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July 9, 2024 • 49 mins

Mike Harmon and Arnie Spanier get you all caught up in the wild day of sports. Steph Curry may or may not want to be a Warrior for life. Plus, all the latest on the ongoing extension talks between the Dolphins and Tua Tagovailoa!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
This is the best of the Jason Smith Show with
Mike Harmon on Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 3 (00:30):
Yeah, let's go. It's a beautiful day in the neighborhood,
and damn I'm happy to be back in it.

Speaker 4 (00:37):
Welcome back, big boy, welcome back.

Speaker 5 (00:39):
Thank you.

Speaker 3 (00:40):
Here's the voice of the steaking genius himself. It's Arnaye
Spanning with me on Mike Carmen Jason Smith Off. This week.
We kind of played plane tag as I came back
to the stage. He absconded on his European holiday. Thanks
to all those who said in my stead, I know
you did one of the nights last week, Arnie. It's
good to be working with some proper villains. We got Alex,

(01:03):
we got Justin, we got Steve de Seger. We're ready
to go here a big action item list all along
I got, as we joke about always, the legal papers
start flowing early in the morning, nine to twelve. And
it's funny because i'd actually had the conversation with my
younger daughter at about eight o'clock. She's like, Oh, who's

(01:23):
in with you tonight? I go, Oh, it's gonna be
Arnie goes, have the papers come yet? So she already knows,
and I'm like, And then it finally came at nine
to twelve. I'm like, he's late.

Speaker 5 (01:31):
I'm late, I went, but you know what, I was
looking at the topics.

Speaker 4 (01:34):
You said, I can't read it because it's like the
size of the fine print on the end of a contract.

Speaker 3 (01:40):
Well, but you know what, I didn't send you. I
could have sent you my scrawling, because I actually have
it on an actual sheet of paper, both my own
chicken scratch, but I didn't. We got a lot to
get to. I mean, some of the notes that you've sent,
a bunch that we've mashed together. We'll get into Steph
Curry momentarily. I've got the great reminder of what the
actual definition of nepati, and that is my warning to

(02:02):
all my media brethren. Who've really gone after Lebron James
this last week. Just look in the mirror a little bit,
because you might have caught yourself in some similar situations
with how you handle your own jobs, careers, and maybe
some people that you've helped along the way. That doesn't
mean they weren't going to be fine employees, but you

(02:23):
didn't know that when you refer to them, now, did you.
We'll get into that and so much more as we go,
But it is good to be back, Arnie. Welcome in.
Always good to hang out with you. Legend in this business.

Speaker 4 (02:35):
So I want to hear about your trip too. I
can't wait to hear it. You must have a lot.
You went over to Dublin. You saw Taylor Sweet we did?

Speaker 3 (02:41):
Yeah? No, that was fun.

Speaker 2 (02:43):
Yeah no.

Speaker 3 (02:43):
The first thing. Rob Gara, executive producer of The Odd
Cop a couple longtime Fox Sports Radio legend himself. He
goes for you and me. I mean, nobody else is here.
How much did that trip cost you? And I just
smiled and I said, we'll be working Sundays for a
while here on Fox Sports Radio, and maybe a couple

(03:03):
of big pieces of my trading card collection have to
say goodbye. But beyond that, my daughters and I had
an experience for those days, and my brother was out
there during the Dublin part that I'll never be able
to forget even if I tried.

Speaker 4 (03:16):
You should have pulled like a super Bowl and tried
to sneak into the concert like that one guy that
sneaks into the super Bowl every year.

Speaker 5 (03:22):
I'm sure it would have been that tough to do.

Speaker 3 (03:24):
You know, no, not at all, no security whatsoever. I
didn't have to show a wristband nineteen times to walk
thirty feet down a hallway fearful of what other folks
might have been down that road. So yeah, I mean
lots of lots of fun, you know, some old castles
and churches and cathedrals and watering holes to go through.

(03:44):
So I mean we had a blast. We really lived
it up for those couple of weeks. A couple of days,
I should say, good for you, three days in Dublin
and then a couple of days in London.

Speaker 5 (03:53):
Nice. Nice, It's a trip of a lifetime.

Speaker 4 (03:56):
You had a great time, and I'm sure you were
just chopping to get back into all this talk about
Brody and this and that, and it was kind of crazy.

Speaker 5 (04:04):
The way people were getting unhinged about what was going on.

Speaker 3 (04:07):
You know, Oh you know how it goes though. It's
it's as much as you need the time away, and
it was really good for the mental reset of course,
and whatever it is, you know, and the jokes about
what it costs or whatever. Maybe you can't go to Europe,
maybe you can't go to the shore, whatever the case is.
Yet you got to find a place of peace, to
step off the merry go round for a minute, because well,

(04:27):
I mean, look, I've been very open with my own
struggles on the highs and low's and I call it
the roller coaster. My family and the guys here they've
been very supportive and helpful to get me through all
of that. And you know, you hit a wall and
you've been doing this a long time.

Speaker 5 (04:44):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 3 (04:45):
As much as you love day to day, sometimes it's
say all right, I need to pause, I needed to rest.
Doesn't mean I wasn't still apprised of what was going on, right,
I was still watching every minute of Euro twenty twenty four,
every bit of COVID. I watched every minute of listless,
useless extra time soccer in Euro twenty twenty.

Speaker 4 (05:03):
You're gonna be watching that. I mean that that was fun.
I bet you had a blast watch Well, we weren't
gonna skip that.

Speaker 3 (05:08):
No, no, no, I mean because look, you're you're in
nations participating and certainly England with what's going on, and
and look there's there's been some how should we say,
some mediocre soccer being played in many of those big events.
And I know Jason and you guys, and certainly when
Steve Disager graciously sat in for me, and you know,

(05:30):
they talked a lot about the failings of the US
men's national team. I'm not gonna say I miss those
conversations because you know, I kind of get myself in
trouble sometimes because we watched that a little more than
I think most of our media brethren when it comes
to the ins and outs and and ebb and flow
of those particular squads. So you know, between that and

(05:52):
NBA Free Agency, there were a couple of times I
started to fire up the phone to record a video.
My daughters both looked at me, and I started getting
the decay do it? They can't be with Tom fingerwaven No,
you promised you're off get off Twitter? And my brother
would laugh at me as well. He's like, like, man,
take the break. All of this will be waiting for
you and then some because look, I come right back.

(06:14):
And what's the big topic. Yeah, Bronnie James.

Speaker 4 (06:16):
Oh yeah, I was gonna say, Boddy James. It's not
going anywhere, Mike, what this is? Oh you bet this
is more than a marathon, So strap in and enjoy
the ride. I gotta tell you. When I did the
show last night, Blake was getting on me. He's like,
I'm tired of this broddy James thing. I'm tired of this.
I just can't take it anymore. People are getting un hinged.

(06:36):
They're saying this, they're saying that.

Speaker 5 (06:38):
And as he's.

Speaker 4 (06:39):
Talking, Twitter is going berserk. It's coming in faster than
he can even say the words. That's all people wanted
to talk about. What was happening with Brody? Did he
deserve it that first game? Why did he play the
second game? Is he gonna play the Chi League? It's
amazing how many tweets we got last night.

Speaker 3 (06:58):
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(07:20):
way tire buying should be. In the end, the man
is a fifty to fifth pick in the NBA draft. Now,
if you're a Laker fan and you're upset with what
you've seen the last couple of years playing rounds early exits,
you know, Lebron and Ad staying healthy and still an
early exit, I understand you're signed up for another couple

(07:41):
of years with it. Lebron James signing the three million
dollars or thereabouts under the max, which keeps them away
from the second apron, which we know really limits your flexibility.
Freeze's draft picks and tray like, there's so much to
it that's been added, and it's an absolute mess. It's
part of the Paul George stuff that we'll talk about
as well, but it's the how unhinged everybody has gotten

(08:04):
about Brownie's path. In old, old you know line that
we've had forever from it was Kevin Durant who said,
you know, if you don't like it, don't watch. So
if it really irks you that much, and I get it,
you might have to put your purple and gold jerseys
and T shirts and everything. You know, maybe you put
a little bit of a veil over anything you've got

(08:25):
of Kobe and the Laker history and you go adopt
another team for two years because eventually Lebron's gonna go away.
If it offends you that much, that's all I'm gonna say.

Speaker 4 (08:34):
But go ahead, No, what is Michael, You know what
it usually comes to athletes, we can't go ahead and
you know, relate to what they do with the money
they make and stuff like that. But now we can relate.
We're talking about nepotism. We're talking about oh my goodness.
You know, here's a guy taking a spot that doesn't
deserve it.

Speaker 5 (08:52):
And a lot of people have dealt.

Speaker 4 (08:53):
With that when they had to go ahead and just
regular jobs. Whether it's the boss's son that gets a
job and gets promoted ahead of you, we all have
to deal with that in the regular well.

Speaker 3 (09:04):
But that but that was the point that I was
I made as we got started here. Arnie nepotism quote
the act of granting an advantage, privilege, or position to
relatives or friends in an occupation or field. And look
at our business. To use the term incestuous, Well, it
might be a little bit pointed and divisive, but it

(09:28):
is like everybody knows everybody. It's a small community. It's
growing because of the way podcasting in the interwebs and
all of this fun stuff have done. But in terms
of folks that have been really pointing their fingers and
getting truly unhinged about this stuff, Arnie, I'd like them
to all pause for a moment and think if they've

(09:49):
ever maybe made a phone call, maybe sent a text
or an email on behalf of someone you know, maybe
their kid, trying to help them, you know with the
college internship or something like that, or or maybe you know,
getting a friend a job, or maybe saying hey, you
know what you need you need some help well with

(10:09):
your weekend work again talking radio and television, uh specifically here,
maybe some newsprint along the way and websites. Uh. Then
every one of those people, uh, they should retract any
of those endorsements that they've ever made and just say,
you know what, forget I said anything, right, forget it,
because because it's the same thing. Right, if you've got

(10:30):
a position that you have earned with any kind of power,
clout whatever word you want to call it, and you
can help someone that you love or that is in
your life and try to give them a little bit
of a push. That's what everybody tries to do, right,
is that generally the way? So if Lebron James has
to that that that's gonna make him happy as a Laker.

Speaker 5 (10:52):
It's a difference, though, here's why is it a different?

Speaker 3 (10:55):
Look? You know, you don't own the team?

Speaker 4 (10:57):
Right?

Speaker 3 (10:58):
If Geni boss is okay with this again, be mad
at her, be mad at j Moore?

Speaker 4 (11:02):
Is Genie really okay with it? Or she just doing
it to appease Lebron? Is Genie really well? In the end,
she made a choice. Lebron James doesn't own the team
last I saw, you know at the bottom. Mind, it
really doesn't make that much of a difference. It's just
it puts a bad optic out there, Mike. That's the problem.
It's a bad opa.

Speaker 3 (11:19):
Why is it a bad optic? What's the difference? If
he doesn't make it. The guy that they drafted fifty
to fifth otherwise generally doesn't make it either. And I
know folks are going through and finding the twenty five
players that became All Stars be out of this late
second round or undrafted, and you can do that to
your you're blue in the face. On the grand scale,
those are still a very small percentage of the guys

(11:41):
being drafted in those slots.

Speaker 4 (11:42):
Right, I understand that, But you still want things fair
and fair now either do we use our influence? We
use our positions to maybe get somebody a job or
maybe get them an interview. Like I said, my son
was a goalie, but you you could only carry two goalies.
You can't say, well, can you carry him and he'll
be the backup. You don't get that kind of luxury.

(12:03):
I would never say put my kid on the team
if he didn't live up to par or deserve to
be on the team, I'd say, just give him a chance.
If he doesn't make it, he's not good enough, then
he's got to go ahead and move on to something else.

Speaker 3 (12:16):
Right, But that's really what this is. Right, they gave
him a four year deal. He's gonna make eight million dollars. Again,
not your money, not my money. Right, and if they
spent eight million dollars on him, and folks are saying
they circumvented the cap because he signed for less and
then he paid all this extra money to Bronny. Again,
I offer you a big hug if this really offends

(12:37):
you to that level, because it's again, it's if he
can play, he sticks, and you only have to go
through this two years, right, twelve years, I'm saying in theory,
the lebron James contract is two years.

Speaker 4 (12:53):
I'm not sure he's going to be on the starting
roster when the season starts. I'm not so sure that's
still gonna happen.

Speaker 3 (12:59):
Well, but that's but that becomes the larger thing. Right,
you played in the first game, and we could talk
about how well or he did or didn't play the
isolation play that got everybody mad about his defensive acumen.
And then he misses the second game and Summer League
begins in earnest on Friday. There's so much to go
with it, But you know, that's the first part of it.

(13:20):
From the nepotism side of thing. I hope everybody just
gets a little bit calmer in that regard again, thinking
of how they operate in their own lives of trying
to push folks through doors a little faster, because deciding
who deserves what is a very dangerous game to play.
He's already Spaniard at Stinking Genius one. I'm over at

(13:41):
Swollen Dome at Fox Sports right if you want to
jump in as well. Steph Curry making the rounds doing
some interviews as part of the men's national team pressers
as they get ready for international competition in warm ups
as well. And he's got some tongues wagon and do
some of that as well. Coming up next to you.

Speaker 2 (14:02):
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Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
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Speaker 3 (14:13):
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were interrupting our promo.

Speaker 2 (14:31):
Yeah, you wasn't talking about you. You took those clips
totally of context.

Speaker 3 (14:35):
Oh yeah, well after this promo, I'm gonna take you
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Speaker 5 (14:39):
Let me put this into context. Shut up.

Speaker 3 (14:42):
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Speaker 5 (15:09):
Hey, ready for full lineup? You got a full line up?

Speaker 3 (15:12):
Oh? Well, you know what, you gotta gotta keep it varied.
It'll be five very distinctly different shows. But I get
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Speaker 5 (15:22):
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Speaker 5 (15:34):
You want to work for him.

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(15:56):
That's expresspros dot com. Well, as we continue here, a
lot of NBA still still swirling out there. The most
of the free agent dollars have been spent in terms
of things that are gonna really move the needle and
get tongues wagging across our our airwaves, aren't he For
lack of a better term, but one of the things

(16:17):
that really was kind of interesting to me Steph Curry
kind of talking he and Steve kerrright, Kurry the coach
of your team USA, and had some your guy right
when we talk about you you're gonna do the Arizona
you know little sound effect, Hey guy, I knew we
could get you there? Is that you know, you say
goodbye to Clay, talk about statues and all of those,

(16:39):
And as we talked about at the end of the
regular season and into the playoff picture and where we're
at now, it's like you had to decide whether you're
gonna do the nostalgia tour or whether you're gonna move
on instead you bring in Buddy Healed and and try
to have this new iteration with Steph and Draymond in
their final years with the Warriors. But Steph making some

(17:02):
headlines today talking about I clearly can say that I
want to be a Warrior for life talking to Vince Goodwill,
It's always been my goal, and I'm saying, sitting in
the chair right now, this is what I want. Well,
here's the audio of Steph making his claim about his future.
You want to be that person that says I'm staying
with one franchise but my entire career or is it

(17:24):
just contingent upon where the franchise is.

Speaker 4 (17:27):
Yeah, I mean I can clearly say I want to
be a Warrior for life.

Speaker 6 (17:30):
It's always been my goal, and I'm saying that's sitting
in this chair right now.

Speaker 5 (17:36):
But like you said, life and.

Speaker 4 (17:39):
Especially life in the NBA, it is a wild environment
and things change quickly, and the league has changed quickly,
so we're trying to adapt and evolve.

Speaker 3 (17:50):
And yeah, so that I'll let everybody know if that changes.
But right which means that door is a jar. Immediately, Well, no,
but immediately in my ear, what did I get from
my executive producer, Jackson Crosberg, Hello, Lakers.

Speaker 5 (18:06):
Yeah, I.

Speaker 4 (18:08):
I already sent a text over to Mark Willard up
in San Francisco, going, he's gone.

Speaker 5 (18:14):
He's gone. Stop crying about it. He's gonna be gone
out there.

Speaker 4 (18:17):
Whenever somebody says, I want to be a so and
so for life, but life calls and you never know
what's going to happen. Pull that, you know, say that
to your wife and he goes, well, I want to
be married to you till I die, but you never
know which way life is going to drag me. No,
that that doesn't work. I could see what he's saying, though.

(18:38):
I can understand what he's saying, Mike, but I really
think at the end of his career he's going to
be gone. By the way, the Warriors should not have
let Klay Thompson go. He had called him up. I
guess the rumor was he was saying, I'll come back
for a two year, forty million, twenty million per I
know that Steph wanted him back. That's not a lot
of money, and plus he was probably gonna go m

(19:00):
off the bench. I'm surprised they didn't give him that
money for the two years. They must have really wanted
him gone, my friend.

Speaker 3 (19:05):
Well, but that becomes the question, right, like what's real?
What's imagined in terms of the dollars in size? Right
that that people are like, we'll get into Paul George
next hour, you know. And he tried to put some
specificity on it, and I don't think he made himself
look terribly great in terms of how he but look,
in the end, he ends up with a much the
extra year and another sixty million dollars. I might going

(19:27):
to fault a guy sixty to seventy when it's all said, none,
how do I fault a guy for that? But for
Steph Curry, it's also the I don't want to be
the bad guy. Is the way he's couched it here, right,
I want to be here for life. But more or
less says hey, that may not be my decision, when
it's also.

Speaker 5 (19:46):
What happened to Clay. If it could happen to Clay,
could happened to he.

Speaker 3 (19:50):
But you got to be a realist, right with Klay
Thompson where he was as a player. You know, we
talk a lot now about two way players and being
able to on the defensive end. And I'm not pretending
that that's what Steph Curry is. He gives you an
honest effort and leave it at that. But for Klay
Thompson that way. Look, he was a great shooter and

(20:10):
he was a great defender. Well he's not a great
defender anymore. The knee injuries, the leg injuries have robbed
him of that to where yeah, he can clamp down
for a bit, but not for the full forty eight
and certainly not eighty two times plus playoffs. I mean,
that's just not where he is physically. And the Warriors
did right by him. He got paid an exorbitant amount

(20:30):
of money and missed it a lot of time with
a super point. So I point you at some point
you got to decide. It's like, all right, do we
let it run its natural course, which is where it's headed.
And it's a nostalgia act where we're hopeful to be
at the back end of the playoffs hopefully or that
we're into the play in tournament and that's about as

(20:50):
good as it gets. And we've got to catch lightning
in a bottle and have all of these other guys
fall as if we're running around with voodoo dolls and
sticking pins in their legs and whatever else. They fall
one by one and the pathway to an NBA title
avails itself again, or we're gonna be realists that all right,
Stephan Draymond more or less can still do what they do, right, Draymond,

(21:14):
for all of the handwringing that goes along with him,
he's still a pretty damn good player on both ends
of the gay.

Speaker 5 (21:20):
Yeah, but they're stiff far away from winning a championship.

Speaker 3 (21:22):
There's no better than the way, right, But why are
you gonna bring back clay when that Well, because it's a.

Speaker 4 (21:27):
Two year deal, that's the first thing. I'm sure they
probably could have traded him after one, you know, mid season,
to a contender that wants to go ahead and make
a run at an NBA championship, So you probably wouldn't
have been on the hook for the full two years
out there. Plus, what's gonna happen when Steph Curry gets
a little bit older and he's going to demand the
fifty to sixty to seventy the eighty million per year

(21:50):
for a guy that's really not going to be producing
as much as he used to be. He has icon status,
kind of the way the way Kobe got some money
towards the end of his career. Sure, last two years,
you're gonna have to pay stuff that type of money.

Speaker 5 (22:02):
Are you gonna let him walk away? I'm not so
sure about that.

Speaker 3 (22:05):
Well, but that becomes organization to organization, right, Which owner,
governor whatever we're calling him these days, is willing to
do that? With Genie Buss and the Bus family, it's
still been important that you know, as much as we
deride it for running like a mom and pop, loyalty
still stands as one of the hallmarks. And that's part

(22:26):
of the Lebron James things like you brought him here,
you want to run it out, finish the job here,
and thinking that with a full season of health, a
little bit of luck dot dot dot Right, Well, yes,
obviously I'm talking that's you and me out here. Internally,
maybe they think they're closer than they are, right because

(22:46):
how many times did you hear, Hey, if Vincent and
Vanderbilt were healthy, those were two prime defenders, etc. Problem is,
you also got a year where your two ones who
have been hurt a lot, stayed healthy, you know, wondering
how that mixes the next year. I don't know, but
you've decided in Lake Up and Company, and you know,
dun Leavy Junior, you know, you decide at some point,

(23:09):
all right, is this what we want to do going forward?
Are we going to be that franchise that just says, well,
even if he's diminished skills, he's not hitting threes, can't
get himself opened the same way playmaking, et cetera. Are
we still going to be behold into paying that money
out because he wants to continue playing versus exiting stage
left gracefully. Well, we're still a couple of years from that.

(23:31):
The answer is, I don't know how their organizations, because
there's some organizations they're going to say, hey, we exhausted
all your utility. Beat it right.

Speaker 4 (23:39):
I'm not saying that the Lakers would have won a
championship last year, but I'm wondering how things would have
been different had they pulled out one, maybe both those
games against Denver that Denver hit on last second shots,
which were really those things that rarely happened.

Speaker 5 (23:52):
And they hit two in one series.

Speaker 4 (23:54):
I wonder how it would have played different had the Lakers
stole that or maybe even stole the series. What would
people would be saying about them and how close we'd
be saying they are to an NBA chap.

Speaker 3 (24:03):
But that's the thing, right, It's all all a game
of inches, and health comes in because how many people
derided the path that the Celtics took to get to
a time it was, or the Mavericks running from the
five seed on the other you know, watching you know,
injuries or guys that are tripping over their tongues because
they're tired, et cetera. I still blame Michael Finley for

(24:24):
it all. He hadn't taken away Luca's superpower of his beard,
his beer, you know, like Popeye with his spinach. When
he took away his beer when he was trying to
have a talk, I would have been salty. You e
masculated the guy. He earned that beer. Damn it.

Speaker 5 (24:41):
Well, drink into the locker room, not out in the hallway.

Speaker 3 (24:44):
Whatever series is over, you want to move on. He's
got a couple of days before he's got to, you know,
strap it back on. And then you saw what he
did against Greece right in the Olympic qualifier. He was terrible. Yeah,
it's terrible turnover count crept up. And now he goes
home and oh my goodness, it's their first Olympics since

(25:07):
two thousand and eight.

Speaker 4 (25:08):
Right, and he was just balling on the bench. He just,
you know, just couldn't help himself. I would love if
and I'm glad we have our full team out there.
But it doesn't seem like our uh, you know, our people,
the United Americans are into the Olympics like some of
the other countries, that's for sure.

Speaker 3 (25:25):
Well, it's it's a different it's a different animal, and
I think it's always been approached, at least from the
basketball side, a little bit differently. Right, going back to
ninety two and moving forward, now we'll just.

Speaker 5 (25:34):
See our group. We got the easiest group ever.

Speaker 3 (25:37):
Well, but that's the thing, right, it's all these.

Speaker 5 (25:39):
I could play and we can get through.

Speaker 3 (25:41):
I have seen you reign three pointers. I think that
footage is twenty years old, but yeah, exact, especially with
the size size of pieces of cake that you keep
showing that at your pregame training table.

Speaker 5 (25:53):
Twenty years Mike, it's in block and white.

Speaker 3 (25:57):
I think Vin Scully was calling it.

Speaker 5 (25:59):
My step so not good this year.

Speaker 4 (26:00):
I'm one from Vince Gully's dad was actually on going, Ah.

Speaker 3 (26:05):
Did you just say you one for nine?

Speaker 5 (26:07):
Yeah, one for nine.

Speaker 3 (26:08):
So now you've officially become a chucker.

Speaker 5 (26:11):
I gotta keep falling. I'm like, gotta keep.

Speaker 3 (26:13):
Shooting, shooter or shoot.

Speaker 5 (26:14):
That's what they do, That's what we do exactly.

Speaker 3 (26:16):
I mean, I know you're not playing a lick of defense.

Speaker 5 (26:19):
No, I have two blocks that leads the team.

Speaker 3 (26:21):
Come on, yeah, you caught up with two guys to
block their shot.

Speaker 4 (26:25):
You just sneak up behind them and you know, knock
it away when they go up.

Speaker 5 (26:29):
Not that tough.

Speaker 3 (26:30):
That's the footage I want to see Arnie on the
defensive end because I know that is actually drawing a
guffa A big laugh from our guy Steve to Saker.
Oh yeah, I'm as we go, but but just for
the finish, right, And I know this was reported reputable
reporters with the two year, forty million dollars deal that

(26:52):
you're doing, potentially having been offered to Klay Thompson. But
it's also you start wondering about whether there was a
fight about Roles.

Speaker 4 (27:01):
Yeah, he didn't want to come off the bed right right,
you're recognizing what you are at this point, right.

Speaker 3 (27:07):
Look, Dallas, Dallas from the five seed made their run
and decided they need to make another push. They went
for you know, with more money. Obviously we had the Lakers,
who are rumored to be with everybody. I mean, let's
face it, coming into free agency, and certainly in these studios,
I think a lot of guys on their shifts spend
a lot of time photoshopping players into Lakers jerseys to

(27:29):
see how they'd look if free agency and the you know,
some sort of gust of wind would to carry him
this way. But yeah, it's it's everybody wants the respect
of the dollars, There's no question about it. That's part
of it goes back again to Paul George and some
of the other free agency decisions that come out here,

(27:51):
and certainly for Klay Thompson, knowing that they'd taken care
of Draymond at twenty five per for four years that
he was you know, trying to say, while I'm part
of that that threesome, so I shouldn't be the odd
man out. But again, skill sets and moving forward and
I shows I think it shows great maturity for the
organization and people could say, well, you did the guy wrong,

(28:13):
And well no, they did him right, and they re
signed him after a bunch of injuries, right, right, right,
I didn't see I didn't hear anybody saying that when
he wasn't the same player necessarily for a good stretch
of that. And if we remember, the last time we
saw him was a big oh for ten.

Speaker 5 (28:28):
But Clay is salty. Though he is salty.

Speaker 4 (28:31):
He treated Draymont. They gave Draymont the contract. He felt
each of the gotten the contract.

Speaker 3 (28:36):
Well you go in order, and now is Clay's time
and guess what his time was up? And they've got
to make moves for the future. Right, whether you like
Buddy Healed or not, comes in He and Steph Curry.
You know, most prolific three point shooters the last couple
of years, right, I mean we've seen all those numbers
getting pushed around and all the boards are built. And look,

(28:59):
I understand Clay. I felt bad from Michael Thompson, right.

Speaker 4 (29:04):
Laker, I totally agree to become a Laker. What does
that say that his own father couldn't get him to
the Lakers. What does that say that everybody doesn't want
to play with Lebron?

Speaker 5 (29:15):
That's really what it is too.

Speaker 4 (29:17):
They don't want to go ahead and get involved with
what's happening in Los Angeles. The Lakers used to be
a must go destination. Now nobody wants to play with Lebron.

Speaker 3 (29:26):
Well, it's a difficult proposition because you're also looking at
it from the winning side. Because Buddy Heal said this too, right.
He was one of the big targets no no, but
but at the trade deadline the last couple of years,
and but he made sure to point out winning was
something that was important to him, right, And it seemed
like a little bit of a side eye toward Lakerland

(29:49):
when you go down that highway as well. And yes,
obviously you know we talk about sixteen trades and whatever.
As this all sorted out, you need a giant flow
chart to make it all work and to recognize the
dollars as they flow as well. But now it's time
to bring in a man who again, he knows all
about your shooting acumen. He knows about your yellow notebook pages.

(30:14):
It's Steve Disager at the News.

Speaker 6 (30:16):
Del The whole world knows about his shooting acumen because
the amount of videos for his basketball career that have
gone out to the world.

Speaker 5 (30:24):
I repeat yes.

Speaker 6 (30:25):
Artie Spanier, of course is as famous as any other
basketball player on the planet.

Speaker 5 (30:29):
We used to get more people watching the WNBA. Not
anymore though.

Speaker 6 (30:34):
WNBA, by the way, is off and it'll have just
one game tomorrow. Wait, you take advantage of the summer.

Speaker 3 (30:40):
By the way, the come in, especially when you're about
ready to take a month break.

Speaker 6 (30:43):
I was just gonna say, coming up on the what
is a week from Saturday they have that All Star Game,
which this year is a group of WNBA players against
the US Women's Olympic team. And then after that, Yeah,
it's it's all those weeks off. That league is going
to be after that sendoff game, off for about a month.
I'd mentioned over the weekend. Women's Soccer League NWSL is

(31:06):
now off for one and a half months. As for
the men's basketball team, you referenced that Luka Donsich is
not going to the Olympics this summer. Slovenia was eliminated
by Greece on Saturday in one of those qualifying tournaments
there were four of them this past week. Luka Donsiic
in that semi final they lost, had twenty one points
five assists and ten turnovers. They were down to Greece

(31:30):
by eighteen points after the first quarter, and as mentioned,
Giannis is going to the Olympics after his team won
that tournament final. They went four to zero at home
this past week. Puerto Rico got the last ticket in
yesterday beating Lithuania, and Puerto Rico goes into the USA group.
So team USA men's hoops, I gotta say first, they're
practicing in Vegas this week. Their first exhibition in Las

(31:53):
Vegas is on FS one Wednesday, US against Canada, and
then from Abu Dhabi exhibitions. On FS one it'll be
US against Australia and Serbia, which is notable because once
the Olympics themselves. Yeah, at the end of the month,
the US opener is against Serbia. We assume Jokic is
gonna play. I haven't seen that become official. We know

(32:14):
the US men's Olympic roster includes Lebron James and Anthony Davis,
Jason Tatum, Drew Holliday, Kevin Durant, Steph Curry, Joel Embiid
playing for the US this summer. Anthony Edwards, the self
proclaimed star and number one option on this team, Devin
Booker and others. And it's like these soccer tournaments that
you see where you're in a group with four teams,

(32:35):
so everybody's guaranteed three games, the US playing the three
other teams in its group for Serbia, then South sud An,
then Puerto Rico, and they take the top two teams
out of four and advance them even some of the
best third place teams. A couple of weeks of basketball
in France, and it all starts at the end of
the month. As for college hoops, the guy who's not

(32:56):
Lakers coach was in the news today. Connecticut gave Dan
Hurley at a six year contract where fifty million dollars
plus incentives. Hurley had rejected the Lakers six year, seventy
million dollar offer. Keegan Bradley will be the US Ryder
Cup captain next year. At Wimbledon, American Taylor Fritz upset
Number four Alexander Zverev in five sets after losing the

(33:17):
first two. Mike Carmon has no doubt missed Chicago White
Sox baseball. Oh yeah, they have come back to tie
it up at home against the Minnesota Twins. It is
six to six in the bottom of the eighth. The
White Sox currently with a record of twenty six and
sixty six.

Speaker 5 (33:33):
That's good.

Speaker 6 (33:33):
They'd given up four runs, given up the lead in
the top of the seventh, They have now tied it
in the bottom of the eighth. Also going Texas Rangers
going for a fourth straight win. They lead the Angels
in Anaheim seven to three in the bottom of the fourth.
Corey Seeger a long two run homer in the first
who went four hundred and fifty feet plus to center field.
Braves are leading one nothing at Arizona in the bottom

(33:54):
of the fifth inning. The other four games are finals
daytime victories for Saint Louis and Pittsburgh to Troit one,
it's fourth in a row, one nothing over Cleveland with
a run bottom of the eighth, and Cincinnati shut out
Colorado six nothing. The Rockies record is thirty two and
fifty nine and the Braves Marcelo Souno will be in
next week's home run derby along with Kansas City's Bobby

(34:14):
wit Junior.

Speaker 3 (34:15):
Back to you, thank you so much, Steve Desager at
the news desk. We've got Justin, We've got Alex making
us sound so pretty. Mike garving alongside the stinking genius himself,
Arnie Spanier in for Jason Smith. Thanks for giving us
a few minutes of your time as you get back
into the throes of life following the big long holiday weekend.
And coming up next, we'll go into my world, the

(34:35):
hobby that I run through, and I've got to issue
a big statement of denial after a two million dollars
heist was perpetrated this weekend. I didn't do it. I'm
going full Bart Simpson next here.

Speaker 2 (34:48):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific.

Speaker 3 (34:55):
Welcome back in Fox Sports Radio Jason Smith Show with
Me Mike Carmon, No Jason Tonight or this week all
star lineups starting with our guy, Arnie Spanier, I sticking
genius one. You hear him Sunday nights alongside Chris Plank,
who will join me on Friday. As we roll through
the week, and this one big story in the hobby world,

(35:17):
Arnie Spaniard. I saw this and people immediately going, Hey, Harmon,
where were you You were? Out of you know, out
of pocket. You kind of disappeared a bit and everything else.
And no, no, no, it's it's not me. I promise you,
my friends, my brother and I nothing. Dallas card Show
one of the biggest card shows that you dor buying, selling, training,

(35:41):
and the hobby doing very well right now, fanatics diving
in of course, Panini's still there in tops the hallmark
for baseball and a two million dollar theft occurred during
setup time, including six nineteen fifty two Mickey mantles. The
you know, hey, seventy thousand dollars reward is out there,

(36:04):
but the photos of the cards that are up there,
I mean, you want to talk about some of the
biggest things in the hobby history, from the early Willie
Mays cards, Hank Aaron's, the nineteen forty eight Satchel page,
tons of mantals, including as I said, six Rookies, one
of which has a price tag of one hundred and
seventy five kon Wow. Yeah, yeah, no, I mean we're talking.

Speaker 4 (36:25):
I saw the video, did they They said they distracted
the owners.

Speaker 5 (36:28):
That what happened to.

Speaker 3 (36:30):
Yeah, that's thing right during setup, you got a lot
of folks kind of wandering around. There's reports that you
had one guy that just kind of was stacking chairs,
so there was a bit of an assumption that he
worked there and was part of this crew that eventually
walked off with a case full of some of the
biggest cards in the in the game's history, because maybe

(36:51):
you go back training cards go back one hundred plus years.
I mean, we all know about the Honus Wagner famously
owned one of the copies Gretzki and McNall all those
years ago and all the way through, but the Mantle
being probably the most recognizable card in the hobby history
outside of that Honus Wagon. I mean, there's an early

(37:12):
Warren spawned Bowman card pictured, a couple of Babe roots,
some early Pete Rose and Clemente cards, old tobacco cards, aren'tie.
I mean, this is the stuff that when I go
to shows, I just sit there and I just you know,
I sit in awe in wonderment of those things. And
and somehow now that they've been thefted in the hard.

Speaker 4 (37:35):
Gotta be sick. That guy's got to be sick. Who
owned it, that just that got stolen from Well, there's.

Speaker 3 (37:40):
A lot of series that go well, but that's it, right.
The insurance, did they have enough security not just the
guy setting up, because if you're carrying that kind of inventory,
I would imagine you should I men just basic practice
that you'd have one or two security guards that you'd
pay extra at the facility.

Speaker 4 (38:00):
Or I'm always abased when somebody robs a museum and
just walks out with the painting, like, how does that happen?

Speaker 5 (38:05):
Where's the security?

Speaker 3 (38:06):
Well, sometimes because the paintings on the wall aren't the
actual paintings. Oh that's right, there's there's a bunch of
that going on stre of suddenly your kids knocking it
inim in the security guard doesn't seem terribly excitable, like
wait a minute, we're sorry, We're so sorry that whatever.
Ye like, oh that's not really the painting now, is
it sitting in somebody's villa in the south of France

(38:28):
or something like that. But with these, I mean you're
talking about cardboard gold. And the hard part is if
they've been graded, right, so one of the grading companies
PSA or SGC or Becket or whoever the case is,
it's slabbed and it's assigned a serial number, et cetera. Well,
there's also a way by which to get through those
slabs pretty quickly crack them out without damaging the card,

(38:51):
and then vallah, Now you've got a raw card going
back into the marketplace or perhaps in for grading, and
now it gets a new serially serial number, et cetera,
because distinguishing between them, especially back then like now, a
lot of cards are serially numbered that are being submitted, right,
so this one is numbered out of twenty five, this

(39:11):
is a one of one whatever, all the way up
into the hundreds and thousand, thousands, depending on the product
and the print run. But in this case, it's straight
out of you know, the old packs you bought at
the five and dime way back in the day, and
gets slabbed. I mean, there's no distinguishing marking. And yes
it's it could have a bend that is similar, but

(39:33):
trying to prove that it is in fact, it's going
to be impossible.

Speaker 4 (39:36):
You know. At first I thought maybe it was just
a theft of opportunity. That this seems more and more
like it was planned out though. Did they go after
this one guy? Did they know which cards they were
going after? Did they just say just whatever comes up,
take the big cards, let's run out.

Speaker 5 (39:50):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (39:51):
I can tell you this from being around these things forever.
You see the same dealers. Yeah, most of these big
shows right right, and the displays that the carrying with
them don't change terribly much. Show to show. Yeah, they'll
sell off some of the big cards. Guess what with
other big cards? Right, because if you're you're gonna pull
down one hundred and seventy five k for a mantle

(40:12):
that now gives you a liquid one hundred and seventy
five k to go find other mantles?

Speaker 5 (40:17):
Why have six of them?

Speaker 4 (40:18):
Though?

Speaker 5 (40:18):
Why not just one? When you sell that one, then
put out another case.

Speaker 3 (40:21):
They're all at different grades and different price points, right,
if you got different price points, like, say you go
to the store and look at your cakes, right, you
want a big one? You know, maybe you're paying forty
bucks for that full cheesecake. Maybe you just want to
slice three ninety nine different products for different price points.
I got the same thing at the card shop or
at the card show. But here it looks pretty targeted.

(40:43):
Two million dollars plus the inventory sick, we'll see why
I would develop summer wondering. You know, when insurance gets
involved in all of that. We've seen plenty of movies
about such chicanery in the past, ARN'TI Spaniard? No question
about it? At Stick and Genius one where you find
about Twitter me over at Swollen Dome coming out next. Hey,
a coach who said no to the Lakers got a

(41:05):
new contract today? What does it all mean in the
grand scheme?

Speaker 2 (41:09):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern seven
pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.

Speaker 3 (41:19):
Fox Sports Radio Jason Smith Show with Me Mike Harmon,
Jason Smith off this week, taking the pause before we
get into the throes of training camp in the beginning
of the National Football League campaign coming up in about
twenty minutes from now, we'll try to parse out whether
a coach can actually achieve a feat that he put

(41:39):
into the off season Hard Knocks machine. And let's face it,
my brain froze because I'm Mike, Yes, there is actually
a Hard Knocks off season program. Because until this story,
if you'd put a bunch of money in front of
me and said, hey, there's a team being featured on
the off season Hard Knocks, who is it? I would

(42:01):
have had to cry as that money was taken away
because I would have not earned it with this football.

Speaker 4 (42:06):
We talked a little bit about this last day. When
this football season start for you? Does it start now practice?
The first preseason game, the first regular season game?

Speaker 5 (42:15):
That first Thursday, you know which I mean?

Speaker 3 (42:18):
I got a month till hard Knocks with the Bears
begins right tomorrow. They'll give away tickets to their nine
public practices. Oh yeah, dialed I am dialed in. I
am back to home and you know there's anticipation in
Chicago for the first time in a long time.

Speaker 4 (42:36):
That's the season starts for me. That's when it starts.
The Hall of Fame game with the Bears play on
the Hall of Fame game. That starts everything off. Once
you get to that first game, it's football season.

Speaker 3 (42:46):
I know we got We get to celebrate Hester and
celebrate Steve McMichael, one of the greatest Bears and a
member you know form remember of you know, the four
Horsemen in the wrestling world. How about that look at
you pull it out. Oh we got more wrestling that'll
show up here in the show. Ut coming to the
top of the hour, we will talk about great heel

(43:06):
turns in sports and sports and entertainment history. But your guy,
to a tongue of I looa yeah, still put on
all these lists as one of the quote most underpaid
players in the National Football League, yet to earn his
new contract from your Miami Dolphins. And now I'll ask
that in a therapist kind of way, how does that

(43:29):
make you feel?

Speaker 5 (43:30):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (43:30):
You know, I want him to be the starting quarterback.
I think he deserves the money. I know they were
concerned about the injuries last year. He stayed healthy the
year before that. When he did get hurt, he was
leading in just about every offensive category before he went down.
Last year he was ahead and just about every offensive category.
I believe he had the most jardage in the NFL
in twenty twenty three. All about aside though he's earned it,

(43:53):
he deserves it. He's lost some weight, he's made some changes,
He's getting better every year.

Speaker 5 (43:59):
They have some ways around him. What are you gonna do?
Start freshco somewhere else? I mean, is there another quarterback?

Speaker 4 (44:05):
I'm not even sure that your Caleb Williams is gonna
be that, you know, everything in a bag of chips
like everybody's making them out to be.

Speaker 5 (44:13):
I don't want to it going anywhere.

Speaker 4 (44:15):
I can't understand why they just don't give him the
extension and get that thing signed sealed.

Speaker 5 (44:21):
The leverage.

Speaker 3 (44:21):
He did lead the league in yardage by what it
was it forty nine yards over Jared Goff. And then
he got Dak Prescott fresh out of his walking boot,
who's still looking for his big deal as one of
those big three.

Speaker 4 (44:36):
Now I'm not giving him the big deal. Now that's
a whole another story, but those are.

Speaker 3 (44:40):
Tied and inextricably linked. We talk about the revenue flowing
in the report that the NFL had a thirteen billion dollars,
we'll be extra billion will be distributed to all the
member teams, about four hundred million per off of the
national rights, and then eventually will wait for the reports

(45:01):
from the packers as to what they file in terms
of revenue, as they do have to publicly disclose. So
we get a little bit of a look behind the
curtain as to the economics of things. TUA last year
sixty nine percent completion rate, a career best forty six
hundred passing yards, two touchdowns per pick twenty nine to fourteen.

(45:21):
And you know, anybody wants to do all their key
quarterback rating and what have you have at it? It's
all about health and what's replacement cost? You know, do
you decide is Mike McDaniel and company that you can
go find someone and it becomes the Johnny Bravo Brady
Bunch thing because I got to appeal to everybody of
all ages. Here. We got the swifties and then we'll
go back to the sixties and seventies with some television

(45:45):
and music references when you say, hey, is it just
someone who fits the suit? And then you've got enough
weaponry at the running back position, which there they've got
great depth this year, and you start talking about the
wide receivers that are in tow that. It's just a
plug and play kind of situation as you see with quarterbacks.
You know, part of it is the the organization, I

(46:06):
think is the gonna be the biggest part of all
of it. No matter how talented a guy is. I mean,
just go back to the draft class a couple of
years ago. Trevor Lawrence got his money. He's the only
guy still on the original team drafted him out of
those five, right everybody else has moved on and is
either begging to stay in the league, or battling for
a backup role or in a case like justin fields.

(46:26):
Not only is it a look how hard I am
and how you know yoked I am in the gym
as I stare at the camera, but trying to fight
down Russell Wilson to win that starting job. And you know,
we'll we'll let that parse out as it goes forward.
But finding a quarterback to Fitch Right the bears, Waldron
eber Flu's stay of execution, right the defense Rallied Montes,

(46:50):
Sweat comes over. They're a great unit. You made a
lot of changes offensively. Bring in Swift, bring it see
it goes back to Swift. You bring in Gerald Everett,
you bring in Keenan Allen, Roma Dunze alongside Dj Moore
and on paper with gold Comet and everything else that's there.
You say, all right, this is you know, you're really
ready to go. Well, here's the problem. Packers are good.

(47:10):
Lions are good in Minnesota, assuming that they get any
kind of quarterback play from Darnold or McCarthy. They're a
pretty good roster. So it's not like you're gonna suddenly
run up. But you were a seven win team a
year ago, So now it's just trying to win one
or two of those close games, maybe find yourself into
the playoffs. So yes, National radio host me says, yeah,

(47:33):
they they should be a wildcard team. If not, they.

Speaker 5 (47:35):
Should they shouldn't be. No exactly dision.

Speaker 3 (47:39):
But if they're not a wildcard team, it's a fail
based the overhaul of that roster and what they brought in.

Speaker 4 (47:45):
Mike, they have to beat a Detroit team all of
a sudden, Detroit is such juggernuts that they can't be beaten.
They've won twelve games. They may be just a one
hit wonder. Let's see if they're really gonna go ahead
and keep like this for another year. The Packers with
Jordan Love, I mean, are we sure that Jordan Love
is the next best thing?

Speaker 3 (48:02):
Well, you know, I needed because for the last four
years I might have been the only national guy standing
there with the Jordan Love flag saying this was the
right move to do. But even going back to draft,
I defended him.

Speaker 5 (48:15):
Then that's fine. He had a good year last year.

Speaker 4 (48:18):
But I mean the way people are talking about it,
they're like, oh, this he's done. He's great. Now, he's
he's gonna be leading them deep into.

Speaker 3 (48:24):
The But you know why, Arnie, look at look at yeah,
but look at the state of quarterbacking. Right. You brought
we brought.

Speaker 4 (48:31):
Up the case why I want to stay that But that's.

Speaker 3 (48:34):
But but that's that was my circuitest way of getting
back to that words that that was my way of
bringing us back all the way around. You know, as
I say, hold on a second, cul de sac. Let
me bring you back over here to the other other
end of the circle. Is that when you've got a
guy that has shown you the ability that Tua has.

(48:54):
And yes, injury histories are there, but guess what, that's
the quarterback position. That's the National Football League. One player
can alter everything, right, And coming off of last year,
I think you've got to feel pretty good about where
you're at. And the longer you wait to pay a
guy you want to go down the franchise tag thing.
That's fine for Tua. I mean, and I know guys

(49:16):
get mad about it. You're still getting in the average
at the top five salaries, so you can only cry
so much.
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Crime Junkie

Crime Junkie

Does hearing about a true crime case always leave you scouring the internet for the truth behind the story? Dive into your next mystery with Crime Junkie. Every Monday, join your host Ashley Flowers as she unravels all the details of infamous and underreported true crime cases with her best friend Brit Prawat. From cold cases to missing persons and heroes in our community who seek justice, Crime Junkie is your destination for theories and stories you won’t hear anywhere else. Whether you're a seasoned true crime enthusiast or new to the genre, you'll find yourself on the edge of your seat awaiting a new episode every Monday. If you can never get enough true crime... Congratulations, you’ve found your people. Follow to join a community of Crime Junkies! Crime Junkie is presented by audiochuck Media Company.

24/7 News: The Latest

24/7 News: The Latest

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Stuff You Should Know

Stuff You Should Know

If you've ever wanted to know about champagne, satanism, the Stonewall Uprising, chaos theory, LSD, El Nino, true crime and Rosa Parks, then look no further. Josh and Chuck have you covered.

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