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a kind of a wrestling like like like finger wrestling
or thumb wrestling between whose team is the biggest train wreck?
Between my yours? Man, I thought mine, But you're really
(01:02):
making a comeback on that. You don't really want it,
but bears really want that, man, No, they want that
mantle right, I put up the pole at Swollen Dome.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
You can go vote on it.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
I included the cowboys just because, well you have to
include the cowboys.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Sure, but you think about all the hope being a
dangerous thing.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
We've talked about it for a decade, right, everybody always
talked about the Shawshank hope on the positive side.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
No, no, no, no, no, hope is a dangerous thing.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
Yes, And for you and the Jets and everybody that
wanted to figure out parade roots.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Fine.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
For me, I kept telling you it's eber Flus. I
was the old man that you always warn about in
the horror film saying don't go in there. And there
he is with his beautiful beard and well quaffed hair,
and it sucks and it's getting worse every week. Tell
me that he can still try to sell the you
know that played before the hail Mary really didn't matter.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
He's still trying to sell that three weeks later.
Speaker 5 (01:51):
Yeah. No.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
The thing is, I'm glad you came in, really happy,
happy and ready to go to that positivity ready, man,
you're absolute No, no, it's good.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
Look my daughter's team won six one laugh for yesterday,
So like a balance in the world.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Yeah, because I can tell you came in really, I
mean today feeling good. I want to laugh at my team.
See here's the thing is, I'm with the acceptance. I
want to just laugh at my team now because they
you know, Jets. But you're like, wait a minute, way man,
I'm like, oh, yeah, you're still at the point where Hey,
I'm really mad because they sold me with false hope. No no, no,
hey lied to me through song. I hate when people
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do that.
Speaker 4 (02:23):
But remember when I talked about all of the people
in our media sphere that wanted to jump on that bandwagon.
It's like everything is if everybody's going this way, generally,
I want to be on the other side now for
betting purposes. That hasn't quite worked out for the books
time and time again this year, and we have all
these games decided by seven or fewer points, six and fewer.
We've run those numbers. But the reality for the Bears
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is it always was built on a house of cards
in the terms of the line structure and the coaching staff.
And I tried to warn you. I tried to warn you. Yeah,
good feelings, they are a good feelings my ass.
Speaker 6 (03:00):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
So again we'll have more on all the disappointment from
the NFL coming up. But uh, Monday Night football right now,
just when I started believing in the Rams, hey, here
come the Rams. Look at this, the NFC West is
not good that the Rams are putting out an effort
like we're getting tonight against the Dolphins. Dolphins on the
Rams one yard line. They lead it ten to six
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with five and a half to go in the third quarter.
This has not been a great game for anyone. It's
it's really it's not it's not been it's this is
this is one of those games where you go, well, somebody,
it's good. Now it's not really been good for anybody. Uh,
this is a game, that is.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
How do I say this? It's a game. It's a game.
It's a game.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
It's a game, and it's closed. Someone's got a rank
last ten to six. Uh, midway through the third quarter.
Mike McDaniels still wearing the capris and the shoes and
everything else, so it looks like a football game.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
It's just okay, this is what it is.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
So far things can change because it's still in the
middle of the third quarter, but not a lot of
offense from teams were expecting a lot of offense.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
From some good yak from John U.
Speaker 4 (04:05):
Smith breaking a couple of tackles, and even here we
are in week ten and it's like we're in training camp.
The efforts on tackling and you watched it all day
Sunday and we're watching it into Sunday Monday night football.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
It's the same thing.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
It's like that used to be as sure, hey, you
got your eight yards and you're done. Now they're pinballing
down the field down to the one yard line. Certainly
everybody with Devin h chan is holding their breath to
try to get this goal line plunge. But earlier in
the game you had to a throw a pick and
subsequent pass rushes.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
It's like, just get.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
Down, get down, man, don't go to try to make
that tackle.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
You throw the interception. Turtle down.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
Two is just throwing a touchdown path to Tyreek Hill
his second catch of the game. It is now a
sixteen to six lead, extra point pending for the Dolphins again.
They lead it sixteen to six midway through the third quarter.
We'll have more in this game coming up and hopefully
it gets closer and we get bad.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
But I get better play and we're not settling for
fifty seven yard field goal attempts and things of that nature.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Boy, do we have some crazy stuff out of the
NFL today and nothing more final nailing a coffin for
a head coach and what we got today from the
Dallas Cowboys. Micah Parsons after Cowboys another loss on Sunday,
which we told looks, listen, this is why we call
the show ahead of the curve. We told you what
was coming. We told you was coming for the Cowboys
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this season. They weren't going to be any good. They
didn't make it, all of it. You know, you know
all this by now. We thought it was going to
be a bad loss on Sunday just because they're the Cowboys.
They put the uniforms out, no, and it was a
bad loss. And Micah Parsons was asked today about Mike
McCarthy's status as head coach because basically that's the only
place Jerry Jones gets to go to make headlines. Right, Okay,
(05:52):
let's see, So I gave DAK money, I gave CD money,
all right, Dak got hurt. I made a bad trade
of the deadline. What's left people? But people are now
complaining about the architecture of the stadium after all these years.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
That's true.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Ceedee, Lamb does want he wants a curtain down so
we can see the ball. I couldn't see it when
it was thrown to me.
Speaker 4 (06:10):
Did you see the shade that was there to help
Mike McCarthy not be blinded by the light.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
If someone could just pull pull the shades down to
be fine. But Micah Parsons is asked about Mike McCarthy's
status and his answer was, oh, that's way above my
pay grade. So you know that this is you know,
this is right here, This is here, this sound effect
right here, that's me putting the final nails into the
coffin of Mike McCarthy.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
There it is right there.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
No, Mike, you're not bringing out like Uma Thurman and
kill Bill. Sorry spoiler. Now here you go, stay making cheese,
standing up. Another another nail, another nail nothing, wow, wha
wait wait wait wait no, I think you might have
a little bit of breathing room here. Hang on, there
we go, there we go. And okay, Mike McCarthy.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
Look, wouldn't you get adusmatic nail nail gun with the
number of nails you wanted to put into the coffin
there would really be much more efficient.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
I'm gonna again have to amp up a timeline because
I said last week, Hey, by Thanksgiving, the Cowboys will
be irrelevant. They'll be playing Thanksgiving Day with no stakes.
They'll be eliminated from the playoffs. They'll be three and eight.
It will be awful, maybe cerer than that. But uh,
Jerry Jones, how do you find a way, Because now
the guy has found a way to get the headlines,
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which is all we told you that that he wants
right and congratulates everybody who stole that take over the
course of the past stuff a few days that we
told you about months ago.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
Again head of the curve. It's what I like.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
But let me do we say things and then on
Monday we're proven to be true. I mean, you said
the Jets were gonna win. Though they did win, they
just didn't win this week. They won last week?
Speaker 3 (07:37):
What exactly did they win? They won? That was my upset,
specially so what I told you not to take. You're
an idiot.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
No no, no, no no. The Cardinals were home dogs.
No no, only I, and only I was upset. There
was no doubt those of me. There was upset. So yeah,
we told this is Jerry Jones.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
What he has when he knows he doesn't have a
championship team is he has relevancy and he has attention.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
And that's it.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
Look, the Lakers and the Cowboys are the same thing,
Jerry Jones, How is he going to go through the
rest of this season and still be relevant with headlines?
He's not going to go in and have the Cowboys
getting drubbed every single week?
Speaker 3 (08:12):
Right, not happening? So what? What can he do?
Speaker 1 (08:16):
The last thing is Mike McCarthy, does Mike McCarthy get
let go? And I'm you know, I told you, I
gave you a bold prediction. You love it now that
what's gonna happen?
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Why?
Speaker 3 (08:28):
And after Thanksgiving, Jerry Jones says.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
Hey, Belichick, how about you stop hanging out with the
McAfee kid and come coach a team. You're gonna coach
team anyway, and maybe you win a game or two
and get a couple of games close to that record
you want from the Shoe La guy. So why don't
you come coach a team. By the time we get
to December, Bill Belichick, Cowboys head coach, even if they lose.
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They are a weekly headline. They are what is Belichick doing?
How is he jumping in? Who does he like for
next year? You have taken a story where the Cowboys
words as we laugh at them because they're so bad,
we laugh at Jerry Jones, and that turns into a
front burner story for the rest of the year because
Jerry knows he can't go small with the next head coach,
even though he only likes to go certain amounts of
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fame and responsibility with a coach because he's got to
be that guy above him. But once in a while
he'll be okay with letting his hair down and saying
I want somebody baby to come in like the guy
hired Bill Parcells. Great, all right, Bill Belichick is the guy.
There's lots of other up and coming people who could
be good, like Look, Ben Jones is gonna want a
gig at some points, he gonna want to go work
for Dallas. He's gonna be the big guy offensively.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
The other season.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
So but Bill Belichick is someone who you're seeing coaches
fail with a lot of talent. And whereas the door
was closed for him for the Cowboys, it's really open,
and Jerry Jones can say I can get a Hall
of Fame coach. You know, the game is passed him by,
doesn't matter the optics are I get a Hall of
Fame coach. We gain a lot of attention. Maybe he
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brings some sort of accountability into the building, and all
of a sudden, maybe we're back on a wavelength that
we signed some free agents and it works well. Bill
is my guy, and the Cowboys then become the story
in the NFL December all the way through the offseason
like that, Like, I don't see there being any other
solution for the Cowboys other than by Thanksgiving.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
Mike McCarthy out, Bill Belichicken, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
I think if you're gonna go down that we do
it before Thanksgiving. And he comes out, you know, being
serenaded by Laney Wilson, who's gonna do the halftime show,
but she also gets to do one pregame as a
welcome to Dallas.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
Kind of situation.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
Look, Bill Belichick makes sense if you hire someone to
actually do the roster building because, as you say, the
the stuff's past, Bill By, it ain't the X as
it os, it ain't the dog eared playbook It ain't
the coaching part of it. It's the actual picking of
the groceries. He's the guy going to the end being
trying to save fifty cents on Well, there might be
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a little bit of green on the back ends of
that loaf of bread, but I could save the rest
of it. That's what he's done as a coach, because
I've taken the imperfect and I'm gonna work at eighty percent.
Guess what the winning is done in that twenty percent
margins that you were cutting off because it was moldy
or in this case, players that had no business with
(11:15):
starting roles coming out of the draft right time and
time again you saw it, or uh, they used to
be very good at getting rid of a player a
year or too early, and that suddenly changed in the
final stretches. And then he got cute with his coaching
staff as well. So there needs to be some checks
and balances if you're gonna go down this road. But
why wait till then that's a date on Thanksgiving against
the Commanders, and then the following week he got the Giants.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
I mean, come on, well, if you want to do
it in a big ww style where that's the point
night before the night before Thanksgiving, Mike McCarthy is fired,
and Jerry says, you're gonna see who's coaching the team
tomorrow when you tune in to the game. So again,
that's when you'll see it. And then you know, Belichick
comes out like in the hoodie with a you know,
you can't tell it's him. He's got the towel over
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his head and he comes out and takes them and.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
He's like high hiding, like Solo Soca ringside when he
first joined the bloodline.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
See what I did there.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
We're bringing everybody together across sports and entertainment, but just
the idea. Once upon a time you mentioned Bill Parcells.
You had Jimmy Johnson, you have Bill Parcells, very different
personalities and control necessary to implement their paths. And then
he's hired coaches that didn't and Mike McCarthy successful coach,
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and you're talking about twelve wins seasons year after year.
But you're not getting over that next step. But there's
got to be a bit of introspection. There's got to
be that look in the mirror moment of all right,
something we're not getting from B to C. And it's
not all McCarthy right, he can't. He can't put everything
on him. I'll put some of it, for sure, but
you've got a very faulty roster. And we got to
address the Parsons comment real quick because those blew up, right,
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because he just said, when your best defensive player says, yeah,
I'm not gonna talk, I can't even say I want
the coach back.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
I mean, you know you're done, but you know you done.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
But I interpreted that more and he talked about it
a little more today, but it was more a push
that to the side, like I can't control that. He's
gonna go get another gig. He's gonna go do this.
But for veteran players, like you're watching, perhaps the flame
on your career going out in what is just a dismal,
dismal second half of the season. He comes back. Remember
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they sucked when he was there to start the season.
Remember when they got blown out by the Saints and
everybody stunk as to the Cowboys. So it's a matter
of looking in the mirror and realizing what you are.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
But bella cowboys sense, no, sure not sense cowboys sense,
because you know the sky is a little bit different
color in the Cowboys World, so you know the Cowboys sense.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
It makes a lot of sense, makes all of it.
Speaker 4 (13:44):
Yeah, all the old is new again. You make headlines
and for the final month of the season on all
those primetime games, they don't have to get flexed out
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liveromthetirerac dot com Studios. Dolphins lead the Rams seventeen to
nine right now, early in the fourth quarter. All the
Rams do is kick fifty yardfield goals. It's all they do.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
Means you're moving the ball very little.
Speaker 4 (14:53):
But if you're moving it, you know, after the ensuing kickoff,
when you give up a touchdown, I mean that means
you're in range in twenty five if you heard right,
if you're gonna keep going super tow.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
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Speaker 3 (15:16):
A man who needs the Rams to win tonight. Jay,
How you doing, man?
Speaker 5 (15:20):
Hey? Yeah, I leave him to win by a couple
of points. We shall see they keep tee. It was
one stupid thing after the next, A weird game.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
That's okay.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
I mean they kicked four or five more fifty yard
field goals. I think you're pretty good.
Speaker 5 (15:32):
Well, I mean the one that came off the board
because of another Yeah, a procedural penalty. We've had, you know,
snap issues. You know, there's a personal file there some
weird turnovers. You know.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
The thing.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
The thing with this Rams team is that every I
feel like every time I feel like, Okay, they've turned
the corner, here they come, they got it going, Sean
mcvay's got it back there, getting healthy. We get a
game like this and I go, man, this is every
time I feel like I want to back believe in
the Rams. Like they come up with an effort that's
like this, where boy, you're at home on Monday night
and you really have in trouble doing anything.
Speaker 5 (16:08):
Yeah, I mean, we'll see. They also kind of have
a way of winning these games. But they've got to
sort out the offensive line here. You know, they got
some guys back, and that doesn't seem to be helping
them a whole lot tonight. That's the thing that I
guess would be the biggest concern for me. Like Tyre
Williams is an able and willing runner, but there's nowhere
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to go. There's nowhere to go, and you know, Stafford's
been taking hits his whole career to make a play.
But you know, tonight, it just looks like they don't
have any feel for what Miami's bringing. But the defense
is completely legit and the you know, the quarterback is
pretty accomplished, the head coach is pretty accomplished. They've got
some pieces on offense. I think they've got to sort
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out the point of attack on the offensive side of
the ball. It's a young, fast, hungry, angry defense, and
I think that will keep them in the mix.
Speaker 4 (17:02):
Jason, let's turn to big D in the next Decisions
by Jerry Jones. We got blinded by the light with
CD Lamb. So that's a nice little side story to
everything going on. But poet pasting by the Eagles. Does
McCarthy walk the plank hear?
Speaker 3 (17:20):
Or does he have to ride this out?
Speaker 5 (17:23):
Oh? I don't think he wants to fire somebody mid
season and figure that out and reshuffle the staff. And no,
that would surprise me. I don't think that's really how
Jerry will roll. Now, He's going to have to fire
this guy in the offseason because at the end of
the day, Jerry's a businessman above all else, and he's
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starting to tear at the fabric of cowboy fans with
his shenanigans and like, if you don't want to spend
any money, okay, but then like trying to run it
back with this head coach. I just think the marketing
side of him, the optic side of him, which, let's
face it, as a significant side of him, Like that's
that's going to I think carry the day. And so
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he'll throw the fans a bone and he'll find a
new puppet and they'll, you know, they'll keep being what
they are.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
See.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
I like the idea of Look, they're going to be
completely irrelevant by Thanksgiving, He's going to probably take a
long look and hire Bill Belichick. Anyway, why not bring
him in, get all the headlines. Bill will take it
because maybe wins a game or two and gets that
much closer to Don Shula.
Speaker 5 (18:27):
I don't think that's where Belichick's going. I just don't
see that that marriage, like it didn't work for his
buddy Pluscells like I at this stage of his career
having the butt heads with Jerry Jones and beg him
for money for this and that. I don't First, I
don't think Jerry wants to pay Bill Belichick whatever fifteen
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million dollars a year and have a whole bunch of
coaches on the staff making three to five millions. I
don't think that's where Jerry is I don't think that's
where Jerry's ever been, certainly not. You know, he stopped
competing for Super Bowl. So I don't see that. I
don't think there's anybody outside who's going to step in
and fix it or come in now, you know, to
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take it over full time next year. I don't. I
don't see it. I don't. I don't see it. I
think he's okay with like McCarthy. I mean, I think
they've got a million other excuses and a million other problems,
and you know, the head coach with no quarterback and
a team that can't run the ball and can't stop
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the run. Like I don't think they'll make McCarthy walk
the planks that these tickets are already sold, This is
already paid for next year, next year's tickets. That's where
you know. He'll get around to that in January and
he'll well, maybe he'll fire him with a couple of
weeks left. But I don't think anything's imminent.
Speaker 4 (19:48):
Yeah, I think it was fun to see all the
video people kept posting of folks still in the team
store standing in line for their fifty dollars hats after
that game ended. But it's it's amazing stuff. All right,
let me take this one from my guys Smith over here.
You were never a believer.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
In the Jets, mister Locke, And for if you.
Speaker 4 (20:08):
Were, Tod, there's your there's your one one sentence explanation
to it all, because that's the question, how do you
sum up where we're at at week ten?
Speaker 5 (20:20):
I mean, none of it surprises me in the least.
We'll see if he plays out the season. I'm not
so sure he will. But no, I mean, this is
this is what it is, so what it was going
to be. I think it's hilarious. Though. I think only
four teams in the league have given up more offensive
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touchdowns than them. Since they fired their head coach and
defrockd their defensive coordinators so he could pretend to be
a head coach. It's working out really well. I mean,
it's it's amazing. Do you want to talk about cutting
your nose off to spite your face to pop up
a guard? Each quarterback who still like has he gotten
(21:03):
any better as the defense has gotten worse? Like the
whole thing of it was also utterly predictable. Some people
were ready aout in the lodges and post way before it
happened like it's just it's it's it's kind of mine,
like it would be mind blowing it for anything other
than a Woody Johnson operation. But they're a joke franchise.
I feel sorry for their fans. They're a total weeping joke.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
Thanks Jake, Tom, I'm glad you feel bad for me.
Thank you.
Speaker 5 (21:33):
You'll feel bad for you.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
But I tried to warn I mean, no, you did,
you did?
Speaker 5 (21:37):
You did it for six months? How long is the
officers there?
Speaker 3 (21:39):
I know, I know you did, and all of these
guys every.
Speaker 5 (21:43):
Week and we were there, we talk about the Jets.
I mean, I tried to brace you for all this.
I tried to get you to make some money off
it by facing these losers. They were giving a life
plus money for the Jets to miss the playoffs again.
They were doing it again. They're not very generous in Vegas,
but they were being really generous with the Jets. Go
under Aaron Rodgers, touchdowns, go under Aaron Rodgers yardage, go
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under Jets win total go Jets to miss the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
I mean, could have been a millionaire. I could have
been all right.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
So now since quid pro quot, since Mike Harmon wanted
to just slap me across the face like it's a
slap show in Chicago. Now, obviously we saw the dysfunction.
Is it more the coaching? Is it Caleb Williams? Is
it a combination of both? What do you see?
Speaker 5 (22:32):
Well, it's a I mean, look, this is another one
where like who who thought that eber Fleus in this
crew with Shane Waldron and these jrmokes, we're gonna be
there for two or three years or whatever, while this
kid has sended like who I think really highly of
Kevin Warren, but I'm surprised that he didn't nip this
(22:54):
in the butt like this has you know, hallis McClaskey
written all over it, Like they should have just ahead
of this and gone and gotten their head coach and
gotten the staff that actually had a chance to stick
with this kid and not been fooled by a few
games late last year or whatever it was. And even
if you thought even Flus could run a defense a
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little bit, the idea that he was going to be
a head coach in this league and do a good
enough job to stick around with this kid, it just
never makes sense. It never it never like that was
never going to happen and then not having the foresight
to see that. But like, good luck this year. I
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mean because there were eight head coach in the openings.
I think last year, seven and eight. You're looking at
that all over again. Like so it's not like if
they thought that they'd have like their pick of the
litter this year, there'd be less competition for jobs or whatever.
When you have the first overall pick and the kid
looks like, you know, a sure thing, there's certainly somebody
a lot of people want to work with. That's the
(23:58):
time to do it. Not when he's sort of been
devalued a little bit and you wait a year and
you get him beat up and you put them in
a system you know that that's not really working, and
you put them with guys who he's already feeling sorry
for because am I getting these guys fired? I don't
know what to tell you, man, like, and now I
think they quit on that coach. Like you want to
(24:19):
talk about people who need to be fired, it's not
Mike McCarthy. I mean they need to get Eberflus out
of the building just to be able to evaluate, you
know what I mean? Who wants to be there and
who doesn't, and who's fighting and who's not. We're an embarrassment.
Speaker 4 (24:34):
Yeah, I've never seen a team with more players get
in front of a microphone on their local radio appearances
to throw the goji staff under the bus.
Speaker 5 (24:43):
I mean, it's not like Burner or Council, Twitter and
anonymous sources. I mean it started like five minutes after
that came in as soon as we opened the door
in the locker room in DC or whatever, landover, Maryland,
four weeks ago. I mean, it started that and it
hasn't stopped.
Speaker 4 (25:02):
Oh no, it's it's all over the place, And certainly
McCaskey hollis the old rule of thumb in Chicago sports
in general, if there's still a season left on the
contract the guy, the guy's not going anywhere.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
The same rule. Let me ask. By the way, there's
also a fire.
Speaker 4 (25:18):
Ryan Poles signed ringside at Monday night Raw in Michigan.
Speaker 6 (25:23):
Oh.
Speaker 5 (25:25):
I mean, if he comes out of it is more empowered.
That's an interesting look too, like if he gets to
hire another head coach, Like all right.
Speaker 4 (25:32):
Okay, exactly, all right, let's go to the Pittsburgh Steelers
there in the division. Are you buying what they're selling
there in Pittsburgh right now with Russell Wilson.
Speaker 5 (25:41):
I'm buying it. Yeah, the defenses, I mean, there's not
a whole lot of holes there, like he I mean,
what have they given up fifteen offensive touchdowns? I mean, look,
the sack rate, the pressure rate is not great. But
Joe Herbig's coming back. They just got lot off the
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buy last week. I think that'll improve. But I mean
they're in the league and opposer passer rating. I mean
they're fifth in the league and EPA against the run.
They're allowing three point eight to carry like. They're great
in the red zone. They're great on third down. They
defend heavy runs, they defend runs out of light personnel like.
(26:24):
They're great on wide receivers, they're great on tight ends.
We can talk about who they faced and haven't faced,
quibble about some of the offenses, but no, they don't
turn the ball over like. They get better as games
go on. They're a dominant second half team. They've got
an elite point differential. Russ has made the plays he's
(26:45):
had to make. They run the ball now. In the
last four weeks, they're running the ball a little better.
They got quarterall Patterson back. I mean, I I yeah,
look Mike Tommin there's a road this week. You can
look at Mike Tomlins Yesterdy you may. I'm sorry. At
(27:05):
home dog like he's there to make you money, folks
like heit eleven and five straight up the last sixteen.
Speaker 7 (27:13):
Times somebody else has been favored at Hinefield or Actor
Church or Sure or whatever the hell that thing is
called the Big the big catch up, Like, he's twelve
three and one against the spread since twenty seventeen at.
Speaker 5 (27:27):
Home as a dog and eleven and five straight up
in his career, He's eighteen six and three against the
spread as a home dog and seventeen and ten straight up.
Lamar Jackson has struggled against the Pittsburgh defense in his career,
hasn't say them that much, and he's other than ever
and he'll put up points. But I think Pittsburgh will
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win that game out right, and I think they can
win that game with that game being played in the fifties,
because everybody scores twenty nine or thirty or thirty two
on the Ravens and I don't think there'll be any different.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
He's on Twitter at Jason lock and for that is
at Jason Lock and fora one oh five seven the
Fan in Baltimore, Odyssey, Washington Post.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
Jay has always Mandy appreciated.
Speaker 5 (28:10):
Man.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
Enjoy the rest of the game. I hope the rams
come through for you.
Speaker 5 (28:13):
Oh. Thanks, I think it's gonna happen.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
Stay positive, buddy.
Speaker 4 (28:18):
What's funny is you also have Mike Tomlin do the
thing where it's like, hey, don't go be putting.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
Uh, you know.
Speaker 4 (28:23):
The new kid in Lamar Jackson's class, almost like setting
him up for the stakes already.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
Oh he's already, you.
Speaker 4 (28:29):
Know what I mean, like a play let's go for
No Jaydeon Daniels is no Lamar, that's mister Jackson.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
Open. We want we want the Ravens to be asleep
for this game. Go to sleep, Go to sleep. We
love Lamar. I mean he's really great. Wait do you
see what we got for him?
Speaker 1 (28:46):
Great stuff from Jason Lock and for there. If you
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Speaker 3 (29:00):
Again.
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Just search Jason Smith and Mike Harmon. Wherever you get
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looking great for Jason locking For and his Rams tonight?
Well special delivery Steve de Sager has the reasons why,
coming up right now with what's trending.
Speaker 8 (29:16):
Oh, there are many things to mention for startings on
third down conversions. The Rams are one for nine in
the first quarter as they fell behind. The Rams had
eleven plays nineteen yards. It's the Dolphins twenty to nine
in the lead eight and a half minutes to go.
The Rams don't have a single touchdown. Puka Naku has
been targeted eleven times. He has seven catches sixty seven yards.
(29:38):
As for the Dolphins only two hundred yards even in offense,
and that includes the seventy yard touchdown drive in the
first three minutes that opened up quickly as seven to nothing.
Dolphins lead now twenty to nine for the visitors Miami,
trying to go to three and six on the season.
Former Rams and USC head coach John Robinson died at
the age of eighty nine. Bill's wide receiver key On
(30:00):
Coleman with a wrist injury will miss another game this
Sunday against the Chiefs. The Bear say quarterback Caleb Williams
will remain their starter. Chicago's gone twenty three straight possessions
without scoring a touchdown. Bear's host Green Bay Necks. Dallas
will stick with Cooper Rush at QB and Yesterday's loss.
He went thirteen for twenty three, just forty five yards
and two fumbles. Next Monday, Dallas hosts Houston. The Colts
(30:24):
will stay with Joe Flacco as starting quarterback Indy plays
at the Jets Sunday. It was flexed out of the
Sunday night slot.
Speaker 3 (30:30):
To the NBA.
Speaker 8 (30:31):
Everything is now final. Oklahoma City has just won the
late game against the LA Clippers one thirty four to
one thirty one. Victor Weman Yama at San Antonio with
thirty four points fourteen rebounds. Spurs beat Sacramento one. Sixteen
ninety six wins for Brooklyn, Houston, and the Cleveland Cavaliers
are still undefeated.
Speaker 4 (30:50):
Cavaliers win one nineteen to one thirteen.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
How about a sweet dozen for the Cavaliers. He's twelve
in a row.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
Just stuck the twenty four to twenty five campaign a.
Speaker 8 (31:05):
Win at Chicago tonight. That was Cavaliers Radio Network WTAM
eleven hundred Downovan Mitchell with thirty six points. Damian Lillard
of Milwaukee is in concussion protocol. In college basketball, it
was Rutgers ranked twenty fourth, having to come from behind
to beat Saint Peter's seventy five sixty five NHL Dallas
led six nothing in the first got a seven to
(31:25):
one win at Pittsburgh.
Speaker 3 (31:26):
Back to you, Thank you, Steve.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon live from the
tyrac dot com studios. You know, just real quick on
John Robinson, you know, one of the few coaches who
was able to succeed big time in college football in
the NFL and you know with USC and and incredible
success and pretty good success with the Rams. He comes
in with Eric Dickerson, he goes to playoff. Think but
(31:49):
his first five years with LA with an NFC championship game.
Of course they played the Bears in eighty five. Tough
luck there. Yeah, but not many guys have had that
kind of success in both leagues, and that's really underrated.
Can you think, Oh yeah, look at Pete Carroll. Yeah,
not many guys like Peter. Okay, but we just happened
to have a couple of guys now. But boy, that
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list is not very long.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
No, they're outliers.
Speaker 4 (32:10):
I mean, how many guys tried it and maybe had
a year of success, but in terms of sustained anything.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
Because look, you behg.
Speaker 4 (32:17):
A star on Barry Switzer right, like he's a guy
that gets dismissed despite the Super Bowl win, but so
many others that that tried it through the years and
watch him and look at Nick Saban right. If if
he chose the other quarterback all those years ago and
got the clean bill of health for Drew Brees, would
we have ever had the Alabama run that we did.
(32:38):
But no, he chose like the last crusade poorly. Uh
anyway you go. I remember the one.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
I interviewed him once and it was really weird because
I didn't think this is a thing, but he said
to me he was. I sat down and interviewed him
and he would lean real forward, he said, he goes,
I'm sorry, you don't mind, I'm gonna lean forward here.
And I said, okay, but like leaning really forward right
close to me, he is, That's just how I'm comfortable.
I'm like, oh okay, And I don't know that was
a thing apparent. When it came back from the interview,
(33:05):
someone said to me, how did you interview John Robinson?
That's all pretty good? He goes, hey, did he lean
forward and lean right at you? I go, yeah, he did.
He goes tal he likes to sit. I'm like, all right,
it was it wasn't.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
To intimidate the line of questioning. I don't know.
Speaker 4 (33:18):
Maybely just if I ended listening to what you had
to say.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
If I get really close to you and I don't
like the question, pow, I could just reach out.
Speaker 4 (33:26):
I don't know, your piercing eyes at you as you're
asking that question.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
I'm just gonna lean forward. Maybe I'll just tackle you.
Its I just get right out you tackle you.
Speaker 4 (33:34):
I mean it was a big guy, so you know
that's that's one step and that shoulders coming through you.
But no one, hell of a career, a legend, and
certainly his name banning about quite a bit here in
Los Angeles through the years. There's always the list of
this that the other related to coaching and the local teams,
and you can't tell the tale without John Robinson.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
Exit outb out a fresca exit Swallen Dome. Thanks to
Jason Locking for for stopping by coming up next. After
what we saw yesterday, it is bad news for thirty
one NFL teams. That thirty second though, oh boy, it's
great for them.
Speaker 3 (34:08):
What is it? We'll tell you next Jason and Mike Fox.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific Fox.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
Sports Radio The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon Live
from the tyrac dot Com Studios. Dolphins lead the Rams
twenty to twelve, six and a half to go in
the fourth quarter. More on this game coming up in
a bit, but the result of yesterday that no one
can stop talking about.
Speaker 3 (34:34):
You would think it was.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
The first ever blocked field goal in the history of
the NFL. But sure enough, it may be the most
scrutinized blockfield goal in NFL history and it's blocked.
Speaker 3 (34:50):
It's prosper he'd be a great play by play guy.
Speaker 4 (34:52):
Well, no, you know, really excitable, went out an in
division rival.
Speaker 3 (34:58):
He'd be outstanding with that.
Speaker 4 (34:59):
That was the equivalent of Godzilla stomping.
Speaker 3 (35:02):
Out of building right there. I want to know part
of this.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
We're gonna get a game closer. The charge is gonna
get a get No, what are you talking Forget how
far away from his microphone was he? Because how about
something you haven't heard about? The Chiefs win over the
Broncos yesterday? Right, because you know, the the the block
field goal at the end when it seemed like the
(35:26):
Broncos just we we're going to win this game. And
I know there's been so many different takes out there.
I want to give you something a little bit different
about it, because, yes, oh, you gotta play for the
end zone when you're playing the Chiefs. Now, everything was fine,
it was an easy field goal. Oh the chief stink
they're just escaping week act. We Yeah, you know, for
(35:46):
a little bit, okay, but when you do it, you know,
nine ten weeks early, you win games like this. There's
a little bit more to it than that. But here's
the thing is that it doesn't matter.
Speaker 3 (35:56):
Right.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
There's very few times when I say what what the
what people are saying about a topic doesn't matter. It
doesn't matter if you think the Chiefs are a lucky
nine to zero team. It doesn't matter if you think
the Chiefs are a terrific undefeated team. It makes no
difference because this is the reality for Kansas City. They
(36:17):
are fantastic and it takes a perfect game for you
to beat them, especially if you have to play them
at Arrowhead. No matter if you think they're lucky that
it doesn't matter. You need to play a perfect game
to beat them. Now you can because you've seen them.
In the first three quarters they're not a great team.
But in the fourth quarter, while they turn into a
(36:38):
team that makes every single play, it's amazing. And after
a few weeks of the escapes, they go, okay, well boy,
they're really escaping every single week. But that's the reality
about Kansas City is that if you're gonna beat them,
you have to play a perfect game. The Broncos didn't
make one play yesterday and they lost the game because
they couldn't convert a thirty five yard field goal and
(37:00):
they lost the game because of it, and the Chiefs
are able to walk away with a win they probably
shouldn't have had. You have to play a perfect game.
Speaker 3 (37:06):
And if the.
Speaker 1 (37:07):
Road to the super Bowl goes through Kansas City, I mean,
it's just like the Patriots from the aughts, which you're welcome.
We were way ahead of the curve on that and
everybody else was stolen that one. Congratulations. This is kind
of who they are. To beat the Patriots in Foxborough
in the aughts and in the teams, you had to
play a perfect game. You had to find a way
to win where Wow, I can't believe they were able
(37:28):
to do X, Y and Z and no matter what
the Patriots did, those were very few games, very few
times they lost to Foxborough. Didn't really lose there in
the playoffs a couple of times they were able to.
Speaker 3 (37:37):
It's like, what happened? How did they lose this game?
Speaker 1 (37:39):
The Jets beat them once, turning forty five to three
into a twenty eight twenty one win. It doesn't happen,
never happened that often. When it did, it was mind blowing.
It's the same thing here. You have to play a
perfect game to beat the Chiefs.
Speaker 3 (37:53):
Now you can.
Speaker 1 (37:54):
It's not that, you kid, It's not the point where, hey,
you got to play a perfect game, you might not win.
You can play a perfect game and win because you
can get to Mahomes. You can force him to throw
the football when he when he's not ready. He doesn't
scramble as much. He's not the running threat that he
was a few years ago in he.
Speaker 3 (38:09):
Gets to the side.
Speaker 1 (38:11):
Yeah, when you get hit him in the failure. But
it's not that you Hey, you play a perfect game. No,
if you play a perfect game, you can beat them.
We have seen also got to beat the refs. We
have seen that. That's part of a perfect game. It's
part of the anas game. It's part of perfect game.
Speaker 3 (38:22):
Sure, referees are in charge of the game too, and
they're charged to throw in the flags. Yeah, perfect game.
Speaker 6 (38:27):
Pretty sure teams have shown up and played perfect games
and still lost them.
Speaker 4 (38:31):
Anyway, the idea be like that other time twenty second
in turnover differential, they are minus four on the year.
So you can get it right. You can get your
your possession, but you got to make the most of
it right, You're not they're not getting into shootouts with
you most weeks in this iteration of the squad. Now
there are the odd weeks where Kareem hunt Uh and
(38:54):
the passing attack do get in stride and.
Speaker 3 (38:56):
Curious to see.
Speaker 4 (38:57):
As we get deeper into the season and the web
starts to turn, because that's starting to become a factor
a little bit, especially wins when we start looking at
kicking games and where perhaps if your kicker is a
little bit less than you get full advantage. Butker in
what you're doing in the punting game. But for Mahomes
and the Chiefs, yeah, you got to play sixty minutes.
(39:20):
There's no there's no let up. And if it's in
a one possession game, I'll throw my hat in with
Andy Reid number fifteen every time then until they're deposed.
Speaker 5 (39:31):
Right.
Speaker 4 (39:32):
The Rick Flair mantra to be the man you gotta
beat the man has never been as appropriate since Brady's
final days in the NFL. I mean, this is it.
This is the squad that somehow will find a way. Now,
I didn't have that on my Bengo card, that you'd
have a block field goal of that length, right, because
(39:54):
if it's like a fifty two yard or whatever, where
we start talking about their trajectory and maybe you get
a finger to but whatever. Now here's here's one nice
and easy, uh and succeed and proceed. Yeah, everybody, we
can do all the hot take nonsense we want about
this squad, but you can't tell me that there's any team.
Speaker 5 (40:14):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (40:14):
That's that's in their category because everybody else is far
further flawed, Right, they have no obvious problem.
Speaker 3 (40:22):
No, and that's you.
Speaker 4 (40:22):
And that's the obvious problem, like the Ravens defense stakes,
the Bengals defense stakes, like all that. They the Chiefs
aren't running away and hiding, but they don't have an
obvious deficiency.
Speaker 1 (40:33):
And it ain't gonna happen in the playoffs. You're not
You're not gonna go in. And that's why this this
Bills game is so unbelievably huge, because they will waltz
the number one seed and you're you're talking about the
Chiefs and the Lions being just a couple of playoff
wins away against inferior teams from meeting in the super Bowl. Like,
it's not happening in Kansas City. If you're playing in
Kansas City, that perfect game, I mean, that's not gonna happen.
Speaker 4 (40:56):
I wonder a couple of weeks revisited revisiting this with
Todd Furman later in the week, what that game is
on a neutral field, you know, like in New Orleans.
Speaker 1 (41:04):
Exit about a Fresco exits swelling dome. Jason Smith, Mike
Harmon coming up next, We'll tell you what the future
holds for one infamous NFL starting quarterback.
Speaker 2 (41:13):
Fox be sure to catch live editions of The Jason
Smith Show with Mike harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern
seven pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 1 (41:25):
Here'll be a lot of craziness going on time out
on the field right now.
Speaker 5 (41:29):
Now.
Speaker 1 (41:29):
Meanwhile, looking back at yesterday, you know we started the show,
we joked around about which team was more of a
dumpster fire minor yours.
Speaker 3 (41:36):
And yours is up.
Speaker 1 (41:37):
Your your team is like my team is like leading
the pack, but your team is like making this huge
strides in the.
Speaker 3 (41:43):
Reretch stake coming. You know, It's like, here's a closer.
Everybody knows this.
Speaker 1 (41:47):
Remember in Seabiscuit when he was I think he was
racing against uh who is the big horse he was
racing against. It was not Man of War, but it
was some kind It was mister Ed. Mister D opened
the door and said hello, I'm mister D.
Speaker 4 (42:03):
And when the theme song started playing, Sea Biscuit became
this big you know, became this big race horse.
Speaker 1 (42:07):
And then I think he ran in a race again.
I want to say, I want to say man of
War which was a huge, unbelievably huge horse, and the
scene where they had their one on one race where
Sea Biscuit is winning and they show you this unbelievably
large horse is just bearing down on him and I'm going,
oh my god, this is so intense. This is such
(42:28):
an incredible seed of filmmaking where this horse is just
gaining and gaining it it's so much bigger than Admiral
war Admiral, Yeah, that's that.
Speaker 4 (42:37):
That's kind of in my head. But I'm like, it
wasn't that a horse recently? No, here's another one. Yeah, no,
And that that's kind of what it is like.
Speaker 3 (42:43):
The Jets.
Speaker 1 (42:43):
The Jets are are uh, the Jets are out their
Sea Biscuit. Hey, we're out to a lead. But no, no,
but you are that big, you're war Hey, we're coming
to get you. We're coming to get you with all
these bands, we're coming, We're sewing.
Speaker 3 (42:53):
You are dysfunctioned right now.
Speaker 4 (42:54):
You're not gonna keep me in the Chicago's the oversized
heart and big shoulders.
Speaker 3 (42:58):
And here we are charging down the stretch to look
at every bit the train wreck that your jets are.
But luckily, while we will get to the bears.
Speaker 1 (43:09):
I can tell you exactly how the rest of this
train wreck craptastic season and the rest of Aaron Rodgers'
career is going to go. Could you do it to
any melody of I can show you the world? No,
song is actually a whole new world.
Speaker 3 (43:26):
It's a world.
Speaker 4 (43:27):
Yeah, but I wanted you to hee you up with
the first line of the song.
Speaker 3 (43:32):
Ah.
Speaker 1 (43:33):
No, No, there's no one to tell us no or
where to go, or to say we're only dreaming.
Speaker 3 (43:36):
It's fine, a new, fantastic point of view. It's like
a shooting star. We've come so far. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (43:43):
Uh, and now Pebo Bryson and Natalie Cole a whole
new world.
Speaker 3 (43:49):
Anytime we get Peeble Rice into the show, we've won.
Speaker 5 (43:53):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (43:54):
First of all, let me tell you this.
Speaker 1 (43:55):
The Jets lose yesterday to the to the Cardinals, and
obviously it was it's Jets football for forty years.
Speaker 3 (44:02):
Wait, I thought we're done with the Jets.
Speaker 1 (44:03):
They give you this is the funeral I'm telling you.
I'm telling you what's gonna happen for the rest of
Aaron Rodgers' career. He's gonna suck and retire. Okay, but
that's a that.
Speaker 3 (44:14):
That was really well. To get a little bit more
economy of words, right, a little bit.
Speaker 1 (44:18):
More detail in it is that look the effort yesterday.
The Jets have too many games like this right all
the time where they come up flat and they give
you hope and then they show they come up with
bad performance and a lack of effort. And that's forty
years of the Jets, right, doesn't matter if it's Jeff
Ulbrick or Robert Sala, it doesn't matter Todd Bowles, makes
no difference. They give you hope and then they come
(44:39):
up with they fall short on expectation, they fall short
on effort. Again, how are you flat when it's a
must win game? And the Cardinals looked like a team
that was a varsity scrimmaging against the jv Every play
was chunk yards. Everything that Cardinals wanted to do they did.
They were averaging seven yards of carrying. They had twenty
five plays in the first half, twelve first downs. Right,
(45:00):
Jets are just abysmal. Now, the two things for Aaron
Rodgers right, the micro and the macro point. The micro
point is this my biggest fear for him is realized
he just can't go downfield.
Speaker 3 (45:08):
Anymore.
Speaker 1 (45:09):
I told him the beginning this, say, what's my big thing?
Rodgers can't throw downfield anymore?
Speaker 3 (45:13):
And he can't. He can't.
Speaker 1 (45:14):
The Jets didn't have one pass yesterday more than ten yards.
And you, this is Garrett Wilson, Devonte Adams man. You're
not trying to make it work with a couple of
Jags that we don't even know who the number one
wide receivers.
Speaker 3 (45:25):
You're talking about two of the top receivers in the game.
Speaker 1 (45:27):
You can't complete a pass downfield more than ten yards long.
Yack was fifteen yards. I mean, I've seen enough of
Aaron Rodgers to know that he just can't do it.
He can't throw downfield. He is a diminished quarterback, and
he is now trying to just keep it alive via magic. Now, maybe,
and I'll give a little bit potential to that, coming
(45:48):
back from a big injury at forty maybe he's not
still he's not at the overall strength that he would
be at another year from now.
Speaker 3 (45:56):
But then again, he'd be forty one. But I'm willing
to go down the O'donnald's peech from Beautiful Girls.
Speaker 4 (46:02):
He'll be thirty thirty five then that's not ideal, but
you know, God, Jesus.
Speaker 1 (46:09):
But the first thing is that he can't go downfield anymore.
And that's a big thing. And teams know, we only
have to defend a certain time. They don't have to
defend more than fifteen yards. It's it's really difficult to
watch him because after after ten games, I know he
can't go downfield. He would have gone downfield by now
if he could, but he can't. Last time I went
downfield was the red line, the red line. Mike Williams
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come back at him on that catching that red line
touchdown yesterday. How about me giving you that Bowl prediction
that Mike Williams is gonna score a touchdown yesterday.
Speaker 3 (46:36):
Boom, I'm red hot. But so that's the first thing
about Rodgers.
Speaker 1 (46:41):
That's the first thing about Rogers is that I told
you my biggest fear. He can't go downfield, and he can't,
and that's killing the Jets. He's got to get rid
of the ball fast. He can't. He can't buy time
like he used to. He's just not the guy and
it looks like he's done. He doesn't want to go
out like this. But I'll tell you exactly how the
rest of Aaron Rodgers season end career is going to go.
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And you tell me if you disagree with me. Things
are so really bad for the Jets. Look at them.
They're trying to make it, trying to make it work
right now with a defensive coordinator who's never had any
head coaching experience. The defense is terrible, the offense can't
do anything. Rogers is looking realizing what it really means
to be quarterback in New York. Oh man, So this
is what it means like when you don't win. This
is what this is. This is miserable. At my worst
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in Green Bay, it was never like this. Yeah, welcome
to New York. Now you're realizing this is what it
means to be a quarterback in New York when you fail.
Now the back of the back pages of the New
York Post, the Daily News, Aaron Rodgers, false savior, all
these things. Now you understand how bad it is. Right,
you're dead, You're on the you're on the front page
book ending. He's getting he's he's understanding. Boy, this is
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really bad. This is really really bad. So what's gonna happen?
He's gonna sock missed the playoffs for the next twenty years. Okay,
you gotta Prossburg really is just he's on.
Speaker 6 (47:58):
I mean we've been telling you this, yeah, ever since
you guys signed him, and you just wouldn't believe it.
If you see, you could start like, hold you everything
that's unfolded with Rogers. You could start like a new
social media and instead of Twitter, say listen, you only
get thirty characters. You just tweeting thought we were piling
on the Jets that you thought we just hated your team. No,
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we were telling you exactly how it went. No, No,
you do, but you do though you do hate my team.
Speaker 3 (48:24):
Well, it's done.
Speaker 4 (48:24):
But the two are not necessarily mutually. I mean, both
things can't be true. But here's what's gonna happen.
Speaker 1 (48:31):
He's not gonna play the rest of the season because
this is unlike anything he's ever experienced. It's his negative,
more negative than he ever expected it to be. He'll
play a few more weeks and then some kind of
injury and he'll be shut down for the rest of
the season and he's not going to play. And it's
gonna be a combination of the team Rogers knowing that
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this is done, and he doesn't want to hurt whatever
he could do in the future more by playing. So
what's gonna happen then is that he's gonna sit, and
then in the off season he's gonna look around and go, Okay,
I need to get out of here. This is awful
and it's an easy out for the Jets and him
contract wise. He doesn't want to end like this, but
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then again, you don't always get to pick your ending.
And if you can't throw the ball, you can't throw
the ball. But what he's gonna do is this is
he will find the right time to go out for
the Jets, where where like, hey, if this is my
last game in the NFL, this is it, Like I'm
gonna go out on ups. They beat the Patriot beat
the Dolphins. In the game, he throws a couple of
touchdowns and the Jets are four and twelve, four and eleven,
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whatever it is. But that's when he's gonna be out
and he's gonna have a great ending because that's gonna
be how I end. And then in the off season
he's gonna look around and if there is a team
that feels, hey, we can make Aaron Rodgers into a
great we need a guy for a year or so
and what we think we can win. We're not gonna
get a quarterback in that time, but we like what
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Aaron Rodgers does in the offense we have. We can
take advantage of what he can do. If he can't
throw the ball all the way downfield, that's okay because
that's not the offensive system we have. We know we
can make it work, and Rogers will go there for
a year. It's kind of like when Farv went to
the Jets. He really didn't want to go there. He
wanted to get to the Vikings, but the Packers wouldn't
trade him there, so he did a year with the
Jets year, then retired and then went to the Vikings
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where he wanted to be and was there for two years.
Speaker 3 (50:23):
So that's kind of what Rogers will do.
Speaker 1 (50:25):
He will then look around and say, okay's any team
in that boat where I can come in as a
starter for a year, and then that will be it
because I don't want to end. I don't want to
end this way if I don't have to, And if
there's a team out there that says, yes, come in,
you're our guy, he'll go.
Speaker 3 (50:39):
But if not, he will retire.
Speaker 1 (50:42):
So you got to realize that how many more games
can we really see Aaron Rodgers play football in the NFL.
Maybe it's three or four because the possibility exists. You
get to the end and the rest of the thirty
one other NFL teams or thirty because you're not going
back to the Packers, but thirty teams are gonna go. Yeah,
we're pretty good. Maybe there's a team, maybe there's a
one team. It's kind of like Brady are right, but
we still even though he's a little bit diminished, we
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can win. And Rogers can sell himself like, I'm Brady
leaving New England, but I can't go back here because
this is awful.
Speaker 5 (51:10):
Man.
Speaker 1 (51:11):
I gotta get out. This Jets thing is not working,
and he goes somewhere for you.
Speaker 3 (51:14):
But if not, he retires. That's how the rest of
Aaron Rodgers year and career is gonna go.
Speaker 4 (51:19):
Yeah, but that's part of the way Aaron Rodgers ended
up a Jet was the I can go have another act.
Look what Matt Stafford was able to do getting out
of Detroit and heading to the Rams. Look what Brady
had done. Brady could still throw the football. Brady had
personality conflict with the coach slash GM, but there was
nothing saying he was a diminished asset in terms of
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playing football. Aaron Rodgers coming off an injury and he
can't get it done with superstars and they've gone out
and gotten all of his guys back to back year.
Now you can argue about the merits of bringing in
Lazardi's on ir or Randall Cobb last year doing a
great job his first year as a broadcaster. By the way,
enjoyed listening to him, but his hand pick guy was
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his OC all of that stuff, and he's been terrible.
The hell team is looking around going, you know what,
let's bring that surly s ob in here.
Speaker 1 (52:12):
You never know where the coaches might wind up. You
never know where coaches might wind up. We're in where
you're in a case. Look look look at the look
at the the bucks right go back to Whin Brady.
They had Jamis Winston. Jamis Winston was a dynamic quarterback,
but boy threw too many interceptions. We need somebody to
come in here, and we have a lot of good players.
We need someone to come in and lead this team. Yeah,
but bring you a little bit of that.
Speaker 4 (52:32):
Ball and can be efficient. And most of the time
Rogers is still efficient. He just can't push the ball right,
You're right, But but Brady couldn't throw the ball at
the end, Like how far?
Speaker 3 (52:42):
How far could Tom Brady throw the football his last
couple of years in Bay Not, dude, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (52:48):
Go a lot for go look at that NFC Championship
game against the Packers when he couldn't move the ball
throw further than they are yesterday.
Speaker 4 (52:57):
But it's also not just a matter of unquirking the
deep ball. It's about timing, it's about routes or whatever.
And your guy certainly doesn't have that at his disposal.
Speaker 1 (53:06):
Right, But if it's an offense that, if it's an
offense like like Tuoa has in Miami, okay, that might work,
right because he just chucks it up that you know,
and guys run under it.
Speaker 3 (53:15):
You know. So there's an offense, there's an offense.
Speaker 1 (53:17):
Out there that that someone can say, hey, we we
design it around him where we have a really short window,
we can't draft a quarterback. We let let's go with
this for a year. Right, that could absolutely happen.
Speaker 4 (53:29):
Well, be curious is to get him in the honest
moment because he gets he got really chirpy, and he
was okay with people not liking him for him. But
once you start breaking apart the fact that he can't
play football anymore psychologically, it's a whole other space