July 10, 2024 • 54 mins
Mike Harmon and Rich Ohrnberger weigh in on Joe Burrow’s comments on an 18 game NFL season. Oklahoma State head coach Mike Gundy elaborated on why he didn't suspend Ollie Gordon despite his recent DUI arrest. And the guys celebrate the 20th anniversary of the original 'Anchorman' debuting in theaters. Plus, a visit from MLB Insider Jon Paul Morosi!
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Speaker 4 (01:08):
What's going on buddy.
Speaker 5 (01:09):
Things are good, dude. You know we're we're doing the
summer thing. The Ormburger household was a little restless, so
we went out to Hawaii for a week.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
We did that.
Speaker 5 (01:20):
We got an East coast travel planned, and then, like
everybody else across the country, we do lock it in
for the preseason and we we wait by the hearth
for the NFL season to come.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
That's you got the hearth in very early, nicely done.
That's right.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
Yeah, it's all our vocabulary words. Generally, what you and
I do is we try to stack up our five
dollars words to justify me the cost of Northwestern and
you giving up your body and sacrificing for Penn State.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
That's right. That's right. So that's where we're at.
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you know, as you know I'm watching a lot of
you know, Euro twenty twenty twenty four. We just had
the Copa America game just went final with Argentina and
a win and Messi finally scores a goal. You know,
I did this a little with Arnie Spanier. But you know,
you're a man who loves, you know, all sporting events,
especially when you're trying to find some Betty angles for
(02:34):
the shows on the weekend as well as I went
and took in some Gaelic football.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
I was in Ireland two weeks ago, so you know,
a little bit of chaos and they actually had a
situation whereby they were attending to an injured player on
the field and played continued.
Speaker 4 (02:50):
It's one of the greatest things I've ever seen.
Speaker 5 (02:52):
It's amazing how how different areas of the country root
on their sports. Like the first time I experienced soccer
stateside was at a New England revs. Game the Revolution,
who played at Jiled Stadium, sharing the field that we
played on when I was with the Patriots, and it
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was sparsely attended, not a lot of people around, you know,
so sit but standing field side and watching these athletes,
you know, a whole new appreciation for the sport. Then
after that time, I probably didn't see a live soccer
event until the inaugural LAFC season, And much like you,
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just the pomp and circumstance around soccer now, I never
experienced it in Europe. I've never been to Ireland as
a matter of fact. But in the stands during this
LAFC game, they had a giant bass drum they were
banging on, they were setting off smoke bombs everywhere. It
was like nothing I had ever seen. And I was
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paying more attention to the crowd than it was that
actual pitch or the field or whatever.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
They call it. It was unbelievable.
Speaker 5 (04:04):
It was, I mean, it's it's just a completely different
environment than watching an American football game.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
Any any piss bags or batteries in the crowd?
Speaker 5 (04:14):
As a matter of fact, I didn't see any piss bags.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
I saw no batteries.
Speaker 5 (04:18):
I did see a bald man with his shirt off
get more and more inebriated until he fell asleep on
top of the woman standing.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
In front of him.
Speaker 5 (04:28):
Okay, he was dragged out of there, but it was
But other than that, yeah, nothing out of the norm.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
No, that's some next level stuff.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
I mean for all, for all of the you know,
excitation and a fifty thousand person crowd for this for
this matchup that I was watching Galway and Dublin.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
Really not a lot in the crowd, do you know.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
A lot of positivity and a lot of kind of
quiet observation of what was going on. Not a lot
of screaming and chaos. I mean you had more of
that down in the tunnel trying to get towards the
beer and the concession stands because there was nothing actually
in the stadium. Two thirty five minute halfs very fast moving,
but you know, the level of violence was immense, which
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was great on the pitch, I should say, so you know,
it just kept the line moving. So it was a
nice experience there overseas, and it's good to be back
in the throes of all of the chaos. Ahead of
the beginning of training camp, we got the Hard Knocks
story of all stories, because we all want to challenge
(05:27):
our athleticism, so we'll do that because there is off
season Hard Knocks. We're less than a month away from
the Bears being featured, and right now, if you were
to call it a stock, I think it would be overweighted.
With the number of people that have jumped on board
the Bear's bandwagon. But we'll get into that a little
more in earnest as we go on. As I mentioned,
watching a lot of Copa America and the euro twenty
(05:51):
twenty four, and here here's just a great stat. As
we get jumping off, we've got the Mike Gundy, what
the hell are you doing? Quote of the day coming
up in about fifteen minutes. But Linol Messi scored his
first goal of the tournament tonight. In two thousand and seven,
he scored his first career goal at Copa America. Earlier,
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Spain beat France to advance and Bape had a chance
in the eighty fifth minute defender on his heel and
he ended up sailing it about twenty feet over the crossbar.
So failed by one of the big names. But a
guy named Jamal who's sixteen years old. Rich sixteen years old,
he scores his first Euros goal. Yeah, at this time
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that Messi was scoring his first career goal at Copa America,
Jamal was being born.
Speaker 4 (06:41):
So there you go. Crazy.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
It's a crazy world that we're living in because we're
talking about forty year old Lebron James, his kid coming
into the league, and all of that fun stuff as
we go on. But we're gonna get started with Joe
Burrow back in the News saying he wants all the smoke,
he wants all the attention because hey, you forgot about me,
Right he's with M and M dropping his new album
(07:04):
on Friday. It's only appropriate, right, forgot about dre Same
thing here, Joe Burrow saying, Hey, I'm gonna give people
something to talk about. Channeling a little what is that
early nineties Bonnie ray It.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
Yeah, while he's at.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
It, how about that leaving no musical stone in pop
culture reference on turned But he's got a couple of things.
He was on the Pardon My Take podcast and he
started talking about the schedule and the inevitability of the
eighteen game.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
Coming to this to the NFL.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
Right, we've got that big direct TV lawsuit thing going
on that's gonna cost him a lot of money, and
you know, really kind of funny how it equates to
the amount of money that was gonna be split nationally
from the revenue of the National Football League. It's really
crazy how that works in terms of penalties and all
that fun stuff. When you parse it out. But he's saying, Hey,
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if we're going to do an eighteenth game, then we
wanted a second bye week, and he's already mapped it out.
How about a buy in week thirteen to where you know, hey,
we'll do the Pro Bowl there, which is kind of
silly because the Pro Bowl in the middle of season.
Who the hell's participating unless you're gonna go shuit up
Barry Sanders a bunch of legends.
Speaker 5 (08:16):
But Mike, nobody, nobody is participating in the Pro Bowl
right now. It's a two hand touch football game. It's
a glorified you know, attendance.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
Roll call, No, that's it, show up, wave your little cab,
let your sponsor money, sign a couple of autographs, take
a couple of pictures, and run off the field. So
like the whole concept at this point, it's like hard
knocks for me as well. It's like, I guess it's
a necessity for the job that I've got to pay
attention to.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
It to a degree. But if it went away, I
don't think i'd miss it.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Not a lot of people in your life, right they go,
oh you remember that guy, Yeah, I guess, okay, cool,
Moving on, same thing here the Pro Bowl.
Speaker 4 (08:58):
Look, a lot of folks still want to watch and
bet on it.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
But moving it into season, man, you want to talk
about zero participation? Are you gonna play it as a
video game?
Speaker 4 (09:07):
I waffle back and forth. I really do like, you know,
so the Pro Bowl it listen.
Speaker 5 (09:13):
I do not get much enjoyment out of the Pro Bowl,
And frankly, I really never did when I was growing up.
I was more of a basketball All Star Game fan.
I didn't really love baseball growing up. That was a
taste I acquired as an adult. Actually, that's when I
fell in love with baseball as a fan and with football.
(09:34):
The Pro Bowl it just sort of seemed silly, like
I don't know why, even as a kid, like I
was like, what is this game for? And the answer
to that question was, well, for bragging rights, I guess it.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
Just kind of like take care of the sponsors, yeah,
and showcase Hawaii and take their tourism off, you know,
advisory board dollars, right.
Speaker 5 (09:55):
And the players they they clearly did not want to
be there, you know, the the and I don't I
don't mean that because they do want to win Pro Bowls.
They want to have their names attached to that recognition because,
like you just said, that is a great way to
market yourself. Obviously, when your legacy is being totaled after
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your career is over, if you're so lucky to be
considered for all Hall of Fame bid there are voters
who care how many times you were named to these lists,
And I'm not exactly sure why because these lists are
subjective anyways, So if you are voting on a Hall
of Fame candidacy, why you would lean on other people
to advocate for players instead of doing your own advocacy
(10:41):
is ridiculous to me. But that's a different, you know,
debate for a different day. But yeah, in terms of
like having a mid season Pro Bowl break like the
NBA does, like we're coming up on in Major League Baseball,
I don't think I would be tremendously opposed. You know,
if we expand the season to eighteen games, I do
think I think a second bye week would be necessary.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
Anyways, Wait, that roster expansion or two things that you
definitely have to look.
Speaker 5 (11:07):
At, you know, and then the other thing you'd have
to look at in terms of contracts, like you know,
now you go in the span of potentially six years,
ten years, whoever, you know, whatever it is, you expand
by two games. You know, it's almost like imagine your
boss walking into your office and saying, hey, buddy, you're
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doing a great job around here. We're making tremendous amounts
of money, and incrementally your salary is going to increase. However,
we're gonna have you work an extra hour and twenty
minutes every single day.
Speaker 4 (11:41):
And you say, oh, okay, well I'll be paid for that, right, No, no, no, no,
you're not going to be paid for that.
Speaker 5 (11:48):
Wait, so I gotta work instead of eight hour days,
I gotta work nine hour twenty minute days, and I'm
not going to be paid anything more. Yeah, no, no, no,
you're not gonna get paid anymore. And as a matter
of fact, we're thinking about increasing that in a couple
of years, and you're not gonna get a single dime
more upfront by comparison to how much more you're working.
You're just gonna have to deal with those incremental raises, uh,
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every year, just like you always had.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
Well, what what sense does that make? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (12:15):
I don't think it'll we'll ever get there where these
these uh, these these contracts, these current NFL contracts will
ever be recalibrated when they add games, because I'm I'm
imagining you would have to have a labor stoppage in
order for the owners to you know, bend the knee
to the players.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
In that way.
Speaker 5 (12:34):
But you get into this, this discussion, this debate about fairness,
about player safety, about the tradeoff. You know, yeah, the
NFL is going to make a lot more money, and
ipso facto, the players are gonna have a larger cut
of the broadcast revenue, but they're not going to get
it immediately, just like they didn't win they expanded the
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league to seventeen game seasons.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
Yeah, that's the thing, rich, right is And and you
know this from the your years as working in the
league and as a player, how much information flows through
a locker room or doesn't through your player representative?
Speaker 4 (13:11):
Right?
Speaker 3 (13:11):
Some are good, some are really great at it, and
some it's kind of like, all right, well here's the link,
get after it, and there's not a lot of discussion.
And as a player's association, and look, I've been vilified
many a time by folks I've done shows with and
maybe you'll hate me too. Generally they go for the
lowest hanging fruit stand in right, because you have such
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a great large gradient and so many different slices. You know,
you and I love to cook, so right, the stuff
that's well done on the edges versus a little pinker
and rare.
Speaker 4 (13:44):
In the middle.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
Right, if you've got a nice roast going on, in
terms of your cook time and what you need to
do with it, it's the same thing with the players that
now making guys actually meet. So maybe not the best analogy,
but for the purposes of this, you know, it's a
slab of beef. So it's the idea of Hey, the
quarter are up here. Their concerns at fifty million dollars
a year are a lot different than most of the roster,
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which are just trying to hang on and get another
check and another year towards vesting, towards retirement benefits and
whatever else. Right, So when it's being parsed out of all, right,
here's everything we got to fight about. You know, you've
got different stratas of where people's concerns are really pressing, Right,
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And the big guy and the forty million dollar a
year player doesn't always look out for the interest of
the guys on the back end of the roster.
Speaker 4 (14:36):
That are what eighty percent of.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
The roster right in terms of how much you know,
we're talking about guys and what they make and their longevity, right,
the average career being a shade over three years, and
that includes a very long tail of guys with a
cup of coffee.
Speaker 4 (14:53):
It's amazing.
Speaker 5 (14:55):
How if you pay the massive majority of players better
you know who make up Like you said that eighty
percent of players who are making in that minimum range,
you're going to swing the vote in your favor if
you're the owners. They figured that out years ago. They're
going to keep banging that drum. And as a result,
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you know, if they do expand the league to eighteen
game regular seasons, which I imagine they will, well it's
not going to change anything contract wise, but I do
think there will be roster expansion. Like you mentioned, I
do think an additional bye week is a necessity, and
there will be probably some other accommodations made along the way.
Speaker 4 (15:37):
And to be.
Speaker 5 (15:37):
Perfectly honest with you, from a fan perspective, as long
as it.
Speaker 4 (15:41):
Doesn't dilute the product, as long.
Speaker 5 (15:44):
As it still remains an urgent regular season, I'm not
gonna mind.
Speaker 4 (15:48):
In fact, the more football the better, No a percent.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
The hard part to it is where they have gotten concession.
The pass is where they've you know, hey, we're going
to have fewer practices. Sure this So the game actually
does suffer in some respects at least a lot of
times in the early September outings that we see going
for plenty more on this and others. Rich Hornberger our
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to walk it back. Don't think that worked. We'll sort
it all out here next.
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with Me by Carmen No Jason Smith. This week all
star parade of legends coming through here. Rich Hornberger in
the chair today with us. Got our guys Alex Tye Shir,
Justin Frossberg and Brian Finley up on the updates today.
One of the stories that hit the headlines today, Rich,
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I had to read it a couple of times and
then when the audio surfaced, well you played it a
couple of times to say is this AI generated or
is this for real? My Gundy Oklahoma state coach, remember
once upon a time, I'm a man. You know, he
had a well a bit of a controversial statement would be, well,
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perhaps an understatement of it. Oli Gordon the second he
had Big twelve Media Days going on on June thirtieth,
tulsa suspicion of a dui. He will not miss game time,
according to Gundhy, for it, he blew a point one zero,
so narrowly over the legal limit. Right now we get
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into semantics, and after looking it up the metric, well,
Gundhy decided to be super sleuth. Yeah, so obviously at
Il and all that talking about money to be made,
Gandhi would go on to say the punishment would be,
I don't know, give him fifty carries.
Speaker 4 (18:46):
He later tried to walk this back after.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
Saying, you know, it's a decision I've probably made a
thousand times. Hang a star on that one quote. My
intended point today at Big twelve Media Days was that
we are all all guilty of making bad decisions. It
was not a reference to something specific. He says he
considers the matter settled. But trying to walk back the
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statement of probably done that a thousand times, you know,
not get away with that one, Mike Gandy. Yeah, and
right now you've got a lot of folks targeted because
we are in that that quiet time right where we
look for those stories and and coaches and administrators from colleges,
high schools all the way up through the pros they
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don't want their phone to ring. We had that at
the accident over the weekend, killing three young men, a
draft pick this year and his high school teammates. All
of that that we're talking about, you know, that time
of year where the worst comes out. And from Mike
Gundhy to make light of it with a flippant remark,
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I mean, you're you're talking about a guy that it
is going to be watched at every turn going forward.
Speaker 4 (20:04):
So I'm thirty eight years old.
Speaker 5 (20:06):
When I was in high school, a show debuted on
Comedy Central called Chappelle's Show, and it was Dave Chappelle,
who's a stand up comic and you know, oftentimes is
considered controversial for things he says and.
Speaker 4 (20:20):
Writes jokes about.
Speaker 5 (20:21):
But it was widely regarded as one of the funniest
sketch shows around.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
No question about it. Still quoted oftentimes, or maybe a
little less in the hallways than it used to be.
Speaker 4 (20:33):
But.
Speaker 5 (20:35):
Well, yeah, I'm going to quote it right now. Sometimes
keeping it real goes wrong. And this is a sterling
example of when keeping it real goes wrong, because that
was one of the sketches they did, and it was
those intrusive thoughts that you know, they're supposed to be
inside thoughts.
Speaker 4 (20:56):
They're supposed to be things that maybe even take with
you to the grave.
Speaker 5 (21:00):
Mike Gundhy, You're not supposed to say all of the
things that the little Mike Gundhy voice inside of your
head says to you.
Speaker 4 (21:09):
Some of those things you just they just only those.
Speaker 5 (21:12):
Those are yours, Those are all for you, and you
don't tell a single person.
Speaker 4 (21:17):
Now. Am I advocating for anybody drinking and driving? Obviously not.
Speaker 5 (21:22):
Do I think it's smart that he's made that decision
a thousand times in the past. Obviously not. But when
you are the head football coach, or when you are
the CEO, or you're the President of the United States,
or you hold a high ranking position in some you know,
government branch or military or what have you, you have
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to have better sense than to keep it that real.
Speaker 4 (21:51):
And listen, this is coming from somebody.
Speaker 5 (21:54):
Who hates inauthenticity, Like I really I like it when
I feel like I'm being lied to sure, but you
can not keep it that real and also be authentic
and honest, like he could have addressed this by saying, listen,
my player's a young man, and as we all know,
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young men sometimes make mistakes. He's shown contrition. We're upset
about this. He's upset about this, and we're going to
work through it with him because we believe in him
as a person and we see the light at the
other end of the tunnel already and we know he's
going to put in the work to improve his situation.
Speaker 4 (22:38):
And that's where you leave it.
Speaker 5 (22:39):
And guess what, you're not lying to anybody, but you
know what, you're not admitting to committing a crime a thousand.
Speaker 4 (22:46):
Times over time of your player.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
But one of the crimes that, let's face it, you
know in the news and when we go through it
that it's so a right. There's a million services by
which these days, you know a quick you know, three
clicks of you on your phone and you're done. Look,
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if he can do legal stuff, I can tell you
how to get an app and get the app, uh
and call for a ride to come get you where
you need to go. Not to mention that in a
lot of circumstances. Certainly at the pro level, you've got
people on staff that that's part of their job, right
for your well being as a player. And I'm guessing
more and more colleges implementing, especially in this new day
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and age of nil and other benefits that players are receiving.
That means there's also more people from the administrative side
to make sure that everybody is protected, everybody's mind in
their p's and q's and things of this nature.
Speaker 5 (23:47):
And see that that is the whole story right there.
So the two biggest things about this story that stick
out the most to me is student athletes are going
to be held to a much higher standard than they
ever have before, because it's less emphasis on student and
more emphasis on athlete now that they're being paid like
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professionals at the collegiate level. And the more and more
those dollar bills expand and the more sourced reports about
how much these star players are getting paid at all
these different universities, there's going to be a lot less
interest in giving these giving excuses.
Speaker 4 (24:26):
Well, yeah, you're not a Ken anymore. Yeah, exactly right,
you're a professional.
Speaker 5 (24:30):
And by the way, there are eighteen year olds who
are across the world from their families fighting for this country.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
That was the argument I always made back in the
Mike Williams, Maurice Colerett and whatever else, like, if some
team wants to take a shot on a guy, why
do we protect the teams from themselves?
Speaker 5 (24:47):
And then the other part of this is so yeah,
like you said, the accountability is going to be more
so on the players than ever before.
Speaker 4 (24:53):
Nobody can cry poverty.
Speaker 5 (24:55):
Hey, you know I didn't have any money in my
account to call an uber. It's like, oh, yeah, you
didn't have any money in your count after getting the
couple hundred thousand dollars endorsement deal from the car dealership
or from Jimmy Johns, or from you know, whatever it
may be. And then you know, let's let's also include
in this nightmare of a situation for this collegiate program
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the fact that Mike Gundhy, who's supposed to be the
liaison between your players and the general public, stepping in
it so royally, Like I mean, he took a bad
situation and he made it several magnitudes worse.
Speaker 4 (25:33):
In a million times worse. It's insane.
Speaker 5 (25:35):
So it's like, the accountability is going to be more
so higher and higher on the player side for making
these dumb decisions, because they're going to be treated more
like professionals than like amateurs, more so than ever before.
Speaker 4 (25:47):
And then on top of it.
Speaker 5 (25:48):
You're going to have to have coaches smart enough not
to make the bad thing worse when the media comes
sniffing around.
Speaker 4 (25:57):
Saying, hey, what's going on? Why was you're playing a
drunk tank with the dwie last night?
Speaker 5 (26:03):
Oh he's not doing anything I wouldn't do. Wait what
that's how you're handling this, Mike, right, I mean what
is going on?
Speaker 4 (26:11):
Right?
Speaker 3 (26:11):
You're saying I've done this a million times and look
and by the grace of God, I'm here.
Speaker 4 (26:15):
Tada. No, that's not the way this works. I'll tell
you what.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
It's an abhorrent thing to it to admit to. And
look again, many people across our globe, right we're global
here on the iHeartRadio app can say, okay, I've done
that before, or maybe you know, I had a scary situation,
maybe I survived a terrible situation, whatever you know somewhere
on that continuum. But for for Gundhy to kind of
(26:40):
throw out the thousand times like to your point. You're
the CEO of this operation, right, talk about the learning,
talk about whatever measures he's got to do in the community,
you know, and as an organization, we can't stand like
because he wasn't contact if this isn't a phone call
twenty minutes after the incident to where you've got to
respond to something, Come.
Speaker 4 (27:02):
On, Gundy, has it done that? Yeah, Gundy, Gundy wasn't.
Speaker 5 (27:05):
Yeah, this wasn't He was dragged out of bed, shaken,
awake and foisted in front of a camera fifteen minutes
after finding out the news.
Speaker 4 (27:14):
You're absolutely right.
Speaker 5 (27:15):
Yeah, let me ask you this question because I haven't
seen the video yet. I just heard the audio that
we played here. Did he did he put his mullet
on backwards? Did he have the party in the front
and the business in the back? Maybe that was the problem. No,
I understood all.
Speaker 4 (27:29):
I'm just making sure you because sometimes you know, like
you know.
Speaker 5 (27:32):
Sometimes the party speaks first and then you know, the
business side it gets like, you know, you got to
make sure you wear.
Speaker 4 (27:37):
Those mullets so that you got to keep them on straight.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
Of course, it's it's funny you say that, because we'll
we'll talk about Mullet Night as a as an event
as we go forward, because you do have minor league
teams that celebrate the mullet like no other and every
year they get after it the Blue Wahoo's So there
you go. It's uh, you you ever try that look?
(28:01):
It's a look because it's coming back a little bit,
which is really kind of frightening.
Speaker 5 (28:05):
I was a kid and I had a buddy at
school who wore a mullet.
Speaker 4 (28:11):
His name was Glenn and Glenn.
Speaker 5 (28:13):
Dude, Glenn, if you're still around, buddy, you know who
I'm talking about.
Speaker 4 (28:16):
We're in Miss super Wow. If you're still around, you
went that. That went that far? Well not if you're listening.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
So what you're saying is the bullet was one of
many bad decisions. Yeah, you're privy to in the life
of Glenn.
Speaker 5 (28:28):
Well, me and Glenn and Miss Soulet second grade class
we did. We did some crazy stuff thousands of times.
So it's you know, who knows where he's at in
life now. But but but I remember he had this mullet.
I mean it was sharp, man, his parents did it right,
and uh, and I went. I went to the Lemon
Tree barber shop in Long Island, New York with my mom.
It was haircut day. All three of us were going
(28:50):
to get in the chair, and when it was my turn,
I said, I want to short in the sides. I
want a short on top, and I want a long
in the back. And my mom, I mean when I
I say, she dove in the way of the scissors
like she was like she was secret service protecting a
high ranking delegate.
Speaker 4 (29:08):
It was unbelievable.
Speaker 5 (29:10):
She was like, absolutely not not in my household. So no,
the closest I ever got was was, you know, maybe
maybe two feet away from having the first of my
golden locks, uh trimmed at a barber shop.
Speaker 4 (29:25):
But yeah, never never wore a mullet.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
Now that's funny as hell. Frostburg's admitting that he hated
wore one for a summer full summer.
Speaker 4 (29:31):
Rich dude, Yeah, I mean, was it the summer of
love shops?
Speaker 5 (29:34):
I mean, honestly, wait, look, and I know you spoke before,
I mean, what was it was?
Speaker 4 (29:41):
It just was the phone tracking was glorious mode. Yeah, yeah,
I understand, I seen the pictures. No, I was scared,
bring him in, bring him in? Well, yeah, what about you?
I mean the twer Ty Shirt. I mean, I mean
he's got a glorious head of hair. You don't let
us right now? Yeah, and he's rocking a mustag like
dash too. I haven't.
Speaker 3 (30:01):
It's like he's gone and watched all. I think he
went and saw Maxine and he was inspired.
Speaker 4 (30:06):
I'm scared he's gonna pull me over. I need Ty
should have sent me a selfie immediately. I am a
fan of a good mustage as this is some next
level stuff.
Speaker 3 (30:16):
I mean the hair is flowing, slick back a little bit,
and then he's got the mustache going.
Speaker 4 (30:21):
Yeah. Yeah, that's a handsome boy too.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
Powerful and attractive men, there's no question about it. He's
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Speaker 2 (31:34):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern seven
pm Pacific.
Speaker 3 (31:42):
Hey, welcome back in Fox Sports Radio Jason Smith's Show
with Me Mike Harmon, Rich Hornberger in for Jason Smith tonight.
Our all star crack team is assembled and I saw
notice earlier today in my socials. Rich, you know how
much I going to the movies and celebrating movies, and
(32:03):
we bring pop culture into the show all the time,
you and I randomly quoting like you know, little kids
lines back and forth. I mean, that's just what we do.
And I hope I never grow up. It's one of
those songs, right, I hope you never grow up, Hope
you stay this little It's a whole Taylor Swift thing.
I'm kind of that same thing. But I saw that
(32:24):
Christina Applegate posted that in her latest episode of her
podcast that she had Will Ferrell stop by and they
started talking about Anchorman, which was officially released twenty years
ago today. Yeah, and you know, really it really yawged
(32:45):
my memory when we started talking about Ty Shirt, his
magnificent hair and his mustache, because you know, don't touch
the hair or face.
Speaker 4 (32:54):
That's part of the fight rules.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
But Will Ferrell also talked about how when they first
wrote it and screened it, the ending had to be
completely redone and reshot because it tested terribly, Oh Mike, Basically,
they had Christina Applegate's character kidnapped and then they had
to go and save her and this whole thing, and
it tested terribly with the audience.
Speaker 4 (33:16):
That was part of the podcast.
Speaker 3 (33:18):
You could find it iHeartRadio and app and wherever you
get your podcasts. It's an amazing story, just going, oh yeah,
everybody hated it. You know, you're hoping for a big
test or I'd score from one to one hundred. He goes,
we're at about a fifty.
Speaker 4 (33:33):
That's insane.
Speaker 5 (33:34):
So fifty percent of people walked away hating.
Speaker 4 (33:37):
The ending the movie.
Speaker 5 (33:38):
What's impressive, though, is how well received it was, how
quotable it is, and how much it stands up because
even still now, when when you find a young group
of guys or girls who haven't been exposed to the
movie yet and you show it to them, man, oh man, like,
there are some belly laugh scenes in there, and uh,
(34:02):
and I've done that a couple of times.
Speaker 4 (34:03):
I've had the privilege.
Speaker 5 (34:04):
Of of of of debuting that movie a couple of
times to a couple of different groups of people, and
it was, uh, it was fun, man, Like you know,
that movie holds up Talladega Knights hold up. Will Ferrell
has had a couple of hits and and a couple
of them around sports that I think were even underappreciated,
(34:27):
like kicking and screaming.
Speaker 4 (34:28):
I loved with my brothers stepbrothers.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
We watch it at every turn, kicking and screaming, grossly
underrated film.
Speaker 4 (34:35):
Ross, Mike Dicka was good. Dicka was great in it.
Speaker 3 (34:39):
Robert Duval and of course any movie that includes Rachel Harris.
Speaker 4 (34:42):
I'm gonna punch you in the over again.
Speaker 5 (34:44):
Yeah he really will, and he really will, by the way, tysher.
At the show break, he sent me a picture of
his beautiful mustache, his flowing locks, and also he was
holding his snake.
Speaker 4 (34:55):
And that's that is not in you ido, He would like,
you can't say that until after ten o'clock local time. No, no, no,
no harbor kind of quotes. It was. It was.
Speaker 5 (35:06):
It was an immature albino Burmese python mouth.
Speaker 4 (35:11):
No no, no, I do not have the poop mouth.
I do not know. I would you run And I
won't read anything on the propter. I'm I'm stating facts
I was sent. I mean, it's a beautiful steak too.
Speaker 5 (35:26):
It looks it resembles thank you, It resembles the the
Britney Spears sneak.
Speaker 4 (35:32):
You remember during the famous.
Speaker 3 (35:34):
When she was singing I'm a slave for you and
dancing around with the snake. I'm She's also sworn sworn
off all men to now this guy's never dating again.
Speaker 4 (35:45):
Maybe ten miles north of the San Fernando Valley. Well,
milk was a bad idea. We go down the road.
Speaker 3 (35:54):
Yeah, it's it's all these these quotables. I mean, the
sequel then came came out. I found out I was
gonna change my role here at Fox Sports Radio as
I answered a voicemail coming out of Seeing Anchorman two.
So it's it's a franchise that has great meaning in
my life and in highly quotable. I mean, how many
(36:14):
times do we talk about punting Baxter? Oh, you wrecked
what I love watching.
Speaker 4 (36:19):
I'm gonna do right now. Hiss burritos. N. We've literally
been sitting in this bar the entire time.
Speaker 3 (36:31):
David David Kector, he's been. He was on the Sunday
Show with me years ago. He made a visit.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
And when he does comedy stops Rich. You should have
him on the Morning Zoos show. I do, I do
a whole other places.
Speaker 5 (36:45):
David Keckner, who played Champ Kind the Sports say Whammy.
Speaker 4 (36:52):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (36:52):
Every time he plays San Diego. There's a club called
American Comedy Company. H all the you know any of
the touring stand ups they roll through there and when
he plays plays there, he stops Myers show.
Speaker 4 (37:04):
He's become a buddy.
Speaker 5 (37:05):
He's like, you know, that's a guy who I'll shoot
a message to every once in a while.
Speaker 3 (37:09):
Champ kind that's that's a beautiful thing, a wonderful man.
See it spills out and you've seen the dominance through
the years of that cast has had. Uh And I
celebrate Vince Vaughan as well my my daughters. They have
an aversion to him. I mean, he's a Cub fan,
so that's problematic, but I mean he is. He is
a Chicago guy. Nobody will take him over Cusack any day.
Speaker 4 (37:32):
Oh you will.
Speaker 3 (37:32):
He at least picked a side like yeah, yeah, Like
if it was us, you used to ask for for
tickets from everybody. Exactly all right, He's Rich Hornberg I
by Carmen. Coming up next, we turned back into the
NBA NFL with Devontae Adams going after Frostburg.
Speaker 2 (37:48):
Gonna find my baby, gonna hold her tight, Gonna grab
some afternoon delight.
Speaker 5 (37:55):
My motel has always been when it's tried, it's tried.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
Will wait be sure to catch live editions of the
Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern,
seven pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 3 (38:10):
Hey, welcome back in It's Fox Sports Radio The Jason
Smith Show with Me Mike Harmon.
Speaker 4 (38:16):
Jason Smith off. This week.
Speaker 3 (38:18):
My got rich Ornberger sitting in for him this evening,
our steam colleague, former NFL lineman, Penn State alum. I
actually have a trading card of rich Orberger in that
Penn State uniform.
Speaker 4 (38:31):
How about that? You're good man, got a.
Speaker 3 (38:33):
Big deal the expansive collection. Hang on to that, still
need you to sign that at some point.
Speaker 4 (38:38):
Hang off to that. It's gonna be worth something one day.
I promise it's worth something. Now.
Speaker 3 (38:42):
I'm sure you know I'll find that super Penn State
collector that's that's really just ready for it. Either that
or I sell the hell out of the fact that
you know and have tormented Tom Brady in the past.
All of those things come together. Another man who is
He talks to big time famous folks in the Hall
of Fame each and every week. It's our buddy MLB Network,
(39:05):
and he's on the big call on Thursday with the
Phillies and the Dodgers. It's our buddy, John Paul Morosi.
Find him on Twitter at John Morosi JP. As always
longtime friend of the show. Good to have you back
in once again today, and I'll ask the question for Frostburg,
what the hell happened to the Dodgers?
Speaker 7 (39:23):
Well, Mike and Rich, good evening, my friends. To borrow
a bit of the of one line that we that
we had on the track that brought us back from break.
The Dodgers were not so fresh and so clean this
evening that they were. They were within the opposite of
fresh and clean this evening. With a tip of the
(39:45):
cap to to outcast there, I'll say this, it has
never been more apparent that the Dodgers need to acquire
a starting pitcher and maybe even multiples at the deadline.
When you look at the struggles of Bobby Miller, and
clearly he's missed time this season. He didn't look comfortable tonight.
(40:08):
The location on the pitches was off. In a good
Major League line up like the Phillies will sting you
every time for that, And then you look at the
rest of the picture glass now injured list, Jeweler injured list,
Yamamoto injured list, Krushaw injured list, has yet to pitch
in the major leagues this season. You go down the line, guys,
(40:29):
and I'm I'm concerned. Not it's still a great team
when everybody's healthy. But everybody's not healthy right now. And
I think it's now the point where, of course, the
All Star Games next week, the Draft is next week,
the trade deadline is now basically three weeks from right now,
it's going to be over. So their window to upgrade
(40:53):
their pitching staff is immediately, and fortunately for them, there
is plenty of good supply out there. You could get
a Frankie Montass from the Reds, you can get a
yuse Kikuchi from the Blue Jays, even if you're not
going into the Garrett Crochet or Trek Skooble neighborhood. But
they've got some work to do, and I think a
night like this makes it a tough loss to take.
(41:16):
But it is an absolute, clear, clear flashing red light
to the front office that they need to make some upgrades.
Speaker 4 (41:23):
To the deadline.
Speaker 5 (41:24):
Yeah, sometimes you know, for fans, you want it to
be clear. You don't want the picture to be muddled
heading into the deadline. And I think the Dodgers have
a clear need and many teams. Do you know the
answer to this next question, maybe the same team we're
just talking about JP, But if you could humor me,
is there a team that sticks out in your head
amongst the thirtieth Major League Baseball right now that needs
(41:47):
the All Star Break more than any of the other
teams out there.
Speaker 7 (41:53):
I think the Seattle Mariners, who actually they're playing well tonight,
they're winning seven nothing over the Padres, but they have
been leaking oil a little bit in the last couple
of weeks to the Houston Astros in the American League
West race. And whether it's Julia Rodriguez, who missed some
time you had to have an MRI on a nagging injury,
actually came back to line up tonight hit a home run,
(42:14):
So maybe that's all he needed. But I think Julio
has much more to give than what he's shown so far.
He's the first class person. I just think that it
hasn't worked out for him in the first half of
the season. So take the break, refocus, recharge, come out
and then make a statement in the second half. And
the Mariners, when you consider where they're at, they've played
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half a season more than half a season now and
are still in first place, even though the best player
has not been their best player. That is, to me,
a team that does have some urgency needs the break,
and I think will be better in the second half
as a result. I think the Yankees too, with some
of their struggles rich that bullpen in particular has been
(42:57):
an issue. Clay Holmes is an All Star, but the
pathway from the starters to get to him has become very,
very unsettled in recent weeks, and part of that's because
the starters haven't been as good. Carlos Rodan struggled again today.
Luis Heel has not been nearly the same picture in
June and July that he was in the first two
(43:17):
months of the season. So I look at the Yankees
right now as certainly needing to break. The momentum honestly,
at the moment belongs to the Boston Red Sox. That
they keep playing well and they're somewhat under maned, don't
have a huge payrol any longer, at least in relative terms,
but with what they've done, they're sort of the I
never thought i'd say this, sort of like the underdog,
(43:38):
sentimental favorite those the small town in Boston. I say
this obviously with a more than a little bit of irony.
They are now the underdogs, and we'll see how things
play out now in.
Speaker 3 (43:49):
The second half, and they'll be floating out here to
play the Dodgers after the all start ike right away.
John Paulmarrosi with us here MLB Network, longtime friend of
the show, the podcast where he's going through the veritable
who's who, and by that I mean Hall of Famers latest.
I saw you promoting with the Wizard of Oz getting
(44:09):
after it as well, and JP, you know, I saw
comments from another Hall of Famer, George Brett, and I'll
agree with him. When are we going to go back
to the old style of trying to hit the baseball,
the old Charlie Lyle kind of rule of order instead
of everybody batting one ninety?
Speaker 7 (44:26):
Tell you what, There is a lot to like about
what George Brett said, and and it's for those who
didn't see the quote or here here the part of
the interview. He basically said that the issue with launch
angle is is you're you're passing the bat through the
hitting zone. The more the more vertical you get, the
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less time you give yourselfself horizontally to make contact with
a ball that is more or less typically coming at
you at more of a horizontal trajectory, and it's basic
physics makes a lot of sense to me. It was
somewhat remarkable many of the comments that it got a
fair amount of traction on acts here the last couple
(45:08):
of weeks. The remarkable the amount of comments who basically said,
and I'm paraphrasing here because I could not read the
direct quotes along the lines of, well, what does George
Brett know about how to hit in Major League Baseball
right now? As if the physics of a of a
spherical object and a bat have changed that much since
George Brett retired. It really is interesting to think about it.
(45:31):
I tend to think that George Brett has a lot
of smart things to say about about the subject of
many others. And again, like look at the players that
in the eighties and early nineties that we all wanted
to emulate. It was Tony Gwynn, George Brett, guys who
were winning batting titles, Guys who just had an absolute
innate sense of what to do with the bat and
(45:51):
could basically paint the canvas of the field with line drives,
and that's Luis Arais is that way, but not a
lot of other players are at the moment. And that's
why if I'm at the trade deadline, I'm looking for
guys that put the ball in play or that at
least don't have to draw a walk. There's just way
too many strikeouts relative to walks right now, and to
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me it really stands out. You know, it was interesting.
I was earlier tonight. I was talking with some friends
from Seattle about the Mariners and they're batting in the
low two hundreds, and the question came from my friends
in Seattle sports there about have we ever seen a
team win the World Series with a lineup like this?
And I went back in history. I thought about the
Giants of twenty ten. That was basically Pat Burrow, Aubrey
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huff Buster, Posey, and then the rotation. That's how they
won games, a lot of two to one, three to two,
three to one type of games. And yet their batting
average was around the two fifties, substantially and better than
what the Mariners are right now. Our understanding of what
is a good team batting average has gotten so skewed
in the last ten years. It's remarkable. So I think
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the postseason still guys belongs to the teams that can
find a way to put it in play in key
situations like the Nash a few years ago with Howie
Kendrick and Adam eat and that approach I believe is
still vitally important and one that I think is crucial
not moving forward.
Speaker 5 (47:10):
I'm so glad you said that, because I really feel
the same exact way that you feel that Brett Field.
When you have there's a certain coefficient and I don't
know what the number is, but it feels like there
is a constant number, and you could have more, but
you can't have less of those type of players who
(47:31):
are selfless hitters who will get on base, who will,
you know, occasionally turn a shoulder into a ball that's
close to hitting them to get on whatever it takes
just to move men over on the base path. You
have to have those guys. And there's a certain called
a Mendoza line, you know. I know that's typically used
(47:51):
for batting average, but you need a certain number of
players who are willing to do those sort of things,
and then obviously you'll have your variables. You know, you'll
have certain players who you know they're on the lineup
because of their defensive abilities. In some of them who
are getting paid, you know, handsomely to hit a whole
lot of home runs for you and cash in on
those base runners. But what would you what would you
(48:14):
put that number at? Like about how many of those
small ballers, you know, those guys who are willing to
take the base instead of try to grab the glory
that you need to have to go on a deep
playoff run these days.
Speaker 7 (48:30):
I think you need to have a lineup with at
least three or four of them who are good at that.
Who are and listen, you can have a certain number
of players in your lineup who swing for the downs,
so to speak. And when you've got someone like Aaron
Judge Juan Soto, they are elite both in terms of
hitting for average and for power. But what you're describing
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rich You've had a chance to see up close in
this year's development of Jerks and Profar who's in the
middle of his career, but he basically already this year
has has walked as many times in twenty four as
he did almost all of last season, and is on
base percentage has leapt up to above forty percent of
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the time, which players nowadays just aren't. They're not doing that,
and so I think that that what Jerks and Profile
has done. He has not sacrificed the power and production
to get on base more often. It's difficult to do.
And he's certainly, you know, once upon a time as
one of the best prospects in the game. He's delivering
(49:31):
on that promise now as an All Star and proving
to everybody that you can still do both. It's just
a matter of I think, making good swing decisions and
just keeping that that in the zone more often. I think, unfortunately,
Rich one thing that's happened in this game in recent
years is there has been a divergence between what gets
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you paid individually and what wins for your team. And
this is goodness. I hope of travel sports parents listen
to this, and we thought, well, we all and hope
with the coaches most importantly think about this. It's it's
what's best for the individual versus what the manager really
(50:12):
wants for his team, and that now has to be
resolved because there's no way that Profar should have been
unsigned for as long as he was well, why wasn't
he because he's not a huge power guy, and you
had teams chasing power with other players that aren't as
good as Profar, but they were, they were enthralled by
the power, and now Profar is doing both. So I
(50:35):
hope that this is a This is a big lesson
to a lot of front offices about exactly what kind
of players you should really be prioritizing in the offseason.
And yes, at the deadline now less than three weeks away.
Speaker 3 (50:49):
John Morossi our guest, no Mets or White Sox talk today,
I want to circle back to the Yankees as my
last one for you, JP.
Speaker 4 (50:57):
Cashman went down to Tampa.
Speaker 3 (51:00):
How you've got Hank Steinber or Holsteinberg sorry is down
there as well. Seventeen losses, twenty three games. At what
point does Brian Cashman's seat really actually get hot? Or
do we That's just something we talk about.
Speaker 7 (51:13):
It's a great question he when you think about the
duration of his job and the amount of pressure on him,
it is one of the longer and more dramatic and
more remarkable runs in modern pro sports history. He's what
he's been able to do. You think about again, with
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all due respect to the great football coaches and what
Nick Saban did at Alabama and others. They're coaching fourteen
fifteen games a year. Brian Cashman is living and dying
one hundred and sixty two times a year with that pressure,
and then October is like one big long panic attack
for basically five five straight weeks. So I want to
(51:58):
have a little moment of appreciation for what he's done.
It was funny, actually, so two thousand and six out
of the Yankee Stadium, the old Yankee Stadium for the playoffs,
and I was there with my mentor, John Lowe, and
we saw Brian in the old cafeteria dining room there,
which was iconic in its own right, and we said, hey, Brian,
good to see how you know, started the playoffs, What
a great time of year, and he's look it looks
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at us like like, man, yeah, I'm happy. But this
is also agonizing because at that point, as you know,
from both being involved in pro sports for so long,
there's nothing the GM can do, but there is right now.
Once you get October, you can't. Now you got a
lot to do. And I think that that Brian Cashman
(52:41):
is his seat hot. They still have it last checked,
like a ninety seven percent chance to make the playoffs.
As long as they're in the dance, I think that
the seat will not be actually hot until sometime in
the off season. But Brian Cashman, have you noticed a
lot of his comments in recent years? He has driven
so far past the the zero bleeps you have left
(53:02):
to give sign that. I think he's totally cool with
what he's done. He's got all these the World Series rings.
He's in pretty good.
Speaker 4 (53:08):
Shape, I think, no question about it.
Speaker 3 (53:11):
On the call Phillies and Dodgers on Thursday to our
BONDI m MLB Network Baseball Insider and of course always
a welcome guest and voice here on Fox Sports. Right now,
hey JP at John Morosi where you find on Twitter.
Pretty soon we'll be talking Lions in Michigan football, so.
Speaker 4 (53:28):
Get ready, I know.
Speaker 7 (53:29):
But by the way, and I'm excited. I think I'm
gonna be on the two pros and a couple of
Joe later on the week. I got to congratulate LeVar
in person for his son committing to Penn State. I know, Rich,
there's probably some good words putting by you as well.
I think LeVar Arrington the second, made a great choice.
Huge respect for Penn State, and I wish your team
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all the best this fall.
Speaker 4 (53:51):
I appreciate that very much.
Speaker 5 (53:52):
Same to you, m as they try to defend their
national title with a much busier Big ten. And I
agree with what you said about Leavar Arrington. The second
one thing that Penn State is known for linebackers. One
other thing they're lesser known for. But they've generated a
lot of them pass rushers, and he's gonna be rushing
off the edge for the Nitney Lions. I'm really excited
(54:13):
for for him and for his dad. And we are
you know that story.
Speaker 7 (54:18):
I know indeed you are Penn State. The LeVar Leap
take two, I love it. I'm excited about that.
Speaker 4 (54:25):
See if you can go and destroy Illinois the same way.
Speaker 3 (54:28):
See letter JP. Be good, have a great call. Talk
to you next week at JOA. Paul Morosi, r MLB
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you know, as you know I'm watching a lot of
you know, Euro twenty twenty twenty four. We just had
the Copa America game just went final with Argentina and
a win and Messi finally scores a goal. You know,
I did this a little with Arnie Spanier. But you know,
you're a man who loves, you know, all sporting events,
especially when you're trying to find some Betty angles for
(02:34):
the shows on the weekend as well as I went
and took in some Gaelic football.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
I was in Ireland two weeks ago, so you know,
a little bit of chaos and they actually had a
situation whereby they were attending to an injured player on
the field and played continued.
Speaker 4 (02:50):
It's one of the greatest things I've ever seen.
Speaker 5 (02:52):
It's amazing how how different areas of the country root
on their sports. Like the first time I experienced soccer
stateside was at a New England revs. Game the Revolution,
who played at Jiled Stadium, sharing the field that we
played on when I was with the Patriots, and it
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was sparsely attended, not a lot of people around, you know,
so sit but standing field side and watching these athletes,
you know, a whole new appreciation for the sport. Then
after that time, I probably didn't see a live soccer
event until the inaugural LAFC season, And much like you,
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just the pomp and circumstance around soccer now, I never
experienced it in Europe. I've never been to Ireland as
a matter of fact. But in the stands during this
LAFC game, they had a giant bass drum they were
banging on, they were setting off smoke bombs everywhere. It
was like nothing I had ever seen. And I was
(03:57):
paying more attention to the crowd than it was that
actual pitch or the field or whatever.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
They call it. It was unbelievable.
Speaker 5 (04:04):
It was, I mean, it's it's just a completely different
environment than watching an American football game.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
Any any piss bags or batteries in the crowd?
Speaker 5 (04:14):
As a matter of fact, I didn't see any piss bags.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
I saw no batteries.
Speaker 5 (04:18):
I did see a bald man with his shirt off
get more and more inebriated until he fell asleep on
top of the woman standing.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
In front of him.
Speaker 5 (04:28):
Okay, he was dragged out of there, but it was
But other than that, yeah, nothing out of the norm.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
No, that's some next level stuff.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
I mean for all, for all of the you know,
excitation and a fifty thousand person crowd for this for
this matchup that I was watching Galway and Dublin.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
Really not a lot in the crowd, do you know.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
A lot of positivity and a lot of kind of
quiet observation of what was going on. Not a lot
of screaming and chaos. I mean you had more of
that down in the tunnel trying to get towards the
beer and the concession stands because there was nothing actually
in the stadium. Two thirty five minute halfs very fast moving,
but you know, the level of violence was immense, which
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was great on the pitch, I should say, so you know,
it just kept the line moving. So it was a
nice experience there overseas, and it's good to be back
in the throes of all of the chaos. Ahead of
the beginning of training camp, we got the Hard Knocks
story of all stories, because we all want to challenge
(05:27):
our athleticism, so we'll do that because there is off
season Hard Knocks. We're less than a month away from
the Bears being featured, and right now, if you were
to call it a stock, I think it would be overweighted.
With the number of people that have jumped on board
the Bear's bandwagon. But we'll get into that a little
more in earnest as we go on. As I mentioned,
watching a lot of Copa America and the euro twenty
(05:51):
twenty four, and here here's just a great stat. As
we get jumping off, we've got the Mike Gundy, what
the hell are you doing? Quote of the day coming
up in about fifteen minutes. But Linol Messi scored his
first goal of the tournament tonight. In two thousand and seven,
he scored his first career goal at Copa America. Earlier,
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Spain beat France to advance and Bape had a chance
in the eighty fifth minute defender on his heel and
he ended up sailing it about twenty feet over the crossbar.
So failed by one of the big names. But a
guy named Jamal who's sixteen years old. Rich sixteen years old,
he scores his first Euros goal. Yeah, at this time
(06:36):
that Messi was scoring his first career goal at Copa America,
Jamal was being born.
Speaker 4 (06:41):
So there you go. Crazy.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
It's a crazy world that we're living in because we're
talking about forty year old Lebron James, his kid coming
into the league, and all of that fun stuff as
we go on. But we're gonna get started with Joe
Burrow back in the News saying he wants all the smoke,
he wants all the attention because hey, you forgot about me,
Right he's with M and M dropping his new album
(07:04):
on Friday. It's only appropriate, right, forgot about dre Same
thing here, Joe Burrow saying, Hey, I'm gonna give people
something to talk about. Channeling a little what is that
early nineties Bonnie ray It.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
Yeah, while he's at.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
It, how about that leaving no musical stone in pop
culture reference on turned But he's got a couple of things.
He was on the Pardon My Take podcast and he
started talking about the schedule and the inevitability of the
eighteen game.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
Coming to this to the NFL.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
Right, we've got that big direct TV lawsuit thing going
on that's gonna cost him a lot of money, and
you know, really kind of funny how it equates to
the amount of money that was gonna be split nationally
from the revenue of the National Football League. It's really
crazy how that works in terms of penalties and all
that fun stuff. When you parse it out. But he's saying, Hey,
(07:57):
if we're going to do an eighteenth game, then we
wanted a second bye week, and he's already mapped it out.
How about a buy in week thirteen to where you know, hey,
we'll do the Pro Bowl there, which is kind of
silly because the Pro Bowl in the middle of season.
Who the hell's participating unless you're gonna go shuit up
Barry Sanders a bunch of legends.
Speaker 5 (08:16):
But Mike, nobody, nobody is participating in the Pro Bowl
right now. It's a two hand touch football game. It's
a glorified you know, attendance.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
Roll call, No, that's it, show up, wave your little cab,
let your sponsor money, sign a couple of autographs, take
a couple of pictures, and run off the field. So
like the whole concept at this point, it's like hard
knocks for me as well. It's like, I guess it's
a necessity for the job that I've got to pay
attention to.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
It to a degree. But if it went away, I
don't think i'd miss it.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Not a lot of people in your life, right they go,
oh you remember that guy, Yeah, I guess, okay, cool,
Moving on, same thing here the Pro Bowl.
Speaker 4 (08:58):
Look, a lot of folks still want to watch and
bet on it.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
But moving it into season, man, you want to talk
about zero participation? Are you gonna play it as a
video game?
Speaker 4 (09:07):
I waffle back and forth. I really do like, you know,
so the Pro Bowl it listen.
Speaker 5 (09:13):
I do not get much enjoyment out of the Pro Bowl,
And frankly, I really never did when I was growing up.
I was more of a basketball All Star Game fan.
I didn't really love baseball growing up. That was a
taste I acquired as an adult. Actually, that's when I
fell in love with baseball as a fan and with football.
(09:34):
The Pro Bowl it just sort of seemed silly, like
I don't know why, even as a kid, like I
was like, what is this game for? And the answer
to that question was, well, for bragging rights, I guess it.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
Just kind of like take care of the sponsors, yeah,
and showcase Hawaii and take their tourism off, you know,
advisory board dollars, right.
Speaker 5 (09:55):
And the players they they clearly did not want to
be there, you know, the the and I don't I
don't mean that because they do want to win Pro Bowls.
They want to have their names attached to that recognition because,
like you just said, that is a great way to
market yourself. Obviously, when your legacy is being totaled after
(10:18):
your career is over, if you're so lucky to be
considered for all Hall of Fame bid there are voters
who care how many times you were named to these lists,
And I'm not exactly sure why because these lists are
subjective anyways, So if you are voting on a Hall
of Fame candidacy, why you would lean on other people
to advocate for players instead of doing your own advocacy
(10:41):
is ridiculous to me. But that's a different, you know,
debate for a different day. But yeah, in terms of
like having a mid season Pro Bowl break like the
NBA does, like we're coming up on in Major League Baseball,
I don't think I would be tremendously opposed. You know,
if we expand the season to eighteen games, I do
think I think a second bye week would be necessary.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
Anyways, Wait, that roster expansion or two things that you
definitely have to look.
Speaker 5 (11:07):
At, you know, and then the other thing you'd have
to look at in terms of contracts, like you know,
now you go in the span of potentially six years,
ten years, whoever, you know, whatever it is, you expand
by two games. You know, it's almost like imagine your
boss walking into your office and saying, hey, buddy, you're
(11:28):
doing a great job around here. We're making tremendous amounts
of money, and incrementally your salary is going to increase. However,
we're gonna have you work an extra hour and twenty
minutes every single day.
Speaker 4 (11:41):
And you say, oh, okay, well I'll be paid for that, right, No, no, no, no,
you're not going to be paid for that.
Speaker 5 (11:48):
Wait, so I gotta work instead of eight hour days,
I gotta work nine hour twenty minute days, and I'm
not going to be paid anything more. Yeah, no, no, no,
you're not gonna get paid anymore. And as a matter
of fact, we're thinking about increasing that in a couple
of years, and you're not gonna get a single dime
more upfront by comparison to how much more you're working.
You're just gonna have to deal with those incremental raises, uh,
(12:11):
every year, just like you always had.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
Well, what what sense does that make? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (12:15):
I don't think it'll we'll ever get there where these
these uh, these these contracts, these current NFL contracts will
ever be recalibrated when they add games, because I'm I'm
imagining you would have to have a labor stoppage in
order for the owners to you know, bend the knee
to the players.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
In that way.
Speaker 5 (12:34):
But you get into this, this discussion, this debate about fairness,
about player safety, about the tradeoff. You know, yeah, the
NFL is going to make a lot more money, and
ipso facto, the players are gonna have a larger cut
of the broadcast revenue, but they're not going to get
it immediately, just like they didn't win they expanded the
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league to seventeen game seasons.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
Yeah, that's the thing, rich, right is And and you
know this from the your years as working in the
league and as a player, how much information flows through
a locker room or doesn't through your player representative?
Speaker 4 (13:11):
Right?
Speaker 3 (13:11):
Some are good, some are really great at it, and
some it's kind of like, all right, well here's the link,
get after it, and there's not a lot of discussion.
And as a player's association, and look, I've been vilified
many a time by folks I've done shows with and
maybe you'll hate me too. Generally they go for the
lowest hanging fruit stand in right, because you have such
(13:33):
a great large gradient and so many different slices. You know,
you and I love to cook, so right, the stuff
that's well done on the edges versus a little pinker
and rare.
Speaker 4 (13:44):
In the middle.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
Right, if you've got a nice roast going on, in
terms of your cook time and what you need to
do with it, it's the same thing with the players that
now making guys actually meet. So maybe not the best analogy,
but for the purposes of this, you know, it's a
slab of beef. So it's the idea of Hey, the
quarter are up here. Their concerns at fifty million dollars
a year are a lot different than most of the roster,
(14:07):
which are just trying to hang on and get another
check and another year towards vesting, towards retirement benefits and
whatever else. Right, So when it's being parsed out of all, right,
here's everything we got to fight about. You know, you've
got different stratas of where people's concerns are really pressing, Right,
(14:28):
And the big guy and the forty million dollar a
year player doesn't always look out for the interest of
the guys on the back end of the roster.
Speaker 4 (14:36):
That are what eighty percent of.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
The roster right in terms of how much you know,
we're talking about guys and what they make and their longevity, right,
the average career being a shade over three years, and
that includes a very long tail of guys with a
cup of coffee.
Speaker 4 (14:53):
It's amazing.
Speaker 5 (14:55):
How if you pay the massive majority of players better
you know who make up Like you said that eighty
percent of players who are making in that minimum range,
you're going to swing the vote in your favor if
you're the owners. They figured that out years ago. They're
going to keep banging that drum. And as a result,
(15:16):
you know, if they do expand the league to eighteen
game regular seasons, which I imagine they will, well it's
not going to change anything contract wise, but I do
think there will be roster expansion. Like you mentioned, I
do think an additional bye week is a necessity, and
there will be probably some other accommodations made along the way.
Speaker 4 (15:37):
And to be.
Speaker 5 (15:37):
Perfectly honest with you, from a fan perspective, as long
as it.
Speaker 4 (15:41):
Doesn't dilute the product, as long.
Speaker 5 (15:44):
As it still remains an urgent regular season, I'm not
gonna mind.
Speaker 4 (15:48):
In fact, the more football the better, No a percent.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
The hard part to it is where they have gotten concession.
The pass is where they've you know, hey, we're going
to have fewer practices. Sure this So the game actually
does suffer in some respects at least a lot of
times in the early September outings that we see going
for plenty more on this and others. Rich Hornberger our
(16:12):
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you find him on Twitter, find me over at Swollendome.
You can always follow us at Fox Sports Radio. Coming
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to walk it back. Don't think that worked. We'll sort
it all out here next.
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with Me by Carmen No Jason Smith. This week all
star parade of legends coming through here. Rich Hornberger in
the chair today with us. Got our guys Alex Tye Shir,
Justin Frossberg and Brian Finley up on the updates today.
One of the stories that hit the headlines today, Rich,
(17:43):
I had to read it a couple of times and
then when the audio surfaced, well you played it a
couple of times to say is this AI generated or
is this for real? My Gundy Oklahoma state coach, remember
once upon a time, I'm a man. You know, he
had a well a bit of a controversial statement would be, well,
(18:06):
perhaps an understatement of it. Oli Gordon the second he
had Big twelve Media Days going on on June thirtieth,
tulsa suspicion of a dui. He will not miss game time,
according to Gundhy, for it, he blew a point one zero,
so narrowly over the legal limit. Right now we get
(18:27):
into semantics, and after looking it up the metric, well,
Gundhy decided to be super sleuth. Yeah, so obviously at
Il and all that talking about money to be made,
Gandhi would go on to say the punishment would be,
I don't know, give him fifty carries.
Speaker 4 (18:46):
He later tried to walk this back after.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
Saying, you know, it's a decision I've probably made a
thousand times. Hang a star on that one quote. My
intended point today at Big twelve Media Days was that
we are all all guilty of making bad decisions. It
was not a reference to something specific. He says he
considers the matter settled. But trying to walk back the
(19:11):
statement of probably done that a thousand times, you know,
not get away with that one, Mike Gandy. Yeah, and
right now you've got a lot of folks targeted because
we are in that that quiet time right where we
look for those stories and and coaches and administrators from colleges,
high schools all the way up through the pros they
(19:34):
don't want their phone to ring. We had that at
the accident over the weekend, killing three young men, a
draft pick this year and his high school teammates. All
of that that we're talking about, you know, that time
of year where the worst comes out. And from Mike
Gundhy to make light of it with a flippant remark,
(19:57):
I mean, you're you're talking about a guy that it
is going to be watched at every turn going forward.
Speaker 4 (20:04):
So I'm thirty eight years old.
Speaker 5 (20:06):
When I was in high school, a show debuted on
Comedy Central called Chappelle's Show, and it was Dave Chappelle,
who's a stand up comic and you know, oftentimes is
considered controversial for things he says and.
Speaker 4 (20:20):
Writes jokes about.
Speaker 5 (20:21):
But it was widely regarded as one of the funniest
sketch shows around.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
No question about it. Still quoted oftentimes, or maybe a
little less in the hallways than it used to be.
Speaker 4 (20:33):
But.
Speaker 5 (20:35):
Well, yeah, I'm going to quote it right now. Sometimes
keeping it real goes wrong. And this is a sterling
example of when keeping it real goes wrong, because that
was one of the sketches they did, and it was
those intrusive thoughts that you know, they're supposed to be
inside thoughts.
Speaker 4 (20:56):
They're supposed to be things that maybe even take with
you to the grave.
Speaker 5 (21:00):
Mike Gundhy, You're not supposed to say all of the
things that the little Mike Gundhy voice inside of your
head says to you.
Speaker 4 (21:09):
Some of those things you just they just only those.
Speaker 5 (21:12):
Those are yours, Those are all for you, and you
don't tell a single person.
Speaker 4 (21:17):
Now. Am I advocating for anybody drinking and driving? Obviously not.
Speaker 5 (21:22):
Do I think it's smart that he's made that decision
a thousand times in the past. Obviously not. But when
you are the head football coach, or when you are
the CEO, or you're the President of the United States,
or you hold a high ranking position in some you know,
government branch or military or what have you, you have
(21:47):
to have better sense than to keep it that real.
Speaker 4 (21:51):
And listen, this is coming from somebody.
Speaker 5 (21:54):
Who hates inauthenticity, Like I really I like it when
I feel like I'm being lied to sure, but you
can not keep it that real and also be authentic
and honest, like he could have addressed this by saying, listen,
my player's a young man, and as we all know,
(22:17):
young men sometimes make mistakes. He's shown contrition. We're upset
about this. He's upset about this, and we're going to
work through it with him because we believe in him
as a person and we see the light at the
other end of the tunnel already and we know he's
going to put in the work to improve his situation.
Speaker 4 (22:38):
And that's where you leave it.
Speaker 5 (22:39):
And guess what, you're not lying to anybody, but you
know what, you're not admitting to committing a crime a thousand.
Speaker 4 (22:46):
Times over time of your player.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
But one of the crimes that, let's face it, you
know in the news and when we go through it
that it's so a right. There's a million services by
which these days, you know a quick you know, three
clicks of you on your phone and you're done. Look,
(23:11):
if he can do legal stuff, I can tell you
how to get an app and get the app, uh
and call for a ride to come get you where
you need to go. Not to mention that in a
lot of circumstances. Certainly at the pro level, you've got
people on staff that that's part of their job, right
for your well being as a player. And I'm guessing
more and more colleges implementing, especially in this new day
(23:34):
and age of nil and other benefits that players are receiving.
That means there's also more people from the administrative side
to make sure that everybody is protected, everybody's mind in
their p's and q's and things of this nature.
Speaker 5 (23:47):
And see that that is the whole story right there.
So the two biggest things about this story that stick
out the most to me is student athletes are going
to be held to a much higher standard than they
ever have before, because it's less emphasis on student and
more emphasis on athlete now that they're being paid like
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professionals at the collegiate level. And the more and more
those dollar bills expand and the more sourced reports about
how much these star players are getting paid at all
these different universities, there's going to be a lot less
interest in giving these giving excuses.
Speaker 4 (24:26):
Well, yeah, you're not a Ken anymore. Yeah, exactly right,
you're a professional.
Speaker 5 (24:30):
And by the way, there are eighteen year olds who
are across the world from their families fighting for this country.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
That was the argument I always made back in the
Mike Williams, Maurice Colerett and whatever else, like, if some
team wants to take a shot on a guy, why
do we protect the teams from themselves?
Speaker 5 (24:47):
And then the other part of this is so yeah,
like you said, the accountability is going to be more
so on the players than ever before.
Speaker 4 (24:53):
Nobody can cry poverty.
Speaker 5 (24:55):
Hey, you know I didn't have any money in my
account to call an uber. It's like, oh, yeah, you
didn't have any money in your count after getting the
couple hundred thousand dollars endorsement deal from the car dealership
or from Jimmy Johns, or from you know, whatever it
may be. And then you know, let's let's also include
in this nightmare of a situation for this collegiate program
(25:16):
the fact that Mike Gundhy, who's supposed to be the
liaison between your players and the general public, stepping in
it so royally, Like I mean, he took a bad
situation and he made it several magnitudes worse.
Speaker 4 (25:33):
In a million times worse. It's insane.
Speaker 5 (25:35):
So it's like, the accountability is going to be more
so higher and higher on the player side for making
these dumb decisions, because they're going to be treated more
like professionals than like amateurs, more so than ever before.
Speaker 4 (25:47):
And then on top of it.
Speaker 5 (25:48):
You're going to have to have coaches smart enough not
to make the bad thing worse when the media comes
sniffing around.
Speaker 4 (25:57):
Saying, hey, what's going on? Why was you're playing a
drunk tank with the dwie last night?
Speaker 5 (26:03):
Oh he's not doing anything I wouldn't do. Wait what
that's how you're handling this, Mike, right, I mean what
is going on?
Speaker 4 (26:11):
Right?
Speaker 3 (26:11):
You're saying I've done this a million times and look
and by the grace of God, I'm here.
Speaker 4 (26:15):
Tada. No, that's not the way this works. I'll tell
you what.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
It's an abhorrent thing to it to admit to. And
look again, many people across our globe, right we're global
here on the iHeartRadio app can say, okay, I've done
that before, or maybe you know, I had a scary situation,
maybe I survived a terrible situation, whatever you know somewhere
on that continuum. But for for Gundhy to kind of
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throw out the thousand times like to your point. You're
the CEO of this operation, right, talk about the learning,
talk about whatever measures he's got to do in the community,
you know, and as an organization, we can't stand like
because he wasn't contact if this isn't a phone call
twenty minutes after the incident to where you've got to
respond to something, Come.
Speaker 4 (27:02):
On, Gundy, has it done that? Yeah, Gundy, Gundy wasn't.
Speaker 5 (27:05):
Yeah, this wasn't He was dragged out of bed, shaken,
awake and foisted in front of a camera fifteen minutes
after finding out the news.
Speaker 4 (27:14):
You're absolutely right.
Speaker 5 (27:15):
Yeah, let me ask you this question because I haven't
seen the video yet. I just heard the audio that
we played here. Did he did he put his mullet
on backwards? Did he have the party in the front
and the business in the back? Maybe that was the problem. No,
I understood all.
Speaker 4 (27:29):
I'm just making sure you because sometimes you know, like
you know.
Speaker 5 (27:32):
Sometimes the party speaks first and then you know, the
business side it gets like, you know, you got to
make sure you wear.
Speaker 4 (27:37):
Those mullets so that you got to keep them on straight.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
Of course, it's it's funny you say that, because we'll
we'll talk about Mullet Night as a as an event
as we go forward, because you do have minor league
teams that celebrate the mullet like no other and every
year they get after it the Blue Wahoo's So there
you go. It's uh, you you ever try that look?
(28:01):
It's a look because it's coming back a little bit,
which is really kind of frightening.
Speaker 5 (28:05):
I was a kid and I had a buddy at
school who wore a mullet.
Speaker 4 (28:11):
His name was Glenn and Glenn.
Speaker 5 (28:13):
Dude, Glenn, if you're still around, buddy, you know who
I'm talking about.
Speaker 4 (28:16):
We're in Miss super Wow. If you're still around, you
went that. That went that far? Well not if you're listening.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
So what you're saying is the bullet was one of
many bad decisions. Yeah, you're privy to in the life
of Glenn.
Speaker 5 (28:28):
Well, me and Glenn and Miss Soulet second grade class
we did. We did some crazy stuff thousands of times.
So it's you know, who knows where he's at in
life now. But but but I remember he had this mullet.
I mean it was sharp, man, his parents did it right,
and uh, and I went. I went to the Lemon
Tree barber shop in Long Island, New York with my mom.
It was haircut day. All three of us were going
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to get in the chair, and when it was my turn,
I said, I want to short in the sides. I
want a short on top, and I want a long
in the back. And my mom, I mean when I
I say, she dove in the way of the scissors
like she was like she was secret service protecting a
high ranking delegate.
Speaker 4 (29:08):
It was unbelievable.
Speaker 5 (29:10):
She was like, absolutely not not in my household. So no,
the closest I ever got was was, you know, maybe
maybe two feet away from having the first of my
golden locks, uh trimmed at a barber shop.
Speaker 4 (29:25):
But yeah, never never wore a mullet.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
Now that's funny as hell. Frostburg's admitting that he hated
wore one for a summer full summer.
Speaker 4 (29:31):
Rich dude, Yeah, I mean, was it the summer of
love shops?
Speaker 5 (29:34):
I mean, honestly, wait, look, and I know you spoke before,
I mean, what was it was?
Speaker 4 (29:41):
It just was the phone tracking was glorious mode. Yeah, yeah,
I understand, I seen the pictures. No, I was scared,
bring him in, bring him in? Well, yeah, what about you?
I mean the twer Ty Shirt. I mean, I mean
he's got a glorious head of hair. You don't let
us right now? Yeah, and he's rocking a mustag like
dash too. I haven't.
Speaker 3 (30:01):
It's like he's gone and watched all. I think he
went and saw Maxine and he was inspired.
Speaker 4 (30:06):
I'm scared he's gonna pull me over. I need Ty
should have sent me a selfie immediately. I am a
fan of a good mustage as this is some next
level stuff.
Speaker 3 (30:16):
I mean the hair is flowing, slick back a little bit,
and then he's got the mustache going.
Speaker 4 (30:21):
Yeah. Yeah, that's a handsome boy too.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
Powerful and attractive men, there's no question about it. He's
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Speaker 2 (31:34):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern seven
pm Pacific.
Speaker 3 (31:42):
Hey, welcome back in Fox Sports Radio Jason Smith's Show
with Me Mike Harmon, Rich Hornberger in for Jason Smith tonight.
Our all star crack team is assembled and I saw
notice earlier today in my socials. Rich, you know how
much I going to the movies and celebrating movies, and
(32:03):
we bring pop culture into the show all the time,
you and I randomly quoting like you know, little kids
lines back and forth. I mean, that's just what we do.
And I hope I never grow up. It's one of
those songs, right, I hope you never grow up, Hope
you stay this little It's a whole Taylor Swift thing.
I'm kind of that same thing. But I saw that
(32:24):
Christina Applegate posted that in her latest episode of her
podcast that she had Will Ferrell stop by and they
started talking about Anchorman, which was officially released twenty years
ago today. Yeah, and you know, really it really yawged
(32:45):
my memory when we started talking about Ty Shirt, his
magnificent hair and his mustache, because you know, don't touch
the hair or face.
Speaker 4 (32:54):
That's part of the fight rules.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
But Will Ferrell also talked about how when they first
wrote it and screened it, the ending had to be
completely redone and reshot because it tested terribly, Oh Mike, Basically,
they had Christina Applegate's character kidnapped and then they had
to go and save her and this whole thing, and
it tested terribly with the audience.
Speaker 4 (33:16):
That was part of the podcast.
Speaker 3 (33:18):
You could find it iHeartRadio and app and wherever you
get your podcasts. It's an amazing story, just going, oh yeah,
everybody hated it. You know, you're hoping for a big
test or I'd score from one to one hundred. He goes,
we're at about a fifty.
Speaker 4 (33:33):
That's insane.
Speaker 5 (33:34):
So fifty percent of people walked away hating.
Speaker 4 (33:37):
The ending the movie.
Speaker 5 (33:38):
What's impressive, though, is how well received it was, how
quotable it is, and how much it stands up because
even still now, when when you find a young group
of guys or girls who haven't been exposed to the
movie yet and you show it to them, man, oh man, like,
there are some belly laugh scenes in there, and uh,
(34:02):
and I've done that a couple of times.
Speaker 4 (34:03):
I've had the privilege.
Speaker 5 (34:04):
Of of of of debuting that movie a couple of
times to a couple of different groups of people, and
it was, uh, it was fun, man, Like you know,
that movie holds up Talladega Knights hold up. Will Ferrell
has had a couple of hits and and a couple
of them around sports that I think were even underappreciated,
(34:27):
like kicking and screaming.
Speaker 4 (34:28):
I loved with my brothers stepbrothers.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
We watch it at every turn, kicking and screaming, grossly
underrated film.
Speaker 4 (34:35):
Ross, Mike Dicka was good. Dicka was great in it.
Speaker 3 (34:39):
Robert Duval and of course any movie that includes Rachel Harris.
Speaker 4 (34:42):
I'm gonna punch you in the over again.
Speaker 5 (34:44):
Yeah he really will, and he really will, by the way, tysher.
At the show break, he sent me a picture of
his beautiful mustache, his flowing locks, and also he was
holding his snake.
Speaker 4 (34:55):
And that's that is not in you ido, He would like,
you can't say that until after ten o'clock local time. No, no, no,
no harbor kind of quotes. It was. It was.
Speaker 5 (35:06):
It was an immature albino Burmese python mouth.
Speaker 4 (35:11):
No no, no, I do not have the poop mouth.
I do not know. I would you run And I
won't read anything on the propter. I'm I'm stating facts
I was sent. I mean, it's a beautiful steak too.
Speaker 5 (35:26):
It looks it resembles thank you, It resembles the the
Britney Spears sneak.
Speaker 4 (35:32):
You remember during the famous.
Speaker 3 (35:34):
When she was singing I'm a slave for you and
dancing around with the snake. I'm She's also sworn sworn
off all men to now this guy's never dating again.
Speaker 4 (35:45):
Maybe ten miles north of the San Fernando Valley. Well,
milk was a bad idea. We go down the road.
Speaker 3 (35:54):
Yeah, it's it's all these these quotables. I mean, the
sequel then came came out. I found out I was
gonna change my role here at Fox Sports Radio as
I answered a voicemail coming out of Seeing Anchorman two.
So it's it's a franchise that has great meaning in
my life and in highly quotable. I mean, how many
(36:14):
times do we talk about punting Baxter? Oh, you wrecked
what I love watching.
Speaker 4 (36:19):
I'm gonna do right now. Hiss burritos. N. We've literally
been sitting in this bar the entire time.
Speaker 3 (36:31):
David David Kector, he's been. He was on the Sunday
Show with me years ago. He made a visit.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
And when he does comedy stops Rich. You should have
him on the Morning Zoos show. I do, I do
a whole other places.
Speaker 5 (36:45):
David Keckner, who played Champ Kind the Sports say Whammy.
Speaker 4 (36:52):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (36:52):
Every time he plays San Diego. There's a club called
American Comedy Company. H all the you know any of
the touring stand ups they roll through there and when
he plays plays there, he stops Myers show.
Speaker 4 (37:04):
He's become a buddy.
Speaker 5 (37:05):
He's like, you know, that's a guy who I'll shoot
a message to every once in a while.
Speaker 3 (37:09):
Champ kind that's that's a beautiful thing, a wonderful man.
See it spills out and you've seen the dominance through
the years of that cast has had. Uh And I
celebrate Vince Vaughan as well my my daughters. They have
an aversion to him. I mean, he's a Cub fan,
so that's problematic, but I mean he is. He is
a Chicago guy. Nobody will take him over Cusack any day.
Speaker 4 (37:32):
Oh you will.
Speaker 3 (37:32):
He at least picked a side like yeah, yeah, Like
if it was us, you used to ask for for
tickets from everybody. Exactly all right, He's Rich Hornberg I
by Carmen. Coming up next, we turned back into the
NBA NFL with Devontae Adams going after Frostburg.
Speaker 2 (37:48):
Gonna find my baby, gonna hold her tight, Gonna grab
some afternoon delight.
Speaker 5 (37:55):
My motel has always been when it's tried, it's tried.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
Will wait be sure to catch live editions of the
Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern,
seven pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 3 (38:10):
Hey, welcome back in It's Fox Sports Radio The Jason
Smith Show with Me Mike Harmon.
Speaker 4 (38:16):
Jason Smith off. This week.
Speaker 3 (38:18):
My got rich Ornberger sitting in for him this evening,
our steam colleague, former NFL lineman, Penn State alum. I
actually have a trading card of rich Orberger in that
Penn State uniform.
Speaker 4 (38:31):
How about that? You're good man, got a.
Speaker 3 (38:33):
Big deal the expansive collection. Hang on to that, still
need you to sign that at some point.
Speaker 4 (38:38):
Hang off to that. It's gonna be worth something one day.
I promise it's worth something. Now.
Speaker 3 (38:42):
I'm sure you know I'll find that super Penn State
collector that's that's really just ready for it. Either that
or I sell the hell out of the fact that
you know and have tormented Tom Brady in the past.
All of those things come together. Another man who is
He talks to big time famous folks in the Hall
of Fame each and every week. It's our buddy MLB Network,
(39:05):
and he's on the big call on Thursday with the
Phillies and the Dodgers. It's our buddy, John Paul Morosi.
Find him on Twitter at John Morosi JP. As always
longtime friend of the show. Good to have you back
in once again today, and I'll ask the question for Frostburg,
what the hell happened to the Dodgers?
Speaker 7 (39:23):
Well, Mike and Rich, good evening, my friends. To borrow
a bit of the of one line that we that
we had on the track that brought us back from break.
The Dodgers were not so fresh and so clean this
evening that they were. They were within the opposite of
fresh and clean this evening. With a tip of the
(39:45):
cap to to outcast there, I'll say this, it has
never been more apparent that the Dodgers need to acquire
a starting pitcher and maybe even multiples at the deadline.
When you look at the struggles of Bobby Miller, and
clearly he's missed time this season. He didn't look comfortable tonight.
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The location on the pitches was off. In a good
Major League line up like the Phillies will sting you
every time for that, And then you look at the
rest of the picture glass now injured list, Jeweler injured list,
Yamamoto injured list, Krushaw injured list, has yet to pitch
in the major leagues this season. You go down the line, guys,
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and I'm I'm concerned. Not it's still a great team
when everybody's healthy. But everybody's not healthy right now. And
I think it's now the point where, of course, the
All Star Games next week, the Draft is next week,
the trade deadline is now basically three weeks from right now,
it's going to be over. So their window to upgrade
(40:53):
their pitching staff is immediately, and fortunately for them, there
is plenty of good supply out there. You could get
a Frankie Montass from the Reds, you can get a
yuse Kikuchi from the Blue Jays, even if you're not
going into the Garrett Crochet or Trek Skooble neighborhood. But
they've got some work to do, and I think a
night like this makes it a tough loss to take.
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But it is an absolute, clear, clear flashing red light
to the front office that they need to make some upgrades.
Speaker 4 (41:23):
To the deadline.
Speaker 5 (41:24):
Yeah, sometimes you know, for fans, you want it to
be clear. You don't want the picture to be muddled
heading into the deadline. And I think the Dodgers have
a clear need and many teams. Do you know the
answer to this next question, maybe the same team we're
just talking about JP, But if you could humor me,
is there a team that sticks out in your head
amongst the thirtieth Major League Baseball right now that needs
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the All Star Break more than any of the other
teams out there.
Speaker 7 (41:53):
I think the Seattle Mariners, who actually they're playing well tonight,
they're winning seven nothing over the Padres, but they have
been leaking oil a little bit in the last couple
of weeks to the Houston Astros in the American League
West race. And whether it's Julia Rodriguez, who missed some
time you had to have an MRI on a nagging injury,
actually came back to line up tonight hit a home run,
(42:14):
So maybe that's all he needed. But I think Julio
has much more to give than what he's shown so far.
He's the first class person. I just think that it
hasn't worked out for him in the first half of
the season. So take the break, refocus, recharge, come out
and then make a statement in the second half. And
the Mariners, when you consider where they're at, they've played
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half a season more than half a season now and
are still in first place, even though the best player
has not been their best player. That is, to me,
a team that does have some urgency needs the break,
and I think will be better in the second half
as a result. I think the Yankees too, with some
of their struggles rich that bullpen in particular has been
(42:57):
an issue. Clay Holmes is an All Star, but the
pathway from the starters to get to him has become very,
very unsettled in recent weeks, and part of that's because
the starters haven't been as good. Carlos Rodan struggled again today.
Luis Heel has not been nearly the same picture in
June and July that he was in the first two
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months of the season. So I look at the Yankees
right now as certainly needing to break. The momentum honestly,
at the moment belongs to the Boston Red Sox. That
they keep playing well and they're somewhat under maned, don't
have a huge payrol any longer, at least in relative terms,
but with what they've done, they're sort of the I
never thought i'd say this, sort of like the underdog,
(43:38):
sentimental favorite those the small town in Boston. I say
this obviously with a more than a little bit of irony.
They are now the underdogs, and we'll see how things
play out now in.
Speaker 3 (43:49):
The second half, and they'll be floating out here to
play the Dodgers after the all start ike right away.
John Paulmarrosi with us here MLB Network, longtime friend of
the show, the podcast where he's going through the veritable
who's who, and by that I mean Hall of Famers latest.
I saw you promoting with the Wizard of Oz getting
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after it as well, and JP, you know, I saw
comments from another Hall of Famer, George Brett, and I'll
agree with him. When are we going to go back
to the old style of trying to hit the baseball,
the old Charlie Lyle kind of rule of order instead
of everybody batting one ninety?
Speaker 7 (44:26):
Tell you what, There is a lot to like about
what George Brett said, and and it's for those who
didn't see the quote or here here the part of
the interview. He basically said that the issue with launch
angle is is you're you're passing the bat through the
hitting zone. The more the more vertical you get, the
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less time you give yourselfself horizontally to make contact with
a ball that is more or less typically coming at
you at more of a horizontal trajectory, and it's basic
physics makes a lot of sense to me. It was
somewhat remarkable many of the comments that it got a
fair amount of traction on acts here the last couple
(45:08):
of weeks. The remarkable the amount of comments who basically said,
and I'm paraphrasing here because I could not read the
direct quotes along the lines of, well, what does George
Brett know about how to hit in Major League Baseball
right now? As if the physics of a of a
spherical object and a bat have changed that much since
George Brett retired. It really is interesting to think about it.
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I tend to think that George Brett has a lot
of smart things to say about about the subject of
many others. And again, like look at the players that
in the eighties and early nineties that we all wanted
to emulate. It was Tony Gwynn, George Brett, guys who
were winning batting titles, Guys who just had an absolute
innate sense of what to do with the bat and
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could basically paint the canvas of the field with line drives,
and that's Luis Arais is that way, but not a
lot of other players are at the moment. And that's
why if I'm at the trade deadline, I'm looking for
guys that put the ball in play or that at
least don't have to draw a walk. There's just way
too many strikeouts relative to walks right now, and to
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me it really stands out. You know, it was interesting.
I was earlier tonight. I was talking with some friends
from Seattle about the Mariners and they're batting in the
low two hundreds, and the question came from my friends
in Seattle sports there about have we ever seen a
team win the World Series with a lineup like this?
And I went back in history. I thought about the
Giants of twenty ten. That was basically Pat Burrow, Aubrey
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huff Buster, Posey, and then the rotation. That's how they
won games, a lot of two to one, three to two,
three to one type of games. And yet their batting
average was around the two fifties, substantially and better than
what the Mariners are right now. Our understanding of what
is a good team batting average has gotten so skewed
in the last ten years. It's remarkable. So I think
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the postseason still guys belongs to the teams that can
find a way to put it in play in key
situations like the Nash a few years ago with Howie
Kendrick and Adam eat and that approach I believe is
still vitally important and one that I think is crucial
not moving forward.
Speaker 5 (47:10):
I'm so glad you said that, because I really feel
the same exact way that you feel that Brett Field.
When you have there's a certain coefficient and I don't
know what the number is, but it feels like there
is a constant number, and you could have more, but
you can't have less of those type of players who
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are selfless hitters who will get on base, who will,
you know, occasionally turn a shoulder into a ball that's
close to hitting them to get on whatever it takes
just to move men over on the base path. You
have to have those guys. And there's a certain called
a Mendoza line, you know. I know that's typically used
(47:51):
for batting average, but you need a certain number of
players who are willing to do those sort of things,
and then obviously you'll have your variables. You know, you'll
have certain players who you know they're on the lineup
because of their defensive abilities. In some of them who
are getting paid, you know, handsomely to hit a whole
lot of home runs for you and cash in on
those base runners. But what would you what would you
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put that number at? Like about how many of those
small ballers, you know, those guys who are willing to
take the base instead of try to grab the glory
that you need to have to go on a deep
playoff run these days.
Speaker 7 (48:30):
I think you need to have a lineup with at
least three or four of them who are good at that.
Who are and listen, you can have a certain number
of players in your lineup who swing for the downs,
so to speak. And when you've got someone like Aaron
Judge Juan Soto, they are elite both in terms of
hitting for average and for power. But what you're describing
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rich You've had a chance to see up close in
this year's development of Jerks and Profar who's in the
middle of his career, but he basically already this year
has has walked as many times in twenty four as
he did almost all of last season, and is on
base percentage has leapt up to above forty percent of
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the time, which players nowadays just aren't. They're not doing that,
and so I think that that what Jerks and Profile
has done. He has not sacrificed the power and production
to get on base more often. It's difficult to do.
And he's certainly, you know, once upon a time as
one of the best prospects in the game. He's delivering
(49:31):
on that promise now as an All Star and proving
to everybody that you can still do both. It's just
a matter of I think, making good swing decisions and
just keeping that that in the zone more often. I think, unfortunately,
Rich one thing that's happened in this game in recent
years is there has been a divergence between what gets
(49:52):
you paid individually and what wins for your team. And
this is goodness. I hope of travel sports parents listen
to this, and we thought, well, we all and hope
with the coaches most importantly think about this. It's it's
what's best for the individual versus what the manager really
(50:12):
wants for his team, and that now has to be
resolved because there's no way that Profar should have been
unsigned for as long as he was well, why wasn't
he because he's not a huge power guy, and you
had teams chasing power with other players that aren't as
good as Profar, but they were, they were enthralled by
the power, and now Profar is doing both. So I
(50:35):
hope that this is a This is a big lesson
to a lot of front offices about exactly what kind
of players you should really be prioritizing in the offseason.
And yes, at the deadline now less than three weeks away.
Speaker 3 (50:49):
John Morossi our guest, no Mets or White Sox talk today,
I want to circle back to the Yankees as my
last one for you, JP.
Speaker 4 (50:57):
Cashman went down to Tampa.
Speaker 3 (51:00):
How you've got Hank Steinber or Holsteinberg sorry is down
there as well. Seventeen losses, twenty three games. At what
point does Brian Cashman's seat really actually get hot? Or
do we That's just something we talk about.
Speaker 7 (51:13):
It's a great question he when you think about the
duration of his job and the amount of pressure on him,
it is one of the longer and more dramatic and
more remarkable runs in modern pro sports history. He's what
he's been able to do. You think about again, with
(51:35):
all due respect to the great football coaches and what
Nick Saban did at Alabama and others. They're coaching fourteen
fifteen games a year. Brian Cashman is living and dying
one hundred and sixty two times a year with that pressure,
and then October is like one big long panic attack
for basically five five straight weeks. So I want to
(51:58):
have a little moment of appreciation for what he's done.
It was funny, actually, so two thousand and six out
of the Yankee Stadium, the old Yankee Stadium for the playoffs,
and I was there with my mentor, John Lowe, and
we saw Brian in the old cafeteria dining room there,
which was iconic in its own right, and we said, hey, Brian,
good to see how you know, started the playoffs, What
a great time of year, and he's look it looks
(52:20):
at us like like, man, yeah, I'm happy. But this
is also agonizing because at that point, as you know,
from both being involved in pro sports for so long,
there's nothing the GM can do, but there is right now.
Once you get October, you can't. Now you got a
lot to do. And I think that that Brian Cashman
(52:41):
is his seat hot. They still have it last checked,
like a ninety seven percent chance to make the playoffs.
As long as they're in the dance, I think that
the seat will not be actually hot until sometime in
the off season. But Brian Cashman, have you noticed a
lot of his comments in recent years? He has driven
so far past the the zero bleeps you have left
(53:02):
to give sign that. I think he's totally cool with
what he's done. He's got all these the World Series rings.
He's in pretty good.
Speaker 4 (53:08):
Shape, I think, no question about it.
Speaker 3 (53:11):
On the call Phillies and Dodgers on Thursday to our
BONDI m MLB Network Baseball Insider and of course always
a welcome guest and voice here on Fox Sports. Right now,
hey JP at John Morosi where you find on Twitter.
Pretty soon we'll be talking Lions in Michigan football, so.
Speaker 4 (53:28):
Get ready, I know.
Speaker 7 (53:29):
But by the way, and I'm excited. I think I'm
gonna be on the two pros and a couple of
Joe later on the week. I got to congratulate LeVar
in person for his son committing to Penn State. I know, Rich,
there's probably some good words putting by you as well.
I think LeVar Arrington the second, made a great choice.
Huge respect for Penn State, and I wish your team
(53:50):
all the best this fall.
Speaker 4 (53:51):
I appreciate that very much.
Speaker 5 (53:52):
Same to you, m as they try to defend their
national title with a much busier Big ten. And I
agree with what you said about Leavar Arrington. The second
one thing that Penn State is known for linebackers. One
other thing they're lesser known for. But they've generated a
lot of them pass rushers, and he's gonna be rushing
off the edge for the Nitney Lions. I'm really excited
(54:13):
for for him and for his dad. And we are
you know that story.
Speaker 7 (54:18):
I know indeed you are Penn State. The LeVar Leap
take two, I love it. I'm excited about that.
Speaker 4 (54:25):
See if you can go and destroy Illinois the same way.
Speaker 3 (54:28):
See letter JP. Be good, have a great call. Talk
to you next week at JOA. Paul Morosi, r MLB
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