adventure and they say goodbye and they said, all right,
(05:25):
we'll see you, and then he shows up like for
some random part near the very end, going hey man,
I'm back. You know he is. He's a BIG's dark
lighter from uh uh from Star Wars Big like yeah,
Bigs in the very beginning, Hey I'm leaving, Okay, I'll
see you only assault the dut star and then you know,
poor Biggs, but that's kind of what it is. He's like, hey,
all right, but you forget about him for soul. He's
(05:45):
been going for so long, man, he's been going for
so long. The Mavericks hate it more because they actually
meant a lot to go get him, to pair him
with Luca, and that didn't work. It hurts them more
than it hurts the truth behind that.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
I mean, Luca tried to dismiss it and then he
just took Porzingis his money on a on a possession
and you could see the exasperation, like he wanted to
go and just hammer it. So it's a fun theater,
No question about it. But I think we'll monitor this
situation and your blood pressure as the series goes on,
because as we get towards games five, six, and seven,
(06:19):
when it's winning time. Now what porzingis is still putting
up numbers, You're going to be exasperated.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
And you're a science Mike, I tell you, I tell you,
I'm fine. I'll tell you. It was fun watching the
first girl.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
You gave a hack thinking it was gonna last forever,
and then she went away, and then she popped up
on your Facebook page later.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
Here's the thing I have learned over the course of
my life. That's certain battles you have to just let
go certain things you have to let go. You don't
forget about him entirely, but you have to can't let
him be front of mine and you're this frontal temporal
lobe or the mid temporal lobe. You got to put
him in the back, the back posterior temporal lobe. I
think that's a part. But god, uh, you gotta you
(07:02):
gotta let stuff go right. And there's certain things that yeah, okay,
there's certain sports things that are still front of mine
that pissed me off that I still I don't know
if I'll ever get over that nem hard miracle three,
but you want to hear it. No, not at all,
not at all.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
He might need that memory refreshed now, kind of like
inside out too.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna get over that memory.
I'm not gonna. I'm not great potter. I'm not gonna
get over that. Not gonna get a couple of things
with the Jets. Still, Uh, not gonna get over Hackenberg. No, No,
hecks not gonna get over uh familiar, giving up the
Big Home Running game, one of the World Series. Certain things, Uh, Diaz,
there's too many. I can't even there's only so much
(07:39):
ram in my head. But this this poor Zingi thing,
it's so long ago. Now again three now it's fresh,
it's three fresh ago. That bandage it was, you thought
it was healed. Let's let's know, it's that once against
listen it was it was. You know, this is five
years ago at this point. Right. Let's say your dating
(08:00):
someone and you think it's gonna be great. One of
those relationships where hey, you think it's gonna be great
right away. You there's that spark between the two of
you and it feels like, hey, this could go so
like a movie.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
Yeah, nice kind of Yeah, when you're you're at the
par happy song, which you're at the park and you
buy ice cream and you have, you know, put a
little ice cream on her nose, and she wipes your
face with the ice cream, you know, kind of like
a free guy.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
Right, that's how it goes, right, watching that yesterday, Yeah,
and you get a nice fun song on there, you
get Walking on Sunshine by Katrina and the Waves, and
everything is great. But after a short amount of time,
not very long, after a short amount of time, she says, hey,
not working. She goes into your office, talks to your
GM and says hey. She comes in with her sister
(08:42):
and says, hey, we want out. We want out. Okay,
you want out, you want out, We'll get you out.
And so then you break up.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Now you got lannigans, I'm not the loving kind of
playing in the background.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Can you break up? And she goes to somebody else.
You think, oh boy, wow, this guy, this guy. But
I mean, I like to think I'm as good looking
as this guy. But maybe he's a better looking. Maybe
he's got a better job than I do. Maybe's a
little bit more, but that doesn't work out, and all
of a sudden, then you know, they break up and
it's like, oh wow, I thought that was gonna work.
She can trying to rub my nose in okay, And
then she starts dating this guy. You're like, what is that?
(09:13):
She's dating that guy? I mean when he was wizards, Like,
that's the guys you're dating? Oh my good, Yeah, you
know what, I have won this. I've moved on because
then you start dating somebody who you suddenly go, hey,
you know, wait a minute. Maybe she's not as flashy
as everybody else, but boy, she finds a way to
score forty forty five points in a game. Doesn't matter.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
You know.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Maybe maybe she's not very tall, but doesn't matter. Still
finds a way hit those threes. Be a leader. You know.
Maybe she went to Villanova and you media met her
at a mixer after school or something, and sey, hey,
you've moved on. But then after this Edmond was on great,
and then you see that, hey, she's dating somebody else
now and she left that other dude and now she's
with the fourth boyfriend and now he's okay, hey, oh
(09:55):
he's more stable. He has a good job. Maybe he
works in sales. Maybe he someone. They have a nice house.
They live in the suburbs. They have a pool in
the backyard. They have two kids. Hey, you've moved on. Okay,
that's that. That's good and you feel happy. That's not
at all. But you get the unicorn.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
Yeah, that was too long though, that's all right, like
when you put that in front of it. But I
wanted to tell you how long it was, but I
had to go through the three it's been three teams, Harmon,
it's been that. It's been a wizard.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
No, he was a unit, your guy. It doesn't matter
how many stops in between. Years ago, no, six years ago,
We've been here for all of it. He's that. That's
that poor zingis thing has been playing. We've been playing
for like ten years now. I'm on man, and this
is the first time he's good. You guys got well,
(10:48):
it's the first time he's been playing and healthy at
a time when his team needs him. Let's just say that,
that's what it is. See that's where we get the
Randy Van Warmer in the movie. But I needed to
be able to show you, Hey, it's been a long time,
t Ja, it's been a long time since I did
this stroll. It's been a long time. You're talking about
three three other boyfriends. And I said, oh, now, okay,
(11:09):
that's great. You know what, Hey, I'm happy. I'm happy
that you're happy. This is all wonderful for all of us. Now,
it's okay, it's all right. I don't sit back and think, oh,
we could have been together, we could have done that,
we could have done all the time. No, it's it's
fine that you wish he was dunking like that. He
just had a big dunk. Porzingis followed up a missed
(11:29):
three with a dunk, and it's an eleven point lead
now for Boston from them. But look like I'm saying,
it's okay. If Porzingis scores thirty tonight and they win
and suddenly they're asking him questions, he's gonna say, he's
gonna say all the right things. Hey, I'm great here, boy,
I really blew it in New York. That was the
whole thing, because he said that before. And I need
to act a little bit differently and do things a
little bit differently, and approach things differently. He said that.
(11:51):
I mean, I am I am fine. I told you.
I was fine with the Knicks losing the Pacers because
of the way I have. Anybody left, they would have
got smoked by the Celtics. Anyway, I'm fine with Porzingis
here and I'm not going to see there and go.
It's like the Knicks and the Files. No, it's Porzingis again,
long time removed from the Knicks, long time removed. I'm
good now it doesn't. You'd be the worst. You would
(12:15):
be the absolute worst uh uh doctor ever? Like if
I was sitting on your couch saying, you know, Doc,
I feel pretty good. I'm over this, I'm over this loss,
and I feel like I want to vollow in my life. Nah,
it still kills you, now, Doc, I was feeling a
really good frame of mind when I committed today sit
on your couch. Yeah, but it still hurts. This still
burns you has a little bit. Admit, well, it takes
(12:35):
a tiny bit of it. But Doc, I said I
was feeling good coming in here. No, no, no, I
know you're not really feeling good. Our sessions overpay on
the way out, billable hours. Baby here.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
If I cure you, I don't get the next session again.
Worst doctor ever? Wor oh I have the best bedside manner.
How you feeling today, I'm feeling pretty good. We'll see
about it.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Looking like a little bit tired, but something vaccine, Well,
see about that. Sixty minutes on the couch here, We'll
see what we can fix right there now. It was
an eight point lead for the Celtics a couple moments ago,
as the Mavericks with a fierce rudded cut it to
eight a Luka Doncic three. The lead has now been
pushed out to thirteen Porzingis's big dunk instigating a little
(13:20):
mini run here by the Celtics. So it's a thirteen
point lead Boston over Dallas with about two minutes to
go Game one in the third quarter. I'm fine. I
think I've illustrated that I'm fine. And you're the worst
doctor in the world. And thankfully he think you does
protest too much. Belly, you are not You are not
doing that for a living in You're here with me,
thank you.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
That's my next that's my next act. Are you kidding?
I'm going back to school, doctor.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
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(14:06):
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(15:35):
had cut the Celtics lead to eight, and then enter Porzingis,
who misses a three but rebounds his own three with
a jam. The Celtics go on a run and close
the third quarter within eighty six sixty six lead over Dallas.
So after all of that, the Mavericks cut one point
off the Celtics lead. The Celtics going to quarter number
(15:58):
four with a twenty point lead eighty six to sixty six,
and Chris tops Porzingis has twenty points off the bench
of the Celtics. Yay, he does. Maybe the only story
more shocking than that. Well, also, doctor Pepper is now
out selling pepsi. The only other more shocking story than
this is that now the Lakers are planning to offer
their head coaching job to Danny Hurley of Yukon, a
(16:21):
shocking development to say the least. And joining us now,
the guy who has been on the inside of this
story all day, Lakers insider LA Times insider Dan Wiki
has a bit latest update everything happening right now with
Danny Hurley and the Lakers. These discussions are set to
accelerate over the course the next few days, and Dan,
(16:43):
I think the best place to begin is right here.
How the hell did this happen?
Speaker 6 (16:49):
It's a good question. It is very rarely did you
get the sort of like piece of news that feels
like a two by afford of the face like normally
their hints, right, And I guess maybe look in hindsight,
maybe they were some hints. So I think the best
(17:10):
way to kind of just so is that I can
try to let people know, like what I was hearing
and what I've been hearing basically since the Lakers fired
Darmenham and as I was hearing two very distinct things
from two very different groups of two very different sizes.
I was hearing JJ Redick was done. JJ Redick is
going to be the head coach. It's an eventuality, it's
(17:34):
his job from a lot of people, a lot of people,
but never from the people directly involved in the search, right,
because that's a small group. I mean, it's rock Point
and GINI bus right. I don't think that's like I'm
not speaking out of turn, like like that is who
is going to hire the next Lakers coach?
Speaker 7 (17:53):
Of those two people, they did not say JJ Redick. Ever,
the other thing I was hearing was that.
Speaker 6 (18:00):
You know, we are invested in this process. You know,
internally we're moving slowly. You know, I think I can
say this was the message that Rob Plinkett delivered to
some people within the staff that you know, don't believe
everything you're hearing. You know, the word noise was used
(18:20):
at times. And look, I think, you know, looking back
at some the stories I've written over the past couple weeks,
like there were things there were like bread crumbs in it, right,
Like you know, Tuesday, when it was reported that the
Lakers had dared in I Reddick, you know, I was
able to kind of suss out that you know, not
(18:42):
only were the Lakers quoting no Rush, but that also
you know Reddick hadn't talked contract numbers.
Speaker 7 (18:47):
At all with the Lakers. You know, James.
Speaker 6 (18:51):
Barrego had this like pretty wide in person interview, and
that wasn't a process that JJ went through necessarily, Like
they felt like there were like different things happening at
different times. And uh, after after recovering this morning and
being able to kind of confirm what Adrian Olsh and
(19:13):
Arrowski reported pretty quickly after that process, like you started
to shake off the Cobbobs and you're like, oh okay,
like it started to makes sense to be why they
moved in the shadows the way they did a little
bit more. I mean, can I expand on this?
Speaker 7 (19:28):
I know I'm rambling the.
Speaker 6 (19:30):
The reason why that too is like, look, if you're
gonna go after Danny Hurley, right, if you're going to
big game hunt in that fashion, one, you don't I
don't think if you're the Lakers, you want matt Istrie
to get a whip of it early on, right, because
like matt Istue is like crazy enough to give that
your twenty million dollars, right or something like that. So
like like you you you, So that's like definitely like
(19:53):
you want to like, all.
Speaker 7 (19:54):
Right, you're gonna wait that out right.
Speaker 6 (19:57):
And I think the second part of it is is,
like I was talking to someone it in like the
analogy we ended up coming up with it like if
you're going to tell, like, you know what you think
is the prettiest girl in school that you love her,
like you want to have a pretty good idea that
she's going.
Speaker 7 (20:10):
To say it back.
Speaker 6 (20:12):
And I think there's an element of that in this too, right,
that like you you can let this kind of leak
out now that it's like you you think maybe she'll
say it back.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
So what you're saying is the Lakers organization is not
the pretty girl it once was.
Speaker 6 (20:30):
I think Danny Hurley in this case is a pretty girl.
Speaker 7 (20:34):
The Lakers are the.
Speaker 6 (20:37):
Maybe Danny Hurley is like the Rachel Lee Cook in
this situation, and that would make the Lakers the Freddy
Prince Junior.
Speaker 8 (20:42):
Okay, is there any The main thing is is there
any chance this ends up like the end of Carrie,
because that would oh really, it could end up that
bad Telekinesis kills everybody and they go get your volta
in the car Okay.
Speaker 6 (20:55):
How soon do you forget two coaching searches?
Speaker 7 (20:59):
Ago? Two?
Speaker 6 (21:01):
Don't mean that long ago. That's that the Lakers were
at the doorstep with Tyron Lou only to them be
at the doorstep with Monney Williams, only to them to
hire Frank Vogel.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
How about how about that?
Speaker 2 (21:14):
Damn?
Speaker 6 (21:14):
Now, I'd like to think, I'd like to think they've
learned from their mistakes. But yeah, of course, I mean,
this isn't over. It's not gonna be over until you know,
Danny Hurley doesn't live in Connecticut anymore.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
To that end, there was there was a report that
was circulated a little bit earlier that suddenly the Pistons
are reevaluating everything and Monty Williams may suddenly become available again.
Well he tied to any insider like these other guys.
Speaker 6 (21:42):
No, So the Monney Williams thing again, like it's funny,
Like the Montey Williams thing again was like something that
like kind of you heard whispers of, you know, in
Chicago during the combine, and it just was like at
one point somebody floated to me like kind of like
you know, like what if the uh, you know, what
if the Pistons said half the salary. Would the Lakers
be interested then? You know, but I but I think,
(22:05):
like I really think that it was. I mean, it
certainly seems at this point that this was a small
field race, right, and that pretty pretty early on, the
Lakers decided that Danny Hurley was the guy. And I think,
you know, I think they hold the Dio Redicks still
(22:26):
in pretty highest team. I think I don't want to
say he's the plan B, but you know, it certainly
seems like Danny Early's the plan A.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
Well, here's the thing though, now, Dan is they've gone
so far now, even though it seems like it's early,
they've gone so far down the line where the Lakers
are very open with this is our number one guy,
this is who we want, and certain teams can't be
told no, because it's unbelievably embarrassing. Now to get back
from Danny Hurley that he's already talked to his team
at yukonme had practiced like he said, Hey, listen, yes
(22:58):
I'm talking to the Lakers, but it's business as usual.
Tells me this is going to happen, right, There's it's
not like, yeah, we want Danny Hurley and there's nothing
out of stores, you know, and say, yeah, I talk
to the Lakers, Okay. So the fact that that it's
this public tells me that this is going to happen,
and this would be an unbelievable disaster for the Lakers
if it doesn't.
Speaker 6 (23:16):
Yeah, So I think, Look, if I was a Lakers fan,
I'm not.
Speaker 7 (23:20):
That's not my job.
Speaker 6 (23:21):
If I were a Lakers fan, though, I mean I
would brace in some fashion, possibly for the worst, because
like there is a long tradition of coaches in Danny
Hurley's position, like towing the NBA waters only to decide
that life is sort of a college demagogue is more
more like it's just the more appealing life, you know.
(23:42):
I think what's different with Danny Hurley is that he's
like been pretty transparent about the parts of that demagoguery
lifestyle that wear him out.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
You know.
Speaker 6 (23:52):
I mean, I think I saw it. I have not
been following it Danny Hurley's social media posts throughout the
past couple of years, so I don't know if this
was totally in jazz. I mean, it seemed pretty funny
to me. Uh, there was a post that was him
on the first day of the portal and it's just
him laying on the ground in the fetal position.
Speaker 7 (24:10):
You know, what is that?
Speaker 3 (24:10):
But is that the point where we're at with all
this Dan that he becomes the latest of all right,
I'm done with all of the nonsense. I got to
get through to get to coach a team.
Speaker 6 (24:19):
I mean, maybe, like I will say it did it
did strike me today that it would be strange to
be like preparing this like gigantic offer to somebody and
you're doing it in part because they'd like to see
their life get easier. Like that is weird, right, And
I don't really think that's what's happening, Like it's just
different mostly you know. But but look, I mean we
(24:44):
can there's a ton to talk about here. I mean
I think another thing another part of this is like, okay,
so like it reads right on paper bill plashky uh.
Sometimes colleague, here of your guys like absolutely was like,
oh this is traffic, Like that's you know, like all excited,
flash key, you know about the hire, and then it's
(25:04):
sort of like, okay, well let's talk about the guys
who've made this transition.
Speaker 7 (25:09):
And then.
Speaker 6 (25:11):
You start to ask around and be like well, why
has no one been able to do it? And the
reasons are all pretty good?
Speaker 1 (25:19):
Wow, look at Dan Waki, yeah right right now the Lakers, okay,
restrict his accent, A great coach for Bronnie, restrict accent.
Speaker 7 (25:32):
I am.
Speaker 6 (25:32):
I'm withholding my judgment on any Bronnie development plan the
coach hiring. But but but like honestly though, like right,
like like what does success even look like for a
college coach jumping to the pros. I think I saw
a stat I tweeted at one point that there's been
four coaches ever who have coached in the Final four
(25:54):
and the NBA Finals and and and it's only one is.
Speaker 7 (25:59):
One and is Larry Brown.
Speaker 6 (26:02):
Yeah, and like like otherwise.
Speaker 7 (26:04):
It's like, I mean, we're talking.
Speaker 6 (26:06):
Van Brendakoff from like the sixtiesn Shue or Schefs I
should not have perhaps the Dame the Lakers cooked before him,
and doctor Jack Ramsey those are the four. Like, so
you know, you look at it and say, like you
might look at someone like Billy Donovan, who's like, I'm
pretty good doppelganger right in terms of what he was
able to do with Florida and stuff, and say, well,
like he has been a failure in the pros like
(26:27):
put domins on six percent of his games. He's been
employed and will continue to be employed.
Speaker 7 (26:34):
But I mean, I.
Speaker 6 (26:35):
Don't think the Lakers believe today that if they do this,
they're getting Billy Donovan. I think their their their sites
are higher.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
Well I look at it this way, Dan, because I say, Okay,
this is not just a hire for now. Yes, you're
hiring from now because other than if you hire JJ Reddick,
you hire Barego. I mean, are you really just hiring
the same guys? Is Look, are Lebron and ad really
going to listen to these guys? This is what it
really shows me that wait a minute, the Lakers may
have a vision for that that goes way before Rehetick does.
Speaker 6 (27:06):
See I think Reddick does that too.
Speaker 7 (27:08):
I mean, like honestly, like.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
I mean, do a podcast together, come on, no, but
but hold on, but hold on, Like I'll say, like
two things on that front.
Speaker 7 (27:16):
One, I mean, it makes it's hilarious. I don't get
me wrong, it's hilarious.
Speaker 6 (27:22):
But but but I think like this notion that like
JJ is like riding you know, like on the banana
boat with Carmelo and Chris Paul and Dwayne Wade is
just not true, Like this is a moderately new relationship
all things considered, right, Like I don't know that they
had even met really like really like socially had met
(27:44):
before this podcast. And then I think, like, and then
I think the other part of this is like Lebron
has like really removed himself from these proceedings. This is
not it is about Lebron in so much as the
Lakers think that Lebron James is going to be on
their team next year and that is important to them,
and that is the power that Lebron is able to
wield at this point, like just like the walk into
(28:06):
the room type of power. He's not telling them to
hire anyone. I haven't heard anything even close to.
Speaker 7 (28:15):
That from anyone in this process.
Speaker 6 (28:17):
And so I think, like, you know, in terms of
like like the easy way out, and this is going
to sound like really disparaging, and I really don't mean
it to be disparaging. Like the easy way out if
you're talking about like just do it for Lebron and
like figure it out, is like you hire somebody like
Terry Stotts, you know, who's like a good you would
have hired my Putinenholder when he's available. You hire a
(28:39):
guy who's like ready made.
Speaker 7 (28:41):
Day one is.
Speaker 6 (28:44):
Track record of success in the NBA as a coach.
This is kind of what's funny, is like, that's not
Dan Hurley and that's not JJ Reddick. Actually it's kind
of the same. Like neither of them really have that
track record. I mean, in fact, neither of them do
have that track record. I would wager to say that
(29:05):
probably JJ Reddick on day one is like has a
deeper library of NBA knowledge than Dan Hurley does, just
based on their professions. Like you, Dan early is pretty
busy a lot during the NBA season this year, and
JJ Redick was being paid to call games and to
talk about them on one of the nineteen podcasts.
Speaker 7 (29:26):
So like that, it's it is.
Speaker 6 (29:30):
It's an interesting pivot in the sense that the name
is different. I think, like once sort of that wears
off some of the questions like are kind of the
same to me? And they are both though, and they
are both. Some of the strengths in terms of like
we are doing this to build a program are also
I think similar, which is kind of why if those
(29:51):
are the two guys that you believe are at one
and two in the peck mortar. I think that's probably
why those are the two that are at the top.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
He's on Twitter at dan wiki Sport. That is at
dan woiki Sports, La Times, Lakers Insider and a man
who began today with a two by four to the
face with news of Danny Hurley and the Lakers. Dan
is always buddy appreciated, my friend. We'll talk to you
as this search unfolds.
Speaker 6 (30:15):
Sounds good, guys. Hopefully Hackshad Jim Duggant doesn't come by
and again in the morning.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
What do you think about that? Tough guy? See you
great stuff from Dan Weik. We'll have much more on
this story coming up, because look this. To me, this
shows so much maturity and good decision making by the Lakers.
It's surprising. It's the Lakers. The Jason Smith Show with
my best friend Mike Carmon live from the tire Rag
dot Com Studios coming up next. Boy, I'll tell you,
(30:41):
we really have to break down Danny Hurley to the Lakers.
This bombshell that looks like it's going to happen. It
makes too much sense, and it shows great maturity and
forward thinking by the Lakers.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
Which makes me, what did you say, something's going to
go run something else something, It.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
Doesn't make sense. It's the Lake. We'll get to that
coming up next right here, Jason and Mike. Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific, Fox.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
Sports Radio The Jason Smith Show with my best friend
Mike Harmon. The the Celtics putting the finishing touches on
Game one victory over the Dallas Mavericks. It's one oh
five eighty two with just under two minutes left to
go in the game. Starters are out of the game now.
(31:33):
This is all but been decided for most of the
fourth quarter. We'll have more on this game coming up
in a few minutes. In addition to I will say
this before you get into the Lakers. The Celtics of
course honoring Bill Walton, who passed away last week, one
of their former stars. And I'll tell you those black
warmups with just that are solid black with the Walton
and the rainbow and the day glow, that looks fantastic.
(31:54):
It's a good look. That's a really sweet pullover. Man
The video they did before the game was beautiful. Yeah,
talk about the luckiest guy in the world is a
lot of his catchphrases. But yeah, you're you're talking about style. Uh,
that's one of those.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
We'll be looking to see if any merchant goes up
with that. Those are pretty sweet. That's one of those
that that's such a clean look and it's such a
great way to your remembering him with his name and
the colors, it just looks so great. Uh. Now, thanks
to Dan Wiki for stopping by a few minutes ago.
Lakers Insider with the La Times dot Com. Uh. Look
the two stories tonight game one of the NBA Finals,
(32:29):
and the Lakers are moving towards hiring Yukon's Danny Hurley
as their new head coach. And this, to me, this
is shocking, not because all of a sudden we're hearing
Danny Hurley's name, but this is a move from the
Lakers that shows foresight. It shows that we're thinking about
(32:49):
more than just throwing something out there and hoping it sticks,
which is what they've done with the last couple of
coaches they've hired. This is let's go out and let's
get somebody who we know can come in and be
someone that can grow the brand and grow the team.
Because hearing JJ Reddick, which said, hey, he's brought Lebron
the podcast with Lebron, he's never coached before. Yeah, maybe
that'll work. Yeah, we like James Barrego, maybe he'll work.
(33:11):
This is where I feel like somebody really influential, And
maybe it was Genie, maybe was Rob Polinka, but somebody
stood up in that room and said, hey, uh, let's
let let's not settle, let's swing for the fences here.
Who do we want if we could have anybody, and
I'm sure Danny Hurley's name came up and said let's
go see if we can get Danny Hurley. Like somehow
(33:32):
that cut through the clutter that, hey, we should be
going after the best guy we can get. And you
can only go after who's out there, right, So I CA,
you only go after who's out there. You can't go
get TIBs, right, he's gonna stay with the Knicks, right,
can't get tips, but who you won't go out there
to get? Hey, Danny Hurley is someone who has proven
that he has succeeded. He has proven in relationships with players, Zalik.
He comes in with his great system. We're gonna do it. No,
(33:53):
he's a guy that has been able to manage players
and manage his way, and he loves his guys. His
guys love him, which is a bit deal at this level.
So yeah, I can see why. And this shows that
it's a move that they're thinking about past Lebron James.
This is like, hey, we think he can come and
help us win now, but more importantly, when we move
away from Lebron James era in a couple of years.
(34:13):
This is gonna be our guy. This is our pat Riley.
This is the guy that's gonna stay here and be
our guy for the next decade. And they're gonna give
him a ton of money and they're gonna bring him
in and this is absolutely going to happen. It makes
you think somebody else has taken over ownership of the Lakers,
because this is not how the Lakers make decisions. Well,
but that's the question, right who else is in the room?
Did to get a call from a guy who may
(34:34):
or may not have been Jerry West with a disguised voice.
This is what you should do. Act stealthily and work
behind the scenes. Because that's the other part of this
is quiet. Look, we talked about it at the end
of the college bucket season, right you're cutting down nets
and it becomes the already you done. Yeah, there's excitement
about you know, three peets and all that, but it's
(34:55):
also just the idea of right, do you want a
different challenge? Right?
Speaker 3 (34:58):
Would he make the jump? Especially in a day and
age where we're seeing so many college coaches just say,
you know what I've done on the football side and
on the basketball side of I'm gonna go work in television.
I'm I'm done with this, I'm gonna get my NBA job,
or I'm just tapping out right a memoir and assess
(35:20):
things as the basketball in an NIL world shakeout. But
as this report came out this morning, again Woj having
written the book The Miracle of Saint Anthony about the
Hurley family, just kind of funny to me, Oh shams
as that, huh, well take this and coming back over
the top. So I want to know who's got another one,
(35:42):
who else is out there with connections, you know. But
this is also a good move by a Hurley and
company to really leverage a lot of money.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
Wants whatever you want, right we at least what you do.
You're coming off back to back national championship, you're a
young state.
Speaker 3 (35:58):
Coach, is that you could be using it the other
way to get whatever concessions you want and you stay
right where you are.
Speaker 7 (36:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
No, the only Hurley this is bad news for is
Bobby Hurley because he's gotta be walking around and going,
wait a minute, I was the chosen one. I won
national titles as a player at Duke. My brother couldn't
even get on the bleep in court for Seaton Hall
was hoisting up bad freeze, and now he's gonna be
coaching the Lakers. Come on, man, what is this different paths? Man?
Speaker 3 (36:23):
But even with the like what it was, the Reddick
higher and we're still this is all just speculation and reports.
It's like, I like that you're thinking outside the box
and trying to figure out a path for the Lebron
era and beyond. Even if we did make fun of
the ay at your podcast partner, and you're gonna have
to have some tough conversations on air.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
I mean, this makes so much sense for the Lakers.
I realized. I just can't believe the Lakers are doing it.
What a great, great decision, this one. What a wonderful
day coming up next, The only part about Porzingis I'm
mad about After Game one.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon ten pm Eastern, seven pm Pacific
on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 1 (37:07):
Fox Sports Radio The Jason Smith Show with My best
friend Mike Harmon. I'm anna ask man true. The Celtics
were in control, then they weren't. Then Porzingis had a dunk,
and then they were back in control. There's Game one
of the NBA Finals. In five seconds, one oh seven
eighty nine, the Celtics beat the Mavericks. Celtics had as
many blocks as the Mavericks had assists. You can say,
(37:29):
if you're the Mavericks, well, hey, I don't feel that
bad after tonight. Yeah, Porzingis came off the bench and
scored a bunch of points, all right. At the same time,
you could say Tatum and Jalen Brown didn't have to
take over the game, and they still won the game
by eighteen. Oh boy, So what to make of Game one?
Nobody better to join us? Then Fox Sports won. NBA
(37:52):
Insider extraordinaire. Check him out on Twitter at Rick Bucker.
Also the on the Ball podcast, which I believe this
week will feature the entirety of Christops Porzingis's time with
the New York Nicks. Rick, what's happening about? How are you?
Speaker 6 (38:06):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (38:08):
I am good in spite of the fact that I
thought that we would get a more competitive Game one,
and I'm, as I reflect, I'm really not one thousand
percent sure what to make of that Game one. I
thought for sure, I thought for sure that I'd come
away with it like having a definitive feeling about this series.
(38:29):
I did want to see it because I wanted to
know exactly who Christopsperzingis was going to be. I said it.
I said it in our in our in our in
our predictions for Fox sports dot Com. I said, you know,
(38:50):
we were asked at the end, like who are you
picking in the in the series? And I said, man,
I I'd really like to see Game one before I
have to say this, because I don't know what Porzingis
we're going to get. Is he going to be like
Joel Embiid after more than a month's layoff and look,
he only played twenty minutes, but and you mentioned it.
(39:10):
By the way, you may have to give up that
that intro music here and not.
Speaker 1 (39:15):
No, no, no, John Tesh is doing a new one.
We're fine with the old one.
Speaker 4 (39:18):
We're all going, okay, yeah, fantastic, fantastic, but no, I
mean it played only twenty minutes but had without question
the biggest impact on the game. And it's funny like
when he was off the floor, you saw all the
reasons why you would pick the Mavericks to win this series,
like Dylan Brown and Jason Tatum throwing the ball around
(39:41):
and just living and dying by threes. And then they
bring him, bring bring Porzingis back in and he shuts
the water off in terms of Dallas getting to the
rim and is scoring from the mid range like no
one else with with the Boston could. So look, I
think I think Dallas the game got away from them
(40:03):
early and then what was really striking, and we've seen
this before. I just thought that they would have learned
their lesson by now, is that when the team gets
into trouble, then Kyrie and Luca single handedly try to
go get something and this team just does not operate
well when that happens. It only digs a hole deeper
in most cases, and so I'm sure that Jason kids
(40:27):
got plenty of tape to show them and remind them
that they still have to be able to make plays
for everybody else for them to be at the best.
But look, Boston looked defensively. Again, this is the difficulty.
Like Boston looked more formidable defensively with Kristaps on the
(40:49):
floor than they then Minnesota did for a good part
of that series. And so I need to see another game.
I'm not counting out the his ability to win the
series based on this first game, because I think we
saw against Oklahoma City they got they got run in
game one of that series as well. But certainly Kristaps
(41:13):
Porzingis has given the indication that the Boston Celtics may
just be too talented to fail. They just may have
too much too where they're gonna have guys that are
gonna have crazy games and throw the ball all over
the yard, and yet they just have too many guys
who can impact it in a positive way. So we
(41:33):
shall see and.
Speaker 1 (41:35):
Just really take that away and also take away from
Rick Buker. Make sure to get this out on Twitter.
Rick would like to see three or four more NBA
Finals games before he picks who's going to win the
NBA Finals.
Speaker 4 (41:47):
I mean, I think that's fair. I mean, why not. Look,
if you're gonna give it, I can ask for it.
I may not get it, get it, but I can
ask for it.
Speaker 7 (41:55):
Right.
Speaker 1 (41:56):
Sure? I thought the poor zingis asked was fair? Though?
What the hell am I getting the Celtics up? Free zip?
I feel pretty good the Celtics are going to win
this series. I'm feeling pretty good about that.
Speaker 4 (42:06):
You know what's funny is I mean, look, if you're
gonna get to me, I'm gonna take it. It would be
so great if I if I was if it was
going on TV too, or even I'm coming on with
you guys, and it's like, you know every game, so Rick,
what do you think? I don't know. I need to
see a little bit more. Can I just see a
little I see a little bit more. Just give me
a little bit more. I like, I don't know, I'm
(42:29):
not I mean more than anything. I guess what I'm
surprised is I come away from this game feeling like
Dallas could still win the series because of how crazy
Boston plays. I just don't know. That that's a formula
(42:50):
for success. And I'm sure there's like Celtics fans out there,
like you just hit our team and you just against
this and it's like no, I mean this whole kind
of up and down the way they play this erratic style. Yeah,
they could be incredibly dynamic and Dallas may just may
not have enough talent to take advantage of it. But
(43:14):
I you're up by twenty nine in the second quarter,
it gets to eight, and they could have you know,
I think Dallas that was could have made it a game.
And so I'm still I still I'm still gonna you
know what, I'm gonna stay with Dallas. I'm gonna still
say Dallas in six games.
Speaker 1 (43:33):
See, there you go.
Speaker 4 (43:34):
What happened?
Speaker 1 (43:35):
All right?
Speaker 3 (43:36):
So how does Kyrie Irving turn it around six of
nineteen Holliday? And then how many times did you see
him get up in the air rick and kind of
look like he had no idea what he wanted to
do with the basketball because of Porzingis or whomever else
was cluttering the lane.
Speaker 4 (43:50):
Well, I will say, I mean some of that was
because this was the old Tyree in my mind, where
this is where he was a soloist, like, I'm going
to do everything I can to get my shot and
the only way that I'm going to pass it is
if I absolutely can't get that shot off. And that's
simply not the way he's played for the better part
(44:11):
of these playoffs. He has come in and said, I
am going to look to find the best shot, and
it might be mine, but it could if I'm going
to draw that much attention, then it's somebody else. And
I'll give Boston credit. They can switch everything. They were
(44:32):
super active. They obviously have thighs and athleticism for the
most part, and I thought they tried a little too
you know, Kyrie. Luca was like, oh, I got al
Horford on me, like now I'm going to dance. Now
I'm gonna try to get something on my own. And
I just think they got too dialed into trying to
(44:53):
exploit Al and it and it mucked up there. What
is other is a flowing offense because I didn't think.
I didn't think Luca. Look, Luca finished with one assist
and four turnovers. When do we ever see that.
Speaker 2 (45:11):
Happen?
Speaker 4 (45:11):
And I knew at one point Boston had eighteen assists
and uh and and Dallas had five, and I was like,
then I went in the game playing this way. So look,
Perry again, I've seen these versions of both Luca and Kyrie,
and I've seen them recover from them. I would expect
(45:32):
that that's what we're going to see in game two.
Speaker 1 (45:34):
Rick biug fs One Insider, our guest The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon. All right, Rick, So bigger surprise
for you today that we're talking about Chris tops Porzingi's
best player on the floor for game one. Danny Hurley
next head coach the Los Angeles Lakers. Bigger shock for
you today.
Speaker 4 (45:51):
Oh, it's not even close, Danny. Danny Hurley potentially being
the next Lakers head coach? Is it was? It came
I mean really, it came out of nowhere. I don't
know the timing of it. I do know that while
the Lakers were exploring hiring JJ, it was a matter
(46:14):
of and I may have said this to you guys
last week, it was a matter of who can they
get as the assistance? Can we get James Barrego? I
mean Sam Cassell said no, I don't know. I'm not
going to be I'm not going to be a Caddy
for for JJ, and so I just wonder whether they
got to a point where they're like, we can't build
the kind of staff that we need to make this
(46:35):
JJ Reddick thing fly. So what are other options? And
and and whoever decided, you know what, let's take a
run at Danny Hurley, because I don't think that this
was in the making for for a considerable period of time.
I think it was they didn't like what their NBA
(46:58):
options were and they decided, Hey, you know what, we're
the Los Angeles Lakers, and maybe we throw enough money
at Danny Hurley that that's a name, he's just won
two NC Double A titles. That's a guy who's built
a culture and a program. And hey, Lebron's got to
get behind it. Because Bronni gets coached by arguably one
(47:20):
of the best college coaches in the country without having
to go to college.
Speaker 7 (47:24):
How about that?
Speaker 1 (47:27):
What a bonus bonus.
Speaker 4 (47:31):
So I just I'm all for it. I'm usually very
skeptical about college coaches being able to make the jump
because they have to be so dialed into the college game.
There's no way. And I get this from having covered
a couple of coaches who have tried to make that jump,
(47:54):
and they it's just they don't know the NBA game
well enough. And your and your leash is incredibly short,
your your timeline is incredibly short. The second you try
to run a play or you do something where the play,
your players, your NBA players look at you, go, Uh,
that doesn't work at this level. You're done, like you're compromised.
(48:17):
You're never you're never getting back your authority at the
same level. Now, Danny having a brother Bobby, who played
in the league, comes from a coaching family, I would
guess that he's if he's not more familiar with the
NBA game, he can get up to speed pretty quickly
because because of his brother and and he's just such
(48:40):
a dynamic coach. And the league is so young now
that I think it's it's really changed where Yeah, for
the most part, college coach is making the jump has
not worked. But I can't remember the last time we
actually had one one of the top notch coaches that
tried to do it. And so I think we're in
(49:02):
a new era. And I think that if Danny Hurley
ends up coming to Lakers, I'm not saying he's gonna
win a championship. But I think he can be successful,
and I think this is also a higher. It's end
up hiring him. It's not just a Lebron, it's less
a Lebron higher and it's more a post Lebron. We
need somebody who can build a team and a program
(49:25):
and a culture, and certainly, of all the candidates that
we've had mentioned, no one has more experience of doing
all that than Dan Hurley.
Speaker 1 (49:35):
He's on Twitter at Rick Buker. That is at Rick Buker,
who would have been on JJ Reddicks staff and now
pilot hard to put that staff together. So now looks
like it could be Danny hurry.
Speaker 4 (49:45):
I just need to see one more game of Daja
Reddick calling the finals where I can make this decision.
Speaker 1 (49:51):
Will Okay? Very good? Very good? That's my gag. Good,
very good. Well we're headed the game seven, Rick, do
you have a winner? I'd really like to see the
first half how it plays out before I pick game seven.
I really want to see procrastination. Yo, I got no
problem with it. Rick. Hey, thanks a lot, buddy. We'll
talk to you next week as we get deeper into
(50:12):
the series. Great stuff from Rick Puker
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