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July 24, 2024 • 65 mins

Cowboys star Ceedee Lamb is not reporting to camp as he seeks a new deal. The Yankees hitting J.D. Davis cleanup tonight tells you everything on why they stink right now. The NFL and NFLPA are talking about a potential 18-game season. Jason explains why no NFL Player is under more pressure than Aaron Rodgers. Plus, a great visit from our MLB Insider Jon Paul Morosi!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 3 (00:52):
You know, I've written four really brilliant monologues in the
event that your voice gives out.

Speaker 1 (00:57):
Okay, all right, we go sport. If the Mets blow
this lead and I scream and I lose my voice,
well then it's on me and then it's on you.

Speaker 3 (01:06):
Well, but then I would argue that you were a dope.

Speaker 1 (01:09):
You could tell me all about that great caught stealing
play the White Sox had tonight. Oh my goodness, oh
my terrible. What do you want, dude? That was a
little league play where what you didn't get a throw
home and the guy a second but the runner on
when you have runners at first and third and we
kind of you let the runner from first deal second
because you're probably not gonna throw them out. You don't

(01:31):
want the guy to score from third. You read it off.
White Sox threw the ball down a second. Not only
did they not get the guy at second, runner scored
from third. That is a That is a ten year
old little league play, I argue failed to execute tonight.

Speaker 3 (01:43):
As I argued yesterday on the Show with Rich Hornberger
in your stead, Doctor Rich came and give us a
house call. I argued that if you're gonna fail, fail
spectacular now twenty seven and seventy five, Yeah, on the scene,
we're no longer at Carlton Day. We've gone beyond well.

Speaker 1 (02:01):
You may be stuck at twenty seven for a while.

Speaker 2 (02:03):
Could be.

Speaker 1 (02:04):
I mean, I don't know that it's it's all of
a sudden not gonna be a fat of completely well.
Twenty eight twenty nine thirty wins. But it's the all right,
let's go after the sixty two Mets. Yeah, why not
anything worth doing.

Speaker 3 (02:14):
Let's get passed at two thousand and three Tigers straight
past sixty. We got a guy named Chucky behind the
plate now, so it's great.

Speaker 1 (02:23):
We also now have the I would say today the
beginning of all the training camp drama. As teams are
getting set to report, we're finding out who's showing up,
who's not showing up. And boy is this gonna be
fun because in the last hour we've got the news
CD Lamb will not report to Cowboys camp. He wants

(02:47):
a new contract. Ceedee Lamb, who is, at worst, whatever
your opinion, is the third best receiver in the NFL.
This number one. It's gonna be fascinating because you know
Jerry Jones being all in on this season. But second,
this just I think of the Cowboys when you think
of what the offseason they've had, right, just think about
this for a second. I think about like like with

(03:08):
McCarthy and you know, trying to put out orders and
Jerry Jones is kind of usurping him by putting out
his own orders, and the Cowboys don't know him. No
one knows which way the team is going, how the
team is being run, who's in charge of the team.
And I kind of feel like the Cowboys have turned
into Season one of the Bear. Remember in the pilot
episode when when you know Ritchie and and Carmi you're

(03:30):
fighting over who's going to control the restaurant. Yeah, and
Karmi keeps saying no spaghetti, no spaghetti, No it doesn't sell,
no spaghetti, and Richie keeps saying, no, go make the
blanket spaghetti. We need spaghetti. I feel like McCarthy's hey, no, no,
no spaghetti, nos spagett no, go make the spaghetti. Man,
are we making spaghetti? And everybody in the kitchen's going,
I don't know. It's got we're making this spaghetti. We're
not making this back. I don't understand. That's the Dallas Cowboys.

(03:51):
That's cost efficiency and optim optimal conditions. And right now, yes,
it's I'm.

Speaker 3 (03:58):
Guessing a game of three card being played between Steven
Jones and Jerry and there's three cards. There's a CD
Lamb Guard, there's a Micah Parson's card, and there's a
Dad Prescott and they played best out of five. This
best out of twenty seven. This is best out of
nine th ninety four. Now this one tells me I
gotta pay dack this this then, why is this story

(04:20):
better than all the others? Because we've told you from
the beginning what Jerry Jones's strategy was going into the season. Right,
we all know about the all in stuff, and we taugh, Hey,
his all in means I'm not spending on twenty twenty
five or twenty twenty four.

Speaker 1 (04:34):
I'm all in on this season. And then and then
what figured it out. What people don't understand is that
there are gonna be big, sweeping changes with the Cowboys
after this season, because the Cowboys aren't going to be good.
It's gonna be a new head coach, it's gonna be
a new quarterback, it's gonna be a new everything. And
Jerry Jones doesn't want to get locked into any more
contracts than he has to Ceedee Lamb holding out. Michael

(04:56):
Parsons wants a new deal. He's already spent so much
bad money and he is time and again this offseason.
I'm gonna be around a long time. He doesn't need
to go, I need to go. The quick fix and
try to get in here. No, I'm gonna be around
a long time. This is a This is the dreaded
bridge season for the Dallas Cowboys because people don't understand
just how different things are gonna look next year. He

(05:16):
could he could decide, I'm gonna go get Bill Belichick.
He could decide I'm gonna go get Aaron Rodgers because
the Jets have cut whatever it is. This is what's
going to happen. And why this is fascinating is because
Jerry Jones does not want to pay CD Lamb, doesn't
want to pay anybody. He don't want to pay anybody
until off season twenty twenty five getting into it. And
now CD Lamb has called the bluff, saying, you'll pay

(05:37):
me because you love me and you drafted me, just
like you paid Zeke, just like you paid Dack the
last time, just like you pay everybody else. Right, you
will pay me because you love me. He is calling
Jerry Jones's bluff that in the end, you're not gonna
be able to get along without me. You're going to
give me money. And this is where you're really gonna
find out how dug in Jerry Jones is on twenty

(06:01):
twenty four and twenty twenty five. And if you think
he's suddenly gonna cave on CD Lamb, let me just
say remind you that he is now okay with losing
Dak Prescott. They didn't give him, He didn't didn't time,
new deal, didn't ted. He is a free agent after
this season is over. So barring a big trip to
the NFC title game, which is not happening because the
Cowboy's gonna stay, he is gonna be somewhere else next year.

(06:23):
And we simp no. He has decided Dak his guy, Dak, Dak, Dak,
Dak Dam. I drafted Dak way after everybody else. Dak,
who is his guy. He is not going to pay.
He is okay with losing Dak. Do you really think
that means suddenly CD well I gotta keep ceedee lamb
uh Uh. You think he's gonna cave for CD Lamb
because he always caves. I'm telling him going against the

(06:45):
grain with this and tell you that they figure out
something that's a band aid for this year, and that's
the best CD Lamb is gonna get. There's not gonna
be a new deal. It's not gonna be some credit.
There'll be a band aid for this year, and that's
gonna be the best we get and eventually Ceede Lamb's
gonna come in. He is not going to win this
with Jerry Jones. Jerry Jones has decided this is the
year I'm sticking to my guns and we're gonna wait

(07:07):
it out and get to next season and then you
are gonna see change.

Speaker 3 (07:11):
Look at that he's got eighteen million that he's scheduled
to make this year. The Prescott thing is intriguing to
me just from the in the Giant Boy like, they're
not gonna be bad enough to where you're at the
top of the draft.

Speaker 4 (07:26):
Right.

Speaker 3 (07:26):
You still have the Giants and that train wreck that
we've gotten to watch unfold on the offseason Hard Knocks profile.
You've got the Washington Commanders, who folks are trying to just,
you know, figure out one team that I'm gonna put
it all here and if it goes wrong, nobody's gonna care.

(07:47):
But with some good offensive weaponry there and a refurbished
kind of identity that perhaps you know, they make a
little bit of noise, but really it's a two team race.
Assuming Sirianni and Jalen Hurts get along over in Philadelphia
that the Cowboys are still viable in that wild card
mode either way. Dak Prescott, when we look at the

(08:09):
pantheon of quarterbacks, he may not be your favorite, but
there's an awful lot of quarterbacks that are be the.

Speaker 1 (08:16):
Really not good in this league.

Speaker 3 (08:18):
Right we talk regular season quarterbacks. You know, I'm gonna
start that list and see how many people I can
piss off between Peyton Manning, Aaron Rodgers, and then somewhere
on that list is Dak Prescott. We'll go through that
as we go. But who are you finding out there?
Maybe Aaron Rodgers shakesfeare, But do you want a forty
one year old Aaron Rodgers?

Speaker 1 (08:37):
No, you don't.

Speaker 3 (08:38):
Look, and I'm not saying I think out of all
of those three guys, I stay with it. If I
have to make my choice, I'm sorry. Micah Parsons is great,
Ceedee Lamb is great. Quarterbacks don't grow on trees. Well,
look you look at next year, who's going to be available?
Right you are you looking to say Kirk Cousins likely
is going to be available next year?

Speaker 1 (08:56):
Okay, okay, So Kirk Cousins is likely any better than Dak. No,
but he's gonna be a hell of a lot cheaper
than Dak would be. And you're talking about Dak's gonna
get over sixty million dollars a year like that, That's
that's a lot.

Speaker 3 (09:09):
Captain Kirk's the greatest businessman in the history of the NFL.
He ain't gonna be that much cheaper, No, but he
will play as reasonably well because Atlanta is another team
that people are firing on in terms of the betting
markets and what they've got in offensive weaponry. You remember,
Bjon Robinson will not be in you know, the hell
and the cell. He actually will get out and make

(09:30):
plays for you.

Speaker 1 (09:31):
This time. You're you're going to see the Cowboys. Wait,
because there's always quarterbacks who are gonna wind up being available.
There's always guys who wind up But there will be
a couple off the top of my head and say, Okay,
they'll be available next year. This guy will be available
next year. Whether it's an upgrade or not, they're gonna
wind up being availed. Kyler Murray might wind up being available,
and Jerry Jones might love to go get Kyler Murray
all the plays he's gonna make we're paying him a

(09:52):
lot less. There's gonna be guys out there, but Jones
says he has long decided I'm not gonna pay anybody.
I mean, I'm not saying ceede Lands it's gonna be said,
but it will be. Hey, what can we give you?
How about an extra three million for this year and
you come in. That's the best he's gonna get. That's
about Here's what it's I feel like, boy, it took
Jerry Jones till he's eighty years old to figure out, Oh,

(10:14):
I can't just keep throwing bad money after bad money
and extending guys because I drafted them, because they're really good.
They're still they're still reeling from paying Zeke four years ago,
four years ago when he sat out because I know
Jerry Jones wants to pay me. I know what's happened.
I mean, there will be in Mexico, remember we were
that's breaking news, Like, Hey, there will be guys out there,

(10:35):
there will be players out there, there will be quarterbacks
out there. And it doesn't close the door on Dak
I'm not closed, but it's the fact that Jerry Jones
has opened it to letting him leave okay, because the
door is open and it's like Jerry Jones is sitting
in his in his like it's like he's the dad
and Dak Prescott's his kid and Jarry they're getting an argument.
Jerry Jones opens the door and says, you could leave her,

(10:56):
you could stay and you can walk out the door.
You could not. Dak could still come back if he
has a big year. He wants to be a Cowboy.
Jerry Jones will say wonderful things like I knew this
is gonna happen. We just had some business things last year,
and now look at what we're gonna do, and I'm
I'm happy to give Dak sixty five million dollars a
year from that. That could still happen. It's not because
A Dak's not that good and B they're not going

(11:18):
to the NFC Championship Game this year. They'll Two playoff
losses last year have done such damage to Jerry Jones
and his outlook on the Cowboys that I'm sick of
being twelve and five and going into a playoff game
and two years ago watching my big quarterback play awful
where all you got to do is put one touchdown
on the board and maybe we win. And last year,

(11:38):
my quarterback is absolutely awful again and we get torched
by a guy who sat behind Aaron Rodgers for three
years and shows up in his first playoff game and
has got a perfect quarterback rating. I think I can
do better, and I think that's the biggest thing that
Jerry Jones like, this is what I'm going to sit
and sit back and remember when I don't pay guys,

(11:59):
We've had our quarterback hold us back from the playoffs
the last two years. I'm not going to go crazy
paying him, keeping with his iteration, because I may have
to do it all over again to do it again.
Mike McCarthy might be out in new head coach next year.

Speaker 3 (12:10):
He's a surprised he is still there, to be honest
with you, even with the regular season success, I mean
that lack of preparedness for that playoff game was unconscidable,
and Dak Prescott got except on this show where we
took the baseball back to him immediately as we came
out of the weekend to not at least stem the tide.
You know, he got more or less a free pass

(12:31):
because the defense was so putrid against Jordan Love and
then everybody tripping over themselves after all of their terrible
takes about Jordan Love for the prior two and a
half years, suddenly it's the Hey cold to Sack, welcome
back in and now he's the greatest thing there is.
But yeah, for Jerry Jones, it's clearly that transitional year
of playing wait and see. According to over the Cap,

(12:53):
they've got roughly twelve million dollars of cap space to
work with, so they certainly could break off a little
bit for Ceedee Lamb to at least let calmer heads prevail,
get him up into that territory whereby he feels.

Speaker 1 (13:08):
A little more comfortable.

Speaker 3 (13:09):
And later on we'll do that top five ranking list
because it's ranking season.

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And I got the text all ready to send to
my dad, Mike Carmon. I got the Mets Yankees text
all ready to send. Yeah, Mets lead the Yankees three
to two, bottom of the ninth two outs. Aaron Judge

(15:41):
just struck out looking right on a pitch right down
the middle. Yeah, and I got the broom emoji getting
ready to send. I just got my fingers hovering over
the send button right now.

Speaker 3 (15:54):
Yeah, Rice just ripped one down the line, just foul.
Get ready to let's shut down instead.

Speaker 1 (16:02):
And that's the ball game. That's and there's that's Hey Dad,
Hey Dad, suck it. We're sweeping you. The Mets got
in at five o'clock in the morning. They're exhausted, they're playing.
Didn't take off, Yankees were rested, had a nice big off,
you know, off night after playing Monday Ah dinner in

(16:22):
our own beds. We're hanging out. We might, We're rested.
We should win. No take d L, Mets win, Mets
win one went away from sweeping. It's happening again, entirety
of the subway. Minute's happening again. You're getting excitable, hind that.
That's again.

Speaker 3 (16:36):
I think you promised you were going to do this
and as your friends. Yeah, no, ass friends, I know
I'm trying to warn you.

Speaker 1 (16:41):
I know I don't do it. No, I'm sorry.

Speaker 3 (16:43):
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because the Mets did everything they could to give that
game to the Yankees. Everything they could.

Speaker 3 (17:20):
Every opportunity, every chance, and then Aaron Judge strikes out,
just stood there like a statue.

Speaker 1 (17:27):
Well, well, first of all, the Mets walked him the
first three times he came up because there was two out.
Nobody on, okay, we're gonna walk you. Look, but this
is just a point for a couple minutes. On the Yankees,
is that going into tonight JD. Davis was hitting cleanup
for them. Guy hadn't played since the fourth of July.
This is a guy that that was on the Mets
for a few years. The Mets let him go. He
did okay with the Giants for a little bit. Then

(17:49):
he went to the A's. The A's let him go.
He's been bouncing around the majors. This is the guy
the three hundred million dollars payroll New York Yankees have
hitting cleanup for them all right now. I understand Rizzo's hurt.
Stanton has hurt. These guys will be on their way back.
Stant's hurt, I no surprise. But this shows you the
mismanagement of the Yankees that this is a couple of

(18:10):
guys go out and this is who's hitting clean up.
A guy that hasn't played in twenty days is hitting
clean up for you. He had a double play, he
struck out. I mean, this is the staying when you
talk about mismanaging the Yankees and why there's a for
a team it's still twenty bleeping games over five hundred.
You know you're looking at the trouble they're in right now.
This is the mismatch a team with a three hundred

(18:32):
million dollars payroll, and these are the guys hitting clean
up for them right now.

Speaker 3 (18:35):
No, only a game and a half back of the Orioles.
Entering tonight's play, they take the l here and you
look at what as you get towards the All Star break,
you're talking about the clean up position, but now you're
still wishing and hoping that Stanton comes back and that
not only once he's back, he stays in the lineup.
Rizzo's same thing. Injuries are now just a regularity. And

(18:57):
then the starting staff outing from Rodin yesterday, but has
been more inconsistent as the year has gone down. Heels fantastic,
we'll be Rookie of the year. That was one of
the great h broadcast bloopers of the night, comparing him
with Paul Skeens and as if they were in the
same league. I get it those interleague series might twist

(19:20):
you up a little bit, but you're looking at.

Speaker 1 (19:23):
The starting rotation. There's not a lot of arms out
there to be had, and there's a lot of buyers.
I can't wait for the competitive market. Cashman got them
juiced a little bit when he went down with Steinbrenner
to that trip in Tampa a couple of weeks ago.
A little bit of a resurgence there, but they still
have a lot of problems and holes to fill on

(19:43):
both ends on the pitching staff and in that lineup,
how how are they still how are they still this close?
Because there's a lot of craps. They're selling everybody off.

Speaker 3 (19:55):
They don't get hurt, going to have a team, right,
if they don't get hurt, they're selling everybody off. I mean,
we'll see how he responds. The White Sox are what
they are. Tiger's only two games under. But you know
the big decision of do they play out, you know,
the noble run to try to make a wild card race,
or do they say, all right, we're kind of close,

(20:17):
but let's sell off some of these component parks. The
A's are drawing eight attendance. They've actually won forty games.
The angel stink, which leads us to, you know, the
next topic of conversation. But there's a lot of bad
baseball being played in the American League, man, And then
we go and grab the Cubs and a couple other
teams in the National League, the the Marlins.

Speaker 1 (20:37):
Et cetera.

Speaker 3 (20:38):
I mean, there are just future ball clubs out there.

Speaker 1 (20:41):
And again this show you how bad things are for
the Yankees that you're hitting. JD. Davis creonup, man, this
is one of those look in the mirror. Let's go
out and get somebody fast, all right, because you know
when stant comes back, how long is he going to
be in the line of Rizzo's near the end? Like
you spent all this money and you and that's your cleanup?
H inn I mean, come on, man, I mean this

(21:01):
is how are they seventeen games over five on?

Speaker 4 (21:04):
How?

Speaker 1 (21:04):
How? I don't understand. I just chronicled there. There's a
lot of really bad base but part of the bad baseball.

Speaker 3 (21:12):
Well the last few months. But they got out to
a great run.

Speaker 4 (21:15):
Right.

Speaker 1 (21:15):
The Dodgers are surging now, winners of four in a
row coming out of the the All Star Break. What
did I curse the Red Sox? Red Sox might watch
the Red Sox reel in the Yankees and the Yankees
ools are doing their part, yeah, because they're not playing well.
But boy, the Red Sox come out of the break
with four loss.

Speaker 3 (21:30):
Those twos over the weekend? Are you kidding me?

Speaker 1 (21:36):
Red Sox surprise division winner? Yeah about that. Now, before
you get to a big story in the NFL, Frostburg,
you have the the biggest on brand development for a
baseball player we could possibly imagine. I think ever really okay,
and I'm not even Underestimatedn't it? Okay? All right, guy,
what what do we got? You guys know of a
guy named Mike Trout? Remember that guy? Remember that? Oh yeah, yeah,

(21:58):
sure weather Man.

Speaker 3 (21:59):
It's about weather Man, Eagles fan.

Speaker 1 (22:01):
Yeah, sure, he's taken over it, Rob Macklhenny A wayway,
he's taken over for Jalen Hurts, a quarterback. Nick Sirianni
going to Trout to save his job. No, he's gonna
pretend he's a son Reddick. We'll get to a son Reddick.
We'll get to a son Redick. Mike Trout was removed
from tonight's rehab game with left knee soreness and is
considered day to day. No, don't make stuff up, man,

(22:25):
don't make stuff up. No one's gonna believe that. By
what I mean by that, I mean everybody's gonna believe that.
But it's funny, right.

Speaker 3 (22:30):
I brought it up with doctor Rich and I said, hey,
did you know tomorrow he's gonna do a rehabitude.

Speaker 1 (22:35):
He goes, Nope. This was a guy that we were
once comparing to Mantle and the greatest hitters of all time.
That's right, two way player. He's a monster. He's a
menace on the base pass. Look at all these records
he's gonna break, and then he's getting ready to start
a rehab assignment and you would have never known it. No,

(22:56):
So that is and then that is absolute brand is
Oh no, not even close. How many things did he
play for? That would be two, that is, yes, that is.

Speaker 3 (23:09):
He didn't even get to make it to an official
major league game. But the whole thing was he was
gonna do just a quick thing with the Bees. There's
a lot of great video today, signing autographs for kids,
taking pictures, all of that stuff. Mike Trout has always
done that stuff very good, uh, to fans, you know,
at home and on the road.

Speaker 1 (23:26):
All these years.

Speaker 3 (23:27):
But the hope was that it was going to be
a quick two or three day appearance and then he
was going to be back with the big club. So
Ardie Moreno could get people to sit in those seats
where you can get the sandwiches and delivered so fast.

Speaker 1 (23:38):
That's gone. Sure, that's gone. Yeah, No, I know, I know.

Speaker 3 (23:42):
Henny word On, Anthony Rendon.

Speaker 1 (23:46):
You know, he still makes a headline once every couple
of months, like when he plays like once, he get
one once every couple of months. What is he does?

Speaker 3 (23:53):
He normally says something kind of in it?

Speaker 1 (23:56):
What kind of bad interaction with a fan is Anthony
Rendon't had? That's good? I'm gonna read about for five
minutes on a blog on sports not or we're dead
spinner someone? What am I gonna see? So we have
a lot of big NFL stuff coming up. We got
the Joe Burrow haircut we have to get to. We
have who does he look like? That horrible thing with
the Jets? But which one? Uh? But we look like

(24:22):
we're getting closer to eighteen games in the NFL season, right,
big story today that the sides have again. I feel
like this is kind of like relationship wise, like, hey,
we've talked about it as superficially as we can before
we have to start getting really serious about it. Like
what I mean? That was the that was the quote.

(24:42):
We've talked about it as superficial, as as deeply superficial
as we can before. This is like when you come back, Oh,
well we had to talk about our relationship. Well, is
he going to commit to you? I don't know. We
talked as superficially as we possibly could, and now he
knows we have to talk serious. So I think the
next conversation, it's all God, I believe that's what's happening.
Called him deeply superficial. I mean, how do you have

(25:05):
a We've talked about this as superficially as you get.

Speaker 3 (25:08):
Now we're just spitballing like we're playing pool or Hackey
taking a hacky sack.

Speaker 1 (25:15):
What are you gonna say? Eighteen games? Here's look, here's
here's a little bit of a zig instead of a
zag on this story. We're gonna get eighteen games. The
NFL players are gonna get something big, right, whether it
is more healthcare, whether it's gonna be more money they get,
they're gonna get.

Speaker 3 (25:30):
I mean, at a minimum, they get a pile of money.

Speaker 1 (25:32):
The NFL is gonna say, wait, we're just gonna cut
out a preseason game and add a tack on again,
what you can't give you a lot for that? But
the NFL players will get a lot. But when I
think about the eighteen games, I'm not filled with as
much excitement as I thought I would. Be right, because look,
more NFL is great, right, because with eighteen games, if

(25:55):
your team starts out owing to like my team always does, Oh,
you're a limit, You're done. You're not owing to you're
talking about but eighteen games, Okay, I mixed more football, baby,
let's go. Roger Goodell has this vision that the Super
Bowl is gonna be played President's Day weekend, which again
we've seen many times. Having a big sporting event on
a holiday. Bad idea. But you go ahead, Roger, do

(26:17):
what you want. I'm just not filled with the overall
excitement that I thought of now extending the season that's
still going to begin in late August, first week of September,
because because there's questions like are they gonna add another
bye weekend? But Joe Burrow wants another buyo of that game.

Speaker 3 (26:34):
But that's how like he brought that up a couple
of weeks ago in an interview. I mean, and that
that only makes sense, right, if you're gonna go down
this way process.

Speaker 1 (26:41):
Is extending the NFL, I'm not. I'm just not filled
with the excitement of, oh, now the seasons ago till
till the middle of February. End of February. Yeah, it's
just no I don't think in this day and age,
we want more sports. I don't think we want our season.
I don't think fans want the seasons to be longer.

(27:02):
Do they like more their's port? Yeah, But when you're saying, Okay,
here's the season now, it's gonna be a little bit longer,
I don't think that's the slam dunk it would have been,
because we're already now we get football all the time, right,
you get football four nights a week, Right, we get
football Sunday night, we get it, Monday night, we get
it Thursday night. As a season goes on, we'll have
games on Friday. Now we have games on Saturday. We

(27:25):
don't get underserved for football. And during the week, okay,
during football season. I think that goes I think we
love that. I think we love games almost every other night.
But now you're saying, Okay, there's gonna be less games
on Sundays, we're gonna extend the season. I don't see
that being the fans going all right, like, yeah, eighteen games,

(27:46):
but hey, wait a minute, we're at Christmas and there's
still three weeks left in the regular season and more
bye weeks. I don't see that being the big overall
slam dunk they think it's going to be. Doesn't mean
that that all of a sudden people are gonna stop watching,
but the excitement for football more and more and more
and more. Eventually you get to that mass saturation point.

(28:08):
And if you're saying we're gonna extend the season now
to the middle of February, at the end of February, yeah,
fans are gonna go ooh, that's a lot of football.
And so maybe you're gonna see some Sunday night games,
not get the viewers some Thursday night games, because it's
hard to make that a priority all the way through
to so I'm gonna see all of these games, you
gotta start picking and choosing and lengthening. Anything isn't always

(28:30):
going to bring you more. Like if they wanted to
add another game during the week, like we're gonna add
another game on a Friday, WHOA, that's awesome. But to
extend the season, I don't think they're gonna get what
they expect. Yeah, I think for some.

Speaker 3 (28:41):
Of it, it just becomes the proof of concept right
year or two, and then you get used to it.
You're already in the preseason mode. So if that game.
One of those games becomes a regular season game. I mean,
what's the difference, right, and you add the extra game,
so now you actually have separation in theory, the trade
deadline gets that much better. I'm trying to think about

(29:03):
the overall fan experience, right. Sure, you know where maybe
you can cling on to hope a little bit longer
because the other teams in your division are fading and
you've got a GM that just says, hey, I'm going
for the downs and they go make a big trade
and go get ceedee lamb, you know at the trade
deadline since the Cowboys aren't gonna send them or something
of that nature. So you have that part of it

(29:25):
just from the football business of it. And in the end,
it's still king right. You still see even if you
take a step back in ratings, you're still crushing everything else.
Right now, you split it across, I mean, people are
watching this inane hard knocks off season stuff because it's

(29:45):
just a clown show in a million ways, like the
NFL still prints money left and right. Where it gets
nervous time is when you start talking about, you know,
the attrition and how much potentially worse it is an
extra game and an extra sixty opportunities for your quarterback
Aaron Rodgers.

Speaker 1 (30:05):
To get smashed exit. How about a football exit? How
about a football exit? How about a frost see are
we ready for football or outs? Kind of ready for
the season exit? How about a froster stadium exit? Swalling
down The Jason Smith Show with my best friend Mike
Harmon coming up next. You want numbers? Do we have numbers?
Coming off a huge game this week? That's next Jason

(30:27):
and Mike Fox.

Speaker 2 (30:29):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific.

Speaker 1 (30:37):
It's Saul Hudson's birthday today, Happy Birthday, Saul, better known
as Slash. So maybe it's Guns and Roses night. You know,
Alex Tycher's not working tonight. If we have Guns and
Roses night not happening. Can we play the ones with
the curse words as far as you know? Yes? Okay, good?

Speaker 3 (30:57):
How about one of the cursefield rants that actually used
to give us getting.

Speaker 1 (31:02):
The ring, blanker, blanker, and I'll kick your blanky little
blank getting the ring, the getting the rag.

Speaker 3 (31:10):
And then they did the math. They weighed like one
hundred and eighteen pounds each.

Speaker 1 (31:14):
Yeah, yeah, in this corner weighing eight hundred pounds. Well,
you got five guys in the band. None of you
goes two hundred pounds. At that point. You'd added a
six because you had the keyboardist. You had Dizzy added
big NFL story on the way in about ten minutes.
But you want to talk about crazy numbers. The WNBA

(31:36):
All Star Game from this weekend drew a record number
of viewers, crushing the old mark that was set twenty
one years ago. The old record two thousand and three
had one point four million viewers. This year three and
a half million viewers for the WNBA All Star Game

(31:56):
on Saturday. And it was some kind of event. Obviously
we've seen it. You saw the All Stars beat the
Olympic team. The Olympic team rebounded, they want to They
beat Germany today, so now maybe things are gonna be okay.
But beat him soundly too? Boy, was that embarrassed? Was
that an embarrassing look for the for the losers? What
an embarrassing look? Right? Now? Here's the thing and every

(32:20):
everything I've read about this today was and because of
the excitement over this year's rookie class that includes Caitlin Clark,
Angel Reese and others. Can we say, you know what, Look,
this is not anything against Angel Reeves. Angel Reese is
a star player. She's a WNBA star. She's very popular.
She's a good player already. She you know, she has
shown as a rookie she's really good. Can we stop

(32:42):
pretending that that Angel Reeson any other rookie player is
on the level of popularity of Caitlin Clark. It's not.
It's not. Yeah, I know how I know this because
Angel Reese would have played more than seventeen minutes on
Saturday if people really wanted to see her. Caitlin Clark
played the entire game. Why because that's who every buddy
wants to see. When she plays someplace, they have to

(33:03):
chan move the game. It's like Babe Ruth and the
Yankees barnstorming in the twenties. Hey, we can't have this
game at this field. We got to have it in
this big farmer's field where one hundred thousand people to
come and watch Babe Ruth hit a baseball for the
Yankees and the Yankees barnstorm across America. Can we just
really stop I get Hey, we want to push the
rookie class and everybody else in the Red and the
rookie players coming in are good, right, there's some that

(33:24):
are really good. But can we just let's just give
Caitlyn Clark the credit. She's the reason why all of
this is happening, But nobody wants to do that, Like,
I'm afraid, well, if you just say Caitlyn, that's an insult. No,
you can say this is because of Caitlyn Clark because
it is. Okay, that's just how it is. Now when
it comes down to you want to argue over how
good a player she is versus some of the other players.

(33:45):
The moves, Yeah, that's a different that's a different thing.
We've seen her grow greatly for the beginning of the year.
She become the best guard in the league. Should be
on the Olympic team. Angel Reese is someone who probably showed, hey,
maybe she should be on the Olympic team too. You know,
she goes, she rebounds, She's Draymond Green right about it,
really good rebounder. But you want to talk about popularity,
let let's let let's let's understand that this is because

(34:07):
of Caitlyn Clark. Okay, And you can try to make
up and look at Instagram, follow a different you can
do all that you want to. This is about one person.
This is absolutely about just about her. And I don't
know why. I feel like, well, if we don't say
the other player's names, no you don't. They don't say, hey,
looked up the NBA. Look how popular is with players
like Lebron James and Victor Webbina No, no, no, nobody

(34:30):
says last year, last year's rookie class which was Victor
Webbin Yama and other great rookies are also having great
Why do we have to do this? Why? Why do
we have to do this? I mean, does Angelice get
really mad at people if they don't say her name?

Speaker 2 (34:42):
Really?

Speaker 1 (34:42):
Hey, how we don't bring up my name? I'm pop,
I'm really good. I mean understand, Caitlin Clark is the show.
She is the show. She's why all of this is happening.
It's all happening.

Speaker 3 (34:52):
No, And it's the curiosity, right of how you want
to term things, and you're trying to grow your sport.

Speaker 1 (34:59):
And I think.

Speaker 3 (35:00):
Part of it is just the stubbornness that we've seen
along the way and reticence to just attribute it to
the Caitlin Clark effect. Look, the numbers are there. They're
averaging nearly seventeen thousand fans a game, as you said,
moving to big arenas town after town. Sky are doing
some amazing things right. Their attendance is up, and it

(35:21):
doesn't take away from what Angel Reese has done.

Speaker 1 (35:24):
Right.

Speaker 3 (35:25):
She's got a very large fan base and that should
not be denied by anybody or dismissed. They're just different scales, right,
different levels in terms of what is measurable as an impact.
And that game on Saturday was fantastic as we predicted.

Speaker 1 (35:43):
Erique Agumbwale eighteen to one and the ballots right, eighteen
to one FVP shot. We joked about it Friday that
once she got in, she wasn't gonna stop. She didn't.
There's your MVP. But go on down the line.

Speaker 3 (35:57):
Every measurable is there all the way to the new
TV deal that people are still belly aching him at.
Keep the growth going and yes you'll be able to renegotiate.
That's how it works.

Speaker 1 (36:08):
Seventeen WNBA games this year had viewership of more than
a million people. Caitlyn Clark's been in fifteen of there
you go. That's all you need coming up next. Yeah,
we got a big NFL story. You want to hear
Jason and Mike. This is fun is having a good
year pitching. So do you go asize small or bigger?
I never got up here. I think you got to
go a little bit bigger. But if he joins the Dodgers,

(36:29):
I'm all in.

Speaker 3 (36:30):
Okay, all right, because the other is I mean Lewis Robert,
I mean, who's been photoshopping into every uniform?

Speaker 1 (36:36):
Yeah, what the first thing I'm gonna do? What's that
after your Dodgers take, I'm gonna kick you in the
shin with it? Let's go.

Speaker 3 (36:43):
Is that a forward kick with the steel toe or
getting a straightforward?

Speaker 1 (36:48):
Is he getting a spur in from the from a
back kick? That's a bone shodding forward All right, very
I got uh so, Yeah, the Dodgers need pitching, so
it makes sense they are linked with Hey, okay, the
long road, I mean the back end of the line.
Kershaw is coming back, coming back, but like Kurshaw looks
like Sutton is coming back. Did you see that picture

(37:09):
yesterday with him Brad, Paisley and Shatner? What the hell
they do to shatter. He said, they look like he's
seventy again. Eric Kanye is coming back, coming back. We're
all coming back. Dude, you have the Red Sox sweeping them.
Come on, dude, Yeah, I cursed the Red Sox. I
really screwed them. Man, I really did you know, my
big I think you just underestimated how good the Dodgers are.

(37:30):
One of my big second half predictions for the MLB season,
Red Sox will be your surprise division winners in the
Al East. And so far the Yankees and Orioles are cooperating,
not playing well, having all kinds of problems. But boy,
the Red Sox go loose first four games out of
the breaks. Oh okay, so yeah, m that not exactly

(37:54):
what I had in mind with that prediction.

Speaker 3 (37:56):
Well, it's funny. I went to the Central. I'm like,
the Royals are gonna be on the coup now I had.
I looked at the schedule that they were playing the
White Sox to start the second half. No, I did not,
but eight and two in their last ten and Bobby
Whitton Junior a guy. Suddenly people are raising their eyebrow, going,
this guy's pretty damn good. We have to pay attention
to something in Kansas City again. But yeah, just you

(38:16):
you cursed the red size.

Speaker 1 (38:17):
I did. I did.

Speaker 3 (38:18):
That's my fault, which but I means you also then
helped the Yankees.

Speaker 1 (38:23):
No, I think you've seen the Yankees. They have not
been helped at all. Mets beat him tonight, we go
for the season sweep tomorrow, Mets, Mets, Me's, Mets, Me's Mets. Yeah,
when my dad gets back. My dad, what did is
He's doing his one of his twice yearly vacations and
all his friends in Syracuse. Yeah, he went back and
I told him, you know, we went to the airport

(38:44):
early this morning. He landed because he was worried because
he was flying a delta, and I was like, oh,
hopefully you get there, dog with that good luck. When
he got there, everything was fine, and I said, hey,
good luck and have fun watching the game.

Speaker 4 (38:56):
Ten.

Speaker 1 (38:57):
He goes, thanks, and I go and by good luck,
I mean I hope you get your kicked. You're right?

Speaker 3 (39:01):
After did he did he go over to Cooperstown and
and start yelling at Adrian Beltray or anybody?

Speaker 1 (39:06):
No, no, no, Cooperstown is not on his uh on
his wish list anymore Yeah, it's like a Yankee shrine.
I know, but he's been there so many times. He's
like literally a Yankee museum. Yeah, my dad, But I
would rather sit around and eat cony dogs and and
and and uh, go hang out with his friends and
try to play golf. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (39:25):
For for those that may want to go to Cooperstown
and been thinking about it next year, get your hotel
reservations now, because they're saying people are already booking from
Japan because the Intro is going.

Speaker 1 (39:36):
In and Delta might still be flying. Yeah, talk about this.
How many rooms did you buy? And are you gonna
lease out twelve?

Speaker 5 (39:44):
Uh?

Speaker 4 (39:45):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (39:46):
That you know of this big NFL head flying from
today is really not about well, let me just say it,
all right, It's easy as if I just say it.
My life tells me this all the time. When when
you have news to talk about, I have bad newsas
just say it. Don't try to sugarcoat it, just say it.
I'm like, okay, but a spoonful of sugar helps the
medicine go try she tries le medicine go down. She

(40:09):
was just saying a sandwich. Just say it, don't don't
don't try to soften the blow, just say it. I'm like, Okay,
here's some more chocolate. Jason, let the medicine go down.
Hassan Reddick is holding out from the New York Chest Day.
The least he didn't retire like Shack Barrett. Their big
off season acquisition, and the Jets let two big time

(40:30):
defensive linemen go because they were able to obtain Hassan
Reddick is one of the best defensive linemen in the game.
They were banking on him to get to the quarterback
thirty years old and he's still an elite pass rusher. Look,
you're talking about one of the top three defenses in
the game getting one of the best playmakers. The Jets
make this trade, and Reddick was made available by the

(40:50):
Eagles because well, he wants a new contract. The Eagles
didn't want to give it to him, and the Jets
say that Reddick was very comfortable with coming to the
Jets and playing a season figuring out a deal after that.
Was comfortable the situation. That's why the Jets made the trade. Now,
whether something has happened to change his mind on that

(41:11):
or he lied he's not coming to the Jets. He
didn't go to any of the offseason events. Nothing, and
he's not reporting to camp because he wants a new contract.
So now here are the Jets. Because Jets doing Jets things.
This is their big time offseason acquisition and they obtained
him and now they haven't even gotten into the building

(41:32):
once yet because he wants a new deal. Now, whether
the Jets, this is on the Jets, which I really
want to blame the Jets, because this is a typical
Jets thing. Now, maybe Reddick saw some deals come out
and writing on the wall for some other players and said, no,
I'm going to get paid now and I've changed my mind.
Not clearly could have happened, but you gave up a
lot to go get this guy, and now you blew it.

(41:53):
However it is, It doesn't matter if Reddick lied to
because you're the ones that said we're comfortable making this
move and you and you blew it, and now suddenly
you lost two really good players off here to let
John Franklin Myers go, You've lost he let Bryce Huff
go to the Eagles and replace him with a son Reddick.
You've let these guys go, and now the guy that
you're going to bring in is not even with it,

(42:15):
and who knows what kind of seasons he's gonna have,
because if he doesn't come to camp, you know he's
gonna eventually get here, rush himself into shape. He's gonna
get hurt, he's not gonna have an impact year, and
he's not gonna get a big contract next year. We
all know this because this is how it goes when
players will hold out. So I say this, and of
course this actually is about Aaron Rodgers, because there is

(42:38):
nobody under more pressure this year in the NFL than Rogers. Right,
He's looking at the end of my career, the end
of being relevant. If I'm not good, people aren't gonna
listen to my crazy ass conspiracy theories. If I go
fourteen touchdowns and twenty four picks and still listening. He
knows that he's looking at what could be every year

(42:58):
could be the last year of his career. You talk
about that pressure, now throw on top of it. Oh,
by the way, you don't just have to bail out
the Packers, which have done a pretty good job bringing
players in, staying relevant over the last few years, winning
a Super Bowl every ten years or so. No, you
got to bail out the Jets who can't get out
of their own way. The Jets are saying, cover up
all our ills because Joe Douglas is a GM whiffs

(43:22):
as much as he succeeds. Robert Sala is not a
great head coach. We've seen this, I've talked about it.
You are not only saying, hey, I gotta save myself
and make sure I'm still making money and being a
quarterback next year, but you're asking me to save a
franchise that can't put one foot in front of the other.
And there is nobody with more pressure on him than
Aaron Rodgers. Because this is gonna be Hey, boy, the

(43:43):
son reddick deal Boy. That sucked. That was stupid. The
Jets stink. But you know what, if eight is great
and Aaron Rodgers fantastic, doesn't matter, none of it. None
of that matters. If your quarterback is great, none of
that matters. That's why the pressure on him more than
anybody else in the NFL and now, and and I
feel bad because he's being asked to carry a franchise again.

(44:05):
They can't shoot straight that that that has things like
this happened to them all the bleep in time. We
traded for a guy and we can't even get him
into the building. And now we have to worry about
giving him money a contract and figure something out. And
it's bad. But Aaron Rodgers will batl us out of this.
You're the guy. Everything will be okay as long as
eight is good.

Speaker 4 (44:23):
All.

Speaker 1 (44:23):
It's like when you when you upseta, you turn over
a log and you see all the ants everything crawl around. Boy,
he just looked like a log. Log was fine. I'm
sitting on the log about front. You turn it over,
you see the worms, you see the roly pully bugs,
you see the ants going down. Well, look at all
the stuff going I don't want to see. That's disgusting.
And you turn a log back over. Aaron Rodgers is
the bark side of the log. I'm gonna cover up
all this crazy ass stuff that's going on underneath the log.

(44:44):
And that's what you're asking him to do this year.
Cover up all that crazy ass stuff, Aaron, cover it up, dark.

Speaker 3 (44:51):
Side of the moon, bark side of the log.

Speaker 1 (44:54):
I like that.

Speaker 3 (44:55):
Sometimes you also pull that up and there's something waiting
to sting.

Speaker 1 (44:58):
You be in a score par ready to bite your ass,
but you know what, put your hand in that log
it's kind of dark. See if there's anything in there. Oh,
sure that's taking Flash Gordon. Maybe you'll pull out a
Robin's egg. Oh, that would be wonderful. Amber the thing
that that spiked them in Flash Gordon, going all the

(45:20):
way back to the classic in nineteen eighty. But yeah,
the bark of the log. I like that, But bark
at the bark side of the log, bark side of
the logo.

Speaker 2 (45:32):
I'd say.

Speaker 3 (45:33):
The only other guy that's up there in terms of expectations,
and we talked about yesterday, is Harbaugh. What he's done
to Lamar Jackson. He's got to be the greatest of
all time. Two MVPs, whatever else, playoff failures, however much
you put on him, say Flowers, and hanging on to
the football, abandoning the run game that had been such

(45:54):
a hallmark of your existence low those many years. All
of those things come together. But yeah, for your Jets,
they've got under six million dollars of cap space according
to over the Cap right now. So good luck in
terms of a financial bailout to find a guy that
can come in. Who knows, maybe Shaq Barrett wants to

(46:14):
be a Jet. Oh, Michael Gallup. Why not all guys
are retired?

Speaker 1 (46:19):
You know, there can he rush the passer?

Speaker 3 (46:22):
I mean, hey, it feels weird to see Gallup's name
as Raiders wide receiver.

Speaker 1 (46:26):
He was it a Raiders wide receiver.

Speaker 3 (46:28):
But yeah, for this particular move, it's it's been just
dating in silence in the background, because it's all been
about all the oxygen has been about number eight. Where
was he? Why wasn't he here? Famously your coach Sala
talking about the unexcused absence, and then Rogers as soon
as he got sat now with Barstool, got all pissy

(46:48):
and started playing his word games and semantics. Well, what
really is a camp? What is a mandatory camp? Let's
talk about.

Speaker 1 (46:56):
This this moving line of what they want to call.
I mean, I was there for a bunch of the days,
but those are the days that they decided were the
important ones. Like a bunch of nonsense. But he takes
up all the oction. So the reddick thing has just
been sitting out there, hiding in plain sight this entire time.
And I think we've broached it two or three times
of Hey, you have a defense that is really positioned

(47:18):
to be a real trouble in a e loaded AFC
provided he was there to help up front and instead
now and that all gets torn a sun. And here's
the sucky part. He wants to get paid again. He's
not gonna get paid again. If he has a bad year.
He's gonna hold out as long as he can. Then
he's gonna come in whatever it's going to be even

(47:39):
and what's and what's gonna happen. He's not gonna play
well because he's not in football shape, and no one's
gonna give him money next year, and he's gonna say, boy,
I screwed myself. I thought I could maybe screwed, but
maybe the Jets are so desperate I want to get paid.
I feel like I should be getting this. You know
what you're all you're doing is because that's how it's
gonna go. But that's how it's gonna get, you know,
going back to your Aaron Rodgers and punditry.

Speaker 3 (48:00):
Even if this is a spectacular failure and this is
the end, whether he gets hurt, whether he just sucks
and the Jets stink, Sala gets fired and they blow
this whole thing up, people are still gonna listen to him.
Did you not see the reaction for the jackassery of
Gilbert Arenus.

Speaker 1 (48:14):
Yeah, but what Antonio Brown still gets his journeys of drafficking.
But as many people is like Aaron Rodgers, there's a
lot of people that want to see him fail. Sure,
and if that and if he's terrible, it's gonna be
that he's gonna take a hit. Not as many people
are gonna listen, that's a lot of weight on his
shoulders for a guy who could barely run holding a flag.
That is. I know one thing. They won't give him

(48:37):
the flag to run out with opening weekness And I
will say this hopefully.

Speaker 3 (48:40):
You know Lebron James doesn't have to do any running
on that boat on Friday.

Speaker 1 (48:44):
Take an ice cream, run out with an ice cream,
something lighter than that flag. And you do know hasan
Reddick's never showing up. Ah, he's good. He's gonna as
he wants to get his eighteen million from this year.
This year, he's got to get something. He'll show up
and it will be bad. He'll be bad. It won't
work out for the Jets. It's gonna suck for everybody.
So the Jets offered him a contract when they traded

(49:04):
for him, he declined, and they still traded for him. Yeah,
Jet's gonna Jet Yo.

Speaker 3 (49:09):
By the way, you see how he's really going full
on attacking the Jets just because the Mets win one
stupid game against the Yankees. Mets, Mes, We've won three
games against the Yankees, and then Mary comes back over
the top.

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Speaker 1 (51:13):
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better to talk to? One week from the MLB trade deadline?
Are the Dodgers really in on Randya Rose Arena? Are

(51:33):
the Yankees in on somebody besides JD. Davis? Who could
hit fourth? Are the Mets gonna run away with a
wild card? Oh? Nobody better than MLB Network Inside are
extraordinaire Fox Sports Radio, MLB Insider, extraordinaire, co host of
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(51:53):
John Paul Morosi. He's on Twitter at John Morosi. What's happening, buddy?
How are you good?

Speaker 4 (51:58):
Easing my friends? This is our second to last conversation
before the trade deadline. Exactly one week from right now,
we're going to be in full on trade deadline alert mode,
and right now we are merely setting the board, and
I just cannot wait to see what happens all right.

Speaker 1 (52:18):
Now, First, let's start here, because I am a kind
and gentle like Xerxes in the three hundreds, I am
a kind and general host. I understand the big stories.
The Yankees tonight trotted out JD. Davis to hit fourth
for that tonight. I mean, this is John Paul. This
is one of those look in the mirror moments where
somehow there's still seventeen games over five hundred. I gets.

(52:39):
I get the U have Anthony Rizzo is hurt and
Stanton has hurt, but you are hitting JD. Davis, who
the A's didn't want fourth, Like, really, what are you
doing at this point if you're the Yankees a week
before the deadline.

Speaker 4 (52:52):
Well, it's a great question. And this is why I
think the twenty twenty four trade deadline might be one
of the best that I've ever covered. And here's why.
Because you have teams that know they're going to the
playoffs more than likely, like the Yankees and the Dodgers.
I would put in that same category the Orioles two

(53:13):
who have flaws. So you have got some teams that
are looking at themselves and saying, we need to swing
for defenses here with the trades. Because you're right, the
Yankees know they're going to be in October. But they
know that as they're currently constructed they're not going to
play many games in October, and I realized to your point,
yet it's a lefty righting matchup with Kingtona on the mound.

(53:37):
You stack as many writings as you can, but I
would agree that in a serious Subway series game like this,
with the attention of the entire baseball world on New
York City, JD. Davis probably is not the person you
would expect to see batting clean up against the Mets
in the situation like this, and it speaks to a
team that is flawed right now the way that their

(54:00):
lineup is constructed. They need some serious upgrades and help.
And the tough part about it is the number of
players who I think are good fits for the Yankees.

Speaker 1 (54:12):
Here.

Speaker 4 (54:13):
Het sak Ford is with Tampa Bay. Really hard to
get him in division. Ryan McMahon with Colorado love him,
but you're never really sure if the Rockies are actually
gonna make some selling type moves. In a profound way,
the Yankees have a need for something that is not
exactly bountiful on the open market, which I think is

(54:34):
going to be a huge storyline between now and a
week from tonight when they all have to do all
those shopping. They've got to get it done, and I
just am not sure how Brian Cashman is going to
make this happen.

Speaker 1 (54:45):
Now on the shopping list.

Speaker 3 (54:46):
Obviously we're located here in Los Angeles, And I'll ask
the question for Frostburg and all those Dodger fans. Randy
and Rosarina now has photoshopped in a lot of Instagram
posts that I've seen in my timeline.

Speaker 4 (54:59):
Japie, you've been that.

Speaker 2 (55:00):
Yeah, so you got a bunch of that.

Speaker 3 (55:02):
And then it's a lot of wishing and hoping that
suddenly all these arms get healthy. Although I got to
say Kershaw looked pretty yoked at the stadium yesterday hanging
out with Shatner. So how likely is a rose arena?
Is that just wishless fools gold? And how aggressive will
the Dodgers be here in the next week?

Speaker 4 (55:22):
It's interesting. I do think a Rose a Raina fits them,
but I would caution and say he's not their a
number one priority as I see it. They still need
some more pitching river. Ryan had a great start last night,
really encouraging Kershaw's coming back. You look at the rest
of the rotation glass now they expect to come back soon,

(55:44):
but they're still at least one starting pitcher short. I've
mentioned the stat before about fifteen straight postseason games in
which their starter didn't get it out in the sixth inning.
They need some more length from their rotation. I love Kirshaw.
He's going to the Hall of Fame. I was just
a Cooper cent over the weekend. I'm not sure where

(56:05):
his plaque exactly is going to hang in the Hall,
but it'll be there. I mean, he's going to be there,
but I just don't know if he's going to be
able to get you tick innings in the playoff game.
It's just it's not been his his track record in
recent years. And so with all the variability there in
that rotation, guys, I think they should prioritize pitching first,

(56:29):
and then if you can find a way to get
a rose arena, great, But I would I would much
rather acquire the difference making arm and and then believe
that that the way that this lineup is set up
Tahe certainly has done a lot to asker and and
it has been tremendous. Yeah, I'd love to add a
righty bat, but a rose arena might be pretty expensive

(56:49):
for them to do that. And I unless unless the
acquisition cost is lower than I expected to be, in
which case sure out of way. I just think that
they've got other priorities.

Speaker 1 (56:58):
Now speaking, a low cost on Paul. Uh Paul Skins
lost his first game tonight. Will that make it easier
for the Mets to get him in a week?

Speaker 4 (57:06):
Maybe?

Speaker 1 (57:07):
Maybe?

Speaker 4 (57:07):
It may? It may, it may No uh, list Paul
Skins proves tonight that he's mortal. But but Jason, I
believe if you actually checked the the the overall line
score for mister Skemes, it was still eight and a third. Yeah,
two earned run, no walks, eight strikeouts. I would venture

(57:31):
to say that when you were when you're pitching line
is that most of the time you're winning, especially when
said performance drops your e R down to one point
nine to three. I mean, we've been a special.

Speaker 1 (57:44):
We've not seen this John Paul since Strasburg Mania, Like
it's been that where it's it's the same type of
thing as it was and and and I gotta say,
I think Skis is even more impressive because Strasburg was
about strikeouts, and he had his ups and downs, but
the overall all desire every fifth day Okay, it's a
Strassburg day is the same thing. It's a Skeen's day.

(58:05):
Everything the Skeen's day. Let's see what has he got,
what's happening. It's a Skeens day.

Speaker 4 (58:10):
I agree, And people historically around the game, they're comparing
it to to Mark Fedrich when he first came on
the scenes, and what a what a national phenomenon he was.
Now I'm not sure if Skeins will be on the
cover of Sports Illustrated with with with Big Bird, I
mean that, but but that that of course was part
of the Fidrich's profile back in those days.

Speaker 1 (58:33):
But well I didn't. We'll put him in Livy Done
on the cover of Sports Illustrated. I think that's you.
I think I see you won Big Bird, and I
raise you one, Livy Done.

Speaker 4 (58:43):
That that could happen. Media media has changed a bit,
But that that may that may be a winning prediction
on your part. That's well done. I think that with
with Skeens, I agree that his ability to be in
the zone makes which is get out in different ways
and just dominate. It seems like it again he took

(59:07):
lost tonight, but in a lot of instances there are
a lot of at bats where I'm just seeing hitters
who are overwhelmed, and you don't often see major league
hitters overwhelmed, especially by a rookie. I mean, he just
is on another level from the rest of the of
the rookies that we've seen coming to this league in

(59:29):
a long time. And I agree, I think that it
is every bit of Strasbourg, and I believe, and let's
hope obviously from the standpoint of health, that he's able
to go out there a fifth day and keep that
routine going. He just seems to really have the physicality
and the delivery that make you believe and I say
this with a high degree of hope that'll be able.

Speaker 7 (59:52):
To sustain this, hopefully longer than Strasbourg did so JP
Tonight was supposed to be the big reintroduction of a
I would be legend talking about being in Cooperstown and
a guy that you know waiting on the enshrinement just
adding the extra stats.

Speaker 3 (01:00:07):
That's Mike Trout two innings, sorenee leaves.

Speaker 1 (01:00:12):
The rehab game. Now it's day to day is how
they term it. Is he done?

Speaker 4 (01:00:17):
Is this it?

Speaker 5 (01:00:19):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:00:19):
I don't know, and certainly yeah, I wasn't at the
ballpark tonight to see it. He was obviously in Salt Lake.
But it's it's concerning and and this is where it's
quite literally Mike, as you're describing what's happened, if it
wasn't one thing, it was the other, And it wasn't
even the ailment that he's come up with tonight wasn't

(01:00:41):
even necessarily exactly what it was that sent him to
the IYEL the first place. So it's a it's now
a different concern. I'm worried. I don't know what what
the future holds here, but but it's not good for
the game. And when one of our most recognizable stars
is can't can't stay in the field, and it's it's

(01:01:02):
not Mike's fault, it's I think it's just it seems
to be just the run of luck that he's had
or health that's just kind of gone away, because for
a long time he was so durable and now it's
obviously not been the case at all the last the
last couple of years. And to me, it's it's also
disappointing too, because if he had been able to put

(01:01:24):
together a healthy twenty three, twenty four and really had
that as a catapult, he might we might right now
be talking about him as being a trade candidate about
the Abilities or maybe maybe even the Dodgers. It might
be kind of an extreme case, but he might be
going to a team that's got a chance to do
something in October. But if you've got a contract like

(01:01:46):
this and you can't stay on the field, it's just
not possible. So it's more than anything my you know,
I'm I'm a broadcast from a journalist. I want to
try to figure out what's going on this time here,
But as a human who loves the game, I'm just
that because to your point, it's difficult to draw many
other conclusions here other than to say that with each

(01:02:10):
passy day of him not being healthy and back to
me and himself, we get further and further away from
Pok Mike Trout and closer to the realization that he
he might not ever fully get back to that all
star level.

Speaker 1 (01:02:24):
I look at it this way, John Paul, is that
here the conversation. Now, boy, how much of the Dodgers
risk pitching show Heyo Tani with as valuable as he
is hitting, And I look, okay, eventually he's going to
pitch again. You're giving a lot of money, I say,
but I look at the same thing from Mike Trout.
If you're the Angels, you should have gotten to the
point maybe sometime last year, maybe you're a full time DH.

(01:02:47):
Maybe you're absolutely a full I'm sorry, but your days
of playing the field are over, and we can't risk
that because that's the big wear and tear. And if
we can keep you in the lineup for one hundred
and thirty hundred and forty games of years that designated
in okay, that's what we're gonna do. And if you
can't play inning a center field, that's kind of what
needs to happen here. And I'm surprised that that's not
been something that has brought up before that, Hey, you

(01:03:09):
know what, your days in the field kind.

Speaker 4 (01:03:11):
Of have to end right now. I think that they're
probably if he can't get back fully this year in
the second half, or if he can at least routinely
play in the outfield, there's really it becomes a very
natural conversation. And I compare him to think back to
another Hall of Famer in Frank Thomas, who just increasingly

(01:03:32):
but by the time he got to his mid thirties.

Speaker 1 (01:03:35):
That was his role.

Speaker 4 (01:03:36):
He was a DH and guess what, that's great if
it keeps your bat in the lineup. Obviously, he wasn't
healthy in five when the White Sox won it, but
he did still have some better years after that with
Oakland Toronto. There are ways to stay relevant and to
keep yourself in the lineup, and the game needs him

(01:03:58):
on the field. I care much more that Mike Trout
is playing and active than I do that I see
him running around the outfield now he might feel differently.
And I do think that Mike is a very proud
athlete who has wanted to play center field and be
right in the middle of it and have it all.
But I think that his body might be telling him
something different right now. And that's where I just think.

(01:04:20):
It's it's a sad night in the game. That that
that that as we were getting our hopes up, they're
dashed again. And it's a tough stuff going for the Angels,
but certaity for the game overall.

Speaker 1 (01:04:31):
He's on Twitter at John Morosi, that is at John Morosi.
John Paul is always buddy, appreciate your time. We'll talk
to you as things break. Maybe maybe two three times before.

Speaker 4 (01:04:42):
Yes, you never know how you Jay, Justin's got my
number and he's not He's not only gonna call me
if it's Dodger news. It's gonna be anytime of night.
You guys called me this this week especially. I'm gonna
try to keep this phone on twenty four to seven.
I'm gonna sleep in August. But this is July. This
is when we this is when we go.

Speaker 2 (01:05:04):
My friends, get it, take it easy money.

Speaker 1 (01:05:07):
We'll talk to you next couple of days.

Speaker 4 (01:05:08):
I'm the best, guys, Thank you so much.

Speaker 1 (01:05:10):
I may maybe multiple visits with John Palmer, multiple visits.

Speaker 3 (01:05:14):
Man, Look if it's as active as he seems to
think it'll be, because now it's shorting out time right
which teams, uh you know are having those hard conversations
after tonight's game. It's like, so, where are we on
the pendulum? Sellers, buyers or just writhe the lightning
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