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Speaker 1 (00:30):
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(00:54):
we have a full slate of NBA to get to tonight.
We got big stuff out of the NFL. But let's
understand that today earlier today was about one thing. The
McRib is back in less than two weeks, well into
it again, something that passes understanding why it's so popular.
But the McRib is back in two weeks.

Speaker 3 (01:14):
Getting people like being taunted about things coming back into
their lives and leaving for a moment, right it ste
we're getting ready for Thanksgiving. What happens at Thanksgiving? People
go home, They go to the local bars, they go
to the local restaurants. Maybe they have meetups at their
old high schools or whatever, and maybe they think that
those old flames still burn. Much like that is the

(01:37):
McRib that you come back for it one more time
and then you take a bite, you say this sucks,
and then you walk away, just like all those old
flames that you run into and you realize.

Speaker 1 (01:48):
Bad idea, man, bad idea. Why are you yelling? We're
not even a minute into the show and you're yelling
crazy about the mccrib. What is wrong with you? What
is what is that? We just started the show? Man?
The bulls wronged by the Bucks.

Speaker 3 (02:02):
Literally it went final as I'm sitting here and I'm
salty because they then put up a little picture of
your guy brunts in which means it's Nicks, Nicks Nicks
the rest of the night.

Speaker 1 (02:11):
So yeah, I'm on edge, I'm on tilt already. Wow,
I thought you're gonna say they put him a picture
of Doc Rivers, and it was yet another win by
Doc Rivers over the Bulls. No, I don't know that
I've seen a picture of Doc in a while. Here, Okay,
they're showing everybody else.

Speaker 3 (02:26):
I've seen the last man on the bench more than
I've seen Doc tonight. It's almost like they were told,
don't show him, don't show him, don't showhim.

Speaker 1 (02:34):
He's just gonna say thing. Ah. So yeah, look big
night in the NBA. Yes, the Knicks and the Suns
are coming up. So you said it, I didn't You
said it? I didn't.

Speaker 3 (02:42):
I did It was a nice little picture of Brunson
that suddenly crept into the corner of my television.

Speaker 1 (02:46):
Uh sure. And and really, you know another thing we're
seeing right now is, boy, the seventy six ers are
really want to lead that race for all the Cooper
flag ping pong balls they could possibly get as they
are getting thumped by the Grizzlies by twenty midway through
the fourth quarter. And look, you know something we're gonna
put it up today. And is you know we talked
about it last night the Joel embiid. I mean the

(03:09):
time in Philadelphia, it's just it's just coming to an end, right.
We talked about that. It's more a fadea complete than
it is anything else. He's got to come back and
play well for a little while and then it will
be easy for them to deal him. He's got twenty
nine tonight. He's having a pretty decent night, but it
doesn't matter because the Sixers are getting drilled by twenty. Well. Well,
George left with injury.

Speaker 3 (03:30):
Yes, yeah, you rebound corralled it and they're like, oh,
he's gonna turn to go up court and just stopped
on a dime.

Speaker 1 (03:37):
That was it? Like oh okay, so there you go.
You had the under at fifteen games. There you go. Now.
We talked about last night about where things are at
with and the promos running on Fox Sports Radio now
about how, hey, when you're getting called out and you're
supposedly the MVP and the leader of this team, which
is not and you get called out by somebody else
about your effort, you haven't really played, you're still not

(04:00):
in shape, you're injured, you're in and out of the lineup.
How much longer is this really going to go? In Philadelphia?
They're going to move on. Both sides need a fresh start.
But what's going to accelerate this timeline? Because yes, it
could be done by the trade deadline in February, or
it could be something that happens after the season, when
the Sixers get an idea of what they want to
do moving forward. But what's going to accelerate this is, Hey,

(04:23):
even with them beating the lineup, you go out and
get drubbed every night. Just can't keep doing that in perpetuity, right,
It's only going to go for so long and then
we're gonna get out of the holidays and after Christmas
it's going to be Okay, New Year. Let's see where
we're at. And if we're you know, six and twenty
five or whatever it's going to be, it's time to go.
It's time to make a move because clearly, even with
him back, there's no energy. We're losing big to teams

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that we shouldn't be losing big two and so it's
time for us to make this move. So if you
the more games you see like this from the Sixers,
that's going to hasten the Jewel MB trade, which again,
it's going to happen. It's just a matter of when,
line now or the end of the year is playing
well tonight, and the better he plays for a short
amount of time, And think what the Sixers are hoping.

(05:06):
If we're gonna do this and we're gonna make a move,
he needs to play well for a short period of
time and we need to get killed every game, and
so tonight that's kind hey, all right, he's shooting well,
he's got twenty nine points tonight. All right, he's moving okay,
and we're losing by twenty. This is gonna foster this
going Bay. That's exactly what we want, Joelle. We want
you to be really good and we want to keep
losing so you can make that trade.

Speaker 3 (05:26):
Yeah, you get the audition and proof of concept there is.
He's back, he's healthy. Let's go, let's make something happen.
Twenty nine and nine tonight, nine of eighteen, shooting perfect
from the line, Tyrese Max. He also made it back
in and look, man, this is not exactly a fully
loaded Grizz team that they're getting drum by either, Right,

(05:48):
Joe Moran's still not part of the equation here. You
got Desmond Vanes, got nineteen Jaron Jackson, I mean you
got a solid team, right, Brandon Clark's back in in
the lineup all that, but you're a one superstar isn't
even there and they're still up twenty on you. So
so what does that tell you where you're at in
this process? Because even though Paul George left, you did
have at least for the moment. You're the term that

(06:11):
we used to use all the time. Remember we killed
it big three and you still got your ass kicked.
So all of that to say, here you go, he's healthy,
he's motivated for the moment, Come and get him. I'd
be the used car lot kind of thing right now here.
It still runs, still runs. Sometimes sometimes you gotta kick it.

(06:32):
Sometimes maybe you gotta pump the gas three times, turn
the key halfway, turn it back, and then really turn
it as fast as you can and maybe it'll catch.

Speaker 1 (06:43):
That's where we're at with Joel Embiid. It's all of
more nba oy the way, but trust me, it's going
to happen and being if if you want to see
our take on it last night, it's up there Fox
Sports Radio on Twitter and I just reposted as well
as you can catch our best of there.

Speaker 3 (06:56):
It's over on Instagram as well at Jason Mic Show.

Speaker 1 (07:00):
On the Gram, you gotta say on the Gram. On
the Gram, you gotta say on the Gram.

Speaker 3 (07:04):
Did they still say on the Gram on the ground,
you're the arbiter of things a little younger than us.

Speaker 1 (07:08):
What are you saying the gun?

Speaker 4 (07:09):
Yes, they still say the Gram.

Speaker 1 (07:10):
They still no, no, no, on the Gram.

Speaker 2 (07:13):
Not on the Gram, just the Gram.

Speaker 1 (07:14):
Just the Gram. But it's got to be something. You
can't just say it's the great. You gotta say it's
on the Gram. So on the ground, well.

Speaker 3 (07:19):
Somewise you might just be trying to buy something on
or buy the graund No, no, no.

Speaker 1 (07:23):
No, you're you just say check the Gram? What was that?
What was that thing? For a few years ago, that
was the viral sensation where it was a they did
a challenge text your mom or dad justice and see
what they write back, and it was for two grams
is forty dollars and then just see what they write back.
Well came back.

Speaker 3 (07:45):
It was expensive, saffron as I went to make my
holiday roles.

Speaker 1 (07:52):
But I always like, and I think all of us
like it, when other people get an understanding of what
your world is like, Like you know, you always say,
you know, walk a mile in my shoes. I understand
what my life is like, and it's really dim. You know,
it's hard to do that. You have to try to
understand where things are coming from from other people. Every
time someone says something or does something, I try to
think of it from their perspective. But it's really hard.

(08:14):
I go, Okay, really, I don't get exactly what, you know,
what what really motivates them or what what affects them
every day? And today, for me was one of those
days where I think many people understood, oh, this is
what Jason's life is like, because today was the day
that everybody found out, Oh, my goodness, Jets owner Woody

(08:34):
Johnson is like a lower profile Jerry Jones. That's why
the Jets don't when now I understand because he wanted
to bench Aaron Rodgers in week four and had a
meeting with everybody because he called for a practice, not
the coaches, not the GM He called for a practice though,
because that was a day he was going to fire
Joe Douglas. Like these are the things that Woody Johnson does,

(08:54):
like like he's too obsessed with social media. So let's
make a trade. Let's go get Davonte Adam let's go
get Mike william Let's go get these guys. Like people
now understanding, Oh now I know, Oh man, I feel
bad for Jason because now I know why the Jets
don't win because that Woody Johnson is Jerry Jones, not
Jerry Jones life because some of the stuff he's doing,
whooh it is one comparable to Jerry Jones, sometimes even

(09:17):
worse than Jerry Jones. But like cause I don't think
Jerry Jones ever had a meeting about benching dak when
he wasn't playing well. But like the fact that he
does it, he's been able to do it more lower profile,
like people are just finding out now going, Oh man,
I just I walk that mile on Jason's shoes today
and not I completely understand and feel for him because yeah,
he's got he's got Jerry a low profile Jerry Jones

(09:38):
as his owner.

Speaker 3 (09:40):
It's funny because it's been happening in plain sight in
New York and New Jersey for how long now, right,
But because Jerry is over the top P. T. Barnum
on steroids, as we've called it low so many years.

Speaker 1 (09:58):
And then you add.

Speaker 3 (09:59):
The resounding dumpster fires that have been Cleveland and Chicago
and Jacksonville. Like Jacksonville doesn't get much much run. But
because of Shod Cohn and his son in ae W,
they're getting a little more juice and all of this
stuff now. But yeah, but because of Jerry Jones and oh,

(10:20):
I forgot Mark Davis. Can't forget Mark Davis. So Mark
Davis and Jerry Jones are atop the metal stand. So
Johnson's been able to kind of work in quasi anonymity
because it's just the brand as opposed to the owner
up front, because he hasn't been standing in front of
a microphone and waving at you, or sitting there with
a bowl cut, or being Jerry Jones showing up on

(10:43):
radio multiple times each week. Yeah, it is now painfully
apparently obvious for everybody else. And now they've walked a
mile in your shoes, which means those shoes have one
point two miles walked in them.

Speaker 1 (10:57):
I mean, look, and this is what what I owe
always say. One point to walk. I count my steps.
I walk as hey, I got to one hundred steps,
I got to a thousand steps. I'm feeling good for
I'm gonna sit down. Done. I done my steps I'm
feeling really good. Ten thousand steps to that you mean
every two days? No, ten thousand steps in a day.
Oh yeah, okay, not happening. But look, show Bob. It's

(11:19):
and the thing that baffles me. And this is what happens,
and this is why why you can compare, and you
compare Whatody Johnson and Jerry Jones said. Hey, for a
long time, Jerry Jones was successful, right, like, Hey, you know,
Jimmy Johnson, they won super Bowls. They won with Barry Switzer.
They still were a yearly threat to get to the
super Bowl. But then as time went on and he
got more and more comfortable in his role and more

(11:41):
and more comfortable with making decisions and cutting people out
of the loop and and and shortening and having short
cuts towards doing things. You know, it's one of those
leeching processes where little by little suddenly oh man, the
last ten fifteen years, everything Jerry Jones has done has
been terrible. Right, where whereas the beginning it was, Hey,
there's other people that were around and they were involved

(12:02):
as he was. And he you know, when you don't
know what you don't know. But as time goes on, hey,
I'm into more of the ownership part of this, and
I'm making these big decisions and now I'm in in
the last ten fifteen years for the Cowboys have been brutal, right,
And it's the same thing for the Jets, because Whatdy
Johnson took over. Up until you know, ten twelve years ago,
things were pretty good, right. The Jets were making the
playoffs basically every other year, and it was great. We

(12:25):
didn't go far. We went to two AFC title games
and twenty eleven and twenty twelve, which is awesome. But
you know, after that happened, and Rex Ryan got fired,
Like Woody Johnson is, his control over the team has
gotten so much to the point where he's making all
of these personnel decisions. And he cut Joe Douglas out
of the loop on things. And Joe Douglas would we
found out today, Loud, Let me read the reports today,
Joe Douglas. Hey, I got a trade on the table.

(12:47):
I could get Jerry Bleep and Judy for Allen Lazard
and to pick No, don't want to do it. Oh, okay, Well,
let's get us on Reddick. I think I can get
him in. No, we're not giving him money. Oh okay,
Like the stuff that he has done has just cut
the Jets at the knees. And it happens when when
owners get older and they get more full themselves in
their power, they just get more involved. They don't get

(13:07):
less involved because they realize, this is my dark side
of the moon. This is what I'm leaving. This is
what I'm leaving is my legacy, and I want to
get more involved in it, and people shouldn't be involved
in it. It's why I say you can get past
a lot of things, but you will not get past
a bad owner, bad GM, bad head coach, bad manager,
bad starting pitcher, bad closer, bad quarterback, bad running back.
You'll get by. You have, bad power forward, you'll get by.

(13:28):
Bad goalkeeper you'll get Eventually, they'll all get replaced. Bad owner,
and look where you're at, and you'd see why the
Jets have been an absolute dumpster fire and the worst
team in the NFL for the last decade plus is
because stuff like this has happened. I mean, the whole
benching Aaron Rodgers thing. I'm like, Okay, that's insane, but
at least I understand the part of the conversation where

(13:49):
where he wanted to at least throw that out there.
But the part where I want to call for a
practice and I want the Jets to practice during the
bye week, Like, what the hell are you doing? Man?
These are I go?

Speaker 4 (14:00):
What the the owner gets to set the practice when
they should practice? Really that's the owner's I want to
have a practice today because I'm firing the general manager.
I think there's a practice during the bobby Like that's
where I go, Oh, man, were it's just never getting
any better and it's just gonna be third or fourth
place in the AFC East the rest of my life.

Speaker 3 (14:18):
Man who writes all the checks and decided that he
wanted to use a little Vegas misdirection. But to the
to the point about Jerry Jones, because even like since
twenty fourteen, they've had six double digit win seasons, yet
it's been seen as nothing but an absolute.

Speaker 1 (14:35):
Tale what tire fire the entire time?

Speaker 3 (14:39):
Right, it's just but with the Jets, like we gotta
go back to the Mark Sanchez two years and otherwise
it's little spurts here and there, but never really consistently
through a season to where they're contending. So that's where
if Woody Johnson had taken up some of the oxygen. Now,
remember he was out of the country for a couple
of years, so he wasn't there.

Speaker 1 (14:59):
Chris. You know, I thought we'd win then, and I
thought we'd win him out of the country. His brother's
running the team. Now we're gonna be good. Nope. I'm
stunk then too.

Speaker 3 (15:07):
But I bet you he was up in the you
know wee hours of the morning, and when they came
to work, he had his directives.

Speaker 1 (15:14):
Here's the practice kitu. No, No, he's got stack. I watch.
I'm on season two of The Diplomat. I know that
carry Russell's got a lot of stuff going on. Man,
she's got no time to watch football. If the Jets rotch,
she's got no time for that. Man. It's it's enough
to get her on a plane to go back to Washington,
to get yelled at by the Secretary of State, then
sorry spoiler, and then go back to London. No, he's

(15:34):
got no time for that, man. There's no time. There's
all kinds of crazy stuff going on, always in meetings.

Speaker 3 (15:38):
But you know what might just have that extra you know,
burner phone that's going back to Jets.

Speaker 1 (15:44):
Jets head square you call me and you tell me
who the started quarterback is. It's like when they're when
they're tech, when they're texting and uh in Moneyball, when
when Jodah Hill Tells tells Billy Bean h payn you
again at first base? Okay, and he throws the f ye.

Speaker 3 (16:01):
Like Woody Johnson, I really did not like the footwork
of the left tackle on that second down play.

Speaker 1 (16:09):
Welcome to my world. Hey understand, walk a mile in
my shoes. This is what it's like. Many Good luck
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Speaker 2 (16:49):
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Speaker 1 (17:00):
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(17:20):
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Speaker 3 (17:36):
Mike, we do that all positivity, all sorts of chaos,
and hopefully in the end everybody leaves happy.

Speaker 1 (17:45):
Yeah. I mean, look, we're not always just about sports
and McRib No. We get to the big issues that happened.
And there was look nothing today crazier than ESPN insider
Adam Schefter, who did an interview and was asked, Hey,
what's the weirdest place you've ever broken news from? And

(18:08):
I'm sure the answer is expected to be I was
in the toilet, I was sleeping, I was I was
doing high knees at thirty thousand feet. Oh, you know
you're gonna get one of those answers. You're showering and
maybe you have Raleiota Jimmy and hey, like, I remember
Jay Glazer once breaking breaking news when he was doing
an interview on local TV here in LA. I think

(18:30):
you know what it was. It was when he Breakable, right,
he just opened Unbreakable right his big gym, and local
channel channel eleven Fox here in LA was doing an
interview with him, and so it's like, you know, Jay's
an Unbreakable and they have the reporter there with him,
and then they have people in the studio, and then
it was it was part where the people in the
studio were asking Jay Glazer a question and I asked

(18:50):
Jay about Unbreakable and he's nodding his head and he
looks down at his phone, and he looks back up,
and he looks back He looks back down his phone,
looks like he says, hey, sorry, guys, I missed that question.
But I had to. But I had to look at
this because and whatever it was, you know, the the
packers just signed so and so in free agency, uh
you know three years, you know, thirty five million dollars.
There you go, breaking news for you right here on
the show. And then like I had no idea what

(19:12):
he was talking about, Like I don't I don't know
one of the one of the Green Bay Packers. I
don't understand is that a A. He's like, okay, great, six, okay,
so now ask me the question again. Then they asked
me a question about Unbreakably but like I remember, he
broke that news on the show. But then Adam Schefter
gave his answer today and it was you know, very
uh uh. It didn't seem like he wanted to say it,

(19:33):
but then at the end absolutely said it. He said
that he had met a girl and he was with
her for the first time in Denver long time ago,
where Dale Carter had gotten suspended by the NFL for
uh substance abuse Abie. He was an eight game suspension
at the time. So hey, Dale Carter getting dragged into
the story, and uh, he said he was right after

(19:55):
he was with this woman that he met for the
first time and laying there he broke the news and
then said he got the job done in every way possible.
Adam Schefter breaking news in the bedroom.

Speaker 3 (20:08):
I'm gonna guess he's told that story, uh, over a
round of beers, many many times. The entire time, You're
just thinking of Christian Bale staring at the mirror sold
in American and that's how he's delivering the news.

Speaker 1 (20:26):
I mean, I'm just wondering, like was it like cause
you know, because like Jay always tells us, you got
to live with your phone next to you, and I
tell everybody you know, my phone is it's it's my lifeline,
it's everything else. Like was it right after? Like was
it dooring? Like did they have to stop? And hang on?
Hang on, hang on? I'm sorry, yeah, Dale Carter got suspend?
Who the hell is Dale Carter? I'm sorry, Dale Carter

(20:48):
got I'm sorry. I just got to give me a minute,
Just give me a right here, hang on a second,
and uh, okay, Okay, let's go back to it. Let's
go back to it. Or did it happen right? Dale
could be either a man or a woman's name too
thin Jack the phone? Who is Dale Carter? Dale Carter?
And what does it mean? They're suspended? Oh? Dale Carter
got suspended? Okay, yeah, you're lying to me. I knew

(21:08):
it right here now.

Speaker 3 (21:09):
Of course, our guy Glazer had to come back over
the top.

Speaker 1 (21:12):
Yeah, by saying who hasn't I say, who hasn't done that?
We'll have to ask Jay about that this week. We
talked to him tomorrow night. Hey, Jay, you give us
a story now when you broke news that way? You
think he'll tell us? Or no, you think he'll tell us.
You think Rosie'll be standing over his shoe. Maybe he goes,
hey guy, let me go to the other part of
the house. Or I do this part of the interview
and tell you about the story here. Hang on a second,

(21:34):
Hang on. You know I did have a life before you,
Just so you know, I just in my life before
you was able to get out in about I was.
I was who I was, and that's that's kind of
all I can tell you. Uh, I really, I mean,
I I don't is someone like Schefter or Jay or whoever, Like,
do you get really distracted like when it's going on

(21:54):
and the phone it's like like you start looking over,
like was the phone on silent and it was vibrating
or was the phone like was it like the ring
came out and it was you know, like mop like
like on house, like it was some kind of personalized ring.

Speaker 3 (22:07):
You just gave us five jokes and double entendres there
hadn't even thinking about it.

Speaker 1 (22:12):
It was good. I been thinking about the story today,
Like there's so many different things. There's so many different
parts with that. I want to understand about that. Like
I like I cause I would say, like, hey, this
Dale Carter thing might become a staring at my phone
looking back at her, staring at my phone, looking back,
staring at my phone looking back. It's another walk a
mile in my shoes moment like you brought up earlier.

Speaker 3 (22:30):
Okay, breaking news finds me at any time of the day,
and I've got to be ready. This is why they
pay me the big bucks to break news that other
people are going to aggregate and spit out as their
own fourteen seconds later.

Speaker 1 (22:43):
Sorry, I really gotta get to this because Ian Rappaport's
then again say that he had it and I had
this first, I'm not I in Rapaport. Hey, you're right,
you're not even rap I am not say it to me.
I'm not in Rappingport. Yeah it's okay, okay, as you're
not even Rappaport. I understand. I understand, like like.

Speaker 3 (23:01):
That may be the strangest thing to ever in a decade.

Speaker 1 (23:06):
I'm not in Rappaport. You understand, I'm not Ian Rappaport. Yes, yes,
You're not even Rappaport. Yes, I know. Okay, all right,
I understand. Need a minute, you have to break this down. Okay,
we're fine, We're fine. Because that's the other part that
I started thinking is, you know, the other part of
this is how did she feel about it? Like was
it like was she like a dude, can you not
look at your phone? Can you not look at your
phone as a or was it like you know, kind

(23:27):
of a hey, you're gonna break news. While oh that's
I've never had never done that before. Okay, it's a
big news. Oh it's only Dale Carter getting suspended. I
thought it would be like, oh, but I mean she
still has a story forever. Yeah, I thought it would
be you know, Tom Brady, you know, Patriots changing quarterback
from bled So to Brady. You know, because this is
because this is in two thousand, so I'm thinking back
to things that could happen in two thousand. It would

(23:48):
be a oh hey, it's a bit of a quote
sexier story than you know. It's Dale Carter gan it suspended.

Speaker 3 (23:53):
Well, this is also long before he was a too
common kid on an annual basis from breaking news.

Speaker 1 (23:58):
This is true. I mean this one like, yeah, that
guy's a big deal. Now you know what he once did. Jerk. Hey,
come on, tell that story about that time. No, I
don't want to tell that story. Come on, just tell him.
It's a great story.

Speaker 3 (24:14):
Tell everybody how you know Adam Fine, tell him how
you know?

Speaker 1 (24:18):
A darn Schefter? And I want to tell you how
the I was the first I was a second person.
I know Dale Carter got suspended for eight games for peds.
You want to know, you want to know it's the
second person to know that, well, actually third person, because
someone texted Adam Schefter and then probably he probably told
her and then I got Carter. Look at Dale Dale

(24:41):
Carter had to be sitting around today going why is
my phone blowing up? I don't understand. Why are people called?
What is something happened? And he's he's on all the
blogs like okay, let me let me check, let me
check Yard Barker, let me check dead Spin, let me check,
let me check all these different sites. Did something happened?
Is there a story whenever? Oh oh oh oh oh yeah.

Speaker 3 (25:03):
Anybody reach out to Dale Carter Smith? Did you reach
out to him?

Speaker 1 (25:08):
Reach out to the uh you know, I want I
wonder is Dale Carter gonna end up on a on
a Fox? Like is Dale Carter gonna be on Dan
Patrick tomorrow? Could be on Dan Patrick? You know? Is
he is? He gonna be on Dale Carter tomorrow? It's
done Dan Patrick tomorrow. I could see that. I could
see that happened went back up. But I mean, I
don't know what you say, Hey, yeah, how's your life going? Like?

(25:28):
How are things? You know? I mean, okay, you know
what what's going on? What'd you think of when Schefter
had to like he had to bring up like why
did he bring up Dale Carter? Like I don't know
why you had to bring that up? Like I broke
a piece of news and this happened after, you know,
a woman and I had gotten together and had Why
they have to bring Dale Carter into it? It was Dale
Carter and not just Dale. It was Dale Carter, Dale

(25:49):
Carter getting suspended for no, no, no, I'm gonna I'm
gonna throw throw you under the bus with that right there.

Speaker 3 (25:59):
But when it really swing, you started this topic and
it sounded like something straight out of The Newlywed Game?

Speaker 1 (26:05):
Where is the strangest place that you've made? Whoopie? W?
When's the last time your mother in law walked in
on you making whoopee? Now? I gotta explain the Generation
X what the Newlywed Game was? Okay, it was a
TV bring it back at some point? Did they bring
back the Newlywed Game? I gotta think they had to.

Speaker 3 (26:23):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (26:24):
I mean, Bob Eubanks had that great hand, that great papadoor.
That was awesome. Yeah, oh he was great.

Speaker 3 (26:28):
No, he still does the show because he was part
of the original British Invasion stuff with launching the Beatles
in the US. Bob Eubanks was yeah, no, yeah, he
was a DJ, so he does he does stuff way
back from back in the day.

Speaker 1 (26:42):
He couldn't he couldn't get a better gig than hosting
the Newlywed game, like that was. That was where the
Beatles came on, went on the global superstartup, and he
hosted the Newlywed Game. Damned he had a good run.
I mean, this story, this story is just insane. I mean,
the thing is, I could actually picture it happening like
pig reaching for the funky I gotta stop, wait for okay, fine,

(27:03):
Like I could see it like as part of a
you know what I would picture you know it Wou'd
be great if this is it was a scene in
a movie. You know'd be great playing Adam Schefter. Jason Siegel.
Jason Siegel would be great if they that was in
a movie and he was playing in NFL ins if
they made a movie about the NFL insider, Jason Siegel
would be great in that scene. And Schefter's appeared in movies,
right yeah, yeah, but he's he's appeared as himself. I mean, like,

(27:25):
if you know Jason Siegel, that was he was the
main character. Like kind of like, you know, we need
another Jerry Maguire movie where it's about sports but not
really you know what, He's an insider breaking news, and
that happens, and Jason Jason Siegel would pull that scene off.

Speaker 3 (27:37):
I'm gonna write that AI movie by time we get
back on air tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (27:43):
Exit Out About of Fresco, Exit swollen down the Jason
Smith Show with my best friend Mike harmon Time Now
to find out what's trending in the wide world of sports.
And I got some tough news because Manci Bolangjo's right
now told me she bet Phoenix. She's getting fifteen and
it's real difficult right now, Monsie, tell everybody what's going on.

Speaker 2 (28:02):
You know, I did bet.

Speaker 5 (28:03):
I did bet Phoenix because that's my girl Breeze team,
you know, I'm saying, so I got to support That's
what girls do.

Speaker 1 (28:09):
So I'm mosy look at that.

Speaker 5 (28:10):
Yes, I know in other places women don't support women,
but Brion I support each other.

Speaker 1 (28:15):
So I ask you this. If you lose tonight, lose
a lot, when's the next time you will support her
by betting the sun?

Speaker 2 (28:19):
Oh, when she.

Speaker 5 (28:20):
Buys me a drink, I'll forgive her she buys go yeah, yeah,
yah yeah.

Speaker 1 (28:24):
You can lose about one thousand dollars on a bet
and she buys you a drink for eight dollars in
your evening.

Speaker 5 (28:28):
And you know that's friends, hashtag friends.

Speaker 1 (28:30):
You know Los Angeles, there's no eight dollars drink. That's water. Yeah,
then water. I bought to buy you a heavy water
water water.

Speaker 5 (28:40):
Not having water, I'm gonna have a nineteen forty two
on the rocks.

Speaker 1 (28:44):
You know what I'm saying, Like, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 5 (28:46):
Also, Jason, I was listening to you guys yesterday.

Speaker 1 (28:48):
Was it your birthday recently?

Speaker 5 (28:49):
Did I hear that?

Speaker 2 (28:50):
Right?

Speaker 1 (28:50):
It was? It was my birthday on Monday.

Speaker 2 (28:52):
Happy birthday?

Speaker 1 (28:53):
Thank you? Yeah, I was.

Speaker 5 (28:55):
I tuned into you guys while I was driving home
from my volleyball game, and I was like, oh, I
gotta tell Jason happy birthday. You were at Disney, right, No, no,
but oh okay. Then I thought you guys were talking
about Disney, but it must have been a different conversation.
But happy belated birthday, Jason.

Speaker 1 (29:09):
Thank you. Ed Brianna, your friend who works here, gave
me a diet coke for my birthday, wrapped it up
for me and everything. Got a diet coke. A Arman
gave me a two liter bottle of diet coke for
my birthday.

Speaker 5 (29:18):
Nobody gave you McDonald's double double or whatever you like.

Speaker 1 (29:21):
Quarter pounder. Well, you know we have to talk about that.

Speaker 5 (29:23):
Okay, back on, Okay, I'll come all right, all right, Well,
Jason and your knicks are winning right now against Breeze Sons.
It's forty two twenty six less than one minute ago.
In the first quarter of this one. The Hawks are
losing to the Warriors forty one to twenty two. After
the first quarter, the Cavaliers already crushed the Pelicans one
twenty eight to one hundred. If you didn't know who

(29:45):
was playing for the Pelicans, none of us did because
they have eight players on the injury report, including Cetia McCollum,
de Jontay Murray, Brandon and Grim and Zion Williamson. So yeah,
Ty Jerome led the way with twenty nine points for
the Calves.

Speaker 2 (29:57):
There the Bucks defeated the Bulls one twenty two to
one oh six.

Speaker 5 (30:00):
Janna Sante Toombo forty one points, nine rebounds and eight
assists in the win. The Rockets beat the Pacers one
thirty to one thirteen, and the Grizzlies outscored the seventy
six ers one, seventeen to one eleven. Paul George left
in the fourth quarter. You guys were talking about it
with the hyper extended knee, the same knee he hyper
extended a month ago. So there we go. Two points
and four rebounds for Paul George in the loss. The
Thunder top the Trailblazers one oh nine ten ninety nine.

(30:22):
Yukon women's basketball coach Gino Ariema is officially the winningest
coach in NC DOUBLEA history with one thy two hundred
and seventeen wins. After the Huskies defeated Fairley Dickinson eighty
five to forty one. He surpasses Stanford legend Tara van Derveer.
So that's eleven NC DOUBLEA titles, twenty three Final four appearances,
and twenty eight conference regular season titles. Congratulations to him.

(30:44):
Let's check in in the NHL right now. The Stars
are beating the Sharks five to two, thirty seconds to go,
and that one, Predators and Kraken are scoreless halfway through
the first period. The Maple Leafs defeated the Golden Knights
three zero, and the Hurricanes beat the Flyers four to one.

Speaker 1 (30:59):
And in Bait, we've got.

Speaker 5 (31:01):
Some Cy Young Award winners.

Speaker 1 (31:03):
That is right.

Speaker 5 (31:03):
Detroit Tigers Trek Scuba was named the unanimous al Cy
Young Award winner, and Braves pitcher Chris Saille was named
the National League Cy Young Award winner.

Speaker 1 (31:13):
Back to you guys, thanks a bunch, mon jez hey
really quick. He congratulates to Gino Orima again as you
just heard Monty talk about it. Twenty three final fours,
fifteen in the last sixteen years, win streaks of ninety eight,
one hundred and eleven games, like what he has done.
Like just to think about what he's done for a second.
You think about winning streaks of ninety eight hundred eleven
games like the stuff that Gino Oriema has done throughout

(31:35):
his career at Yukon, and he kind of doesn't get
the credit that he should deserve because the popularity of
women's basketball. He's kind of the conduit, right, Like he's
the guy that was the main He and Pat Summit
were the main coaches when women's college basketball, which is
the biggest women's sport, went from hey, you know what
sport is going to break through and suddenly a okay,

(31:56):
women's college basketball gets kind of a seat at the table,
and it became pretty popular in the two thousands and
the twenty tens, and obviously the Yukon Tennessee rivalry made
it a big deal. But now the last few years
where it's absolutely exploded to the point where it's outrating
college basketball on television. Obviously a lot thanks to Caitlin Clark,

(32:18):
but we have a lot of great players that are
coming to the WNBA now that we care about Logan
and Geno Oriema's got Paige Becker's and you know Juju
Watkins here in usc like the superstars just keep coming.
Now it's become bigger than it ever was. And he
put up numbers like in these kind of stats right
here that you would expect to hear. If I told
you this is what a college coach accomplished, twenty three

(32:40):
Final four berths, fifteen and sixteen years, different win streaks
of ninety eight hundred eleven games, you would say, well,
that's got to be in the fifties, right, that's got
to be John Wooden. Right, this's got to be when
they were like eight teams and you just had a
factory and you were able to get everybody. No, this
is stuff that's in the turn of the century. This
is stuff that's like since two thousand that he's been
able to accomplish as it and it kind of goes

(33:02):
under the radar because the big explosion. He doesn't get
the credit as much because Yukon hasn't won in the
last few years. Like he needs that. He needs that
title this year. Man, you talk about somebody that needs
a title in the new modern, modern era of women's
college basketball, it's Gene. It's Gina Orima. He's got Yukon's
gotta win this year. They have the player to do
it in Becker's that you know, that's still a superstar school.

(33:24):
But he needs that win to say, hey, I'm able
to bridge the era and continue to play well in
the era we're in right now.

Speaker 3 (33:31):
Yeah, you just go down the list of players though
More and stewartr. Former guest of the show, Sue Byrd Tarasi,
I mean, Rebecca Lobo and all these high profile folks
that are still around the game. But here's the thing
for Gena Arima, he's gonna be most remembered because everybody
is the they came to the table this last year, Right,
that's the big criticism. You're gonna pay attention all these

(33:53):
years you just got here. They're only gonna remember him
from when he was on with Dan Patrick and predicted
that Caitlin Clark would.

Speaker 1 (33:59):
Be mid Yeah.

Speaker 3 (34:02):
Yeah, yeah, that's what that's his calling card right now.
Even remember he was really Gregg coach over here. It's like, no,
he said that about Caitlin Clark. How dare you well again.

Speaker 1 (34:14):
That's the other thing too, is that he has always
spent a lot of time like I feel like he did,
like he knew this is when when women's college basketball
is on the ascension, they were going to be a
story for the final four, right that's when women's college
basketball was was at the biggest part of the year.
And he would always take that time to launch some
sort of of die a tribe on something that didn't

(34:36):
make him happy. And sometimes it was really important. Sometimes
it was dude, just enjoy you're in the final four
winning a national championship. But he would always take that
time and it was always all, here's Geno Orima. So
I think a lot of people have the connotation of
Geno Orima, ah guy that's not happy about something when
it comes to the final four, And that's sort of
the impression we have of him when you have to
understand what he's done. Winning has been something that no

(34:58):
one's won like this in any sport ever, and this
is how he's won and he's still doing it now
at seventy years old.

Speaker 3 (35:05):
Yeah, and he's one of the last of you know,
one of the things we've lamented a little bit the
changing of the collegiate landscape is how many of these
men and women have just said I'm done with this. Right,
long time, long tenured coaches have just decided, all right,
I'm not playing by these new rules. You know, that's
someone else's game. I'm gonna keep quoting Wicked, I guess unintentionally,

(35:30):
and then I was like, I'm really running, you know,
define gravity lines. But just the idea that he's still
trying to battle, still trying to figure out this next phase.
And he's got he's got a heavyweight team, as you
talk about with Paige Becker's a lot of eyeballs, and
the bully pulpit is still his to use. Now, it's
just do you make the most of it. With more

(35:51):
eyes on the women's college game than ever.

Speaker 1 (35:54):
Exit out about a Fresca X at swollen down. The
Jason Smith's are with Mike Carmon Lai from the Tirect Studios.
I'll have more basketball throughout the show, but coming up next,
there's a big couple of awards that we're giving out
today and one may take a player from Hey, he's
really good to potentially be in a Hall of Famer. Yeah,

(36:16):
that's next right here, Jason Mike Fox.

Speaker 2 (36:20):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific.

Speaker 1 (36:27):
Fox Sports Radio The Jason Smith Show with my best
friend Mike Harmon Livethetirack dot Com Studios. Got more football
on the way coming up in a few minutes. But
big news in Major League Baseball today. We're gonna get
the MVPs coming up twenty four hours. Find out just
how much Shoho Tani and Aaron Judge won by, what's.

Speaker 3 (36:49):
The margin of victory? And did anybody else get a
second place?

Speaker 1 (36:53):
Again? Beyond your guy and the only Francisco Lindora is
going to be the first unanimous second player in MLB
history for MVP Unani its second place. But today we
got the Cy Young Awards, right Tarik schoobl in the
American League and Chris Sale and National League. Neither is

(37:13):
surprising because they each won the pitching Triple Crown wins,
R and strikeouts. Each led the league a little bit
tougher in the National League because you had the superstar
power of Paul Skeins who was a finalist, and Zach Wheeler,
who had a very comparable season to Chris Sale. However,
Sale wins the Triple Crown again wins, RAY and strikeouts.

(37:34):
It's kind of tough to argue that, well, the other
guy was bet no wins ERA strikeouts. Well, that's kind
of tough. But the big question is this now is
because what did this mean for Chris Sale? Now the
guys become a Hall of Famer. And that's what this
Cy Young has done for Chris Sale. This is a

(37:57):
guy who from twenty twelve through two eighteen, for that
decade with the White Sox, in a couple of years
with Boston, he's one of the top three pitchers in
baseball at worst for the entire run. And then that's
an incredible amount of time to be that dominant as
a pitcher. Right seven All Star All seven years now
eight time All Star here with the Braves. But when

(38:20):
you can put that finishing touch on your career and say, okay,
here's here's the punctuity, here, here's the exclamation. Whit again,
he's still got some time. Looking you're thirty five and
you're finally healthy after a couple of years of being injured.
Maybe you have a couple more really good years left.
I don't think Chris sale is suddenly going to fall
off the planet. You know, he's still going to be
really good. But you're saying eight years and now a

(38:41):
Cy Young Award to go along with being an eight
time All Star. And when you look back at the
at the last decade plus in Major League Baseball, who's
been a more consistent dominant pitcher, the list is really
really short because all the other guys that are up
there with him, Yeah, okay, you assures it was really good,
but kind of a he's kind of falling off. And Verlander,

(39:01):
who's gonna be a Hall of Famer as well, But
he stacks up with everybody. You know, his career pitching
war stacks up with just about everybody in in in
Major League Baseball history. So Chris sale By by winning
this I'm look and here I'm telling you. I mean,
he's he was your guy for a long time. Yeah,
he's going to the Hall of Fame. He's he's not
gonna have an unbelievable number of wins. He's got one

(39:24):
hundred and thirty eight right now, what is he gonna
finish at? At most maybe one hundred and seventy maybe,
you know, because guys don't win as many games, But
like hes one thirty eight and eighty three right now,
Like that's a pretty good bleeping record. That's like Pedro
Martinez esque, you know, being being that being fifty games
over five hundred for your career in Major League baseball.
I mean, I don't even think it's gonna be a question.

(39:45):
I think Chris Sale's gonna go. And if it's not
the first year ballot for him, it'll be the second
year for him.

Speaker 3 (39:51):
Boy, I'm hoping to see that. Add Mark Burley to
the list, and Harmon celebrates all over the place because
his lefties get into the Hall. Yeah, I mean, you
look at Pedro for his career to nineteen and one
hundred when it was all said and done.

Speaker 1 (40:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (40:04):
The thing with Sale is the fact that you've got
that long block between the last time he was this dominant, right,
this is the most innings he's pitched since twenty seventeen.
And I'm all with you in all of those things.
The All Star appearances, seven times he's finished inside the
top ten in era. He's also finished I think it's
six or seven times with the most hit batman batsman

(40:27):
in a year, which is good too.

Speaker 1 (40:29):
Sure, he's got to get people off the plate. Hey,
everybody off the plate. I'm going to plunk you if
you get checks.

Speaker 3 (40:36):
But all of that to say, yeah, it's he's an
interesting case, right, because you did have that six year
block where he was fifth or sixth in Cy Young
balloting for a six year stretch, right, six or better
every year, and now you get one on the comeback
trail a couple more years like this, staying in on

(40:58):
this side of the equation. In terms of the Atlanta
Braves and their winning machine. Yeah, perhaps perhaps we get there.
I don't know that this solidifies it, but I'd vote
for him, damn it, I would. I'll museum celebrate greatness.

Speaker 1 (41:12):
It doesn't make him any more of a cab, but
winning sometimes those things absolutely do it for you. When
you have this triple crown. Sigh young, Yeah, Okay, that's
the last thing you need. You need that little bit
to cut through the clutter that sends you there. Well,
do you?

Speaker 3 (41:26):
Double digit win season is different than anybody else is
going anymore.

Speaker 1 (41:30):
If you think this Hall of Fame conversation was good,
how about an NFL one we're gonna have next.

Speaker 2 (41:35):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.

Speaker 1 (41:46):
Fox Sports Radio. The Jason Smith Show with My best
friend Mike Harmon Live from the Tirack dot Com Studios. Halftime,
The knickt lead the Sun seventy six to fifty eight,
seventy of benches, whoop nix yo uh? Jalen Brunson's got

(42:07):
twenty three? This Knicks offense, Wow, this Knicks defense. Joining
us down the hotline for all the big news in
the NBA. Fox Sports won NBA Insider Extraordinary. You can
follow him on Twitter at Rick Buker. It is the
aforementioned Rick Buker. What's happening? Bud yo yo.

Speaker 6 (42:23):
Yo yo yo yo yo?

Speaker 1 (42:25):
Yeah, all right, So, because you we've talked about this
a few times here and here we are, you know,
halftime of this game, you said you were all in
on the Knicks, just like I was still all in
on the Knicks? Or boy, is there something?

Speaker 6 (42:40):
H what do you mean by by all in? I
think I pulled back a little bit last time we spoke.

Speaker 1 (42:46):
By the way, Well, you said all in, they're gonna
it's gonna be faux faux fo like Moses Malone all
the way to the NBA finals.

Speaker 3 (42:52):
That was you let you did not bet on the winner,
Jerry Jones, and he laid that out all in.

Speaker 6 (42:57):
Sometimes I think that when I come on the show,
there must be like a voice modulator like that they have,
and it translates what I say. Maybe no, maybe it's
just in Jason's ear. There's certain things I say and
then they go through the ear canal and what actually
hits his brain is not exactly what I've said. It's

(43:18):
there's sort of like there's this interpretation machine in there.
I can take what he said there and I can
turn it into this, and then you spit it back
at me, and I'm like, I don't even recognize that.

Speaker 1 (43:29):
But well, yeah, but in the past, Rick, I would
have to do that. But now we have AI, so
I can just make it sound like you said, whatever
the hell I wanted to make you say.

Speaker 6 (43:37):
That's exactly That's exactly what is going on here, and
the first time that anybody has connected artificial intelligence with
Jason sith. But in any case, in any case, no,
I look, I actually I'm more into the Nicks as
a result of the teams that are falling out pH

(44:01):
Philadelphia obviously has fallen on its face and I don't
expect them to get up Milwaukee's in spite of the
wind tonight and the winning streak, I still think that
they've got major issues. So it really comes down to,
you know's a handful of teams that that that I
have that I think have a chance. Obviously Boston in

(44:22):
New York, I would say, I would throw Orlando uh
in that in that mix, and I'm forgetting somebody. There's
a there's a fourth team that we have to we
have to keep in keep in mind here and Cleveland,
I think that you you have to put them in
that mix. So, you know, being one of the top

(44:44):
four teams without question, I mean, I don't see anybody
else even breaking into that top four. Uh certainly puts
the Micks in in great position. If you talk about Orlando,
they don't have a whole lot of experience. Cleveland maybe
a little bit more. Uh So I would say that
the Knicks are are in great position. The one thing
that is baffling is that Mikale Bridges when when he

(45:09):
was acquired, you would have assumed that he was going
to that he was going to improve their defense and
their defense was good, and that it was going to
be great, and it's it's actually gone the other direction.
And I don't think we can put all that at
the feet of Karl Anthony Towns, because if you look
at the ratings and what the team has done when

(45:30):
Michale is on the floor, he has one of the
worst defensive ratings on the team and one of the
worst offensive ratings on the team. So maybe this is
just a matter of the expectations are really high and
this is the team that was already kind of set
and they're trying to adjust to Karl Anthony town and

(45:51):
then Michale has to find his way in between those
two things, an established way plus a new star that
they're trying to incord rate because I've always been a
big Michale fan. I've always thought that he's he's one
of the better two way wings in the league. But
for all that they gave up and what the expectations are,

(46:13):
I would say that he's probably the biggest disappointment. You
tell me he's going to get back to what we
are used to seeing, then, Nick yo yo.

Speaker 1 (46:22):
Yo yo yo.

Speaker 3 (46:23):
Yeah, this will be fun as soon as they actually
have to use those guys beyond number six on the
depth chop.

Speaker 1 (46:28):
What do you happens?

Speaker 6 (46:29):
What do you mean you know that's not happening? What
do you talk about?

Speaker 3 (46:33):
Oh, I'm saying because it has to happen, not because
he wants it to.

Speaker 6 (46:37):
No, they should just they should just gray out, like
on the bench. You know how you have color everywhere
and then you just like things that don't work, they
just you just grat them out. That's an event. It's
not it's not operable. They're not No, he's not doing that.

Speaker 1 (46:54):
Unavailable.

Speaker 3 (46:55):
All right, let's go back you mentioned and we got
into the sixers there briefly, Maxie calling out embiid. That
gets out tonight. Paul George leaves again with injury Joel
Embiid in your mind's eye, what's the next jersey he's
wearing and how soon will he be wearing it?

Speaker 6 (47:10):
Oh? Wow, Look I don't know that. I mean, what
can you do with him? Honestly, I who's gonna who
wants to inherit that at this point? It's because it's
so much on him, And I do think that the
Sixers are stuck because like it or not, he's your

(47:30):
best player. And tyres maact he is telling it saying
that our best player is not our hardest worker and
not our most detail oriented player, and that is that
you have no chance of winning or going anywhere significant
unless your best player is your hardest worker. There's a
lot of things, there's a lot of adjustments to the formulas,

(47:56):
the winning formulas in the NBA, but that name to
constant where if your best player is not your hardest worker,
you are not going to you're not going to compete
for a championship because and it's not the only thing
that has to be there. But if you go down
the line, the teams that are are always there and

(48:19):
the teams that have won, you can look at their
best player and they're the hardest worker. And conversely, you
can I don't know, I'm the hate to pick on
this guy, but he just he immediately comes to mind
like Tracy McGrady, most people would say most talented player
in the league, or you could take your l MB,
you know, I mean, he's MVP. There's times where you

(48:41):
look at his his what he's able to do. He
is going to make a case he's the all around
best player in the league. But when that guy is
not your hardest worker, then there's a price to be
paid for the entire team because he's not setting the
standard and he gives everybody an out, so when things
get hard, he's not going to have the wherewithal to

(49:04):
stand up to it, and the rest of the team
is inclined to take the easy way out too, So
he's I don't see him going anywhere, honestly, because I
don't see anybody wanting to sign up for that.

Speaker 1 (49:19):
And all that comes with is Rick Buker our guest
Fox Sports One NBA insider Jason Smith Mike Harmon, live
from the tirec dot Com studios. All right, from Joel Embiid,
let's head west, where you know, we talked about this
on the show the last couple of nights, remember the
painter Bob Ross would have the happy accidents where, oh hey,
look we really stumbled into something here on this painting.

(49:39):
I kind of feel like that's what the Lakers have done, right.
JJ Reddick wants to send the message to D'Angelo Russell
about a week and a half ago, Hey, what you're
doing is not right. I'm gonna bench you, and now
you're coming off the bench. And I don't think that
that was made to be a permanent thing. It was
I got to teach you a lesson. But what the
Lakers have realized is, wait a minute. With Lebron playing
point guard, he's getting everybody involved. He is deferring to

(50:01):
a d as the number one option, and now Russell
can come off the bench and do his thing and
score points and not kill them. And some of the
Lakers have stumbled onto something where I think this was
just kind of a happy accident for them.

Speaker 6 (50:14):
Yeah, no, there's no there's there's no doubt that that
this mix is is better and that everything fits. Having
Dangela come off off the bench and it gives him
a little more freedom, allows him to play to his strength,
which is really like, I'm going to play pick and
roll and I'm going to look for my shot and
then if I get stuck, then I'm going to give

(50:35):
it up. But I'm not really trying to get everybody
involved or be conscious of who's hot. And he's not
an orchestrator. He's a pretty good pick and roll guard.
And that's the strength and that works for you off
the bend. The problem that the issue is you're playing
Lebron thirty five minutes, and can you do that the

(50:59):
entire season? Like right now, he's playing thirty five, AD's
playing thirty five, Austin Reeves is playing almost thirty five,
and they've played every game and they've taken advantage of
they've had a fairly easy schedule, and they've beaten the
teams that they're supposed to beat. And so I don't

(51:20):
want to just the one thing I don't want to
discount is what JJ Reddick has done, whether it's moving
a d LO to the bench or just you know,
bringing in detail and being a communicator and setting standards
and expectations. And I think he's been terrific on all that.

(51:41):
I sometimes wonder like if they and you saw it
when they had the tough road trip and I think
they lost four out of five on that road trip,
and you know, he's slamming chairs and he's you know,
he's expressing his frustration like they're going to hit rough patches.

(52:03):
And one of the things that coaches have to become
good at is biting their tongue and not letting their
frustration boil over because that gets old in a hurry.
Players players will turn you off at some point if
you're you're reacting to everything, And that's just something you

(52:27):
know naturally that that a young coach who's wasn't that
long long ago, that wasn't what was still a player,
is understandable that he would have that. But look, you know,
they're they're they're right there in the mix. They're about
where I thought that actually they're they're maybe a little
bit better than I thought they would be. The big

(52:50):
question is just is simply going to be they don't
have a whole lot of depth. So you have to
have a d Lebron and Reeve's healthy and playing every
night in order for this team to win. And can
they do that for eighty two games and then go
into the postseason that that is going to be the

(53:11):
challenge and for anybody who would say, man, I don't
know if that's a good bet because of the history
of those guys understandable, you know. So I'm enjoying it
while I can and not putting too much expectations on
where they're going to be in April based on what
I'm seeing in November.

Speaker 3 (53:32):
Hey, Riic, besides lighting up an Arumo's defense for you know,
the continued failure, what do you got going on the
On the Ball podcast this week?

Speaker 6 (53:41):
Uh? Well, a couple of things. One I want to
talk about Jason Tatum in terms of being like, you
know how we were having the debate last year about
who was better and who was the MVP between Jalen
Brown and Jason Tatum. Jason Tatum has come back and
is demonstrating that he is the guy. He's the guy

(54:04):
with that team. And I've seen this with guys before,
where I used to think that you were just kind
of born with the confidence of I'm a champion, I'm
going to go win championships. And if you didn't have
it that you couldn't you couldn't develop it. You either
had that belief in yourself that unshakable belief or you didn't.

(54:24):
And I've come to see Lebron didn't have that state
early on, and he kind of developed it. Even Steph
Curry developed it, and now we're seeing Jason Tatum do
the same thing. So combination of that and then looking
at the Calves, I broke down the Calves fifteen game

(54:45):
winning streak to try to diagnose, like, exactly how good
should we consider them based on the fact that they
did something historic and if you look at who they
played and when they played them, it was right for them,
maybe not to go fifteen to O, but it was
right for them to have a great start. I do
think that they've taken another step from last year, but

(55:08):
I don't know that fifteen and O establishes them as
the team to beat in the Eastern Conference. As the
Boston Celtics demonstrated just the other night, they are still
the team to beat. But I do think Cleveland is
in the mix, certainly to have home court advantage going
into the postseason. They're They're not a mirage. They're just
not the taz Mahal.

Speaker 1 (55:30):
So that's what's on the On the Ball podcast. Get
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that from you is this?

Speaker 6 (55:42):
Uh yeah, you know what.

Speaker 1 (55:44):
I don't.

Speaker 6 (55:44):
I don't like to advertise my business like that. So
good letting everybody knows who got laid all.

Speaker 1 (55:55):
Right, seeer Rix, We'll talk to you next week. Ye
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